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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Here's Matt Dinger and Mike Nottleman on the Coin Show Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
It is once again, episode two forty two of the
Coin Show Podcast. I'm like and I am Matt. Hello,
and we're gonna try this train wreck again Crash to
Do and Improved episode two. On tonight's episode of The
Coin Show Podcast, we are going to, uh, let's see,
We're going to have our favorite segment, which is the
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coolest thing that walked into our shops yep. We're going
to recap last year's results and the highlights, and we
are just going to talk to the people that are
here in our chat and answer their questions. It'll be
ask us anything kind of night. First, as always, the news.
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Speaker 4 (01:49):
Uh, and.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Heritage is going to do their fun signature auction in
a couple of days coming up. Y Yeah, this is
going to be some big coins. So as you see
it right here in the in the pictures, an eighteen
ninety four US dime one and twenty four known.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yep. They like to go real big at the beginning
of the year at the fun auction, just to set
the tone and set the kind of how things are
going to go for the year.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah. Greg Growhan likes to step up and swing bag.
He does. So. Yeah, this is just this is a
really cool coin. Dark.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I can't say I've ever seen this coin in hand.
I've actually seen a couple of these, but I can't
ever remember seeing this one.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I ever seen one of these.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yeah, they put him on display every once in a while,
and you can go look at him at some of
the expositions, but I.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Don't remember a branch mint proof.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yes, so let's see. So cool coin. It's just heavily
toned and.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
They're going to sell this eighteen ninety four US Barbara.
They're gonna have. Uh, let's see what else are they
going to sell us? Silver? Say that three times fast.
I couldn't even say it the first time.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Twenty seventy Saint Gods and sixty five plus c AC.
That's a rare coin. And then let's see eighteen eighty
three double Legal Proof sixty six DeepCam, which is one
of only ninety two examples struck. So they're they're bombing
off the rare stuff. Yeah, yeah, this is gonna be
some stuff. Yeah. Cool, love a good action with some
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rare stuff in it.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
What have you been doing with your CAC slab? So?
Are you putting them in ECGs boxes? You're putting them
into n GC boxes.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
We've been putting them in the standard just the cardboard
dudes that hold slabs. Okay, well, guess what I see
as opera out Look, it's like, I don't see this
as being anythingfferent than any others except it probably just
says the AC. Well, I'm sure if you look at
the picture at the top here, actually it does kind
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of look a little bit different. If you look at
the way the box is shaped at that, you see
that that's different a little wider. It looks kind of
like a like almost like a diamond or a stop sign.
Almost not quite, but.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Like I said, a little wider in the middle. Yeah,
it does look like it's a stack, but uh, probably easier
to open too.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Doesn't quite look rectangular like the PCGS and n GC
boxes are.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
It looks a little different. And the other thing is that, Okay,
so now that I really look at it, this one
opens up to the middle of the coin.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
That is not a that is that looks like it's halfway.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
It's a little less than halfway. It looks like because
it's above.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
That's far more than you get in your typical NGC
or PCGS spot.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
That's very true to think about that, right, that was
what I was thinking.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Gotcha, I'm picking up what you're putting down.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Let's see the Is it the mint that found this
out after nearly one hundred years. Yeah, the plaster model
for the nineteen thirty two Washington Quarter that was design
and sculpted by Lord Garden Fraser has resurfaced.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Reading the story here to see if they'll tell us
where they found it.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
So I love the fact that this was the this
was the design that won the contest, and yet they
still didn't use it until nineteen ninety eight for the
Washington gold coin.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Isn't that funny?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, I mean it's a cool design, and they cast
about used it that way. I mean they went with
a very faithful rendition of this, but not quite the same.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Sure. Oh, it's one of those things where look, it's no,
it is not signific it can be different. But when
you think about the sexism that you know pretty much
caused it.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
And you know the crazy part if you read the story,
this obverse plaster Molde for her winning nineteen thirty two
quarter submission is a significant discovery unknown to the numismatic
community and tea until twenty twenty five. So this thing
was discovered in the last ten days apparently.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, they didn't know it existed at all. Weird, but
it just looks like the webinar quarters. Yeah yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Mean I think it does very strange that it just
happens to pop up all these years later. But that
just goes to show you how much stuff is still
floating around in the world the needs and can be discovered.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Moving into the world of the US mint the Americans
over eagle proofs are available. I've always kind of you know, look,
I understand that they made these. They made these probably
a month and a half half ago when they had time,
you know, but do we really need to have the
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proof silver eagles right away?
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Well, I mean the unks are usually out at the
beginning of the year, so having the proofs out is new.
It's not a new thing. I mean, it's not a
couple of years.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Oh no, no, no, they have the last few years since
I think twenty eighteen they have because they put them
in the congratulations sets. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Well, you know, it's funny I have it available for that.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
But still it's like, wouldn't it be gradually because I
didn't offer it side by side.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I think that they're putting it out now so that
they can put out the other seven either Mint or
Finish combinations out throughout the year.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Unfortunately. I think you're probably right, which is sad.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
It is the scary part. Yeah, I know, it's really
sad because look at the big drop off too from
twenty twenty four. From twenty three to twenty four, they
made four running thirty six four and eighty four coins
in twenty twenty three in twenty twenty four, they made
two hundred and eighty three thousand and sixty two coins,
which is a big drop off.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Well that's a lesson they made for either type in
twenty twenty one. I know.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Kind of crazy, Yeah, kind of crazy. It looks like
even those are cooling down, which to those are like
a typically hot item from the mint. But that just
goes to show that when you make fifteen different ones,
sales are going to suffer.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
And as I was showing, you know, the Congratulations set
is also out. It has the same See it's like
this is where you put a different mint market. Yeah,
you know, deal it with this one. Make them in Denver.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Well, but I mean people they actually I think they're
actually thinking of the consumer with this one, because they're
actually having them out at the beginning of the year
so that people that want to say congratulations at the
beginning of the year can do so. No, I agree,
having all of these bought up by collectors who are
just after that different mint mark or finish or whatever
it is they throw in there.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
So yeah, no, I agree. I think that if you
look at the sales of the Congratulations sets, they've been
relatively steady throughout the entire program. I mean, they've had
a couple of peak years, but mostly about thirty thousand
is where they finish up.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
And you know that nine So that's a pretty good average,
right around thirty.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Cool twenty twenty five American Innovation Dollar for Arkansas is
now available in rolls and bags. Sir, that's pronounced ar Kansas.
Just actually, I will tell you a funny story. In Kansas,
there is the ar Kansas River. I am not kidding you.
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I have lived. They call it the Arkansas River. It's
not your Kansas, that's Arkansas. It's Arkansas. That's right. So
so for Arkansas, they're let's see, they have.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Ray montahuees on the coin.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
But what's the what's the uh? He designed the US
Navy's Oliver Hazard Perry class frigate.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I believe that's a female, by the way, Yeah, you're
right right with a knee. Yes, she she was a
pioneering engineer who designed the oliver Hazard Perry class frigate.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
So she designed the frigate as we know it. Yeah,
that's cool. I said that when I was a kid
and got my mouth. If you want to see what
the rest of the of the innovation dollars for next year.
Take a look at this article. So you see it's
gonna be ar Kansas for you, Florida, Michigan, and Texas.
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So you know space travel in Florida. You're gonna have
space travel in Texas and Michigan. Of course the auto industry.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
You know, three out of these four coins, they really
just hit the mark, this first one, this Arkansas one.
If the way I always look at these as if
I had no idea what this coin was about, could
I figure it out? And I would not be able
to figure that out. I would think that she was
a giant woman who loved to destroy ships in the ocean.
Like that's what I would think this one was.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I like to play with them in about.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Correct, but right, and in Florida like Florida Shuttle, Yes,
that's where they shoot them from. Awesome, Michigan cars. Yeah,
well that's where they build a lot of cars. And
then Texas yeah okay, yeah, uh Houston, we have a problem,
you know, like that's those are all pretty self explanatory
except that first one.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Well, I mean this is this is the the uh
the series, and that's what you get when you when
you take on these things like innovation. Yeah, I got it,
I get it.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
But I'm just just I'm just being just.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
In time, just being the reverse quote proof innovation dollars
for last year or out. Yeah. So this is in case,
you know you you don't have enough to order because
they've got payment DeMont and you've got the proofs, you
got the reverse proofs. They're not available in any any
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sets or anything like that. There's no chance of just
getting him. And let's see how many of these sold
three thousand and seven seventy in the first six days
twenty twenty three set as old forty thousand out of
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the fifty five thousand they made of the reverse proof set. Okay,
it's just to me, it's like, I don't know why
you're making.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
These, Like I think the Alabama with the Saturn five
rocket looks pretty cool with the moon and the way
that one's done. The Illinois I'm lost. I mean, I
see a plow and I see the wheat, but I
don't like that Washington Carver, Okay, yeah, looks interesting. And
then the was it the fibrillator, Yeah, Maine an interesting,
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but I mean I don't that would lose it out
that one loses me a little bit too. So so
the twenty twenty four Morgan and Peace dollars set, Yeah,
has uh kind of lost momentum? Well sure we kind
of called this, didn't we?
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yes, we did too many, too many and no context whatsoever. Yeah, yeah, no,
I agree. I agree. One hundred forty seven thousand of
the reverse proofs over dollars. Yeah, I don't know what
the mintage limit was, but I don't even think they're
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going to hit that.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Yeah, I mean, there's all a lot of them, don't
get me wrong. One hundred and forty seven thousand units
is a lot, but still well, last year they sold
out though, I know, And that's the part of the
thing is they are popular, yes, shown by this, but
the fact that they're selling less than last year's example
shows us that one of two. Or it could be
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that that they that people are just tired of of
seeing a new yearly set, or that they they don't
get twenty twenty four for the Morgan dollar.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I don't know, or their their their desire for the
new design and a new novel finish has been satisfied, right,
It was just.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
They were happy with the one year release. They were
happy with that and then they just don't want them
every year. I think that may be probably extremely accurate. Yeah,
it's hard to say, but that's if we If I
was a bet man, I would put money on one
of those answers.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
So, if you were trying to kill mid sales, right right,
you would do what you make convoluted designs. Yeah, you
would give poor value for money. Sure. Yeah, So the
us MEN has decided to increase their prices their cloud
products this year on cloud products now all right, clad products.
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So yeah, it's going to be make a five percent
increase for rolls, bags, coin boxes, and ornaments and the
other cloud products. I guess there's what I hear from
the proof sets mid sets fifteen percent.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Yeah, I mean it tells me one of two things.
They're having trouble acquiring, or they're they're not necessarily having trouble,
but it's costing them more to acquire the things that
they need to make these, or they just want to
make more money. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
I think there's again a third, and that would be that.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
They don't want anybody to buy them.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
They really are trying to discourage people from buying them.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Maybe they're tired of making them. Maybe they don't want
to make eighty seven thousands.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
The big thing is is that if we're not going
to sell, you know, one hundred thousand of them, why
are we making Because it takes up you know, think
about it. If you didn't make proof sets, you have
the entire San Francisco min you could make bullion there.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Disagree with you, I don't disagree with you. I've been
one to argue against all these stupid sets and packages
and products they're making. But here we are. You just
keep going and keep going and keep going.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
More, more and more. Have you seen the designs for
this year's quarters? This year's quarters? No, I haven't where
they are. Oh I'm on the house designs for the
twenty twenty five Women's Quarters, and they are going to
start with I. B. Wells. Now you may have never
heard of Isa B. Wells. Nope, but she's a chicagoan.
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Oh well, there you go, and we have a Uh.
One of the biggest streets leading into the city of
Chicago is I B. Wells Drive. So I was going
to say it's either street or park or both, not
just street right now?
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
She was suffragist, she was civilzed, its activist, Juliette Gordon Lowe,
founder of the Girl Scouts. Okay, I like it, Doctor
Vera Rubin, she invented dark matter.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
That's that phrase still bugs me. Invented it? Well, she
just discovered or theorized about it, or maybe she dreamed
about it. I don't know, but I think.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
More of what it was was she invented the concept
because the more they learn in Yeah, but but the
more they learn about science, the more they're starting to
figure out that that the term is really more of
a placeholder while we figure out what this force is
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that is interacting with stuff. Okay, get off Stacy park Milburgh,
who was an advocate for disability, right, all right, I
can get down with that. And the last one in
the whole program is going to be Althia Gibson.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Let me guess, wait, let me guess. Hold on, she
played tennis.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Good job game. It was either that.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Adminton right, or with the waffle iron. I'm not quite
sure yet, but okay, fair enough, she.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Had she founded waffleles, that'll be. I mean, there are
so many women that should have been on these coins,
and just they're never going to be. I'm gonna put
away soapbox and move on to there's a.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Lot of women that he'd recognize that there's only so
many coins. I don't don't A four year program was
way too short. Yes, I agree, I would not be
the one who wanted to make the decision on who
made it and who didn't.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
And finally in the news, this is the part that
I really really look forward to every year, and this
one is kind of special because these are the designs
for the semi quin centennial coins. Yeah, so there's going
to be a civil Rights quarter. I like it.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Are these finalized or are these the conceptual designs?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
These are the designs that have been recommended.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Gotcha? So this is what they said we should do, yes,
and we'll see what they do.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Correct. So that's what the CCAC has has recommended. Got it.
So this is the quarter? That is the quarter. And
then they show some of the other operas candidate designs.
I think from what they had to work with, they
probably did choose the best one.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
I think so too. I like that one is the
one they picked. And then did they show the reverse?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Yeah, this are a little bit further down.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
I think they picked what these two here to kind
of recommend.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yeah, it's I mean, there were a lot of cool designs.
I like some of these.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
I like that we shall overcome. I want to see
how that translates into metal seven.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Would look really cool though.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Yeah, but that's like they're reminds you know what Reverso
seven reminds me too much of, Like Honey, I Shrunk
the kids.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Okay. Well, is to also be a women's suffrage quarter.
So if you go to the next slide, Yeah, so
this is your you know, votes for women.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Like this bottom design here on the right, the hands, Yeah,
that's probably my favorite, just holding up the you're working
together to hold up the crushing weight of suffrage of
men and there. Yeah, they're jerk jerk man.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I'm glad that's a family show. Then they have the
the other overse candidates, which really didn't seemed to vary
a whole lot.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Well, you know what, I bet they had some some
guidance that was like, must be a woman suffragette.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Walking towards the mid stride.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Yeah, like that was probably the guidance they got on
that one.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
And then you have, uh, then you have the reverse candidates.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
I like them one they picked.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I like them. I think by far that's the best
one of all these. Yes, they did good, good job.
Oh what the next one? Okay, so now you have
abolition abolitionism, and of course Frederick Douglas is good. I
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like the bottom reverse better than I like the top one.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I don't know of the top one with the concentric
rings and the off center kind of ring in the
middle and the.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Freaking but I like the art of the bottom line better.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Okay, I'll give that to you.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
And then if you look at the the other it's
like Frederick Douglas. There were a lot of good choices
that they could have made on this.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
I don't think they were like the eight different faces
of Frederick Douglas.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Though, I mean, I only don't like number six.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
I think number five kind of looks like a really
bad photoshop.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Here and it may not have translated well into a
into coin. No.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Number one is awesome.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I like that one, and that's the one that they're
really focusing out good. And then the US candidates, So
you had several different you know, of these broken chain.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
What's up with the tiny people? Who's making tiny people?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Well, look at the giant chains, and that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
No, it's a tiny person the change are normal size.
That's what I'm saying. It's it's tiny people. Somebody has
a somebody has a thing for for howney, I shrink
the kids, I think. But yeah, no, they picked the
right ones for sure.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
That nurns the US Constitution. So this one is going
to be a little bit more esoteric.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
I like the bottom the bottom one for sure. Yeah,
I just like it better. Liberty hall and and we
the people, and you know, the liberty on the obverse
is awesome.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I really like that. Yeah. But so there are the
obverse candidates down here. To be honest with you, it's like,
I I really kind of like one in one a
trade dollar. I don't know why it reminds me of
a trade dollar, it just does.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Yeah, I agree with that a little bit.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I can see that, you know, the hippie down on
number three, she's yeah, the number four just doesn't It
looks very unhappy.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Yeah, that's true. And the features are accentuated a little
bit too.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
It's like, yeah, I don't really like it as a design,
and candidates are going to, uh, there are some of
these that are like, you know, this is like the
most iconic.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Quarter work have for a while I mean, the Capitol
building is cool, but it's been done. The tree is
a really cool design, the Constitution of the tree, but
again doesn't translate very well to being about the Constitution.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Well, and you've got that exactly right, because this is
not the anniversary of the Constitution, the anniversary of the
Decoration of Independence.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Yeah, you know, I think that.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
And which one did they go with? Go back up
here they went with The gatinets are just.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Well, these are other ones that that didn't they didn't
go with, gotcha, right, that's kind of like we the
People here at the bottom. That was pretty cool. Yeah,
that's constitution.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
It's really cool designs in here. The we the People won.
Number seven is what you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yeah, I mean that was one. The one below it
is cool too, for the Constitution has the quill and
the paper and we the People.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Well, that was what I was talking about, number seven.
But but again I think that that's just misappropriated. Yeah, okay, okay,
I didn't see that one. You're talking about number ten,
and yeah, during the Constitution's just misappropriated. That's that's my opinion.
And finally, the semi quincentennial Declaration of Independence now we're
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getting to what we're all.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yeah, liberty bell bringing back on a coin, why not?
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah? So why you're doing a constitution quarter, I don't know,
but they're going to do a definition of independence quarter.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Let's see which one of these what you liked? Well,
hippies back, number three, hippies back.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
You know what I've noticed about all of these designs.
I like number two? Yeah, what's that? Not an eagle anywhere?
That's true.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Maybe they got the note they were like, hey, guys,
we got to really lay off the eagles, like I mean,
they're cool off. I need to stay America like a big,
angry looking eagle. But just lay off this time. Number nine,
Oh there is okay.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I can't win the night. It's could be white.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Oh man. I really like number ten actually with the
rings on the from the reverse of the Fugio sand Yeah,
that would have been cool.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
No, I like to throw back, throwback to US coin collectors, but.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
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Speaker 3 (27:10):
All right, well, you ready to answer some questions, buddy, he.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Let's take some questions, because there have been some very
thoughtful ideas.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Joe bo Hannon says, here's a question. I've recently had
difficulty finding decent prices for sq's at shows, but haven't
seen any major movement in either listed retail or wholesale
prices in years. What gives.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
H you know?
Speaker 3 (27:35):
I think that the market for sq's is really interesting one.
It is one that does move and doesn't often get
reflected in the price guides and the places where they
do post numbers. You know, Exquisite coins sell for exquisite money.
They always will, especially in that series. Coins with dripping
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luster or boom and luster orruck, well struck coins or
coins just generally attractive will definitely bring quite a bit
more than the run of the mill coin in the
same grade. So that does make a difference.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Uh, average collectors sleeps on standing Liberty courters. I love
that coin, It's all my favorites. But they're beautiful.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Yeah, but the dealers are kind of catching on. They're
looking at comps. They're looking at similar sales over over time,
and uh, the the people that put out the price
guides and stuff, I do not envy that job at all.
I would not want to do that ever, because that
is a lot of data you have to parse to
get the information that somebody's gonna want. And sometimes sometimes
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they sleep on certain things, like they just don't get
a chance to update them. And I think slq's might
be one of those. I would watch out for maybe
an update coming coming down the pipes at some point.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
And the hobby lost you know, our our expert on
us ques and yeah, yeah, a couple of years ago.
So I don't think that, uh, there's anybody out there
that has that kind of knowledge on that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Yeah, that's a good point. It's a very good point.
My friend Paul.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Bloom commenting on Lord Garden Frasier's design her g and
God was much better than the one used.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Now what what in codd are you talking about? What
the codfish is?
Speaker 2 (29:25):
You? Are you speaking of their friend? This is no
fish fright here?
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Oh boy, Jack Rabbis says, I need a new black
box or some fakes. And so did you fill your
last one up, because that's what I do. I filled
one up already at the office. Are we talking about
slap fakes now? I mean maybe filled up.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
A black box? I mean we have we have the
famous black cabinet.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
I mean I have a box that is black and
yeah big, and it's full to the top. I literally
filled it up, so I was being very literal.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
We got a couple of new ones for the collection
last week, four Morgan and what's the other one? Ninety
two ccteiny.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Notable fakes this week, fas we saw, were some really
bad silver eagles from two different people. One one we're
trying to be uncirculated, but one was trying to be
proof and they're both kind of like a No.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Eight has a question for you.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Yeah, Ace is asking about the seventeen ninety nine bust dollar,
which we might see here in a little bit. Is uh,
is a broadstruck coin worth more than or more or
less than an off center coin? Well? Unfortunately, yes, I
believe when a coin is designated as an off center
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it does bring a slight premium to a coin that
is considered a broad struck, even though the difference can
be very minute in between the two different coins. So
broad struck is basically when a coin is struck outside
of the collar, it allows the coin to spread out.
Sometimes it can be directly from the center. Sometimes it
can be off center and squish out one way or
the other, and then an off center. The way I've
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always been explained to technical to technically describe an off
center is a coin that is struck off center to
the point where it is missing design elements. So if
you're missing design elements at all, then it's an off center.
But if you're not and it is off center, then
it is an uncentered broad strike. And that was the
way it was explained to me by a guy named
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Pete Bissel, many many years ago. Pete has been dead
for many years, but that was the way it was
explained to me.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
It was he was the expert. I so this begs
a question for me, so never mind, get back to it. Well, no,
it was, it was. It was one of the things
about so if these are made out of screw press
and they're made closed collar, correct, can you have an
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off center?
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Well you can, I mean it can. It can come
down and strike and and and be uh it can
it can cause an off center strike sure, yeah, they happen.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
That's being broad struck.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
I mean, we'll see the difference between a broad struck
and an off center strike is the the amount of
off center it is. If it's off center a little
bit but you're not missing any design elements, then it's
technically a broad strike. But if it's off center a
little bit more and you're missing the top of a
letter or something, that it's an off center. And it's
really both of the same, both are a product or
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the same problem.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Mostly trying to think in terms of the screw press
and the closed collar. I mean, it's like the process
was so different.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
It was so hands on and like, yeah, yeah, I
don't know, I don't know. I've never really played with
the screw press before. I'm sure I could figure it out.
I looked at diagrams in touch. I could probably figure
out how to do it.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
So which one is more valuable?
Speaker 3 (33:07):
It really has to do a designation. I would say
that an offiner designation is more valuable than a broadstrike. Kevin,
are you going to be there? Are you coming? I'd
love to see there, buddy, Kevin says, just three hundred
and fourteen days ago until matts Guancho.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Put him in charge of.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
I mean, I got a lot of work to do.
I need help.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Jack Young knows. Do you have exhibits or educational tables? Jack?
Speaker 3 (33:35):
You know what, mister Young, I'm just going to give
you a table.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Come over.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
I will give you a table to set up your
awesome display on counterfeits. It will be a great thing
to have at the show. So just yes, you have
a table. It's on me.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Come on over, Jack Young, the counterfeit King. Yeah right,
come and see it.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
I want Jack Young here to show off what we're
up against and talk about what we can do.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
I'll tell you what it's like again doing the lord's work. Yep,
that's right. And ze Fiel unpopular thought, get rid of
the us MINT in the law of private miss take
over US coinage. I am going to explain to you
why that's not a good idea, because the us MINT
is a profit making entity for our government. It's one
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of the very few that actually makes a profit from
the senior aage and from making coinage. If you take
that process to somebody else, you're going to give up
all of that profit. And it is substantial.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Yeah, yeah, that's true, very very true, and I think
that because he's all in beautiful, beautiful. There you go, Jack,
come on over. I will message you with info about
the hotel and all that fun stuff too if you want. So, yeah,
there you go. Another reason to come to the show.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Jack.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
You're go to be there at the table showing off
all the cool stuff that he knows all about.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Yes, well, friend, Jazz, So let's uh, let's ask our
unnamed source Barry.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Oh you want to bring Barry on it? And sure, Barry?
Are you okay?
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Here? He is?
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Hi Berry, good evening.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Hello, So Barry, how did things turn out in the
Coolest Thing last year? Uh?
Speaker 3 (35:27):
It finished? Five to five? Matt's Spanish Bolivian excavation coin
pushed him to a drool. Oh, so the the So
you're telling me that because of the lost episode that
we had a draw that sucks?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I called. I called because I kicked your what.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
I think five five? Says otherwise? Friend, I just saying, ah,
all right, Michael, are you ready to get your butt
kicked in the Coolest Thing?
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Like that's gonna happen? Well, you know I'm from last year.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Oh whatever, buddy, it was tied high.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Five five whatever.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Hey, just because I came through the first run of
this I cleaned your clock. Because I came through in
the eleventh hour doesn't mean it's not any more or
less valid. Okay, tell us what you brought. Don't you
have a little uh a drop for us? No, I'm
just we're just gonna throw it that way because that's
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more fun.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Okay. So this week in our shop we had a
really really cool coin walk in. And if you can tell,
because there's absolutely no context to size on this, it's
a half dollar.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
First thing I do whenever I see these, I start
counting stars. So thirteen star coin. It's an eighteen oh
six yep. Uh, it is say drape bust half lettered edge.
These were made on a screw press. This coin has
ah I want to say, it's the ball or the
knob six, right, And it has a really heavily recut
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t y on it.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
I was just gonna point that out. It does have
a really heavily cut t y which actually will make
it identification of the diepair really easy.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Probably it certainly did. It made that knob six really
easy to call. Yeah. The reverse of the coin has
seen you know, some light were it's it's a nice
looking coin. It's it's pleasing to the eye. It looks
very it is and it's it's got that that just
good look that you want to see in a coin
of this age. It's not overly worn, it's not it's
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not too gray. It's just kind of perfect.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Yeah, it's a Goldilocks coin.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
It's just right. Yes. Yeah, it's just kind of walked
into door and we bought it and uh, we're sending
it off to PCGS to have uh have their little
there a little party with it and see what they
think of it.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
I think that's pretty darn cool. But you know what's
cooler what I brought. I brought a silver baseball. Basically,
this is a non circulating legal tender. It is seven
New Zealand dollars made by the country of Neway. It
is made out of silver. It has Swarsky elements, which
are little crystals.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
But this is the.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Seven Wonders of the missed Seven Wonders of the World
by the Mysteries of the World series, and it is
a seven ounce I believe, yeah, seven ounce ball of
silver that is the globe of the of the world
and in certain places it has Swarsky crystals inlaid into
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the coin.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
So is at the impact crater from Chick Saloop? Yeah, yeah,
crater here has h San Francisco earthquake here. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
I love that. It's the Seven Wonders of the new.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
One News of the World. Yeah, it's the seven ancient
Wonders of the World. Doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
But if you didn't like it, I mean that's the
reason that I picked this is because it's just so
it's just kind of weird because it was issued by
a new way, but its face value is seven news
even dollars. And it was struck at the Mint of Poland,
so you just have three countries involved in making this thing.
So is this solid? Yeah, it's a ball hollow. No,
it's not hollow. It is a ball of solid silver.
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It is a little bit smaller than a baseball, maybe
like a like a racquetball ball, or maybe a little
bit bigger seven. Yeah, it's chunky, but it's pretty dark cool.
It was just one of those things. And if you
look at the picture here we can we have what
all the different new wonders are, which is Machu Picchu,
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the Great Wall of China, the taj Mahal Christ the Redeemer,
the Roman colisseum Cha and Petra. So that's where those
Sworsky crystals are located on the globe. It's a strange thing,
but I just thought it was funny enough that I
wanted to bring it as my coolest thing.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
I thought you would enjoy it. I hope they do.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Yeah. See, well they say that official baseball is five
to five and a half ounces, so it's heavier than
a baseball, but it is smaller. So pretty darn strange
little thing.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
I could see. Go to bat with a silver slugger.
Did you know how much hurt.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
You ever hit a baseball too close to your your
hands and you get that? Can you imagine doing that with.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
One of a little bit of bats?
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Oh, that's true. You're you're old.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
You guys use them together when they cracked the day,
we just cut a log off read use it. We
throw turtles. Yeah, we threw it stuff.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Yeah, rocks.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
He's a platinum bat now. Uh. The silver slugger was
was given to uh a hitter every year by I
want to say, it's Louisville Slugger that issues it. And
so you take a silver slugger bat yeah, silver is
denser than a baseball. Who knew? Thank you had to
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go we our audience, h okay, but just snarky jerks.
I love it, love it all right. You can go
to uh, you can go to our Friends of the
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Speaker 3 (41:51):
Me back what's wrong with you that there are seventy
five hundred people in there that are Friends of the
Coin Show and that ask coin questions and talk about
coins all day and vote on who had the best piece.
So if you're not there, you're missing out on a
great time. There is no selling allowed, so it is
all about information.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
You don't have to all fun and all just knowledge. Yep,
that's right. Boom and there's a vote up already.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
Yeah, there you go, There you go. Well, friend, I
much prefer this episode quality to the last one. I
think we release this one.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
I have a feeling that we can actually call this one.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
Yeah, I think we can. So yeah, not two forty
two point.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Five, Well it's two forty two point two, yeah, you know. Uh.
So we would like to thank all the people that
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Justin and don't forget and of course the unnamed source
Gary Swand but not least I got you got who
Uh yeah, he's a solid contributor and possibly one of
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your biggest tormentors.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
So I like that mine, my biggest mentor of them
put me together?
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Is this than a mentor? Your friends? Just keep me round? So,
but most of all, thank you to you who listened,
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Speaker 3 (43:53):
You know where you can't find us in a week
or so. Take doc just saying yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
You won't be able to find anybody on take tag
of oak.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
All right, help that might make my phone ring least
believe it or not, it might, I'm okay with it.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Yeah, So thank you to everybody for listening, and uh,
we will do another coin show. Hangout in a couple
of weeks, and then we will be back for episode
two forty three of the Coin Show podcast. Paul, She's
gonna vote with the understanding that mine may be the
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O one O five A.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
Well, mine is the the Oh that's a really cool
piece of silver that's shaped like the earth and has
a bunch of crystals in it.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
A golden maple is saying hi to Spicy Mike. Yeah,
the show is over. You made it just in time.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
For us to you know what, in about ten minutes
after we're done, you can go back and watch the
whole thing.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
So you really can't say but thank you to everybody,
and thanks to all the people that help make as possible.
Thank you for putting up with my you know, just
general nonsense during this show. And uh, we will see
you again on episode two forty three or in the
hangout of the coin Show podcast. Goodbye everybody, so long everybody.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
I know as buddy as well. The song gets together,
we'll sing louder than we've ever This isn't forever Forever night.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
We got some movo.
Speaker 4 (45:48):
This isn't forever? What was singing our song? We forget
that sending? Is that its purpose, the worthiest thing we do.
This is forever for referation. Night we've got tomorrow, because.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
This is it, bereaf forever.
Speaker 4 (46:31):
For refers, night we've got tomorrow. O God, this is
his breafer. This isn't the end, until next time, until
next time, until next time in Imporence, this isn't the end.
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It so last time, until last time, the so last time,