The Coin Show Podcast Episode 247

The #1 podcast in coin collecting returns with Episode 247. In this installment, Mike and Matt discuss the latest developments in the world of numismatics, Mike tells us about what he is reading, we take some listener questions, and share some of the most interesting items that our listeners have added to their collections. Tune in and enjoy the conversation.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the Coin Show podcast, the show about coins
and coin collecting, and not just any show. This is
the number one coin collecting podcast going ten years strong.
Here's Matt Dinger and Mike Notleman on the Coin Show Podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
It is episode two.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Forty seven of the Coin Show Podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
I'm Bike and I'm Matt and on tonight's show, Man,
we got a packed one for you. We are going
to see.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
What Mike is reading, all right, yes, and we're going
to return in summertime. It's time for books. What's Mike reading.
We're going to find out.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
We are also going to take a look at your
Coolest Things.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
One of my favorite things of all time, one of
my favorite show, one of the favorite.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Things that we do because you guys get to bring
your stuff and spice up our show. Yes, but first
before all that, the news. So Matt, I want to

(01:13):
tell you that, you know, finding a summer sponsor for
the news spin a little tough.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
So what did tonight was?

Speaker 3 (01:20):
I found two and they're going to take half and
half of the news. So the first half of the news,
it's sugary drinks, not really thirst quenching.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
But we're still your go to sugar.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
The second half is brought to you by adult onset diabetes.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Oh that was that execution, sir, was excellent, excellent. Give
me just a second here, let me get myself set
and ready, here we go.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
You ready, Yes, a precious metals dealer has been sentenced
to sixty five years in prison.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Good.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yes, absolutely got his name right there in big bold letters,
Robert Higgins got sixty five years for defrauding investors' seventy
six million dollars in gold silvering coins.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
And which for this guy, this is a life sentence
because he's sixty nine years old. So well, even if
he does halftime served, that puts him at one hundred. Yeah,
there's there's no good behavior time in federal prison anyway.
So there you go. Yeah, no, not gonna happen. I
don't think. Yeah, yeah this was I remember when they

(02:40):
rated this guy. So you know, some people were like,
oh man, what's going on? And it always had there
always had been rumblings in the industry, you know, the
kind of the the bar talk at night or like
you know, you hear about oh this guy's doing this
and this guy's doing that, and everybody always wondered how
this guy made his money, and.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Well, now you know he stole it. Okah, that's a
I forget what rapper it is. In case you didn't know,
now you.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Know that would be if you don't know. Now you
know that you know the id.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
So the US Mint has produced six hundred and fifty
seven almost six hundred and fifty eight million coins in May,
and nearly a third of them were sense.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
They show the iw Well's quarter, which is funny because
I had a guy come in the shop the other
day and just hand me one and look at me.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
I have to say that that one looks more like
a token than anything else I've seen.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
He just handed to me and was like this. I
was like, yeah, that's a cool coin. They're just they
just came out. Yeah. Oh yeah, he had no idea
what it was. But you said that so they made sense?

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yes, so the let's see, so they struck seven six
hundred and fifty seven point nine five million coins for circulation.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Right see so uh cent production that's got to be
down here towards the bottom. Oh, let me keep scrolling.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Sorry, two hundred and five million made in May.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Okay, here we go to see recuiting my productions Lincoln
sent got it. I'm still not there yet.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
It's two hundred and five million were made in May,
and that brings the year to date twenty twenty five
to one point two sixty five billion cents. That is
still July.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yeah, that's kind of crazy.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Look, I'm telling you they're making sense next year too.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
I I I give up. I give up on just
trying to figure anything out with the way the world
works anymore. I'm just gonna take my head back in
my shell and worry about things that that affect me
because you know.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Look, not everything and particularly in our government works.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Smooth question question question, Why do we have a negative?
Do they melt three point two million Native American dollars?
There's a negative on the Native American one dollar coins?
Uh negative? Negative negative. It's probably an adjustment. Okay, I'm

(05:34):
just curious because or maybe a TYPEO could be a
typo in the story. But there are three negatives across
that board. So yeah, no, that's what it says. Quarter mintages. Yeah, anyway,
next story.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
So they're making a big deal out of this twenty
twenty six Mercury din collector set, right. Yeah, And here's
my question. It's like weren't they paying attention the first time.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
I mean they bring still bring a little premium, but yeah,
not really. They're going to make it the same mistake,
and they're going to make it twenty four carrot instead
of putting it on a you know what, a ten
thousands eagle blank. Yeah, and it'll be about the correct
size that, you know, as Buffalo is so popular and
continues to be so popular, and so for such a

(06:31):
premium because it's the same size. Well, I think them
redoing this point anyways. It's kind of like microwave dinner,
you know, like our leftovers. It's like microwaving leftovers. And
let's just put this point out again and slap appreiation
years ago. Yeah, we've got that already, reason why we're
doing it again. Let's let's do something else. Let's get

(06:52):
a you know, like a liberty seated dime design or something.
Come on, come on, the metal. The metal's cool. Yeah,
but no, I have absolutely no desire to buy this,
and I will be willing to pat you that it.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Generally gets the thumbs down from the market. I bet
it doesn't even sell from the men.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Oh, I mean they sell some, but I doubt that
they'll sell out.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
Right, they won't sell like they would have had it
not been had it been the first time.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Well, and mostly I don't see anywhere to the measurement.
They could make the plantet thinner and keep it the same.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Size, I don't think so. I think we went through
this last time in twenty sixteen, where if you make
it thin enough, uh to make it dime sized, the
relief on the coin won't be it will be non existent.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Gotcha. Yeah, I'm just thinking that thinking.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
You know, no, it's it's one of those things where
it's like, but that's what.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
You need to do to fix it. Mandates are a
funny thing, friend, especially when you know it's all bureacratic
and they just have to pass a bill or stuff
it in a giant bill, or you know, whatever they do.
These things come along.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
So the United States men has set the prices for
the Superman launch in the Comic Art Coin and Metal program.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Okay, what do we think of this coin?

Speaker 3 (08:27):
I will tell you that it doesn't look as bad
as it could have.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
So okay, so I have a question. It's a bird,
it's a plane. Okay, why is there an airplane in
the back of this coin, that's my question. And why
is there an airport in the back of it? Yeah,
there's an airplane right up in the sky, faster than
a speeding bullet. I mean, I get it. It's a bird,
it's a plane. I get that part. But that's not

(08:54):
the airplane they were speaking of back when Superman first
came around. You know, that's a jetliner. Yeah. Yeah, and
that's like a nineteen thirties or forties pickup truck. Yeah,
and look at the I mean, I just don't get
the jet I don't get the inclusion of the airplane.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
So what would you like to see, like a fucker
d threty one triplane.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Not even an airplane, Maybe just have her staring up
with the sky, or maybe like you know, because you
show I forget their names, but his parents, you could
have had his little birth capsule come screaming in the
atmosphere right there. They could have been looking up at
Superman fallen to Earth from Krypton. You know, like, Okay,
so let me ask you this. No, no, you know
what we're gonna do, guys, We're gonna put a jetliner

(09:35):
on there. That's what we're gonna do. That's it. That
ruins a coin for me. Let me ask you, this
literally smokes a coin for me. The Superman may belief
that they made. Yeah, did you like that one? I
don't remember. That coin, to be quite honest.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
With you, basically just has the S symbol from his
chest on it. On one side, Okay, I would what
I would expect from the US MID And yet we
have the supermanside.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
We have a design. This really artistic and really nice.
The Superman side is pretty cool. Like, don't get me wrong,
I kind of like that. You see motion, you see strength.
There's no plane on that side, just for jetliner. You
almost had me. You almost had me man, I would

(10:23):
have bought that if you hadn't put an airplane on it.
Write that one down just saying you had me, then
you lost me. One side of the coin. I absolutely love.
The other side of the coin hot Stinky duty.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
So with that, the United States Men has opened subscription
programs for these and so, you know, I think with
the popularity of some of these coins, the potential popularity
of this, uh the first year is going to include
Batman and Wonder Woman as well. The subscriptions the way

(10:59):
to go because you don't have to worry about wait
lists or or waiting rooms or any of that stuff.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
At least they picked the right three to go with
right off the bat I mean, Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman,
there you go. I mean it could have been like
like Spider Man gets an honorable mansion. But no, I'm
just glad they didn't do like Batman, Superman and like
dark Winged Duck or something like you know something, yeah,

(11:27):
Howard de duck Er, you know something like that.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
So I don't know, Like I said, I really like
the design from an art perspective, I just think it's
very it's nice, it's esthetically pleasing, and he's staring through
your soul.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
He is just like well the X ray envision. He
can't help it, that's right. So the Mint has also.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Decided, for god knows what reason, to make twenty twenty
five Morgan a peace dollars, and they're now calling it
the Morena and Peace Tribute.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
You know, they're they're just just because they can.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
They're obnoxious.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
You don't like them.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Here's the thing. In twenty twenty one, I understood it, sure,
when you couldn't make them. In twenty two, I think
it kind of tied their hands and said, okay, what
do you do? You can end the program, quit a winner.
Everybody was happy walk away, But then you don't see
he doesn't ever do that. No, so they're gonna whip

(12:34):
that horse and run it down the stretch until it
turns into dog food.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
They are just gonna go for it.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
And this coin, the Peace dollar, if you want to
make Peace dollars until twenty eight and then stop until
thirty four.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
I don't know. We're having a twenty thirty one piece dollar,
you know that's coming, but a Morgan dollar has no.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Context in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
I agree, But again, stopping that programer winner means that
they wouldn't sell nearly as many coins, and they could
make a reverse proof and furnished in a special finish
and a reverse in circulated enhanced, you know, burnished thing.
You know, like I'll tell you what the mint is. Lucky.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
They don't accept returns on this stuff because I know
a budget people.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
That are buried in them. Well that's the thing that's
that's the problem. But yeah, I mean, I agree with you,
and I love this story. It's a banner day for
silver collectors. Aaron Darren don't lie to me, Darren, don't lie.
Don't be on me and tell me it's raining, buddy.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Yeah, because today marks the release of the twenty twenty
five on circulated Morgan Dollar for what ninety bucks?

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Now, man, this first sentence is really it's a banner
day for silver coin collectors. Is the United States Mint
unveils two highly anticipated tributes to an American iconic American coinage. No,
that was twenty twenty one, friend, we're twenty twenty five. Now,
this is just like again.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Ninety dollars of pop. So twenty twenty five marks the
twenty fifth anniversary. Is the second Juwig Golden Dollar, Okay,
And so they have actually gotten legislation to do it
this time, and they are going to strike some of
these on half ounce gold planches.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
I mean, the very first ones they struck. We're in
gold to end up in the Space Shuttle yep. So
I mean they're kind of going full circle. Maybe that
means that they're going to totally end that U versus
the coin.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
But those weren't those weren't legal.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
No, their presentation pieces, they were specimens, they were not coinage,
they were not mine. End.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
I will note that this twenty twenty five that we're
looking at is a Seconduwea dollar, not a Native American dollar.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Correct.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yeah, yeah, this is this back from the original as
the original reverse. So I really really like the idea
of this coin. It just it makes me feel yucky
about the ones that they made in ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Oh. I just had the worst realization of my entire
life staring at this thing right here in my face,
Because for twenty five years I've been telling people, Oh,
those coins don't have any gold in them, right, guess
what they have gold in them. Now people are gonna
look at these and they're gonna say, oh, I got

(15:34):
some of those in my drawer. Yep, Oh no, oh yeah,
I got a bunch of those. No, I don't know. No,
it's coming, I promibly, but.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Still, and this one is going to be So it's
gonna be struck on a twenty four carrot blank with,
which makes it point zero two inches larger, So it's
almost gonna be.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Identical size point zero two. Oh okay, yeah, two inches, gotcha.
That ain't a whole lot two one hundreds is. It
will be barely detectable if anything. Are they going to
mark them on the edge with a purity because there's
no there's no markings here either. That's my other point.
These look just like the coins, like especially the reverse

(16:29):
that's the same the obverse. I mean, obviously you have
the date difference. You can tell there.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
But it's got the Mint mark, It's got everything that
it must carry by law, so.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
It does. But maybe again, we I don't see any
purity markings or marks.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
I would think that they're going to have to mark
the edge just to you know, save people's sanity. But
once again, I really don't know if I want to
depend on the US men.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
I don't want to depend on common sense, but we're
gonna have to use that too. So boy, a lot
more Mint news. The twenty twenty five mind sets are
gonna be available suit. So this one is the last
one with the women on quarters. Okay, next year they're

(17:22):
going to have different designs. I don't know what they're
gonna do. Next year. They're gonna make sets with more
junking them, and it might be stuff that you like,
or it might be stuff that we're stuck with for
the next ten years. Nobody knows.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
Some of the stuff that I've seen has been pretty decent, right,
the the mock up for the privy mark on the
penny okay, unimpressive, yawner, And yet they're continuing to make them,
even though it makes no sense to make them just
so that they can produce them next year.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Man.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
This is uncirculated mid sets. This is the old set
that I look forward to every year.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
You know, I just again, I just decided something in
my head. This is a night of realizations for me.
Apparently God. I decided that, you know what, I gave
them ment a chance to reel me into some modern stuff.
You know, they did a decent, halfway decent job with
the twenty twenty one dollars. But you know what, I
am back to one hating everything that the US men does.

(18:27):
It's official. I'm back to it. I tried, I gave
it a chance. I gave it a chance. I hate
modern coins. I hate them. I'm back. I'm back. That's back.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
For the Bank of England is asking for input on
the theme for its next bank notes. Now here think
this through, right, You've got a new king who is
really not all that popular, and people really wanted to
see it be King and so instead of plastering his

(19:00):
face all over the money, he's coming up and saying,
let's design it together, let's do something nice. And you know,
I think I think are points with the English public.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
I think the last time somebody did that, they ended
up with a boat named body mcboat face, if I remember, right,
trying to crowdsource things from people. So who knows.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Yeah, So they are going to choose between the potential
themes of like notable historical figures, architecture and landmarks, culture,
arts and sport, noteworthy events in history, innovation in nature.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Right here it is right here it is. The public
can also suggest other themes for the bank to consider.
There it is, we're gonna get star Wars or something.
But no, I mean I wish that our government was
that open to redesigning things. The public very very very
very often doesn't get any say in what goes on

(20:04):
the circulating coinage. This is circulating money. But that's because
of the inertia of our government. Yeah. Yeah, see Bradley says, right,
the pub crawl bills, Yeah, like famous British pubs. I
think that would be super popular. I think they would
would do very well and people would love to have
beer money, but you could call it beer money. See
I'm just marketing for these guys right off the bat.

(20:26):
But you got to remember there's nobody listening anymore. But yeah,
I think that that's interesting that they are going to
just turn to the public and say, all right, guys,
what are we going to do here? If the mint
would the FED would never do that, the BEEP would
never do that. The Mint for circulating coinage. Again, there's

(20:51):
no like just open casting call for what we're going
to put on our money.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Oh but I have to give a lot of credit.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
The the mint designers that we have, the sculptors that
we have worked in there now and oh no, I
have nothing nothing bad to say about the people that
are doing the design these physical designs. Right, it's more
just eye Yeah, it's the bureaucracy behind the design. Well,
we have to have this element and this element and

(21:23):
this element, and we have to include a bird like.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
No, that's why i'd be wells quarter looks like that go.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Away, just all right, you can't gruffy mad tonight apparently.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
Hey, well that's okay, we need that once in a while.
So a unique nineteen seventy eight eyes and hour dollar
has a surfaced. Now here's the problem with this for me.
I don't like coins like this because this is a
seventy eight p struck overstruck on a proof.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
These things happened a lot back in that period, that
like nineteen sixty eight to nineteen seventy eight period. There
was somebody at the Mint who was working on a
coin press in the proof room who just loved to
make stuff. And there are so many of these kinds
of coins out there. The same thing happened at the

(22:21):
Canadian min Actually, I kind of wonder if the person
didn't didn't actually go to the Royal Canadian. Yeah, like
transferred jobs. There's just a lot of this kind of
stuff out there, especially on proof coins from that ten
year period that like I had. I had a Jefferson
Nickel that was a nineteen nine and this happened later too,

(22:43):
but this was a nineteen ninety Jefferson Nickel struck over
in nineteen sixty eight Jefferson Nickel. I own that coin.
But it's just like there's a lot of stuff that
happens at the Mint, and they try to put the
kibosh on as much as they can, but they just
can't they can't control it. Then, especially in that ten
year period there there was a lot of this stuff happening.

(23:04):
So so one.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
Of the things that I think is most interesting about
this is the fact that it was overstruck on a
proof coin means that the relief on that proof coin
was struck up and because of that, it wasn't as
obliterated as it would have been had it been a
business strike coin.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, and that's the cool part about I mean, the
coin itself makes it look cool, but still it's like
it's us.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
It was struck in San Francisco and then it was
struck in Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yeah, that's that's somebody goofing around. I mean, just is
what it is. I wish I couldlts you a bigger picture,
but that's all we got.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
And finally, in the news, PNG membership has reached a
record high. I saw this, well, okay, so I wanted
to I wanted to throw this right at you met
your brand new PNG member, yeapu tell.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Us that you joined the PNG because they finally did
away with the stuffy guy in a suit image that
they've had for many many years. And I think that
that was my like, like I think that so the
P ANDNGA for a long time has been this kind
of like almost like a good old boys club, but

(24:20):
not quite. And I think that they are trying to
get away from that image by kind of you know,
getting some young some young people in, getting some new blood,
in getting some people that wouldn't traditionally, you know, be
a member of that kind of thing, like a guy

(24:41):
like me to come in there and say, oh, okay,
we can do this, I can handle this. Plus you know,
they've had some new fresh ideas as well. They let
you they let you come in for your first year
with a discount, so you can see how you like it,
see what it does for you. And I think that
was pretty cool. Plus again, you know, I know a
lot of the guys that in there, and also for

(25:04):
me as well, there's literally no one within like eighty
miles of us or ninety miles of my store that's
a P and G member, and I'm in a metropolis
of millions of people.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
So the Coin Week story talks about, you know, the
perception that PNG is kind of a you know, it's
it's a few powerful dealers, and so they you know,
brought in sixty new members and that's a lot and
I think that you can't help but change the face

(25:35):
of the PNG by doing that.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
P andng T is the Professional Numismatist Guild. It's it's
just kind of like a well again, and you do
have to go through the same rigorous like they check
your background, they make sure that you have references, they
talk to people, they check you out and make sure
that you are somebody that they want to associate with
that has not changed, which I think is a good thing.

(26:01):
Same a mission, Yeah, same mission a mission. I mean
part of the part of the sign up process was,
you know, you have to sign a piece of paper
that says, hey, these are I'm gonna buy by these
particular set of rules. And it's like, you know, ethical transactions,
agreeing to arbitration, Like there's a lot of stuff in
there that if you are not somebody that's above board

(26:22):
as a dealer, you're not going to do. So that
was part of it too that I kind of liked. Ye,
So I just wanted people to know that the that
the PNG is a.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Good vetting organization and their dealers are top notch.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
So if you.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
If you have an opportunity uh to you know.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
To deal with a PNG dealer, please do so, because
there they are just one of those organizations you're going
to find the absolute top notch of coin dealers. See
Rush joined as well, there's me yes are very own
Rosga and it looks like they pulled in a bunch
of interesting people from from the industry in the last

(27:09):
two years. I mean, if you look at you, Seth
Chandeler of course from Winter, Steven Shook who I know,
he is a wholesale guy. Uh. You know, Peter Craigliap
from sax Bowers, he's there, you know, senior paper money guy. Uh.
Greg Marcus is a wholesale guy. Steven Yaffi. I mean
that's that's point. They do a lot of dollars story craft.

(27:31):
I mean, friend of the show, friend of ours obviously
the stud man Ross Bega, Uh, let's see. I mean,
but it's really interesting and like Bullion Shark, you see
a lot of their advertising. Those guys have joined. Scott Travers,
who have anybody that's been doing this for a long time.
I mean he has books out for years. Mark Brockhard

(27:53):
from Heritage, can you Donn Jr. From the US Coins?
I mean, these are all like Lovers and Shakers. Uh,
Julia and Jason from David Lawrence and John d. Call
from David Lawrence, Ronnie from c AC. I mean that's
a kind of sort of a who's who of you know,
people that are doing things in the industry. Sure with that,

(28:16):
so it's it's just the thing. And then then that's
kind of why I don't really care that I have
to be in a club, but if I can network
through that club or whatever and it it benefits me
in a way, then sure it aligns with my mission,

(28:38):
aligns with how I do business. So yeah, like I
plan to never have to use arbitration because I'm not
as company.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
So that was the news and the news to that
was brought to us. The first half was brought to
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Speaker 2 (28:56):
Your go to. And the second half was brought to
us by adult set on set diabetes. That's funny.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
It's summertime. Yeah, and in summertime a lot of people
like sit.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Out of beach and read. Mh.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
I'd really like to sit on a beach and read. Unfortunately,
Coin Counter most of the time. So one of the
things I am reading and we're gonna we're gonna kind
of do this more regular because I started and that
I kind of really fell off of it. We're gonna
talk about what Mike's reading, and tonight Mike is reading
of the new Red Book series. This is the updated

(29:35):
version of the Red Book series from Whitman is Red Bike.
It is Let's see Washington. Yeah, this one is Washington Quarters.
This is number seven in the series.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
It says like, I think you know they're building, you
know they're building the basically the Encyclopedia Britannica of US
coin Information with these sets, right, I mean, that's a
good autumn.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Yeah, them for doing it. So this this particular there,
it is my notes. So this particular book is three
hundred and seventy four pages, not including the notes. Twenty
four ninety five US thirty five ninety five Canadian, published
by Whitman.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
As a lot of the hobby books are.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
This might be the consummate reference on Washington Quarters as
a whole. Really, one of the things I like about
this is that so Washington Quarters is is kind of
a series where you look at it and you're like,
they're all the same.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Oh, you either love them or you hate them. They're
all in between. Well you hate them, You've made that
clear earlier, but they're not. So it's like there are
three very distinct periods of Washington Quarters. You have the
thirty two to ninety eight, which is, you know, you're
just regular early reverse and the Eagle reverse. You have
the statehood, the territories, and then you have the the

(30:57):
National Parks and the women on quarters. Of What I
like about this book though, is that it's it's really
heavy in mintage numbers and things like that.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
So one of the things that I'm interested in is
the new quarters. Since twenty twelve, they've been making them
in San Francisco for circulation. Their circulation strikes. They're not
they're not proofs. The only way you can get them
is to buy them by their role for a big premium,
but they're there. This has the mintage numbers for those.

(31:34):
This goes into the detail of you know, I mean
you have Let's see, you have a series that's been
producing five different designs for the past twenty five years.
And because they've been doing that, now you have.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
So you got You've.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
Got all the designers, all the different designs, the different
numbers that they that they produced of each of them,
and it's all covered in here. Yeah, so really reliable,
easy to find, easy to read.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
How does it cover It's like some of the early
varieties and stuff. Is there any of that that goes
on in there? Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
So one of the things about this book is if
you look at the thirty four, which is where a
lot of people have problems, it gives you really good
illustrations of the light motto, the medium motto, the heavy motto,
and the double dye.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Huh. Well, as somebody that doesn't necessarily love Washington Quarters,
I think that, you know, that might be something that
gets me involved in that book, just to have as
a reference for the office, is having all the different varieties.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
One of the better pictures is on the opposite page
from that, It's seventy one where they actually show you
the mid mark of nineteen thirty two.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
It hold it up, they won't get mad. Hard to see.
That's okay. Oh, it talks about the phil d of
nineteen thirty two.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
It shows how it sits in a depression.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Yeah. People said that, they say it, but until you
see it, you know, same dealers saying said that. For years.
I was taught that, you know, years ago when I
was learning about them and how it's like, well thirty
two d's they're gonna look fake, but they're actually real
because they're said in a depression. It's like yeah, it's
like and they do.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
It's like, I mean, you're like, wow, is that man
market added?

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah, but that's that's the cool thing about that book.
That looks like they thought of that and they put
that in there as well, So very cool. I like it.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
Yeah, So they cover everything, including the w MIT Quarters,
so it's like, this is your authoritative reference on Washington Quarters.
I like the way they updated it. They did not
do the QR codes in this like they have in
the Red Book. And we'll have to see as they
update more of these books, uh, you know, whether or

(33:49):
not they add more of that stuff. So overall, overall,
I think that it's it's got a really good coverage
of you know, the set as a whole, that it
keeps up with it that if you you know, you're
into learning a lot of stuff about Washington Quarters, just
a really good resource for it.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
If you look behind me, you'll see a lot of
the Bowers you know books, And I think that They're
probably one of the better libraries that you can have
in one of the more special libraries that you can
have for individual individual coins.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
I'm telling you I did not do the QR codes
in this one like they did in the New Red Book.
But we'll just have to see over time what happens
with that.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yeah. I think the Encyclopedia Cointanica is going to be great.
When he gets done.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
I'll tell you what it's going to bust a for
your shelves.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
It is, it is. Okay, let's see. I see some
starred one from Barry, and then I see a few more. Okay,
here we go. Corey Kunkle said, as a Newish collector,
is there any point in collecting modern coins? Bags of
half dollars, et cetera. Mike, we're talking moderns again. Okay,

(35:08):
so is there any point in collecting modern coins? Yes,
bags and a half dollars. No, here's the lesson to be learned.
During the nineteen fifties, people came back from the war
and they started collecting rolls of coins by date and
mid mark. I never understood that.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
They killed their own market, because there's nothing that will
make your coin worth less than another forty nine of
them in the same.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Package that looks exactly the same. Yeah, so that would
be my advice to Corey. That's funny. Let's see what's
next year. Let's see Richard says I have an add
with a double strike through on top of it. Some

(35:54):
shows says it's worthmore. Wait, it's worth some money, and
some people said it's not. Well, it depends on a
few things. It depends on how big the strike through is.
If it's a teeny little strike through, probably not going
to add much value. If it's a nice big strike through,
it can. So it really depends on the severity of
the air, just like anything else. And also it depends

(36:17):
on who you ask. If you ask somebody that totally
hates air coins, they're going to tell you that's nothing
to worry about it. But if you get somebody that
appreciates them, or you know, knows a thing or two
about it, sometimes they just don't know. But it it
can't add value. It just it really depends on the
severity of the air itself and how interesting it is.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
Yeah, more disruptive it is, yeah, I think the better.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Yeah, the cool word is, the more likely it is
to be worth money. Okay, A zorr Blues says, I've
seen the premiums are huge for high relief one ounce
gold US mint coins like the Horse Flowing Hair Tree.
Do you think the prices will continue to write regardless
of the spot price? I'll take this one. My answer

(37:04):
is eventually, at some point now they're going to catch
up with these coins and they will become melt, kind
of like with what happened to Proof gold Eagles. Proof
gold Eagles held a pretty significant premium over gold for
a while, at one point, getting up to seven or
eight or nine hundred dollars over an ounce. Well, guess
what those points stayed the same, right around three thousand dollars,

(37:24):
and then all of a sudden, guess what, gold caught
up to them, and now they're just melt. And that's
kind of what may happen with these I think that
you're going to run into that same situation that we're
seeing with like Saint Godin's right now, Common Saints, Proof
gold Eagles, all that stuff. If there are huge premiums

(37:45):
out there, there won't be for long. If gold continues
to rise. Now, if gold falls back down, then premiums
might start to creep their way back in. But I
think it's gonna anything in the future will just be
a pinch in my opinion, until it's over. So all right, Kevin, Kelly, Hey, Kevin,

(38:06):
gonna see you. By the way, this past week, I
received my back order copy in large print of quote
the Red Book. This is really one big, beautiful book.
Thank you Whitman. Oh good, Kevin, I really appreciate us
seeing that. Yeah, the new Red Book is spectacular. We
really like it. Well, no, Kevin got a special copy
because Kevin's heard of a large print. Yeah, so he

(38:31):
got a special copy. And I'm glad that they were
able to accommodate that. I didn't. I didn't even know
they did that.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
So, oh yeah, they've been making a large print edition
for a while.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Yeah. Interesting.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
It's funny because once I started kind of collecting books,
I noticed that there was there was a paperback version,
there's a large there was a large type edition, there
was a spiral bound edition there. I mean, just all
these different ones that they make that you just had
no idea.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Huh, Yeah, I mean I didn't. I sure didn't like
when when women sent me the the press copies of
The Red Book, there were like four different books in there,
and I was like, what's this. There's a big one,
there's a spiral bound, there's a little spiral bound, there's
a hardback, and then there's a softback. Ye. Cool.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Thanks, They're making a lot of different formats. I'll tell
you what. We saw more of the spiral bounds than
any other.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah, Kevin, if you think about it, next time you
come in the office, bring that with you. I would
like to see that, and I would because I bet
you that most people have no idea that that is
an option, especially people that are hard of seeing. So
I think that that would maybe we can make a
video or something about it, and I think that that
would be cool to showcase that they actually do make
this and it is out there for people to consume

(39:47):
if if that is something that they could use, So
very cool. Well, thank you guys. Anything else let me
see here that really in particular, I mean teammates a
smart Aley comment, Well, what's new? Do we love them? Anyway?

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Jimmy eighty one says errors are great. Unfortunately, ninety nine
point nine percent of these quote errors are just damage
and I won't agree with the rest of it, you know,
it's not about wasting people's look.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
It's like I got you know, I had a very
wholesome air coin encounter today that wasn't frustrating because I
had a guy coming into the office. He handed me
a coin that was clearly a vice job. I mean
the coin was wavy, not flat, it was off center,
and it was incuse it was it was clearly a
vice job. And he was so receptive my answer, he goes,

(40:41):
he goes, yeah, I was afraid that's what it was.
Instead of arguing, instead of like no, no, my dad's
my dad's great my dad's grandpa's brother said this is
a very valuable coin, worth lots of money, and no
it was. It was actually nice. I didn't mind that
one one bit. When they're receptive to the answer, receptive

(41:03):
and they listen, you know, you don't have to like
you don't have to to Oh really, it's none of that.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
Just listen, pay attention because most people don't.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Their eyes closed over and you're do you know what?
I gets stuff wrong from time to time. But if
I'm telling you that I know what this is, I
know what it is, like there are some like little
facts I might get wrong, like today, I was talking
to Joe Bowling. If you know who Joe Bowling is,
he's a paper money expert, paper money expert. He's a

(41:35):
A and a vice president. He's local to us, and
he was in my office today. We were just talking
and it was like Joe corrected me on something and
I was like, no, I don't. And then I thought
about it for a second. I was like, oh, wait,
this is Joe that's correcting you. You know you just
shut up and listen. So Joe's probably forgotten more than
you know. Yes, And then I was like, oh, I

(41:57):
guess you're right, Joe. So I like what I said
about it.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
Someone can only be ignorant if they're informed and choose
not to acknowledge it.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
That's a good way to put it, really. I mean
that happens. That happens a lot, and it's a shame.
It's just it's weird. It didn't used to happen at all.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
Oh, in here for the vision impaired Chris Gay. The
Kindle edition of the Red Book can also be good.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Hey, there you going?

Speaker 3 (42:24):
You know it is it's their flagship.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Yeah, I mean I don't I get it. I get it,
but huh, that's cool. That's pretty cool. Yeah, seein's making sense,
knows what's that? Respect for Colonel Joe Bow? And Yeah,
Joe's a very nice man. He I consider myself very
lucky to know Joe. He's the chief judge for the
ana's exhibits. I mean, he he's a smart, very kind man,

(42:50):
and he's a very kind man. He is. I actually saw,
you know what. I don't want talk too much about
his business, but I saw them something for his collection
today that he did not have, and that in itself
was a win. I was. It's hard to do. Yeah, yeah,
so yeah, all right, Well do you want to get
to the favorite parts that everybody's been waiting for? Of course?

Speaker 3 (43:12):
Okay, we've dragged it out long enough.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Let me get myself set here. I think maybe I
should get set. You know. I think I'm going to
make a song for this. I'm going to make a
song for their coolest thing. We have our coolest thing intro,
but I think I'm going to make some sort of
funny song for their coolest thing. I'm not quite sure
what it'll be, but we'll make something. We'll figure it out. Okay,

(43:38):
there's that. There's that, all right, here we go, So
everybody's favorite segment, Your coolest Thing, where we check out
the coolest thing in your collection, something new that you bought,
or something an old friend in your collection, and we
check them out here on the show. So Joshua Wright says,
really cool coin if I picked up made down in

(44:00):
eighteen sixty eight French five francs. I've seen these before.
These are really actually kind of cool. They do. They
have a file and then they have a knife blade
in them, and they're they're thick too. If you've never
seen one, they're actually like twice as thick as the
coin to accommodate all the hardware and stuff. They're really
kind of cool. Let me see if he posted the
other side. Yeah he did. Yep, these exist. They are

(44:22):
out there. Very cool. Thank you. Jody Dotson and said,
my daughter sent me some tokens from the train she
rise to work in Philadelphia. They no longer use them,
but you can buy them to collect. Oh, that's kind
of cool actually that they said they don't use them anymore,
but they sell them. It's cool. You know what, here's
something neat. Why didn't we ever make buy metallics like that?

(44:46):
Why don't we make a striped by Metallic. I've seen
those in tokens before, right, yeah, striped one. That's that's
very different. You know we can make coins like that,
no problem. Yeah, it's really just better in the strip.
Oh interesting, very very cool. Thank you so much, Jody.

(45:06):
Oh wait other side outside, I see it there. It
is cool. Thank you so much, Jody. Transportation Tokens. Slab
Daddy's in the house. Slab Daddy shows us Isabella Corter
in Rattler m S sixty five pcgs. Very nice. It's uh,
you know, got some pretty blue toning to it. Nice

(45:29):
original surfaces. I like that coin. Yeah, A rare survivor
of a coin that actually looks nice that wasn't cracked
out for an upgrade. Nice coin, uh. Jack Riley says,
I couldn't pick a favorite, so I'll share too and
ask for forgiveness. Jack, I swear I'll allow it first.

(45:53):
A very tough variety kiped in twelve seven eight one
one very rare clash dive organ. Okay, so there are
some crazy people out there that collect die clashes. Jack
must be one of them, which is fine. You know,
I will never look at the coins very closely, so
if you look at a Morgan silver dollar, the main
place you will see a die clash is coming right

(46:15):
out of the neck, right out here, and there are
some people that collect the die clashes. A lot of
times you can actually see them under the wing as well.
Sometimes you can see them up here coming out of
the wing. Right here, coming out of the the the wing,
you'll see the bottom of the neck, and I think
we see it here. But there are people that actually
collect the really interesting clash coins. And also sometimes you

(46:36):
can see what's called the e reverse which is down
here underneath the eagle feathers, tail feathers. It'll be the
e from Liberty showing up at the clash. And so
there are some people that collect those, and there are
some very rare ones out there. There are some double triple,
quadruple clashes that are very interesting where the dice moves
very slightly in between the clashes, so it's actually kind

(46:57):
of like a ghosting. Interesting and number two Jack says
this will be gifted, so it won't reside in my
collection for long. Eighteen oh two S two thirty two
counterstamp h K J. Cool. That's a you know what's
really cool about this and probably how you were able

(47:17):
to figure it out. It has a nice little cut
on the back as well. Nice still a die break
there above states and HKJ. That could be anything. That
could have been a silversmith. That could be just I mean,
somebody made this punch for well, that punch is handmade.
That's some sort of handmade, like metallic punch. So it

(47:38):
probably had a use, whether that was like stamping spoons.
A lot of times you'll see silversmiths with practice or
test out a new stamp. Sometimes they would do it
on coin. Sometimes they would use this advertising. Sometimes we
have no idea why they stamped it. But somebody made
a stamp that said HKJ and then they stamped this
coin with it. Very interesting. Let's see here Zach says,

(48:04):
I didn't buy it, but I did pull it out
of long term storage for the first time in years.
These are the personal A and A cards of Lewis Eliasberg,
one from nineteen sixty seven and his golden lifetime card.
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
That is cool. That is Zach Sonumia right.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
There, Membership L one sixty nine for Leuis Eliasberg Life
member one sixty nine. That's pretty cool. I think I'm
on life number ten thousand something.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
Yeah, I have five digits in mine.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Yeah, let's see here. Mark Mark Lovemos said, I saw
sorry one second. I saw a lot of four South
Korean nineteen sixty eight one to one coins forbid at eBay.
A few years ago. I won the set and sent
all four coins of NBC for grating. Three came back

(49:00):
in m S sixty five and one shown below in
m S sixty six. Currently, there are thirty one in
an ind city census at this grade and only three
higher U since listening an eBay note of the coins
came from the came from a man bag. I contacted
the seller to ask if he still had the bag.
He did, surprisingly, and I snagged it for an extra
thirty dollars. Wow. After a few years, I got the

(49:21):
idea to place the bag in the coin in a
frame and a shadow box of some kind. I got
the idea after seeing someone else who had done this
with a mint bag of a CC Morgan dour Uh.
Here is my shadow box. It's a pricey German Linder
brand box that uses plastic film sections that wrap tightly
together over what you're trying to display between the two
halves of the frame. This is the largest one I

(49:43):
could find at nine by seven on the interior. That
looks so cool though, that was like cool. I kind
of sort of want one of those with your bag, bag, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
With your bag.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
That's pretty cool. Yeah. Oh the way he did that too,
that's perfect for like a coin exhibit. Very cool, Thank
you so much. Thomas Tucker says, two coins that Queen
Elizabeth and King Charles. Oh I didn't know they did that.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
Yeah, they did him in twenty twenty three because they
already had the dies made.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
For her, right, sure, huh. That's pretty cool. I like
how they're staring at each other, that is yeh that
is well, yeah, I'll tell you what the next one,
wouldn't you do it?

Speaker 3 (50:31):
They're gonna be looking away from each other.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Well, we know that he didn't get his ears from her.
That's all I'm gonna say. We're gonna keep moving here.
That's Jack short lideage. Yeah. Jack Young says my best
eighteen oh six struck and certified half cent counterfeit oh
man oh man coin too. Yeah that's an older one,

(50:56):
but NGC goofed up. Yeah they did, they sure did.
That coin is not genuine. And I know it sounds
crazy because it looks really good, but that is one
of those super fake clones we always talk about that
Jack really likes and really likes to find and research,
and it sure is. I hate those things. They're scary.

(51:17):
But that's the part that's scary is it tells us
that this happened not too recently because these holders are
not all that old only.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
Yeah no, they're only like six seven months old.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Yeah, maybe maybe maybe a little older, but not that much, right. Ah.
Dennis Mendoza a total mintage twenty five hundred with a
total population of sixty to seventy coins. Dennis is coming
in with the oh mint gold again hot he always
does every time. Eighteen forty one oh ten dollar gold
piece pcgs x F forty with a CAC sticker. A

(51:49):
super cool coin.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
Yeah, New Orleans been gold. Let's see it's only the
third year. Yeah, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
That's pretty Coolry Conkle says, I have never collected modern coins. Yeah,
I mean either, Corey, but I love this design, so
I wanted a bag of them. What's wrong with you? Uh,
Sometimes it's not about the value money. Sometimes it's about
the one. Okay and cool photos. Come on there we go.
Oh so he used the president of the thes. No,

(52:23):
those are the one dollar oh innovation dollars. Yeah, the
innovation dollar with the rocket with the shuttle. That's cool.
Good picture, Joe Bohannon friend like it? Man, you don't
like Nordon? I know, I see I didn't. Right here
see this thing that says like it's not lit up?
It means I didn't like it. Joebohannas has not an

(52:48):
expensive colin, but this complete my PCGES registered set of
cameo proof coins from nineteen fifty to sixty four. That's
pretty cool. Great up, Mike, Sally believe or not. Uh,
this has the lowest population of them all. It took
me about two years to find one. Man. He shows
us a nineteen fifty quarter in proof sixty four cameo fifties,
a really hardened cameo fifties fifty ones too. Oh my gosh,

(53:12):
you see this. He shows us the whole set. Wow,
you're a man after Mike's heart on that one. Steve
shows us a nineteen thirteen Type one Buffalo some tone
don't have it great yet, maybe someday it's a nice coin.
It looks like it's got some pretty luster. Some flow

(53:35):
needs to be graded. That's all right, that's true. That's
a nice, honest coin. Yeah, just a really nice coin.
Yeap'll see if he shows the back here he does. Cool. Yeah,
I mean, that's just a really nice coin. Wait a minute,
the unnamed source bought a coin n stores. I know

(53:57):
the man behind the glass not only a nice proof
Liberty Nickel and a cool holder, but a variety as well.
And he shows us an eighteen eighty three v Nickel
no sense proof. That's cool. That is a nice coin.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
Yeah, it looks like a cool coin, yet no cameo designition.
It kind of surprises me.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Yeah, the front is a little week I think, but
maybe I hand would change that. It's hard to say,
hard to say. Oh, and then the fuzz is up. Next,
look at this fuzz corey. Scherer says, Fort Defiance Centennial
token about the size of the Morgan dollar. Super cool
piece commemorating this fort. Built on the corner of a

(54:42):
Glossy and Mommy rivers in seventeen ninety four during the
Northwest Indian War. The fort is now the location of Defiance, Ohio,
and is about a forty minute drive for me. The
reverse has an awesome wooden wagon, which is a close
resemblance to the wooden wagon my parents had in their
front yard wagon in your front yard when I was

(55:05):
growing up. Anyways, thanks for tuning into the Best Hobby
podcast and supporting Mike Matt. Oh thanks Fuss. Let's take
a look at this token. Well, that is cool. Centennial
celebration so eighteen ninety four, seventeen ninety four to eighteen
ninety four. So this token was made in eighteen ninety
four to celebrate four defiance compliments of the Turnbull Wagon Company.

(55:31):
Walla Walla one oh no to fine sohio. And that's funny.
That's how commercials used to be back in the day.
Like that was a commercial before television and radio. Right there.
You would put something cool on this side that would
get people's attention, and then on this side you would
put your advertising. And that is how you look like money.
Yeah oh yeah, yeah, very cool. Stephen Burton says, this

(55:54):
is one of my favorite recent pickups. A Philip the
Second type stag are struck under Philip the Second or
Alexander the Great. The obverse depicts a rather finely styled Apollo,
the god of Delphi, to whom Philip had a particular
interest in uh In the Third Sacred War, Philip had
turned against the Phoenicians, who had plundered the temple treasures

(56:15):
in Delphi. The reverse alludes to phillips victory at the
Olympic Games in three fifty six BC. This design is
a great display of Phillips felt. What the heck does
that word even mean? Okay, I gotta define this word.
Where's the definition? Definition? Oh man, pan hellenic political?

Speaker 3 (56:41):
That means, that means across the Greek world.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Ah yeah, see that's I don't do many ancients, so
I don't. I don't know this word. But okay, that
makes sense political prowess and promotion. And he shows us
a very pretty staker, which is a gold denomination.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
Golden nomination is has a.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
I forget.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
I want to call it a byedriga quadriga, No quadriga.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
So this one's like a like a. I just called
it a chariot. I like this trophy underneath it looks
like two arms.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
Were like, oh, well, there's there's something else to notice
there too, but I'm going to leave it alone. U
there is a victory underneath, the horses as they rise,
and the riding in Greek underneath shows you that this
is from Greek times.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Yeah. Cool, very cool coin. I like that stuff. Just
too many hard to pronounce words for me, Bob, the
names are horrible. I know. Bob Brocks has recent cementtal return.
Got this for a great price too, And he shows
us a nineteen twenty one standing over that came back

(57:58):
in an annex VF thirty holder. The dates a little week,
but that's a lot of them. The dates a little
week because that's where they put it on the highest
point of the coin before they recessed it a little
bit and a lot of times you see that. So
you can get a coin in a mid grade like
that and it can only have part of a night
that is standing Liberty quarters for you. Yeah right, Matt Ringer,

(58:22):
I still feel like that's my alter ego. Uh says
not this week, but since your last episode, a collection
was gifted to my family and this was the highlight.
This was the last type pin I needed for my set.
Runner up from the collection included a seventy eight cc
Morgan in XF an enviray damaged a thirty two d
quarter also in xf I'm currently deployed, so my wife

(58:46):
and I got to explore the collection for Date Night
on FaceTime. Oh that's cute. Uh. This coin was the
first coin my six year old pull out to show
me she knows daddy likes gold. Hey, now that is
pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
So you've got Matt Ringer and Mike Doppelganger.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
They're going to start a podcast. Yeah, it's called Show
eighteen seventy seven twenty lib very cool. Nope, it's a
Philly nice last leave, but not. Malcolm mcgullis has arrived

(59:29):
in the post this morning. And Innocent the twelfth, sixteen
ninety five one Julio Guglio g I U l I
O Julio Julio. Uh. The three pots on the coat
of arms are the alms pots representing being charitable. This
was a time. This was a family coat of arms design. Oh,

(59:52):
I've never seen one of those before. Yeah, so Innocent
was Pope. Yeah, the Papal States Italian Papal States. Yep. Cool,
I've just never seen one. Huh. Steve Vesley shows us
early two Dancecow Albums Early Half Dollars Volume one and two,
seventeen ninety four to eighteen thirty nine. Those books are

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probably rare, probably pretty second rare. Ernesto from the mone
Pirie eightieth anniversary of WW two. Each coin represents a
different country soldier American, British, Canadian, and of course French.

(01:00:36):
What rude? Are they all doing the peace sign? One? Two, three, four?
They are all doing the peace sign. That's a V
for victory, for victory. Yeah cool, that's an eat piece. Uh.
Robbie Glore says Morgan Binder, with cards and coins from

(01:00:57):
each year. I've seen these before. These are kind of cool.
The company put these out doing the decent job of actually,
like you know, showing you interesting things that were going
on those years. Yes, the.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
Media that they give you with them are really good.
Some of these sets. The coins are actually pretty decent too.
Some of them they're not. Some of them they are
polished to death.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
But I wish those companies would not polish those coins
to death before they stuck them in there. Right, I've
seen those before too, I've torn apart unfortunately. All right
now you ready, Mike tell it? And finally, Jack Young says,
I had to add this one notified the eBay seller.
It is a current Chinese counterfeit and why after he

(01:01:42):
asked why, I thought that? Uh. He then let it
continue to run after a couple of days. I bought
it to prevent someone else from getting stun Then I
requested a cancelation refund, doing it to be fake and
receive both. Who knows what the seller or deal dealer
we'll do with it now while I.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
Can we tell you jack, they'll run it again.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Yep. So this one is. These are kind of the
the decent ones, but they're not great because if you
look one of the well the date looks funky. You're
exactly right. There is a big, big, weird blemish out
here in the obverse field, which is a dye dent
or a die gouge on the counterfeit. Nos, yep, it'll

(01:02:26):
be on all of them, and the dentaicals down here
at the bottom. You see some damage too, which was
probably damaged to the dye. And then the overall surfaces
are just too stink and grainy. If you look at
the surfaces and you think, okay, well this one is
really high grade. Why are we missing so much detail
on the hair, And then you start looking around the
rest of the coin and see, oh, the stars, they're
kind of grainy, and they look out here in the

(01:02:48):
rim and it's really grainy. And then you see that
the rims aren't aligned very well, and you know, I
mean it's it's it's a lot of trouble on this one.
There is. But you know, the design itself isn't terrible. No,
the fit to full most it's good enough to fool
a lot of people. Yeah, but they're they're like the

(01:03:11):
one that Jack show us earlier, much much better fake
and those are the scary ones. So and there it is.
Ask Jack four hundred dollars, spend four dollars just to
uh yeah, wah wah, Well darn it, Jack, and that's it.

(01:03:35):
That's your coolest thing. Thank you so much, guys. You
guys rock. I always loved going through those. I don't
know if I could, uh if I could have so
much fun on this show without having those, So thank
you guys so much. Yeah, we really do enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
Jimmy eighty one says, what are your go to loops
for everyday?

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Use? I use a ten power. Uh so, So I'll
tell you a funny story. I just recently got myself
an Eichenbach, which is really good loop. But for years
and years I use the ones that you could just
pick up at any coin show because I was cough
forever losing my loop. So I got used to just
one of those little steel ten power dudes that you

(01:04:17):
can pick up at the coin shows for like twelve
or fifteen bucks. You know. Obviously having the icenback now
you can see the difference, but it's not that much difference.
If you need the ten ac powers, that the most
I'll use.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
So here's what I'll say is that Bash and Lamb
makes a really good collapsible square plastic. It's really good
for about fifteen bucks.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
We have those all around. We let people use them.
We have those laying around the office and we let
people use them. We call them the old Man glass.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
So anyways, so so yeah, they make a really good
small square loop. I personally it's an ashe box. But
it's like you're talking about guys to.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Do this for a living.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
There's there's a reason for really wanting to see things
a certain way. I you don't need a lens like
that to view most points.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
You just don't. I started with the camera lands back
in the day when I was a kid. I had
a camera lands and I flipped drop backwards and that
was what I used because I just could. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
Eric Byer says that loops are like ripehole scopes.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
Pay a little more and get better ie relief. I'm
not long.

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
Yeah, it's it really depends on how much you use
it as to how much fatigue you're gonna get.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
And that's I think the the the advantage to using
a really good loop. You know, I'm not sure which
which loop I have. Mine's just a roundude that folds
into the other and has a little hook on things
cause I wear it on a landyard on my neck
every day. So I think you have the same one
as I do, right, Yeah, I got all the guys

(01:05:55):
in the office one just because it's.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
Well that was nice because you're like two hundred bucks apiece.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Well, I mean you gotta have the right tools for
the job. Yes, you do. So no, Hey, Aaron bought
me mine. So just it's kind of like I write
a passage in the coin industry. Your boss buys you
a really nice loop, yeah, and then says, here, don't
mess up. Yeah, Well that's how you know you made it.
That's how you know, like you're you're into the industry

(01:06:20):
when your boss buys you a nice loop, because at
that point he's not worried about you just taking off.
At that point, if he was worried about you taking off,
he'd got you a fifteen dollar loop. That's true where
you nobody Well, well, sir, that's it. That's a wrap
to forty seven in the books for seven in the books.

(01:06:42):
And uh, first, I wanted everybody to give a big
round of applause to the man behind the glass, the
guy who's been making this work for us tonight, you're
kind of I Barry old chairs mute, did you good evening?

(01:07:03):
Thank you so much. Yeah, guys, most of the time
when we do this show, Barry hangs out with us.
He's just making sure that you guys behave and we
don't have to boot any of you weirdos out of here.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
So far, not a problem. So he's our resident bouncer
and he's good at it too. So we'd like to
thank Barry for being behind the scenes. We'd also like
to thank the other people behind the scenes of our show.
We ever Nesto, and we have Fuzzy, and we have Russ,
and we have Leanna, and we have, Uh, justin I.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Knew there was. I was wondering if you were going
to get it. Yeah, I knew I had another one.
I was just reaching for it. And but thank you
to you who listened to this, because without you, this
is entirely pointless. We really love doing it, and we
like doing it for you. You know, you guys show up
every single time and just put out for us. So

(01:07:56):
we really really love that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
More to come on the what's Mike's reading? If you look,
there's a couple of books behind me that are.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
On this side or like that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
Baby, that's what I got coming up. So I'm doing
a little summer reading. And uh, we'll see if we
can pass some of that on. You got any format?

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
Nope, we'll see you go on when we when we
pop back on for another episode, we're gonna enjoy a
month or so off and maybe come back and say hi. Yeah,
we'll come back and say hi.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
And now I think what we'll do is we'll time
it out to where two.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
Fifty is going to be right after Labor Day. That's
a great idea. Yeah, great idea. So for a coin show.

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
I'm Mike and I'm Matt, and we will talk to
you next time on episode.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
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