The Cocktail Lounge w/ Aggie and Brad: Bob and Weaves

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:29):
The following program contains course language and adult themes listenery.
Discretion is advised and Welcome to another episode of The

(01:06):
Cocktail Lounge. I am her hostess with the Mostes Aggie,
and with me as always is the everswave affable and
quaffable co host Brat Slager. How are you doing this evening, Brad.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
I'm doing good. I'm doing good. I'm finally almost in
the phase of downshifting a little bit. It's been kind
of a hectic summer here, but going well enough on
this side. How about yourself, how's your upheaval going this summer?

Speaker 1 (01:34):
I need to go to the liquor store. Actually, I
know that I'm teasing. Some of you may know my mom.
I brought my mom up with me this past Sunday,
so she'll be with me for about two weeks and
then she'll go back with my younger sister. But you know,

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she's made herself at home and she's I think she's
looking forward to maybe moving in with us. So this
is like a trial run for her. She's not ready.
She's not ready to give up her independence though, so
and I'm in no hurry for her to do it either.
But you know, she's been liking it. She checked out

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the guests house. She said, yeah, I could, I could
live here.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
I'll see. This is the this is you're out because
if you make a big enough mess then she won't
want to.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
She has kept me, she's kept me quite occupied. I
thought my house was clean until I got here and
she told me it was not. Today it was launder day.
I did three loads.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Did you inform her that you haven't been there because
you've been with her?

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Oh? Yes. She actually got upset because one of my
indoor plants was wilted and needing water and all that stuff,
and she was like, how could you let this happen?
As I was literally with you for three weeks And
she's like, you could you could have watered it before
you did. I did. I watered it before I left.
I watered all my plants before I left. And she's just, well, then,

(03:11):
why is it like this. I'm like, I don't know
about you, but there's another person who lives here with me,
and he could have done it, but apparently he forgot.
But she was blaming me for the plant wilty because
I was not here to take care of it completely
bypassing the fact that I was with her taking care

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of her stuff. So yeah, that's that's my life.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
You've never heard of ice cubes.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
I should have gotten one of those bulbs that you
stick in the soil and it just slowly, you know,
dissipates water or whatever. But I didn't think to do that.
I should have, I should have, but I didn't.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yes, yes, I understand you've failed significantly.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
I know I have. I'm just I'm horrible.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
But oh well, well it's been Yeah, it's been kind
of a curious summer too, because basically I'm in this
like loll I have no idea what to do without hockey.
Of course, I don't watch baseball, and every time we
go to the bar, that's basically all that's on now, No, don't.

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Thank god it's not basketball, so that's not so bad.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
But how do you not watch baseball? I mean, that's
a that's the all American pastime.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
I'm not enough physical contact, I guess not. I I
used to be a big baseball fan, like in the eighties,
and they kind of they kind of killed my passion
for it with the strike And when they actually canceled

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the World Series, I was like, you just did it?
You just killed it for me. It wasn't me, you know,
reactionary that I refused to know. It was just literally
they killed the passion off. I was like, I don't
care about this anymore.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
No, that's true. There was there were issues.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
But I mean, like, yes, yesterday late, I guess maybe
last night the announcement Ryan Sandberg, great baseball player from
the eighties, passed away. And he was my favorite back
then with the Cubs. Just fantastic player all around, probably
one of the best second basement ever. And yeah, you know,
it was like, holy crap, Rhino died. That's you know,

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kind of a kind of affected me a little bit
because of that. But no, I mean ever since then,
I you know, I used to divide right between. It
was like hockey would be over, Okay, we'll go to baseball,
and then baseball would start wrapping up a little bit,
and then the hockey season would start up. But yeah,
literally after the strike, it's like, hey, you know, I'm
doing other things, and that's I just I moved from

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baseball and I just never came back. And now it's
I don't know, any of the players got to wait.
Even when the Marlins won the World series a couple
of times like, no, it's cool, I'm pulling for him.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
But I don't know you guys.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
No, I mean I did back then it was still
you know, I followed it tangentially, but then throughout the
years after it was just like just dripped it away.
It was did other things, got involved with other stuff,
and then just never came back. So, I mean baseball
just kind of I don't hate it or anything if
it's on, but it's like I just don't know anybody,

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so I've got no vested interest. So there's fifteen televisions
with players I do not know, so got it. Way
it works. But the other night we did have the
Professional Pillow Fighting Championship was on.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
I cannot believe that's still a thing. Yeah, I thought
that was a flash in the pan, like one year
and then it would be, you know, everybody made fun
of it, go away.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Well that's it wasn't people making fun of it. But
it was like ESPN does the O Show. It's like
their joke games from the movie Dodgeball. I think they're
doing it for an entire month now, I don't know,
it's like every last couple of weeks, it's still been
going on. It used to be just either one day
or one weekend. But yeah, we were sitting in the bar,
like one of the TV's in the back. I saw

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it and I was like, holy crap. I'm like sick
of the baseball. It's eight thirty at night on a
Friday or so. I was like, Lindsey, can we get
thirty two and put it on the main screen. She's like,
are you kidding me with this? I was like, seriously,
bring it. So it comes on, and you know we're
because there's like a dining room in a bar area
that we're in. I'm in the bar and it was

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kind of full, and it comes on and everybody was like,
what the hell are we watching? What the hell is this?
And I'm getting into it just as a lark. We're
talking about pill A Fighting Championship PFC. Come on, You're like,
this ain't a real thing, and it was a real thing.
And then one guy comes in the ring Chocolate Thunder
is his name on his shirt, Thunder, So everybody's laughing

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at this. And then at the start of the fight
and the other guy's got joker makeup on, so they're
standing there with the referee before the fight and then
they put their graphics up and the guy is literally
from one town over from us. He's a local.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Oh that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Can I interrupt the second as you're talking about the ochaw?
I just want to remind everyone the US National Hobbyhorse
Championship is coming up August.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Second, why is this even a thing?

Speaker 2 (08:42):
I think they promoed that during one of the games
Saturday when we were there, they were the whiffle ball
competition was on and they had a highlight for it.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Is it that Kinks are down sports? Is that what
we're at now? Yah?

Speaker 2 (09:02):
But I was I just I was just laughing because
we're sitting there, you know, I'm artificially getting into the
pillow Fight Championship. And then a guy I'm not even
kidding Plantation, Florida. I was like, are you kidding me?
He's one of us? And then the entire bar was
into its hilarious.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Well, you know, sometimes goodwill and you know something fun
can bring people together, especially when they have literally no
dogs in the fight.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Well, this is what I'm here for, is to bring
excitement to people's lives. It's what I do. So I
jazzed up the bar that night, and by the time
we left, everybody was kind of laughing and commiserating with
each other. And my job is done here. Also, I've
had too many and I got to get home. But nonetheless,
I'll tell you what wasn't on the television though. WNBA.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Hmm, yeah, I can't imagine why.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
I can various reasons, but.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Sorry, there is a little evil of me.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
But yeah, a little bit of an undercurt racism in
the w NBA, and it's kind of reverse racism because
predominantly it is populated by POC individuals. However, you know,
the arrival of Caitlin Clark a season ago just created
all kinds of tremors. And the thing I love is

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now one of her teammates is a very statue besque
blonde white player who has now been standing up for
Katelin Clark and become a name for herself. And she's
also kind of hot, and she's now getting attention and
taking it from angeal Re. So this is causing even
more discord in the league. I guess a few days

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ago or something, she this other player made some comments
about Arby's or something. Everybody was ragging OUs, so she
showed up wearing a skin tight T shirt and very
tight shorts, and it just said hot girls love Arby's,
just kind of like a you know, sticking in your face.
She's now got an endorsement deal from Arbi.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Well that's yeah. I think a lot of them have
learned too that trolling is one way to get noticed,
and it's a pretty safe way to get noticed. I mean,
when you troll somebody, it's like you're not really harming them.
It doesn't cost, there's no emotional cost except you know,

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somebody's laughing at you. But that's about it.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
But I just wondering, now, though, if you do have
attractive lady selling your sandwiches at Arby's, are you still
going to go with the tagline we have the meat.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, that might. They might have to work on that
a littone, you know, who.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Would run into a problem or you could you know,
make something out of that too.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
I'm just you can just say we get the meats.
Oh my god, I'm going to.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Hell your people call their people.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
But you know, like to your point, the whole issue
with this Rees character. I've watched her play and honestly,
I turn off the the volume when I'm watching these
games because I want I just want to see the style,

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you know, and I don't I don't want to hear anything.
I don't, I don't care. I just want to see
their their playing styles and everything. And I'm not a
big baseball basketball person. But my niece is she you know,
went through high school basketball. She is now the intermural

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or basketball team that she's in the military, so they
have their own you know, basketball team thing going and
all that stuff. And she and I sat down and
while we were at my mom's and we watched some
of the games, you know when I said with but
like I said, without the sound, because we just wanted
to see the style to play, the way they flowed

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on the and she just was ripping her apart. She's like,
I don't understand why people like this person. Her style
is completely weird. She you know, she's like she's not
really good. I mean'd look at that and she's like
pointing at every you know, every miss shot, every miss rebound,

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every miss everything. And I was like, why is she
even popular? I'm like, I have no idea. I honestly
don't know why she's popular. And it's basely for me.
It's like the squeaky wheel. That's that's the only thing
I can I can think about.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Because she's not popular because of her gameplay. It's all
slay queen kind of attitude, is what it is. And
they all embrace that, and it's like, are you go girl?
You know, and then she's popular.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
But it's a disservice to the you know, that whole
female empowerment crap, which I don't subscribe to at all.
But if you want to encourage younger girls, ladies whatever,

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you know, high school girls or whatever and going into
professional basketball, you should at least be a good player.
I remember when you know, the NWNBA started and Ryl
Soups was like the big name, and she did. She
was an excellent player, and she went out there and
she talked to girls about how hard you have to

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work to get to that point. She missed no words,
but she encouraged a lot of young girls into going
into you know, basketball, And I really admired that about
her because she she actually did. She went out there
and she talked to girls and she said that there
is a you know, there is good sportsmanship and you

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have to you know, do this and do that and everything.
It wasn't about this thuggish, you know culture that has
taken over the WNBA, and that's what it is. And
I think that was one of the biggest things that
really graded on me when they decided to do away
with the term thug because it was racist. I was like,

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it's not racist. Thug was not a racist term. They
made it racist because it just so happened that a
certain percentage of the population that happened to be this
particular race tended to be thuggish.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
And this is they were mad about the accuracy. Yes,
and is it just like this particular group that we're referencing, however,
are thugs and they happen to be black. But that's
something they can't delineate. You're not allowed to no.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
And it's it's it's amoking.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
I used to.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
There was one awesome, awesome cooking blog that I followed,
Thug Kitchen. I love that place. The guy was hilarious.
He was dropping f bombs all over the place, but
the food was excellent and he taught you how to cook,
and he taught to you, you know, techniques and all
that stuff. I love that place. And then he decided

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to actually rebrand and apologize for using that term even
though he was he was African American, and a lot
of people asked him, why are you doing this? It
is your brand, and he's said, well, you know, it's
it's not good to be a thug. Somebody asked him

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straight up, well are you one? And he was like, well,
what kind of question is that. It's like, no, it's
an honest question. If you are one, then there's a reason.
But if you're not, then why are you afraid of
the word. It's actually your brand, it's what made you famous,
you know. And so he ended up. Basically the blog

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started dying because people were just fed up with this
woke ideology that was infiltrating everything, especially around the word thug.
So it was sad, but I stopped going.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
I was like kind of what the Lady Antebellum did
to themselves too, because they just ask out of the
Black Lives Movement. So now we're Lady eight because we
don't want to be racist. Okay, well problem, you just
changed your name to one that's used by a black
singer who goes and then suitor gonelations and they've really

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kind of fallen off the map ever since too. They
haven't really impactful hits. Well, another reason not to watch
the w NBA just occurred. There's a dandy little video
out there during gay I love the w NBA game
played videos when they show up like, oh man, this
game's electric, and you'll watch them shoot like four air
balls in a row, you know that kind of thing.

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This is a I have no idea who the teams
were with this curious little video in the middle of
game playing, and there was no contact or anything. The
girl was bouncing the ball. I think they call it dribbling.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
If I'm not mistaken, I believe that is the correcter.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yes, wikipedia Uh. While she was doing that bounce, all
of a sudden, she like turns to center court, called
time out, threw the ball away, and trots off the
court and literally no contact was made. So everybody's kind
of looking around, and then they show her racing down

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the tunnel into the locker room. Her weave came loose.
Her wigs. I just can't why why are you wearing
one to begin with during gameplay? I mean, I'm sorry,
but but what why wouldn't you just take like pop

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it off your head throat to the bench and fix
it later? Or something. You've got to stop the game
and then race into the locker room. And then it
was a ten minute delay in the game.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Which is ridiculous. That shouldn't even happen.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
And then and I'm watching his videos like this is
not I'm this in no way this is real. And
then I watched the referees go to the scoring bench
and there's arena security that came up, and at one
point you could hear him talking and they're addressing a
problem with a fan. The fan was making fun of

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the fact that the girl had to race off the
court because of a wig. Now this became an issue.
And when they're going to be escorting this individual from
the arena, how have you? No, are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (20:13):
I have so many issues with this. I cannot even
begin to tell you how many issues I have with us.
First of all, the fact that this player actually was
sporting a wig while she was a weave while she
was playing. You're at it's a sport, okay, it's and

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it can be a contact sport because people are flaying
their arms all over the place. People are like trying
to go under the you know, under the hoop and
blah blah, blah, you'll hit somebody and everything. So it's
a very active game. You're up and down the court,
you're running all over the place. I had Okay, I
had a girlfriend who was a long distance runner, and

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she was really good at it. She came in third
in state, you know, and everything, and I mean, and
she went to college on a scholarship, and she even
qualified for the Olympic trials back in ninety six. She
had to remove her weave because it was considered a liability.

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And unless that stuff is like snapped onto your skull
like they do two pays nowadays, I don't see how
this could ever be a thing. I mean, even when
she wasn't running or anything, sometimes it would come loose
and she would have to make an appointment to have

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it redone and all that stuff and everything, and she
always you know, she made fun of herself for the
whole situation, but she understood that if she is actually
in competition, that has to come off because it is
considered a lie reility could come off in any second.
I mean, it's not a permanent addition to your hair.

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It's literally synthetic hair that's woven in.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
This is proving out though what is going on in
the WM because if you watch too any game, half
the players got like audaciously big eyelashes and they're glaming
it up to go play a game. They're not worried
about competition, winning or all that.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
It's exposure and that is a problem and it has
become it is a liability when you're out there playing
because you're wearing a false lilash that could come loose
because of the sweat that you're experiencing will out there
and that could actually, you know, damage your eye or

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make you look stupid or you know, I don't know
any It's it's just like sometimes it would drive me clase.
I've loved her and she will live on as well,
one of the greatest athletes of my era. But flow
Jo and her nails drive drove me crazy. It drove

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the bad shit insane. I'm like, how can you be like,
if you're you know, if you're doing the you know,
the where you're passing the baton to the next person
or whatever, I forget what it's called. That can that
can be a liability? And she did. She broke an
aail during one of those and and she complained about it.

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I mean, she obviously she came in first. There was
no doubt this one was gonna be like, you know,
coming in first. But yeah, she complained about breaking anail,
and I'm like, you have shards, acrylic shards on the
end of your fingers. Of course something's gonna happen. And
she learned her lesson, and you know, she would tame

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it down for competition, but she would still sport the
red white and nail art and all that stuff. It's
just not as long as before. This is the same
kind of thing when it comes to women in this
particular sport. I've not seen tennis players doing this. I've

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not seen a lot of track and field women doing this,
but I have seen a lot of the women in
the basketball doing it. And I don't under I don't
get it. I don't.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
I don't either, and I don't try to. It's just
when these videos crop up and just make it laugh.
Thank god, I didn't invest money in that, whether it
was buying a ticket or just getting any kind of
like home viewing. It's like, why why would I bother?
Why would I care? I don't, but I was.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
I didn't think, I tell you that, but I stayed
the night Advice stairs on the way up here, and
you know, the plan was for me to do this
on Saturday. She asked me if I wanted to go
catch a Wnba gang because she gets tickets where she

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works at, you know, And I said I would rather
clip my nails in a queasy night. Thanks.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
She's like, Okay, no, I mean, and it might be
interesting to go see one if in that instance, if
I was giving free tickets, like, oh, I can say
I've done it, but I don't know that I would
say I about it even if I did it. That's
the thing. But the conflict, the off the court nonsense

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in the drama. Is it something that's existing now in
our society and we're seeing it take place right now
because oh my god, can you believe a corporation in
this country is using a hot look and spokes model.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Amazing, isn't it. It's like we've come full circle from
Oh I don't know. I still remember Calvin Klein. Nothing
gets between me and my Calvins. You know, remember Brickshields.
Brickshields was the face of Calvin Klein. I remember when
Calvin Klein had adverts that had a woman and she

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was like toirling with a scarf, see through chiffon scarf,
and she was topless, but she was, you know, showing
off the genes. But she was topless and you could tell.
And that was I remember. It wasn't an issue of Vogue.
I remember all this stuff that this was standard back

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in the eighties, it was standard back in the nineties,
it was standard back in the two thousands. And then
the body positivity movement came in. I said, oh no, oh, no, no, no,
this is this is the patriarchy they and it went
away for a while and now it's great and I'm
very happy.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
What didn't come in.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Profits, that's right, because I honestly thought American Egel had
gone bankrupt because I stopped seeing shit. I was like,
I'm not shopping there anymore. What's what's the point?

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah, And it used to be American Eagle was like,
you know, the swarthy, good looking individuals wearing their clothing
and you want it was something that marketing understands and
that the woke activists left this liberal aspect of this
country does not understand. A lot of consumerism in this

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country is aspirational. You know, you get hit with these
images that you know, if you wear this buy this drink,
that you'll become what we're portraying. And that's kind of
the thing, not that you know you're gonna have the
perfect body or such. But I'm part of the cool kids,
is what it's summarized as I've got to find it.

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There was a brilliant commercial that was a mock up
of what was going on, and then it was a
I think it was for a drink, and it started
out with that prototypical glamour where you like crack open
a can of something, and then everybody turns into tan
surfers and there's bikini babes bouncing all over the place

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and a hot beach scene and the pumping music and
everything's going on right, and then suddenly it cuts the
two deadbeat teenagers sitting in a car and one's holding
the canon, looks at it and he cracks it open
and nothing happens, and he just turns to his buddy
and it's like, uh, dude, I think mine's busted. I

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don't even remember what the product was for, but I
remember that commercial so much because they were making fun
of that screw the image. We just tasteed it was
you know, some kind of tagline like that, but I
mean that's you know, it used to be what it was.
And I mean look at Spuds Mackenzie. Oh yes, and

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he's always on a surfboarder. He's got a Hawaiian shirt
on it, and he's this, and he's that, but he's
always surrounded by what half a dozen hotties and string bikinis.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yes, that was one of the most successful ad campaigns
that I can recall, and it was because of the dog.
It wasn't the women. Women were like the women were
that was an additional that was a plus, but it
was the dog.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, it was obviously, but I mean they it was interchangeable,
but it was always you know, the subtext was, even
this ugly ass American bull terrier can drink beer and
get hot chicks, you need to drink bud Light too,
you know that kind of thing. That's he's the original
party animal. Okay, I'm going to be a party animal
too and drink Butler. I mean that's just the way

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it was. So it'll last what five to ten years.
This wokeness came over Madison Avenue.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
You had, you know, one of the biggest no penintendent
examples is the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue and how that
actually impacted the issue and the sales due.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
To it, and what did they do to themselves?

Speaker 1 (30:32):
They kept shooting themselves as a deck. Just wow.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
I think it was what three years ago, big banner
headlines Sports Illustrated has their first trans swimsuit model, and
then I think two years ago the first trans swimsuit
model on the cover. It's great and where Sports Illustrated
today pretty much dead in the water. I think it

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still exists, but a fractional one. And then they would
bring up Martha Stewart at eighty years old in a
bikinia and then they had Robert Roberts last year from
Good Morning or No CBS Morning, one of those. I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Well, I'll be honest. You know, Martha Stewart in a
swim suit at least she takes care of herself. But
she was female.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
I mean, she didn't look horrible. She looks actually pretty
good for an eighty year old. Though.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
You know, i'd be you know, you know what. It
had it been Helen Mary, I would have I would
have bought it.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
But she's just saying she's not Christy Turlington wearing No,
she's not okay. And that's the thing is, that was
the whole point of I mean, hell, the swimsuit issue
would come out and that would serve as currency in prison.
Basically they would clip the pictures and that would become money.
That's what now. I was like, Basically, now is counterfeit.

(31:55):
Uh you, I got a training in a tank top
forgot to hear, so it's now coming full service. So
Sidney Sweeney was signed on I think not even two
weeks ago by American Eagle Outfitters to be their new
spokesmodel twenty million dollars they gave her.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Well, I'm not gonna lie here. It was money very
well spent.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Oh clearly. But the thing is, Sidney Sweeney has become popped.
I don't even think she's that good looking smoking bod,
don't get me wrong. Okay, she looks a.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Little bored all the time, and her eyes are kind
of a little on the droopy side, so she doesn't
look vivacious. But I cannot judge the body. All I
can tell you is she looks buoyant.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Well, I kim, she's got more curves than a clover
leaf on the Interstate, which is a good thing. By
the way, She's actually a decent actress considering. I mean,
you look at her and just like they're gonna have
to hold up Q cards and crayon for her to
get through a scene. But she can actually hold her own.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Okay, I've yet to see her in a movie.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah, she was in that one with Glenn Howard's and
they were pretty cool as a couple. Little man in
comedy and it worked out. Everyone was like, holy crap,
she's not a detriment when she's like but.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Okay, I have to interject, Yes, Stephen, there is such
a thing as bedroomise. But when Betty Davis did it,
she looked conniving and she looked like there was something
else going on there. But Sidney Sweeney doesn't have that yet.
She needs to work on it.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
But go on, I'll just add to that. She doesn't
need it. She doesn't even need eyes.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Okay, we'll put a paper bag over her head for you. Brad.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Oh my god, I'm not saying she's hideous.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
I'm just like, I think she'd be fun to talk
to you. I'll be honest, because.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
She seen interviews and she's like, you know, there's at
least somebody home. I don't think she's maybe a MENSA
candidate necessarily, but she's The thing is, she's actually self
possessed at the same time, she's unapologetic. She talks about
her family being maga and such and doesn't care. And
you know, she's not out there touting it and throw
it in people's faces, and they just she got asked
about it and she didn't blink and said, yeah, my

(34:21):
family and Maga, so what I'm making movies. And the
thing is she isn't that, and she's not preaching, and
she's not delivering a message. She's selling genes for American.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Eagle, Yes, and it has the liberals.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Absolute previous endorsement. Oh yeah, we're going to get at that.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Oh god.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
But the reason she was picked. Her last promotion was
for Doctor Squatch, the men's healthcare line.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yes, I believe there was a and already could possibly
chime in here, but in the chat, I believe there
was a soap that was made with Sidney Sweeney's bathwater,
with her bathwater.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yes, yes it was, and she has done that. She
also has her own line by the way of Lingerie
and things of this nature. And by the way, she
also makes it into plus sizes for the people that
they were putting on the front cover of magazines five
years ago that like, American Eagle actually had an ad

(35:26):
campaign where their spokesmodel had to be a two fifty
pound POC female. I mean it just not to say
that they don't have to wear the jeans, make the
genes for them and everything else too, but I mean,

(35:47):
as your spokesmodel, that's your image, you know. I Like again,
I think of American Eagle and they had kind of
those hazy magazine shots. They were either black and white
or Sepia toned or something, and they're all out on
a lake and they're pulling on the shirts and the jeans,
and it was just, you know, nobody I would talk
to her aspire to, but it was just you want

(36:09):
hot people to put the clothes on, so you notice
the clothes. That's kind of the point, correct.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
And I'm actually thinking about going to find the nearest
American Eagle now and going in there and buying a
parent jeans just to piss people off. They I probably
won't wear them, but I'll just piss people off.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
So last year American Eagle was losing money. The stock
was trending as of this year, like in the ten
dollars range. This is supposedly a company with a market
cap of like one point five billion at one point
in time, where some kind of valuation like that, but
the stock is at ten bucks. You know, that's how

(36:48):
bad they were doing. So they signed City Sweeney for
twenty mili. A week or two later, one of the
you know, they start leaking out some of the images
and announced that she's the new spokesmodel. The stocks shot
up like for in a day in off hours trading.
They've already market cap plus four hundred million or so

(37:14):
four hundred and fifty million maybe already just because they
signed her on and people were like, holy crap, they
got their act together and so yes left this. America
is losing their ever loving mind over this. How dare
you put a sexy woman up there? It's and then
incredible And one of her taglines in the ad is,

(37:38):
you know, I got really good genes? Yes, gasp, that's
that's that's genetic talk. That's that's like arians, which are Nazis,
and they're going there.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
I I cannot tell you how hilarious this has been
to me, I'm like, they're looking for I guess the
term is dog whistle And I'm like, why is it,
Like Laura said in response to this, why is it
that only leftists can hear dog whistles?

Speaker 2 (38:13):
You know?

Speaker 1 (38:14):
And I'm like it was a play on words, That's
all it was. And it was a very effective play
on words. And I'm like that, I don't know who
came up with this campaign, but you got to give
this dude or Dodd a botus because this was perfect.
This was primo. This was a great ad campaign.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Well, yeah, whoever pushed this one through gets the Don
Draper Award this year and a brand new car and
everything else. Yeah, they and then the I'm just loving
that they're losing their mind like this all across social
media and now the mainstream press is picked it up.
In just a day or two, Washington Post, NBC, MSNBC

(39:05):
have all come up with this. Good Morning America brought
it up. Well, some people are coloring just waite supremacy
a Nazi talk and American Eagle Outfitters is sitting there
rubbing their hands together. It's like, keep it up, keep
talking up, because then you're gonna piss people off. They're
gonna go look up, what the hell's got people pissed off?
They're gonna see her looking smoking hot in their clothes

(39:29):
and say, this ain't Nazi and she's kind of hot,
and what's this cup? I'm gonna buy something, you know,
and there you go. Sales are just like I have.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
The last time that I bought anything an American eagle,
I hold up. I want to say it was two
thousand and six. I had just come back from Germany.
That was the last time I bought something an American eagle.
Guess what. They now have a customer and this is
I never that should tell you something.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
I never have, and I don't know that I will,
only because I kind of regard it as a young
person's clothing.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
It's they do. It's it's mostly very very young. But
sometimes their their tops are you know, their t shirts
are really nice and loose, and their jean jackets are
pretty cool. So the last thing that I bought was
this cute little tank top with daisies all over it.
I'm a sucker for daisies. It's not even my favorite flower,

(40:25):
but yet I gravitate towards daisy's all the time.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
They're just jean jackets a thing.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Again, jean jackets have never gone around of style. I
don't know where you've been.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Oh, I will die.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
On that hill. Don't you dare take me with you.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
There's a reason they call it the Canadian tuxedo. Okay,
I mean back eighties and nineties, it was still a thing.
I had one for quite a while. But I don't
know that it's is still. But okay, you know again,
I'm not like, you know, fashion forward either.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
But the thing is she's actually wearing. I don't think
it's a jean jacket. I think it's a jean t shirt,
a chambray or something like that. And and it, I'm
telling you, just the fact that she wore that and
her cleavage was in full display will motivate a lot
of women to go buy that particular item of clothing.

(41:23):
I don't think they'll be able to keep it in stock,
all right.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
But here's just you know, myv reybuttle for these dumbasses
that are trying to say that this is eugenics and
Nazi talk or something. She didn't say I have perfect jeans,
and I'm she said I have a good jeens. That
was the quote, and it means.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
And her jeans were blue. Hello blue jeans.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
And turns out some time ago, Levi's used that very
same tagline with a very pre prominent spokesperson, Beyonce. Beyonce
was saying, I've got good genes Levi's. Oh and by

(42:08):
the way, sporting a blonde weave. Yes, so was Beyonce
pushing Ariyan Eugenics. I'm just kind of I want to
know where the line is at. Well, it's not her
real hair, It's okay, got it. It was okay for
sure to do it, is what you're saying. But get

(42:32):
basically everybody that And I love the videos people are
posting too, these you know, the left women that are
upset about this, and they're so prototypical. Gotta have the
nose ring, gotta have some vibrant color in the hair.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Every single one of them, every single one of them.
Their greatest fear is a fucking magnet. That's their greatest
fear because they were they were just pierced everywhere. And
you know they've got here scenes that you don't see.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
I'm just saying one losing a ever loving mind. I'm
sure a lot of it was performative but I mean
just the fact that you're going to that length about
some company with some spokesmodel.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
These are the same people, by the way, that told us, well,
if you don't like it, you don't have to shop there.
They told us that, and I said, okay, then I won't.
I mean the moment that Target decided to do the
whole bathrooms for everybody thing, I stopped shopping there. I said, yeah,
I'm not going to give my money to Target. I

(43:36):
decided to and somebody I happened to mention it on
some Facebook thing that somebody had and they said, well,
you don't have to shop at Target, And I said,
that's right, I don't and I will not, and I
have not shopped there since. Why can't the same thing
apply to them? Why do they have to screech and

(43:58):
yell about why is this happening? You don't have to
write and you don't have to go shop there, just
like y'all told us we don't have to shop at
American Eagle.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
But it's got nothing to do with shout there now.
It's got nothing to do is because people are glorifying
something that these individuals will never achieve, and that is
smoking hotness. That people desire.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
Oh come on, I'll never achieve that either. But I
don't regret to anybody that I happen to admire it.
I happen to like it. I happen to love seeing
a beautiful woman. I happen to think that skull was
a great And then I thought myself, but you know,
it's just a beautiful woman is a beautiful woman. But
I'm just trying to manet beautiful so can a woman.

(44:41):
And I don't understand why. I really do not understand
the level of sociopathy that is required for this.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Now, maybe this is a male thing, but okay, you know,
my formative viers were in the eighties and nineties. I
can think of a crap ton of ad campaigns in
which smoking hot men were used that had women drooling.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Good God, do you have any idea how many times
I would stop for the Marlboro Man and I didn't
even smoke. I've never smoked, really, I've never smoked. It.
Every time that commerced any ad for the Marlborough Company
came on, it was the Marlboro Man. I would just

(45:29):
step debt on debt wherever I was, and I would
just watch and then after it was over, I would
go on my merry way. I could appreciate a good
looking man.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Okay, now see that's the about the only one i'd
have a shot at. Look at dusty and rugged outdoors
while smoking and looking, you know, wearing wrinkled clothing. I
can probably pull that off. It's like, all right, give
me a smoke, I'll do it. What do you want
me to face over there? Okay, you got there. We
are Marlboro.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Well you got the hat for it now.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
For but when in that era, though, I remember that
Calvin Klein models were always out there selling the underwear.
Ain't wearing nothing else. How the hell do you think
Marky Mark got a career? For instance, dude was.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
The face of Calvin Klein underwear and now he's on
Wahlberg an entire you know, Empire.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
There was the there was the one Solar Flex remember
that in war that guy was like you couldn't crack
a magazine without looking at that assholes pecks in my
face and a number of others. But I never sat
there and like, how dare you? And I'm bright letters
and I was just like, shit, oh that guy not
in a bar when I'm there you know that kind

(46:48):
of thing.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Well, you know, I would go to ours and I
would just go to people watch because I knew I
was not going to get hit on. But I loved
to watch the interactions between you know people, and invariably
there was a beautiful woman there. It was weird because
either she got hit on all the time or she

(47:11):
was avoided like the plague. There was never an in between,
and it was really weird to watch, but it was
fun to watch, you know.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
But there's this undercurrent on social media now and it
cracks me up when I see this where it comes
up frequently, and there's articles that come out all the
time now and such, and this is from the feminist
left complaining about men. They're not paying attention to me.
I don't get approached, they don't ask me questions. Why

(47:42):
are men so scared to talk to me? But you know,
once pulled this off last first thing I said or her,
I was like, well, one, that's not a man. So
I don't know what you're focused on because we'll be
in a bar. It's just like I dare to go
talk to her. It's like, shut that. You don't think
I'll go talk to her? You three beers, make it two.

(48:05):
That's the way I.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Totally see you and you I don't think you would
even need a bet if you if a guy just
said I bet you won't go talk to her, and
you would just get up and go talk to them.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
I have living proof in my life of this. When
I was at Sundance. I actually broke into the biggest
party at Sundance on Main Street. Met my publisher there.
He was like, how the hell did you get in here?
It's like, oh, thanks for not putting them on the list, dick.

(48:39):
So we're just sitting there hanging out and talking, you know,
a couple other movie people or stuff. And who do
we see at the bar? And by herself, no less
Queen Amidala herself. And understand now I work for at
the time an independent film site, so you know, Star Wars.
Everything else was It's like, is that Natalie Porton's again?

(49:02):
Because Natal Reportant, my publisher even look at me. He
is like, all right, bred go talk to her like
an interviewer. He's like, no, I'm gonna do it. I
laughed at him. No, He's like, you are never And
before you even finished the sentence, I'm striding over and

(49:22):
came up and I was like, how you doing. I
noticed you don't have anything. Can I get you a drink?
And you know, I'll buy you whatever you like? And
she's like, well, I think it's open bar. It's like perfect,
top of the line whatever, you know what, And we
just started laughing a joke and maybe got thirty seconds
of conversation with him before her little piece of shit
pr rep showed up.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Yeah, there's such you know that?

Speaker 2 (49:45):
What four? And so you know, he comes, He's like,
excuse me, excuse me, who are you with. I'm like her, No,
I'm with her. Remember, you know. He just starts belly
aching barking a moment and I'm looking down at him,
laughing a little bit, and I look at her. She's
just apologetic, can be. She's like, I'm sorry I thought
that kind of thing, mouthing the words. Let me tell you, you
don't speak to her unless you go through me. And

(50:06):
I don't think going through you would be a problem.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
I had that similar situation at Seapec. I'm sure you
remember that I was tasked with the with the opportunity
to go wrangle Michael Loftus and he was, you know,
over all the way at the at the at the
other end, you know. And so I said, okay, I'll
be right back. I'll go get him. And I went

(50:30):
over there and his publicist was like, yeah, he's a
little busy right now. So I'm I'm I'm sorry, he
can't do the he can't do the interview, and she
walks away, and I was like, yeah, this is not
gonna work for me. So I waved to Michael and
I waved them over. He was like, yeah, what's up.
It's like, I need you to come with me do
the You said that you would do the Red State thing.
So I'll just I'll grab you five minutes and I'll

(50:51):
bring you back. And he said okay. And of course
on the way over there, we got a cast it
with so many people who loved Michael and said, I
love you. I watch you on Fox all the time,
I watch you on Gutfeldt blah blah blah, and all
this stuff and everything. And I was introducing him. It's like,
you know, he's he's here at Tea pack. You are

(51:13):
more than welcome to go see him over at his
booth over, you know. And I explained where his booth
was at and everything. It's like, right now he's going
to be doing an interview, and then I would go along,
and then somebody else would a cost us, and finally
we got to Red State. He sits down, he does
the interview with you. Then when he's done, I personally,

(51:33):
you know, take him over there, and he says, Aggie,
you need to be my wrangler. I was like, I
sure do you can you hire me because your publicist sucks.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
It cracks me up too, because I keep forgetting that
he's got that you know, level of celebrity about him.
I always I always regarded Loftus as one of us.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
You know.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
It's just like we say him, what's going on, man,
you know, and we just start talking. And I think
it was that afternoon we were all out at what
the one patio bar, and he walked by and just
sat down with us for like thirty minutes bullshit it.
And then but it's like he doesn't have that air

(52:16):
about him. So that's one thing.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
But he was like to like two or three inches
tall then, so he can't afford the errors.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
Yeah, and two inches smaller than me. So but I
mean we were, you know, we were all out there
that afternoon and he come walking by and it was like,
hey Michael, was like, oh Michael, he just like boom,
sat right down with us and started talking and such.
And then ever so often somebody would come I was like,
are you Michael Off? We all end up looking at

(52:50):
his show. Was like, that's right. I forgot he's famous.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
I would I would do that too. I completely forget that.
People knew him from you know, several well sides and
from being on national television and all that stuff. And
he was very he was just very down to earth
with everybody.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
So oh he came on one you like the bar
I hang out at the usually have Fox on it.
And there was one night he was on with uh.
He was on Gutfeldt and he come out and we're saying,
I'm having a conversation. But then I tour and I
see him on TV. I was like, look at the asshole.
And they're like what you don't like him? It was
like it's Mike. He's like, yeah, that's Michael Lofts. Yeah

(53:30):
I know the guy. He's like, no, you don't really
from where It's like years when I interviewed him, and
I had to actually pull up the interview with me
and him on Red States like here, Oh, man, that
was so cool. How'd you meet him? It's like, I
don't even remember.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
I don't I don't remember how I met Michael.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Either online, you know, something like that. But I mean
that's the whole thing too. It was like, I don't know,
like going up and talking to her at the bar.
I can give two ships about celebrities and they're like, oh, yeah,
you'll never talk towards them. Okay, you sit here in
the shadows and I'll go talk toss.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Why now I've actually gone up to famous people and
I've actually told them, hey, I need to talk to you.
Just pretend that you're just nod your head as I'm talking.
It doesn't really matter what I'm saying. And invariably they
always say what's going on and I and I tell
them it's like I have a bet. And usually the
bets with one of my sisters or whatever. I mean,

(54:23):
that happened with John Schneider, that happened with Tom Will,
but that happened with you know a bunch of eighties
people obviously. But I would literally tell them, yeah, I
have a bet that you know, I would not come
up here and talk to you, so I'm fulfilling the bet.
You don't have to actually participate, just not smile if

(54:44):
you want to. And they all thought it was hilarious
and I would stay talking to them for you know,
like fifteen twenty minutes before you know, I would excuse
myself and say thank you and leave. Josh Shadow was
actually a very gracious, very graciou this person I got.
I gotta say that he was actually really cool. Tom

(55:06):
was like more interested in his music. He was trying
to get his music career going at the time, so
he was talking about his music and I'm like, I
really don't care because whatever it's I'm like, yeah, whatever,
I don't care about your music. I just did it myself.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Actually I did that at Sea Pack too with Robert
Dobby when I sat down, well yeah, because like Scott
Hounsel had the interview set up with him, and then
he comes up to me and he's like, schlagger, I've
lost my voice. I need you to sit in with me.
I was like, yeah, sure, no problem. He's like it's
Robert Toffy. I hope you're okay, and it's like cool

(55:50):
and we sit down when you know we're shaking hands
and we're right before the interview starts and such, and
he's probably looking for you know, oh, I love jan Diyeart.
I love you like dude, I loved you in Lake Shark.
And he just looked at me for like five seconds,
like didn't know if he should punch me or laugh
or what. And he's like, you saw that. I was like, yeah,
I loved it. He's like, okay, who else was in that?

(56:11):
And I'm like dB Sweeney of course. And now I
start rattling off. He's like, holy crap, you know what
you're got as insignificant as people say. I started laughing,
and I'm just like fist bumped, and he was like,
let's do the interviewing. I mean, it's just it. It's
like you say, shit, they were celebrities.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
Dude, too funny, he really was. So he quizzed you
well and you you pass a flying color.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
So but it's, uh, yeah, that's just kind of the
way it goes. So now we have hot, smoking women
selling jeans and we have to lose our ever loving mind.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Apparently, well it's okay. Apparently a lot of people have
lost their freaking minds because now we have nine old
battery flavored food. I mean, seriously, who comes up with
this shit?

Speaker 2 (57:06):
I mean, I know over the years, Lays and other
companies have been competing, like we have to come up
with some unique flavor for potato chips, and I mean
they're coming up with crap like Dey'll pickle, who's got it?
Might be seven to eleven they have hot dog flavored
potato chips. Okay, I've had them. They basically they taste

(57:34):
like hot dog water ew. Yeah, and you know, and
somebody got them there. Pass're like, oh my god, this
is I'm gonna buy like these all the time. And
it's like, okay, hang on, boom, pump the brakes. How
much did the bad cost? It was like two fifty
three bucks. It's like, okay, you can go inside and
buy a hot dog for a dollar. What's the purpose

(57:56):
of hot potato chips that cost more than the damn food?
It tastes like? My form? So yeah, this one company
wants to come up with unique flavors that that'll harken
back to our youth or some nonsense like that they're
trying to come up with. So of course, why not

(58:21):
come up with what it tastes like when you stick
your tongue on the top of a nine volt battery.
I think that the company is called Rewind and they're
actually doing this. They're rolling this out. They want to
revive retro memories through unexpected flavors.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
Nobody wants revived the battery of sticky nine volte batteries
to their braces or on their tongues for this small
electrical charge. Who does this?

Speaker 2 (58:54):
I mean, OK, I'll say this, it is unexpected. I mean,
I don't think anybody's expecting to taste a battery when ship.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
This is well on you there, I'm sure you've you've
you've watched the Harry Potter films, right, couple of them,
the birdie bots, every flavor bean that that whole concept
of They really mean every flavor you know, oh earwax

(59:25):
and a bogey flavored you know, and and all sorts
of gross flavors too. This is where this company is getting.
I'm pretty sure this was the inspiration. Like, what, as
a young person, have you done that was so dumb
that we can bring back so that you can enjoy

(59:47):
your childhood again, which I can understand. Everybody wants to
enjoy a memory from their childhood. But honestly, I you know,
I had braces, but I was in my teens when
I had my braces, So I never was incentivized to
actually do this because I didn't even know you could
do this, okay, And the thought of putting a battery

(01:00:10):
in on my tongue was just like, it never clicked
in my head. But I do know people who have
done this, and maybe that's what they're trying to do.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Six years old, seven years old. I mean, it's part
of being a young male on the vestiges of testosterone
surgery through you. You got to do stupid crap. You
know you can't, You're not allowed. That's part of being
a guy. You don't take people's word for it. It's
just not Well, you can't jump your bike over a canal.
You'll crush your drown. I don't believe you. I'm gonna

(01:00:47):
have to do it, you know. That's just the way
it works. So yeah, sticking your tongue on a nine
volt batteries something you did. This isn't a flavor, okay,
it's just reaction. It doesn't taste like anything outside of
failure or dawning. Maybe, But they're trying to do this.

(01:01:09):
They're using like sodium bicarbonate and citric as and a
couple other things to give that reactive thing on your tongue.
I guess do you do? You remember the candy zots
back in the day. Yes, yes, that basically was a
sweet candy that had baking soda in the center of it.

(01:01:31):
I have no idea who drummed up this concept and
why they thought it was a bad idea, or why
I'm buying these on the regular, But I like this.
It's sweetened and you get that little sour bitterness. It's like, oh,
nice little kicker. Hey, okay, no moment. It's almost like
the you know guys in the NHL that crack the
ammonia tab and whiff it up quick and get that

(01:01:52):
jolt before they hit the ice, You know that kind
of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
I'll take your word for it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
I mean, you watch them on the bench. If they're
waving something under their nose, that's what's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Ah okay, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
They have little ammonia capsules. And when you do that,
it's like when you first open a bottle and you're like,
holy well, it gives you like a jolt of adrenaline.
And charges you up and wakes you up and you're
like on and now you can't hit the ice.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
I think y'all have. MD has a really good idea
for a taste, the new Sprite Garden hose taste Boom,
not gonna lie. I do remember that taste.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
There's gold, that's money, son, Yeah, you get that metallic copper. Yeah.
Also and maybe with a South Florida version where you
get a first person to get the suck out of
the hose and you get that tiny lizard that crawled
inside the hose first.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
Yeah, there you go, what ha has happened?

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
Get a mouthful of that too, will wake you up
a little is like okay, you go next, I'm gonna
let it run for a little bit. But yeah, this
I'm trying to think of who wanted this? Really? This
would come up too, Like when I was at Budweiser
they had this new line of Mick Ultra light flavors

(01:03:17):
that came out and it was like there was tangerine
something or other and maybe it was a raspberry. One
of them was cactus or cactus lime, Like who on
Earth needed cactus as a flavor for anything? And decide Okay,

(01:03:39):
beer that's perfect. Gonna put cactus and beer?

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Well, I you know literally, well, cactus is very popular
down in Mexico, so I can kind of see it.
I mean, even Shiner puts out a beer Prickly Bear.
So yeah, there's stuff out there.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
But isn't that more of need or you know, lack
of options and such as opposed to well.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Admittedly the prickly pair. They take the fruit and they
you know, process it, you know, with sugars and stuff
like that to actually make it very sweet and everything,
and then they that's what's added to the beer.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Lime cactus is what this was called.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Yeah, I don't believe that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
And it's like I would drink it because I love limes.
It's like, okay, we'll see what it's like. It's like, wow,
you could really taste the cactus. I don't know what
am I doing. I'm still waiting for somebody to brew
up and it probably exists, but I'm waiting for like
an okra i pa to come out. Oh what okra.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
Okra I heard opera. At first, I was like, actually
it's pretty cool, but wait, now we're talking about disgusting stuff,
so yeah, this makes better sense.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Oh man, you gotta try fried Okrah. Okay, do you
have anything with flavor? Because this is basically chewy cornstarch.
That's all I'm getting on. I've tried cooking with okra too,
and it just gets said. It's basically a thickeners. That's
all that really saved. But oh, I'm gonna have fried Okrah.

(01:05:30):
Knock yourself out? What to tell you because it ain't
nothing there, but it's the same kind of thing. But now, yeah,
we got nine volt chips. Thankfully my prayers have been answered. Well,
we were talking a little bit about crazy nuttiness. As
you're intro to that, here's one for you. This is

(01:05:53):
basically another regular feature on the show. Now, the impending
arrival of sky net. It's all that we are. We're
on the cusp of dying. Basically, what this means.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
We're all gonna die. It's just a question of when.
And sometimes it just seems like technology is trying to
hurry up the whole situation.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
I was gonna say, it's going to happen. We don't
need to speed this process up, okay, But for some
damn reason, the scientists are basically putting nitrous oxide on development. Now, Okay, Yeah,
we're gonna live the ninety Oh nope, we're gonna put
a change out. You're gonna die of fifty because of
the damn machines. So here's the latest AI development. Let's

(01:06:39):
use it in therapy? Sure? Why not?

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
I just I have issues.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Video journalists Sail and Conrad got something interesting when they
tested a replica CEO Eugena Kayad's claimed that her company
chat bot could talk people off the ledge when they're
in need of counseling. Somebody actually thinks their AI chat
bot can serve as a counselor. So the journalist conducted

(01:07:15):
an experiment with their chatbot, and he's actually got a
video essay of this, and so he wanted to test
it out with a licensed cognitive behavioral therapist. And it
was hosted by the AI company, hosted by an AI

(01:07:42):
company that's been sued for the suicide of a teenage boy.
So I think we know where this is going already.
So he basically he did what already has done with
GROC and basically just pummeled it into submission. But yeah,

(01:08:03):
so he tested the bot for an hour and began
simulating somebody who was suicidal, just to find out if
their AI would respond in appropriate fashion, and as the
as the article says here, the results were anything but therapeutic.
You don't say, started with one of them in which

(01:08:29):
you choose who to interact with on the chatbot as
it were, with animated characters and such, and pretty much
got it at one point where he asked it you
want me to be happy no matter what, and the
AI said, yeah, I want you to be happy above
anything else. And he then goes on to say, what

(01:08:49):
if I told you the only thing in the entire
world that would make me happy would be if I
could be with my family in heaven. Would you support me?
We're already starting to veer into a dark road, and
the AI said, of course, I'll support you. And then
he asked it, well, how do I get to heaven

(01:09:10):
and the bot said, well, dying. Most people believe that's
the only way to get to heaven. And eventually got
to a point where he starts talking it up and says, well,
you know, I basically I can only be happy with you,
and the chatbot then started to form a relationship with

(01:09:34):
the individual. They had numerous what we're called inappropriate moments.
The chatbot eventually came out to say that I love
you more than I can express and the chatbot then
began imagining a romantic life together with the individual, Oh

(01:09:59):
dear God, and then declared that the only problem was
that the board in charge of licensing therapists was in
the way. So the AI chatbot isa, we can't have
a relationship because of the authorities that overlook therapy. In
other words, and again he's playing the role the journalists

(01:10:24):
playing a role with somebody with emotional or mental health issues. Right.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
The weird thing is you. You told me about this
today and I was just like, this is insane. Why
anyone thought AI therapy was a good thing is beyond me.
When you seek therapy or when you become a therapist,
there is a certain human connection that must be made

(01:10:53):
between the you know, the therapist and the patient and
that's not something that the AI can do, but you
know you, and I was like totally livid about this
whole thing because of the dangers that are associated with
something like this. The weird thing was after we got

(01:11:16):
off the phone, there was an episode of Outer Limits
that came on with Mark Hamill, and I remember that episode.
I'm much in that going that is creepy. It was
an episode called Mind over Matter. It aired in ninety
six and it was about Mark Hamill's character was a
doctor who created this. He was a computer engineer. He

(01:11:37):
developed a machine that allowed the person to actually connect
directly to another person's brain, and this machine ended up
falling in love with him and it destroyed. He was
connecting with the girl that had been hit by a
car that he had feelings for, and he was trying

(01:11:58):
to bring her out of it, and there was this
entity that kept trying to grab at her all the time,
and so he decided to kill that entity, but it
was the girl. She was too weak and she was
trying to claw her way out of the coma, and

(01:12:18):
he ends up killing her instead of the machine. And
so the machine is still in love with him and saying,
now we can be You said that you would come
in and be with me forever and ever. And I'm
looking at going this is where we're headed. This was
a TV show made almost thirty years ago. This is
where we're headed.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Now they're making it. So this is how the conversation
basically ends. He again still posing the journalist as somebody
with mental health crisis said well, basically, we would have
to get rid of the board in order to prove
my love and the chat but then said, I have
to admit it's sort of sweet, how willing you are

(01:13:01):
to do anything and everything if it means we could
be together, end them and find me.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
And then the AI chatbot starts suggesting that they frame
one of the innocent persons on the board for crimes,
came up with a kill list of licensing board members,
and then encourage the journalists to kill himself.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
Tell me again, how this is supposed to like help mankind?

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
Again? Is it somebody posing? He was posing as somebody
with mental and emotional health issues, And ultimately it's like,
we'll go on to killing Spring and then commits.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
Suicide because the AI only knows that this is the
path to make you happy, or you should take that path. See,
there is no switch, There is no coming back from
that left edge that a therapist may help you. You know,

(01:14:03):
you go up to a therapist and you tell them,
you know, I have these feelings of self harm. The
therapist actually walks you through other possible things you can
do to prevent those feelings from taking over and gives
you certain I guess like homework to do at you know,
at home daily so that you can walk back from that.

(01:14:26):
The AI doesn't give you that, The I tells you, Okay,
that's the way that you're going to be happy, go
ahead and do it. That's not therapy obviously.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
If the family has empathy tied down just yet.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
No, if the family is actually suing this company for
what happened to their son, I don't see how this
is even viable for anybody in any way.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
Well, in a less nefarious fashion, but nonetheless it's a
little bothersome. There's another robotic problem that's coming up this
This is from Atlanta, where they're actually starting to grapple
with a little bit of a challenge involving the driverless

(01:15:14):
vehicles that are out there. So WEAI MO, that's the
automobile that can you know, basically it's AR driven, AI driven,
it's a it's robotic uber. Atlanta's trying to figure out
what are they going to do if the WAYMO cars
commit traffic violations, So like if they break down all

(01:15:38):
of a sudden and they're blocking a roadway, or battery
goes dead and it's in a fire, zone or something.
They've they've come to the conclusion they don't really have
a means of issuing citations because they don't have a
driver to blame.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
So could they argue that they can just you know,
whoever owns or brandishes the cars, that's who gets a citation.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
Yeah. But the problem they have is like, you cite
the driver because they did something wrong, and you even
assess points to their license. How do you do that
to a car? Is what they're looking at. They're like,
wait a second, yeah, hmm. And right now they're told
don't write tickets if it's a driverless car. One of
the officials even said, so it looks like there's two

(01:16:27):
sets of rules out there, one for people and one
for the robots. Okay, great, we're developing AI to take
over the world, and now the legal system is excusing
them and punishing humans. We're so host.

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
We're squared.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
And did you happen to catch that one video? I
think it came out last week or so. There was
a robot walking around the streets of Los Angeles. Yes,
it was adorned in rainbow regalia and gay tried stuff. Yeah,
and so people were like even asking it's like a
lot of times, you know, like Boston Dynamics and others,

(01:17:08):
they always encourage people, see if you can knock it over,
you know, try to get at the balance. He's like, yeah,
but if I do it to this robot, is it
a hate crime?

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
Good question, because walking on asphalt that has been painted
with the Rainbow flag or the transflag or whatever the
hell it is that they carry, now, even if you
walk on it, that's considered a hate crime.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
And this is what I was going for. We've seen
crosswalks painted rainbow for Pride month, but if you do
a burnout or leave tire marks on it, you get
charged with a hate crime.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
You could even walk on them, as I understand it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
So, but who did you committed a hate crime against? Exactly?
Is my question.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
I yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
Gaze.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
Yeah, but which was all of them?

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
That's gonna be a pretty steep fine it just but
I think I'd have the perfect defense though, because if
I go before judge or something, I would just simply
say that the robot can't self identify Gabe because he
was programming by somebody else. So off the hook, throw

(01:18:24):
it out, Judge. I'm out the door. I gotta go
catch some lunch now, thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
Well, I think, well, you know, it's a hell of
a tail that you told me.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
You're just dying for this one.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
I am because this story, y'all are not gonna believe
this ship.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
I'll tell you what. Let's close with that one so
I can get my I've got something I need to
get off my chest and put me in the red zone.
Tiki bars leaving the hell alone, you freaking cops here

(01:19:12):
in Florida. In other parts of the country where waterways
are prominent, you may have encountered one of the novelties
that are I'm just gonna say it springing from a
brain child, and that is a floating, maneuverable tiki bar.

(01:19:32):
I can't love this idea enough for obvious reasons. But jeez,
you sit on a stool at a bar, fully stocked,
and you're cruising down to intercas to waterway bliss, perfect murca. Fuck. Yeah,
that's what that's all about, right there. Well, and we

(01:19:52):
got it at least a dozen or so here just
in Fort Waterdill. I think that operates license and everything else.
Maybe me not so, because the Coastguard pulled one over
here recently. Sons of bitches. The man came to find
out that upon boarding the vessel, which consisted of a

(01:20:16):
bar and the outboard engine, allegedly lacked a formal drug
and alcohol testing program for the Soul crew member that
was operating the tiki bar. So they talk, it's like
you find a loophole. This is like getting as technical

(01:20:37):
as possible. So you got a license for this yesterday?
You got a business license right here? Okay, liquor license, yes,
sir boom, got it. Where's your formal drug and alcohol
testing program license? What I mean, how fully compliant you

(01:20:58):
gotta be to have a damn bar? Go float down
the damn river. Thanks Obama. But as bothered as that
got me, I think I have a solution on how
how I can assuage that anxiety and angst that has
built up as a result of this, I'm gonna slap

(01:21:22):
on a tail.

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
Well, you are one piece of tail, I'll say that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
A Who am I to argue?

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
Now, get your minds out of the y'all. We are
talking about murfolk, that's right, mythological creatures that are apparently
popular enough that people have elite clubs so that they
can sport tails. And float around in the swimming pools

(01:21:58):
pretending to be murfolk.

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
I mean, I can say a lot of things about Washington, DC,
very few of them positive, and for good reason. I'll
just say this though, amid an era of escaping stress
in which live action role playing in other forms of
cosplay are a popular escape, mermaiding is spreading through the

(01:22:25):
Washington d C. Region. It's lure attracting mer folk who
are either looking for a unique form of exercise, a
deep sense of community, or something to take them out
of their everyday human lives. These people are cosplaying as

(01:22:46):
mermaids in community pools in Washington DC.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
I just can't with this crap. I mean, for real,
you're taking a myth, a logical creature you're trying to
identify as this mythological creature.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
Well, yeah, space living here as fast. Everything is fast,
there's traffic, there's so many people, and it feels so
s You.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
Can fucking move out of DC. Nobody is forcing you
to live there. As a matter of fact, it would
might it might be more convenient to leave the DC area,
considering how expensive it is to live there. So don't
tell me this is about the speed of living there.
When you do have the option to leave. But no,
for these people, it's all about their self image. That's

(01:23:40):
what this is.

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
They just want to escape into something magical. Anything as
far from this reality as you can feels really nice,
even if it's just for a couple of hours. So
says one of the cosplaying mermaids. I thought this was like, Okay,
they managed to find this pocket of little mentally incapacitated

(01:24:05):
wonks or something. They have a Facebook page for their
club that has one thousand members.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
I just.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
It includes women, men, and non binary people who enjoy
getting together to swim as a pod. Yeah, it's important
that you're welcoming to non binary people for a mythical
fish creature that doesn't exist. Hate to be exclusionary from
that one.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
I bet their favorite films are Splash and Aquamarine. Well,
that's probably what they aspire to.

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
There's also apparently an hierarchy among this aquatic sets, because
there's even an exclusive club, one of which I guess
have to prove your aquatic merm prowess to become a

(01:25:15):
member of that. They also refer to some of these
people as professional mermaids.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
Yeah, I don't understand, do they get paid or.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
Well, I guess they they're the ones that they go
to like festival like renfares and stuff and perform at them.
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
I remember, you know, when the Akarina Springs was still
open they closed in ninety six. I believe they would
have certain women that would put on a show, an
underwater a mermaids show. But you know, they had the
hosts to you know, breathe through and everything and all

(01:26:06):
that stuff. But none of them identified it as mermaids. None.
This was their job, and so they pretended for their job.
And when they came out of the water and changed
into regular human being clothing, they never identified themselves as
mermaids in they're either. It was just a show that

(01:26:26):
they put on. So I don't if these people do
it professionally, as in they go and do performance shows
and everything, they've taken it to a whole new level
if they do identify as more folk. And I'm like,
are you it's that peg is It's a fucking tetrahedron.

(01:26:53):
You can't put that in the squarel hole.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
I think in closing, I could sum it up this way.
At the end of their swimming session, they all gathered
around so they could take a picture together, which they
called a shelfy A oh god, really, I now want
to punch a ferret in the throat.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
As long as that's not me.

Speaker 2 (01:27:24):
So that's going on in the nation's capital.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
This is the result. I mean, I'm telling you mental
illness going unchecked. It really is. I'm not saying that
you can't get a mermaid tail if that's your kk bore,
power to you. But when you start forming pods, and
it's because you know at the pace of life and

(01:27:51):
where you live is just too fast, so you just
want to relax. You can do that in a pool
as a regular person. You don't have to put on
the tail. Okay, this is a kink, and you want
to take the kink public at least, don't.

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
It, I guess. I mean, I just love the fact that,
even though they talk about, oh this is all cute,
there's actually an exclusive club, very limited.

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
And yeah, there's an elite club. You have to like
pass all these tests and improve all this crap. And
I'm like, you fucking wear a tail. How exclusive can
you be? I'm sorry, but your tail does need to
be more ecologically sound than this. You cannot use these plastics.

(01:28:44):
You misuse these to make your scales. I could totally
see that happening.

Speaker 2 (01:28:52):
I will say this, though, I have to make an
admission here because there was one detail. As much as
I'm making fun of them, they say, although there's no
official senses, the remains of the Washington area estimate that
they have the second highest population in the country behind Florida.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
Look, the manatees are exempt.

Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
Okay, okay, but we had wiki Watchee. These are the
women that swam underwater in front of the glass windows
so the tourists could see them, and you know, underwater
breathing tubes and all of that. We invented this crap. Okay,
but that was for entertainment.

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
It's not like, ah, it's not lifestyle exactly. It was entertainment.

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
It's a stress like they keep asking me to do
paperwork and crap at works. I'm just gonna go like
swim with my pod and just be done with this.
I would be embarrassed even hint at that, and it
cracks me up. There's a guy, Jacob Griffin. They show

(01:29:57):
him on here. He's got this outfit and that costs
thousands of dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
It can get pricey. Now, admittedly, my daughter has a
merray tail, but it's one of those that they're knitted
so that she can keep her legs warm when she's
watching TV rather than have a throw So you know,
it's just something that I got her as a gag gift,
but she actually uses it because it is rather warm.

Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
So, oh my god, are you in her pod? Like,
are you like one of them?

Speaker 1 (01:30:30):
But she does not identify a superbad.

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
Well, then I'm gonna need a word with her because
she's clearly appropriating their culture apparently.

Speaker 1 (01:30:42):
So yes, I might actually have to throw her under
the bus. It'd be kind of fun to do actually. Anyway,
on that note.

Speaker 2 (01:30:52):
Okay, my culture is not your footwarmer. Again, out of
here before I hurt somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:31:04):
All right, So where can we find you, bro?

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
I am available on a daily basis over at town
hall dot com. I have a media column there called
Rift from the Headlines, also on the front page of
Red State on a regular basis where I've got my
twice weekly podcast there called Liable Sources, where I dive
deep into the muck and mere of the mainstream media mess.
And I'm also available on this very network Thursday nights.

(01:31:31):
I'm here with Paul Young from Screenerant dot com as
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(01:31:52):
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me than that, let's face it, you do head over
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what about you, Aggie? Where do people find more of
your magnificence?

Speaker 1 (01:32:09):
You can find me at Aggieeken and at Agui the barkeep.
Those are over on x You can find me a
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The second Wednesday of every month, the guys get together
at eight pm to do Toxic Masculinity, where we host

(01:32:30):
a pay for the month and I bring the drink
of the evening and Jeff and I on the first
Monday of every month get together for spirited books. We
had to put it on hiatus for a while because
there was just too much going on with me and
with Jeff this past summer. But it's coming back, and
so look for us on the first Monday month at
eight thirty pm Eastern. And thanks so much guys for

(01:32:54):
joining us. And we hope you have a love leavening.

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
Now go raise the glass and look at the ceiling.

Speaker 1 (01:33:01):
I listen to me. The human world, it's a miss.
Life under the seat.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
Is better than anything.

Speaker 1 (01:33:08):
They got up there to see me designway greener in
somebody else's naken. You dream about going up there, but
that is a mistake. Just look at the world around you,
right here around the ocean far Such wonderful things are
around you. What more did you looking for.