May 13, 2025 • 36 mins
It's been a few weeks since the Chaps last caught up so there is much college football news to talk about.
So on this episode, we chat
So on this episode, we chat
- the Bill Belichick "circus" at Chapel Hill
- moving to a 16 team College Football Play Off
- the implementation of a Presidential Collegiate Sports Commission
- and Lee Corso's retirement
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm not going to comment on that.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'll get fined for the rest of my life if
I get comment on that.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Natural chap that young girls.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Everyone, and welcome to the College Chaps podcast. It's been
a few weeks since we last sat around the mic,
meaning there's a lot of college shop all news to
catch up on. So in this episode we're going to
have a really good leader about what on earth has
been happening since we last spoke. Spoiler alert, A lot
has been happening. But first we the Chaps. I'm George
and I'm joined by the duo who have done to
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college sho podcasting? What in deck have done to Saturday
night prime time entertainment? Yes, it's Ollie and Alex. How
are you both?
Speaker 4 (00:59):
I'm just wondering one of those which one of us.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
That's that's for you to decide. I'm not going to
get into that debate.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Nice it is a bleather in the intro. I really
appreciated that, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Alex has got haircut? Happy haircut Alex.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Yeah, I had a haircut, won a national championship. Been
been a good, good couple of months since I've been
on right. So yeah, I've not no, no, no, I've not
made any any games in the the gym department.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Oh no, I was just saying. I was just saying.
I was just a very subtle flax.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I really was big flex to be honest. Always got
a new house where we're now seeing. This is your
debut of the Chateau Hodgkinson. So we're now seeing if
you're on YouTube. If you're not on YouTube, Bell you're
missing out. Frankly happy pace moving in all.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
Over my Navy football inspired blind shout out to the
Navy midshipman.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Albust On brad So alex as the national champion. You've
got a new mansion. It's what happened. And this podcasting
monarchy must be working out for something.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Oie also got banned from Twitter, which is.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
We meant to talk about it, but that that that
was that was that was second behind Bilbert Belichick, But
we meant to talk about that. I don't know, is
that detrimental to your appeal, Oliver if we start talking.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
About I think band makes it sound so much worse.
But then again, like my suspendency, it's pretty bad as well.
And I guess talking about Elms and year pretty same
year and how Nasi propagame. They eventually, I guess it's
what's happened.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
We we we we should, we should learned from pastics pearce.
We have no idea who's loss to us? Podcast? That's
all I can say. No yourself, time to move on.
I believe I mentioned Bill Belichick and it seems an
appropriate place to start, like Bill joined the rest of
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the circus. I don't know, I've kind of lost for
words with this last year. The University of North Carolina
just seemed of me. It's obviously a very auspicious university.
It's a great place to go to school. It's got
such an incredible history. You know, most recently, Matt Brown
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was the head coach. You know what I mean? You know,
Mac Brown will be in the College Football Hall of Fame,
no problem at all, and in a space of weeks.
And I don't believe it, I would ever think of
we're using Bill Belichick and circus and the same. It
isn't a complete nonsense. I'm missing something.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Look, Belichick had the best quarterback of all time in
the NFL, so we're still actually this sounds so weird
to say, but he's still actually a little bit unproven
as a coach because you look at his record without
the best quarterback in the NFL, and you know he's
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got very little to know history in the college game.
So it's not really the most auspicious of starts, is
it your college coaching career? And look, there's obviously so
many media circuses that go on now in college football,
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with nil, with the transfer portal, with half of the
Georgia team getting arrested for DUI's just so much chaos.
Is such a big fan fair, such a circus around
everything that goes on?
Speaker 4 (04:56):
This doesn't actually.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Feel that out of place.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I guess it. I guess it doesn't really to be better.
And it's hard to expect. It's hard to anticipate anything
that's going to happen in college football. But I guess Bill,
is this good for Bill Belichick?
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Oliver?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I mean, you're you're closer to this than any of
us because New England are your team, so you've benefited
from I guess the Tom Brady experiment Alex alluded to.
But it's this, Is this good in terms of Belichick's personality,
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media brand, whatever? Again, I guess that's what it's what
we're leading to a bit.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
You're were to say I'm close to the situation because
I've got a younger girlfriend.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
That's a very.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
Difference between myself and Emily. Is nowhere difference between Bill
and Jordan Glad.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I'm glad. I'm really glad to hear that, to be honest.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
Forty one So that's sort of age would be problematic,
I think more so than getting suspended from Twitter.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
But what.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
Look, let's get back to college football.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
If you remove the media, I always.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
The situation, and if you remove the media circus around
Bill Belichick and.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Jordian Hudson and.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
Various different things that have happened, reports have been out there,
counter reports and whatnot.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I think what you strip.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
Away from the all of that and look at how
Bill Belichick fits into the college football arena in the
pantheon of what we've seen across the sport. We talked
about Mac Brown and North the sport is very rapidly
becoming not an older coach's game, not a not a
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traditional coaches game because.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Of all the things that.
Speaker 6 (07:15):
We've discussed in multiple episodes over the past twelve, eighteen,
twenty four months. Whatever it is where all the coaches
don't want to be involved.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
In the nil element that are.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
Becoming tired of what that entails. In the recruiting element
of college football, that for a lot of coaches has
historically been the real joy of coaching college football is
going in and recruiting those athletes.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
You know, we've heard.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
Coaches like Nick Saban talk about their experience going into
a family's home and recruiting their son to play college
football at the University of wherever. That's been a joyful
part of the game. And for a lot of the
older coaches that stopped being a joy for the game.
So I think for you know, we said Jeff Halfway
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and multiple the head college football coaches jumped to positional
roles in the NFL because of this exact thing.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
And so for Bill Belichick, a guy who you know,
I couldn't even.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
Tell you off the top of the head how old
Bill is, but you know he was retired as an
NFL coach to come back into the college game is
it was I think an eyebrow raising moved for him
at the time. And now he's surrounded by this whole
circus of a younger person with with Jordan Hudson and
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whatever that is bringing and it brings to mind, you know,
the sort of cringing videos of Brian Kelly gyrating on
a rotating disc with a top recruit, like there's rapidly
becoming not an older coach's game. I think a lot
of people can will appreciate that, and I think that's
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the crux of the issue really, I think for North
Carolina this season and moving forward, is is that more
so than the media circause. Yeah, that's suboptimal for a
program that traditionally isn't you know, surrounded by the drama
that Alex alluded to with programs like Georgia and some
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of you know, some of the other other programs that
are historically in the media for all the wrong reasons. Yeah,
I think that's the I think that's the big thing where.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
That's an interesting one And so far as you know,
if you look at Bill Chick's standing in the same
way that you know Zaban Matt Brown, Dad was swingty whatever,
I could see look at the number of players I've
guided to the NFL, Come join my program. I'll get
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you into the NFL. Bilchick could swing it the other
way and see, well, listening to exactly what it takes
to be in the NFL, so come to me, And
so I kind of see the the recruiting angle a
slightly different way to the Brian Kelly thing, because you know,
we all all kind have made fun of Brian Kelly.
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But what he's trying to do is he's trying to
fit into that kind of modern world of recruiting where
you know, you just have to be a parody of
yourself to you know, do what it takes to get
the recruit. So I can see where, but I mean,
I don't I don't know how close he is to
the story. Pablotry is as obviously, you know, run the
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story and is making a name for himself. I know
he's a he's a big name ESPN anyway, But I
think to myself, he said recently that Bill Belichick might
not even coach a game at you and see such
as the kind of earthquake that's happening at the school
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just now. I mean, that would just be a terrible
look for all parties, wouldn't it.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
No, No, for me, it would be, But it also
would be quite a heartwarming thing, a trusting thing if
you're a UNC fan.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
All right.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
What's worse is if you let this circus go on
all year, because that becomes a lot harder to recover
from if they turn around tomorrow and go, yeah, we
don't like this, we don't like the girlfriend having as
much influence as this, We don't like the way this
has gone about. It goes against the values of our school. Yeah,
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they probably get short term, but I think long term
they're better off for it. So, yeah, they have to
decide what part of the ride they want to go on.
You don't have success without some sort of craziness attached
to it, especially in this day and age, with nil
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and everything else that goes with being successful in college football.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
I think as well, where that.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
Reporting is concerned, there's a little bit of gasoline on
the fire with that because obviously, when bellow Chip was
first announced to UNC, there was all the for raw
over his contract and the fact that there was a
clause in there which was essentially how much he would
get paid if he never coached a game on Chapel Hill.
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And obviously now a report comes out saying, you know,
or you might not make it to the season. We're
getting very close to the day. To think of the
junior first that was reported as that contractual day where
if Bill Belichick was no longer with the North Carolina
Tar Hills, there'd.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Be a certain change.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
In the evaluation and his contract there. So I think
with that there's a lot of I guess there's a
lot of smoke and a lot of fire and a
lot of intrigue when a report like that comes out
that kind of concurs with.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Things that were being discussed when it was first hired.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Enough of Nobili chick, Let's move on to another story. Actually,
I mean, there's been so many that have come about
over the last couple of weeks, but let's talk about
the most The Ellinger ran the story about the potential
of the expansion for a college football playoff. What do
you guys think about that? Moving to sixteen? That just
feels to me like a big move straight away? What
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do you think?
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Well, I mean, theorestically, it's not a big move.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
If you go from we went from four to twelve,
twelve to sixteen, not a significant as you know, a
significant elite in some respects. It evens up a format
so that you go sixty to eighty four to winner.
I guess presumably that's what they would do with that
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rather than having this un even number of the visible
teams that results in a first round by and things
like that. Presumably a sixteen team tournament would have a
straightforward four round element to it. I guess so I
don't think it's that big a leap in terms of
the number. I think it's been something that's been discussed before.
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Who really gets my go is the the also bid situation. Well,
we've just had a twelve team. People for expanding from
four to twelve was going to be ludicrous and ruined
the value of the sport and ruined the spectacle. We're
just coming off one of the best college football seasons.
I think bands analysts, people who work in college football,
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people who are around this sport, I think can agree
that we just had one of the most memorable college
football season, one of the greatest college fo seasons, which
seemed for a long time. So obviously the number of
playoff teams didn't dilute the product as people thought it
might do. I think what will dilute the product if
it goes to the sixty team playoffs. It's same before
the season, four SEC teams, four Big ten teams, three
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ACC teams, whatever. The rest of the numbers are as
they go down, are guaranteed to get into the College
Football Playoff. I think it's wrong on a lot of
a lot of levels. And I appreciate that we have
people who listen to this podcast who are close to
some of the conferences that I've just mentioned, some of
them closer than others. But in my opinion, having auto
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bids to the College Football Playoff for any conference before
a football has been thrown, run, tackled, football kicked, punted, spiked.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Is wrong. In my opinion. It just is. It just is.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
And some of the nuances within that that are being
discussed with certain conferences, like having a playing game for
I think the ACC discussed having like a playing game
to decide who's their third team will be that represents
them in the College Football Playoff.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
No, no, thank you.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
That's that's for me. It's against everything that college football
stands for. I think it dilutes the spectacle of the sport.
I think it ruins the sport a number of levels
at a time where I don't think college football can
afford to be ruined, especially as you, as you say,
you're coming off a season where it defied preseason assumptions
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about what an expanded playoff may look like. Let's not
try and and make it so that people are even
less enamored with the process of how we side who
plays for a national championship.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Yeah, I mean I tend to agree with you, Olie.
I think that you know, the more you set in
stone before the start of the year, the less there
are for interesting stories coming through. I think there are
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a lot of really good underdog stories that could come
out from this. And with what we've seen is you
don't have to have great stories in the first round, right,
you can, you can have some blowout matches. But if
it allows for great stories to happen throughout the year,
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right if a mid major or a group of five
team makes a fairy tale run, they go undefeated, and
they get in and they get blown out out in
the week game one of the playoffs, doesn't matter because
they've had that story to get there. Where your stories
come in your your final fours and in your championship games.
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So there's a lot that has to come from the
the stories in the regular season. The minute you sort
of say you know, X number of teams get in
and yeah, it's four sec teams SEC title becomes meaningless.
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At that point, might as well get rid of.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
The championship game.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Because those teams are in and it will be based
on their their ranking. And you also have the opportunity
or the potential. And this this happens in other sports.
We're just coming off the men's volleyball National Championship game
in in a last night. They have a ten team
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tournament and there's lots of auto bids into that and
two at large. Only two at large bids in a
ten team tournament, and that meant that number six ranked
USC didn't get into the tournament and an unranked conference
champion did and there were no not really any good
games in the tournament because quite a few of the
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best teams were left out. I like the idea of
some auto bids, especially with lower down conferences, to make
them worth and make sure those athletes don't get lost
and those teams don't get lost. But I do think
you need to have the best teams, the best sixteen
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teams based on ranking based on achievements throughout the year,
not based on the conference that they play in.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I mean, if there's any other conference outside the SEC
and the Big ten I'd be really worried about this
move because this is the first step towards super conferences, right,
and arguably Rorady got them, But to have eight teams
who automatic qualify, and I think we saw I know
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both of you have made this very valid point. I
think we saw last year the benefit of teams coming
in on their on their ranking. Yeah, there was there
was a couple of blowout games, but then you saw
the rise of Arizona State, which was arguably arguably the
best story in that college football playoff, and I would
want to see more of that as far. I'd want
to see more of that and unless of teams automatically
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you're qualifying and then then just get knocked out in
the first the first round, right, I mean also take
a point like also, not only does it get away
with the conference championship games, I think it starts to
make a walkery of the the rankings, right, because then
what we're going to do. I think teams can, particularly
if you've got four teams from a conference, teams can
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manage and manipulate the way through the conference schedule and
arguably doing that anyway. But I just shook my head
when I saw I think we all knew it was coming, right,
And I don't think it'll stop at sixteen. I think
it'll I think it will move beyond that. But I
just the game is moving so far away from the game.
I think we all fell in love with and we're
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not the longest tenured watch as a college ship or
I think people who have spent their life watching collegehip
all must be pretty disillusioned by these moves.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
I would have thought, Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
And I think you know, we've seen that in the
last couple of years of the disillusionment within fan bases
on a number of number of levels. With the current
college football climate, you know, fans being asked to extra
of the season tickets to play for.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
D I L money and things like that.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
You mentioned power conferences there, I wonder a little bit
of excuse me, I wonder a little bit of allowing
SEC in the Big Ten. The largest slice of the
college football playoff pie is a move to try.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
And prevent.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
Those two conferences from split it off completely and having
their own little pro season party and trying to almost
keep college football together in a way well, in a
way that.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Is kind of done wrong. I guess from from most
people's perspective.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I mean to can move seamlessly onto the next segment.
We've obviously got getting closer to the House settlement coming
to fruition, and we all know that there's money that's
that's going to be paid out student athletes. This is
the this is the step towards which is the whole
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point of the debate just now. This is the first
step to athletes being paid by the universities and then
and then debate about whether they're going to be employees.
So there's a lot happening. And I get my point,
which I'm not making very well, is it's all about money, right.
It's a money grab because the schools know that they're
the schools have had it all their own way. They're
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being able to take the money in, they being able
to do what they get there, They get their employment
for free, they pay a head coaches handsomely. Now they're
having to share that with the student athletes, right, And
there's going to be knock on effects across across schools nationally.
But never fear because the President of the United States
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has decreed that it's going to be sorted. And I
didn't mean to make all the choke again. But I'm
afraid this is this is clearly of the end for Oliver.
A presidential Collegiate Sports Commission as the answer, headed up
by next Saban and Texas TECHS Cody Campbell. Why why
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are we even debating this? It's all been sorted.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Next next segment. I think we can all agree that
right if there is going to be some sort of
non NC double a over seeing of college football, there
probably isn't a better man to do it. And Texas
Tech are in a really good spot right now, and
a lot of the stuff that they're doing around the
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football program is in a very good good spot. So
two very influential, powerful, respective people.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
If you were going to have some sort of presidential
what was it called to the Asidentual.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Committee Sports Commission?
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Great? Everything that Donald Trump does is incredible. Please can't
have my Twitter account back?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Remember remember he's listening.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
Nice Seriously, if this was to be a thing, you
could ask for a better person with more wisdom We've
seen in the past, see in the past years since
the Saban left Alabama, he's everyone knows what a great
coach is. There's absolutely no doubt about that. His records
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sped for himself. Alex will testify to the books he
has on coaching, philosophy, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
I think we've seen him the last year like a
side of Nick Saban that you probably haven't seen before,
and that side is awesome as well. Like his ability
to relate to whatever audience, you know, college game audience
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on a Saturday at New Eastern and whenever he is
talking about college football on whatever program it might be,
to whatever audience it might be. He's got such a
such a great way of communicating and for a role
like that is incredibly important. And there's a lot of
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things that combine to make Nick Saban just the perfect.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Big ahead of whatever it is.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
That Commission will attempt attempt to achieve under the guidance
of President Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Please have my Twitter account back.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
I mean, I'll talk to say Drey. We've talked long
and weary about the need for our college football star
right now. The thing is you can't just self appoint
a star. And we've seen what college shootball has done
so far in terms to get its own house in order.
So if you could to have a body to replace
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replace the n C but to be there as the
NCAA starts to, you know, disappete off the scene, it
kind of needs something like this. It kind of needs
a hire body to say, listen, this is how it's
going to work.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Now.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
I don't know whether you know people will accept our
schools will accept it, but it feels like you need
to have some I'm saying there's some divine intervention.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Involved. He's a Northwestern farmer for the longest time.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Then, like the n C in all seriousness, the n
C double A is wanted to be the vast turn
of leadership college football. They wanted to dictate all the power,
but they haven't ever wanted to provide solutions. Will be
a part of or involved in providing a solution. So
if there is now something whatever that may look like,
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led by whoever it may be led by, that provides
the solutions and provides leadership guidance with that just wanting
to be seen as powerful, and I think that that's
to be celebrated, right.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
I think so. I think so we haven't left nearly
enough time to talk about this, but we'll try and
just slip in. You talked about college game Day. I
guess inevitable, but sad nonetheless that Lee Corsos and out
his retirement. He will make his final appearance Week one,
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which I'll be amazed if that isn't the Texas Ohio
State game. But we'll wait and see. Well, I mean,
we don't have enough if we were in a full episode,
we wouldn't have enough time to talk about how much
Lee Corsos impacted football. But I wonder if and the
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coliments we've got remaining, we're going to talk about how
Leek Corsal might have impacted your love of college shoot
ball or you're watching of the college game.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
Yeah, I mean I think when you have these big
personalities and yeah, they are just a beloved figure. You
can tell that everyone who's worked in and around college game,
everyone who's worked in and around the sport loves league.
Also they love the man that they love the the person,
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not the persona. Everyone loves the persona as well, but
everyone loved the person. Everyone loves the person. And I
think it's really really important for sports to have that
big persona there, that person that they can rely on to,
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you know, come out and make a big difference and
really push the game forward with what they're trying to do,
and I think Leak also has one done that. Yeah,
there's not a bad word said about him anywhere, And
you need people like that in your sport. You need
people like that in the world to keep it where
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we want it to be. So yeah, from from that perspective,
I think it's a deserved retirement, right He He's putting
a lot of work over the last few years to
help grow this game to the level is at right now,
and I don't think the game of college football would
be where it's at without him. And I think that's
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a big spot to be in for him and the
person that's going to come up and take his spot,
and it will have to be a different type of
persona and a different type of person to kind of
fill that role. But yeah, I think it's going to
be interesting to see what what game day looks like
without him next year.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Yeah, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
I think it's one of those excuse me, I've got
hate fee I'm not over the emotional the I think
it's one of those things, and I think we've talked
about it multiple times on this show over the years.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Is you excuse me?
Speaker 6 (31:35):
You're often tune in sports whether sport. It might be
whether it's a Saturday or Sunday or a Wednesday night
Champions League match.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
You're often tuned in sport to.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
Take away or escape from what might have been the
reality of a hard week or a hard day, or
a hard month or whatever like that. And when you
tune into sport, you want to be surrounded by the
people the personalities that you can find comforting to a degree.
And I think nothing more in recent years is more
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comforting as a college football fan and turning on college
game day at nine am Eastern. I think I said
New and Eastern the other day earlier in this podcast
for college game based ot time, and of course nine
am Eastern. I don't think there's been much more comforting
things than turning on college game day as a college
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football fan and been met by League also and awaiting,
you know, Corso's mascot headgear choice.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
At the end of the game. And I think seeing
the like the law and.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
The respect that anyone who ever encounters League also, whoever
steps onto that stage, whoever that guess may be, that
I think that is the ultimate, the ultimate kind of
I don't know, I can't think of the right words
to describe it, but it's the ultimate sign of respect
(33:14):
and the Lord than the comfort that the league also
has brought to it to college football. I think a
lot of people would say that it's probably been time
for the coach course, so to have maybe not been
on that stage for maybe a season or two n
you know, he has had his ups and downs with
health is kind of as a as a college football community,
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almost watched him deteriorate in front of our very eyes,
and that's that's not easy to watch.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
But also, like I say that there's that comfort in
knowing that he was going to be there.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
But yeah, I think the retirement maybe the end of
the season had be a better time than Week one.
But like you say, it very much seems like ESPN
is destined for Columbus and to the Horseshoe Ohio State
Texas game, and they probably weren't made better game for
him to have to send off than than that game,
unless it was unless it was a blooming who's using
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a great team again this season, and then he got
a hometown to send up, that would be pretty pretty special.
But I think that the whole show will be there regardless.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
He's got he's got very strong ties with Buckeyes, hasn't
he in terms of his He's picking record and stuff
like that. So yeah, exactly, it would feel like kind
of Bill Circle moment. And I think you're you're, You're
both absolutely spot on. He almost became the grandfather of
college football, right and and therefore it's quite difficult to
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to say goodbye to that for him his perspective and
for her perspective. And I think I don't know how
it would have ended, you know, I'm sure, I'm sure
as much as Lee Corso. As Lee Corso, I think
he's very much He doesn't the old need to be
at the center of attention. So I guess the National
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Championship game, if that was his last game, then he
would probably feel that wasn't the way to go out.
So at least with Week one, with some razzermattacks, you'll
with Texas coming to town, that probably does feel the
right time, I say, from my perspective, and Fay, similar
to what you said, Olie. And when you watch a
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lot of pregame shows, postgame shows, they're all very serious
of making a point about stuff. Courso brings in a reverence,
But by jove, when you look at his picking record.
He clearly clearly knows what he's doing right, So you
can have that reverence, you can come out dressed as
James Madison, but you can also get the pick spot on.
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So I think that's what people really admire about him,
is that he's a very very good pundit. But he
adds that spark which draws people in. I mean, just
look at the crowds that Game Day attracts. You're not
telling me that, you know, the course isn't a huge
part of that, the growth of that program. So it'll
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be sorry to see him go. But Alex is right,
what a career or so. But we'll touch on this
again in not so many weeks on Mon's time, when
we get back to the start of the season, and
we'll run over a little bit at my fault. That's
all from us on this episode. Thanks to Anton Deck
for their awesome input, Thanks to you for listening, and
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thanks for conteining to support us. Stay safe for me
out and catch you'll next time.
I'm not going to comment on that.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'll get fined for the rest of my life if
I get comment on that.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Natural chap that young girls.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Everyone, and welcome to the College Chaps podcast. It's been
a few weeks since we last sat around the mic,
meaning there's a lot of college shop all news to
catch up on. So in this episode we're going to
have a really good leader about what on earth has
been happening since we last spoke. Spoiler alert, A lot
has been happening. But first we the Chaps. I'm George
and I'm joined by the duo who have done to
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college sho podcasting? What in deck have done to Saturday
night prime time entertainment? Yes, it's Ollie and Alex. How
are you both?
Speaker 4 (00:59):
I'm just wondering one of those which one of us.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
That's that's for you to decide. I'm not going to
get into that debate.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Nice it is a bleather in the intro. I really
appreciated that, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Alex has got haircut? Happy haircut Alex.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Yeah, I had a haircut, won a national championship. Been
been a good, good couple of months since I've been
on right. So yeah, I've not no, no, no, I've not
made any any games in the the gym department.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Oh no, I was just saying. I was just saying.
I was just a very subtle flax.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I really was big flex to be honest. Always got
a new house where we're now seeing. This is your
debut of the Chateau Hodgkinson. So we're now seeing if
you're on YouTube. If you're not on YouTube, Bell you're
missing out. Frankly happy pace moving in all.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
Over my Navy football inspired blind shout out to the
Navy midshipman.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Albust On brad So alex as the national champion. You've
got a new mansion. It's what happened. And this podcasting
monarchy must be working out for something.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Oie also got banned from Twitter, which is.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
We meant to talk about it, but that that that
was that was that was second behind Bilbert Belichick, But
we meant to talk about that. I don't know, is
that detrimental to your appeal, Oliver if we start talking.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
About I think band makes it sound so much worse.
But then again, like my suspendency, it's pretty bad as well.
And I guess talking about Elms and year pretty same
year and how Nasi propagame. They eventually, I guess it's
what's happened.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
We we we we should, we should learned from pastics pearce.
We have no idea who's loss to us? Podcast? That's
all I can say. No yourself, time to move on.
I believe I mentioned Bill Belichick and it seems an
appropriate place to start, like Bill joined the rest of
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the circus. I don't know, I've kind of lost for
words with this last year. The University of North Carolina
just seemed of me. It's obviously a very auspicious university.
It's a great place to go to school. It's got
such an incredible history. You know, most recently, Matt Brown
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was the head coach. You know what I mean? You know,
Mac Brown will be in the College Football Hall of Fame,
no problem at all, and in a space of weeks.
And I don't believe it, I would ever think of
we're using Bill Belichick and circus and the same. It
isn't a complete nonsense. I'm missing something.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Look, Belichick had the best quarterback of all time in
the NFL, so we're still actually this sounds so weird
to say, but he's still actually a little bit unproven
as a coach because you look at his record without
the best quarterback in the NFL, and you know he's
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got very little to know history in the college game.
So it's not really the most auspicious of starts, is
it your college coaching career? And look, there's obviously so
many media circuses that go on now in college football,
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with nil, with the transfer portal, with half of the
Georgia team getting arrested for DUI's just so much chaos.
Is such a big fan fair, such a circus around
everything that goes on?
Speaker 4 (04:56):
This doesn't actually.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Feel that out of place.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I guess it. I guess it doesn't really to be better.
And it's hard to expect. It's hard to anticipate anything
that's going to happen in college football. But I guess Bill,
is this good for Bill Belichick?
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Oliver?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I mean, you're you're closer to this than any of
us because New England are your team, so you've benefited
from I guess the Tom Brady experiment Alex alluded to.
But it's this, Is this good in terms of Belichick's personality,
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media brand, whatever? Again, I guess that's what it's what
we're leading to a bit.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
You're were to say I'm close to the situation because
I've got a younger girlfriend.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
That's a very.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
Difference between myself and Emily. Is nowhere difference between Bill
and Jordan Glad.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I'm glad. I'm really glad to hear that, to be honest.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
Forty one So that's sort of age would be problematic,
I think more so than getting suspended from Twitter.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
But what.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
Look, let's get back to college football.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
If you remove the media, I always.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
The situation, and if you remove the media circus around
Bill Belichick and.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Jordian Hudson and.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
Various different things that have happened, reports have been out there,
counter reports and whatnot.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I think what you strip.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
Away from the all of that and look at how
Bill Belichick fits into the college football arena in the
pantheon of what we've seen across the sport. We talked
about Mac Brown and North the sport is very rapidly
becoming not an older coach's game, not a not a
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traditional coaches game because.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Of all the things that.
Speaker 6 (07:15):
We've discussed in multiple episodes over the past twelve, eighteen,
twenty four months. Whatever it is where all the coaches
don't want to be involved.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
In the nil element that are.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
Becoming tired of what that entails. In the recruiting element
of college football, that for a lot of coaches has
historically been the real joy of coaching college football is
going in and recruiting those athletes.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
You know, we've heard.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
Coaches like Nick Saban talk about their experience going into
a family's home and recruiting their son to play college
football at the University of wherever. That's been a joyful
part of the game. And for a lot of the
older coaches that stopped being a joy for the game.
So I think for you know, we said Jeff Halfway
(08:04):
and multiple the head college football coaches jumped to positional
roles in the NFL because of this exact thing.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
And so for Bill Belichick, a guy who you know,
I couldn't even.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
Tell you off the top of the head how old
Bill is, but you know he was retired as an
NFL coach to come back into the college game is
it was I think an eyebrow raising moved for him
at the time. And now he's surrounded by this whole
circus of a younger person with with Jordan Hudson and
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whatever that is bringing and it brings to mind, you know,
the sort of cringing videos of Brian Kelly gyrating on
a rotating disc with a top recruit, like there's rapidly
becoming not an older coach's game. I think a lot
of people can will appreciate that, and I think that's
(09:02):
the crux of the issue really, I think for North
Carolina this season and moving forward, is is that more
so than the media circause. Yeah, that's suboptimal for a
program that traditionally isn't you know, surrounded by the drama
that Alex alluded to with programs like Georgia and some
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of you know, some of the other other programs that
are historically in the media for all the wrong reasons. Yeah,
I think that's the I think that's the big thing where.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
That's an interesting one And so far as you know,
if you look at Bill Chick's standing in the same
way that you know Zaban Matt Brown, Dad was swingty whatever,
I could see look at the number of players I've
guided to the NFL, Come join my program. I'll get
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you into the NFL. Bilchick could swing it the other
way and see, well, listening to exactly what it takes
to be in the NFL, so come to me, And
so I kind of see the the recruiting angle a
slightly different way to the Brian Kelly thing, because you know,
we all all kind have made fun of Brian Kelly.
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But what he's trying to do is he's trying to
fit into that kind of modern world of recruiting where
you know, you just have to be a parody of
yourself to you know, do what it takes to get
the recruit. So I can see where, but I mean,
I don't I don't know how close he is to
the story. Pablotry is as obviously, you know, run the
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story and is making a name for himself. I know
he's a he's a big name ESPN anyway, But I
think to myself, he said recently that Bill Belichick might
not even coach a game at you and see such
as the kind of earthquake that's happening at the school
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just now. I mean, that would just be a terrible
look for all parties, wouldn't it.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
No, No, for me, it would be, But it also
would be quite a heartwarming thing, a trusting thing if
you're a UNC fan.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
All right.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
What's worse is if you let this circus go on
all year, because that becomes a lot harder to recover
from if they turn around tomorrow and go, yeah, we
don't like this, we don't like the girlfriend having as
much influence as this, We don't like the way this
has gone about. It goes against the values of our school. Yeah,
(11:41):
they probably get short term, but I think long term
they're better off for it. So, yeah, they have to
decide what part of the ride they want to go on.
You don't have success without some sort of craziness attached
to it, especially in this day and age, with nil
(12:02):
and everything else that goes with being successful in college football.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
I think as well, where that.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
Reporting is concerned, there's a little bit of gasoline on
the fire with that because obviously, when bellow Chip was
first announced to UNC, there was all the for raw
over his contract and the fact that there was a
clause in there which was essentially how much he would
get paid if he never coached a game on Chapel Hill.
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And obviously now a report comes out saying, you know,
or you might not make it to the season. We're
getting very close to the day. To think of the
junior first that was reported as that contractual day where
if Bill Belichick was no longer with the North Carolina
Tar Hills, there'd.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Be a certain change.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
In the evaluation and his contract there. So I think
with that there's a lot of I guess there's a
lot of smoke and a lot of fire and a
lot of intrigue when a report like that comes out
that kind of concurs with.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Things that were being discussed when it was first hired.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Enough of Nobili chick, Let's move on to another story. Actually,
I mean, there's been so many that have come about
over the last couple of weeks, but let's talk about
the most The Ellinger ran the story about the potential
of the expansion for a college football playoff. What do
you guys think about that? Moving to sixteen? That just
feels to me like a big move straight away? What
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do you think?
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Well, I mean, theorestically, it's not a big move.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
If you go from we went from four to twelve,
twelve to sixteen, not a significant as you know, a
significant elite in some respects. It evens up a format
so that you go sixty to eighty four to winner.
I guess presumably that's what they would do with that
(14:08):
rather than having this un even number of the visible
teams that results in a first round by and things
like that. Presumably a sixteen team tournament would have a
straightforward four round element to it. I guess so I
don't think it's that big a leap in terms of
the number. I think it's been something that's been discussed before.
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Who really gets my go is the the also bid situation. Well,
we've just had a twelve team. People for expanding from
four to twelve was going to be ludicrous and ruined
the value of the sport and ruined the spectacle. We're
just coming off one of the best college football seasons.
I think bands analysts, people who work in college football,
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people who are around this sport, I think can agree
that we just had one of the most memorable college
football season, one of the greatest college fo seasons, which
seemed for a long time. So obviously the number of
playoff teams didn't dilute the product as people thought it
might do. I think what will dilute the product if
it goes to the sixty team playoffs. It's same before
the season, four SEC teams, four Big ten teams, three
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ACC teams, whatever. The rest of the numbers are as
they go down, are guaranteed to get into the College
Football Playoff. I think it's wrong on a lot of
a lot of levels. And I appreciate that we have
people who listen to this podcast who are close to
some of the conferences that I've just mentioned, some of
them closer than others. But in my opinion, having auto
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bids to the College Football Playoff for any conference before
a football has been thrown, run, tackled, football kicked, punted, spiked.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Is wrong. In my opinion. It just is. It just is.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
And some of the nuances within that that are being
discussed with certain conferences, like having a playing game for
I think the ACC discussed having like a playing game
to decide who's their third team will be that represents
them in the College Football Playoff.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
No, no, thank you.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
That's that's for me. It's against everything that college football
stands for. I think it dilutes the spectacle of the sport.
I think it ruins the sport a number of levels
at a time where I don't think college football can
afford to be ruined, especially as you, as you say,
you're coming off a season where it defied preseason assumptions
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about what an expanded playoff may look like. Let's not
try and and make it so that people are even
less enamored with the process of how we side who
plays for a national championship.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Yeah, I mean I tend to agree with you, Olie.
I think that you know, the more you set in
stone before the start of the year, the less there
are for interesting stories coming through. I think there are
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a lot of really good underdog stories that could come
out from this. And with what we've seen is you
don't have to have great stories in the first round, right,
you can, you can have some blowout matches. But if
it allows for great stories to happen throughout the year,
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right if a mid major or a group of five
team makes a fairy tale run, they go undefeated, and
they get in and they get blown out out in
the week game one of the playoffs, doesn't matter because
they've had that story to get there. Where your stories
come in your your final fours and in your championship games.
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So there's a lot that has to come from the
the stories in the regular season. The minute you sort
of say you know, X number of teams get in
and yeah, it's four sec teams SEC title becomes meaningless.
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At that point, might as well get rid of.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
The championship game.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Because those teams are in and it will be based
on their their ranking. And you also have the opportunity
or the potential. And this this happens in other sports.
We're just coming off the men's volleyball National Championship game
in in a last night. They have a ten team
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tournament and there's lots of auto bids into that and
two at large. Only two at large bids in a
ten team tournament, and that meant that number six ranked
USC didn't get into the tournament and an unranked conference
champion did and there were no not really any good
games in the tournament because quite a few of the
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best teams were left out. I like the idea of
some auto bids, especially with lower down conferences, to make
them worth and make sure those athletes don't get lost
and those teams don't get lost. But I do think
you need to have the best teams, the best sixteen
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teams based on ranking based on achievements throughout the year,
not based on the conference that they play in.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I mean, if there's any other conference outside the SEC
and the Big ten I'd be really worried about this
move because this is the first step towards super conferences, right,
and arguably Rorady got them, But to have eight teams
who automatic qualify, and I think we saw I know
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both of you have made this very valid point. I
think we saw last year the benefit of teams coming
in on their on their ranking. Yeah, there was there
was a couple of blowout games, but then you saw
the rise of Arizona State, which was arguably arguably the
best story in that college football playoff, and I would
want to see more of that as far. I'd want
to see more of that and unless of teams automatically
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you're qualifying and then then just get knocked out in
the first the first round, right, I mean also take
a point like also, not only does it get away
with the conference championship games, I think it starts to
make a walkery of the the rankings, right, because then
what we're going to do. I think teams can, particularly
if you've got four teams from a conference, teams can
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manage and manipulate the way through the conference schedule and
arguably doing that anyway. But I just shook my head
when I saw I think we all knew it was coming, right,
And I don't think it'll stop at sixteen. I think
it'll I think it will move beyond that. But I
just the game is moving so far away from the game.
I think we all fell in love with and we're
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not the longest tenured watch as a college ship or
I think people who have spent their life watching collegehip
all must be pretty disillusioned by these moves.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
I would have thought, Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
And I think you know, we've seen that in the
last couple of years of the disillusionment within fan bases
on a number of number of levels. With the current
college football climate, you know, fans being asked to extra
of the season tickets to play for.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
D I L money and things like that.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
You mentioned power conferences there, I wonder a little bit
of excuse me, I wonder a little bit of allowing
SEC in the Big Ten. The largest slice of the
college football playoff pie is a move to try.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
And prevent.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
Those two conferences from split it off completely and having
their own little pro season party and trying to almost
keep college football together in a way well, in a
way that.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Is kind of done wrong. I guess from from most
people's perspective.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I mean to can move seamlessly onto the next segment.
We've obviously got getting closer to the House settlement coming
to fruition, and we all know that there's money that's
that's going to be paid out student athletes. This is
the this is the step towards which is the whole
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point of the debate just now. This is the first
step to athletes being paid by the universities and then
and then debate about whether they're going to be employees.
So there's a lot happening. And I get my point,
which I'm not making very well, is it's all about money, right.
It's a money grab because the schools know that they're
the schools have had it all their own way. They're
(23:28):
being able to take the money in, they being able
to do what they get there, They get their employment
for free, they pay a head coaches handsomely. Now they're
having to share that with the student athletes, right, And
there's going to be knock on effects across across schools nationally.
But never fear because the President of the United States
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has decreed that it's going to be sorted. And I
didn't mean to make all the choke again. But I'm
afraid this is this is clearly of the end for Oliver.
A presidential Collegiate Sports Commission as the answer, headed up
by next Saban and Texas TECHS Cody Campbell. Why why
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are we even debating this? It's all been sorted.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Next next segment. I think we can all agree that
right if there is going to be some sort of
non NC double a over seeing of college football, there
probably isn't a better man to do it. And Texas
Tech are in a really good spot right now, and
a lot of the stuff that they're doing around the
(24:44):
football program is in a very good good spot. So
two very influential, powerful, respective people.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
If you were going to have some sort of presidential
what was it called to the Asidentual.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Committee Sports Commission?
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Great? Everything that Donald Trump does is incredible. Please can't
have my Twitter account back?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Remember remember he's listening.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
Nice Seriously, if this was to be a thing, you
could ask for a better person with more wisdom We've
seen in the past, see in the past years since
the Saban left Alabama, he's everyone knows what a great
coach is. There's absolutely no doubt about that. His records
(25:34):
sped for himself. Alex will testify to the books he
has on coaching, philosophy, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
I think we've seen him the last year like a
side of Nick Saban that you probably haven't seen before,
and that side is awesome as well. Like his ability
to relate to whatever audience, you know, college game audience
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on a Saturday at New Eastern and whenever he is
talking about college football on whatever program it might be,
to whatever audience it might be. He's got such a
such a great way of communicating and for a role
like that is incredibly important. And there's a lot of
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things that combine to make Nick Saban just the perfect.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Big ahead of whatever it is.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
That Commission will attempt attempt to achieve under the guidance
of President Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Please have my Twitter account back.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
I mean, I'll talk to say Drey. We've talked long
and weary about the need for our college football star
right now. The thing is you can't just self appoint
a star. And we've seen what college shootball has done
so far in terms to get its own house in order.
So if you could to have a body to replace
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replace the n C but to be there as the
NCAA starts to, you know, disappete off the scene, it
kind of needs something like this. It kind of needs
a hire body to say, listen, this is how it's
going to work.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Now.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
I don't know whether you know people will accept our
schools will accept it, but it feels like you need
to have some I'm saying there's some divine intervention.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Involved. He's a Northwestern farmer for the longest time.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Then, like the n C in all seriousness, the n
C double A is wanted to be the vast turn
of leadership college football. They wanted to dictate all the power,
but they haven't ever wanted to provide solutions. Will be
a part of or involved in providing a solution. So
if there is now something whatever that may look like,
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led by whoever it may be led by, that provides
the solutions and provides leadership guidance with that just wanting
to be seen as powerful, and I think that that's
to be celebrated, right.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
I think so. I think so we haven't left nearly
enough time to talk about this, but we'll try and
just slip in. You talked about college game Day. I
guess inevitable, but sad nonetheless that Lee Corsos and out
his retirement. He will make his final appearance Week one,
(28:38):
which I'll be amazed if that isn't the Texas Ohio
State game. But we'll wait and see. Well, I mean,
we don't have enough if we were in a full episode,
we wouldn't have enough time to talk about how much
Lee Corsos impacted football. But I wonder if and the
(29:01):
coliments we've got remaining, we're going to talk about how
Leek Corsal might have impacted your love of college shoot
ball or you're watching of the college game.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
Yeah, I mean I think when you have these big
personalities and yeah, they are just a beloved figure. You
can tell that everyone who's worked in and around college game,
everyone who's worked in and around the sport loves league.
Also they love the man that they love the the person,
(29:38):
not the persona. Everyone loves the persona as well, but
everyone loved the person. Everyone loves the person. And I
think it's really really important for sports to have that
big persona there, that person that they can rely on to,
(29:59):
you know, come out and make a big difference and
really push the game forward with what they're trying to do,
and I think Leak also has one done that. Yeah,
there's not a bad word said about him anywhere, And
you need people like that in your sport. You need
people like that in the world to keep it where
(30:21):
we want it to be. So yeah, from from that perspective,
I think it's a deserved retirement, right He He's putting
a lot of work over the last few years to
help grow this game to the level is at right now,
and I don't think the game of college football would
be where it's at without him. And I think that's
(30:45):
a big spot to be in for him and the
person that's going to come up and take his spot,
and it will have to be a different type of
persona and a different type of person to kind of
fill that role. But yeah, I think it's going to
be interesting to see what what game day looks like
without him next year.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Yeah, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
I think it's one of those excuse me, I've got
hate fee I'm not over the emotional the I think
it's one of those things, and I think we've talked
about it multiple times on this show over the years.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Is you excuse me?
Speaker 6 (31:35):
You're often tune in sports whether sport. It might be
whether it's a Saturday or Sunday or a Wednesday night
Champions League match.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
You're often tuned in sport to.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
Take away or escape from what might have been the
reality of a hard week or a hard day, or
a hard month or whatever like that. And when you
tune into sport, you want to be surrounded by the
people the personalities that you can find comforting to a degree.
And I think nothing more in recent years is more
(32:13):
comforting as a college football fan and turning on college
game day at nine am Eastern. I think I said
New and Eastern the other day earlier in this podcast
for college game based ot time, and of course nine
am Eastern. I don't think there's been much more comforting
things than turning on college game day as a college
(32:34):
football fan and been met by League also and awaiting,
you know, Corso's mascot headgear choice.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
At the end of the game. And I think seeing
the like the law and.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
The respect that anyone who ever encounters League also, whoever
steps onto that stage, whoever that guess may be, that
I think that is the ultimate, the ultimate kind of
I don't know, I can't think of the right words
to describe it, but it's the ultimate sign of respect
(33:14):
and the Lord than the comfort that the league also
has brought to it to college football. I think a
lot of people would say that it's probably been time
for the coach course, so to have maybe not been
on that stage for maybe a season or two n
you know, he has had his ups and downs with
health is kind of as a as a college football community,
(33:35):
almost watched him deteriorate in front of our very eyes,
and that's that's not easy to watch.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
But also, like I say that there's that comfort in
knowing that he was going to be there.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
But yeah, I think the retirement maybe the end of
the season had be a better time than Week one.
But like you say, it very much seems like ESPN
is destined for Columbus and to the Horseshoe Ohio State
Texas game, and they probably weren't made better game for
him to have to send off than than that game,
unless it was unless it was a blooming who's using
(34:11):
a great team again this season, and then he got
a hometown to send up, that would be pretty pretty special.
But I think that the whole show will be there regardless.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
He's got he's got very strong ties with Buckeyes, hasn't
he in terms of his He's picking record and stuff
like that. So yeah, exactly, it would feel like kind
of Bill Circle moment. And I think you're you're, You're
both absolutely spot on. He almost became the grandfather of
college football, right and and therefore it's quite difficult to
(34:40):
to say goodbye to that for him his perspective and
for her perspective. And I think I don't know how
it would have ended, you know, I'm sure, I'm sure
as much as Lee Corso. As Lee Corso, I think
he's very much He doesn't the old need to be
at the center of attention. So I guess the National
(35:00):
Championship game, if that was his last game, then he
would probably feel that wasn't the way to go out.
So at least with Week one, with some razzermattacks, you'll
with Texas coming to town, that probably does feel the
right time, I say, from my perspective, and Fay, similar
to what you said, Olie. And when you watch a
(35:23):
lot of pregame shows, postgame shows, they're all very serious
of making a point about stuff. Courso brings in a reverence,
But by jove, when you look at his picking record.
He clearly clearly knows what he's doing right, So you
can have that reverence, you can come out dressed as
James Madison, but you can also get the pick spot on.
(35:45):
So I think that's what people really admire about him,
is that he's a very very good pundit. But he
adds that spark which draws people in. I mean, just
look at the crowds that Game Day attracts. You're not
telling me that, you know, the course isn't a huge
part of that, the growth of that program. So it'll
(36:07):
be sorry to see him go. But Alex is right,
what a career or so. But we'll touch on this
again in not so many weeks on Mon's time, when
we get back to the start of the season, and
we'll run over a little bit at my fault. That's
all from us on this episode. Thanks to Anton Deck
for their awesome input, Thanks to you for listening, and
(36:29):
thanks for conteining to support us. Stay safe for me
out and catch you'll next time.
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