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Welcome to Episode 433 of The Clean Comedy Podcast! This week JD and Seth talk about their recent shows, bad crowds, and social media. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:21):
get some green. Hey everybody, welcome to the Clean Comedy Podcast.
It's JD and I'm here with my buddy Seth. Seth.
How's it going.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Hey, Hi, Hello, doing great?

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Welcome, It's good to be home. I'm home for let's
say Monday, to record us on Monday. I'll be released
on Tuesday, do some stuff on Wednesday. I actually have
a show on Monday in Agra Hills, the stuff on Wednesday,
and then fly back out on Thursday afternoon up to Wisconsin, Minneapolis,
call man. I really don't know where I'm going, uh, Chicago,

(00:54):
all that stuff. So it's a If you go to
Zane Lamprey dot com you can see where we'll be at.
We have. We just came back from a run through Colorado,
which uh did not go great. It was not great.
It was wild. What happened we don't know. We actually
don't know. Because here's the thing. So light crowds like crowds,

(01:20):
just like crowds and kind of weird crowds believe it
or not, like just crowds that were like just I
mean a lot of people who we have a lot
of crowds where people like talk during the show and
like talk back after I go up and do rules.
So I start the show like this and go, hey, everybody,
I just want to do lay a couple of ground
rules with you. You know, no photography, no video, no heckling, right,

(01:43):
you get it? And they go yeah. Then you go okay, uh,
grab drinks, have fun. That's all that we ask, right,
And then I start to show, you know, I do it,
fake it what I call the fake intro. I go,
I love this, I love this guy, he's great. Whatever,
please get up for mister J. D. Creviston. Like I clap,
I make them clap. I look around like I'm waiting
for him to come up on stage. And then I
grabbed the bike and I go that's me. And then

(02:04):
they know whatever, So I did the fake intro, and uh,
it was just just weird. Weird crowds, just weird. A
lot of a lot of people that were talkers during
the show that would like kind of I don't know,
it was it was just a very interesting thing. And yeah,
lightly attended, more lightly attended than we like, No, they were,
they weren't terrible. It was like if a comedian in

(02:27):
LA had those crowds, they'd be like, oh, this is great.
But us being on the road, you know, every ticket
is money and whatever, and it's just weird. I mean,
what's funny is okay? I don't know if you've ever
read this, there is a do you know gab gab
Gabriel Ruttriviledge is or Gay Rutledge.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
I know that name. I don't know who that is.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
You know, you know if you saw him, he's got
like a long kind of hair and he's done a
dry bar and stuff or whatever. But uh, he has
a book that he wrote. There's the what's the book called?
It's like because I've been reading it while I was flying.
Happiness isn't funny. Happiness isn't funny, and it's about like, uh,

(03:08):
true stories of our road comics so all these it's
kind of like a diary of him being on the road,
and he would talk about different things that I was
experiencing on the road and like, yeah, I'm at this place,
but it's the best, you know, comedy club between Albertson's
and h dry cleaner or whatever and stuff, and it
was like, you know, and it was like those things
like that. We had one place. I'm not gonna say

(03:31):
the place, but it was literally but we pulled up
and I was like, oh, no, is this the place?
And Zane was like yeah. I was like, oh my gosh.
It was between a trailer park and a gentleman and
a gentleman's club. And I was like, I was like, Zaye,
maybe we should just not go in there and ask
the Gentleman's club if we could perform there. I think

(03:51):
we do much better. And you know I'm saying and
I was like, oh, it's rough, dude. But it was
it was stuff like that, Like there was little things
where yeah, you're like, because we had a great last run.
The last one was amazing to say Northwest two hundred
plus people, tons of sold out shows, every show is

(04:13):
just amazing. And then we get to this and it
was like and it was really it was very humbling.
It was very humbling to go all right because we're
like we're the best, right whatever, and then we get
to that and like, yeah, that was fine. But I
saw you had a pretty good show here recently. I
saw like you wearing a suit in the photo that
I saw and stuff. Well, tell me about that show.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Are you talking about the papoosas and punchline show?

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Is that the one you're wearing a suit? Were you
wearing a full suit?

Speaker 2 (04:39):
I don't know. I don't know what you saw.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
You saw it on your Instagram. There was you you
were let me go.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Find a flyer, me in a suit on the flyer.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
No, it was you on suit on stage, in a
suit on stage. Yeah, well maybe it's down now. It
was all my stories, papoosas and punchlines. You wore a
you wore the green letter letterman jacket thing, Yeah there was.
Did you do another show as well?

Speaker 3 (05:03):
I mean, the only the only shows that I would
dress up for have been the ones put on by
Josh Edelman called well Dressed.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Maybe that was the one, but it was that one
was a while ago. But yes, thank you. Uh, maybe
eight months ago.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Now, oh no, okay, there was another one. What was
the last one you've done in the like last week
or two TV sets?

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (05:30):
I had my show TV sets and I had and punchlines.
Let me pull up my calendar.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
I don't, but I don't think I had anywhere. I
was on stage in a suit.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Somebody put a picture of you up with you in
a suit, and I don't remember what it was, but
it was very very sharp looking. I was like, oh,
look at seth.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, look I can I can clean it up.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Sometimes yeah, it's is punchlines and then yeah, my show weird,
but about it really lately, So yeah, it might have
been just an old picture that somebody put up.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
It was great, so I would go and how was
Papoosa's the punch lines? I love? By the way, I
love Josh Oban. I think he's great and hilarious.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
So that is Josh's fantastic papoosas and punchlines. I want
to make sure I get his last name right. It's
by Justin Alexio. Okay, he produces the papoosas and punchlines.
He's been selling out shows for like the last I
don't know year and a half or something like, wow.
He has done a phenomenal job with this show. It's

(06:35):
at a local Papoosas spot in Hollywood called Haragua and
packs it out.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Man.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
They have a little like showroom stage. People come get dinner.
It's joined to a bar so people can also get
drinks there. Very fun vibe, very fun room. Justin has
told me white comics tend to not do well in
that room because it's primarily Hispanic and.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Black, and.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
I seem to do alright there. So it's been very fun.
So that was my third I posted once and then
that was my second kind of set to do.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
How long did you do? How long was your set?

Speaker 2 (07:13):
I did about twenty.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
They had a guy drop, so they gave everybody a
little more time at least at the top of the show.
It was fantastic. Yeah, I had a blast, very very fun,
crowd perfect and the rest of the show I think
went great.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
So yeah, so it was fun.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
And then TV sets has been going well. We do
our model is free tickets, but then we asked for
a donation afterward, and what's been frustrating is it basically
sells out quote unquote online because everyone's like, oh yeah,
we'll come on because it's a free show, and then
about thirty percent of the people actually show up.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Wow, So maybe you need to make it pay a
little pay, like five bucks or something.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah, that's what that's. So that's what Chay, my co producer,
and I are debating about. We'll probably start that in
August and bump it up to five bucks.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Because now you're a little of Bestievil skin in the game.
Because even at our shows right tickets, tickets are twenty
five to forty dollars depending on what group which when
you get right, and we still see a ten percent
drop rate. Yeah, so say you sell one hundred tickets,
ninety people are going to show up. You know.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
It's it's it is crazy and I expected people to
not show up on a free ticket, Like I get that,
you know, it's no skin off their back to come
or not come. What's crazy to me is putting on
a good show and then asking for a donation at
the end.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
And it's it is kind of shocking how.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Few people are like yeah, and maybe it's because we're
kind of tapping into this tip culture that everyone's sick of,
and that's the way they view it. Is like I
don't want to tip you guys. You know it was
a free show. I don't need to tip you. I
thought it would be helpful for people to be like, hey,
I just experienced a wonderful show. I'll pay five bucks.
You know that was worth five dollars. So I've got

(09:00):
a kind of strategy on how to go forward, and
if it doesn't really work, then yeah, we're going to
go to probably just a minimal ticket sale and try
to get people to buy in upfront and come. The
other piece of it, honestly, is I just want emails
of who I can advertise to, and if they express
any interest at all in a free show, I feel
like now I can email you. You know, especially if

(09:22):
you don't come, you deserve an email. You deserve to
be on an email list where we won't leave you alone.
So it's been worth it, I think to at least
a mass a pool to market to, and then we
can kind of play with that as we go forward.
But it's still even with thirty to forty percent of
the people showing up, it's been great. We've had really

(09:42):
fun shows. We get great comics out, so no one
feels cheated at all. Out of the experience. It's been
very fun.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
And you do that one once a month, right.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, I'm just doing it once a month.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
I'm in and out of town too often and I
have too many kids to make a weekly happen.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
But the weekly open mic or whatever that you.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Do is the weekly.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Yeah, the open mic that I help post that is weekly.
And we are actually switching times because the Comedy Store
is now doing their set of the night mic.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
I don't know why they have so many open mics.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
I just saw that they also have a Sunday potluck,
so they're doing Sunday potluck, Monday potluck, and now Wednesdays
set of the mic night What the set of the
night Mic? Well, it's it's just another open mic. The
idea with the Wednesdays is it's from ten to midnight.
You show up, buy a drink, get a ticket.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Put that in the bucket.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
The more drinks you buy, the more tickets you get,
the more receipts you get, the more you put in
the bucket, the higher you know odds are you get
picked right.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
So that's the incentive for the club to do it.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
So it's another yet another ploy to keep the lights
on praying on those dreams.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Of the masses.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
And uh, if you win Set of.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
The Night, if you're Set is deemed the best Set
of the night that open mic, then you get a
guaranteed spot on Potluck. So it's like all these little
steps to what I don't know, suppose now the other
piece of Set of the Night, Mike, is that actually
allot the last few guys, I want to say, the
last few openings they've had at door guys at that

(11:22):
position at the Comedy Store, they've they have taken people
from Set of the Night, not pot Luck, Wow, which
is crazy to me, Like, just use one system. Either
make it Set of the Night or make it pot luck.
Don't make it both. It's it's ridiculous to me. But
you know, there's a new booker at the comedy Store.
We'll see how this new booker goes and what kind

(11:45):
of culture they create, see what happens. But yeah, shows
have been going good. I've been feeling good. Uh, and
now we're coming into summertime.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
You know, we're coming into summertime. I have I have
a you know, big runs here in May and uh
and June for that stuff. So we're doing May Wisconsin, Minnesota,
and then we're going up to Indiana and Chicago. Then
we're going up to Jersey and Pa. Then we're going
down to Texas and New Mexico and in June and Ohio, Indiana,

(12:19):
and again back to a small one in PA at
the end of at the end of June. So June
twenty eighth is when I my summer break starts there,
but after that I will be going so that one
I'll be after June twenty eighth, I'm doing a road
trip up to San Francisco with the family for a

(12:39):
week to do through like fourth of July weekend. Then
we come back in and we leave and we go
to the Cayman Islands in the middle of July for
eight days. I said, think or something like that. So, yeah,
that was my That was my gift to my wife
and kids for putting up with me being on the
road so much. As like, look, I will go on
a long, a long flights and journey with you guys

(13:02):
to the Cayman Islands to make it up to you.
And so they were like, okay, okay, yeah, that's not bad. Yeah, no,
it's not bad. It's not bad. We have we have
a friend who owns a condo and stuff there, so
we get to stay in their condo. So that saves
a bunch of money. But uh, and I got some
points from all the flying and traveling I'm and doing,
so that's going to be helpful. And then yeah, just
be just a good time. And then when then we

(13:24):
come back, I go back on tour Zane in August.
We might do some stuff in July around l A.
That's not confirmed yet because he'll still be doing shows
and I won't be opening for him during July because
I'll take taking a break for a little bit. So
I got to get caught up on school because some
way behind.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Oh sure, yeah, I was gonna say, how is the
law school thing going?

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Uh, it's I am. I am further behind than I
want to be. If I had to, if I had
to tell you, like, okay, let's say law school this
like ever for a year. Right, you're saying, if you're
going for a year, I am two months behind. Yeah,
but that's a lot. That's a lot more than I
want to be.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yeah, yeah, that's so.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
What I need to do is really like every day
be doing one thing. If I just did one thing
every day that's or rather like read the read the
book for the class, watch a lecture, do a case,
or do whatever. I could probably be back on track
this next month, which which actually I might do that

(14:22):
where this this trip here, the one that comes up
where we leave on the eighth to we come back
on the eighteenth. I might every day just go and
do do something. I might just like every day, I
gotta make sure or when I get up watch a
watch a talk or watch a lesson in the afternoon
before we go out, sit down and write. But I'm

(14:42):
also here's the problem. I'm also trying to edit a
bunch of stand up clips from all the shows we
have to put them together to put up on social
media so I can increase my followers and whatever, because
right now I'm below one thousand followers on Instagram. And
I know if I was posting a clip Monday Wednesday
from every week for the next month or two and

(15:03):
possibly editing, I would be way ahead of the game
and killing it. So that's that's one of the things
I'm doing when I'm home is going to be editing.
I have a nice little hard drive that I am
taking in and putting videos on and taking with me.
But it's like nice, it is. It is not easy
to be a commedian. It's so much to juggle.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
It is a lot that isn't on stage. That's what's frustrating.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeah is, And I guess you know that's the part
of it that makes it a job if you could.
I don't know what's another job that just has like
one fun part and the rest is just awful. But
that stand up the fun part is being on stage,
working out jokes, performing the rest of it. To be
able to do that and make money at that requires

(15:45):
editing video clips, putting those up, being an actor on
your own like it is ridiculous. You have to be
a writer, producer, director of your own content, and then
you can do stand up if you get the audience
online you want, you know. And that is my biggest
complaint about social media. One that it exists and two

(16:07):
that people care about it.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Why I know, Well, here's hearing about it. Did I
tell you about this that that Zanye and I found
this app that tells you how what percentage of people's
followers are fake?

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yes, you would not believe the amounts of people who
have fake followers and are getting booked all over the country,
and you're like, right, okay, wow, right if that's the
if you're saying, oh, yeah, they have two hundred thousand
followers or whatever and they're getting booked, but those people
aren't showing up. What is how is this happening? How
are you still getting booked? There's no way that's true

(16:37):
that you're getting so yeah, it's very weird to watch
watch it happen and go, I don't get it. I
don't understand. Should I just buy fake followers then so
that I can get booked everywhere? Like it doesn't make sense?
You know.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Zame would slap me in the mouth if I said
that in front of him, by the way, he'd be like,
do not ever in your life say that again. That
is terrible.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Oh we had fun.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
I mean we had fun. For the most part. Colorado
is mostly plains. I don't know if you've ever been there,
but I thought it was gonna be all mountains.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah. No, it depends on which part of Colorado you're in.
And I played Colorado Springs.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
There's some bualtins. It's like a valley type thing that
was at a valley.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
Yeah, And then I have a friend who's in Denver,
so I've been out to Denver.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
We did that.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
But yeah, and the shows that I did in Colorado
with wise guys also kind of light attendance, but they
seemed like pretty fun crowds, you know. But yeah, I
don't know how gung ho Coloradians are for stand up.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
I don't know. My friend markin Master my Masters run
shows all over Colorado and seems to do well. He
actually came to the show Dever, shout out the Mark
came to do the show and Denver he did. He
opened and stuff and he did good. And but it
was just just again even that was kind of a
weird crowd. And we had technical difficulties. We have these
black magic cameras that we use and it doesn't give

(18:04):
you any kind of information like hey, you need to
update the firmware or it won't work properly. And they
started shutting down in the middle of show. So I like,
in the middle of the show, I'm on my laptop
trying to get the updates, trying to plug it into
the camera, trying to get it set like doing this
while Zane's on stage. He could see me, like, because
you know, my I'm illuminated by the laptop. He could
see me in the back and he's like, uh like,

(18:26):
he's just like one of those things. Was like, oh man,
everything is not going well how we wanted to go.
It was just a very weird situation. And again to
the people of Colorado'll thank you those who did come out.
It's just I don't know what happened.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Also, we did a show in Wyoming, Cheyenne, Wyoming. We
saw Buffalo which was awesome and downtown Wyoming and it
not in down Wyo. But the show was in downtown Wyoming. Yeah, Cheyenne, Wyoming,
and uh, it was interesting. It was just like okay, great,
a different kind of place, different kind of vine. We
still got laughs. So that's the other good thing about
being on the road is I know that my stuff

(19:00):
works everywhere. Right, no matter what state I'm in, it
still works. There's not even if the crowd is liked
or the or the crowd is But actually two of
the shows that we did that have lighter crowds, I
had more fun at for some reason. Oh, I don't
know if it was like you know what, you guys
came out. I want to give you the best show possible,
or if it was just like I don't care what

(19:23):
happens right now, you know, I don't know. I don't
know which one it was. I don't know in that moment,
if it was like I don't care, like whatever, you're here,
I'm here. I guess we have to do this, but
I don't care. I don't really care, you know. Yeah,
I don't know if you have that experience where you
get on stage, like you you come into it and
you're like excited, but then you get there and you're like,
you know what, I don't care anymore, I don't really
want to.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, I've definitely had that experience.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
I've also had the experience of like I hate being here,
but yet I have to get on stage.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, And I.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Don't know.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
I guess how can I put this like I hate
I imagine that an audience picks up on that, but I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
To what extent, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (20:08):
And so that's it's that that is the other piece
where stand up is work, where it's like you got
to just put on the clown face and do the
thing that you do love to do, and every other circumstance.
But something else went wrong that day, and now you're
kind of out of it.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
You know. The craziest thing was our last show was
in Denver, Okay. And so but during the day, Zay
want to take a road trip. So we left to
like twelve o'clock. We left at noon. We had to
be we needed to be at the venue. Show starts
at eight o'clock. Something we vip starts to seven. But
we should try to be at the venue of every
venue at by five o'clock, just so we have time
to set up it. South. We drive all the way

(20:44):
so you know where Devers. We drive all the way
to the Rocky Mountain National Forest or whatever. We drive
all away their pass Bowld or whatever beautiful place. We
see all kinds of animals, a great time. They give
me a free veteran pass because for being a veteran,
so I can get to any national park now. So
that was great. We want we walk along the waterfalls.
We take off our shoes and walk through the river
and whatever, and so it's fun. It was great. But

(21:05):
I looked down at our at my watch and I go, oh,
I think we need to go. It's like three thirty ish,
and I know it's take us an hour and a
half to get back to where we need to be
and we still haven't eaten yet. Yeah, and we have
to get gas, so we don't get to the venue
tell till a little after six, Like.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
All right, six terrible, not terrible, but we.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Have to set up lights now it's tight Mike, audio,
video stage, the chairs in the room, everything. We do
all this stuff in like fifty five minutes, and guess what,
we get it all done in open doors at seven
oh two. We're like two minutes after. I was like,
but I'm sweating. I'm like drenched in sweat. Of course

(21:48):
I didn't get to go get any other clothes, so now.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
We're was like, ugh, it was now you've got us
flip the switch right from like grip tech custodian to host.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
To host tow comedian, I mean ohnese. It was great though,
because that's the one the fun thing about this show's
with Zain is the VIP section before we get to
play games. So I get to settle, right. It gives
me a minute to settle because it's not it's not
on me. I'm not doing anything except for turning on
music or bringing tops to flip cup or table. But
I'm not I don't have to like interact, I don't

(22:22):
really have to do anything at that point. Yeah, I'm
still kind of getting things ready in the background, but
I'm settled. And then by the time that's done, which
is like seven forty and I have to go on
stage at eight, I get that that time to go
like minute to just kind of like oh right, right
here we go. Let's get ready, you know, and hopefully
everything is done by this. The only time it sucks

(22:44):
is we're still selling merch between yeah, time VIPs shuts
like ends and the time that the show starts. So
if I'm selling merch and it's like seven fifty five,
now I'm in that mind and I have to like, okay,
now I got to reset myself to get on stage.
That's the only back every now and then. But it's
like this doesn't happen as often as it as you
would think, you know.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
Or that yeah, well, and even then, I've I've found,
at least for me on stage, being honest about a
lot of.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
That is xtually works.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
Yeah, being like all right, hey guys, remember me, I'm
the one who set up the chairs, sweating like a
pig and then sold your stuff and now I'm here,
so you know, give me second. We're gonna get into this.
We're gonna have fun. But I don't know, man, Yeah,
it's it's tough. Did you try the local, you know,
to ingratiate yourself with the local.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Because I think I think the one time I tried something,
it didn't really go how I wanted. I was like,
all right, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do that anymore.
I'm just gonna do my do my thing because I
don't know why I picked like what I pick. I
forgot what it even was. It was something so stupid where.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
You didn't talk about being late to the show because
you were caught up in the natural beauty of the place.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Knows because they ain't talked about it earlier, like you're
the VIP. So I'm not gonna got it. I'm not
gonna go back to that soutleh.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah gotcha.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Okay, if he's doing it, I'm not gonna talk about
it and I'm not gonna walk all over it. But
you know, it was it was crazy. Uh do you
remember have you seen the movie Dumb and Dumber?

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Do you remember, Like they're driving, like they get he
gets lost in the middle of the night. They end
up somewhere else, but then he's like that John Dever
is a lot. Yeah, and so I we're driving through there,
and I thought the exact thing. I was like, Oh,
it's gonna be full of mountains, dude, Like what's going
on John Devers whole crab? Like how dare you? John Dever?

Speaker 3 (24:30):
You got to get to the right part of Colorado.
And with Dumb and Dumber, they're driving the opposite.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah they do. They drive like Iowa or something weird.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Like, yeah, so they are not you know, yeah anyhow.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Yeah. Also on the way to the Rocky Mountain National
Forest is the hotel where they filmed the scenes from
Dumb and Dumber.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Oh when they do finally make it.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yes, yeah, where they're in the they're in the hotel there.
It's the one with the bars.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Like Aurora or whatever, Aurora, Colorado over there.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
I think it's called well, I think they end up in,
don't They end up in what's the fancier place?

Speaker 2 (25:05):
I don't remember. I know it's some ski town.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yeah, it's not Veil or whatever. It's one of those,
like fancier ones, but this one is an Estes Park
area of Colorado, which is outside Boulder and stuff, and
so it's also the same place where Stephen King had
the idea to write The Shining. Ah, so it's this
cool hotel. We didn't get to stop and take pictures
like I wanted to, cause again we're running late.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
But yeah, yeah, there you.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Go, there you go, and yeah, and it was great.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
That's fun.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
So The Shining we drove by it and I was like, hey,
I know this place. Yeah, stage no, I did.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Again, you guys are home to a place that made
a man want to write a book about another man
who wants.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
To kill himself. Yeah, exactly crazy and kills his family.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah, I guess it's based I guess it's based on
three hotels. Like, there are a few hotels. One the
one that he wrote it in tow was another one
in a different part of Colorado or something where where
like the mountain thing is, and then another one is
where like the inside of the hotel is is like uh,
Canada or something I think or whatever.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
So yeah, oh fascinating.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yeah, I mean there are a lot of these kind
of isolated ski towns or just mountain towns that it's like,
and every time my wife and I drive through a
place that's remote, but then you see homes or barns,
We're always asking each other.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
What do you think they do?

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Thank you? Thank you?

Speaker 2 (26:31):
What do they do for work? For money? How do
you live out here?

Speaker 1 (26:35):
What's going on? Yeah? Exactly right. There's parks where you
just drive through and you're like, how are they surviving?
How do they survive?

Speaker 2 (26:42):
What?

Speaker 1 (26:42):
What is it? What are they doing?

Speaker 3 (26:44):
I'm convinced that Baker just lives off the fact that
it's the only thing out there, and everyone works at
the fast food places and the mechanics shops out there,
the gas stations, and that's the whole community.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
That's the town.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah, yeah, no, I don't know what else there is.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
You do?

Speaker 3 (27:01):
I guess the grocery stores that are there, but it's
I don't.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
But then, but here's the thing, so then that money
just keeps circulating back you work at the grocery store,
then you got to go buy groceries for the money
they got. It's like, this doesn't make any sense to me,
Like the logic behind it is is weird, Like it's wild.
I feel like I guessing something I don't.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Know enough about economics or agriculture and be like, Okay,
that's what they do here.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah, yeah, But I mean I did see a lot
of like farms and cattle farms whatever stuff.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
But of course, yeah, of course that's a that's a
minority of who's there. Yes, it might be a majority
of the land, but it's a minority of the homes
that you see.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Right exactly. Yeah, there were some nice homes and stuff
like whatever. That's the other piece is anywhere where are you?
Where are you off? Two? Next? What are you up to?
Because I don't want to hold you up. I know
you have places to go and people to speak.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Oh hey, you're good, You're good.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Uh. Well, I might be speaking of Josh Edelman, might
be going on tour with him in the Auto June.
And if not that, Jamie Bliss, Jolie Bragg and I
are trying to get something together for next for fall
nice of this year. Do like, uh, we're debating between
going up the coast of California or going out Arizona, Nevada, Utah,

(28:09):
that kind of small circuit and then coming back.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
If I may make a recommendation sure, get out of California.
Go to those places outside of California and do those
because they're not as saturated and you can get that
if I if I'm saying that's just you. Anybody who
is like an LA comedian or whatever, go to Nevada,
go to Arizona, go to Utah, go to Colorado, go

(28:32):
to all the other places. Go to the Midwest. You
will not have as much competition and you will be
the only game. Pick the small towns. Don't go to
the cities. Pick the small to make it your thing.
So like makes his breweries, make yours, diners make yours, drive.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
In dollars, small theaters or something.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
We'll find something, yeah, community theaters or twanas or v
vfw's or something like whatever it is, and just do
that because honestly, the competition in LA and even the
surrounding area, so like even going as far up Santa Barbara,
that's there's there's comedy stuff there, like you're gonna run

(29:12):
into it. So if you get out of this this
kind of one hundred mile radius of LA, you can
do something. You might go if you went center California,
like Bakersfield, upset the like yeah, four or five five whatever,
that might be better. But if you want but if you're
going up the coast, even with Joey's name, who's well known,
I don't think you'll have as much success as you

(29:34):
guys will want to have.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
We might not, and you know, so that's what we're debating.
We'll see kind of which direction we go.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
And then I realized in speaking about going up the
coast of California, the other big show, but I wasn't
in a suit for it was.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
At a winery.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
I was up in Sonoma headlining a winery show and
that was early April.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
How did that go?

Speaker 3 (29:55):
And that went great? Oh my gosh, that was so fun. Yeah,
that was amazing.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
See, and I think that's great that you guys would
all go together like you have a dry bar. Joey's
known for Disney. Jamie I don't know enough about to know.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Yeah, Jamie is. Jamie is great.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
She hasn't quite broken any sort of mass distribution thing yet,
but she deserves one.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
She's very fun. She's also just the most organized of
the three of us.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
Really wants to get out of LA to do stand
up for a good amount of time.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
So well, if you guys ever want to jump like
on a call or whatever, like all of us, and
I can give you all the advice that I've learned
from Zay to help you do it. I'm one thousand
percent into doing that, just so you know, all right, Hey,
I love that yus I you know, I love Joey.
Joey's like one of my favorites. So any I'll do it.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Joey is fantastic.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Yeah, I'll let them know and we may take you
up on that. But to think of small theater kind
of thing, I've talked to Josh Edelman about this too,
because that was his route, small theaters in kind of
smaller towns.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Uh. You know.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
The one thing to consider is, I guess for anybody
out there thinking about the show, this is the debate
that we're having, which is in comedy ready places, there
is a lot of competition, but there is also a
lot of infrastructure and kind of community buy in where
they're used to it.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
They know what to expect.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
And the trade off though, is going to a spot
that is less accustomed to having stand up. It might
be novel and they might come out, but there's a
little more work to do on the front end.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
And then when you're there to prep them in the
actual show for what they're going to see.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
Now, how much like cost benefit is either of those things,
it's anybody's guess.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
But that's the debate that we've been having about where
is it better to go?

Speaker 3 (31:45):
You know, because you go to a club, you don't
have to bring as much equipment. You can set up
using their stuff, and it's great if you go to
a brewery or small theater other things like that. There's
a lot of variables about Mike Cord. What are we
going to do? So there's the logistical cost benefit as
well that we've been trying to debate and figure out
what's going to be best for for what we want

(32:06):
to do. So anyhow, all that to say, most of
us in LA also have purchased the things, especially if
we were doing it during COVID YEP. I know so
many comics now who have portable stages, portable micropho, you know,
amps like they can put on a show.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Anywhere yep, yep, and doesn't have electricity. They're ready to
go yep.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
I always say that, I say, the best thing you
can invest in for as a comedian is investing in
yourself and buying all that gear and just having it
ready to go, because then you could go do anything.
You'll do that private gig that you get at last minute,
you could get you know. You hear somebody saying, oh,
I'd love to have a comedian you know, do you know?
Do you know anybody? Or do you ever do shows?
You're like, Hey, I have all the gear. I could
go totally that show.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
You know. I'm saying yes, yeah, right exactly I do, and.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yes, yeah exactly right.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah, So yeah, COVID changed a lot of that for people.
I think for the better, better to be honest.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
And then I have a show again at Gora Hill's
at Canyon Club. I've performed at the Candy Club before,
so that's not new. It will be new to do
this show. I'm very excited for it. I almost did
another show by the same producer called Comedy Ko, where
comedians would go and you do a set and then
you sit in the in the chair if you know,

(33:23):
after you're set, and then if the next community comes up,
if the crowd likes them better, you leave the chair.
They take the chair, and the last one in the chair.
When's the when's the show? Which is kind of a
weird thing because if you're the first person, yeah, your
odds are almost you're not gonna make it. You know
what I'm saying, You could be the best one. Interesting,
I think, I think with just yeah, you want to

(33:45):
be the last two?

Speaker 3 (33:48):
I don't know, man, I think it's just that is
a fascinating question because I think about lineups that I
set up. Yeah, and I don't want to offend anybody,
but but I will generally put I mean, I guess
here's the way I would put it. I do my
lineups the same way I do my set. That is

(34:09):
one of my stronger comics is actually going to go
up right after the host.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
Yeah, And generally I try to find a good, good comic,
like who's a good host, because that is almost imperative
to a good show. You can have a good show
without a great host, but it's very difficult. You have
to really have good comics then and a host that
knows to be quiet in between. Yes, So, I don't know,

(34:35):
it would be interesting to see how often that first
person would be able to last, how long they last,
because granted you have anyway strong comic up top and
a strong comic at the end.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Just like ius, your strongest joke should be in the
front your second story, or vice versa. Your two strongest
jokes should should be the bookends of your of your set.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yes, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
So I would be interested to see this statistics on
that kind of a show.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
How long does the first comic last on average?

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Are they outdone by the last comic or which comic
overtakes them? That would be interesting. And then there's the
audience kind of being used to and prepared for that
kind of a show. Yeah, and maybe they get more
used to it as the night goes on, and therefore
the last three or four have a better odd of
making it. But you know, if you're a likable, lovable

(35:27):
guy like you are at the top, that's you.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Set the bar high enough. Maybe no one beats it.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
And then maybe you're the friend you know, you're one
of them. Yeah, yeah, that'd be I mean, that'd be ideal,
it'd be great.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Anyway, Well, fun, I hope you have fun on that show.
That sounds like a fun.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Well I'm not doing that one now. I'm just the
producer that produced that also produces another show.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
That was the last time you did it?

Speaker 1 (35:50):
No, no, no, I wish. I wish that was so that.
Like the show that I'm doing is called Funny Hour.
The headliners Daniel Ichis, who I don't know. Yeah, I
don't know. I don't know any of the comedians on
this show, so I'm very excited for that as well.
With the list who's on there, Daniel Ichis, Andrea Abate,

(36:11):
Johnny Cortez, and then Mirev I think is her name.
She's the host and the producer of the show.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Yeah. I don't know any of those people.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Yeah, so she is. Yeah, I don't know. I don't
know any of them. But I'm very excited because I'll
get to come and do that show in Agora Hills,
five minutes in my house. I'll go down there doors
at six thirty, show at eight. I'll So if you're
in town and you hear this, you're in around LA,
you want to come see me perform where I'm not
in these other crazy places all across the country, come out.

(36:41):
I don't even know how much tickets are. I don't
think they're Oh and all you can eat taco bar apparently.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Oh so so that sounds I mean, it's worth it
for the tacos.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
I think, so I don't even know. I actually don't
know how I actually don't know how much tickets are.
That's a good question. Now now I feel like, let's see,
let's see, let's just find out how much tickets are.
Tickets are? Oh, man, I would have loved to be
on the next one. It's got my boy Tom Clark
is headlining soon on the thirteenth, so the following week.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
I don't even know Tom Clark.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Oh you don't. Oh Tom is amazing, He's a great guy.
Tickets are it doesn't even say how much tickets are.
Get tickets. It doesn't wow how much you have to
go through to get tickets here, this and that. That
might be a problem, but yeah, Tom Clark, who I love,
and his wife Steph Clark is awesome. One ticket tickets
are twenty dollars and sixty one cents with fees and stuff,

(37:35):
so it's basically fifteen dollars plus fees. Wow, that's crazy.
That's a lot of fees. I'm such a complainter.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Oh my gosh, that's fun.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
So so yeah, so looking forward to it again. The
social media thing, I am building up clips every day.
I'm learning Adobe Premiere Pro, where I've been using Final
Cut Pro for forever. Ain't has been teaching me and
get He records what he does, makes a video for me,
sends it to me and like this is what you do,
follow step by step. And even though he can do

(38:08):
it in like ten minutes, I am still doing my
first clip, which has been three hours of work. So
I have not gosh yeah, so and it's because because
we have multiple camera angles, we're dialing in the audio,
make sure that all this stuff. So it's a lot
of work. He could just goes. He goes co co CoA.
He just goes, and then he makes it clip and
then puts it out. And yes, it might take him

(38:29):
an hour or two to do everything perfect to get
to the end, but for me, it's probably gonna take
twelve hours for the same clip that takes him one
one or two hours. And then hopefully it'll slowly read
it first yeah, and then slowly reduced down to being
better and better and better. And the cool thing is
I have. I think I've done sixty shows a show
with him, and I will be able to you know,

(38:51):
get get better at it and stuff. So yeah, I
have was the one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty,
twenty one, twenty two, twenty three, twenty four, twenty five,
twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty nine, thirty thirty one,

(39:13):
thirty two or three to four or five, six, three, seven,
thirty eight, thirty nine, forty forty one, forty two, forty three,
forty four, forty five, forty six, forty seven, forty eight,
forty nine, fifty fifty one, fifty two, fifty three, fifty four,
fifty five uh cities and that and I know some
of those were double shows, So fifty five cities, probably

(39:33):
fifty seven shows. Yeah, since since since January eleventh of
this year, that's how much I that's how many shows
I've double.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Same want, I want everybody to go back in their
podcast now about ten twenty seconds and see if JD
skipped any numbers?

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Just did I skip any Do you think I skipped? Okay,
that'd be hilarious.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Not at all.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
You know, put JD to the tech, can he out in.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Order to the answer is not really no, Yeah, you can.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
You did it great? You can wait at fifty five.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
It's amazing, I know how better than some kindergarteners. Absolutely
all right, Well, anything that I that you have going
on that we want to promote before this before out
of know where you get back together again hopefully soon.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
I know, man, we're both coming up on the witching hour,
the busy times.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Let's see. I mean, go find my podcast self Help Yourself.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Are you back at a little It's taken a.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
Little hiatus, but I am going to be back at
it very soon, which I'm excited about.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
So we'll be releasing new episodes I think in the
coming weeks and now. On that you can find me
at all the socials. On all the Socials, even though
I hate them, Seth T.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
Lawrence, go to my website Seth Lawrencecomedy dot com for
show updates and things like that.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
On that, you know, find JD wherever it is he's.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
Going to be.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
Yeah, find me. And then also go check out cleek
Comedian pro Tips on sub It'll be I'll they'll be
linking here right now. Total subscriber to sixty six people. There.
I put up a new thing every day. The last
one I just did was the number one mistake, New
Clean comedians make, and that mistake, I'll just I'll give
you the spoiler alert. It's trying to be clever instead

(41:16):
of being funny. Here's trying to be a clever guy.
You're trying to like, oh, like I'm so much smarter
than the crowd. That thing does not work. I'm sorry
to tell you guys that. So but yeah, I didn't
spoil for you. Go read it because it gives you
a lot of tips, because a lot of times we'll
be like, oh, this is such a smart joke, but
it's not really a joke. It's a it's an observation
that you think is clever and it's not actually funny,

(41:38):
and then you put it out there. You know, just
if you ever if you ever start in your mind
thinking about like, oh, what's what's the deal with If
you ever start with that thought process, don't do that joke.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Right, Jerry Seinfeld's already done it.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
He's done it, and he's done it way better than
you will ever do it. So just know I do
that sometimes where I'll be like, what's the deal with ever?
Playing food? You know, and it seems like just just
be quiet, don't do that. He's like, don't do it,
Terry Terry Sidefeld depression. Get out of here with that.
So all right, Well, thank you guys so much for

(42:11):
tuning in again. Go check out Cleen Comedie of pro Tips.
Go check out Seth. Go to jad at Jadie Creveston
on Instagram. I'll be putting up more clips on there.
Go check out Zane stuff. Zane is now also on Reddit.
I talked him into being on Reddit, so he's putting
up clips in the stand up Subreddit. It seems to
be doing well for him. I'm gonna be starting a
TikTok soon as soon as I get these clips ready.
I'm gonna be doing TikTok. I know it's you gotta

(42:33):
do everything you gotta do.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Unfortunately, I know we'll see if TikTok gets banned.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
I hope not. And then just so you know, uh,
there every week and I have them scheduled all the
way up to mid June or July. Right now for
the for the Queen Comedy pro tips. Every week there's
a good one and they all have great names. I'll
give you a couple of the names of the scheduled
ones that are coming up. My wife gave me this
joke for free. That was a great one. Bombing is
a superpower if you do this. Why dirty comedians secretly

(43:00):
respect clean ones? Three clean topics that always kill and
you could say, you can see them there for you
to use. And so there you go. Yeah, all the
way up to July. I'm finishing some more this week.
I have eleven in my drafts folder. That's how much
I've been writing. So that's the thing is, I've been
working on this and not on school. So there you go.
There you guys, You guys are welcome that I'm throwing
away money from law school and writing your stuff instead.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
Oh boy, all right, beautiful jad I'm excited to see those.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Great Thank you everybody for listening. Have a good one.
I'm gonna talk to you soon.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Bye bye,
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