April 20, 2025 • 30 mins
Join Mike and Matt for another exciting episode of The Coin Show podcast - Episode 245!
They'll dive into fascinating numismatic topics, share collector stories, discuss the news in numismatics, and check out their coolest things.
Tune in to learn something new, enjoy some collector camaraderie, and have fun with Mike and Matt.
They'll dive into fascinating numismatic topics, share collector stories, discuss the news in numismatics, and check out their coolest things.
Tune in to learn something new, enjoy some collector camaraderie, and have fun with Mike and Matt.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the Coin Show podcast, the show about coins
and coin collecting, and not just any show. This is
the number one coin collecting podcast going ten years strong.
Here's Matt Dinger and Mike Notleman on the Coin Show Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
It is episode two forty five of the Coin Show Podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I am Mike and I'm Man and we have a
voted show for you tonight.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
We have all kinds of cool stuff. We have a
grudge match between me and Matt for coolest thing. It
is going to be epic tonight. We want you to
go to Friends of the Coin Show podcast and vote
for your favorite when you see them, don't do it
until we post it.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
As from the meantime, hanging around here.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Because we've got we've got some educational stuff coming today
and we have a couple of announcements on some stuff
that's coming our way as well as a preview of
our trip to the Central State's Numismdic Society Convention.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, I'm so excited for that.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
So all that is coming up, But first, as always,
the news, and the news is brought to us by
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Speaker 3 (01:37):
You still need us risk watches. Wait, well what about this?
What about those things?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
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to pastor, and I don't think they really like it.
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Speaker 3 (02:03):
Well let's take a look at the news.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, so they've done gone and did it. Yes, I'll answer,
I'm so angry. So uh in Director of Ventures Gibson
has been asked to step down.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Boom, big boo.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
She was awesome. She was the best. Uh, she was
the best the directory that we've had in a long time.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Very good, yep, very very good. I thought so too,
very very open, very.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Accessible, personable, transparent personally.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah, I mean just she addressed a lot of the
gripes of the collecting community against the US MINT website
and otherwise. Uh, there's nothing bad I can say about
the lady. She did a great job. Yeah she did.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I mean it's like the if you have a public
face of a giant, you know, model, with you get
that job done, you're really doing something.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yep. Well, sad to see you go, interested to see
who's going to come in next? Uh should be? Yeah,
I have a I have a.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I have a line on who it's going to be.
I think I know who it is too. But and
it's going to be bringing two Yeah. And so since
I'm mad at the US Man, I can I can
talk about something about the US men actually makes me happy.
The US Man has produced and yeah, it's make this
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does make me happy. Last episode we talked about the
presidential guidance to eliminate set production and very little fanfare.
They basically ignored him. So the United States produced just
over one point eight eight billion coins in the first
three months of this year.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
That's a ton.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, And the quote guidance from the president came down
at the end of February. So, uh, the at the
time they had made they'd made like three hundred thousand
or five hundred thousand cents so far this year, and
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in March they made three hundred thousand or three hundred
million cents.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Yeah, So I mean it, They'll never be rare. There's
one hundreds of millions of them.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
There are now nine hundred million of them that have
been made. They are literally almost a billion examples of them. Well,
at the end of this month's report, and we're only
in April, right, so it's like we know that, Look,
they're disrupting government and they're doing a lot of things,
but there are certain things in our government that just
don't turn it on and off. Wod switch admits.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Right, because a lot of that stuff, I mean, a
lot of these, like the production contracts for the planchets,
have already been done and paid for. I'm sure of it.
They're already there probably most likely. I mean, that stuff
doesn't just appear overnight. It has to you know, go
through a long, lengthy process, which I'm sure, uh, you know,
we're still in the midst of. So that's why they're
(05:07):
still producing these, I'm sure, you know. Give it. Let's
look at it again in like July and we'll see
what we're talking about. But right now I can it
doesn't surprise me a bit that they're still making those coins.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
And nichols just as bad, you know, And there's seventy
four million of them, but nowhere near as many A cents,
And look, the Fed keeps ordering them.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
They're going to still make them, right yep, I think
so too.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
It is still early in the year, so not many
Mint products are available yet, but the staples continue to
march on.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
With leaders being the new twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Proof sets Proof Silver Eagles and the five dollars or
one proof Gold Eagles.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Just got a picture up of the proof set here
that the number one cellar at the Mint.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
They got the pictures right this year so that you.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Know, yeah, they didn't have to send out the the
corrected boxes.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yes, your twenty twenty five proof set is your number
one sellar Proof Silver Eagle, number two side. This is
subscription stuff that's driving it. And you know people are
still getting in the new Mint medals. I haven't seen
the Marine Corps dollar yet, but I'm really impressed with
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the relief they're doing on those medals. So they've all
looked really weird.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Went in here. Did you see this? They're still selling
the twenty twenty one American Innovation Dollars set. There's alost
four hundred and nineteen of them this week.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
It's because they're already made and they're never going to melt. Well,
those things are going to make it all the way
until garage sale time.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I'm just it's just amazing to me that they sold
almost four hundred and twenty of them this week. It's
not probably at the Mint.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Maybe, I don't know, say, i'd have to see what
the states were for that that for that year. Where's
my computer?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
So slow?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
The Michigan Innovation Dollars showed a very strong debut, with
almost a million coins sold in the first couple of weeks. Now,
looking at this, I like this coin.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah. I like how it translated from the line drawings
we saw to the actual struck design. It looks pretty nice. Yeah,
it's like it held up.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
This is definitely an assembly line production line is you know,
that's a truly Michigan innovation. That's Henry Ford. And you
know they managed to put this on there tell the
story without completely cluttering the coin.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah, yeah, I agree. I think that's exactly right. Always
a plus. Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
An Well, okay, yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I'm just getting his pop up ads out of here.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Oh yeah, they're horrible. A fifty dollars Augustus hut Us
Assay Office slug will be offered by Stax Bowers next month.
So this is a you know, the famous fifty dollars
octagonal slug. Have you ever had one of these in
your hand? I have seen one. I think I have
had one.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
It was in a slab. They're super chunky. They contain
like two and a half ounces of gold. They're just
like you get one of those slabs and you're like,
oh my gosh, it things ridiculous. It's like a little brick.
They're crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, it's like the heaviest coin you've ever had in
your hand.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Correct, Yep, yep. These are really awesome. Like I said,
if you've never gotten to see one, if you're ever
at a show and a dealer happens to have one
and they're a nice person that pick it up, let's
take a look at it close. They're super duper cool.
The design on the reverse that concentric lines is just
really really neat to look at and unlike anything you've
(08:53):
ever seen on a coin before. So I think they're neat.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, we got to stop using this because these these
pop ups are brutal at FDR Metal from his fourth
and last inauguration will also be offered tax Powers, but
later this year in their global showcase auction, it looks
kind of worried. Well, that's the thing. So this is
last inauguration, So this is you know, I mean really
just months before he died.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yeah, well there you go. That makes sense.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Kind of haggard from the war. I mean, look, you
think about the politics of today and how much they
beat on you know, Trump and Biden about how old
they were.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
This guy is even that old. And you know, yes,
that's a very good point. Yeah. Uh, let's see.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
America's Hat has released circulating commemory of one dollar coin
celebrating the one hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the Supreme
Court of Canada.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Do we're not get a picture of what the hell?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Show us the coin?
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Good job of Canada. I want to see the coin. No,
they give you a really nice picture of all the
people that I mean, these are what the rock and
then the chief Justices and Supreme Courts. I mean that's cool,
but where's the coin? Man?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Well, I think that would be a kind of important
part of the story. But didn't publish it details, you know, whatever.
But for some to publish it correctly, as many of
you know, Whitman has released the twenty twenty six red book.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yes they have. We were there and it was fun.
It was so much fun.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
And for those of you who haven't seen it, go
back to our YouTube channel.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Take a look. There's all kinds of videos.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
From uh from Baltimore from this year and some really
cool interviews. We had a lot of fun with it.
We did the launch of the Red Book. There's it's
truly a different look.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yep, yep. I've got actually ordered mine to be delivered
some time this week. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
So if you have one and you're at Central States
this week, come by the booth, ask Matt to set
his picture. All right, Oh, I canna get out of
it straight out. I know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Uh, let's see.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Numismatic News asked a pole question this week, do you
think collectable crypto currency is here to stay? Well, here's
my thing with it. It's like, are we talking crypto
are we talking about something physical?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Both?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
How do you collect something that's not physical?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
You slap it on a coin with a sticker and
then there you go, that's what these are.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yeah, but that sticker doesn't do anything. It's like you
can crypto and then the sticker points you at what.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
The sticker has, the the secret code you need to
actually redeem the crypto that's on it and move it. So, yeah,
it is a physical coin. Like if you have one
that's underdeemed there's a bitcoin on there.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
So I was always under the impression that the whole
point of pitcoin was that it doesn't exist. It's ethereal
it just you know, it's in the ether.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Well, but it does exist, and that's the problem. It's there.
People use it. I mean a lot of times criminal
organizations use it. That's I mean, the main the main
part person either of it.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
There are coins. It's like when you spend crypto, you're
not swapping coins.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
That's again, yeah, I mean I get it. It's it's
much more akin to like using your credit card that
you know, you just you say, hey, I want to
spend this much. It transfers this much from one place
to another place the.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Right, So to me, it kind of it smacks of
like collecting receipt numbers.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
With me. I mean, you're not wrong.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Okay, I'm just trying to crack my point of view towards.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I kind of like that analogy. I'm gonna use it, okay.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Jack Young wonders if eBay has changed your coin policy,
or if there is some other reasons. Waterfits are rampant
and removal of counterfeits is getting more and more difficult
to accomplish. In this week's Battle from the dark Side.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Well, you know what's funny. I was helping him out
with the with this research, and uh, we picked one
really really bad counterfeit and a whole bunch of us
reported it, like a lot of us, And yeah, I
was one of them. I thought they never pulled it down.
It's still up. So I wonder they've just kind of
given up on trying to enforce the fact that counterfeits
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are out there and on their site, because they definitely are,
and it has been getting worse, no doubt about it,
no out is.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I think that initially their their intention was to be
you know, good about it and to do their due diligence,
and then it got pointed out to them exactly how
much work that is and how much bandpower that requires.
And honestly, they were really good with allowing collectors to
report it because that's your staff and it's free.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Yeah. Oh so, Paula says, the seller took it down good.
I hope so. But there are hundreds and hundreds and
maybe thousands of others are listed currently and they're not
taking them down, and obviously eBay is not taking them
down because they don't care. They they just don't. They
just don't care. I think they would. They would much
rather just risk the fact that they're selling things that
(14:47):
are illegal and uh, you know, make their money from that, rather.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Than actual tarnish their reputation and it's going to hurt
their business.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Well. But but the problem is it's everywhere whatnot. There's
tons of fakes, you know, all these other sales sites,
they're fakes everywhere. So, I mean, it's just what we've
been fighting for years and now it's coming home to roost.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yes, And I guess my point is that you know,
with every new platform that comes up, there is fresh
hope that you know, well, this one's not going to
fall victim to that, and they always do. And I'm
just saying that what we're seeing maybe the beginning.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Of the end. The thing is, they need the experts,
They need the people involved that can help them identify
because obviously, as a econ commerce company, they don't have
the ability to determine what's faking what's not. They actually
need the help of experts in that particular field and
lots of other particular fields to identify these fakes. And
(15:46):
they just won't do it. They can't do it. Maybe
not so, you know, so in my.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Opinion, it is better to do the best you can
flailing at you know, at a hurricane that it is
to do nothing.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah, I understand. I mean I get it. And it sucks.
It does it sucks. It's no good. But that's where
we're at. So boo boo boo boo, hiss boo oh.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Once again, it is that time of year. Central State's
Numismatic Society is hosting annual convention in Shambury, Illinois.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
So he heard through the twenty sixth I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
I cannot wait too, because look, it's Wednesday, is the
early bird, and you know Dealer Access Thursday is going
to be the main first day of the show.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
We're going to have a meet and greet on Thursday,
right yep, Thursday night at thirty pm. If you're going
to be attending the show and you would like to
come out and hang out with Mike and I and
take a test, Barry's Berry's bringing a test.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I one come down here in a hackle heckle list.
I don't care yep, eight.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Thirty pm in the lobby of the host hotel there,
the Renaissance Hotel. We will just just listen for the
the loud group that's making a lot of noise and
will be the ones it sounds like they're having a
lot of fun. That'll be us All.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Friday, I will be at the show all day and Saturday,
I'll be at the show part of the day. There's
a lot of stuff going on this week though, because
you know, we're doing our meet and greet. Also something
I'm a really big, you know, fan of, is coming up,
and so that is where we go to. Finally, in
the news, the new Numismatic Portal is going to have
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his twenty twenty five symposium during Central States. So it's
all going to be ether fed through a room in
Central States in that in that hotel, or it will
be done in that room. So Lenn Augsburger and Lenna
Spurrier invite you to come down and actually watch the
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people give these talks. So on Thursday, our very owned
rust Bega we'll be giving a talk. Russell and uh
I'm going to be doing something on Saturday after while
Matt's on his way home.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
We could close out the symposium. They make us the
last ones where the the closure of the show, and
by that time, Matt is ready to go home. He's
been in Chicago for almost a week.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I don't play, so it's like, you got a family,
you want to get back to him.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
That's that's perfectly acceptable. But but Mike does a great job.
Mike does a wonderful job of it.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I liked I could just get up there and pontificate
about anything I want. And uh, it's kind of cool.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
They they they archive.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
These things, you know, forever, so if you want to
go back and look, now, this year, there is kind
of a there's there's kind of a uh a team
effort going on because there's a lot of us that
are out there trying to combat all this information. And
that is going to be the theme of my talk
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this year. So I'm gonna be talking about podcasting and
good places you can go to get information, and I'm
gonna have some fun with some of the bad stuff
because it's it's there and it's easy, and I'm going
to and I together my deck for it. And I
will tell you that there's a person's picture that's in
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this a lot.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Oh, I bet I know exactly who you're talking about,
which is the funny part. Yeah, oh boy, so that's
gonna be fun.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
And so the new numis Medics Symposium. If you can't
make it to Central States, you can still watch the
entire symposium. It's all three days Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
And live all out to the world.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, so I believe in this article.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
There's a link.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
If you can't find a link, just all you have
to do is literally googled Newman Numismatic.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Portal and yes, nnpsymposium dot org is the website. If
you need to get to it. That's how you get it.
You have a hard time spelling symposium, just an NP.
All you have to do is google that and it
should be like the first result. Nice.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
And that was the news. And the news is tonight
was brought to us by risk Watches, the old fashioned kind,
you know, wind it up, tells time, maybe the day
and date. If you're extra fancy, we're not going away.
You still need us Riskwatch.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Richie's got something cool he wants to talk about. Yep,
so he says, I think the two thousand P and
D second we have VIP dollar strikes are newsworthy. There
were two of the D coins one hundred and twenty
mintage that finally came to the market after twenty five years. Yeah,
these are cool. These just popped up. We're going to
have a fun little story about a fun look that
(21:04):
leads into one of our announces as well. Go ahead
and go ahead, go ahead, May Nights. I'll just give
the date. You can say, what's going on May nights?
You guys are going to want to come hang out
with us? That is a.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
No.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
That is a Friday night, because well then that's not
May Night's friend. May Nights is a Friday night.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Hold on a second, let me look at something really quick.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Check your email, Check your email. Anyways, we got a fun,
fun hangout playing with you guys with a special special
guest who will be here for the entire hangout to talk,
hang out, answer questions. Well, and that special guest. I'll
let you guys go as for now.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I would expect it to because we talked about it Saturday.
It's gonna be a live show and she knows that
we do our show on Saturdays.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
So ready, ready to.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
The bottle for the second coin commented on the short
that I did with James segal A bought these vip
coins and I will tell you after having spoken with
her a little bit, she's got some opinions on this stuff.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
And you know, the funny thing is, I believe in
her response, she said she had some of these that
she threw.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Her from the Philadelphia Mint and she was unaware of
the ones from the Denver Mint. So she was the
one that actually pushed the button to strike them at Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Hmm. Well there you go.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
And then you know, all kinds of really cool things.
When I got a chance to just you know, talk
to her for a couple of minutes, and it's like
super person, sweetheart, absolute sweetheart.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I was thinking about that, how many living models are
there of people that are on coinage. I can't think
of another one. They haven't used.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
They have used in allegory since the thirties, and that's
kind of a problem. Well that's you know, I mean,
like the everybody else has been dead people.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Right, so this has got to be like the only
living person who's depicted depicted in a way on a
coin You know, you have the inspiration that they're very famous.
One is the inspiration for the Peace Hour and the
Morgan Hour. You know, these are very famous people.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Yeah, so she is going to come on and she
is going to spend an entire hour hanging out with us.
We're just going to make it the Randy Teton Hour
and let her shine and uh just you know, have
some fun to talk to her and so have your.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Questions ready if you you know, you ever have any questions.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
She I will tell you this that she wanted to
do it live so that she can interact with everybody
that I respect it.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I think that's really cool. Well you got it, because
here we are. So that's that announcement number one, big
announcement May ninth slash tenth.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Be on the lookout for more on our socials. We
will bring that you guys. Announcement number two. You want
to go with this one? Oh, go ahead, you're you're
doing great well. Thanks.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
If you go to our Facebook page and go to
our private group, Friends of the Coin Show, you will
find a new toy for you to play with, something
that we are debuting there and we're hoping to take
over the world with.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Yeah, we have been playing with a new feature that
is from Meta itself, but it's it's an AI bot
that allows us to help you guys with coins. It's
called we're calling it coin bot. I think that's a
great name. But it is an AI software that allows
us to give it input on the information that it
(24:50):
gives you. So uh, it will ask us for clarification
if it doesn't know an answer on something. But the
cool part is I've actually been in touch with the
developers and I am hoping that I will be able
to help them really focus this thing for numismatics and
we can actually have something that gives out true, honest,
good accurate information in an automated format rather than some
(25:13):
of these AI scanning apps that give out terrible information.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
So it work again.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Yeah, the back end of it allows me to tell
it what to do and what not to do. Uh,
And it also allows me to review some of the
answers before it sends them.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
And we've been playing around with it today trying to
trip it off.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
So that's kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
I get really odd stuff out of it, and so
I would invite you.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
We do.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
There's some sort of a delay in between the too
of us, but I would invite you to go into
the group Friends of a Coinshell you as soon as
you go there, one of the first posts you'll see
is meat coinbot, and since it's meta's bought, we can't
really break it. So I would tell you guys, have that,
go it up, go have fun with it, ask it
anything you can. This is the beta testing for something
(26:05):
that hopefully will be, you know, something we can actually
rely on in the future.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Yeah. Policy actually turned off the air her group and
I thought about it. That's why we were kind of
playing with it. Because if I can make it a
useful tool that gives out good, honest, accurate information, I'm
going to do that. Uh. And if I can not
get that focus the way that we want it focused,
I'm gonna shut it off. But at this point, it's
allowing me to give it input and it's learning. Uh,
(26:35):
it's learning from the input that I am giving and
formulating correct answers. So yeah, right, politicis I have enough
real people giving bad answers. You know what, that's honestly
the truth. But this imagine if you had input on
every answer that was given. You know, that's kind of
what we're closed loop.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
So you will have an actual nubsmatist that looks at
the question before it's hands. And I have been throwing
absolutely just garbage at it, like like is my eighteen
oh four dollars worth money? You know, it's the stupid
kind of stuff that they're going to get from people
that I want to try and break it with, so.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Right, and you know, I actually I've been really digging
down into it, figuring out where it pulls its information
from where and giving it guidance on what to pull
from it. Very well. Yeah, and that's like I said,
that's why I was in touch with the developers to
maybe get a hold of them and say, hey, you
know these are great. This is this, this is that,
this is really what you want to use for this.
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This info here is bad.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
The giant pipe dream.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Right.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
We don't really expect that this is going to be
like the next answer, but if it works out as
a tool, even for a short time, why.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Not right right? Yep?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah, all right, buddy, Well all right, so we have
Battle Royale. We had, we had we had a really
good educational segment. We are We're pumping on all soldiers,
bud go to our to our friends of the coin
show group. Check out coinbot. Play with coinbot, break it, break.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
It and correct it. If it gives you wrong information,
tell it that it's wrong. Please it's wrong and tell
it the right answer yep. Or tell it to do
a bit more research. I've done that a couple of times.
Tell it say hey, you need to research this more.
You're incorrect, your your research is false, or it's correct.
I'm trying to make learn.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Thank you to Barry, and thank you to Justin, and
thank you to Ronesto and Russ and Leanna and uh
Fuzzy and uh everybody else involved with this show. We
thank them very much for helping us put this together.
We thank you mostlie for listening.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Thank you. This is completely worthless, but we'd still do
We do it anyway.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
All right, my friend, we will talk to you next time.
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Speaker 3 (00:26):
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Speaker 3 (00:50):
As from the meantime, hanging around here.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Because we've got we've got some educational stuff coming today
and we have a couple of announcements on some stuff
that's coming our way as well as a preview of
our trip to the Central State's Numismdic Society Convention.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, I'm so excited for that.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
So all that is coming up, But first, as always,
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Speaker 3 (01:37):
You still need us risk watches. Wait, well what about this?
What about those things?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
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Speaker 3 (02:03):
Well let's take a look at the news.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, so they've done gone and did it. Yes, I'll answer,
I'm so angry. So uh in Director of Ventures Gibson
has been asked to step down.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Boom, big boo.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
She was awesome. She was the best. Uh, she was
the best the directory that we've had in a long time.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Very good, yep, very very good. I thought so too,
very very open, very.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Accessible, personable, transparent personally.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah, I mean just she addressed a lot of the
gripes of the collecting community against the US MINT website
and otherwise. Uh, there's nothing bad I can say about
the lady. She did a great job. Yeah she did.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I mean it's like the if you have a public
face of a giant, you know, model, with you get
that job done, you're really doing something.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yep. Well, sad to see you go, interested to see
who's going to come in next? Uh should be? Yeah,
I have a I have a.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I have a line on who it's going to be.
I think I know who it is too. But and
it's going to be bringing two Yeah. And so since
I'm mad at the US Man, I can I can
talk about something about the US men actually makes me happy.
The US Man has produced and yeah, it's make this
(03:32):
does make me happy. Last episode we talked about the
presidential guidance to eliminate set production and very little fanfare.
They basically ignored him. So the United States produced just
over one point eight eight billion coins in the first
three months of this year.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
That's a ton.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, And the quote guidance from the president came down
at the end of February. So, uh, the at the
time they had made they'd made like three hundred thousand
or five hundred thousand cents so far this year, and
(04:11):
in March they made three hundred thousand or three hundred
million cents.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Yeah, So I mean it, They'll never be rare. There's
one hundreds of millions of them.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
There are now nine hundred million of them that have
been made. They are literally almost a billion examples of them. Well,
at the end of this month's report, and we're only
in April, right, so it's like we know that, Look,
they're disrupting government and they're doing a lot of things,
but there are certain things in our government that just
don't turn it on and off. Wod switch admits.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Right, because a lot of that stuff, I mean, a
lot of these, like the production contracts for the planchets,
have already been done and paid for. I'm sure of it.
They're already there probably most likely. I mean, that stuff
doesn't just appear overnight. It has to you know, go
through a long, lengthy process, which I'm sure, uh, you know,
we're still in the midst of. So that's why they're
(05:07):
still producing these, I'm sure, you know. Give it. Let's
look at it again in like July and we'll see
what we're talking about. But right now I can it
doesn't surprise me a bit that they're still making those coins.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
And nichols just as bad, you know, And there's seventy
four million of them, but nowhere near as many A cents,
And look, the Fed keeps ordering them.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
They're going to still make them, right yep, I think
so too.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
It is still early in the year, so not many
Mint products are available yet, but the staples continue to
march on.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
With leaders being the new twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Proof sets Proof Silver Eagles and the five dollars or
one proof Gold Eagles.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Just got a picture up of the proof set here
that the number one cellar at the Mint.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
They got the pictures right this year so that you.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Know, yeah, they didn't have to send out the the
corrected boxes.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yes, your twenty twenty five proof set is your number
one sellar Proof Silver Eagle, number two side. This is
subscription stuff that's driving it. And you know people are
still getting in the new Mint medals. I haven't seen
the Marine Corps dollar yet, but I'm really impressed with
(06:22):
the relief they're doing on those medals. So they've all
looked really weird.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Went in here. Did you see this? They're still selling
the twenty twenty one American Innovation Dollars set. There's alost
four hundred and nineteen of them this week.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
It's because they're already made and they're never going to melt. Well,
those things are going to make it all the way
until garage sale time.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I'm just it's just amazing to me that they sold
almost four hundred and twenty of them this week. It's
not probably at the Mint.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Maybe, I don't know, say, i'd have to see what
the states were for that that for that year. Where's
my computer?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
So slow?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
The Michigan Innovation Dollars showed a very strong debut, with
almost a million coins sold in the first couple of weeks. Now,
looking at this, I like this coin.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah. I like how it translated from the line drawings
we saw to the actual struck design. It looks pretty nice. Yeah,
it's like it held up.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
This is definitely an assembly line production line is you know,
that's a truly Michigan innovation. That's Henry Ford. And you
know they managed to put this on there tell the
story without completely cluttering the coin.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah, yeah, I agree. I think that's exactly right. Always
a plus. Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
An Well, okay, yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I'm just getting his pop up ads out of here.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Oh yeah, they're horrible. A fifty dollars Augustus hut Us
Assay Office slug will be offered by Stax Bowers next month.
So this is a you know, the famous fifty dollars
octagonal slug. Have you ever had one of these in
your hand? I have seen one. I think I have
had one.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
It was in a slab. They're super chunky. They contain
like two and a half ounces of gold. They're just
like you get one of those slabs and you're like,
oh my gosh, it things ridiculous. It's like a little brick.
They're crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, it's like the heaviest coin you've ever had in
your hand.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Correct, Yep, yep. These are really awesome. Like I said,
if you've never gotten to see one, if you're ever
at a show and a dealer happens to have one
and they're a nice person that pick it up, let's
take a look at it close. They're super duper cool.
The design on the reverse that concentric lines is just
really really neat to look at and unlike anything you've
(08:53):
ever seen on a coin before. So I think they're neat.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, we got to stop using this because these these
pop ups are brutal at FDR Metal from his fourth
and last inauguration will also be offered tax Powers, but
later this year in their global showcase auction, it looks
kind of worried. Well, that's the thing. So this is
last inauguration, So this is you know, I mean really
just months before he died.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yeah, well there you go. That makes sense.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Kind of haggard from the war. I mean, look, you
think about the politics of today and how much they
beat on you know, Trump and Biden about how old
they were.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
This guy is even that old. And you know, yes,
that's a very good point. Yeah. Uh, let's see.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
America's Hat has released circulating commemory of one dollar coin
celebrating the one hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the Supreme
Court of Canada.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Do we're not get a picture of what the hell?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Show us the coin?
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Good job of Canada. I want to see the coin. No,
they give you a really nice picture of all the
people that I mean, these are what the rock and
then the chief Justices and Supreme Courts. I mean that's cool,
but where's the coin? Man?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Well, I think that would be a kind of important
part of the story. But didn't publish it details, you know, whatever.
But for some to publish it correctly, as many of
you know, Whitman has released the twenty twenty six red book.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yes they have. We were there and it was fun.
It was so much fun.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
And for those of you who haven't seen it, go
back to our YouTube channel.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Take a look. There's all kinds of videos.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
From uh from Baltimore from this year and some really
cool interviews. We had a lot of fun with it.
We did the launch of the Red Book. There's it's
truly a different look.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yep, yep. I've got actually ordered mine to be delivered
some time this week. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
So if you have one and you're at Central States
this week, come by the booth, ask Matt to set
his picture. All right, Oh, I canna get out of
it straight out. I know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Uh, let's see.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Numismatic News asked a pole question this week, do you
think collectable crypto currency is here to stay? Well, here's
my thing with it. It's like, are we talking crypto
are we talking about something physical?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Both?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
How do you collect something that's not physical?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
You slap it on a coin with a sticker and
then there you go, that's what these are.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yeah, but that sticker doesn't do anything. It's like you
can crypto and then the sticker points you at what.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
The sticker has, the the secret code you need to
actually redeem the crypto that's on it and move it. So, yeah,
it is a physical coin. Like if you have one
that's underdeemed there's a bitcoin on there.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
So I was always under the impression that the whole
point of pitcoin was that it doesn't exist. It's ethereal
it just you know, it's in the ether.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Well, but it does exist, and that's the problem. It's there.
People use it. I mean a lot of times criminal
organizations use it. That's I mean, the main the main
part person either of it.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
There are coins. It's like when you spend crypto, you're
not swapping coins.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
That's again, yeah, I mean I get it. It's it's
much more akin to like using your credit card that
you know, you just you say, hey, I want to
spend this much. It transfers this much from one place
to another place the.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Right, So to me, it kind of it smacks of
like collecting receipt numbers.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
With me. I mean, you're not wrong.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Okay, I'm just trying to crack my point of view towards.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I kind of like that analogy. I'm gonna use it, okay.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Jack Young wonders if eBay has changed your coin policy,
or if there is some other reasons. Waterfits are rampant
and removal of counterfeits is getting more and more difficult
to accomplish. In this week's Battle from the dark Side.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Well, you know what's funny. I was helping him out
with the with this research, and uh, we picked one
really really bad counterfeit and a whole bunch of us
reported it, like a lot of us, And yeah, I
was one of them. I thought they never pulled it down.
It's still up. So I wonder they've just kind of
given up on trying to enforce the fact that counterfeits
(13:53):
are out there and on their site, because they definitely are,
and it has been getting worse, no doubt about it,
no out is.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I think that initially their their intention was to be
you know, good about it and to do their due diligence,
and then it got pointed out to them exactly how
much work that is and how much bandpower that requires.
And honestly, they were really good with allowing collectors to
report it because that's your staff and it's free.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Yeah. Oh so, Paula says, the seller took it down good.
I hope so. But there are hundreds and hundreds and
maybe thousands of others are listed currently and they're not
taking them down, and obviously eBay is not taking them
down because they don't care. They they just don't. They
just don't care. I think they would. They would much
rather just risk the fact that they're selling things that
(14:47):
are illegal and uh, you know, make their money from that, rather.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Than actual tarnish their reputation and it's going to hurt
their business.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Well. But but the problem is it's everywhere whatnot. There's
tons of fakes, you know, all these other sales sites,
they're fakes everywhere. So, I mean, it's just what we've
been fighting for years and now it's coming home to roost.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yes, And I guess my point is that you know,
with every new platform that comes up, there is fresh
hope that you know, well, this one's not going to
fall victim to that, and they always do. And I'm
just saying that what we're seeing maybe the beginning.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Of the end. The thing is, they need the experts,
They need the people involved that can help them identify
because obviously, as a econ commerce company, they don't have
the ability to determine what's faking what's not. They actually
need the help of experts in that particular field and
lots of other particular fields to identify these fakes. And
(15:46):
they just won't do it. They can't do it. Maybe
not so, you know, so in my.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Opinion, it is better to do the best you can
flailing at you know, at a hurricane that it is
to do nothing.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah, I understand. I mean I get it. And it sucks.
It does it sucks. It's no good. But that's where
we're at. So boo boo boo boo, hiss boo oh.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Once again, it is that time of year. Central State's
Numismatic Society is hosting annual convention in Shambury, Illinois.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
So he heard through the twenty sixth I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
I cannot wait too, because look, it's Wednesday, is the
early bird, and you know Dealer Access Thursday is going
to be the main first day of the show.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
We're going to have a meet and greet on Thursday,
right yep, Thursday night at thirty pm. If you're going
to be attending the show and you would like to
come out and hang out with Mike and I and
take a test, Barry's Berry's bringing a test.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I one come down here in a hackle heckle list.
I don't care yep, eight.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Thirty pm in the lobby of the host hotel there,
the Renaissance Hotel. We will just just listen for the
the loud group that's making a lot of noise and
will be the ones it sounds like they're having a
lot of fun. That'll be us All.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Friday, I will be at the show all day and Saturday,
I'll be at the show part of the day. There's
a lot of stuff going on this week though, because
you know, we're doing our meet and greet. Also something
I'm a really big, you know, fan of, is coming up,
and so that is where we go to. Finally, in
the news, the new Numismatic Portal is going to have
(17:33):
his twenty twenty five symposium during Central States. So it's
all going to be ether fed through a room in
Central States in that in that hotel, or it will
be done in that room. So Lenn Augsburger and Lenna
Spurrier invite you to come down and actually watch the
(17:55):
people give these talks. So on Thursday, our very owned
rust Bega we'll be giving a talk. Russell and uh
I'm going to be doing something on Saturday after while
Matt's on his way home.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
We could close out the symposium. They make us the
last ones where the the closure of the show, and
by that time, Matt is ready to go home. He's
been in Chicago for almost a week.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I don't play, so it's like, you got a family,
you want to get back to him.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
That's that's perfectly acceptable. But but Mike does a great job.
Mike does a wonderful job of it.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I liked I could just get up there and pontificate
about anything I want. And uh, it's kind of cool.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
They they they archive.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
These things, you know, forever, so if you want to
go back and look, now, this year, there is kind
of a there's there's kind of a uh a team
effort going on because there's a lot of us that
are out there trying to combat all this information. And
that is going to be the theme of my talk
(19:07):
this year. So I'm gonna be talking about podcasting and
good places you can go to get information, and I'm
gonna have some fun with some of the bad stuff
because it's it's there and it's easy, and I'm going
to and I together my deck for it. And I
will tell you that there's a person's picture that's in
(19:28):
this a lot.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Oh, I bet I know exactly who you're talking about,
which is the funny part. Yeah, oh boy, so that's
gonna be fun.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
And so the new numis Medics Symposium. If you can't
make it to Central States, you can still watch the
entire symposium. It's all three days Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
And live all out to the world.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, so I believe in this article.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
There's a link.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
If you can't find a link, just all you have
to do is literally googled Newman Numismatic.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Portal and yes, nnpsymposium dot org is the website. If
you need to get to it. That's how you get it.
You have a hard time spelling symposium, just an NP.
All you have to do is google that and it
should be like the first result. Nice.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
And that was the news. And the news is tonight
was brought to us by risk Watches, the old fashioned kind,
you know, wind it up, tells time, maybe the day
and date. If you're extra fancy, we're not going away.
You still need us Riskwatch.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Richie's got something cool he wants to talk about. Yep,
so he says, I think the two thousand P and
D second we have VIP dollar strikes are newsworthy. There
were two of the D coins one hundred and twenty
mintage that finally came to the market after twenty five years. Yeah,
these are cool. These just popped up. We're going to
have a fun little story about a fun look that
(21:04):
leads into one of our announces as well. Go ahead
and go ahead, go ahead, May Nights. I'll just give
the date. You can say, what's going on May nights?
You guys are going to want to come hang out
with us? That is a.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
No.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
That is a Friday night, because well then that's not
May Night's friend. May Nights is a Friday night.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Hold on a second, let me look at something really quick.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Check your email, Check your email. Anyways, we got a fun,
fun hangout playing with you guys with a special special
guest who will be here for the entire hangout to talk,
hang out, answer questions. Well, and that special guest. I'll
let you guys go as for now.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I would expect it to because we talked about it Saturday.
It's gonna be a live show and she knows that
we do our show on Saturdays.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
So ready, ready to.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
The bottle for the second coin commented on the short
that I did with James segal A bought these vip
coins and I will tell you after having spoken with
her a little bit, she's got some opinions on this stuff.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
And you know, the funny thing is, I believe in
her response, she said she had some of these that
she threw.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Her from the Philadelphia Mint and she was unaware of
the ones from the Denver Mint. So she was the
one that actually pushed the button to strike them at Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Hmm. Well there you go.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
And then you know, all kinds of really cool things.
When I got a chance to just you know, talk
to her for a couple of minutes, and it's like
super person, sweetheart, absolute sweetheart.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I was thinking about that, how many living models are
there of people that are on coinage. I can't think
of another one. They haven't used.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
They have used in allegory since the thirties, and that's
kind of a problem. Well that's you know, I mean,
like the everybody else has been dead people.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Right, so this has got to be like the only
living person who's depicted depicted in a way on a
coin You know, you have the inspiration that they're very famous.
One is the inspiration for the Peace Hour and the
Morgan Hour. You know, these are very famous people.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Yeah, so she is going to come on and she
is going to spend an entire hour hanging out with us.
We're just going to make it the Randy Teton Hour
and let her shine and uh just you know, have
some fun to talk to her and so have your.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Questions ready if you you know, you ever have any questions.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
She I will tell you this that she wanted to
do it live so that she can interact with everybody
that I respect it.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I think that's really cool. Well you got it, because
here we are. So that's that announcement number one, big
announcement May ninth slash tenth.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Be on the lookout for more on our socials. We
will bring that you guys. Announcement number two. You want
to go with this one? Oh, go ahead, you're you're
doing great well. Thanks.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
If you go to our Facebook page and go to
our private group, Friends of the Coin Show, you will
find a new toy for you to play with, something
that we are debuting there and we're hoping to take
over the world with.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Yeah, we have been playing with a new feature that
is from Meta itself, but it's it's an AI bot
that allows us to help you guys with coins. It's
called we're calling it coin bot. I think that's a
great name. But it is an AI software that allows
us to give it input on the information that it
(24:50):
gives you. So uh, it will ask us for clarification
if it doesn't know an answer on something. But the
cool part is I've actually been in touch with the
developers and I am hoping that I will be able
to help them really focus this thing for numismatics and
we can actually have something that gives out true, honest,
good accurate information in an automated format rather than some
(25:13):
of these AI scanning apps that give out terrible information.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
So it work again.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Yeah, the back end of it allows me to tell
it what to do and what not to do. Uh,
And it also allows me to review some of the
answers before it sends them.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
And we've been playing around with it today trying to
trip it off.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
So that's kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
I get really odd stuff out of it, and so
I would invite you.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
We do.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
There's some sort of a delay in between the too
of us, but I would invite you to go into
the group Friends of a Coinshell you as soon as
you go there, one of the first posts you'll see
is meat coinbot, and since it's meta's bought, we can't
really break it. So I would tell you guys, have that,
go it up, go have fun with it, ask it
anything you can. This is the beta testing for something
(26:05):
that hopefully will be, you know, something we can actually
rely on in the future.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Yeah. Policy actually turned off the air her group and
I thought about it. That's why we were kind of
playing with it. Because if I can make it a
useful tool that gives out good, honest, accurate information, I'm
going to do that. Uh. And if I can not
get that focus the way that we want it focused,
I'm gonna shut it off. But at this point, it's
allowing me to give it input and it's learning. Uh,
(26:35):
it's learning from the input that I am giving and
formulating correct answers. So yeah, right, politicis I have enough
real people giving bad answers. You know what, that's honestly
the truth. But this imagine if you had input on
every answer that was given. You know, that's kind of
what we're closed loop.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
So you will have an actual nubsmatist that looks at
the question before it's hands. And I have been throwing
absolutely just garbage at it, like like is my eighteen
oh four dollars worth money? You know, it's the stupid
kind of stuff that they're going to get from people
that I want to try and break it with, so.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Right, and you know, I actually I've been really digging
down into it, figuring out where it pulls its information
from where and giving it guidance on what to pull
from it. Very well. Yeah, and that's like I said,
that's why I was in touch with the developers to
maybe get a hold of them and say, hey, you
know these are great. This is this, this is that,
this is really what you want to use for this.
(27:35):
This info here is bad.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
The giant pipe dream.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Right.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
We don't really expect that this is going to be
like the next answer, but if it works out as
a tool, even for a short time, why.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Not right right? Yep?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah, all right, buddy, Well all right, so we have
Battle Royale. We had, we had we had a really
good educational segment. We are We're pumping on all soldiers,
bud go to our to our friends of the coin
show group. Check out coinbot. Play with coinbot, break it, break.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
It and correct it. If it gives you wrong information,
tell it that it's wrong. Please it's wrong and tell
it the right answer yep. Or tell it to do
a bit more research. I've done that a couple of times.
Tell it say hey, you need to research this more.
You're incorrect, your your research is false, or it's correct.
I'm trying to make learn.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Thank you to Barry, and thank you to Justin, and
thank you to Ronesto and Russ and Leanna and uh
Fuzzy and uh everybody else involved with this show. We
thank them very much for helping us put this together.
We thank you mostlie for listening.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Thank you. This is completely worthless, but we'd still do
We do it anyway.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
All right, my friend, we will talk to you next time.
Episode two forty six of the coin Show podcast be
their b square.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Hi, Remy, You've.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
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