February 11, 2024 • 55 mins
The Coin Show Podcast Episode 231!
Hello fellow coin nerds! Mike and Matt bring you episode 231 of The Coin Show! We will cover the news in numismatics, and check out YOUR coolest thing! Support the show by hitting that like button, becoming a subscriber, or becoming a supporter!
Matt's coin shop: www.LDRcoins.com
Mikes' coin shop: www.HJBLTD.com
Hello fellow coin nerds! Mike and Matt bring you episode 231 of The Coin Show! We will cover the news in numismatics, and check out YOUR coolest thing! Support the show by hitting that like button, becoming a subscriber, or becoming a supporter!
Matt's coin shop: www.LDRcoins.com
Mikes' coin shop: www.HJBLTD.com
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This is the Coin Show Podcast,a podcast about coins and coin collecting from
the perspective of both dealers and collectors, hosted by two guys with a passion
for collecting and a combined experience ofover fifty years in the coin industry.
Here's Matt Dinger and Mike Noteleman onthe Coin Show Podcast. It is episode
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two thirty one of the Coin ShowPodcast. Yes, it rolls on.
I'm Mike, I'm Matt. Helloeveryone, And tonight on the Coin Show
Podcast, we have the auditorial thatI had to give us last week.
I just got a little tied upand stuff, and we have your coolest
thing mm hm, as well asother fund and frivolity. Oh I like
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yes. But first, as always, the news that news did he always
gets my head moving. It's agood one. It's a good one.
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The news is brought to us bystreet signs. Sometimes all you need is
a sign and we're there for you. We're street signs. I like it.
Well, yeah, that's that's that'swho we're brought to this week.
So one of the things that Ilook forward to every year is seeing the
new data on coins has been focusedon, you know, seeing the new
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designs for the first time. Soyou know, you have the Native American
dollars, you have the new quarters, you have, you know, just
a new data on the old familiarcoins like your set and stuff like that.
But because of the innovative or becauseof the new quarters, you probably
see those first. I have.You have to see a twenty twenty four
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anything yet. But I also haven'treally been looking that much. So well,
the only reason I can claim thatI have is because we have a
subscription to the Women on Quarters.Oh okay, well that makes sense.
We get rolls of them in theshop. And so I have the Reverend
Doctor Polly Berry. Uh, that'sthe first one for this year. And
it's a really cool coin. It'sgot you know, a hope on the
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obverse, and like I really dolike the idea of hope in coins.
Yeah, no, I mean Ithink it's an interesting design. It's definitely
something we haven't seen before h inour coinage something like this, So that's
pretty cool. I'll be interested tosee one and hand again to see how
the picture translates to an actual coin. But looks interesting. Yeah. The
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Royal mint us Mint joint coin ventureis launching here and sold out there,
did it? It sold out inthe in across the pond. Well,
I mean a lot of a lotof of their issues, and they made
a lot for this, had reallysmall mintages on them. Ye five hundred,
two hundred, you know, stufflike that. So there is actually
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a set, a gold set thathas a quarterouns Britannia, a quarter ounce
gold eagle, and a quarter ounceversion of the British coin. Okay really,
and that was put out by them, That was put up by the
royal men, okay, And therewere only like two hundred and fifty sets.
Well, I mean that's okay,that's they they I think that they
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do a little bit better job oflimiting some of the releases that they do,
because I mean, obviously Great Britainis not nearly as large of a
country as we are, of course, but you know, I think two
hundred and fifty any of any setlike that is actually a very very small
number. So I don't know ifthis was a take on the Protaton Nation
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set, you know, trying todo something with written, right, are
you? Okay? But if itwas an economist the mark, I mean,
the Protaton Nations set had two coinsthat were exclusively made for the set
by by the United States mean andby the Canadian men. This one has
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the same thing, but the designsare so the it's hard to say which
is the opverse of this coin becauseyou know, but the side with the
two heads on it is common toboth the US coin and the UK coin,
with some exceptions. Yea, yeah, it's just a little bit different,
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but but basically the same. Itgives you know, the weight and
things like that on the British coin, and of course has Britannia at the
top and Liberty at the bottom,and they only had one side of the
coin to work with because of courseyou have Charles on the other side.
Correct, And I think it's interestingin the story anywhere with the with the
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British cord. It's actually hard tofind a I don't know, I was
gonna say, I want to seehim next to each other, like like
literally next to each other, notnecessarily in the set, but maybe just
the images next to each other before. Yeah, basically the Britannia says Britannia
and Liberty and then it has youknow, I think one ounce fine,
nine nine gold and twenty twenty four. Okay, so I mean they're just
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slightly different coins. Well, let'ssee, the South African krugarand has become
so successful that they're going to makeproofs. I mean, that'd be cool.
They You know, the the silverKruegrand is a fairly new thing.
For years and years, the goldkrue Grand was kind of like one of
the main stays of gold billion.So when they came out with the silver
ones, I thought, yeah,that was a cool idea. Well mainstays.
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The Kruegrand was the only gold cointhat you could buy in the world
for a long time, right,And I think was it twenty seventeen or
so, they popped out the silverones and those were super popular, and
well they did it. They dida limited and I still think it's approve.
The first one yeah too, Andthey made that for the fiftieth anniversary
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of the krugar in so it wastwenty seventeen, and so they put those
out and they were popular and peoplehave liked them, and I guess they
figured out that this whole seniorach thingis kind of cool too. It's funny.
Yeah, So now they're they're goingto make a proof of it.
I mean, I don't know ifthey're they're successful enough to do that,
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but I definitely wouldn't make you know, I don't know. I think that
silver proofs are silverproofs, but whatyou have to charge for them on the
world market is I think gonna killthis guy, That's true. I kind
of want to see like a bullionversion, like a couple of dollars over
spot type, you know, example, would be interesting. It's kind of
how we treat the other ones.Well, that's what I'm saying, Like,
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I want to see some that arespecifically like you can buy rolls of
them, and I don't know,just the thought to cross my mind.
And the latest in money grab news, so the New Zealand Mint and New
Ways latest silver coin takes the shapeof the USS Enterprise, which you know,
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hey, if you're gonna, ifyou want to hit, you can
reach into the bag and pull outyou know, Star Trek, Star Trek,
Star Wars, Star Wars, Lordof the Rings Disney Disney or I
want to say Sesame Street, butactually probably not because I don't know.
There's been much. No Big Bird'sBig Bird's done. Oh he's done.
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He got caught in a sting andruined his whole career. Look, Kermon,
first you told me Kerman's dead.That's true. That's time anyway.
It's encouraging kids to live in atrash can. That's Oscar the crash.
Though some some times that might bea better environment, that's true. Do
you remember when in Publishing was boughtby Gray Sheet. I do. I
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had some worries that this might happen, because often when you know, a
new company takes over, there's changeat the top. And with Whitman,
we had our friend of the CoinShow, Dennis Tucker, who was the
publisher, and you know, Imean it was just a tremendous friend of
our show as well as a friendof ours personally. And so he is
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now stepping down. They're calling itretiring. I think he wants to go
sit on a beach and drink drinkdrinks with if I know Denis, That's
not what he's going to do though. He's going to write. He's going
to continue to do what he doesand just be you know, a great
dad, you know, and justa wonderful human being and a writer,
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because that's what he is at thecore of everything. And so I don't
think that he's going to disappear fromthe hobby at least I hope not.
I think that would be a lossto the hobby. Yeah, I agree
completely, yes, But anyways,congratulations Dennis on congratulations retirement. I'm said
for myself more than anything else.Well, we'll have to see who the
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new publisher for Whitman is and becomefriends with him. Maybe it'll be Figenbaum.
Cool. Yeah, you never know. You never know. So if
you don't follow the coin week blog, you should. I mean from an
educational standpoint, right, I foundfour articles this week that have not so
much news but interesting educational content ina time when news is kind of a
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bit slow. It's February. Youknow, we're in between the big international
show, the International Money Show andUS Money Show. Yep, it's coud
be in Colorado, so you know, there's just not a lot going on,
and Coinweek gives us, you know, stories like this. So we
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have mottos on our currency that arenot mandated and we'd originally included, but
serve, I'm gonna take my chanceof my bully pulpit and I'm gonna say
they basically serve as propaganda to thisday. Okay, well they do.
I mean, look, that's whatit was for. That's what it is.
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It is saying that we're better thanother people when we use these mottos
or that were guided by providence orGod or whatever. And it's a lovely
thought. So this is the firstbill where things first appeared, you know,
where this model was first used.And a lot of people don't realize
that makes sense. In God isour trust And these were made right around
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the time of the Quintajack of eighteensixty four, which was when the two
cent piece you know, was debutedwith him got to be trusted. And
this is a stupid rare note.These are twenty dollars interest bearing notes very
very best compound interest trugery note,very very rare notes super cool. By
the way, look at look atit can go to the next one.
You'll see this one has the secondthe second motto that was included on it.
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I guess I didn't get that one. I'm sorry, my fault.
Oh okay, I'm sorry. Butanyway, so at the bottom, at
the bottom right, they twitched itover to in God we trust. No,
no, no, it's in Godour trust. And then hold on
a second, because I'll tell youwhat the other one is. I think
it is in God we trust onthe new motto. See oh it says
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God and our right, Oh Godon the left hand side, God and
our right on this same note.So this was put up by coin coin
Week in two separate articles. ButI think it's really cool that they take
their time, you know, todo the same thing that we do and
educate people, because you know,one is on the left hand side and
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the other one is on the righthand side, so on the left is
yeah, there you go, right, Very cool, very very interesting.
Yeah, though, this is agreat website. If you guys don't use
it, these guys are awesome.Coin Week. You guys should check that
blog out and get a lot ofinformation. Lord knows they we talk about
a lot of their stories, sowe do, and we give them full
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credit. Yes we show this nextarticle is on pattern coins and it covers
you know, a lot it covers. Well, it was five or ten
different pattern coins that are in theSmithsonian collection. So it has the fifty
dollars Union, which may be acoin that some people may not have ever
known existed. Yeah. They thewhole gold coinage series was meant to go
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up to a fifty dollars coin.We just never never got to that point.
They stopped at twenty. Barely gotthere. Yeah, we barely got
to twenty. But yeah, theywere actually intending to go to fifty,
but they just they made the patterns, they had the design, they were
ready to rock. They just didn'tget to it. So yeah, So
the first one they showed was,you know, the addition of in we
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trust to the five dollars gold.And the last one they issued is that
they show is the the buffalo nickelpattern. But in between that, the
one just above it is a halfdollar pattern. Yike, spikes. That
thing's busy. Yeah, there's alot going on. That's basically they took
everything that we've ever had on acoin ever and smashed it into one coin.
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It's like, hey, thing isthat I always give Barbara a lot
of credit for being you know,this this artisan that created these things that
strike so well and are good fordie life. And can you imagine if
they used this thing, they'd havebeen going through dies like nothing. Well,
like I said, I think it'sliterally they wanted to incorporate every single
thing that's ever been on a UScoin into one coin because If you look
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at this coin, you have ayou have an eagle, then you have
liberty, then you have a fG and cap. Then you have stars,
then you have rays. Then youhave in God we trust, and
then you flip it off. Right, that's just the obverse, and there's
liberty on the front too, don'tforget that, I said. But then
you flip it over. On theback, you have rays. You have
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a heraldery style eagle. You havea laurel wreath. You have a laurel
wreath, you have that's that mightbe you got the original heraldic eagle with
the stars and the clouds and therays. Again, you've got the ball
at the bottom. Yeah, it'sliterally pretty much every design element ever on
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one coin. It's pretty cool,really, It's kind of cool. But
I think it'd be a nightmare tostrike, oh for sure. But yes,
yes. And lastly, a guidefor chain Sense. So there were
other denominations and coins as well,but you should go and check this site
out for yourself. So I particularlyreally like this chain cent collector's guide.
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It shows the different varieties and thedifferent dates when they delivered them. And
yeah, I mean this is nerdingout, Yes, This is a completely
nerd out article, and God blessthem for publishing stuff like this. This
is the kind of stuff that youneed to look at. Well, if
you're a chaincent collector, for sure, I mean that's you get into the
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different. I'm not a collector andI'm turning out on stuff big time.
Well that's okay, you can turnout anyway you want, Buddy Yep.
As a full service coin show,we are not confined by any constraints and
as such, I felt that thisinteresting article on women found on ancient coins
was really great. Okay, Ilike it. So these are some of
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some of the lesser known. Theone that I expected to be in here
that is not was Cleopatrick. Cleopatrick, well, she wasn't really attractive on
her coins. You ever see oneof her coins? Yes, she kind
of looked like, well, youknow, there's a lot of talk that
that might have been fitting. ButI mean, you got so aphrodity isn't
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even real, right, I mean, there's just there's there's a bunch on.
But this kind of goes through.You know, we have the women
on quarters right now, here's womenin ancient coins and all the different ways
that they're because typically in ancient coins, they're mostly emperors that around them.
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Yeah, especially the wives of emperors. Like that's what this last kind of
group here was was wives of emperors. But then yeah, there's definitely some
some allegorical women too, like Arethusaand and ices. Yeah, so not
that Ices, the other Yeah,yeah, the original the og And then
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as kind of a wrap up,and I'm gonna stop blowing Coin Week's horn.
But they also published a really greatbuyer beware article on unsearched roles.
I love this because the fact ofthe matter is is that you hear this
term a lot, right, andbecause there's such a quote loose definition of
it, a lot of people canmean a lot of different things, and
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that's not good for me. Wecan't. We get a lot of people
coming into the office sometimes and theywant to like they want to buy wheat
pennies, Like they want to buya five thousand coin bag of wheat pennies.
And they one of the questions theyalways ask us, are these unsearched?
Well, friend, I don't havetime to go through them. So
unsearched you mean, did I gothrough them? No? I didn't,
because I don't have time for that, but somebody probably did so. Well,
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somebody had to them because they're allwheat pennies, right right. So
that's kind of the thing that againstme about it is is are they searched?
Well, it really depends on whatyour definition of search is. It's
like, were they categorized into wheatscents at least that much? I know?
Beyond that, I don't know whatanybody who might have looked for them
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was looking. My standard answer isunsearched by us. Yes, yeah,
I mean it's unsearched by me.Are you gonna find knowing that SVDB in
there? Probably not? Probably not, but I'm not either. Yeah.
Yeah, I think that it's it'sreally important to call these things out and
define them and tell everybody, hey, you know, no, this this
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if we need to, you know, have a definition for it in our
hobby, then we need to havea definition for it. But that's that's
what we should do. Yeah,there you go, And finally in the
news, this is all that story. God, I hate this story.
We have been preaching about this forhow long now? Yes, I like
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the fact that somebody's finally called thisout, But I have found absolutely nothing.
I mean, I've been looking forstuff on this on the internet and
not finding it, and yet peoplestill ask about them. There's a there's
a running joke with us and withJack Smith about finding coins with full drum
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lines. That's pretty good. Ilike that. Now. It's like,
do you know what a drum lineis? Right? Sure? What is
it? Well? Drum line wouldis a group of people to get together
in drum, like in a band. But I think on this coin you're
probably talking about a bunch of peopledoing it in March. I think on
this coin you're talking about the actualdrum line on the coin. Well,
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but the whole thing is it's notthe high point on the coin, and
it's near the edge. So itwill absolutely be one of the things that
you should expect to be absolutely fulland crisp on any coin, because the
metal had to flow through there toget to it. Right. But this
story is talking about really basically stuffthat we've been talking about for years,
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which is just terribly written and orai written articles that will insinuate that certain
common, very very common coins areworth millions or in this case, the
article says hundreds of millions of dollarsand the coins themselves aren't. The typical
question that we get about it though, is that, well, why do
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they publish this? Well, theypublish it because they want you to click
on it, right, and guesswhat they got what they wanted? Yeah,
yeah, but I mean what citieslike on our feeds? You know,
all these stories have these little adsover on the side, which is
fine. You know, this isa coin website, I get it.
But there are other websites out therethat put out these sensational news stories and
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then make money when you see thoseads on the right hand side. So
that's what they're doing. If theycan put out some stupid story that doesn't
make any sense but can cause alot of people to click on it,
guess what, they make a lotof money. So it doesn't really matter
what they write. It just mattersthat the fact that they get people to
come to their website and view thoseads, and that's the skinny of it.
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So that's where all this is comingfrom. They're putting out sensational titles
to their stories. It's called clickbait. It's garbage. And that's all I
have to say about that. Thisis what you need to do about it,
is that when you see something thatyou've clicked on and that you've become
disappointed with, you know what itoffered you, Right, you need to
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make note and just note you knowwhat side it came from, who the
author was, whatever. And there'salso a lot of new apps out there
that are also just absolutely horrible.Like I posted a video I forget where
it was not too long ago,of an app that was like it scanned
a nineteen seventy eight penny and saidit was worth three hundred and fifty dollars
when it looked like it was anau nineteen seventy eight penny that you could
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stick in your pocket change. It'sjust there's a lot of people out there
trying to make money on our hobbythat have nothing to do with our hobby
and know nothing about our hobby andare giving out terrible information. So so
with like the Daniel Carr fakes,right, they're not fakes. There is
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there's a kind of karma that followsthose, right that when somebody tries to
do something on scrupulous with them,when somebody thinks they're getting something that they're
not and they think they're stealing itfrom somebody, that they kind of get
their come up. It's when theyfigure out what it is. And I'm
okay with that, right, Butthese other guys they're feeding on They're feeding
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on the newbies, they're feeding onthe lazy, which I don't have any
problem with that, you know,because it's like that's their education. They're
going to learn one way or theother, and they usually learn the hard
way, and they're they're preying onpeople that just you know, have no
other source of information. So anyways, so my point was and said,
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you make note of them, andyou know, you don't really say anything
about it until you've seen it acouple of different times. And now when
you've seen it repeated over and over, this is when you tell your friends,
hey, look, you know thisplace they do this, this place
they do this. Watch out forthese ads, you know, and just
don't click on them, and eventuallythey do go away. I just think
the majority of the people that consumethat content and are not educated enough in
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the coins themselves to figure out thatthey're being fed bad information. Well,
they're typically not collectors either, no, never, So honestly, they're not
hurting our hobby by not hanging around. But at the same time, we
really just don't like that kind ofmessage. I see it as a very
large time suck and resource suck forplaces like us that have to answer those
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phone calls. And and I canagree with that one hundred percent. So
it does affect me personally, butyeah, for the most part, it
doesn't affect most people. Right,affects me too, yeah for sure.
All right, Well that was right. That was the news. That was
fun news, Thank you. Andthe news tonight was brought to us by
street sign. Sometimes all you needis a sign we're there for you.
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We're street signs. I like that. So, friend, dude, if
I can't make you laugh, thenyou you're great at it. So that's
all that matters. Thanks, Oh, big, warm and fuzzy. So
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I think maybe it's a good timefor me to get into my editorial is
editorial or just kind of is,but it's kind of not. I really
don't want it to be that becauseI don't think that it's deserving of that.
But at the same time, Ireally do kind of mean some of
it. About about a three monthsago, two and a half months ago,
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I suggested the idea of starting acoin club online with people, and
you know, there was a reallygood response. A lot of people replied
said, hey, I'd really liketo do that. That's great, And
all I told him was, Okay, this is what I need you to
do. We're going to use thisspecific forum to just kind of meet to
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start out, and I need shouldjust sign up over there. And you
know, I'm not. Maybe theythink I'm capitalizing on it. I'm not.
But it's like, you know,it's a clean forum that everybody can
get into and I know is goingto be You're going to see it all
and all that kind of stuff,and there we can kind of work on
this club and we can kind ofget it started. And of all the
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people, and I mean literally allthe people, I you know, said
to people, hey, look,what do you think we should do as
far as leadership. Should we havea council? Should we have one person?
Should we have a president a vicepresident? You know, how do
you guys want to do it?Nothing? No reply. And here's the
thing I don't expect, like forit to be you know, fifty million
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answers back then, but there wasnot a one. And it's like this,
I think is what drives people awayfrom coin clubs is lack of participation
by the members of Everybody wants tosit back and be undertained and that's great,
but somebody at some point has todo a little bit of the lifting.
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And so that's kind of what Ifound and was really disappointed in,
was that. So we started outwith this with a couple of really great
ideas. We started out with acharity event, and we got we got
somebody to buy into the charity event. Automatically, first thing boom. It
was taken care of. And thatwas the only thing that the Coin Club
ever ever accomplished. And if that'sall it ever did, I'm proud of
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it. It did something great.But at the same time, you know,
I mean just something as simple asHey, the fact of the matter
is I got way too much onmy plate to run and collaborate and do
all the stuff that it takes torun a club like that. What I
was trying to do is put abunch of people together so that we could
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get together and we could have somethingthat's worthwhile and is worth you know,
doing right, And that's kind ofwhat it's all about. So if you
didn't understand when I said, hey, let's go over to my collect get
your you know, all I wantyou to do is send me an email,
tell me what your username there is, and that way I know that
the usernames I'm improving to get intoour group are real people, and there's
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no bots in there, there's nonothing else. It's all real people.
We can just talk about the cluband what we want to do and how
we want to start it, andlook, this opportunity is still there,
you know, it hasn't been toolong. So we've got like there were
at least one hundred people that repliedand came back and it's like, okay,
so forty seven of them migrated overto my collect and that's great,
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But of those forty seven, noactivity well and something there is that old
saying that that you can lead ahorse to water, but you can't make
it drink my friend. And sometimesthat's just the way things go. You
know, no what I get it, But it's like, look, this
is my please. If you ifyou really want this club, then it's
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the people that are going to makethe club. It's the members that are
going to make this club. It'snot it's not an extension of this show.
It is not me standing up andentertaining people. Or you know,
pontificating about stuff. I want toparticipate in a regular, normal club like
everybody else does. Well, maybewe give it a reboot, except maybe
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over on a different platform. Maybewe we go here where you know,
a lot of people are and alot of people seem to be, and
maybe that's the way to do it. Maybe maybe there's a better forum for
us to do that. I youknow, I think it's great. You
know, I'm I'm always happy toI want to be inclusive, not exclusive,
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sure so, but but I alsoI really want people that want something
out of a club, right.They want to share, and they want
to they want to learn and andthat. So that's it. I'll put
away my soapbox and that'll be that. Okay, Well that was okay.
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I like that. There's not nospicy mic in there. There was just
a little disappointed minds. It couldhave been it could have been so bad.
No, but it wasn't. Itwas good. You were good,
You were good. Well you wantto check out everybody's coolest thing. I
know, it was kind of lastminute, and I kind of dropped it
on you guys cuz I'm not gonnalie. I got real busy this week.
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Totally forgot about it, but youguys brought it and brought us some
really cool stuff at the last minutetoo. I know. I gave you
guys like I gave you guys likeeight hours notice, and you guys brought
us some cool stuff. So let'scheck this out. You guys, this
is your coolest thing. I'm justgonna jump right into it. If you're
okay with that, I meet,Sure, they're in order, absolutely,
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But I do want to comment onone thing that came up in the chat
chat from Mike, and it's ourvery own Justin. Irvin, go ahead,
and he says that he finds itmore that people want to feel valued,
not that they don't want to work. It's a valid point, Justin.
Yeah, that's a valid point thatpeople want to feel valued. But
at the same time, I that'smaybe you can explain to me how how
(30:15):
I can make that better. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Maybe we can get together and figureit out as a team. Sure,
okay, your coolest thing. Youguys are awesome. Thank you so
much again for sharing all your stuffon short notice. We got forty four
comments in a couple hours, soyou guys are awesome. First we have,
Joshua Wright said, took me ayear to save up for this,
(30:37):
but totally worth it, and heshows us a nineteen twenty two Saint Gaudin's
twenty dollar gold piece in n GCMssixty three. One of my favorite coins
of all time. Absolutely beautiful coin. I love it. I really like
this new studio because it gives usthe ability to zoom in on the coin
(31:00):
like you just did. Yeah,and Joshua, right, double dipper,
double dipper. We're calling a doubledipper already. That's okay though, He
says, also got this really coollarge sized note, large sized note,
first and only one I've owned,and he shows us a nineteen twenty three
Series one dollar silver certificate. Veryvery cool. Thank you see here,
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Travis Wolf says on thin planchet,I believe can't seem to find any info
on this. Unfortunately, my friendand as our friend Paula pointed out,
it has been removed from an encasement. So if you guys don't know what
an encase coin is, I'm tryingto well, I usually have something like
that laying around, But basically it'sa coin that was put in a good
(31:45):
luck piece a larger piece was aroundthe outside of it, and then that
would have some information on it likekeep me and you'll never go broke,
lucky penny, something like that,And that's exactly what happened to this coin,
and then it was popped out,So that's what caused that mark around
the outside of the coin here.As you see, I'm guessing Paula is
one hundred percent correct on that one. Then he posts another coin. Both
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sides have the exact same marks.Yes, unfortunately, again, my friend,
that is also a damaged coin,and I'm sure Paula yep pointed that
out. So there you go.Keep looking, though, go check out
those guys over there at live cooinQ and ay they will educate you on
mint ariage varieties. Those guys areawesome at that. Yeah, so they
are really really good at it.Yep. George Cabrook shows us an eighteen
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ninety nine V. Nickel, verybright, very very nice. Thank you
up. Next, Jack Riley says, pick up my very first black Eagle
note FR two thirty two and VFtwenty five. I particularly like this one
because Gabe Parker was the Register ofthe Treasury for a mere two months I
(32:53):
thought that was neat. Yep,there you go. Very good. Though.
The thing to understand and about thatis they often will print a note
for far longer than the person isin office, correct, till the replacement.
Yeah, till the replacement comes alongand sticks with a job for a
little while. Then they usually willwe'll change the place and make new notes.
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And I want to comment on thiscomment. Oh yeah, James Emmons
says, no fakeerrors. Guys,let's not even entertain that joke. I'll
tell you what it's like. Ilike the fact that we can look at
it and we can learn from it, and we can teach somebody, Hey,
look, this is what this is. Yeah, they think it's the
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coolest thing that apparently they don't know, and that's going to be our opportunity
to help them more. Yeah,that's right. That's time for education,
and that's what we're all about.So if we can help you understand what
you have and educate you on itand help you, then that's what we're
all about. So there you go. Let's see here. Bob Brock says,
I have this one coming very soon, not in hand yet, but
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close, King of Morgan's. Thatmeans it's an eighteen ninety three s Morgan
silver dollar. This one has beengraded VG eight by n GC, and
it has a little bitty green catsticker, which means it's also been CIC
approved. And it does look likea very nice example. Yes, looks
like just a very honest, reallygood circulated example. Yeah, even where
(34:20):
even color, no problems. Ilike it. Yeah, very desirable.
Jack Rowe says, can I doubleit this time? Yes? You may?
Is that a double? Thank you? Sir? May please have another?
I was gonna say I thought thatwas the feller from up above us
and said that was a triple dip. But no, let's see here.
Couldn't leave this out. Found atwo thousand and four piece metal d do
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fs one oh one found role huntingsure has seen better days, but and
it was hard to verify. Ps. Sorry for my picture quality. Well
that's okay. And these interesting varietiesdefinitely are fun to look for. I
know, I used to do itfor a long long time. So awesome,
guays you found that there was thesecond picture was there? And yeah
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they don't have it? Oh,okay, I guess not. Ernesto Aguilar
says, my first purchase of thefirst spouse series. Is that a Jackie
O Nasis? I think it is. It's hard to see from your picture
that Arnesta, but that sure lookslike Jackie O. It's one of the
better lowmentage issues. I remember whatwere talking about these before they first came
(35:31):
out, thinking about how they weregoing to be sleepers, and then they
just absolutely flopped and nobody cares abouthim anymore. Yeah, eh, well
we do they care about us?That there half on some pure gold.
Yeah we tried, guys, wetried. Can't can't win them all,
can't polish and turn. That's rightJobohannon says, pick this up this morning
in a show a U fifty fivecac and he shows us and oh,
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that's pretty an eighteen thirty four capbus half with some really really pretty toning
on the reapers and it's in aPCGS holder as we can see here by
the true view. Uh. Andhe says it's an AU fifty five cac,
very very cool and in our uhin our chat a good super Bowl
tip, saying double dipping is okay, just not with chips and dip Ooh,
(36:15):
that's true. Super Bowl tomorrow.Who's gonna win this Super Bowl?
Weekend span the chat with who's gonnawin? You guys, You guys decide
for us. I want to know. I haven't. I haven't made my
bet yet, so I need toAh Mark says, high grade but unslabbed
eighteen fifty eight flying eagle cent witha clip at three o'clock. That is
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exactly what that is, a highgrade flying eagle cent with a clip at
three o'clock. And here is thething to note about this is that if
you look directly opposite the clip,you'll see a little bit of issue on
the rim. And that is exactlywhat you should see on it. How
you know it's a real clip.It's called the the blake see effect.
Yeah, very cool. Dennis Mendozasays, very tough coin, and he
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shows us an eighteen fifty seven ohten dollar gold piece in pcgs AU fifty
three. Again, Dan is comingwith the awesome early oment gold. I
love it. Very cool coin,pre Civil War gold. It's awesome anyway,
I do. I like it.I really like it. Yeah,
and not to put that to shame. Paul Price says, eighteen fifty eight
(37:23):
C five dollar gold piece birthday giftto myself. I like it very cool.
Looks like a nice coin. Tothe pcgs AU fifty three holder.
I like that coin, I reallylike it. I will tell you that
I've seen way more two and ahalf from Charlotte than five. Well,
(37:44):
that's actually a really nicely struck onefor a Charlotte piece. Most of those
Charlotte Charlotte piece it's a hammered Yeah, Charlotte Delomica coins are not struck very
well. And look at the star. Yeah, that's a nice looking coin,
very very cool. Is there apicture of the back? No,
that's okay, that's okay. MikeEdwards says, putting together a set of
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NGC slabs circulating coins from Great Britainat the time of my birth nineteen sixty.
These are not yet slabs. Ipicked them up a little while ago
because I thought they were attractive tolook at. The farthing was out of
production in nineteen sixty and they alsodidn't mint any large pennies during that year,
so these are dates closest I couldget. So he shows us a
nineteen fifty three to one penny,very cool, nice looking uncirculated coin,
(38:30):
nice strike. Yeah, and thenshows us down here in nineteen fifty six
or one farthing? Very cool,a whole farthing. Oh, Cody brought
some paper money to the show.I like it, he says. One
of three reported notes on the charter, the finest reported, which apparently is
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this not and the first to comeout in over fifty years. If you've
been to the Higgins use the dthere's high chance you have seen you have
never seen a note from this charter. Wow. So he shows us Cody
I know very well he is anIowa national note collector. So he that's
a beautiful note. He has alot of nationals and is a very He's
(39:16):
a connoisseur of fine Iowa nationals.He shows us a five dollars original series
Lisbon Iowa note in a PCGS finefifteen details holder. Very very cool.
I like that note too. Ithas Christopher Columbus on one side. Did
you know that Christopher Columbus was actuallyon our paper money? There you go,
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So now he was on paper andon yep, yes he was.
And let's see here, Jody Dotsonsays, pick us up at the Hot
Springs, Arkansas coin show. Itis my first Celtic coin. Very cool.
This is a little Celtic stater theseare cool pieces that they kind of
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they k to sort of show ahorse. They did at the beginning you
could pretty much pick out the horse, and then over time they just kind
of devolved into a bunch of symbolsthat were kind of supposed to look like
a horse, which in the slabyou can actually see it says reverse disjointed
horse. So they kind of overtimethey just kind of that's the worst,
(40:20):
kind kind of pooped out. GeorgeMiller's up Next has recently picked up a
really nice nineteen thirty one floor,and I agree with you. That looks
like a really nice nineteen thirty oneone floor. Thanks George. Longtime friend
Malcolm mcgauthe Yeah, Malcolm McGaugh says, this is a rupee from the Princely
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States of a Wadha awad aw Adhd. I'm just just spelling it so people
can understand what I'm trying to say. From around eighteen twenty one, it's
unusual when the obverse tries to emulateEuropean coat of arms, which with a
(41:05):
clearly depicted lion and a unicorn undera crown, and the British coat of
arms at this time of state wasunder the protectorate type arrangement with the British
East India Company. Weird or werethey being protected from That's what I want
to probably themselves, you know,probably the British. Well, that may
be very very interesting piece. Yeah. That is very European style coat of
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arms and the Arabic on the onthe other side, all the way through
it. Yeah. Brian Bass.Brian Bass purchased this Indian head sent set
and a large collection all except foreighteen seventy seven and eighteen sixty nine,
over eight and the eighteenth and ofcourse the eighteen fifty six that's the Flying
(41:52):
Eagle. I have a lot ofwork to do on this one. Some
big coins going to PCGS. Seethe video before there you go. That's
a really nice set, very cool. It looks nice even color, which
is I think the hardest thing todo with with sense. Yep, yep,
(42:13):
those are difficult. We can kindof rattle through the video. I'm
gonna click a little further here.Yeah, it looks like some nice coins
in there. Very interesting Killers Rowgetting into the eighteen seventies. Yeah,
I like that. Yeah, eighteensixties and seventies. Man, that's Killer's
Row. That's what we call it. That's tough stuff. Yeah, anything
(42:35):
with any meat on it can bevery very expensive in a hurry. So
and then you get down into thelater stuff here. I'm gonna get down
to the juicy meat down here atthe bottom the eight and nine s.
Yeah, very cool. Looks likesome nice coins in there. Thank you,
Brian, thank you so much.Thank you. Amanda Broaderick posted a
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picture nothing else, but that's okay. You're perfectly welcome to do that.
And it is a Henting counterfeit nickelnineteen forty four. This is an interesting
story. I've always liked these,so, yeah, there was a gentleman
that just decided back during World Wartwo to make his own nickels, and
(43:15):
he did, and it's a veryinteresting story if you ever get a chance
to look it up. Henning Counterfeits. The guy made a whole bunch of
counterfeit nickels, and he forgot thelarge mint mark over the building and that's
how they were discovered. So veryvery so, he made them with several
(43:36):
different dates on them, yes,and the one that brought attention to him
was the forty four forty four yep, Because other than that, they were
pretty much indistinguishable, I mean detailwise and the way they look and easily
distinguishable once you know the tell,right, and the tell is in the
R of pluribis on the reverse,you'll see this whole and all the Henning
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Nichols forty four almost I have actuallyfound examples. They said that our heatings
that don't have that. Oh okay, well they almost all have this weird
misshapen bubble in the bottom leg ofthe R. So there you go,
okay. Eric Walton says, lastone needed for the book, and he
(44:21):
shows us a very nice one thingbefore we can you go back to the
last one? Sure? So,Paula Bloom says Amanda Cherry Pictus. Are
we talking about Amanda from I'm Sorryfrom Live Coin Q? And A,
Oh, yeah, that's who thatis. Yeah, that's exactly who that
is. I'll tell you what sheis. Quiet but very very knowledgeable.
(44:43):
Quiet but mighty yeah. I loveit. Eric Walton says, last one
needed for the book, and heshows us a very nice circulated but still
very nice nineteen twenty one d WalkingLiberty half dollar, which is the key
to eight for the series. Veryvery cool coin. Yeah, Clinton Ogle
says, waiting to get this backfrom the grading company. Love the color,
(45:07):
and he shows us the reverse ofa Carson City twenty cent piece and
the obverse is in eighteen seventy five, so in eighteen seventy five CC twenty
cent piece. I love twenty centpieces. They're one of my favorite coins,
just because they're just they've only madethem for like five years. They're
just so strange. They're strange littlecoins. They're very cool. Yes,
(45:27):
double dimes. Stephen Mayer says,pick this up this week. Just love
the history behind it, and heshows us a nineteen twenty five Lexington Commandment
in PCGS MS sixty three. Lookslike a nice white coin. Let's see
if we got a picture of theback. We do. Thank you,
nice white coin, very very pretty. Thank you for bringing it tonight.
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Absolutely. JR. Preston says,one of my favorite coins. Not a
great piece, but proud to ownit. I don't know if i'd say
it's not a great piece. Ithink it's a great piece. This is
the epitome of an everyman on nineSVDB. It's had the chef's kiss of
cac on it. It's this isa nice coin. Yep, he shows
(46:14):
us, I would be proud toown this coin. He shows us a
nineteen oh nine SVDB PC just AUfifty eight with a cacksticker. Thank you
so much. That's a cool coin. Up double dipper Double Dipper JR.
Preston also brings. He says,I'm currently doing consignment work for a friend,
uh, for a friend with sportscards and other collectibles. Came across
(46:35):
this bank note. Being from Pittsburghand Freeport is nearby, I had to
buy this and it is a nineteentwenty nine small sized national twenty dollars bill
from the Farmer's National Bank of Freeport, Pennsylvania. Awesome, thank you.
Oh it's nice to find those holdnationals. Yeah, that's right, Vance
Adkins says, added to my civilwar tokens. Oh, this is a
(46:57):
cool one. This is a patrioticIt says united, we stand, divided,
we fall, and we get tothe other side. Pulled up here.
Oh it's a it's an advertising piece. It says drugs, dry goods,
groceries, hardware, and notions.But it doesn't have the merchant's name
on it, so this might havebeen like a generally made piece where they
(47:17):
could have just you could have orderedthem and used them in your local area.
People would have just known that itwas you. So cool, very
cool. David Hollister says, reachit, purchase lovely Tone Boon. Love
the show. Matt always has thecoolest thing. This is my new favorite
listener right here. David Hollister,thank you, and he shows us a
(47:42):
nineteen thirty six dy Boon in anMS sixty four white label in GC holder
with a cash sticker. Also lookslike a very nice coin. A little
bit of peripheral toning that looks likea first gen holder. No, it's
the white label. It's like JENtwo. I think, Okay, same
(48:02):
thing. Yeah, really early itwas what I was getting at. Yeah,
but the coins in there, thatcoin is a monster, is a
luster bomb. You can just seeit from here. Very very cool.
Group expert Jack Young says, afriend sent me images of this seventeen ninety
nine. As I reviewed them,I realized they match one documented in a
counterfeit attaction summary by the ANA fromnineteen seventy seven to nineteen eighty two.
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Articles of the Numesmetist Counterfeit seventeen ninetynine dollars starts on page ninety three of
the collective summary. After discussion,he sent it to me to add to
my collection. For a previous CoinWeek article, I stated about another example.
Although the subject example displays the characteristicsof a genuine die state three coin
with class marks all over the dateon the reverse, the obvious mark in
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R is not a die state ofa genuine Bowlander one p. Fifty eight
and his article can be found here. But guys, this coin right here
is counterfeit. And I know thatmight blow your mind because it looks really
good, But it is a counterfeit. That's an insanely good common and it's
an old counterfeit. These have beenaround for a long time. This is
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one of the scary ones. Butthe way you can tell on this coin,
there's a tell believe it or not. This particular die For some reason,
there was this little hole in theR in Liberty. So if you
ever see a seventeen ninety nine busdollar and right in the center of the
R there you see this little bittyhole, that coin is actually a known
(49:35):
counterfeit. They do exist, Theyare out there. I have seen them
before. Obviously Jack here has hasshown us one. So there you go.
If you're ever in that market,and I see, yep, you
see that little hole in the rThat is an old counterfeit and a very
very good one. See Carl Carbone, friend of the show, says,
(49:58):
this week I got my first exampleof Chinese joss paper. A JFK Hell
bank note is very good condition andan interesting piece of eggs on me a
paper. Do you know the storybehind these? No? So the way
I understand, in the way thatit was explained to me, is in
Chinese culture, when you die andyou go on to the afterlife, you
(50:21):
actually need money in the afterlife.So these are actually notes that were made
to be given as offerings to thedead to be taken into the afterlife.
There you go. So that's whythey're hell banknotes or were they making a
statement about JFK. I don't know. I just know that that was a
story as it was explained to me. That's what a hell bank note is.
(50:44):
It's meant to be used as anoffering into the afterlife. That's what
I know. So there you go. I always thought you couldn't take here
with you, that's right. Well, apparently in China you can. And
Mike last but not Le says,an interesting find in my daughter's change jar.
He shows us in nineteen ninety sevenslash nineteen ninety eight Washington Quarter.
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It looks like it's a double headedmagician's coin, but awesome to find in
change Those are always fun They soundfunky when you drop them. That was
your coolest thing, you guys rock, thank you so much. And for
that, we thank you, andfor that, we thank you. And
I'm going to take a drink now, go ahead. You've been talking a
(51:29):
lot. I want to. Iwanted to concentrate on the chat for a
couple of minutes. It's like Isaw that Adam from coins and Goals from
the other one of the other contributorsto coin live coin Q and A Awes
is here step in. Thank you, Adam. I'd like you to be
(51:51):
at the hangout this Saturday, ifyou'd like to be there, If you
can, we email me week fromtoday. Mike says, you're invited.
Yeah, so send me an emailat Mike end at HJB ltd dot com.
Wow, you're going to get somuch spam email now from all the
people to listen to the show.Okay, everybody said an email right now.
This is high Mike, just thereyou go. Uh. I also
(52:15):
wanted to comment to Jack Young hehad a question about uh about the whole
charity thing, because I want totell you that Jack was the only donor
Jack charity. Jack is amazing andJack did it without questioning it. As
a matter of fact, Jack tookthe contest which was, Hey, look,
all I want is a pledge,and whoever gets the highest pledge is
(52:37):
going to get it. Jack waslike, you know what I donated,
so whatever, and so he isdefinitely going to uh, he is definitely
going to be number one in thatin that club. He's number one in
my heart for a long time.Oh yeah, thanks so Corey being a
(52:58):
smart alec in the bag, areyou read date your Yeah, it's coming.
It's on the way, friend,it's on the way. Well that
my friend is two thirty one inthe bag. Yes, we've had a
lot of awesome people hanging out withus tonight. We had a pretty good
crowd. I'm enjoying hanging out withyou tonight as pretty usual. I know,
(53:20):
I know, I like hanging outwith the listeners. I like reading
the uh, I like reading thechat. The chat's getting more lively.
Yeah, and uh, definitely gettingbetter. Yeah, I agree. Today
I learned what did you learn today? Well, I mean about the hell
notes. Oh yeah, and Iactually saw Carl said they actually burned them
as an offering. I remember thatnow, Yeah, he said, so
(53:44):
that makes more sense. Yeah,yeah, you're gonna burn them so that
they can go with them into theafternife and you can have luscious parties with
your money. All right, Sochat while you're here and before everybody splits.
We know who Paula wants to winthe super Bowl? But who you
got in the super Bowl? Ye, Paula says, the Niners. I
(54:07):
think Mike is a hardcore swifty sohe's going with the with the Chiefs.
Shake it off, Shake it off. So you want to you want to
have a I'm gonna go with theNiners too. Who do you think is
gonna win? I don't have adog in the fight, so to me,
it really doesn't matter. So ifyou want for me to be myself,
(54:30):
I'll say that the only thing Icould possibly clamp onto with this is
that my sister is a Chiefs fan, and so just to kind of aggravate
her, I would go Niners.You know what I'm here for the commercials,
just saying, yes, I thinkthe commercials are the better part of
the Super Bowl. Also, what'sthe what's the over under? On how
(54:52):
many times they show Taylor Swift onTV? I wonder what it is?
I bet that's bet that is.But I will guarantee you that that is
a prop bet. Oh, Iknow it is. I'm gonna say five
over under five? What do youthink? Oh, it's gonna be way
over the Okay, hammer the over, it is what he's saying, everybody,
hammer the over on that coin toss? Will it be heads or tails?
(55:14):
Sales never fails, Tales never fails, sales never fails. All right,
well, friend, let's get outof here. You got I'm going
to go fall asleep, I thinkbecause I'm exhausted. But I do love
hanging out with you guys. COVIDWarrior. Yeah I know, right,
I know. All right, Well, thank you to everybody who came,
(55:35):
thank you to everybody who participated,and most of all, thank you to
everybody who supports and listens to thispodcast. Without you guys, this just
wouldn't happen. Right. For thecoin show, I'm Matt, I'm Mike,
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Here's Matt Dinger and Mike Noteleman onthe Coin Show Podcast. It is episode
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two thirty one of the Coin ShowPodcast. Yes, it rolls on.
I'm Mike, I'm Matt. Helloeveryone, And tonight on the Coin Show
Podcast, we have the auditorial thatI had to give us last week.
I just got a little tied upand stuff, and we have your coolest
thing mm hm, as well asother fund and frivolity. Oh I like
(00:52):
yes. But first, as always, the news that news did he always
gets my head moving. It's agood one. It's a good one.
(01:14):
The news is brought to us bystreet signs. Sometimes all you need is
a sign and we're there for you. We're street signs. I like it.
Well, yeah, that's that's that'swho we're brought to this week.
So one of the things that Ilook forward to every year is seeing the
new data on coins has been focusedon, you know, seeing the new
(01:36):
designs for the first time. Soyou know, you have the Native American
dollars, you have the new quarters, you have, you know, just
a new data on the old familiarcoins like your set and stuff like that.
But because of the innovative or becauseof the new quarters, you probably
see those first. I have.You have to see a twenty twenty four
(01:56):
anything yet. But I also haven'treally been looking that much. So well,
the only reason I can claim thatI have is because we have a
subscription to the Women on Quarters.Oh okay, well that makes sense.
We get rolls of them in theshop. And so I have the Reverend
Doctor Polly Berry. Uh, that'sthe first one for this year. And
it's a really cool coin. It'sgot you know, a hope on the
(02:21):
obverse, and like I really dolike the idea of hope in coins.
Yeah, no, I mean Ithink it's an interesting design. It's definitely
something we haven't seen before h inour coinage something like this, So that's
pretty cool. I'll be interested tosee one and hand again to see how
the picture translates to an actual coin. But looks interesting. Yeah. The
(02:44):
Royal mint us Mint joint coin ventureis launching here and sold out there,
did it? It sold out inthe in across the pond. Well,
I mean a lot of a lotof of their issues, and they made
a lot for this, had reallysmall mintages on them. Ye five hundred,
two hundred, you know, stufflike that. So there is actually
(03:06):
a set, a gold set thathas a quarterouns Britannia, a quarter ounce
gold eagle, and a quarter ounceversion of the British coin. Okay really,
and that was put out by them, That was put up by the
royal men, okay, And therewere only like two hundred and fifty sets.
Well, I mean that's okay,that's they they I think that they
(03:29):
do a little bit better job oflimiting some of the releases that they do,
because I mean, obviously Great Britainis not nearly as large of a
country as we are, of course, but you know, I think two
hundred and fifty any of any setlike that is actually a very very small
number. So I don't know ifthis was a take on the Protaton Nation
(03:49):
set, you know, trying todo something with written, right, are
you? Okay? But if itwas an economist the mark, I mean,
the Protaton Nations set had two coinsthat were exclusively made for the set
by by the United States mean andby the Canadian men. This one has
(04:11):
the same thing, but the designsare so the it's hard to say which
is the opverse of this coin becauseyou know, but the side with the
two heads on it is common toboth the US coin and the UK coin,
with some exceptions. Yea, yeah, it's just a little bit different,
(04:36):
but but basically the same. Itgives you know, the weight and
things like that on the British coin, and of course has Britannia at the
top and Liberty at the bottom,and they only had one side of the
coin to work with because of courseyou have Charles on the other side.
Correct, And I think it's interestingin the story anywhere with the with the
(04:58):
British cord. It's actually hard tofind a I don't know, I was
gonna say, I want to seehim next to each other, like like
literally next to each other, notnecessarily in the set, but maybe just
the images next to each other before. Yeah, basically the Britannia says Britannia
and Liberty and then it has youknow, I think one ounce fine,
nine nine gold and twenty twenty four. Okay, so I mean they're just
(05:24):
slightly different coins. Well, let'ssee, the South African krugarand has become
so successful that they're going to makeproofs. I mean, that'd be cool.
They You know, the the silverKruegrand is a fairly new thing.
For years and years, the goldkrue Grand was kind of like one of
the main stays of gold billion.So when they came out with the silver
ones, I thought, yeah,that was a cool idea. Well mainstays.
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The Kruegrand was the only gold cointhat you could buy in the world
for a long time, right,And I think was it twenty seventeen or
so, they popped out the silverones and those were super popular, and
well they did it. They dida limited and I still think it's approve.
The first one yeah too, Andthey made that for the fiftieth anniversary
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of the krugar in so it wastwenty seventeen, and so they put those
out and they were popular and peoplehave liked them, and I guess they
figured out that this whole seniorach thingis kind of cool too. It's funny.
Yeah, So now they're they're goingto make a proof of it.
I mean, I don't know ifthey're they're successful enough to do that,
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but I definitely wouldn't make you know, I don't know. I think that
silver proofs are silverproofs, but whatyou have to charge for them on the
world market is I think gonna killthis guy, That's true. I kind
of want to see like a bullionversion, like a couple of dollars over
spot type, you know, example, would be interesting. It's kind of
how we treat the other ones.Well, that's what I'm saying, Like,
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I want to see some that arespecifically like you can buy rolls of
them, and I don't know,just the thought to cross my mind.
And the latest in money grab news, so the New Zealand Mint and New
Ways latest silver coin takes the shapeof the USS Enterprise, which you know,
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hey, if you're gonna, ifyou want to hit, you can
reach into the bag and pull outyou know, Star Trek, Star Trek,
Star Wars, Star Wars, Lordof the Rings Disney Disney or I
want to say Sesame Street, butactually probably not because I don't know.
There's been much. No Big Bird'sBig Bird's done. Oh he's done.
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He got caught in a sting andruined his whole career. Look, Kermon,
first you told me Kerman's dead.That's true. That's time anyway.
It's encouraging kids to live in atrash can. That's Oscar the crash.
Though some some times that might bea better environment, that's true. Do
you remember when in Publishing was boughtby Gray Sheet. I do. I
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had some worries that this might happen, because often when you know, a
new company takes over, there's changeat the top. And with Whitman,
we had our friend of the CoinShow, Dennis Tucker, who was the
publisher, and you know, Imean it was just a tremendous friend of
our show as well as a friendof ours personally. And so he is
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now stepping down. They're calling itretiring. I think he wants to go
sit on a beach and drink drinkdrinks with if I know Denis, That's
not what he's going to do though. He's going to write. He's going
to continue to do what he doesand just be you know, a great
dad, you know, and justa wonderful human being and a writer,
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because that's what he is at thecore of everything. And so I don't
think that he's going to disappear fromthe hobby at least I hope not.
I think that would be a lossto the hobby. Yeah, I agree
completely, yes, But anyways,congratulations Dennis on congratulations retirement. I'm said
for myself more than anything else.Well, we'll have to see who the
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new publisher for Whitman is and becomefriends with him. Maybe it'll be Figenbaum.
Cool. Yeah, you never know. You never know. So if
you don't follow the coin week blog, you should. I mean from an
educational standpoint, right, I foundfour articles this week that have not so
much news but interesting educational content ina time when news is kind of a
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bit slow. It's February. Youknow, we're in between the big international
show, the International Money Show andUS Money Show. Yep, it's coud
be in Colorado, so you know, there's just not a lot going on,
and Coinweek gives us, you know, stories like this. So we
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have mottos on our currency that arenot mandated and we'd originally included, but
serve, I'm gonna take my chanceof my bully pulpit and I'm gonna say
they basically serve as propaganda to thisday. Okay, well they do.
I mean, look, that's whatit was for. That's what it is.
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It is saying that we're better thanother people when we use these mottos
or that were guided by providence orGod or whatever. And it's a lovely
thought. So this is the firstbill where things first appeared, you know,
where this model was first used.And a lot of people don't realize
that makes sense. In God isour trust And these were made right around
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the time of the Quintajack of eighteensixty four, which was when the two
cent piece you know, was debutedwith him got to be trusted. And
this is a stupid rare note.These are twenty dollars interest bearing notes very
very best compound interest trugery note,very very rare notes super cool. By
the way, look at look atit can go to the next one.
You'll see this one has the secondthe second motto that was included on it.
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I guess I didn't get that one. I'm sorry, my fault.
Oh okay, I'm sorry. Butanyway, so at the bottom, at
the bottom right, they twitched itover to in God we trust. No,
no, no, it's in Godour trust. And then hold on
a second, because I'll tell youwhat the other one is. I think
it is in God we trust onthe new motto. See oh it says
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God and our right, Oh Godon the left hand side, God and
our right on this same note.So this was put up by coin coin
Week in two separate articles. ButI think it's really cool that they take
their time, you know, todo the same thing that we do and
educate people, because you know,one is on the left hand side and
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the other one is on the righthand side, so on the left is
yeah, there you go, right, Very cool, very very interesting.
Yeah, though, this is agreat website. If you guys don't use
it, these guys are awesome.Coin Week. You guys should check that
blog out and get a lot ofinformation. Lord knows they we talk about
a lot of their stories, sowe do, and we give them full
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credit. Yes we show this nextarticle is on pattern coins and it covers
you know, a lot it covers. Well, it was five or ten
different pattern coins that are in theSmithsonian collection. So it has the fifty
dollars Union, which may be acoin that some people may not have ever
known existed. Yeah. They thewhole gold coinage series was meant to go
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up to a fifty dollars coin.We just never never got to that point.
They stopped at twenty. Barely gotthere. Yeah, we barely got
to twenty. But yeah, theywere actually intending to go to fifty,
but they just they made the patterns, they had the design, they were
ready to rock. They just didn'tget to it. So yeah, So
the first one they showed was,you know, the addition of in we
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trust to the five dollars gold.And the last one they issued is that
they show is the the buffalo nickelpattern. But in between that, the
one just above it is a halfdollar pattern. Yike, spikes. That
thing's busy. Yeah, there's alot going on. That's basically they took
everything that we've ever had on acoin ever and smashed it into one coin.
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It's like, hey, thing isthat I always give Barbara a lot
of credit for being you know,this this artisan that created these things that
strike so well and are good fordie life. And can you imagine if
they used this thing, they'd havebeen going through dies like nothing. Well,
like I said, I think it'sliterally they wanted to incorporate every single
thing that's ever been on a UScoin into one coin because If you look
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at this coin, you have ayou have an eagle, then you have
liberty, then you have a fG and cap. Then you have stars,
then you have rays. Then youhave in God we trust, and
then you flip it off. Right, that's just the obverse, and there's
liberty on the front too, don'tforget that, I said. But then
you flip it over. On theback, you have rays. You have
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a heraldery style eagle. You havea laurel wreath. You have a laurel
wreath, you have that's that mightbe you got the original heraldic eagle with
the stars and the clouds and therays. Again, you've got the ball
at the bottom. Yeah, it'sliterally pretty much every design element ever on
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one coin. It's pretty cool,really, It's kind of cool. But
I think it'd be a nightmare tostrike, oh for sure. But yes,
yes. And lastly, a guidefor chain Sense. So there were
other denominations and coins as well,but you should go and check this site
out for yourself. So I particularlyreally like this chain cent collector's guide.
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It shows the different varieties and thedifferent dates when they delivered them. And
yeah, I mean this is nerdingout, Yes, This is a completely
nerd out article, and God blessthem for publishing stuff like this. This
is the kind of stuff that youneed to look at. Well, if
you're a chaincent collector, for sure, I mean that's you get into the
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different. I'm not a collector andI'm turning out on stuff big time.
Well that's okay, you can turnout anyway you want, Buddy Yep.
As a full service coin show,we are not confined by any constraints and
as such, I felt that thisinteresting article on women found on ancient coins
was really great. Okay, Ilike it. So these are some of
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some of the lesser known. Theone that I expected to be in here
that is not was Cleopatrick. Cleopatrick, well, she wasn't really attractive on
her coins. You ever see oneof her coins? Yes, she kind
of looked like, well, youknow, there's a lot of talk that
that might have been fitting. ButI mean, you got so aphrodity isn't
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even real, right, I mean, there's just there's there's a bunch on.
But this kind of goes through.You know, we have the women
on quarters right now, here's womenin ancient coins and all the different ways
that they're because typically in ancient coins, they're mostly emperors that around them.
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Yeah, especially the wives of emperors. Like that's what this last kind of
group here was was wives of emperors. But then yeah, there's definitely some
some allegorical women too, like Arethusaand and ices. Yeah, so not
that Ices, the other Yeah,yeah, the original the og And then
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as kind of a wrap up,and I'm gonna stop blowing Coin Week's horn.
But they also published a really greatbuyer beware article on unsearched roles.
I love this because the fact ofthe matter is is that you hear this
term a lot, right, andbecause there's such a quote loose definition of
it, a lot of people canmean a lot of different things, and
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that's not good for me. Wecan't. We get a lot of people
coming into the office sometimes and theywant to like they want to buy wheat
pennies, Like they want to buya five thousand coin bag of wheat pennies.
And they one of the questions theyalways ask us, are these unsearched?
Well, friend, I don't havetime to go through them. So
unsearched you mean, did I gothrough them? No? I didn't,
because I don't have time for that, but somebody probably did so. Well,
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somebody had to them because they're allwheat pennies, right right. So
that's kind of the thing that againstme about it is is are they searched?
Well, it really depends on whatyour definition of search is. It's
like, were they categorized into wheatscents at least that much? I know?
Beyond that, I don't know whatanybody who might have looked for them
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was looking. My standard answer isunsearched by us. Yes, yeah,
I mean it's unsearched by me.Are you gonna find knowing that SVDB in
there? Probably not? Probably not, but I'm not either. Yeah.
Yeah, I think that it's it'sreally important to call these things out and
define them and tell everybody, hey, you know, no, this this
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if we need to, you know, have a definition for it in our
hobby, then we need to havea definition for it. But that's that's
what we should do. Yeah,there you go, And finally in the
news, this is all that story. God, I hate this story.
We have been preaching about this forhow long now? Yes, I like
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the fact that somebody's finally called thisout, But I have found absolutely nothing.
I mean, I've been looking forstuff on this on the internet and
not finding it, and yet peoplestill ask about them. There's a there's
a running joke with us and withJack Smith about finding coins with full drum
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lines. That's pretty good. Ilike that. Now. It's like,
do you know what a drum lineis? Right? Sure? What is
it? Well? Drum line wouldis a group of people to get together
in drum, like in a band. But I think on this coin you're
probably talking about a bunch of peopledoing it in March. I think on
this coin you're talking about the actualdrum line on the coin. Well,
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but the whole thing is it's notthe high point on the coin, and
it's near the edge. So itwill absolutely be one of the things that
you should expect to be absolutely fulland crisp on any coin, because the
metal had to flow through there toget to it. Right. But this
story is talking about really basically stuffthat we've been talking about for years,
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which is just terribly written and orai written articles that will insinuate that certain
common, very very common coins areworth millions or in this case, the
article says hundreds of millions of dollarsand the coins themselves aren't. The typical
question that we get about it though, is that, well, why do
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they publish this? Well, theypublish it because they want you to click
on it, right, and guesswhat they got what they wanted? Yeah,
yeah, but I mean what citieslike on our feeds? You know,
all these stories have these little adsover on the side, which is
fine. You know, this isa coin website, I get it.
But there are other websites out therethat put out these sensational news stories and
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then make money when you see thoseads on the right hand side. So
that's what they're doing. If theycan put out some stupid story that doesn't
make any sense but can cause alot of people to click on it,
guess what, they make a lotof money. So it doesn't really matter
what they write. It just mattersthat the fact that they get people to
come to their website and view thoseads, and that's the skinny of it.
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So that's where all this is comingfrom. They're putting out sensational titles
to their stories. It's called clickbait. It's garbage. And that's all I
have to say about that. Thisis what you need to do about it,
is that when you see something thatyou've clicked on and that you've become
disappointed with, you know what itoffered you, Right, you need to
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make note and just note you knowwhat side it came from, who the
author was, whatever. And there'salso a lot of new apps out there
that are also just absolutely horrible.Like I posted a video I forget where
it was not too long ago,of an app that was like it scanned
a nineteen seventy eight penny and saidit was worth three hundred and fifty dollars
when it looked like it was anau nineteen seventy eight penny that you could
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stick in your pocket change. It'sjust there's a lot of people out there
trying to make money on our hobbythat have nothing to do with our hobby
and know nothing about our hobby andare giving out terrible information. So so
with like the Daniel Carr fakes,right, they're not fakes. There is
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there's a kind of karma that followsthose, right that when somebody tries to
do something on scrupulous with them,when somebody thinks they're getting something that they're
not and they think they're stealing itfrom somebody, that they kind of get
their come up. It's when theyfigure out what it is. And I'm
okay with that, right, Butthese other guys they're feeding on They're feeding
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on the newbies, they're feeding onthe lazy, which I don't have any
problem with that, you know,because it's like that's their education. They're
going to learn one way or theother, and they usually learn the hard
way, and they're they're preying onpeople that just you know, have no
other source of information. So anyways, so my point was and said,
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you make note of them, andyou know, you don't really say anything
about it until you've seen it acouple of different times. And now when
you've seen it repeated over and over, this is when you tell your friends,
hey, look, you know thisplace they do this, this place
they do this. Watch out forthese ads, you know, and just
don't click on them, and eventuallythey do go away. I just think
the majority of the people that consumethat content and are not educated enough in
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the coins themselves to figure out thatthey're being fed bad information. Well,
they're typically not collectors either, no, never, So honestly, they're not
hurting our hobby by not hanging around. But at the same time, we
really just don't like that kind ofmessage. I see it as a very
large time suck and resource suck forplaces like us that have to answer those
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phone calls. And and I canagree with that one hundred percent. So
it does affect me personally, butyeah, for the most part, it
doesn't affect most people. Right,affects me too, yeah for sure.
All right, Well that was right. That was the news. That was
fun news, Thank you. Andthe news tonight was brought to us by
street sign. Sometimes all you needis a sign we're there for you.
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We're street signs. I like that. So, friend, dude, if
I can't make you laugh, thenyou you're great at it. So that's
all that matters. Thanks, Oh, big, warm and fuzzy. So
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I think maybe it's a good timefor me to get into my editorial is
editorial or just kind of is,but it's kind of not. I really
don't want it to be that becauseI don't think that it's deserving of that.
But at the same time, Ireally do kind of mean some of
it. About about a three monthsago, two and a half months ago,
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I suggested the idea of starting acoin club online with people, and
you know, there was a reallygood response. A lot of people replied
said, hey, I'd really liketo do that. That's great, And
all I told him was, Okay, this is what I need you to
do. We're going to use thisspecific forum to just kind of meet to
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start out, and I need shouldjust sign up over there. And you
know, I'm not. Maybe theythink I'm capitalizing on it. I'm not.
But it's like, you know,it's a clean forum that everybody can
get into and I know is goingto be You're going to see it all
and all that kind of stuff,and there we can kind of work on
this club and we can kind ofget it started. And of all the
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people, and I mean literally allthe people, I you know, said
to people, hey, look,what do you think we should do as
far as leadership. Should we havea council? Should we have one person?
Should we have a president a vicepresident? You know, how do
you guys want to do it?Nothing? No reply. And here's the
thing I don't expect, like forit to be you know, fifty million
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answers back then, but there wasnot a one. And it's like this,
I think is what drives people awayfrom coin clubs is lack of participation
by the members of Everybody wants tosit back and be undertained and that's great,
but somebody at some point has todo a little bit of the lifting.
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And so that's kind of what Ifound and was really disappointed in,
was that. So we started outwith this with a couple of really great
ideas. We started out with acharity event, and we got we got
somebody to buy into the charity event. Automatically, first thing boom. It
was taken care of. And thatwas the only thing that the Coin Club
ever ever accomplished. And if that'sall it ever did, I'm proud of
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it. It did something great.But at the same time, you know,
I mean just something as simple asHey, the fact of the matter
is I got way too much onmy plate to run and collaborate and do
all the stuff that it takes torun a club like that. What I
was trying to do is put abunch of people together so that we could
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get together and we could have somethingthat's worthwhile and is worth you know,
doing right, And that's kind ofwhat it's all about. So if you
didn't understand when I said, hey, let's go over to my collect get
your you know, all I wantyou to do is send me an email,
tell me what your username there is, and that way I know that
the usernames I'm improving to get intoour group are real people, and there's
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no bots in there, there's nonothing else. It's all real people.
We can just talk about the cluband what we want to do and how
we want to start it, andlook, this opportunity is still there,
you know, it hasn't been toolong. So we've got like there were
at least one hundred people that repliedand came back and it's like, okay,
so forty seven of them migrated overto my collect and that's great,
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But of those forty seven, noactivity well and something there is that old
saying that that you can lead ahorse to water, but you can't make
it drink my friend. And sometimesthat's just the way things go. You
know, no what I get it, But it's like, look, this
is my please. If you ifyou really want this club, then it's
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the people that are going to makethe club. It's the members that are
going to make this club. It'snot it's not an extension of this show.
It is not me standing up andentertaining people. Or you know,
pontificating about stuff. I want toparticipate in a regular, normal club like
everybody else does. Well, maybewe give it a reboot, except maybe
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over on a different platform. Maybewe we go here where you know,
a lot of people are and alot of people seem to be, and
maybe that's the way to do it. Maybe maybe there's a better forum for
us to do that. I youknow, I think it's great. You
know, I'm I'm always happy toI want to be inclusive, not exclusive,
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sure so, but but I alsoI really want people that want something
out of a club, right.They want to share, and they want
to they want to learn and andthat. So that's it. I'll put
away my soapbox and that'll be that. Okay, Well that was okay.
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I like that. There's not nospicy mic in there. There was just
a little disappointed minds. It couldhave been it could have been so bad.
No, but it wasn't. Itwas good. You were good,
You were good. Well you wantto check out everybody's coolest thing. I
know, it was kind of lastminute, and I kind of dropped it
on you guys cuz I'm not gonnalie. I got real busy this week.
(29:30):
Totally forgot about it, but youguys brought it and brought us some
really cool stuff at the last minutetoo. I know. I gave you
guys like I gave you guys likeeight hours notice, and you guys brought
us some cool stuff. So let'scheck this out. You guys, this
is your coolest thing. I'm justgonna jump right into it. If you're
okay with that, I meet,Sure, they're in order, absolutely,
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But I do want to comment onone thing that came up in the chat
chat from Mike, and it's ourvery own Justin. Irvin, go ahead,
and he says that he finds itmore that people want to feel valued,
not that they don't want to work. It's a valid point, Justin.
Yeah, that's a valid point thatpeople want to feel valued. But
at the same time, I that'smaybe you can explain to me how how
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I can make that better. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Maybe we can get together and figureit out as a team. Sure,
okay, your coolest thing. Youguys are awesome. Thank you so
much again for sharing all your stuffon short notice. We got forty four
comments in a couple hours, soyou guys are awesome. First we have,
Joshua Wright said, took me ayear to save up for this,
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but totally worth it, and heshows us a nineteen twenty two Saint Gaudin's
twenty dollar gold piece in n GCMssixty three. One of my favorite coins
of all time. Absolutely beautiful coin. I love it. I really like
this new studio because it gives usthe ability to zoom in on the coin
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like you just did. Yeah,and Joshua, right, double dipper,
double dipper. We're calling a doubledipper already. That's okay though, He
says, also got this really coollarge sized note, large sized note,
first and only one I've owned,and he shows us a nineteen twenty three
Series one dollar silver certificate. Veryvery cool. Thank you see here,
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Travis Wolf says on thin planchet,I believe can't seem to find any info
on this. Unfortunately, my friendand as our friend Paula pointed out,
it has been removed from an encasement. So if you guys don't know what
an encase coin is, I'm tryingto well, I usually have something like
that laying around, But basically it'sa coin that was put in a good
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luck piece a larger piece was aroundthe outside of it, and then that
would have some information on it likekeep me and you'll never go broke,
lucky penny, something like that,And that's exactly what happened to this coin,
and then it was popped out,So that's what caused that mark around
the outside of the coin here.As you see, I'm guessing Paula is
one hundred percent correct on that one. Then he posts another coin. Both
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sides have the exact same marks.Yes, unfortunately, again, my friend,
that is also a damaged coin,and I'm sure Paula yep pointed that
out. So there you go.Keep looking, though, go check out
those guys over there at live cooinQ and ay they will educate you on
mint ariage varieties. Those guys areawesome at that. Yeah, so they
are really really good at it.Yep. George Cabrook shows us an eighteen
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ninety nine V. Nickel, verybright, very very nice. Thank you
up. Next, Jack Riley says, pick up my very first black Eagle
note FR two thirty two and VFtwenty five. I particularly like this one
because Gabe Parker was the Register ofthe Treasury for a mere two months I
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thought that was neat. Yep,there you go. Very good. Though.
The thing to understand and about thatis they often will print a note
for far longer than the person isin office, correct, till the replacement.
Yeah, till the replacement comes alongand sticks with a job for a
little while. Then they usually willwe'll change the place and make new notes.
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And I want to comment on thiscomment. Oh yeah, James Emmons
says, no fakeerrors. Guys,let's not even entertain that joke. I'll
tell you what it's like. Ilike the fact that we can look at
it and we can learn from it, and we can teach somebody, Hey,
look, this is what this is. Yeah, they think it's the
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coolest thing that apparently they don't know, and that's going to be our opportunity
to help them more. Yeah,that's right. That's time for education,
and that's what we're all about.So if we can help you understand what
you have and educate you on itand help you, then that's what we're
all about. So there you go. Let's see here. Bob Brock says,
I have this one coming very soon, not in hand yet, but
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close, King of Morgan's. Thatmeans it's an eighteen ninety three s Morgan
silver dollar. This one has beengraded VG eight by n GC, and
it has a little bitty green catsticker, which means it's also been CIC
approved. And it does look likea very nice example. Yes, looks
like just a very honest, reallygood circulated example. Yeah, even where
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even color, no problems. Ilike it. Yeah, very desirable.
Jack Rowe says, can I doubleit this time? Yes? You may?
Is that a double? Thank you? Sir? May please have another?
I was gonna say I thought thatwas the feller from up above us
and said that was a triple dip. But no, let's see here.
Couldn't leave this out. Found atwo thousand and four piece metal d do
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fs one oh one found role huntingsure has seen better days, but and
it was hard to verify. Ps. Sorry for my picture quality. Well
that's okay. And these interesting varietiesdefinitely are fun to look for. I
know, I used to do itfor a long long time. So awesome,
guays you found that there was thesecond picture was there? And yeah
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they don't have it? Oh,okay, I guess not. Ernesto Aguilar
says, my first purchase of thefirst spouse series. Is that a Jackie
O Nasis? I think it is. It's hard to see from your picture
that Arnesta, but that sure lookslike Jackie O. It's one of the
better lowmentage issues. I remember whatwere talking about these before they first came
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out, thinking about how they weregoing to be sleepers, and then they
just absolutely flopped and nobody cares abouthim anymore. Yeah, eh, well
we do they care about us?That there half on some pure gold.
Yeah we tried, guys, wetried. Can't can't win them all,
can't polish and turn. That's rightJobohannon says, pick this up this morning
in a show a U fifty fivecac and he shows us and oh,
(35:52):
that's pretty an eighteen thirty four capbus half with some really really pretty toning
on the reapers and it's in aPCGS holder as we can see here by
the true view. Uh. Andhe says it's an AU fifty five cac,
very very cool and in our uhin our chat a good super Bowl
tip, saying double dipping is okay, just not with chips and dip Ooh,
(36:15):
that's true. Super Bowl tomorrow.Who's gonna win this Super Bowl?
Weekend span the chat with who's gonnawin? You guys, You guys decide
for us. I want to know. I haven't. I haven't made my
bet yet, so I need toAh Mark says, high grade but unslabbed
eighteen fifty eight flying eagle cent witha clip at three o'clock. That is
(36:37):
exactly what that is, a highgrade flying eagle cent with a clip at
three o'clock. And here is thething to note about this is that if
you look directly opposite the clip,you'll see a little bit of issue on
the rim. And that is exactlywhat you should see on it. How
you know it's a real clip.It's called the the blake see effect.
Yeah, very cool. Dennis Mendozasays, very tough coin, and he
(37:02):
shows us an eighteen fifty seven ohten dollar gold piece in pcgs AU fifty
three. Again, Dan is comingwith the awesome early oment gold. I
love it. Very cool coin,pre Civil War gold. It's awesome anyway,
I do. I like it.I really like it. Yeah,
and not to put that to shame. Paul Price says, eighteen fifty eight
(37:23):
C five dollar gold piece birthday giftto myself. I like it very cool.
Looks like a nice coin. Tothe pcgs AU fifty three holder.
I like that coin, I reallylike it. I will tell you that
I've seen way more two and ahalf from Charlotte than five. Well,
(37:44):
that's actually a really nicely struck onefor a Charlotte piece. Most of those
Charlotte Charlotte piece it's a hammered Yeah, Charlotte Delomica coins are not struck very
well. And look at the star. Yeah, that's a nice looking coin,
very very cool. Is there apicture of the back? No,
that's okay, that's okay. MikeEdwards says, putting together a set of
(38:05):
NGC slabs circulating coins from Great Britainat the time of my birth nineteen sixty.
These are not yet slabs. Ipicked them up a little while ago
because I thought they were attractive tolook at. The farthing was out of
production in nineteen sixty and they alsodidn't mint any large pennies during that year,
so these are dates closest I couldget. So he shows us a
nineteen fifty three to one penny,very cool, nice looking uncirculated coin,
(38:30):
nice strike. Yeah, and thenshows us down here in nineteen fifty six
or one farthing? Very cool,a whole farthing. Oh, Cody brought
some paper money to the show.I like it, he says. One
of three reported notes on the charter, the finest reported, which apparently is
(38:53):
this not and the first to comeout in over fifty years. If you've
been to the Higgins use the dthere's high chance you have seen you have
never seen a note from this charter. Wow. So he shows us Cody
I know very well he is anIowa national note collector. So he that's
a beautiful note. He has alot of nationals and is a very He's
(39:16):
a connoisseur of fine Iowa nationals.He shows us a five dollars original series
Lisbon Iowa note in a PCGS finefifteen details holder. Very very cool.
I like that note too. Ithas Christopher Columbus on one side. Did
you know that Christopher Columbus was actuallyon our paper money? There you go,
(39:37):
So now he was on paper andon yep, yes he was.
And let's see here, Jody Dotsonsays, pick us up at the Hot
Springs, Arkansas coin show. Itis my first Celtic coin. Very cool.
This is a little Celtic stater theseare cool pieces that they kind of
(39:59):
they k to sort of show ahorse. They did at the beginning you
could pretty much pick out the horse, and then over time they just kind
of devolved into a bunch of symbolsthat were kind of supposed to look like
a horse, which in the slabyou can actually see it says reverse disjointed
horse. So they kind of overtimethey just kind of that's the worst,
(40:20):
kind kind of pooped out. GeorgeMiller's up Next has recently picked up a
really nice nineteen thirty one floor,and I agree with you. That looks
like a really nice nineteen thirty oneone floor. Thanks George. Longtime friend
Malcolm mcgauthe Yeah, Malcolm McGaugh says, this is a rupee from the Princely
(40:45):
States of a Wadha awad aw Adhd. I'm just just spelling it so people
can understand what I'm trying to say. From around eighteen twenty one, it's
unusual when the obverse tries to emulateEuropean coat of arms, which with a
(41:05):
clearly depicted lion and a unicorn undera crown, and the British coat of
arms at this time of state wasunder the protectorate type arrangement with the British
East India Company. Weird or werethey being protected from That's what I want
to probably themselves, you know,probably the British. Well, that may
be very very interesting piece. Yeah. That is very European style coat of
(41:30):
arms and the Arabic on the onthe other side, all the way through
it. Yeah. Brian Bass.Brian Bass purchased this Indian head sent set
and a large collection all except foreighteen seventy seven and eighteen sixty nine,
over eight and the eighteenth and ofcourse the eighteen fifty six that's the Flying
(41:52):
Eagle. I have a lot ofwork to do on this one. Some
big coins going to PCGS. Seethe video before there you go. That's
a really nice set, very cool. It looks nice even color, which
is I think the hardest thing todo with with sense. Yep, yep,
(42:13):
those are difficult. We can kindof rattle through the video. I'm
gonna click a little further here.Yeah, it looks like some nice coins
in there. Very interesting Killers Rowgetting into the eighteen seventies. Yeah,
I like that. Yeah, eighteensixties and seventies. Man, that's Killer's
Row. That's what we call it. That's tough stuff. Yeah, anything
(42:35):
with any meat on it can bevery very expensive in a hurry. So
and then you get down into thelater stuff here. I'm gonna get down
to the juicy meat down here atthe bottom the eight and nine s.
Yeah, very cool. Looks likesome nice coins in there. Thank you,
Brian, thank you so much.Thank you. Amanda Broaderick posted a
(42:55):
picture nothing else, but that's okay. You're perfectly welcome to do that.
And it is a Henting counterfeit nickelnineteen forty four. This is an interesting
story. I've always liked these,so, yeah, there was a gentleman
that just decided back during World Wartwo to make his own nickels, and
(43:15):
he did, and it's a veryinteresting story if you ever get a chance
to look it up. Henning Counterfeits. The guy made a whole bunch of
counterfeit nickels, and he forgot thelarge mint mark over the building and that's
how they were discovered. So veryvery so, he made them with several
(43:36):
different dates on them, yes,and the one that brought attention to him
was the forty four forty four yep, Because other than that, they were
pretty much indistinguishable, I mean detailwise and the way they look and easily
distinguishable once you know the tell,right, and the tell is in the
R of pluribis on the reverse,you'll see this whole and all the Henning
(44:00):
Nichols forty four almost I have actuallyfound examples. They said that our heatings
that don't have that. Oh okay, well they almost all have this weird
misshapen bubble in the bottom leg ofthe R. So there you go,
okay. Eric Walton says, lastone needed for the book, and he
(44:21):
shows us a very nice one thingbefore we can you go back to the
last one? Sure? So,Paula Bloom says Amanda Cherry Pictus. Are
we talking about Amanda from I'm Sorryfrom Live Coin Q? And A,
Oh, yeah, that's who thatis. Yeah, that's exactly who that
is. I'll tell you what sheis. Quiet but very very knowledgeable.
(44:43):
Quiet but mighty yeah. I loveit. Eric Walton says, last one
needed for the book, and heshows us a very nice circulated but still
very nice nineteen twenty one d WalkingLiberty half dollar, which is the key
to eight for the series. Veryvery cool coin. Yeah, Clinton Ogle
says, waiting to get this backfrom the grading company. Love the color,
(45:07):
and he shows us the reverse ofa Carson City twenty cent piece and
the obverse is in eighteen seventy five, so in eighteen seventy five CC twenty
cent piece. I love twenty centpieces. They're one of my favorite coins,
just because they're just they've only madethem for like five years. They're
just so strange. They're strange littlecoins. They're very cool. Yes,
(45:27):
double dimes. Stephen Mayer says,pick this up this week. Just love
the history behind it, and heshows us a nineteen twenty five Lexington Commandment
in PCGS MS sixty three. Lookslike a nice white coin. Let's see
if we got a picture of theback. We do. Thank you,
nice white coin, very very pretty. Thank you for bringing it tonight.
(45:52):
Absolutely. JR. Preston says,one of my favorite coins. Not a
great piece, but proud to ownit. I don't know if i'd say
it's not a great piece. Ithink it's a great piece. This is
the epitome of an everyman on nineSVDB. It's had the chef's kiss of
cac on it. It's this isa nice coin. Yep, he shows
(46:14):
us, I would be proud toown this coin. He shows us a
nineteen oh nine SVDB PC just AUfifty eight with a cacksticker. Thank you
so much. That's a cool coin. Up double dipper Double Dipper JR.
Preston also brings. He says,I'm currently doing consignment work for a friend,
uh, for a friend with sportscards and other collectibles. Came across
(46:35):
this bank note. Being from Pittsburghand Freeport is nearby, I had to
buy this and it is a nineteentwenty nine small sized national twenty dollars bill
from the Farmer's National Bank of Freeport, Pennsylvania. Awesome, thank you.
Oh it's nice to find those holdnationals. Yeah, that's right, Vance
Adkins says, added to my civilwar tokens. Oh, this is a
(46:57):
cool one. This is a patrioticIt says united, we stand, divided,
we fall, and we get tothe other side. Pulled up here.
Oh it's a it's an advertising piece. It says drugs, dry goods,
groceries, hardware, and notions.But it doesn't have the merchant's name
on it, so this might havebeen like a generally made piece where they
(47:17):
could have just you could have orderedthem and used them in your local area.
People would have just known that itwas you. So cool, very
cool. David Hollister says, reachit, purchase lovely Tone Boon. Love
the show. Matt always has thecoolest thing. This is my new favorite
listener right here. David Hollister,thank you, and he shows us a
(47:42):
nineteen thirty six dy Boon in anMS sixty four white label in GC holder
with a cash sticker. Also lookslike a very nice coin. A little
bit of peripheral toning that looks likea first gen holder. No, it's
the white label. It's like JENtwo. I think, Okay, same
(48:02):
thing. Yeah, really early itwas what I was getting at. Yeah,
but the coins in there, thatcoin is a monster, is a
luster bomb. You can just seeit from here. Very very cool.
Group expert Jack Young says, afriend sent me images of this seventeen ninety
nine. As I reviewed them,I realized they match one documented in a
counterfeit attaction summary by the ANA fromnineteen seventy seven to nineteen eighty two.
(48:27):
Articles of the Numesmetist Counterfeit seventeen ninetynine dollars starts on page ninety three of
the collective summary. After discussion,he sent it to me to add to
my collection. For a previous CoinWeek article, I stated about another example.
Although the subject example displays the characteristicsof a genuine die state three coin
with class marks all over the dateon the reverse, the obvious mark in
(48:52):
R is not a die state ofa genuine Bowlander one p. Fifty eight
and his article can be found here. But guys, this coin right here
is counterfeit. And I know thatmight blow your mind because it looks really
good, But it is a counterfeit. That's an insanely good common and it's
an old counterfeit. These have beenaround for a long time. This is
(49:14):
one of the scary ones. Butthe way you can tell on this coin,
there's a tell believe it or not. This particular die For some reason,
there was this little hole in theR in Liberty. So if you
ever see a seventeen ninety nine busdollar and right in the center of the
R there you see this little bittyhole, that coin is actually a known
(49:35):
counterfeit. They do exist, Theyare out there. I have seen them
before. Obviously Jack here has hasshown us one. So there you go.
If you're ever in that market,and I see, yep, you
see that little hole in the rThat is an old counterfeit and a very
very good one. See Carl Carbone, friend of the show, says,
(49:58):
this week I got my first exampleof Chinese joss paper. A JFK Hell
bank note is very good condition andan interesting piece of eggs on me a
paper. Do you know the storybehind these? No? So the way
I understand, in the way thatit was explained to me, is in
Chinese culture, when you die andyou go on to the afterlife, you
(50:21):
actually need money in the afterlife.So these are actually notes that were made
to be given as offerings to thedead to be taken into the afterlife.
There you go. So that's whythey're hell banknotes or were they making a
statement about JFK. I don't know. I just know that that was a
story as it was explained to me. That's what a hell bank note is.
(50:44):
It's meant to be used as anoffering into the afterlife. That's what
I know. So there you go. I always thought you couldn't take here
with you, that's right. Well, apparently in China you can. And
Mike last but not Le says,an interesting find in my daughter's change jar.
He shows us in nineteen ninety sevenslash nineteen ninety eight Washington Quarter.
(51:07):
It looks like it's a double headedmagician's coin, but awesome to find in
change Those are always fun They soundfunky when you drop them. That was
your coolest thing, you guys rock, thank you so much. And for
that, we thank you, andfor that, we thank you. And
I'm going to take a drink now, go ahead. You've been talking a
(51:29):
lot. I want to. Iwanted to concentrate on the chat for a
couple of minutes. It's like Isaw that Adam from coins and Goals from
the other one of the other contributorsto coin live coin Q and A Awes
is here step in. Thank you, Adam. I'd like you to be
(51:51):
at the hangout this Saturday, ifyou'd like to be there, If you
can, we email me week fromtoday. Mike says, you're invited.
Yeah, so send me an emailat Mike end at HJB ltd dot com.
Wow, you're going to get somuch spam email now from all the
people to listen to the show.Okay, everybody said an email right now.
This is high Mike, just thereyou go. Uh. I also
(52:15):
wanted to comment to Jack Young hehad a question about uh about the whole
charity thing, because I want totell you that Jack was the only donor
Jack charity. Jack is amazing andJack did it without questioning it. As
a matter of fact, Jack tookthe contest which was, Hey, look,
all I want is a pledge,and whoever gets the highest pledge is
(52:37):
going to get it. Jack waslike, you know what I donated,
so whatever, and so he isdefinitely going to uh, he is definitely
going to be number one in thatin that club. He's number one in
my heart for a long time.Oh yeah, thanks so Corey being a
(52:58):
smart alec in the bag, areyou read date your Yeah, it's coming.
It's on the way, friend,it's on the way. Well that
my friend is two thirty one inthe bag. Yes, we've had a
lot of awesome people hanging out withus tonight. We had a pretty good
crowd. I'm enjoying hanging out withyou tonight as pretty usual. I know,
(53:20):
I know, I like hanging outwith the listeners. I like reading
the uh, I like reading thechat. The chat's getting more lively.
Yeah, and uh, definitely gettingbetter. Yeah, I agree. Today
I learned what did you learn today? Well, I mean about the hell
notes. Oh yeah, and Iactually saw Carl said they actually burned them
as an offering. I remember thatnow, Yeah, he said, so
(53:44):
that makes more sense. Yeah,yeah, you're gonna burn them so that
they can go with them into theafternife and you can have luscious parties with
your money. All right, Sochat while you're here and before everybody splits.
We know who Paula wants to winthe super Bowl? But who you
got in the super Bowl? Ye, Paula says, the Niners. I
(54:07):
think Mike is a hardcore swifty sohe's going with the with the Chiefs.
Shake it off, Shake it off. So you want to you want to
have a I'm gonna go with theNiners too. Who do you think is
gonna win? I don't have adog in the fight, so to me,
it really doesn't matter. So ifyou want for me to be myself,
(54:30):
I'll say that the only thing Icould possibly clamp onto with this is
that my sister is a Chiefs fan, and so just to kind of aggravate
her, I would go Niners.You know what I'm here for the commercials,
just saying, yes, I thinkthe commercials are the better part of
the Super Bowl. Also, what'sthe what's the over under? On how
(54:52):
many times they show Taylor Swift onTV? I wonder what it is?
I bet that's bet that is.But I will guarantee you that that is
a prop bet. Oh, Iknow it is. I'm gonna say five
over under five? What do youthink? Oh, it's gonna be way
over the Okay, hammer the over, it is what he's saying, everybody,
hammer the over on that coin toss? Will it be heads or tails?
(55:14):
Sales never fails, Tales never fails, sales never fails. All right,
well, friend, let's get outof here. You got I'm going
to go fall asleep, I thinkbecause I'm exhausted. But I do love
hanging out with you guys. COVIDWarrior. Yeah I know, right,
I know. All right, Well, thank you to everybody who came,
(55:35):
thank you to everybody who participated,and most of all, thank you to
everybody who supports and listens to thispodcast. Without you guys, this just
wouldn't happen. Right. For thecoin show, I'm Matt, I'm Mike,
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