June 17, 2025 • 39 mins
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Welcome to Episode 439 of The Clean Comedy Podcast! This week we welcome back the very talented Brian Kohatsu. Brian spent 20 years as an award-winning director before stepping away from the camera for a career in comedy. He quickly found success in radio and gained national recognition when he was featured on Sirius/XM.
Brian trained with several improv troupes, before transitioning to stand up. He now performs at various comedy clubs, casinos, churches and corporate events around the country.
His new comedy special WHAM!! is dropping TONIGHT on his YouTube channel.
Check them out at https://www.briankohatsu.com/ or at https://www.youtube.com/@comedianbriankohatsu
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Feel free to email me: jamesdcreviston at GMAIL.COM
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Welcome to Episode 439 of The Clean Comedy Podcast! This week we welcome back the very talented Brian Kohatsu. Brian spent 20 years as an award-winning director before stepping away from the camera for a career in comedy. He quickly found success in radio and gained national recognition when he was featured on Sirius/XM.
Brian trained with several improv troupes, before transitioning to stand up. He now performs at various comedy clubs, casinos, churches and corporate events around the country.
His new comedy special WHAM!! is dropping TONIGHT on his YouTube channel.
Check them out at https://www.briankohatsu.com/ or at https://www.youtube.com/@comedianbriankohatsu
Come see Zane and I! You can see all the tour dates at ZaneLamprey.com
Feel free to email me: jamesdcreviston at GMAIL.COM
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-clean-comedy-podcast-w-jd-creviston--4825680/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:21):
get some green. Hey, everybody, welcome to the Clean Comedy Podcast.
Is Jad and I'm back with a great friend of mine.
If you go back to the beginning of this podcast,
probably like two years in, I had this guy on.
He's awesome. He's from Arizona. He's a filmmaker, he's a comedian.
I think he does probably more than anybody, even more
than me and I do a lot, but he's awesome.
(00:44):
So we had him on and we talked about his
first special, secret Asian Man, and now he has a
second special coming out, so we're here to talk about that.
Please welcome the very funny, the very talented Brian Katsu. Brian,
welcome back.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Thank you, James. He made me sound like a piece
of history.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Well, I didn't mean know like that. It's been like
you do a.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Lot, man, Okay, we do go back. It has been
a while. I think it was pandemic.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Too pandemic yet, Well it's it's been a while, yeah,
too too long, I think.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah, no, it's been a while for sure. So no,
thanks for having me on the show. Yes, I'm here
to just pitch, pitch, pitch, dude.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I wonder if there should be an episode where just
people just come pitch ideas for jokes or whatever. I
don't know. That sounds kind of fun.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Who knows?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
That is kind of interesting? And the whole massive cats,
that whole they can all work on. One thing begins.
That's not a bad idea.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
That's actually not a bad idea. Jeez, Brian, Brian just
started up it. It's his idea, so he started, so
another thing he does.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
It's our idea, it's your show. It's it's our idea
at this point.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Well, so you got to do Spocial coming out on
the seventeenth right of.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
June, Yes, which happens to be my birthday.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
So I'm guilty people into watching my special if that works. Hmmm,
because I got it done and I was window release
that I thought, we're so close. This way I get
at least promoted a little bit more and then get
it out there. So that's that. Yeah, June seventeenth is
my birthday. So yes, I'm guilty everybody. I'm doing YouTube premiere.
(02:12):
Probably I think this may may be airing on that day.
So seven o'clock tonight, Arizona time, which is uh, I
don't know. It was a mountain or Pacific.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I don't know. We don't change times, so I never
know what zone we're in.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
What time is it there currently?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Currently it is ten am. It's the same as you.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I believe it's so Pacific, So Pacific time, so specific time.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Okay, So at seven o'clock on YouTube at comedian Bran
Kahatsu's where you can find me there. And but that'll
be the premiere online on YouTube. So I'll do the
live chat while we all watch it together and then
and then just open the door for all the haters.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, what's the name of this special? Call Brian?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
This special is? This special is called Brian Kahatsu Way.
And I say it that way because I don't want
a lawsuit. Uh So it's Brian Kahatsu Wham. It's not wham,
it's Branka Hatsu whim and it is with two exclamation
points to uh to separate it from the actual band wham.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
So that's how that works, just covering all the legals.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
That's smart. That's smart.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah, so that's how that works.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
And why why wham? What was it? Was it a
throwback to the eighties? Are you like, are you kicking
it back then?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Or is it there's a joke that years ago talking
about history.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Years ago when I have a radio show, there was
a news story about Andrew Ridgeley and I riffed a
joke which was you know it was It was funny.
We all laughed and then we moved on with the
rest of our lives. When I started doing stand up,
it was one of those things where trying to find
it stuff and that was one joke that I thought, gosh,
I think I could bring that back, and I did.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
So.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
It's been one of my main stage jokes for a
long time that everybody seems to really like it, hasn't
Has it aged well.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
To some degree?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yes, to some degree, No, it just depends on my generation,
for sure gets it. They love that joke. So yeah,
so that was like one of my first big hit
kind of jokes. So I thought, well, let's kind of
just throw it, throw it some love. So that's kind
of and and Wyam's nice and easy. It's a one
syllable kind of sounds like you know, you know, and
the older you get, That's why I keep saying this,
(04:21):
the older you get, then wham, life hits you.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
So it doesn't get any easier. So that's good. That's
where it comes from.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
So it's based on one joke that happens to deal
with with the actual group.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
William, but it's not because it has two explorations.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I love this is so much like legally is like
stay safe in this. It's hilarious with this special where'd
you film it at? How long do you tell us
the process? And like building up to that and stuff
as well.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
So for those that don't know, James kind of knows.
We've talked about.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah. I do a lot of different things.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
So I started off my career. I own a video
production company. I've done corporate video my basically entire life
prior to becoming a comedian. So flash forward now, I
got asked to do a charity event in South Carolina
for my friend Chris Roup. So I went out there
and did the event. And being a video guy myself,
people always say to me, you know we're recording tonight,
(05:16):
we'll send you the footage, which is you and I
both know that's a lie.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
You never get it, and if you do, it's terrible, right,
It's terrible.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Always, it's the worst.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
It's it's it's audio with no audience, so it looks
like you're bombing the whole time, you know, So it's
the worst. So he said, I'll send it to you.
I said, great, fantastic. Now this is it's shot in
a church. There's four cameras. I thought, okay, maybe maybe
we got something here. So it took about three months
and he finally sent me. But he sent me the
live switch that they did. And to be honest, you know,
(05:45):
these guys are enjoying the show, they're not really live
switching because it wasn't in the room. I think they
streamed it to a couple of people. But anyways, the
switch was okay, and at one point I think they
kind of just let it go because it was like
side camera on and oh we better mix it up camera.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
So but it was.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Good enough, and I thought I could sell it. But
the audio is amazing, so I'm like, this is pretty good.
So I put that all together, color corrected everything, got
it all set.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
And redid everything.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
I was about to put it out and put out
a little tiny clip and my buddy who brought me out, Chris, says,
I have the raw footage.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Did you want the raw footage? And I said, yeah,
I want the raw footage.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
So that took another like six to seven months to
get that.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So now finally got that.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
By the time I got the footage and everything else
and got it all done in terms of just downloading
everything and getting it ready to go, then I got
just slammed with I had gigs and work and just
everything was.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Hitting at the same time.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
So I was piecemealing trying to get this thing together
over time, and then finally this year I was just like,
just hunker down and finish it because it's just going
to keep going.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I'm my hair's way shorter.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I think I'm probably twenty pounds heavier in the special,
but I don't care.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I mean whatever.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Yeah, So very happy with the way it did finally
come out, but it was it was a long.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Labor of Love. But yeah, four cameras.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
They had a moving track and Dolly camera in the
back for the master shot, so everything's there. It looks
and feels like a good special. But the audio is
the main thing. The laughter portion is just so well
miked that it's I mean, there's a theory not a theory,
but I heard Dana Carvey talking about how they miked
(07:26):
his special, and it's similar to that which you put
multiple mics out so you can hear individual laughter amongst
the crowd. So it's not just this blanket large laugh.
You can actually hear individuals laughing.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
So so the audio is great.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Actually the audio currently is on Spotify. But I'm a
physical comic. That's why I think an audio version is
really funny because you don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Half the time, You're like, what is the joke?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
So so I think it's great that if you happen
to hear the audio, you'll definitely go, I want to
see what's happening, so you'll hopefully switch on over to
the video on YouTube. So that's where it came from.
That's kind of the genesis behind it.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
That's pretty awesome because it wasn't something that you planned
to do, Like you weren't like, oh I'm gonna record
this day, I need this many people, I'm gonna do
all these things. It wasn't that. It was just like,
this show went great. It was beautiful. I know I
could do something with it, and now I'm going to
turn it into a special. And I keep thinking about that.
You might have inspired you because I am on tour
Zane Lamprey. We're everywhere. We shoot almost every night. Two cameras,
(08:31):
four K blackmagic cameras, like they're just beautiful stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
And your stuff You've been putting on a lot more stuff.
It looks great, it really, yeah, looks great funny too, so.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Oh wow, thank you.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
One of them is one of my favorite shows that
we did. And there's no like real different clips from it,
but it just was felt like one of the best
shows I've ever done. And I have the whole video
and I'm thinking a fifteen minute special, I mean, is
that something worth putting out or is it not? I
don't know, And I see people putting out way worse
and waste. I'm like, oh, I have a ten minute special,
(09:04):
like ten minutes like special.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
It's set my theory on this is, and you're hitting
on it, is that the you know, we all watch Netflix,
Andrew Schultz, whatever you're gonna do an hour, ninety minutes.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Or whatever.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
For for the rest of us. I don't think you know,
thirty minutes special every so often isn't bad. As long
as you're good polish stuff and it looks good, you
might as well. To be honest, I mean, I I
am not. I don't clip out anything that I do
because I just haven't.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I just have so.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Many hats that I wear that when this came along,
I did the special. Now I'm starting to clip it out,
which is a whole different world.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I'm learning oh so hard.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
And I notice you've been putting out more too, So
it's like, yeah, it's a different beast because you got
to schedule this that how many clips do I need?
And you need so much to keep putting out.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
So that's that.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
But if you do a half hour special every so often,
it does give you a ton of stuff that you
can clip out and you can put out there it
looks nice. You've got your clips, and then now you've
got your full special too. So I think shorter is
better long term going down the road, I think you're
going to see more of that, to be honest.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
And then the bigger guys, they're bergazi's in the world.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
You know, every once in a while they're going to
put out their hour to hour and a half's whatever
they want to do. So yeah, I'm I'm one hundred
percent behind you on that.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Well, what's cool is I don't know if you know
Josh Johnson's he was like he's on the Daily Show
and he does whatever, but he'll be releasing a like
a I think it was like a half hour every
Tuesday on his YouTube for like a year, like the
last year, and I'm like, oh my gosh, this guy's amazing.
And some of them are so good that where they're
up for like Emmy nominations, Like that's how good.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Really?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah? Yeah, So you know, I was a lot of
material every week, a lot of it's here, and it's
always new stuff. It's always whatever he's talking about. It
could be political, it could be personal, it could be
I mean it's crazy. And yeah, tons of respect to
him for that. I Mean he's one of those people
I'm just like, wow, you are You're doing it like
you're doing the thing that everybody's like, oh, you know,
(11:06):
the common guide was, you know, one hour long special
every two years. That was good to go, and then
some people were doing them every year and then they
got kind of got burned out, you can see, and
he goes back to two years. But he's doing half
an hour every week. I'm like, man, he's going to
be I'm surprised he's not more famous. He's going to
be super famous one day. But he's amazing.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
There is something to exercising that muscle, though, it's like
we are you know, stage time, stage time, stage time.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
It's the same thing with that.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
If he's used to doing it, you kind of get
into not that a rhythm is a lazy thing, but
getting into a rhythm of saying, Okay, this is how,
this is what I need to talk about, this is
what's been working, how to go about writing these or
how to present them at least to make them interesting
to everybody, and then you know, like.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I said, you kind of get used to doing that.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
It's the same thing like with for you for podcasting too,
those first few episodes, I'm sure we're like, let's figure
it out, and then now you're on your way. The
same thing with stand up the more you do it,
you know, you go through those like you said, you're
on tour right.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Now, you get those multiple dates.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
By the time, you know, you're so not overly confident,
but you're just confident, like, Okay, I can go out
there and I can present and do a great job
and andyone's gonna have a good time, versus that hit
and miss mentality of stand up sometimes where you're like, oh,
I need another gig, you know, and it may not
be the best gig, but then you're down on yourself
because it's not a great audience, it's not a good venue,
and you're out of practice.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, well it's gonna be crazy because I have this
long run. We have like a ten day run coming
up in Ohio and Indiana that we're gonna do, and
then after that we come back and I go immediately
on vacation to San Francisco for a week, and then
the Greg came in for like ten days and then
come back and we don't go back out until the
beginning of August. So all of my July is just
(12:46):
me not really doing stand up. I mean, I think
I might have like one show in between there that
somebody booked me for, but it's not the same thing.
And it's like, all right, I know that that first
show back getting back on the road is gonna be rough.
It's gonna be a hard show because you know, I'll
leave this run on a high note going yeah, this
(13:07):
is great. You know, I kill it right right, but
I'll go back and it'll be a little bit of
ring rust on there and you gotta kind of break
it off and get back in there. And I noticed
the longer we're home that first the first show is
always a doozy. It's always the one where you're like,
oh man, that could have gone so much better. But
as Zane and I do the same thing, we both
(13:27):
say like, oh man, what happened. I'm like, I don't
know if we should be doing more stuff at home,
Like we should probably be trying to get to one
show each warm up show, yeah, while we're home, to
kind of keep in the groove, even if it's just
one show during those ten days or whatever, and then
go back out.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
I don't know, to be honest, even if it's like,
even if it's a ten minute set somewhere anywhere, just
to get back up on stage, and do it. My
buddy eric O'Shea, you know, he does the colleges and
everything else, and that's his big thing. I need something anywhere,
ten minutes, fifteen whatever, you you know, anywhere, and he
starts just in that to get warmed up before he
goes out on the road, just to get back on
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stage somewhere.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I tend to be a little different though.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
For some reason, I get if I'm off for a
long time, I get hyper focused. Though by the time
I get back on stage, and I really, for some reason,
I don't miss I don't miss anything. Not to say one,
I resent perfect and there is that rust factor, of course,
but I am hyper focused in the moment for some reason,
just to like okay, And then I always surprise myself
(14:28):
like you didn't miss anything. You got everything you set
out to do in your set. You know, it's not
like you know, you're like, I haven't been doing this
in a month, Like what was that? I forgot that
one whole bit about something. But yeah, yeah, I tend
to get really hot. Actually, the special was one where
I hadn't performed and I think at least three weeks,
so there's a little there's a little rust on there
in a couple areas. But like I said, I really
(14:49):
don't care at this stage in my career. Like I said,
I got good video, good sound out of it, So
I got something out of it.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
So is it perfect? Of course not, and no special
will we over be perfect for anybody? Yeah, it can't be.
I mean, it just can't be.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Well, that's the thing is, like we listened. We listen
to the specials when we drive sometimes like because we'll
have like two hour drives from you know, whatever the
venue is back to the hotel or whatever. Yeah, or
sometimes longer we've had someone where we had like three
or four hour drives and uh, we'll listen to specials
and we'll both go, oh man, this would have been
a much better punchline for that or this would have
been and you know that that comedian listened to the
(15:25):
special was like, oh my gosh, why did I not
say this instead? Why was that? Why was why did
I word that set up that way? You know, all
those little things and coming from and we're cetting right
off stage, so we're hyper aware of stand up and
what you're saying. That when we listen to those, it's
so much better. And then sometimes we'll posit and we'll
start writing jokes in the car because we're so inspired
by whatever. Yeah, that's pretty sure, pretty pretty awesome. Stand
(15:49):
up does something to you. It does. It does focus
you in a way that that other things don't. I
think the only other thing I could think of that
I ever felt as focused as like at was presuming
you jitsu. And it's because you have to be aware
in the moment of what's going on, but also remember
what you're supposed to do in those moments.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah. Yeah, well that's a difference between life and death.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah, well, I mean, hi note, but not really, I
mean metaphorically, Yeah, metaphor, I mean, but they're both. But
when you when you're bombing on stage, it feels like dying.
You feel like you're dying. It's fight or flight, it
really is.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
At that point, you're either like, I gotta get off
the stage or all right, let's hunker and let's find
the one punchline that's gonna it's a punch. Speaking of which,
that's a perfect segue. At the beginning of my special,
there is a sketch. So I went old school. Okay,
So think HBO comedy specials when they first came out
little sketch at the beginning, and then the special starts.
I did that because I grew up with that, so
(16:45):
there is you'll really appreciate what I've done. So it
is a love letter really more or less to comics.
At the beginning, it has not the average person's gonna
go what are we watching and why, but it'll relate.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Enough to them.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
But it is about It is about rising above being
an open micer and being better than that. And I
do it in the style of you saw did you
see Rocky Balboa? Yeah, Rocky Balboa. Yeah, it's basically the
street scene with the sun. Oh okay, all right, confrontation.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
It's me and my son. So I love it to death.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
You know, and I'm very too close to it at
this point. But again, it's really it's because I watch
open mics every single week, yeah, you know, and I
record them for for the new guys and that and
sell it back to them because that's that's how I
make my living.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I'm kidding.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
But with that, I see so many problems, and then
I teach stand up too, so I see the problems
all the time. So this was just kind of a message.
You'll see, let's see what we'll see where it goes that.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I would love it. I would love to hear your input.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
No, I'm excited. Well, here's the crazy part about about that.
Like they everyone tells you to do open mics, and
I get that, you have to kind of get the
reps in. It's kind of like going to the gym
and starting out. But the feeling that you have at
open mic and the things that you do with open
mic are not the same things that you do at
a regular show, right, And I feel like a lot
of comedians getting a bad habit of playing to the
(18:18):
room of comedians at an open mic and don't really
work on material that will work in a room with
a real audience. And I see that. So I mean,
when I'm in LA, I'll go every now and then
open mic workout stuff. I have a lot of good
friends who will set up private open mic. So it's
just like a group of us who are working comedians
who know we can go and do it and we're
not dealing with that, and that's that's better. But you
(18:39):
get comedians when you if you go watch open mics
who played the room and don't work on their set
and don't work on getting better, and then they're like, hey,
I want to get booked, and you're like, tabitteal is
not going to.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Work with a real audience.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
It's the funny thing is about So Stir Crazy comedy
club that is my home club. The open Mic is
very much a real show. Most all the comics in
the valley say it's a real show because we fill
it up. It's six dollars tickets, no, no drink minimum.
It's a it's a real club. So it usually packs out.
(19:09):
But you can't play to the back of the room
because the audience won't allow you to do it. You
will bomb, you bomb quickly. But I see so many
comics they all say it's this is like a real room,
so it's legit when we come here. So that's why
we love this room so much. But you do see it.
It's you know, you practice poorly, you're going to perform
poorly by the time you get and the people that
you know, sometimes we give a chance to host, they're
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so used to doing those bar shows that if they're
not doing well, they they start going really blue, just
trying to get a.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Reaction out of the audience. And but that's all they.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Know because they've only done those bar shows and then
play into the back of the room and then just
shock value. So it's it's very interesting to watch that process.
I had though recently, I had one of my classes
just finished up, and two of the guys in my
class that were doing really well, they it's been it's
been about a month since the class. They got on
the open mic, and I could tell they hadn't been practicing.
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It was new material, they hadn't been practicing, and they
kept going to their notes but like long, like literally forgetful,
like uh, and they.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Were looking at their phone. I can't find it. Hold
on a second, and our audience is pretty pretty forgiving.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
They're like yeah, encouraging, like you got this, buddy, You're good,
and they're like uh, and then they blow all their
time and you're like all right. Then I'm in the
back run of the booth. So I'm like, I gotta
play you off, dude, very you know.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
So, but you got to practice.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
You gotta keep practicing, you know, even though you're going
to the open mic to quote practice, you got to
practice at home.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
You got to know what you're doing, you know.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
So it's heartbreaking you're like, come on, it's your opportunity,
and our club's hard to get onto, to be honest,
for the open mic, we do a lottery system because
there's so many people that want to do it. So
when you do get on, it's like, you know, it's
precious stage time at that point.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
The best part I think of touring and that I've
been I mean with this is if I want to
try out a new joke, right, write something, I can
do it right. I could. I have my material that
I know that works, but if I want to throw
in something new, I actually, uh wrote two new jokes
like over the last couple times and just slowly work
them and build them or whatever. I just kept doing
that and it's like, oh, I have this other idea.
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Let's i'll write it down. I'll go over with Zane,
we'll talk about it. You'll go ad, that's gonna sound
weird when you say it sounds weird when you're saying
it right now to me. You say that on stage
and you're under pressure, you're not gonna say it right.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
He's like, so.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Let's yeah, yeah, and that's what I working in there.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, that's what I do is I'll do like, I
know this joke works. I know this joke works. This
one is new. I'm gonna work it in the middle
of those two because it relates to those, and then
if it doesn't work, I can just jump directly to
the joke that I know that works, you know whatever.
And so yeah, it's great because Zay does the same
thing where he'll awesome and he'll this is what he'll
do when a joke doesn't work. He goes, that was
a new joke, thanks, so let me try out with
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you guys, and they'll laugh or whatever. He's like, all right,
and then like move on. And there's been a couple
of times where we both have tried to like, you
know the joke that you love, like you love this joke,
you love you worked on it, you love it, and
you keep shoehorning it in there even though it doesn't work,
but you love it. And it's just we've done that
both a few times and I was and finally one
day he goes, you got to stop doing that joke.
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There you go, I know, but like I love it.
He's like, I love I love that my joke too,
Like yeah, you just got.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
No Yes, I think I think you can sometimes do
that if the audience is on your side and you
do that joke for yourself and it doesn't go over.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I've done that, I've called it out like that was
for me.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
I think that's funny, you know, So like, no, all right,
let's keep going, you know, play it off for what
it is. It's like, I don't there's no harm, no
foul at that point, because if they're invested in the
EU and they.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Like you, you're like, okay, you know I didn't.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Just the other night that was super inside. So I
got asked to do a guest spot real quick. So
they played it up because I was working the booth
that night at the club. So they said, we're just
going to call you up, like like we're going to
just pretend that it's like, oh hey, you know, we
got a few extra minutes.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
We're gonna I want it.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
It's Lebrian, come on up boy, guys want to see
the DJ come out whatever. So like, fine, so I'll
play along. So I went up, did my ten minute
set and then uh, I just I just looked at
my watch.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I said up. Sorry, I pulled out a flashlight. I
lit myself.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
From stage I was like, and I looked back at
the booth, I went, I'm getting off, and then the
booker and like the staff cracked up laughing hard. And
I was just like, that was for five people, so
I said, moving whatever. But then they got to chuckle
out of the audience. But again it was just like
forst specific people. At that moment, I just thought, it's fun,
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just improvise it real quick, so let's just do it.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
So yeah, and every comedian in the world would laugh
at that, because like, oh, yeah, that's yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yeah, the idiot's looking.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Here's the Here's the other weird part is I've had
on the road. When I'm on the Rosane, we don't
like each we have a clock in the back of
the room that we have that that that lets us
know our time and we know our sets and whatever,
and we play, you know, we play with a little
bit of time. But like, yeah, it's so weird. I
had to go do a couple of spots when I
was home, and I'm used to the clock now, and
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so when someone's shine the light on me, I was like,
oh yeah, a light Like I had to like stop
in the middle of I sent me Oh yeah, a light,
Like what kind.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Of light that I asked for? Is that I asked
for one minute light?
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Or is that the time we forgot to ask? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah, exactly right. And so it threw me off, but
I was like and and so you know, it's it's
a funny thing. I wonder how a lot of comedians
who tour maybe they have a different way of doing things.
Maybe they do a clock and they do a timer,
because I do see I have seen really it was
like timers on the on the stage and stuff.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Somebody, yeah something, do bring it, bring it, stick it
on the floor. Like our club, we've got we've got
a we do have a regular clock in the back,
and then we have a two light system. Though, so
if you want a five minute light, basically you get
a yellow light that's your five and then when it
hits red, that's when you've reached your maximum time at
that point.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I like that that's a better system, you know, instead
of it's.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
A pretty yeah yeah, nice and easy.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Yeah no, because you know, sometimes they'll give you the
white light and you're like, wait, was that the first
light of the second light? And then they give me
a light again You're.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Like, see the first one was that the second one right?
Or you feel like, you know, have I been up
here that long?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
You know? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Or somebody who pulls out a flat somebody's looking at
their phone though in the back.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Was that the light?
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yes, yes, that's the worst, and you're like, wait, wait,
am I done?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (25:31):
The worst is when you're in the middle of a joke,
you see that, you finish your joke, and then you go, well,
you talk to the person in the back, I still
have time?
Speaker 2 (25:38):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (25:38):
And they're like, yeah, go ahead, you.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Know, yeah the voice from the dark, Yeah you have
five Okay.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
I was doing a Corpors show one night and they said,
just do fifteen and then they're going to bring out
and we you know, with another guy coming out after me.
And I thought, oh okay, because I thought we were
supposed to do a total of like an hour, and
I said, okay, guy doing forty five. So anyways, I
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was correct. We were supposed to be like the guy
behind me was only supposed to do thirty, so they
had me do ten.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
That's what it was.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
So anyways, I got the light originally to wrap up,
and then I started wrapping up and then I see
a flashlight on the person in the booth.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Going, oh my gosh, wretch.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Okay, because you know I was heading toward closer, Okay,
and I gotta read. Okay, let's go, let's keep going.
Luckily I hadn't done my closer. Then it's just like, okay,
ready for some mediocre stuff for the next ten Let's
just do it.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Let's get through this. So but yeah, that's always fun.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Well, that's awesome, and I was so excited for your
special again. It'll be on June seventeenth at seven pm
Pacific time on YouTube. You're gonna live stream, so you'll
be on there talking to people as you as they
watch it.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Right, yep, I will do my best to interact. This
is allly.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
This is the first time I've done one of those
premier on YouTube, so that'll be fun.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I lucked out.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I'm doing a or it depending on when this airs.
Yesterday last night, I did a premiere party for just
friends and family and some of my students. My students
really pressured me. They're like, hey, do you should do
a premiere all my stand up comedy students. So I'm
like all right, So, but I looked out My friend
is one of the most popular weathermen here in Arizona
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because you know, the weather's hard here.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yeah, like so cow weather exactly.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
So anyways, I invited him to the premiere, but usually
he has to work that night. I told him, I
know you can't make it because you're working. Anyways, he goes, no,
we're just going to bring the crew out. We're going
to do the we'll do a live remote.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
So from like, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
I mean, the party is only from six to eight,
but he's like, we'll come out about four and then
we'll do all the live weather reports all night there.
So that's crazy. So I'm going to get I'll get
the exposure at least in the valley. You're pretty good.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
So I should ask them if you could do the
weather report one day, just like, Hey, it's it's gonna
be it's Arizonas.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
That would be sad. Hey it's gonna be hot. Drinks
of water back to you all the time, Like how hot.
You're like, it's just gonna be the chance of rain.
Come on, fifty to fifty you covered? Yeah, move on right.
So but yeah, so I lucked out. I get to
do They're going to be doing that. I've got good
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friends and family that want to come and support. The
other reason too, for putting this out is the older
I get. You know, I've been doing comedy now what
sixteen yeah, sixteen years, coming up on sixteen years. You know,
your friends always tell you, yeah, I want to come
out and see you.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Yeah, lighters.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
You know, over time, by the time you reach year five,
you go, they're not coming. You know, year ten, you're like,
they're never coming. At fifteen, I'm like, okay, So at
least this way, especially like my wife's family's all back east,
I don't I don't really do. I don't get out
to the East Coast that often doing stand up, so
at least they'll have something they can watch online. So
at least to the masses, we can do that. I mean,
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I have my dry Bar special too, but to be
honest and nothing anti dry Bar. But the fact is
I shot mine during the pandemic. So when you watch
other people's clips versus mine, I have fifty people masked
in my audience versus you know, the three point fifty
that you normally have there having a great time. So
it is different, and dry Bar doesn't really push that
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algorithm that much with those I noticed a lot with
those shows.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
So this is.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
To be honest, it's a lot of the same material,
but at least this way people will see it. So
and I found already just with everything I've been starting
to clip out, I'm getting pretty good response from people,
pretty pretty quickly, getting a pretty good reach. So so
again that's all new to me.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I learn as you learn.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Yeah, yeah, well, I mean, if I didn't have Zane
pushing me, I definitely would not have would not be
pushing as far as i'm The other thing that I've
been doing on tour is at the end of the show,
when people come up to the mar table and talk
to us or whatever and stuff. I have stickers.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Do I have a sticker with me? Stickers?
Speaker 1 (30:05):
This sticker my fat fat bonds the sticker. I have
a joke.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
So I say, if you follow me on Instagram, I'll
give you a sticker, and and just from that I
do three an average of about five people per show
follow me on Instagram after that, and so five per show,
and I'm like that's perfect. You know, we just keep
going and once we break a thousand, I know it
has like a snowball effect. After that, they start pushing
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more and stuff. So it's just where we're at. But
you gotta find different ways to to get people to
follow you, to get the algorithm to work in your
favor and all that stuff. And it's a lot to
do clips and all that stuff all the time.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
So yeah, I mean, it's got so much more work
than people. I mean, I mean my background is production,
and this is I mean, first of all, to go
vertical is killing. Then I gotta like follow, you know,
I move around, I move on stage, so I'm constantly
trying to find myself in the clip, which is annoying.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
But I was gonna say with the social media stuff.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Though, you know, I'm older than you, so my demographic
of people aren't on social media, so it's kind of
like those that are that are you know, that figured
it out, they're following. But like I noticed for me
right now, certain clips are hitting way harder on Instagram
than certain clips on Facebook that are hitting way harder.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
So it just depends on subject matter.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
I noticed, for one, for sure, on Facebook, the in
terms of longer videos, they're watching those, whereas a little
bit longer ones and by longer, I mean, the difference
between over thirty seconds versus under thirty seconds, just that
mentality of the youth to not want to watch. Because
I'm old, I can say the youth, you know what
(31:54):
I mean, if it's not.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
This, they don't want to they don't want to watch.
They're they're that fast, you know.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Well, what's funny is I'll put clips on Reddit and
I'll put clips on Instagram, and their difference is the same.
Thing is like some will pop on on Reddit, and
then some will pop on Instagram that won't pop on
rend it and save it. With YouTube shorts too, if
I put them on YouTube shorts, some of them amazing
great numbers. Some of them that did well on Instagram
or Reddit or somewhere else don't do well on YouTube shorts.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
So it's weird, and it's you gotta you know, you
gotta keep track bend lee where all that stuff is.
But in the same breath, like even YouTube shorts, I'm
shocked with the numbers I've been getting, Like within twenty
four hours, I'm getting like a thousand to two thousand
hits on some of these clips, three thousand on some
of them. It's just like, really, because I don't. I
don't have a YouTube following, I don't have anything I'm
(32:45):
shy of. I think I'm at ninety three subscribers at
this point, hopefully more by the time the special starts.
But you just don't know who's watching, and you know
what you put in that they want to they want
to see, So it's it's yeah, it's it's like going
back to school and trying to figure it all out
and juggle it all. The one thing, too, this is
interesting that most people don't talk about. I just swung
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for the fence and I started clipping on LinkedIn.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
I just thought it's business oriented. This is my business.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
So and I have friends of mine that I'm not
friends anywhere else except LinkedIn, And to be honest, it's
had pretty good reach. Some of the interactions I've gotten
are are not what I expected, because again LinkedIn's not
really know how many people I have I'm connected with
on LinkedIn, but that's actually been You know, you get
one or two followers that wants to fall along, though
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they might tell a few, you just don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
So try try it all, is what I guess I'm
trying to say.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
On LinkedIn, Are you doing vertical there too.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Are you doing You're doing verticals there too? Yeah, ok yeah,
but do everything vertical.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
By the time I'm done, I don't want to revisit it,
so I'm just like, all right, just let it do.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Yeah. So and the.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Captioning, oh, I know, at least with the AI, it's
gotten a lot easier.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah, so you know yeah, I mean yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
I had to go from and this this is going
to be inside Baseball for some of you guys. I
had to go from Final Cup Pro Learning I know
all that I learned that stuff to Learning Premiere because
that's what Zaane uses. So we could kind of like
work with files and understand and it was like, oh,
I'm trying to It's like I know some right because
some of those things are similar, but other things I
was like, oh my gosh, this is so much more
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work for me.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
So yeah, yeah, So to kind of give you piggyback
on that real quick, I it was just about done
with the special okay. And the system I edit on
is a kind of it was never a real popular system.
If I said it, no one would even know what
I'm talking about. That's how archaic it is.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Tell me, because I probably I might know it Cosa
Blanca costa blank Okay, yeah, yeah, I've only seen it.
I've only seen it once, yes.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Yes, in a museum anyway, But the but he's gone
through bankruptcy. I've recently found out the hard way that
ninety like ninety five percent of the workforce has been terminated.
And anyway, so I'm I'm basically done with the special
I'm working on credits, okay, And I realized there's a
(35:16):
couple of things I need to fix credit wise, ads,
you know whatever. And my system decides to update, and
then it does a complete change of the serial number,
so I can't I don't have access to anything.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Now Luckily I saved.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
I've got a copy saved, you know. So I was like, oh, man,
so I couldn't get a hold of anybody. The guy
who's in charge of it is sick, and the other
guy no. So for four days, I'm in a panic
because I'm like, I got something to do. So in
that panic, I bought a brand new computer and I'm
I'm doing Da Vinci Resolve now, oh okay, and learning
that just as fast as I could. Luckily, Macrosystems got
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back with me, set me up with the new codes.
Everything was still there, thank god, was able to finish ship.
So what you see is actually has been edited on
the on the Macrosystems Studio Studio Pro. And then it's
Sara because like everything's Da Vinci now and it is
night and day because the original the system I was
(36:15):
editing on was never set up for the future of
you know, vertical video and everything else. So yeah, so
I've got that learning curve going on myself, trying to
just figure out and this is totally different style of
editing for me.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
So luckily, my son is a very good editor. He's
but he's a.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Premiere, abe premiere and all that good stuff. So he's like, yeah,
between his tutorials and the online tutorials, I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Okay, that's good. By the way too, you'll see my
son in the special. He's great, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
I know, you say something like like Vegas or whatever,
like as the as you're Yeah, yeah, I was. I
was like, oh, he's gonna say something like Vegas. That's cool,
whatever you do whatever, who knowl Yeah, but yeah, I see,
I've tried to do add I've tried to do the
veggie and then Apple's basic whatever the Apples basic one is,
if we're what their basic one is before you get
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Final Cut pro and then yeah, now now I have
to learn Premiere and I'm like, oh my gosh, this
is so many to learn.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
And the crazy thing is to everybody's like at a
buddy of mine call yesterday and he goes, hey, you
ever use cap Cut, I'm like, no, but a couple
of my other friends have and they love it.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I mean, yeah, so there's a million things out there
for people. Now. It's it's insane.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
What I went to school for and what I've done for,
you know, thirty plus years. Everyone can do on their
phone or they can do with the little app and it's.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Like that, That's why I became a comic. I can't
complete it.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
So but like, primarily I'm hoping I could do some
specials or help some of my other friends out with
some of their their types of specials.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
That's what I think I'm geared toward.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Doing because like you know, like I said, I we
were talking before the show, you know, I do the
open mics. I record the open mics. A lot of
my clips are out there. I mean in the Phoenix scene,
man you'll see ton of the clips that I've done
for everybody.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
But you know, that's awesome, man.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
A lot of comedy to watch.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
There's there's a that's the thing. There's a lot of
comedy to watch. But everybody's gonna be watching your special
on June seventeenth to seven pm Pacific Standard time. Go
check it out. Brian will be there live on his YouTube.
What's the YouTube again, Brian one more time?
Speaker 2 (38:22):
At comedian Brian Kahatsu.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
At comedian Brian Katsu. I'll put that in the show
on too, so you guys can find it. Come out
watch it. I'm gonna be on. I'm gonna watch it
for sure. I'm excited. This is great. Brian's awesome. If
you haven't, if you haven't even watched your seeing his
other special secret Asian man, first of all, hilarious, you
will love it. Go watch it. There you go, Aha,
there you go.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
I'm always ready with merch.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Yeah, go check it out.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
These are on Spotify or wherever you find your.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Digital I believe they're also on Apple Music all that stuff.
So go check it out and then come on the
seventeenth and watch Brian special. Thank you everybody for coming
thank you Brian for being on the podcast, thank you
for having I have a good one and we'll talk
to you guys soon.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Bye and
Speaker 3 (39:04):
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get some green. Hey, everybody, welcome to the Clean Comedy Podcast.
Is Jad and I'm back with a great friend of mine.
If you go back to the beginning of this podcast,
probably like two years in, I had this guy on.
He's awesome. He's from Arizona. He's a filmmaker, he's a comedian.
I think he does probably more than anybody, even more
than me and I do a lot, but he's awesome.
(00:44):
So we had him on and we talked about his
first special, secret Asian Man, and now he has a
second special coming out, so we're here to talk about that.
Please welcome the very funny, the very talented Brian Katsu. Brian,
welcome back.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Thank you, James. He made me sound like a piece
of history.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Well, I didn't mean know like that. It's been like
you do a.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Lot, man, Okay, we do go back. It has been
a while. I think it was pandemic.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Too pandemic yet, Well it's it's been a while, yeah,
too too long, I think.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah, no, it's been a while for sure. So no,
thanks for having me on the show. Yes, I'm here
to just pitch, pitch, pitch, dude.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I wonder if there should be an episode where just
people just come pitch ideas for jokes or whatever. I
don't know. That sounds kind of fun.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Who knows?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
That is kind of interesting? And the whole massive cats,
that whole they can all work on. One thing begins.
That's not a bad idea.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
That's actually not a bad idea. Jeez, Brian, Brian just
started up it. It's his idea, so he started, so
another thing he does.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
It's our idea, it's your show. It's it's our idea
at this point.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Well, so you got to do Spocial coming out on
the seventeenth right of.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
June, Yes, which happens to be my birthday.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
So I'm guilty people into watching my special if that works. Hmmm,
because I got it done and I was window release
that I thought, we're so close. This way I get
at least promoted a little bit more and then get
it out there. So that's that. Yeah, June seventeenth is
my birthday. So yes, I'm guilty everybody. I'm doing YouTube premiere.
(02:12):
Probably I think this may may be airing on that day.
So seven o'clock tonight, Arizona time, which is uh, I
don't know. It was a mountain or Pacific.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I don't know. We don't change times, so I never
know what zone we're in.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
What time is it there currently?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Currently it is ten am. It's the same as you.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I believe it's so Pacific, So Pacific time, so specific time.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Okay, So at seven o'clock on YouTube at comedian Bran
Kahatsu's where you can find me there. And but that'll
be the premiere online on YouTube. So I'll do the
live chat while we all watch it together and then
and then just open the door for all the haters.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, what's the name of this special? Call Brian?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
This special is? This special is called Brian Kahatsu Way.
And I say it that way because I don't want
a lawsuit. Uh So it's Brian Kahatsu Wham. It's not wham,
it's Branka Hatsu whim and it is with two exclamation
points to uh to separate it from the actual band wham.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
So that's how that works, just covering all the legals.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
That's smart. That's smart.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah, so that's how that works.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
And why why wham? What was it? Was it a
throwback to the eighties? Are you like, are you kicking
it back then?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Or is it there's a joke that years ago talking
about history.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Years ago when I have a radio show, there was
a news story about Andrew Ridgeley and I riffed a
joke which was you know it was It was funny.
We all laughed and then we moved on with the
rest of our lives. When I started doing stand up,
it was one of those things where trying to find
it stuff and that was one joke that I thought, gosh,
I think I could bring that back, and I did.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
So.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
It's been one of my main stage jokes for a
long time that everybody seems to really like it, hasn't
Has it aged well.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
To some degree?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yes, to some degree, No, it just depends on my generation,
for sure gets it. They love that joke. So yeah,
so that was like one of my first big hit
kind of jokes. So I thought, well, let's kind of
just throw it, throw it some love. So that's kind
of and and Wyam's nice and easy. It's a one
syllable kind of sounds like you know, you know, and
the older you get, That's why I keep saying this,
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the older you get, then wham, life hits you.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
So it doesn't get any easier. So that's good. That's
where it comes from.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
So it's based on one joke that happens to deal
with with the actual group.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
William, but it's not because it has two explorations.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I love this is so much like legally is like
stay safe in this. It's hilarious with this special where'd
you film it at? How long do you tell us
the process? And like building up to that and stuff
as well.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
So for those that don't know, James kind of knows.
We've talked about.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah. I do a lot of different things.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
So I started off my career. I own a video
production company. I've done corporate video my basically entire life
prior to becoming a comedian. So flash forward now, I
got asked to do a charity event in South Carolina
for my friend Chris Roup. So I went out there
and did the event. And being a video guy myself,
people always say to me, you know we're recording tonight,
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we'll send you the footage, which is you and I
both know that's a lie.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
You never get it, and if you do, it's terrible, right,
It's terrible.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Always, it's the worst.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
It's it's it's audio with no audience, so it looks
like you're bombing the whole time, you know, So it's
the worst. So he said, I'll send it to you.
I said, great, fantastic. Now this is it's shot in
a church. There's four cameras. I thought, okay, maybe maybe
we got something here. So it took about three months
and he finally sent me. But he sent me the
live switch that they did. And to be honest, you know,
(05:45):
these guys are enjoying the show, they're not really live
switching because it wasn't in the room. I think they
streamed it to a couple of people. But anyways, the
switch was okay, and at one point I think they
kind of just let it go because it was like
side camera on and oh we better mix it up camera.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
So but it was.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Good enough, and I thought I could sell it. But
the audio is amazing, so I'm like, this is pretty good.
So I put that all together, color corrected everything, got
it all set.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
And redid everything.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
I was about to put it out and put out
a little tiny clip and my buddy who brought me out, Chris, says,
I have the raw footage.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Did you want the raw footage? And I said, yeah,
I want the raw footage.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
So that took another like six to seven months to
get that.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So now finally got that.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
By the time I got the footage and everything else
and got it all done in terms of just downloading
everything and getting it ready to go, then I got
just slammed with I had gigs and work and just
everything was.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Hitting at the same time.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
So I was piecemealing trying to get this thing together
over time, and then finally this year I was just like,
just hunker down and finish it because it's just going
to keep going.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I'm my hair's way shorter.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I think I'm probably twenty pounds heavier in the special,
but I don't care.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I mean whatever.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Yeah, So very happy with the way it did finally
come out, but it was it was a long.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Labor of Love. But yeah, four cameras.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
They had a moving track and Dolly camera in the
back for the master shot, so everything's there. It looks
and feels like a good special. But the audio is
the main thing. The laughter portion is just so well
miked that it's I mean, there's a theory not a theory,
but I heard Dana Carvey talking about how they miked
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his special, and it's similar to that which you put
multiple mics out so you can hear individual laughter amongst
the crowd. So it's not just this blanket large laugh.
You can actually hear individuals laughing.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
So so the audio is great.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Actually the audio currently is on Spotify. But I'm a
physical comic. That's why I think an audio version is
really funny because you don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Half the time, You're like, what is the joke?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
So so I think it's great that if you happen
to hear the audio, you'll definitely go, I want to
see what's happening, so you'll hopefully switch on over to
the video on YouTube. So that's where it came from.
That's kind of the genesis behind it.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
That's pretty awesome because it wasn't something that you planned
to do, Like you weren't like, oh I'm gonna record
this day, I need this many people, I'm gonna do
all these things. It wasn't that. It was just like,
this show went great. It was beautiful. I know I
could do something with it, and now I'm going to
turn it into a special. And I keep thinking about that.
You might have inspired you because I am on tour
Zane Lamprey. We're everywhere. We shoot almost every night. Two cameras,
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four K blackmagic cameras, like they're just beautiful stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
And your stuff You've been putting on a lot more stuff.
It looks great, it really, yeah, looks great funny too, so.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Oh wow, thank you.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
One of them is one of my favorite shows that
we did. And there's no like real different clips from it,
but it just was felt like one of the best
shows I've ever done. And I have the whole video
and I'm thinking a fifteen minute special, I mean, is
that something worth putting out or is it not? I
don't know, And I see people putting out way worse
and waste. I'm like, oh, I have a ten minute special,
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like ten minutes like special.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
It's set my theory on this is, and you're hitting
on it, is that the you know, we all watch Netflix,
Andrew Schultz, whatever you're gonna do an hour, ninety minutes.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Or whatever.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
For for the rest of us. I don't think you know,
thirty minutes special every so often isn't bad. As long
as you're good polish stuff and it looks good, you
might as well. To be honest, I mean, I I
am not. I don't clip out anything that I do
because I just haven't.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I just have so.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Many hats that I wear that when this came along,
I did the special. Now I'm starting to clip it out,
which is a whole different world.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I'm learning oh so hard.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
And I notice you've been putting out more too, So
it's like, yeah, it's a different beast because you got
to schedule this that how many clips do I need?
And you need so much to keep putting out.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
So that's that.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
But if you do a half hour special every so often,
it does give you a ton of stuff that you
can clip out and you can put out there it
looks nice. You've got your clips, and then now you've
got your full special too. So I think shorter is
better long term going down the road, I think you're
going to see more of that, to be honest.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
And then the bigger guys, they're bergazi's in the world.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
You know, every once in a while they're going to
put out their hour to hour and a half's whatever
they want to do. So yeah, I'm I'm one hundred
percent behind you on that.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Well, what's cool is I don't know if you know
Josh Johnson's he was like he's on the Daily Show
and he does whatever, but he'll be releasing a like
a I think it was like a half hour every
Tuesday on his YouTube for like a year, like the
last year, and I'm like, oh my gosh, this guy's amazing.
And some of them are so good that where they're
up for like Emmy nominations, Like that's how good.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Really?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah? Yeah, So you know, I was a lot of
material every week, a lot of it's here, and it's
always new stuff. It's always whatever he's talking about. It
could be political, it could be personal, it could be
I mean it's crazy. And yeah, tons of respect to
him for that. I Mean he's one of those people
I'm just like, wow, you are You're doing it like
you're doing the thing that everybody's like, oh, you know,
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the common guide was, you know, one hour long special
every two years. That was good to go, and then
some people were doing them every year and then they
got kind of got burned out, you can see, and
he goes back to two years. But he's doing half
an hour every week. I'm like, man, he's going to
be I'm surprised he's not more famous. He's going to
be super famous one day. But he's amazing.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
There is something to exercising that muscle, though, it's like
we are you know, stage time, stage time, stage time.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
It's the same thing with that.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
If he's used to doing it, you kind of get
into not that a rhythm is a lazy thing, but
getting into a rhythm of saying, Okay, this is how,
this is what I need to talk about, this is
what's been working, how to go about writing these or
how to present them at least to make them interesting
to everybody, and then you know, like.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I said, you kind of get used to doing that.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
It's the same thing like with for you for podcasting too,
those first few episodes, I'm sure we're like, let's figure
it out, and then now you're on your way. The
same thing with stand up the more you do it,
you know, you go through those like you said, you're
on tour right.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Now, you get those multiple dates.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
By the time, you know, you're so not overly confident,
but you're just confident, like, Okay, I can go out
there and I can present and do a great job
and andyone's gonna have a good time, versus that hit
and miss mentality of stand up sometimes where you're like, oh,
I need another gig, you know, and it may not
be the best gig, but then you're down on yourself
because it's not a great audience, it's not a good venue,
and you're out of practice.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, well it's gonna be crazy because I have this
long run. We have like a ten day run coming
up in Ohio and Indiana that we're gonna do, and
then after that we come back and I go immediately
on vacation to San Francisco for a week, and then
the Greg came in for like ten days and then
come back and we don't go back out until the
beginning of August. So all of my July is just
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me not really doing stand up. I mean, I think
I might have like one show in between there that
somebody booked me for, but it's not the same thing.
And it's like, all right, I know that that first
show back getting back on the road is gonna be rough.
It's gonna be a hard show because you know, I'll
leave this run on a high note going yeah, this
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is great. You know, I kill it right right, but
I'll go back and it'll be a little bit of
ring rust on there and you gotta kind of break
it off and get back in there. And I noticed
the longer we're home that first the first show is
always a doozy. It's always the one where you're like,
oh man, that could have gone so much better. But
as Zane and I do the same thing, we both
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say like, oh man, what happened. I'm like, I don't
know if we should be doing more stuff at home,
Like we should probably be trying to get to one
show each warm up show, yeah, while we're home, to
kind of keep in the groove, even if it's just
one show during those ten days or whatever, and then
go back out.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
I don't know, to be honest, even if it's like,
even if it's a ten minute set somewhere anywhere, just
to get back up on stage, and do it. My
buddy eric O'Shea, you know, he does the colleges and
everything else, and that's his big thing. I need something anywhere,
ten minutes, fifteen whatever, you you know, anywhere, and he
starts just in that to get warmed up before he
goes out on the road, just to get back on
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stage somewhere.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I tend to be a little different though.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
For some reason, I get if I'm off for a
long time, I get hyper focused. Though by the time
I get back on stage, and I really, for some reason,
I don't miss I don't miss anything. Not to say one,
I resent perfect and there is that rust factor, of course,
but I am hyper focused in the moment for some reason,
just to like okay, And then I always surprise myself
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like you didn't miss anything. You got everything you set
out to do in your set. You know, it's not
like you know, you're like, I haven't been doing this
in a month, Like what was that? I forgot that
one whole bit about something. But yeah, yeah, I tend
to get really hot. Actually, the special was one where
I hadn't performed and I think at least three weeks,
so there's a little there's a little rust on there
in a couple areas. But like I said, I really
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don't care at this stage in my career. Like I said,
I got good video, good sound out of it, So
I got something out of it.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
So is it perfect? Of course not, and no special
will we over be perfect for anybody? Yeah, it can't be.
I mean, it just can't be.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Well, that's the thing is, like we listened. We listen
to the specials when we drive sometimes like because we'll
have like two hour drives from you know, whatever the
venue is back to the hotel or whatever. Yeah, or
sometimes longer we've had someone where we had like three
or four hour drives and uh, we'll listen to specials
and we'll both go, oh man, this would have been
a much better punchline for that or this would have
been and you know that that comedian listened to the
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special was like, oh my gosh, why did I not
say this instead? Why was that? Why was why did
I word that set up that way? You know, all
those little things and coming from and we're cetting right
off stage, so we're hyper aware of stand up and
what you're saying. That when we listen to those, it's
so much better. And then sometimes we'll posit and we'll
start writing jokes in the car because we're so inspired
by whatever. Yeah, that's pretty sure, pretty pretty awesome. Stand
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up does something to you. It does. It does focus
you in a way that that other things don't. I
think the only other thing I could think of that
I ever felt as focused as like at was presuming
you jitsu. And it's because you have to be aware
in the moment of what's going on, but also remember
what you're supposed to do in those moments.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah. Yeah, well that's a difference between life and death.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah, well, I mean, hi note, but not really, I
mean metaphorically, Yeah, metaphor, I mean, but they're both. But
when you when you're bombing on stage, it feels like dying.
You feel like you're dying. It's fight or flight, it
really is.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
At that point, you're either like, I gotta get off
the stage or all right, let's hunker and let's find
the one punchline that's gonna it's a punch. Speaking of which,
that's a perfect segue. At the beginning of my special,
there is a sketch. So I went old school. Okay,
So think HBO comedy specials when they first came out
little sketch at the beginning, and then the special starts.
I did that because I grew up with that, so
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there is you'll really appreciate what I've done. So it
is a love letter really more or less to comics.
At the beginning, it has not the average person's gonna
go what are we watching and why, but it'll relate.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Enough to them.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
But it is about It is about rising above being
an open micer and being better than that. And I
do it in the style of you saw did you
see Rocky Balboa? Yeah, Rocky Balboa. Yeah, it's basically the
street scene with the sun. Oh okay, all right, confrontation.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
It's me and my son. So I love it to death.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
You know, and I'm very too close to it at
this point. But again, it's really it's because I watch
open mics every single week, yeah, you know, and I
record them for for the new guys and that and
sell it back to them because that's that's how I
make my living.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I'm kidding.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
But with that, I see so many problems, and then
I teach stand up too, so I see the problems
all the time. So this was just kind of a message.
You'll see, let's see what we'll see where it goes that.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I would love it. I would love to hear your input.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
No, I'm excited. Well, here's the crazy part about about that.
Like they everyone tells you to do open mics, and
I get that, you have to kind of get the
reps in. It's kind of like going to the gym
and starting out. But the feeling that you have at
open mic and the things that you do with open
mic are not the same things that you do at
a regular show, right, And I feel like a lot
of comedians getting a bad habit of playing to the
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room of comedians at an open mic and don't really
work on material that will work in a room with
a real audience. And I see that. So I mean,
when I'm in LA, I'll go every now and then
open mic workout stuff. I have a lot of good
friends who will set up private open mic. So it's
just like a group of us who are working comedians
who know we can go and do it and we're
not dealing with that, and that's that's better. But you
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get comedians when you if you go watch open mics
who played the room and don't work on their set
and don't work on getting better, and then they're like, hey,
I want to get booked, and you're like, tabitteal is
not going to.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Work with a real audience.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
It's the funny thing is about So Stir Crazy comedy
club that is my home club. The open Mic is
very much a real show. Most all the comics in
the valley say it's a real show because we fill
it up. It's six dollars tickets, no, no drink minimum.
It's a it's a real club. So it usually packs out.
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But you can't play to the back of the room
because the audience won't allow you to do it. You
will bomb, you bomb quickly. But I see so many
comics they all say it's this is like a real room,
so it's legit when we come here. So that's why
we love this room so much. But you do see it.
It's you know, you practice poorly, you're going to perform
poorly by the time you get and the people that
you know, sometimes we give a chance to host, they're
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so used to doing those bar shows that if they're
not doing well, they they start going really blue, just
trying to get a.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Reaction out of the audience. And but that's all they.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Know because they've only done those bar shows and then
play into the back of the room and then just
shock value. So it's it's very interesting to watch that process.
I had though recently, I had one of my classes
just finished up, and two of the guys in my
class that were doing really well, they it's been it's
been about a month since the class. They got on
the open mic, and I could tell they hadn't been practicing.
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It was new material, they hadn't been practicing, and they
kept going to their notes but like long, like literally forgetful,
like uh, and they.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Were looking at their phone. I can't find it. Hold
on a second, and our audience is pretty pretty forgiving.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
They're like yeah, encouraging, like you got this, buddy, You're good,
and they're like uh, and then they blow all their
time and you're like all right. Then I'm in the
back run of the booth. So I'm like, I gotta
play you off, dude, very you know.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
So, but you got to practice.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
You gotta keep practicing, you know, even though you're going
to the open mic to quote practice, you got to
practice at home.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
You got to know what you're doing, you know.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
So it's heartbreaking you're like, come on, it's your opportunity,
and our club's hard to get onto, to be honest,
for the open mic, we do a lottery system because
there's so many people that want to do it. So
when you do get on, it's like, you know, it's
precious stage time at that point.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
The best part I think of touring and that I've
been I mean with this is if I want to
try out a new joke, right, write something, I can
do it right. I could. I have my material that
I know that works, but if I want to throw
in something new, I actually, uh wrote two new jokes
like over the last couple times and just slowly work
them and build them or whatever. I just kept doing
that and it's like, oh, I have this other idea.
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Let's i'll write it down. I'll go over with Zane,
we'll talk about it. You'll go ad, that's gonna sound
weird when you say it sounds weird when you're saying
it right now to me. You say that on stage
and you're under pressure, you're not gonna say it right.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
He's like, so.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Let's yeah, yeah, and that's what I working in there.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, that's what I do is I'll do like, I
know this joke works. I know this joke works. This
one is new. I'm gonna work it in the middle
of those two because it relates to those, and then
if it doesn't work, I can just jump directly to
the joke that I know that works, you know whatever.
And so yeah, it's great because Zay does the same
thing where he'll awesome and he'll this is what he'll
do when a joke doesn't work. He goes, that was
a new joke, thanks, so let me try out with
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you guys, and they'll laugh or whatever. He's like, all right,
and then like move on. And there's been a couple
of times where we both have tried to like, you
know the joke that you love, like you love this joke,
you love you worked on it, you love it, and
you keep shoehorning it in there even though it doesn't work,
but you love it. And it's just we've done that
both a few times and I was and finally one
day he goes, you got to stop doing that joke.
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There you go, I know, but like I love it.
He's like, I love I love that my joke too,
Like yeah, you just got.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
No Yes, I think I think you can sometimes do
that if the audience is on your side and you
do that joke for yourself and it doesn't go over.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I've done that, I've called it out like that was
for me.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
I think that's funny, you know, So like, no, all right,
let's keep going, you know, play it off for what
it is. It's like, I don't there's no harm, no
foul at that point, because if they're invested in the
EU and they.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Like you, you're like, okay, you know I didn't.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Just the other night that was super inside. So I
got asked to do a guest spot real quick. So
they played it up because I was working the booth
that night at the club. So they said, we're just
going to call you up, like like we're going to
just pretend that it's like, oh hey, you know, we
got a few extra minutes.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
We're gonna I want it.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
It's Lebrian, come on up boy, guys want to see
the DJ come out whatever. So like, fine, so I'll
play along. So I went up, did my ten minute
set and then uh, I just I just looked at
my watch.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I said up. Sorry, I pulled out a flashlight. I
lit myself.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
From stage I was like, and I looked back at
the booth, I went, I'm getting off, and then the
booker and like the staff cracked up laughing hard. And
I was just like, that was for five people, so
I said, moving whatever. But then they got to chuckle
out of the audience. But again it was just like
forst specific people. At that moment, I just thought, it's fun,
(23:45):
just improvise it real quick, so let's just do it.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
So yeah, and every comedian in the world would laugh
at that, because like, oh, yeah, that's yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yeah, the idiot's looking.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Here's the Here's the other weird part is I've had
on the road. When I'm on the Rosane, we don't
like each we have a clock in the back of
the room that we have that that that lets us
know our time and we know our sets and whatever,
and we play, you know, we play with a little
bit of time. But like, yeah, it's so weird. I
had to go do a couple of spots when I
was home, and I'm used to the clock now, and
(24:15):
so when someone's shine the light on me, I was like,
oh yeah, a light Like I had to like stop
in the middle of I sent me Oh yeah, a light,
Like what kind.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Of light that I asked for? Is that I asked
for one minute light?
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Or is that the time we forgot to ask? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah, exactly right. And so it threw me off, but
I was like and and so you know, it's it's
a funny thing. I wonder how a lot of comedians
who tour maybe they have a different way of doing things.
Maybe they do a clock and they do a timer,
because I do see I have seen really it was
like timers on the on the stage and stuff.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Somebody, yeah something, do bring it, bring it, stick it
on the floor. Like our club, we've got we've got
a we do have a regular clock in the back,
and then we have a two light system. Though, so
if you want a five minute light, basically you get
a yellow light that's your five and then when it
hits red, that's when you've reached your maximum time at
that point.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I like that that's a better system, you know, instead
of it's.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
A pretty yeah yeah, nice and easy.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Yeah no, because you know, sometimes they'll give you the
white light and you're like, wait, was that the first
light of the second light? And then they give me
a light again You're.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Like, see the first one was that the second one right?
Or you feel like, you know, have I been up
here that long?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
You know? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Or somebody who pulls out a flat somebody's looking at
their phone though in the back.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Was that the light?
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yes, yes, that's the worst, and you're like, wait, wait,
am I done?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (25:31):
The worst is when you're in the middle of a joke,
you see that, you finish your joke, and then you go, well,
you talk to the person in the back, I still
have time?
Speaker 2 (25:38):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (25:38):
And they're like, yeah, go ahead, you.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Know, yeah the voice from the dark, Yeah you have
five Okay.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
I was doing a Corpors show one night and they said,
just do fifteen and then they're going to bring out
and we you know, with another guy coming out after me.
And I thought, oh okay, because I thought we were
supposed to do a total of like an hour, and
I said, okay, guy doing forty five. So anyways, I
(26:04):
was correct. We were supposed to be like the guy
behind me was only supposed to do thirty, so they
had me do ten.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
That's what it was.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
So anyways, I got the light originally to wrap up,
and then I started wrapping up and then I see
a flashlight on the person in the booth.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Going, oh my gosh, wretch.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Okay, because you know I was heading toward closer, Okay,
and I gotta read. Okay, let's go, let's keep going.
Luckily I hadn't done my closer. Then it's just like, okay,
ready for some mediocre stuff for the next ten Let's
just do it.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Let's get through this. So but yeah, that's always fun.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Well, that's awesome, and I was so excited for your
special again. It'll be on June seventeenth at seven pm
Pacific time on YouTube. You're gonna live stream, so you'll
be on there talking to people as you as they
watch it.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Right, yep, I will do my best to interact. This
is allly.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
This is the first time I've done one of those
premier on YouTube, so that'll be fun.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I lucked out.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I'm doing a or it depending on when this airs.
Yesterday last night, I did a premiere party for just
friends and family and some of my students. My students
really pressured me. They're like, hey, do you should do
a premiere all my stand up comedy students. So I'm
like all right, So, but I looked out My friend
is one of the most popular weathermen here in Arizona
(27:25):
because you know, the weather's hard here.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yeah, like so cow weather exactly.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
So anyways, I invited him to the premiere, but usually
he has to work that night. I told him, I
know you can't make it because you're working. Anyways, he goes, no,
we're just going to bring the crew out. We're going
to do the we'll do a live remote.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
So from like, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
I mean, the party is only from six to eight,
but he's like, we'll come out about four and then
we'll do all the live weather reports all night there.
So that's crazy. So I'm going to get I'll get
the exposure at least in the valley. You're pretty good.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
So I should ask them if you could do the
weather report one day, just like, Hey, it's it's gonna
be it's Arizonas.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
That would be sad. Hey it's gonna be hot. Drinks
of water back to you all the time, Like how hot.
You're like, it's just gonna be the chance of rain.
Come on, fifty to fifty you covered? Yeah, move on right.
So but yeah, so I lucked out. I get to
do They're going to be doing that. I've got good
(28:28):
friends and family that want to come and support. The
other reason too, for putting this out is the older
I get. You know, I've been doing comedy now what
sixteen yeah, sixteen years, coming up on sixteen years. You know,
your friends always tell you, yeah, I want to come
out and see you.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Yeah, lighters.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
You know, over time, by the time you reach year five,
you go, they're not coming. You know, year ten, you're like,
they're never coming. At fifteen, I'm like, okay, So at
least this way, especially like my wife's family's all back east,
I don't I don't really do. I don't get out
to the East Coast that often doing stand up, so
at least they'll have something they can watch online. So
at least to the masses, we can do that. I mean,
(29:04):
I have my dry Bar special too, but to be
honest and nothing anti dry Bar. But the fact is
I shot mine during the pandemic. So when you watch
other people's clips versus mine, I have fifty people masked
in my audience versus you know, the three point fifty
that you normally have there having a great time. So
it is different, and dry Bar doesn't really push that
(29:25):
algorithm that much with those I noticed a lot with
those shows.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
So this is.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
To be honest, it's a lot of the same material,
but at least this way people will see it. So
and I found already just with everything I've been starting
to clip out, I'm getting pretty good response from people,
pretty pretty quickly, getting a pretty good reach. So so
again that's all new to me.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I learn as you learn.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Yeah, yeah, well, I mean, if I didn't have Zane
pushing me, I definitely would not have would not be
pushing as far as i'm The other thing that I've
been doing on tour is at the end of the show,
when people come up to the mar table and talk
to us or whatever and stuff. I have stickers.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Do I have a sticker with me? Stickers?
Speaker 1 (30:05):
This sticker my fat fat bonds the sticker. I have
a joke.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
So I say, if you follow me on Instagram, I'll
give you a sticker, and and just from that I
do three an average of about five people per show
follow me on Instagram after that, and so five per show,
and I'm like that's perfect. You know, we just keep
going and once we break a thousand, I know it
has like a snowball effect. After that, they start pushing
(30:31):
more and stuff. So it's just where we're at. But
you gotta find different ways to to get people to
follow you, to get the algorithm to work in your
favor and all that stuff. And it's a lot to
do clips and all that stuff all the time.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
So yeah, I mean, it's got so much more work
than people. I mean, I mean my background is production,
and this is I mean, first of all, to go
vertical is killing. Then I gotta like follow, you know,
I move around, I move on stage, so I'm constantly
trying to find myself in the clip, which is annoying.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
But I was gonna say with the social media stuff.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Though, you know, I'm older than you, so my demographic
of people aren't on social media, so it's kind of
like those that are that are you know, that figured
it out, they're following. But like I noticed for me
right now, certain clips are hitting way harder on Instagram
than certain clips on Facebook that are hitting way harder.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
So it just depends on subject matter.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
I noticed, for one, for sure, on Facebook, the in
terms of longer videos, they're watching those, whereas a little
bit longer ones and by longer, I mean, the difference
between over thirty seconds versus under thirty seconds, just that
mentality of the youth to not want to watch. Because
I'm old, I can say the youth, you know what
(31:54):
I mean, if it's not.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
This, they don't want to they don't want to watch.
They're they're that fast, you know.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Well, what's funny is I'll put clips on Reddit and
I'll put clips on Instagram, and their difference is the same.
Thing is like some will pop on on Reddit, and
then some will pop on Instagram that won't pop on
rend it and save it. With YouTube shorts too, if
I put them on YouTube shorts, some of them amazing
great numbers. Some of them that did well on Instagram
or Reddit or somewhere else don't do well on YouTube shorts.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
So it's weird, and it's you gotta you know, you
gotta keep track bend lee where all that stuff is.
But in the same breath, like even YouTube shorts, I'm
shocked with the numbers I've been getting, Like within twenty
four hours, I'm getting like a thousand to two thousand
hits on some of these clips, three thousand on some
of them. It's just like, really, because I don't. I
don't have a YouTube following, I don't have anything I'm
(32:45):
shy of. I think I'm at ninety three subscribers at
this point, hopefully more by the time the special starts.
But you just don't know who's watching, and you know
what you put in that they want to they want
to see, So it's it's yeah, it's it's like going
back to school and trying to figure it all out
and juggle it all. The one thing, too, this is
interesting that most people don't talk about. I just swung
(33:07):
for the fence and I started clipping on LinkedIn.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
I just thought it's business oriented. This is my business.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
So and I have friends of mine that I'm not
friends anywhere else except LinkedIn, And to be honest, it's
had pretty good reach. Some of the interactions I've gotten
are are not what I expected, because again LinkedIn's not
really know how many people I have I'm connected with
on LinkedIn, but that's actually been You know, you get
one or two followers that wants to fall along, though
(33:40):
they might tell a few, you just don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
So try try it all, is what I guess I'm
trying to say.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
On LinkedIn, Are you doing vertical there too.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Are you doing You're doing verticals there too? Yeah, ok yeah,
but do everything vertical.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
By the time I'm done, I don't want to revisit it,
so I'm just like, all right, just let it do.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Yeah. So and the.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Captioning, oh, I know, at least with the AI, it's
gotten a lot easier.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah, so you know yeah, I mean yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
I had to go from and this this is going
to be inside Baseball for some of you guys. I
had to go from Final Cup Pro Learning I know
all that I learned that stuff to Learning Premiere because
that's what Zaane uses. So we could kind of like
work with files and understand and it was like, oh,
I'm trying to It's like I know some right because
some of those things are similar, but other things I
was like, oh my gosh, this is so much more
(34:31):
work for me.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
So yeah, yeah, So to kind of give you piggyback
on that real quick, I it was just about done
with the special okay. And the system I edit on
is a kind of it was never a real popular system.
If I said it, no one would even know what
I'm talking about. That's how archaic it is.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Tell me, because I probably I might know it Cosa
Blanca costa blank Okay, yeah, yeah, I've only seen it.
I've only seen it once, yes.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Yes, in a museum anyway, But the but he's gone
through bankruptcy. I've recently found out the hard way that
ninety like ninety five percent of the workforce has been terminated.
And anyway, so I'm I'm basically done with the special
I'm working on credits, okay, And I realized there's a
(35:16):
couple of things I need to fix credit wise, ads,
you know whatever. And my system decides to update, and
then it does a complete change of the serial number,
so I can't I don't have access to anything.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Now Luckily I saved.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
I've got a copy saved, you know. So I was like, oh, man,
so I couldn't get a hold of anybody. The guy
who's in charge of it is sick, and the other
guy no. So for four days, I'm in a panic
because I'm like, I got something to do. So in
that panic, I bought a brand new computer and I'm
I'm doing Da Vinci Resolve now, oh okay, and learning
that just as fast as I could. Luckily, Macrosystems got
(35:53):
back with me, set me up with the new codes.
Everything was still there, thank god, was able to finish ship.
So what you see is actually has been edited on
the on the Macrosystems Studio Studio Pro. And then it's
Sara because like everything's Da Vinci now and it is
night and day because the original the system I was
(36:15):
editing on was never set up for the future of
you know, vertical video and everything else. So yeah, so
I've got that learning curve going on myself, trying to
just figure out and this is totally different style of
editing for me.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
So luckily, my son is a very good editor. He's
but he's a.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Premiere, abe premiere and all that good stuff. So he's like, yeah,
between his tutorials and the online tutorials, I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Okay, that's good. By the way too, you'll see my
son in the special. He's great, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
I know, you say something like like Vegas or whatever,
like as the as you're Yeah, yeah, I was. I
was like, oh, he's gonna say something like Vegas. That's cool,
whatever you do whatever, who knowl Yeah, but yeah, I see,
I've tried to do add I've tried to do the
veggie and then Apple's basic whatever the Apples basic one is,
if we're what their basic one is before you get
(37:09):
Final Cut pro and then yeah, now now I have
to learn Premiere and I'm like, oh my gosh, this
is so many to learn.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
And the crazy thing is to everybody's like at a
buddy of mine call yesterday and he goes, hey, you
ever use cap Cut, I'm like, no, but a couple
of my other friends have and they love it.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I mean, yeah, so there's a million things out there
for people. Now. It's it's insane.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
What I went to school for and what I've done for,
you know, thirty plus years. Everyone can do on their
phone or they can do with the little app and it's.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Like that, That's why I became a comic. I can't
complete it.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
So but like, primarily I'm hoping I could do some
specials or help some of my other friends out with
some of their their types of specials.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
That's what I think I'm geared toward.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Doing because like you know, like I said, I we
were talking before the show, you know, I do the
open mics. I record the open mics. A lot of
my clips are out there. I mean in the Phoenix scene,
man you'll see ton of the clips that I've done
for everybody.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
But you know, that's awesome, man.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
A lot of comedy to watch.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
There's there's a that's the thing. There's a lot of
comedy to watch. But everybody's gonna be watching your special
on June seventeenth to seven pm Pacific Standard time. Go
check it out. Brian will be there live on his YouTube.
What's the YouTube again, Brian one more time?
Speaker 2 (38:22):
At comedian Brian Kahatsu.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
At comedian Brian Katsu. I'll put that in the show
on too, so you guys can find it. Come out
watch it. I'm gonna be on. I'm gonna watch it
for sure. I'm excited. This is great. Brian's awesome. If
you haven't, if you haven't even watched your seeing his
other special secret Asian man, first of all, hilarious, you
will love it. Go watch it. There you go, Aha,
there you go.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
I'm always ready with merch.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Yeah, go check it out.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
These are on Spotify or wherever you find your.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Digital I believe they're also on Apple Music all that stuff.
So go check it out and then come on the
seventeenth and watch Brian special. Thank you everybody for coming
thank you Brian for being on the podcast, thank you
for having I have a good one and we'll talk
to you guys soon.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Bye and
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Pas.
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