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December 1, 2024 48 mins
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Join Mike and Matt for another awesome episode of The Coin Show Podcast, where they delve into the fascinating world of coins and currency. In this exciting installment, they cover a variety of engaging topics:
 
News in Numismatics: Stay up to date with the latest happenings in the coin collecting universe. Mike and Matt explore recent developments, news you should know, and noteworthy trends.

Your Coolest Thing: The guys talk about the cool things submitted by the listeners. 

Baltimore Whitman Expo Recap: Mike and Matt talk about their recent trip to the Whitman Expo in Baltimore.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the coin Show podcast, the show about coins
and coin collecting, and not just any show. This is
the number one coin collecting podcast going ten years strong.
Here's Matt Dinger and Mike Notleman on the coin Show Podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
It is episode two forty one of the coin Show podcast.
I'm Mike and I'm Matt. And on this episode of
the coin Show podcast, we have some discussion of what
that heck we've been doing for the last couple of weeks,
and and some really cool things for you guys to
check out. Yeah, all's a lot of content. Yes, we

(00:44):
have your coolest thing, which is it evolving into what
we what we planned yet? Ere we school? Kind of?

Speaker 3 (00:52):
We'll see, We'll see where the show takes us.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
We'll see.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
We'll just be flexible.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
How's that. I'm I am nothing if not flexible. I'm
not as flexible as I used to be. What first?
As always? That's favorite part?

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yes, yes, yes, all right, I want to hear it.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
And the news is brought to us by squirrels, distracting dogs,
gathering acorns is all in a day's work. People like
to comment on our bushytails, but we're most proud of
our nuts. Squirrels.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
I like that, but that was a good one.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Have some really really interesting news. So I wanted to
start with something that is kind of a sign of
the times and is more uh I think what you
can expect more of in the future. Yeah, I saw
this story. Let's see, it's the World's Money Fair. It's
going to be in Berlin next year. They are going
to experiment with a new mission system that is going

(02:02):
to be done mostly by QR code. Okay, but you're
going to have an opportunity through the QR code is
going to be personalized for you, so it'll have what
all your access is and what other things like that.
It also will have your identity in it and who
you are, so that they can kind of keep track
of that as well as that people, you know. I mean,

(02:25):
that's kind of what it helps to do. And yeah,
so they're going to use these codes. Oh and you
can you can print a copy of your badge from
this QR code. Oh okay, that's free, right, It's all
part of the admission system. Ah.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
I see seventeen bucks or seventeen euros looks like.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, but it's like that's just a ticket to the fair, right,
So you know, if you if you wait to buy
your ticket onside is twenty two euro Oh okay, it's
going to give you control the access areas and uh
security staff is going to be you know, they're gonna
be a little bit more just enabled.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Can't be too safe these days, especially with all the
crazy stuff going.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
On the world. Like I said, side of the Times, yep, yep.
So speaking of shows, we recently attended one and in
this in this show, we saw the mid debuting the
flowing here gold coin that's correct, which may or may
not have made people unhappy. Yeah, it was people who

(03:40):
have opinions. Well, look, it all depends on what side
of the what side of the apple you're on. Right,
if you're one of the people that went through the
process of trying to get on the website, getting all
your ducks in the row, getting halfway through the order process,
only to have something happen and then you not get it, yeah,

(04:00):
I'd be kind of I'd be kind of frustrated with
the fact that you know, not only were there were
there some that were not sold then okay, but we're
sold in bulk to dealers yep, you know, like we sold.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Ninety four so almost two thousand pieces went straight to
dealers right though, with no access to the public on
those coins, So.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
It was what ten thousand sales.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Let's see, it looks like as of November nineteenth, combined
sales reached nine, nine d and thirty five units, So
I'm talking about the authorized sales. Well, probably something like that.
So it looks like they kept seventy five coins.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
For some reason. Well I think we know why they
kept those. Yeah, but anywhere around it, you know, it
was interesting to see a launch there. Yeah, and it
was it was kind of neat to be on the
other side of it for a change.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah, we got to sit and watch the whole thing happened.
It was pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
As well. The twenty twenty four reverse proof Morgan Peace
dollars have now launched. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
We had one of my employees brought Thursday and already
that they got.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
The shows they were just playing Show and tell really, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Mean two hundred and fifteen dollars a set.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Not exactly cheap, no, and and I wasn't enamored with them.
I mean they weren't like anything crazy.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Well, okay, so I don't know. My thing is I
don't think that after twenty twenty one Morgan dollars have
any context. No opt making them after the first year,
I'd have been like, Okay, that was cool, that was neat. Yeah,
And I would even be okay with you continuing to

(05:56):
drone on with the Peace dollars.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Sure, yeah, Peace do I can see because you know
that that would be you know they didn't make them
in nineteen twenty four, twenty eight, right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
So that makes sense. But for them to have produced
a reverse proof set, which is unusual to begin with,
and now producing one second year, yeah, it's like, what's different? What?
What am I?

Speaker 3 (06:19):
You know, one of my another series to get people
sucked into.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
I don't know what. It's another set of over price silver.
But I am also one to say that, you know,
our opinions aren't the only ones that matter. So I
am going to ask you, our listeners for your questions,
your opinions on this.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
We want to let them have an opinion.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
I got it. So we're going to have a survey
on our on our Facebook page, probably for ends of
the coin show. Are you glad that the United States
met made the twenty twenty four reverse proof Morgan and
peace dollars, and we'll just look at what people have
to say. So I give you several choices. Yes, I

(07:06):
ordered one for my long term collection. Yes, but I'm
going to buy mine on the secondary market. I'm on
the fence. No, I didn't buy one because they don't
have any context as a yearly issue. No. I wish
it would stop making these. I wish they would have
stopped making these last year. And for God's sake, please

(07:29):
stop creating this overpriced on watter garbage and try focusing
on making other more relevant designs.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Wow, where did spicy Mike come from? On the other end,
the first side was like, the first side was like, okay, yeah,
I can see this as a pole, and then all
of a sudden, you like lit on fire that last one.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Well, no, it's one of those things where I think
that there were going to be degrees of the people
that don't want this, and I just want to feel
the pulse of humanity, that's all.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
You just want people to rage with you. I think, Oh,
that's fine.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
You can put in your comments too in the comments
section of this of this video. Yeah there you gow
An eighteen fifty six Flying Eagle Scent has sold for
a record three hundred twelve thousand dollars. Good lord, I know.
So this is the highest graded example of plate coin

(08:26):
I think from the hundred Well it's at least in
one hundred Greatest US Coins book. But yeah, three hundred
and twelve thousand.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Proof sixty seven plus pcgs with the CAC stick with
a CAC that's a pretty hefty coin. But like, good lord,
that's a lot of money for one of those.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
It is. It's a lot of money. Now my question is,
so it's proof sixty seven. My assumption is that this
is one of the original proofs that they made as patterns,
not like the ones that they made later.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, maybe it says in the story here let me look,
let's see, I just gets into itherited.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Chill livereding the Patrington proof centerpressive. Yeah, no, it's really not.
It's not really.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Say struck close to one thousand examples, right, So no,
it doesn't really doesn't really say it kind of actually
lose that it's one of just the normal guys. So HHM,
all right.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
But also there was a nineteen fifteen Buffalo Nickel and
PREW sixty nine that going's pretty it's a bad proof.
It's beautiful. So that was also the finest certified and
that one for two hundred and forty thousand crew sixty nine. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
Hello.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
And then there was an eighteen seventy CC double Eagle.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Okay, that's a that's rare, going au details, Yeah, for
two hundred and sixteen thousand, so that makes sense. And
then there was like a Stella and a panpac Raum fifty.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah, cool rarestov hefty stuff. And if you go to
the next page you'll see the eighteen seventy CC it's
just a picture of it.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, that's a cool coin, you know. I forget how
many of them they made. It was not very many
coins at all.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Press time.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Forty eight of one hundred and seventy three double Oh no,
that's not it. Let's see today. Only a few dozen
coins from that issue eighty nine, okay, and they said
likely numbering between forty and fifty examples still exists.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, so they only made thirty eight hundred of them
to begin with, and forty or fifty of them still exists.
It's pretty cool, speaking of still existing, a rare seventeen
ninety five silver dollar worth over one hundred grand.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Oh, this is a silver plug.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
That's cool. Yeah, it was found in a Rhode Island estate.
The stuff that they're finding, it's.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Amazing, Like, you know what they're going to find in
my estate a bunch of junk, Like they're gonna be like, oh,
what is all this cool stuff? And it's nothing. It's
literally just garbage.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
So I'm gonna share a funny story with you, and
I'm going to change your names to protect the innocent.
But Okay, somebody that I worked with at one point,
they have a They have a son who is in
the business and knows a bit about it, but understands
what it's like to go through a parent's home. And

(11:38):
this person has done fairly well for themselves. They've accumulated
a lot of metal right of course, of the years.
Their mother, on the other hand, was kindergarten teacher and
ash and has accumulated a lot of macaroni plates and projects.
Is so what she is What he has always teased
is that is that when his father and mother die,

(12:02):
he's just going to burn the house down and have
an asset.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Hey, you can only Hey, you know what, macaroni art
is good as an emergency ration.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Okay, sure, there you go speed really discovered a New
England three pence brought two point five to two million dollars.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
We talked to John Karlovich about this coin because there
was there was just one of these, amazing just two. Yeah,
this one. He said it fell out of a piece
of furniture. Like, why did people have this luck? The
people that find one hundred thousand dollars coin in a
a state and have a two and a half million

(12:44):
dollar coin fall out of a piece of furniture.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
What luck?

Speaker 3 (12:48):
What luck people have?

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Karlovich was the guy who actually cataloged the piece. So yeah, yeah, yeah,
it was discovered in an old cabinet in Amsterdam about
a years ago. So it wasn't even here anymore.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yeah, was gone, it was. It was in Europe. I mean,
imagine the story of that going could tell.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Wow, speaking of Europe, one of the things that I
like about the Royal Mint is some of the stuff
that they do this time of year. And my buddy
Nick back here, you know, he probably agrees me this day. Yeah, Nick,
So the Gibraltar fifty pence and two pound coins are out.

(13:32):
I just like the fact that they put out Christmas designs.
You go to England. You'll find a find a Snowman
fifty p coin every year. I'm okay, I mean that's
kind of cool. Sure, that's if that's what you like
under money, go for it. Just enjoy the holiday. Hey, Christmas,

(13:53):
it's the worst whatever. Wo humbug? Okaycriage. Now here's something
that was actually teased in our interview with an in director.
That's right. So here it is is considering non round
twenty twenty six Liberty Bell gold coins and silver medals.

(14:15):
So the fact that it's gold coins of the silver
medal tells us that.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
It is from the brain of the mint director.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
That's right. This is her baby, and they are they
are considering making you know, it's a gold Oh god,
what is this? Two hundred and fifty.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Dollars two hundred and fifty one and twenty five Yeah,
for a.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Half ounce one twenty five, for a full ounce two
fifty and then a one ounce silver bell.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
I mean, it's very interesting. It is definitely something new
for the US mint, making something that's not round or
you know, like, so far, all the innovation we've got
has been a couple of dished coins. Okay, cool. Now
we're looking at something a little different.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
I'm okay with it, Okay, So I'm not so sure
I am. I mean, I'm not like, I'm not like
completely hating on it, but I would say that I
was expecting more something like maybe a square coin when
when she hinted it not round or said not round,

(15:22):
I just wonder what the long term, what the long
term technology they're showing us here is. It's just innovation.
It's just them doing something in a non regular shape. Yeah,
I think so, And if so, then what are you
going to do with it at that point? So I'm
not sure, but it's definitely innovation. It's definitely different. Yeah,

(15:45):
but I just don't know if that's like, I don't
know if I'm excited about it.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah. The chat says it looks like a cookie cutter. Yeah,
I get that. Yeah, I can see that. I can
see that. Well, you know, like I said, innovation, Okay,
okay with that, let's let's see.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
What you got. Speaking of innovation, so the Mint has
released the designs that have been recommended by the CCAC.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
One of them is going to be our design in
twenty twenty six, and for the first.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Time, they're going to have an eagle on the back
of the time. That's true.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Well I thinks no, I take that back, which time
had an eagle.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Half tam the dem Oh well that's the very first
one half drape bust. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
So it's okay, fine, first time we've had an ego
on it since like the eighteen thirties.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yeah, not at all. Give me, I'll give you that. Yeah,
there you go. I'll clean that up a bit for you.
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
So one of these two designs is going to be
our our dime design in twenty two. It's very interesting
that they don't seem to have any rim like at
all shown in the design.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Weird Are some.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Of these otters in ques or are they raised? I
would be interested to find that out as well.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Really hard to tell. I wouldn't bet on it.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
I think they're raised.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
I mean I would assume they're raised. But well, think
about how small a canvas you're working with, correct. Yeah.
And then later in the article they show you some
of the some of the less popular designs. I kind
of like Operas O five a kind of a Peter
Max design.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
Oh five A oh, yeah, that's cool. That's what we
should have gone with I like that one. Yeah, exactly,
that's just different.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
I like that one. And then they have the the reverses.
You know what they wanted to do one with with
a torch on it, which not necessary.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Yeah we've had We've had plenty of torches. No more
torches torched out, man, a.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Whole birds on the I'm burned out with porches. Okay, Well,
I mean, next story, we'll show you the designs for
the half dollars, a little bit of recommended. Now they
haven't shown the quarter yet. No, so this is this
is what it's going to look like. This is it.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
They're only showing us one. That means they've decided, right.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Uh, well that's the whole thing. This is what the
CCAC is recommended.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Okay, Well, I wonder how often they go against what
the CCAC recommends. I'm just glad they didn't do that
the Disney did Disney lookalike coins.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yes, I'm okay with statue Liberty on it, even though
we've had it on so many coins.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Now, what's iconic? It's an iconic American thing.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
But but I mean it's like a half dollar doesn't
circulate anyway, so what does it really matter?

Speaker 3 (18:52):
That's a good point. That's a good point. But you know,
I like those I like that design. I can't say
I hate it again with the no rim thing though,
that's weird. Maybe that's just these modern designs and they
just kind of figure it'll have a rim.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
I don't know. Typically, typically our teeth are our wrap
story will be something having to do with Jack Young
correct his dark side this week is an exception to that,
as I have a I have a better, better fluff
story for the end. So Jack did post really cool,

(19:27):
no fun story this week in coin Week where he
talks about, you know, buying a coin off all the
express and the you know, the the chase of looking
at it knowing it's fake, starting to look at the
real coin. Stuff like that, and what did he do, Well,
he reported it and they came back and they said, well,

(19:49):
are you there? Are you the owner of the real thing?
Do you have license on this design? You know what
I'm done?

Speaker 3 (19:59):
You know, But it's not. It's one of those things
where they just they don't care, like there is heck.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Given about what they do over there. It's very nicely
cleaned up. Yes, are exactly zero zero. So it's it's
an interesting story with Jack Bye Mali express.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
I mean the FA's not even close. The slabs are wrong.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
The coin doesn't look anything like the true view. No,
I mean the coin just is hot garbage, and it
gives you a nice shot of the actual you know,
the actual slab. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
So here's the part where he reports it. I like
that part. He says, this is a counterfeit coin and
a counterfeit holder. It is against the law to sell
in a violation of trademark class for PC. Yes, the
images are of a genuine coin and certain number uh
and the comparison of this violation to the genuine one. Okay,
and they say it says, thank you for your feedback.

(21:01):
Please provide more proofs that the reported product is suspected
of infringing on the intellectual property rights as appraisal reports
right told her statements, et cetera. If you have any
comments or suggestions about the unsubstantiated report, you can appeal
through online customer service or submitted to a certified out
of court dispute resolution provider. Wow, what a bunch of flood.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
So in closing, what he says is a Ali's reporting page,
and you know the option is for restricted or prohibited products,
but of course counterfeit is.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Not one of the options that get Yeah, it's not
restricted or prohibited where they're produced.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
So nuts, nuts, and finally in the news. So this
is what we've been doing. And it was kind of
nice to see somebody else cover our podcast for a change. Wow,
it was crushing. So we did an interview with John
Feigenbaum is the president of a coin Dealer newsletter and Whitman,

(22:03):
and apparently he liked the interview because he posted it
on the Whipman page and on the Gray Sheet news page.
It is a really good interview. John was just a
treat to have on. Yeah, and I thought probably one
of the more interesting guests we've had, Oh for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
I loves to talk, trust me, he's a talker, are
we right, Oh, we worked well with talkers.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
So yeah, it was great. We had a good time.
And yeah, I'm glad that they they put that out.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yes, yes, so that's the news. This was brought to
us tonight by squirrels. Distracting, distracting dogs and gathering acorns
is all in a day's work. People like to comment
on our bushy tails, but we're most proud of our
nuts squirrels. Oh boy, so.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
You want to talk about what we did?

Speaker 2 (22:59):
You want to get you too?

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Boy? Do I boy? Because look, first off, I've never
been to Baltimore. Second, and I think more importantly, the
coin a coin show has never come to us since
said hey, how'd you like to come? We have been
We've done our show from shows before correct ever had

(23:21):
the privilege of doing it, you know, this way, and
it was great.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Never been given carte blanche to run around and do
whatever the heck we like, including flying drones in the consumption.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
And we did. You know, it's there is. So what
you need to do if you haven't yet, is you
need to go to our YouTube channel and you need
to look because there is an interview with the Mint
director yep. There's an interview with John Feigenbaum yep. There's
an interview with Greg Rohan, who is the head of

(23:54):
Heritage Auctions, President of Heritage. There is an interview with
let's see with John Karlovich ye who is like American Encyclopedia.
There's an interview with Jeff Garrett yep. There is an
interview with my boss Aaron Burke YEP. And then we

(24:16):
did one with Lori Kraft who runs Lori Kraft, who
runs the Whitman Show in Baltimore. Could not thank her
enough for all the hospitality and the stuff, you know,
the great stuff they did. Those are great, all of them.
So Leanne I saw Matt and Baltimore, but got too
nervous to say hi.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Oh my goodness, don't ever be nervous all the time.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Just come up and say hi, say hi, we look.
We love meeting people.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
Yeah, it's one of my favorite things. So you're you'll
make me happy. I promise I won't. I won't be
angry even if you interrupt me in lunch, I won't
be angry. Okay, but yeah, I know that. And then uh,
you know, we literally they said they what they do
when they did this, because I did it once on

(25:05):
my own before they kind of figured out how we
wanted to do this, and they basically said, okay, here
you go, have fun and pat you on the back
and let you go. And and it was kind of
sort of up to you to come up with some
of this stuff. They've been bringing a couple of things
they wanted you to do. But then you know, the
rest of it was kind of like, Okay, well who
do I know? And hear that one that's interesting and

(25:25):
I want to talk to So we kind of just
walked around and got with people and sat down and
did interviews. And I hope they want to continue doing
that because I would love to keep making great content
for you guys, because some of those.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Interviews are awesome good. Thank God for me. You know,
I am a social butterfly and I like to I
like to meet people, so you know, it's like there
are a few people that I've always wanted to interview
that I've talked to before and I've said, hey, can
we getch out? Well it's like when you're put there
by the show and now it's like you have to

(25:58):
see the setup we had. Oh it was cool. It
was so great. And that's that's all complements of LORI,
you know, getting everything done for us, and you know,
we've learned things, right, one of the things that we
learned is that live streaming probably not gonna happy one shows.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
So yeah, that was that was rough. I would love
to have been able to stream all of those interviews
for you guys.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
That was the Every single would have been great.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
That was the plan going into it was to be
able to live stream all those interviews to you guys.
But man, the internet down there is rough. I throttled
not only my phone's hot spot, I throttled Whitman's hot spot,
which they had a separate old puck and then the
internet at the convention center, which I was one of
only like ten people that had access to the actual
like hefty internet.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Uh it did. It wasn't good enough. No, you've managed
so other people couldn't use that one either. Yeah, I did.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
Yeah, And coin making Sense puts out a very very
valid point. The first two interviews we did, the one
with Greg Rohan and John Feigenbaum, I had the wrong
audio input selected, so it was actually taken the audio
from my laptop and not the microphones.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Wah wah. That was Matt's screw up. It's been a
learning curve to some of this stuff. It's like that
to figure a lot of things out, and we have
and if you if you look at not only the
video quality of what we did, but particularly later audio
quality and stuff like that, I think that one, you know,

(27:33):
we got a lot of people that that that I
really wanted to I really wanted to hear.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
It's so easy there because everybody's in the in the room,
like you could anybody. It's anybody, you know, is that
one of these shows that that like is interesting and
news making and what you want to talk to, they're
probably there. Uh and and a lot of these people
are super nice people. All you to just walk up
to say, Hey, you know, we're gonna come come make
a video real quick and we'll just talk about you.
Most people love to talk about themselves.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Hey, can you come over with my booth and talk
about yourself for a little bit?

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Yeah, big, video'll be great.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
They do.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
And then and then after that we get home and
we relaxed for a week and then boom in Director Interview.
So again they were wonderful to work with as well.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
You know, if you have not seen the Director Interview yet,
first off, shame on you, but more importantly, go watch
it because I don't think anybody has ever been more
accommodating for us. She has just been like the coolest
person ever.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
We caught a little flak because we didn't ask her
why they auctioned the gold coins off.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Well, we caught a little flak the time before that though,
because they said I went after so it's like, you know,
you either don't ask a question or you ask a
question and they don't. Like It's like.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
We're out there getting the interviews and getting as much
as we can.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
So there you go. And I will tell you that
in this particular case, she literally screened the questions at
a time.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yeah. Now there's very few people do that. Actually, the
one that's ever done that for.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Us really don't let people do that. It's like, I'll
send them some of the questions and I actually told
them in director you know, this is some of them,
and she was cool with taking other ones. But yeah,
because like the interview went along on time with it,
I just wanted to be a three hour interview. Yea.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
Like the interviews we did the show, those were all
just off the cuff, you know, like, hey, let's sit
down and talk about something. That's the way those went.
So those were fun and and she was fun and
of course and the people all there were great to
work with. Again, I said them a little uh little
thank you gift, so hopefully they got that nice.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
All right, So here it is you guys, this is
your coolest thing. This is where we check out some
of the awesome stuff that you guys have gotten my
and you feel like sharing with us. I think, Mike,
we're just going to hit this old school style tonight,
because why not. Sure Doubwork Channels is up first with
his nineteen eighteen s two feather no neck buffalo nickel.

(30:15):
That is definitely a no nickel weird. That's probably something
that was made this kind of the same way that
the three leged buffalo nickel was made. Just they cleaned
up the die and got a little too aggressive on
their polishing and kind of sort of polished the feathers
in the.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Neck out well. In eighteen in San Francisco, they were
overusing dyes.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
They had an overday. So that is a good point. Yeah,
that is a good point. I saw this next one.
This next one's cool. Marcus Davis says a pricing device
for Buffalo, Nichols and Lincoln Sent's you choose the year
on the right in three different conditions and it will
tell you the price for all three minutes if applicable.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
So let's go through. I think he posted some more pictures.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Yeah here there, so it says nineteen thirty one there,
and look it's like it's kind of like one of
those things that you, you know, you put the date
over here, and then it tells you the different prices
for the conditions and the mint marks, which I think
is pretty neat. I wonder when this is from nineteen
fifty eight. It has a date on it, nineteen fifty
eight discalogue is what it's called. I'd love to see

(31:18):
one of those for Morgan dollars. I bet, I'm sure
they have them. I'm sure they have one nineteen oh
three oh eighteen ninety three US. Isn't that funny how
the different dates over the years have changed too, Like
O three oh's used to be insanely expensive and now
they're just kind of like a little sort of expensive.
Interesting Jobohannon's up next, He says, a really pretty thirty

(31:42):
nine proof nickel PCGS sixty seven CAC and I tend
to agree with you, mister Bohannon. That looks like a
very nice Jefferson nickel. It's got that pretty purple and
blue toning, a little bit of yellow or gold that
those coins, those nickels get. You can't argue with that coin.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Prove fluster to it.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Yeah. Uh, let me get back to the thing I
can read here. Jack Grabbers says, a truly scarce contemporary
counterfeit nineteen two C two being part of the family
of micro o counterfeit.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Morgans one of those lad on my desk right now.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Uh, this is one of the top three pieces in
my collection, same obverse as the other four counterfeits. Uh,
and the C four reverse for them all that year.
So yeah, there's a group of these coins that were
so good as counterfeits that they fooled a lot of
people for a very long time. And I think there

(32:42):
he says, there's four, so that makes sense. The other
the other three are the micro O reverse and that's
a really easy way to tell on those, but this
one looks like it's a little bit more difficult because
the O looks somewhat normal. But they all share some
common dye markers on the obverse out in the field,

(33:02):
and you can tell that they're fake. So somebody went
through a lot of trouble to make those a long
time ago. They fooled the grading companies for a long time.
It's not out of the question to find some of
those coins in holders in slabs with those van numbers
on them. I've owned three or four of those over
the years. I have a ninety six O microo on
my desk right now, which I think I might make

(33:25):
a video about next week. But yeah, I mean these
are really really cool. I'm really fond of these things.
So yeah, uh oh, Jack Young brings us. My coolest
thing is the only confirmed and certified US large chet
struck over a condored druid token. I actually discovered it

(33:45):
and had it confirmed by several condor experts as as
well as PCGS who updated the attribution. Very curious that
one of these would come up, would end up in
the coining press in seventeen ninety eight. Yeah, I mean,
but the druids were made, what seventeen ninety five, so
I can see that they would you know, cut one

(34:06):
down to fit in the you know, to fill the
stuff to you know, Yeah, I mean seventeen ninety eight,
a little later, you know, that's usually something you see,
like ninety five ninety six is kind of when they
were striking them on all sorts of weird things. But yeah,
I mean, that's that's pretty dark cool.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
And when you can figure out the host coin.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Yes, and it's really neat. You can see right here,
it's it's clear as day. You can see the s
here and then you can see the word the right
across the up the top there above America. And then
on the obverse you can kind of see some of
the under type through Liberty. And then the reverse you
can see it, you know, over here on above the
word of you can see some design elements, but the

(34:51):
lettering there below the Ica of America is what really
gives it away. So very very cool, Jack, thank you
for shown us that. And you know what's really rare
the fact that he actually brings a genuine coin to
this to this podcast.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
That's the rare part.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Kevin Kon says, New Orleans Planters Bank stamped reale eighteen eleven,
eighteen fifteen. This one was on a counterfeit reale and
the only other one known like it sold for ninety
two hundred dollars less than one hundred and fifty known.
I know nothing about this, but I think it's cool.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
So they struck this on a fake.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Well I think at the time they probably didn't know
that it was fake. You know, this was a counterstamp
that they were doing. It looks like the New Orleans
Planters Planters Bank was counterstamping these for circulation in that
part of the world, I'm guessing, you know, showing that
they have looked at it, and probably something similar to
a chop mark. You know, it says, hey, we've looked

(35:57):
at it. We think it's okay, here you go. But
this one is on a counterfeit. They must have missed
a counterfeit, so super cool. Yeah, I don't know nothing
about this. I've never even seen one. But you know,
that's why this show is awesome, and you guys are
awesome because we learned stuff all the time from you guys.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Now I know that exiustly. We run the show and
we learn just as much as anybody else does.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Right, So now, if I ever see one of these,
I will have an idea. I'll remember it. I'll have
it pop into my head and be like, oh yeah,
that's real quick.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
If you, uh, if you're here and you're enjoying the show,
please give us a like it's thirty five of you,
we got eight likes. I'd just kind of like to see,
say a couple more please, thanks guys.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
Uh fuzz says I was coming eBay for my local
safe searches and stumbled across this piece IM easily good
for token that I was hoping to snag for under
ten dollars. Turns out I was able to snag this
for quite a bit more, but I don't care. I
was able to succectually attribute this token to Stony Ridge, Ohio.
This small little hamlet is located a mile from my
grandpa's farm and three miles from where I grew up.

(37:06):
Oh the fuzz estate, uh.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
William had a Harrison territory apparently, yep.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
This token is special to me for this reason. Spent
many summer nights here getting ice cream with my family,
ironically right across the street from where this merchant was located.
That is why I absolutely love good four tokens. And
that is the really fun thing about good four tokens.
If you've never gotten into them, they're really cheap most
of the time. Sometimes they get a little expensive, but

(37:33):
they are from all over the country. You can literally
find it from anywhere small towns, you know, anywhere that
had a pool room back in this period, or a
or a merchant or arcade or yeah, yep, they probably
had tokens made for them. So you can find this stuff.
It is out there and.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
It'll becoming even more common now. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Yeah, they're very very cool. Ukurcules says, hey, friend gave
me this. A friend gave me his dad's collection a
couple of weeks to go to sell for him. It
was almost all the typical scrapsilver stuff and a small
bag of weeek since a sort of collection by but
the way, but wait, at the bottom of the pile,

(38:14):
I found this in an envelope. It was removed from
a bezel. Really commendate, but it was definitely an unexpected find.
And he shows us a nineteen twenty two double eagle,
one of the most iconic designs in US coinage. Absolutely beautiful.
Thank you so much, Kirk for showing us. Gomndree says,

(38:34):
good old punch mark coins. Yep, that is one of
the I have a bag of those around here somewhere. Actually,
I forget what they're called. They're medieval Indian coins, and
they would they would put their punches all over them.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
What the heck are those things called?

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Give me a second, let me Google, Let me get
the Google machine out, and I'll tell you what those
are called.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
It's your friend, so now Michael, let's do that. I
see it's trying to entertain people.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Jeez, I'm coming on there almost there.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Thank you to everybody for for sharing your stuff on
your here.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
They are the Morian Empire m A U r y
a n empire, that is who made those. I knew that,
I just couldn't remember the name.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
How old? How old are they?

Speaker 3 (39:33):
They're fairly old. Like I said, they're medievil, so they're longer,
maybe even older.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Let's see.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
Morian punch mark coins suggested as early.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
No, no, not that old.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
Any campaign Alexander the Great. Here we go three around
four hundred a d. It looks like yeah, all the
way from about three hundred. Marian Perry is three two
five pc. I am sorry. They are older than I
thought they were. There, you go so cool, older than

(40:18):
I thought. So those are actually.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Ancient coins, ancient silver coins. Yeah, from there from the
reign of Alexander the met.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
Uh Dennis Mendoza eighteen fifty nine. Oh is the rarest
New Orleans. No motto eagle from the P and W collection.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
That's pretty cool. I love oment gold. I love olement gold.
It's not all that common and it's so it's beautiful.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Steve says bought this coin a month ago on What
Not Show? Paid four to fifty got it raw? Uh,
paid four fifty raw, got it? Grady came back what
we thought? Actually BG eight was better than I thought,
so really happy to add it to my collection. Ooh,
there you go go. He shows us in nineteen eighteen
over seventy Buffalo nickel and pcgs VG eight.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
That's a nice looking coin. That's some more pictures here.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
One of my that's actually one of my favorite overdates
eighteen over seventeen duh.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Because it's visible.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
Yeah, in the quarter as well. Uh. They're both pretty
darn cool over dates. So Bob Rock comes in next,
tos close to getting to all the lowmenttage morgans, and
he shows us an eighteen ninety five oh in n
GCX forty with a sticker.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
That's fun, cool coin.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
Where's the other side? I want to see you? Oh
there is Okay, sir, I'm here. I'm here everybody, I promise.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
Slab Daddy says, my coolest thing is this po one
quarter in an og H first low ball OgH i've
ever seen? Yeah, me too, I can't think I've ever
seen it all.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Yeah, because people would collect this kind of stuff don't
really go the low ball route.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
Yeah, eighteen o six quarter in PCGS poor one. And
it is a green label holder, which is pretty darn cool.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
Yeah that again holder, very cool.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
Vance Atkins says, nineteen thirty five thirty four boon and
he shows us his boon commemorative in a PCGS MS
sixty four rattler holder.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Looks like a nice coin. Very nice, that does.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Richie says. This is an ancient Roman denarius. It was
minted from sixty eight BC, twenty six years before the
assassination of Julius Caesar. It features Diana, Goddess of Hunting,
on the obverse and a depiction of the Claudian bore
attacked by dog on the reverse. This coin has serrated edges,
it has exceptional color and is one of the finest

(42:46):
examples of this type in existence. And he goes on
to say Aaron Burke said this was the finest example
they had ever had at HJB. I need to research
the pedigree of this coin as it may have been
in some prominent collections. I purchased this going from Aaron
Burke at HARR and J. Burke p Place coin not
for sale Wow, that's pretty The color.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Out it is just phenomenal. It's nicely centered, it's just
got really good surfaces and h yes, serrated edge.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Toned ancients are pretty cool, don't get me wrong, Like
I kind of like those things.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Yeah, you don't generally see them because you know, they
pull ancient coins out of the ground, and because they
do that, then they have to mess with them so
much to clean them up. Yea, and tony just generally
not part of the problem, you know.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
The more that she had mentioned looking for the pedigree
of it, and the reason that I think that that's
kind of important in this is because that that actually
is probably why the coin is toned. It's been a
collection for a really long time. Yeah, probably in an
envelope or in a coin tray or something, and that's
why it toned like this.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
So well, very cool, really nice coin. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
Jody Dotson shows us in eighteen seventy five s twenty
cent piece in an you see fine fifteen. I was
just playing with a couple of those today my desk. Yeah,
they're fun. Joseph Horseman shows us in eighteen seventy six
quarter in n GC proof sixty six with a CAC sticker.
Hard to tell from the pictures, but it does look

(44:16):
like it's got some tony looks like a pretty little coin.
I love proof seeding. That's contrast too, yep yep. And then,
last but not least, Steve Wesley I coin in Peoria.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
We're definitely going to finish.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
High note shows us a seventeen ninety five half dollar
in PCGS Fine twelve. What a fun coin. I love
early half. I want to see that for a second.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Hold on first thing I always do whenever I see
these start counting stars. Yeah, yeah, fifteen stars.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
I love early halves for some reason.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
I They're great.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
One of the most expensive coins I ever bought was
an early half. It was a seventeen ninety six half
in AU fifty eight, which monster coins, fellow and six
figure coin. But uh yeah, I just love really have
very cool, very very cool. You guys are amazing. You
guys bring the heat again every single time, every stinking time.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Craziness. Thank you so much. Yeah, no, thanks everybody, and
thanks to well thanks to Barry Gary behind the scenes,
the unnamed source, the unseen source for taking care of
everything behind the board tonight. Thank you to Justin to
Fozzy to Arrus, to Leanna to Ernesto for doing everything

(45:43):
that they do. But most of all, thank you to
you who listened, because you're who we do this for.
So we will be back once before Christmas at least, right, yes,
at least Yeah, so maybe this rule. Maybe this year
we'll read another story.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
Oh no is, can I be a choose your on adventure?

Speaker 2 (46:08):
No? Oh? Okay, serious And if anybody knows what I'm
talking about, that was you're old school. You're an old
school card a long time if you know what That's
all I gotta tease you with. It's like, go to
the website, You'll know what I'm talking about. Here. Was

(46:28):
that twenty twelve or thirteen? Yeah, maybe it's been a
long time it is. Wow, Well we will waite partner.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
No, I'm good, buddy. Thank you for hanging out with
us tonight. You guys rock everybody in the chat. I
love you, Love you bye. Wait, that's might be my
new thing on my video.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
I did.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
It's the show, but I'm just not sure. It feels odd. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Anyway, thanks for coming and we will talk to you
next time on episode one two of the Coin Show podcast.

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