April 28, 2024 • 76 mins
Join Mike and Matt for another awesome episode of The Coin Show Podcast, where they delve into the fascinating world of coins and currency. In this exciting installment, they cover a variety of engaging topics:
- News in Numismatics: Stay up-to-date with the latest happenings in the coin collecting universe. Mike and Matt explore recent developments, news you should know, and noteworthy trends.
- Listener Show-and-Tell: Discover the coolest items that fellow listeners want to showcase. From rare coins to new favorites, this segment highlights the pieces that listeners are proud to share.
- Listener Questions: Mike and Matt address questions submitted by their audience. Whether you’re a seasoned collector or just starting out, their insights and expertise provide valuable guidance.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Coin Show.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Podcast, a podcast about coins and coin collecting from the
perspective of both dealers and collectors, hosted by two guys
with a passion for collecting and a combined experience of
over fifty years in the coin industry. Here's Matt Dinger
and Mike Noteleman on the coin Show Podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
And this is episode two thirty five of the coin
Show Podcast. For our brand new Palacious studios. I'm Mike,
I'm Matt.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Hello, fellow coin nerds and pilot everybody. Because there's lots
of room in the news studio.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
On this episode of the Coin Show, we will be
talking about your coolest thing. We're going to do a
big one tonight. It's been a lot of response. There's
a lot of people that want to show off and
we are all about that. We also will take some
live questions and uh, I think to it is going
to be an ask us anything. Oh, you can ask
(01:03):
us anything. We may not know the answer. We may
have to make something up or be willing to answer. Yeah,
but that's the way it is. First, as always, the news,
(01:27):
the news is brought to us by ankles. You couldn't
walk without them. Ankles.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
What it would not bend without your ankles. But okay, hey,
look man, their money is as good as anybody else,
definitely better than the excuses people.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
That's right, that check is still in the mail. Find
something good at so Red Rock Precious Metals company. They
are going to have to pay. I saw this story, big, big, big, big, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Thirty eight zero point nine eight million dollars in restitution.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, and disgorged five point one million dollars in ill
gotten gains and paid twelve point twenty five million in
civil monetary penalties.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I'll tell you right here. This is what gives the
good people in our business a bad name. Is people
like that. These people were predatory. They lied, they stole,
they took money that was supposed to belong to investors
and spent it on themselves. Terrible, terrible, terrible. And this
is this is the sad part, is this is getting
(02:37):
to be like once every year or so, another one
of these stories pops and we see it.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah. So they promised the world and really delivered nothing.
They did it with the red what was it, redtailed
hawk coins from the yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Canadian men, Yeah, the Canadian redtail hawks.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, and it's just a sad statement. In general, I'm
actually very glad every time I see something like this,
I'm happy about it.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Oh yeah, no, no, I love to see bad people
getting nailed. It's it's the best. But it just it's
getting old. I'm getting tired of reading about it, honestly, Like,
if I have to be completely frank, it's it's making
me a little sad.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah. And these guys are particularly bad because they prayed
on elderly people.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah, I mean, come on, guys, like that's the worst.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
The Bob R. Simpson Collection, Part twelve is going to
be featured at CSNS, so other than us, it's going
to be another feature act at Central State's coin. And
it's like, look at this gold piece. Yeah, I mean,
that coin's beautiful. Look at this thing.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I could just I could just look at coins like
this all the time.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
You know what My favorite part about this coin is,
what's that fifteen stars?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, I know, they're got all smash in there on
the right hand side. Well, they're smashing in on the
right hand side, and it's like and it goes on forever.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
On the left hand side looks like in a quarter.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that's the thing that that was.
That was how they did them at that time, at
that particular.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Time, they were going to add a star for every
state that joined the union.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Didn't They thought about it for a minute.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Well after the fifteenth, you know, after Tennessee, it was
kind of like, maybe we shouldn't do this. Yeah, maybe
it's not such a great idea. Huh. And then there's
a uh An eighteen sixty three proof what it is
a ten dollars Yeah, it's ten dollars sixty four cameo
light hair lines. Yeah, a few. I mean they're obvious. Yeah,
(04:53):
I'll think you're really you know, telling any stories on it.
But striking is really nice. Look at all the stars, Yeah,
very cool.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Have you ever had Have you ever held one of
these and looked at one point one of these blast
proof ones?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
The yes, I have, and they are absolutely stunning.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
They are. But they're weird looking.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
They are.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
It looks like the modern finishes that they do nowadays
on some of the stuff, except it with Don in
nineteen thirteen.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Well it looks rougher if you ask me, because like,
you know, what a lot of people don't understand is
it is that they did the blasting of these after
they struck them.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. But yeah, I've held a couple
of these at the shows. Every time I see one
in a case, I always ask to.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Look at it. Yeah, just because they're just so cool.
They almost look sandy. Yeah, well they stand bys.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
They're sand blasting, but I mean they have that just
really super rough and yet it doesn't really affect the
detail that much.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
It actually makes it pop a little bit. If you
look at her foot, yeah, she needs she needs pedicure
that If you look at there's an eighteen thirty nine
eighteen thirty nine go Breck dollar and copper.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
It's a pattern. Yeah, very cool, iconic design. Oh there's more.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Oh no, there is definitely more. There's a Continental dollar,
a Confederate cent. Let's see, that's gonna be a Confederate
scent pro sixty three.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
This is an original Confederate scent. So most people when
they think of Confederate sense, they think of the restrikes
that you see done with the canceled dies back in
the sixties. Well, this is an original. I think they
struck what fifteen or sixteen of these if I remember right.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
These were made in the late eighteen sixties, long after
the war was over.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
But what is known includes the fact that the total
struck in early eighteen sixty one was sixteen.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Wow. Good memory.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Yeah, and then they spit one in a tavern and
that's that's what they said was the discovery of the issue.
If you read this, So it's kind of like the
ice cream dime.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
And then Stella Stella street car name desire just in
case somebody didn't get the reference.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Eighteen thirty three, it's very desirable. Proof sixty six cam
c ACG.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yeah, Simpson has some great stuff. I'm not gonna lie,
I'm jealous.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I mean this small bust capped left yeah, wow, wow wow,
just the whole thing. It was really really great. So
this is a hell of a collection. In Mint News,
Proof products seem to be the number one selling things
and they're not really selling all that big, so that
means that things are slow at.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
The US Mint Well question, I was gonna say, they're
not really. They haven't really released a ton of products
so far this year, have they? The Proof set, the
silver Proof quarter set, the Proof quarter set, and the
I want to say, the Proof Silver Eagles, Yeah, right here,
the Wproof Silver Eagle. So it seems like pretty much
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everything they've released so far has been proof.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, congratulations set has a proof silver eagle in it. Yeah, so, yes,
there's that. And you know, the twenty three mint set
is a big seller because they didn't release it until
way at the end of the year.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yeah, but it only sold six hundred and nine pieces
for the week. That's a heck of a lot. I mean,
your your silver dollar, your your greatest generation silver dollars,
only twenty three thousand that they've made. Don't get me
started on modern commandments, buddy. I waded through a pile
of them today at the office, and I see why
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they're not doing so hot.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah, no, it's it's just silly.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah, the command dollars, I mean the program. I get
they mandated, it's a special interest thing.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
But man, I'm tired of them, and I'm tired of
the pattern of doing the whole silver dollar clad half dollar,
five dollar gold. I'm just it's it's it's worn out
because there are people that actually collect the five dollar
gold right and there are people that we'll buy the
silver dollars just to keep, but there's nobody that buys
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the clad halves.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Don't even get me started on those, buddy.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, I am trying. I'm throwing it out there.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
You know, I'm sure I am not taking that bait tonight.
Not gonna happen, all right.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
So the twenty twenty four Alabama Innovation Dollar, they say,
rockets to a strong debut, which is a really good
pun because Alabama is where the Saturn five rocket was developed. Yeah,
and it's on the coin of course, of course, so
you know, this was the rocket that took our men
into the moon. And so that's the first of the
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nobody knows anything about them innovation dollars. What well, I mean,
I can't even tell you what the other three are
going to be this year. This is the first one year.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
You want to hear something funny, But I haven't even
seen one yet, like in person.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, no, I can't say I have either.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Yeah, that's my point, Like we are you talking about
of all years any ever?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
None?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Okay, No I've seen them, Yeah I don't. No, I
haven't even had one in my hand yet.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
So I think that it's going to be one of
those hidden gems that is collectible by people long after
I'm dead.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
So it's really not going to help me at all
I think we thought about I think we thought that
about those first spouse coins too.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
We did, absolutely did. Yes, how did that work out
for it? Well? Here here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Would you like to have a bunch of half house
gold coins right now?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
At Yeah, and the twenty twenty five American Liberty gold
Coins silver metal candidates have been unveiled.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
This is the ultra high relief.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Whoa yeah, I mean just look at that. Look at
that kind of uh yeah, I think that's tag style, right.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I mean, I think it's cool. What I want to
different when I want it on a coin, and probably not,
but I mean, and then the one below it's kind
of cartoonish.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Well, the one that I really like, I don't think
they'll do. And that's the sunflower. I like that sunflower.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Which one is that? Let me keep going here? Oh yeah,
that is cool. They're getting kind of cartoony.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
On some of them though, yes, well, look they have
the opportunity to do that more.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Now this here they look like Disney princesses. Look at
look at the Liberty with the butterflies. Let's see here,
this one looks hand drawn. I mean I like the
Look at that.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
One that looks hand drawn, and then there's one that
looks more just traditional. The bell, you know, it's is interesting.
But I really liked the sunflower. Yeah, I think cool.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
This is the eagle here is cool. I mean there's
some cool stuff in here, but then there's some weird stuff. Yeah,
I can't figure out what the uh. And look at
this last one here down here in this corner. It's
got like a psychedelic like nineteen sixty nine. Uh, you
know hate ash music post.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
It does well, it kind of looks like a Grateful
Dead album.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
It does like that's exactly what it made me think of.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
No, but to be honest with you, I welcome this
kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Why not.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Hey, I'm not gonna buy one anyway, So there you go.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, they're not You're not the audience. Who am I?
Who am I to? You're probably going to take one
like AML O seven R thirteen C, which is a phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Over seven AML seven thirteen C. Yeah that was cool.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I like that. That's phenomenal. Yeah, I do you too?
Put that on gold and I'd be really really happy
you're gonna do Yeah. Yeah. Speaking in twenty twenty four coins,
the first twenty twenty four. Coin production is out, So
this is the lowest production, says twenty ten. Just over
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one point seven three billion coins in the last three months.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
First quarter production plummet, plummet. They say, yes, well, I
mean it's down quite a bit. Well, how do they
make any money doing that?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
You know, apparently we don't need the coins in commerce.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Well, I wonder why people are not using cash. They're
using Apple pay and zell and Venmo, and I mean
it's it's down forty eight point four percent from February
and seventy two percent from March. I mean people people
say that cash is on the way out cash.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I don't think that case. I just think that I
don't know, it's it's it's just not the right you know.
It's like traditionally, the numbers don't lie. Look at this chart. Yeah,
March twenty twenty three one point one eighty seven million,
and then March twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
That's a year one hundred and thirty two million. Yeah,
that's a lot. I mean, that's that's a difference. May
twenty twenty three was the number one ranked left.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
See, yeah, it's a weird one. But but they said
fifty three point seven percent fuewer and consents one hundred
percent fewer Jefferenson nickels. So they didn't make any nickels
and make any dimes. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's the thing.
Like I I kind of just another two thousand and
nine with the nickels and dimes.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Wow, it's it's looking like it might be. I don't know,
my friend, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
This is about as political as I usually ever get.
The Veterans National Medal has is going to be struck
by the United States. It's been authorized. I can tell you.
It's about time. The obverse of the medal depicts members
of the Air Cavalry on a hueye yep, So you
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know it. These people have long needed to be.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Honored, right and why not? Why not honor them? Well,
at least some of them are still alive.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Please, That's what I'm saying. It's like, if you honor
them after they all die, it really doesn't seem to
me to be that much of an honor.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Yeah, I know. So, yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
That's cool. And our next story shows you. You know,
this is what I think is going to be the
interesting part of Charles' reign. It's gonna be the different
portraits looks like he's got something going on almost, it's something.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
There's a there's a collection to be had here of
just different obverses of Charles with the different bust design
and some of them look really goofy, some of them
look Okay, his ear in this one is not so
prominent as it is on the other coins. If you
look at it. Oh, that's absolutely correct. They managed to
make you look at the face instead of the year,
(16:14):
which is I don't know what that means, but they
did it.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
But yeah, so I mean you don't think about this
that that his reign is likely going to be a
short one because he was old when he took the throne.
So yeah, this is going to be more of an
interesting let's see how it Because all the Commonwealth countries
do their own different buzz.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
It's not they all have to be approved by the crown, right,
it's not like the Royal mint mints. The coins for
all these different countries. They're minted by their own mints.
So there's going to be slight variations. I mean, I
think they kind of like the some of the coins
here in the States, you know, we get they get
a guidance of what has to be on it, and
then other than that, it's kind of sort of up
to them to do it the best way they see fit.
(17:03):
So that's why there's these variations.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know if you've seen the
new maple leafe the twenty four mayple leafs with him
on them. I have not got them yet. No, but
it's a completely different portrait than that which is on
the Britannia. The Britannia looks actually pretty decent.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Yeah, yeah, I don't like the portrait that's on it,
and this is another one that I don't.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Really think is too flattering. Yeah, yes, this is my opinion.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yeah, I agree, I agree with you, buddy. C C.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Grating has announced to launch, of course, of the sac
Registry finally. Yeah, so now there is going to be
uh a sac registry. Are they going to accept anything
but sac coins to do it?
Speaker 3 (17:50):
No, it's yoah yeah no they are. They're going to,
but they have to have a cackticker. Oh wait, hold
on wait, no, I'm reading the story here, so hold on,
I had rid this yet. What's more, In addition into
offering sets to the Loudcat coins, both graded and stickered
by us. Our registry role also allowed collectors to compete
with pcgs and MGC coins cac stickered or not in
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universal sets.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Okay, there's the news. You buried the deed. There you go,
there is the news. I like that because that's your
universal sets. And we'll see, because I have a feeling
that it is a universal set, will show the subtle
differences between the grading services. Yeah, yeah, cool, Well, there
(18:35):
you go. I like that. I like that a lot. Yeah, actually,
good job, guys. The ANA Summer Seminar is something that
I think personally everybody should attend if they can. It's
going to be this year from June sixteenth to nineteenth
for session one, in June twenty third to twenty six
for session two. There are different instructors for the classes
(18:59):
from week one to week two, which will vary, and
there is just a whole lot of learning going on.
There's a lot of networking going on. I attended both
the last two years and one of the things that
I made a point of doing was I sat with
different people every single meal, and so I got a
(19:19):
chance to you know, well that was because of your
odor mostly, Well, no, it wasn't it was me. It
wasn't that in Betty That's funny. So yeah, so you know,
it's they have advanced paper money, the modern minting process,
coin carving. So there's a hobo nickel thing in session one.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I've been a championship banknotes, all that stuff. I've been
a champion of the Summer Seminary for many eight years,
you know. I mean, there's literally anything you want to
learn about coins. There are the people there. They literally
gather all the most important people in the industry and
all the smartest people in the industry topics, and they
get him at one spot, and then they allow you
to interact with them and learn from them and listen
(20:05):
to what they have to say. So knowledge is awesome.
There's not a thing wrong with that.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
And it's it's never bad to make new friends in
this business. It's the connections that you make that that
might put you onto something that you normally wouldn't. Yeah,
exactly exactly. And speaking of Summer Seminar, one of the
greatest things about it is that they give scholarships. So
I think this year's have already been given. I'm not
(20:33):
sure the ANAS may have announced it, but this one
is a PNG scholarship. Ok. So this young numismatist from
Quarter Leon, Idaho, Donovan Floyd, is the winner of the
twenty twenty four PMG Annual Scholarship Award.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
So that's going to cover his airfares.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
His meals, his accommodations, everything for a session at summer seminar. Right, well,
that's cool. Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
And finally in the news, and I hope Jack doesn't
mind that, you know, I like to.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I kind of like to close with him because I
always see it as good news. Right. So Jack Young
has been doing so many articles now he's up to
his fiftieth COINWAK article on counterfeits five zero five zero wow. Yeah.
So Charles Morgan had the idea of asking if he
(21:29):
would do a column on the five or ten most
deceptive counterfeits he'd ever seen.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Which is funny because in this picture here that Jack
is showing, Charles is standing right there of course the right.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
And so Charles actually did. He went through and listed
the five. They are in reverse artists. So number five
was the seventeen ninety six set five large.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Sent I've seen this going in my hand. It's pretty interesting.
In this top one here, Yes.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
It's it's got really good color, a lot of things
that make it look really good, and you look at
it and it's really bad. An eighteen seventy two s
seeded half dollar.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Well, yeah, the thing that makes us really bad is
this was actually struck over a later date large scent.
You can tell by the star out here in front
of the mouth that it was struck over a large scent.
It's kind of hard for it to go back in time, right.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yep, And there it is in a wow.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
So Jack is kind of started like taking some shots
here because the one thing I know about Jack is
not very often do you see the actual coins in
the slabs, And this is a obviously counterfeit coin in
a PCGS genuine slab. Yeah, yep, yikes, bikes happens, yake
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spikes in eighteen seventy two sea half. I've also seen
this also in a PCGSS holder. It's quite scary. I've
had this point in my hand and looked at it
a few times. That winn was really scary.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
I want to see what Russ's opinion on it would
be in hand, because he knows a lot about seated stuff,
and I really really trust his eye and and there
are you know, there's some other coins that that made
his list. They were also the eighteen thirty six go
Breck dollar, and there was a seventeen ninety seven S
one nine large cent.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Yeah, there's that steak and gobreakder. I spent many an
hour trying to find these on the internet, and I
think I found one that had went through an auction.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
And that was what he considered to be the you know,
the top five most deceptive counterfeits that he had ever uh,
that he had ever encountered. And you know, we celebrate
the man's entire catalog, Yes, for sure. And that was
the news. And the news, of course, was brought to
us tonight by ankles. You couldn't walk without them, ankles. Ankles.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Well, do you want to check in with a chat
before we bang over to the coolest thing.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Well, let's check in and let's see how everybody's doing,
because man, we got a lot of people in here tonight.
We do. I like it.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
It's good to see you guys.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
So it's like, get your questions ready because we are
definitely going to answer you ask us anything.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Real quick news and then we'll get right on to
the coolest thing is the meetup for Central States. If
you guys will be attending Central States, I know I
would let you guys know that we win. Our meetup
would be We're going to have our meetup on Thursday night,
which is the second of May, in the hotel lobby
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of the Renaissance Hotel at eight pm Central time. Come
on hang out with us. I think it's also going
to coincide with the Collectors of Interesting Numismatic Stuff club.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
So the president of the Collectors of Interesting Numismatic Stuff
is in the audience tonight. That would be Stephen Mayer.
Yes and yeah, so he is going to combine the
meet and greets for that club and our our you
know group, because there's so much overlap and it's like
we can all just have a really good time. There
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is a big, big area for us to sit in
the in the Renaissance, so we don't even have to
sit in the bar. We can sit away from the
bar nicely have conversation and we can talk and you know,
there's plenty of seats. And if Spencer coming this year,
I know he's got a brand new baby.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
So unfortunately my big Spencer staying home with his brand
new little baby, I told him. Yeah, but yeah, that's
what it's gonna be. So you guys come hang out
with us, say hi, there will be plenty of listeners
to the show there and coin nerds such as yourselves
and us.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Come hang out, all right, hang out, all right? You ready? Yeah? Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Let me just get the things with the things and
the things ready here, Okay, there we go. All right, guys,
well this is your coolest thing.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
And here we go. All right, So Matt Porus starts
us off birthday gift from my mother for my mother
from her birth here. Oh that's cool. You you bought her
a nice on circulated nineteen forty nine a half. It's
got some toning. It looks like the bell lines are
(26:40):
actually pretty strong on this. Yeah, yeah it sure does. Okay,
very nice half Matt.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Thanks, Mark Sure is up next, he says, not a
great pick of my George Michael commemorative crown. I love
loved wayam when I.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Was a kid.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
And of course his majesty is on the other side. Wow,
I kind of like that.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Actually, see and it has to have his majesty on it,
because I.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Was going to say, there's a picture of it here right.
I was going to say, there's two queens on the coin,
oh man, But that's funny. Compare this design to the
one we were looking at earlier. How much more of
a jowl he has? How much bigger the ear is
on this one? And this is the Royal Mint issue?
I believe right?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
I think so because this looks more like his official portrait.
This looks like the one that's on the Britannia right.
George Michael looks stunning in this coin, but he was
a model.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
He looks like he's straight out of a nineties video game,
straight out of the nineties. To slab Daddy's up. Next,
he says something cool I recently got. This was the
original green being tagged from c ACS for year of operation.
So when they first started off and you got a
sticker on your coin, they would actually put this whole
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thing on the back, and everybody that I know threw
him away. So I think he's showing us that, hey,
there's a survivor out there. Slab Daddy's flexing. Yep, slab
Daddy flex.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Jody Dotson picked this up over the weekend at the
NWA show in Benton Phill, Arkansas.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
So hold on a second.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
So are we're talking about Oh, it's got to be
a Northwest Arkanshaw our Northwest Arkansas coin show.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Not not the musical group.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
They got that attitude. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
So this is a this a fifteen sixty shilling Elizabeth
the first VG eight, very very cool coin. Yeah, this
is a hammered coin. So it's like these are always
really cool. Yeah, and it's ass VG eight.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Up next, Oco says, sorry, I don't have a better picture,
but I picked up this bog version of the secondary
had dollar at the GNA show this past weekend. It's
made out of plastic. I have never heard of such
a thing. I would do this, what says Bog's money
on it?
Speaker 1 (29:18):
What it does.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
But it's also was made in nineteen eighty four, and
it appears to have the same design, or very similar
design to what we went with.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I think it's a classic re strike.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
I don't know if it is or not. I don't
know why.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
How would you have the second this? This was a
portrait that was designed by Glenna Goodacre. It was there's
no way that it can predate. I'm googling. There's no way.
I'm googling. And while you're googling, I will out of
everybody know that. Jack Young said he's saving his for
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Central States. Ooh, so I'm looking forward to that. I
saw the thing.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Okay, yeah, JSG bogs Second, wee hours. Let me get
this up on the screen real quick. I'm gonna pop
us over. Could you guys see that one?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yeah, you had it before it was better, you guys
can see it. Okay, So let's go here.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Yeah, this is the small dollars dot com website. Actually,
it's a really good reference. JSG box hours bogs bills
are collected around the world. Now JSG Bogs has moved
into the coin arena. Renowned paper money artist JSG Bug
created his version of the Sackadewee dour molded an orange plastic.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
His secondsists of six coins.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Each coin features a different datement mark nineteen eighty eight,
c h Fun nineteen ninety nine, b Fun two thousand
and j. Okay, so I bet that that is some
sort of like marking on the coin. Actually as to
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which one it is, well, yes, nobody tries to pass
it as an actual SACKI dollar.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yeah there you go.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Okay, well there we go. We found it very cool.
See now we learned. Everybody learned something together that had
no idea what that was.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I love learning. Yeah, I love this show for that, Jack,
Are you sure? Nothing new? But I had an opportunity
to have my mome Ohio collection paper and Civil War
tokens displayed at our local museum, and I jumped on it.
Side note, can't wait to find something in Central States
for next coolest thing? Uh?
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Oh cool j our presence says, So it's probably the
coolest find in a long while. A twenty hour bill
with two two to two to to to two two
for the serial number. Uh, pulled my money, pulled my
money out of the back machine for the week, and
noticed five of a kind of ascending order to two
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three xx. I'll bring new Chris bills. Took my chances
and it was skipping numbers. Buddy ended up with this note.
I will keep some of the bills near this order
he's sending. He can't decide if he wants to send
this one off or get it graded. Probably have that
note graded, especially if it's Christmas circulated. Solid serial numbers
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are worth a decent amount.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Fifty.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
I sincerely doubt that you're going to be able to
keep it because of the value.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Yeah, I mean that's it. If it's crispu on circulated
solid tudes that that note's going to fetch a good,
very good dollar.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
I mean it's in the thousands, believe it or not.
Not Hercules not something I would buy, but definitely in
the thousands. Hercules got any new lens for camera?
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I'm sorry. Hold on.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
He showed a picture of all the other notes he
got around the same time. It's pretty cool. Yeah, it's
got all the different denominations.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Sorry. Hercules has a Marty Grau token with backus. Wow. Yeah,
really nice toning.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
That is probably the most beautiful Marty Grau token I've
ever Should we name it?
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Sorry? Ha Seth Hanson nineteen twenty one. Morgan silver dollar
that I picked up at a show last year looks
proof like I'm thinking about resubmitting it.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Old on, I lost I got last year. Sorry about that,
miss click, I am back.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Seth Hanson nineteen twenty one. Morgan silver dollar that I
picked up at a show last year looks proof like
I'm thinking about resubmitting it.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
It does look proof, like these coins come a little proof,
like though they're really tough on actually calling them proof
like right, it's a hard thing to get on a
twenty one dollar but they do come semi proof, like
they really do. And that's a great example of it
right there. It's a great example of it. And to
be honest with you, the coin is fairly desirable. I
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can't believe they thread it. Yeah, that coin's better than
a three. It looks like I mean, obviously might make
a difference, but from the video it sure looks like
it's nicer than a three.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Yeah, cheek is pretty clean. Jeff Schmaltz pick this up
over the weekend. First CC, Morgan to my collection. There
you go, eighteen eighty two CC. That's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Everybody remembers their first CC. I sure do, even time
in the wild. Stephen Burton says, after a five year
hunt and losing and losing in several auctions, I was
able to purchase this signed Lesimicos Tetradram from Pergammon. This
example is among the finest style dies. Okay, so coin nerds,
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ancient coin nerds see are interested in sometimes the guys
that actually made these dies, because not all dyes are
created equal. In ancient coins, they have these things called
fine styles and these are basically like master artists that
that cut these particular dyes. They're much more desirable per
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se than other examples. So yeah, that's what that is.
And sometimes they would hide little symbols in them, uh
to to actually uh you know, put off. Yeah, the
problem the one that they were the one that carved
this die. So yeah, this one is very well detailed.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
And for the fact that it has such a deep obverse,
you know, that will make it harder and harder to
strike the details up on the reverse.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
So yeah, the reverses are pretty flat on these, they're
not not as nearly as deep like this.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
That's beautiful. Yeah, pretty coolin Dennis Mendoza common date and
the last one they needed to finish the series. So
apparently Dennis has a complete set of twenty lips. Yeah,
there's are tens. Oh I'm sorry, the glare got it
so I couldn't see the denominations.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
So this is an eighteen forty three oh oh oh
oh ten lib so see if you posted other pictures.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Nope, that's okay, yep. It's a beautiful coin and it's
in a PCGSS holder AU fifty three with a cacksticker yes.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Sir, Oh, good friend Arthur says scored this when last night.
Need to confirm the authenticity once in hand, but if
it's a genuine article, it will be my single best
margin purchase today.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Let's take a look. Holy cow.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Yeah, it sure definitely looks like a real holder. Definitely
looks like a genuine coin from this picture. Yeah, one
can only hope hopefully the lifting was genuine.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
If it is, there, you go. Yeah. Daniel Fiegel picked
up this dual error clip and off center for Michael
kittlerare Coins. It was a little out of both of
our normal swim lanes, but too cool to pass up. Yeah,
this is what I like when people just kind of
go out of their comfort zone and do something a
little different just because it's cool.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Sometimes something just hits you a little bit different and
you just never know what that's going to be and
when it's going to happen. And I'm I'm guilty of
that more than most people actually of buying something just
because I think it's cool. See Daniel also posted also
picked up my second coin from the former Washington Rainbows
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register set. It was a beautiful w quarter for a
steal in an an X lab very nice, very good.
It's a war in the Pacific Park sixty seven. And
he showed us the Washington Rainbows Point too, which is
nineteen forty four corner PCGS sixty seven plus plus.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Yeah, got of like that. Jack Riley altered date eighteen
fifteen large sent I've been looking for one of these
for a while AND's doubled across one. Since it's the
only year the US never made a cent. It's still
pretty cool. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
So there's how they took an eighteen four and just
lopped off part of that four and turned it into
an eighteen fifteen. Yeah, so it doesn't have the correct
type for either fourteen or seven or sixteen, right.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Jack Hill shows us an eighteen eighty eight seeded diamond
MS sixty two in GC with a cack sticker and
the coin's got some pretty peripheral tony with being mostly
white in the center.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
I think that's a pretty coin. Thank you for showing us.
It's a really old slab too, it is.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
It's an old fatty I think, old yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
N GC slab. Stephen Mayer picked up this nice boon
this month. Loved the old green holder too. So this
is in a what is a general the same generation.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
As the Rattler, So I'm not sure if this actually
is a Rattler.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
No, this is the Gen two. I can't tell. It
has those little dots on the back.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
I feel like this is right after the Rattler where
they put the little thing around the outside of it. Sure,
maybe not, it's hard to say. Let's see if you
post a picture of the back. Oh yeah, there you go.
Very very cool coin, that is. Malcolm says this too. Stever,
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coin was minted in the town of I don't know
how you pronounced this one, Gale. Well, it's gal Cylon,
so it's Gal. Who knows Gal? I would say Gal
in Ceylon seventeen eighty three by the Dutch East India
Company for about a decade before the Dutch lost the
island to the British. Obviously very functional design and it's
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still quite scarce in this condition. An interesting piece of history. Wow,
that is cool.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Dutch East India Company stuff is very very cool.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Some of it's super duper common and you can get
it cheap for really really high grade examples. I've never
seen this one before, so that obviously means it's probably
pretty rare because I've had a bunch of the Dutch
East India voc but yeah, that's super cool.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
I like that. So Brian Bass just acquired this neat
die adjustment strike, eager to hear Matt's take on these.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Okay, well, die adjustment strike is literally just that. It
is where they are making sure that the dies are
lined up properly in the press so they run a
couple of low pressure strikes just to make sure that
everything looks right before they turn off the pressures and
finalize everything and start striking coins. So that's exactly what
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this coin looks like. It looks like it was just
struck with a lower pressure before they really tighten everything
down and started firing off coins. So that is a
die adjustment strike. A lot of times they would do
that when they were switching out the dies when a
die broke or something or they you know, they had
to replace them. They do a couple of adjustment strikes
to make sure that they put it in right and
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got everything straight.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Then they were off to the races.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
There you go, Bob Brock says, and wanting to get
this one grated and hoping it will come back of
the F twenty a close call, but a big difference
from a fifteen. He shows us a nineteen twenty one
D Walking Liberty half dollar. Looks like a nice, wholesome coin.
I mean it's got some circulations, got a couple of
little marks in the field, but nothing distracting.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Yeah, I mean everything about it looks right. Yeah, you know,
I think I think it has a good chance. I
think it's the rooms are nice and full.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Yeah, my gut says it probably is a fifteen, but
I wouldn't argue with it in a twenty hold. Reason, Oh,
fifteen is still a nice coin for a twenty one D. Yeah,
tough coin for twenty one D. Most of those are
one flat.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Yeah, Kevin Balka pleasantly toned, excuse me, nineteen forty seven
s Philippines one up pesol and this one has more
really really nice target toning.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
I'm gonna say pleasantly toned an understatement. I think that
is amazingly tone that goes beautiful, just has that beautiful
rainbow target toning on the side with MacArthur, very very cool. Yeah,
Joshua Wright says, nineteen ten kind of you know, tea
pronounce that's right, T pronounces it so well, and I
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can't do it. I've pronounced that the ga I purchased
at the g NA show in Dalton last weekend. That
is a great design, I really design. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
It reminds me a lot of the Organ Trail.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Yeah, I mean it's it's libertod riding a horse or
Liberty riding a horse across the sunrise or sunset. Very
very cool.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
David Day's Hotel said, this is by far my coolest
thing I own, and it is a radar note.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
Radar Yeah, if you guys don't radar is it's a
note that reads the same forwards and backwards is nearly
a solid serial number is one all sevens and then
a one.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
That's cool. It is cool. And then he says this
coin is probably second which is an ancient not able
to attribute it though, because it's really rough, but it's
cool to have. Yeah heck yeah. And dream coin is
a piece of eight and he has one of those
as well.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Very cool.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
Oh, Michael Sturg just posted an air here we go.
My latest cool thing found coin roll hunting really coin
hunting cool. Even cooler is that I learned something new
what I thought was a grease air or die deterioration
may actually be a brock and strike on an early
stage struck through die cap. Yeah, this coin was struck
through a die cap, and you can tell that because
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of this kind of lump down here at the bottom.
The die cap was starting to come apart and the
metal was kind of pushing outwards and that's what leaves
that lump. So that is one hundred percent struck through
a die cap.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
And you know, just a little bit about those things.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
Couple things about a couple of things when it comes
to die caps. But yeah, pull that coin raw, honey.
That's awesome, very is awesome. That's a great find.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Yeah. We recently bought one of these over the counter,
and to be honest with the eye, made the grand mistake.
I threw it into the change bucket because the opposite
side is absolutely perfect. Yeah, they look and I can't
turn over to look at it, and you know, it's
like we found it and we graded it and it's yeah, Yeah,
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that was almost one of the biggest mistakes I've ever made.
It happens though. Gabriel Woodkowski. Recent finds from work includes
a first and third year Jefferson Nichols and a nineteen
twenty nine wheat penny.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Heck, yeah, you know, I found a lot of cool
stuff over the here is going through change Storge when
I was a cashier.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
Heck yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Clay Harlan says Australia's first Australia's first ever, of course,
P and C's first ever special edition worldwide P and
C fifteen P and C two cent group, the one
and only out with the pound in with a sense
officially authorized not of course in Mint records, as it
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was the only competition for the most historic change in
Australia's monetary policy. So what we're looking at here looks
like I'm not even sure what these are destinately, so
this is these look like first day covers from when
they were switching out the coinage from the pound to
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the scent.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
Okay, so it was going from pound based to decimal
coin Australion dollars. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
So it looks like he has one of each one,
or or looks like he's got a bunch of them
at least.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Yeah, that's cool, very cool tea. The silver stacker shows
us a coin ring that's made out of a libertud. Oh,
that guy likes his Libertods. So Libertod's always has.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
I wonder if he's going to be rocking that thing
at the coin show. You think, I don't know, we're
gonna We're gonna find out, aren't we.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
They are.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
Susan Susan Stole says, I just got this coin today
and it is a twenty twenty four Dragon of I
believe this is Australia. Yeah, I'm gonna say it's colorized. Yep,
colorized dragon in Australia. It's one dollar coin, one ounce
of silver with a really cool dragon. Yeah, because twenty
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twenty four is the ear of the dragonp Susan also
got this from the US Mint, and so it's a
Rosie the Riveter metal. Yep, us ment Rosie the River metal.
These are cool. Yeah. I like this design here on
the back with the ship and the airplane and the tanks.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
Really cool. Hey, here go, I'm gonna let you have
this on buddy. It's all you, okay. So justin Irvin,
it's a coin from the Trial of the Picks. It
is a twenty nineteen to one twentieth ounce silverproof Britannia.
So every year the Royal Mint submits all of their
coins should be examined by a judicial court. They test
the metals purity and quality using destructive means, and the
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process was invented in fourteen hundred due to a problem
with the metal content and purity being off regularly. So
it's my favorite nimismatic process because of the penalties. So
no king or queen wants their coin of the realm
to be, as far as you know, short.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
Change, right, So they want the coins to be what
they're supposed to be, right.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Well, they want them to be what they're supposed to be.
They want them to be well respected, and if you're
short changing people, it never will. That's an embarrassment. So
if they found that the coins were not the correct purity,
they would cut off the mentor's hands. Well who needs hands, right?
I mean they still do the trial of the picts
to this day. Now It's like, I don't know when
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the last time somebody lost their hands was. I think
that would be an interesting topic.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
Oh man, can you imagine they just drag him out
to London Bridge nowadays, lop his hands off right there
Mill Street up with his vunts. Bernie Brennan says, not
really big on constitution coins but this one had really
nice toning.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
I kind of like that one too.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
Yeah, beautiful coin. Yeah no, it doesn't need a name.
Oh I was gonna recommend Mustafa, Yeah sure, Marcus Davis.
My first coolest thing is my yearbook. I started collecting
in two thousand and four, so I thought it would
be fun to have a numismatic related people sign it
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for me. That's cool. He took a red book and
he has had all kinds of people.
Speaker 3 (48:54):
Oh wait, I see my terrible handwriting in there.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
Yep, Matt is in there. Yeah, suckers in their venturess Gibson.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
Sorry, I write like a seven year old Ever been o.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
It's just a thing.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
Then. The other coolest thing is this Morgan dollar with
a piece of the bag it came in. I'm not
sure the bagot came in. I just think it's a
bag of I think it's just a piece of bag coins.
That Yeah, that's cool though, I mean it's probably a coin.
It's probably a piece of a dollar bag. Which are
they're out there right?
Speaker 1 (49:31):
And it's possible that this coin may have spent some
time in this bag, but probably not if I was
a guessing man.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
Seth cecil says, I've been buying five hundred dollar boxes
a quarter lately. I'm on my third one, and every
box has given me two west point quarters each so far.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
Wow. Cool.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
I pulled these two twenty nineteens today, and I've only
gone through about through ten of the fifty rolls so far,
hoping to find some more and maybe some silver. So
they're still out there, they're still being pulled.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
That's all awesome. And he's been incredibly lucky because there's
an American National Park one there that seems to be
the one that everybody likes. Yeah, Corey Williams's flowing hair
half dollar was clearly someone's pocket piece for a very
long time. Wow, look at that thing.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
I know, I love flowing hair halves, and that kind
of edge is still all there and legible, and yeah,
you can still read the side lettering, but the rest
of it's just gone.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
That's so cool.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
Yep, there's so a little bit of luck left in
that coin.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
James L.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
Crandall says, my most recent ad nineteen fifty to nineteen
sixty three Franklin Proof half dollar set. I do have
the fifty six type one proof outside this set, as
well as the thirty five coin Business Strike collection. You know,
I will say, in modern ish coinage, this is one
of the most impressive capital holders that are out there.
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I've had a few of these. Every time I get one. Man,
if their coins are nice and white and flashy, that
set right there just looks cool. It's just one of
my favorites. A great so I love Franklin haves, particularly
when they have a little frost.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
To them, right, well, of course everybody does. You kind
of like them?
Speaker 3 (51:17):
Hey, Mary Swan the unnamed The unnamed source says, as
uh as clean and as white as an sq as
I've ever seen photos, don't do it justice? And he
shows us a nineteen twenty eight Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
Yep, that it is.
Speaker 3 (51:33):
It's got phenomenal luster and the coin looks to be
a smoke show.
Speaker 1 (51:38):
And last but not least, oh hey it's me. Oh yeah,
so you might as well go ahead.
Speaker 3 (51:43):
I haven't put a coin in my collection in years,
and by years, I mean like three or four years.
Speaker 1 (51:47):
I haven't bought anything. I just I can't.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
But this coin just slapped me in the face and said,
you know what, Matt, take me home. And I did.
I bought myself a nineteen sixty four triple struck obverse
die cap in an n GC MS sixty five red
brown holder. The coin is just so cool. This is
an obverse die cap. So this is one that actually
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struck stuck to the die and started smashing out coins
right here on the back you can see. So this
caused something similar to this caused this coin up here
we were looking at earlier. This coin right here was
actually struck by a coin like mine that was stuck
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to the die, and that's what causes it. But the
cool part about this one is this coin looks like
it was struck two other times before it became stuck
to the dye. So this coin is just a big
hot mess. It's just one planchet, so it actually gets
really thin. And the cool part about it is right
in front of his face, there's actually a little hole
where this coin was starting to come apart from the
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stretching and the pressures. So very cool. Oh yeah, and
that's the best part. It's purple. It's just a cool coin.
I had to add to my collection. I wanted to
participate in the coolest thing myself. There you go, why not,
that's it, buddy, So.
Speaker 1 (53:19):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (53:20):
That leads us to Q and A. You're going to
do a little bit of ask us anything.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
That means that you can ask us any question there
is uh, you know, that's why is the sky blue?
It doesn't matter, and we have to give you an answer. Okay,
it doesn't have to be true. We just have to
give you an answer. Okay, Well, let's go. Our men
behind the glass are going to pop up the questions
for it so we can all see it.
Speaker 3 (53:50):
And let us know what is going on. It looks
like we may have lost or one of our lot,
one of our guys behind the glass. Oh, there we go,
there we go.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
So leanne Wirik. If each of you could buy two coins,
one American coin one foreign coin for your personal colluestion,
regardless of price, what would they be? Go ahead you first?
Speaker 3 (54:14):
Okay, so foreign coin. I would like to have an
Athenian owl. Beautiful.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
I love those things. They're really nice. It's an ancient
coin and UD has a lot of detail. Really beautiful coin.
I think that would be what i'd want. Yeah, yeah,
you let us coin. If I could have anything that
I wanted, I would probably have an eighteen oh eight
(54:42):
five dollars gold. Look at you digging down deep. It
is the entire bust on the coin. It's a one
year type and just absolutely magnificent. Yeah, those are cool.
Those are cool.
Speaker 3 (54:57):
Well, I'm going to be a little more generic and
I answer I would go with the world's most famous
gold coin, which would be the idmar oh okay. And
then I would go with the world's most famous American
gold coin, which would be the thirty three Saint.
Speaker 1 (55:11):
You know, just nothing, you know, I've had one of
them in my hand, I know.
Speaker 3 (55:16):
Is that cool? Yes, I like, it's very cool.
Speaker 1 (55:19):
One of them is a three million dollar coin, and
one of them is a thirty million dollar coin. Maybe, yeah,
something crazy like that. Something crazy like that. At owings,
when I hear dealers say they're going to sell to
a wholesaler, who are the wholesalers just curious? Matt uh. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (55:39):
So there are in this industry. There are a lot
of people that you have never heard of before, and
you will never hear of. These are the men behind
the curtains that make the coin industry go round. These
are guys that sit in offices all day that have
no retail presence. What they don't want to deal with
(56:01):
the public. They're not going to deal with the public.
They are strictly the middlemen, the movers. They are the
guys that go out and find this stuff and then
they move it to the people that need it.
Speaker 1 (56:14):
What they are really really good at is they are
good at flipping stuff fast. So they take it in,
they take it off the hands of people that don't
want it, and they move it on to people that
do and they do it very fast, and they make
money in the transaction.
Speaker 3 (56:28):
And sometimes it's not fast. Sometimes it takes time.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
Yeah, so that can be true too.
Speaker 3 (56:33):
But sometimes what they do is they'll organize, say, say
a dealer puts out a buyod for Hey, you know,
I have a customer or an IRA customer or an
IRA you know corporation that wants to put money into
an IRA and they need one hundred and fifty four
(56:53):
piece gold proof sets for their IRA. Well, that company
then reaches out to a wholesaleer and it's like, hey,
I need these, and then that person, the wholesaler will
go out and.
Speaker 1 (57:03):
Try to find them and find them and find them
and then sell them to that company.
Speaker 3 (57:06):
So it's basically just the big coin vacuum cleaner, and
there's whole wholesalers for everything. There's wholesalers from everything from
wheat sense all the way up to you know, twenty
thousand dollars coins. They're out there. They're just not people
that choose to do business with the public. They're strictly
dealer to dealer and actually a lot of them, depending
(57:29):
on the states that they're from, aren't allowed to deal
with the public if they're in a wholesale capacity.
Speaker 1 (57:34):
So there you go. That's who they are. Paul Bloom,
how can you tell the difference between a die adjustment
strike and a week strike? Paul is out there throwing questions,
she's trolling. I know she is. She does about the
stuff that we do.
Speaker 3 (57:52):
She does, And the answer is, you really can't it
just the grading companies, you know they I would say,
my answer would be the general weakness towards the edge
of the coin versus the center of the coin. Because
of the way that the coin is, the pressures are struck.
But at the end of the day, unless you're standing there,
(58:14):
you probably can't really.
Speaker 1 (58:15):
Tell for sure. And I think for in order for
them to call it a die adjustment strike, it has
to be relatively close to mins state.
Speaker 3 (58:25):
Yeah, relatively yeah, I would say that's well, if you
wouldn't be able to.
Speaker 4 (58:29):
Tell, it's possible, that's possible. One of the questions that
on it, and I even like it.
Speaker 1 (58:40):
Yeah, should the nineteen thirteen Liberty had Nickel be legal
to own even though it was never officially released by the.
Speaker 3 (58:46):
Minute, Well, they've never gone in after them, so well,
what's your opinion on should it be?
Speaker 1 (58:53):
I mean, they.
Speaker 3 (58:58):
If if they're setting a precedent with the Langs Boards,
you know, thirty three Saints, then no, they should not
be legal to own because if they didn't release it,
then it was stolen, wasn't it. I mean, how else
do you get it unless it was gifted to you
by the person making it. I'm not sure that those
coins were, so.
Speaker 1 (59:21):
I think that if you're going to be confiscating thirty
three double eagles, that there's no way that these could
be not confiscated.
Speaker 3 (59:30):
I just don't think so.
Speaker 1 (59:31):
But my opinion is that they should all be out
there and they since they exist, they should be legal
to own. Well, sure, I are ways of disincentivizing, you know,
because that's what they're trying to do. Is they're trying
to make sure that people don't create more of these things,
more of these instant rarities. And I agree with they.
Speaker 3 (59:53):
Don't want to mind employee, Like, maybe I should make
something of it.
Speaker 1 (59:58):
In nineteen twenty or a twenty twenty five type one
gold eagle. That'd be really cool, right right, yeah, So
stuff like that. So, I mean my opinion on it is, Look,
it exists, it's out there. You should be able to
own it. The Langboard family should be able to have
their double eagles, and we should see all of them
that are still out there, right, let's get them in
(01:00:20):
people's hands collections. Yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
They're they're sticky on those for some reason. It's weird
and on some.
Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
And not others, which is just to me absolutely insane. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
You know, why are the aluminum scents legal to own?
Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Yeah? Because somebody claimed that they found one on the ground.
Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
I guess justin Irvin, Mike and Matt would coin to
either of you, wish you could get back. I speak Siri.
I don't have any none. I don't want them back.
Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
I once had a nineteen twenty two no D strong
reverse in x F forty. I wish I could have
that coin back. I think Richard knackbar for one thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
Say I bought I bought a coin for me. I
think it was a three legger though, wasn't it what
I think I bought a three legger from you at
one point?
Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Yes, you bought a three legger for me that had
a gigantic stable scratch in the back. That was a
shame it was. It was a nice coin. I bought it.
Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
I didn't see the scratch. That was like one of
my biggest learning experiences of all time. Yeah. The way
I look at it is now, I don't want any
of these coins back that I've had. There's nothing that's
just like stuck in my head because you know, I
got to I got to be the caretaker of it,
or it was in my collection.
Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
Yeah, I would say to a certain point and move on. Yeah,
there's a bigger another one, different coins down the road,
you know, Yeah, Sturge's coins.
Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Do you know of a reference for markers on the
twenty two no D link consent?
Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
I found one of a role not magnetic ways correct,
but I suspect it's a China special. There is a
very good piece in the PC PCGS Guide to Counterfeit
Detection and uh Coin Grading and Counterfeit Detection. The PCGS
book has a nice piece on it, but I will
also tell you that if you go to Lincolnsentresource dot
(01:02:19):
com you'll find all the markers there.
Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
Yeah, I was just going to pull that up. Actually,
let's just do it together. Sure, sorry googling here, There
it is, Okay, let me add this real quick.
Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
I'd really like to know what your guys thoughts are
on tonight's show how it sounds, because that was the
primary driver of this. So I want to hear from
our people that listen on audio only. I want to
listen to people that have been through a lot of
these changes with us, from you know, way back when
until now. I'd really like to hear your opinions on
(01:03:00):
what you think of this particular platform and how it
works for you.
Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
So yep, here we are at the Lincolntent Resource website.
Over here on the left, you see this twenty two
No D and week. These there are seven different die pairs,
some aer week, some are strong, but if you go.
Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
There's really only one that matters. It's number three. Yep.
Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
If you scroll down here you will see the photos
of the different die pairs. And no, it's number two,
by the way, buddy, Well it's die pair two, but
it was number three on that list. Oh yeah, I'm sorry, yep,
but yeah, you scroll down here, it will show you
all these things to look for. Die pair two is
(01:03:41):
pretty simple, really, if you look at the overge of
this coin and actually, you know what, We're gonna go
to PCGS and.
Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Get a yeah, I get a plate coin because it's
so obvious when you're looking at a really nice version
of it.
Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
We're gonna get a coin faction. I'm gonna pull up
a nice big picture verifying you are. Hum I, well
it was when I woke up this morning.
Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
Well I'm not so sure anymore. I'm so sure anymore. Yep.
Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
And this is really cool, guys. If you if you
don't do this, you should. PGS really does a service
by putting out these really high quality pictures of the
coins that they've graded. And so yeah, this is this
is a twenty two stronger verse and this is the
one that you want. And the way you can tell,
(01:04:27):
the really easy way is to look at in God.
We trust in God. We is really soft and mushy
compared to the word trust, which is pretty strong. Uh.
And then also the H L, I, B E and
liberty is really really weak usually, and then rt y
is usually pretty strong.
Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
The second two in the date is absolutely your giveaway. Yep.
Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
And that was what I was going to get to last,
is the if you look at the date in most coins,
this coin is a super high grade m S sixty five.
Most years are not going to be uh. But the
one in the first two are going to be much
weaker than that second two. And if we go over,
let's a few more images and scroll down to a
(01:05:08):
circulated one so we can get a better idea.
Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
Here's a VF thirty. Let's pull it up. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
I think it's a better example because it'll show after
a little bit of where maybe if my internet wants
for their website wants to help me out here, Oh,
here we go, here we go. So as you can see,
this is a a what grade is this coin? Two
is where I really like to look because it just
looks as a different date.
Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
So I look at trust two and then ty. You
can authenticate in that fast trust to ty and.
Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
Then you turn it over and if the coin looks
like a brand new reverse. That's die pair two. Yep,
that's die pair two. That's the one that matters. And
there you go.
Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
That is how you authenticate nineteen twenty two stronger verses.
M Nicole Mauser, what's your favorite coin show to set
up at an sell? Well, it's a great question. The
A and A is always great. It moves around, though,
so that show's kind of hit or miss. I do
(01:06:15):
like this show coming up next week, though, Central States
in Schomberg is probably my favorite show of the year.
Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
And I don't necessarily like setting up at shows. I
like going new shows, but I don't know. I like
to walk the bors. I just do. That's what I
like to do.
Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So any for me, any show will do.
Yeah yeah, but yeah, Central States for me is kind
of the show that I like the most, and it's fun.
Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
This year.
Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
I've got a guy that has never been on my
side of the table doing the show with me before,
so he it was a greater for many years at PCGS,
but he's never been on the dealer side of the table.
So we're going to do show together and I get
to to have that experience with him. So it's gonna
be fun.
Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
That'll be cool. Yeah, I am throwing in your first
in your personal collection. What's your favorite coin and why
go for it? Let's see my favorite coin right now,
because it changes from time to time. Is I bought
an Oregon Trail last year and it's circulated and toned
(01:07:27):
and just really beautiful and not particularly valuable, just nice.
Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
Yeah, and mine is when you saw earlier, my new favorite,
my nightcap. It's literally within reaching distance. I mean, that's
how much I like it.
Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
It will be for a while a little bit away.
Arthur Valentine clearly using obs We're not Nope, and I
can see it here a way higher quality. Can you
please recap your Central State show plans? So so you're saying,
Arthur that this is better qual thank you cut. Oh
(01:08:06):
you stuttered right in the middle of that.
Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
Yeah, so famous last words. Anyways, so it seems like
this is the one that we were we're working on
that part too of this month. We'll just put it
to you that way, Mike said. Mike told me earlier
that we're working on that part next.
Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
So there you go.
Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
Yeah, uh, and then recap the c S n S plans.
Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
So our our plans are going to be for a
meet and greet on Thursday night at eight pm centralm
Central at the bar. H Well, it's going to be
outside of the bar, but you kind of meet around
the bar in the lobby outside of the bar at
the Renaissance. So that's floor. It's not on the main floor.
Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
It's on the second Yep, that's the hotel that's connected
right there to the show. Just walk around there and
you'll you'll probably hear Mike laughing because we laugh a
lot when we get together, Yes, we do.
Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
And then as far as to show itself, Matt is
going to be at table fifteen eleven fifteen eleven, and
then Harlan Burke will have both an Ancient table, Ancient
World table and a US table. Russ will be at
the US table. I will be at the US table
from time to time. But somebody has to stay in
mind in the shop we are going to. I will
be there all day Friday, and.
Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
All day Friday, we're gonna be running around causing havoc.
I guess we are going to We're going to cause trouble.
Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
Yeah, we're going to get in trouble probably no, maybe JH.
Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
Yeah, Stephen mayor, what can we bring to the party.
To the party, just bring yourself, have fun, smile and face,
and we'll have Originally I had floated the idea of
maybe doing a barbecue. I don't think it's going to
work this year because of a short notice. But you
(01:09:56):
know what, Steven, I may have something for you if
you really want so break some turkey legs.
Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
Well, friend, you want to wrap it? So wait, Jack Riley,
we'll get this the last one. Jack Rivey says, the
coolest VAM you guys have ever had in your shop.
Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
I like vams.
Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
I can't say it's it was a VAM, so I
would I would classify this just as a die variety.
There was an eighteen sixty one oh half that we
had in our shop, okay, and it was the spirit
Olive variety.
Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
Oh the Confederate strike correct.
Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
So I thought that that was really cool that you
could you could actually.
Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
Date the coin to being made under the auspices of
the Confederacy simply by the die clash that.
Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
Was on there. That's cool. Yeah, I like that too.
One second here, I'm trying to see if I can
actually find a picture of the VAM my favorite, the
best VAM that I ever had at my store.
Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
Ah VAM bam, thank you, ma'am. Well that's not what
I wanted.
Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
Tell you what coolest thing dragged us along tonight. But no,
that's okay, No, I'm happy to provide it. There's no
picture of it. Unfortunately PCGS graded it. Anyways, the coolest
VAM I ever found. I was walking around a coin
show and I looked down in the case and I
saw one of those sets that has the five different
silver dollars and it has the you know, the I
(01:11:34):
think it was an eighteen seventy eight set. It had
the overdate with the tail feathers, it had the s,
it had the CC I was looking at in it,
and I bought it after a while, and I flipped
over the eighteen seventy eight s and noticed that it
was kind of funky over you know, the tail feathers.
(01:11:56):
So I started looking and it turned out that it
was the VAM forty four, which is called the King
of Vams. This coin was mint state I think, I
think a grated MS sixty three, and we got a
boatload of money for it back in the day.
Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
So yeah, it was cool. That was a cool piece
beat related and.
Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
I found out just walking around a little local coin show.
So they're out there.
Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
So Arthur Valentine ass on Thursday. I'm sure. Go ahead,
Arthur Valentine ass, should we have a live Coolest Thing
on Thursday. I will tell you that it's all. You're
always welcome to bring anything that you purchased at the
show or that you just wanted.
Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
Us to look at or show off. Uh you know,
Sean tells, just part of being in the show. Heck, yeah,
bring it. We'll do a live one. We'll do a
live Coolest Thing, because why not. We'll do it live,
all right, buddy, Well you ready, Yeah, I am ready.
Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
This has been uh, this has been really cool and
uh good turnout. So uh let me start by saying
thank you to everybody who showed up tonight and ask
your questions people send it to the Coolest Thing. I'd
also like to thank our men behind the glass tonight.
So we had justin Irvin and the unnamed source Berry Swan.
They were doing a bang up job of helping us
(01:13:15):
put this together tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
Our thanks to uh, to Ernesto and to Corey and
to Leanna for all the stuff that they do and
to Russ or just being Russ and uh no show
next week because we will be live, and then the
week after that will be a Coin Show hangout. With
(01:13:40):
this new format, I think the Coin Show Hangout, it's
gonna be a wild time. I would not recommend bringing children,
no the first time. I'm not gonna sway for the chandeliers. No.
But I also expect guys to see some content from
the show. I know, I have a couple of videos
that I want to make. If they don't throw me
(01:14:01):
out for doing it, we're gonna try and see how
it goes.
Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Yeah, and then we'll meet with people, and we'll meet
with you know, experts and things like that and just
try and bring in some really cool content.
Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
You might see some other YouTubers that you watch one.
Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
Yes, you've made very well. You may see Tee the Silverstacker,
who is actually now you know he's he's revealed his face.
He doesn't want to do it all the time, but
I mean there's visual evidence of what he looks like.
Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
Yeah, and we have a friend from Tucson flying in. Yes,
Bendicoin Geek is coming. He is gonna be a lot
of fun.
Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
Yeah, we got all kinds of friends coming to join us,
so this is really cool time.
Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
So we're gonna use an opportunity to make some fun
content for you guys.
Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
There you go. Yeah, so thank you again to everybody
who came tonight. Thank you for listening, and uh, send
me your comments on this new format mikey cooinshowradio dot com. Yeah,
do that. Let me know what you think and any
new ideas that you have that you'd like to see
(01:15:02):
us do. So for the Coinshow on Mike and I'm Matt,
We'll talk to you next time. Episode two thirty six
of the coin Show podcast.
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
Podcast, a podcast about coins and coin collecting from the
perspective of both dealers and collectors, hosted by two guys
with a passion for collecting and a combined experience of
over fifty years in the coin industry. Here's Matt Dinger
and Mike Noteleman on the coin Show Podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
And this is episode two thirty five of the coin
Show Podcast. For our brand new Palacious studios. I'm Mike,
I'm Matt.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Hello, fellow coin nerds and pilot everybody. Because there's lots
of room in the news studio.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
On this episode of the Coin Show, we will be
talking about your coolest thing. We're going to do a
big one tonight. It's been a lot of response. There's
a lot of people that want to show off and
we are all about that. We also will take some
live questions and uh, I think to it is going
to be an ask us anything. Oh, you can ask
(01:03):
us anything. We may not know the answer. We may
have to make something up or be willing to answer. Yeah,
but that's the way it is. First, as always, the news,
(01:27):
the news is brought to us by ankles. You couldn't
walk without them. Ankles.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
What it would not bend without your ankles. But okay, hey,
look man, their money is as good as anybody else,
definitely better than the excuses people.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
That's right, that check is still in the mail. Find
something good at so Red Rock Precious Metals company. They
are going to have to pay. I saw this story, big, big, big, big, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Thirty eight zero point nine eight million dollars in restitution.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, and disgorged five point one million dollars in ill
gotten gains and paid twelve point twenty five million in
civil monetary penalties.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I'll tell you right here. This is what gives the
good people in our business a bad name. Is people
like that. These people were predatory. They lied, they stole,
they took money that was supposed to belong to investors
and spent it on themselves. Terrible, terrible, terrible. And this
is this is the sad part, is this is getting
(02:37):
to be like once every year or so, another one
of these stories pops and we see it.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah. So they promised the world and really delivered nothing.
They did it with the red what was it, redtailed
hawk coins from the yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Canadian men, Yeah, the Canadian redtail hawks.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, and it's just a sad statement. In general, I'm
actually very glad every time I see something like this,
I'm happy about it.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Oh yeah, no, no, I love to see bad people
getting nailed. It's it's the best. But it just it's
getting old. I'm getting tired of reading about it, honestly, Like,
if I have to be completely frank, it's it's making
me a little sad.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah. And these guys are particularly bad because they prayed
on elderly people.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah, I mean, come on, guys, like that's the worst.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
The Bob R. Simpson Collection, Part twelve is going to
be featured at CSNS, so other than us, it's going
to be another feature act at Central State's coin. And
it's like, look at this gold piece. Yeah, I mean,
that coin's beautiful. Look at this thing.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I could just I could just look at coins like
this all the time.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
You know what My favorite part about this coin is,
what's that fifteen stars?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, I know, they're got all smash in there on
the right hand side. Well, they're smashing in on the
right hand side, and it's like and it goes on forever.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
On the left hand side looks like in a quarter.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that's the thing that that was.
That was how they did them at that time, at
that particular.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Time, they were going to add a star for every
state that joined the union.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Didn't They thought about it for a minute.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Well after the fifteenth, you know, after Tennessee, it was
kind of like, maybe we shouldn't do this. Yeah, maybe
it's not such a great idea. Huh. And then there's
a uh An eighteen sixty three proof what it is
a ten dollars Yeah, it's ten dollars sixty four cameo
light hair lines. Yeah, a few. I mean they're obvious. Yeah,
(04:53):
I'll think you're really you know, telling any stories on it.
But striking is really nice. Look at all the stars, Yeah,
very cool.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Have you ever had Have you ever held one of
these and looked at one point one of these blast
proof ones?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
The yes, I have, and they are absolutely stunning.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
They are. But they're weird looking.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
They are.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
It looks like the modern finishes that they do nowadays
on some of the stuff, except it with Don in
nineteen thirteen.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Well it looks rougher if you ask me, because like,
you know, what a lot of people don't understand is
it is that they did the blasting of these after
they struck them.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. But yeah, I've held a couple
of these at the shows. Every time I see one
in a case, I always ask to.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Look at it. Yeah, just because they're just so cool.
They almost look sandy. Yeah, well they stand bys.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
They're sand blasting, but I mean they have that just
really super rough and yet it doesn't really affect the
detail that much.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
It actually makes it pop a little bit. If you
look at her foot, yeah, she needs she needs pedicure
that If you look at there's an eighteen thirty nine
eighteen thirty nine go Breck dollar and copper.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
It's a pattern. Yeah, very cool, iconic design. Oh there's more.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Oh no, there is definitely more. There's a Continental dollar,
a Confederate cent. Let's see, that's gonna be a Confederate
scent pro sixty three.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
This is an original Confederate scent. So most people when
they think of Confederate sense, they think of the restrikes
that you see done with the canceled dies back in
the sixties. Well, this is an original. I think they
struck what fifteen or sixteen of these if I remember right.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
These were made in the late eighteen sixties, long after
the war was over.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
But what is known includes the fact that the total
struck in early eighteen sixty one was sixteen.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Wow. Good memory.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Yeah, and then they spit one in a tavern and
that's that's what they said was the discovery of the issue.
If you read this, So it's kind of like the
ice cream dime.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
And then Stella Stella street car name desire just in
case somebody didn't get the reference.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Eighteen thirty three, it's very desirable. Proof sixty six cam
c ACG.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yeah, Simpson has some great stuff. I'm not gonna lie,
I'm jealous.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I mean this small bust capped left yeah, wow, wow wow,
just the whole thing. It was really really great. So
this is a hell of a collection. In Mint News,
Proof products seem to be the number one selling things
and they're not really selling all that big, so that
means that things are slow at.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
The US Mint Well question, I was gonna say, they're
not really. They haven't really released a ton of products
so far this year, have they? The Proof set, the
silver Proof quarter set, the Proof quarter set, and the
I want to say, the Proof Silver Eagles, Yeah, right here,
the Wproof Silver Eagle. So it seems like pretty much
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everything they've released so far has been proof.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, congratulations set has a proof silver eagle in it. Yeah, so, yes,
there's that. And you know, the twenty three mint set
is a big seller because they didn't release it until
way at the end of the year.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yeah, but it only sold six hundred and nine pieces
for the week. That's a heck of a lot. I mean,
your your silver dollar, your your greatest generation silver dollars,
only twenty three thousand that they've made. Don't get me
started on modern commandments, buddy. I waded through a pile
of them today at the office, and I see why
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they're not doing so hot.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah, no, it's it's just silly.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah, the command dollars, I mean the program. I get
they mandated, it's a special interest thing.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
But man, I'm tired of them, and I'm tired of
the pattern of doing the whole silver dollar clad half dollar,
five dollar gold. I'm just it's it's it's worn out
because there are people that actually collect the five dollar
gold right and there are people that we'll buy the
silver dollars just to keep, but there's nobody that buys
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the clad halves.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Don't even get me started on those, buddy.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, I am trying. I'm throwing it out there.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
You know, I'm sure I am not taking that bait tonight.
Not gonna happen, all right.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
So the twenty twenty four Alabama Innovation Dollar, they say,
rockets to a strong debut, which is a really good
pun because Alabama is where the Saturn five rocket was developed. Yeah,
and it's on the coin of course, of course, so
you know, this was the rocket that took our men
into the moon. And so that's the first of the
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nobody knows anything about them innovation dollars. What well, I mean,
I can't even tell you what the other three are
going to be this year. This is the first one year.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
You want to hear something funny, But I haven't even
seen one yet, like in person.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, no, I can't say I have either.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Yeah, that's my point, Like we are you talking about
of all years any ever?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
None?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Okay, No I've seen them, Yeah I don't. No, I
haven't even had one in my hand yet.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
So I think that it's going to be one of
those hidden gems that is collectible by people long after
I'm dead.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
So it's really not going to help me at all
I think we thought about I think we thought that
about those first spouse coins too.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
We did, absolutely did. Yes, how did that work out
for it? Well? Here here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Would you like to have a bunch of half house
gold coins right now?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
At Yeah, and the twenty twenty five American Liberty gold
Coins silver metal candidates have been unveiled.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
This is the ultra high relief.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Whoa yeah, I mean just look at that. Look at
that kind of uh yeah, I think that's tag style, right.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I mean, I think it's cool. What I want to
different when I want it on a coin, and probably not,
but I mean, and then the one below it's kind
of cartoonish.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Well, the one that I really like, I don't think
they'll do. And that's the sunflower. I like that sunflower.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Which one is that? Let me keep going here? Oh yeah,
that is cool. They're getting kind of cartoony.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
On some of them though, yes, well, look they have
the opportunity to do that more.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Now this here they look like Disney princesses. Look at
look at the Liberty with the butterflies. Let's see here,
this one looks hand drawn. I mean I like the
Look at that.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
One that looks hand drawn, and then there's one that
looks more just traditional. The bell, you know, it's is interesting.
But I really liked the sunflower. Yeah, I think cool.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
This is the eagle here is cool. I mean there's
some cool stuff in here, but then there's some weird stuff. Yeah,
I can't figure out what the uh. And look at
this last one here down here in this corner. It's
got like a psychedelic like nineteen sixty nine. Uh, you
know hate ash music post.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
It does well, it kind of looks like a Grateful
Dead album.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
It does like that's exactly what it made me think of.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
No, but to be honest with you, I welcome this
kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Why not.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Hey, I'm not gonna buy one anyway, So there you go.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, they're not You're not the audience. Who am I?
Who am I to? You're probably going to take one
like AML O seven R thirteen C, which is a phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Over seven AML seven thirteen C. Yeah that was cool.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I like that. That's phenomenal. Yeah, I do you too?
Put that on gold and I'd be really really happy
you're gonna do Yeah. Yeah. Speaking in twenty twenty four coins,
the first twenty twenty four. Coin production is out, So
this is the lowest production, says twenty ten. Just over
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one point seven three billion coins in the last three months.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
First quarter production plummet, plummet. They say, yes, well, I
mean it's down quite a bit. Well, how do they
make any money doing that?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
You know, apparently we don't need the coins in commerce.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Well, I wonder why people are not using cash. They're
using Apple pay and zell and Venmo, and I mean
it's it's down forty eight point four percent from February
and seventy two percent from March. I mean people people
say that cash is on the way out cash.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I don't think that case. I just think that I
don't know, it's it's it's just not the right you know.
It's like traditionally, the numbers don't lie. Look at this chart. Yeah,
March twenty twenty three one point one eighty seven million,
and then March twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
That's a year one hundred and thirty two million. Yeah,
that's a lot. I mean, that's that's a difference. May
twenty twenty three was the number one ranked left.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
See, yeah, it's a weird one. But but they said
fifty three point seven percent fuewer and consents one hundred
percent fewer Jefferenson nickels. So they didn't make any nickels
and make any dimes. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's the thing.
Like I I kind of just another two thousand and
nine with the nickels and dimes.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Wow, it's it's looking like it might be. I don't know,
my friend, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
This is about as political as I usually ever get.
The Veterans National Medal has is going to be struck
by the United States. It's been authorized. I can tell you.
It's about time. The obverse of the medal depicts members
of the Air Cavalry on a hueye yep, So you
(15:12):
know it. These people have long needed to be.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Honored, right and why not? Why not honor them? Well,
at least some of them are still alive.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Please, That's what I'm saying. It's like, if you honor
them after they all die, it really doesn't seem to
me to be that much of an honor.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Yeah, I know. So, yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
That's cool. And our next story shows you. You know,
this is what I think is going to be the
interesting part of Charles' reign. It's gonna be the different
portraits looks like he's got something going on almost, it's something.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
There's a there's a collection to be had here of
just different obverses of Charles with the different bust design
and some of them look really goofy, some of them
look Okay, his ear in this one is not so
prominent as it is on the other coins. If you
look at it. Oh, that's absolutely correct. They managed to
make you look at the face instead of the year,
(16:14):
which is I don't know what that means, but they
did it.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
But yeah, so I mean you don't think about this
that that his reign is likely going to be a
short one because he was old when he took the throne.
So yeah, this is going to be more of an
interesting let's see how it Because all the Commonwealth countries
do their own different buzz.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
It's not they all have to be approved by the crown, right,
it's not like the Royal mint mints. The coins for
all these different countries. They're minted by their own mints.
So there's going to be slight variations. I mean, I
think they kind of like the some of the coins
here in the States, you know, we get they get
a guidance of what has to be on it, and
then other than that, it's kind of sort of up
to them to do it the best way they see fit.
(17:03):
So that's why there's these variations.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know if you've seen the
new maple leafe the twenty four mayple leafs with him
on them. I have not got them yet. No, but
it's a completely different portrait than that which is on
the Britannia. The Britannia looks actually pretty decent.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Yeah, yeah, I don't like the portrait that's on it,
and this is another one that I don't.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Really think is too flattering. Yeah, yes, this is my opinion.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yeah, I agree, I agree with you, buddy. C C.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Grating has announced to launch, of course, of the sac
Registry finally. Yeah, so now there is going to be
uh a sac registry. Are they going to accept anything
but sac coins to do it?
Speaker 3 (17:50):
No, it's yoah yeah no they are. They're going to,
but they have to have a cackticker. Oh wait, hold
on wait, no, I'm reading the story here, so hold on,
I had rid this yet. What's more, In addition into
offering sets to the Loudcat coins, both graded and stickered
by us. Our registry role also allowed collectors to compete
with pcgs and MGC coins cac stickered or not in
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universal sets.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Okay, there's the news. You buried the deed. There you go,
there is the news. I like that because that's your
universal sets. And we'll see, because I have a feeling
that it is a universal set, will show the subtle
differences between the grading services. Yeah, yeah, cool, Well, there
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you go. I like that. I like that a lot. Yeah, actually,
good job, guys. The ANA Summer Seminar is something that
I think personally everybody should attend if they can. It's
going to be this year from June sixteenth to nineteenth
for session one, in June twenty third to twenty six
for session two. There are different instructors for the classes
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from week one to week two, which will vary, and
there is just a whole lot of learning going on.
There's a lot of networking going on. I attended both
the last two years and one of the things that
I made a point of doing was I sat with
different people every single meal, and so I got a
(19:19):
chance to you know, well that was because of your
odor mostly, Well, no, it wasn't it was me. It
wasn't that in Betty That's funny. So yeah, so you know,
it's they have advanced paper money, the modern minting process,
coin carving. So there's a hobo nickel thing in session one.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I've been a championship banknotes, all that stuff. I've been
a champion of the Summer Seminary for many eight years,
you know. I mean, there's literally anything you want to
learn about coins. There are the people there. They literally
gather all the most important people in the industry and
all the smartest people in the industry topics, and they
get him at one spot, and then they allow you
to interact with them and learn from them and listen
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to what they have to say. So knowledge is awesome.
There's not a thing wrong with that.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
And it's it's never bad to make new friends in
this business. It's the connections that you make that that
might put you onto something that you normally wouldn't. Yeah,
exactly exactly. And speaking of Summer Seminar, one of the
greatest things about it is that they give scholarships. So
I think this year's have already been given. I'm not
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sure the ANAS may have announced it, but this one
is a PNG scholarship. Ok. So this young numismatist from
Quarter Leon, Idaho, Donovan Floyd, is the winner of the
twenty twenty four PMG Annual Scholarship Award.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
So that's going to cover his airfares.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
His meals, his accommodations, everything for a session at summer seminar. Right, well,
that's cool. Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
And finally in the news, and I hope Jack doesn't
mind that, you know, I like to.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I kind of like to close with him because I
always see it as good news. Right. So Jack Young
has been doing so many articles now he's up to
his fiftieth COINWAK article on counterfeits five zero five zero wow. Yeah.
So Charles Morgan had the idea of asking if he
(21:29):
would do a column on the five or ten most
deceptive counterfeits he'd ever seen.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Which is funny because in this picture here that Jack
is showing, Charles is standing right there of course the right.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
And so Charles actually did. He went through and listed
the five. They are in reverse artists. So number five
was the seventeen ninety six set five large.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Sent I've seen this going in my hand. It's pretty interesting.
In this top one here, Yes.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
It's it's got really good color, a lot of things
that make it look really good, and you look at
it and it's really bad. An eighteen seventy two s
seeded half dollar.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Well, yeah, the thing that makes us really bad is
this was actually struck over a later date large scent.
You can tell by the star out here in front
of the mouth that it was struck over a large scent.
It's kind of hard for it to go back in time, right.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yep, And there it is in a wow.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
So Jack is kind of started like taking some shots
here because the one thing I know about Jack is
not very often do you see the actual coins in
the slabs, And this is a obviously counterfeit coin in
a PCGS genuine slab. Yeah, yep, yikes, bikes happens, yake
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spikes in eighteen seventy two sea half. I've also seen
this also in a PCGSS holder. It's quite scary. I've
had this point in my hand and looked at it
a few times. That winn was really scary.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
I want to see what Russ's opinion on it would
be in hand, because he knows a lot about seated stuff,
and I really really trust his eye and and there
are you know, there's some other coins that that made
his list. They were also the eighteen thirty six go
Breck dollar, and there was a seventeen ninety seven S
one nine large cent.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Yeah, there's that steak and gobreakder. I spent many an
hour trying to find these on the internet, and I
think I found one that had went through an auction.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
And that was what he considered to be the you know,
the top five most deceptive counterfeits that he had ever uh,
that he had ever encountered. And you know, we celebrate
the man's entire catalog, Yes, for sure. And that was
the news. And the news, of course, was brought to
us tonight by ankles. You couldn't walk without them, ankles. Ankles.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Well, do you want to check in with a chat
before we bang over to the coolest thing.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Well, let's check in and let's see how everybody's doing,
because man, we got a lot of people in here tonight.
We do. I like it.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
It's good to see you guys.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
So it's like, get your questions ready because we are
definitely going to answer you ask us anything.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Real quick news and then we'll get right on to
the coolest thing is the meetup for Central States. If
you guys will be attending Central States, I know I
would let you guys know that we win. Our meetup
would be We're going to have our meetup on Thursday night,
which is the second of May, in the hotel lobby
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of the Renaissance Hotel at eight pm Central time. Come
on hang out with us. I think it's also going
to coincide with the Collectors of Interesting Numismatic Stuff club.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
So the president of the Collectors of Interesting Numismatic Stuff
is in the audience tonight. That would be Stephen Mayer.
Yes and yeah, so he is going to combine the
meet and greets for that club and our our you
know group, because there's so much overlap and it's like
we can all just have a really good time. There
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is a big, big area for us to sit in
the in the Renaissance, so we don't even have to
sit in the bar. We can sit away from the
bar nicely have conversation and we can talk and you know,
there's plenty of seats. And if Spencer coming this year,
I know he's got a brand new baby.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
So unfortunately my big Spencer staying home with his brand
new little baby, I told him. Yeah, but yeah, that's
what it's gonna be. So you guys come hang out
with us, say hi, there will be plenty of listeners
to the show there and coin nerds such as yourselves
and us.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Come hang out, all right, hang out, all right? You ready? Yeah? Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Let me just get the things with the things and
the things ready here, Okay, there we go. All right, guys,
well this is your coolest thing.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
And here we go. All right, So Matt Porus starts
us off birthday gift from my mother for my mother
from her birth here. Oh that's cool. You you bought her
a nice on circulated nineteen forty nine a half. It's
got some toning. It looks like the bell lines are
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actually pretty strong on this. Yeah, yeah it sure does. Okay,
very nice half Matt.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Thanks, Mark Sure is up next, he says, not a
great pick of my George Michael commemorative crown. I love
loved wayam when I.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Was a kid.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
And of course his majesty is on the other side. Wow,
I kind of like that.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Actually, see and it has to have his majesty on it,
because I.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Was going to say, there's a picture of it here right.
I was going to say, there's two queens on the coin,
oh man, But that's funny. Compare this design to the
one we were looking at earlier. How much more of
a jowl he has? How much bigger the ear is
on this one? And this is the Royal Mint issue?
I believe right?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
I think so because this looks more like his official portrait.
This looks like the one that's on the Britannia right.
George Michael looks stunning in this coin, but he was
a model.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
He looks like he's straight out of a nineties video game,
straight out of the nineties. To slab Daddy's up. Next,
he says something cool I recently got. This was the
original green being tagged from c ACS for year of operation.
So when they first started off and you got a
sticker on your coin, they would actually put this whole
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thing on the back, and everybody that I know threw
him away. So I think he's showing us that, hey,
there's a survivor out there. Slab Daddy's flexing. Yep, slab
Daddy flex.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Jody Dotson picked this up over the weekend at the
NWA show in Benton Phill, Arkansas.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
So hold on a second.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
So are we're talking about Oh, it's got to be
a Northwest Arkanshaw our Northwest Arkansas coin show.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Not not the musical group.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
They got that attitude. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
So this is a this a fifteen sixty shilling Elizabeth
the first VG eight, very very cool coin. Yeah, this
is a hammered coin. So it's like these are always
really cool. Yeah, and it's ass VG eight.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Up next, Oco says, sorry, I don't have a better picture,
but I picked up this bog version of the secondary
had dollar at the GNA show this past weekend. It's
made out of plastic. I have never heard of such
a thing. I would do this, what says Bog's money
on it?
Speaker 1 (29:18):
What it does.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
But it's also was made in nineteen eighty four, and
it appears to have the same design, or very similar
design to what we went with.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I think it's a classic re strike.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
I don't know if it is or not. I don't
know why.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
How would you have the second this? This was a
portrait that was designed by Glenna Goodacre. It was there's
no way that it can predate. I'm googling. There's no way.
I'm googling. And while you're googling, I will out of
everybody know that. Jack Young said he's saving his for
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Central States. Ooh, so I'm looking forward to that. I
saw the thing.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Okay, yeah, JSG bogs Second, wee hours. Let me get
this up on the screen real quick. I'm gonna pop
us over. Could you guys see that one?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yeah, you had it before it was better, you guys
can see it. Okay, So let's go here.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Yeah, this is the small dollars dot com website. Actually,
it's a really good reference. JSG box hours bogs bills
are collected around the world. Now JSG Bogs has moved
into the coin arena. Renowned paper money artist JSG Bug
created his version of the Sackadewee dour molded an orange plastic.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
His secondsists of six coins.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Each coin features a different datement mark nineteen eighty eight,
c h Fun nineteen ninety nine, b Fun two thousand
and j. Okay, so I bet that that is some
sort of like marking on the coin. Actually as to
(30:59):
which one it is, well, yes, nobody tries to pass
it as an actual SACKI dollar.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yeah there you go.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Okay, well there we go. We found it very cool.
See now we learned. Everybody learned something together that had
no idea what that was.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I love learning. Yeah, I love this show for that, Jack,
Are you sure? Nothing new? But I had an opportunity
to have my mome Ohio collection paper and Civil War
tokens displayed at our local museum, and I jumped on it.
Side note, can't wait to find something in Central States
for next coolest thing? Uh?
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Oh cool j our presence says, So it's probably the
coolest find in a long while. A twenty hour bill
with two two to two to to to two two
for the serial number. Uh, pulled my money, pulled my
money out of the back machine for the week, and
noticed five of a kind of ascending order to two
(31:54):
three xx. I'll bring new Chris bills. Took my chances
and it was skipping numbers. Buddy ended up with this note.
I will keep some of the bills near this order
he's sending. He can't decide if he wants to send
this one off or get it graded. Probably have that
note graded, especially if it's Christmas circulated. Solid serial numbers
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are worth a decent amount.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Fifty.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
I sincerely doubt that you're going to be able to
keep it because of the value.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Yeah, I mean that's it. If it's crispu on circulated
solid tudes that that note's going to fetch a good,
very good dollar.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
I mean it's in the thousands, believe it or not.
Not Hercules not something I would buy, but definitely in
the thousands. Hercules got any new lens for camera?
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I'm sorry. Hold on.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
He showed a picture of all the other notes he
got around the same time. It's pretty cool. Yeah, it's
got all the different denominations.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Sorry. Hercules has a Marty Grau token with backus. Wow. Yeah,
really nice toning.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
That is probably the most beautiful Marty Grau token I've
ever Should we name it?
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Sorry? Ha Seth Hanson nineteen twenty one. Morgan silver dollar
that I picked up at a show last year looks
proof like I'm thinking about resubmitting it.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Old on, I lost I got last year. Sorry about that,
miss click, I am back.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Seth Hanson nineteen twenty one. Morgan silver dollar that I
picked up at a show last year looks proof like
I'm thinking about resubmitting it.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
It does look proof, like these coins come a little proof,
like though they're really tough on actually calling them proof
like right, it's a hard thing to get on a
twenty one dollar but they do come semi proof, like
they really do. And that's a great example of it
right there. It's a great example of it. And to
be honest with you, the coin is fairly desirable. I
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can't believe they thread it. Yeah, that coin's better than
a three. It looks like I mean, obviously might make
a difference, but from the video it sure looks like
it's nicer than a three.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Yeah, cheek is pretty clean. Jeff Schmaltz pick this up
over the weekend. First CC, Morgan to my collection. There
you go, eighteen eighty two CC. That's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Everybody remembers their first CC. I sure do, even time
in the wild. Stephen Burton says, after a five year
hunt and losing and losing in several auctions, I was
able to purchase this signed Lesimicos Tetradram from Pergammon. This
example is among the finest style dies. Okay, so coin nerds,
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ancient coin nerds see are interested in sometimes the guys
that actually made these dies, because not all dyes are
created equal. In ancient coins, they have these things called
fine styles and these are basically like master artists that
that cut these particular dyes. They're much more desirable per
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se than other examples. So yeah, that's what that is.
And sometimes they would hide little symbols in them, uh
to to actually uh you know, put off. Yeah, the
problem the one that they were the one that carved
this die. So yeah, this one is very well detailed.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
And for the fact that it has such a deep obverse,
you know, that will make it harder and harder to
strike the details up on the reverse.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
So yeah, the reverses are pretty flat on these, they're
not not as nearly as deep like this.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
That's beautiful. Yeah, pretty coolin Dennis Mendoza common date and
the last one they needed to finish the series. So
apparently Dennis has a complete set of twenty lips. Yeah,
there's are tens. Oh I'm sorry, the glare got it
so I couldn't see the denominations.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
So this is an eighteen forty three oh oh oh
oh ten lib so see if you posted other pictures.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Nope, that's okay, yep. It's a beautiful coin and it's
in a PCGSS holder AU fifty three with a cacksticker yes.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Sir, Oh, good friend Arthur says scored this when last night.
Need to confirm the authenticity once in hand, but if
it's a genuine article, it will be my single best
margin purchase today.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Let's take a look. Holy cow.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Yeah, it sure definitely looks like a real holder. Definitely
looks like a genuine coin from this picture. Yeah, one
can only hope hopefully the lifting was genuine.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
If it is, there, you go. Yeah. Daniel Fiegel picked
up this dual error clip and off center for Michael
kittlerare Coins. It was a little out of both of
our normal swim lanes, but too cool to pass up. Yeah,
this is what I like when people just kind of
go out of their comfort zone and do something a
little different just because it's cool.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Sometimes something just hits you a little bit different and
you just never know what that's going to be and
when it's going to happen. And I'm I'm guilty of
that more than most people actually of buying something just
because I think it's cool. See Daniel also posted also
picked up my second coin from the former Washington Rainbows
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register set. It was a beautiful w quarter for a
steal in an an X lab very nice, very good.
It's a war in the Pacific Park sixty seven. And
he showed us the Washington Rainbows Point too, which is
nineteen forty four corner PCGS sixty seven plus plus.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Yeah, got of like that. Jack Riley altered date eighteen
fifteen large sent I've been looking for one of these
for a while AND's doubled across one. Since it's the
only year the US never made a cent. It's still
pretty cool. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
So there's how they took an eighteen four and just
lopped off part of that four and turned it into
an eighteen fifteen. Yeah, so it doesn't have the correct
type for either fourteen or seven or sixteen, right.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Jack Hill shows us an eighteen eighty eight seeded diamond
MS sixty two in GC with a cack sticker and
the coin's got some pretty peripheral tony with being mostly
white in the center.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
I think that's a pretty coin. Thank you for showing us.
It's a really old slab too, it is.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
It's an old fatty I think, old yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
N GC slab. Stephen Mayer picked up this nice boon
this month. Loved the old green holder too. So this
is in a what is a general the same generation.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
As the Rattler, So I'm not sure if this actually
is a Rattler.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
No, this is the Gen two. I can't tell. It
has those little dots on the back.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
I feel like this is right after the Rattler where
they put the little thing around the outside of it. Sure,
maybe not, it's hard to say. Let's see if you
post a picture of the back. Oh yeah, there you go.
Very very cool coin, that is. Malcolm says this too. Stever,
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coin was minted in the town of I don't know
how you pronounced this one, Gale. Well, it's gal Cylon,
so it's Gal. Who knows Gal? I would say Gal
in Ceylon seventeen eighty three by the Dutch East India
Company for about a decade before the Dutch lost the
island to the British. Obviously very functional design and it's
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still quite scarce in this condition. An interesting piece of history. Wow,
that is cool.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Dutch East India Company stuff is very very cool.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Some of it's super duper common and you can get
it cheap for really really high grade examples. I've never
seen this one before, so that obviously means it's probably
pretty rare because I've had a bunch of the Dutch
East India voc but yeah, that's super cool.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
I like that. So Brian Bass just acquired this neat
die adjustment strike, eager to hear Matt's take on these.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Okay, well, die adjustment strike is literally just that. It
is where they are making sure that the dies are
lined up properly in the press so they run a
couple of low pressure strikes just to make sure that
everything looks right before they turn off the pressures and
finalize everything and start striking coins. So that's exactly what
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this coin looks like. It looks like it was just
struck with a lower pressure before they really tighten everything
down and started firing off coins. So that is a
die adjustment strike. A lot of times they would do
that when they were switching out the dies when a
die broke or something or they you know, they had
to replace them. They do a couple of adjustment strikes
to make sure that they put it in right and
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got everything straight.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Then they were off to the races.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
There you go, Bob Brock says, and wanting to get
this one grated and hoping it will come back of
the F twenty a close call, but a big difference
from a fifteen. He shows us a nineteen twenty one
D Walking Liberty half dollar. Looks like a nice, wholesome coin.
I mean it's got some circulations, got a couple of
little marks in the field, but nothing distracting.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Yeah, I mean everything about it looks right. Yeah, you know,
I think I think it has a good chance. I
think it's the rooms are nice and full.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Yeah, my gut says it probably is a fifteen, but
I wouldn't argue with it in a twenty hold. Reason, Oh,
fifteen is still a nice coin for a twenty one D. Yeah,
tough coin for twenty one D. Most of those are
one flat.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Yeah, Kevin Balka pleasantly toned, excuse me, nineteen forty seven
s Philippines one up pesol and this one has more
really really nice target toning.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
I'm gonna say pleasantly toned an understatement. I think that
is amazingly tone that goes beautiful, just has that beautiful
rainbow target toning on the side with MacArthur, very very cool. Yeah,
Joshua Wright says, nineteen ten kind of you know, tea
pronounce that's right, T pronounces it so well, and I
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can't do it. I've pronounced that the ga I purchased
at the g NA show in Dalton last weekend. That
is a great design, I really design. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
It reminds me a lot of the Organ Trail.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Yeah, I mean it's it's libertod riding a horse or
Liberty riding a horse across the sunrise or sunset. Very
very cool.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
David Day's Hotel said, this is by far my coolest
thing I own, and it is a radar note.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
Radar Yeah, if you guys don't radar is it's a
note that reads the same forwards and backwards is nearly
a solid serial number is one all sevens and then
a one.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
That's cool. It is cool. And then he says this
coin is probably second which is an ancient not able
to attribute it though, because it's really rough, but it's
cool to have. Yeah heck yeah. And dream coin is
a piece of eight and he has one of those
as well.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Very cool.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
Oh, Michael Sturg just posted an air here we go.
My latest cool thing found coin roll hunting really coin
hunting cool. Even cooler is that I learned something new
what I thought was a grease air or die deterioration
may actually be a brock and strike on an early
stage struck through die cap. Yeah, this coin was struck
through a die cap, and you can tell that because
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of this kind of lump down here at the bottom.
The die cap was starting to come apart and the
metal was kind of pushing outwards and that's what leaves
that lump. So that is one hundred percent struck through
a die cap.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
And you know, just a little bit about those things.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
Couple things about a couple of things when it comes
to die caps. But yeah, pull that coin raw, honey.
That's awesome, very is awesome. That's a great find.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Yeah. We recently bought one of these over the counter,
and to be honest with the eye, made the grand mistake.
I threw it into the change bucket because the opposite
side is absolutely perfect. Yeah, they look and I can't
turn over to look at it, and you know, it's
like we found it and we graded it and it's yeah, Yeah,
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that was almost one of the biggest mistakes I've ever made.
It happens though. Gabriel Woodkowski. Recent finds from work includes
a first and third year Jefferson Nichols and a nineteen
twenty nine wheat penny.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Heck, yeah, you know, I found a lot of cool
stuff over the here is going through change Storge when
I was a cashier.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
Heck yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Clay Harlan says Australia's first Australia's first ever, of course,
P and C's first ever special edition worldwide P and
C fifteen P and C two cent group, the one
and only out with the pound in with a sense
officially authorized not of course in Mint records, as it
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was the only competition for the most historic change in
Australia's monetary policy. So what we're looking at here looks
like I'm not even sure what these are destinately, so
this is these look like first day covers from when
they were switching out the coinage from the pound to
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the scent.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
Okay, so it was going from pound based to decimal
coin Australion dollars. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
So it looks like he has one of each one,
or or looks like he's got a bunch of them
at least.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Yeah, that's cool, very cool tea. The silver stacker shows
us a coin ring that's made out of a libertud. Oh,
that guy likes his Libertods. So Libertod's always has.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
I wonder if he's going to be rocking that thing
at the coin show. You think, I don't know, we're
gonna We're gonna find out, aren't we.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
They are.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
Susan Susan Stole says, I just got this coin today
and it is a twenty twenty four Dragon of I
believe this is Australia. Yeah, I'm gonna say it's colorized. Yep,
colorized dragon in Australia. It's one dollar coin, one ounce
of silver with a really cool dragon. Yeah, because twenty
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twenty four is the ear of the dragonp Susan also
got this from the US Mint, and so it's a
Rosie the Riveter metal. Yep, us ment Rosie the River metal.
These are cool. Yeah. I like this design here on
the back with the ship and the airplane and the tanks.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
Really cool. Hey, here go, I'm gonna let you have
this on buddy. It's all you, okay. So justin Irvin,
it's a coin from the Trial of the Picks. It
is a twenty nineteen to one twentieth ounce silverproof Britannia.
So every year the Royal Mint submits all of their
coins should be examined by a judicial court. They test
the metals purity and quality using destructive means, and the
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process was invented in fourteen hundred due to a problem
with the metal content and purity being off regularly. So
it's my favorite nimismatic process because of the penalties. So
no king or queen wants their coin of the realm
to be, as far as you know, short.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
Change, right, So they want the coins to be what
they're supposed to be, right.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Well, they want them to be what they're supposed to be.
They want them to be well respected, and if you're
short changing people, it never will. That's an embarrassment. So
if they found that the coins were not the correct purity,
they would cut off the mentor's hands. Well who needs hands, right?
I mean they still do the trial of the picts
to this day. Now It's like, I don't know when
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the last time somebody lost their hands was. I think
that would be an interesting topic.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
Oh man, can you imagine they just drag him out
to London Bridge nowadays, lop his hands off right there
Mill Street up with his vunts. Bernie Brennan says, not
really big on constitution coins but this one had really
nice toning.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
I kind of like that one too.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
Yeah, beautiful coin. Yeah no, it doesn't need a name.
Oh I was gonna recommend Mustafa, Yeah sure, Marcus Davis.
My first coolest thing is my yearbook. I started collecting
in two thousand and four, so I thought it would
be fun to have a numismatic related people sign it
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for me. That's cool. He took a red book and
he has had all kinds of people.
Speaker 3 (48:54):
Oh wait, I see my terrible handwriting in there.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
Yep, Matt is in there. Yeah, suckers in their venturess Gibson.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
Sorry, I write like a seven year old Ever been o.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
It's just a thing.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
Then. The other coolest thing is this Morgan dollar with
a piece of the bag it came in. I'm not
sure the bagot came in. I just think it's a
bag of I think it's just a piece of bag coins.
That Yeah, that's cool though, I mean it's probably a coin.
It's probably a piece of a dollar bag. Which are
they're out there right?
Speaker 1 (49:31):
And it's possible that this coin may have spent some
time in this bag, but probably not if I was
a guessing man.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
Seth cecil says, I've been buying five hundred dollar boxes
a quarter lately. I'm on my third one, and every
box has given me two west point quarters each so far.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
Wow. Cool.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
I pulled these two twenty nineteens today, and I've only
gone through about through ten of the fifty rolls so far,
hoping to find some more and maybe some silver. So
they're still out there, they're still being pulled.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
That's all awesome. And he's been incredibly lucky because there's
an American National Park one there that seems to be
the one that everybody likes. Yeah, Corey Williams's flowing hair
half dollar was clearly someone's pocket piece for a very
long time. Wow, look at that thing.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
I know, I love flowing hair halves, and that kind
of edge is still all there and legible, and yeah,
you can still read the side lettering, but the rest
of it's just gone.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
That's so cool.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
Yep, there's so a little bit of luck left in
that coin.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
James L.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
Crandall says, my most recent ad nineteen fifty to nineteen
sixty three Franklin Proof half dollar set. I do have
the fifty six type one proof outside this set, as
well as the thirty five coin Business Strike collection. You know,
I will say, in modern ish coinage, this is one
of the most impressive capital holders that are out there.
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I've had a few of these. Every time I get one. Man,
if their coins are nice and white and flashy, that
set right there just looks cool. It's just one of
my favorites. A great so I love Franklin haves, particularly
when they have a little frost.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
To them, right, well, of course everybody does. You kind
of like them?
Speaker 3 (51:17):
Hey, Mary Swan the unnamed The unnamed source says, as
uh as clean and as white as an sq as
I've ever seen photos, don't do it justice? And he
shows us a nineteen twenty eight Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
Yep, that it is.
Speaker 3 (51:33):
It's got phenomenal luster and the coin looks to be
a smoke show.
Speaker 1 (51:38):
And last but not least, oh hey it's me. Oh yeah,
so you might as well go ahead.
Speaker 3 (51:43):
I haven't put a coin in my collection in years,
and by years, I mean like three or four years.
Speaker 1 (51:47):
I haven't bought anything. I just I can't.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
But this coin just slapped me in the face and said,
you know what, Matt, take me home. And I did.
I bought myself a nineteen sixty four triple struck obverse
die cap in an n GC MS sixty five red
brown holder. The coin is just so cool. This is
an obverse die cap. So this is one that actually
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struck stuck to the die and started smashing out coins
right here on the back you can see. So this
caused something similar to this caused this coin up here
we were looking at earlier. This coin right here was
actually struck by a coin like mine that was stuck
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to the die, and that's what causes it. But the
cool part about this one is this coin looks like
it was struck two other times before it became stuck
to the dye. So this coin is just a big
hot mess. It's just one planchet, so it actually gets
really thin. And the cool part about it is right
in front of his face, there's actually a little hole
where this coin was starting to come apart from the
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stretching and the pressures. So very cool. Oh yeah, and
that's the best part. It's purple. It's just a cool coin.
I had to add to my collection. I wanted to
participate in the coolest thing myself. There you go, why not,
that's it, buddy, So.
Speaker 1 (53:19):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (53:20):
That leads us to Q and A. You're going to
do a little bit of ask us anything.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
That means that you can ask us any question there
is uh, you know, that's why is the sky blue?
It doesn't matter, and we have to give you an answer. Okay,
it doesn't have to be true. We just have to
give you an answer. Okay, Well, let's go. Our men
behind the glass are going to pop up the questions
for it so we can all see it.
Speaker 3 (53:50):
And let us know what is going on. It looks
like we may have lost or one of our lot,
one of our guys behind the glass. Oh, there we go,
there we go.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
So leanne Wirik. If each of you could buy two coins,
one American coin one foreign coin for your personal colluestion,
regardless of price, what would they be? Go ahead you first?
Speaker 3 (54:14):
Okay, so foreign coin. I would like to have an
Athenian owl. Beautiful.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
I love those things. They're really nice. It's an ancient
coin and UD has a lot of detail. Really beautiful coin.
I think that would be what i'd want. Yeah, yeah,
you let us coin. If I could have anything that
I wanted, I would probably have an eighteen oh eight
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five dollars gold. Look at you digging down deep. It
is the entire bust on the coin. It's a one
year type and just absolutely magnificent. Yeah, those are cool.
Those are cool.
Speaker 3 (54:57):
Well, I'm going to be a little more generic and
I answer I would go with the world's most famous
gold coin, which would be the idmar oh okay. And
then I would go with the world's most famous American
gold coin, which would be the thirty three Saint.
Speaker 1 (55:11):
You know, just nothing, you know, I've had one of
them in my hand, I know.
Speaker 3 (55:16):
Is that cool? Yes, I like, it's very cool.
Speaker 1 (55:19):
One of them is a three million dollar coin, and
one of them is a thirty million dollar coin. Maybe, yeah,
something crazy like that. Something crazy like that. At owings,
when I hear dealers say they're going to sell to
a wholesaler, who are the wholesalers just curious? Matt uh. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (55:39):
So there are in this industry. There are a lot
of people that you have never heard of before, and
you will never hear of. These are the men behind
the curtains that make the coin industry go round. These
are guys that sit in offices all day that have
no retail presence. What they don't want to deal with
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the public. They're not going to deal with the public.
They are strictly the middlemen, the movers. They are the
guys that go out and find this stuff and then
they move it to the people that need it.
Speaker 1 (56:14):
What they are really really good at is they are
good at flipping stuff fast. So they take it in,
they take it off the hands of people that don't
want it, and they move it on to people that
do and they do it very fast, and they make
money in the transaction.
Speaker 3 (56:28):
And sometimes it's not fast. Sometimes it takes time.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
Yeah, so that can be true too.
Speaker 3 (56:33):
But sometimes what they do is they'll organize, say, say
a dealer puts out a buyod for Hey, you know,
I have a customer or an IRA customer or an
IRA you know corporation that wants to put money into
an IRA and they need one hundred and fifty four
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piece gold proof sets for their IRA. Well, that company
then reaches out to a wholesaleer and it's like, hey,
I need these, and then that person, the wholesaler will
go out and.
Speaker 1 (57:03):
Try to find them and find them and find them
and then sell them to that company.
Speaker 3 (57:06):
So it's basically just the big coin vacuum cleaner, and
there's whole wholesalers for everything. There's wholesalers from everything from
wheat sense all the way up to you know, twenty
thousand dollars coins. They're out there. They're just not people
that choose to do business with the public. They're strictly
dealer to dealer and actually a lot of them, depending
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on the states that they're from, aren't allowed to deal
with the public if they're in a wholesale capacity.
Speaker 1 (57:34):
So there you go. That's who they are. Paul Bloom,
how can you tell the difference between a die adjustment
strike and a week strike? Paul is out there throwing questions,
she's trolling. I know she is. She does about the
stuff that we do.
Speaker 3 (57:52):
She does, And the answer is, you really can't it
just the grading companies, you know they I would say,
my answer would be the general weakness towards the edge
of the coin versus the center of the coin. Because
of the way that the coin is, the pressures are struck.
But at the end of the day, unless you're standing there,
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you probably can't really.
Speaker 1 (58:15):
Tell for sure. And I think for in order for
them to call it a die adjustment strike, it has
to be relatively close to mins state.
Speaker 3 (58:25):
Yeah, relatively yeah, I would say that's well, if you
wouldn't be able to.
Speaker 4 (58:29):
Tell, it's possible, that's possible. One of the questions that
on it, and I even like it.
Speaker 1 (58:40):
Yeah, should the nineteen thirteen Liberty had Nickel be legal
to own even though it was never officially released by the.
Speaker 3 (58:46):
Minute, Well, they've never gone in after them, so well,
what's your opinion on should it be?
Speaker 1 (58:53):
I mean, they.
Speaker 3 (58:58):
If if they're setting a precedent with the Langs Boards,
you know, thirty three Saints, then no, they should not
be legal to own because if they didn't release it,
then it was stolen, wasn't it. I mean, how else
do you get it unless it was gifted to you
by the person making it. I'm not sure that those
coins were, so.
Speaker 1 (59:21):
I think that if you're going to be confiscating thirty
three double eagles, that there's no way that these could
be not confiscated.
Speaker 3 (59:30):
I just don't think so.
Speaker 1 (59:31):
But my opinion is that they should all be out
there and they since they exist, they should be legal
to own. Well, sure, I are ways of disincentivizing, you know,
because that's what they're trying to do. Is they're trying
to make sure that people don't create more of these things,
more of these instant rarities. And I agree with they.
Speaker 3 (59:53):
Don't want to mind employee, Like, maybe I should make
something of it.
Speaker 1 (59:58):
In nineteen twenty or a twenty twenty five type one
gold eagle. That'd be really cool, right right, yeah, So
stuff like that. So, I mean my opinion on it is, Look,
it exists, it's out there. You should be able to
own it. The Langboard family should be able to have
their double eagles, and we should see all of them
that are still out there, right, let's get them in
(01:00:20):
people's hands collections. Yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
They're they're sticky on those for some reason. It's weird
and on some.
Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
And not others, which is just to me absolutely insane. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
You know, why are the aluminum scents legal to own?
Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Yeah? Because somebody claimed that they found one on the ground.
Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
I guess justin Irvin, Mike and Matt would coin to
either of you, wish you could get back. I speak Siri.
I don't have any none. I don't want them back.
Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
I once had a nineteen twenty two no D strong
reverse in x F forty. I wish I could have
that coin back. I think Richard knackbar for one thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
Say I bought I bought a coin for me. I
think it was a three legger though, wasn't it what
I think I bought a three legger from you at
one point?
Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Yes, you bought a three legger for me that had
a gigantic stable scratch in the back. That was a
shame it was. It was a nice coin. I bought it.
Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
I didn't see the scratch. That was like one of
my biggest learning experiences of all time. Yeah. The way
I look at it is now, I don't want any
of these coins back that I've had. There's nothing that's
just like stuck in my head because you know, I
got to I got to be the caretaker of it,
or it was in my collection.
Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
Yeah, I would say to a certain point and move on. Yeah,
there's a bigger another one, different coins down the road,
you know, Yeah, Sturge's coins.
Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Do you know of a reference for markers on the
twenty two no D link consent?
Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
I found one of a role not magnetic ways correct,
but I suspect it's a China special. There is a
very good piece in the PC PCGS Guide to Counterfeit
Detection and uh Coin Grading and Counterfeit Detection. The PCGS
book has a nice piece on it, but I will
also tell you that if you go to Lincolnsentresource dot
(01:02:19):
com you'll find all the markers there.
Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
Yeah, I was just going to pull that up. Actually,
let's just do it together. Sure, sorry googling here, There
it is, Okay, let me add this real quick.
Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
I'd really like to know what your guys thoughts are
on tonight's show how it sounds, because that was the
primary driver of this. So I want to hear from
our people that listen on audio only. I want to
listen to people that have been through a lot of
these changes with us, from you know, way back when
until now. I'd really like to hear your opinions on
(01:03:00):
what you think of this particular platform and how it
works for you.
Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
So yep, here we are at the Lincolntent Resource website.
Over here on the left, you see this twenty two
No D and week. These there are seven different die pairs,
some aer week, some are strong, but if you go.
Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
There's really only one that matters. It's number three. Yep.
Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
If you scroll down here you will see the photos
of the different die pairs. And no, it's number two,
by the way, buddy, Well it's die pair two, but
it was number three on that list. Oh yeah, I'm sorry, yep,
but yeah, you scroll down here, it will show you
all these things to look for. Die pair two is
(01:03:41):
pretty simple, really, if you look at the overge of
this coin and actually, you know what, We're gonna go
to PCGS and.
Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Get a yeah, I get a plate coin because it's
so obvious when you're looking at a really nice version
of it.
Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
We're gonna get a coin faction. I'm gonna pull up
a nice big picture verifying you are. Hum I, well
it was when I woke up this morning.
Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
Well I'm not so sure anymore. I'm so sure anymore. Yep.
Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
And this is really cool, guys. If you if you
don't do this, you should. PGS really does a service
by putting out these really high quality pictures of the
coins that they've graded. And so yeah, this is this
is a twenty two stronger verse and this is the
one that you want. And the way you can tell,
(01:04:27):
the really easy way is to look at in God.
We trust in God. We is really soft and mushy
compared to the word trust, which is pretty strong. Uh.
And then also the H L, I, B E and
liberty is really really weak usually, and then rt y
is usually pretty strong.
Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
The second two in the date is absolutely your giveaway. Yep.
Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
And that was what I was going to get to last,
is the if you look at the date in most coins,
this coin is a super high grade m S sixty five.
Most years are not going to be uh. But the
one in the first two are going to be much
weaker than that second two. And if we go over,
let's a few more images and scroll down to a
(01:05:08):
circulated one so we can get a better idea.
Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
Here's a VF thirty. Let's pull it up. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
I think it's a better example because it'll show after
a little bit of where maybe if my internet wants
for their website wants to help me out here, Oh,
here we go, here we go. So as you can see,
this is a a what grade is this coin? Two
is where I really like to look because it just
looks as a different date.
Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
So I look at trust two and then ty. You
can authenticate in that fast trust to ty and.
Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
Then you turn it over and if the coin looks
like a brand new reverse. That's die pair two. Yep,
that's die pair two. That's the one that matters. And
there you go.
Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
That is how you authenticate nineteen twenty two stronger verses.
M Nicole Mauser, what's your favorite coin show to set
up at an sell? Well, it's a great question. The
A and A is always great. It moves around, though,
so that show's kind of hit or miss. I do
(01:06:15):
like this show coming up next week, though, Central States
in Schomberg is probably my favorite show of the year.
Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
And I don't necessarily like setting up at shows. I
like going new shows, but I don't know. I like
to walk the bors. I just do. That's what I
like to do.
Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So any for me, any show will do.
Yeah yeah, but yeah, Central States for me is kind
of the show that I like the most, and it's fun.
Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
This year.
Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
I've got a guy that has never been on my
side of the table doing the show with me before,
so he it was a greater for many years at PCGS,
but he's never been on the dealer side of the table.
So we're going to do show together and I get
to to have that experience with him. So it's gonna
be fun.
Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
That'll be cool. Yeah, I am throwing in your first
in your personal collection. What's your favorite coin and why
go for it? Let's see my favorite coin right now,
because it changes from time to time. Is I bought
an Oregon Trail last year and it's circulated and toned
(01:07:27):
and just really beautiful and not particularly valuable, just nice.
Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
Yeah, and mine is when you saw earlier, my new favorite,
my nightcap. It's literally within reaching distance. I mean, that's
how much I like it.
Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
It will be for a while a little bit away.
Arthur Valentine clearly using obs We're not Nope, and I
can see it here a way higher quality. Can you
please recap your Central State show plans? So so you're saying,
Arthur that this is better qual thank you cut. Oh
(01:08:06):
you stuttered right in the middle of that.
Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
Yeah, so famous last words. Anyways, so it seems like
this is the one that we were we're working on
that part too of this month. We'll just put it
to you that way, Mike said. Mike told me earlier
that we're working on that part next.
Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
So there you go.
Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
Yeah, uh, and then recap the c S n S plans.
Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
So our our plans are going to be for a
meet and greet on Thursday night at eight pm centralm
Central at the bar. H Well, it's going to be
outside of the bar, but you kind of meet around
the bar in the lobby outside of the bar at
the Renaissance. So that's floor. It's not on the main floor.
Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
It's on the second Yep, that's the hotel that's connected
right there to the show. Just walk around there and
you'll you'll probably hear Mike laughing because we laugh a
lot when we get together, Yes, we do.
Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
And then as far as to show itself, Matt is
going to be at table fifteen eleven fifteen eleven, and
then Harlan Burke will have both an Ancient table, Ancient
World table and a US table. Russ will be at
the US table. I will be at the US table
from time to time. But somebody has to stay in
mind in the shop we are going to. I will
be there all day Friday, and.
Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
All day Friday, we're gonna be running around causing havoc.
I guess we are going to We're going to cause trouble.
Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
Yeah, we're going to get in trouble probably no, maybe JH.
Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
Yeah, Stephen mayor, what can we bring to the party.
To the party, just bring yourself, have fun, smile and face,
and we'll have Originally I had floated the idea of
maybe doing a barbecue. I don't think it's going to
work this year because of a short notice. But you
(01:09:56):
know what, Steven, I may have something for you if
you really want so break some turkey legs.
Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
Well, friend, you want to wrap it? So wait, Jack Riley,
we'll get this the last one. Jack Rivey says, the
coolest VAM you guys have ever had in your shop.
Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
I like vams.
Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
I can't say it's it was a VAM, so I
would I would classify this just as a die variety.
There was an eighteen sixty one oh half that we
had in our shop, okay, and it was the spirit
Olive variety.
Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
Oh the Confederate strike correct.
Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
So I thought that that was really cool that you
could you could actually.
Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
Date the coin to being made under the auspices of
the Confederacy simply by the die clash that.
Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
Was on there. That's cool. Yeah, I like that too.
One second here, I'm trying to see if I can
actually find a picture of the VAM my favorite, the
best VAM that I ever had at my store.
Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
Ah VAM bam, thank you, ma'am. Well that's not what
I wanted.
Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
Tell you what coolest thing dragged us along tonight. But no,
that's okay, No, I'm happy to provide it. There's no
picture of it. Unfortunately PCGS graded it. Anyways, the coolest
VAM I ever found. I was walking around a coin
show and I looked down in the case and I
saw one of those sets that has the five different
silver dollars and it has the you know, the I
(01:11:34):
think it was an eighteen seventy eight set. It had
the overdate with the tail feathers, it had the s,
it had the CC I was looking at in it,
and I bought it after a while, and I flipped
over the eighteen seventy eight s and noticed that it
was kind of funky over you know, the tail feathers.
(01:11:56):
So I started looking and it turned out that it
was the VAM forty four, which is called the King
of Vams. This coin was mint state I think, I
think a grated MS sixty three, and we got a
boatload of money for it back in the day.
Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
So yeah, it was cool. That was a cool piece
beat related and.
Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
I found out just walking around a little local coin show.
So they're out there.
Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
So Arthur Valentine ass on Thursday. I'm sure. Go ahead,
Arthur Valentine ass, should we have a live Coolest Thing
on Thursday. I will tell you that it's all. You're
always welcome to bring anything that you purchased at the
show or that you just wanted.
Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
Us to look at or show off. Uh you know,
Sean tells, just part of being in the show. Heck, yeah,
bring it. We'll do a live one. We'll do a
live Coolest Thing, because why not. We'll do it live,
all right, buddy, Well you ready, Yeah, I am ready.
Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
This has been uh, this has been really cool and
uh good turnout. So uh let me start by saying
thank you to everybody who showed up tonight and ask
your questions people send it to the Coolest Thing. I'd
also like to thank our men behind the glass tonight.
So we had justin Irvin and the unnamed source Berry Swan.
They were doing a bang up job of helping us
(01:13:15):
put this together tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
Our thanks to uh, to Ernesto and to Corey and
to Leanna for all the stuff that they do and
to Russ or just being Russ and uh no show
next week because we will be live, and then the
week after that will be a Coin Show hangout. With
(01:13:40):
this new format, I think the Coin Show Hangout, it's
gonna be a wild time. I would not recommend bringing children,
no the first time. I'm not gonna sway for the chandeliers. No.
But I also expect guys to see some content from
the show. I know, I have a couple of videos
that I want to make. If they don't throw me
(01:14:01):
out for doing it, we're gonna try and see how
it goes.
Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Yeah, and then we'll meet with people, and we'll meet
with you know, experts and things like that and just
try and bring in some really cool content.
Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
You might see some other YouTubers that you watch one.
Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
Yes, you've made very well. You may see Tee the Silverstacker,
who is actually now you know he's he's revealed his face.
He doesn't want to do it all the time, but
I mean there's visual evidence of what he looks like.
Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
Yeah, and we have a friend from Tucson flying in. Yes,
Bendicoin Geek is coming. He is gonna be a lot
of fun.
Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
Yeah, we got all kinds of friends coming to join us,
so this is really cool time.
Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
So we're gonna use an opportunity to make some fun
content for you guys.
Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
There you go. Yeah, so thank you again to everybody
who came tonight. Thank you for listening, and uh, send
me your comments on this new format mikey cooinshowradio dot com. Yeah,
do that. Let me know what you think and any
new ideas that you have that you'd like to see
(01:15:02):
us do. So for the Coinshow on Mike and I'm Matt,
We'll talk to you next time. Episode two thirty six
of the coin Show podcast.
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