The Cocktail Lounge: Waffles, Tigers, and Snowy Stumbles. Oh My!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:31):
The following program contains course language and adult themes. Listener
discretion is advised and welcome everyone to another episode of

(01:09):
The Cocktail Lounge. I am your hostess with the Mostess, Aggie,
and unfortunately we have a change of schedule tonight. Our
beloved co host brand Slager is out for the week.
I believe he is traveling on my side of the world.
But is he stopping by? No, he's not. Has he
been yelled at? Yes he has, So He's on vacation

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for this week. So I will be having a co
host for the evening and it should be a lot
of fun. Brad has asked me to convey his sadness
at not being here. Actually he did try. We tried

(01:54):
to actually record the podcast, but he just he's under
such a time crunch that he really cannot even you know,
he can't even manage to record his own podcast, much
less hours. So, without further ado, I do want to
introduce our awesome guest host for the evening's none other

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that our own producer, Jeff. How are you doing this evening?

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Jeff? Am? I like the tu Brad.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
No, okay, you're not the Brad as long.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
As I'm not the t Brad. I'm okay, I'm glad
I could help fill in the whatever Brad is off
doing thing.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
So well, it's it's it's his wife's spring break, so
they travel to visit family in the DFF area, and
so he's been having a lot of fun. He had
never been to the fort Worth side, and he actually
went traps through the fort Work Stockyards, which I always

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recommend people go there because it's a lot of fun.
You know, there's Billy Bob's, there's a lot of new
breweries there. There's a lot of pubs and stuff like
that that have been bright new. I mean when I
went was ninety two, so it has been it's been
a long too since that went. But it was still
a lot of fun and I always recommend people go there.

(03:25):
And he had a lot of fun. So he just
doesn't have any time to do any podcast, so he's
he's like chopping at the bit.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
I bet I guess that means when he comes back,
we better leave an extra hour after the show.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yes, it'll be interesting.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
You'll have all that vent up podcast needing to come out.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah, he's he's having a lot of fun, and it
has been it has been a really cool visit for
him and he they worked going to plan and stop by,
but unfortunately they're running out of time so they really
can't stop by, which is sad. I also told him,
you realize I'm going to have to, you know, toss

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out all this beer, and he kind of screamed, no kidding.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Threatened the man. Oh yeah, I wish I was there
and not here.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
I know, hasn't How has the weather warmed up at all?

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Or Yeah? Two and a half inches of snow yesterday?

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Oh myke, No, you're kidding, No, no, wonder we're getting
another two to three on Saturday. It's it's it's it's
almost April. What what? No, that's insane.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yes, yes, I'm we did have like two days last
week in the sixty sixty five actually legit melted all
of our snow sixty you know, all Like our neighbor
is a maple farmer, so he's had his machine running
twenty four to seven, you know, helping pull the sap

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out of the trees and run it down to the
storage tanks so they can get it to go boil.
So that's been nice hearing that. That means spring is
kind of kind of almost like here, so it's like
and then it's snooze you and you just want want
to hurt everyone.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
I I do feel bad. I do feel bad. I
mean I know that that up the Northeast area, it
does get snowed pretty late early in the spring, late
in the winter's early spring there you're still getting snow
and everything. But yeah, no, I don't know, uh huh, yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
I think. I don't know. If I've seen a June snowfall,
I have seen May snowfalls.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
I when I was to tell you how much I
dislike snow, when we were living in Germany, I came
home from I walked up to the you know, the
supermarket down the street, which was which is called Lethal,

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and I take my little basket. I buy my stuff,
you know, and everything. And I'm walking back and you know,
and it's snowing. I have my jacket on everything. I
just I walk up the hill. I go inside the
house and I slam the door shut. I says, I
just cannot wait for spring to get here. And I
look at the calendar. I said June second, So yeah,

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I got a happy camper. And I was like, we
literally had no spring that year, and our summer last
and maybe maybe a month before fall weather got involved
and I was like, I never even got my summer
close out. I just it was, it was pointless.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
It's it's one of the joys living in southern Canada,
I mean Vermont. You know, you have to plan certain
things like now there is some advantage like when it
snows on Easter, you don't have to color the eggs.
You just throw them out in the snow. Can really

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mess up with the kids. That's fine, so you know,
you get some some funness to it. But you know,
and on the opposite end, you know, when Halloween rolls around,
you have to plan on two Halloween Halloween outfits for
your kids because you get decent weather and then you
have snow weather costumes. So it's just you get used

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to it after a while. But after eighteen years, I'm done.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, I totally. There's a reason why we get you know,
the snowbird's coming down for winter and then sometimes start
scoping out, like buying lands so that when they retire completely,
they they just moved down here.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
And you know, one of my parents neighbors, they were
they were snowbirds for the first five years of their retirement,
and then they decided, why don't we just move? This
is ridiculous. So they bought a house two doors down
from my parents, and and it's and it's funny because
they kept their their their RV, you know, so that

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they can go up there during the summers to visit
family and so, but most of the year they they're
living down in South Texas and they they're like, yeah,
it's so much better now.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, Oh yeah, I can't wait. I don't know. I
don't know what our plans are once EP graduates high
school next year. Oh my god, I just said that
out loud. So I don't know what our plans are,
what his plans are. I know, unfortunately or fortunately for him,
he might be going to a decent college around here

(09:05):
that I may or may not be able to afford
if I sell every organ in my body four times.
So it'll be interesting to see what happens. But yeah, knowing,
knowing that I'll finally be able to go back where
it's form be kind of nice.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
They would be nice, wouldn't it. Then you would be
moving just further down the East coast.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
At this point, I would be open to just about anywhere.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Do not blame you.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah, yeah, I'm just yeah, yeah, we'll see. I'm just
I'm just waiting for spring because you know what spring is.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Right, Oh yeah, oh yeah, the greatest.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Sporting time of the year.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
It's dn.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
We got the hockey playoffs getting ready to start. Yeah,
we have March Madness and baseball. I can I can
deloreate the chalk line down the first base.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
I can honestly say I I am done with March Madness.
I'm just like I never got into the college football.
I got into the NBA, but not college. I got
to CBA, I got European that was finet. The professional
was fine. It's just college got on my nerves. I
don't know why. It's the same sport.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, but no, before I go any further, just to prove,
just to prove to people that I'm not a sycophant
sports fan for teams like I have my favorite teams,
but when something when a team cheats or something goes
in their favor, it shouldn't have I'm freely willing to

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admit it. I don't know how many people know I
am a Maryland Terrapin through and through, and they should
not be in the sweet sixteen because that dude took
at least three and a half steps before he had
the game winning shot.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
You know, I saw that. I saw clips of that,
and I'm like, well, here's the thing. It has been
the last time that I saw traveling being called.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yes, I had just gotten out of college and I
graduated in eighty nine. Okay, so it's like it's almost
like traveling unless you're like travel half the court, they
won't call it.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
No, And I tried to I looked at it. I
tried to be reasonable because in college, if the guy,
if your defender hits the ball and you lose control
at least with one hand, they will not count that
as you know, as an extra step. So I tried
to look to see if you know, maybe the defender
knocked the ball a little bit out of his hand
or juggled a little bit, then it wouldn't have been walking.

(12:01):
But no, no, Maryland did not deserve to win. And
I hate that because this is the first good Maryland
team in the years. But yeah, they they didn't deserve
to go to the sweet sixteen on that shot.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
That was that was if the referees didn't see.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
It, I know I know the hockey. The hockey guy
in me says, if they don't see the elbow in
the corner, it's not an elbow, is it.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Nope. So if the that's that's the standard rule, and
we live with it in every sport. If the referee
doesn't see it, it didn't happen, right, So you can
bring it to their attention so that they're cognizant of
it and they go to look to see if it
gets repeated. But that's all you can do.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah. Absolutely, But for any any fans of I don't
even know what little college they were playing, so any
fans out there, look, there's at least one Maryland fan
that gets it. I know. I understand, You're right.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
I have. I have no idea how A and M
basketball is doing. Like I said, I just I gave up.
I was like, I just cannot get into it. And
then there was there was some kerfuffle with NC Double
A and March madness, and I was just like, yeah,
I'm done with you too. So I just I haven't

(13:13):
been following it. I have been trying to follow, you know,
the the rest of the NC Double A stuff. But I.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, oh fun, that was Yeah, and that wrestling match
with the the was Air Force.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Yes, yes, second lieutenant in the Air Force.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
What I think now rightfully, So we're celebrating all the
right things about that, but what is really amazing about
that is who he beat. He beat like a guy
who hadn't lost in like seventy six matches. The Air
Force guy was an absolute underdog who should have had

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no chance winning, and we're kind of ignoring that aspect
of it. So like when people go, well, why did
he get up all proud and salut, dude, just beat
the guy, the guy, the guy. The last three years
he's been the guy, you know. So yeah, I love

(14:20):
that moment though.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
It was a great moment. I thought that it was.
You know, I had a lot of people saying that
the president was just you know, showing off going through
and I'm like, no, he actually does enjoy wrestling. He
he doesn't just do the you know, WWE stuff. You know,
before he even became he started thinking about becoming president,
he would go all the time and he was featured prominently.

(14:45):
But not only that this I think it was twenty
twenty three, he went to the championship game as well.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yes, and.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
You know, and people may mention it and made the
news and every because he was there, he really enjoyed wrestling.
I'm just like, this is not a political thing. He
just wanted to go see it.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yeah, and real I'm sorry for any w w E
or WWF or whatever they are called. I apologize to
anything of that.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
But it's WWE because there was a there was a litigation.
World Wildlife Fund actually sued because the World Wrestling Federation
using the same letters and it created confusion, and so
in a settlement, the WWF the wrestling one decided to

(15:37):
put E instead of that.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Okay, this is not a slam on on that wrestling,
but this level of wrestling is so fascinating to watch,
especially at the bigger sizes. It's just like, oh my god,
this is oh, this is awesome. And like I said,
this is not a discredit to anyone in the WWE.
The athletics there is off the charts, but just that yeah,

(16:03):
just that, that style, you know, the Greco Roman wrestling
and all that just absolutely amazing to watch.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
It was, you know, gosh. Back in the eighties, it
was a movie called Vision Quest that was about a
young man who was a Greco Roman wrestler in college
and everything, and had Linda Fiorantino in it, Matthew Modine.
All the girls went to watch it because of Matthew,

(16:35):
and all the guys went to watch it because of lindath.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
I detect no lies, no.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Lives detected, whatsoever. But you know, and and it was.
It did really well at the box office. It was
a very popular movie. And it actually, in my corner
of the world, we didn't even know that was an
actual sport, okay, so it was really interesting when that

(17:06):
movie came out. We were like, that's actually kind of cool.
That's a different you know, it kind of blew our minds,
you know, how it was so technical and so quick
and everything. And so our our school actually got together
with several other schools and they started an intramural wrestling

(17:29):
you know teams they you know, to see if any
guys were interested. And yeah, there was a there was
a lot of interest, and we had it for quite
a while. I want to say it was almost twenty
years before they actually said, well, this is this is
this is dangerous for kids, so we can't have it anymore.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
You know.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Three guesses as to who put that up. But anyway,
because it wasn't being controlled by the UIL. It was
it was after school, so though the school board stepped
in and that was controlled by a different party. Let's
just say so anyway.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Right, No, So yeah, base baseball is almost here Thursday night.
I know, I know, I know the Dodgers and some
other team already played two games in Japan, and I
know it counts in the standings. But the real season
starts Thursday, and I'm so excited. I got I got
my special beer picked out, I got my my nacho
dogs ready to go.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
It must be nice to eat that stuff.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Oh I'm gonna be I'm gonna be feeling it. I'm
gonna be hurting. I'll absolutely be hurting. And I think
the game is, oh, what is it? Four to ten
my time, so I don't even know if I'll be
home to watch the first pitch for my team. So
it's gonna suck hard. But as soon as I get home,

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the hot dogs will be cool to nachos will be topped,
and the beer will be served, and I'll be sitting
in front of the TV for about least two hours
watching my team lose, because that's what my team is
good at. But I at least do it with a
beer and a hot dog, so I'll be happy.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
I kid do not. I remember that there was going
to be boxing. I'm going to say it was an exhibition.
It was not for a title, and it wasn't a
big thing, but it was an exhibition. My dad really
wanted to watch it. I think I was like fourteen,
and he calls my mom from work because it was

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going to start at five o'clock in the afternoon, and
he didn't leave work until five and he worked about
twenty miles away and he had to cross through another
town and so he wasn't going to get home till
about five thirty or so. And this was well before
there were VCRs. Okay, we didn't have a VCR or

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anything like that. And Mom said, well, I'll have everything ready.
You know, all you have to do is sit in
front of the TV. I'll have it playing. He goes
to his boss and he, you know, he calls up
his boss because technically he's the boss of the place,
but he calls his boss in New Jersey, tells him

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the situation, and his boss says, oh, dude, just go home,
just go because the boss was going to watch it too. Okay,
So it was, and it was at six o'clock Eastern time.
So so Dad got you know, got in the car
and and and he sounded the He let everybody you

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know who was interested in going home early go home early.
You know, he just sounded the whistle and everybody left.
I think it was like a tent to four. And
so he got in his car, you know, left, came home.
My mom had the TV tray, she had his food
all up, okay, and I had his rum and coke waiting.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Nice. Nice.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Now, my dad trained us really young. I mean, we
knew when Dad was coming home, one of us would
get up and have the rum and coke ready, so
that when he walked through the door, he just put
his briefcase down and grabbed that and went to the recliner.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
You know, I'm this may be the first time I've
ever felt like I s failed as a father. I
need to go train EP a little more.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
I was well trained. My dad had me very well trained.
And it is It is so funny because to this
day my dad brings that up. It's one of his
favorite memories that all all of us, and it wasn't
just me. I just happened to be the oldest one,
and I did it for the longest period of time.
But we were all trained, and so when I was

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going to college, the girls were like, well, who's gon
to do it now? And and of course, you know,
I looked at it was like, well, obviously this is
the second one, you know, and she's like, I'm not
gonna be here. I have stuff to do after school,
and I'm like, not anymore.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Not anymore. Yeah, hold on, let me get a pencil
so I can make some notes here.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, I was, you know, we all we all still
laugh about that. But yeah, Dad, Dad had us train.
There was none of you know, none of this child abuse.
This is not child abuse. This is you're you're actually
training them for a future hobby slash possible you know,
you know, livelihood. So I came by it honestly.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yeah. Yeah, I really need to step up my team.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, you need to. You need to, you need to
get into yeah talking to I.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Got about a year and three weeks to get this
taken care of. But oh yeah, I'm I'm looking forward
to all of that there. You know, it'll be interesting
to see see how everything goes, you know, because I'm
sure baseball season will be a hit, unlike something else

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we're going to talk about. Just because just because bread
isn't here doesn't mean the segways end.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
The segways do never, never end, not not at the copailround. Yeah,
there has been a disturbance in the Disney force.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
This This following segment Pretending is brought to you by
Rodo Ruter.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah, man, I'm telling you, this is the biggest pile
I've seen since Jurassic Park. It's bad. I you know,
a lot of people were scratch that. From the beginning.
Disney has gotten into the habit of making live action
films of their most admired, most favorite, most revered animation films.

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And you know, they did really well with their version
of Getting in the Beast. Little Mermaid did fairly well
as well, even though you know they were like, why
does she look the way them whatever. Lion King not
only did it do well, even though it was well

(24:37):
obviously cgi lionston talk, but also the translation of Lion
King into a Broadway musical was fantastic. So they've had
that height for a very very long time. And things
started kind of slipping with Mulan because in order to

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actually film Mulan in an authentic Chinese area, they actually
had to couch out to the Chinese government, So there
was a lot of stuff that went kind of sideways
with Mulan. People still liked Mulan, people still went to
see Mulan. It wasn't a failure at all. Now comes

(25:24):
snow White, and I have no idea why they always
insist on making the freaking queen hotter than snow White.
But they've gotten into that damn habit and it just
pisses me off no end. The queen is pretty. I'm
not gonna say she's not. Obviously, when you see the
nineteen thirty seven animated film, the queen is still pretty

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pretty good looking, that's right, I get it. And there
have been some takes on the snow White that have
not had such a pretty queen. I think one of
my favorite takes on snow White a snow White a
Tale of Terror with Sigourney Weaver, who's a pretty woman,
but obviously she is not prettier than the daughter of

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the guy, right, I mean the girl that plays a
snow White character. Yeah, But for some reason, they wanted
gal Gado to be the queen and I'm like, yeah,
let's take the supermodel and make her the queen who
is afraid of somebody being more beautiful than she is.
I just no, I don't see it, but whatever, we

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can suspend this belief.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
I mean, it is more believable to have an Asian
dude in the NBA than it is for someone to
be prettier than gal Gado. And yes, I know Jeremy
Lynn is technically half Asian.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
But well the NBA.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Yeah, well yeah, but the thing is, you know, you're like,
at least make make her look like she's aging or something,
which is something that they did with you know, snow
Whine and The Huntsman, where they had the girl with no.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Absolutely no emotional features Christian Steory and Charlie's thereon. You
could see Charlie's was aging because she could not keep
up that beauty. She couldn't keep killing all the women
to get their beauty. So I get that aspect. I
get that, but this I don't get. I'm like, nobody's

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gonna believe this anyway.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
I'm gonna try to stay PG as much as I can.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Why I fling that f Ford around here like it's
dirty laundry.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Okay, I would not touch Rachel Zegler with Wordy's dick.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Okay, that's PRETD thirteen. But it I'm not saying she's
I'm not saying she's ugly. She's not. Obviously, Rachel Zegler
is has really pretty facial features, at least to me.
They just they for some reason. I don't understand why they.

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I don't know what happened, but it wasn't a very
flattering way of doing her makeup and doing the hair,
even though that the hair is kind of like what's
in Snow White. But it didn't have to They didn't
have to do that, but they did. So whatever. But no,

(28:37):
I'm no, I don't care what timeline you're in. Zegler
is not prettier than adult She's not.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
No no Eve. Even even jew haters are going, yeah,
I'd probably rather Gal.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
But the thing with the movie is not necessarily the
fact that that casting took place. It's the nature of
the people who were cast that were the problem with
the movie. First, they wanted to make the dwarves not dwarves.

(29:14):
Now that and that aspect actually worked in other interpretations
of Snow White, like the one I brought up They
were not dwarves in this one. They were all people
of different ethnic backgrounds. You know, I don't know they

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were just but they were not. So I don't know
when they were calling it so when and seven dwarves
but they weren't. And then people saw the stills. People
saw that and they said, this is not the Disney interpretation.
Why are you doing this? You know? They so, and
I had to.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
That's missed a lot of it. If someone other than
Disney would have done this film, there wouldn't be the
back lag. I mean, yeah, her comments in her in
her stupidity, yes, that.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Was that was the bigger part. Yeah, but you're right.
Had anybody else done this with people that were regular
size or whatever, with the cast that was originally slated
to be in the film, they would have gone away
with it would have been it would have been okay.
But the fact that this was Disney that was bringing
one of their animated films to live action, that's where

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the people were like, yeah, this is a disconnect that
we can't reconcile this. They just couldn't.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
So, And I know Calvin is is not in Chad,
but he's he's hopefully still listening I have a challenge
for him. I will pay for his ticket to go
see this movie and compare it to the Russian Lord
of the Rings.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
I've seen a few clips to the Russian Lorial Rings.
It's been pretty funny anyway. But you know, I think
the one thing that actually started to sink this was
Rachel Zegler herself. Yes, she came out. You know. One
of the first things that she said was, this is

(31:20):
going to be a more contemporary take. You know, the
guy doesn't save the girl, blah blah blah, And I'm going, well,
there goes the entire story. Family. I'm like, okay, she
did not get consent to get kissed. And you know,
a girl can save herself. And I'm like, well, not
if she's in a dead sleep, she can't save herself.

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But okay, all right, I'm still willing to suspend this
belief here. But she kept going, even when Disney told
her to shut up. She kept going. The day after
the election, she actually posted something on Instagram that was vile, yes,
saying that she hoped those who voted for Trump got
what they deserved and she wanted them to feel pain.

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And I was like, girl, do you want your career
or do you want to just set everything on fire
because so far you're dousing yourself in gasoline. And it
just it just kept it just kept going worse and
worse and worse. Finally, the you know, people were testing

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some of the some of the screen tests that were
going on. They were very negative on the on the
the seven guys, and so they had to go back
and do CGI work, and the dwarves are all now CGI,
you know, and and it just it doesn't look right.
It just it looks awful.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
And well, I think Zegler is eighty five percent responsible
for all of this. I want to give the remaining
fifteen to that little effort. Peter Dnkleich, Oh.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yeah, he definitely has responsibility in this case.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
It's it's absolutely as And I'm you know, it was
funny because was it was it yesterday? I don't know
if it was. I don't I think it was yesterday.
I'm watching Glenn Beck and who comes on for a
segment other than nerd Rotics talking about snow white, and

(33:29):
I'm like, wait a minute, Gary is on Glenn Beck,
What the hell is this? And they're talking about it,
and it's just I know, Gary was biting his tongue
because he was on the back show, but just hearing
him and hearing some of the stuff because I'm guessing
he had he went and saw it was absolutely incredible
to hear. I can't know.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
That's just I mean, it has you know, it's just
it's a mess. The projections were for the weekend one
hundred million domestic, and then they revised it down to
eighty and as the date came closer and closer, the
revisions kept going lower and lower and lower. They finally

(34:15):
revised it to fifty million. They felt they're not going
to so they revised it down to forty five, like
the Baybe four opening, and they didn't even make forty
It made forty three million. Now what's interesting is that
normally a film doesn't do well here, but if it's
something that's Disney or whatever overseas the global market that will.

(34:38):
You know, it's usually like two hundred million. No, it
barely made one hundred million, and so that is a
big signal. That is a that's a big, big ass
reread flag because they really expected about between two and
two hundred and fifty million global in national, So for

(35:02):
them to go up to one hundred. I mean, this
movie has to make somewhere in there to break even
about six hundred million dollars. It is not going to
come close to that.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
No, I don't know. God no, no, I'm not even
sure it'll come to half of that.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
I know.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Valiant Renegade posted something today like there was like a
ninety percent drop off for Monday viewing. I might be
misremembering the percentage. It might be seventy five, but it's
like seventy five to ninety percent drop off for Monday viewing,
which is not good because those people that don't want
to go on the weekends will pick a Monday to

(35:39):
go see it. And if it dropped off that much,
that is, oh we are looking at Yeah, we're looking
at some really awesome low numbers.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
That is I feel. I feel the one person I
feel the worst for is Galgado. Oh yeah, and even
though you know, when it comes to politics and every
I know she's not on the same page as I am.
But she was very excited about doing something that made
her look like a villain, and unfortunately that didn't happen.
She's not the villain in this, So why this is

(36:13):
the fucking villain.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
So I'm waiting for the I'm waiting for the mere
to go. No, Nope, you're still it. Sorry, end of
the movie. You're the fairest Goodbye.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
I mean, yeah, girl, you take the bite of the
apple please, because that's the only way to save you
right now.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
And it's weird because you know that the past few
films that Disney has been putting on has been sequels
and stuff like that. They've done really well too, so
it's not like they didn't have the opportunity to actually
elevate this film. This was the first full length animated
feature film that Disney ever produced and put out, and

(36:58):
it was an amazing feat. And I don't know if
anybody has ever been uh to see the camera and
the rigging that was in order to do this. That
thing is huge, and I mean I remember seeing it.
I had a friend that worked in imagineering and we
took a tour and this is why it was. It

(37:20):
was still at the studios and everything, and I'm looking
at this thing and my first thought was you could
launch a rocket from this thing because it was massive
and no description comes close. You actually have to be
there to see this thing. But for Disney to actually
come up with that concept and and and and do

(37:43):
that and and it was just it was amazing. And
now you you've basically just shoved that poison Apple into
Disney's entire legacy because it's you killed that and I'm
and and you know, and this was not the movie

(38:04):
that started it. I think that they've been moving in
that direction, uh for a while. But it's just this
one is the entire culbination of everything Disney himself wanted
to avoid. He had always expressed, you don't make an
animated film for adults. You don't make it as a

(38:30):
political statement that's separate. You make it children. Yeah, you
make it for children. Now some people will say, oh,
Disney used to do political cartoons and political movies and
all stuff. Yes, for the war effort. There was a
war going on. Okay, this wasn't you know, this was
this was a big thing. And and and you know,

(38:50):
the the designs that he did for the uh, I
believe the P forty war Hawk P eight and you know,
he did a lot for the war effort because we
were at war and this was a way for him
to you know, get back. And he wasn't the only
director that was doing that. I mean, Frank Krapra's films

(39:13):
were extensive about the war and just you know, all
of these things to actually say, I can't believe he
was a warmonger. No, honey, he was not a warmonger.
He was actually trying to just give people hope. And

(39:33):
you know the fact that you don't see that it's
pretty pathetic. But now the entire legacy of Disney has
just been completely crapped on with just this one film.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Yes, yeah, it's I'm trying to find it and I'm struggling,
so I'm probably going to get it wrong. But I
think my favorite comment on all of this was done
by the Babylon b saying that the Department of Defense
is reaching out to hire Disney because as a bomb maker. Yes,

(40:09):
I'm like, oh my god, that is so frickin perfect.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Some of the comments that were left on the trailers
on about the movie. You know, if I were on
a plane and this was the movie, I would.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Still walk out.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
That was great. You know, someone please send me the
poison Apple because I would gladly eat it. I mean,
just things of that nature. People really did not like
this film, and it's sad because snow White is everybody
knows that story, and yeah, you can, you know, you

(40:45):
can twist it around, you can make Like I said,
there are several different takes of the snow White Tail
that have been done for TV and for movies and such.
But this was just it's they destroyed. They destroyed their
brand completely. Oh I don't see. I don't see how

(41:10):
they can they can come I mean, obviously they'll they'll
come back from this, but the only way to come
back from this is to go back to the beginning,
to the roots. And these people tried to kill the roots.
They honestly said, all of that stuff is that's old,
that's misogynistic, that is patriarchal, that is white people, that

(41:33):
is you know, they threw those things at his legacy,
and I'm like, well, yeah, well this was a white guy.
I mean, he can't escape that.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
M hm.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
But he wasn't making these stories just for white kids.
I mean I enjoyed them, and I'm not white. Oh,
I just I you know, I remember, you know, you
and I were around four the Black Cauldron, Yes, which

(42:05):
was a mess as well, and it was it was
an epic failure for Disney, and it took them a
while to actually get back on their animated film feet
It took about three years. They got The Rescuers. That

(42:26):
was a pretty good movie. It did well enough to
spawn Rescuers down under. The Great Mouse Detective also Oliver
and Company. Oliver and Company didn't do so well. And
Great Mouse Detective was a hit because basically it was
this mouse that was Sherlock Holmes and he actually lived

(42:50):
at twenty two twenty one Baker the Baker Street, right
underneath the stairs, so it was a really cute take
on the whole Sherlock Holmes thing. And it had the
voice of Vincent priseed as the bad guy of course,
you know. So that one was pretty modest. And then
came The Little Mermaid. And The Little Mermaid was actually

(43:11):
a film that had been in the work since believed
it or not, nineteen forty one. The stills that they
had were the ones that they used for the waves
at the first scene that you see where the waves
are rolling and the ship is there and everything. All
of that was actually done in the mid forties. So

(43:38):
they were hoping that they could have a modest, you know,
return with Little Mermaid. They did not expect it to
be such a huge hit, and that's you know, it
made the entire animated section of Disney grow exponentially. And

(43:59):
with this you're seeing the live action stuff, you know,
just withering because they've been sliding downward. I don't I'm
sure they will recover from this, but they have got
to get rid of this wolf crap. They have got
to get rid of putting messages that are not that

(44:19):
are not that are not true to Disney. I mean,
I don't think Pinocchio would get made today. I don't
think Pinocchio would get made today as a live action
film by Disney, simply because the messages in Pinocchio were
so important. Disney himself said his favorite film was Bambi,

(44:42):
but the most important one was Pinocchio. Yes, and I
don't think they could make a live action of Pinocchio,
not the studio.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
No. If they did, it would be start starring Dylan mulvaney.
I'm a real girl. No, No you're not.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Can you imagine? Oh my gosh, I know, no, no, no,
I oh my god, I'm gonna have nightmares.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Well I know. I posted in chat the Red State
story from from Brad, so I hope everyone gets a
go help him get paid and take a look at it.
I'm sure he'll appreciate it. But even though he's not here,
he did decide to decide to give us a couple
of stories to talk about. The next one, I think
this next one comes from his his uh, his domicile

(45:40):
area of Florida. Yeah, sort of. Yes. When when you
put this in the chat, I was like, no, no way,
this is real because it comes from the Villages.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
I think this is perfect though.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Yes, the villages is opening up a waffle house that
has golf cart accessible or accessibility to it. I love it.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
Well.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
There there were a couple of things in this story
that I found fascinating. I didn't know they were found
it in nineteen fifty five, So happy seventieth birthday to
waffle House.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
I had to have merchandise.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
They have to write the golf guard. They gotta sell
big stickers, you know, for the golf carts. But my
warped mind where it went when I read this because
it is Florida, it is the Villages, and we're used
to seeing some epic fights at waffle House. How about

(47:14):
lances of golf carts.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
I I would pay banks to see that not gonna.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Lie drunking drunken seniors and golf carts with lances outside
of waffle house at two o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
I mean, they couldn't. They couldn't. They couldn't throw chairs, toys,
done that.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
And you know, I tried to be reasonable, thinking, okay,
lances are you know, a real lance is expensive. So
so I took the time and and and and show
prep to use AI to its probably most perfection avenue
I could possibly do it. I asked Rock to come

(48:01):
up with the cheapest ways to build a homemade lance,
of course, and you know it's villages.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Yes, yes, they're on a fixed income.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
So yeah, the budget is a concern. It is. So
it gave me a low end, a mid mid range,
and a high end version of the lance. And at
the low end you're only looking at twenty two dollars.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
That's not bad, No.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
And these are and and these are not PBC pipes.
These are legit wooden lances that I asked for. So
twenty two dollars and that includes duct tape, spray paint,
a PBC cap, some phone tips, sandpaper, and a ten
foot two by two pine. The mid range was thirty
two dollars, not bad. Ten foot Now a wooden ball,

(48:57):
a funnel, some glue, sandpaper, and some spray paint, because,
let's face it, you have to represent your house collars.
The high end now we're getting okay, might have to
stop a cocktail for one night forty seven dollars. So
this the high end is a breakaway lance. It is

(49:18):
two six foot dolls with a connector, a boss of tip, funnel,
some glues, some screws, sandpaper and paint for forty seven dollars.
If I'm waffle House, I'm sponsoring the fuck out of this.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Oh, this needs to happen. This, this really needs to happen.
And can you see the golf carts like dressed like dowsting,
you know, horses.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Flying the penance off the back.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Yes, I want penance. I want to be able to
tie my favor to my favorite golf cart. I want that.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Mm hmm. You can totally see this some old ees,
you know, floral hair piece as my lucky charm hanging
off my mirror.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
I would I would, yes, I would totally do this.
I would definitely be there in full regalia and everything
and watch this. This jousting needs to happen.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Every Saturday night at the waffle house of the villages.
PvP baby.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
I just think it's it. You know, a lot of
people are like, I can't believe that they have golf
cart you know, the accessible look a golf cart accessible location.
I'm like, have you ever been to the villages. I've been.
I've been once. I think I was. I was sixteen,

(50:43):
maybe twenty, No, i was twenty. It was my second trip.
See my godmother and I went there because we were
visiting one of my godmother's friends. So we drove down
from Gainesville and spent the day at the village. It's extensive,

(51:04):
you know, there are several communities. It's a very large areas.
It's a town, you know. So for people to freak
out that they have a waffle house with golf you know,
golf cart access, I'm like, that's all you drive when
you're there, because you're going from one community to the

(51:26):
other and taking a car is stupid, but walking might
not be might be too much for some of the
senior citizens that do live there, so a golf cart
actually makes sense. I was surprised because there is not
a single golf club around here. The nearest one to

(51:50):
me is about forty five miles from here. It's in
a small town called Manola. This the community next door
to our property. Almost everybody has a golf cart. Wow,
almost everybody has a golf cart. And I was like,
why do they have golf carts? I don't understand. They

(52:12):
get in their golf carts to check the mail because
the mailbox, you know, section is outside of the community.
So they'll get in the golf cart and they'll go
check the mail, and then they go back and if
they want to go see the other lakes in the community,
they can get in their golf cart. And if they
want to have a little ride in the nice afternoon

(52:34):
in the nice breeze, they get in their golf cart.
The golf cart has become an accessory.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
You know.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
There's another little town the place that so where I
get all my booze, because it's in a different county.
It's two counties over. That town has five hundred and
seventy people, and it has five liquor stores because obviously
nobody else has. That's the only time, like it has

(53:03):
liquor soures. But they have a golf court, a golf
cart place that you can buy golf carts at and
it's primo. It is really nice. I mean we actually
stopped there to look at them because we started thinking, well,
everybody has one, maybe we should get one, but no,

(53:26):
a golf cart is very handy, and it's you know,
you if you live in a community like the villages,
if you live in a in a community that kind
of fashions itself like a golf a country club, you know,
you don't necessarily have a golf you don't necessarily a
golf course, and you don't necessarily golf, but the little

(53:50):
you know, the cart is actually very handy. It's really
really handy, and so yeah, I mean I was very surprised.
And I seen them on the road here all the time,
Like I live eight miles outside of town, and somebody
will actually get into one of their golf carts and

(54:11):
actually drive to town, go grocery shopping, and then drive back.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Because I don't want to take their car, they don't
want to take their truck. You know, they just need
a few things and I'm like, you're literally you're going
twenty miles an hour. But still they enjoy the day
for them it's.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
Like, zen, Yeah, I want to get a golf cart,
but I want to put snow tracks on it that
way because I live like half a mile from my
son's school. So you know, I would love in the
morning say here, here's the keys of the golf cart.
Go to school.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Yeah, that'd be nice. That would be nice. But I
do think it's kind of funny that people were like,
I cannot believe that they're having golf cart accessible blah
blah blah. And I'm going, but it makes sense.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Yeah, it does actually makes sense. Yeah it does.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
And I'm like, and now, now, having seen, you know,
the whole thing, now I'm thinking maybe I should still
get a golf club cart thingy whatever, You're right, right,
what am I going to take it?

Speaker 2 (55:15):
I continue the instructions on how to build these land
lances if you want.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
We should, we should actually, you know, I would actually
send that and see what the village just says, y'all
should have like jousting golf cart jousting. That'd be totally cool.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
You know, they'd be so up forward too. And you
have one old, dirty little bastard who would spike his lance.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Oh yeah, there's always wine. There's always wine. Yeah, there's
always somebody that's gonna tip the lance instead of you know,
putting wax on it or whatever.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
But yeah, so this this story, I wouldn't call it
a blunder. I call it an absolutely wonderful opportunity. But
I do have a bit of a blunder for you
that I think you'll appreciate. I actually saw this story.
Oh when did it come out? I'm looking at the date. Oh,

(56:20):
I can't find the date for some reason. But this
was part of my show prep for my one podcast
Lost Wonder that when I read it, I thought, no way,
no way, this is real. And I have to preface
it with I am a god. I can't believe I'm
going to save this. I am a huge fan of Barbie.

(56:42):
Now not your everyday, typical, run of the mill Barbie.
I don't collect them. My first wife used to collect
the high end special Barbies, you know, the ones that
were like one hundred and fifty two hundred dollars back
well look twenty some years ago. And some of those
that they had, like the medieval Princess's one, and some

(57:03):
of those outfits were just so beautifully done that I
earned a respect for the Barbie doll that I never
had growing up. Well, it seems like the wonderful people
over at Mattel Barbie must have used mutt. I don't
know what AI they used to rate their little right

(57:24):
up on this Barbie doll. They need to use a
different one because they're putting out a miss Astronaut nineteen
sixty five Barbie doll designed based on the garments worn
by NASA's Mercury seven astronauts. Okay, it's a good looking doll.

(57:45):
The outfit looks, you know, reasonable for a low end
get up. But somewhere on the packaging I still can't
I still can't believe this.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
I believe it.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
It says late years ahead of her time, miss Ashernaut
first went galactic get nineteen sixty five before any human
in space. Um, let's ignore. Oh, I don't know Valentina Turushkova,

(58:25):
Uri Gagarin, Alan Shepherd, you know, nineteen sixty one and
sixty three for the first Let's just let's just forget them.
It was miss Ashernaut who went to space before any
human did so. Is there something I need to know
about Valentina, Yuri and Alan that maybe we am I
breaking juxtapositions stories here that they're not human.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
Maybe they're on a different timeline. I mean, anything's possible
at this point. Now applying Olkham's razor here is like
somebody just said it because obviously nobody I mean seriously,
they don't get educated about this stuff anymore.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
No, they don't.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
But the thing is, everybody walks around with a freaking
computer in their pocket. They just had to Google for
two seconds, and they couldn't even do that. I'm a
little upset about it. Can you tell?

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Yes, on one hand, it's absolutely hilarious. But on the
other hand, come on, really, I mean it is literally
a fifteen second Google search.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
Yeah, it's a very quick Googles. I mean seriously, the
list comes out, I mean boom first, you know. And
I don't understand because they Mattel is notorious for researching
when they're doing a new toy. How was this? How

(59:54):
did somebody not catch this?

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
And I know because I used to die cut these boxes,
and I used to foil and emboss some things for
Mattel and Barbie in particular, you know how annoying on
the little Barbie box. You know how sometimes they would

(01:00:20):
have that little pink foil barbies, just the word barbie. Yes,
I would have to foil millions of those, just so
it would look pretty on a shelf. I didn't. Most
of my work was book covers, but we would occasionally

(01:00:42):
get things like baseball cards or merchandising boxes and things
of that nature. I know how far ahead I had
to foil and get those boxes printed and die cut
before they ever hit the market. They had plenty of time,

(01:01:04):
plenty of time to catch it. And I can guarantee
you some guy on the press and yeah, I'm I'm
I'm gender biased, but most boilers and imbossers are men.
I guarantee you someone was looking at the box, because
if you're working twelve hours a day, you really have
nothing else to do except or check out what you're
working on. I guarantee you some guy probably looked at

(01:01:27):
this box and hello, this is this, this is wrong,
and they probably stopped the press for half an hour.
They caught up the sales guy and said, hey, we
got a big issue here, and that sales guy picked
up the phone in the mittel Metel I said, I
fucking run it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
I'm I wouldn't doubt it, because you know, I don't
know if you remember, but last I want to say
it was sometime in November when the Wicked dolls came
out from Mattel. Yeah, the Barbie Wicked. They put a
website that was it's not safe for work on the boxes,

(01:02:08):
and you know they they I think it was Wicked
dot com instead of wickedmovie dot com. Yes, yeah, and
that was a that was a hilarious, hilarious mistake. And
that is another problem. That was an easy check. Yes, yes,

(01:02:28):
and they still ran it with it. So I do
think that you're right. It could have been somebody's like
ask for it, just people won't notice it, just send it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
And I say this, like I said, between that and
what I did at another printing place where I was
the layout guy for National Geographic and Victoria's Secret.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Hello.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
I had a good job, didn't pay well, but I
got to look at Victoria's Secret catalogs for twelve hours
a day. I had the direct number for Victorious, seat
the marketing team and the print team. And as I'm
laying this, laying the magazines out to go on the
print roller so we could print everything. I was the

(01:03:11):
last line of quality assurance. So if I'm laying all
of this stuff out, and if I would see a mistake,
I would immediately just reach over to my left, pick
up the phone and hit that wonderful Victoria's Secret button
that unfortunately never brought me a freaking model. I would
call them up and say, hey, you know, page thirteen.

(01:03:34):
You know, it looks like there were three models here
because you you photoshopped one out, but the third model's
arm is still around the model that was in the middle,
but now is on the left. Do you want to
send me a correction or do you just want to
go to print? Ninety nine point nine percent of the
time it was print.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
Because it saves money. It goes out, people make fun
of it, but it doesn't cost you anything. Yes, But
in this case, the whole wicked situation did cause them
a lot of grief, you know, and there were some

(01:04:17):
families that were seriously thinking about seeing because of it,
and you know, THETEL had to do a lot of
you know, a quick two step to avoid that. But
in this case, and and and this goes for for
every company. Marketing. Marketing usually has a really good research section.

(01:04:44):
That's all they do. Marketing has there's a pitch done
for a particular thing. The pitch is sent to research
to make sure that that a that pitch is up
and then before b they can patent, you know, they
can trademark whatever it was done, you know, and that
there is no flanderous libelists, you know whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
But there's a research department in most marketing firms. As
a matter of fact, the one that my sister worked for,
the entire research department was so big it wasn't even
in the same building. So it's not like these companies
like Mattel. Mattel is huge. They have a lot of research,

(01:05:30):
they have that available to them. So for them to
actually do something like this where they make such a gross,
such a gross statement like the one on the astronaut
Barbie or the wicked dot Com mistake, that was beyond

(01:05:52):
the gregious because those particular companies do have the wherewithal
to research all of this stuff, and like you know said,
all it takes is fifteen seconds on Google to make
sure that's all they had to do. There was one
I remember this was I want to say this was

(01:06:13):
about twenty years ago, and somebody was wanting to register
nurses dot com because it was going to be a
recruiting tool for the nursing the society or whatever. And
they went to do it and it's like, oh, I'm sorry,
it's taken. It's like, well, who would take it? So

(01:06:36):
they actually researched who took it. Well, it's actually not
safe for work websites, or at least it wasn't men.
And they're like, oh, oh my goodness, Oh we did
not know nurses did that, you know, that kind of thing.
And so obviously, but they did that. They went through
and they made sure that they could They had to

(01:06:59):
use something that is dissimilar from nurses dot com so
that people would not be confused because that website was
already bought, it was taken, and so they couldn't do
nurses dot org. They had to do something, you know,
and so it was they ended up with a longer
name about nursing, you know, recruitment you know, dot dot

(01:07:19):
com or something like that that was sufficiently separate so
that it would not create confusion. So I don't think
that they have any excuse for what happened with either
the Astronaut Barbie or the Wicked Barbie, because they do
have they have the wherewithal to research all of this

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completely and make sure that everything is good to go.
And this wasn't. This wasn't even the second time. I
remember a few years ago they put the wrong phone
number on one of the boxes and it was somebody's
private telephone and he he this person kept getting calls
and it was driving him crazy, and he finally, you know,

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he complained to Mattel. Mattel kept saying, well, we're sorry,
you know that that happened, But there's nothing that we
can do. The hell there isn't. There's a lot that
they can do. They can actually send out and this
is something that they did when I worked at Suncoast.
Suncoast actually one of the movies that we were putting
on the shelf had the wrong information on the back,

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and the distributor sent to stickers to put on all
the movies so that it would have the correct information.
So it sounded like Mattel can't do it. I know
they can't, but they chose not to. And you know
it's egregious because they have the money to research all

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this stuff. They have the department to research all this stuff.
All it takes is one person with a phone to
research and stuff. So yeah, I'm just like, you know,
I'm gonna have to buy this stupid doll. I know
I'm gonna have to buy it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
I know, I know. That was That was one of
my thoughts too. It's like, if I was still married
to my first wife, I would totally be out getting
in that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
I I only have one Barbie doll, believe it or not,
and it's the Statue of Liberty one and that one,
that one came out. I said, oh, that's too cool.
I need to get it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
And so I and I hate the fact that I
know exactly which one you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
I actually, when my my best friend from college got married,
she collects barbies and she had a lot of barbies.
I bought her the Bob Mackie Empress Bride. Yes, yes,
and you know what the price going on that sucker was.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
I came out, Yes, I do, because that was a
Christmas present.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
Yeah. So, but it was a beautiful, beautiful design, I
Bob MACKI and I just I was, And she said,
I she takes it out every so often. You know,
we still talk and she comes to visit. She told
me a few months ago, I actually take it out

(01:10:23):
out of my closet to look at it every so
often because it's my favorite. I was like, oh, it's
your favorite. It's like yeah, because it's got the biggest box,
because that dress is huge.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
It is. Yeah, God, I go God. I hate knowing exactly.
Oh man, but at least at one point I was
a caring, loving husband.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
Hey, you know that Barbie is an iconic brand, and
this does damage the brand when you when when they
when you make mistakes like this, you're actually damaging your
own brand. You need to be more careful with something
like this, especially when it comes to like wicked Duck. God.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Yeah, yeah, I don't. People are just asleep anymore doing
all this stuff. I don't can't think of anything else.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
No, but you know, and it goes back to what
we You know, we had discussed that maybe they just
don't know this because they're not taught this anymore. I
remember we I learned about Yuri when I was in
fourth grade.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Yeah, you know it. Yeah, I don't. I don't have
anything else I can. Like I said, it's it's laziness
kind of like our next story, someone wanted a rant.
What do you think about signal kerfuffle?

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
Oh my god, I just can't with these people. Teka
was actually allowed as a government app by the previous administration, yep.
So it's not like it wasn't there already. It was
already established and everything. But and I really don't. I mean,

(01:12:28):
I read the text and everything, and I'm like, okay,
I'm you know, I'm fine with what it was saying.
And I'm like, yeah, no light detected here either. And
of course, you know, the entire European Union is pissed
off about what they were saying. But I'm like, you
should be pissed off because it's about you and how
shitty you are. Again, no light detected, but when you

(01:12:48):
have for some reason, what's Goldberg was added to this
chat and I'm just saying, I'm trying to figure out who.
Everybody's still trying to figure out who added him. You know,
they're still trying to They have not disclosed Goldberg is
saying that he has more more screenshots, but he's debating

(01:13:15):
whether or not to disclose them or whatever. Now, this
is not about the I honestly, I'm I don't know
if this was a complete breach of our military intelligence
or not. The way I read it, I was like
this is pretty much what they've been saying they were
going to do, so I don't think you know whatever.

(01:13:36):
But what pissed me off was that Goldberg, a journalist,
seeing what was developing, did not disclose. Hey, I'm a journalist.
I can't be on this chat unless you know this
is if if this is stuff that needs to be
in a skiff. You know, I'm not sure who added

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or why.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
This.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
You know, he did not make his presence known. First
of all, he stayed quiet and just started taking screenshots.
And then and this happened a month ago, y'all, and
then decided, right before the Armed Services commedian was meeting
and doing all this stuff, to disclose these screenshots and

(01:14:23):
write up a story on it. And I'm going that
is possibly one of the sleaziest things I've ever heard
anyone doing. Because you, as a reporter, have a responsibility, yes,
to report the truth, but in this case, if you

(01:14:45):
felt that this was a huge breach, then why didn't
you pipe up and say, hey, this is a breach.
You guys are in a public communication with a member
of the press. Why didn't you pipe up? Why didn't
you take the screenshots? Then get in touch with them,

(01:15:06):
you know, And this is another option that he had.
Get in touch with everybody who was in that chat
and tell them, hey, I was in that chat and
I have screenshots of all this stuff and I would
like to make a report on this and I need
to know if this is information that should not be

(01:15:26):
disclosed to the public. That was another option he had,
and he did not take that option. Instead, he decided
to pull a Geraldo Rivera on everybody and disclose all
that shit. And I don't know, maybe you guys don't remember,
but at the beginning of us going into Iraq, Heraldo

(01:15:49):
was embedded and he started talking about the plans that
we had going in, so we had to unembed him
because it was a liability.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Well what pisses me off about this story? And I
know already might still be listening because I don't know
if there's a man a ram at a night or not.
I think back on a show that we used to
do on this network, Uh, cyber Wars cyber Chill Lou
absolutely hated signal. Yes, so I know we had to

(01:16:24):
have talked about it at one point. Why they're allowed
to use it, I don't get there. The government they
have way, way more other means than the signal. But
I'm going to add to what you talked about. This
Goldberg perhaps the biggest dumb ass on the face of

(01:16:45):
the planet. He should have, absolutely, like you said, had
had the integrity to pipe up and say something. But no,
this idiot is so stupid. Not only did he not
pipe up, but as soon as it was over, he's like, look, guys,
look what I heard. Instead of sitting in that room

(01:17:06):
for four fucking years getting all the information and publishing
a book after Trump is out of office and making millions.

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
Yeah, it was. It was. He cut his nose despite
his face, and it was extremely sleazy for him to do.
And now there are you know, there are concerns. You know,
he's saying, well, I have more, and I'm and I'm like, I, no,
you don't, because you would have you would have put
that out, you know, oh, here's part two, you know

(01:17:37):
or whatever. You would have put it all out. So
I don't think he has anything. And he's just lying
in order to cover his ass because he's now saying
but in the interest of you know, national security, that
went out the window. That is gone. You yourself fucked
that up for everybody. So don't even say national security whatever,

(01:17:59):
that that that's not even in your vocabulary, apparently, because
you decided to just put everything out there.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
What I've gotten, emails that I was c seed on
that I had no right to see, and whether it
was big time financial people at the at the company
I used to work for, that handles. God, I think
it's over a trillion dollars now that I was privy

(01:18:28):
to like a string of emails when I came home
to like twenty four emails with very very secretive information,
and the first thing I did was, I, this is
Jeff over in Vermont. You did not send this email
to the right people because I am seeing it and
I have no business of seeing it. And they actually,

(01:18:53):
you know, immediately stopped, you know, stop the email chain.
But then they actually they actually sent me a thank
you in a small check. Hey, thank you for immediately
noticing it when you did and letting us know. Because
this was they were dealing with billions of dollars in decisions,

(01:19:18):
and I could have read it them out and just said, no,
you don't you have integrity people.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
This is something that is seriously lacking, especially when it
comes to national security. For them. That national security for
most journalists tends to be uh non existent. It's not
something that they care about. They want the clicks, they

(01:19:50):
need the sensationalism, and so when they see something like this,
you immediately decided, Hey, I'm gonna like post it all
out there, and I'm like, okay, this is this does
not you know what, I still have faith in the
people that Trump picked to run things. It's I still

(01:20:11):
have faith. I They will mess up sometimes, obviously, but
that what what's going on is that what he did,
when Goldberg did, actually eroded what little hope I had
for journalism to start making comeback. I mean that's gone. Yeah,

(01:20:32):
and I and and I get it. To call him
a reporter, is is a strategy? Yes, this is true,
m D. But the thing is people still read The Atlantic,
and people still will click on headlines that are very sensational.
And this was this was an egregious, you know thing

(01:20:53):
that happened. What I want to know is how he
was at it, Who added him? And there is concern
that they've may be a mole in that entire group.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
So knowing knowing signal as an IT guy, I would
one percent say he just typed the name and hit
in it auto fild and he had entered or I
say he whoever? I I would bet everything on my
IT degrees and background that it was an honest mistake.

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
So who has who has Goldberg's number?

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
Probably all of them. Megan Kelly talked about this today
and I thought it was brilliant how she said. She says,
if you looked at my my rolodex of who I
have contacts with, you would be scared because if she goes,
if I fact fingered the wrong person, then you know,
I'm like, oh crap, she goes, it's She was even

(01:21:53):
saying it was probably a mistake. But when you're talking
about something of this nature, slow down, you know, I do.
I do love that JD vance from what was released
looks like a freakin genius mm hmm, because he's like, oh, man,

(01:22:13):
does Trump know you know forty percent of europe is
uses that channel? We only use four percent. Are we
sure this goes against you know that this doesn't go
against Trump's you know hip, any hypocrisy being presented or
any of that. So if they did it on purpose,
A it was a brilliant strategy by a JD. Vance's team,
not saying that's the case, but I do believe it

(01:22:35):
was just one of those honest mistakes. That boy, that's
not a place you make a mistake like that, especially
especially that individual. M hm.

Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
Well anyway, well it's getting close to the time that
we usually wrap up. Then we could go on for
a little while because you don't have a lot to
say as to where we can find you, like, actually
I do, actually you do. Never mind, we'll take it
back do.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
I have a shit ton of fires that are being stoked.
So we'll start with Sunday at eight pm. I think
I may be doing an increase episode fifty nine about
the Dutch East Indian Trading Company and Chinese pirates, so

(01:23:28):
if you like pirates, there may be a special show there.
Then it's bright and then at some time or probably
around eleven eleven thirty, I will be running the ITC
twin episode, so that will be airing live on X.

(01:23:50):
Also big announcement. Because I'm the producer, I get to
pick and pick win and how we do this. The
the KALRN players are coming back the first or second
week after Easter, So Aggie, if you're abstaining from drinking
you'll be able to drink during it. We will be back.

(01:24:15):
We will be having a springtime show and it will
be our take on Alice in Wonderland. So yes, So
casting is taking place now. Scripts have been done for
three years. I've been wanting to do this for three years.
We are finally frickin' doing it because I'm the one

(01:24:36):
that's producing it. And another project that is going to
be starting recording very very soon is Asgard North's radio
play that will feature you and a very special guest
that you know, I know, but mainly myself and my

(01:24:57):
son will be doing a D and D kind of
radio play, the full full featured sound effects, music, everything.
This is a fully produced production. I got about six
hours of material ready to go to start recording, so
that will be releasing hopefully hopefully soon. And then the

(01:25:17):
following Sunday at eight pm, you can find me on
Lost Wonder doing space and science. So I feel like
I beat Brad.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
Yeah you did, you totally did. That's for me. You
can find me at Aggie Weekend and at Aggie the
Barkie Does All Over on X eight thirty pm Eastern
Tuesday nights doing the Cocktail Lounge usually with the ever
swall Brad Slager eight thirty pm Eastern Friday nights, doing
he said, she's in with the awesome rowdy Rick. The

(01:25:46):
second Wednesday of every month at APM, the guys get
together for Toxic Masculinity, where we host a bait of
the month and I bring the drink of the evening.
And of course you and I also have spirited books.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
The first Monday that is coming up within two weeks,
isn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
Yes, it is eight thirty pm Eastern, So yeah, CATS
is on April seventh, so we will be And like
I said, I already read my book because it was
ready for last time, so we're good. We're good to
go this time. So yes, anyway, thank you so much
Jeff for pitching in and being my guest tonight. It was.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
I enjoyed it. I hope everyone loved the fly by
UFO in Chat. I saw that. I already thought it
was a mouse at first, but no, it was a UFO.
I had flying in Chat periodically because the alien invaded
the show. I figured there's only one good way to
play us out, and here we go

Speaker 3 (01:27:13):
To