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Speaker 2 (00:57):
Hey, welcome k l r N Land, two Thursday. This
is your introduction to the weekend. This is the culture shift.
How's everybody doing on? Brad Slagger getting ready to take
you down all the important flashy back alley ways of Hollywood,
but not doing this alone. Always shoulder to shoulder with
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me on this foray into the entertainment realm. As America's
most laser focused and digitized I'm ash individual, LORDI Packer,
what's going on with you? You know?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I'm just it doesn't know if it wants to be
winter or spring or fall again. So I'm just enjoying
all three seasons at once out here in the uh
beautiful and mostly retarded state of California. How about you,
Housband's America's Wang. What's going on with going on? Brad?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Well, it's hot unlike the rest of the country, and
I'm pissed off about that, but otherwise, just enjoying the
mayhem and enjoying being an American tonight as the War
on Ice is taking place as we speak right now
between USA and Canada, and it's uh just been just
been a fun ride already in this new format. And
(02:07):
HL just kind of switched things up for the All
Star Game and decided to do an international tournament with
the best players, and well, lo and behold, politics has
seeped into the sporting realm once again, and it's just
become hilarious as a result.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yeah, I I just before we came on, I saw
that we already won the battle of the national anthems.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, there wasn't too much booing for the Canadian anthem
because we here in America got class and ship. I
can't even say that would have straight faced. But nonetheless,
and the uh, the energy is definitely in this arena tonight,
So it's gonna be Yeah, might be a case of
me being a little distracted tonight, but but but we
got we got a lot on our plate. There's quite
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a lot going on on the business side of Hollywood
as we like to cover things.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
So yeah, it's actually surprised as usually this time of
year when we're in the Awards show season, you know,
everything from Golden globes to well passed the Oscars, you know,
when they are giving out their pity whatever, small little
all former empire country is giving out their film awards too.
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There's not a lot of entertainment business news going on,
but for some reason, let's just throw all convention into
the winds and give those guys over the culture shift
a smorgasboard of topics to cover.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
We we didn't have to strain mightily for a change,
So that's a good thing. I always like it when
our jobs easier. But well, why don't we just start
off with the awards? Briefly, the the beth Does just
took place. These are the British Entertainment Awards and they
kind of roll in their television and movie together in
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one big awards show.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yes, the best in British film.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Sure, let's go with that, but frequently it's American film,
and they also have a segregated section for British movies.
They still have their nationalistic pride because they are mostly
aware of the fact that their culture and entertainment is
swamped by America. Even though they got the BBC.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Also all two channels of it. Where's it three? Now?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, they got they might even be four. And then
they've got BBC America, and then they got a couple
offshoots like that.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
So it's I don't want to hear shit from a
country where you have to have a license to have
a TV.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, that's the thing. They're state run. And sorry, that's
not cool, because we hear in America believe in liberty
and freedom and separation from the status authority when it
comes to our entertainment.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Dammit, I believe we actually fought a war for that once.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, something something funny like that.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
But freedom for free TV.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Washing to get just give you an idea of things
over there. British television is basically PBS. Yeah, that'll give
you what they got through their entertainment.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
There you go. But TBS gossip shows and Doctor Who.
That's your that's that's your fair.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, and ironically we're gonna be covering quite a bit
of this. It's all fitting. But the The Baptist took place,
and pretty much like the Oscars, you don't know too
many of damn of these films. I mean, it's just
uh huh, what this one? I mean, we've heard of
them just because they're nominated. That's about it. And I
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only bring it up because the one that nobody could
stop talking about in December that everybody now regrets being
on the nomination list is Amelia for Rez And I'm
just cracking up at the evolution of this whole thing because, yeah,
right before the nominations came out, this move. They were
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just sledgehammering us with this film. It's the best, Yeah,
this is gonna be it. Well, it's a transfilm and
everything else, and we're celebrating it. And this whole thing
is now just turned into a package of cottage cheese
left in the trunk for three weeks. Nobody wants to
be near it, and.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Oh they are running from it. It has become the
it's perfect metaphor for a train. Aside from snow White,
this will be the most metaphoric metaphor of entertainment in
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, speaking of I just saw the trailer for that today,
snow White.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Which one snow White? Yeah, just go LOOKRD after the show.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
The well the Dwarves look like a nuclear mutation has
taken place of some sort and snow White.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Soxic convener on the last show, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I'm I'm still cracking up with the fact that you know,
this is a story where snow White is supposed to
be the fairest of all and the evil queen wants
her beauty. Where the casting is the evil queen is
the drop dead gorgeous gal Gado.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yeah, and then you have this angry, little, freaking hobgoblin
playing snow White.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah, the the bitter actress in the lead role. She
looks c GI that's how bad she looks in this.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Okay, can you pull back a little bit. I want
to make her more attractive? How about Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Gotta love the wise ass cameraman. But it's yeah, that's
that's on the horizon. It comes up what I think
the first week of next month.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
So yeah, yeah, I think I know it's before it's
in the single digits of next month. So we should
be drowning in Shottenford for the next show.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yeah, we're I think the next show is going to
be very, very good for us on that front. But
at the bath Is it was pretty notable. It looks
looks to me like Amelia Perez. Everybody is trying to
get away from this thing because they basically awarded everything
at this award show. I just ran through the list
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and you know, this one got best movie, doesn't got
Best Director. And the only thing they really gave to
Amelia Perez was an actress nod.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah, not actress, not even for the lead actress. It
was she didn't get it. And I'm can you feel
the air quotes I'm putting on actress because I'm laying
them on pretty thick. Anyway, it was southend for supporting actress.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah, and understand that they I'm doing that on purpose.
We're we're being heavily. This is why I hate this bable.
You gotta fracture. They had a good the actress, the
actor slash. They lead again in December heavily. Oh man,
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look at this. We nominated first trans and now everybody's like,
oh crap, what have we done? Because pretty much their
entire social media has come out and if you didn't
know it was a trans individual, you'd swear they were maga.
Hollywood wants nothing to do with them. The director, I think,
has stopped talking with the everyone and the Academy I
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think is like trying to figure out what the hell
to do. I've already voted, Can I get that back
kind of thing out?
Speaker 3 (09:46):
So sick backpedal, bro I'm voting for agenda.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Fuck geez, I didn't see that hitting me in the
face really because everybody else did. But okay, you own it.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
But talking about Agenda the bath, it was just a
terrible night for the narrative. I mean you had Mark
Hamill's pants falling off. Yeah, you had Amelia Perez just
being completely ignored. And then when we were talking later
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about well, when we're talking later about doctor Who, how
the narrative is crumblings for such a country that is
wholeheartedly embraced the narrative watching it crumble within the span
of a week. But yeah, we'll call it a month
since Trump, Well, no, we'll call it a week. In
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the last week, it has just been the narrative constantly
feeding quarters into the dick punching machine. They just can't
catch a break.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah, it's it's really amazing to watch that again, you know,
put in the framework of what the left three four
or five years, where we just had woke shoved down
our throats, almost like we were a lab rat with
an injector shoved in our throat and they were pumping
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us full of white dark And see if that would
have cancer as a result or something. I mean, that's
what woke was. And in the last year, of course,
the pushback has begun and they can't stand it. Oh
my gosh, this Rond DeSantis is so intoleranting. You mag
of people are so hateful and now it's the dominant culture.
It just is, and this is just getting pushed back severely.
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They can't win anywhere. Their own people are turning against themselves.
The stuff that they're forwarding and praising is falling apart
in their hands. It's just again, you know, the shot
and fright is there because you just you have to
just savor this happening. For years we said this isn't tenable,
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it's not gonna work. You can't pick movies based on
checkboxes and things of this nature. Okay, go ahead and
do it. Let's see what happens. And now we are
they are in.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
The fo aspect of Hollywood today.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Well, yes, it is what I did like to see
from the BAFT though, and this is once again life
imitating art.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
The best picture, the one that swept, the one with
all the awards conclave, a political thriller about selecting a
new pope.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah, it's centered on the Vatican. Well, yeah, Hollywood right
now is basically about the most anti Christian crusade you
can get into.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Right. Well, I mean not just that, but I mean
the pope is quite ill and there is a lot
of talk about Okay, so who's going to be the
next pope? Well, it's time.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
It's almost like it's like Three Mile Island happened when
the China syndrome came out. It's just that kind of
kismet for a studio.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yeah, the Universe loves to the Universe has a sense
of humor.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
But it's uh, I'm just enjoying watching them kind of
stumble with the stuff that they were so insistent upon,
Like this woke nonsense was just you know, everybody loves it.
It's going to make things better. Everything is going to
be improved because of the diversity that we're forcing. And
everything's falling apart. Yeah. Wow, it's almost like every single
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thing you said to us was inaccurate. Curious didn't see
that coming, or did we, But.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Our presence plays out once again. We told we years ago,
We told Hollywood, those that listened to the show, the narrative,
this agenda cannot be sustained these are you're you're the
people who you're catering too. Don't go to those movies.
(14:02):
You know, we were talking about it with most Marvel
films or you know, Star Wars projects and Star Trek projects.
But on the whole, you can't keep your fan base,
you can't ignore them that long, and you can't expect,
you know, keep giving them stories that you know, oh,
you're supposed to feel outraged about this. Nobody can maintain
that emotional level twenty four to seven unless they're psychotic.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I mean, when you wake up and you have to
be angry, that's what it takes anymore to be I
don't know a content provider, but most people don't operate
this way.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
No.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I mean I saw somebody today on social media. They
were upset because Max. That would be HBO Max, the
streaming service. They altered their logo used to be royal blue.
Now what's black and white? So obviously you see the problem, Mordie.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah. Yah, they're removing color from.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
They're catering to the oppressive right wing of this country
by doing that.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Isn't the predominant color in the app black though?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I mean when you just look at them, shift the
color on a logo and automatically go to them. Donald Trump,
I'm sorry, but.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
This is HBO.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Max. Okay, I got two points.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I got two points about that. If America is so racist,
how come everybody uses dark mode on all their apps?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
M I can't believe you went there, but also too guilty.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Yeah, two, the reason for the logo change. And you'll
notice that all of the all of the corporations, all
of the companies, all of the brands are switching to
a low res monochrome.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Icon.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
You don't have, you know, the beautiful artwork. Everybody's going
brutalism with their logos and their app icons and everything
else because people are too fucking stupid to be able
to not just notice at a glance. Boom, that's Max.
I keep wanting to call it HBO because it never
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made sense to me that they changed their name to
the brand that is known for Saturday night skin flicks.
But here we are, so it just they're doing it
to care to you morons, and you're mad about it.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
It's just, yeah, I'm just amazed when I see this
kind of thing, because I'm not that person. So yeah, like,
what was it fifteen twenty years ago when PEPSI changed
their logo to that stupid swirl version of their swirl, right,
I wasn't thinking damn it, Obama or whoever was at
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the time.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
You know.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
It never even dawned on me.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
That I correlation does not mean causation.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I just don't get it how their mind operates that way. Okay, sure,
HBO and Max are catering to the right wing the
company that owns CNN. Well well done, folks, good good
thought you put into that or none as it.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Were really good grocking that out. They really pulled well
overall our eyes until you pointed it out. Thanks, honey.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Well, let's you know, and just to tie a bow
on the baft do is, let's understand that it was
what was it last year or the year before? They
hadn't first it was the BAFTAs. They got everybody upset
because everybody that one was white. Like they take that
one picture of all the winners and I think of
the twenty people, there was one per and a color gasca.
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And then at the Music Awards they that's when they
intentionally got rid of the gender category. So it wasn't
male performer, female performer. We're not recognizing gender. Yeah, and
then all men won and we got nominated, and then
all of a sudden they recognized gender. This isn't fair,
So you got rid of gender categories and one of
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the genders got shut out because of your action, and
you're upset.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Which was the whole reason that the gender categories were created.
And it's much like with sports. Not to say that,
you know, women can't compete on the acting level as men,
it's just at the time, the reason why there was
a separate category for actress was so that way they
would be recognized because it was anyway. It was a
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different time then, but that was the reason behind it.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Well, all the studio heads were men, and they would
nominate men for the roles, and it wasn't fair, so
we have to force actresses on. Fine, are you do actresses?
That's cool. But we've got what sixty seven genders now
or something. Why don't we have that many categories?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Right? I mean, how are you gonna find a film
to nominate somebody from every single gender?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I mean, uh?
Speaker 3 (19:21):
And coming up the best picture, you have the best
performance by a two spirit Filipino Tiltal World operator.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
The polyamorous, non binary Performer of the Year goes to
movie that six people saw. Okay, but.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
And the best bitch in a furry category.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
They just have to they just have to do this
for their own sake, I guess. And as a result,
nobody's watching, nobody's going through these movies. And uh yeah,
like the most popular movies I think, like Dune two
and such didn't even win a single award at the
Baptist That's about it. And there was one Jesse Eisenberg has,
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like a travel comedy. Never heard of it?
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Yeah, never heard of it.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
He won Best Screenplay and Kieran Colkin got Best Supporting
Actor for it. And like he said, like his his
after awards interview said, I'm more popular in this country
than where I live. I'm like, well, fair because I've
never heard of this damn movie. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Just I mean, I'm bigger in Sweden than Abba.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Are you?
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Though?
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Just because you see Mama Mea in the shower doesn't
quite count.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
In front of a live studio audience.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
The acoustics are just out of control, absolutely great. Well,
let's stick with Britain and woke. I mean, it's just
we're just right there in that wheelhouse Anyway, I remember
us talking about Doctor Who about the springtime of last year.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yes, and once again our press sence is going to
shine through.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
They Let's see, they bastardized a lot of their cannon.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
All over it.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
I was being genteel but sure, oftentimes erasing all of
the canon of the series, and figured they were just
gonna go for the Is it trifecta quindela? What do
you call it? When I mean five checkboxes in the
lead role?
Speaker 3 (21:43):
I'm trying to think of what they call it in racing.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Quinela Ironically enough means the first two horses. But anyway,
they cast a person of color who's non binary, but
also get I think it's two or three.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Other things were going on too, but it was like this. Well,
first they brought back the arguably most popular doctor, the
tenth Doctor, David Tennant, for him to regenerate out of him. Basically,
he regenerated out of Tenant's dick. So that's how they
started this doctor's whole.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Uh for a kind of like that Stephen King movie
Dream Catchers where they have atal breaching aliens. Yes, absolutely,
I want to sit in for ninety minutes of this.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Make a break the stereotype.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
But yeah, this is this is a failure across the board.
We talked about it when it came out, how it
was ridiculous. Then we talked about it after it came out,
about how it received the worst ratings in the history
of the show. To get the numbers that they had,
you had to go back to the very first season ever,
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from the nineteen sixties.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Yes, and that was before the show took off. That
was when it was still out. What the fuck is this?
I don't understand what's going on.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Episodes one in three were worse than this year's Doctor Who,
so it's not the worst ever. So you have to
go back forty years to find a lower point than this,
got it? Okay, Well we bring up this road disaster
wheels up in a ditch because it looks like this
could be the end of Doctor Who.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, this season has been basically like Delta landing in Canada.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
A little too early there already but still no.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Never too soon. Nobody died, so we can joke about it.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
The rules. I love how they say that the actor quit,
the lead of this particular series quit, and that this
is why the series is going.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
To be canceled. Yes, why did the actor quit? Though?
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Well, as the headline I'm reading says, woeful ratings and
the fans fury.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Here I go.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
It had to be the fans' fault, didn't it Well?
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Deep in the article, deep in the article, more deeper
than most people would have dug I found it. He
quit because he did not. He says he's got a
lot of projects that are available to him in Hollywood
right now, which is what they always say when they
quit the show. Jen Sometimes it's true. He does fit
in many boxes of what you know, will they're looking
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for in Hollywood. He said he did not want to
be the one responsible for killing Doctor Who that too
much of the agenda, his words has been put into
the scripts, the fans don't like it. And he talked
about how for the sixtieth anniversary three of the plot.
Three of the episode plots they had to talked about were.
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One of them a transperson saves London just because they
happened to be trans, another one David Tennant, the tenth
Doctor realizes he's gay because he has a crush on
Sir Isaac Newton. And then the third one, which is
the one I guess that they went with because he
didn't talk about it. So he's one hundred percent blaming
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BBC pushing the agenda on the show, as apparently a
lot of the production staff are too, but in BBC's
saving face, so they're talking about acting the show because
nobody's watching it.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Well, as I recall when we talked about it, much
of this wokeness was coming from them bringing back one
of the old showrunners and directors, and he was the
one rejecting all this into it.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
So, h oh god, it'll be so great if he
comes back. And then he came back and I was like,
what the fuck happened? What happened to you used to
write good stories?
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I mean, it sounded like he was doing an internship
on the set of The Accolyte based on what he
was saying. It was just, you know, we're gonna go
and push these boundaries and do things the Doctor's never
done before. It's like, Okay, clearly this guy has never
seen this show. Wait a second, he's a director, writer
of the show. What the hell?
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Hey, Jeff, correct me if I'm wrong. But the new
doctor who's are on Disney Plus, right, Yeah, that is correct. Well,
there's your problem right there. That's where they're getting their
marching orders from.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Well, I'm pretty sure from the sound of it. As
I recall when we first talked about it, it was
almost like they brought the old director back and then
he had kind of a pitch meeting with Disney, like
threw ideas at him, and it was probably a case
of him saying something in the suit behind the desk
pointed at him that one go with that. Yes, like,
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so what if we get an African actor who's none
by gay and we make the doctor, uh, just all
of that, every do all of it. And they did,
and look what happened.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
So apparently if the show remains, they've already filmed his
death sequence, and if the show remains, it's going to
be David Tennant again. Well, now I know Tom Baker
in The Three Doctors said even revisit some of my
(27:35):
old faces every now and then. This will be the
third time. And I think it's because they can't get
anybody but Tendant to do it anymore.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
And I think he was also the last time they
had a high water mark in the series. From the
looks of it, like he was somewhat beloved when he
was the doctor.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Oh he's absolutely beloved.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
And you know, since they've gone, you know, let's go
with the female, let's go with the work, let's go
with the game non binary and all this stuff, and
it keeps failing, and they have to keep going back
to what worked without dawning on anybody that they should
do that.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Oh, it's obviously the actor.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
No, I don't understand how the stuff that's just right
there and so obvious for you and I on this
show is something that.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Is why this show because the entertainment, the business side
of the entertainment industry is so baffling that it is
successful despite itself. It's like, what do you have again?
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Success?
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Now, I'll be making so much money?
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Want to do that? Okay?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I just I mean this is every mocking elevator pitch
we've ever given on the show. They actually take it
to heart and do it.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah, we've we've just said things in a half assed
fashion here of like you know what would be better
and then that we know that would be a million
dollar idea that they'll never touch.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
It's just yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Just right there, and they've refused.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Here's, by the way, commenting on one of the sidebar
stories from this article. Can we get ariana grandi a
fucking sandwich? Please?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
This girl's dying, haven't insure honey? Yeah, I know. I
was like that during their press tour. It was like,
you are just wispy, aren't you. It's not a good look. No,
I don't remember the good Witch being emaciated. What's that
(29:52):
with a plot point? I could have missed something in
one of the books. I don't know everything, but the
I tell you why. I think there's a reason they
still do some of this because we just saw Disney
come out with their quarterly numbers. And this is Hollywood,
so this is this is the place that generates fiction.
(30:17):
Of course, their quarterly reports are gonna look good. Like
one of the headlines said, oh Disney wow's investors. And
then I look at it and they said that of
course that they always pumped the positive. So hey, Disney
Plus turned a profit for the third straight quarter. Now
you gotta understand the wording there. Okay, Yes, Disney Plus
(30:42):
turning a profit is somewhat novel, because, as we've talked
about it, it's been a billion yeah dollars siphon on
the company for years. But they didn't say profits increased. No,
they didn't say no.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
They were well, here's the thing nature a hundred. If
you're at a hundred and then you drop to twenty five,
and then you go to twenty six, twenty seven, and
twenty eight, that is three solid quarters of verne of
you know, being profitable. The seventy five percent loss you
took in the first quarter, though.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
There's that, Yes, there's there, and you had to kind
of cut through the numbers to find things out where
it was like, okay, and our subscriptions did better than expected. Yeah,
and I was like, okay, there's some curious language. And
then we come to find out that subscriptions actually fell,
(31:45):
but they didn't.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Just as much as they expected.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
So way, we only lost two percent of our subscribers.
We thought it was gonna be three and a half.
And this is good news.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Okay, Yeah, Disney Plus turning a profit. It's because they
had to shave a billion dollars off of production. What
you're going to be getting from Disney Plus is going
to be a billion dollars lighter than it was last year.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yes, And why did they have subscriber flight? They raised
subscription rates, so you're going to be paying more to
receive less. That's not a grand business knowledge. I mean,
I didn't go to Harvard Business School. But charging more
for Lewis it's like shrink flation and inflation combined. How
(32:37):
about that?
Speaker 3 (32:38):
You know? I think it was a Wendy's commercial that
used that as a parody back in the eighties, when
like they were still selling ninety nine per cent burgers
and McDonald's and Burger came went to a buck fifty.
You're paying for more and you're getting I actually remember
that in ad an ad line for one of the
burger companies, and I think it was Wendy's.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Where's the content?
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Disney Plus uses it as their fucking model.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Also, let's factor in they've gone through a slew of
layoffs at the company to cut costs. So you're raising
subscription rates and you are losing subscribers, but you cut
your workforce and you've managed to turn a profit this quarter. Okay,
(33:26):
I see now, so this isn't gleaming success. This is
things aren't as horrible as we thought.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
This is We've got a whole bunch of gauze on
the hemorrhaging. Will it work, we don't know. But you
know what We're trying, damn it, but they still learn
the less They still haven't learned their lesson as to
why all these woes are upon them. If you go
back to when we started the show, we would not
(33:55):
we could not stop singing Disney's praises. We it was
like they could do no wrong. Then the last three years,
since the middle of COVID, they can do no right. Well.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
It's this is kind of reflective of what I see
in the media news media that I cover. Is that
I even I wrote about it a little bit today,
where there's there is this recognition of a problem, both
in Hollywood and in the press, and they're like, man,
we're losing all this audience. We're having to lay people off,
(34:30):
subscribers are going down. Yes, there's a problem. They don't
acknowledge what's causing it though. On both sides, the press
won't fix their crooked agendas and Hollywood doesn't want to
get away from the woke. And because they still managed
(34:50):
to turn a profit. They're not they're making like twenty
percent of the money they made five to ten years ago,
but they're still turning a profit. So good it's working.
They say in their own mind, it's not us, it's.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
The viewing public. No, it's not me, it's those kids
that are wrong. They are doing the meme.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah, exactly. Let's blame the audience and then they'll come
back to us. Yes, that's gonna happen. You hate filled,
homophobic racist that won't watch our program, come by tickets
to our next movie.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
We don't want you misogynistic humps to come watch our
Charlie's Angels, Oh nin, just don't want a strong female character. No,
you told me not to come.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, it's Charlie's Angels failed because it was sexism. Yeah
that's yes, that's exactly why this has been a successful
property for four decades and you just killed it.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
And you know it's gonna be Racism is why snow
White fails. You know that, right?
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Oh sure, sure absolutely. That's why I'm going after this show.
I'm gonna be watching their press tour very ardently, because.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
It's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Interesting to see how much of a muzzle they put
on her.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
If I don't think they're gonna let her talk, I
think they're just gonna send Galgadad out and just call
it good.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Well, that would be the wise thing to do, which
means they won't. Okay, wait a second, you got the
smoking hot actress everybody likes.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Can't have her?
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Jesus, that's who you want. Oh, that's true.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
That's what I want to That's what we do. We need,
We need the Palisades out there protesting America's sweetheart. We gotta.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
We should do that. We should start to count Palestinians
against No White.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
I think I got a burner I could use those.
You see that happen unless you see some like snarky
remarks about some amishness in there. It's not me, but
if you out there and it's you know, I mean yeah,
(37:11):
I mean we could just see this.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
That's the funny part.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
You just know it's possible, so fucking predictable in everything
they do.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
I mean, I want to see anyone else see it.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Well.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
That's a funny thing too, though, is if we do
get a Palestinian backlash against No White, they won't be
able to castigate them. Well, we didn't make this movie
for you anyway. That would be the last thing they'll
ever say, so they'll have to suck it up. If
the Palestinians actually get mad.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Wow, yeah, knowing Disney. They'll just retcon ull get that
straight out. They'll just take the Evil Queen straight out.
Let's go to all our scenes.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Yeah, just animator like you did with the Dwarves.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
No, no, just completely remover like you know, kind of
like they did with random Star Wars where they you know,
when they sent the picture to the you know, the
one shots to China. You know, he was featured in
the American and then cut it down, put him in
the back because they don't like black people in China.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
So oh man, it's uh, I could see it. I
could see it. That would just be too great. But
this this is something I've just been wrestling with for
I mean for quite a while, but especially in the
last week. And that is the there's such a warped
(38:36):
approach to censorship going on right now that it makes
absolutely no sense. So of course it's only getting louder.
Oh yeah. And this kind of started about a week
ago when jd. Vance gave that speech in Europe and
he dared look the European leaders in the eye and
(38:57):
say something truthful.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
You son that you bustard.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
So he basically told them, yeah, and he even mentioned
that I think did he bring up Thunberg.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
I think he did voisted this twelve year old on.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Us and told us, wed, you can't say that she's
our patron saint. Well, I just said, because I'm an
American pig dog, that's what I do.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
But they.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
The press lost their mind about this, like he barely
got done saying the sentence and the press was losing
their ever loving mind because he was anti censorship. This
is where we are in our press corps. Yeah, the
free pressed one censorship. Well, I mean it makes sense
because it's like Kean said, we're all reporters now, so
(39:52):
I mean, the legacy media is completely losing any gravitas
they had. So they spend what three four days screaming
about him saying this, then sixty minutes comes out to
prove him correct.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Right segment, Jadie Vance is wrong. Here, let's tell you
how everything he said is true, but we agree with it.
So he's wrong.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
And Aggie and I talked about this at length the
other night. But in Germany they are stepping up their
speech laws, like you can get in severe trouble for
what you say or more likely wh print online. Literally
they are literally going with word police. It's not even
(40:44):
a joke. I mean that used to be a punchline
on social media forever. Okay, word cop you know now
it's like, no, they're doing it.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Okay. So while we're talking about that, you use Twitter.
Have you ever got woken up in the morning and
found an email in your box from Twitter saying a
post of yours was reported in violation with German laws,
But our account shows that you're not German, so our
record show that you're not from Germany, so no action
(41:14):
will be taken against you at this time.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
I have not had the pleasure no, Okay, well, yeah,
I wear it like a badge. I almost wish I
would get one of those.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
I almost want to put I I think I deleted
the email. I I've gotten it a few times, but
I want next one I get. I'm gonna I'm just
going to you know, I'm gonna take a screenshot of
it and make it my header. That's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
I mean I have been that asshole, like when some
of the police departments in Britain. Would you know, anybody
that says anything bad about us is going to be
sighted and then not just you know right back, Hey,
fuck tards, where's my ticket?
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Right.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
But in Germany literally they are police to the point
that if you say something, it's not even hate crime.
They say insult. If you insult somebody, So you can
say something not a hate crime, but if the other
person's offended not just get reported to or you get
a ticket, and if you get multiples, you can get
(42:18):
arrested for what you say. And sixty minutes.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Germany and truth social today too. Oh no, you're Ukraine
did right.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Yeah, he got offended by Elon Zoe. Well you get
use your social media anymore. That's what it's funny is that.
So he's offended by things Elon said, so he shut downs.
He shuts down.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
Trump's, Well he blocks Trump's Uh so well no, no,
I'm pretty sure that X is Elon Musk's see, and
that's just it. If he had any balls, he would
have shut down X. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
But here's the thing too, I don't know that he
wants to get into a beef with Elon Musk because
who's providing starlink to the Ukraine? Right, So there's that issue.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
There's that. So that's Oh you want to shut down X,
I can shut down the internet.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
There, We'll make sure you don't get it or anything else.
But yeah, that's probably a case of I don't like
what you're saying. I'm going to go after your boyfriend,
and there it goes true social so that's yeah, so
that's happening. But yeah, in sixty minutes they were applauding this. Yeah,
(43:43):
that's the part I can't wrap my head around. They're
listening to them, They're like, now the reporter was almost
wrapped with attention, Like, wow, okay, so what if you
retweet something that's about two we will arrest for that.
So you can retweet something something you didn't even say,
you can get your trouble for in sixty minutes, it's
(44:06):
like hmmm, wow, yeah, let's go with that. And now
this is where it gets great. The justification for all
of this is misinformation. We have to fight misinformation and
this is the way to do it. On the same
(44:27):
episode of sixty Minutes, they did a piece about some
fire USAID workers.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
Hmmm, oh, you mean the one that was the assistant
for Samanth House.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Then we come from doubt. Yes they work, even employees,
they were contract workers. Yeah, they have like seven figure
jobs in another company, right, and we're working with the
executive of USAID. So it's like, oh, how are we
gonna pay for our nanny? Now?
Speaker 3 (44:59):
Okay, got it?
Speaker 2 (45:01):
So we got to stop misinformation and arrest people for it.
By the way, here's some misinformation on US.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Well. I mean it makes sense when you realize that
it's CBS, the news organization. CBS News, the news organization
that got busted not once but twice for using footage
of Italian hospitals and saying that they were New York
hospitals overcrowded during COVID and correct me if I'm wrong.
(45:30):
Isn't that where Dan Rather came out of Indeed.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
And this is the same same network, same program, in fact,
in fact, it was the same reporter that did this
German that also went after run DeSantis during the vaccine
and tried to concoct that controversy. He's given this to
one of his campaign donors. He's like giving anything. They're
giving away a free vaccine to the citizens that you
(45:57):
were just barking about two weeks ago, right, this this entirely.
It was so funny. This story was debunked a day
before broadcast, that's how bad it was, and they still
put it out. So this is what's going on anymore. Meanwhile,
the Federal Trade Commission under Donald Trump is going to
(46:19):
go after big tech companies for censoring people.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
That's awesome, that's because the problem the Trump the fascist
that Trump is going after censorship. That that's that's what
fascists do. Well, this isposing censorship, but going after companies
engaged in it, going after individuals engaged in censorship.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Yeah. This, of course, these are the same people that
when Ron DeSantis said, you know what, there's no more
mask mandate. It's up to you make a choice if
you wear one or not. You're a fascist, so you're
allowed to do whatever you want. That's the opposite fascist.
But and this is the same press corps. Now that's
(47:10):
mad that we're slashing government spending and waste.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
How dare you.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
The people in the government, people who don't want to
come in the office, they're saying, great, you don't have
to come in. We're going to close the office. You
can't do that.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
You're not going to go anywhere.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
The building's not being used. We're going to close the building.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
This is where we're at anymore. The stuff that they
were calling for three five years ago, we're actually seeing
happen and they're getting upset. I just have to laugh.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
What I like. What I like about this with the
FCC is the one session that's going after the tech
companies and they are soliciting comments. So if you have
any comments you would like to submit to the FTC
regarding censorship that you have experienced on social media, you
have until May twenty first to submit them. And that
(48:14):
doesn't just go for social media. I mean, well, yeah,
I guess you could call it YouTube, social media you
know as well, but any platform that you have experienced
because they're talking about going after Bezos and Amazon Reviews
and yeah, bullying by tech companies.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
Yeah, I mean it's possible. There's going to be pretty
tough to winnow down and find out and then enforce,
but it's encouraging nonetheless, I mean go for it. Yeah,
I'm as you know, anti censorship, free speech as you
can get. With the exception of you know, bomb threats
in frontening people's lives and stuff like that. I mean,
(48:55):
there are certain.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
You can only do that if you're a setting House representative.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Yeah. Did you see today too, David Hogg was upset
because they sent him a letter of investigation.
Speaker 3 (49:08):
Because Garcia got the letter. Yeah, so those of you
who don't know the story. Rep Garcia said that Elon
must be Elon Musk must be stopped, even if it's
with actual weapons. So he got a letter saying this
is a threat. And the letter came from the DJ
And I didn't read the whole text of the letter.
I was just having a fun time watching David Hogg
(49:30):
lose shit over it. And Rep. Garcia says, this is
what happens when you're critical of the administration. No, you
made an actual, legitimate, quantifiable threat that is still up.
You haven't deleted it.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
Yeah, I seem to be called. During the Biden administration,
there was an individual who threatned Joe Biden's life in
similar fashion ended up getting shot in the street.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
Yeah, my authorities, Yes.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
I mean used to be you would regard threats of
violence against sitting politicians as a serious offense. Hello, segret
service doj right. So he comes out, he's like, can
you believe they did this? And David Hogg is like,
fuck truck funk chuck, fuck chuck, fuck most vot driving.
(50:21):
So David, you're now cool with people threatening others with
weapons and just be clear on that. David Hogg, anti
gun nut from.
Speaker 3 (50:31):
As you have been standing on the corpses of your
classmates for the last several years, you are now in
favor of armed resistance.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
I was at the public store where he and others
staged a die in at the dairy section to commemorate
the shooting a few years ago.
Speaker 3 (50:53):
Okay, why the dairy section.
Speaker 2 (50:57):
I think because it was really hot outside. Okay, you know,
and that's where they have the exposed cooler so you
can Yeah, floors, floor is pretty cold there when you're
laying down.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
So large generally it's a larger section too.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
But I just I got a kick out of the
people that would like goose step around them to get
to the eggs. Hi, excuse me, pardon, I'm just going
to excuse me. Sorry, there we go. Okay, thank you.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
It's like a Chris and Gilder Brands campaign event. I'm
just trying to get some ranch.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
Was like, what are you? Are you all dead? That's
so cute? Is this like a school project? And I'm
just going to get some non fat coffee right there?
Speaker 3 (51:36):
You Yeah, well you're closer. Can you just hand it
to me?
Speaker 2 (51:40):
No? I know you're dead. But can you just the
cool web right there?
Speaker 3 (51:45):
Oh and then nestly quick while you're in the right right, No,
by your right hand. There you go, thank you?
Speaker 2 (51:51):
No, I probably you.
Speaker 3 (51:52):
I shouldn't make in.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
We haven't had a school shooting since then, so maybe
it worked. I'm just okay, got to give props word,
you know, recognition. But yeah, that's taking place. So David
hoggs in favor of threatening people with weapons. The press
is in favor of censorship, and they hate smaller government
(52:16):
and less wasteful spending. We might have Republicans in the
White House for twenty years.
Speaker 3 (52:24):
We may have Republicans in the governor's mansion in California.
This keeps up.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
Now, let's pump the brakes a little already, like get crazy.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
Okay, Look, you know when when the rest of the
country went Cuinton, we had Wilson and Duke Magion. We
were still doing all right.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
Said I don't want to step on your dreams or nothing,
but I mean I dream the impossible dream.
Speaker 3 (52:47):
It's like I hope that some people will be less
retarded when they come into my mentions. Never happens, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
Don't ever stop never giving up right.
Speaker 3 (52:58):
Never give up, never surrender. So you gonna take a
break real quick. I'm getting a little parched here.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
Yes, absolutely, go go ahead and lubricate the throat. I'll
do the same. Everybody hit the lobby, go get some refills,
and we're gonna be right back soon enough. Here wrong
because you.
Speaker 6 (53:55):
Were not Anna midnight GOLs on my way again, not
sister mosty, gonna treat my.
Speaker 5 (54:06):
Hands be nails? What you the brother say? What's the batter?
I said? You'll signs are made because that's yo. Break
the train. Don't chill guy, don't you trad? I'm mad.
(54:28):
Don't chill trad. Don't till tide I met something back,
don't till t walk the ground of me to wasn't
the fire with a rousing song? You wouldn't name you
(54:52):
gotta fool our rage because you know won't be da
might not what's calling the funny? Not even taking it
down when I won't.
Speaker 3 (55:07):
The tiny.
Speaker 2 (55:10):
Shot.
Speaker 5 (55:10):
Don't go to down dolty side all to side.
Speaker 3 (55:20):
To side.
Speaker 5 (55:21):
I get something about back.
Speaker 3 (55:25):
To side.
Speaker 5 (55:30):
The way some time? Mightn't caday you don't know him
time ms side nonside not inside.
Speaker 2 (57:22):
A right, Welcome back to the culture shift where we
are delving into the Hollywood backstreets and basically the office ways.
The business side. Yeah, we don't deal with the culture
of uh, you know, scandal and all that, the paparazzi
and nonsense. We kind of delve into the serious matters
(57:45):
that operate this town and then laugh our ass off.
Speaker 3 (57:48):
Well, I learned celebrity godstuff against my will. That's why
I have no idea what's going on, what's like, what
the whole thing? But I have no idea what that's about.
Speaker 2 (57:57):
Well, yeah, it's the whole appeal of all of this,
the dream factory, and they donate here to anything close
to reality in operating their businesses.
Speaker 3 (58:07):
Well, let's see much of MBA's they obviously never paid
attention in class.
Speaker 2 (58:13):
Yeah, there, their business practices don't make sense, So let's
let's make it worse and investigate what's Elizabeth Warren doing.
Speaker 3 (58:23):
With all this?
Speaker 2 (58:25):
Jesus Christ, there's no better way to bring clarity to
a topic than to have Liz get involved.
Speaker 3 (58:31):
Yeah, she seems because if you want a real strength shooter.
Speaker 2 (58:38):
Her entire career anymore is basically complaining about what businesses
are doing, is all it really comes down to which is.
Speaker 3 (58:46):
My favorite bit of political irony, because I remember when
she had a campaign fundraiser and a bank vault. I'm
appropriately ironic, I'm not being sarcastic. It was a catered
campaign fundraiser in a bank vault.
Speaker 2 (59:05):
Of course it was because I don't know, does she scalp?
I am I allowed to say that that's.
Speaker 3 (59:15):
Gonna go great with it? You know what? You know what? Sorry,
we got to follow up with after this one for
that then, hm hm, anyway, the uh, I'll let you,
I'll let you segue Latin. Okay, all right? Cool?
Speaker 2 (59:28):
But what has Liz all hot and bothered in the
wigwam this week? She wants to get the do j
Anti Trust Division to get after Disney with their Fubu
attempt to dominate the sports market. Remember, this is the
(59:49):
this is the enterprise we've been talking about where it
was a combined effort with a number of entertainment entities.
They were going to basically corner sports with streaming. Is
gonna be what forty fifty dollars a month for ESPN
on steroids or something. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
Yeah, we talked about that and we I mean, just
again with our press siens. We'll see how it plays out,
but you and I are both certain this venture will fail.
Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Yeah. The very thing that people were moving away from
cable to go into streaming over something they wanted to do.
Let's compile everything here, forcing on people and overcharge for
what they don't want.
Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
Yes, how could this rail?
Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
And I was under the impression that's already had This
entire deal.
Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
Probably has because we haven't heard Dick about it since
we covered it in like November, I think it was
October November we were talking about that.
Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
We got a couple of times. I mean, they kept
hyping as like their talks are underway, this is going
to come out, and then the last I heard a
couple of months ago was like, oh yeah that thing, Nah,
we can't do it, like literally with too many chefs.
Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
And in like this case, that Liz Warren is you know,
worried about you know, Trump's FTC and DOJ prosecuting anti
trust violations, and she wants to make sure that you know, Disney,
this deal Disney has where they wanted to take seventy
percent to take a fubo. I'm pretty sure this deal
(01:01:23):
has already fallen through. Yeah, it's like not on the
table anymore.
Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Well, this is where I'm confused, because she's she's worried
about competition in the streaming where's she been for the
last year because consolidation has been happening all over the place.
I mean Showtime got rolled into one of them. Paramount
is basically pouring out any of their product and Netflix
and anybody else try to get numbers.
Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
Disney has half the space with Hulu and Disney plus.
Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Yeah, i mean everybody cleared out of Hulu and now
it's theirs because they own Fox. So yeah, they've already
got the market corner on that side. It's happening. What
are you doing, Liz, Yeah, this.
Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
Has been going on for a while. This is I mean,
we've been lamenting this for at least two years. You know,
everybody was complaining about, oh, there's just too many streaming services,
like this is what we always wanted. We always wanted
all the cart programming, you know, we we the reason
we all left cable was because we were forced to
pay for channels. We never want all five hundred of them.
(01:02:28):
So we get all the cart programming, and everybody bitches
about it's too confusing. This is. This goes back to
what Henry Rowlins has always said, and even going to
the Devo song, you don't want freedom of choice, they
want freedom from choice. It is.
Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Yeah, it seems to be the case. You know, this
is what the people demanded this so they hate it.
Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
Yeah, but what fu this sucks? Maybe we didn't want this.
Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
Meanwhile, we got Liz Warren slam in the barn door shuts.
Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
There and that's it.
Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
No more cows are allowed out of here. It's a
great good jobs. They're already gone.
Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
They're all gone. But okay, I mean even even on
the fasts to be dominates, to be in Roku.
Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Yeah, but I think they all use the same Pluto platform.
Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
Probably, But I've come to find out to be is
like Alice's restaurant.
Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Kind of.
Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
And the the ads aren't shitty. You know, they only
hit you with a couple of breaks. You got a timer,
so you know exactly how long they give it. A
little you know, the little countdown dial in the corner,
so you know you've got time to run to the
bathroom and make some more popcorn or you know whatever.
You know, chill whatever you're doing.
Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
Yeah, I don't, I don't understand the complaint from her though,
it's just let this shake out. Nobody's She makes it
sound like Disney to but they've got ninety five percent
of the marker or something.
Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
No, stop it, no, because if I remember, right, Disney
didn't get Fox Sports in the deal. They didn't get
Fox News or Fox Sports. They only got twentieth Century Fox.
Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Yeah, they well they got that. They have the FX channel.
Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
Well that was all part of Fox program Fox, I mean,
not scripted programming.
Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Yeah, they don't. They don't get the broadcast side of Fox.
They get the cable side, with the exception of the news. Yeah,
but it's you know, all the fast services they run
on the same framework. But then they have their own
select programming as well, you know, to be exclusive only
on the Roku channel, that kind of stuff. But right,
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they all share the same platform. There's no problem here.
I don't That's the thing. I don't know what who
Who's she helping here? Because right now we just got
a bevy of choices. We can go wherever the hell
we want. Cancel it.
Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
She wants to be mad at Disney, and quite frankly,
if Disney gets their dick knocked in the dirt a
little bit more just for all their fuckery. I'm not
opposed to it, but this is just this is old
woman shrieks at clouds.
Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
Yeah, and it ends up being like the super Bowl.
I don't care really who wins this, to be honest,
I don't like and they both lose. Let's just have
it cost each of them a ton of money. But
if it's her, it's going to cost us money. That's
what it comes down to.
Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
Yeah, I mean it's not I mean, yeah, there's consolidation
in the space, but it's not like you're not getting
your sports from other locations because every individual sport has
its premiere network, you know, And we talked about that
with CBS. They've almost gone complete their revenues.
Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Is basketball now, Yeah, getting fractured because there I think
NBA's latest contract is with three networks, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
Yeah, but two of them are cable YadA.
Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Yeah, that's what I was shrieking about. Sorry, okay, but
it's yeah, it's getting to the point. And actually hockey
is the same too. It's difficult to watch the NHL
because it'll be on ABC, TNT, ESPN, depends on what night.
Who's playing. That's kind of why they're right toilet. Yeah,
(01:06:39):
the you know, this Four Nations tournament though, they got
some killer ratings for that last Canada USA game was
like four and a half million. Yeah, that's good, if
only they would listen. But no, every everything's got to
be fractured. Everything's across the entire map. So she's complaining
about something that's not a problem, which is well, that's.
Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Again another metaphor for government right there, create a choices.
Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
It's uh, it cracks one up. So what was your
You had a segue here?
Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
Yeah, the segue is into uh, you know, we were
talking about tickets, uh going over to uh Live Nation.
If you're not familiar with the Live Nation, is there
the conglomerate that has absorbed ticket Master and most of
venue ticketing. They're reporting a twenty three billion profit of
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last year as concert demand rises.
Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Now, how much of that is Taylor Swift?
Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
Okay, yeah, it was the Airs tour, so but you
know it, there are a lot of especially in the eighties,
all rock space. They're all going on tour again and
they're staying on tour and they're packing the house, you know,
like Tears for Fears, I mean be fifty twos. They've
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been doing their thank in Vegas for a while to
just sold out and you know all these you know,
these old bands again just showing how everybody hates fucking
auto tune and the completely spiritless music that is processed.
Now you've got bad members in their sixties going out
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on tour and packing it. Duran, Duran, Depeche Mode. They
all were on tours last year, they're and some of
them were on tour this year. And but anyway, so
Live Nations reporting a uh, you know, with an operating
income of eight hundred and twenty five million. They reported
twenty three billion in revenue last year, with concert attendants
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up four percent and one hundred and fifty one million
fans visiting over fifty thousand Live Nation events through the
course of last year.
Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
Well see, I think the real motivation behind this is
that the segue Okay, there were, but there is a
novelty built into this. So you'll go to these shows
and the kids today are gonna be like, I don't
get it, what's the appeal? What is going on here?
It's like, all right, well check up on stage, or
you see what's in their hand. That's called an instrument,
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and it actually produces the music you're hearing.
Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
They're doing it.
Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
Oh stop it come on, is all recorded? No, watch
him because he's he's actually see how his fingers are moving,
and you hear something in tandem with that motion and sank.
That's a thing. So that's there. There is that. I mean,
it's just like, holy crap, are they still alive? Let's go,
we have to go. I used to.
Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
I saw them four.
Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Times in nineteen eighty five, and you know, that kind
of nostalgians built into it, and I think there's still
a bit of a holdover from the pandemic to where
people are just like, fuck, yeah, I want to get
out of the house and do this. Remember I went
to five concerts last year. Yeah, it's kind of a
cool thing to do. It's a throwback, like we can
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get into a massive people not worry about our health
or our safety and just things that may not be
to the optimum of our health, and have a great
time doing it. Sure you know how, Yeah, just that
kind of behavior that the repressed conservatives are prone to. Yeah,
(01:10:37):
going out of misbehaving in a crowd of people, get
off my lawne. But that's just because I don't want
you working here while I'm out of a concert. I
find that if I'm saying get off my lawn is
because the damn leaf flower when I'm trying to record. Yeah,
that's that's the old man complaint these days, but it's
that's definitely the thing. I mean. I was cracking up
(01:10:58):
at how many how many acts from the eighties had
like residencies in Vegas. Yeah, YouTube, Like, I never would
have thought Ario was a Vegas act. They were I
don't know, want to say Caesar's.
Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
Well, what's funny is I did see Ario in Vegas. Well,
not in Vegas proper. I saw them out in prim
which is on the Nevada border, and they were playing
with Cheap Trick. This was like twenty years ago, but
not Vegas proper, but near Vegas.
Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Actually, I think I saw that tour the uh. I
think they stopped at at the racetrack here. There was
a for a couple of years, golf Stream was putting
on concerts like on Saturday, trying to draw people out,
and I think I saw Cheap Trick and Ario the
same day. Yeah, so a dozen times.
Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
You can't go wrong with greater elet Man. Never mind,
that's nothing, but that's cold neeering.
Speaker 6 (01:12:06):
Yeah. So uh.
Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
Uh. What's interesting about this too is that the uh,
the CFO of Live Nation, Joe Burschell, said that in
twenty twenty five, ticket prices will be going up, but
they have noticed there, they've found that sweet spot that
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people can still afford to attend the concert, but the
amount of scalping has been exponentially reduced. Yeah, it's there,
you know, you know, And the argument is that if
you if your price is too low, if your price
is too reasonable, then you know your whole floor is
empty because the scalpers got them all. So in you know,
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people making money on those shows or the scalpers even
if they don't sell the tickets. So that he says
that they've found that sweet spot where the band is happy,
the venues are happy, his company's happy, and the attendees
are happy and the scalpers are sad.
Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
So well, you're not gonna please everybody, no, I mean,
you can't.
Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
Yeah, but they they what they've been holding their breath
on too, is they are actually again talking about that
previous story. They are under an antitrust investigation suit with
the d O j for them being a monopoly now
(01:13:35):
that since Live Nation bought Ticketmaster. But uh, they're they're
wondering if Trump's FTC will prosecute or if they're going
to go forward.
Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
With the case. So you mean Liz Warren isn't on
this case.
Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
See now this is okay. Once again, this is what,
if anything, she should have been railing against.
Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
I mean, who is their compantyed in ticket sales? That's
called cornering the market, Elizabeth.
Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
Yeah, well here's a segue for you.
Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
Since we uh, since we're talking about music, we can
go over to Spotify and not talk about music.
Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
Right for a change. Spotify now that they have go ahead, Well,
I just.
Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
There's there's so much touchstones attached to this story. But
one of the things Spotify is like really getting into
all kinds of audio formats. So you know, people used
to think that's where you go for music, but they've
just they've invested huge in podcasts for the last few years,
a ton of money.
Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
Joe Rogan, We're not making any money from them, but
we're on Spotify.
Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
Oh yeah, they've you know, they've really expanded in that front.
One of the other areas they're getting into now audio books,
and we talked.
Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
About this a couple of years ago when they first
started learning with the idea.
Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
Here's the wrinkle though, They are seeking to employ artificial
intelligence book readers, so the narration on your audiobook would
be through AI.
Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
Remember when all the voice actors went on to strike
a couple of years ago, saying how indispensable they were.
Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
Well, this is where I'm going. It's like, this is
the kind of thing that Hollywood was striking over. Weren't
the voice actors part of that?
Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
Or is they had their own They had their own
a couple of years ago, and that was when AI.
Nobody would think of them ever using AI to.
Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
Well that's the audio side of AI. Really wasn't a
consideration yet.
Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
No, no, And I gotta be honest, and that we
have Jeff showcasing the skills of audio with AI every
week with a new song for his shows or other shows,
and it's just fucking killer.
Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
Go on, Yeah, I just hate AI narration. I mean
you could pick up on it pretty quickly. I mean
it's almost like that Uncanny Valley effect when you hear it, but.
Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
It's not get it's not like that. And we're okay,
so that would be like that that's your free you
know chat GPT that you see on YouTube channels. That
just again the uncanny valley. They don't it doesn't know
how to pronounce words correctly. It doesn't know how if
you're not writing this, if you're not very careful writing
the script, then it's just one giantry. Yeah, that really
(01:16:43):
bugs the fuck out of me on YouTube videos that
use it. But the good stuff, the good stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
It is getting better, I'll admit that. And they have
it to the point now where different voices like at
first you hear it, you're like, that's a natural voice,
but it only takes about four or five sentences before
you notice there's just the inflections aren't natural there, and
they're REPENTI it's like that's a fucking robot. And then
once you hear it, you can't unhear it. And that's
(01:17:12):
the problem.
Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
That's true. That that's a fair assessment. I mean, while
it is getting better, there still is that you know,
well what it is. Realize The hope is you're invested
in the book by that point, so you know it's like,
I mean, it's it's your it's your actual passion. But
(01:17:34):
with me. It's like once you're invested in a shitty movie,
you can't look away.
Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
M yeah, I burned forty minutes. I got to see
this to the end. YEP, I understand that part.
Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
I'm not pulling the fucking record. I'm riding this thing
into the ground like a fucking dart.
Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
But to me, it's I don't do a ton of
audio books, so it doesn't really bug me, but I
every so often I'll hear it when you know, like
a commercial will come up on a podcast or something
and it's like robots. If I'm listening to natural speech,
you go with it or you tune it out. But
when you start getting that mechanical inflection, it's like, oh
(01:18:14):
damn it. Then it's almost like an earwig you can't
stop listening to. It's like shut up, robot. It completely
pulls you out of it. So I could not do
that with a book.
Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
I know that for a fact.
Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
That would nope, stop, pause, stop done.
Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
That would just be me.
Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
But yeah, I'm I'm this is something I might have
to look into, is where where does this encroach upon
all of the strikes that we endured were AI was
so pre eminent as an argument.
Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
Right, see, And I'm curious. I mean, GROC doesn't do
audio yet, but Groc is pretty fucking good, and I
know there's some ratings that show that it's the number
one AI right now. I know I'm making my own
memes with it now, so that's great. But I'm curious
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when Grock goes audio because it does write text very well.
Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
That's the one thing I have a problem with anytime
I'm trying to use it, like, you know, put this
person in a baseball head and on the head it reads,
that's the part they screw up.
Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
No, because I've got to work, And I just used
Grock three the other day, you know with the nomage
man holding up a sign saying it's a joke, not
a dick, don't take it so hard, and it got
the writing perfect and everything.
Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
So well, they're getting better than But Jeff said, Rock
added voice today, So how about that? Look at us
on the cutting edge?
Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
Yeah we are.
Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
We are right on the precipice there of what's going
on with AI before it puts us out of work.
Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
Right, So we got a show coming up behind us.
We got time for one more story, which one you
want to do?
Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
Well? Why don't we veer over to the MGM.
Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
Yeah, that's that's the most important of all of them.
Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
I think that popped today and I had a lot
of people blathering about it. I can go one of
two ways on this one, but just to set the table.
Over at Amazon Prime, they've been partnering with MGM for
some time.
Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
Yeah, they bought MGM out of I think, out of
their last bankruptcy. It was during COVID because I know,
I was pretty excited as MGM holds the Stargate franchise,
that we might, you know, given what what Prime had
done with the Expanse, I had hoped that they may
do something with Stargate. So I remember I was very
excited about that. This chills me a bit.
Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
Yeah, I think it started actually, like MGM plus, they
actually tried to do that. It's a thing.
Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
It exists.
Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
I swear. They even have original programming and stuff on there.
Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
Yeah, some of it. I watched. Shit they had.
Speaker 2 (01:20:59):
They had to get Shorty TV show.
Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
With Oh I remember that, that's right, MGM Exclusive And.
Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
Yeah, so that started. Then eventually that MGM just kind
of really went into utter collapse and got bought out
by Amazon Exclusive. Now they have their library. Well new
deal has been struck.
Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
In that library. They have the entirety of the James
Bond franchise.
Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
Right, that was basically the only thing keeping MGM afloat
for the last couple of decades. So often they might
have a hit, but they could just rely on James
Bond residuals to keep the doors open. The problem here
is that the the Broccoli family, Yeah, they did the Yeah,
(01:21:52):
the Broccoli family has owned the Bond property since the sixties.
Kubby Broccoli was the one that instituted had bought the
rights for me and Fleming and then has never laquish.
Did it's going down to his family Now, the family
announcement came out today has sold out the rights exclusively
to Amazon.
Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
Well not exclusively, so there's still the partnership. It's the
family with MGM and Amazon. They're they're they're creating their
own company within Amazon that all three are equal partners in.
But the BROCCOLI's and I can't say that without thinking
of Dana Carvey's chopping. Broccoli has relinquished creative control to Amazon.
Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
Yeah, and this is you know, like I was hinting
at it. I can go one of two ways on this.
It's it could be good news, could be bad.
Speaker 3 (01:22:47):
Have you seen the rings of power?
Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
Well, this is what I'm talking about. There's that, but
it hasn't been all horrendous over there at prime. And
the thing is this, the Broccolis have kind of fallen
to a state of stasis with this property because Daniel
(01:23:11):
Craig left years ago, his final shot, you know, big announcement,
this is the last one, got it. They haven't done
much since at all, and there's all kinds of talking.
You know, who's going to be the next what direction
are they going to go in? And this is the
family by the way that all the time Interest Elbow
was there, I mean, in his prime, ready for the role.
Speaker 3 (01:23:37):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
Daniel Craig is doing great, but you're taking six seven
years between pictures. You're not craigking these out in enough time.
And Ilba was finally hitting his strike. He was getting
the popularity he deserved. Hell of an actor, great action actor.
Oh yeah, and yes he's a black man. So if
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you need that check box, you got it. But I'm
not even pushing him for that.
Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
He's just he would have made a great bond.
Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Oh he would have made whatever. When when his name
was popping around here like he's being considered, I was like,
holy shit, that would be Oh do it fantastic? What
are we waiting for?
Speaker 3 (01:24:15):
And then he can he could actually pull off that.
He he could pull off that sweet spot between Roger
Moore and Daniel Craig e the one that is kind
of like the rarefied air that Sean Connor could be.
And I'm not going to equate him to Sean Conry's Bond,
but I'm saying he could be in that space, you know, yeah,
and good have but he has all the.
Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
Badass action guy yes, smooth talking englishman yes. Sexy with
the women absolutely. I mean he would embody Bond just
taken into completely new direction, but all the while being him.
And they never pulled the string.
Speaker 3 (01:24:52):
What No?
Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
Hell? And now dare I say he may have aged out? Well?
Speaker 3 (01:24:59):
I mean again with the Broccolis, they have a very
tight criteria who's allowed to play Bond and Craig aged out.
You know, he had become Bond before he had aged out,
but in his last film he had aged They went
between thirty and forty and that's it, right, So.
Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
But it again they put up these parameters, but then
they don't operate within them. All Right, you want somebody
in that age group, get them, use them, make the movies.
Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
Let's do this' go on, go on social media. There's
a whole laundry list of people you can consider.
Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
But yeah, they don't seem to And what's his name
from the Witcher, I'm pretty sure he could pretty much
fill the bill, could have done.
Speaker 3 (01:25:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
So it's just like there's a couple of like right there.
It's like you don't even have to think about it.
Speaker 3 (01:25:51):
Do it.
Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
People will show up automatic hit. Even if the movie sucks, they.
Speaker 3 (01:25:54):
Want to see them do it, shut up and take
my money.
Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
Yeah. So that's the kind of thing I'm looking at
and saying it's probably not a bad idea. Yes, there's
the rings of power that could happen. But you know it,
I said to somebody today, if they even come close
to something like Reacher or the Terminal List, I'll be happy.
Speaker 3 (01:26:16):
Yeah, do that with Bond, Okay, sure, No, I mean yeah,
Amazon has done worse, but they're also really good at
flash Bang. I mean six Underground. No, No, that was Netflix, No,
that was that was that Netflix?
Speaker 2 (01:26:37):
Yeah, I thought that was That's the thing is like
Amazon every so often can pull it up. They do
the Jack Reacher series, great series. And you know what,
Red One wasn't bad, and that was that was more
of the typical that fell into the Netflix film where
it's just this big, flashy all kinds of crap going on.
(01:26:59):
Hey you see the movie? Yeah, what happened? I don't know,
no idea, no retention.
Speaker 3 (01:27:04):
I saw it, I enjoyed it. Gone, Oh we got
a minute? Where can people find you?
Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
All right? Well, the Unavailable daily over at town hall
dot com. I've got my media column there called Rift
from the Headlines, also on the front page of Red
State Daily. And I've also got a twice weekly podcast
it's called Liable Sources, Diving into the muck and meer
of the mainstream media. I'm also on this network frequently.
Next Thursday, me and Paul Young will be here on
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Where can people find you?
Speaker 3 (01:27:57):
Well? Surprisingly you still find me on the access are
This Packerd. You can find me this Saturday, Rick and
I'll be doing a makeup show of Juxtaposition after French
Porch Forensics. You can find me next Tuesday on Manorama
Panel with Jeff and Vincent and Rick and Steve and
Summer random Canadian. You can find me next Wednesday on
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Rick and Lordy and then I'm off the rest next week, No,
because then I'll be back on Saturday again for another
Juxtaposition went for on a regular time slot. So that's
it for me right now.
Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
Your conspira attainment?
Speaker 3 (01:28:31):
Love it your attainment? Yes? All right?
Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
Well then Ordy and I are going to be keeping
a running list of all of the vital information from
entertainment in Hollywood and be back in two weeks here
on the Culture Shift.
Speaker 3 (01:28:47):
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