October 21, 2024 • 36 mins
Recapping Episode 9 with Austin!
-Rachel crushing the daily
-Kaycee's arrogance
-Misplaced anger at Josh
-Era 3 v. Era 4 in the arena
-And much more!
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-Rachel crushing the daily
-Kaycee's arrogance
-Misplaced anger at Josh
-Era 3 v. Era 4 in the arena
-And much more!
Twitter: @ChallengeFanPod
Instagram: @challenge_fanatics_podcast
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
What's going on? Everybody? And welcome back to another episode
of the Challenge Fan Addicts podcast. We are here to
continue breaking down Battle of the Era's episode nine, an
Era of one. My name is Josh Green. You can
find us on all social media platforms at Challenge Fan
Pod and this podcast is not a Party of one.
(00:27):
I'm here back with my co host, the Great Austoin
Piegel said, Austin, how you doing good?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Doing pretty well? How are you looking forward to recapping
this episode?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I'm marvelous. We're love to hear it. We're back, and
we're back. A lot of a lot of fun here.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Was had in this. This daily a lot to get into.
So let's let's dive right in. We we come back
and our former guest Ryan Keho is talking about how
he volunteered to be a target here. He wants to
protect Rachel if Era two pulls.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Out the win. He knows that Laurel will not throw
the challenge because she will go into elimination if they
purposely throw, and he knows more than likely that Rachel
will have his back if she were to win this.
(01:29):
And I thought this was a good strategy by Ryan.
And then we start to get the foreshadowing of the
Vacation Alliance, how they've had success thus far in the game,
they haven't went into elimination, and that Era three and
Era four continue to have each other's backs. So we're
(01:51):
pretty much, if you were to succinctly sum up everything
before the Daily, it's that if Era one wins, they're
going to save Era two in vice versa, and if
Era three wins, they're going to save Era four and
vice versa. I personally will say that I'm very glad
(02:12):
that this game is going to individual so we can
get rid of that Era one saving two and three
saving four mentality. Were you excited to see that this
thing is getting to an individual phase now?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Yeah, yeah, looking forward to that. I well, I don't
know at this point, right, we're still in the team phase.
But it's like, you know, you got like two teams first,
two teams, which I think just makes it better versus
everybody targeting you know.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
One team.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Yeah, so we will we'll see how it all shakes
out later on. But we were heading too this daily.
H there's a giant container above the water, you know.
I think everybody was a little confused as far as
how in what they really were going to be doing here,
(03:08):
but we're told that this daily is called bottoms Out. First,
before they even get into that giant, giant container, they're
going to be solving twenty seven math equations. Now equations
(03:30):
is putting it lightly because Austin knows my father, and
we were sitting here watching the episode together, and when
the square root of thirty six popped up on the screen,
he was like, you've got to be fucking kidding me.
This is a question that they have to answer.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
It, Like it's so bad because like you know, like okay,
like some you know, decent, some decent like Matt Okay,
like I get it, but like easy shit like this,
like I don't, I.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Don't get it. I really don't get it.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
It was so there was that right, there was then
there was it was like thirty three minus twenty two
minus ten, which I was like, this is crazy. These
are so simple it Like I thought, I was like, oh,
maybe they'll just throw like one really simple one in
(04:28):
there to like get them to overthink it or something.
I don't know. But literally every single one of these
questions was so so simple. And it's fitting because Devin
talks about in other seasons, how like it's basic math
that these people get so wrong. And I was surprised
(04:52):
that the number of so every question that you get
right is a foothold or an armhold on this giant container.
And I was surprised that how little footholds these eras
had because these questions were they were so simple. Like
there was another one that was like the square root
of sixty four? I know, are you kidding?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
It's eight some right?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Seriously, these people should know just from that song, even
if you don't know the math, like just remember the lyric.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah I don't.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
I you know, you're always like oh you know, like yeah,
it seems kind of tough, but like, dude, some of
this math is so easy.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I don't understand how.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
I don't understand how these people can go through life
and be like, yeah, I don't know what the square
root of thirty six is.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
It's just blows my mind.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Now.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
That should have been rapid fire.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Also, not a good performance from Kylon either.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
No, no, and everyone has been saying, like Kylon the calculator,
Kylon's and he's sped up and took took leadership on
Air four on this one and he was a target,
so like, it makes sense that Kyland this was the
perfect challenge for him to be the uh the leader
(06:13):
for their era on. But I was I was very
surprised at how poor he did here. I was like, oh,
this is right up Kyland's alley. They're going to have
like twenty five you know, footholds and armholds to grab onto.
They're going to be able to move around when a
few people drop. But that was not the case at all.
(06:42):
But the of course the biggest headline here of this
daily challenge, A lot of people had been wondering, you know,
are these daily challenges going to start to benefit a
team that has less people in particular team of one
because Rachel's by herself on Erro one and she completely
(07:04):
you know, Neamiah did really well for aer too, but Rachel.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Absolutely beat is crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah. I don't know how she did that.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, she's a beast. It's fun to watch. It's very
easy to root for. So like, good for her, it
was that was awesome to watch.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I have no clue how she did it. We I
spoke to Alan and Geary about this episode as well,
so check that out. Uh, he has a lot of
great content on the medium dot com about the challenge
and his own podcast over on Caffeine Confessionals, and he
brought up an interesting way to like improve this daily.
(07:42):
Remember the Survivor community challenge where they like hold on
to the poll and they're all doing it at the
same time. Maybe he was saying it could have been well, basically,
it would have been interesting like that Survivor challenge if
they all were whole thing on, if they put all
twenty people up in the container.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Oh my god, yeah yeah, no, yeah, have been so
much fun.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
It's like an endurance thing and like a because it
would have been me and Maiah versus Rachel at the end,
and then we would have seen Rachel hang on for
like another seven eight minutes. But we've been seeing these
confessionals throughout the season. Rachel does not want Era one
or herself to be slept on. She beats everybody here,
(08:31):
She beats the guys, she beats the girls, and Rachel
Robinson has the sole decision on who is going in
against Era three. Ever three gets last place here, so Tory,
Deal and Devin are immediately in very surprising here to
(08:53):
see that they're going into elimination based off a daily challenge.
I when I saw, you know, when this started and
how the format shook out, I was like, this team
has never getting last place, but here we are. Yep,
here we are. So we're either getting Laurel and Ryan
(09:16):
or Kayland in Casey against Tory and Devin either way,
a heavyweight female matchup. I mean easily on paper, the
best female matchup of the season, whether it's Laurel or
Casey going in against Tory, and then it's either going
to be Kyland or Ryan going in against Devon. Tough,
(09:43):
tough week to be Michelle Pitzgild. You know, one of
her strongest allies has been Kayland, and of course her
new man Devin is automatically going into elimination. So really
can't get much worse for Michelle.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Yeah, now, not not good, but I mean again, if
I also think about it, like at the end of
the day, she she loses either way, but she also
still wins either way, so it stucks, but it's not
like the end of the world, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, yeah, because you know, she a strong girl, is
going to go out of the game either way.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
So she wins there and then you know, you hope,
you hope that Devin can come out of the elimination
and then set the targets for the girls.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Well for her, for her shake right.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah, so it while it is a precarious situation for her,
it can end up working out really well to her advantage.
This night out might have been the funniest night out
of the entire season, and I'm I'm excited to talk
(10:55):
more about this. Alan and I spoke a good bit
about the vacation alliance and the inner workings of all
of this. But the idea that Casey Clark thinks that
her and Rachel have this unspoken bond because of Josh.
It was just absurd to me that she thought that
(11:18):
Rachel was just going to keep her safe because of
somebody else in the game.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Yeah, she was interesting. I I don't know. I've been
talking to Cory about this, and like, I like Casey
a lot as a person, But the more I see
her in confessionals during during these like things, like, the
more I kind of get annoyed, Yeah, with her, Like,
(11:44):
I don't know, she I think the more that she's
been playing, she kind of feels entitled to things and
and I just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I never really liked that in the Challenge, So I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
This is the first season where I'm like, oh, she's
getting kind of annoying. That's like my take. I don't
want to be like too. I really like Casey in general.
I think she's like a beast competitor, but like the
gameplay this year, I think specifically maybe towards Jenny.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I don't know why she doesn't like Jenny.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Uh, if you're getting targeted as much as Jenny is, like,
you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Complain about it, right, Like, I don't know, that's just
my take.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I guess no, you're gonna complain, You're going to fight back,
and trust me, like what you're saying is much more
PG compared to what other people have been.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Saying about Right, So I'm not alone.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Okay, it's no, it's the idea that she's being cast
season after season after season and she brings nothing aside
from being a good competitor.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah, that's basically it. Like, yes, there's like not a
lot of gameplay.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
I guess if you brought in Nannie, right, you'd have
the relationship aspect, but outside of that, you know, yeah,
you're right.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
That's exactly what I was going to say. The seasons
where like she was, you know, pursuing Nannie and the
relationship started like that was that was better with Casey.
But now, especially when she called Jenny a rookie, It's
like Jenny beat you in a final when you were
a rookie. Like, you can't call someone a rookie who
(13:11):
beat you in a final and is a champ. And
especially on this season, nobody on Battle of the Eras
is a rookie, Like that word should not be being said
in the house. Yeah, I just don't understand that. Like
they cast forty of the best challengers in the history
of the show. Nobody in there is a rookie by
(13:33):
any definition of the word.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
And look, you think Casey would respect her because she's
touch like a good game player.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah, And I like the I like when people on
the show have confidence in swagger, But there is a
huge difference between having confidence in swagger and then just
being cocky and arrogant. They're like, there's a line to teeter,
and yeah, I think she's been used to like cakewalking
it to the end with the vacation alliance on these
(14:04):
seasons that we've been podcasting about before a Battle of
the Eras, and now like she faces some trouble going
into elimination and it's it's something she's not used to.
But yeah, I thought this was so ridiculous of Oh,
we have this unspoken bond, like Rachel is somebody who
(14:26):
was always gonna play her game. She's not gonna, you know,
do these deals that the new school kids do before
the season starts, and uh, she does weigh the options
out though she she's saying how she thinks Kyland, you know,
he doesn't have a ton of allies in the game.
(14:46):
If she extends an olive branch to him, maybe this
is somebody who will look out for her down the road.
And I just I don't understand in it. Well, let
me let's get to the chamber and then we'll circle
back to the vacation alliance. But we're in the chamber,
(15:07):
and I think for me, it seemed pretty clear and
maybe you felt differently, but I didn't see a world
where Rachel was going to throw Ryan in. Like they're
showing the pictures of them doing challenges together twenty years ago,
their friends, Like, I just I know the argument was
there for Rachel to throw in Laurel and like Ryan
(15:30):
was just a casualty. But I didn't see it happening,
did you. Yeah, No, that would have never happened because
she still wins by throwing in Casey. That's still a
really strong girl.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah, I think I think that was just like for
you know, drama purposes.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
If I had to guess.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Drama purposes and they got to throw in, you know,
they got to fill time with something, yeah, to make
us think like, oh, maybe there's a chance. But I
really thought there was no chance that Rachel was throwing in. Now, look,
if it was an individual thing and Rachel had the
choice of just Laurel or just Casey, then maybe, But
(16:12):
I really it would have been it would not have
been smart of her to lose Ryan in a spot
like this, you know, because even if Ryan's not winning power,
if he goes into elimination and wins at some point,
that's somebody that Rachel's gonna want on her side. So
(16:34):
I did not think that was gonna happen, And ultimately
it doesn't. Era three and our four are going in
and I cannot believe it. There's been so much discourse
out there about the idea of Casey and Tory and Devon.
I get it a little bit more from Devon, but overall,
(16:54):
this idea that Josh should have done more to save
Era four. I don't know what Josh could have done here.
I really don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, that was that was interesting to me too. What
what do we what are we getting mad at? Like
I have no idea what they expected Josh to do.
I mean, it's it's the it's the.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Obvious thing, right, And then they're all like, oh, Josh
is like you know, because Josh didn't fight for me,
Like what.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Do you what do you you want to?
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Like these people were asking Josh to cut off Rachel,
like hey, if you don't pick Casey, you're cut off?
Like what kind of what kind of ship is that?
I thought that was these new people take shit too far.
They take everything personal, they take shit too far.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I don't know that. That's just my take here. I
thought that. I thought that was Like I wasn't a fan.
I was like, I was like, what are they asking her?
What are they asking Josh to do right now?
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Like yeah, And it's also like they're they're acting like
Josh won the challenge with Rachel, right, and like the
chance to actual do something about this. He it was
Rachel's sole decision. Whatever Rachel wanted to do was going
to happen. There wasn't going to be a stalemate like
(18:10):
we've had earlier this season. There wasn't going to be
a vote. It was what Rachel wanted to do was
what was going to happen. And for Rachel's game, you know,
she made a decision. Now, Like I get because Josh
has all these io yous and you know, he's friends
with a lot of people because he's done all these
(18:30):
seasons that might be frustrating, but for Josh's game, it's
been working out for him. So I'm not as I'm
surprised that I'm saying this, but I'm really not mad
at Josh.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Like no, no, I don't know. They keep saying he's
got so many io youth.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
It was weird what could he have done? And like
I do obviously, like if you're Corey Wharton, like I
get why Corey's upset with Josh. That makes complete sense.
But the other people in the Vacation Alliance, like Josh
has been an integral part of them being safe and
(19:13):
the one time that ever three gets last place, Like,
why aren't they talking about that part? Why didn't they
just say, oh, we should have done better in the
Daily Challenge, so we weren't in this position to begin with.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Yeah, I don't know why they put it on him.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
It's where I just I really I've been trying to,
you know, make sense of it, and it really doesn't
make sense to me anybody, Like all of the stuff
I've seen out there on social media, the arguments each
way on like oh Josh could have done this, done that.
(19:48):
I just it doesn't benefit Rachel's game. I think she
made the best decision here. Of course the elimination out comes,
it works out even better for Rachel with how these
eliminations come out here. But there's no benefit for her
to throw in Laurel and Ryan, who she just did
(20:10):
all starts forward with. She's friends with them, she's you know,
I'm sure there's.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Yeah, and it's not like it's not like she's gonna
piss anybody off in the long term, like everybody understands
the move.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Yeah, that's the other thing too.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I was like, it doesn't make sense for her to
put in Laurel and Ryan.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
And let's remember this is now the second time because
early in the season when Avery and Tony stalemated. This
is now the second time when Casey and Kyland were
the reps and basically the whole house wanted Kyland and
Casey to go in the first time, it didn't work,
(20:48):
and I think Josh may have heard from more people
this time. They were like, the shot is here, let's
make sure we don't miss this time. And you know
Rachel doesn't miss and it's Kylon versus Devon, Tory and Casey.
(21:09):
I just wish they would have done. I'm not saying,
and I said this on the other podcast this week,
I am not saying this needed to be a headbanger.
I just wish this was something different.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
I know, I know, just weird stuff.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
You've got. You've got two guys that have went far
on these recent seasons, and Devin, who's a champ, going
against each other. Then you've got Tory and Casey, who
are two of your most recent female champs and who
have went far on a lot of these recent seasons.
(21:44):
So if you have new viewers to your show, right,
you can display that you can say like, hey, look
at this. You know, we got our our champs going.
We have three three of our most recent champs going
into elimination tonight, and then they do this like we're
gonna it's like, you know, oh, I'm at my parents'
(22:06):
house and there's a bunch of chords in the basement
and I'm gonna, you know, make sure I plug it
into the right slot. You know. I just like it's like,
come on, we couldn't do something else?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Nothing?
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Yeah, yeah, I mean when's the I mean, when's the
last time we got it? Well, I guess I think
we got a physical one. Oh yeah, we got a
physical one last time. So I mean, yeah, I just
want like a classic. I think I'm waiting for another
classic like elimination. You can't tease us in episode one
and then like never do a classic elimination after that,
(22:41):
you know what I mean, Like you started off so
well and now it's just like these weird eliminations.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
You know. When this cast got announced, and I think
I may have mentioned this in our first couple episodes,
I thought I was like, they're going to bring back eliminations,
even if that person isn't in that they're gonna bring
back eliminations that like highlight this person's challenge career, right,
Like they're obviously going to bring back Poul Russell because
(23:09):
like Derek Kazinski is, you know, that's his thing. You know,
Paul Russell, he's won that much. They brought back the
one that CT lost to Jay right, and you know,
I just thought, like, we're gonna see all of the classics,
all of the like emotional moments in in Sand, and
(23:32):
there's been a couple that I've just been like, what
in the world are we doing now? Granted, there have
been a few new ones, like the one uh Durrell
versus Tony and Avery versus Jody with the uh the
word puzzle and the colored blocks like that was different
and fun and I like that, but there have been
(23:55):
too many on an iconic Hallmark season like this. I
just I feel like you have to nail every elimination
on a season like this, and I don't think it's
that much to ask for because this elimination was so
far off being like a you know, we're grabbing the
audience's attention. You know, this is intense, this is fun.
(24:17):
It just wasn't there. It really is. Yeah, I was.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Boring and like it was just Yeah, it was the
way they couldn't even edit it to make it fun.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah, and right on with the editing because they couldn't
even edit it to make it look like, Okay, here
we go, this is who's winning, this is who's losing.
We we had no clue, or at least I didn't,
like until they plugged them in and we saw the
whites go up. Then I started to realize it. But
this was this was just a mess. Yeah, so the
(24:52):
guys go first, and I don't know what Devin Devon
must have thought he saw something here because he keeps
yanking at the same middle uh, like the middle chord,
and he was not listening to anybody in the crowd.
(25:13):
I think a lot of people wanted Devin to win.
I think they noticed Devin was not fully focused on
the game this season, and he was much more like
with Michelle and like his I wasn't on the prize
as much. And uh, they knew Kylon's been locked in.
(25:34):
He has every time he comes to the show, he
is locked in. Yep, there's really not much to dissect
with this. Kylon dominates and beats Devin here.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Yeah, so boring.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I'll give Kylon a ton of credit. He is seven
and two in eliminations. Now he's beat three champs if my,
He's beat Brad Durrell, Durrell again and now Devon, so
he has four wins against champs. Like, I get why
(26:10):
people want him out of the game, but uh, Kylon's
one of those players. There are certain people where if
you want him out, you got to go do it
yourself in the sand, because he's not gonna lose.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, he's a beast.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
I think you're gonna have to get somebody over, like
more physical than him and do something physical because you're
not gonna beat him in like a mental cop.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
No, No, he was locked in. I guess, like the
only thing to add the first time Kylon locked in
all forty of these things of the lights, if you will,
he had thirty four out of forty, right, and Devin
was still trying to yank that middle part. So I
think everyone kind of knew, like this is over. It's
just gonna take Kyland a little bit of time, and
(26:52):
you know we're gonna be done here. Yeah, you know,
Kyland gets it done and now we're onto girls. And
what I will say, at least the girls were much
closer here, you.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Know, yeah, very close.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
They were moving very fast with the chords. I think
they probably learned from Kyland and learned what not to
do with how Devin performed. Very close, back and forth,
back and forth. They're pretty much at the same spot
(27:30):
every time they call for a check. But we we
know this is a big elimination. Whoever goes home. This
is going to be a shift in the game with alliances.
The girls are going to be happy whoever goes home
because this is you can see either one of these
girls being the girl that wins this season and ultimately
(27:54):
Tory Deal beats Casey here and Casey Clark. I think
this was the earliest in the season that she's been
out of the game by her doing. Definitely a bit
of a shocker, but on an elimination like this, a
(28:14):
toss up of who was going to go home?
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Yeah, no, I mean you're gonna have this was like
a man, can you imagine this was like a headbanger.
This would have been a top elimination. You know, it's
still a good one, but like nobody's gonna look back
and be like, oh yeah, like crazy. You know, I
wish it.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Was a little bit better.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
That's okay, I think in looking back, I was thinking
about this this week. You know, we started the season
with the invitational eliminations with Halborough Paul wrestle balls in
and then the like cage one where they have to
like put all this stuff in front of the cage,
and the other the one that j beats CTAM. That's
(28:55):
the easiest way to describe it. Everyone knows once you
say that. I feel like they could have done two
of those to start the season and then save two
of them for later on in the season. This would
have been a perfect.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
Yeah, it would have been a good time to do it.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
It's a shame of course they don't know that, like
Toy is going to face Casey, and especially in this
spot in the game, right it's the halfway point. They're
going to individual right after these eliminations. Man, this would
have been fun to have physical but it is what
(29:33):
it is. Casey and Devin going home.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Yeah, a huge week for Era two and one. I
mean Era four. Era four has really been dominating, so
it's big for them to lose Casey, but they still
have Kylon back.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Then we get the big twist, right, big twist.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
I think a lot of people probably had that feeling,
that inkling that it was going to go individual. You know,
TJ did say at the beginning of season like, you know,
whichever era wins the final is going to split one
million dollars. I'm sure a lot of them were kind
of like, yeah, whatever, we're going to be in eras
and that it's going to go to individual. And sure enough,
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with eighteen people left in the game, we are going individual.
And I think arguably the well that I'm only saying
arguably because it seemed like a lot of people knew
it was going individual. At some point we find out
that we're still doing targets as the voting mechanic as
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it goes to an individual game. So Tory picks three,
Kylon picks three. Aviv kind of mentions it how these
individual relationships and TJ's mentioned it all season, the individual
relationships are so key because even if you're not friends
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with someone on the bottom and they win an elimination,
they're going to target you. So Tory picks Ryan and Derek,
which I wasn't overly shocked about. You know, she doesn't
know them as much, and you know, not overly surprising,
but them Bananas gets picked, and I think a lot
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of people were surprised here. They've been allies on a
number of seasons together and she picks Bananas. Of there
were a lot of options on the table that Tory
could have picked on the guy's side, and she picks Bananas. Yeah, surprised.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Yeah, Well with Tory, uh, I don't know, it seems
like they're very much again, I mean, it's it's it's Devon, right,
So it seems like, you know, it's it's they're doing
what Devin wants to.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Do, so to avenge Devon.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
And then it's it seems like they they line this
up for a nice like fight next week.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
So they try to avenge Devin. But again, like is
that the best move for her game? I don't know,
Probably not. Like Bananas I think would have had Tori's back.
He the only female ally that well, Johnny's got Jenny
and Laurel, but other than that, like, there's not many
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girls that are gonna be looking out for Bananas.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
So I know he's in a tough spot. This will
be interesting.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
He's I think he's gonna go into elimination after elimination
until he's sent home.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yeah, unless, of course, you know, Johnny has a good
track record in these dailies, So yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
He's got to win, He's got to start winning.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
But it's very possible he goes into this next elimination. Yeah,
and Ryan and Derek art slouches. So whoever he ends
up going in against, you know, it's gonna be a
tough battle next week. Kylon then picks Uh again. On
the women's side, we got three really strong competitors. Kylin
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picks Rachel, Aviv and Jenny. Now, of course Aviv is
really strong, but I mean the possibility of a Rachel
Robinson in Jenny West's elimination next week. I mean that
that's like an unreal matchup right there.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah, you said Rachel and who.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
It's Rachel Leviv and Jenny or the.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Rachel and Jenny would be crazy h for Aviv for
Aviv in the middle there hopefully.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
You know.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
But my question is, like, what do you think the
individual targets? Like, because it's individual now, so like does
it how does that work?
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I'm very curious.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Maybe they'll start making maybe they'll start making teams and
the targets are captains.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
That's what I can made.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Maybe, and then the captains have to go in because
like otherwise, if you're a target and you lose and
you don't lose, if you're a target and you don't lose,
what happens do you automatically go in?
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Can then the winner only choose the targets to go in,
Like I don't. I don't understand how that works.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
So I think they're going to keep doing elimination winners
picking the targets, and I think unless you win the daily,
you're still a target. And then my guess, I think
the team captain thing like you said, is a great guess.
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I just don't know if it's going to be possible
with the numbers. What I do think they're going to
do is if you pick a target and they win
a daily, they're going to be like, hey, by the way,
now you got to pick a new target. Yeah, and
piss off somebody else. So there are questions to be
answered with the format, like you said, because yeah, what
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happens if Rachel, leviv or Jenny win the daily? And
that's very possible, right, these are three of the strongest
girls left. One of them could easily win. What happens
if Bananas wins the Daily, that's very possible. No one
would had any if Johnny wins the Daily, So a
lot of questions to be answered with this individual format.
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It's going to be very cool to see. I will say,
since we're we're done in the episode here, Challenge fans
take a look out because the the little birdies in
the in the social media streets have said that the
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Challengers that are going to the reunion are flying out today.
So in the next couple of days, I'm sure there's
going to be more stuff out there about what happened
at the reunion, who was there, who was not there,
And they're they're filming it in Amsterdam, which I'm very honest,
(35:59):
it's it seems like a great location. I'm sure many
of them are going to make a whole you know,
fly to Amsterdam and then go around and go to
other places.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
So yeah, that sounds sick. You can train do a
lot of places from Amsterdam.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah, so it should be a lot of fun. Of course,
we will be back next week to break down episode
ten about all the eras. You know, make sure you
check out everything we're up to on Instagram, Twitter Challenge,
Underscore Fanatics Underscore podcast on Instagram to see our recent
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episodes with challengers on the season. We have six interviews
with people on the season and we have hopefully a
couple more scheduled as this season wine it's down, very
much looking forward to it and very thankful to have
spoken to all those people. We will be back next week.
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Hope you all have a great week.
What's going on? Everybody? And welcome back to another episode
of the Challenge Fan Addicts podcast. We are here to
continue breaking down Battle of the Era's episode nine, an
Era of one. My name is Josh Green. You can
find us on all social media platforms at Challenge Fan
Pod and this podcast is not a Party of one.
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I'm here back with my co host, the Great Austoin
Piegel said, Austin, how you doing good?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Doing pretty well? How are you looking forward to recapping
this episode?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I'm marvelous. We're love to hear it. We're back, and
we're back. A lot of a lot of fun here.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Was had in this. This daily a lot to get into.
So let's let's dive right in. We we come back
and our former guest Ryan Keho is talking about how
he volunteered to be a target here. He wants to
protect Rachel if Era two pulls.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Out the win. He knows that Laurel will not throw
the challenge because she will go into elimination if they
purposely throw, and he knows more than likely that Rachel
will have his back if she were to win this.
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And I thought this was a good strategy by Ryan.
And then we start to get the foreshadowing of the
Vacation Alliance, how they've had success thus far in the game,
they haven't went into elimination, and that Era three and
Era four continue to have each other's backs. So we're
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pretty much, if you were to succinctly sum up everything
before the Daily, it's that if Era one wins, they're
going to save Era two in vice versa, and if
Era three wins, they're going to save Era four and
vice versa. I personally will say that I'm very glad
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that this game is going to individual so we can
get rid of that Era one saving two and three
saving four mentality. Were you excited to see that this
thing is getting to an individual phase now?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Yeah, yeah, looking forward to that. I well, I don't
know at this point, right, we're still in the team phase.
But it's like, you know, you got like two teams first,
two teams, which I think just makes it better versus
everybody targeting you know.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
One team.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Yeah, so we will we'll see how it all shakes
out later on. But we were heading too this daily.
H there's a giant container above the water, you know.
I think everybody was a little confused as far as
how in what they really were going to be doing here,
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but we're told that this daily is called bottoms Out. First,
before they even get into that giant, giant container, they're
going to be solving twenty seven math equations. Now equations
(03:30):
is putting it lightly because Austin knows my father, and
we were sitting here watching the episode together, and when
the square root of thirty six popped up on the screen,
he was like, you've got to be fucking kidding me.
This is a question that they have to answer.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
It, Like it's so bad because like you know, like okay,
like some you know, decent, some decent like Matt Okay,
like I get it, but like easy shit like this,
like I don't, I.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Don't get it. I really don't get it.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
It was so there was that right, there was then
there was it was like thirty three minus twenty two
minus ten, which I was like, this is crazy. These
are so simple it Like I thought, I was like, oh,
maybe they'll just throw like one really simple one in
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there to like get them to overthink it or something.
I don't know. But literally every single one of these
questions was so so simple. And it's fitting because Devin
talks about in other seasons, how like it's basic math
that these people get so wrong. And I was surprised
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that the number of so every question that you get
right is a foothold or an armhold on this giant container.
And I was surprised that how little footholds these eras
had because these questions were they were so simple. Like
there was another one that was like the square root
of sixty four? I know, are you kidding?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
It's eight some right?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Seriously, these people should know just from that song, even
if you don't know the math, like just remember the lyric.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah I don't.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
I you know, you're always like oh you know, like yeah,
it seems kind of tough, but like, dude, some of
this math is so easy.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I don't understand how.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
I don't understand how these people can go through life
and be like, yeah, I don't know what the square
root of thirty six is.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
It's just blows my mind.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Now.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
That should have been rapid fire.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Also, not a good performance from Kylon either.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
No, no, and everyone has been saying, like Kylon the calculator,
Kylon's and he's sped up and took took leadership on
Air four on this one and he was a target,
so like, it makes sense that Kyland this was the
perfect challenge for him to be the uh the leader
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for their era on. But I was I was very
surprised at how poor he did here. I was like, oh,
this is right up Kyland's alley. They're going to have
like twenty five you know, footholds and armholds to grab onto.
They're going to be able to move around when a
few people drop. But that was not the case at all.
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But the of course the biggest headline here of this
daily challenge, A lot of people had been wondering, you know,
are these daily challenges going to start to benefit a
team that has less people in particular team of one
because Rachel's by herself on Erro one and she completely
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you know, Neamiah did really well for aer too, but Rachel.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Absolutely beat is crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah. I don't know how she did that.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, she's a beast. It's fun to watch. It's very
easy to root for. So like, good for her, it
was that was awesome to watch.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I have no clue how she did it. We I
spoke to Alan and Geary about this episode as well,
so check that out. Uh, he has a lot of
great content on the medium dot com about the challenge
and his own podcast over on Caffeine Confessionals, and he
brought up an interesting way to like improve this daily.
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Remember the Survivor community challenge where they like hold on
to the poll and they're all doing it at the
same time. Maybe he was saying it could have been well, basically,
it would have been interesting like that Survivor challenge if
they all were whole thing on, if they put all
twenty people up in the container.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Oh my god, yeah yeah, no, yeah, have been so
much fun.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
It's like an endurance thing and like a because it
would have been me and Maiah versus Rachel at the end,
and then we would have seen Rachel hang on for
like another seven eight minutes. But we've been seeing these
confessionals throughout the season. Rachel does not want Era one
or herself to be slept on. She beats everybody here,
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She beats the guys, she beats the girls, and Rachel
Robinson has the sole decision on who is going in
against Era three. Ever three gets last place here, so Tory,
Deal and Devin are immediately in very surprising here to
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see that they're going into elimination based off a daily challenge.
I when I saw, you know, when this started and
how the format shook out, I was like, this team
has never getting last place, but here we are. Yep,
here we are. So we're either getting Laurel and Ryan
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or Kayland in Casey against Tory and Devin either way,
a heavyweight female matchup. I mean easily on paper, the
best female matchup of the season, whether it's Laurel or
Casey going in against Tory, and then it's either going
to be Kyland or Ryan going in against Devon. Tough,
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tough week to be Michelle Pitzgild. You know, one of
her strongest allies has been Kayland, and of course her
new man Devin is automatically going into elimination. So really
can't get much worse for Michelle.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Yeah, now, not not good, but I mean again, if
I also think about it, like at the end of
the day, she she loses either way, but she also
still wins either way, so it stucks, but it's not
like the end of the world, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, yeah, because you know, she a strong girl, is
going to go out of the game either way.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
So she wins there and then you know, you hope,
you hope that Devin can come out of the elimination
and then set the targets for the girls.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Well for her, for her shake right.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah, so it while it is a precarious situation for her,
it can end up working out really well to her advantage.
This night out might have been the funniest night out
of the entire season, and I'm I'm excited to talk
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more about this. Alan and I spoke a good bit
about the vacation alliance and the inner workings of all
of this. But the idea that Casey Clark thinks that
her and Rachel have this unspoken bond because of Josh.
It was just absurd to me that she thought that
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Rachel was just going to keep her safe because of
somebody else in the game.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Yeah, she was interesting. I I don't know. I've been
talking to Cory about this, and like, I like Casey
a lot as a person, But the more I see
her in confessionals during during these like things, like, the
more I kind of get annoyed, Yeah, with her, Like,
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I don't know, she I think the more that she's
been playing, she kind of feels entitled to things and
and I just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I never really liked that in the Challenge, So I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
This is the first season where I'm like, oh, she's
getting kind of annoying. That's like my take. I don't
want to be like too. I really like Casey in general.
I think she's like a beast competitor, but like the
gameplay this year, I think specifically maybe towards Jenny.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I don't know why she doesn't like Jenny.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Uh, if you're getting targeted as much as Jenny is, like,
you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Complain about it, right, Like, I don't know, that's just
my take.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I guess no, you're gonna complain, You're going to fight back,
and trust me, like what you're saying is much more
PG compared to what other people have been.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Saying about Right, So I'm not alone.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Okay, it's no, it's the idea that she's being cast
season after season after season and she brings nothing aside
from being a good competitor.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah, that's basically it. Like, yes, there's like not a
lot of gameplay.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
I guess if you brought in Nannie, right, you'd have
the relationship aspect, but outside of that, you know, yeah,
you're right.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
That's exactly what I was going to say. The seasons
where like she was, you know, pursuing Nannie and the
relationship started like that was that was better with Casey.
But now, especially when she called Jenny a rookie, It's
like Jenny beat you in a final when you were
a rookie. Like, you can't call someone a rookie who
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beat you in a final and is a champ. And
especially on this season, nobody on Battle of the Eras
is a rookie, Like that word should not be being said
in the house. Yeah, I just don't understand that. Like
they cast forty of the best challengers in the history
of the show. Nobody in there is a rookie by
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any definition of the word.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
And look, you think Casey would respect her because she's
touch like a good game player.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah, And I like the I like when people on
the show have confidence in swagger, But there is a
huge difference between having confidence in swagger and then just
being cocky and arrogant. They're like, there's a line to teeter,
and yeah, I think she's been used to like cakewalking
it to the end with the vacation alliance on these
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seasons that we've been podcasting about before a Battle of
the Eras, and now like she faces some trouble going
into elimination and it's it's something she's not used to.
But yeah, I thought this was so ridiculous of Oh,
we have this unspoken bond, like Rachel is somebody who
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was always gonna play her game. She's not gonna, you know,
do these deals that the new school kids do before
the season starts, and uh, she does weigh the options
out though she she's saying how she thinks Kyland, you know,
he doesn't have a ton of allies in the game.
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If she extends an olive branch to him, maybe this
is somebody who will look out for her down the road.
And I just I don't understand in it. Well, let
me let's get to the chamber and then we'll circle
back to the vacation alliance. But we're in the chamber,
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and I think for me, it seemed pretty clear and
maybe you felt differently, but I didn't see a world
where Rachel was going to throw Ryan in. Like they're
showing the pictures of them doing challenges together twenty years ago,
their friends, Like, I just I know the argument was
there for Rachel to throw in Laurel and like Ryan
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was just a casualty. But I didn't see it happening,
did you. Yeah, No, that would have never happened because
she still wins by throwing in Casey. That's still a
really strong girl.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah, I think I think that was just like for
you know, drama purposes.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
If I had to guess.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Drama purposes and they got to throw in, you know,
they got to fill time with something, yeah, to make
us think like, oh, maybe there's a chance. But I
really thought there was no chance that Rachel was throwing in. Now, look,
if it was an individual thing and Rachel had the
choice of just Laurel or just Casey, then maybe, But
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I really it would have been it would not have
been smart of her to lose Ryan in a spot
like this, you know, because even if Ryan's not winning power,
if he goes into elimination and wins at some point,
that's somebody that Rachel's gonna want on her side. So
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I did not think that was gonna happen, And ultimately
it doesn't. Era three and our four are going in
and I cannot believe it. There's been so much discourse
out there about the idea of Casey and Tory and Devon.
I get it a little bit more from Devon, but overall,
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this idea that Josh should have done more to save
Era four. I don't know what Josh could have done here.
I really don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, that was that was interesting to me too. What
what do we what are we getting mad at? Like
I have no idea what they expected Josh to do.
I mean, it's it's the it's the.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Obvious thing, right, And then they're all like, oh, Josh
is like you know, because Josh didn't fight for me,
Like what.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Do you what do you you want to?
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Like these people were asking Josh to cut off Rachel,
like hey, if you don't pick Casey, you're cut off?
Like what kind of what kind of ship is that?
I thought that was these new people take shit too far.
They take everything personal, they take shit too far.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I don't know that. That's just my take here. I
thought that. I thought that was Like I wasn't a fan.
I was like, I was like, what are they asking her?
What are they asking Josh to do right now?
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Like yeah, And it's also like they're they're acting like
Josh won the challenge with Rachel, right, and like the
chance to actual do something about this. He it was
Rachel's sole decision. Whatever Rachel wanted to do was going
to happen. There wasn't going to be a stalemate like
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we've had earlier this season. There wasn't going to be
a vote. It was what Rachel wanted to do was
what was going to happen. And for Rachel's game, you know,
she made a decision. Now, Like I get because Josh
has all these io yous and you know, he's friends
with a lot of people because he's done all these
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seasons that might be frustrating, but for Josh's game, it's
been working out for him. So I'm not as I'm
surprised that I'm saying this, but I'm really not mad
at Josh.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Like no, no, I don't know. They keep saying he's
got so many io youth.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
It was weird what could he have done? And like
I do obviously, like if you're Corey Wharton, like I
get why Corey's upset with Josh. That makes complete sense.
But the other people in the Vacation Alliance, like Josh
has been an integral part of them being safe and
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the one time that ever three gets last place, Like,
why aren't they talking about that part? Why didn't they
just say, oh, we should have done better in the
Daily Challenge, so we weren't in this position to begin with.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Yeah, I don't know why they put it on him.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
It's where I just I really I've been trying to,
you know, make sense of it, and it really doesn't
make sense to me anybody, Like all of the stuff
I've seen out there on social media, the arguments each
way on like oh Josh could have done this, done that.
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I just it doesn't benefit Rachel's game. I think she
made the best decision here. Of course the elimination out comes,
it works out even better for Rachel with how these
eliminations come out here. But there's no benefit for her
to throw in Laurel and Ryan, who she just did
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all starts forward with. She's friends with them, she's you know,
I'm sure there's.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Yeah, and it's not like it's not like she's gonna
piss anybody off in the long term, like everybody understands
the move.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Yeah, that's the other thing too.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I was like, it doesn't make sense for her to
put in Laurel and Ryan.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
And let's remember this is now the second time because
early in the season when Avery and Tony stalemated. This
is now the second time when Casey and Kyland were
the reps and basically the whole house wanted Kyland and
Casey to go in the first time, it didn't work,
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and I think Josh may have heard from more people
this time. They were like, the shot is here, let's
make sure we don't miss this time. And you know
Rachel doesn't miss and it's Kylon versus Devon, Tory and Casey.
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I just wish they would have done. I'm not saying,
and I said this on the other podcast this week,
I am not saying this needed to be a headbanger.
I just wish this was something different.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
I know, I know, just weird stuff.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
You've got. You've got two guys that have went far
on these recent seasons, and Devin, who's a champ, going
against each other. Then you've got Tory and Casey, who
are two of your most recent female champs and who
have went far on a lot of these recent seasons.
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So if you have new viewers to your show, right,
you can display that you can say like, hey, look
at this. You know, we got our our champs going.
We have three three of our most recent champs going
into elimination tonight, and then they do this like we're
gonna it's like, you know, oh, I'm at my parents'
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house and there's a bunch of chords in the basement
and I'm gonna, you know, make sure I plug it
into the right slot. You know. I just like it's like,
come on, we couldn't do something else?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Nothing?
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Yeah, yeah, I mean when's the I mean, when's the
last time we got it? Well, I guess I think
we got a physical one. Oh yeah, we got a
physical one last time. So I mean, yeah, I just
want like a classic. I think I'm waiting for another
classic like elimination. You can't tease us in episode one
and then like never do a classic elimination after that,
(22:41):
you know what I mean, Like you started off so
well and now it's just like these weird eliminations.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
You know. When this cast got announced, and I think
I may have mentioned this in our first couple episodes,
I thought I was like, they're going to bring back eliminations,
even if that person isn't in that they're gonna bring
back eliminations that like highlight this person's challenge career, right,
Like they're obviously going to bring back Poul Russell because
(23:09):
like Derek Kazinski is, you know, that's his thing. You know,
Paul Russell, he's won that much. They brought back the
one that CT lost to Jay right, and you know,
I just thought, like, we're gonna see all of the classics,
all of the like emotional moments in in Sand, and
(23:32):
there's been a couple that I've just been like, what
in the world are we doing now? Granted, there have
been a few new ones, like the one uh Durrell
versus Tony and Avery versus Jody with the uh the
word puzzle and the colored blocks like that was different
and fun and I like that, but there have been
(23:55):
too many on an iconic Hallmark season like this. I
just I feel like you have to nail every elimination
on a season like this, and I don't think it's
that much to ask for because this elimination was so
far off being like a you know, we're grabbing the
audience's attention. You know, this is intense, this is fun.
(24:17):
It just wasn't there. It really is. Yeah, I was.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Boring and like it was just Yeah, it was the
way they couldn't even edit it to make it fun.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah, and right on with the editing because they couldn't
even edit it to make it look like, Okay, here
we go, this is who's winning, this is who's losing.
We we had no clue, or at least I didn't,
like until they plugged them in and we saw the
whites go up. Then I started to realize it. But
this was this was just a mess. Yeah, so the
(24:52):
guys go first, and I don't know what Devin Devon
must have thought he saw something here because he keeps
yanking at the same middle uh, like the middle chord,
and he was not listening to anybody in the crowd.
(25:13):
I think a lot of people wanted Devin to win.
I think they noticed Devin was not fully focused on
the game this season, and he was much more like
with Michelle and like his I wasn't on the prize
as much. And uh, they knew Kylon's been locked in.
(25:34):
He has every time he comes to the show, he
is locked in. Yep, there's really not much to dissect
with this. Kylon dominates and beats Devin here.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Yeah, so boring.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I'll give Kylon a ton of credit. He is seven
and two in eliminations. Now he's beat three champs if my,
He's beat Brad Durrell, Durrell again and now Devon, so
he has four wins against champs. Like, I get why
(26:10):
people want him out of the game, but uh, Kylon's
one of those players. There are certain people where if
you want him out, you got to go do it
yourself in the sand, because he's not gonna lose.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, he's a beast.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
I think you're gonna have to get somebody over, like
more physical than him and do something physical because you're
not gonna beat him in like a mental cop.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
No, No, he was locked in. I guess, like the
only thing to add the first time Kylon locked in
all forty of these things of the lights, if you will,
he had thirty four out of forty, right, and Devin
was still trying to yank that middle part. So I
think everyone kind of knew, like this is over. It's
just gonna take Kyland a little bit of time, and
(26:52):
you know we're gonna be done here. Yeah, you know,
Kyland gets it done and now we're onto girls. And
what I will say, at least the girls were much
closer here, you.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Know, yeah, very close.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
They were moving very fast with the chords. I think
they probably learned from Kyland and learned what not to
do with how Devin performed. Very close, back and forth,
back and forth. They're pretty much at the same spot
(27:30):
every time they call for a check. But we we
know this is a big elimination. Whoever goes home. This
is going to be a shift in the game with alliances.
The girls are going to be happy whoever goes home
because this is you can see either one of these
girls being the girl that wins this season and ultimately
(27:54):
Tory Deal beats Casey here and Casey Clark. I think
this was the earliest in the season that she's been
out of the game by her doing. Definitely a bit
of a shocker, but on an elimination like this, a
(28:14):
toss up of who was going to go home?
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Yeah, no, I mean you're gonna have this was like
a man, can you imagine this was like a headbanger.
This would have been a top elimination. You know, it's
still a good one, but like nobody's gonna look back
and be like, oh yeah, like crazy. You know, I
wish it.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Was a little bit better.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
That's okay, I think in looking back, I was thinking
about this this week. You know, we started the season
with the invitational eliminations with Halborough Paul wrestle balls in
and then the like cage one where they have to
like put all this stuff in front of the cage,
and the other the one that j beats CTAM. That's
(28:55):
the easiest way to describe it. Everyone knows once you
say that. I feel like they could have done two
of those to start the season and then save two
of them for later on in the season. This would
have been a perfect.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
Yeah, it would have been a good time to do it.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
It's a shame of course they don't know that, like
Toy is going to face Casey, and especially in this
spot in the game, right it's the halfway point. They're
going to individual right after these eliminations. Man, this would
have been fun to have physical but it is what
(29:33):
it is. Casey and Devin going home.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Yeah, a huge week for Era two and one. I
mean Era four. Era four has really been dominating, so
it's big for them to lose Casey, but they still
have Kylon back.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Then we get the big twist, right, big twist.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
I think a lot of people probably had that feeling,
that inkling that it was going to go individual. You know,
TJ did say at the beginning of season like, you know,
whichever era wins the final is going to split one
million dollars. I'm sure a lot of them were kind
of like, yeah, whatever, we're going to be in eras
and that it's going to go to individual. And sure enough,
(30:14):
with eighteen people left in the game, we are going individual.
And I think arguably the well that I'm only saying
arguably because it seemed like a lot of people knew
it was going individual. At some point we find out
that we're still doing targets as the voting mechanic as
(30:35):
it goes to an individual game. So Tory picks three,
Kylon picks three. Aviv kind of mentions it how these
individual relationships and TJ's mentioned it all season, the individual
relationships are so key because even if you're not friends
(30:56):
with someone on the bottom and they win an elimination,
they're going to target you. So Tory picks Ryan and Derek,
which I wasn't overly shocked about. You know, she doesn't
know them as much, and you know, not overly surprising,
but them Bananas gets picked, and I think a lot
(31:17):
of people were surprised here. They've been allies on a
number of seasons together and she picks Bananas. Of there
were a lot of options on the table that Tory
could have picked on the guy's side, and she picks Bananas. Yeah, surprised.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Yeah, Well with Tory, uh, I don't know, it seems
like they're very much again, I mean, it's it's it's Devon, right,
So it seems like, you know, it's it's they're doing
what Devin wants to.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Do, so to avenge Devon.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
And then it's it seems like they they line this
up for a nice like fight next week.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
So they try to avenge Devin. But again, like is
that the best move for her game? I don't know,
Probably not. Like Bananas I think would have had Tori's back.
He the only female ally that well, Johnny's got Jenny
and Laurel, but other than that, like, there's not many
(32:24):
girls that are gonna be looking out for Bananas.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
So I know he's in a tough spot. This will
be interesting.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
He's I think he's gonna go into elimination after elimination
until he's sent home.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yeah, unless, of course, you know, Johnny has a good
track record in these dailies, So yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
He's got to win, He's got to start winning.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
But it's very possible he goes into this next elimination. Yeah,
and Ryan and Derek art slouches. So whoever he ends
up going in against, you know, it's gonna be a
tough battle next week. Kylon then picks Uh again. On
the women's side, we got three really strong competitors. Kylin
(33:05):
picks Rachel, Aviv and Jenny. Now, of course Aviv is
really strong, but I mean the possibility of a Rachel
Robinson in Jenny West's elimination next week. I mean that
that's like an unreal matchup right there.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah, you said Rachel and who.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
It's Rachel Leviv and Jenny or the.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Rachel and Jenny would be crazy h for Aviv for
Aviv in the middle there hopefully.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
You know.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
But my question is, like, what do you think the
individual targets? Like, because it's individual now, so like does
it how does that work?
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I'm very curious.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Maybe they'll start making maybe they'll start making teams and
the targets are captains.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
That's what I can made.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Maybe, and then the captains have to go in because
like otherwise, if you're a target and you lose and
you don't lose, if you're a target and you don't lose,
what happens do you automatically go in?
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Can then the winner only choose the targets to go in,
Like I don't. I don't understand how that works.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
So I think they're going to keep doing elimination winners
picking the targets, and I think unless you win the daily,
you're still a target. And then my guess, I think
the team captain thing like you said, is a great guess.
(34:31):
I just don't know if it's going to be possible
with the numbers. What I do think they're going to
do is if you pick a target and they win
a daily, they're going to be like, hey, by the way,
now you got to pick a new target. Yeah, and
piss off somebody else. So there are questions to be
answered with the format, like you said, because yeah, what
(34:54):
happens if Rachel, leviv or Jenny win the daily? And
that's very possible, right, these are three of the strongest
girls left. One of them could easily win. What happens
if Bananas wins the Daily, that's very possible. No one
would had any if Johnny wins the Daily, So a
lot of questions to be answered with this individual format.
(35:17):
It's going to be very cool to see. I will say,
since we're we're done in the episode here, Challenge fans
take a look out because the the little birdies in
the in the social media streets have said that the
(35:39):
Challengers that are going to the reunion are flying out today.
So in the next couple of days, I'm sure there's
going to be more stuff out there about what happened
at the reunion, who was there, who was not there,
And they're they're filming it in Amsterdam, which I'm very honest,
(35:59):
it's it seems like a great location. I'm sure many
of them are going to make a whole you know,
fly to Amsterdam and then go around and go to
other places.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
So yeah, that sounds sick. You can train do a
lot of places from Amsterdam.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah, so it should be a lot of fun. Of course,
we will be back next week to break down episode
ten about all the eras. You know, make sure you
check out everything we're up to on Instagram, Twitter Challenge,
Underscore Fanatics Underscore podcast on Instagram to see our recent
(36:35):
episodes with challengers on the season. We have six interviews
with people on the season and we have hopefully a
couple more scheduled as this season wine it's down, very
much looking forward to it and very thankful to have
spoken to all those people. We will be back next week.
(36:55):
Hope you all have a great week.
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