The Culture Shift: The Naked Ugly Truth

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:59):
How was it going at everybody out in kay l
r end Land? This is Thursday night. This is your
early introduction to the weekend. This is the culture shift.
I'm Brad Slager. We're getting ready to guide you through
all of the exciting back room, back alley, back studio
information involving Hollywood. But it isn't just me not doing

(01:21):
it alone. Walking beside me on the Walk of Fame
as always every two weeks is America's most digitized and
laser focused Amish individual. Ordi Packard Alorady, what is going
on tonight?

Speaker 3 (01:34):
You know, I'm just out here living the dream in sunny,
scenic California, where had a fire last weekend, snow this morning,
so you know spring is sprung when the weather is sibyl.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Well, you live in dreamland out there, so you should
just refer to that as call it special effects.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah, there we go. How about you house things? Everything
going out in America's now?

Speaker 2 (02:01):
We're going good. We just got off spring break, we
took a road trip to Texas, played with some cattle
for a while and had a good time out there.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Just been there's only two things in Texas and you
just played with the cattle. You're all right?

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yes, well, I think uh out there they at least
go with a third one and add beers to the list.
So I did mind part. I had beers and stiers
when I was out there.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Oh, there you go. Then nice.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
So we've uh, we're about to embark on everything. I
think we got pretty much a cinematic centric episode this time.
Everything kind of focused on theaters good and bad.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, there's uh, there was precious a little and.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
The other.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Genres this week because it is all CinemaCon.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Indeed, indeed we're looking at uh kind of a little
bit of a hype fest going on this week. But
we got to start out. We got to do this
in proper fashion. I think it was last night that
the Dire News broke. We lost a cinematic icon, as
Val Kilmer has passed away. We lost Iceman, a true legend.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
And nothing has annoyed me more on social media than
when everybody's talking about you know, they're doing their bits
about Val Kilmer, and it's all Tombstone and Batman and
not his true his, his magnum opus, his finest performance

(03:38):
Chris Knight in Real Genius.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah, there is, Uh, you know, I think everybody's got
their own favored Val Kimer. This is the guy that
actually had I think, maybe if I'm not mistaken, three
phases of his career. I mean, it just seemed like
he was here and then on the outs, and here
and then on the house. It's just this guy kept

(04:03):
somehow coming back and everybody kept loving him, which is
tough to do in Hollywood.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
I mean it's weird because it's like he I mean,
every time he's come back, he always had the same
level of adoration that he had had on his previous
you know iterations. It's like, I don't know if it
was Hollywood took a break from him, or he took
a break from Hollywood, but whenever he came back, and
you know, the one movie nobody's talking about. I know,

(04:29):
this kind of pisses jeff Off Willow. Actually good, that
was a good movie.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Well, you know, me being me, I of course have
to adhere to some of the lesser and I think
my when I always think of Alcoomer, my mind just
goes automatically to Island at Doctor Moreau.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Oh yeah, I mean that I've meant that movie is.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
It's many people haven't yet I've embraced it. It is.
That is one of the immaculate fiascos of Hollywood history.
I mean, when you've got just more a modern era, well,
I mean you're switching director's midstream, and the prior director
was just so enamored with what was going on that

(05:21):
he snuck back onto the set and became one of
the creatures so he could see what's going on. And
pretty much you had a battle of egos on set,
and val Kilmer wanted the role, then didn't want the role,
but was forced into it and just became a petulant
ass the whole time, to the point at one scene
he was actually wearing a circuit board on his head because.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Why wouldn't you.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
I just you know, these are the things that are
locked in my brain, pan locked in my memory, so
I'll always remember for that. No real genius. I mean,
to this day, I'm the wife had it on earlier
and I was I'm houting lines from it, like I
watched it in. You know, it's just that top secret.
I think this is a film that the the parody

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comedy film. I mean, it created its own genre. That's
where Airplane and everything else sprung out of. And he
nailed that, and then you have him going so many
other venues. He was bat I keep forgetting he was Batman. Yes,
like that, that version of Batman hardly anybody talks about,

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which is weird because it wasn't the worst one, and
maybe that's why.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
But right, I mean it was Yeah, it wasn't Keaton
and it wasn't bat nipples. It was in that place.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, so he's kind of in the decent.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
They only did one.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, it's like Dark Knight, Limbo or something. He's not
even remembered for that. But he was also.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Yeah, you know the question that is no longer valid
because it had Ben Affleck on it. You know, which
of these actors has never played Batman? Now, everybody's gonna
go Val Kilmer.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, it'll definitely trip people up. He's like, wait, what
he never did?

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Ye?

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Dude, Oh that's right.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah. I mean he did a lot of serviceable work,
I mean, just on top of his hits, but I
mean he was consistently not good. But he was in
a lot of the movie I mean, he was good
in the movies that were hits. Yeah, I'm not going
to take anything away from him as Doc Holliday and Tombstone.
I'm not, even though that's not my favorite of his roles.

(07:42):
But yeah, I mean when he was good, he was
really good. And when he was a petulant ass boy.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, I'm one of those that I'm kind of lukewarm
on Tombstone. I know a lot of people love it
to death, but it just strike me is almost like
a stage production of a western. It's not I didn't
feel immersed into that environment. It felt like a bunch
of stars dressing up as cowboys and playing cowboys.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
Thank you. See, on the other end of that, you
had you know, Unforgiven, which he wasn't in. But around
the same time that you had a bunch of stars
dressed up playing cowboy that were fucking good.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yeah, I mean they were in the moment. I mean
it's they weren't wearing you know, four inch wide mustaches
and perfectly tailored cowboy outfits. I mean they had dusters
that get this, actually dusty, and they had beard stubble
and sweat, and yeah, it was realistic where this was
more of like I felt like I was in. If

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you ever seen the movies where they have a stage
play in the West, That's what it felt like. You're
one of those people in the audience watching them put
on a play. And I mean, it worked for what
it was, but it just wasn't realistic to me.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
So you know what it was. It was a few,
It was a quote vehicle. It was entirely a movie
to generate quotes and later, through the magic of the Internet, memes. Yes,
that's about it.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
I mean, to this day, Huckleberry remains ever digitized and
live on the social media platforms. It's going to live
forever probably now. And cool for it. That's great. I'm
not knocking. It just didn't work for me, That's all
I'm saying. But yeah, Kilmer, and he was Jim Morrison.
I know a lot of people adored him in that.
I hate the Doors, so I didn't watch the movie.

(09:40):
Plus it's Oliver Stone and.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
Not and Meg Ryan. I'm sorry, but if Meg Ryan's
not doing rom com, I'm not interested.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Well, and she fucking sucks and everything else.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, she's pretty much. It's like comparing California sparkling whine
the champagne. You know, just stay bubbly, stay in the Mimosa's.
That's what you do. You're not fine dining in back
of rat crystal. Okay, honey, just do the fun stuff
and we'll appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, you've got you've got the rom com laugh, just
like Renees Eliger has that scrunched up no squint and
you stick with what you know.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
But it's just I mean, it's a solid career. And
then he made, you know, this massive comeback in Maverick
while he was incapacitated, and just I have to be honest,
he was actually kind of magnetic without barely speaking. It
was weird and he pulled it off.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
But oh forever Ice Man.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah, that's the thing. He's iceman. He just he nailed
that role. He wasn't overacting in it and you know,
making it about him like he did in so many
other roles. It was really he was just this cocksure
pilot and it worked. So yeah, congrats on that, I guess.
But yeah, he's gonna be missed. This guy was a powerhouse.
He was He was a generational actor. I guess you

(11:11):
could say because he not only was of our generation,
but worked an entire generation length twenty year plus career.
I mean you give it to him. That's good stuff. Yeah,
so that affects us. Yes, we have to start off
on a somber note, but then we can move on
to well somber business.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Oh but the hype trays, she'd be a rolling.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah. The currently taking place as we speak is a
massive event. It's called CinemaCon if you're not familiar with
it by name. This is right in our wheelhouse. It's
just what we do. It's the movie business business side
of it. This is the annual event where the exhibitors
that would be the movie theater owners have They hold

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a huge convention and the studios come out to sell
their product i e. Their movies, and this is you know,
to generate rentals, to get more screen access and build
up the hype for all your massive movies coming up.
And it's just a massive, massive party out in Vegas. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
People have described it as comic con. I know it's not.
It's more like comdex where you have the vendors and
you have the people buying the product, and it's like
here's all the stuff coming out, but it's it's industry specific,
It's not just for a bunch of cosplay nerds.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah, this is a rough way of saying it is
almost like this is American Idol for the suits of Hollywood,
where the theater owners basically will sit in the front
row and then watch as the studios just roll out
their display, their talent, their sizzle reels, anything they can

(12:57):
to hype up their movies that are coming out. So right,
this is a time where you know, Disney will unveil
their sleep. We talked about it a couple of weeks ago,
how we've hardly heard anything about what's coming up for Disney, Marvel,
Star Wars. So this is where they do.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
It's like we were talking a couple of weeks ago
that I mean, they had, you know, Disney twenty five
or No, it's the Disney shareholders meeting, which is usually
more muted but still more in depth than like D
twenty five is, and they didn't say shit about what's

(13:35):
coming up at the Disney investors meeting.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah, I think that they're still arranging deck chairs as
far as the movie schedule goes. I mean, we do
know there's a Fantastic four on the horizon, and I
gotta say it looks pretty badass. The yeah, it doesn't
look bad. The images coming out of it are cool.
It's retro. It's got a throwback feel to it. I
kind of like the direction or going with it. And

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then you know, you see a bunch of the other Thunderbolts.
They're really big on this one. They think that's gonna
be the next franchise. I guess okay, if you say so. Yeah,
it was kind of funny. There was a clip to
where they were like, okay, Thunderbolts, let's bring the cast
up here on stage. A comic on well, one of

(14:21):
the actors they had to pull out of the casino
like they were like, oh, hang on, hang on, no,
he's not here right now. So they had to go
into casino and fetch him. And he comes in drunk,
pissed off, I just lost thirty seven grand at the
tables whatever, and he's like badgering with his co stars
and they're just like, please step back, you know a way.
They're like arguing on the way to the stage. It's hilarious,

(14:43):
that's but hey, you're holding this in Vegas guess what's
gonna happen, right that's this is what goes on now.
So there's just everything is pumped up excitement. It's like, uh,
you know, Mike or soft sales meeting developers, developers, developer,

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you know that kind of bull crap where it's just
it's almost like a cult. Everything's fanned freaking fantastic. And
they're doing this in light of a theatrical environment that's
not that exciting.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
To put it politely, the desperation of exhibitors right now.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
I get this. I get the stake and a blowjob thing, yeah,
I get the alcohol thing, but pickleball.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
It's it's really it's really a point where pretty much
anything and everything that takes place just has to be
fanned freaking tastic. Yes, you know, it's just that if
somebody passes out on stage, that's going to be the
next big thing and the people are gonna be passing
out in theaters all year. We love this. This is
you know, it's that kind of thing. Everything has to

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be positive. Here's I think the indicator to me that
things are off. One of the aspects of this that
allegedly has exhibitors just pumped with excitement is the alleged
resurgence of MGM Studios.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
That's okay with that. I mean, it's I remember MGM.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, don't get me wrong. I'm not upset that they're,
you know, making a comeback. What has happened basically is
MGM got bought out by Amazon, and Amazon now is
going to reconstitute it and make it into something. And okay,
I'm happy with that. And you know, let's get James
Bond squared away, huh, because this is the MGM property.

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And basically everybody said, well, Amazon's taking it over. What
they're gonna screw up Bond. It's like it's better than
no Bond, which we have now, which is true.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
I mean it is. It is an MGM property and
it is. I just you know, there was a story,
there was a sidebar I saw today that talking about
Bond that I just was it didn't make the cut
for tonight. And that's Pierce Brosden backing up. God, I
just drew a blank on her name, Helen Mirren talking

(17:28):
about how sexist James Bond was. I'm like, this is
not the time you want to do.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
It, guys.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
You really don't need to be shitting on. Did you
learn nothing from Disney?

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Is the bitter that he's cut out of the process
now or something he got aged out.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
It's like Pierce a rant about how she never liked
James Bond because it was so sexist, and then him,
in a separate interview, said, yeah, you know she's right
about that. Dude. You did four Bond movies. Yeah, one
of them with fan Kee Jensen. Shut the fuck.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah, I saw you in bed with Sophie Marceau. Just
embrace the sexism, please. It was a great scene. She
looked hot in it. Good stuff, go with it. But yeah,
that's that's one of the saving graces here. It's like, listen,
they've been sitting on Bonds since Craig out years ago.

(18:22):
They're not moving, they're not casting. Let's do something with it,
so give it to Cavil. Let's move on and make
a movie.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Already. We've been doing this show for six years. God,
has it really been six six years now? And we
have talked more about speculation of who would be the
next Bond than actually talked about a Bond release. That's
how long it's been.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, we've been pushing for Idris Elba so long that
he is now aged out and ineligible. Just it's the
easiest move. Put him in a damn movie. Make the
damn movie. Well, we gotta consider.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Nobody's gonna say, oh, you woke ified Bond because it
just can pull it off. Could have pulled it off
now that they have a very set age frame for Bond.
After Craig.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
He is and he you know, pretty much proved he
had the jobs. If you watch Hobbs and Shaw where
he played the you know, bionified villain in that thing. Yeah,
physical acting. He was all about it. And there I'm
watching the movie, it's like they just they totally screwed up.

(19:38):
They could have had this guy.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah, it was like when he was in Cats.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
You you always have to go with the butthole cut,
and I love you for it.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
I tried to get Grog to draw the butthole cut
the other day. I couldn't get it.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Really, Yeah, you have to talk with Elon after.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Theoretical it doesn't exis And I tried to massage. I said, well,
let's assume that it did. Draw a scene from that.
Just couldn't missage it and not begin to do it.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
I'm not kink shaming. I'm just gonna go on the record.
Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Well, at the very end it said due to copywriting,
I don't think I can.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
I love the conversational aspect of GROC too. Yeah, where
it's not like that is illegal. We can't know. He's like, dude,
I'd love to help you out and I can't. Lawyers,
what are you gonna do? Right?

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Cool?

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Groc? All right, sorry, buddy.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Thanks.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
That is where in the AI is because it doesn't
actually feel like you're having a conversation. I've had to
argue with it a few times. No, that absolutely exists.
Don't argue with me. Oh wait, you're right. It does
all that information before. But I had three rounds with
you before.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Anyway, that's my co host. Folks smarter than AI.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
I have my moments.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
That's why I got you on the show. Make me
look good. Well it's yeah. This is the part that
cracks me up about this all though, is they they
are basically looking at MGM. The exhibitors are as like
they're saving grace. They're saying it, you know. Oh, we
could not be happier to hear about the resurgence of MGM.
And they can fill the void of twentieth century.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
Fox literally quotes.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
It's like, well, I wasn't aware that Fox was just,
you know, crapping out handfuls of movies every year to
fill your seats. But okay, yeah, you've got a point there.
But I mean, you know, Fox had a bunch of
divisions too, like with Fox Searchlight on their art house side,
and they had a couple others. It's yeah, they they
had content, let's just say it.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
But you know when Fox Studios died was when they
had to switch to twenty first century Fox, when they
could stop putting the twentieth century Fox big fanfare you
know us And when they stopped doing that, that was
that was the beginning of the end for Fox Studios.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yeah maybe, and uh, you know, the Disney buyout didn't help.
Disney wanted their catalog. They didn't want to maintain and
continue their onslaught in theaters. So you know, basically they
got their vault of old movies and the rights to
a couple of Marvel characters. Done. Oh you still want

(22:29):
us to make movies?

Speaker 3 (22:30):
You know? Israel wanted Spider Man.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Se this. Uh, apparently the exhibitors have felt a void
and now they think Amazon is just going to defecate
money into the coffers of MGM and produce I don't know,
twelve movies a year or something.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Hey, you know, if it takes the Lions roar to
bring people back to the theaters, run with it. Ship it.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yeah, like I said, I mean, don't get me wrong,
I'm I like mg I'm there. You know, it's one
of those legacy studios. They've just fallen in disrepair over
the last twenty thirty years.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
And I got a picture of me with the lion.
I used to love MGM stuff.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
And they're even trying, you know, they for years now
to get their own streaming service up. We have I
don't think we've ever mentioned MGM Plus once.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
We mentioned it when it launched, and I said, well,
that's interesting because they there was a Stargate streaming service
before MGM Plus launch. I said, well, that's where they
put all that money into MGM. Put all that money
into doing a stargate streaming service, and now they're folding
it into MGM Plus and then hello, Amazon omes at all.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yeah, it's I mean, it still exists, and every so
often they belch out like their own series. They tried
to do it. Get Shorty reboot of sorts.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
That I didn't watch. I wanted to.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
I watched like one season, didn't really work. I mean,
Ray Romano was kind of cool in it, but it's
just it fell short.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
It just.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Now he played the studio head and he was not.
It was not Elmore Leonard, let's just say that. But
they had another interesting one too. They took the Twelve
Days at the Condor the Redford film and modernized it.
That was kind of a cool show. They had like
two seasons of that.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
This is all shit. I would have watched.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Well, see, I only knew about it because I was
looking one day for a there's one. There was a
documentary about Murph the Surf and that was on MGM.
So I got it like the seven day trial, and
then I was like, well I got it for seven days,
made as well explore, So I did and check some

(24:55):
stuff out. That's all. It's It wasn't enough to make
me go with the full didn't keep the subscription going
because I'm scrolling through it's like, it's pretty much about it.
I think I just did everything in a week. Okay,
we're done.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
Well, that's because you digested all of their content in
a week.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Yeah, I was supposed to space it out. I guess
my bad. Sorry, but it's uh, yeah, this is going
to be the comeback I guess for theaters. M GM.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Well, let's not count some Netflix cope out.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Well that's the thing, you know, while all this celebrations
going on, and again, I'm not here to crap on
their party. If you know they're having a good time
with it, all, more power to them. I mean, I
want theaters to work. It's not like I'm rooting against them,
unlike a certain movie we're gonna mention soon later. But

(25:52):
it was I guess you want to call it reality.
This isn't even petulant competition. And this is kind of
just like, damn, the dude's making sense.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
This is just, uh, you know, you got everybody at
Senecon or CinemaCon just drunk on you know, movie theaters
and you know the cinema coming back, and here comes
Netflix with a bucket of cold water to throw at him.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah. This is This took place at a media conference
held I think it was last week, and Ted Zarundos,
the co CEO of the Netflix, is talking with Ben
Smith and He's just laying it out in terms that
you're like. Initially you hear it, you're like, dude, that's harsh.
And then you actually look at the words, you're like hmm.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
And then well, isn't Netflix putting stuff out in the theaters?
And then you remember they only put it in on
enough screens for a long enough so that way they
can win an Oscar two?

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah, what you ever?

Speaker 3 (26:57):
Years ago?

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Generally will not see a Netflix property hit a movie
screen from January through August, right, but then once a
Toronto Film Festival kicks off and everything else that's part
of award season. It's like, oh, Netflix has a movie
in ten theaters, Yeah, which is all convenient and screen.

(27:22):
Srondo's is talking with Ben Smith, and you know, he's
just laying it out there and says, I don't think
theaters are going to work. He says this. Nearly every
live thing has come back screaming since the pandemic. Broadways
breaking records right now, sporting events, concerts, all those things
that we couldn't do during covert are all back and

(27:45):
bigger than ever. The theatrical box office is down forty
to fifty percent from pre COVID levels. This year is
down eight percent already, so the trend is not reversing.
See and I think.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
This has a lot too. And we've talked a lot
about this, and you see it on social media all
the time. This isn't the fact that people don't want
to go to the movies. This is the fact that
there is nothing to go to the movies for.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah, they I think it's a twofold problem. One, there
aren't enough event pictures, you know. I mean it used
to be like Friday was your default. Okay, what's going
to be into theaters this week? And you would check
and see if there's anything worthwhile and go check it out.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Phone, and then you know, plan your weekend out.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah. Now it's like there's one movie every three months
that might be worth a day, and people will set
it on the calendar to remind them. It's like, oh, crap,
was that this week? Oh dammit, I got dinner reservation.
Maybe Sunday, you know, and I'll become secondary.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Last on Friday. I'm gonna be out until Sunday. I'll
catch it next week.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
But the other problem, and studios did this to themselves
and COVID augmented this was condition people to say, yeah,
I'll just wait for it to come on streaming. Yeah,
but unless you're not like pumped to buy tickets ahead
of time and be there Thursday night for the sneak preview,
then it's like check the watch, yeah, you know, and

(29:14):
I'll I'll stream it later. I got yeah, I got
things to not do here.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
And you're like, hey, you know what, we're having a
good time. You catch a movie? What's out? Nothing?

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, it's like then you know, well, what streaming services
you got? Well? I got these two? What do you got?
I got? Okay? And then you hammered out and go
to one house or the other, bring a six back
on a pizza, and there's party. Yeah, and that might
even be cheaper than going to the movies for two people.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Because you know, they do frown on blow jobs and
the cinema as.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
How I know, yeah, I don't think they've really you know,
got the hashtag cinema and chill going, so yeah, they
kind of frowned it. But I'm looking at his words there,
and you know, I'm thinking, yeah, the guy's on it.

(30:07):
And he throws data on top of that too, and
it's like I kind of want to fight you on this,
but you and your damn fact girl, Yes, how dare you?
Your honesty is offensive? What it comes down to, Yeah,

(30:32):
it's it's a real problem here. And I blame Hollywood
for the problem that they have because they did this.
We we talked extensively during the pandemic or coming out
of the pandemic, which was an arduous process, But for
how long did we see them doing day and date
with theater and streaming? Yeah, and it's like, what the

(30:53):
hell are you doing? You're you completely undercut the special
feeling of going to a theater.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Right, And that was I get it, because there was
still a lot of places that were kind of schizophrenic
on if they were open? Are they allowing people in theaters?
And but long long past, everybody had just said, fuck it,
we're living our lives again. Here's Disney day date, which
that's how you knew it was going to be a

(31:21):
They really should have put snow white out on day date.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Well that's a.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Do you like that?

Speaker 2 (31:30):
I did segue Latin, well done, that's snow white. We've
talked about extensively and covered here just weeks ago. But
this was supposed to be innocence back in the day
this was going and got evidence of that. Look what

(31:53):
happened in Christmas when Mufasa came out, which was the
live action sequel to The Life King, and it was
really tepid when it came out. I think it did
I don't know, like sixty million or something opening week
and everyone was like eh, and then it just kind
of kept going. This thing really didn't drop off and

(32:14):
made money. Yeah, it became a hit. Like long term,
it was like, oh okay, there's still a little bit
of an audience here, there's you know, people want this stuff.
Snow White's coming. Well, yeah, they poisoned.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
That well that apple.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Oh there you go even better. I should have I
should have. Damn it. It was right there too, Wasn't
it Why you have me on the show? I know
it's it's why I have you and not an AI
co host. You're better. Well, just to beat this dead
horse even further second week of snow White, I mean,

(32:52):
how do you go from a dismal, almost record setting
opening of failure and then lose sixty percent of that audience.
That's that's staggering.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Because what they got the initial weekend were reporters, reviewers,
and YouTubers. Those are the only people who went to
watch that.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yeah, this definitely front loaded of people like, oh, holy hell,
I gotta see this train wreck.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
And here's the thing. Generally, in the old days before
I guess COVID, pre COVID, if a movie dropped more
than say, fifty five percent or so, that was regarded
as a failure, except massive releases like Marvel or Star Wars,
because they would just have an absolutely unbelievable opening weekend

(33:46):
that everybody had to go see it three times.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
Yeah, their opening weekend generally stretched two weeks.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yeah, you would have like you know, some god forsake
and opening of like one hundred and eighty million. Well, yeah,
you going to have a sixty five seventy percent drop
off from that in week two. It's just gonna happen.
That's that's not considered a failure. That's considered reality.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
And that also goes with because a lot of the
exhibitors they would have, you know, when something like that
would come out, they might have it on three four
of their screens and then okay, that's the first week,
dial it back to two or one because everybody's out there.
Thing Now, we're just getting the rewatches.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Yeah, you have to accommodate for you know, the fanboy surge,
but also a lot of times these are opening in
the summertime, where every single week there's a blockbuster, so
you had to clear out some screen. Yeah that is,
that'll take place. So that kind of drop off happens
on massive successes. To have a movie flop and just

(34:47):
fall on its face in the opening weekend and then
posts sixty six percent drop damn that is. That's basically
a rebuke from the general public.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Is an excoriation.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
It's like, hey, it's in week number two and people
were saying, is it still in theaters? Really you're doing this.
That's kind of the reaction we saw from the general public.
This is how bad it was in week two. It
wasn't even the number one film last week. Yeah, Jason
Statham had just this formulaic, pot boiler, revenge violent movie,

(35:27):
basically The Beekeeper two and he beat snow White the
second week, made a million dollars more on a thousand
screens fewer just for holy hell.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
And the argument that Snowhite was number one, I am
not buying it. I am There are not that many
YouTubers out there looking to shit all over that property
to ah to send it to number one. I swear

(36:02):
Disney had to do a lot of seed buying for
that one.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
The only the only way I see that is that
there was nothing else in that genre. There was no
other kid's pictures. Paddington was in theaters, but it's been
there for like two months. It's showing on about one
hundred screens, so it's not a competition.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
I want to see Paddington again.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
So there was really no head to head contest for it,
and okay, it's going to make its first week, but
it didn't because they scaled back projections like three or
four times, and then it still failed to meet those
expectations hilariously.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
So so when we talked about it, because the last
time you and I spoke on the show was uh,
the nights before launch, that was it was launching that
night we were waiting in, I said sixty five.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Global, and I predict it wouldn't hit fifty. Okay, I
was smarter than Ai. Last episode it came, the final
projections was forty five million or so. It then by
Sunday made forty three and then when the official ticker

(37:18):
came in it didn't even hit that number forty two
and change was that domestic or was that global? Now
domestic global? It was just about double. I think it
was like fifty two or fifty three international.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
I was posts without going over.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
But still and this thing after two weeks still had
not made what it was supposed to its opening weekend.
And the global take is not helping at all. No,
when you fail overseas with something like this, that's a
screw up, because you I've seen instances where it's like, Okay,

(37:58):
domestic sucks, but internationally made two hundred and fifty million,
so bail out No.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
Yeah, usually you can count on Europe to bail out
a dog or Asia. Nobody's going to see this fucking thing.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
So and I covered this over at Red State Deadline,
tried crunching numbers, and I swear to god they were
trying everything. Yeah, but you know when the juice boxes
for that are themed for this coming out of Peru
are realized, you know they're folding as much money into
this as possible, and they still have it losing one
hundred and fifteen million dollars and I'm looking at.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
I spoke earlier of Cope that article was pure cope.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Yeah, that was basically anything else happened. The headbands they're
selling in Russia that's got snow white on it, right, Okay,
put that money in there, and they're doing it. There's
no way this thing's not going to lose two hundred million. No,
no way. I mean I they're because they're talking about
the you know, secondary cable rights and in Europe to

(39:04):
television and DVD sales, you know, streaming rights over there
is going to be huge enough and start pumping this
up and bullshit, that's not happening because here in the States,
it's gonna be on Disney Plus and that's taking one
hundred dollars bill from your left pocket and sticking it
in your right pocket. You did not make one hundred

(39:25):
dollars that day. No, And when it goes to cable
or when it goes on the ABC network, okay, maybe
you'll sell a few commercials, but nobody's watching that channel anymore.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
None of that's actually gonna happen. I guarantee you this
thing is going to go the way of the Red
Dawn readboot.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
This. This is the funny thing is like when about
a month ago before it opened. You know, they kept
looking for comparables, and they would always like whispers like, well, look,
there's always that Dumbbo movie. You remember that fil It's
not gonna be that bad. It's gonna be like on
Maleficent levels or such, but not, it won't be Dumbo.
This is doing worse than Dumbo. Yep.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
See, and Dumbo was so bad I forgot it existed.
It was just computed again with Operation Dumbo Drop.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
You know what we should do a compare and contrast
and see which movie made more.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Not the next culture shift.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
I used to have one of my backpacks. I actually
had a Dumbo Drop patch, like a military patch that's awesome,
and it was like an outline of an elephant with
a straight line parachute over it, and was like, holy hell,
I have to get this. Yeah. I helped contribute to
the profit line of Operation Dumbo Drop.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
The pool at Dennis Leary's house. Thanks you.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Well, I mean maybe you could change the filter one
weekend on my dime that I got them or something.
But yeah, that's that. That was cracking me up, though,
because a month ago it was like, yeah, you know,
trust me, there's always Dumbo. That's the that's the low watermark.
We're not gonna hit that. And then this weekend came
along and it's like, oh, holy crap, it's doing worse
than Dumbo. So that's a problem. And here's another sign

(41:25):
of how tough things are at CinemaCon as well as
at Disney. As we said, this entire weekend over in
Vegas is about just, you know, the orgasmic presentation. These
are all the fabulous movies we're going to do. And
news came out today of one of the movies they're

(41:46):
not going to do.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
It's been put on hold.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Well is it in turnaround? I? This is in the
or is it shelf? Which is it in my head?
Anytime anybody has spoke spake of snow White. Remember that
episode of The Simpsons when Homer meets his long lost
brother played by Danny DeVito and he owns a car

(42:12):
company and designs the car, and then when they roll
the car out, you hear Danny DeVito's voice.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
Saying, oh my god, I'm ruined.

Speaker 4 (42:19):
Ray.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
That's Bob Eigern White.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
So yeah, that's the phase he's in right now. So
one of the live action remakes that Disney had slated
was Tangled, they're retelling of the Rapunzel theme. I gotta
be honest, I like the Tangled movie. Yeah, I just
love Finn Ryder, the way they presented him like he

(42:48):
was a completely joking yet cynical character. Like in one
of the scenes in the bar where all the Ruffians
break out into song, he's kind of like in the background, going, wait,
really we're doing this. They've completely ribbon on the movie itself.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
It was very self aware.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Yeah, and Zachary Leevey did a fantastic job on the voice,
even though Hollywood hates him today because oh my god,
he's a secret conservative burn the Witch. But overall, I
can anytime the kid wants to put the movie on,
I'm right there. It's like me and Finn. That's it.
I'm gonna do the Smolder. Get ready for a kid,
it's coming. So they were gonna do a live action

(43:26):
of this, Well that has been There's so many terms
in Hollywood too when a movie is yanked. Is it table?
Does it show? Is it round? Is it being reworked?
Are we getting a script? Doctor? How are we doing? Basically,
they said, h snow White, really shit the bed. Let's
put the brakes on any live action remix right now.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
Yeah, this has been put on pause, according to studio insiders,
and it had been an active development too.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
They got a.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Um Michael gate Gray see from the Greatest Showmen, I
was on board to direct this.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Did they make it to casting yet or not quite?

Speaker 3 (44:09):
I don't think so, because all they've got is they
got Michael Gracie's directing it and Jennifer Catvin Robinson from
thor Love and Thunder and Do Revenge doing the script.
So there's where you pumped the brakes right there, because
you know that's not fair. Love and Thunder wasn't bad.

(44:29):
It wasn't like, it wasn't as bad as the second
one that I can't even remember the name of dark
Age or whatever.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Oh yeah, what was the subtitle of that one?

Speaker 3 (44:44):
Yeah, see that. It was Chris Christopher Eckleson in it.
You expected more and were very disappointed, But that was
still when Marvel was an ATM, So as bad as
it was, it was still better than nothing.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Yeah, this is pretty much a case where.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
But hey, I have a question from the chat am
I correct saying that the Marvels is the biggest flop
ever at losing two hundred and forty three million, snow
White could end up worse. You are correct, Yes, Cal
it's going to be worse.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
And I was actually just answering him too. But I
am going to throw in Solo because that lost a
ship ton.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
That lost a ship ton. But still in the uh,
in the annals of the biggest losers, this one is
going to beat out because I think in order of appearance,
it's going to be snow White, Solo, and then uh,
the Marvels.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Yeah, the I I guess, Yeah, Madam web they probably
just didn't spend that much on No.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
They didn't gee, and you put the exclamation point on
that one. I didn't know, Madam Webb was going to
be a thing. Can tell it was released, So they
spent fucking nothing.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
Well, I'm pretty sure they saw the screening of it
and said, oh, yeah, we're not going to invest any
money in advertising. Yeah, you have a superhero movie and
they're actually in superhero attire for one scene and it's

(46:35):
basically a it was a flash forward scene like they
they were fantasizing being superheroes in the future or something
that was it.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
I'm just told superheroes, this is what it would look like.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
We're fighting, we're bunching, we're kicking. Oh okay, that's over.
I am spent. Let's go get a kai. You want
a boob a tee? What do you want? Let's go
do something? And am I watching? I thought it was
a Marvel movie? Right? I love that film so much
that in the Marvels I can sit there and watch
them and just like it just washes over. It's like

(47:14):
they really did this. This is I'm watching this happen.
They made that happen. Those are horrendous. I love them
to death.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
It's yeah, but yeah, there's movies that are bad, not
on purpose, but you know, like you know they know
they're not trying to be a blockbuster. Then you got
movies that are a blockbuster who's trying to be a
blockbuster like Charlie's Angels twenty eighteen or Ghostbusters twenty sixteen
and everything from Marvel Lately and just you love to

(47:49):
see it.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Well, we've got Thunderbolts coming, do we? That was that
was me. That was me getting excited about a Marvel release.

Speaker 5 (48:01):
Yeah, okay, yeah, the one that even the actor didn't
show up on stage four.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Well he did, but it was like oh shit, that's
why we go. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
Actually they had to yank them off at the casino
four and he was down thirty seven k.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Yeah, you call my publicist, tell her to go collect
my chips or a table twelve? Can you get that?
It's like, what are we doing here? Hey? Yeah, welcome
Los Vegas Thunderbolts. High five me a fiz bump there,
give me a fizz bump, dude? Why are you giving
me out of dude? What the hell? It's like? Damn
you get the drunk party animal in your cast. I

(48:43):
love that. Yeah, all right, do you want to take
a break here?

Speaker 3 (48:48):
Yeah, let's take a break, and this is a good
spot to break and then uh I think it's perfect.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Yeah, well uh yeah, we we actually have more Hollywood
dysfunction ahead of us, in fact, so go ahead hit
the lobby like Jeff put a comparison in the in
the chat.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
Uh Dumbo twenty nineteen one hundred and eight percent negative profit,
Operation Dumbo Drop nineteen ninety five negative three percent profit.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Ooh see we were correct yet again.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
Yeah. Do you love the acaderms anyway?

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Yes, well done, Jeff, thanks for the thanks for the data,
our producer. That's what we got here, folks. It's a
team effort, and what a team we got. All right,
go hit the lobby, get your refills, load up the tub,
get a refill on the coke, and we'll be back
here in about three three and a half on the
culture shift. Welcome to Ludio.

Speaker 6 (50:17):
There's no sign.

Speaker 7 (50:22):
Even while you say we will bother, you say, got
your best comba.

Speaker 6 (50:52):
It's my it's my only. Help me to the sound,
help me make it.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
Start reading the Scott Talk.

Speaker 6 (51:29):
When it do so lovely?

Speaker 4 (51:35):
All spade so.

Speaker 7 (51:38):
Sounded to mad?

Speaker 4 (51:43):
Was the.

Speaker 6 (52:43):
Not say that?

Speaker 5 (52:47):
S know?

Speaker 4 (52:48):
Never never don't?

Speaker 2 (53:11):
All right, we are back on the culture shift, thanks
to Tears for Fears for that break. Yeah, we're all
collectively raving about it in our private chat here. Gotta
be one of the more solid acts, enduring acts from
the eighties.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
I'll say, you know, they're one of those that you
kind of like. They're a moped band. Fun to ride,
but you don't want your friends to see it.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Listening to it, never admit to it. Is that what
you're saying? Okay, Yeah, I thought I played the hell
out of that cassette back in the day.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
Oh absolutely ruined that water slide park without thinking about
the first time I went to a water slide park
when Shout was playing like every ten minutes.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
So that makes a good background music water park song. Yeah, okay,
I get you.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
Well we've been, uh, we've been discussing the uh problems
and traumatics going on in Hollywood, So why don't we
I guess we have to continue.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
Yeah, literally, in Hollywood. It's not just a metaphoric Hollywood.
This is actual Hollywood. Clowes.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
Yeah, they have actual metrics that they can look at
and say, we don't have a lot going on around
town here, so they you know, there are various ways
of doing this, but they measure the amount of studio
lot shooting days that take place in Los Angeles and

(54:47):
they just hit record lows. Yeah that's not good. This
is but I mean a variety of factors are in
play here of course. There This is where my confusion is.
We're still dealing because they bring it up on almost
any business article about Hollywood. Well, you know the actors

(55:10):
strike two years ago. It's like, okay, one, that's over
to the log jam. You were supposed to have a
shit ton of product. You were trying to make and
couldn't Where did all of that go?

Speaker 3 (55:20):
Well? What what happened with the log jam?

Speaker 2 (55:24):
You see?

Speaker 3 (55:24):
What happened was because of the again schizophrenic reopening of
the nation during COVID, some places were open earlier than others.
And apparently it doesn't take a lot to throw us
a sound stage together, because they went up everywhere. And
I remember you and I talking about it with like

(55:45):
Taos and Texas and you know, Georgia expanded, and Florida
and Toronto and Ontario, and I mean they just started
popping up everywhere like ragweed, and uh, well, all of
these places still have their tax breaks and effect where
sunny California, which does everything it can to drive industry away.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Yeah, exactly, That's one of the bigger factors going on,
because yeah, California, they love their taxes and they hate
repealing them. So and I don't have to tell you this,
but when places like Georgia, the entire state of Georgia

(56:32):
right now, watch anything on streaming it in a given week,
and I defy you to not see Made in Georgia
at the end of it, right.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
I mean it used to be quite and cute, like
you know, really like you'd rarely see it, except like
at the end of Walking Dead.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Yeah, now Walking Dead was shot entirely there, but they
animate Archer there. They look huge animation business is cropped
up in Georgia. They have Pinewood Studios, which is the
Marvel Sound Stages. Basically they shoot Star Wars in Pinewood, London.
Marvel Pinewood is shot at Georgia. Now New Orleans has

(57:09):
coped to this and they do a lot of in
city television production there.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
Yeah, a lot of street shots. You know. I used
to joke with a friend of mine, you we would
play USA or Canada, and you know what was was
this film Down the Street in the USAir was a
film Down the Street in Canada, even though it's supposed
to take place like Washington, DC or where you'd see
these suburbans running down the street and then you did
see the the speed limit sign was in kph like
that's Toronto.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
You look for a Canadian mailbox or something like that
in the background. They forgot to remove that kind of stuff. Yeah,
it's it's just a case like you know, that's Vancouver
is called Hollywood North. We've talked before, like they have
all the cities in Canada set up to resemble US cities.
If you want d C Vancouver, if you want New
York City, Toronto, if it has to be a European city, Montreal.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
Yeah, I mean almost all of Hallmark movies are film
exclusively in BC.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Right, And if you need you know, a cowboy backdrop,
you're gonna go to Calgary a right. So it's just
that's just set up because their tax.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
You still have backdrop.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
You also go to Calgary or Edmonton. You know, they
got all the oil fields up there. They can do
blue collar craft there, they have to sell it. It
just it's weird that they do it this, right, But
Georgia has really set it up. Florida's got you know,
they haven't really developed it outside of like Orlando with
Disney Television, right, those are shot there, Nickelodeon as such.

(58:39):
But yeah, it's become so fragmented, and California is doing
nothing to lure them back.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
That sit cracks me up to give you an idea
how bad it was. Now, remember what happened in this timeframe.
Between twenty eighteen and twenty twenty two, A year to
year average was twelve two hundred forty shoot days in
Hollywood in twenty twenty three, eighty six seventy one. We

(59:10):
are now lower than that.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
Yeah, and it's supposed to be, you know, we're both
out of the pandemic and beyond the strike. This should
be boom time, and it is it's not. And I
kind of like that they're saying. Yeah, but you know,
part of the problem is that television productions they're just
not shooting as many episodes.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
It's fault of that.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
I'm sorry, but ain't buying it. Oh you know, sitcoms
used to have twenty four episodes. Now they're only sixteen.
Uh huh. Except there's about a dozen streaming services that
want their own programs right now, so I think that compensates.
It's a mitigating factor.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Yeah, you're you're not talking just broadcasting cable anymore. You've
got eight actually competitive streaming services filming original content, just
not in your studios.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Yeah. And the advancement with CGI also means you don't
need massive sound stages and you don't need therefore massive cruise.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
So I mean indicated you could go back to God.
I think it was twenty two thousand and five. There
was a show. It started out as a web show,
and then it was on Sci Fi called Sanctuary. It
had a Manda Tapping who played Carter at SD you
want to drink. Almost all of that was green screen
and CGI and you couldn't really tell. And that's twenty

(01:00:45):
year old tech. I mean you go overboard, like there
was a there was an anecdote during a Captain Marvel
where even like the table and the t service was cgi'.
It's like, you guys couldn't spring for anything more than
a couple of chairs.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
I just you see it every now and in like
an older TV shows, because I'll sometimes go back and
stream something I watch years ago, and you know, like
there's a character who the actress couldn't be on the episode,
so they have her. You know, oh, she's calling from
the streets in DC quote unquote. But as you see
her hair flounce at the very ends of it, you
can see if you can see the fractals and the

(01:01:28):
pixels a little bit on it, it's like, oh, yeah,
it's green screen. She's not She's not there is what
it is. She's shooting this wherever the hell she's at.
That's always been the trick. Well, now they can do
that to a point you can't really tell. So instead
of having a crew of one hundred and fifty on
a massive soundstage, twenty guys green screen digital cameras will

(01:01:50):
fix it in post and.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
A lot of it. You know, we talked about this
with vo during the during COVID, A lot of people
they could set up their own shit at home.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
I mean the tech isn't that expensive anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
I mean, you know, they're Maggie.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
I think about that show all the time because you've
got Helen magn Is, Manda tapping with long black hair
and a pencil skirt, stockings and heels. I think about
that show often.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Probably in the different capacity than Aggie I'm gonna say.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
I'm sure, oh maybe anyway, but it's yeah, they're like
Apple and such are trying to sell it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Like you could shoot a cinematic film on your phone.
Well no you can't.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
But remember Quibi we talked about for like three weeks
and then it went under. Right, that's what they were
trying to do, make your own web exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
It was like your own five minute film and then
you can get it put online. And well now they
do that on YouTube. Huh how about that? But you're
not going to get cinematic quality, but you can get
cameras that are of that grade and yeah, shoot things
that look damn cinematic. At the end, you don't need
a massive studio. That's what's going to I think fall

(01:03:13):
by the wayside at some point. You know, the back
lots where they have just you know, one after another
after oh yeah we're on sound stage seventeen nah, bull
crap condos right ten years or you know, executive suites
or something like that will happen. Maybe that's where they
can store all of their old old film stole so

(01:03:37):
it doesn't catch fire and you lose movies. How about
that idea?

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
Hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
It was a few weeks ago. I was reading something
about you know, like every so often a title would
come up from like the twenties or thirties, like, yeah,
whatever happened to that? One's like lost in a fire,
no prints exist. It's like, seriously, you didn't like map
copies and stormed whatever it is. I thought that was
a thing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
Yeah, I mean, we won't go into out at all
your retiring retirement anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
So this is I think this is coming down the
road that studio city as we know what, It's going
to look very different in a short period of time,
is my guess.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
Yes, especially that's gonna suck for the towb that is
actually called studio City.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Yeah, that'll be a throwback. Maybe you know I was
your kid back in the day.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
Yeah, what's the studio sitting now? It's all porn shoots
and dildo storage.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
I'd say with only fans of the porn industry has
got to be suffered hard now too, yeah phrasing, but
I mean, who's uh, who's gonna be paying top dollars
Vivid video when you can five B a month and you
get a couple of hobags just do it on their
own in the bedroom, and it's yeah, so we're yeah,

(01:05:09):
we're definitely on a wave of a major shift taking
place across the culture. How appropriate for this show, but
it's it's happening everywhere. And yeah, they're moving not just
onto streaming services, they're moving to different methods of production.
We even talked about in the Pandemic where they can
animate from home now uh huh, Yeah, I mean the

(01:05:33):
various animals were on editing suites in their living room
because they couldn't go to the office and lo and behold, hey,
we can animate remotely. What do you know?

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
I mean it star Trek lower decks. A lot of
that was produced during the pandemic from people's living rooms, and.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
A good looking show at that. How about that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
They sent the vo out of A lot of the
vo was down at home too. They like you said,
clean it up and posts and.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Yeah, as long as you got a sound canceling microphone
and you load it up digitally, you can send that
anywhere and have anybody manipulators needed. There's your soundtrack about that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
They can't edit the train out, so you got to
sound proof your room a little bit too.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
But exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
Was that?

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
What channel was the chessa system on? Geez? We got
to clean that up right, Well, there was. Let's say
if we're uh, if we're talking about things falling by
the wayside, how about this for a segue. The VMAs
are leaving MTV.

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
Seriously, the last you know, if there was ever a
metaphor for what the rise and fall of cable television
MTV is it. They had one thing left, one thing,
the MS and last year Paramount put it up. They

(01:07:01):
did it live on MTV and then the next day,
it was streamed on Paramount Plus. They're not even bothering
with that this year.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
No, mostly because MTV is dead in the water and
Paramount Plus that are trying to resuscitate. So whatever the
hip new thing is, let's put it on Paramount and
screw MTV.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
This is it will be on MTV. It will also
be simulcast live on Paramount Plus and CBS.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
In other words, where people are actually watching.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
Yes, where people actually go to.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
I've been shocked that they've held the VMA's the last
five to ten years, because where do they play these.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
I'm you know, I only hear about it after the fact,
but it's like, I mean, they killed MTV News in
twenty twenty three. Last year was the last year of
the MTV Movie and TV Awards.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Yeah, it was, I mean twenty years ago. Those two
shows were huge because when the VMAs came out, I mean,
you just that Monday, the news cycle would be filled
with whatever the hell happened on that show.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
And they're even they're just skipping. They're not doing MTV
Europe Music Awards and they're not doing CMT Music Awards.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
Yeah, the and you know, the MTV Movie Awards kind
of that died out in COVID and they never really
brought it back. They kind of sort of tried to,
and it was like eh, because that was their effort,
was like, well, we'll put it on because we kind
of have to.

Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
But nobody actually expected it. Nobody.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
But at the Movie Awards, it used to be like
Hollywood would turn out for that, massive stars would be.
It was all just you know, bullshit pr for the
studios of course, you know, whoever had a movie coming
out would attend the awards. But it drew and that
was the thing, and that was like.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
Where all the buzz came from.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Like seven or so years, they're both dead in the
water for the most part. It's weird.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
Yeah, I mean the MTV Music Words were bigger than
the Grammys.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
Arguably, so yes, And MTV.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
Also used to play videos and now it's just a
sad version of the Grammys.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
And I think that don't they have like an MTV
Classic channel now or something where they actually play videos,
do they?

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
Because they had they had VH one and they had
VH one Classics that they moved all the videos over too.
Because they tried this with VH one and VH one
Classics lasted longer than VH one did. VH one Shit
took off? They would get the second run of the
reality shows on MTV after MTV stopped playing videos, So.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
Do they like VH one was your parents MTV initially,
and then it became your Parents' Reality Television and it
was like, why is this channel even exist? But then
MTV stopped playing music entirely and just became Jersey Shore
Real World twenty four to seven.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
And then VH one Classic became long format one hundred
and twenty minutes, where it was just nineties eighties all rock,
all day long, which was cool for me. It was like,
you know, it was like listening to the First Wave
on XM, but with videos.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Yeah, back in the day, like one hundred and twenty
minutes was where the cool cutting edge music was. And
today that cool cutting edge music is played in the
grocery store.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
Eat a Dick, Brad, Eat all the Dicks.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
I'm not happy about it, but I mean when I'm violence,
when I'm sitting there rooting around for taters and I
hear the clash in the background, It's like, this is
very cool, right. Joe Strummer is not musaic, You sons
of bitches, all right, but that's where we are at. Yeah,

(01:11:13):
reality is a cruel bitch, but it is. Yeah, this
is this is a uh yeah, I think it's I
think it's a sign that MTV is dead. Hey, here's
a segue talking about a story that won't die, the
Paramount merger. We haven't spoken about that in an episode.

(01:11:38):
This thing is, I swear, it's like the Simpsons. They're
just never gonna cancel this news Like them, It's just
gonna keep going. And people, wait, is that still a thing? Yeah,
still going on.

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
You know, previously on the culture shift, this this fucking
merger with Paramount just won't. It won't go through.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
It won't.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
It won't die, It won't go through. It's just sits
like hot.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
I think just about everybody out there knows this one
couple that should not be married, and yet they still
are after decades. It's like, just get a divorce and
get on with your life. This is the Yeah, this
is like the engagement that just goes on forever, and
they hate each other and neither one will turn the
rings in, and yet they just they're don't. We're gonna

(01:12:29):
God's honor. We're gonna make this work?

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
Now you know what this is. It's like, this is
like I've a this is will they won't they? Television's like,
would you just fuck already?

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
This is the Sam and Diane of Hollywood.

Speaker 3 (01:12:41):
Mergers, the mood lighting, the fucking Ross and Rachel.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
Are they ever going to And it's like to the
point now it's like, who cares? Are they sleeping together?
What's going on? Is they? Are they doing anything? The
latest now? Because we have I've had enough snap foos
and monkey wrenches dumped into this thing. The waters have
been stilled, everything's been calm, no problems. Yes, we're gonna

(01:13:09):
go through with this finally, finally, Well, enter Donald Trump,
and nobody saw this one coming, the teamsters.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
What I love about this is that everybody thought, oh
my god, it would be so great when Trump comes
in too, because then you know, he's going to deregulate
all the things, and you know, and it'll be great
and we'll get this through. We won't have to worry
about the FCC too much. And we just have to
wait until January twentieth. And I think we even talked
about on the show this will probably be the finalized

(01:13:43):
in January twentieth, and what happens, Well, Trump gets all
kind of pissed off about that Kamala Harris interview on
sixty Minutes and decides to slap CBS with a rather
large lawsuit. And then another group in Texas did it too,
this kind of money, the Waters, and then his sec
chairman Brandon Carr comes and says, yeah, I'm gonna be

(01:14:04):
paying really close attention to this merger. Fuck now the teamsters.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
So it was really I think the last time we
brought this up was where the Redstone family was like,
we'll settle, make him happy, make Trump go away, merger finalize,
give it to him, give it. Write a check. I
don't care how big. Right at the check. Write the check.
Now the teamsters have shown and.

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
Just scratch out Redstone. Put in CBS and there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
Give him his own show, have a new apprentice on CBS. Anything,
give it to him.

Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
The apprenticer, it's even more apprentice whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Yeah, he can maybe uh have a con petition for
White House interns or something like this can get him on.

Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
But no, the teams theirs are now writing in because
they I gotta be honest, never saw this coming. The
Team Stars feel like they have a sympathetic voice in
the administration, and they're worried that the merger is going
to lead to a loss of jobs, so they want
to kill the deal.

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
The mob has entered the chat. I mean, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
Worth to the point now where this story has surpassed Batgirl?

Speaker 3 (01:15:36):
Really?

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
Has it?

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
Yeah? I think so. I think at this point it
has well.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
Batgirl was weekly entertainment. This was I mean, just god, damn,
that was so much fun. But this has just been Yeah,
it's been three.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
Years, and yeah, can we maybe just finish this deal
so we don't have to talk about I swear, I
just I did not see the Teamser's union appealing to
the Donald Trump administry.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
Stop after blasting him on his choice of labor sack.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
And I can only think it's because it's sixty minutes
that Trump is like, well, it's not us, it's it's
a damn union's thing. There has nothing to do with us.
I think he's doing it just a piss off CBS.

Speaker 3 (01:16:26):
When you read this story from two I read this
on Deadline and a Hollywood reporter, and both of them
two totally different takes. Deadline absolutely blaming Trump for everything.
You know, it's like and it's because ABC folded on
an easily winnable lawsuit. Okay, and uh what there's an interpretation. Yeah,

(01:16:49):
that's that's one take. Not a good take. But so
and in Hollywood reported you're the actual like people who
do Hollywood and have been around for a long time.
No throwing. The team starts into the mix on this one,
which is funny because it's not Sad, it's not anybody else,
it's craft Services.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
Yeah, and they're basically their concern, if we're gonna call
it that is the the merger will lead to a
loss of significant loss of jobs basically because of overlap
and redundancies, and therefore they're against this.

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
It just.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
You have to laugh at this point. It's just, damn,
are we ever going to.

Speaker 3 (01:17:35):
Result in the politics if you just you know, you're
here for the entertainment and if you weren't paying attention
to any election. The current president of the Team Stirs,
was the first ever president of the Team Stirs to
speak at Trump's inauguration or.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
No, at his Uh at that convention.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
Wasn't it a convention? And uh so he knew which
way the wind was blowing kinda and yeah, so apparently
he just walked right into Car's office and they had
a little chat and nobody can get reached for comment.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Yeah, so we just had to bring the story up
because it was like, never saw this coming completely. Every
step of the way. It was like, there's okay, I
think it looks like they're over all the hurdles. It's
gonna close. No, here comes a lawsuit from shareholders. Okay, well, okay,
now they're gonna close. No, here comes a lawsuit against

(01:18:33):
sixty minutes. So now I'm not even gonna say that
this is then I'm just waiting for what the next
wrinkle is gonna be. This has more twists than a'm
m night sta Amalon merger deal.

Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
Yeah, I mean, because not only do you have, like
I said, you got the teams was involved, but you
got Brandon Carr talking about section two thirty uh, applying
to keeping this merger from happening too.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
Ah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
And Jeff, you're right, Jeff, I do you guys have
spent more time on this story than he did reviewing
Rings of Power in the last three years. Every two
weeks at least ten minutes. Yeah, I think that totals up.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
Well, arguably, Jeff, this one has had more episodes saying
better drama. How about that?

Speaker 3 (01:19:24):
Well, oh, we don't have anybody pushing us tonight too,
so yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
We can sketch. Well, I do have to do. I
have to hit close the top of the hour. I
mean promises, Okay, promises made, promises kept. Now we're good,
We're almost there. Here's another wrinkle in the entertainment slash
political realm, the Kennedy Center. Boy talk about some drama.

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
Is that still going?

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
Yeah, that's still the thing. Here's what I crack up about.

Speaker 4 (01:19:55):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
The latest one was I think it's Ben Folds, the musician,
his pledge. Yes, that would be the same. And he
has now said that he will be pulling out of
his arrangement where he was some sort of musical concubiners.

(01:20:18):
I don't know what the hell are he's doing something
with the Kennedy Center. But now since the Trump takeover, no,
I will no longer serve in that capacity and I'm leaving. Damn,
damn damp. This has been, you know, ongoing. There's been
a number of acts that have pulled out. We talked
about when the producers of Hamilton said they will not

(01:20:38):
stage their production in a couple of months. Their primary
concern is that they might get canceled and their people
will be put out of work. Therefore, we're not going
to do the show at all.

Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
Yeah, we quit. So it's you quit it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
You don't want your people out of work, so you're
not going to allow them to work, got it? Okay?
And they also said terms not his. They also said
that they're there's.

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
The advisor for the National Symphony Orchestra.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
That's what was Of course he was, yes, that's what
he because when I think of Ben Folds, that's the
media where my mind goes.

Speaker 3 (01:21:16):
The Times. Can you hear after eight? I mean really?

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
But I love when the producers the Hamilton said they
were very upset about the politicization of the Kennedy Center,
and it was like, well, let's see, your play is
about a president. The place is named after a president.
It's run by Congress that funds it, and a number
of members of Congress as well as the First Lady

(01:21:42):
often serves on the board of directors of the Kennedy Center.

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
But you don't want politics the center of power of
the Western world.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
So all of these artists are quitting, and they keep
saying the same thing that they hate the fact that
Trump has come in and into well and done all
this and that, and he's trying to take over the
culture of this country just like an authoritarian does. He's
doing this by taking over a solitary theater.

Speaker 3 (01:22:11):
Yeah, taking over a solitary theater, and said, God, wouldn't
it be great if you guys like you were, you know,
if you let other people perform here that maybe don't
have the same political ideology as you do.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
Yeah, how about this. We're just not gonna have drag
shows for kids taking place anymore. Yeah, you see, So
that's what's good. So by taking over this one theater,
I wasn't aware the Kennedy Center dictated culture across the
entire United States. I could name maybe three events that

(01:22:44):
take place at the Kennedy Center every year and that's
about it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
So artists around the country are now just outraged about this,
and they're saying that, you know, Trump is manipulating and
dictating what takes place. Here's the problem. A week ago,
they held the Mark Twain Honor. This is an annual
event where they give out a comedy award if they

(01:23:10):
honor somebody for their contribution to comedy and the culture,
and a crap ton of comedians come in and celebrate
it and say all their stuff. They staged this, and
every single one of them got on stage and shit
on Trump, talked about what they're doing wrong with the
Kennedy Center, dumped on them in this environment of supposedly

(01:23:31):
Trump won't allow this type of content. Yes, how do
you not.

Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
Something more authoritarian than leaving you alone to do what
you want to do.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
Yes, we're gonna spend an hour and a half vulgarly
insulting the President of the United States because he won't
let us speak our mind.

Speaker 3 (01:23:53):
In the solemn venue that everybody holds in such esteem.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
Just the very fact that they're on state doing this
defied what they were saying. That's the part that cracked
me up. And then nobody even realized this boy, no Trump,
he's just like Skeletor not letting me call him Skeletor
on the stage in the Kennedy Center where I'm currently speaking.

Speaker 3 (01:24:17):
I've never been sure of the definition of irony, but
I'm pretty sure that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
It just this is what's going on with the media
with Hollywood, with the Democratic parties like they are not
even while they're screeching or awhere where they stand as
they do. So, you know, this is like a hot
We saw this in the Oscars in the first term,
where people kept up, I will not be silenced. Okay,

(01:24:43):
you're broadcasting to an audience of two billion people, nobody's
silencing it. Yeah, you're giving a speech in Hollywood at
the Oscars, broadcast in one hundred and fifty countries. You
are not being quieted. In fact, I wish you would
shut up, but you.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
Won't, which, by the way, we can all think that's
a different story for this as.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
What cracks me up so much. But yeah, so supposedly
Trump taking over one theater in Washington, DC is going
to lead to the other ultimate collapse of our culture
in this country. Okay, And this is one of the
things that I just love as well. They made this

(01:25:27):
joke repeatedly during the Mark Twain Award and a couple
of others in the media, like when Trump came in
and they made him chamber to the board and stuff.
He's like, you know, we want to see just you know,
more public aiming content, like you know, We're going to
bring back the stage production of Cats. They're making fun
of him for this. He thinks Cats is hy cultures.

(01:25:51):
This is you.

Speaker 3 (01:25:54):
You thought it was hye culture for forty fucking years.

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
The thing is still on Broadway when I was in
middle school, I think or something. You people love cats.
Cats is like your thing. He says, let's put on Cats,
and now you're insulting him for doing your thing.

Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
Yeah, which is funny because everybody Cats is like, hey,
keep my name out your lips.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
So how about this wording? Maybe, just maybe, if Trump
is taken over the Kennedy Center, he will see fit
to have the cat's butthole. I'm excited broadcast on screen
in there.

Speaker 3 (01:26:34):
I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
I think you'll have to fly out for that if
it takes place, because that's son of a bit Trump,
you know that's what he's gonna do. All right. Well,
we don't do a lot of sponsors here on the program,
even though we probably should and we should look into it.
I think I'm gonna reach out to Ryan Reynolds people.

Speaker 3 (01:26:52):
Yeah, you know what, I'm on board with this one
because this is I've seen similar package. I've talked about
it with you from time to time where like they
some uh some of the wineries out here in California,
they'll do it like a foil pack, like like a
Caprice sun for backpackers. Uh so, and it's really cool.
I'm not gonna lie. I've taken in the back country too,

(01:27:14):
and it's quite handy to have him or low that
you can, you know, because when you're backpacking ounces or pounds,
but uh so, or even when you're in a survival situation,
you really need to have a cab. Sob Ryan Reynolds
got you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
Yes, one of the enduring aspects of the hit Deadpool
movie from last summer, where the scenes involving what it's
an Is it a naked cha.

Speaker 3 (01:27:44):
Uh yeah, Peggy the pup, it's yeah, yeah, dog Pool.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
So he has in his marketing saving Reynolds is just man,
this guy's everything. He touches gold. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:28:01):
I love because he actually this is kind of how
you know Reynolds is down to earth because it's like
he knows how to market to the every man and
he and the marketing ad for this one for ugly
wine is ugly Estates Sorry is uh fuck, I'll drink
it and you love what Texas. Do you get it first?

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
Yeah, he's I mean, he's got aviation gin and he's
got his you know, bargain basement cellular company. He you know,
and touches everything and everything works. That's the thing. Is
not like, you know, well, I'm high minded and I'm
giving my name to this company so they could overproduce
a gin and put my name. No, it's his. And

(01:28:45):
now he's got a box wine named after the ugly
pug from his movie. And it's just typical of him.
The reason I love this is it's not you know,
like from you know, from rental sellers or anything like that. No,
this isn't a cardboard j it's a handful. It's a
single serve cardboards. You won't toss it back. This is

(01:29:08):
a juice box, but wine for adults.

Speaker 3 (01:29:11):
And later, not a seven to fifty. So as the
ads say, you're getting thirty three percent more.

Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
I just, I mean, you gotta you just gotta appreciate
the guy for what he does. It's just everything he touches,
it's just it works because he's not. It's not this
is a celebrity product. It's like, no, hey, guys, go
to seven eleven. You can get this.

Speaker 3 (01:29:32):
Yeah, seriously, people will.

Speaker 2 (01:29:34):
It's like, damn it, I love the guy for this.
He's got a soccer team, they're successful. What can you
do something that fails just to make me feel better? Please?

Speaker 3 (01:29:44):
Oh, he's an overachiever.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
Well that's the thing is that maybe he's dual citizenship
or maybe I can hate him for that fucking Syrupean. No, can't.
Like he's that guy. You just got to resent the
guy because women absolutely adore him, and guys are like,

(01:30:10):
I'll hang with the dude. I don't care if he's pretty.
He's cool as shit. You know. It's like that, you'll
get all the brons, I get to understand whatever. We'll
take your.

Speaker 3 (01:30:18):
Scraps home later or whatever. The wine to wine one
percent less snob.

Speaker 2 (01:30:27):
See. There you go that it was through all right?
Well I think we were successful here. We burned through everything.
We all the jam, We got it done.

Speaker 3 (01:30:37):
We got one more. I know you got a vacate.
We can't we can'not do this one because it dropped
in Secon.

Speaker 2 (01:30:45):
H Oh, what do we forget?

Speaker 3 (01:30:48):
Naked gun reboot?

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
Oh crap, Yes, I didn't bring it up during Synecon.
I said yes, they're three doing Naked Gun. Amazing. That's the.

Speaker 3 (01:31:04):
And I'll tell you what the end of it actually
had me audibly laugh.

Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
Because when like, I'm went through a lot of changes
just on the announcement of a trailer here because they
said we're bringing back the Naked Gun, I was like, no,
it's got Liam Neeson in it. What wait a second,
Neissan's got.

Speaker 3 (01:31:31):
Liam Nees said, I see what they're going for here.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
But he's got killer comedic chops. I mean, Liam Neeson
is as dry as they get. Yeah, he was on.
I mean he's done stuff with riggyd Gervaise that was
dropped in hilarious. What was that they had that show
with the short British actor from Willow Oh h he

(01:31:54):
was but he was in one and I think actually
it might have been Drew Base produced even too, but
he was in that repeatedly and was whole hilarious in it.
His delivery is just deadpin, very dry and just his
timing is impeccable. So they said that. I was like, okay,
and I'm watching the trailer and it's like over the top,
but at the same time it's police squad, so yeah,

(01:32:16):
and police Squad.

Speaker 3 (01:32:17):
Yeah, so I mean grant and it's kind of got
that uh you know Liam Neeson revenge kind of film
kind of thing in it too, where yeah, it's a
little over the top when he's you know, on the
uh the killing of the bank robbers. But on the
other hand, well Squad, it's a different without the naked

(01:32:41):
good movies. Just when Police Squad was on television, they
were as close as they could get without the censors
putting the stop on it. So yeah, Cal, you're right.
His scene in Ted two was also freaking hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
Yeah, That's what I'm saying is the guy has proven
himself a depth at this, so I'm I'm on board
coming out in August, so no wonder the exhibitors were excited.

Speaker 3 (01:33:09):
And if you if you haven't seen the see I
actually thought this was an April Fol's joke.

Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
Same. Yeah, I was kind of leaning there too. It
was like, did this come out on Monday?

Speaker 3 (01:33:18):
Because this really this feels this feels like yeah, because
it's just too But go watch the trailer and at
the end you will laugh out loud and just for
that because not a lot, I mean I'll usually get
a smirk or a chuckle. I that actually was a
ha so legitimate one.

Speaker 2 (01:33:41):
Yeah, they actually went there and I was like, okay,
all right, this this could work. I'm I'm gonna I'm
gonna give them a chance here.

Speaker 3 (01:33:48):
So cautiously optimistic.

Speaker 2 (01:33:51):
One good thing to come out a synicon, how about that?

Speaker 5 (01:33:53):
Yeah, a sea of doom in a world where everything
is doom and gloom.

Speaker 3 (01:33:59):
One beacon shines the summer.

Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
Out of the dismal light.

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
Lissdaye there it is.

Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
Yes, Yeah, his show was hilarious.

Speaker 3 (01:34:12):
Actually that raised anatomy for a twenty second season.

Speaker 2 (01:34:19):
All right, well that's gonna burn it up. For this one.
We used all the jam as we like to say. So, Ordy,
why don't you tell people where can they find more
of you?

Speaker 3 (01:34:28):
Well, surprisingly, you can still find me on x as
ordnance packard. Gasp, it's more shocked than I am. Oh yeah,
last tight, when I was talking about my frequent walk house,
I said I hadn't been locked out today. They locked
me up like right after its those words were coming
out of my mouth. Let's see you can also I'm
off the rest of the week. You can find me
next week on my usual places. Let's see uh manorama

(01:34:53):
on uh right, here on kaylor And Radio and X
and Rank Christie's Rumble Channel. Wednesday is I believe it
is the appropriate week for toxic masculinity Wednesday Night, where Aggie,
Rick g and myself and Andrew bring you all things
toxic and masculine. And then I'm on Rick and Already

(01:35:14):
and the Juxtaposition on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (01:35:17):
How about you?

Speaker 3 (01:35:17):
Where can people find your magnificence.

Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
Fantastic?

Speaker 3 (01:35:22):
Where where can they see more of your hair?

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
Well? You know, I uh I that would be on
only fans subscription only for the hair. Come on, you know,
we got to keep that on the deal. But on
a daily basis, you can check me out over at
townhall dot com, where I cover the media, the press
and all the foibles going on there daily basis of
my column rifts from the headlines. Also at the front
page of Red State on the regular, and I got

(01:35:47):
a twice weekly podcast there it's called Liable Sources, where
I go even deeper into the muck and meer of
the media. You can hear more of me right here
on this network as well. Next Thursday, I'm gonna be
here with Paul Young Green ramp He and I take
you through the dark side of Hollywood and bad films
with disasters in the making, and Tuesday evenings at eight

(01:36:08):
and a half, I'm here with the ever Efforvis and
Aggie Reekin. She and I help you take your mind
off of the stresses of politics and everything else with
culture and drinking and sports and all kinds of other
relaxation on the cocktail lounge. And then if you need
more of me than that, let's face what you do,
you head over to jitter and I am at Martini Shark.

(01:36:30):
All right, Ordy, that was a fast one. We had
a bunch and it got out quick.

Speaker 3 (01:36:34):
So yeah, yeah, it was kind of funny because I
was talking about it in our discord channel. It was like, God,
there's only one outlet reporting actual news today. I didn't
think we you know, but we did it chok full
of jam.

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
Well, I think everybody's scared to report on stuff. Maybe
I don't know if that's what it was, but there's
plenty going on for us to cover, and we willubble
it all together and in a fortnight we will be
right back here for you on the Culture Shift.

Speaker 3 (01:37:06):
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