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Speaker 1 (00:29):
The following program contains course language and adult themes. Listener
discretion is advice and welcome everyone to another episode of
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The Cocktail Lounge. I am your hostess with Emostes, Maggie,
and with me as always, is the ever suave, affable
and cowaffable co host Brad Slager. How are you doing tonight?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Doing good? Doing good?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Apparently?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
How is everything going this evening?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I'm not as tinkly as yours. I'm just having iced
tea tonight. I'm not apparently what are you having?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I am enjoying bumboo xo.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Ah. Yes, you introduced me to that and it has
become a favorite.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Damn good stuff that It's not as.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Good as the one I've given you, but it's it's close.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I'm gonna say camp a little bit different, like in
a bifurcated fashion. Now going well, going well here, all
things considered, I will have to say this. I'm going
to give you a virtual high five, Lace our fingers together,
clamp your hand, and make the explosion well done Saturday evening.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I know, can you believe that happened? Still, I'm still
in awe of it because it was completely completely unexpected.
I mean let's face it. For those of you who
are wondering what if this is cryptic or not, my
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aggies beat Notre Dame. It was a hilorious it was.
It was a great game.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I mean it was like it was like close the
entire time.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yes, yes it was, and I there was I don't
know what happened, but apparently at the end, towards the
end of the first half, Notre Dame had a major error.
I mean like, I couldn't believe that happened, and it
was replayed throughout the halftime break. But apparently the quarterback
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heard somebody actually clap their hands and he thought it
was his center and he threw the ball. So Bob
went and they lost yards. And I was like, oh
my god, this was incredible. I was like, I can't
believe I just saw that. I can't believe I saw
a Notre Dame do that, because normally, I mean, Notre
Dame's a machine. They're very well oiled. There is no
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grit in those cogs, you know. So when that happened,
I was I was taken aback, you know, and we
were Notre Dame was favorite to win by six and
a half points or something. Like that maybe six months,
like a touchdown, and so I went in there thinking
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they're gonna win by at least three touchdowns. I'm pretty sure.
But the game was just incredible. It was one after
the other. There was there was no there was no
time for you to relax because it was so act active.
It was. It was incredible, it really was. And towards
the end, I could I still can't believe that this happened.
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It was the last play and Nate bor fourth charature,
poor Chachure. I think it is his last name. Marcel
read it's it's a it's it's it's fourth and four,
and he threw just throws the ball because it's like
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almost out a time, and Nate actually catches bondi enza
and ties the game. And this is where I could
see Notre Dame. You know, the camera pans over to
the Notre Dame stands and everything, because this was at
Notre Dame, and everybody's like, no, this cannot be happening.
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But I mean, you know one thing that I do hate.
I'm going to just break in. I hate it when
the camera gets on a kid who is whose heart
is breaking. That just tears me up. I don't care
what game, what, what team they're on, what team they're
cheering for, but don't do that. Put it on adults
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to show their faces when it's not a happy time,
but on kids. Just stick to the happy ones, because
that's that makes it better in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Because seeing adults go through that kind of emotional meltdown
is so much better.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
It is, it is, It means exactly, it means for so.
So we're there and we're ready for the for the
and we made it and it was it was over,
and Notre Dame was still stunned. They just could not.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Well, I'm gonna set this up in proper fashion too,
because again this was a very tight game. Notre Dame
gets the go ahead touchdown with what about two and
a half minutes.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
To go, right, so we thought it was over.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I finally screwed up the extra point. Ah yeah, so
this like the holder, good snap, The holder just fumbled
that got up and you know, tried to make a play.
It wasn't even close, even though he kind of had
a guy he could hit. So this was setting up
for drama right there. Your team gets the ball back
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and manages to put up a great drive in that
period of time, fourth and goal. I think they're on
like the eleven and it was you know, everything came
down to that play and they made that play. Oh
and they made the extra point and yeah, it was
just beautiful to beaut Here's the part I love. Irish
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are oho and two and both of our teams are responsible.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yes, it kind of brings us together, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
There's only one drawback to all of this glorying, glee
and joyousness, and that is because it's freaking Irish. At
oh and two. They're still ranked.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah, barely, but they're still in the rankings. I mean,
anybody else have to do this now.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
By comparison, Clemson also lost at home. Clemson was ranked
and I want to say, like eleven twelve, somewhere in
that range, just outside the top ten. They lose at
home to Georgia Tech. Another close game, and then you know,
Tech has this late drive and they hit a fifty
five yard field goal to win it, and they're completely gone,
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like not just out of the top end. They barely
got any votes, like you could see, you know, the
other there's probably about ten teams they list outside of
the twenty five and tell you how many points they get,
barely any points at all, but the Irish retain at
number twenty four. Stop it quit. They lost at home
and like you said, seven point favorite almost m that's
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a screw up. I'm sorry, that's like you have to
try to do that.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Defense of their were there were several mistakes made well
both but the defense and the offense. I mean, like
I said towards the end of the half, the first
half that the offense did have made your mistake and
that cost them. But they were able to recover, you know,
in the third quarter. And the thing is the mistakes
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that they made were we're stupid, m you know, and
unexpected you. I didn't expect them to be like that,
simply because it's Notre Dame and they're supposed to have
this powerhouse, you know, this this team that that that's
always clicking, and they ma you know. But I, like
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I said, I will take it. This was my twenty
twelve Alabama moment. And for those of you not in
the know, we beat Alabama by like a point or
a field goal that year and we were not expected
to so I'll take it. Well.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
As for our team, Miami Hurricane, they kind of had
they played a ranked opponent was University of South Florida.
They were They came in about number eighteen last week,
first time in like I don't know, twenty years, there's
only like three teams that began the year unranked beat
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ranked opponents, and that was the Bulls, So you know,
they earned their ranking, but the Hurricanes just owned them.
I mean, it wasn't even a close game. And this
team is just clicking almost on all cylinders, with maybe
the exception of the secondary is a little bit dicey,
but the offense is just a machine right now. Carson
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Beck is just loving life that he's got receivers that
actually catch the ball. We've got a good running game
on top of it. Our run defense is just immaculate.
They put this stat out there like that. The Irish
were touted coming into this season. Oh, they got these
two strong running backs coming back. They usually average one
hundred yards a game. They didn't do dick when we
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played them, and they said, this is one of those
stats that don't show up on the sheet. Every single
running play that they did against Miami, first contact was
behind the line of scrimmage. Just that kind of game.
And you know, I think their top runner earned like
thirty three yards, So that's good. You know, Like I said,
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the secondary is a little dicey because they give up
these big plays. It seems like every game. I think
they gave up a fifty yarder against the Bulls on Saturday.
But you know, for the most part, it was just
you know, dominating second and third string went in by
the fourth quarter. You know, it was that kind of
that kind of romp. And then they went up to
number four in the polls. So they're looking pretty good
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right now, pretty solid. And you guys are looking good.
You just popped in the top ten. How about that.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I was very surprised to see us in the top
ten and then lean ten, but still in the top ten.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
No, that's that's great. That was a hell. I think
you had biggest jump of the week, by the way.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
I think so too. And I was very surprised because
I'll be honest, I thought we were going to be
like we would go down to fourteen and then would
be fifteen, you know, like they do this all the time.
I still remember when Notre Dame lost and they had
I think they were like one and three, and they
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moved up in the rankings, and the justification for that
was that they played really really well during that game. Okay,
so they lost by a field goal, but they still
played really well, so we're going to give them the votes.
This is why I hate the stupid ranking system. I've
never liked it. I will die on that hill.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Okay. See, look, this is where I got to step in.
And it's not what I'm telling you. You're wrong, but.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Because you know better, No, but you are wrong.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
You're doing it. You only have to look at the
polling as something fun, you know, just regarded as you know,
barbroom chatter, that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Admittedly true, it only.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Really matters in the last three weeks because that constitutes
the seed in going into the postseason, the playoffs setup,
so you know, like as of right now, in consequential.
But you know that for me to come here or
say how the hell of the damn I were still
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ranked owing to is because the suckhole voters in the
ball I think they have like sixty college football journalists
participate in this. I don't understand how there's this affection
for Notre Dame so much. Though I.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I do not understand it, I understand that I mean seriously,
coming from a school that has so many traditions. Our
traditions are literally on our graduation ring, of which there's
only one design, by the way, because all of the
traditions are in there. But Notre Dame does have glorious traditions.
They've made movies out of their.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Football team, I know, but you know, so you would
think that. Look at the.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I'll be honest, they did a movie about our football
team as well, but that was the when Bear Bryant
was our coach and ESPN that that. I think that
was the first ESPN film and it was called The
Junction Boys, but it wasn't it was released for ESPN.
It wasn't released like the theaters like Rudy was you.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
I mean, uh, you know. In arguably Miami as a
movie too, it's really a kind of a police training
documentary criminals. That's what I'm saying. Because somebody the other
day was even talking about any time.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Okay, okay, I'm okay, okay, all right, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Compose yourself please, all right. The other day somebody was
even asking me about like the whole Catholics and convict thing.
Doesn't that piss you guys off? Kidding me like that
was Notre Dame's idea of slamming us, and we adopted it.
Catholic first, the convince. It's like, okay, which one would
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you rather have on your football team?
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (15:32):
No, I went out and kicked their ask.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
But that that's just the mark of a very smart organization.
When I remember when I was in at Texas A
and M and Fred Akers, who was the coach at
the time for Tech Texas. Uh they he called our
team cockroaches. We made T shirts and sold them for
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the school Scholarship Foundation.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
You know, I was in the on Friday and one
of my friends is in there and he's like wearing
a T shirt and it's in proud Convict green.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Orge Embrace it.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
You know. That's the thing is It's that the whole
Miami swagger is like, what, really, you're going to insult us? Okay?
I mean this is like when internet trolls try to
jump me in my timeline. It's like, you're gonna make
me coward. No, I'm gonna rub my hands together before
I start typing. I mean, come on, It's kind of
the same thing, but they don't quite have that same
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attitude right now, this is more of it's just more
of a power team at this point. They're not you know,
big brash and all of that. It's it's really just
you know, go out there and take care of business.
And I'm enjoying it. I'm enjoying it. So uh yeah,
we we both came through, and you've knocked the Irish down,
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if not out, no.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Sadly not out either of the rankings or the possibility
of going to the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
But guys, actually you're a real good position. I looked
at the schedule coming up for you, and I think
you got like three straight home games and these are
all you know, you got like Mississippi State, Florida, I
mean you got beatable.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah, but LS He's coming up in Texas.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
But you're going to be you know, by that point,
you'll be entrenched. I think A and M is playing
better each game. I mean, you can see the guys
settling into their roles.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I do think that they are clicking better than they
were last year. And you know, like I said, Elco
is kind of relatively new and he's still trying. He's
doing the replacements type of theory where he actually has
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been making several players play different positions, and it has
been a good advantage for him. He has actually switched
a couple of players from their previous roles and they've
actually flourished and things are starting to click a little
better now, I think, in my opinion. And that's not
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going to say that. I mean, like, that's not to
say like maybe this was a fluke with Notre Dame,
but I think it also provided a boost of confidence
for the team. So either way, I'll take it.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, But I mean, look at you putting up forty
one points on the Irish. I mean, that's you gotta
like that. That's that's a hell of a sign right there.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Like I said, I expected them to have forty one
points and I expected us to have maybe fourteen if that.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
So give yourself some credit. But there's there's an advantage
for Elko too regarding the NIL because that helps a
new coach. That's one of the few benefits I think
of the NIL with the whole changeover and such, You're
not you know, most of the time it was a
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new coach comes in and he has to contend with
the players that the previous guy recruited. M Now you
can bring in a whole new batch and that helps immensely.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I mean, just you know, or you can take it
if you're leaving. Like what happened in Marshall, I mean
that was that was incredible to me. I still can't
believe that happened last year.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
But now there's you know, there's a benefit for a
new coach in that fashion that he can bring in
a bunch of guys true that are his or at
least can play into his system. He doesn't have to,
you know. And it used to be in college that
one coach to the next had a completely different scheme.
So if you were a new coach coming in and
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you ran an offense that was, let's say heavy on
the option, and you're a pass heavy coach, you're kind
of screwed and you have to kind of either get
those guys to adapt or you have to put up
with what you've got for a season or two before
you can start bringing in your guys. Now with the
ni L, it's like boom, no, we're gonna do running
gun and I can bring my guys in this year
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and we'll do it. That's that's a benefit. So it's
a it's not all bad, I guess you could say, well,
I guess we have to get into the heaviness now.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Because I know I kind of avoided it.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
But yeah, well it's just, you know, since our last episode,
the uh, the entire country has become embroiled as a
result of I don't I hate calling it a tragedy
because it's.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
So it's it was a direct it was an assassination.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
That's murder of Charlie Cook took place. And you know,
I'm not saying, oh, what was us We took just
harder than others. But it was significant for us at
town Hall Media because he was one of ours, and
I just think that it played out a little bit
different for us only because he was that and we
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had to address it but at the same time approach
it in a unique fashion.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I know.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
It was like that day I had my column done
for town Hall and I was literally setting up for
recording my podcast and I was pulling up some items
and I mean literally saw the post on there are
you shitting me? You know, like it just had happened.
I went right to my Slack channel. Nobody had talked
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about it yet, and I just said, you know, holy shit,
Charlie got hit and then within a couple of minutes,
everybody started coming in and like what the heck, And
it was just like all hands on deck and watching
it play out. And you know, the thing is, we're
kind of in this not limbo, but kind of in
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this like nebulous spot where we're in a position where
we still had to report on things as it's breaking,
but we also had to do it in a particular
fashion because he was ours, and you know, we couldn't
say certain things because of corporate you know, like there's
there were it's almost bizarre or sad to say it,
but there were some legal connections like that. You couldn't
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come right out and say something. You had to phrase
it the right way or else, you know that kind
of crack right right. So it's not like we were
holding anything back either. It's like you just had to
use proper language and such, because since he was one
of ours, you had to make sure, you know, you
weren't sounding and citing with your language and that kind
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of crap. You know, it's not so much lawyers, but
as it was just fending off future problems, making sure
you said things the right way. And I will say this,
I mean it was an advanced word so much as
it was probably you know, we we had connections into
the pipeline and it was kind of apparent that he
didn't make it earlier than the official announcements, and you know,
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and again we couldn't say anything because you know, you
had to be sure of the family and a host
of other things too, So it was all just very jarring.
And you know, the thing is, in real time, I'm
watching this affect people because our pretty much our entire
staff was on the slack channelize this plan out, and
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you know, some were paralyzed, you know, and they were saying,
I don't think I could even write for a day
or two after this, and others were just outright sad.
Good number of us were just like me, absolutely pissed off.
And it's kind of extending the tragedy, for lack of
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a better term, watching the nationwide reaction to this, because
this is exposing so much right now what's going on
in this country, Like people that are so willing to
come forward and just be nasty, crude, you know, not
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having a sense. It's not even decency, it's just humanity really,
And maybe you know that's probably me being a little
bit closer to it. I didn't know Charlie heat I
don't think we ever met, but it feels personal because
it was with us, and watching these people react this way,
I keep trying to think of any other figures from
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the left that this would have happened to you and
I would have had a similar feeling, and I just
can't even conjure it. But watching these people celebrate his death,
I'm glad he's gone more to come and you know,
crap like that. I don't see anybody in my circle
ever behaving that way, So it's so foreign to watch
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people react like that.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
I've had I have seen people on the right rejoice
in the death of a particularly leftist or liberal politician,
but the politician was old, you know, or for whatever reason,
you know, passed away natural clauses. Most of the time,
I think pretty much all everyone that I have seen
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and rejoicing in it, And I'm like, yeah, I would
never rejoice in the death of anybody due to the politics, now,
I'll be honest. When we did manage to kill it's
awam bin Laden. Yeah, there was rejoicing about that this
man had cost so much harm that I was okay
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with that I was okay, I am pretty okay rejoicing
about Polepot. When Chicheska was actually tried and convicted in
the tribunal, I was very happy that man had done
a lot of damage to that country. So, you know,
there is a certain there is a certain time where
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I would and have rejoiced over the death of someone
that has caused a great deal of harm to not
just people of my country, but people from all over
the world for whatever, you know. And weirdly, like half
of them were not politicians. They were political figures, but
they were not politicians, you know. So you know, I
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remember my dad was very happy when when they got
Guebara well you know, I mean he was when news
broke and my dad was so happy that my uncle
didn't speak to my dad for like three months because
my uncle's like a big time to fan and whatever
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story there. But to actually see the level of rejoicing
from the left, the level to which some people were saying,
not only did he have it coming, but he's the first.
We should make this a habit of eliminating the voices
on the right. It's not about a difference of opinion anymore.
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And I think this assassination has opened the eyes to
a lot of people, both on the right and left,
because I see people on the left saying, I can't
be associated with this at all. Why they're like. I
saw some people who actually never ever gave Charlie the
time of day because they thought that he was all
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of these phobic and ists that they despised. And then
they went back and started watching all of the uncut
videos and then they started realizing, oh my god, this
guy was. He just wanted to talk. All he wanted
to do was provide a forum for people with different
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ideas to come forward and share them, and that is
that was his main goal. He wanted people to debate.
He wanted people to discuss their differences. He wanted the
ability for people to talk to each other because, as
he said, the moment you stop talking, that's when the
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violence starts. And I can tell you my niece doesn't
talk to me anymore. My niece is all about BLM
and she's okay with burning down cities. That is dangerous.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
But right there is one indicator that the two sides
are different. You know, I'm not the all first and
only want to point it out, but the fact that
such a prominent figure as Charlie kirk Fell. And you
don't see rioting in the streets. You don't see burning
of buildings.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
No, you just saw a lot of vigils being Some
of them were very impromptu, some have been planned, some
are still to come. I know that there was a
very large one at my alma mater. There were photos
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posted of it and people were like, oh, it seems
to be a small gathering. I said, no, that is
right outside of Rudder Tower and the Royal Student Center.
Let me tell you how big that is. That is
big enough to accommodate half of the football field. And
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people were like, seriously, I'm like, yes, don't think that
this was a small area. It is not. It is
not a small area. They were, they were, some of
the kids were actually in the fountain because it was
so crowded, they actually went int to the fountain. They
turned off the water to the fountain and drained it
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so that people would stand in there. That was what
I heard, But I knew people were in the fountain.
That is how crowded that vigil was. And the vigil
wasn't just twenty minutes. People were there for hours, and
that was just at one university. I heard that the
university in my hometown, UTRGV, they held a vigil, and
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I was like shocked because I didn't even think Charlie
was down there. But apparently there were a lot of
people that went to that particular university that were well
aware of Charlie Kirk and his work was turning point,
and they held a vigil and it was a pretty
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good sized vigil. And when I tell you that, I'm shocked.
This is a very blue school, okay, in a very
blue city, in a blue area, But there they were,
and they were holding a vigil, and it was beautiful
to see all of these vigils popping up everywhere and
remembers of a man that all he wanted to do
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was provide a voice to those that needed it. That
was it.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Well this yeah, and that's a testament to him, and
it's also a testament to what happened. Because I've just
been fed up with just so much of the media
reaction to this. But what's so untenable for me is
when I hear the lectures you people on the right
need to tone it down. Oh d No, I mean,
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there's Nate Burulson, former football player who probably has CTE.
Just speculating, I don't know, this is just me speculating,
but he's sitting across from Kevin McCarthy. He's like, now,
is your party ready to tone down the rhetoric? Are
you kidding me with this?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
How is it that the party that needs to tone
down the record rhetoric is the party that is always
being targeted. We're not the ones with the rhetorica. We
don't need to turn on this. We're not in control
of the temperature. We don't even have our handle on
the damn knob.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah, and it's you know, you listen to that. And
but the thing is, it's always been consistently in that direction.
I haven't seen it go the other way now.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
And of course, the entire thing that I hate right
now is the what about? What about? What about? And
they always keep bringing up the state senator from Michigan,
and and I'm like, you know, y'all weren't sad about that.
It's like we were stunned about that. Don't think that
we weren't, because I know it was covered by town Hall,
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and it was covered by Red State, and it was
covered by PJ media. It was covered by a lot
of the right. We were stunned. We could not believe
that happened. But if you want to go down that road,
it wasn't a right winger that took her out and
her husband and shot the other two. Because remember there
were four people who were shot, not just two two,
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but there were four shot.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
This is a complete wing neck, you know, when they
haven't played the same game, they go, oh, well, his
voting record shows trumped. It's like great, and he was
appointed by Walls, and he had.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
And he worked for the Democratic Labor Party.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
He had no Kings protest flyers in his car. Upon
his arrest, and after arrest he even said that he
did this on behalf of Tim Walls to help his
cause out the guy, I'm not even signing blame to
one side or the other. This guy was just out
the lunch entirely. You know. He fashioned himself as like
a security expert and claimed to have intelligence contacts overseas
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and such that he didn't have. I mean, this guy
was not living in reality. No, and there and say
he's from the left. As a result, I'm saying this
guy was just out the lunch period.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
No, And you know, for those of you who have
not are not aware. Jeff not Jeff. Jeff's our producer
Greg Guttfeld went complete nuclear scorched earth on Jessica Tardlov
on the five to tell her that there was no
longer what about that doesn't apply here. This is an
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act of violence that will affect the country because of
how it how it was done. It's not like you know,
like like he said, nobody had heard of this senator
before then, Charlie. Everybody had known about it. He had
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an impact throughout the nation, and not just our nation,
several other nations as well. And this is what he
was what gttfelt was trying to say, you assassinated this man.
There is no comparison unless you go back to the
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other assassinations that we've had, and every single assassination that
we've had in our history has had to deal with
somebody who wanted to talk.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Oh yeah. Well here's the other thing too, that this
comparison to the Minnesota murders it has no place, is
that you didn't hear one. You didn't hear people coming
out and saying they brought this on themselves. No nobody
accused them of being killed over their speech or anything else.
(35:48):
This was a matter of a wing not having his
own personal legenda. It wasn't based on something specific. Well,
they were racist, they were hateful, they were no, none
of that. You didn't see the celebration effort either, So
there goes your comparison.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
It's completely ridiculous. And no, this stands alone. And let
me tell you, in my opinion, watching it from the
human nature standpoint, from an anthropological standpoint, this is an
actual PARADEGM shift. There has been a shift, not just
in our politics, not just in our culture, but in
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our society. We are now aware of such a break
between factions that I can only say from my personal
experience having seen several things like this happen in a
microscopic scale, like in a town back home that's another
(36:53):
tele novela I won't get into that, but also having
studied it in several tribal societies. You don't back from this,
you don't. This break is so so severe, the break
between those on the right and the lunatic faction on
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the left. I'm not going to say everybody on the left,
but there is a fringe on the left, and I'm
sure that we have one on the right as well,
but they've been quite up late. Notice, but there's a
fringe on the left, particularly those that were celebrating the
fact that Charlie Kirk had been killed, that felt that
that was an acceptable thing to happen.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Well, the problem is that's not something that's sitting on
the fringe any longer. That's moving more and more to
their No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
And the thing is the left not only has the
responsibility to stop it, they have a responsibility to cut
away from it, but they don't because it gives them power,
it helps.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
They're doing is reframing, refracturing this or everything has to
be recalibrated. You don't have to understand. We're just coming
from and they're you know what led to this, and
he was partly responsible all of this massaging because almost
all of the commentary about this assassination coming from the
left has been Look, I had to cry, all left
and right violence, political violence is wrong, and then they
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segue into massaging it. You know, it's almost like, yes,
but there's.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
No butt, we cannot allow a butt anymore.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
But that's not what they're doing. You know, we have
to understand that the division that was being spoken is
going to rise up certain people, and you know that
kind of recalibration takes place, and that's when you have
to shut things down. It's like no, no, no, stop
at your first sentence, there's no follow up needed, but
they do. And I've lost it on those, mainly in
(38:54):
the press, but many other you know, we just we
have to tone down the temperature and we have to
meet in the middle, and we need to discuss things
without violence. It's like, listen, dumbasses, that's what Charlie Kirk
was doing when he was killed.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
This is this is what I we were discussing this today.
Milo has decided to un retire from social media. And
I don't think. Yes, I I've never been a fan
of his, but I know that he was very effective
of what he did, and there was there was an influencer,
(39:31):
some social TikTok person or whatever. And he said, when
I saw that, I I was afraid. I said, I
don't think people understand what just happened. H and and
he said, the best, the best comparison that he could make.
(39:52):
And this is for those of you who are Christian
or under understand Christianity and the hierarchy of angels. He
said that Charlie was the archangel Gabriel, but Milo was
the archangel Michael. Michael is the warrior angel. Okay when
(40:12):
my if Michael gets involved, you're cooked. But no, I
mean as a Catholic, we are a pope. Back in
early nineteen hundreds actually came up with the Prayer of
Saint of the Archangel Michael. Okay, and that is a
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prayer that galvinises us to be warriors for God. It
is a protective prayer. It is a beautiful prayer.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Look it up.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
It's it's actually stunning, and it's simplicity, and it's and
and the way that it's written. But it was It
was funny because I remember when I was going through
first Communion and then I was doing the Confirmation and
all that stuff and everything and going through those classes,
one of the things, you know, we had to study
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was the angel hierarchy and all that stuff, and that
one that was actually for more like for your you know,
so you could understand why it was that we would
we would ask certain angels to intercede or whatever. Right,
And the very last one that we were studying was Michael.
(41:31):
If I remember the teacher saying, this is the guy
you don't want to deal with. If he's coming down
to deal with you, you might as well just give
it up right now. And I was like, oh, okay, that's.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
The West, you know.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
And yes, and it's and he is. He is the
warrior Angel. And when I heard that comparison, I was like, oh,
my goodness, this is true. Charlie was like Gabriel. He
really was like Gabriel. And all Charlie wanted to do
was he wanted to stand on his faith. And he
was so happy in his faith that it just it
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always made me smile whenever he spoke of it. He
was a defender of everybody. He may not have agreed
with the lifestyle, but he would defend them completely. He
had absolutely no problems defending anybody who felt marginalized and
who wanted to at least understand the conservative point of
view and wanted to be welcomed into the tent. And
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he welcomed everybody. And this is what a lot of
people on the left do not understand. They don't have
a Charlie. They don't have a Charlie. They don't understand
why he was so important. And I tried explaining it
to a friend of mine who was not familiar with
(42:56):
Charlie Kirk, and she was kind of trying to grasp
you know why, you know, people gravitated towards him and everything.
I said, let me ask you something, if you wanted
to make friends, would you be open to all of
(43:22):
their hobbies and quite about their hobbies, see if you
could find something in common and go from there. Or
would you tell that person I only like college football.
And she said no, I would actually ask them everything,
blah blah blah. And I said, that's what Charlie did.
He actually went to talk to all these people. Everybody
(43:45):
that had a problem with whatever stance he was on
had an open mic. As a matter of fact, liberals
went to the front of the line. They always went
to the front of the line. He wanted to know
what their grievance was, or what their point was. He
wanted to know what they wanted to talk about or whatever.
And I saw several intelligent debates that he would hold
(44:10):
out there with these kids, and the kids were open,
and even though sometimes they would end up disagreeing or
for whatever reason, it was still a good debate. There's
one clip that's flying around about the dad and the son.
The dad is very liberal. The son turned conservative and
the dad couldn't understand it. And Kirk actually explained why
(44:35):
there was this, you know, a guess chasm between them,
and he said, you come from a time when these
problems were prevalent and the government helped you in these problems.
But he's at a different time now, and that's why
you're having issues with him being conservative. But the love
of father and son, that shouldn't even enter politics. This
(44:58):
doesn't don't even bother with that. And it was it
was a beautiful clip, and it was so nice to
see somebody actually articulate that, because I can tell you
right now, the liberal faction in my family, several of
them don't talk to me anymore. They refused to talk
to me. Yeah, and I'm like, I'm not the one
(45:18):
that stopped talking to them. I did take steps. So
this week, this assassination has been my line. I used
to tolerate a lot of stuff from liberals in my family,
to include their support for BLM, their support for defund
the police. And I never I said, you know, they
(45:39):
have every right for that, blah blah blah whatever. But
when I saw several of them actually rejoicing and saying
this needs to happen more often, and saying it's because
you know, he was racist. He brought it on himself.
That was my line. And I cannot tell you how
hard it was to click that button on social media
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because I had never done that before.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
And she's the very issue right there though, you know,
there's so many of him come out instead. We you know,
we got to find a way to meet together. It's
like you just screwed it up because he was the
one to do it. He was in the process of
doing it when you took him out, and yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Like we need, you know, we need to have a discussion.
Well you killed the guy that was that was doing it.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Yeah, you got rid of the most open minded voice
on the right, and now what's left. The one account
put it so perfectly, he's like, they don't understand. They
just took out the nice one.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
That's true, they did. They took out the nice one.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
You know, we talked when we were going through this
at at Red State and somebody were saying, you know,
it's like, you know, I used to have kind of
a tough edge now and I'm like, you know, I'm
nothing but sharp veget like, you're kidding me. I'm a
fucking serrated ginsu right now, because I have no tolerance
for the horseshit anymore. That's coming out. And there Brian
(47:07):
Stelter the other day, he's putting up. He's quoting words
from Charlie Kirk as a means of saying, you know,
we need to really turn the temperature down, and Charlie
was about He's like, shut the fuck up, because he
was doing exactly that. And look what happened. You don't
want that because you took out a voice, the voice.
(47:31):
And the other quote that makes so much sense too,
is they didn't take him out for what he was saying.
He took him up. They took him out because people
were listening and he was having the effect because on campus,
on college campuses, he was having an effect. But I
talked about it last week at Red State. The left
may have just lost an entire generation because he was
(47:55):
having an effect in high school. There's polling showing high
schoolers are not only becoming more politically active, they're becoming
conservative and when they see this, this is going to
intrench them. They just galvanized that entire generation because now
they see a definitive, but the line's not even drawn
(48:16):
in the sand. This has been etched in stone and
thro violence, and this is going to just make them
go permanently to one side.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
Oh yeah, to give you an example, three four Charlie's death.
I believe it was on the ninth or something like that.
The last count they had nine thousand college chapters for
Turning Point and eleven hundred chapters in high schools for
(48:46):
Turning Point. And they the website for Turning Point on
the eleventh and on the twelfth kept crashing. The reason
for that was they had over eighteen thousand petitions to
set up new chapters in different schools. Eighteen thousand. I
(49:13):
can't I the left can't imagine what this means. They
really don't understand. And this is something that I have
brought up before. Wick and I have spoken about it.
But we as Christians are commanded to turn the other cheek.
That's when the slide is minor. Okay, if you study
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the passage where that comes from. It's not talking about
if you are grievously wronged, you should turn the other cheek.
If it's a you know, some kind of slight someone
lied about you. It's something you can recover from. You
do turn the other cheek. You know, you should forgive easily.
(50:00):
But the thing is, we run out of cheeks. Eventually
you have to start taking a stand because you can
no longer excuse that. You can't excuse evil. And this
is what I've been witnessing has been evil. And I
don't take that word lightly. I never use that word lightly.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
It's really not a stretch when you're talking about assassinating
somebody for their views, and you know, as far as
turning the other cheek right now, no no truth in
their face. And I'm coming back swinging.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
Kiara's done. Your friend Kara Davis from Red State, she
had tweeted out this that she's got a message after
the assassination, and the message says, this has I'm getting
our Duke Franz Ferdinand vibes out of this. And I
(50:58):
most of y'all know who that was. You know, that
was the that was the kindling that started World War One,
his assassination, And I'm like, I don't I don't think
it's gonna be fought like World War One. But I
don't think the left understands how we're going to be
(51:21):
fighting this because they don't understand. They've never seen us fight.
They don't think we can because we've always chosen not to.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Well, just look at what's taking place right now over
the weekend. What's blown up this whole thing about cancel culture,
and that is basically the people that are celebrating murder
or losing jobs and such. And they're like outrage at this. Oh,
I thought you conservatives were against cancel culture. Yeah, we will,
(51:52):
We'll say that all the time. But when you get
to the point of murder, it's a lensky time. It's
holding you a kind by your standards. You're the ones
that instituted cancel culture. You're the ones that told us
that was a viable and I mean Rolling Stone cracked
me up. They put out this lengthy column about Oh,
(52:13):
and the right is politicizing his death and using it
as a force to cancel people. Really, because here's your
article from eighteen months ago where you were praising cancel
culture as a need to defend democracy. Toumbasses. Illhan Omar
just came out and she made a comment about how
you know people are being being fired for expressing their
(52:36):
free speech, and first Amendment rights. Okay now, and then
somebody all we had to do is come up with
her own post that it was like what a year
or two ago where she said, yeah, you have the
right to free speech, but you don't have the right
to say whatever you want without repercussions. And if there's
going to be accountability for what she said, oh well,
you know, and she was all in favor of it then,
(52:58):
but now it's affecting her side. Oh this is unseambly.
Speaker 1 (53:01):
Oh no, I've I've seen videos of lawyers actually coming
out to explain this to their followers because their followers
are now in fear of being quote unquote canceled. And
let me tell you something, nobody's being canceled. They're being
held accountable. There's a difference, and this started with the left.
(53:23):
We still have the screenshots from Wired saying, you know,
it's like you can have freedom of speech, but not
freedom of consequences. That was their thing. Remember that, I
still have that screenshot. And he was explaining that freedom
of speech as defined by the Bill of Rights protects
you from the government. When it comes to an employer,
(53:46):
it's totally different. The freedom of speech no longer applies
to that. This is an freedom of speech is a
government thing. It's not a private entity thing.
Speaker 2 (53:56):
No, that's free speech meeting the free market. And they're
perfectly clear to say whatever you want. But your boss
is also perfectly free to say I don't want that
kind of crap in my office. So when you come
out and promote violence and murder and applaud assassinations, yeah,
I think a place that doesn't want workplace violence possibly trust.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
How could I possibly trust a nurse that says I'm
glad he's dead and there should be more. How could
I possibly trust an EMT that says that? How could
I trust a teacher that dances and.
Speaker 2 (54:32):
Enjoy I was I just saw a video today of
a teacher doing something like that, Like he was taking
one of these videos in his home and talking on
you know, Charlie Kirk brought this on himself and the
racism and the hatred and the anti summitism, and he
deserved what came to him.
Speaker 1 (54:48):
And Ryan Fournier has done such a marvelous job of
finding these people.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
Well, I just it dawned on me as I'm watching
this video It's like these are the same one. He's
a clear leftist. I mean suspect he might be also gay,
but I'm not. You know, I can't say for sure,
but these are the very same people that are coming
out and praising his death and saying this. You know,
more of this should happen. If you mis gender somebody,
(55:15):
they lose their ever loving mind. You want people to die?
Oh my god, you got to stop doing that. Yeah, death,
and that was acceptable.
Speaker 1 (55:23):
We were not killing the transgender community. They were killing us.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
And so if I you know dead, name somebody that's
held up as like the highest crime in society. Oh,
you're hateful in the transphobe and you want people to die.
You just called for somebody to die. You're applauding it. Well,
that's my free speech. This is the thing. They want
it both ways, and I'm sorry, no, you told us no.
(55:50):
In fact, now you know, like Pam BONDI came out
into saying that like hate speech is unacceptable. You know,
I'm kind of putting the brakes on this. So that's
that's going too far to free markets. One thing. And
we saw reactions taking place before anybody was promoting this.
I mean the night of the shooting, MSNBC fired Matthew
(56:13):
doubt for his comments. Carolina Panthers did so, and a
number of other businesses then went through it, and that
was all natural. Nobody was promoting these individuals to get
them fired. They were getting fired on their own. That
wasn't cancel culture. That's accountability now. Pam Bondi was coming
(56:35):
out and saying she was commenting about that office depot
story where the people came in to have you know,
Charlie Kirk flyers made up because they wanted to hold
a vigil and the people in the store were like, no,
we're not We can't produce that. We can't make political signage.
That's against policies, despite the fact that they do it
(56:56):
for elections, no problem, but it was clear they were
being selective. Pam Bondi wants to force this now. I'm
not agreeable that, but a lot of people are losing
their mind about this. Oh look at that conservative Now
I want to cancel businesses. It's like, excuse me. This
falls under the exact same category as bake the cake. Yes,
(57:18):
because you were forcing businesses to bow to you, and
when they didn't, what did you do? You brought the
government in and forced them into court. You brought this
on and so yeah, if you want to sit there
and bitch your moan about office depot, turn around and
do it in a mirror, because this is your doing. Well.
It was the name of that bakery with list Sweetcakes
(57:39):
or something like that, I think so one in Colorado.
They've gone to court numerous times for this, like yeah,
it's graduated up to the Supreme Court and they've had
numerous lawsuits brought against them because they're doing this in
activist fashion. They have people going in there like I'm
gay and getting married, I want to cake. Sorry, we
(58:00):
don't do that.
Speaker 1 (58:01):
I'm gonna sit And they do it on purpose because
there's there's other bakeries. You could go to any other bakery.
Speaker 2 (58:07):
It's not saying clear activism that they're doing. So they're
trying to force their hand on a business. And yet
here in this case carbon copy, it's just on the
other side, they're trying to force businesses to make flyers
for a Charlie Kirk vigil, bake the cake, print the flyer.
It's the same thing. I'm not saying I agree with it,
(58:28):
but you're the ones that put these rules on us.
Speaker 1 (58:30):
So but on top of it, you know, to defend
office depot. They absolutely have no no thing about not
printing propaganda. Because how do I know this because I
was at an office depot last year where I was
(58:51):
when I was with my you know, helping my dad out,
and we went to an office depot. He needed some
I don't know, ain't Carter, I don't know what it
was that he needed, and they were literally printed biting
several Biden flyers to put it was like the the
(59:12):
I want to say it was the McKellan Democrats or
whatever whatever they want to call themselves. Whatever it was
the city, but they were having a like a get
together and it had Biden on it and had this,
and it had that, you know, blah blah blah and
all that stuff. So you cannot tell me that they
don't do it. I've literally seen them do it. It's
(59:32):
not against their policy. The woman lied, she didn't want
to do it.
Speaker 2 (59:37):
And that's you know. And again I'm I'm not one
to push this. I'm not one that you know, well,
you better you have to. I'm the opinion of go
O Lensky on this. Make them accountable to their own rules,
make them abide what they've forced on us. And that's
what cancel culture is too. You you people, you're so
(59:59):
h critical you hate cancel culture. Yeah, we do, and
you're still doing it. Here's the difference, though, we're talking
about things that you just said yesterday. Your cancel culture
involved going back a decade and finding crap on Twitter
that they wrote when they were in high school and
bring that back and punish him over. You were the
(01:00:22):
one calling for murder yesterday.
Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
I had my friend Ethan Zehor. He was on the
tech team for Jeb Bush when he was running for
in twenty sixteen, and they did that to him. They
went back several years to find something on his Twitter
feed and they held it against him and he was
(01:00:49):
forced to quit that job. He lost his ENTI, he
had his startup, he lost that, so he had to
start all over again. It's brilliant guy, so he wasn't
out for long. He actually made a temporary app called
clear so that you could clear your Twitter. He was
(01:01:11):
and he was featured on Fox Business and the guy
looked at him, It's like, I guess this is how
you bounce back. He's like, nothing can keep me down,
and I was like, you go Ethan. I mean they
did it to him simply for being a tech guy
for Jeff Bush's campaign. They can do it to anybody,
(01:01:31):
and they did. They did it to a lot of people.
They did to one of the the young man. And
I think you're more familiar than you know that. There
were several students from the Parkland shooting that became activists,
but one in particular is not left wing. I forget
(01:01:53):
his name, but he was denied his Harvard they took away.
Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Yeah, I was Kyle kushev him.
Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
They went they did that to him. They went back
through his Twitter feed, found something he wrote when he
was like fourteen, and tried to cancel him.
Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
I've seen ninstances where there was a college football player.
I want to see it. Went the UF and they
went back and found a video of him from like
his sophomore year in high school, when all he was
doing was singing a rap song and he used the
lyrics and he said those words that white people aren't
allowed to say. He was singing it was the lyrics
(01:02:35):
of a song. They brought that up to cancel them. Yeah,
and that's the kind of crap they played. But if
you say, oh, Charlie Kirk should have been murdered, and
there should be more Republicans that die. That's ooh, you're.
Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Going to get a jazz. I don't think so. No,
or he's right. They're mad because the right is really,
really good at playing this game, and they don't seem
to understand that. There's a reason we didn't play that game.
We didn't want to play that game because we knew
what would happen. We know what.
Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
We told them this, and we told them, we told them.
Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
It's the same thing with the filibuster. We told them,
this is what's going to happen. You don't want to
do this, but they would do it anyway. They have
no concept of long term effect none. It's always for
the immediate satisfaction of the now. It's never about what
(01:03:32):
would happen if further on in the future, you know,
do we want to do No, they never think about that.
It's always immediate.
Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Well, I mean they're bitching about cancel culture right now
after one of ours got murdered. I don't care. Sorry,
Oh no, one of them a little lower on the
scale than the other.
Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Gosh, what was what's his name? Gutman? I think it was.
Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
From what.
Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Matt Gutman from ABC was talking about the text messages
and all that stuff. Yeah, and I'm like, what is this?
Are you serious right now?
Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
Along with his admission to the crime, there were also
heartfelt messages I'm doing this to protect you, my love,
and I'm looking forward, my love, to our time together.
And it was deeply moving to see the affection between
these Are you fucking getting me?
Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
He was literally notes from a sniper.
Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
He was literally trying to humanize the guy that dehumanized
another person to the point of killing him. You can't
reason with these people. They're so entr in this particular
point of view.
Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
Are the very people that need to be mocked and
ridiculed and shamed mercilessly. This guy, Gutman, I'm gonna have
all kinds of fun with him. Trust me, I'm keeping
tabs on him for some time. There was I caught
Scott MacFarlane over the weekend doing this on CBS where
he was bringing up the comments from the Utah governor,
(01:05:30):
you know, and they're talking about how now understand this
is after two three days of them incessantly trying to
insist that the shooter was from the right. He was
raised in a Republican family, and they trained him on
guns at an early age, and they brought about this
from the deeply conservative household. All of that, and notice
(01:05:53):
what else we saw this. They put up all of
these photographs of him when he's twelve. They don't want
to acknowledge any of the evidence that it's come up
of him as an adult. The text messages the things
he was doing, the people he might have been a feeling. Oh,
that Dutch kind of stuff doesn't matter. So there's Scott
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McFarlane quoting the governor. The governor insisted that transgenderism at
this point in time has no bearing on the shooting,
and there's no connectivity that can be seen. This is
a journalist, okay, and here's the game he played. He's
relying on one individual not involved in the investigation. Well,
(01:06:37):
the governor said it. So that's what we're going to
report on. Meanwhile, and this is in Axios and a
couple other outlets. They spoke to like half a dozen
people in the FBI. Every one of them said, we're
focusing on the transgender activists angled because that's what everything
is coming up. We're in his home and apartment. We're
looking at the text messages, we got his laptop, we're
(01:06:57):
looking at his communications with his gaming systems, and it's
all pointing in the same direction. And this was actually
reported on and the journalists are like, well, the governor
said it didn't matter, so we're not going to talk
about it. This is kind of ask cases we have
to deal with. So yeah, I'm going hard on these people.
(01:07:20):
And they keep bringing up, you know, the Josh Shapiro firebombing.
Let's not forget that. It's like, really, because you seem
to forget that was a pro Palestinian individual who opposed
him being Jewish and pro Israel. That's who fire bombed him.
By the way, he met a Hassan Dick. I mean,
it is just amazing.
Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
I do want to say something that has bothered me.
There have been some people on the left who have
denounced this act, and rightly so. But what bothers me
is that they do not counsel their followers, the people
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on their comments section when they actually say, no, the
guy deserved it. And I'm like, it's not enough for
you to condemn the act. You have to condemn those
who actually relished in it because you need to start
policing your side. This is something that the left always accuses,
(01:08:27):
is accuses the right of doing not policing our side
when something bad happens on our side. And I'm like,
what are you talking about. We're the first ones to
kick those people to the curve, but it's never good
enough for them. For them, it's not good enough for
us to just get rid of them from you know.
(01:08:47):
There's an awesome clip of Charlie Kirk who is for
some reason, people say that he's just anti gay, and
I'm like, there's a difference. You can love the person,
you just cannot approve if they're you know, way of life.
But that's separate. And he always tried to explain that.
(01:09:11):
And there was this one guy who was really anti gay,
conservative Trump supporter, and he completely eviscerated that kid. Charlie
was not going to have that you. He told him
straight out, if you are not able to accept somebody
regardless of their sexual preference or whatever, then you are
(01:09:33):
not a conservative, and just drop the mic right the
mic right there. And I was like, that is a
conviction that a lot of people on the left do
not understand. They don't understand that you can accept someone
under your tent regardless of their sexual orientation, regardless of
(01:09:56):
their color, regardless of the you know, the netionality, regardless
of any of that stuff. And I saw when, you know,
in twenty twenty four when we were having the Republican
Convention and there were a lot of people up there
speaking who were not conservatives, and yet they felt more
at home under that tent than they felt over at
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the end of the Democratic tent.
Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
Well, this is something else that we set seeing this
past week, past few days at least, is that all
of the misquotes attributed to Charlie Kirk, they bring up stuff, Oh,
here's the time when he said all black women don't
have the skills to be successful. Karen Atia just got
fired from the Washington Post because she put that in
(01:10:45):
quotation marks as if he had said that when he
did not, and she was referencing a discussion he was
having about Joy Read and a number of others, specifically
those individs, because those were individuals who actually attested to
benefiting from affirmative action and or DEI, and that's what
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he was saying.
Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
He had a problem with DEI the same problem with
DEI that I have. And I'm speaking as somebody who
would benefit from DEI. I though that for the biggest
millstone around my neck when I was getting hired to
do any kind of job with fucking Affirmative Action, that
was always around my neck because and it is an insult.
(01:11:33):
These things are insult your Puerto Rican Yeah, I checked.
I'm sorry. I'm coming clean with that now, forgive me.
But these this is this is what it's an insult.
You're basically telling me I can't do this on my
own without government help. That's what I get out of
Affirmative Action, and that's what I get out of DEI.
(01:11:54):
And that's what Charlie was trying to tell people DEI.
It's it's it's that it's not the people that are
being hired through THEI. He has absolutely nothing, He has
nothing bad to say about those people. It's the concept
whereby you are not the Merit is not the top issue,
(01:12:17):
and it is an insult to those who are being
hired through THEI, because what it's telling you is that
you have to meet certain physical criteria before we can
think of the mental criteria. That's an insult. I don't
care who I find it to be insulting.
Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
It is. It's absolutely that. And the other thing that
they're saying about him too that's false is they were
saying that they were quoting anti Semitic things that he
had said. And then the New York Times, of all
places that was doing a compendium of his quotes and
supposedly was looking into this, they had to be corrected
and they had to issue what editors knows, like, it's
(01:12:58):
come to our attention he was quoting somebody else and
then condemned them. Yeah, yeah, oh so you mean the
exact opposite of what you claimed. And then for about
a solid day people were saying he was promoting stoning
of gay people. And again, like all the other examples,
it was based on either one quote or a twelve
or fifteen second recording, not the broader conversation. And in
(01:13:23):
that instance, somebody had thrown an Old Testament quote at him,
and he threw out another one too and said, well,
it says right here than anybody that performs in this
needs to be stoned. He wasn't saying he agreed with it.
He was pointing out that these are archaic Old Testament
standards that no longer applied after the New Testament game
into play.
Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
That's and this is something that a lot of people
that tried to use Christianity against Christians don't understand. Our
Bible progressed, our own Christian sects actually progressed, we go
through a reformation, We actually evolve. I can't say that
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for a certain political ideology masquerading as a religion, and
we all know which one that is because it is
absolute according to them, But we tend to do that.
We do actually evolve from you know. And and this
is something that they use a lot of the stuff
in the Old Testament against Christians, and every time somebody
(01:14:25):
tries doing it to me, it's like, yeah, can we
skip forward to the part where we do become Christian
and use those because those are the ones that apply
to my religion. It's like, oh, so you don't believe
in the Old Testament. I'm like, that's not what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
Well, we were coming up against time, so we should
probably try to squeeze a couple more things in.
Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
Maybe I think we should talk about the world records
that were broken this week, because frankly, it was amazing
to me that I will say one of them total
mom move total.
Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
Yeah, this is the one that jumped out and that
is a new racing world record. I guess you could
call it. Is that technically the category this falls under.
And it's uh, you know, I guess appropriately by a mom.
(01:15:32):
But where's her?
Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
Where's she at? Here we go? Gabriel Wall from New
Zealand sprinted one hundred meters to set a brand new
record barefoot was a component of the record. She uh
covered the one hundred meters in just twenty four point
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seventy five seconds for the new official record of hunting
over lego bricks barefooted.
Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
It's like, damn woman, I will say this is it
had to be done by a mom. We grew up
in a minefield of legos, dodging everything in the middle
of the night, okay, dodging stuff around dead corners of
the coffee table, dodging all sorts of everywhere. It's women.
(01:16:27):
Women are trained for this stuff, so I am not surprised,
not surprised at all. Kudos to her.
Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Yes, you know, fine work, fine work at that. Now,
as I don't know, seems to be inevitable when these
things come up, you know, like the Guinness people. I'm serious,
have I understand everything about this. I understand why they
do the World's records and such, but they are to
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the point now where they just have these arcane achievements
for the sake of getting press. And I'm not complaining.
It's like, good on you guys, because your name's out
there every single time. But I mean the records they got.
One guy has just set a new mark for the
(01:17:23):
most ping pong balls that he spits against the wall
in thirty seconds. There's videos, he has to stand a
set amount and this is what's so amazing is that
for all of these dumb ass records, they have like
serious parameters that you have to follow to become a
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new record holder. So there's like a set distance from
the wall that you have to stand. There's tape on
the ground, and what he does is put a ping
pong ball in his mouth. When they say go, he
spits it on the wall and catches it in his
mouth again and has to do this consecutively. He's broken
the record now for the third time. His previous mark
(01:18:09):
was forty one, and then he bested that by doing
this forty seven times in thirty seconds. And now his
probably a new record. He broke fifty fifty one times
of spitting a bing bong ball repeatedly against the wall.
Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
Amazing.
Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
Damn dude, save some of the tricks for the rest
of us.
Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
I'm like, why, I mean, I understand the lego thing,
believe it or not. I understand the lego thing, because,
as you said, they're making slippers for this exact purpose.
Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
But another one emerged during my research. And by research,
I mean shit, you're spilled up on my screen when
I pulled the story up. I think this was in Spain.
Man said another one hundred meter mark running backwards while
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wearing women's high heels. And you know that they have
to have, you know, some kind of metric involved here,
that the heel height has to be of a certain
amount and that kind of nonsense. Can't have a tread
(01:19:31):
on the bottom of the wedge, and you know, stop
it already. This guy that spits the ping pong balls,
they said, he currently has one hundred and eighty one
different Guinness records to his name.
Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
I could not believe when I heard that he had
so many, I was like, but why, well, maybe this
is his job breaking records.
Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
You know, and I I have covered one last year too,
where they have it, uh the fastest that you can
drink an entire caprice sun. And I saw the video
of you guys, he's attempting this record and it had
the thing has to be positioned. You have straws on
the table first, then you pick the strap and insert it,
(01:20:19):
and then you have to inhale it all the way
and there's a minimum amount of fluid that can be
retained inside like they Afterwards they cut the bag and
they pour it out to see if there's any left
stop it and right before we go, as we like
to do is broaden horizons, minds and the edification of
our listeners through science.
Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
Right yeah we could we Yeah whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
Look, I'm trying to help people. I don't know what
your problem is. But there was a study out of
the Netherlands in which they wanted to find out basically
investigating mosquito biting preferences, trying to find out what it
(01:21:07):
is specifically that may or may not attract mosquitoes. And
so they bring in people stick their arm in a
box filled with the bugs, and they also have it's
like a sugar dish or something, and then They want
to see what draws the mosquitos more than any other things,
and have come to a conclusion that people who have
(01:21:28):
been drinking beer or have had sex within the last
day tend to attract more of the flying vampires. So
if you are an individual prone to certain vices, you
(01:21:49):
might be prone to mosquitoes. I might be what you
call a high risk candidate as a result of this.
And I'm Dutch. I don't know if that compounds my threat.
Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
I you know, I read the whole study and I
love that. The way the study that they ended everything
like yeah, we have we have nothing to gain from this,
and uh yeah, so we're done. They just walked away
from it.
Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
The Mosquito magnet Trial, to our knowledge, the largest study
of its kind, was conducted in a loosely controlled setting
with selection bias towards science loving festival goers. Basically, these
are people who are having a good time in drinking
and they're like, yeah, I was sticking my arm and
a box full of bugs. So there you go.
Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
Science amazing. Well it was a good sciencey thing. That's
a nice way to wrap up Tonight's Tonight's podcast, So
I guess it's why don't you just take a deep
breath as usual, because you have a lot to say
(01:23:10):
and tell us where we can find you.
Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
Your resentment is palpable, you'll be quiet and just say it.
I am available daily over at town hall dot com,
where I have a media column called Rift from the Headlines.
I'm also on the front page of Red State, and
you can see my twice weekly podcast or more likely
to hear it called Liable Sources, where I go into
the deeper asses of the mainstream media, and you can
(01:23:37):
hear more of me on this network. Thursday night, I'll
be back here on the air with Orty Packer because
he and I will bring you through the vital entertainment
information on the Culture Shift Alternate Thursdays, it's me and
Paul Young with bad movies on Disasters in the Making
every Tuesday, of course at eight and a half with
the ever Effrovis and Agie Reekin. And if you need
more of me than that less space that you do,
(01:23:59):
head over to you. I'm at Martini Shark. And what
about you, Aggie? Where can people find more of your magnificence?
Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
You can find me for now at Aggie the barkeep
over on X you can find me eight thirty pm
Eastern Tuesday nights doing the cocktail Lounge with the EVERSWAPU
a thirty pm Eastern Friday nights doing the he said,
She said, with the awesome rowdy Rick. Usually the second
Wednesday of every month at eight pm we get together
(01:24:30):
for Toxic Masculinity and the last, but not least, Jeff
and I now do Spirited Books and that is on
the first Monday of every month at eight thirty pm
Eastern as well. Aggie time. Thank you so huge.
Speaker 2 (01:24:46):
You're not a masculinity.
Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
I'm not a masculinity, but I do tend the bar
and I serve the drink for all of the gentlemen.
I'm a barbabe.
Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
You're the eye candy for the No.
Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
No, I'm just a bartender. I'm not dieing. I'm not
eye candy anyway. Thanks so much for joining us. Everyone.
We hope you have a great evening.
Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
And go raise a glass and look at the ceiling.
Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
Goodbye to you, my trusted friends. We've known each other
since we.
Speaker 2 (01:25:30):
Were nine or ten.
Speaker 1 (01:25:33):
Together, we've climbed hills and trees, learned of love and
abc skin their hearts and skin their knees. Goodbye, my friend.
It's hard to die when all the birds are singing
in the sky. No that the spring is in