August 25, 2024 • 52 mins
Episode Description
Join Mike and Matt for another awesome episode of The Coin Show Podcast, where they delve into the fascinating world of coins and currency. In this exciting installment, they cover a variety of engaging topics:
News in Numismatics: Stay up to date with the latest happenings in the coin collecting universe. Mike and Matt explore recent developments, news you should know, and noteworthy trends.
The Worlds Fair Of Money: The guys give us an update on their experiences at the 2024 ANA worlds Faor On Money.
A Game: Mike and Matt decide which coin they would collect, spend, and destroy.
Join Mike and Matt for another awesome episode of The Coin Show Podcast, where they delve into the fascinating world of coins and currency. In this exciting installment, they cover a variety of engaging topics:
News in Numismatics: Stay up to date with the latest happenings in the coin collecting universe. Mike and Matt explore recent developments, news you should know, and noteworthy trends.
The Worlds Fair Of Money: The guys give us an update on their experiences at the 2024 ANA worlds Faor On Money.
A Game: Mike and Matt decide which coin they would collect, spend, and destroy.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Coin Show Podcast, a podcast about coins
and coin collecting from the perspective of both dealers and collectors,
hosted by two guys with a passion for collecting and
a combined experience of over fifty years in the coin industry.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Here's Matt Dinger and Mike Noteleman on the Coin Show Podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
It is episode to thirty eight of The Coin Show Podcast.
I know we're getting there. I'm Mike and I'm Matt.
And on tonight's show, we are going to introduce a
brand new game. Ooh ooh yeah, no doubt, Matt, before
you start planning your exit, this is not an ambush game.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Oh good, Okay, then I'm in that game. Okay, I'm in.
I'm good.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
But we're going to play a game. We are going
to do the coolest thing we walked into our shops
this week, and we are going to talk about an epic,
epic world fair money. But first, as always, the news.
(01:17):
The news is brought to us by squirrels. Distracting dogs
and gathering acorns is all in a day's work. People
like to comment on our bushy tails, but we're most
proud of our nuts. Squirrels. I like that one.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Have you ever have your dog ever caught a squirrel?
You ever had that happen?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
It sucks, It sucks. It's not any fun, you know.
I had my dog get entangled twice with skunks. Oh yeah,
we had that. Squirrels to me, would seem like nothing
compared to skunks.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
We had a skunk one time. I didn't know it.
I went to let her back in the house, and
she bolted in the house and went and jumped straight
in my bed after getting skunked.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
It was the worst. Yeah, no, that would be the worst,
you know, tracking all that stuff up all right. So
NGC has certified an Olympic medal from the nineteen twenty
four Summer Olympic Games in Paris, And to be honest,
I did not appreciate the fact twenty four Summer Games,
you know, this year's twenty four Summer Games ors and
(02:18):
one hundred years ago.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
That was kind of a thing. Yeah, that's true. I
didn't even realize that.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Now they go on to say in the story that
the medal is really silver with a gold plating, as
are all the medals today. Isn't that funny?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
I read that somewhere the other day that the Olympic
gold medals have something only like six grams of gold
in them, which is like.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Or so five six bucks with the gold. Well, I
mean the value of the medal itself is is far
more than ours. But you think gold medal, you're like,
you know, like this is a big chunk of gold.
They can have displays with you know, like six seven
of them across because it's like, you know, ounce and
a half of silver. Yeah, yeah, well there you go.
So this is just it's a really cool it's a
(03:04):
really cool looking coin or a really cool looking metal.
I can't get much bigger of a picture of it.
I'm trying, that's okay. So the over shows somebody somebody
helping up a fallen competitor, and then the back shows
sports equipment laying over the top of I want to say,
a table with a harps. Hard to say from this picture.
(03:27):
I wish I could see a better Let me see
if I can, I will tell you. One of the
funniest things about the twenty four Summer Olympic Games being
in Paris was that they actually had an event that
took place in the Scent River. Yeah, they did a
thing about the Scent and that's really not a not
(03:47):
a really pleasing idea.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
They also had an answer took place in Tahiti, the
surface petition.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, oh yeah, because Tahiti is French. And now we
go to Guyana for part of the games. Yeah, so
it's it is interesting the Ana has recognized the new
Msmeatist of the Year and the young New Messmatist of
the Year. I know that guy. Yeah, you sure do that.
(04:14):
Barry no Winter. He's a friend of the Coin Show.
He's been on the show. He was the World's Fairest.
Matter of fact, I did too. He had no idea
who I was very nice, a really nice guy. Possibly
has forgotten more about gold than Matt and I know,
(04:35):
oh yes, yeah, just a really nice guy. If you
want to know something about gold. That that's kind of
like asking Rick s know all about Indian hadsense? Correct?
And who's our young new.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Mismatist rosny Uh. He's written articles for The A and
as Dmysmatist and Reading Room, and has given talks on
the topic of AI coin rating and modernizing themismatic business.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Okay, I like it. I like it. Then it looks
like they have some other awards as well. I was
the guy who portrays a Blincoln won an award, which
is very cool to see. Have you ever had a
lot of fun Dennis is a very nice guy.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
If you if you get to like get outside of
the show, it's pretty awesome and like sit down and
have a drink with a Blincoln.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, it's pretty cool. Well, it's it's like I remember
it was Central States and he was there and Jimmy,
who is uh Coleman Foster's grandson. He kind of looks
like John Wilkes boom in front of us and a
(05:38):
blink and is standing there talking to you know. Yeah,
it's just really funny. Oh my gosh, that's funny. He's
a great sense of humor. So Nebraska has their state
legislature was trying to pass a law to enable or
to disable the tax exemption for currency and bullion, and
(06:00):
they were able to put that down so it has remained.
It will remain tax free in the state of Nebraska.
You know, they don't realize that when they start taxing bullion,
coins and currency that they're pushing away a lot of business. Yeah, right,
you're not going to have any coin shows there. Well,
(06:22):
it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
It also pushes away the you know, local local business.
It drives more people, It drives more people to the
internet to order tax free. When why would they want
to go you know, why do they want to go back?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I can sell you the same thing, but I've got
to charge you more than you could. You know, it's like,
isn't that exactly how Amazon has become what they are? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Pretty much, my friend, pretty much. Yeah, so good for them.
You know, it's weird that the states are some of
the states are kind of slowly kind of swinging back
to kind of more of a moderate position. Like here
in Indiana, we had everything for a while, and then
now they've they've brought back in like anything that's not
nine nine nine gold is not exemptly krugar ants, twenty francs, sovereigns,
(07:04):
all that stuff, we're supposed to charge sales tax on it.
Well me, I don't need I just don't sell it
I whole.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
So right, But.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Lots of nipples, lots of buffaloes, Yeah, right, exactly, anything
that's pure or you know that has a certain exemption
on file, like American eagles. You know that stuff is fine,
but it's just that funky stuff that they decided they
want to charge tax on, so we just don't sell
them anymore.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah. No, I think there is only like three states
left in the Union that have tax on coins, you know.
And it's like, hey, if you know, Indianapolis would be
a great place for a show, but if you're going
to have.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
If traxtable, we'll never have on you. It's just happened, yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
A second known New England three pence has been discovered
and has been coincided to stacks.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
These are cool.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
There's only one known and this is a second one,
although they said they say in this article that there
was one that was stolen decades ago, and apparently there's
got to be some difference in the coins for them
to know that this isn't that one. Let me click
this link and see what it says. I don't want
it to be another uh who.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Stole the Yeah, this is an interesting story. Who's stole too?
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Well?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I mean that was you know they talk about one.
Well and here it says one of three known three.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Fences right, Well now it's three yeah, because of the
one that was stolen decades ago. But it's like, remember
the Walton specimen of the nineteen thirteen Nickel oh that's
not it. Well wait a minute, yeah, yess it is. So.
I mean, this is just an insanely rare coin and
(08:50):
it is one of the very first coins that was
made in the New World, you know, under the auspices
of the colonies. So yeah, I love that sixteen fifty
two day that they use for the the will of
Tree and the oak tree and the pine tree and
these things, because sixteen to fifty two there was no
king at that period, so they use that date to
kind of just say, oh, yeah, yeah, we made that
(09:10):
when there was a king. So there's no monitor cut it. Yep.
So very very cool. Yeah. The twenty twenty four mint
set is going to be available August twenty ninth, so
that's in one week. This year's set has the five
women on quarters, and you know, it's it's just your
(09:31):
typical average mintset. The problem with them is is that
the sales of them are just really low. They haven't
broken five hundred thousand in a couple of years. The price,
I think came down a little bit this year to
twenty nine bucks, which is still too much, but it's
better than the thirty two they've been charging.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Packaging is strange I can't quite make it out. Is
it's different this year bubble pack or Yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
A cardboard with a with a you know, a hard
plastic in between where the coins are huh interesting. Yeah,
so for the quarters are off to the side. It's
really actually the same exact packaging, just with a different cardboard.
Insert all right, different card.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
And the picture kind of makes it looks like it's
almost like shiny, like it has a foil aspect to it.
I don't yeah, well, I mean, I mean that would
be neat looking, but no, they are just gonna be
circulations strike coins. Well, yeah, of course I'm talking. I'm
looking at the packaging. The coins bore me because they're modern.
I'm looking at the packaging.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Whatever. Well, i'll tell you what it's like. I like
the women on Quarters program. Sure, I think it's it's
really sad that it's only gonna run four years and
then they're going to some stupid youth sports programs. Well,
there's so many, so many people that are that are
(10:53):
you know, fitting to have on a coin, and it
just ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Yeah, yeah, such as Paul Tanks, my friend.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yep. So this is absolutely going to be a hit.
This is the new twenty twenty four flowing hair silver metal.
They're going to make a gold version of this that
is actually going to be a five dollar gold I think,
or a one dollar gold. I take that back. It
will be a one dollar gold and it's going to
(11:21):
have an edge inscription on it that says, you know,
like the original, oh that's one dollar unit or one
hundred third unit one dollar, and this, the silver one,
is going to have a plane edge.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
I really like this design because they did a couple
of things with it that are actually really faithful to
the original designs. They did not touch up the bird
really and they left that turkey nick looking thing on there,
which is great.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I like that. I like that design and that's kind
of what's really accurate it does.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
And then they have like the hair curl even like
this is a way to determine some of the dyes
down here on the bottom hair curl. So they left that,
you know, kind of faithful to the original design, which
I think is cool.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Right. I'm glad they didn't modernize it. They didn't touch
it up, they didn't do anything little.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
They you know, they had to modernize the lettering and
stuff and the stars. But I mean as far as
the like design elements go, you know, the stars, I
did not, but the team.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
That's cool. Like I'm buying that. I mean, oh yeah absolutely.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
But here's the thing, so you know, this is talking
about the mintages of them. Why on earth would you
limit the mintage on this metal. You shouldn't. You should
just knock them out. That's the gold that it's going
to have that edge lettering going around. Okay, see one
dollar unit one hundred cents. Cool? I like that throwback. No,
(12:45):
that is going to be absolutely a hit. Yeah for sure.
Well this is you know, the what is it one
hundred and eightieth or one hundred? It was seventeen ninety four,
So you're talking to two hundred and thirtieth anniverse through
the men of this coin. Yeah, it was made in
seventeen ninety four for the first time. Here right, yeah,
(13:06):
right here said two thirtieth. Yep, there you go. I
was doing the math. What is it?
Speaker 4 (13:11):
What is the two hundred and thirtieth anniversary or something
called it's.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Called the two hundred and thirtieth anniversary.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Yeah, there's no special names. Two hundred thirtyth anniversary is
what it says.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
So yeah, so I think that they're doing this and
lead up to the semi Quin centennial and that they're
going to do another one next year, and they're going
to do another one. Hey see, gold the Gold next
year will be the anniversary of you know, two hundred
thirtieth anniversary of us producing gold coins.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Keep coming. I like this, I like this program. I
like this, And in.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Twenty twenty six you have the anniversary of the quarter. Yeah,
first quarter dollars seventeen ninety six. So I mean, you
can keep doing this, you can have fun with it.
I think that, you know, if you looked at the
first Spouse program, it was really popular when it first
came out because people looked really forward to those liberty designs.
(14:02):
And so I actually bought you know, Jefferson's Liberty. It
was a nice drape bust in gold. It was beautiful.
It was really nice. I like that kind of stuff.
But as they went through the series, they were changing
things a bit, so like the seated one didn't really
look quite you know, didn't look very faithful to the original. Yeah,
this is really faithful. As soon as I saw it,
(14:23):
I'm like, God, I gotta have that.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Ye doesn't say how much they are, Oh, one hundred
and four dollars four there, they are, one hundred.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
And four dollars for an ounce. Probably it's probably made
out of a silver dollar planet.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
I would guess you're probably right. But the morgans and
the piece, I would guess you're probably right. Household them
into five. I might just have to tap that one out.
All right, let's look at this next story.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
So Canada is celebrating the sixtieth anniversary of their Canadian
flag of the map maple leaf. Oh huh. And you
know what, it was funny because a couple of years
ago I learned that the Canadian flag had changed in
my lifetime. I didn't realize that. I thought it had
always been like that, and it was. No. Nineteen sixty
(15:10):
seven was when they are.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Nineteen sixty five proclaimed the new flag on January twenty eighth,
nineteen sixty five.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Right, they went from a red flag with a field
and to the white with the maypleief. Huh, very cool. Yeah,
And this one's kind of cool now, this one you
know colorized. You know, Canada's done that kind of stuff before.
Wait until you see where they go next, Oh, no,
(15:38):
what do we got? Just hit the button? Oh there's
no turtle. I like, I would be way better if
this was howling turtle. So there is a howling wolf
that is literally it pivots in the coin to come
out and howl away from this. That's bloody.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
Yeah, this reminds me of that T shirt you know
what I'm talking about? Uh, with the eighties T shirts
that are all like everybody's wearing stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
I'll see see I used to work with the guy
that had that as a tattoo. We'll see. There you go,
I bet he's buying one of these. He should, I
don't know, he should hit him up? Got another guitar.
Let's see. Next story, and our friend Jack Young has
posted another article on copper Nickel counterfeit CC half dollars.
(16:38):
And this is actually really cool because he shows in
this the you know, if you go and you look
up the certain numbers on these on these coins, they
don't even look like the real PCGS coins.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Right, well, see it looks like so there's He starts
it off saying, so I'll start with the newicks example,
and the Facebook and seller ads for the so this
shows up in your Facebook feed and you click on
it and takes you to this.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Eighteen seventy one seated Liberty silver House dollars.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Definitely a genuine coin in the picture. Yeah, and then
this is what you get in the mail. Who a
very terrible tea.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
It's it's in a slab too. Yeah, it's in a
piece of jet slab right there. That is one percent
illegal on multiple different levels. Oh god. Yeah. But Facebook
doesn't care. No, they don't care. And that's the look.
I got no problem saying it.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
They don't care. They just if you're paying their advertising,
they'll let it go. They don't have anybody that's a
coin expert there that knows this coin is fake or not.
They and they probably don't care to have one. So
that's why this problem exists.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
I I, it stinks, but it just is what it is. Yeah.
And so if you if you go and you look
up to certain numbers and you look at the true
views of these coins, they don't look anything like what's
in the what's in these slabs. Yeah, they didn't even try.
I mean, they're really bad. And then they're horrible. Let's see.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Then here's another one that says, here's the recent eBay
listening that prompted him to write this article. Scales always
added an image of authenticity. So here's a seventy two
cc half dollars sitting on a scale showing the weight
and poof, looks like a very similar coin, says. It
looks like there's a group of these that are being made.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
They all use a common reverse.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
They common reverse, and it looks like the only thing
they do is change out the obverse die.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
It has a bad nose and uh oh, it's it's
just awful scary stuff, you guys. Scary stuff. Oh, that's
why we have Jack that blessom he is doing. He
is doing the Lord's work on this, I'll tell you.
And finally in the news. So this is unique Canadian
(19:05):
quarter set that was overstruck by by a nineteen seventy
eight Canadian set. So if you think Shenanigan's is monopolized
by the United States, guess again, because it happens every place. Now,
these the only there's two ways that this can happen,
So you tell me which one it is. Because I
(19:25):
think that these were sent dies that were loaded into
a quarter size collar.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
No, maybe it's hard to say because they're they're not
in they're broad struck. Well, but so what it was
there's a quarter, it was struck already. These were already
struck quarters. So they're over over the top of a quarter.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Somebody just took a quarter and loaded it into a
scent press without a collar, and would.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Do that without without making a really huge broad strike
on it. Well, I mean, it would expand the quarter
little bit, but since the quarter is already larger than
the scent itself, I guess it's already struck. So a
lot of the metals compacted already. Also. Yeah, so yeah,
that's why I asked you that they took struck quarters
they put them into a cent press.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Well, and that's just that you're exactly right. This is
just somebody at the mint just you know.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yeah, there's no other way that it can. And then
on top of it, to find them all in one place, well,
right exactly. That's you know, that tells you that there's
just no question about it. There is.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Well, Mike Myers is the guy who's been doing this
stuff for a long time. If anybody was going to
have some goofy stuff like this, it would definitely be him.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
I mean, they're cool, but they are very cool. It
just just struck out a seventy three commendment quarter and
that's the thing.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Like, there was a lot of this going on at
the US Mint as well during that kind of that
same time period. I wonder if there's any kind of
relation to the person that maybe was doing both of
these things, because they did happen in very more times,
you know, in the US men as well, they were
doing all sorts of crazy stuff like this, you know,
behind closed doors are at night of the basement.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Yeah, I like to say the moonlight min No, that's
that's legitimate. We like Daniel and that's the news, and
the news tight was brought to us by squirrels distracting
dogs and gathering acorns all in a day's work. People
like to comment on our bushy tails, but we're most
proud of our nuts squirrels. That's a good one. I
(21:38):
like that one a lot.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
You're listening to the coin Show podcast with Matt Dinger
and Mike Notleman.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
So we are just getting back from an absolutely epic
a na it was a banger. I mean I only
spent one day this show. Like I like the last
couple and you know it was just too much to do.
Oh yeah, I mean I cover it in one day.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
You just can't like the room itself, Like you could
not see the wall, Like you looked across the room,
you couldn't see the other side, Like there were too
many people in the way. It was so far away
that standing people blocked the view of the wall.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Like that's how big this room was. It's and empty
boots were almost non existent. And they had the you know,
the big display. They had the Tyrant collection, they had
the Ana display, you know with the eighteen oh four dollars.
I almost knocked the call, I almost knocked over. You know.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
The thing that makes me kind of sad, But I
do this for a reason is I really didn't get
away from the table very much to go look at
these things, mostly because when I do that, I end
up buying stuff I don't need. So it's kind of
a personal thing that I just don't leave the table
if I can help it.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
So well, I mean, I I get one day to play,
so I don't spend a lot of time behind the table.
You spend a lot of time, you know what, buzzing
around talking to people. I spend some time at your table. Yep,
I spent some time at the Harlem Burke table. But
I mean sales were just really strong and there was
(23:19):
stuff every place. And what did I buy? I bought
uh five four innovation dollars and a book.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Oh well that's okay, Hey, I'm not you know, I
would expect nothing more from you. Actually, knowing you for
as long as I've known you that if you told
me that that's all you bought it a coinch, I'd
be like, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Well okay, so here tell me what the book is
is on ooh, you know, I have an interest in this.
I have an interest in this, and it has expanded
because of you.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Oh well, there you go. Then it's probably Canadian coinage.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Eating provincial coinage. I bought book on the provincial stuff.
There you go. Yeah, I love it. And Whitman was there.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
They didn't have their big setup like they normally do,
which is okay. I mean they've got a lot going
on right now with their CDN Whitman merger and and
all that. Yeah, they were there. They were there doing
their thing.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Obviously all the grading companies were there, PCGS and gc
c ACG, you know, all the paper mitegraders were there
as well. I did get to sit down with Ron
Javinski from c AC grading. If you haven't seen that video,
it's actually it should be everywhere if you haven't seen
the out was good. We got to talk about some
things that they're getting into here lately. And I keep
(24:36):
digging trying to get that scoop out of him, but
he's too smart for me. He won't give them to me.
So I'm gonna keep trying.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
You know, the show itself, we got in Monday. The
A and A is a week long festival of nerds,
like coin nerds, it is what it is. And we
got in Monday if we did a little bit of
hotel sales in our room, and then Tuesday we were
able to get in and move into the show. So
we were there on the floor from Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday, Friday,
(25:06):
and Saturday at a Quinn show.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Yes, and you were there later most Uh.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Yeah, we stayed. Like Saturdays are tough because you know,
we've been there all week. We're ready to go home,
but we don't have to catch a flight, so it's
like I can stay a little longer if I feel
like it, you know, if I feel like the show
is worth being there for if there's lots of people
running around, you.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Know, I'll stay.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
And so we ended up leaving probably about two o'clock
I think, and got home. But I mean, the show
is just killer, and I'm so glad that I did
leave on Saturday because I got to meet some really
cool people that you're going to see here in just
a little bit. So absolutely, it was a it was
a great show for us. We sold a ton of stuff.
We came back with, Like I think we took.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Ten double row boxes of slabs and twenty double row
boxes of raw, and I came back with a box
and a half of slabs and no raw. So yeah,
we did just an inordinate amount of business at both
the Ancient World table and at the US table. It's
like it was just we sold almost everything. Russ. It's
(26:12):
like when you come Friday, brings some stuff because we're empty,
you know, Like like I try to do that.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
I try to go to these shows and wholesale stuff
because I don't want my inventory in the office to
get stale. Like three or four months of being in
my office and not selling across the counter.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah, it's time to go. So that's why we do that,
and that's that's what we were dealing with there. And
speaking of what we do is if you like what
Matt and I do, please hit the like button. I
like that. That's good. Yeah, that was very good. That
was professional. So I got to bust around the show
and see some people and guests who I ran into,
(26:55):
the honorable Venus Gibson in director nice doctor, and ms
Gibson has has agreed to come back on our show.
We get to talk to the man director again. We
will talk to her again. So for all you guys
that thought that I ambushed her, that I went after her,
I will tell you that she did not agree with
(27:16):
you and uh and it actually told me that I
did what I was supposed to do. Ask questions. Yeah,
that's true. Well and she had a great answer too,
so I will give her credit with that. So here's
a little here's a little preview, because you know, her
and I were talking about, you know, the the what
I went after about, right, it was about the mint website.
(27:39):
And after we were done talking about your reaction to
all of this and what it meant, she looked at me,
she waked at me, and she goes, but I fixed it,
didn't I you did? I like it. So yeah, and
that's that's really good.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
And we also have maybe some news coming out of
the November Baltimore show, potentially a few things out there.
But it is entirely possible that your boy and your
boy this way, this way over here may be very
well attending the Baltimore Show and running around and making videos.
So we'll see, we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
So those are who only are around for East Coast silliness, yep,
silliness and crabcakes. I can't wait. I've never been to Baltimore.
Oh well, you just don't, don't wander too far. You'll
be fine. I'm stick with you, Bud.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
It's fun. It's a good place. And we'll go to
LP Steamers one night. If you've never been to Baltimore
or the coin show there, LP Steamers great place. So yeah,
I mean, we've got a lot of stuff coming on. Uh.
The other cool thing about the Baltimore thing is I.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Think there might be like a little area that's like
secluded on the area that we can talk to people
and bring people into and not have to worry about things.
So yeah, and We're going to have you know, complete
camera access for everything. So that's the cool part.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Yeah, that was the That was a very interesting part
of when I when I did it before, it was like, oh,
I've never really been able to just holl I can
go do whatever I want. Like normally it's I have
to be real careful when I'm filming things because I
don't want people to get mad at me. But when
they tell me to go film things, it's okay.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
And to be honest with it, it's like they haven't
gotten mad yet either.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Well no, no, I get you know, it's just just
what it is. Like the A, the A and H Show,
they really don't like you running around with cameras. I've
talked to them about it. You know, you have I
have a certain set of rules we have to kind
of stay in to be able to shoot videos there.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
And well, I mean we don't want business deals and
things like that being captured on for.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
People that don't want to be in the video in
the background, like I get it.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
I mean it's fine, I understand. But for the people
who do want to be in it, it's great. We'll
do it. So that's coming up.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
I guess, like I said, finished hash hashing out those
details and the other cool thing about Baltimore. I guess
what's really close to Baltimore, DC?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Washington, d C. Yes, in Washington, d C. Uh, it's
the only Income Memorial, the National Numismatic Collection of the Smithsonia. Yes,
it's the Smithsonian. But are we gonna have time to
go to Washington? Well, part of our deal might be
getting a private tour of the National Numismatic Collection. Won,
(30:20):
and so I don't know, we'll see, Okay, I know
about that part. Working on things, okay, buddy. So anyways, we.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Can do with that and let you know more as
that gets closer and as I get those details hammered
out so.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Hore to coom watches space. We will be bringing you
more details as they become available. I'll send them on
the Baltimore because we will definitely be there, you know,
good learn willing, we'll be there, and uh, we're gonna
have a good time, Yes we are.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Yeah, all right, buddy, Well, we have a game that
you wanted to play. And I don't even know why
I'm reminding.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
You of this. I normally would I hope you would
forget about a game and move on But well, it's
because you've already kind of gotten a preview of a game,
so you know, it's it's a lot of fun. Well,
it's always been a lot of fun to kind of
surprise Matt with a game because he was a dealer
and I was a collector, and it was just kind
(31:19):
of good for my ego to you know, Gota enjoyed
making me look dumb without telling me he was going
to make me look dumb. But I didn't make you
look dumb. You tried, I did, I didn't. I did.
I gave him my best shot. So you have a
(31:39):
new game. And I think that this is something that
that the group in chat is really going to like.
I think that going forward, we're going to play this
probably more than a couple of times. So the idea
is this, if you know there's a there's a game.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Called I can't say that one on the show.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Yeah, no, it's it's blank Mary Kill right, Yeah, where
you have to you have to pick one to you know,
be romantic with one to one to marry and you
have to kill somebody. Well, we're gonna do that with coins,
and it's going to be it's going to be collect
collect spend, spend or destroy, and you're gonna be given
(32:21):
three coins. You have to you have to collect one,
spend one, and destroy one. All right, give me one.
Let's let's find for an example, two and a half
five and ten dollars idiot. Okay, so I'm collecting ten Indians,
I'm gonna spend the five Indians, and I'm going to
(32:43):
destroy the two and a half Indians. Fair enough, getting
rid of the little guys. Yeah, yeah, I think that's
just the way is. I like tens.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
That's like my favorite coin of US current US money
ever in the history of manon dinosaurs and then five
and two and a half have the same design, so
it's it's kind of easier to just smoke one of those.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
So I want everybody in the chat to play along
with us and enter your answer says to what you
would do or if you have a threesome you know
that you'd like to offer.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
I've got one, Okay, let's hear it. Modern coins, vintage
coins or paper money.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
That's easy. Oh yeah, yeah, it's easy for you, it is.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
Let's see what the let's see the chat has to say.
You guys, pick modern coins, vintage coins or paper money.
You can collect one, you can spend one, and you
can destroy one.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
But you have to destroy one. Yeah, that's okay, you
can only collect one, right then the other one's got
to be coin of the realm. And he god deemon
collected to spend moderns, destroy paper, and he says, too easy.
What's your here is, Mike, I would actually be the
collect vintage, spend paper, destroy moderns. What there's too many
(34:10):
of them?
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Okay, I like it, Jackson's see.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
And the funny thing is this gives us.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Kind of an idea of what are people that are
watching the show are into. Yes, this is like market research.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Kind of animal. Collect vintage, spend currency, destroy modern There
you go. See that was the same with me. So
all right, well see here's another one for you, okay.
Eighteen oh four dollars nineteen thirteen v nickel eighteen ninety
four US time.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Well, I'm gonna say I'm going to collect nineteen thirteen
nickels because those to me seem to be the most
rare of the three. I mean, the eighteen oh four
dollars are a bunch of different kinds of eighteen oh
four dollars and have the certain finishes to them and
they were done and said, so, you know, I think
I would. I'd spend the eighteen oh four dollar and
then ninety four half times. You just spend them on
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ice cream. That's that's what I would do. So you
would destroy the thirteen v nickel. No, I would collect
the thirteen venickels. Okay, I would spend the eighteen oh
four and you were the eighteen ninety four dimes. No,
you're right, I'm sorry backwards, I would I would. I
would spend the ninety four dimes and I would destroy
(35:26):
the eighteen oh four dollars my fault.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Okay, okay, that's fair. There's only seven of them that
you're that you're doing that too. I mean I would
take it. I think from a different uh way. I
would definitely destroy the nineteen thirteen venickels. They have absolutely
no problem with that one. It's a venickel and I
hate them. I just hate vehicles. There's there's nothing appealing
about that series to me at all. And so that's easy.
(35:49):
It's like I would collect the eighteen oh four dollars
because there are different ones to collect, and the eighteen
ninety four US dime there's twenty four of them. You
can spend those, yeah, already sort of common you somebody
already did on ice cream. Let's see. So, uh, that
was that was justin Irvin's idea. So this one is
(36:10):
from uh, from the millennial numismatist oh Russell thirty three
double Eagle seventy s halftime Brasher to Blue. Ooh, I
mean this is evil.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
So like the government, I'm going to destroy the thirty
three double Eagles, I'm going to collect the Brasher to blues.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
And I'm going to spend the other one whichever it
was seventy s halftime, seventy years half time. Yeah, that's fine,
I'll spend that gay. See, I personally would have to
go with I'm with you. I'm destroying the twenty thirty
three double Eagles. Yeah, that's that's easy. They shouldn't have
been anyway. That's that's fine. I'm no problem. The world
(37:02):
can live without them. But you know it's it's which
one do you want, so Diaz or the Brasher to
blooe And it's like, that's that's that's the hard one.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
I think the Brasher to Blue is a much more
autistically pleasing coin, and it is much more historic in
my opinion.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Adam jam says, burn the brasher, spend the time, collect
the eagle. Okay, see that's we're good market research here. Yeah.
Like let's see, uh, this one was me and Justin
who came together on this one. The glass scent. Oh okay,
an aluminum scent or in eighteen thirty s seated eighteen
(37:45):
thirty eight seated quarter.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
That is a wicked, wild roller coaster of emotions there. Yes,
I'm going to the glass scent. I'm going to drop
it and break it because I just would. I'm going
to spend the other modern sent and I'm gonna collect
the old coin because that's how I roll.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
You're gonna spend the aluminum cent yep. See, I will
destroy the illuminum scent. And it's like these groupings are
wrong for me because it's like there's a coin in
there in each of these that wasn't supposed to be
and so for me, it's like, okay, poof gone.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
Well, let's see if I can come up with one
that is going to be a hard decision for you.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Well okay, And in the meantime, I've got another one
for you. This one is my own personal evil. Okay,
because I can't figure out which one. I'm gonna go
with this one. Nineteen ninety nine w saka Juwia Dollar.
It's been up on the Space Shuttle. The gold ones, Yeah, yeah, okay,
(38:50):
eighteen forty nine twenty dollars gold, forty four S steel.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
Sent hmm, well, I'm gonna collect the forty nine gold.
I'm going to spend those sacageyas because they're modern, and
I'm going to destroy the other.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
You to destroy the forty four US steel sent. Yeah,
it's unique matter. There's only one matter. It's gone forever,
thrown into the event. Okay, melted, shredded, whatever, Bye, what
you know? What's yours on this one? You said this
was your personal hand, this personal well, I just wanted
(39:30):
to throw And if you guys want to give me
new ones going forward, then it's like send them to me,
mikeycoinshow Radio dot Com. I'll take all your suggestions and
will address them at some point in the future because
I think this is a fun game. All says this
game is going to give a night marriage. Well, it
was at a dream crusher me. Personally, I think I
(39:51):
would have to I would have to destroy the ninety
nine w secretarys. Again with the logic of they weren't
supposed to be there was no authorization for them. Yeah,
I mean, well there was or no, they weren't ninety
nine ws. There were two thousand ws ws.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
They were made with the same authorized but they were
ninety nine so they're technically illegal anyway, their patterns.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
They sent them up on they sent them up on
the Space Shuttle.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
And now they reside in the Smithsonian.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Uh yeah, and Fort Knox, I thought. But yeah, so
it's like they're made on half eagle or half ounce
blanks half ounce equal blanks. So I would have to
destroy that. I would collect the eighteen forty nine twenty
dollars and I would spend the forty four ascent too.
Very cool. It's really hard because you know it's it's
(40:52):
just a steel sent Yeah, and at the end of
the day, it has very limited appeal with that forty
nine to twenty dollars gold that's the fair first.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Yeah, I mean I guess you're probably right there. Uh.
Indigon Demon throws up nineteen oh one s Quarter nineteen
sixteen standing Liberty Quarter sixteen d mark Okay, hmmm.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
I had to collect well like coins. It would be
the nineteen sixteen standing Liberty Quarter simply for the esthetic
purposes of that particular coin, I just like it. I
would spend the nineteen sixteen D nine because that's what
happened to most of them anyways, and I would destroy
the O one S quarter.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Wow, which is what happened to most of them anyway. Correct.
You know, history repeat itself. So I would have to
say that I really have a hard time disagreeing with
you on it, but I think, just from a rariny standpoint,
I would still go with the O one S quarter
and I would spend the sixteen and then I'd destroy
(41:58):
the marks. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
Yeah, Well, I mean it's a flip flop. You can
flip flop those and I can see it either way.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
And finally, our last one for tonight, okay, Silver Center
Scent seventeen ninety five to ten dollars gold nineteen oh seven,
extremely high relief proof twenty.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
So I'm going to collect the seventeen ninety five simply
because that coin is a circulation strike. There are no
specimens aproofs of that particular coin, so all those coins
had to go into circulation at some point it's twenty yep.
I would destroy the Silver Center Scent because who cares
about that? And then I would spend those Ultrahi release
(42:45):
and have people look at me funny.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
So there you go. It's hard to argue that logic. Yeah,
I know, I have sound logic as my children. I mean,
I would probably burn the seventeen ninety five. Why it's
a circulation strike coin.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
So the only the reason I would collect it would
be the reason you would destroy it.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
Yeah, because this Silver Center Scent is such a historic
coin as far as being one of the very first. Yeah.
But the thing that those is like, that's the great
thing about this game. Yeah, that's true. But we both
agree that the nineteen oh seven Double Eagles have got
to go. I mean, I think they're gorgeous coins. I
love them, but Ultra high relief they're great. There's you know,
(43:29):
I mean a handful of them. That's it. But you're
out of here. You're out of here. That's it.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
Well, last, but not least tonight, friend, we have one
more thing to get to.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Yes we do. Are you ready? Yeah? And as a
matter of fact, uh, I'm even gonna let you go first.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
Oh well, that means I gotta get over to mash Butt. Okay, guys,
it's time for the coolest thing where Matt beats up
on Mike and Mike cries about it later.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
So here we go this.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
I bought this at the ANA, so it walked up
to my table at the ANA. This is a nineteen
oh two national bank note from the First National Bank
of Cripple Creek, Colorado. This is an exceedingly rare note
from the base of Pike's Peak in an area that
(44:24):
was a massive, massive gold mining area, so much so
that they actually had to mint tokens out of gold
for commerce in the area. So stupid rare note. There
are exactly five of these known to exist in the
whole world.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
This is one of them. Was this note unissued because
signed it?
Speaker 4 (44:43):
It's hard to say. Sometimes these signatures get washed out.
Sometimes they I don't see any trace of them, But
that doesn't mean anything, right, It's very possible that it
has just been washed a couple of times. But with
these notes, sometimes a note like this could be the
best one to exist because all the others are turns.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
Yeah, well absolutely, it's like as rare as this is,
it may very well be that case.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
Yeah, and Colorado Nationals in general are stupid rare, I
mean like exceedingly exceedingly rare.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
In general, so very cool note.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
Now the other note that this note was sitting next
to another note that was also brought up to my table,
which was from Tombstone, Arizona, which I almost bought as well,
but these are these are five figure notes, so I
didn't want to.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
Well, this one also has a song. This one also
has a song for it by the band. Oh yeah, I'm.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
Sure there's lots of lots of history that if you
get a chance, read up on Cripple Creek, Colorado, very
very fascinating history. I thought it was cool. That was
my coolest thing.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
But I have another coldest thing. You do have another
coolest thing. But before you get to that coolest thing,
I just want to make one more comment about this
coolest thing. Very cool, but modern ish. It's a nineteen
thirteen note.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
Well it's a series in ninety ohe two. But yes,
I get what you're saying. That was probably still a
pretty wild place in nineteen thirteen.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
So Denver Mint was open yep. And then the other
coolest thing happened at the end of the day. I
was sitting at my desk.
Speaker 4 (46:14):
At my table at the show, working on something on
the computer, and I hear the guys yell at me
and I said hold on. I was second, hey, hold on,
and I'm like, all right, I'll be there in a second,
and the yelped me again.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
I turned around and this is what I see, because
probably fifteen minutes later.
Speaker 4 (46:28):
Yep, I see these two fine folks walk up open
their shirts and they were the coolest thing to walk
into the show.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
My mind was blown.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
It was absolutely the most amazing thing I saw at
the show.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
So much fun. These guys were great.
Speaker 4 (46:45):
Yeah, that's another coolest thing. Sorry, I had to. I
had to ring too, But to be.
Speaker 3 (46:48):
Honest with you, it's like you could have just done
that and he could have both retired and walked away.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
Yeah, because that was obviously the coolest thing period. But
like I said, this was on Saturday when a lot
of people were leaving. These guys came in on Saturday
because the young guy had school and sometimes folks just
can't get in with the young kids, you know, during
the week. So that's why we stayed on Saturday. And
I'm so glad I did, because these guys were awesome.
They came all the way to the show to see
(47:14):
us and have a good time at a coin show.
And they sure did because I ran into a couple
of times out on the floor. So I'll tell you
what I love that. I really really loved that. It
was fun, it was it was a great, great thing,
and I was really really happy. It made my whole show.
I even posted it on socials. It made my whole show.
So let me get back over to yours now.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Yah, since you mailed it in, I'm going to give
everybody something that they really wanted. Okay, I really got
to stop bashing on his on his coolest thing. I'm
just trying to make a point tonight because I can
get my blood kicked. So this coin is not the
coolest thing that walked into the shop, but the coolest
(47:56):
thing that walked into my my personal collection. Oh so
this coin comes from and I'd like you to go
to the third picture that one. This one comes from
a very very famous numismatist. B. Max Mel was a
numismatist in Fort Worth in the late eighteen hundreds and
(48:17):
early nineteen hundreds, and this was from an auction of
his and it was a lot number sixty nine. It
is a five francs from you know, France, of course,
and this one sold for a dollar sixty. But this
one is an eighteen eleven five francs that has Napoleon
(48:39):
on it. Yep. So this is now you can go back, okay.
So this is this is Napoleon the First, the Emperor
of France in all his glory. This coin is about
size of a silver dollar. It is coinsilver, and it
is the French Empire of eighteen eleven to So I
think his second time around. That's cool. I mean I
(49:02):
love those coins. Yeah. I just like this the history
of it. It's not only it's not only who could
have touched it in France, but it's who touched it
here and there's proof of it.
Speaker 4 (49:14):
I wonder if you can go back and find which
auction it was lot number sixty nine, and I bet
you could.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
I can't. If I go back and I look at
I just do a quick search and Newman Numismatic portal
and use the use the keywords of you know, sixty
nine and then Napoleon eighteen eleven five franc I'm sure
it would come up with a single result. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (49:36):
Probably probably you can probably figure out exactly the day
that coin was sold.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
Yep, that's cool. Yeah, and it stayed in that collection
for an awfully long time because I noticed this bag
was sitting under somebody's bed for about fifty years. And
so this is a memento of that absolutely huge deal
that I bought that had all the coins from b
Max mel and from Chapman. There you go. So I
(50:02):
wanted something for my collection, my personal collection that came
from the biggest coin deal I've ever dealt with.
Speaker 4 (50:08):
And Eric says, so I'm not the only one who
buys coin is because the flip or the envelope attend.
Speaker 3 (50:12):
Yeah, I want her to do that. Yeah, it's a thing.
It's a real nerdy thing to do, but it's great.
Speaker 4 (50:19):
It's it's how you know you've entered coin the pinnacle
of coin nerdom when you start doing stuff like that
or like my coolest thing last show was the Tone Gold,
Like that's coin nerdom at its finest. Yes, so yeah,
you are one of us. You are one of us,
and you are welcome.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
Yes, hug. So, uh, these will be the choices that
you have on the poll this week that berry will
launch on our Friends of the Coin Show page on Facebook,
and I urge you to go in and vote for
me and and give me a victory. I need a
w There is a lot of stuff happening with the
(50:59):
show right now. Things are bobbing and weaving, yeah and uh,
and we're taking you guys for the ride. So you know,
we appreciate all your support. We appreciate everybody that comes
to watch and listen and who gives us their ideas.
We'd like to thank Justin for being behind the glass
today and taking care of everything that we do. And uh,
(51:22):
you know, thank you, Matt, Thank you to everybody listened,
Cuz without you, this whole endeavor is pointless. And uh,
we will talk to you next time on episode two
thirty nine of the Coin Show podcast.
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Here's Matt Dinger and Mike Noteleman on the Coin Show Podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
It is episode to thirty eight of The Coin Show Podcast.
I know we're getting there. I'm Mike and I'm Matt.
And on tonight's show, we are going to introduce a
brand new game. Ooh ooh yeah, no doubt, Matt, before
you start planning your exit, this is not an ambush game.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Oh good, Okay, then I'm in that game. Okay, I'm in.
I'm good.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
But we're going to play a game. We are going
to do the coolest thing we walked into our shops
this week, and we are going to talk about an epic,
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and gathering acorns is all in a day's work. People
like to comment on our bushy tails, but we're most
proud of our nuts. Squirrels. I like that one.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Have you ever have your dog ever caught a squirrel?
You ever had that happen?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
It sucks, It sucks. It's not any fun, you know.
I had my dog get entangled twice with skunks. Oh yeah,
we had that. Squirrels to me, would seem like nothing
compared to skunks.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
We had a skunk one time. I didn't know it.
I went to let her back in the house, and
she bolted in the house and went and jumped straight
in my bed after getting skunked.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
It was the worst. Yeah, no, that would be the worst,
you know, tracking all that stuff up all right. So
NGC has certified an Olympic medal from the nineteen twenty
four Summer Olympic Games in Paris, And to be honest,
I did not appreciate the fact twenty four Summer Games,
you know, this year's twenty four Summer Games ors and
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one hundred years ago.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
That was kind of a thing. Yeah, that's true. I
didn't even realize that.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Now they go on to say in the story that
the medal is really silver with a gold plating, as
are all the medals today. Isn't that funny?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
I read that somewhere the other day that the Olympic
gold medals have something only like six grams of gold
in them, which is like.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Or so five six bucks with the gold. Well, I
mean the value of the medal itself is is far
more than ours. But you think gold medal, you're like,
you know, like this is a big chunk of gold.
They can have displays with you know, like six seven
of them across because it's like, you know, ounce and
a half of silver. Yeah, yeah, well there you go.
So this is just it's a really cool it's a
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really cool looking coin or a really cool looking metal.
I can't get much bigger of a picture of it.
I'm trying, that's okay. So the over shows somebody somebody
helping up a fallen competitor, and then the back shows
sports equipment laying over the top of I want to say,
a table with a harps. Hard to say from this picture.
(03:27):
I wish I could see a better Let me see
if I can, I will tell you. One of the
funniest things about the twenty four Summer Olympic Games being
in Paris was that they actually had an event that
took place in the Scent River. Yeah, they did a
thing about the Scent and that's really not a not
(03:47):
a really pleasing idea.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
They also had an answer took place in Tahiti, the
surface petition.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, oh yeah, because Tahiti is French. And now we
go to Guyana for part of the games. Yeah, so
it's it is interesting the Ana has recognized the new
Msmeatist of the Year and the young New Messmatist of
the Year. I know that guy. Yeah, you sure do that.
(04:14):
Barry no Winter. He's a friend of the Coin Show.
He's been on the show. He was the World's Fairest.
Matter of fact, I did too. He had no idea
who I was very nice, a really nice guy. Possibly
has forgotten more about gold than Matt and I know,
(04:35):
oh yes, yeah, just a really nice guy. If you
want to know something about gold. That that's kind of
like asking Rick s know all about Indian hadsense? Correct?
And who's our young new.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Mismatist rosny Uh. He's written articles for The A and
as Dmysmatist and Reading Room, and has given talks on
the topic of AI coin rating and modernizing themismatic business.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Okay, I like it. I like it. Then it looks
like they have some other awards as well. I was
the guy who portrays a Blincoln won an award, which
is very cool to see. Have you ever had a
lot of fun Dennis is a very nice guy.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
If you if you get to like get outside of
the show, it's pretty awesome and like sit down and
have a drink with a Blincoln.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, it's pretty cool. Well, it's it's like I remember
it was Central States and he was there and Jimmy,
who is uh Coleman Foster's grandson. He kind of looks
like John Wilkes boom in front of us and a
(05:38):
blink and is standing there talking to you know. Yeah,
it's just really funny. Oh my gosh, that's funny. He's
a great sense of humor. So Nebraska has their state
legislature was trying to pass a law to enable or
to disable the tax exemption for currency and bullion, and
(06:00):
they were able to put that down so it has remained.
It will remain tax free in the state of Nebraska.
You know, they don't realize that when they start taxing bullion,
coins and currency that they're pushing away a lot of business. Yeah, right,
you're not going to have any coin shows there. Well,
(06:22):
it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
It also pushes away the you know, local local business.
It drives more people, It drives more people to the
internet to order tax free. When why would they want
to go you know, why do they want to go back?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I can sell you the same thing, but I've got
to charge you more than you could. You know, it's like,
isn't that exactly how Amazon has become what they are? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Pretty much, my friend, pretty much. Yeah, so good for them.
You know, it's weird that the states are some of
the states are kind of slowly kind of swinging back
to kind of more of a moderate position. Like here
in Indiana, we had everything for a while, and then
now they've they've brought back in like anything that's not
nine nine nine gold is not exemptly krugar ants, twenty francs, sovereigns,
(07:04):
all that stuff, we're supposed to charge sales tax on it.
Well me, I don't need I just don't sell it
I whole.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
So right, But.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Lots of nipples, lots of buffaloes, Yeah, right, exactly, anything
that's pure or you know that has a certain exemption
on file, like American eagles. You know that stuff is fine,
but it's just that funky stuff that they decided they
want to charge tax on, so we just don't sell
them anymore.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah. No, I think there is only like three states
left in the Union that have tax on coins, you know.
And it's like, hey, if you know, Indianapolis would be
a great place for a show, but if you're going
to have.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
If traxtable, we'll never have on you. It's just happened, yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
A second known New England three pence has been discovered
and has been coincided to stacks.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
These are cool.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
There's only one known and this is a second one,
although they said they say in this article that there
was one that was stolen decades ago, and apparently there's
got to be some difference in the coins for them
to know that this isn't that one. Let me click
this link and see what it says. I don't want
it to be another uh who.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Stole the Yeah, this is an interesting story. Who's stole too?
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Well?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I mean that was you know they talk about one.
Well and here it says one of three known three.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Fences right, Well now it's three yeah, because of the
one that was stolen decades ago. But it's like, remember
the Walton specimen of the nineteen thirteen Nickel oh that's
not it. Well wait a minute, yeah, yess it is. So.
I mean, this is just an insanely rare coin and
(08:50):
it is one of the very first coins that was
made in the New World, you know, under the auspices
of the colonies. So yeah, I love that sixteen fifty
two day that they use for the the will of
Tree and the oak tree and the pine tree and
these things, because sixteen to fifty two there was no
king at that period, so they use that date to
kind of just say, oh, yeah, yeah, we made that
(09:10):
when there was a king. So there's no monitor cut it. Yep.
So very very cool. Yeah. The twenty twenty four mint
set is going to be available August twenty ninth, so
that's in one week. This year's set has the five
women on quarters, and you know, it's it's just your
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typical average mintset. The problem with them is is that
the sales of them are just really low. They haven't
broken five hundred thousand in a couple of years. The price,
I think came down a little bit this year to
twenty nine bucks, which is still too much, but it's
better than the thirty two they've been charging.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Packaging is strange I can't quite make it out. Is
it's different this year bubble pack or Yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
A cardboard with a with a you know, a hard
plastic in between where the coins are huh interesting. Yeah,
so for the quarters are off to the side. It's
really actually the same exact packaging, just with a different cardboard.
Insert all right, different card.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
And the picture kind of makes it looks like it's
almost like shiny, like it has a foil aspect to it.
I don't yeah, well, I mean, I mean that would
be neat looking, but no, they are just gonna be
circulations strike coins. Well, yeah, of course I'm talking. I'm
looking at the packaging. The coins bore me because they're modern.
I'm looking at the packaging.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Whatever. Well, i'll tell you what it's like. I like
the women on Quarters program. Sure, I think it's it's
really sad that it's only gonna run four years and
then they're going to some stupid youth sports programs. Well,
there's so many, so many people that are that are
(10:53):
you know, fitting to have on a coin, and it
just ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Yeah, yeah, such as Paul Tanks, my friend.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yep. So this is absolutely going to be a hit.
This is the new twenty twenty four flowing hair silver metal.
They're going to make a gold version of this that
is actually going to be a five dollar gold I think,
or a one dollar gold. I take that back. It
will be a one dollar gold and it's going to
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have an edge inscription on it that says, you know,
like the original, oh that's one dollar unit or one
hundred third unit one dollar, and this, the silver one,
is going to have a plane edge.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
I really like this design because they did a couple
of things with it that are actually really faithful to
the original designs. They did not touch up the bird
really and they left that turkey nick looking thing on there,
which is great.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I like that. I like that design and that's kind
of what's really accurate it does.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
And then they have like the hair curl even like
this is a way to determine some of the dyes
down here on the bottom hair curl. So they left that,
you know, kind of faithful to the original design, which
I think is cool.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Right. I'm glad they didn't modernize it. They didn't touch
it up, they didn't do anything little.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
They you know, they had to modernize the lettering and
stuff and the stars. But I mean as far as
the like design elements go, you know, the stars, I
did not, but the team.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
That's cool. Like I'm buying that. I mean, oh yeah absolutely.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
But here's the thing, so you know, this is talking
about the mintages of them. Why on earth would you
limit the mintage on this metal. You shouldn't. You should
just knock them out. That's the gold that it's going
to have that edge lettering going around. Okay, see one
dollar unit one hundred cents. Cool? I like that throwback. No,
(12:45):
that is going to be absolutely a hit. Yeah for sure.
Well this is you know, the what is it one
hundred and eightieth or one hundred? It was seventeen ninety four,
So you're talking to two hundred and thirtieth anniverse through
the men of this coin. Yeah, it was made in
seventeen ninety four for the first time. Here right, yeah,
(13:06):
right here said two thirtieth. Yep, there you go. I
was doing the math. What is it?
Speaker 4 (13:11):
What is the two hundred and thirtieth anniversary or something
called it's.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Called the two hundred and thirtieth anniversary.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Yeah, there's no special names. Two hundred thirtyth anniversary is
what it says.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
So yeah, so I think that they're doing this and
lead up to the semi Quin centennial and that they're
going to do another one next year, and they're going
to do another one. Hey see, gold the Gold next
year will be the anniversary of you know, two hundred
thirtieth anniversary of us producing gold coins.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Keep coming. I like this, I like this program. I
like this, And in.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Twenty twenty six you have the anniversary of the quarter. Yeah,
first quarter dollars seventeen ninety six. So I mean, you
can keep doing this, you can have fun with it.
I think that, you know, if you looked at the
first Spouse program, it was really popular when it first
came out because people looked really forward to those liberty designs.
(14:02):
And so I actually bought you know, Jefferson's Liberty. It
was a nice drape bust in gold. It was beautiful.
It was really nice. I like that kind of stuff.
But as they went through the series, they were changing
things a bit, so like the seated one didn't really
look quite you know, didn't look very faithful to the original. Yeah,
this is really faithful. As soon as I saw it,
(14:23):
I'm like, God, I gotta have that.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Ye doesn't say how much they are, Oh, one hundred
and four dollars four there, they are, one hundred.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
And four dollars for an ounce. Probably it's probably made
out of a silver dollar planet.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
I would guess you're probably right. But the morgans and
the piece, I would guess you're probably right. Household them
into five. I might just have to tap that one out.
All right, let's look at this next story.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
So Canada is celebrating the sixtieth anniversary of their Canadian
flag of the map maple leaf. Oh huh. And you
know what, it was funny because a couple of years
ago I learned that the Canadian flag had changed in
my lifetime. I didn't realize that. I thought it had
always been like that, and it was. No. Nineteen sixty
(15:10):
seven was when they are.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Nineteen sixty five proclaimed the new flag on January twenty eighth,
nineteen sixty five.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Right, they went from a red flag with a field
and to the white with the maypleief. Huh, very cool. Yeah,
And this one's kind of cool now, this one you
know colorized. You know, Canada's done that kind of stuff before.
Wait until you see where they go next, Oh, no,
(15:38):
what do we got? Just hit the button? Oh there's
no turtle. I like, I would be way better if
this was howling turtle. So there is a howling wolf
that is literally it pivots in the coin to come
out and howl away from this. That's bloody.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
Yeah, this reminds me of that T shirt you know
what I'm talking about? Uh, with the eighties T shirts
that are all like everybody's wearing stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
I'll see see I used to work with the guy
that had that as a tattoo. We'll see. There you go,
I bet he's buying one of these. He should, I
don't know, he should hit him up? Got another guitar.
Let's see. Next story, and our friend Jack Young has
posted another article on copper Nickel counterfeit CC half dollars.
(16:38):
And this is actually really cool because he shows in
this the you know, if you go and you look
up the certain numbers on these on these coins, they
don't even look like the real PCGS coins.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Right, well, see it looks like so there's He starts
it off saying, so I'll start with the newicks example,
and the Facebook and seller ads for the so this
shows up in your Facebook feed and you click on
it and takes you to this.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Eighteen seventy one seated Liberty silver House dollars.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Definitely a genuine coin in the picture. Yeah, and then
this is what you get in the mail. Who a
very terrible tea.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
It's it's in a slab too. Yeah, it's in a
piece of jet slab right there. That is one percent
illegal on multiple different levels. Oh god. Yeah. But Facebook
doesn't care. No, they don't care. And that's the look.
I got no problem saying it.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
They don't care. They just if you're paying their advertising,
they'll let it go. They don't have anybody that's a
coin expert there that knows this coin is fake or not.
They and they probably don't care to have one. So
that's why this problem exists.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
I I, it stinks, but it just is what it is. Yeah.
And so if you if you go and you look
up to certain numbers and you look at the true
views of these coins, they don't look anything like what's
in the what's in these slabs. Yeah, they didn't even try.
I mean, they're really bad. And then they're horrible. Let's see.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Then here's another one that says, here's the recent eBay
listening that prompted him to write this article. Scales always
added an image of authenticity. So here's a seventy two
cc half dollars sitting on a scale showing the weight
and poof, looks like a very similar coin, says. It
looks like there's a group of these that are being made.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
They all use a common reverse.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
They common reverse, and it looks like the only thing
they do is change out the obverse die.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
It has a bad nose and uh oh, it's it's
just awful scary stuff, you guys. Scary stuff. Oh, that's
why we have Jack that blessom he is doing. He
is doing the Lord's work on this, I'll tell you.
And finally in the news. So this is unique Canadian
(19:05):
quarter set that was overstruck by by a nineteen seventy
eight Canadian set. So if you think Shenanigan's is monopolized
by the United States, guess again, because it happens every place. Now,
these the only there's two ways that this can happen,
So you tell me which one it is. Because I
(19:25):
think that these were sent dies that were loaded into
a quarter size collar.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
No, maybe it's hard to say because they're they're not
in they're broad struck. Well, but so what it was
there's a quarter, it was struck already. These were already
struck quarters. So they're over over the top of a quarter.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Somebody just took a quarter and loaded it into a
scent press without a collar, and would.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Do that without without making a really huge broad strike
on it. Well, I mean, it would expand the quarter
little bit, but since the quarter is already larger than
the scent itself, I guess it's already struck. So a
lot of the metals compacted already. Also. Yeah, so yeah,
that's why I asked you that they took struck quarters
they put them into a cent press.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Well, and that's just that you're exactly right. This is
just somebody at the mint just you know.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yeah, there's no other way that it can. And then
on top of it, to find them all in one place, well,
right exactly. That's you know, that tells you that there's
just no question about it. There is.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Well, Mike Myers is the guy who's been doing this
stuff for a long time. If anybody was going to
have some goofy stuff like this, it would definitely be him.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
I mean, they're cool, but they are very cool. It
just just struck out a seventy three commendment quarter and
that's the thing.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Like, there was a lot of this going on at
the US Mint as well during that kind of that
same time period. I wonder if there's any kind of
relation to the person that maybe was doing both of
these things, because they did happen in very more times,
you know, in the US men as well, they were
doing all sorts of crazy stuff like this, you know,
behind closed doors are at night of the basement.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Yeah, I like to say the moonlight min No, that's
that's legitimate. We like Daniel and that's the news, and
the news tight was brought to us by squirrels distracting
dogs and gathering acorns all in a day's work. People
like to comment on our bushy tails, but we're most
proud of our nuts squirrels. That's a good one. I
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like that one a lot.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
You're listening to the coin Show podcast with Matt Dinger
and Mike Notleman.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
So we are just getting back from an absolutely epic
a na it was a banger. I mean I only
spent one day this show. Like I like the last
couple and you know it was just too much to do.
Oh yeah, I mean I cover it in one day.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
You just can't like the room itself, Like you could
not see the wall, Like you looked across the room,
you couldn't see the other side, Like there were too
many people in the way. It was so far away
that standing people blocked the view of the wall.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Like that's how big this room was. It's and empty
boots were almost non existent. And they had the you know,
the big display. They had the Tyrant collection, they had
the Ana display, you know with the eighteen oh four dollars.
I almost knocked the call, I almost knocked over. You know.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
The thing that makes me kind of sad, But I
do this for a reason is I really didn't get
away from the table very much to go look at
these things, mostly because when I do that, I end
up buying stuff I don't need. So it's kind of
a personal thing that I just don't leave the table
if I can help it.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
So well, I mean, I I get one day to play,
so I don't spend a lot of time behind the table.
You spend a lot of time, you know what, buzzing
around talking to people. I spend some time at your table. Yep,
I spent some time at the Harlem Burke table. But
I mean sales were just really strong and there was
(23:19):
stuff every place. And what did I buy? I bought
uh five four innovation dollars and a book.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Oh well that's okay, Hey, I'm not you know, I
would expect nothing more from you. Actually, knowing you for
as long as I've known you that if you told
me that that's all you bought it a coinch, I'd
be like, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Well okay, so here tell me what the book is
is on ooh, you know, I have an interest in this.
I have an interest in this, and it has expanded
because of you.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Oh well, there you go. Then it's probably Canadian coinage.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Eating provincial coinage. I bought book on the provincial stuff.
There you go. Yeah, I love it. And Whitman was there.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
They didn't have their big setup like they normally do,
which is okay. I mean they've got a lot going
on right now with their CDN Whitman merger and and
all that. Yeah, they were there. They were there doing
their thing.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Obviously all the grading companies were there, PCGS and gc
c ACG, you know, all the paper mitegraders were there
as well. I did get to sit down with Ron
Javinski from c AC grading. If you haven't seen that video,
it's actually it should be everywhere if you haven't seen
the out was good. We got to talk about some
things that they're getting into here lately. And I keep
(24:36):
digging trying to get that scoop out of him, but
he's too smart for me. He won't give them to me.
So I'm gonna keep trying.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
You know, the show itself, we got in Monday. The
A and A is a week long festival of nerds,
like coin nerds, it is what it is. And we
got in Monday if we did a little bit of
hotel sales in our room, and then Tuesday we were
able to get in and move into the show. So
we were there on the floor from Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday, Friday,
(25:06):
and Saturday at a Quinn show.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Yes, and you were there later most Uh.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Yeah, we stayed. Like Saturdays are tough because you know,
we've been there all week. We're ready to go home,
but we don't have to catch a flight, so it's
like I can stay a little longer if I feel
like it, you know, if I feel like the show
is worth being there for if there's lots of people
running around, you.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Know, I'll stay.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
And so we ended up leaving probably about two o'clock
I think, and got home. But I mean, the show
is just killer, and I'm so glad that I did
leave on Saturday because I got to meet some really
cool people that you're going to see here in just
a little bit. So absolutely, it was a it was
a great show for us. We sold a ton of stuff.
We came back with, Like I think we took.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Ten double row boxes of slabs and twenty double row
boxes of raw, and I came back with a box
and a half of slabs and no raw. So yeah,
we did just an inordinate amount of business at both
the Ancient World table and at the US table. It's
like it was just we sold almost everything. Russ. It's
(26:12):
like when you come Friday, brings some stuff because we're empty,
you know, Like like I try to do that.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
I try to go to these shows and wholesale stuff
because I don't want my inventory in the office to
get stale. Like three or four months of being in
my office and not selling across the counter.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah, it's time to go. So that's why we do that,
and that's that's what we were dealing with there. And
speaking of what we do is if you like what
Matt and I do, please hit the like button. I
like that. That's good. Yeah, that was very good. That
was professional. So I got to bust around the show
and see some people and guests who I ran into,
(26:55):
the honorable Venus Gibson in director nice doctor, and ms
Gibson has has agreed to come back on our show.
We get to talk to the man director again. We
will talk to her again. So for all you guys
that thought that I ambushed her, that I went after her,
I will tell you that she did not agree with
(27:16):
you and uh and it actually told me that I
did what I was supposed to do. Ask questions. Yeah,
that's true. Well and she had a great answer too,
so I will give her credit with that. So here's
a little here's a little preview, because you know, her
and I were talking about, you know, the the what
I went after about, right, it was about the mint website.
(27:39):
And after we were done talking about your reaction to
all of this and what it meant, she looked at me,
she waked at me, and she goes, but I fixed it,
didn't I you did? I like it. So yeah, and
that's that's really good.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
And we also have maybe some news coming out of
the November Baltimore show, potentially a few things out there.
But it is entirely possible that your boy and your
boy this way, this way over here may be very
well attending the Baltimore Show and running around and making videos.
So we'll see, we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
So those are who only are around for East Coast silliness, yep,
silliness and crabcakes. I can't wait. I've never been to Baltimore.
Oh well, you just don't, don't wander too far. You'll
be fine. I'm stick with you, Bud.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
It's fun. It's a good place. And we'll go to
LP Steamers one night. If you've never been to Baltimore
or the coin show there, LP Steamers great place. So yeah,
I mean, we've got a lot of stuff coming on. Uh.
The other cool thing about the Baltimore thing is I.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Think there might be like a little area that's like
secluded on the area that we can talk to people
and bring people into and not have to worry about things.
So yeah, and We're going to have you know, complete
camera access for everything. So that's the cool part.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Yeah, that was the That was a very interesting part
of when I when I did it before, it was like, oh,
I've never really been able to just holl I can
go do whatever I want. Like normally it's I have
to be real careful when I'm filming things because I
don't want people to get mad at me. But when
they tell me to go film things, it's okay.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
And to be honest with it, it's like they haven't
gotten mad yet either.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Well no, no, I get you know, it's just just
what it is. Like the A, the A and H Show,
they really don't like you running around with cameras. I've
talked to them about it. You know, you have I
have a certain set of rules we have to kind
of stay in to be able to shoot videos there.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
And well, I mean we don't want business deals and
things like that being captured on for.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
People that don't want to be in the video in
the background, like I get it.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
I mean it's fine, I understand. But for the people
who do want to be in it, it's great. We'll
do it. So that's coming up.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
I guess, like I said, finished hash hashing out those
details and the other cool thing about Baltimore. I guess
what's really close to Baltimore, DC?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Washington, d C. Yes, in Washington, d C. Uh, it's
the only Income Memorial, the National Numismatic Collection of the Smithsonia. Yes,
it's the Smithsonian. But are we gonna have time to
go to Washington? Well, part of our deal might be
getting a private tour of the National Numismatic Collection. Won,
(30:20):
and so I don't know, we'll see, Okay, I know
about that part. Working on things, okay, buddy. So anyways, we.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Can do with that and let you know more as
that gets closer and as I get those details hammered
out so.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Hore to coom watches space. We will be bringing you
more details as they become available. I'll send them on
the Baltimore because we will definitely be there, you know,
good learn willing, we'll be there, and uh, we're gonna
have a good time, Yes we are.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Yeah, all right, buddy, Well, we have a game that
you wanted to play. And I don't even know why
I'm reminding.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
You of this. I normally would I hope you would
forget about a game and move on But well, it's
because you've already kind of gotten a preview of a game,
so you know, it's it's a lot of fun. Well,
it's always been a lot of fun to kind of
surprise Matt with a game because he was a dealer
and I was a collector, and it was just kind
(31:19):
of good for my ego to you know, Gota enjoyed
making me look dumb without telling me he was going
to make me look dumb. But I didn't make you
look dumb. You tried, I did, I didn't. I did.
I gave him my best shot. So you have a
(31:39):
new game. And I think that this is something that
that the group in chat is really going to like.
I think that going forward, we're going to play this
probably more than a couple of times. So the idea
is this, if you know there's a there's a game.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Called I can't say that one on the show.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Yeah, no, it's it's blank Mary Kill right, Yeah, where
you have to you have to pick one to you know,
be romantic with one to one to marry and you
have to kill somebody. Well, we're gonna do that with coins,
and it's going to be it's going to be collect
collect spend, spend or destroy, and you're gonna be given
(32:21):
three coins. You have to you have to collect one,
spend one, and destroy one. All right, give me one.
Let's let's find for an example, two and a half
five and ten dollars idiot. Okay, so I'm collecting ten Indians,
I'm gonna spend the five Indians, and I'm going to
(32:43):
destroy the two and a half Indians. Fair enough, getting
rid of the little guys. Yeah, yeah, I think that's
just the way is. I like tens.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
That's like my favorite coin of US current US money
ever in the history of manon dinosaurs and then five
and two and a half have the same design, so
it's it's kind of easier to just smoke one of those.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
So I want everybody in the chat to play along
with us and enter your answer says to what you
would do or if you have a threesome you know
that you'd like to offer.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
I've got one, Okay, let's hear it. Modern coins, vintage
coins or paper money.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
That's easy. Oh yeah, yeah, it's easy for you, it is.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
Let's see what the let's see the chat has to say.
You guys, pick modern coins, vintage coins or paper money.
You can collect one, you can spend one, and you
can destroy one.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
But you have to destroy one. Yeah, that's okay, you
can only collect one, right then the other one's got
to be coin of the realm. And he god deemon
collected to spend moderns, destroy paper, and he says, too easy.
What's your here is, Mike, I would actually be the
collect vintage, spend paper, destroy moderns. What there's too many
(34:10):
of them?
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Okay, I like it, Jackson's see.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
And the funny thing is this gives us.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Kind of an idea of what are people that are
watching the show are into. Yes, this is like market research.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Kind of animal. Collect vintage, spend currency, destroy modern There
you go. See that was the same with me. So
all right, well see here's another one for you, okay.
Eighteen oh four dollars nineteen thirteen v nickel eighteen ninety
four US time.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Well, I'm gonna say I'm going to collect nineteen thirteen
nickels because those to me seem to be the most
rare of the three. I mean, the eighteen oh four
dollars are a bunch of different kinds of eighteen oh
four dollars and have the certain finishes to them and
they were done and said, so, you know, I think
I would. I'd spend the eighteen oh four dollar and
then ninety four half times. You just spend them on
(35:03):
ice cream. That's that's what I would do. So you
would destroy the thirteen v nickel. No, I would collect
the thirteen venickels. Okay, I would spend the eighteen oh
four and you were the eighteen ninety four dimes. No,
you're right, I'm sorry backwards, I would I would. I
would spend the ninety four dimes and I would destroy
(35:26):
the eighteen oh four dollars my fault.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Okay, okay, that's fair. There's only seven of them that
you're that you're doing that too. I mean I would
take it. I think from a different uh way. I
would definitely destroy the nineteen thirteen venickels. They have absolutely
no problem with that one. It's a venickel and I
hate them. I just hate vehicles. There's there's nothing appealing
about that series to me at all. And so that's easy.
(35:49):
It's like I would collect the eighteen oh four dollars
because there are different ones to collect, and the eighteen
ninety four US dime there's twenty four of them. You
can spend those, yeah, already sort of common you somebody
already did on ice cream. Let's see. So, uh, that
was that was justin Irvin's idea. So this one is
(36:10):
from uh, from the millennial numismatist oh Russell thirty three
double Eagle seventy s halftime Brasher to Blue. Ooh, I
mean this is evil.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
So like the government, I'm going to destroy the thirty
three double Eagles, I'm going to collect the Brasher to blues.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
And I'm going to spend the other one whichever it
was seventy s halftime, seventy years half time. Yeah, that's fine,
I'll spend that gay. See, I personally would have to
go with I'm with you. I'm destroying the twenty thirty
three double Eagles. Yeah, that's that's easy. They shouldn't have
been anyway. That's that's fine. I'm no problem. The world
(37:02):
can live without them. But you know it's it's which
one do you want, so Diaz or the Brasher to
blooe And it's like, that's that's that's the hard one.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
I think the Brasher to Blue is a much more
autistically pleasing coin, and it is much more historic in
my opinion.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Adam jam says, burn the brasher, spend the time, collect
the eagle. Okay, see that's we're good market research here. Yeah.
Like let's see, uh, this one was me and Justin
who came together on this one. The glass scent. Oh okay,
an aluminum scent or in eighteen thirty s seated eighteen
(37:45):
thirty eight seated quarter.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
That is a wicked, wild roller coaster of emotions there. Yes,
I'm going to the glass scent. I'm going to drop
it and break it because I just would. I'm going
to spend the other modern sent and I'm gonna collect
the old coin because that's how I roll.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
You're gonna spend the aluminum cent yep. See, I will
destroy the illuminum scent. And it's like these groupings are
wrong for me because it's like there's a coin in
there in each of these that wasn't supposed to be
and so for me, it's like, okay, poof gone.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
Well, let's see if I can come up with one
that is going to be a hard decision for you.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Well okay, And in the meantime, I've got another one
for you. This one is my own personal evil. Okay,
because I can't figure out which one. I'm gonna go
with this one. Nineteen ninety nine w saka Juwia Dollar.
It's been up on the Space Shuttle. The gold ones, Yeah, yeah, okay,
(38:50):
eighteen forty nine twenty dollars gold, forty four S steel.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
Sent hmm, well, I'm gonna collect the forty nine gold.
I'm going to spend those sacageyas because they're modern, and
I'm going to destroy the other.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
You to destroy the forty four US steel sent. Yeah,
it's unique matter. There's only one matter. It's gone forever,
thrown into the event. Okay, melted, shredded, whatever, Bye, what
you know? What's yours on this one? You said this
was your personal hand, this personal well, I just wanted
(39:30):
to throw And if you guys want to give me
new ones going forward, then it's like send them to me,
mikeycoinshow Radio dot Com. I'll take all your suggestions and
will address them at some point in the future because
I think this is a fun game. All says this
game is going to give a night marriage. Well, it
was at a dream crusher me. Personally, I think I
(39:51):
would have to I would have to destroy the ninety
nine w secretarys. Again with the logic of they weren't
supposed to be there was no authorization for them. Yeah,
I mean, well there was or no, they weren't ninety
nine ws. There were two thousand ws ws.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
They were made with the same authorized but they were
ninety nine so they're technically illegal anyway, their patterns.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
They sent them up on they sent them up on
the Space Shuttle.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
And now they reside in the Smithsonian.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Uh yeah, and Fort Knox, I thought. But yeah, so
it's like they're made on half eagle or half ounce
blanks half ounce equal blanks. So I would have to
destroy that. I would collect the eighteen forty nine twenty
dollars and I would spend the forty four ascent too.
Very cool. It's really hard because you know it's it's
(40:52):
just a steel sent Yeah, and at the end of
the day, it has very limited appeal with that forty
nine to twenty dollars gold that's the fair first.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Yeah, I mean I guess you're probably right there. Uh.
Indigon Demon throws up nineteen oh one s Quarter nineteen
sixteen standing Liberty Quarter sixteen d mark Okay, hmmm.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
I had to collect well like coins. It would be
the nineteen sixteen standing Liberty Quarter simply for the esthetic
purposes of that particular coin, I just like it. I
would spend the nineteen sixteen D nine because that's what
happened to most of them anyways, and I would destroy
the O one S quarter.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Wow, which is what happened to most of them anyway. Correct.
You know, history repeat itself. So I would have to
say that I really have a hard time disagreeing with
you on it, but I think, just from a rariny standpoint,
I would still go with the O one S quarter
and I would spend the sixteen and then I'd destroy
(41:58):
the marks. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
Yeah, Well, I mean it's a flip flop. You can
flip flop those and I can see it either way.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
And finally, our last one for tonight, okay, Silver Center
Scent seventeen ninety five to ten dollars gold nineteen oh seven,
extremely high relief proof twenty.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
So I'm going to collect the seventeen ninety five simply
because that coin is a circulation strike. There are no
specimens aproofs of that particular coin, so all those coins
had to go into circulation at some point it's twenty yep.
I would destroy the Silver Center Scent because who cares
about that? And then I would spend those Ultrahi release
(42:45):
and have people look at me funny.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
So there you go. It's hard to argue that logic. Yeah,
I know, I have sound logic as my children. I mean,
I would probably burn the seventeen ninety five. Why it's
a circulation strike coin.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
So the only the reason I would collect it would
be the reason you would destroy it.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
Yeah, because this Silver Center Scent is such a historic
coin as far as being one of the very first. Yeah.
But the thing that those is like, that's the great
thing about this game. Yeah, that's true. But we both
agree that the nineteen oh seven Double Eagles have got
to go. I mean, I think they're gorgeous coins. I
love them, but Ultra high relief they're great. There's you know,
(43:29):
I mean a handful of them. That's it. But you're
out of here. You're out of here. That's it.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
Well, last, but not least tonight, friend, we have one
more thing to get to.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Yes we do. Are you ready? Yeah? And as a
matter of fact, uh, I'm even gonna let you go first.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
Oh well, that means I gotta get over to mash Butt. Okay, guys,
it's time for the coolest thing where Matt beats up
on Mike and Mike cries about it later.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
So here we go this.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
I bought this at the ANA, so it walked up
to my table at the ANA. This is a nineteen
oh two national bank note from the First National Bank
of Cripple Creek, Colorado. This is an exceedingly rare note
from the base of Pike's Peak in an area that
(44:24):
was a massive, massive gold mining area, so much so
that they actually had to mint tokens out of gold
for commerce in the area. So stupid rare note. There
are exactly five of these known to exist in the
whole world.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
This is one of them. Was this note unissued because
signed it?
Speaker 4 (44:43):
It's hard to say. Sometimes these signatures get washed out.
Sometimes they I don't see any trace of them, But
that doesn't mean anything, right, It's very possible that it
has just been washed a couple of times. But with
these notes, sometimes a note like this could be the
best one to exist because all the others are turns.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
Yeah, well absolutely, it's like as rare as this is,
it may very well be that case.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
Yeah, and Colorado Nationals in general are stupid rare, I
mean like exceedingly exceedingly rare.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
In general, so very cool note.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
Now the other note that this note was sitting next
to another note that was also brought up to my table,
which was from Tombstone, Arizona, which I almost bought as well,
but these are these are five figure notes, so I
didn't want to.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
Well, this one also has a song. This one also
has a song for it by the band. Oh yeah, I'm.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
Sure there's lots of lots of history that if you
get a chance, read up on Cripple Creek, Colorado, very
very fascinating history. I thought it was cool. That was
my coolest thing.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
But I have another coldest thing. You do have another
coolest thing. But before you get to that coolest thing,
I just want to make one more comment about this
coolest thing. Very cool, but modern ish. It's a nineteen
thirteen note.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
Well it's a series in ninety ohe two. But yes,
I get what you're saying. That was probably still a
pretty wild place in nineteen thirteen.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
So Denver Mint was open yep. And then the other
coolest thing happened at the end of the day. I
was sitting at my desk.
Speaker 4 (46:14):
At my table at the show, working on something on
the computer, and I hear the guys yell at me
and I said hold on. I was second, hey, hold on,
and I'm like, all right, I'll be there in a second,
and the yelped me again.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
I turned around and this is what I see, because
probably fifteen minutes later.
Speaker 4 (46:28):
Yep, I see these two fine folks walk up open
their shirts and they were the coolest thing to walk
into the show.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
My mind was blown.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
It was absolutely the most amazing thing I saw at
the show.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
So much fun. These guys were great.
Speaker 4 (46:45):
Yeah, that's another coolest thing. Sorry, I had to. I
had to ring too, But to be.
Speaker 3 (46:48):
Honest with you, it's like you could have just done
that and he could have both retired and walked away.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
Yeah, because that was obviously the coolest thing period. But
like I said, this was on Saturday when a lot
of people were leaving. These guys came in on Saturday
because the young guy had school and sometimes folks just
can't get in with the young kids, you know, during
the week. So that's why we stayed on Saturday. And
I'm so glad I did, because these guys were awesome.
They came all the way to the show to see
(47:14):
us and have a good time at a coin show.
And they sure did because I ran into a couple
of times out on the floor. So I'll tell you
what I love that. I really really loved that. It
was fun, it was it was a great, great thing,
and I was really really happy. It made my whole show.
I even posted it on socials. It made my whole show.
So let me get back over to yours now.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Yah, since you mailed it in, I'm going to give
everybody something that they really wanted. Okay, I really got
to stop bashing on his on his coolest thing. I'm
just trying to make a point tonight because I can
get my blood kicked. So this coin is not the
coolest thing that walked into the shop, but the coolest
(47:56):
thing that walked into my my personal collection. Oh so
this coin comes from and I'd like you to go
to the third picture that one. This one comes from
a very very famous numismatist. B. Max Mel was a
numismatist in Fort Worth in the late eighteen hundreds and
(48:17):
early nineteen hundreds, and this was from an auction of
his and it was a lot number sixty nine. It
is a five francs from you know, France, of course,
and this one sold for a dollar sixty. But this
one is an eighteen eleven five francs that has Napoleon
(48:39):
on it. Yep. So this is now you can go back, okay.
So this is this is Napoleon the First, the Emperor
of France in all his glory. This coin is about
size of a silver dollar. It is coinsilver, and it
is the French Empire of eighteen eleven to So I
think his second time around. That's cool. I mean I
(49:02):
love those coins. Yeah. I just like this the history
of it. It's not only it's not only who could
have touched it in France, but it's who touched it
here and there's proof of it.
Speaker 4 (49:14):
I wonder if you can go back and find which
auction it was lot number sixty nine, and I bet
you could.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
I can't. If I go back and I look at
I just do a quick search and Newman Numismatic portal
and use the use the keywords of you know, sixty
nine and then Napoleon eighteen eleven five franc I'm sure
it would come up with a single result. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (49:36):
Probably probably you can probably figure out exactly the day
that coin was sold.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
Yep, that's cool. Yeah, and it stayed in that collection
for an awfully long time because I noticed this bag
was sitting under somebody's bed for about fifty years. And
so this is a memento of that absolutely huge deal
that I bought that had all the coins from b
Max mel and from Chapman. There you go. So I
(50:02):
wanted something for my collection, my personal collection that came
from the biggest coin deal I've ever dealt with.
Speaker 4 (50:08):
And Eric says, so I'm not the only one who
buys coin is because the flip or the envelope attend.
Speaker 3 (50:12):
Yeah, I want her to do that. Yeah, it's a thing.
It's a real nerdy thing to do, but it's great.
Speaker 4 (50:19):
It's it's how you know you've entered coin the pinnacle
of coin nerdom when you start doing stuff like that
or like my coolest thing last show was the Tone Gold,
Like that's coin nerdom at its finest. Yes, so yeah,
you are one of us. You are one of us,
and you are welcome.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
Yes, hug. So, uh, these will be the choices that
you have on the poll this week that berry will
launch on our Friends of the Coin Show page on Facebook,
and I urge you to go in and vote for
me and and give me a victory. I need a
w There is a lot of stuff happening with the
(50:59):
show right now. Things are bobbing and weaving, yeah and uh,
and we're taking you guys for the ride. So you know,
we appreciate all your support. We appreciate everybody that comes
to watch and listen and who gives us their ideas.
We'd like to thank Justin for being behind the glass
today and taking care of everything that we do. And uh,
(51:22):
you know, thank you, Matt, Thank you to everybody listened,
Cuz without you, this whole endeavor is pointless. And uh,
we will talk to you next time on episode two
thirty nine of the Coin Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
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