April 14, 2024 • 44 mins
Join Mike and Matt for another episode of The Coin Show Podcast, where we dive into the fascinating world of coins and currency. In Episode 234, we’re exploring the latest news in numismatics, sharing insights on upcoming coin shows, and reveal our coolest things.
Whether you’re a seasoned collector or just starting out, there’s something for everyone in this episode. Don’t forget to hit that like button, subscribe for more content, and consider becoming a supporter to help us keep the show running.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the Coin Show Podcast, a podcast about coins
and coin collecting from the perspective of both dealers and collectors,
hosted by two guys with a passion for collecting and
a combined experience of over fifty years in the coin industry.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Here's Matt Dinger and Mike Notleman on the Coin Show Podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah Here we are, Episode shoot thirty four, Yeah Wow Podcast.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
I'm Mike and I'm mad.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
And uh, you know your Your music never ceases to
make me smile.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
It's always something different and it's always so cool.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
Gotta get your head bobbing, buddy before we do the show, just.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Like I have to get you laughing every time. That's right,
people are starting to pile in.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
I see Jack Young is here. Can't have a show
without Jack.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
So on this episode of the Coin Show Podcast, we
will be talking about the Central State Show and what
we've got coming up. We are going to be doing
some stuff there and you guys, if you're attending, you
get a chance to join in.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
We will also do the coolest.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Thing to walk into our shop this week that seems
to think he has a chance I do. But first,
as always news, the news is brought to you buy
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Speaker 4 (01:46):
Another tribute to the genius that are toothpicks.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
I like that one. That was good. That was good.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
You know, I do my best, So Matt in the news,
Kentuck has now joined the states and it is now
a majority of states that have a.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Tax exception for currency in.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Good job, Kentucky, good job.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Most coin shows. So's it's always a good thing. There
are how many states are left that don't.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Allow well, so it says here that the Bluegrass State
has become the forty fourth state. So sounds like six
if my math is correct.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
So if your math is correct, that we still have
fifties states. Yes, that's correct. So six places have decided
that they don't want coin shows enough to.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Where it doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Well, you know whatever, it's just taken.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
But I'm glad to see it.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
And Kentucky, you know, could use the commerce. It's a
great state.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
I love Kentucky, even a commonwealth.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
True dad, true that?
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
The Certified Acceptance Corporate has announced the C A C
Grading Club.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
They had a couple of announcements this week.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
I saw, so.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
That's what I thought was really important from the standpoint
of this is now going to allow the general public
to submit coins to SAC for grading.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
I think it's like a ninety like one hundred dollars
yearly thing and then you get some credits towards grading
or something. I think that's what it says here. Yeah,
there it is.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
It says that they're going to give you. I think
it was.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
A fifty hours grading credit.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
And a subscription to market Review.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Okay, there you go, tinety nine bucks. Not bad at
all really, And then they also.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
It's the submission privileges. I think that are that are
the real value there?
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Oh, one hundred percent. Yeah, I mean that's now they
don't have to go through people like us that are
submission centers to have their coins, you know, have their
coins sent in.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Come back out at sixty three yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Also, they also announced just a couple of days ago
that their registry is almost ready to or is ready
is coming.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
So now now you may look at that as a
very small, d democratic kind of move right to be
the everyman's grading service.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Anybody can submit it.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
But think about it from a business standpoint, it's genius
because the fact of the matter is is that now
anybody can submit it, which means they're going to get
all the stuff that should be submitted.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Well, yeah, I'm fairly sure that those grading companies, when
they get those kind of orders, they kind of look
at each other and they're like, yep.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
This one, Yeah, it's gonna end up in a jug box. Okay,
here we go.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Yeah, so you know, I mean it's interesting though.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
In us MIN news, the new quarter silver proof set
is out. So this is the silver set of the
five designs for the women on Quarters.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
I like the designs this year.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I can't really speak to who some of these women are.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Man, that's Celia Cruz. That she is looking mighty feisty.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Celia Cruz is an icon.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Yeah, mighty fighter.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Absolute icon.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
And I mean, you know, so, I don't know. I like,
I like how they're spreading it around. I did not
really appreciate the fact that Riya tal Chief, even though
she's a Chicagoan, had two coins last year.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I just didn't think that was worth it. But these
sets are available for eighty bucks.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, eighty bucks for five silver quarters, and they've already
sold thirty four thousand of them. Wow, really, forty five
thousand of them. Holy cow, forty five thousand of them,
and they're only going to sell like maybe two.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Hundred thousand of them total.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Huh. Don't you remember when you could get those in
your proof your silverproof sets?
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Well you still can.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Yeah, but if this set here is eighty dollars, and
how much is your silverproof set one hundred and fifty one, twenty.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
And one thirty somewhere there?
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Yeah, yikes, yikes, bikes.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Yeah, and it's you know, they said that that getting
the pure silver blanks were going to make things cheaper
for them to make.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
That obviously didn't happen.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Maybe it did. Maybe they just up the profit.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Yeah, cheaper, cheaper for who? I guess is the question, right.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
That's that's the real question.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
So, speaking of up, the twenty twenty four American Innovation
Dollar for Alabama has been released.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
The innovation was the Saturn five rocket.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Okay, that was the rocket that they needed that had
enough power to take us to the Moon.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
I can't like that. That's cool. I'm a space guy,
space nerd.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Space cadet. Hey, let's see.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
So in nineteen sixty seven, nasaid the Apollo fore mission
by launching the inaugural sturdy five rocket.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
That's cool. That's a cool coin. I might have to
get some of those, just because I'm a nerd like that.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
I have to pick myself up off the floor. You'd
best stop with this. I'll talk all crazy.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
This next story is kind of what more and more
of my I think.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
So so coin Week is reporting, uh, the assale of
a strong mint State eighteen oh five capped bust right
half eagled.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
They here we go. I got pictures of it. There
she is eighteen oh five five dollar gold piece and
MS sixty four by PCGS and the coin actually kind
of looks Mint State. Some of these coins over the
years have gotten into the like have gone from AU
fifty five's up to like m S sixty twos and
you can tell. But this coin is not bad. I
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don't hate this coin.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Only four obverseizes two reversed eyes for the eighteen to
oh five cap bust, right.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
And what did this What did this coin sell for?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (08:07):
It's still it's selling currently. It has eight days and
one hour.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Eight days, one hour left. And but I mean look
at that coin. Yeah, that coint it's about as nice
as a half eagle gets.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
You know, a five dollar gold.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Piece was not not a as a ten dollar gol piece, right,
even though the ten dollars goal piece was harder to
come back.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
Yeah, that win's pretty The luster got a lot of
luster form one of those. It's not struck all that
well as you can see up in the hair here.
You know, it's got the little flat kind of dark spots.
I think that striking not where. But the reverse looks
pretty fully struck, except maybe right in here. It's got
pretty bang and luster all the way across. It's say,
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I can't argue with that great Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
And it I mean if you look, they could barely
fit the stars on it.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Yeah, yeah, that's cool. I mean, yeah, they're not very
big coins. They're they're they're slightly larger than the uh,
slightly larger than the fives that we get that we know,
you know, like the ones the Liberties and the Indians,
but not much bigger.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
So Dax Bowers did have There's Spring twenty twenty four
showcase auction and they ended up doing over thirty two
million of this. But what I thought was really interesting
was some of these notes that were offered. So if
you want to look, there is so This first one
is a legal tender.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Then eighteen sixty two fifty dollars legal tender wood chipper right.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
No, no, this is just a legal tender. Any of
these eighteen sixty two series notes, they're tough, tough, tough
to find halfway.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
These Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
That's absolutely beautiful. This soon says repaired. Let's see if
we can figure out where it was repaired. I see it,
Do you see it? I see it?
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Do it on the bottom.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
It's on the bottom and the top right here, and
then right here and then here and looks like maybe
right there there was some repair work done. It looks
like it might have had a couple holes in it
and it was repaired at one point. Yeah, you can
see it on the front here. Cool.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Cool, there's another one there is let's see a one
dollar legal tender note, which was the sign sixty seven EPQ.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Wow, that's a monster.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
It's the finest of its Freeberg number. Knowe this one
went for twenty six or wow, that's a cool note.
Twenty one fifty three was in eighteen sixty two to
ten dollars legal tender.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
That's probably one of my favorite notes that has the
very kind of Stoic Lincoln and the Turkey Eagle.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
And look at the signature on the right, yeah, spinner, Yeah,
they always I mean it's like the ones that looked
like that. And he's not a couple of notes, yeah,
a lot of the frack you do a lot of fractionals.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Okay, yeah, that's where you see his signature.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Let's see, so this one got sixty three thousand. Wow,
there's a fifty dollars silver certificate, an eighteen ninety one
fifty dollars silver certificate, sixty sixty PQ.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Yeah, it's a man man.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Yeah, yeah, it's beautiful. Since we hired our paper money guy,
I have a new appreciation for this stuff.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Well, it's good. So that one, that one got twenty
eight eight.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Wow. I have one of these hanging on my wall
at the office. Not nearly this nice, but and not
nearly that lowes cereal number.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
And there was the sheet, the uncut sheet of four.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Eagles, black eagles. Yeah yeah, that got twenty eight eight wow.
Look at the back, but not least very cool.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Yeah, let's see.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Here where is one thousand dollars gold certificate gridded extremely
fine forty fi PMNG So it's a small size thousand
dollars gold certificate.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Really rare.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Yeah, those are stupid rare. Any of those, Any of
those gold seals, uh, small sized gold seals like that
are just dumb, rare notes, all of them, every single
one of them.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
So this one got thirty four to eight.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Wow, very cool stuff, really nice, nice Canada.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
So Canada has new twenty dollars over proof coins to
celebrate the one hundredth anniversary of the Row Canadian Air Force.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Man, I see this coin and I think Highway to
the Danger Zone is just playing in my head.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
See, and I think about South Park and I'm not
your guy, buddy, your buddy.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Now, high Way to the danger Zone. Yeah, that's what
that coin. That's what that coin screams to me. And
then I see a big ear on it, and I'm like, oh.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Well, look he's gotta be on it.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Yeah, I know, but man, his his bust just keep
getting weirder and weirder on the coins.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
You know what, You're gonna make me speaking into existence.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
But I'm telling you, you complain about him enough, okay,
and he's gonna go away and they're gonna put will
on the coins. And for whatever reason, Will is going
to have something disfigurement on. I don't know what it is,
but it's gonna be ugly.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Fall down the stairs and yeah, I don't know, man,
it's just just staring at you, just a big old
ear just looking right at you.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
It's crazy, crazy, got too, So I love.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
This story made me think about about something that happened
in American history.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
But let's cover the story first.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
So there's a new hundred real coin that was released
by a rebel controlled you Many bank. So the rebels
took over the central bank in Yemen and they started
making money. Okay, I mean very much like the Confederacy
took over mids like New Orleans.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
And started striking coins. That's true making money.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
So, I mean, this is not an original idea, but
it is a very cool story.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
I wonder, hey, get one cool to have.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah, Well, the question is is, uh did they I
mean they didn't make dies for the.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Yeah, they had to. They had to. That's how they
made them. They're struck. If you look at them, they
have luster and they're they're definitely struck.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
So I know, but uh, the Republic of Yemen, uh
real coins is noticeably missing from these new coins.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Okay, so they took something off of the coin.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
They took out the ego insignia of the Republic of Yemen.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Yeah, so maybe they altered existing dies. I'm just trying
to think of how they did, you know, dies and stuff.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
I mean, a properly motivated person could could easily make
up dies.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yeah, but I'm talking skill.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
I'm not talking about motivation. I'm talking about skill.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Well, I mean, if you look at them, they do
kind of look a little odd. That that weird building
on the front. I mean, yeah, they they got it
all right, but it kind of looks like a cheese grater.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
And the writing looks I'm not even good.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
The ecuash isn't bad, the Roman lettering or that I
can't read Arabic, so yeah, I read Arabic numbers. That's
about it.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Oh, there's only ten of them, jerk. So the Chapman
Collection of century old one dollar gold coins has been unearthed. Uh,
this is this.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
So I was trying to get my head around this
because this set was assembled by Henry and.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Yeah, Henry Chapman.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Henry Chapman and his brother you know, who were both
coin dealers and so they had a complete set of
one dollar Liberty had an Indian princess had dollars struck
between eighteen forty nine and eighteen eighty.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Nine, that whole set of them. And it's come to
light I see by looking.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
At the Yeah, so it's uh, what's the other brother's name.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
I don't know, but.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
They were very famous. They were very famous coin dealers. Oh,
Samuel Hudson Chapman, that's what it is. Yeah, so Yapman
and brother Samuel Hudson Chapman. They were really famous coin
dealers in the late nineteenth century and twentieth century Philadelphia,
early twentieth century. So when we took in that gigantic
collection two years ago I was talking about they were
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all in beat maximal envelopes and Henry Chapman envelopes. So
some of these coins have the Chapman envelopes as well
as the slabs.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Well, I think that I think the coins turned if
you read this story here, which I didn't, I think
that the coins actually turned up in the envelopes from
a family in Philadelphia. And then it said the current
owners thought their ancestors coins might be worth about fifty
thousand dollars, but they are now insured for two million.
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So it looks like they had a complete set of
dollars in the Chapman envelopes.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Yeah, I mean a sixty eight sixty three goal dollar.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
There's an eighteen to eighty one proof sixty six deep
cam Wow monster coins in your eighty four sixty seven
plus cam some big stuff.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
It just goes to show you though, that that stuff
you just never know when it's going to turn up,
where it's going to turn up, And that's what keeps
me going back to my office every day. I know
you're the same way.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
So actually my mind's up, my eyes above that because
it's like it. It prompted me to make the comment,
the obvious comment of everything is somewhere, because you know,
it's not that they're all concentrated in the cities or
in high end collect they're scattered.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
Yeah, I mean, these people love this collection was worth
fifty thousand dollars and it was worth two million. I mean,
looks like they were in for a prisent surprise when
those coins were evaluated. So cool, very cool, And.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
One of my favorite parts of the news every week
is when I get an opportunity to review one of
Jack Young's fun with fake ads.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Oh boy, here we go.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
There's an eighteen thirty three not PCGS half dollar counterfeit.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Well, but it says pc just right on the slab,
right there on the back, you see.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
It sure does.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
And it says eighteen thirty three, and it says United
States of America.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
It's not that either.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
You know, Jack breaks this down how he found the eBay,
how you found the eBay listing, And he starts to
point out things from the slab that are bad, things
from the coin that are bad. And you know this
is just where he is doing Yeomen's work to the hobby.
And then down towards the bottom, he has to fake
coin shown next to.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
True views of actual genuine coin. Is it? Is it?
Speaker 5 (20:02):
The is the actual genuine coin in the same certification.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Number from the one from the actual.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Right, So that is the the one on the right
is the fake slabs certification number, but the real coin one,
the one on the left is the junk that made
his way into the fake holder. Oh. It even shows
a picture of the real one with a cack sticker. Cool. Oh.
And then I keep scrolling and there's more. There's the
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second one that.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Would be the first thing to look for is look
for the cassticker. I know. Yeah, let's see.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
So yeah he has so let's see, this one has
deactivated certification.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
It could possibly go wrong. This one the lettering is wrong.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
Well, it looks like they So PC is really good
about this. When they see those fake slabs, they will
actually go in their system and kill that certificate numb
even though it does belong to a real coin. And
I'm fairly sure that they will hold her that real
coin in with a new certificate number for the owner.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
They do, they contact the owner and then they they
they rehold her with a certain number.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Yeah, so now there's a twist. See here's a twist.
It looks like a different date but with the same
reverse die. Yep, so that just shows that they're using
the same fake reverse die to strike different dates. But
that date's really bad.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Basically, what he's saying is that, Okay, so they shut
down that operation.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
So now he's moved it here.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Well, but these are all made by the same people
because they they use What.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
I'm saying is that now he's he's making the eighteen twelve.
The eighteen twenty four is the.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
Right Wow, all those.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
I'm just glad we have check.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
Yeah, it's a cess pool out there. Friends, be very
careful when buying coins, especially from places like Etsy, but
even he is pretty good about pulling that stuff down.
But places like Etsy and Craigslist, or not Craigslist, but
like Facebook Marketplace. There is nobody patrolling like Jack out
there on those places that that the the websites will
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actually listen to and take take care of business when
they have to.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
So just be careful, be very careful, and read Jack's
articles first, yes, yes, And finally in the news.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
I'm gonna have to take.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Our friends at coin Week Charles Morgan and Hubert Walker
coin a week notes to task on this, because uh oh,
what is a story that has a lot of a
lot of detail and a lot of nuance and they
condensed it into four paragraphs and some notes And if
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you don't really like reading the notes, you're not going
to learn anything from this. So I really think it
was a very interesting time in nineteen sixty four when
they decided to do the date freeze on coins. At
this point, there was more than a dollar's worth or
rapidly approaching more than a dollar's worth of silver in
a dollar's worth of silver coins, and so, you know,
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the United States government knew that they had to do
something about it, but they didn't know if people would
accept the non silver coinage. It was literally fiat current,
you know. I mean, it's just as it's worthless. You
couldn't melt it, you couldn't do anything with it, and
so they really didn't know if people were going to
accept it. Now, the article, you know, talks about the
(23:45):
date freeze and talked about you know, they authorized the
date freeze in the summer sixty four, which is correct,
and it allowed them to strike coins with the date
of nineteen sixty four.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
After nineteen sixty four, and that was kind of half
of it.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
And then they need the Act the Coinage back in
nineteen sixty five to enable them to you know, change
the composition of the coins. So nineteen sixty five dated
coins in clad consistency. So that's old story. We know
all that kind of stuff. But the notes, and this
is what you're showing, which I like, is what is
interesting because if you notice the nineteen sixty four coins
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were struck all the way into nineteen sixty five.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
And even right here in nineteen sixty six for the dimes,
I feel like.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Dimes nineteen sixty six.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
What a lot of people don't realize is that in
nineteen sixty six they also struck nineteen sixty five dated
clad coins, so they didn't change the date on coins
until mid sixty six, and mid sixty six was when
they started when they stopped making silver coinage entirely, and
(24:54):
they stopped making sixty fives.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
They made sixty.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Six coinage really for the rest of the year, and
regular coinage resumed in sixty seven as clad coins with
the new you know, fifty or forty half dollars.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
And then the nickel copper quarters and dimes, yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
And the copper quarters and dimes, And it's like, oddly
they froze the date on pennies and nickels, which weren't necessary.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
It was just kind of a.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I think a convention, right, you know, because there was
no need. But they did that as well. And actually
you'll find that the mintages on the sixty six coins,
even though it's still very very large, were the smallest
out of the three of sixty five, six and seven
when they were just absolutely trying to flood the economy
(25:43):
with new coin right now. For a long time too.
You know, they've said, well, the coin collectors caused a
coin shortage, and coin collectors.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Oh no, no, no, yes we did.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
It's time we owned it because if you think about it,
you know, the people that were sticking away rolls of coins,
roll collectors, we're creating your coin short Oh.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
We still see it. To this day, not a day
goes by where I do not buy a coin that
was struck during this time period in the United States.
I mean literally every day in my office, I buy
one of these or hundreds of these. Still this many
years later.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
So so yeah, so they made one hundred and sixty
seven million nineteen sixty four dimes. Ear yeah, nineteen sixty
four dimes in nineteen sixty six.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
They could have laid this out a little better. It's
a lot of numbers running together.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
I mean, this is a really interesting story and it's
got a lot of meat to it, and I think
that this is this is great.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
One time I actually.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Sat down with the Coin World Almanac trying to figure
out what the exact dates were on when they started,
when they stopped, when they did, And this was when
I figured out that they made the sixty five coins
into sixty six.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Yeah huh, you know, but there.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
You have it.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
So it's like, you know, it's did you put this
up here for me to be a slam duncit?
Speaker 4 (27:12):
We can throw it on the rim for me to
slam it out. I don't know, but.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
It certainly would have been nicer if they'd spouted on
this sum or.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
Just you know, like I said, this here is very confusing.
They could have laid that table out a little bit better,
I think.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
So well till the coin shortage was resolved and the
issue was set to be revisible. So that's the news
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Speaker 2 (27:50):
You're listening to the Coin Show podcast with Matt Dinger
and Mike Noteleman.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
So you've been getting any coin shows lately?
Speaker 3 (27:59):
By generally, I don't do a lot of shows because
that's not my gig.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
My gig is working the counter, all right.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
You occasionally get out of my cage and they let
me fly for you at shows, and it just so
happens that I will be at a show in a
couple of short weeks.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
What show is that?
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Let's see you Ever heard of the Central States Unismatic
Society No?
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Never, never?
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Okay, Well, this great group that holds the show in
Schomberg every year at the Renaissance Hotel.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
And it's like my buddy Matt and I.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Are always there and we're bumming around and we're you know,
doing things, making content, and we're easier to find than ever.
This year because Lost Dutchman Rare Coins will have a table.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
We are at table fifteen eleven. If you happen to
be attending and you want to swing by and say hi,
I will be at fifteen eleven.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
And Harlan J. Burke featuring Russ and myself will be
at four A.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
And the best part is the entire Coin Show crew
will be at this event. I think everybody.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Crew, everybody is Leanna going to be there. Yeah, everybody,
everybody here, So you're going to see a lot of us.
There are going to be special guest appearances by other people.
I hear Ben the coin Geek is going to be there.
So this is a really great show. Central States last
year was probably the biggest show other than the Anaides
(29:30):
and it was huge.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
It was It was.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Really great, great turnout, lots of dealers, lots of good coins.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
This year promises to be better.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Yep. And well, while we're talking about coin shows, why
don't we just I figured I would rattle off the
upcoming shows that are tomorrow, the fourteenth of April here,
twenty twenty four. I have a little list of them
here though. These are upcoming local shows. The camel Back
Collectible Show in Phoenix, Arizona is tomorrow. The West Suburban
(29:57):
Coin and Collectible Show in Country, Illinois is tomorrow. Seventy
First Street Coin and Currency Show in Indianapolis is tomorrow.
I will not be there.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
At the one in Countryside.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
There you go. The Greater Worcester Coin Shows in Auburn,
Massachusetts tomorrow. Royal Oak Metro Detroit Coin Show is in
Royal Oak, Michigan tomorrow. South Saint Paul Monthly Coin Show
See Burlington Coin Show Burlington Township, New Jersey tomorrow. Melville
(30:35):
Coin Stamp Collectible Show in Melville, New York tomorrow. Wayne
County Coin Club Annual Show in Wooster, Ohio is tomorrow.
The O and R Coin Show is in Pittsburgh and
the mont Coin Coin Show is in Telford, Pennsylvania tomorrow.
So if you guys get a chance, go to a
local show. They're fun. You find all sorts of people there.
(30:58):
You may not see meet new friends. You might see
Mike and I bumming around one of these shows. You
just never know.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Love to join, You never really know what you're gonna find.
That's right, and joined Ilna.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
I've joined uh U, C, S, N S.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
And AH A bunch of really good organizations of a
lot of really cool Oh and the oh, what is it.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
The the coin Club. I belonged to an Indiana. I
don't even live in Indiana. I belong to an Indiana.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
The Indiana State and Asmatic Association.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
No, no, it's a small town homart. It's the one
run by uh mister Eric Kittens.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
Oh Richmond, Richmond. Yeah, I did. They had a they
had their first coin show the other day and I
attended and it was great. It was a great show.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Yeah, they do. They do really cool stuff.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
All right, friend, Well, anything else you want to talk
about coinshow wise?
Speaker 4 (31:53):
No? Not really.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
I think that coin shows are are a really great
learning opportunity for you. The best part about is the
fact that you get to see things that you probably
won't see, You can handle things that you probably can't afford,
and you get a chance to look at a lot
of different examples of coins, and that really is the
best way to know what you know, what's going on
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and what's out there right.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
Coin shows are a great price to learn if you're
thinking about getting involved in a series and you want
to go out and look at these coins before you
start throwing your money down, it's not a bad idea
to get to a show, handle some coins, start playing
with them, get an idea what you're looking at, see
what you might like or what you might dislike. Sometimes
you can take a picture, look at a picture of
a coin on the internet, and once you get in
your hand, you're like, eh, maybe not so clubs.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
I want to do a little I want to do
a little shameless plug.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
Go for it, plug away friend.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
A couple of months ago, I kind of floated the
idea of starting an online coin club, and we went
through the trials and tribulations of trying to set it up.
We named it Yeah So the Collectors of Interesting Numismatic Stuff,
which is coins, and it is up and running I
saw that coins club group on Facebook. If you guys
(33:08):
want to join, all you got to do is send
a send an email, or just to actually go to
Facebook and try to join the coins club. We have,
we have leadership. Now, we have a president, we have
a schedule. We're gonna have our first meeting on April seventeenth.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
I love it. It is.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
It's starting to finally move. You know, it was it
was a slow process building. But we've got like seventy
five or eighty members already.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Wow, heck yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
So's it promises to be pretty interesting and I know that,
you know, this is going to be.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
What I like about the idea of the online coin
club is.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
That there's no duce. There's you know, none of that stuff.
It doesn't have all the five O'T one C three stuff.
So we don't have to do minutes, we don't have
to do.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
You're just there for the fun part.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
We get to do the fun stuff and leave it
at that. I like it a lot of the stuff.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
That we do, you know, so like we we meet
on zoom and so you know, yes, somebody donates that,
but you know it's that's not really a big donation.
And if everybody you know pitches in just a little
bit to help everybody.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Then we have a really cool club.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
Yeah. One other thing I wanted to mention a Central
States and then we'll get to the part of the
show where I kick your butt is my friend Melissa
Kahn messaged me the other day and at Central States,
the Women of Numismatics is having a meeting and Liz
Conkin is doing a presentation there. Her presentation is titled
(34:36):
Lady Liberty Real or Ideal and that's on Thursday at
four point thirty pm at Central States. The second of May,
I believe is when that is there, you go if
you guys would be interested in hearing that, and we'll
be at Central States. That's how you go and see it.
So all right, I'm gonna hit this button here real quick.
Let's see what not that one?
Speaker 2 (34:57):
And now for the coolest thing to walk in? This
week a competition segment between Matt and Mike to see
who's had the coolest thing walk into their shops. Who'll
win this episode? Let's find out Matt Mike, who's got
the coolest thing?
Speaker 5 (35:18):
You're a double dipper. You're a double dipper.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
I'm okay with that. I'm absolutely okay with that.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
I previewed My Coolest Thing last week during our actually
it was last show.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Yeah, it was during our Coolest Thing.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Put look, double Dipper only came back. It came back, grated,
it grated. Pcgs Per sixty eighteen cameo, this coin is
a one stuff.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
You've given it a name.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
We have. We have given it the name Phoenix Rising.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
And I mean for a target toned coin, I can't
say I've been a big fan of Tony right, say
I'm big. I'm a big fan of commemorative silver dollars. Yeah,
and yet here we are.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
It's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
It's just a smoke show, is I mean you take
a coin that on average, I don't think you can
get me to turn around and look at And I
mean you've elevated this just through natural toning to a
four digit coin.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Uh yeah, I would.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
Say probably for sure. I mean, don't get me wrong,
the coin is pretty It's just a darn shame that
it picked one of the ugliest coins ever to happen
on This is true.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
But if you're going to have one of the ugliest
coins ever, this is the way you want.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
To have it.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
Yeah, that's like having a proof like Susan B. Anthony
Doward though it's.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Like better yet though it at least just not the
Olympic side that's tone.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Just the eagle that's beautiful. So you know, look, this
coin is just it's striking. It really gets you. It
just has a look to it, and it's even more
vibrant in hand.
Speaker 5 (37:10):
Oh, I suspect definitely. I just like that you guys
named it. I think that's cool.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
And truthfully, in the deal that we bought this, there
were seven other sets with this silver dollar in it, right,
all stored exactly the same way in the exact same place,
and none of them, huh, single one of them were
toned like this at all.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
Sometimes it nature is mysterious when it comes to this
kind of stuff. You just never ever know. Very very
very cool coin. I'm going to show you the coin
I brought. And actually we have also named our coin.
His name is Larry Great Larry. Yeah. We woun in
(37:57):
nineteen sixteen d half in a piece, just green label
sixty four holder and it got acac sticker, quite pretty,
got a lot of luster, got a little bit of
just kind of muted toning, a little little purple.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
I'll let you know it's original.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
Yeah, let you know that it's not been monkeyed with,
and let me show you back here and there you go.
Pretty coin. So but I really liked these early coins
because the surfaces, the surfaces on these are just so
cool that they have that orange peel surface to them,
that kind of it's not quite smooth, it's it's very
slightly bumpy. It's cool.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
So want the reverse?
Speaker 5 (38:37):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Can you show us the reverse?
Speaker 5 (38:40):
I had it up? Yeah, sorry, there it is. There
we go, a pretty original survivor that has not been
monkeyed with. I just thought it was cool. So that's
my coolest thing. His name is Larry, Praise him.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Larry is is beautiful.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
Praise Larry.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Are you walking around in his dresses? Hey?
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Look a lot of things? So yeah, no, he's fine.
But does even compared to the Phoenix?
Speaker 5 (39:13):
So oh you guys, you guys even shortened the name
to the phoenix. Do you refer to it like that?
Around the office? You're like, hey, hey, this customer's here. Hey,
go grab the phoenix real quick so we can take
a look at it. Have you done that?
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Well?
Speaker 3 (39:26):
It's either that or say lude disgusting things. So yeah,
that's pretty much what we've done. Man, grab the phoenix
for me.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
You guys are dorks. You guys are dorks up there.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
Captain.
Speaker 5 (39:40):
Oh I know that. I know. My coin's name is Larry.
You're just Phoenix rising.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
My captain. Yeah, Larry wins.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
Oh well that's fun, all right, buddy. Well can you
believe it? We just knocked out another show.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Yeah, and I uh, I seem to like the shorter format.
It's kind of cool.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
It's just it's it's it's just is what it is.
It's just natural progression of things.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Hey, well, we got a lot to say. We'll be
here longer, that's right. This is not indugalt.
Speaker 5 (40:19):
No, and you guys will be seeing a lot of
content from me coming out at the show. I'm sure
Mike will be making some two. We're going to have
some friends up there that we are going to give
them some challenges and we're going to compete with them
at the show, because why not. Why not?
Speaker 4 (40:34):
You will have some swag to give away.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
Yeah, I'm bringing swag. I have new swag, so.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
I've got some old swag.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
Yeah, it'll be it'll be great. Just come by, come
by the table. Michael, have them, I'll have them, and uh, yeah, buddy.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
Come by and say hi and uh and check us out.
See Russ me.
Speaker 5 (40:52):
We have a gentleman stop by the shop this week
who left with a really nice lost Dutchman lanyard and
a bottle of spicy MIC's.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
So, in fact, I saw the post of that's not
the post of that on Facebook.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
It's like, I'll tell you what that spicy Bux is
getting scarce.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
It is. I have exactly two cases left, that's it.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
Yeah, well that's the case. And I have more than
I got.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
Well, when it's gone, it's gone. You know what I have.
I have my secret my office bottle. I keep right here,
just take a little nip when I need to the
shelf behind me. Yeah, oh, I see it. I see
it hiding there yet.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
That's funny what he knows about.
Speaker 5 (41:33):
That's the hidden secret model hide.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
And plain sight.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
So I guess that means that it's time to say
good bye, and fortunately unfortunately, Oh if you.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
Want to come just for the swag, that's fine, We're
cool with that.
Speaker 5 (41:46):
Come on, I'll mean there.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
So we want to thank everybody who has shown up
here in the YouTube chat, everybody shown up on Facebook,
all the people that contribute to the show, from the
Unnamed Soul to the Fuzzy Guy to what other nicknames
do we have?
Speaker 5 (42:08):
We can't say some of them.
Speaker 4 (42:10):
Well tell that's true.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
So thanks Barry, Thanks thanks Corey, and thank you Russ
and Leanna and everybody else who helps fix it as possible.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Thank you mostly to you who listened. Without you, we're
not doing this.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
So check out our website coach a Radio dot com
do not forget. You can find every single episode of
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Speaker 5 (42:36):
They're on our website.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
Yeah, we're on the website. I really, you know. We
had a comment from Tyler Block in the.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Chat tonight saying he's going back to listen to every
episode from the beginning, and he's on episode seventy five.
It's like if he can still keep a coaching thought
in his head after listening first twenty five episodes.
Speaker 5 (42:54):
Us, Hey, he made it's a seventy five. He's in.
He's hooked. I got it.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
It's not the easiest coming.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Yeah, if you if you joined your coins, you'd have
Larry Bird.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
Get it.
Speaker 5 (43:07):
Larry Bird. Oh my god, Okay, that's enough. I gotta
hit this button. We got to shut this thing down.
The jokes are getting bad.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
So long, everybody. Hey bye, everybody. We'll talk to you
next time.
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Here's Matt Dinger and Mike Notleman on the Coin Show Podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah Here we are, Episode shoot thirty four, Yeah Wow Podcast.
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I'm Mike and I'm mad.
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And uh, you know your Your music never ceases to
make me smile.
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It's always something different and it's always so cool.
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Gotta get your head bobbing, buddy before we do the show, just.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Like I have to get you laughing every time. That's right,
people are starting to pile in.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
I see Jack Young is here. Can't have a show
without Jack.
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So on this episode of the Coin Show Podcast, we
will be talking about the Central State Show and what
we've got coming up. We are going to be doing
some stuff there and you guys, if you're attending, you
get a chance to join in.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
We will also do the coolest.
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Thing to walk into our shop this week that seems
to think he has a chance I do. But first,
as always news, the news is brought to you buy
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Another tribute to the genius that are toothpicks.
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I like that one. That was good. That was good.
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You know, I do my best, So Matt in the news,
Kentuck has now joined the states and it is now
a majority of states that have a.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Tax exception for currency in.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Good job, Kentucky, good job.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Most coin shows. So's it's always a good thing. There
are how many states are left that don't.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Allow well, so it says here that the Bluegrass State
has become the forty fourth state. So sounds like six
if my math is correct.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
So if your math is correct, that we still have
fifties states. Yes, that's correct. So six places have decided
that they don't want coin shows enough to.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Where it doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Well, you know whatever, it's just taken.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
But I'm glad to see it.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
And Kentucky, you know, could use the commerce. It's a
great state.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
I love Kentucky, even a commonwealth.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
True dad, true that?
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
The Certified Acceptance Corporate has announced the C A C
Grading Club.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
They had a couple of announcements this week.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
I saw, so.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
That's what I thought was really important from the standpoint
of this is now going to allow the general public
to submit coins to SAC for grading.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
I think it's like a ninety like one hundred dollars
yearly thing and then you get some credits towards grading
or something. I think that's what it says here. Yeah,
there it is.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
It says that they're going to give you. I think
it was.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
A fifty hours grading credit.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
And a subscription to market Review.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Okay, there you go, tinety nine bucks. Not bad at
all really, And then they also.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
It's the submission privileges. I think that are that are
the real value there?
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Oh, one hundred percent. Yeah, I mean that's now they
don't have to go through people like us that are
submission centers to have their coins, you know, have their
coins sent in.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Come back out at sixty three yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Also, they also announced just a couple of days ago
that their registry is almost ready to or is ready
is coming.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
So now now you may look at that as a
very small, d democratic kind of move right to be
the everyman's grading service.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Anybody can submit it.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
But think about it from a business standpoint, it's genius
because the fact of the matter is is that now
anybody can submit it, which means they're going to get
all the stuff that should be submitted.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Well, yeah, I'm fairly sure that those grading companies, when
they get those kind of orders, they kind of look
at each other and they're like, yep.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
This one, Yeah, it's gonna end up in a jug box. Okay,
here we go.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Yeah, so you know, I mean it's interesting though.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
In us MIN news, the new quarter silver proof set
is out. So this is the silver set of the
five designs for the women on Quarters.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
I like the designs this year.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I can't really speak to who some of these women are.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Man, that's Celia Cruz. That she is looking mighty feisty.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Celia Cruz is an icon.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Yeah, mighty fighter.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Absolute icon.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
And I mean, you know, so, I don't know. I like,
I like how they're spreading it around. I did not
really appreciate the fact that Riya tal Chief, even though
she's a Chicagoan, had two coins last year.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I just didn't think that was worth it. But these
sets are available for eighty bucks.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, eighty bucks for five silver quarters, and they've already
sold thirty four thousand of them. Wow, really, forty five
thousand of them. Holy cow, forty five thousand of them,
and they're only going to sell like maybe two.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Hundred thousand of them total.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Huh. Don't you remember when you could get those in
your proof your silverproof sets?
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Well you still can.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Yeah, but if this set here is eighty dollars, and
how much is your silverproof set one hundred and fifty one, twenty.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
And one thirty somewhere there?
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Yeah, yikes, yikes, bikes.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Yeah, and it's you know, they said that that getting
the pure silver blanks were going to make things cheaper
for them to make.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
That obviously didn't happen.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Maybe it did. Maybe they just up the profit.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Yeah, cheaper, cheaper for who? I guess is the question, right.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
That's that's the real question.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
So, speaking of up, the twenty twenty four American Innovation
Dollar for Alabama has been released.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
The innovation was the Saturn five rocket.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Okay, that was the rocket that they needed that had
enough power to take us to the Moon.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
I can't like that. That's cool. I'm a space guy,
space nerd.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Space cadet. Hey, let's see.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
So in nineteen sixty seven, nasaid the Apollo fore mission
by launching the inaugural sturdy five rocket.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
That's cool. That's a cool coin. I might have to
get some of those, just because I'm a nerd like that.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
I have to pick myself up off the floor. You'd
best stop with this. I'll talk all crazy.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
This next story is kind of what more and more
of my I think.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
So so coin Week is reporting, uh, the assale of
a strong mint State eighteen oh five capped bust right
half eagled.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
They here we go. I got pictures of it. There
she is eighteen oh five five dollar gold piece and
MS sixty four by PCGS and the coin actually kind
of looks Mint State. Some of these coins over the
years have gotten into the like have gone from AU
fifty five's up to like m S sixty twos and
you can tell. But this coin is not bad. I
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don't hate this coin.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Only four obverseizes two reversed eyes for the eighteen to
oh five cap bust, right.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
And what did this What did this coin sell for?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (08:07):
It's still it's selling currently. It has eight days and
one hour.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Eight days, one hour left. And but I mean look
at that coin. Yeah, that coint it's about as nice
as a half eagle gets.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
You know, a five dollar gold.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Piece was not not a as a ten dollar gol piece, right,
even though the ten dollars goal piece was harder to
come back.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
Yeah, that win's pretty The luster got a lot of
luster form one of those. It's not struck all that
well as you can see up in the hair here.
You know, it's got the little flat kind of dark spots.
I think that striking not where. But the reverse looks
pretty fully struck, except maybe right in here. It's got
pretty bang and luster all the way across. It's say,
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I can't argue with that great Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
And it I mean if you look, they could barely
fit the stars on it.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Yeah, yeah, that's cool. I mean, yeah, they're not very
big coins. They're they're they're slightly larger than the uh,
slightly larger than the fives that we get that we know,
you know, like the ones the Liberties and the Indians,
but not much bigger.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
So Dax Bowers did have There's Spring twenty twenty four
showcase auction and they ended up doing over thirty two
million of this. But what I thought was really interesting
was some of these notes that were offered. So if
you want to look, there is so This first one
is a legal tender.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Then eighteen sixty two fifty dollars legal tender wood chipper right.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
No, no, this is just a legal tender. Any of
these eighteen sixty two series notes, they're tough, tough, tough
to find halfway.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
These Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
That's absolutely beautiful. This soon says repaired. Let's see if
we can figure out where it was repaired. I see it,
Do you see it? I see it?
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Do it on the bottom.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
It's on the bottom and the top right here, and
then right here and then here and looks like maybe
right there there was some repair work done. It looks
like it might have had a couple holes in it
and it was repaired at one point. Yeah, you can
see it on the front here. Cool.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Cool, there's another one there is let's see a one
dollar legal tender note, which was the sign sixty seven EPQ.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Wow, that's a monster.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
It's the finest of its Freeberg number. Knowe this one
went for twenty six or wow, that's a cool note.
Twenty one fifty three was in eighteen sixty two to
ten dollars legal tender.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
That's probably one of my favorite notes that has the
very kind of Stoic Lincoln and the Turkey Eagle.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
And look at the signature on the right, yeah, spinner, Yeah,
they always I mean it's like the ones that looked
like that. And he's not a couple of notes, yeah,
a lot of the frack you do a lot of fractionals.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Okay, yeah, that's where you see his signature.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Let's see, so this one got sixty three thousand. Wow,
there's a fifty dollars silver certificate, an eighteen ninety one
fifty dollars silver certificate, sixty sixty PQ.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Yeah, it's a man man.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Yeah, yeah, it's beautiful. Since we hired our paper money guy,
I have a new appreciation for this stuff.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Well, it's good. So that one, that one got twenty
eight eight.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Wow. I have one of these hanging on my wall
at the office. Not nearly this nice, but and not
nearly that lowes cereal number.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
And there was the sheet, the uncut sheet of four.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Eagles, black eagles. Yeah yeah, that got twenty eight eight wow.
Look at the back, but not least very cool.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Yeah, let's see.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Here where is one thousand dollars gold certificate gridded extremely
fine forty fi PMNG So it's a small size thousand
dollars gold certificate.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Really rare.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Yeah, those are stupid rare. Any of those, Any of
those gold seals, uh, small sized gold seals like that
are just dumb, rare notes, all of them, every single
one of them.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
So this one got thirty four to eight.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Wow, very cool stuff, really nice, nice Canada.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
So Canada has new twenty dollars over proof coins to
celebrate the one hundredth anniversary of the Row Canadian Air Force.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Man, I see this coin and I think Highway to
the Danger Zone is just playing in my head.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
See, and I think about South Park and I'm not
your guy, buddy, your buddy.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Now, high Way to the danger Zone. Yeah, that's what
that coin. That's what that coin screams to me. And
then I see a big ear on it, and I'm like, oh.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Well, look he's gotta be on it.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Yeah, I know, but man, his his bust just keep
getting weirder and weirder on the coins.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
You know what, You're gonna make me speaking into existence.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
But I'm telling you, you complain about him enough, okay,
and he's gonna go away and they're gonna put will
on the coins. And for whatever reason, Will is going
to have something disfigurement on. I don't know what it is,
but it's gonna be ugly.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Fall down the stairs and yeah, I don't know, man,
it's just just staring at you, just a big old
ear just looking right at you.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
It's crazy, crazy, got too, So I love.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
This story made me think about about something that happened
in American history.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
But let's cover the story first.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
So there's a new hundred real coin that was released
by a rebel controlled you Many bank. So the rebels
took over the central bank in Yemen and they started
making money. Okay, I mean very much like the Confederacy
took over mids like New Orleans.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
And started striking coins. That's true making money.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
So, I mean, this is not an original idea, but
it is a very cool story.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
I wonder, hey, get one cool to have.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah, Well, the question is is, uh did they I
mean they didn't make dies for the.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Yeah, they had to. They had to. That's how they
made them. They're struck. If you look at them, they
have luster and they're they're definitely struck.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
So I know, but uh, the Republic of Yemen, uh
real coins is noticeably missing from these new coins.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Okay, so they took something off of the coin.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
They took out the ego insignia of the Republic of Yemen.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Yeah, so maybe they altered existing dies. I'm just trying
to think of how they did, you know, dies and stuff.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
I mean, a properly motivated person could could easily make
up dies.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yeah, but I'm talking skill.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
I'm not talking about motivation. I'm talking about skill.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Well, I mean, if you look at them, they do
kind of look a little odd. That that weird building
on the front. I mean, yeah, they they got it
all right, but it kind of looks like a cheese grater.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
And the writing looks I'm not even good.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
The ecuash isn't bad, the Roman lettering or that I
can't read Arabic, so yeah, I read Arabic numbers. That's
about it.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Oh, there's only ten of them, jerk. So the Chapman
Collection of century old one dollar gold coins has been unearthed. Uh,
this is this.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
So I was trying to get my head around this
because this set was assembled by Henry and.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Yeah, Henry Chapman.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Henry Chapman and his brother you know, who were both
coin dealers and so they had a complete set of
one dollar Liberty had an Indian princess had dollars struck
between eighteen forty nine and eighteen eighty.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Nine, that whole set of them. And it's come to
light I see by looking.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
At the Yeah, so it's uh, what's the other brother's name.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
I don't know, but.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
They were very famous. They were very famous coin dealers. Oh,
Samuel Hudson Chapman, that's what it is. Yeah, so Yapman
and brother Samuel Hudson Chapman. They were really famous coin
dealers in the late nineteenth century and twentieth century Philadelphia,
early twentieth century. So when we took in that gigantic
collection two years ago I was talking about they were
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all in beat maximal envelopes and Henry Chapman envelopes. So
some of these coins have the Chapman envelopes as well
as the slabs.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Well, I think that I think the coins turned if
you read this story here, which I didn't, I think
that the coins actually turned up in the envelopes from
a family in Philadelphia. And then it said the current
owners thought their ancestors coins might be worth about fifty
thousand dollars, but they are now insured for two million.
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So it looks like they had a complete set of
dollars in the Chapman envelopes.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Yeah, I mean a sixty eight sixty three goal dollar.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
There's an eighteen to eighty one proof sixty six deep
cam Wow monster coins in your eighty four sixty seven
plus cam some big stuff.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
It just goes to show you though, that that stuff
you just never know when it's going to turn up,
where it's going to turn up, And that's what keeps
me going back to my office every day. I know
you're the same way.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
So actually my mind's up, my eyes above that because
it's like it. It prompted me to make the comment,
the obvious comment of everything is somewhere, because you know,
it's not that they're all concentrated in the cities or
in high end collect they're scattered.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
Yeah, I mean, these people love this collection was worth
fifty thousand dollars and it was worth two million. I mean,
looks like they were in for a prisent surprise when
those coins were evaluated. So cool, very cool, And.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
One of my favorite parts of the news every week
is when I get an opportunity to review one of
Jack Young's fun with fake ads.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Oh boy, here we go.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
There's an eighteen thirty three not PCGS half dollar counterfeit.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Well, but it says pc just right on the slab,
right there on the back, you see.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
It sure does.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
And it says eighteen thirty three, and it says United
States of America.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
It's not that either.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
You know, Jack breaks this down how he found the eBay,
how you found the eBay listing, And he starts to
point out things from the slab that are bad, things
from the coin that are bad. And you know this
is just where he is doing Yeomen's work to the hobby.
And then down towards the bottom, he has to fake
coin shown next to.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
True views of actual genuine coin. Is it? Is it?
Speaker 5 (20:02):
The is the actual genuine coin in the same certification.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Number from the one from the actual.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Right, So that is the the one on the right
is the fake slabs certification number, but the real coin one,
the one on the left is the junk that made
his way into the fake holder. Oh. It even shows
a picture of the real one with a cack sticker. Cool. Oh.
And then I keep scrolling and there's more. There's the
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second one that.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Would be the first thing to look for is look
for the cassticker. I know. Yeah, let's see.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
So yeah he has so let's see, this one has
deactivated certification.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
It could possibly go wrong. This one the lettering is wrong.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
Well, it looks like they So PC is really good
about this. When they see those fake slabs, they will
actually go in their system and kill that certificate numb
even though it does belong to a real coin. And
I'm fairly sure that they will hold her that real
coin in with a new certificate number for the owner.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
They do, they contact the owner and then they they
they rehold her with a certain number.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Yeah, so now there's a twist. See here's a twist.
It looks like a different date but with the same
reverse die. Yep, so that just shows that they're using
the same fake reverse die to strike different dates. But
that date's really bad.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Basically, what he's saying is that, Okay, so they shut
down that operation.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
So now he's moved it here.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Well, but these are all made by the same people
because they they use What.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
I'm saying is that now he's he's making the eighteen twelve.
The eighteen twenty four is the.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
Right Wow, all those.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
I'm just glad we have check.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
Yeah, it's a cess pool out there. Friends, be very
careful when buying coins, especially from places like Etsy, but
even he is pretty good about pulling that stuff down.
But places like Etsy and Craigslist, or not Craigslist, but
like Facebook Marketplace. There is nobody patrolling like Jack out
there on those places that that the the websites will
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actually listen to and take take care of business when
they have to.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
So just be careful, be very careful, and read Jack's
articles first, yes, yes, And finally in the news.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
I'm gonna have to take.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Our friends at coin Week Charles Morgan and Hubert Walker
coin a week notes to task on this, because uh oh,
what is a story that has a lot of a
lot of detail and a lot of nuance and they
condensed it into four paragraphs and some notes And if
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you don't really like reading the notes, you're not going
to learn anything from this. So I really think it
was a very interesting time in nineteen sixty four when
they decided to do the date freeze on coins. At
this point, there was more than a dollar's worth or
rapidly approaching more than a dollar's worth of silver in
a dollar's worth of silver coins, and so, you know,
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the United States government knew that they had to do
something about it, but they didn't know if people would
accept the non silver coinage. It was literally fiat current,
you know. I mean, it's just as it's worthless. You
couldn't melt it, you couldn't do anything with it, and
so they really didn't know if people were going to
accept it. Now, the article, you know, talks about the
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date freeze and talked about you know, they authorized the
date freeze in the summer sixty four, which is correct,
and it allowed them to strike coins with the date
of nineteen sixty four.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
After nineteen sixty four, and that was kind of half
of it.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
And then they need the Act the Coinage back in
nineteen sixty five to enable them to you know, change
the composition of the coins. So nineteen sixty five dated
coins in clad consistency. So that's old story. We know
all that kind of stuff. But the notes, and this
is what you're showing, which I like, is what is
interesting because if you notice the nineteen sixty four coins
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were struck all the way into nineteen sixty five.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
And even right here in nineteen sixty six for the dimes,
I feel like.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Dimes nineteen sixty six.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
What a lot of people don't realize is that in
nineteen sixty six they also struck nineteen sixty five dated
clad coins, so they didn't change the date on coins
until mid sixty six, and mid sixty six was when
they started when they stopped making silver coinage entirely, and
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they stopped making sixty fives.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
They made sixty.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Six coinage really for the rest of the year, and
regular coinage resumed in sixty seven as clad coins with
the new you know, fifty or forty half dollars.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
And then the nickel copper quarters and dimes, yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
And the copper quarters and dimes, And it's like, oddly
they froze the date on pennies and nickels, which weren't necessary.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
It was just kind of a.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I think a convention, right, you know, because there was
no need. But they did that as well. And actually
you'll find that the mintages on the sixty six coins,
even though it's still very very large, were the smallest
out of the three of sixty five, six and seven
when they were just absolutely trying to flood the economy
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with new coin right now. For a long time too.
You know, they've said, well, the coin collectors caused a
coin shortage, and coin collectors.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Oh no, no, no, yes we did.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
It's time we owned it because if you think about it,
you know, the people that were sticking away rolls of coins,
roll collectors, we're creating your coin short Oh.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
We still see it. To this day, not a day
goes by where I do not buy a coin that
was struck during this time period in the United States.
I mean literally every day in my office, I buy
one of these or hundreds of these. Still this many
years later.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
So so yeah, so they made one hundred and sixty
seven million nineteen sixty four dimes. Ear yeah, nineteen sixty
four dimes in nineteen sixty six.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
They could have laid this out a little better. It's
a lot of numbers running together.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
I mean, this is a really interesting story and it's
got a lot of meat to it, and I think
that this is this is great.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
One time I actually.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Sat down with the Coin World Almanac trying to figure
out what the exact dates were on when they started,
when they stopped, when they did, And this was when
I figured out that they made the sixty five coins
into sixty six.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Yeah huh, you know, but there.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
You have it.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
So it's like, you know, it's did you put this
up here for me to be a slam duncit?
Speaker 4 (27:12):
We can throw it on the rim for me to
slam it out. I don't know, but.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
It certainly would have been nicer if they'd spouted on
this sum or.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
Just you know, like I said, this here is very confusing.
They could have laid that table out a little bit better,
I think.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
So well till the coin shortage was resolved and the
issue was set to be revisible. So that's the news
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You're listening to the Coin Show podcast with Matt Dinger
and Mike Noteleman.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
So you've been getting any coin shows lately?
Speaker 3 (27:59):
By generally, I don't do a lot of shows because
that's not my gig.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
My gig is working the counter, all right.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
You occasionally get out of my cage and they let
me fly for you at shows, and it just so
happens that I will be at a show in a
couple of short weeks.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
What show is that?
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Let's see you Ever heard of the Central States Unismatic
Society No?
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Never, never?
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Okay, Well, this great group that holds the show in
Schomberg every year at the Renaissance Hotel.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
And it's like my buddy Matt and I.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Are always there and we're bumming around and we're you know,
doing things, making content, and we're easier to find than ever.
This year because Lost Dutchman Rare Coins will have a table.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
We are at table fifteen eleven. If you happen to
be attending and you want to swing by and say hi,
I will be at fifteen eleven.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
And Harlan J. Burke featuring Russ and myself will be
at four A.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
And the best part is the entire Coin Show crew
will be at this event. I think everybody.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Crew, everybody is Leanna going to be there. Yeah, everybody,
everybody here, So you're going to see a lot of us.
There are going to be special guest appearances by other people.
I hear Ben the coin Geek is going to be there.
So this is a really great show. Central States last
year was probably the biggest show other than the Anaides
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and it was huge.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
It was It was.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Really great, great turnout, lots of dealers, lots of good coins.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
This year promises to be better.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Yep. And well, while we're talking about coin shows, why
don't we just I figured I would rattle off the
upcoming shows that are tomorrow, the fourteenth of April here,
twenty twenty four. I have a little list of them
here though. These are upcoming local shows. The camel Back
Collectible Show in Phoenix, Arizona is tomorrow. The West Suburban
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Coin and Collectible Show in Country, Illinois is tomorrow. Seventy
First Street Coin and Currency Show in Indianapolis is tomorrow.
I will not be there.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
At the one in Countryside.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
There you go. The Greater Worcester Coin Shows in Auburn,
Massachusetts tomorrow. Royal Oak Metro Detroit Coin Show is in
Royal Oak, Michigan tomorrow. South Saint Paul Monthly Coin Show
See Burlington Coin Show Burlington Township, New Jersey tomorrow. Melville
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Coin Stamp Collectible Show in Melville, New York tomorrow. Wayne
County Coin Club Annual Show in Wooster, Ohio is tomorrow.
The O and R Coin Show is in Pittsburgh and
the mont Coin Coin Show is in Telford, Pennsylvania tomorrow.
So if you guys get a chance, go to a
local show. They're fun. You find all sorts of people there.
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You may not see meet new friends. You might see
Mike and I bumming around one of these shows. You
just never know.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Love to join, You never really know what you're gonna find.
That's right, and joined Ilna.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
I've joined uh U, C, S, N S.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
And AH A bunch of really good organizations of a
lot of really cool Oh and the oh, what is it.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
The the coin Club. I belonged to an Indiana. I
don't even live in Indiana. I belong to an Indiana.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
The Indiana State and Asmatic Association.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
No, no, it's a small town homart. It's the one
run by uh mister Eric Kittens.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
Oh Richmond, Richmond. Yeah, I did. They had a they
had their first coin show the other day and I
attended and it was great. It was a great show.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Yeah, they do. They do really cool stuff.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
All right, friend, Well, anything else you want to talk
about coinshow wise?
Speaker 4 (31:53):
No? Not really.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
I think that coin shows are are a really great
learning opportunity for you. The best part about is the
fact that you get to see things that you probably
won't see, You can handle things that you probably can't afford,
and you get a chance to look at a lot
of different examples of coins, and that really is the
best way to know what you know, what's going on
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and what's out there right.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
Coin shows are a great price to learn if you're
thinking about getting involved in a series and you want
to go out and look at these coins before you
start throwing your money down, it's not a bad idea
to get to a show, handle some coins, start playing
with them, get an idea what you're looking at, see
what you might like or what you might dislike. Sometimes
you can take a picture, look at a picture of
a coin on the internet, and once you get in
your hand, you're like, eh, maybe not so clubs.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
I want to do a little I want to do
a little shameless plug.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
Go for it, plug away friend.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
A couple of months ago, I kind of floated the
idea of starting an online coin club, and we went
through the trials and tribulations of trying to set it up.
We named it Yeah So the Collectors of Interesting Numismatic Stuff,
which is coins, and it is up and running I
saw that coins club group on Facebook. If you guys
(33:08):
want to join, all you got to do is send
a send an email, or just to actually go to
Facebook and try to join the coins club. We have,
we have leadership. Now, we have a president, we have
a schedule. We're gonna have our first meeting on April seventeenth.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
I love it. It is.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
It's starting to finally move. You know, it was it
was a slow process building. But we've got like seventy
five or eighty members already.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Wow, heck yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
So's it promises to be pretty interesting and I know that,
you know, this is going to be.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
What I like about the idea of the online coin
club is.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
That there's no duce. There's you know, none of that stuff.
It doesn't have all the five O'T one C three stuff.
So we don't have to do minutes, we don't have
to do.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
You're just there for the fun part.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
We get to do the fun stuff and leave it
at that. I like it a lot of the stuff.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
That we do, you know, so like we we meet
on zoom and so you know, yes, somebody donates that,
but you know it's that's not really a big donation.
And if everybody you know pitches in just a little
bit to help everybody.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Then we have a really cool club.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
Yeah. One other thing I wanted to mention a Central
States and then we'll get to the part of the
show where I kick your butt is my friend Melissa
Kahn messaged me the other day and at Central States,
the Women of Numismatics is having a meeting and Liz
Conkin is doing a presentation there. Her presentation is titled
(34:36):
Lady Liberty Real or Ideal and that's on Thursday at
four point thirty pm at Central States. The second of May,
I believe is when that is there, you go if
you guys would be interested in hearing that, and we'll
be at Central States. That's how you go and see it.
So all right, I'm gonna hit this button here real quick.
Let's see what not that one?
Speaker 2 (34:57):
And now for the coolest thing to walk in? This
week a competition segment between Matt and Mike to see
who's had the coolest thing walk into their shops. Who'll
win this episode? Let's find out Matt Mike, who's got
the coolest thing?
Speaker 5 (35:18):
You're a double dipper. You're a double dipper.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
I'm okay with that. I'm absolutely okay with that.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
I previewed My Coolest Thing last week during our actually
it was last show.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Yeah, it was during our Coolest Thing.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Put look, double Dipper only came back. It came back, grated,
it grated. Pcgs Per sixty eighteen cameo, this coin is
a one stuff.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
You've given it a name.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
We have. We have given it the name Phoenix Rising.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
And I mean for a target toned coin, I can't
say I've been a big fan of Tony right, say
I'm big. I'm a big fan of commemorative silver dollars. Yeah,
and yet here we are.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
It's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
It's just a smoke show, is I mean you take
a coin that on average, I don't think you can
get me to turn around and look at And I
mean you've elevated this just through natural toning to a
four digit coin.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Uh yeah, I would.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
Say probably for sure. I mean, don't get me wrong,
the coin is pretty It's just a darn shame that
it picked one of the ugliest coins ever to happen
on This is true.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
But if you're going to have one of the ugliest
coins ever, this is the way you want.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
To have it.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
Yeah, that's like having a proof like Susan B. Anthony
Doward though it's.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Like better yet though it at least just not the
Olympic side that's tone.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Just the eagle that's beautiful. So you know, look, this
coin is just it's striking. It really gets you. It
just has a look to it, and it's even more
vibrant in hand.
Speaker 5 (37:10):
Oh, I suspect definitely. I just like that you guys
named it. I think that's cool.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
And truthfully, in the deal that we bought this, there
were seven other sets with this silver dollar in it, right,
all stored exactly the same way in the exact same place,
and none of them, huh, single one of them were
toned like this at all.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
Sometimes it nature is mysterious when it comes to this
kind of stuff. You just never ever know. Very very
very cool coin. I'm going to show you the coin
I brought. And actually we have also named our coin.
His name is Larry Great Larry. Yeah. We woun in
(37:57):
nineteen sixteen d half in a piece, just green label
sixty four holder and it got acac sticker, quite pretty,
got a lot of luster, got a little bit of
just kind of muted toning, a little little purple.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
I'll let you know it's original.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
Yeah, let you know that it's not been monkeyed with,
and let me show you back here and there you go.
Pretty coin. So but I really liked these early coins
because the surfaces, the surfaces on these are just so
cool that they have that orange peel surface to them,
that kind of it's not quite smooth, it's it's very
slightly bumpy. It's cool.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
So want the reverse?
Speaker 5 (38:37):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Can you show us the reverse?
Speaker 5 (38:40):
I had it up? Yeah, sorry, there it is. There
we go, a pretty original survivor that has not been
monkeyed with. I just thought it was cool. So that's
my coolest thing. His name is Larry, Praise him.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Larry is is beautiful.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
Praise Larry.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Are you walking around in his dresses? Hey?
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Look a lot of things? So yeah, no, he's fine.
But does even compared to the Phoenix?
Speaker 5 (39:13):
So oh you guys, you guys even shortened the name
to the phoenix. Do you refer to it like that?
Around the office? You're like, hey, hey, this customer's here. Hey,
go grab the phoenix real quick so we can take
a look at it. Have you done that?
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Well?
Speaker 3 (39:26):
It's either that or say lude disgusting things. So yeah,
that's pretty much what we've done. Man, grab the phoenix
for me.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
You guys are dorks. You guys are dorks up there.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
Captain.
Speaker 5 (39:40):
Oh I know that. I know. My coin's name is Larry.
You're just Phoenix rising.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
My captain. Yeah, Larry wins.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
Oh well that's fun, all right, buddy. Well can you
believe it? We just knocked out another show.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Yeah, and I uh, I seem to like the shorter format.
It's kind of cool.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
It's just it's it's it's just is what it is.
It's just natural progression of things.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Hey, well, we got a lot to say. We'll be
here longer, that's right. This is not indugalt.
Speaker 5 (40:19):
No, and you guys will be seeing a lot of
content from me coming out at the show. I'm sure
Mike will be making some two. We're going to have
some friends up there that we are going to give
them some challenges and we're going to compete with them
at the show, because why not. Why not?
Speaker 4 (40:34):
You will have some swag to give away.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
Yeah, I'm bringing swag. I have new swag, so.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
I've got some old swag.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
Yeah, it'll be it'll be great. Just come by, come
by the table. Michael, have them, I'll have them, and uh, yeah, buddy.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
Come by and say hi and uh and check us out.
See Russ me.
Speaker 5 (40:52):
We have a gentleman stop by the shop this week
who left with a really nice lost Dutchman lanyard and
a bottle of spicy MIC's.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
So, in fact, I saw the post of that's not
the post of that on Facebook.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
It's like, I'll tell you what that spicy Bux is
getting scarce.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
It is. I have exactly two cases left, that's it.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
Yeah, well that's the case. And I have more than
I got.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
Well, when it's gone, it's gone. You know what I have.
I have my secret my office bottle. I keep right here,
just take a little nip when I need to the
shelf behind me. Yeah, oh, I see it. I see
it hiding there yet.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
That's funny what he knows about.
Speaker 5 (41:33):
That's the hidden secret model hide.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
And plain sight.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
So I guess that means that it's time to say
good bye, and fortunately unfortunately, Oh if you.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
Want to come just for the swag, that's fine, We're
cool with that.
Speaker 5 (41:46):
Come on, I'll mean there.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
So we want to thank everybody who has shown up
here in the YouTube chat, everybody shown up on Facebook,
all the people that contribute to the show, from the
Unnamed Soul to the Fuzzy Guy to what other nicknames
do we have?
Speaker 5 (42:08):
We can't say some of them.
Speaker 4 (42:10):
Well tell that's true.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
So thanks Barry, Thanks thanks Corey, and thank you Russ
and Leanna and everybody else who helps fix it as possible.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Thank you mostly to you who listened. Without you, we're
not doing this.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
So check out our website coach a Radio dot com
do not forget. You can find every single episode of
this show if you want to go back and listen.
Speaker 5 (42:36):
They're on our website.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
Yeah, we're on the website. I really, you know. We
had a comment from Tyler Block in the.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Chat tonight saying he's going back to listen to every
episode from the beginning, and he's on episode seventy five.
It's like if he can still keep a coaching thought
in his head after listening first twenty five episodes.
Speaker 5 (42:54):
Us, Hey, he made it's a seventy five. He's in.
He's hooked. I got it.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
It's not the easiest coming.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Yeah, if you if you joined your coins, you'd have
Larry Bird.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
Get it.
Speaker 5 (43:07):
Larry Bird. Oh my god, Okay, that's enough. I gotta
hit this button. We got to shut this thing down.
The jokes are getting bad.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
So long, everybody. Hey bye, everybody. We'll talk to you
next time.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
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