August 5, 2025 • 31 mins
Episode #219 with The Film Guy, Brooks Austin
On this episode The Chaps catch up with The Film Guy, Brooks Austin to talk about recruting across college football. On this episode we discuss,
On this episode The Chaps catch up with The Film Guy, Brooks Austin to talk about recruting across college football. On this episode we discuss,
- The impact roster caps proposed under revenue sharing and the house settlement bill will have on “walk on” players
- the decline in recruitment of JUCO players as a result of the numbers of players entering the transfer portal
- How recruitment is evolving as the college game goes though unprecedented change
- The job Kirby Smart and the coaching staff are doing with recruiting in Athens.
- QB's flying under the radar in preseason chat
- With an unkind schedule and QB DJ Lagway struggling with injury, what does the season look like for Billy Napier and the Gators?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm not going to comment on that.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'll get fine for the rest of my life if
I get comment on that natural championship.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
That's young girls.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Hey everyone, and welcome to the College Chaps podcast. On
this episode, we're going to delve into the fascinating but
sometimes murky world of recruiting with our guests. But to
be clear, our guests, there's no way murky. But first
we are the College Chaps and I'm joined by the
incredibly talented and arguably the best sports writer in the
Derbyshire Dales area, Oliver. How are you my friend?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
That's that I say this. I feel like every like show,
every podcast I ever go on, I always think that's
the best introlution that I've had this season, and were
not even have a season. I don't think it's going
to get better than that. George, that was the you
can tell you come in to visit me this weekend.
You clearly want me to buy a buy a pint
with that. Looking forward to that, let's do three weeks
(01:13):
still college football. So I'm awesome. I'm very excited for
this twenty twenty five season. I'm very excited for the
guests we've got today, and yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Indeed, we are incredibly fortunate to have the best guests
on this podcast, and luckily we don't have to wait
so long to have them come on until now. The
only guest we've been waiting longer for to come on
the show is Paul finebaumb and we're still waiting for
mister fine Bomb. So we are excited to have our
guests make it onto the show today. He is known
as the Film Guy and if you haven't checked out,
(01:43):
it's incredibly popular YouTube channel, the Film Guy Network. I
suggest you do before YouTube explodes with all his followers.
He is also the sharpest dress our SEC media days.
So it's a pleasure to welcome Brooks Austin onto the podcast.
Brooks High, how are you?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I'm good, but God a quick question. Like every every
non American voice that we hear, it's like auditorially pleasing.
So you folks over across the pod, you hear this redneck,
this American accent. Is it pleasing to your ear like
the foreign voice is to ours? Or is it like
I gotta hear this crap for the next forty minutes?
(02:19):
What is it?
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
I don't know if we would do this on such
a regular basis, if we if we really hated the accent. No, no,
it's great to I mean created for wrong, Olie. I
don't think we've we might have only had one guest
from this side of the Atlantic on the podcast. Every
guest we have is from America.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Is that correct?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah, I think so. I think so.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I don't think yeah, auditortally pleasing.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yeah, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I'm gonna.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
I'm gonna maneuver that into the into the introduction, right,
and we do. We've got a limited time, and we
do want to talk to you about some really important
stuff because, to my mind, where I listen to you
on the YouTube channel, but also when I get to
see you in personal media days, you are in the
(03:11):
midst of recruiting in the South, and you talk a
lot about that. But there's a couple of really pressing
issues that the game is about to face, or is facing.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Just now.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Let's start with roster caps books, because I know that
there's something you're quite passionate about. The roster caps that
are going to come in are essentially I'm going to
I'm going to generalize here, but they're essentially going to
push the walk on out of the picture. Right, The caps,
which will be one hundred and five, will be fully
(03:43):
funded scholarships, so there actually is no room for a
walk on as such. What are your what are your
thoughts on that? First of all? But what do you
then think would be the impact on the game going forward?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
So honestly, I obviously it's a it's a sad thing
that the idea of the walk on story might be
removed from particularly our side of the business. I think
the idea of telling the story of a walk on
who ultimately became a starter at a really big program
and then went on to win or have a great
lecture's career is a great story in college football. I
think Stetson Bennett and the story there at the University
(04:18):
of Georgia was one of the best true original stories.
It's almost like a movie, it seems like. However, that
being said, I think something needed to be done for
the lesser levels of college football. Right. We all love
power for football, we all talk about it, we all
watch it. But there are one hundred and ninety two
hundred and fifty three hundred college football programs in Division
(04:39):
one Double A and mid major in Division two and
Division three and NAI that are all across this country
that were having their rosters depleted because NIL walk ons
were a thing now all right, So you could be
a borderline football player that was like a Coastal Carolina
good football player in twenty nineteen, you were going to
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co store, right, you were feeding that roster. Well nowadays
because of NIL, those quote unquote walk ons could have
their scholarships paid for them a right at these schools
via NIL. So they're not having to pay tuition, they're
not labeled as a scholarship player, but they're not having
to pay for anything because they're an NIL walk on.
This was happening at nauseum throughout the SEC. Look. I
(05:21):
think Dan Jackson's a great story, but something had to
be done for the Memphisis of the world. Something had
to be done for the app States of the world.
They were having their rosters pillage by these Division one SEC,
Power five, Big ten schools. As soon as they had
a good player, they'd steal them from them. And then
they were stealing the walk ons in high school. It
was just left and right. The lesser levels of this
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sport were getting pillaged in this country, and I think
it's a good thing. Honestly, it sucks for the walk
on story, but I think it's good that Mackai Muse,
who is the best wide receiver at Houston right now,
should have been at Houston coming out of high school,
but instead he walked on at Georgia because they were
able to pay this to that stuff had to stop.
And I think it's good for these lesser levels of football.
(06:04):
I guarantee you did not expect that answer.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
I did not expect that answer, And actually it goes,
it goes in complete opposite to what kirkpy thinks about it,
for all the reasons that you have just outlined.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Right then, of.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Course, if he can have it right, yeah, if he
can have all the Division one caliber players, if he
can have two hundred guys on his roster, he would
it behooves him to steal every talented football player that
there is and get him on his roster. Behooves all
those Power five coaches. But it don't help the coach
at Furman who's coaching for his life. It don't help
the coach at Georgia Southern right who's trying to get
(06:38):
back out Clay Hilton. It doesn't help those guys. So
I think this is a good like balancing of the
player acquisition strategies all around the sport man.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
And we'll go on a little because all he's going
to open up this this this whole issue a bit further.
But do you think then there's room for everybody, there's
room for all of these players to maneuver about college football,
because that's what part of the issue is. Part of
the issue is that when the transfer portal opens up,
you've got thousands of players into the portal.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah, also think that we're moving away from the COVID
additional years, right. I think what really jacked this sport
up was we created a backlog of football players that
are trying to play at schools that have limited number
of roster positions. Right when you basically say if you
were on a roster in twenty twenty, it doesn't count.
(07:29):
If you want it, you can get it. We've got
guys that are twenty six, twenty seven years old. It
seems like playing college football that's way too many opportunities
when we don't have that many roster spots. Right, you
got one hundred and fifty guys available to play, and
only one hundred and twenty able to make the team.
So you got this backlog of football players. It was
(07:49):
so obvious that it was going to happen. The moment
Charlie Baker decided the easiest decision was the right decision.
The easiest decision when COVID happened was to say, none
of this counts. Everybody gets to play for free. But
what he didn't realize was you just pushed an entire
group of bodies down an entire year. So what happens
when those high school kids get to come up. You
(08:10):
didn't give everybody an extra year of high school eligibility.
So we created this backlog of college football players that
I think are starting to finally trickle out now and
we're starting to get back to normal sanity with regards
of how long you're able to play college football. I'm
a six to play four guy. I believe in it sternly. Okay,
(08:30):
you get one year to red shirt, you get one
year to medically red shirt if an injury cost you
your entire year. But this idea of seven eight year
seniors miss me. With that, man, you're costing opportunities for
young high school football players, in my opinion, and.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
It's not just a high school level either, is it.
Let's talk about the JUK level, because, in addition to
what we've just discussed about the COVID year, the changes
in eligibility require emmons the transfer paul as well playing
such a big part now with roster construction at the
DUCO level, which was always a consistent pipeline, especially in
(09:10):
the state of Mississippi, that is starting to change, right
And you talked to Msissippi head coach Jeff Levy about
this twelve months ago. Talk to me a little bit
about the JUCO landscape, how that's changing the importance of it,
and how damaging these changes in college football. And I
(09:30):
guess the lineage of college football is to the DUC level.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
It's really like the secondary opportunities, right. So JUCO is
your last ditched effort. JUCO is your last chance. That's
why it was called Last Chance You on Netflix. For
most people outside of this region of the country, that's
their only connection point to what junior college football is.
But I'm gonna tell you right now, junior college football
is located in two regions of this country, Mississippi and Kansas,
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and ain't nothing to do out there except for love football.
So these kids that either didn't have a good enough
GPA to get into the school that was recruiting them,
or looked or was completely overlooked throughout the high school
recruitment process. They go to junior college. They get an
opportunity to be reevaluated and re scouted and have a
chance to go play college football. Now, what has really
(10:18):
caused the kerfuffle in all of this was the Diego
Pavier rule. Some one judge decided, oh no, those two
co years don't count, you get the years back. Well,
that set precedents in court cases where all of these
kids are now applying for extra years of eligibility. And honestly,
Jonathan's sitting right here, my producer, have any of these
been approved. They've all been denied since Pavia right, nobody's
(10:40):
getting exter years of eligibility. So I think it was
kind of like an overblown idea. Like I talked to
a bunch of junior college coaches in this country that
were like, wait a minute, you're telling me I'm free,
Like you get to come here and these years don't
count towards your eligibility. We're back up, We're gonna be Okay,
that's not the case anymore. I don't think junior college
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is gonna get some revamping because of this. I think
a lot of court cases around the country. I mean, heck,
even Greg Sankee George you heard it. He stood up
on the podium and said, hey, we've got to set
time limits on this stuff. We can't have twenty five
and twenty six year old players playing college football. That's
taking opportunities from high school players. All the while, on
(11:22):
the same exact day, Diego Pavia, the face of this
extra years of eligibility stuff, was set to speak at
the podium. So it's a real cluster right now with
this type of stuff. But junior college football used to
be your last chance to go get it out of
the mud. Nowadays you can do it totally differently. Right nowadays,
you can go play D two football, you can go
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play D three football, And if you're an All American,
you ain't gonna stay at D two football. You're gonna
end up transferring up. Same thing. If you're a fourteen
hundred yard rusher as a true freshman, like the kid
at Louisiana Monroe was last year, you're not gonna stay
at Louisiana Monroe. You're gonna transfer him and you're gonna
be an SEC starter within a year. So using Juco
(12:04):
as this trampoline method isn't as ideal as it used
to be, because I could go play at a Division
two school, get a real education, and actually play, you know,
in a uniform that I didn't have to buy. You
know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
You mentioned you tooched on that, just to throw some
devildvocate in that exist. It wasn't in the questions that
George's three over. But there's a guy at South Carolina
in Rasi Fason who is, as far as I'm aware,
I'm not seeing in the last day or two, he's
still away in an announcement on these eligibility for the
twenty twenty five college football season, which is Luar Chris right,
(12:39):
and talk to me a little bit about that.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah, that's actually a really interesting story. So he's been
approved to practice, guys, but they're waiting on whether or
not they're going to allow him to play. And it's
a very and I say it's interesting because I'm perplexed.
I don't know how I feel about this, because if
you look into his past, if you look into his career. Man,
this guy's jumped multiple schools. He's done the route, he's
(13:05):
played the opportunities in college. This is a guy that
was on a roster in twenty twenty at Lakawana College,
then went to Marshall in twenty twenty one, then went
back to JUCO in twenty twenty two, then in twenty
twenty three played at Utah State, and in twenty twenty
four played at Utah State. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I
love that young men need opportunities to play college football,
(13:29):
and this is an opportunity for you to live out
your dream. That's great. But if you're on a junior
college roster in twenty nineteen and then transferred in twenty twenty,
and then transferred again in twenty twenty one, and then
transferred again in twenty twenty two, and then played a
couple of years, and then now we're here in twenty
twenty five and you think you still were guys, it's sad.
It's bad. I wish he could play, but eventually the
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rest of dude, I had to quit playing football and
get a job. It's the reality. It's the reality for
a lot of people. Okay, so eventually your timetable runs out,
and if it didn't work for you, then we got
we gotta go chase other dreams. We can't Russeaul Faison
and many of Rousseul Faison's. It's awesome that he might
(14:13):
be getting his opportunity at South Carolina this year, but
he just cost some high school kid an opportunity on
that roster. That's the reality. Every single time a twenty
four year old gets another year of eligibility, he's costing
an eighteen year old to chase his dream. That's the
way I look at this, And I don't know if
the NCAA looks at it that way, but that's the
way I look at it. Every time an old guy
gets to stay, a young guy just got cut, that's
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the way I look at it.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Let's expand on that a little bit, because you are
a recruiting expert, Brooks, and everything that we've talked about
here now impacts on the recruiting landscape and the opportunities
that are available for people, for players student athletes to
come up three high school levels. We're seeing now more
and more kids who are and realigning into the year
(15:00):
different years so they can get to college quicker, so
that they're not but they're not biloged. Talk to me
about the changing landscape of college football recruit.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Man, it's insane. I like the reclassing stuff, in my opinion,
wasn't as much about getting caught in the backlog as
it was making sure you were able to get in
prior to rev share. This is a whole macro conversation,
but obviously house versus into Douba Pass, which puts some
type of pretend regulation on name, image and likeness and
pay for play and all this stuff. So I think
(15:29):
Mark Bowman, I think Xavier Crowell. I think a lot
of these high caliber twenty twenty seven prospects reclassed at
twenty twenty six so they could get their money front loaded.
Like all of these high caliber twenty twenty six players
actually did. But in terms of how this is impact
and recruiting, man like name, image and likeness is impacting it.
But I think the transfer report was really crushing a
(15:51):
lot of this, particularly at the mid major level. Right,
I looked at schools like UTSA and Texas State and
the Firmans of the world, right, the app States of
the world. These schools have basically removed their high school recruitings.
All right, the high school recruiting process, it just doesn't
happen as much at the rate it did years prior,
right prior to one time transfers and prior to you
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being able to move wherever you want, play wherever you want,
whenever you want. Schools like UTSA were recruiting twenty five
high school kids a year. Well, now schools like UTSA
every other year or every year recruiting twelve high school kids.
And they're taking the rest out.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Of the portal.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Right, Guys that didn't play at Arkansas that we think
that can play for US, Guys that didn't play at
Texas A and M that we think can play for US. Well,
you just removed thirteen opportunities, fourteen opportunities for high school
football players at your university. And by the way, your
entire conference is doing that all these mid major schools,
because their coaches are trying to get up out of there,
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are trying to revamp their roster with veteran football players
that are ready to play college ball so they can
win their nine or ten games and they can move on.
But all it's doing is removing opportunities for high school
kids which mentioned it. Man like, I'm a recruiting guy.
That's what is the lifeblood of this sport to me,
giving opportunities to eighteen year old kids to get them
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to college and have them, you know, develop into what
they ultimately can be. I think we're cutting those opportunities
left and right every time I look up.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Such as as I listened to this conversation only I
don't know if you remember we one of our very
first episodes way back, we were talking about Bruce McCoy,
and Bruce McCoy was trying to get I mean, I mean,
the ability to transfer was much more difficult back then.
But there was a player that jumped about and that
was that was Texas usc usc Texas. Now he's at Tennessee.
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And to Brooks point, some of these players will just
never settle in the one place. They just never will
always keep on moving. Strikes me the environment that players
will try and get around the environment to move to
where they really want to be. But let's try and
get back on Kirkby's good side, because we know Kirby
SmartLess is says podcast on a regular basis. Brooks, you're
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in that neckery woods you cover Georgia. You cover Georgia,
I think since twenty nineteen. I'm really torn to say
that George is flying under the radar this season because
I feel that that is a lot to do with
the pre season hype that goes on and is typically
thrown around Texas and then whoever is the sexy pick
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that we're going to focus on this year? Right, But
Kirby is probably going to end up with the number
one recruiting class in the country. He continues to have
this conveyor belt of talent for some of the reasons
that you outlined at at the outset. That's maybe the
kind of old school Nick Saban way of doing it.
(18:45):
But notwithstanding that, he's negotiated, he's navigated his way through
the current situation we're in. Talk to us about the
job that Kirby Smart is doing with recruiting at Georgia.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Look, Kirby can only do what he's been able to
do at Georgia because he won when he went or
win he won. If they don't win national titles in
twenty twenty one, in twenty twenty two, when the nil
market explodes in twenty twenty three, twenty four, twenty five,
and twenty six like it has the last four classes.
I don't think they're able to do what they've been
able to do, which is basically walk up to every
blue chip prospect that's getting offered everything under the sun
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from everybody else and say they don't win there we do.
They don't produce like we do. They're not going to
give you the opportunities that we do. They might be
able to pay you twice as much as us, but
they're not going to put you in a platform like
we are. They might be able to pay you as
much as everybody else, but if you come here, you're
guaranteed to either win an SEC title or a national title. Also,
by the way, we produce way more NFL prospects in
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that football program. They're not able to do and recruit
their weight the rate that they are. If they don't
win like they have over the in that twenty twenty
one and twenty twenty two cycle, their roster value is
considerably less than everybody else. You take a pay cut
to come to Georgia, and I don't think I think
that happens. Like I said, if they don't win at
the rate that they do, so it's a only Georgia thing,
(20:05):
like I think Calen de Bor doesn't get this benefit
of the doubt right now at Alabama, I think they're
having to pay a little bit more than what a
Georgia would, right but they're recruiting and the good thing
about what Alabama's doing and de Bor's doing is he's
you know, drumming up the interest in his program to
have those funds to go out there and spend. Now.
I don't think Alabama is spending at the rates that
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like in Ohio State USC or Oregon are right now,
or Texas for that matter, but they're spending a little
bit higher than they would under the Saber regime. So
I think who your football coach is, the track record
that he has, the amount of success that he has
allows you to go out there and say, hey, we're
gonna give you some pay cuts on this because you're
coming to Georgia. So I think they've been able to
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maintain because of the cultural standard at Georgia. And also
that is a program that you may not make as
much as the school be over here when you come
in as a true freshman, but when you play here
as a true freshman like kJ Bolden, did you can
be one of the highest paid safeties in the sport
by year two. I mean, it's just the way that
the brand of the school does and the amount of
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eyes that are put on you when you play at
a high rate. Like some of these young players have.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
A friend of the show. I just want to keep
on Georgia for a second. A friend of the show
always says the Georgia, the program, the fans, the people
around happens a horny for disrespect and George touched on it. There.
It feels like this is a year where Georgia is
either flying under the radar, or is being disrespected, or
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is being evaluated correctly, which I think is in my opinion,
They're not being talked about like Georgia Bulldogs teams of
the last five years. How do you think this Bulldogs
team stacks up?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah, honestly, guys, I know why they're being clinical underrated
or overlooked or whatever you want to use for them.
It's the quarterback. Like nobody thinks on the outside that
Gunner Stockton is going to be this super special, elite quarterback.
That's why everybody's doubting them in comparisons to the rest
of the conference. And for that matter, of the rest
of the sport. I think when you look at where
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they are at in preseason rankings, everybody in front of them,
most people think that that guy's going to be a
slightly better quarterback or has better weapons around them. Right,
the Julian saying is an unknown for the most part
at Ohio State, as as Luke kinesholds. But I mean,
god forbid, US three could go throw for three thousand
yards in that offense. We should be able to with
all the wide receivers. So everybody looks at that and
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doesn't worry about it. They just assume it's gonna be
picking stick. What people don't realize about Georgia and I
think if they looked at it like realistically, they'd understand it.
What Georgia has right now is the most valuable thing
in salary cap sports, which is what college football is now.
The most valuable thing in the NFL is a quality,
serviceable starter as a rookie in the NFL. If you
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have a rookie quarterback on an NFL rookie contract, you
have the opportunity to surround him with the elite talent
because you have the most valuable thing in sports, which
is a cheap starter at the position. That's what Georgia
has this year. They have a cheap starter at the position.
If we were to rank all sixteen sec starters in
terms of annual value, I think Gunnerstocks is probably being
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paid in that twelve to fourteen range. Okay, so what
does that mean? That means Georgia went from a quarterback
last year that was making anywhere north of two and
a half million dollars from in Carson back to now
or having a quarterback that's making considerably less than that,
and they're able to surround him with better weapons. They
were able to go out and get Noah Thomas out
of the portal, Zach Ryan Branch out of the portal.
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They were able to go get Josh McCray out of
the portal of Illinois. They were able to throw a
bunch of bodies at the edge Russian position that they
were thin at right, same thing at safety. They were
only able to do that because they had essentially a
rookie quarterback on a contract. Now, what that means is
in normal NFL circles, right, when you have that valuable
piece and a cheap quarterback, that means he doesn't necessarily
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required to do a whole lot. Right that Russell Wilson
won a Super Bowl not being demanded to be the
best player on that Seattle Seahawks team. Right. I think
the only rookie quarterback that got to the Super Bowl
having to be a superhero was Joe Burrow at Cincinnati.
The rest of them got to is a slap in
the face, but got to kind of game manage their
way to a super Bowl. I think Georgia could do
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the very same thing this year with Gunner Stockton.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
He talks about the SEC quarterbacks then and the average
value who's a quarterback? Quarterbacks obviously dominated conversation SEC and
media days with arts Man's apperiods who's a quarterback? Or
a couple of quarterbacks who used think crugs are flying
underneath the radar a little bit in the SEC this year.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, Actually, funny you asked. We got an episode coming
out here in about thirty minutes on the YouTube channel
the film Gut Network Most underrated Quarterbacks entering the College
twenty twenty five season. I'm sure you guys know it,
because you guys know ball. Y'all know w Josh Hoover
is out at TCU. Josh Hoover. Josh Hoover is a baller, Okay,
(25:06):
Josh Hoover. We watched him on tape. I told as
an offensive lineman, I watched Josh Hoover stare bullets in
the face and don't give a dang. I mean, he's
watching a defensive lineman just about to obliterate him, and
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he knows the only way for me to throw this
touchdown on this corner route is if I get obliterated.
And I'm gonna do it anyways. I'm gonna stand right here,
I'm gonna throw that ball. I'm gonna stare this pressure
in the face. I'm gonna take this hit. And when
you watch that, all right, as a football player, when
you're his teammate and you watch that stuff, all you
can think about is the fact that I have a
football player playing the quarterback position, not a quarterback playing football.
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There is a very very vast difference, all right. And
when you see toughness and when you see tenacity, when
you see competitive character, when you see moxie on tape,
as a teammate, you play harder for that football player.
I loved what I saw from Josh Hoover. Now, is
he gonna make it through a season without like getting up,
like just destroyed in the pocket? Probably not. Probably might
(26:12):
get hurt this year, but it doesn't matter. I think
the dude's gonna throw for four thousand yards this year
at TCU. And I loved what I saw on tape.
I think Sawyer Robinson everybody sees off the box score
as like a really really like high value gonna put
up a lot of stats quarterback out there at Baylor,
and I think he's gonna do the same thing again
this year. Those are two names that we just watched
(26:32):
where I was like, damn, that guy doesn't get talked
about enough.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
In my opinion, fairly fourth and fifth highest graded quarterbacks
in the country according to the Pro Football Network College
QB plus metric. Just to get a little plug in there, George.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Get a plug in just very quickly before we wrap up,
And I want to touch on Florida. I know that
you guys have talking about DG. Lagway, and I think
in the last episode you were talking about where this
injury might be. I thought that, well, listen you listen
to Billy Napier. He comes across well, and I think
(27:16):
he gets the benefit of the doubt from a lot
of people. The schedule does not hold up well for
him at all this year, much more depending whether Lagway
can remain fit. But Napier is very much of the
opinion that Lagway's got a better roster, better talented roster
around the bilbum. Where do you think Florida ends up
(27:36):
this year? And I don't want to be negative in
terms of whether it's going to be Billy Napier or not,
but how do you think that Florida fairs with that
schedule they've got this year?
Speaker 1 (27:46):
So first and foremost, I think you have to hold
Billy until DJ leaves. I think that's where we're at
in college football nowadays. I think you would be remiss
to fire a football coach who still has talented underclassmen
on his wro Honestly, I think Auburn's in the same boat.
Auburn would be starting over from scratch if they fired
Hugh Freeze after this year. No matter what happens, they
(28:08):
have two top ten recruiting classes that are true freshmen
and redshirt freshmen on their roster right now. So if
you fire Hugh Freeze, if you fire my man, right here.
You're going to restart your whole system, right, all those
elite wide receivers that Florida has right now. I know
they brought in start event from UCLA, but you're losing
Dallas Wilson. The moment you fire Billy Naper, you can
(28:29):
kiss goodbye the last year of DJ Lagway. The moment
you fire Billy Napier, I think you would be it
would be detrimental to the program because you're firing the
guy that actually brought in winnable football players and didn't
give him an opportunity to finish winning with those football players. Now,
as far as the DJ Lagway stuff goes, this stuff
really concerns me, man, because not only is it a
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calf strain, is what we've been told from Florida b reporters,
Because lord knows, Billy ain't telling us what it is.
We know it's a calf strainer. At least that's what
we're being told. Anybody know what the last six years
of professional at like real athletics tell us about cash strains.
It's scary, okay, like dating back to Kevin Durant. I
know we're talking basketball, but that's the only real relative
(29:10):
point we have Kevin Durant cash strained three weeks later
Tours Achilles, Tyrese Halliburton calf strained three weeks later, Tours Achilles.
All right, Jason Tatum cash strained three weeks later Towards Achilles.
Sports tells us right now, you better leave DJ lagway
in a vacuum until this CAF strain is one hundred
percent completed and healthy and you feel good and you're
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all right, because a month off of practicing for DJ
right now is a whole hell of a lot better
for Florida's future than missing the entire season because we
rushed him back and he popped his achilles. That's the
worst thing that can happen for that guy. But that
being said again, like DJ needs to practice, man, this
guy didn't get to practice a whole lot last year
because of whatever was going on with him, miss spring
(29:55):
because of whatever was going on with him, and now
we're basically missing all of fall camp as a CAF string.
Not good. Like super talented football player still needs to practice.
Was making very very bad mistakes on tape last year.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
I thought, sounds like another interesting year in Gaine. So
that is all the time we have on this episode,
it flies when we have a really good guest. Unfortunately
now and it's gone. I talked a little bit at
the start, Brooks about what you do and how you
go about things. I think this might be a brand
new audience for you. So tell everybody where they can
(30:32):
find you, what you're working on, all the stuff that
they need to know.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
So I think what we're most known for is just
pure education of actual football. Right. So I'm the film guy.
What we do on our network, we do with the
shows like everybody else, Well, we're really known for is
our film breakdowns. So if you're someone who's fallen in
love with the pageantry of college football, the passion of
college football, but you really don't know the why or
what's going on, we're I think we're best for that. Okay.
(30:58):
So if you have what we call a kindergartener's knowledge
of actual football concepts, we're going to educate you, Okay.
If you're someone who knows football, if you're someone who's
got a calculus level of football concepts, we're going to
entertain you. Okay. So we're that magical land where people
who know football at its highest level can come to
be entertained and people who don't necessarily know a ton
(31:19):
about football can be educated while being entertained. So yeah,
if you're someone who wants to know a little bit
more about ball, or just wants to have fun talking ball,
or a great place to be George, guys, I appreciate
you for having me on, and I'm sorry it took
me so long to get on here.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
It was worth the way. All the good guests are
worst the way. That's all we have time for on
this episode. Before we finish up, I reminder that the
new sc football Docky cit Is SEC Football any Given
Saturday is now available on Netflix. Give it a watch
because we're going to be talking about that in a
future episode. Thanks for continue to support us, stay safe,
and we out and catch you all next time.
I'm not going to comment on that.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'll get fine for the rest of my life if
I get comment on that natural championship.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
That's young girls.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Hey everyone, and welcome to the College Chaps podcast. On
this episode, we're going to delve into the fascinating but
sometimes murky world of recruiting with our guests. But to
be clear, our guests, there's no way murky. But first
we are the College Chaps and I'm joined by the
incredibly talented and arguably the best sports writer in the
Derbyshire Dales area, Oliver. How are you my friend?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
That's that I say this. I feel like every like show,
every podcast I ever go on, I always think that's
the best introlution that I've had this season, and were
not even have a season. I don't think it's going
to get better than that. George, that was the you
can tell you come in to visit me this weekend.
You clearly want me to buy a buy a pint
with that. Looking forward to that, let's do three weeks
(01:13):
still college football. So I'm awesome. I'm very excited for
this twenty twenty five season. I'm very excited for the
guests we've got today, and yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Indeed, we are incredibly fortunate to have the best guests
on this podcast, and luckily we don't have to wait
so long to have them come on until now. The
only guest we've been waiting longer for to come on
the show is Paul finebaumb and we're still waiting for
mister fine Bomb. So we are excited to have our
guests make it onto the show today. He is known
as the Film Guy and if you haven't checked out,
(01:43):
it's incredibly popular YouTube channel, the Film Guy Network. I
suggest you do before YouTube explodes with all his followers.
He is also the sharpest dress our SEC media days.
So it's a pleasure to welcome Brooks Austin onto the podcast.
Brooks High, how are you?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I'm good, but God a quick question. Like every every
non American voice that we hear, it's like auditorially pleasing.
So you folks over across the pod, you hear this redneck,
this American accent. Is it pleasing to your ear like
the foreign voice is to ours? Or is it like
I gotta hear this crap for the next forty minutes?
(02:19):
What is it?
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
I don't know if we would do this on such
a regular basis, if we if we really hated the accent. No, no,
it's great to I mean created for wrong, Olie. I
don't think we've we might have only had one guest
from this side of the Atlantic on the podcast. Every
guest we have is from America.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Is that correct?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah, I think so. I think so.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I don't think yeah, auditortally pleasing.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yeah, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I'm gonna.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
I'm gonna maneuver that into the into the introduction, right,
and we do. We've got a limited time, and we
do want to talk to you about some really important
stuff because, to my mind, where I listen to you
on the YouTube channel, but also when I get to
see you in personal media days, you are in the
(03:11):
midst of recruiting in the South, and you talk a
lot about that. But there's a couple of really pressing
issues that the game is about to face, or is facing.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Just now.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Let's start with roster caps books, because I know that
there's something you're quite passionate about. The roster caps that
are going to come in are essentially I'm going to
I'm going to generalize here, but they're essentially going to
push the walk on out of the picture. Right, The caps,
which will be one hundred and five, will be fully
(03:43):
funded scholarships, so there actually is no room for a
walk on as such. What are your what are your
thoughts on that? First of all? But what do you
then think would be the impact on the game going forward?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
So honestly, I obviously it's a it's a sad thing
that the idea of the walk on story might be
removed from particularly our side of the business. I think
the idea of telling the story of a walk on
who ultimately became a starter at a really big program
and then went on to win or have a great
lecture's career is a great story in college football. I
think Stetson Bennett and the story there at the University
(04:18):
of Georgia was one of the best true original stories.
It's almost like a movie, it seems like. However, that
being said, I think something needed to be done for
the lesser levels of college football. Right. We all love
power for football, we all talk about it, we all
watch it. But there are one hundred and ninety two
hundred and fifty three hundred college football programs in Division
(04:39):
one Double A and mid major in Division two and
Division three and NAI that are all across this country
that were having their rosters depleted because NIL walk ons
were a thing now all right, So you could be
a borderline football player that was like a Coastal Carolina
good football player in twenty nineteen, you were going to
(04:59):
co store, right, you were feeding that roster. Well nowadays
because of NIL, those quote unquote walk ons could have
their scholarships paid for them a right at these schools
via NIL. So they're not having to pay tuition, they're
not labeled as a scholarship player, but they're not having
to pay for anything because they're an NIL walk on.
This was happening at nauseum throughout the SEC. Look. I
(05:21):
think Dan Jackson's a great story, but something had to
be done for the Memphisis of the world. Something had
to be done for the app States of the world.
They were having their rosters pillage by these Division one SEC,
Power five, Big ten schools. As soon as they had
a good player, they'd steal them from them. And then
they were stealing the walk ons in high school. It
was just left and right. The lesser levels of this
(05:42):
sport were getting pillaged in this country, and I think
it's a good thing. Honestly, it sucks for the walk
on story, but I think it's good that Mackai Muse,
who is the best wide receiver at Houston right now,
should have been at Houston coming out of high school,
but instead he walked on at Georgia because they were
able to pay this to that stuff had to stop.
And I think it's good for these lesser levels of football.
(06:04):
I guarantee you did not expect that answer.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
I did not expect that answer, And actually it goes,
it goes in complete opposite to what kirkpy thinks about it,
for all the reasons that you have just outlined.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Right then, of.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Course, if he can have it right, yeah, if he
can have all the Division one caliber players, if he
can have two hundred guys on his roster, he would
it behooves him to steal every talented football player that
there is and get him on his roster. Behooves all
those Power five coaches. But it don't help the coach
at Furman who's coaching for his life. It don't help
the coach at Georgia Southern right who's trying to get
(06:38):
back out Clay Hilton. It doesn't help those guys. So
I think this is a good like balancing of the
player acquisition strategies all around the sport man.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
And we'll go on a little because all he's going
to open up this this this whole issue a bit further.
But do you think then there's room for everybody, there's
room for all of these players to maneuver about college football,
because that's what part of the issue is. Part of
the issue is that when the transfer portal opens up,
you've got thousands of players into the portal.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah, also think that we're moving away from the COVID
additional years, right. I think what really jacked this sport
up was we created a backlog of football players that
are trying to play at schools that have limited number
of roster positions. Right when you basically say if you
were on a roster in twenty twenty, it doesn't count.
(07:29):
If you want it, you can get it. We've got
guys that are twenty six, twenty seven years old. It
seems like playing college football that's way too many opportunities
when we don't have that many roster spots. Right, you
got one hundred and fifty guys available to play, and
only one hundred and twenty able to make the team.
So you got this backlog of football players. It was
(07:49):
so obvious that it was going to happen. The moment
Charlie Baker decided the easiest decision was the right decision.
The easiest decision when COVID happened was to say, none
of this counts. Everybody gets to play for free. But
what he didn't realize was you just pushed an entire
group of bodies down an entire year. So what happens
when those high school kids get to come up. You
(08:10):
didn't give everybody an extra year of high school eligibility.
So we created this backlog of college football players that
I think are starting to finally trickle out now and
we're starting to get back to normal sanity with regards
of how long you're able to play college football. I'm
a six to play four guy. I believe in it sternly. Okay,
(08:30):
you get one year to red shirt, you get one
year to medically red shirt if an injury cost you
your entire year. But this idea of seven eight year
seniors miss me. With that, man, you're costing opportunities for
young high school football players, in my opinion, and.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
It's not just a high school level either, is it.
Let's talk about the JUK level, because, in addition to
what we've just discussed about the COVID year, the changes
in eligibility require emmons the transfer paul as well playing
such a big part now with roster construction at the
DUCO level, which was always a consistent pipeline, especially in
(09:10):
the state of Mississippi, that is starting to change, right
And you talked to Msissippi head coach Jeff Levy about
this twelve months ago. Talk to me a little bit
about the JUCO landscape, how that's changing the importance of it,
and how damaging these changes in college football. And I
(09:30):
guess the lineage of college football is to the DUC level.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
It's really like the secondary opportunities, right. So JUCO is
your last ditched effort. JUCO is your last chance. That's
why it was called Last Chance You on Netflix. For
most people outside of this region of the country, that's
their only connection point to what junior college football is.
But I'm gonna tell you right now, junior college football
is located in two regions of this country, Mississippi and Kansas,
(09:58):
and ain't nothing to do out there except for love football.
So these kids that either didn't have a good enough
GPA to get into the school that was recruiting them,
or looked or was completely overlooked throughout the high school
recruitment process. They go to junior college. They get an
opportunity to be reevaluated and re scouted and have a
chance to go play college football. Now, what has really
(10:18):
caused the kerfuffle in all of this was the Diego
Pavier rule. Some one judge decided, oh no, those two
co years don't count, you get the years back. Well,
that set precedents in court cases where all of these
kids are now applying for extra years of eligibility. And honestly,
Jonathan's sitting right here, my producer, have any of these
been approved. They've all been denied since Pavia right, nobody's
(10:40):
getting exter years of eligibility. So I think it was
kind of like an overblown idea. Like I talked to
a bunch of junior college coaches in this country that
were like, wait a minute, you're telling me I'm free,
Like you get to come here and these years don't
count towards your eligibility. We're back up, We're gonna be Okay,
that's not the case anymore. I don't think junior college
(11:00):
is gonna get some revamping because of this. I think
a lot of court cases around the country. I mean, heck,
even Greg Sankee George you heard it. He stood up
on the podium and said, hey, we've got to set
time limits on this stuff. We can't have twenty five
and twenty six year old players playing college football. That's
taking opportunities from high school players. All the while, on
(11:22):
the same exact day, Diego Pavia, the face of this
extra years of eligibility stuff, was set to speak at
the podium. So it's a real cluster right now with
this type of stuff. But junior college football used to
be your last chance to go get it out of
the mud. Nowadays you can do it totally differently. Right nowadays,
you can go play D two football, you can go
(11:43):
play D three football, And if you're an All American,
you ain't gonna stay at D two football. You're gonna
end up transferring up. Same thing. If you're a fourteen
hundred yard rusher as a true freshman, like the kid
at Louisiana Monroe was last year, you're not gonna stay
at Louisiana Monroe. You're gonna transfer him and you're gonna
be an SEC starter within a year. So using Juco
(12:04):
as this trampoline method isn't as ideal as it used
to be, because I could go play at a Division
two school, get a real education, and actually play, you know,
in a uniform that I didn't have to buy. You
know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
You mentioned you tooched on that, just to throw some
devildvocate in that exist. It wasn't in the questions that
George's three over. But there's a guy at South Carolina
in Rasi Fason who is, as far as I'm aware,
I'm not seeing in the last day or two, he's
still away in an announcement on these eligibility for the
twenty twenty five college football season, which is Luar Chris right,
(12:39):
and talk to me a little bit about that.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah, that's actually a really interesting story. So he's been
approved to practice, guys, but they're waiting on whether or
not they're going to allow him to play. And it's
a very and I say it's interesting because I'm perplexed.
I don't know how I feel about this, because if
you look into his past, if you look into his career. Man,
this guy's jumped multiple schools. He's done the route, he's
(13:05):
played the opportunities in college. This is a guy that
was on a roster in twenty twenty at Lakawana College,
then went to Marshall in twenty twenty one, then went
back to JUCO in twenty twenty two, then in twenty
twenty three played at Utah State, and in twenty twenty
four played at Utah State. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I
love that young men need opportunities to play college football,
(13:29):
and this is an opportunity for you to live out
your dream. That's great. But if you're on a junior
college roster in twenty nineteen and then transferred in twenty twenty,
and then transferred again in twenty twenty one, and then
transferred again in twenty twenty two, and then played a
couple of years, and then now we're here in twenty
twenty five and you think you still were guys, it's sad.
It's bad. I wish he could play, but eventually the
(13:52):
rest of dude, I had to quit playing football and
get a job. It's the reality. It's the reality for
a lot of people. Okay, so eventually your timetable runs out,
and if it didn't work for you, then we got
we gotta go chase other dreams. We can't Russeaul Faison
and many of Rousseul Faison's. It's awesome that he might
(14:13):
be getting his opportunity at South Carolina this year, but
he just cost some high school kid an opportunity on
that roster. That's the reality. Every single time a twenty
four year old gets another year of eligibility, he's costing
an eighteen year old to chase his dream. That's the
way I look at this, And I don't know if
the NCAA looks at it that way, but that's the
way I look at it. Every time an old guy
gets to stay, a young guy just got cut, that's
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the way I look at it.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Let's expand on that a little bit, because you are
a recruiting expert, Brooks, and everything that we've talked about
here now impacts on the recruiting landscape and the opportunities
that are available for people, for players student athletes to
come up three high school levels. We're seeing now more
and more kids who are and realigning into the year
(15:00):
different years so they can get to college quicker, so
that they're not but they're not biloged. Talk to me
about the changing landscape of college football recruit.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Man, it's insane. I like the reclassing stuff, in my opinion,
wasn't as much about getting caught in the backlog as
it was making sure you were able to get in
prior to rev share. This is a whole macro conversation,
but obviously house versus into Douba Pass, which puts some
type of pretend regulation on name, image and likeness and
pay for play and all this stuff. So I think
(15:29):
Mark Bowman, I think Xavier Crowell. I think a lot
of these high caliber twenty twenty seven prospects reclassed at
twenty twenty six so they could get their money front loaded.
Like all of these high caliber twenty twenty six players
actually did. But in terms of how this is impact
and recruiting, man like name, image and likeness is impacting it.
But I think the transfer report was really crushing a
(15:51):
lot of this, particularly at the mid major level. Right,
I looked at schools like UTSA and Texas State and
the Firmans of the world, right, the app States of
the world. These schools have basically removed their high school recruitings.
All right, the high school recruiting process, it just doesn't
happen as much at the rate it did years prior,
right prior to one time transfers and prior to you
(16:13):
being able to move wherever you want, play wherever you want,
whenever you want. Schools like UTSA were recruiting twenty five
high school kids a year. Well, now schools like UTSA
every other year or every year recruiting twelve high school kids.
And they're taking the rest out.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Of the portal.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Right, Guys that didn't play at Arkansas that we think
that can play for US, Guys that didn't play at
Texas A and M that we think can play for US. Well,
you just removed thirteen opportunities, fourteen opportunities for high school
football players at your university. And by the way, your
entire conference is doing that all these mid major schools,
because their coaches are trying to get up out of there,
(16:47):
are trying to revamp their roster with veteran football players
that are ready to play college ball so they can
win their nine or ten games and they can move on.
But all it's doing is removing opportunities for high school
kids which mentioned it. Man like, I'm a recruiting guy.
That's what is the lifeblood of this sport to me,
giving opportunities to eighteen year old kids to get them
(17:08):
to college and have them, you know, develop into what
they ultimately can be. I think we're cutting those opportunities
left and right every time I look up.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Such as as I listened to this conversation only I
don't know if you remember we one of our very
first episodes way back, we were talking about Bruce McCoy,
and Bruce McCoy was trying to get I mean, I mean,
the ability to transfer was much more difficult back then.
But there was a player that jumped about and that
was that was Texas usc usc Texas. Now he's at Tennessee.
(17:39):
And to Brooks point, some of these players will just
never settle in the one place. They just never will
always keep on moving. Strikes me the environment that players
will try and get around the environment to move to
where they really want to be. But let's try and
get back on Kirkby's good side, because we know Kirby
SmartLess is says podcast on a regular basis. Brooks, you're
(18:01):
in that neckery woods you cover Georgia. You cover Georgia,
I think since twenty nineteen. I'm really torn to say
that George is flying under the radar this season because
I feel that that is a lot to do with
the pre season hype that goes on and is typically
thrown around Texas and then whoever is the sexy pick
(18:24):
that we're going to focus on this year? Right, But
Kirby is probably going to end up with the number
one recruiting class in the country. He continues to have
this conveyor belt of talent for some of the reasons
that you outlined at at the outset. That's maybe the
kind of old school Nick Saban way of doing it.
(18:45):
But notwithstanding that, he's negotiated, he's navigated his way through
the current situation we're in. Talk to us about the
job that Kirby Smart is doing with recruiting at Georgia.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Look, Kirby can only do what he's been able to
do at Georgia because he won when he went or
win he won. If they don't win national titles in
twenty twenty one, in twenty twenty two, when the nil
market explodes in twenty twenty three, twenty four, twenty five,
and twenty six like it has the last four classes.
I don't think they're able to do what they've been
able to do, which is basically walk up to every
blue chip prospect that's getting offered everything under the sun
(19:22):
from everybody else and say they don't win there we do.
They don't produce like we do. They're not going to
give you the opportunities that we do. They might be
able to pay you twice as much as us, but
they're not going to put you in a platform like
we are. They might be able to pay you as
much as everybody else, but if you come here, you're
guaranteed to either win an SEC title or a national title. Also,
by the way, we produce way more NFL prospects in
(19:43):
that football program. They're not able to do and recruit
their weight the rate that they are. If they don't
win like they have over the in that twenty twenty
one and twenty twenty two cycle, their roster value is
considerably less than everybody else. You take a pay cut
to come to Georgia, and I don't think I think
that happens. Like I said, if they don't win at
the rate that they do, so it's a only Georgia thing,
(20:05):
like I think Calen de Bor doesn't get this benefit
of the doubt right now at Alabama, I think they're
having to pay a little bit more than what a
Georgia would, right but they're recruiting and the good thing
about what Alabama's doing and de Bor's doing is he's
you know, drumming up the interest in his program to
have those funds to go out there and spend. Now.
I don't think Alabama is spending at the rates that
(20:25):
like in Ohio State USC or Oregon are right now,
or Texas for that matter, but they're spending a little
bit higher than they would under the Saber regime. So
I think who your football coach is, the track record
that he has, the amount of success that he has
allows you to go out there and say, hey, we're
gonna give you some pay cuts on this because you're
coming to Georgia. So I think they've been able to
(20:48):
maintain because of the cultural standard at Georgia. And also
that is a program that you may not make as
much as the school be over here when you come
in as a true freshman, but when you play here
as a true freshman like kJ Bolden, did you can
be one of the highest paid safeties in the sport
by year two. I mean, it's just the way that
the brand of the school does and the amount of
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eyes that are put on you when you play at
a high rate. Like some of these young players have.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
A friend of the show. I just want to keep
on Georgia for a second. A friend of the show
always says the Georgia, the program, the fans, the people
around happens a horny for disrespect and George touched on it. There.
It feels like this is a year where Georgia is
either flying under the radar, or is being disrespected, or
(21:40):
is being evaluated correctly, which I think is in my opinion,
They're not being talked about like Georgia Bulldogs teams of
the last five years. How do you think this Bulldogs
team stacks up?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah, honestly, guys, I know why they're being clinical underrated
or overlooked or whatever you want to use for them.
It's the quarterback. Like nobody thinks on the outside that
Gunner Stockton is going to be this super special, elite quarterback.
That's why everybody's doubting them in comparisons to the rest
of the conference. And for that matter, of the rest
of the sport. I think when you look at where
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they are at in preseason rankings, everybody in front of them,
most people think that that guy's going to be a
slightly better quarterback or has better weapons around them. Right,
the Julian saying is an unknown for the most part
at Ohio State, as as Luke kinesholds. But I mean,
god forbid, US three could go throw for three thousand
yards in that offense. We should be able to with
all the wide receivers. So everybody looks at that and
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doesn't worry about it. They just assume it's gonna be
picking stick. What people don't realize about Georgia and I
think if they looked at it like realistically, they'd understand it.
What Georgia has right now is the most valuable thing
in salary cap sports, which is what college football is now.
The most valuable thing in the NFL is a quality,
serviceable starter as a rookie in the NFL. If you
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have a rookie quarterback on an NFL rookie contract, you
have the opportunity to surround him with the elite talent
because you have the most valuable thing in sports, which
is a cheap starter at the position. That's what Georgia
has this year. They have a cheap starter at the position.
If we were to rank all sixteen sec starters in
terms of annual value, I think Gunnerstocks is probably being
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paid in that twelve to fourteen range. Okay, so what
does that mean? That means Georgia went from a quarterback
last year that was making anywhere north of two and
a half million dollars from in Carson back to now
or having a quarterback that's making considerably less than that,
and they're able to surround him with better weapons. They
were able to go out and get Noah Thomas out
of the portal, Zach Ryan Branch out of the portal.
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They were able to go get Josh McCray out of
the portal of Illinois. They were able to throw a
bunch of bodies at the edge Russian position that they
were thin at right, same thing at safety. They were
only able to do that because they had essentially a
rookie quarterback on a contract. Now, what that means is
in normal NFL circles, right, when you have that valuable
piece and a cheap quarterback, that means he doesn't necessarily
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required to do a whole lot. Right that Russell Wilson
won a Super Bowl not being demanded to be the
best player on that Seattle Seahawks team. Right. I think
the only rookie quarterback that got to the Super Bowl
having to be a superhero was Joe Burrow at Cincinnati.
The rest of them got to is a slap in
the face, but got to kind of game manage their
way to a super Bowl. I think Georgia could do
(24:23):
the very same thing this year with Gunner Stockton.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
He talks about the SEC quarterbacks then and the average
value who's a quarterback? Quarterbacks obviously dominated conversation SEC and
media days with arts Man's apperiods who's a quarterback? Or
a couple of quarterbacks who used think crugs are flying
underneath the radar a little bit in the SEC this year.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, Actually, funny you asked. We got an episode coming
out here in about thirty minutes on the YouTube channel
the film Gut Network Most underrated Quarterbacks entering the College
twenty twenty five season. I'm sure you guys know it,
because you guys know ball. Y'all know w Josh Hoover
is out at TCU. Josh Hoover. Josh Hoover is a baller, Okay,
(25:06):
Josh Hoover. We watched him on tape. I told as
an offensive lineman, I watched Josh Hoover stare bullets in
the face and don't give a dang. I mean, he's
watching a defensive lineman just about to obliterate him, and
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he knows the only way for me to throw this
touchdown on this corner route is if I get obliterated.
And I'm gonna do it anyways. I'm gonna stand right here,
I'm gonna throw that ball. I'm gonna stare this pressure
in the face. I'm gonna take this hit. And when
you watch that, all right, as a football player, when
you're his teammate and you watch that stuff, all you
can think about is the fact that I have a
football player playing the quarterback position, not a quarterback playing football.
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There is a very very vast difference, all right. And
when you see toughness and when you see tenacity, when
you see competitive character, when you see moxie on tape,
as a teammate, you play harder for that football player.
I loved what I saw from Josh Hoover. Now, is
he gonna make it through a season without like getting up,
like just destroyed in the pocket? Probably not. Probably might
(26:12):
get hurt this year, but it doesn't matter. I think
the dude's gonna throw for four thousand yards this year
at TCU. And I loved what I saw on tape.
I think Sawyer Robinson everybody sees off the box score
as like a really really like high value gonna put
up a lot of stats quarterback out there at Baylor,
and I think he's gonna do the same thing again
this year. Those are two names that we just watched
(26:32):
where I was like, damn, that guy doesn't get talked
about enough.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
In my opinion, fairly fourth and fifth highest graded quarterbacks
in the country according to the Pro Football Network College
QB plus metric. Just to get a little plug in there, George.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Get a plug in just very quickly before we wrap up,
And I want to touch on Florida. I know that
you guys have talking about DG. Lagway, and I think
in the last episode you were talking about where this
injury might be. I thought that, well, listen you listen
to Billy Napier. He comes across well, and I think
(27:16):
he gets the benefit of the doubt from a lot
of people. The schedule does not hold up well for
him at all this year, much more depending whether Lagway
can remain fit. But Napier is very much of the
opinion that Lagway's got a better roster, better talented roster
around the bilbum. Where do you think Florida ends up
(27:36):
this year? And I don't want to be negative in
terms of whether it's going to be Billy Napier or not,
but how do you think that Florida fairs with that
schedule they've got this year?
Speaker 1 (27:46):
So first and foremost, I think you have to hold
Billy until DJ leaves. I think that's where we're at
in college football nowadays. I think you would be remiss
to fire a football coach who still has talented underclassmen
on his wro Honestly, I think Auburn's in the same boat.
Auburn would be starting over from scratch if they fired
Hugh Freeze after this year. No matter what happens, they
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have two top ten recruiting classes that are true freshmen
and redshirt freshmen on their roster right now. So if
you fire Hugh Freeze, if you fire my man, right here.
You're going to restart your whole system, right, all those
elite wide receivers that Florida has right now. I know
they brought in start event from UCLA, but you're losing
Dallas Wilson. The moment you fire Billy Naper, you can
(28:29):
kiss goodbye the last year of DJ Lagway. The moment
you fire Billy Napier, I think you would be it
would be detrimental to the program because you're firing the
guy that actually brought in winnable football players and didn't
give him an opportunity to finish winning with those football players. Now,
as far as the DJ Lagway stuff goes, this stuff
really concerns me, man, because not only is it a
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calf strain, is what we've been told from Florida b reporters,
Because lord knows, Billy ain't telling us what it is.
We know it's a calf strainer. At least that's what
we're being told. Anybody know what the last six years
of professional at like real athletics tell us about cash strains.
It's scary, okay, like dating back to Kevin Durant. I
know we're talking basketball, but that's the only real relative
(29:10):
point we have Kevin Durant cash strained three weeks later
Tours Achilles, Tyrese Halliburton calf strained three weeks later, Tours Achilles.
All right, Jason Tatum cash strained three weeks later Towards Achilles.
Sports tells us right now, you better leave DJ lagway
in a vacuum until this CAF strain is one hundred
percent completed and healthy and you feel good and you're
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all right, because a month off of practicing for DJ
right now is a whole hell of a lot better
for Florida's future than missing the entire season because we
rushed him back and he popped his achilles. That's the
worst thing that can happen for that guy. But that
being said again, like DJ needs to practice, man, this
guy didn't get to practice a whole lot last year
because of whatever was going on with him, miss spring
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because of whatever was going on with him, and now
we're basically missing all of fall camp as a CAF string.
Not good. Like super talented football player still needs to practice.
Was making very very bad mistakes on tape last year.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
I thought, sounds like another interesting year in Gaine. So
that is all the time we have on this episode,
it flies when we have a really good guest. Unfortunately
now and it's gone. I talked a little bit at
the start, Brooks about what you do and how you
go about things. I think this might be a brand
new audience for you. So tell everybody where they can
(30:32):
find you, what you're working on, all the stuff that
they need to know.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
So I think what we're most known for is just
pure education of actual football. Right. So I'm the film guy.
What we do on our network, we do with the
shows like everybody else, Well, we're really known for is
our film breakdowns. So if you're someone who's fallen in
love with the pageantry of college football, the passion of
college football, but you really don't know the why or
what's going on, we're I think we're best for that. Okay.
(30:58):
So if you have what we call a kindergartener's knowledge
of actual football concepts, we're going to educate you, Okay.
If you're someone who knows football, if you're someone who's
got a calculus level of football concepts, we're going to
entertain you. Okay. So we're that magical land where people
who know football at its highest level can come to
be entertained and people who don't necessarily know a ton
(31:19):
about football can be educated while being entertained. So yeah,
if you're someone who wants to know a little bit
more about ball, or just wants to have fun talking ball,
or a great place to be George, guys, I appreciate
you for having me on, and I'm sorry it took
me so long to get on here.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
It was worth the way. All the good guests are
worst the way. That's all we have time for on
this episode. Before we finish up, I reminder that the
new sc football Docky cit Is SEC Football any Given
Saturday is now available on Netflix. Give it a watch
because we're going to be talking about that in a
future episode. Thanks for continue to support us, stay safe,
and we out and catch you all next time.
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