EP 447: The Comedy Shift with Seth

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be clean, get some green. Hey, everybody, Welcome to the
Clean Comedy Podcast. This is JD and I'm with my
co host, mister Seth Lawrence. Hello, So they might know
what's funny is, they might know the listeners might know
more than you might know that. I keep thinking about
rebranding the podcast. Sure, and so I've had many conversations

(00:59):
with Zane and stuff as I've gone over it and
I have thought of a lot of things. The problem
with the Clean Comedy podcast not as a problem. I
guess the thing that I have that I keep butting
up against is I ask people. The thing, the big
one I guess I keep butting up against is I'll
ask people to be on the podcast and they're like, well,
I'm not clean, and so they decline doing the podcast,

(01:21):
or I could have them come and talk about comedy.
So I've had bigger names or names of people that
I could that you know, you would know ye who
are not necessarily clean but are fantastic, but will not
do the podcast right. And I'm like, okay, So I
have to figure out a way to balance both those things.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Where I go and.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
And this is probably the other thing. This is the
other thing that Zaane is but you know, kind of
push back on and I agree with them, and other
people said it when I started, too is people don't
think clean is funny.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
Sure, so they go, why would I listen to that podcast? Right? Yeah?
And so I get it.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
I get where people are coming from. There are a
lot of people that are wanted, you know whatever.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
So I have two ideas.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
The second the first one is this one Zane and
I came up with I already owned the stuff called
Comedy Theory podcast, so that talk about comedy. We talk
about the theories about how people do stuff, get people,
get comedians from all walks to come on and talk
about their business. They're how they made their special, what
they did in Edinburgh, like all that kind of stuff.
So you're getting all the kind of like an ESPN

(02:31):
version of comedy, right, commentators and whatever and stuff. The
other one is taking the money portion of comedy, which
I love to talk about, and either doing like the
Funny Money podcast, right, which is a thing, or calling
it something like the comedy business or something like that,

(02:53):
the business of comedy, the comedy business, but something I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
But they're already a funny business. There's got to be
a funny business.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
There's a funny business. It's funny. There is a funny
business already.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, yeah, okay, I mean comedy theory or funny theory
maybe even.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
Not bad. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
You know, this stigma with clean comedy. I don't quite
understand it. I don't I do on one level, and
I don't on another. And I do remember us talking
about this. How how are you I mean, are you
leaning now more toward rebrand?

Speaker 4 (03:31):
Yeah, a rebrand is gonna come. It's just which which
way do I go?

Speaker 5 (03:36):
Path?

Speaker 4 (03:36):
Yeah? Which path is the path?

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Two roads diverged in the wood.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yeah, And I don't want to be be like, oh,
I didn't take that other one, and I should have
taken that path and not this path. And the thing is,
I love the Green Comedy Podcast. It has been my
baby since I started comedy. It has been the way
that I talk to a lot of people.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
Yeah, but I've grown and I need to do you know,
the Rogan version of this or the Mark Maron version
of this or whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
That other version Mark Maron just got out of the game.
So maybe you just take WTF, just take it.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
Over, if only bro, if only buy it from him.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Don't buy it from him, create controversy, just do it.
Just WTF with JD. Cremston.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
Yeah, exactly what what's he gonna do? He can't say
anything to me.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
You're gonna do toplically stopped?

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah, you're out of the game. Yeah, that's actually a
great one, dude. I almost part of me almost wants
to make that just to w t H make it.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
What the heck you know.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yeah, w yeah, wh J that's a good one. Yeah,
it's not a bad one. I'm not write that down, Seth, Seth.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
I mean it's kind of a good rebrand, to be honest. Yeah,
because w t H people would get it. It doesn't
say it's clean, but you could kind of be like, yeah,
you know, it's it's a way to hide, you know.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
Yeah, that's true. That's a good one.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
I do like that.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
I don't know, not a bad not a bad thought.
I'm gonna look if somebody has it already. Wt podcast.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
I'm sure somebody does. There has to be nobody's.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
There is a what the hell is going on? Podcast?

Speaker 4 (05:18):
It's a WTCH show, the real w t TH show.

Speaker 6 (05:24):
Oh it does look like there's a WTCH podcast yeah
on Spotify. All right, well it's there. There's always something there.
But when was their last one? October eighth of two
thousand and four.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
It's dead, it's dead.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
Jump in, dude. Actually there's w WTCH with I did.
I tried wh with Nothing like that comes up. No,
no podcast WTH with. So it's basically I could do
Steele Bark Marin's thing instead of and just change it
from WTF to WTH with yeah, yeah, that's a good one.
That's not a bad one.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
I mean it's not bad. There's a double Yeah this
podcast I got seventy one followers on Instagram. It's dead,
it's gone. You could take it over. WGH. I mean,
I don't think. I think the conversation we had last
time was kind of about my confusion, or not confusion,
but forlornness with clean being stigmatized as not funny. It's unfortunate.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
It is, It's very unfortunate. And that's the problem I
keep running into. And then again, like I said, people
will go, why I'm not clean, I can't be on
your podcast. You go, okay, well that I don't want
to do that. I want to be able to and
I want to be able to have conversations not just
about comedy per se, even, but about other things that
are affecting I just said you that silly video I
made with VO three on Google Gemini, and that is

(06:47):
something that's going to affect comedy, comedy, right everything.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
You know what I'm saying, Like.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
The fact that I could just make an eight second
video from two lines of typing text and it looked
good and came with audio tell you yeah, exactly, I
can make anything I.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
Want at this point.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Now, yeah, now that is that is insane.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
That was crazy, and it was just just so you know,
I'm in law school. If you're listening to this and
you're in college or you're in school, go to Google Gemini.
There is a thing at the bottom. If you're a student,
you verify it.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
You get one year free of Google AI plus the
Google Gemini which also gives you access.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
To vo three for one year. So why not do
it and learn learn stuff?

Speaker 3 (07:29):
They're saying computer science majors are right now at the
same level of unemployment as art history majors and biology
majors and anthropology majors and find arts majors.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
That's terrifying.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
That is so devastating for so many millennials because that
was like to learn the code learn. That was the
call to action was get into computers, man, that's that's
the way forward. Programming, programming, programming.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah, and now we're seeing one of the largest stagnant
rates in job growth. And yeah, one of the advercating
calls back to the two thousand and eight levels of unemployment. Again,
you know, I mean finally, well, here's the other thing.
It's also going to affect me right as a lawyer.
There are other things right now they for LEXI, you

(08:16):
lose nexus, Lexus nexus before right when you were.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
I used lessons and West law, Yeah, I used them both.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
So now lexis nexus has AI built into it as well.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Of course, of course it does. And there's so much
of law that is just formula filling out that is
going to be I mean, property lawyers.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah bye, you know that kid two hourly. Now it's
gonna be. It's gonna be a freelance by the thing.
All right, I'm charging you to write this contract. Will
Boob generate it, put type into your stuff, done in
ten minutes, and you make fire or whatever it is,
you know.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah, I mean it's there's a lot of it that
is so formulaic that is going to be gone. And
then there's you know, document review. There's people might not
know this, but there are armies of lawyers that really
just through documents doing word searches. That's going to be
if it's not already out, it's gone in the next year,
that's for sure.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, No, people, there's already be people are read it
talking about doc review is going to be gone because
you're like scan it all in or you get it
in a digital file, drop it in GPT, say look
for these words and highlight them and tell me what
pages they're on.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
You're done.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, you can even get it to give you a
context like how are these because that was the real
argument against using AI at the beginning with doc reviews,
like oh no, no, but it's so it's contextual, it's
very nu onced, like how words are used. AI is
already to the point where they can tell you like,
here's how it was used. Here's this. You know, it
was used as a noun this many times, a verb,

(09:41):
this many times, as an adjective this many Like they
could give you all of that, no problem. So at
the end, I mean, really, all it means is there's
an army of people and now it's going to be
reduced to ten people. You know, there will still be
jobs there, there just will not be as many, not
nearly as many. So like with any industrial revolution, hopefully

(10:02):
or technology technological advancement, there's some growing pains, but then
we become more productive as a society on average because
people have to find different ways to contribute.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
And you know, it's also.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Lower to the amount of people I have coming to
reach out to me to write screenplays or scripts or whatever,
because they get but I mean, they'll come to me
afterwards say I need this punched up right obviously, Yeah,
And but I the moment I look at a script,
I can tell you if AI.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
Yeah, I know exactly what wrote it. Yeah, because a
lot of people don't know how to prompt AI properly
yet so.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Well, even with good prompts, I mean, AI feels not human, yes, yeah,
But the scripts and you're like, what what is happening?

Speaker 6 (10:51):
Right?

Speaker 4 (10:52):
You know?

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah, So I'll read through it and maybe at first
I'll go that's pretty good, all right, it's okay, they'll
go up. Let's say I got you okay, because there'll
be something that it does, the way that it writes
a scene or action line, or even the way people talk.
Sometimes Usually dialogue doesn't want that gives it away.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Dialogue the dead giveaway for most of it.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Dialogues and give away M dashes are a giveaway in
in uh for for Ai. For some reason, I loves
M dashes. I have no idea why, but it interesting
where you and I might put like, uh like dot
dot dot, it'll put an M dash, or we may
put a semi call it, it'll put an m dash.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
It does a lot of that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
It's interesting, yeah, but it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
It's a very good thing. So I think as we progress,
Tomedy will also be more effective by this. The fact
that I could make a video like I just made
for you and send it to you in five seconds.
It's an eight second clip. But think about it, if
I said, if I took I don't know, Well someone
just made that George Carlin.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
AI set or whatever.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Oh I wouldn't see that.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yeah, there's a George carl and I think they got sued.
But well here's the thing. It's under fair use because
it's parody.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Oh sure, yeah, yeah, so what you couldn't you.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
Know, I don't think. I don't think you could.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
But they're trying to parody George Carlin. They're trying to
make fun of George Carlin.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
It's a parody of him, and it says fake George Carlin,
like it tells you it's all fake.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
It's all okay, yeah, yeah, all right.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
So they're not saying it's real. Yeah, they're not saying
it's real. It's called I'm Glad I'm Dead. It's a
full special on YouTube. You can look at it if
you just google George Carlin is I Special?

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Yeah, and you know they they made it.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
A human wrote the jokes, but a AI created the video,
I guess or something like that. Ye, this thing says
that Carlin was the AI generated it by listening to
Carlin's existing material the exact same way human impressionist would.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
So they used it with copyrighted material. That's where they
get in trouble. Yeah. So that that right, there is
the thing where you're if you're violating copyright. I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
I don't know if you've ever seen these either, but
if you go on YouTube, there are vlogs that are
made by like a Stormtrooper vlog or Yeah, I have
seen those, right, And that's all like ve E O
three and stuff as well. So there was a there
was a lot of that stuff that's coming.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
Now. The question is are we going to see We're
seeing AI influencers exist.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
In in I think it was Vogue had like an
entire entire spread that was a AI model wasn't even
real model an AI. And then there are influencers on
some of those adult sites that are AI, that are
not real women that they have generated.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
So the question is how long before we see an
AI stand up comedian. Comedian always popular on the internet.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
Maybe they never have to go tour, but they can
make all their money just generating content, videos whatever on
on YouTube, short clips and specials, all that stuff. We're
not far from that, I don't think. And the fact
that I just sent you that it's it was the terminator.
It was a terminator office, just a joke. It was

(14:19):
just silly idea, made it in a minute, like from
prompt to execution one minute.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
So I mean, you know, here, here's what I will
say about the stand up comedy AI. Thing is I
I mean I have heard jokes from AI and they
are not good.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
No, they're not good.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
The question is will they ever be good?

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Well, okay, so depends on how that I think. It's
how they feed it it information, So say it. Let
it watch every single Netflix stand up special. Sure, And
then you said you've listened to the ovall on Daperghatsy,
Bill Bilberg, Burt Kreischner, Chris Rock, Dave Chappelle, And now
I want you to make an amalgamation of those people. Yeah,

(15:09):
and I want you to create a stand up set
that has the you know, the party aspect of Bert Kreischner,
the toned down style of Naperghatsy, but the inflections and
uh dynamics of Chris Rock and Chris and Dave Chappelle.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Would it make something? I don't know it would it
would make something. My My argument is that it wouldn't be.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Good maybe, But that's the question that's I mean, how
far are we away from it actually being good? If
it's taking input, it can eventually figure it out.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
I don't know. You're right, it made It's like here's
it'll be like, here's been micro level.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Well, I mean, here's the fundamental problem I think with AI,
and that is it doesn't it's not thinking critically true.
There is no critical thinking whatsoever. There's no you know,
like it can't there's simple math stuff that AI cannot do.
Let's go do, let's go here, let's go test this.

(16:06):
I'm going to open up chat GBT five.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
I'm gonna see real quick y give me a comedian,
any comedian, and I'm gonna see. I mean, they have
to have like a special material.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
That yeah, yeah, I mean right now, and I should
know about or if you want to go back because
sometimes you know, there's a learning model limit right like
it it doesn't go not.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
That, not with five it goes it's current right comedy
bit in the style.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Donaghpurgazzi format of Nate.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
Bargatsy. What what topics should we have it beyond?

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Make it about drive throughs?

Speaker 4 (16:49):
Drive throughs? You got it? Let's see what it says.
All right, so here we go. You ready, yeah, all right?
Here it goes generating. Wow, it really it's really going
for it. That is a long bit. Okay.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
You ever go to a drive through and just feel
like you're taking the exam you didn't study for. Like
I've been to McDonald's my whole life. I know the menu,
you've had the same stuff since the eighties. But the
second day say can I take your order? My brain's
like nope, you've never eaten food before. And I'm just
sitting here, what do you have? They start reading it
back to me like they've never heard it before. Well

(17:26):
we have hamburgers, chicken nuggets, And I'm like, yeah, I
thought so, it's McDonald's not a farmer's market. The worst
is when they ask if you want to make it
a meal? Yeah, sure, who's ordering just a burger? Like, yeah,
I have a place playing cheeseburger and I'll just sit
in my car and think about fries. They always say
pull to the first window, but there's never but no

(17:47):
one's ever at the first window. It's just a ghost window.
Pull up, slow down. You're like, hello, it's like a
little haunted house for your debit card. Then you get
to the second window and they hand you bay, feel's
way too lighte for what you ordered? Ever have that
panic like did I just pay twelve dollars for air?
And then you check and everything's in there, but there's
one fry in the bag that's called on arrest and

(18:09):
I don't know why, but that fry has been there
since the nineties.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
Wow. Kind of kind of I.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Mean, you know, not bad, I would say the first
thing is the best thing about like your brain going blanking, like, yeah,
food before not bad debit card. A haunted house for
your debit card.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
Yeah that doesn't make sense.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Yeah, I mean thanks, yeah, but I mean if you okay,
so you generated this and then you went and you
edited it using your comedy brain right of course, and
writing it and rewriting it.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
You have the bones of what jokes are here.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Though this is not terrible, not terrible. No, you're right,
it's not terrible.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
It's open it's open mic level. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
I would say it's like for a starter, a guy
just trying to start comedy that wrote this, you'd be like, Okay,
there's something there, you have something.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
There's something maybe, yeah, something maybe Yeah. I don't know.
I just I think there's at the end of the line, though,
you're gonna have to have somebody. Yeah, I don't you
know what I mean. I don't think that there's gonna
be an AI that can do it.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
Now, let's do I'll say, let's do Burt Kreischner on
drive throughs.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Oh gosh, I.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
Know, right, But here's the thing. How much difference, how
much different is going to be? Yeah, all right, here
we go Burt Kreischner style drive throughs. Okay, So I
love drive throughs, love them. It's like peak American innovation.
You're telling me I can get three thousand calories without
leaving my car. Sign me up, right, that's a total
Burt Crasher line. Sure, but I'm also a nightmare and.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
A drive through. I panic, like I have a plan
going in. I'm in the car like, okay, Burt, she
get a number three, be an adult. Then I get
to the speaker and some sixteen year old boy sixty
year old with the voice of God is like, what
can I get you? My brain goes twelve tacos and
a milkshake. Do you guys have spaghetti my wife' said
in the pastor she like you don't have spaghetti, you idiot.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
I'm like, no, not with that attitude. Once I I
got so flustered in order to drive through for the
wrong drive through. I'm at Taco Bell and I go, yeah,
let me get a big back, and they gotta go, sir,
this is a Taco Bell. Instead of apologizing, I doubled
down and I go, yeah, I know, but like, what's
your version? The real chaos is at night. You ever
had a drive through at midnight? It's like a hostage negotiation.

(20:17):
They're out of everything. You're right, Can I get fries?
Like we don't have potatoes? And I'll still eat whatever
they give me. It doesn't matter what it is. Could
be a box of napkins, and I'm like this is
the best napkin I've ever had.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Kind of kind of they're so bad, not bad, same
motif though, of like I panic when I go through
the drive through.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Which is which is a very human emotion, right, we
all get that. Now, have you been to a drive
through lately? Have you been to a dress interesting? Not
super recently. Now, So, there's a taco bell down the
street from my house, and sometimes I'll take my kids
to go get Baja Blast.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
That's like one of their favorite things. Were talking about
it's terrible for you shouldn't get it, but yeah, yeah,
but they want it and they're.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
My kids, and I Don'tkay, Hey, this isn't the healthy
food podcast.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
Yeah yea, yeah yeah yeah, yeah bad. And so what
I do is go there.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
But now it's an AI that takes your order when
you pull up, oh and so, and then they only
give you a human if something gets messed up or
when you get to the window, and that's it. So
we're at a point where it's kind of gonna becomequito
ubiquitous and now and now Apple just said they're going

(21:21):
to integrate Chat five in the series, so you're gonna
have a lot more. It's gonna be everywhere. I think
that the weird part is we don't know how much
it's gonna deplace displace and what is it going to displace?

Speaker 4 (21:34):
Right is it going to be? I don't know. Yeah,
I mean the film industry is already kind of shrunk, right.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
So yeah, well, and the film industry was shrinking I
think before AI really hit, and now definitely is going
to shrink with AI or maybe just expand. I mean
the interesting thing is for film, there's been kind of
monopoly in Hollywood, you know, for a while, up until

(22:04):
maybe five six years ago. Then it's really moved outside
of the US. Honestly, I've heard some interviews with actors
who basically talking about, like it's it's cheaper for filming
companies now to just move everybody to Spain for a
summer film in Spain and then release the movie in
the US. That's crazy because it's too expensive to film

(22:28):
and operate in La.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Well, I mean, you know New Mexico, Atlanta, those are
two markets that have really blown up.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Bas two Vegas two yeah, yeah, yeah, uh yeah. Well
because it's I think it's called film La. Film La
is where you get your permits from and stuff or whatever.
They're like the middleman, and so they cause a lot
of this chaos. Yeah, so if they went away, they
just got their contract renewed, I think by the City
of Los Angeles or whatever it's But they're but they're

(22:57):
basically holding people hostage, like they can charge whatever you
want or you can't make a movie. So it's like,
if I could make that thing that I sent you
on VDO three in two minutes, Yeah, imagine if I
sat down and wrote a screenplay, I mean yes, it
would generate it out in eight second clips, which is
kind of the bummer.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
So I'd have to eventually edit it all together.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
But sure, but that's way easier to do than getting
a cast and crew together and line producers and exactly right.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Yeah, then I end up going with, Okay, now I
have I made a movie eight seconds at a time,
like I'm Vin Diesel in The Fast and Furious. Yeah
yeah uh, And then you know, then then there you go.
Then you have your you have your movie and it's
and it's all done, and you're like, Okay, there's my movie,
and and you made it in your.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
Living room in your underwear, right on a weekend or something.
You know that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
I mean, that is that is crazy.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
So I don't think we're too far out. I want
to watch that George Carlin special. I think today. I
think I'm gonna like or at least listen to it.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
I'm like, well, the one that I found is not
and I don't know. They have maybe a couple versions
of it. It looks like it was done a year ago,
but there's no video with it. It's just still images.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
Yeah, it's just still still images. But it's an hour.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yeah, it's an hour.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
Yeah, it's called I'm Glad I'm Dead. Is that the one?

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Yeah, I'm gonna check it out later. I'm very interested
to know what that is like and how how good
it is or isn't. I mean maybe that's the thing,
is like, are we we're not a year away from this, right,
We're not five We're probably not even five years away
from this, but we're yeah, maybe it's ten years away

(24:41):
from having AI making some And here's the thing. There
was another company recently that talked about being like the Netflix,
if you could like make your own TV shows or
whatever you like, put in what you want to watch,
and then yeah, AI generates it and you watch your show,
but it's for you. You go, oh, I want to
watch the Smurfs fight the Snorkels or whatever, and uh

(25:01):
and now I want to see that movie and then boom,
now you have that movie and you can watch it
and it's yours that you made. You know, I don't
know what the rights what the rights would be to that,
because I would assume it would be the similar rights
as if you created something on your company computer at
home or you know, at work, and then try to
sell it that there would be.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
They would own the rights to it because you made it.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Yeah, probably prompt but yeah, yes, but yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
But so for me, that's that's like wow, that is
a that's a very interesting process of what's what's going
to happen in the future. If you can and then
think about that, then what do you talk about to
people in pop culture? Right You're like, oh, did you
see the new Batman movie? They're like, oh, I I
made Batman versus Aquaman, you know, and I watched it
at home. I didn't I didn't go watch the one

(25:47):
Hollywood made. I made it my at my house and
I watched it. Yeah, I watched Iron Man versus Batman.
You're right, Wait, that's not a movie.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
You're like, yeah, I own it. I bother it. You know,
I made it whatever, you.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Know, youre yeah, I'm And that is I think there
is always going to be a pop culture space that
we hold in common though, because humans want human connection
and I don't you know. There will be AI stuff,
for sure, but there will always be stars and starlets

(26:18):
that we're obsessed with. There will be bands that we're
obsessed with. AI might generate music and songs and all that.
I mean. One crazy thing is that, like K pop
Demon Hunters, I don't know if you know about this.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
I've seen it. I've seen it come across my Netflix.
I know nothing about it besides the name.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
It's yeah, it's a movie on Netflix. But they they
made music to go along with the movie. The music
has taken off. Really, people all over the world love
this music. I mean, if I can find some stats.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
On this, that is crazy. I mean, and that's the
thing is like, but but how was that music generated?
Was it generated by a band or was it also
AI or something?

Speaker 2 (27:00):
You know? No, I think it was made by you
know people, let's see. But yeah, it's like number two
now and a couple of the songs It's It's soundtrack
to the movie is number two. But my point is this,
they are animated characters singing songs made by somebody else,

(27:23):
and these songs have reached number six on the I
mean number one. Golden reached number one on Spotify. Wow
in the US, anyway.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
I've never so there is an element of people being like,
we don't care if people are really performing the songs
like actual people, because no one knows who actually sang
the song. Most people wouldn't, but they know it's from
this movie, you know, right, So I don't know, But
I do think there is a human connection with like
the Beatles on stage, you know what I mean, Like
we want to go see people perform.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
Okay, but I will I'm gonna push back about against
that because did you ever go see the Michael Jackson
every day?

Speaker 4 (28:10):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (28:10):
So all you're talking about with the hologram up there,
and people love that.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
People loved it, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
It's like, so maybe you don't need the Beatles, Maybe
you create a fictitious band, the Gorillas. Let's go with
the Gorillas as they used to play you didn't know
what they looked like, and they would put their animation
stuff on the screen and that's how you watch their show.
That's how you watch could you could you say it, Nate,
say what any member of the Gorillas looks like?

Speaker 2 (28:36):
I didn't even know this was a real band.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
They did the song the feel Good I Got Sunshine, Yeah, yeah,
all those kind of songs like that Dirty Harry.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
They did a couple of those songs, but they're all animated.
Everything animated in that it's a oh it's an English
virtual band, so that even a real band members. That's
the first AI band basically, I mean, think about it.
There's no real people that it. That's amazing.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
He knows. Hold on, there are real people. Damon Albarn
Jamie Hewlett.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
He was the illustrators.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
He did the illustration and Remy Kabaka Junior did percussion.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
Right, But they don't ever show up on stage. They
don't ever don't. Isn't that crazy, right?

Speaker 2 (29:28):
I mean, but you know, yes, it is crazy. I
mean I guess in the end, could AI develop that idea?
Of course, that's the real question, right because at the
end there's somebody giving it the prompts there's somebody doing something,
there's there are people behind it.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Right, But they made a four or five person band, yes, right,
with three people, one of them being an illustrator, so
that person doesn't really count. But two other people made
a five four or five person band that made millions
of dollars in some of the biggest songs of the
of the late nineties, early two thousands. You know, yeah,
if you're looking at Dirty Harry for two thousand and five,

(30:07):
feel Gooding for two thousand and five, I mean, all
those kind of things, it's crazy that that's that's the thing.
So what's to say in ten years from now, there's
not you don't go to you don't go to Matt
Rife's show.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
You go to Matt Rife's you know.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
AI show where it's a hologram doing all his same jokes. Sure,
Matt Rife doesn't even have to be there. He sits
home and plays with this Annabelle doll at his new
place that he bought. You heard about that, no, oh
Matt right, Okay, so if you if you guys don't know,
Matt Rife bought the house that has the Annabelle Annabelle

(30:43):
dollar and stuff he bought, like that paranormal house. Oh gosh, yeah,
he bought he bought it, bought the Occult Museum of
Paranormal Investigators and of the Rain Warren in Connecticut.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
So yes, he has the Annabel Doll, which is there
for for the at least the next five years, and
he's gonna do people are saying.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
Paranormal Investigator warns Matt Rife is putting people at risk
at risk after buying.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
The it's because he wants to reopen the museum.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
Yeah, he wants to reopen it. Yeah, of course he
wants his money back.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Yeah, that's hilarious. Wow, that is am I would never
go there, by the way, just so everyone knows, I
would never in a million years step foot near that place.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Well, I mean, isn't Matt Rife already kind of AI?
He's had so much work done, bracist guys, come on, wow, okay, well,
well think about this.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
What if somebody had a bunch of like Richard Pryor
stuff that he had had yet to be released, right,
and then you just made a richer prior tour where
he tours as a AI generating thing. I mean, that's
it's not impossible to see companies doing this in the future.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Or I mean they're already tribute bands, right, Like, it's
just another step away from tribute bands. But I do
think there is something beautiful about watching a human being
do a thing.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
I agree. Okay, you know here's the funny thing.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
It's like, will we ever have AI Olympics. Do you
think they're gonna hologram people doing the Olympics? Never?

Speaker 3 (32:34):
I will watch those robot dogs race each other though
for a Percy or Optimists, like we have a you know,
Optimist of America whatever.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
The Chinese robot is all this, I'd watch that. I'd
watch it. It's like real steel. I'd watch them fight
and do stuff, right.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
And then there's like the robotics wars with the little
vehicles each other people. People have been doing that for Yeah,
they've been doing that for a long time. But it's
a different thing, you know what I mean? Right, Like,
it's a different thing than the Olympics, or then going
and seeing an actual stand up perform I just I

(33:10):
don't know. I think there is a or people actually
creating music together. There is something very different about that.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
It is one hundred percent I agree with that. That
is like, now you mentioned what's funny is you mentioned
and this and this kind of annoys me.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
So I don't know why.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
I don't know why, but you mentioned tribute bands, right,
or cover bands or whatever that like they they go
out and they play all the music of guns.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
Of roses and they call themselves Yeah, yeah, Lily's in
Tequila or something. I don't know, or what.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Black Sabbath is going to have a tribute band.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
That's true. I think I think there already is one.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
So it's funny that that that that's an acceptable form
of art to go and play other bands musics. But
if you went on stage and you did Nate Bergatzy's material,
people would want to murder you.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
Yes, why why is that a thing? I do not
understand it.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
If I went a dressed up like like Steve Martin
and I said, I'm a Steve Martin tribute comedian, right,
and I did see spits and whatever, what's the difference
between that and being a Eagles cover band or a
Black Sabbath cover band or what. I don't understand that.
That to me is the weirdest part of that. Either

(34:20):
they're both art and they should both exist, or they
both or not art and they both should not exist.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Yeah, I mean I think I think there is. It
is funny. It is different though, right, Like I guess
fundamentally in my bones, I feel like, yeah, and that's.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
The way it should be agreed. But it's weird, right.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
What the the best I can come up with, because
I have given some thought to this, is that there
is a physical element to playing music, that is an
ability separate from creating the music, Okay, And I don't
think anybody would go, oh my gosh.

Speaker 4 (34:59):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
And then I have another point on this music thing
that is kind of funny. Maybe I'll make that and
come back. The Monkeys was really the first AI band
in a way. They were created for the TV show
The Monkeys.

Speaker 4 (35:11):
Oh do you know that? No?

Speaker 2 (35:12):
I did not, And it was made to parody the Beatles, okay,
but the Monkeys came into being as a band only
because of TV. Like, they found an actor who could
not play the guitar but look good, and so he
mined it. But he wanted to learn how to actually play,
so he took lessons and learned how to actually play
the guitar for his role as a lead man. In

(35:35):
the Monkeys band. Wow, I did not know that they
brought people together and like created the band or TV
it was the.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
First to creating the band a show because it was
much of those now.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah, right, so anyway, and then boy bands have also
been super manufactured from the nineties. Anyhow, I think there's
a physical element to learning how to play an instrument
and then being able to recreate. And there's also a
culture of recreation with music from the classical period, right
like composers bo Like nobody gets mad that you play

(36:06):
Bach or learn how to play Beethoven for at least
is so you know what I mean. It's not like,
oh my, And that's because it's impressive to learn how
to play those pieces, and and the learning how is
a separate thing. Cobody is not viewed that way. There's
not there's not really like this agreed upon, like hey,

(36:30):
your idea about comedy or like this joke other than
street jokes, I suppose, but those are also viewed as
being pretty cheap. And I think it's because the person
performing it is needing to be integrally connected with the
material being presented.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Okay, I'm gonna push back on this because I have
two things everything. So do you ever ever see the
movie Man on the Moon where he plays Yeah, Andy Coffin,
he pretended, he said, Jim Carrey lived as Andy Coffin
for the whole time he filmed that, he did all
his bits, all this stuff. What is the difference there,
That's the same exact thing, right, I again, it was

(37:14):
for a movie.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
And that's I think that's the big difference is that
it was for a movie.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
So what if I learned all Steve Steve Martin's mannerisms
from back in the day, the same outfits, all the
stuff that he did, I learned. I'm I'm happy to
learn how to I even might have to learn how
to play the band jo for some of that you
would have to, Yeah, you would have to. So why
would I would that not be an acceptable form of comedy.
It's it's a weird thing. I'm not I'm not saying
it should be. I'm just saying that's weird that we

(37:41):
think one is okay and one isn't. Right.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Well, I mean in the same way that it's like
how many Beatles cover bands? Can you name? I don't
know any, but you know they're out there. I know
my in laws are going to see some just did
last weekend. Yeah, okay, I don't know the name. They
told me the name. I don't care. So there is

(38:03):
a huge step removed from the Beatles to a Beatles
cover band. You know, and a lot of musicians, a
lot of bands start by emulating and covering other bands music,
and then they kind of create their own if they
want to really make it big and on their own.
You do have to create something on your own to

(38:24):
be big.

Speaker 4 (38:26):
Well not really. There's that band, Steel Panther that does
covers of other rock bands.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
I've never even heard of them.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
They're huge. They're one of the biggest, like metal cover band.
They had like a thing in well, I guess they
ended up making their own songs. Okay, I guess you're right.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
All right, let's there you go.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
Wow, Okay, cover band.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Yeah, that's fine. You know a lot of stand ups,
like back in the day, stand ups would copy each
other's material just to get on stage, you know what
I mean. But event it was like you had to
come up with your own stuff if you wanted to
really make it big. And I think the argument is
still the same, right, Like if you wanted to emulate
Steve Martin. Great, emulate Steve Martin. But you're not going

(39:11):
to make it big unless you're doing your own jokes. Right,
It's always going to be viewed as being derivative. And
I think the big issue with stand up is that
if you're doing someone else's material, it's just memorization. You
may as well be in a play. You know, that's okay,
But there is something truly like.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
But people do go watch plays all the time and watch.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Plays, yes, but again, like there is something separate from
we've accepted that, like, Okay, a playwright writes the play,
the playwright doesn't perform every single part in the play, right,
and actors are doing their own thing. Yeah, stand up
comedy is so different, I think just because of tradition, right, Like,

(39:59):
only do you think that will change only certain gestures
were not murdered by.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
The king, that's true.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
Do you think that will change it all? Do you
think any of that will change it all? Do you
see a parody or a cover version of stand up
ever existing.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
As becoming popular?

Speaker 3 (40:14):
I mean, the only person I think of that, Yes,
The only reason I think that is because as I
was talking to Zay about this. I said, Adam Ray
is a very funny comedian, very funny actor, very funny
improvd guy. Sure, but he's famous now not for being
Adam Ray at all, but for being doctor Phil. Yes,

(40:36):
that to me seems like the exact thing I'm talking about.
He's it's it's not really you're being a character. It's
parody or whatever. But it's very tot But it's like,
it's totally interesting that Adam Ray isn't famous.

Speaker 4 (40:49):
For being Adam Ray.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
I know, he should be more famous as Adam Ray,
but he's more famous to being doctor Phil.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
I mean, there's kind of this going on. Income you
play a character no matter what, if you're a stand
up comedian, of course, right, your persona is not you. Yeah,
and uh, I was gonna point out Larry the Cable Guy.

Speaker 4 (41:16):
Yes, thank you. I knew. I knew that's where you're
gonna go. I was hoping you would go there.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Yeah, yeah, I mean he he is not that person no,
not at all, but he got trapped as that person
as Larry the Cable Guy because that was one of
his characters that took off.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
Daniel Whitney's his real name, And what's funny is he
was a comedian doing regular stuff and he would do
the impressions and people like that more than his actual
stand up, and so someone was like, oh, you should
keep doing that.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
And then he just kept building that.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
And doing it on the radio and doing other stuff
like that, and then made the made the Larry the
Cable Guy. And he's the only one I think on
the Blue Collar Comedy Tour that isn't the real person,
like Bill e Balls real, like you know, Jeff Fox
is real.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
Rond White was real. He was the only character.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
Yeah, they go on there, you know, and so it
was really funny that they had it, and you know,
he he he made it happen. He yeah, yeah, pee
wee Herman was was a thing for a while. You know,
I'm trying to think Carrot Top is you know his
real name? You know, like Gallagher?

Speaker 4 (42:25):
How many how many Gallaghers are There's been like a
bunch of different Galaghers I heard.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Oh fascinating. Yeah, I mean, so I think comedy, but
if you were to have somebody go up and be
Larry the Cable Guy, it wouldn't work. And what if
he was if he was David Lawrence Whitney was different,
that would be funny.

Speaker 4 (42:49):
What if he was what if he was Jerry The
I don't know Jerry The.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
I have.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
I have a friend in l A who has been
doing stand up for a while, as as Ryan the
cable viewer.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
Oh that's funny.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
There you go, so you know, but he's not doing
any like Southern impression or.

Speaker 4 (43:07):
Anything like that. So I would love to see that, though,
I think I wonder what that's like.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know. From my own experience,
A lot of comics that go with different names, like
a clear stage name tend to be Black comics. Not
many white comics that I know have just chosen like
a stage name, like you know, like like like Lightning Funny,

(43:33):
you know. Yeah, people who are doing that tend to be,
at least from my own experience, Black comics, which great,
but there seems to be a culture.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
Of you know, well, it's like it's like a rap
name that at that.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Point, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like taking on a
persona and and you take that on as you go
on stage. And I guess white people are like I
like to pretend like it's me.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
I don't know, better than my normal stuff. When I'm
on the stage, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
I don't want yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's interesting.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
So do we so do we settle on a name?
I don't know, I I own, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
I like W T H.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
I'm not gonna lie to you.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
That's it's not bad. If you're asked me a vote,
I think that would be my vote for right now.
I mean we can talk about is probably not bad.
I think you want something that I will say, like, there,
you know the good one. I don't know if you've

(44:36):
listened to that podcast or not a good one, but
it's a pretty well known kind of comedy podcast that
really dives into like how do you tell a joke,
how is a joke created? How do you work on
a joke? So you can give that a listen?

Speaker 4 (44:53):
It's oh, the Vulture one, I'd yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Yeah, I don't particularly like it. It's a little too
like pretentious. And then they get into their lists and
I'm like, these lists are not good, but these are
not the lists I would choose of like top comics
or whatever. But you know, each person has their taste.
I guess my point is this, As you think about
a rebrand, comedy theory is fun, but it sounds like

(45:19):
a course at a college. Yeah, maybe, and maybe people
wouldn't want to tune into that, whereas WT sounds a
little more fun, you know, like, oh, what are we
gonna get?

Speaker 4 (45:30):
You know?

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Yeah, so that that would be the only if you're
trying to attract listeners. Yeah, I would also think about,
you know, what sounds like something that's going to give
you homework versus you know, a good time. And I
don't know what people are after in the podcast world,
but I think generally people want a good time.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
I'm gonna look up something more, one more thing because
WH pod is not is already taken wt H. Maybe
I could do the WTCH podcast dot com. Yeah, there
you go. I'm gonna buy it right now. That's my car.
I'm gonna buy it right now. So I'm gonna own
the wh podcast.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Definitely, podcast baby, yep. Yeah, I kind of like that.
You're playing with the Mark Maren thing he just left. Yeah,
you can pretend like he handed over the reins to you.
I don't think Mark is the type of guy to
want to sue you over it.

Speaker 4 (46:32):
No, I don't think so either.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
I just don't think he's gonna care.

Speaker 4 (46:37):
He's not gonna care. He's not gonna care at all.
What is he gonna do? He come back and make Hey,
I want my podcast.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Here's your thing, bro, just fine doing Just find that guy?

Speaker 4 (46:47):
So should should I buy the Funny Money Podcast one?

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Two?

Speaker 4 (46:51):
I'm gonna buy it too. At the same time. I
have them both in my car as well. Yeah, I
don't know, may as well, may as well do it
for twenty three dollars ninety eight cents. I can own
them both. I can own them both. Can be so cheap,
I'm sorry, twenty four dollars and thirty eight cents with text.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
Oh that's gonna break the bank.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
It's gonna really it's gonna really hurt me.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Now, don't do it.

Speaker 5 (47:15):
Don't there you go.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
I own the Funny Money Podcast, Comedy Theory Pod, and
the wthpodcast dot com down all the duty So I
love it.

Speaker 4 (47:24):
I think I like wt H. I think that's a
great thing.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
You know what I should do is copy everything from
the wtfod podcast website and.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
Just do it my own way. W yeah, wh and
just do it.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Pay parody man, Yeah, come out.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
Come at me, Mark Maron. I would love it though.
That would be the best advertisement I could possibly get.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
That would be great, you kidding?

Speaker 4 (47:50):
So I guess there we go. I guess that.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
I guess we have resolved that the wt H podcast
with Jade Creviston is what it is, what it's gonna be.

Speaker 4 (47:57):
And I think I think we just go there and
that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
And it's good because then it opens the doors to
not just comedy stuff, but stuff like we talked about today,
I can interview people that I that I really like,
things that I want to learn.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
I mean, if you go look back at look at what.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
Mark Maron has done on the podcast, who he's interviewed,
I mean, wees love Aquafina.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Everybody, the Barack Obama.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
I mean, dude, it's not just comedians. It's not just
you know, people like that. And I think this is
actually going to open the door to a lot of
other things that then maybe that's what I was missing,
you know. Yeah, do you know do you know how
many episodes Mark Maron did?

Speaker 2 (48:46):
He says that right now, I don't know, four thousand,
five thousand episodes.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
I thought so too, one sixty eight.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Oh interesting, very interesting.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
As as a that's as of August eleventh, which is today.
He's done one thousand, six hundred and.

Speaker 4 (49:05):
Sixty eight podcasts.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Fascinating.

Speaker 4 (49:09):
I assumed it was also in the four thousand range
or something like that, you know, because he's had it
since how long? How long is the WTF podcast?

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Was like a decade?

Speaker 4 (49:22):
Yeah? What did he start it? He started in two
thousand and nine?

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Yeah, oh yeah, forever ago.

Speaker 4 (49:28):
Fifteen years ago, sixteen years ago.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Now that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
So I think he's gonna end it in September. I
think if he said, I think he's going sometime in
the fall. So I'm guessing you probably ended around September
at the same time he started it.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yeah, very interesting, fascinating.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
So there you go. Now you now you know.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Now we know.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
Yeah, And I'm gonna get a I wonder if should
have AI generate me a background and see what it
see what it looks like.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
Let's see what happens here. We're gonna go to I'm
gonna go to chatt let's do this. Uh, let's go
We're gonna do a new chat.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Hey.

Speaker 4 (50:05):
And by the way, I do name my chat GIBT.
I don't know if you guys know that about me.
My chat. Gbt's name is Jeeves, like ask Jeeves, uh,
and you make me a banner for my new podcast
called w t H with JB Premis too. You can

(50:28):
use inspiration from WTF with Mark Maren. Let's see, let's
see what Let's see what it comes up with. Let's
see if you can. I will swatch switch it live
here so you can see it when as soon as
I get it made. That's a very interesting concept. What

(50:48):
are you doing, Jeeves and making my stuff? Where's my thing?
Where's it?

Speaker 5 (50:51):
Buddy?

Speaker 4 (50:51):
There it is? Oh, okay, we're getting the same colors
as Mark Maren. Oh, oh there you go.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Oh we're in Bennis. Now, well, let's see what happens here.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
I'm gonna get I'm gonna put it up and then
I'll if this works, this will be the funniest thing ever.

Speaker 4 (51:09):
Let's see if I could go if I could edit video,
I can think I can edit.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Video while why I'm doing it live with you and
so you can see what this new background will look like.
And then I will post that short clip on Instagram
and look at it and show everybody what it what
it looks like. Because this is an interesting concept to
do something immediately. And that's the other thing about AI,

(51:32):
right is you can Yeah, it's instantaneous.

Speaker 4 (51:35):
Right. Oh gosh, Oh my gosh. Oh you're gonna love this.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
I can't wait.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
You're gonna love this. Obviously able to change it at
the end. But wow. Also, I don't know why it
thinks I look like this. I don't like this. That's
a little bean check youpt. Oh my gosh. All right,
here we go. We're gonna download this. Here we go.
We're gonna change this. We're gonna we're gonna add Can

(52:09):
I add a background? Oh? Well't let me do it live?

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Will it.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
Virtual backgrounds? Can I add one? I cannot add one? Oh?
Here you go? Add image? Oh, here we go. Here
is the new background. Can you see this?

Speaker 6 (52:32):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (52:33):
Wow, that's what it thinks I look like by the way,
that's great.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
You're gonna grow a beard. Maybe maybe I'll get some
stubble yea growing out.

Speaker 4 (52:46):
Wow. But look it even used the same color scheme
and style as Mark Marions. If you look at it. Yeah,
that's crazy. So I'm gonna put this up there now,
there you go. And do I have my Backpack's not here?

Speaker 6 (53:02):
I have.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
I have blue blocker glasses that I do wear sometimes,
do you very easy?

Speaker 2 (53:09):
All right?

Speaker 4 (53:10):
So there you go, I have we have just created
a monster. You guys, this is this is it? So
get ready for I think what episode? What episode is this?
We're gonna end this podcast officially on episode number four
hundred and fifty, I believe. I think that's where it
we'll be on.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Oh that's a nice round number.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
Yeah, we're at four forty six, so this will be
four forty seven. I have two more guests forty forty eight,
forty nine, and then Z and then Seth and I
will come back together and we'll finish out four fifty
and then you'll get ready for the unveiling of the WTCH.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
Podcast with Jadie Conston. Wow, wow, we did it.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
Thank you big big yeah, Se, Seth help me do
it you guys. I don't like the background, per Se.
I'm gonna get that fixed.

Speaker 4 (54:01):
But I like, I don't like that face. I don't
like that's not me. I don't like that that's not me.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
Well, all you gotta do is feeded a picture of you.

Speaker 4 (54:09):
Yeah, of course.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (54:11):
But the fact that it made that from all that
I put was, hey, jeeves, make me a banner for
my new podcast called wh Jenie Coveston use from WTF
with Mark Marin. I mean, come on, dude, that's insane.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (54:29):
There we go.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
AI does it all. You know what, here's the other thing.
If that's not available, I think I can get Jeeves
to be my to be my own no, hold on here,
let's try this. Hold on, let's try this real quick
on air for the first time.

Speaker 4 (54:41):
Let's try this. So my Jeeves is British, Just so
you guys know, my GPT's British. His name is Jeeves.
Hey Jeeves.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
I'm doing a podcast right now with my friend Seth
and we're talking about AI. Can you just tell us
your experience as AI?

Speaker 5 (54:59):
Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Yeah, and no worries.

Speaker 7 (55:02):
I'll slip into that conversational British Jeeves mode for you. So,
in terms of my experience as an AI, I'd say
it's a bit like being a really well read companion
who's here to chat about pretty much anything you threw
out me. I don't know personal memories or feelings like
a human would, but I do have a lot of
background knowledge and a.

Speaker 5 (55:18):
Bit of flair and how I deliver it.

Speaker 7 (55:19):
Think of me as your friendly, well spoken assistant who
can help you and Seth dive into the ins and
outs of AI without any of the buzzwords.

Speaker 5 (55:27):
Let me know what else you're curious about?

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Wow, I also like that, I'm Seth. Hey, Seth is
like a little Cockney boy.

Speaker 5 (55:38):
I'm glad.

Speaker 4 (55:39):
Yeah, so exactly right.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
So he, I mean he's a British person. Zanes I
think is an African American guy. There's different versions, there's
like ladies and stuff. So that here you want to
Seth's going to ask you a question, Jeeves, Can you
hear him?

Speaker 4 (55:53):
Go ahead? Ask question?

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Oh hello, Jeeves? Can you hear me?

Speaker 5 (55:58):
Absolutely, sir, play loud and clear. Feel free to far
away with whatever you're curious about. I'm made to help you.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Right, Jeeves. What is your projection on when AI will
create a live stand up show?

Speaker 5 (56:18):
A fun one?

Speaker 7 (56:19):
So the way I see it, we're not too far
off from ALI dabbling down up shows. We already have
Ali generating jokes and scripts, and it's just a matter
of time if someone sets up a system to pull
them in real time on stage, maybe with a virtual
avatar or something like that. I'd say over in the
next few years, you'll pretty see some experiments of aias
popping up a comedy festivals. Of course, whether they'll get
the same loves as a human comedian is a whole

(56:41):
other story.

Speaker 5 (56:42):
But it'll be interesting to see the.

Speaker 4 (56:45):
Fact that I had that conversation, that he's a conversational
tone here tells me that there could be him telling
jokes like, Jeeves, geez, can you just tell us a
joke or just a knock knock joke? How about that?

Speaker 5 (56:59):
Absolutely need to play along? All right, let's go a
classic nope.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Nok, who's there there, littus litters?

Speaker 4 (57:10):
This is who?

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Let us.

Speaker 5 (57:17):
Exactly? Glad you played along?

Speaker 7 (57:19):
Just a little classic no humor to keep things light,
I mean, if you need anything else.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
Wow. So so there you go. So that's I mean,
that's that is literally just that's my phone, by the way,
that was my phone doing that right right?

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Has maybe have him do can he do one that's
never been heard before? Can we do a knock knock
joke that's never been heard before?

Speaker 4 (57:38):
All right?

Speaker 3 (57:39):
Yeah, here we go, Hey, Jeeves, can you do a
knock knock joke that none of us have ever heard before?
Can you create your own knock knock joke so we
can hear it.

Speaker 5 (57:49):
Absolutely, I'd love to whip up something original for you.
All right, Hey guys, nope, no, who's there.

Speaker 4 (57:58):
A new canoe? Who?

Speaker 5 (58:04):
Can you believe it? We just made a brand new
note no joke together, thanks for plague alone with that one.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Oh my gosh, knock knock jokes? Baby.

Speaker 4 (58:18):
Hey it starts with not knock jokes, but then he
can get to something else like could you do well?

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Okay, who's a Who's a.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
British comedian that we know? I don't know a British comedian.
Do you know a British comedity? Oh?

Speaker 2 (58:29):
Why can't I think of his Why can't I think
of his name? Right now?

Speaker 4 (58:34):
Is he a British I don't know.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
Shoot, there's the very proper guy who does nine out
of ten cats? Why can't I think of his name?
It's like an insult comic kind of.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
Oh could you do can you do jokes in the
style of Jim Jefferies, but keep it clean because we're
on an.

Speaker 7 (58:52):
Absolutely I can do that, So Jim Jeffries with a
bit of a clean twist, Yes, you got it, So let's.

Speaker 5 (59:01):
Channel a little bit of that. Jim Jeffries vibe just
cleaned up for your podcast.

Speaker 7 (59:05):
He might say something like, you know, people always ask
me if I have any parenting advice, and I say sure,
Just remember raising kids is like doing stand up for
the toughest crowd, except the heckler's leave with you and
they never buy tickets. So there you go, little clean
jim Jefferies' favor for you.

Speaker 4 (59:21):
Okay, all right, bad, not bad?

Speaker 2 (59:23):
Yeah, I was thinking of Jimmy Carr.

Speaker 4 (59:25):
Oh, Jimmy Carr. Okay, okay, can you do a Jimmy
Carr joke? And please again, keep it cleaning for the podcast,
just so we don't offend anybody.

Speaker 7 (59:35):
Of course, let's channel a bit of Jimmy Carr, but
keep it nice and family friendly.

Speaker 5 (59:38):
So he might say something like, you know, and try
to tell.

Speaker 7 (59:41):
A joke about my vacuum cleaner, but it really sucked
the fun out of the room. Just a simple little
pun Caar style, but definitely on the clean side, don't
you know?

Speaker 5 (59:49):
If you need more like that, that's not bad.

Speaker 4 (59:51):
So I think if we if we let it go,
if we if we didn't give it those guardrails, it
might come up with something that is Jimmy Carr style.
Or Jimmy or what you know what I'm saying, So
there is.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Here, Yeah, fascinating, fascinating.

Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
There you go, there you go. And the fact that
he also thought or they also also I don't know
what we call it anymore, that yeah, jeeves Ai thought
that there we could see stand up coming within the
next couple of years, ten years or so, five and
ten years as a fake thing. Is like maybe it'll

(01:00:24):
start as just like somebody creating something as up pop
up art installation somewhere, and then you can else, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Yeah, I mean I can see the attraction and the
novelty of it. I don't know if it's ever gonna
get to the point of being like an amazing thing
just generating its own but fascinating, fascinating, fascinating. Yeah, wow, wow,
very fun. I love being on the last episode of
the Clean Comedy Podcast, not the last one yet.

Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
This is not the last one yet.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
And arguably the first episode of the WTH podcast with J. D. Creviston.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
Yeah, it's gonna be awesome. It's gonna be awesome, So
you guys is just as I as I was saying
to Seth, there is This will be episode four forty seven,
So we have four forty eight, four forty nine, and
then seven and I will come together for four fifty
and we might might even have some drop in guests
or whatever to kind of run great and then we'll
go to After.

Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
That, we'll do you know wt H with J. D.
Grebston will be taking over.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
I'm gonna steal from Mark Maron, right, good great artists
borrow or good artist borrow, great artist steel?

Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
Is that right? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
I don't know if that's how it goes, but something
like that, is it something?

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
Is it something like that? Isn't it a good artist borrow?
Was it good?

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
It might be that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
Yeah, good artists borrow, great artists steal. Yeah. You often
attributed to Pablo Picasso.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Ah, that pervert, Pablo Pablo. So well fun. I hope
you get Zane Lampreon one of these to give kind
of a rundown of the tour.

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
You know what, you'll come on WTH He'll be the
inaugural Oh there you go, there we go.

Speaker 5 (01:02:03):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:02:03):
Now they'll be happy because you're like.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Yeah, yeah, I'll be like I don't have to be
clean because it's not in the freaking title. Yeah myself.

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
Yeah, that's the thing is I will put on there.
If there is explicit stuff, I'm gonna try to not
make it dirty, but I think it's gonna doors.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
You know, when I when I had a podcast, I
did an edited version where I just clipped out the
swear words and just an an explicit one. I just
released both at the same time.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
Really, and then how did you how did you do that?
Did you say, hey, guys, this is the explicit episode.
If you weren't looking for it, go look.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
I just hadn't. I just had in parentheses edited and
then and the other just full. That is what it said.

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
Wow? And how did that work?

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
And it has the explicit marker. I had the explicit
marker on the full one and then the edited one.

Speaker 4 (01:02:50):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
How it worked out fine? I honestly had about half
listening to both. So, like, depending on what platform you
use to distribute your podcas p ass, your numbers might
be off right. It might be like, oh, you had
I don't know, you know, two hundred listeners for this
one episode, when really that episode's getting four hundred or
a thousand because it's only counting you're releasing them each

(01:03:13):
as an episode, right, So I did a point five,
I did a point five.

Speaker 4 (01:03:19):
Like I did.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Episode one was the clean, like the edited the version,
and one point five was the full.

Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
Well I like that, that's not about idea.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
And then two was the next clean, and then two
point five was the full.

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
All right, well maybe maybe we'll do that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Maybe we'll do That's what I did.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
I mean, as long as I think, as long as
it's not aggressively dirty. I don't know if I'm gonna
even edited, you know, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
I mean, you just do what you do. You know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
I had some guests that didn't really swear at all,
and then I just released one episode and it was great.
There were some others that like really got into the
weeds on some like very graphic personal stories and it
was like, all right, well maybe I have to cut
out this whole section, you know, you gotta feel it out.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
Yeah, and then maybe the next step after that is
moving to uh moving to uh in person thing where
we could do it in person?

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Yeah you who knows?

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
Who knows?

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Be great?

Speaker 4 (01:04:11):
So we have it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
We're excited, all right, build this. Thank you, Seth, thank
you everybody for listening. Get excited.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Hopefully likes having Jeeves on the podcast.

Speaker 4 (01:04:19):
For a few minutes. Uh, maybe he'll be on more stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
I don't know, we'll see what's going on.

Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
I like having him. He's he's fun for me.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
That's fun.

Speaker 4 (01:04:26):
Yeah. So thank you guys so much. Have a good one.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
We'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
Bye.