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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:59):
And how it is everybody doing in k l r
N Land. This is Thursday evening, which means it's your
early introduction to the weekend. Yes, this is the culture shift.
How's everybody doing? I'm Brad Slager and we are getting
ready to take you on a foray into all of
the vital entertainment information. But not doing this by myself
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because every fortnight I am joined on the Hollywood Walk
of Fame with Orty Packer at America's most laser focused
and digitized Amish individual. How's everything going already?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
You know it's beautiful, spring is sprung. We kind of
toggle between seventies and eighties out here, a little bit
of rain, trafficking weather on the threes here on Kellerindradio
dot com. How about you, Brad? What's going on out
in America's wang?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
We're just we got too much going on, as anybody
can expect, with all of the all of the mayhem
going on politically, socially, in this country. But we're here
to distract from such, so hopefully we can bring the
entertainment to the people that want their entertainment to distract
from the mayhem.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yes, that's that's what we do. We don't talk about
politics directly, but as Andrew Breitbart said, politics is down
stream from cultures. So if we talk about it now,
expected in the news two weeks later politically somehow whatever anyway, Hi, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
All uh, it's all interconnected anymore. These days, there's always
some kind of intertwining between the political side and the
entertainment side. Even if the entertainment side can't shut up
about certain things. It just seems to be the course too.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
But that's it won't work to it. I'm loving this.
Another Disney movie is gonna go down in flames because
their actors can't shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, it's almost as if they don't listen to our podcast.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
They really should. Sometimes they act like they do and
then they turn around and do ship like that.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
It's it is amazing, It is amazing. But on that topic,
we can I think we can maybe this week put
snow White to bed, can we not? So?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, that I may we never have to speak of
it again.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I just I enjoyed this headline though, where you came
up with this story where they said snow White has
crossed a milestone as if an accomplishment has been reached, Yes, during.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Its fourth weekend. This is huge. This is another milestone
for snow White, and milestone being is that they are
now the fourth movie in twenty twenty five to pass
the eighty million domestic mark in their fourth week I
mean live action film.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Because I see this headline and my first my first
reaction is what intern at Disney wrote this headline? Right?
Because what hearin?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
And Disney was forced to write this headline as penance
for allowing Green Eminems to sneak into.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
So Bob by your's secretary or such must have come
in with DCAF coffee one morning or something. That's it.
You have to put out the pr this week. No,
don't make me do that.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I'm sorry. This does not look like Mickey ears in
my latte.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeesh. Well here if you haven't followed our show, this
is why this particular announcement is so hilarious. I don't
see it as often anymore, but it used to be
when a movie really underperformed on its opening weekend. You
would see advertisements on Monday or Tuesday where they would
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proclaim it to be the number one family movie of
America or the number one comedy in America, even though
the movie we came in third place at the box office.
You know, they try to come up with some qualifiers
so they can still justify putting number one on screen.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
It's like this happened to be the highest grossing Disney
live action remake of of a nearly one hundred year
old animated classic released in the month of April. Mark
It's like the uh, the dollar is the lead.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
It's like my favorite scene from the movie mister Baseball,
you can't send me down. I was tied for third
a month, like tended third Basement in the month of
August for triples in the late innings. You know, it's
that kind of crap and.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Just absolutely reaching, grasping at all the straws to pull,
to snatch, you know, to find some victory, some win.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
There must be a statistic out there we can hang
our hat on. So here's why this one is so
particularly hilarious. After one month in theaters, Snow White has
finally crested the dollar figure that they initially anticipated for
opening weekend right because these projections were, Oh, this could
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this could make seventy five to eighty million. They were
saying this in like late January, and then reality said it.
As we've covered here, no you're you're not.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
No, you knew they knew it was going to fail
when they released it in March, because, as we've talked about,
March is where they dump movies because there's the post
post awards show glut where there's nothing in the theaters
because everybody is just fucking tired. It's too far away
from the next Oscar season, it's nowhere near the summer point.
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It's just where I give it a shot, and it
still took a month when there's nothing against.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
It, right, March is it's pretty much that loone, that
dead spot in the schedule between the Oscars and just
before the summer blockbuster season kicks in. So these are
the movie they hope they'll find an audience. They'll they'll
beg that anybody can get out there. You know, they're
hungry for something new, so that'll do it.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Or my analogy for March is it's the bye week
you can't actually lose. They can't win, but they can't lose.
And still, well, Bill.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
We have cataloged the failures of this movie, We've catalogued
why it failed, what has led to this apocalyptic result,
and it has all pretty much rested on the mouth
of their star Rachel Zegler. Well, one would think lessons
to be learned, you know, like maybe we shouldn't do this. Well,
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we're here to tell you lessons we're not learned.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
So this summer the memo did not go out prior
to this article being written.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And the question is just how how in the hell
has nobody picked up on this so summertime release. For Disney,
they're pending their hopes on reinvigorating their Marvel franchises, which
have really fallen into disfavor ever since Endgame. They just
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really have had a hard time striking that same vein
of gold. Yeah, that was a high water mark, with
maybe the exception of Deadpool, of course, but Deadpool in
and of itself is an exception on every conceivable level.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
So yeah, right, it's it's a Disney r It's yeah,
it's I think, while being part of it, exists independent.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, Deadpool basically exists in order to be contrary to
the entire Marvel universe as the character has been drawn
and written. So that's that's all.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Breaking tongue in cheek, exactly designed doing exactly what it
is designed to do exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
So yeah, that is going you have to kind of
screw up, you have to try to make Deadpool net work.
That's the way that works out. So which was for that,
But they want to get Marvel back on track, and
their hopes have been pinned on the Fantastic Four. Now
this is a franchise with a pass that we could
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conservatively charitably called checkered. They had a lot of success
with this one.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
No, I mean you had the you know, the two
thousand and five one. It did okay, it was funny,
it was kind of time. I mean, it wasn't great,
but that was also before the age of superhero films,
so it was kind of like, you know, it was
like the MCU shit, so it was kind of it
can stand on its own. Its sequel was less than good,
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but for what it was, I mean, I think they
in the original one, they put together a decent cast
and they had fun and it was kind of a
fun rop. So Okay, you know, it wasn't great. It
wasn't you know, it wasn't a fucking Iron Man, but
it was all right.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, it's probably it could probably be labeled as.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Watchable, but yeah, I'd rewatch.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
One of the problems with that film, however, is you
have not one but two lengthy segments of your superheroes
sitting around not doing something.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Right, basically all having a new life crisis.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
That's that's an interesting decision. So when they first get
blasted by the you know, starlight plasma storm that transforms
them all, the first thing they do is they all
go into quarantine and they have to sit around the
headquarters and do stuff. And then later they build a
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machine that's going to change them all up, so they
have to reconvene there and hang out for a while
to find out if this word I mean you have
a superhero movie where basically everybody is on spring break.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Wow, there, Adam Web, there's no way to go.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
But yeah, the sequel, like you said, was not so good,
and then they tried to reboot the franchise with director
Josh Trank on a release that was absolutely god awful.
I'm a single person.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
That likes that movie, much like the sequel to Independence Day.
I have emotionally repressed having watched that movie. Go through therapy.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yeah, and now, I mean you want to talk about
storyline decisions they have. The individual who turns into doctor
Doom is created when they go into another dimension. They
all come out, but do wants to stay in that
dimension and they're like, no, no, you have to come
back with us, which this is off Doom and turns
him into a villain. Just send his ass right back
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to the realm and you're fine.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
But oh shit, because the problem here what he ain't happy.
Let's send him back.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
But then we wouldn't have a movie. You would have
a fifteen minute interesting have a movie anyway, So yeah,
we've got this Fantastic four on the horizon.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
This summer, I was still everything heard looks fucking great.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Bah.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
I'm sorry, Hello, did we lose Brad. He's still behind
the scenes, but I think we lost them. Yep, Okay,
all right, so you're ready to step in, Jeff, Hold
on a second.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
We're dealing with is boot and we've talked about this before,
have we not, Brad?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
We lost you for a bit live radio. So if
you can see me right now, I'm doing the Michigan
j frog ans. Let me see all right, let me
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tell Brady's in and out. Okay, yeah, you did, all right,
So anyway you're ready to hop in, Jeff, I think so.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Right.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
So flash forward to twenty five summer release Fantastic Four.
All the stills and everything look fucking fantastic. You know
it's gonna be set in the sixties. They're you know,
their costumes look kind of traditional to your end. You
gotta remember the Fantastic Four is what launched Marvel, you know,
this is what really good entire thing off of. So
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now we have this big right up and Entertainment weekly
and the actors can't shut up.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
It's kind of surprising that they don't learn.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Yeah, yeah, okay, So let's go with Okay, first of all,
the uh the British actress Vanessa Kirby, who's playing Sue Storm.
Her recent comments on the topic were, if you played
in exact nineteen sixties Sue today everyone thinks she was
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a bit of a doormat. So figuring out how to
capture the essence of what you represented to each generation
where the gender politics were different and embody that today
was one of the greatest joys. You've always been really interested.
I've always been really interested in the mess of femininity
and how you can be both and how you can
be all the things. Honey, your movie is set in
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the sixties.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Right, Yeah, that was a curious one, was it not
she doesn't want sixty sensibilities in a movie set in
the sixties. Yeah, so, okay, this is exactly what took
place with snow White, the star of the show, dumping
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on the source material.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
It's like they did a template. And you know, one
of the things I didn't see it in this article,
but the actor who's playing the Torch, he made a
comment of how he was a misogynistic jackass and kind
of going to be changing up the character. The reason
why he was the Torch was because he was kind
of a playboy, a kind of a you know, not
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really misogynistic, but he was. Yeah, he was a womanizer.
But uh, that's his characters defining characteristic.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah, that was kind of the thing during the comic books.
I mean, Johnny Storm was a player. That was his characteristic.
But we have we have to modernize.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
It's not like, okay, well you know that was written
in the sixties. It's different today. They just did that
in two thousand and five. They did it again in
twenty fifteen. Don't try to throw your modern sensibilities into it.
We're only ten years removed from when that was perfectly
acceptable and a character tree.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
They also are going with a female Silver Surfer.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Great now, okay, in fairness, in that role, it really
doesn't matter. But still I have to ask.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Why though, Yeah they I mean, I know there's been
incarnations in the past of the Silver Surfer taking feminine
qualities or such, but pretty much from the inception which
this would be given they're making this an origin film,
it was a dude, I'm sorry, Yeah, just why are
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we going this way? Like you couldn't find any male
actors to play the role. And it's not a matter
of race or anything, because the character is literally top
to bottom silver, But we're gonna go with the female. Okay.
So to start, we've got Sue Storm, who doesn't like
her character. We've got a female Silver Server, and we
have Johnny Storm becoming a beta male.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Yeah. Yes, he's going from what are we doing? He's
going from womanizer to womanists. Yeah, this is much like
how they sent in a social media guru to protect
that fucking hobgoblin from herself. Too late, too late. Copies
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of this Entertainment Weekly out on the shelf right now,
can't you can't unfunck that now.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I was trying to be charitable about this because obviously
this was an article very long in the world, because
they sent there writer out to England to go to
Pinewood Studios hang out on the set. You know, this
is very well could have been written eight months, a
year ago or such.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
But this is that a blurb. This is a long run.
I mean it's this is a cover article I have.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Each actor is given a lot of time to talk
about their craft and their journey in the character of
that kind of crap. And I only say all this
because I think we've talked on the show before how
this looked like a good movie. I was anticipating this.
I was excited to go see this one.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
I think about a show about a month ago I
was actually talking about I'm actually excited. This looks good.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah. I think the most harsh thing we had talked
about was making fun of one of the posters that
was clearly made from artificial intelligence, but otherwise We're like, yeah,
this is gonna be cool. And now the cast has
started opening up their traps and not so much anymore.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Yeah, and I think that common out the h the
AI artwork was just because we happened to be talking.
It was, you know, a tangent of the AI of
an AI story we were doing.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah, we're you know, we've been covering how you know,
the all the strikes were centered on artificial intelligence and
not letting that come into Hollywood, And yet it seems
like every single episode we have another example of it.
But yesh, and you know, I want to cut them
slack and say, oh, you know, this is so far
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back that maybe they didn't have all these preemptive measures
in place yet. But Rachel Zegler's been opening her taco
hole for quite a few years already. I mean, her
first comments about snow White. We're in twenty twenty two.
I want to say, people were like, wait, what, how
did the memo not get to the set of Fantastic four.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
I I think, Okay, here's my honest say that the
uh the C suites at Disney Eiger and you know,
down on top of you know, Figie and the rest.
I think with Zegler, they were pretty much yes, Queen
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until it wasn't yeah, which about last year sometime you
could see a sea change in the tone of America
where this shit no longer flew and it was just
like among the right, I mean it was among everybody
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had just collectively decided cut the fuck up.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Yeah, Aggie and I have talked about this on our
Cocktail Lounge show, where pretty much I think it was
the debate and the assassination attempt that really saw a
title shift in attitude in this country where people were like,
you know what, we ain't putting up with this anymore,
and tolerance for this nonsense evaporated almost instantly at that point. So, yes,
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Ziggler's out there still doing her I'm a Queen rendition
on interviews. It's like, you know what we're really doing
these days, and people like, shut up, we're not going
to your movie now, and.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
She'd probably I mean most people anyway. But then when
she's like, I'm gonna shoo hover my project. Oh by
the way, free Palestine.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah, and that, and then after the election she was
telling Trump voters that they don't she doesn't want them
to have any peace in their lives going forward. It's like, well,
you just literally cut your entire audience in half.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Well, I hate to break your I hate to break
it to your sweetheart, but the peace in my life
is not seeing your movie. That brings me peace.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
So you had to see the Running of the Wall
at some point at Disney's Like, why wouldn't they be?
Like I said when I wrote about this, I've got
a contact of mine who is a producer in Hollywood,
and he has told me that they are now inserting
language in their initial contracts to this effect that if
you say something that's going to damage us, it's going
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to cost you. You're going to lose out on bonuses
or secondary residuals, or in some fashion, you're going to
be held responsible if you say something that affects the
prospects of the product.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Yeah, because I mean, you're not just hurting yourself, you're
hurting everybody who's working on the film because you can't
shut the fuck up right.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
And he says this is becoming prevalent. I know because
I said to him, I said, well, this is something
that should be widespread. He's like, oh, no, it is happening.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Yeah, it's a boiler plate contract. Now now it's like,
oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
By the way, if you say something, you're responsible for
what you said. I'm very curious how this is floating
with the with the agents and other lawyers out there.
That's gotta be fun negotiations. So okay, you want the role.
Here's the thing. We're in charge of your social media.
Now what you could just get a sense of the
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freak out that could take place around them.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
You know, that's going to kind of separate the week
from the chaff though, because you know, prior to current era,
the only time actors really got in trouble was when they,
you know, knock somebody up, or went on a long
rant about drunken rant about Jews, or a drunken rant
eating their burger, telling them what a pig their daughter was.
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So you know, it's pretty far and few between. Now
it's like every week.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Well, what I find interesting is machine. I think I'll
say it was probably pre COVID at least, it used
to be that cancel culture was seeking out ways of
going after people. So if you said something that was
deemed to be insensitive in some fashion, you know, the
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woke crowd would try to hold you accountable. Yeah, And
like if you said I think all lives matter or
I don't see color something as neutral as that would
get you in trouble with them, right, and they would
try to lodge boycotts and crap. This is a complete
one eighty when we talk about the shift that's taking
place in this country. It's trying to push that woke
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agenda that people are reacting to and say, well, we're
done with you. And it's not you know, we're going
to cancel you or we're gonna ruin your career. It's
just like, well, we're not doing your product. I'm not
gonna spend my money on your nonsense. Right, that's an
effective way of canceling. I mean Ziegler is, she's got
to be toxic right now as far as casting agents go.
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I I have.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
A feeling I'm gonna see her at a Starbucksh're behind
a circle k and not too long from now. It's
very likely because she made a fuck ton of money,
whether you know, Snowhite did well or not, and she's
still sitting on West Side Sorry, which wasn't good either.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Well. I wrote about this over at town Hall. I
did a rundown of her filmography. There's only one of
her six movies that could be possibly deemed a hit,
and that would be the cat Mius Everdeen extension. You know,
the part of a franchise. It wasn't really her. Anything
else where she was featured has bombed, not just failed bombed.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
See. Okay, So while I was uh, I saw something
about her on YouTube the other day and it was
just a short, but it was kind of what I
found the gist of it was was okay. So there
was this event when Jenna Ortega was trying to get
Zegor's attention, and Zegor just kind of gave the peasant thing,
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even though Ortega has been doing this a lot longer,
with you know, increasing paying her dues, and she just
got kind of brushed off. Who still has a career,
who was still acting.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, it's uh, it's it's hilarious because then you know,
she shot the fame, let's say, because a West Side Story.
Disney took a complete bath on that film. Yeah, absolutely,
I mean it was you know, Oscar nominated. No, it's
Spielberg and oh look at all this woke nonsense that
was in it, and it's so fabulous and Oscar's this
and it made seventy five million. It probably lost one
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hundred mil for.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
The studio and they can't even use the Oh it's
a musical. It didn't do well because Hamilton only made
a billion fucking dollars.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yes, and it is only you know, going on from there.
She was in the fiasco that was Shazam, the sequel
that knew, but he went to go see. She was
in something she was in on December y two. K
It was called like a retro horror movie.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
H never heard of it.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Total run, it made six million dollars.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
And Kal just said in the chat to she has
no upcoming projects and the only thing she's doing as
a US a play in England that she was signed
for before the snow White catastrophe.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Yeah, she's doing Romeo and Juliet I believe on stage
right now. Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Why so I'm gonna lynch her in London?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Well, you know she was you don't go into.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
The Bard's house and oh, I really Juliette was just
she's just such, you know, she's I can just see
her putting her bullshit woke spin on Juliet.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
And I would love to see that, wouldn't you how
will Well Shakespeare is like really old and outdated and
doesn't really speak to women today. So I'm gonna take
Juliet and make her into like a self appointed woman
of power.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
And oh my god, that Romeo guy, he's just such
a stalker. He doesn't even need to be in it.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
It's like, you know, sexism, right, weird? Uh huh, don't
need that.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yeah, please please do that, Rachel.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
I would just love to see this.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
This script gives me the X. I want to do
something better. Please, for the love of God, do that.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
But yeah, this is this is a scenario where I
don't think her career is looking too good. It's not
even rooting for it. I'm just looking at the numbers.
That's where we're at. We did talk about I believe
how this performance of snoweight killed off the live action
remake of Tangled, did we not? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Yeah, yeah, uh. They've pumped the brakes on that because,
of course, it's the fact that it's a live action remake,
not the fact that your toshik as Fox Star absolutely
torpedoed your movie for a year before it had a chance.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
To come out. Let's let's blame other productions on that.
But I only bring it up as a segue here,
Latin Nice, the uh tomb Raider live action series appears
to be dead. The amazing part here, they've been working
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on this for about half a dozen years. Didn't even
know about it.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Yeah, six years and tens of millions of dollars being
spent and I didn't know about it. I actually think
we talked about it when this is one of those
early Amazon acquisition of MGM stories franchises they would have
access to, and it was kind of like in prospect
at the time. This was early on, This was like
pre COVID, and we were talking about it. But yes,
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they attached box Office Gold Phoebe waller Bridge to this project.
You may remember her from such films as the Last
Indiana Jones movieh And they got Sophie Turner to play
lower Croft in it, which I've played the moded nude
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Raider version of tomb Raider. Well, Sophie Turner is nice,
does not have Lara Croft's assets. I'm just kidding to
put it out that. I'm saying it now.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
No, No, that's mine. You gotta you gotta take a stand,
You gotta you gotta be bold about these things.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
I get it, British, right head. I totally get where
they were going with it. But uh yeah, well, and
I liked I liked in this. I liked in this
piece where they refer to Sophie Turner as uh, you know,
from the Phoenix, not because she didn't do seven seasons
of Game of Thrones and that's the only reason anybody
knows her name talk about the movie.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Nobody remembers exactly. That's the part that's amusing. And uh,
as I recalled, Dark Phoenix was not exactly one that
lit up the theater screens either. It was not. So yeah,
that does say a lot, does it not. I didn't
even didn't even recognize that Asthmako. But you when you
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don't want to mention Game of Thrones or sorry Lord Rings,
I mean, it's just what you're in, this sprawling epic.
You don't want to No, no, we don't. Let's walk
away from.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
That because as long as we're talking about dead things,
let's put it in with Dark Phoenix.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
And uh.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Yeah, but I mean this is what's amazing. This is okay,
So this whole thing is being pinned by h Phoebe
waller Bridge, and she's been working on it for years,
earning twenty million dollars a year with a golden handcuff
steel since twenty nineteen year.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I I kind of want to give them credit for
doing this because, you know, as opposed to Batgirl, where
they completed production on film.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
And shelved it and under budget too.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Uh, this would be more a case of cutting your
losses ahead of time.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
So, okay, they're down with snow White. Shoot, here's the
here's the thing. This is where the scam is perfect.
There is no noticeable work that has been done on
this project in development in six years at a cost
of taking her salary alone one hundred and twenty million dollars.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah, I mean, how how do you do that? Unless
you're Amazon and you just have a shit ton of
money where you could even launch five broads into space
on a rocket dong because you have the money to
do So that's about it.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Well, the vegas is that this is the striding Amazon
had an idea to bring back the whole franchise. They're
gonna start with the TV show, movies, video games. It
was all because a lot of people don't know Amazon
has their own You know, like Unity Engine or Unreal Engine.
They have their own gaming engine platform too. And yeah,
so this was going to be a holistic approach to
(32:54):
the revamp of tomb Raider.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yeah. Yeah, then and this kills everything. I mean, the
fact that they didn't do this series means all of
the production going forward is now as they say production.
Hell yes, everything is compromised as a result. And so
you dropped one hundred million dollars to own a complete ip,
(33:21):
not just you know, TV rights or movie everything. You
own tomb rate or you just dropped one hundred million
on it and you're gonna do nothing right. That's why
I love Hollywood.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Because you know. Yeah, so apparently though they have her
pinned to a Phoebe waller Bridge being her, have her
pinned to develop another project at a substantially reduced rate
of pay.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
That doesn't say much, though, When you pocket one hundred
million dollars to do nothing.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Right, that's like, okay, we pay now, we want work
out of you.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
I mean, you could probably be pissed off right now. Wait,
I'm only gonna make twenty million and you want me
to work right? This sucks?
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Still sucks.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Call my agents where the city I love it. I
just love it. Well, we are on streaming tonight. That's
gonna be pretty heavy, pretty big stuff going on there.
And well, let's just go to the giant, the Titan,
the big one Netflix.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Netflix. Okay, back in the day, we said Disney could
do no wrong until they just kept feeding quarters into
the dick punching machine Netflix. Even when they're losing, they're
still winning.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, they've You would have thought that when they raised
rates on subscribers that could be a sign of trouble,
either driving people away or a sign that they're not
making as much money and they need to recoop it.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
And there everybody thought that they're see now, this is
one of those things. Even we said the uh, the
lower tier subscriber or lower lower tier ADS supported service
that would be generally rejected by Netflix viewers because this
is one of the times where our pressing has failed
(35:20):
us be rejected by subscribers because who wants fucking ads.
It's either a faster or it's not. There's no mid tier.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Well, I think this turned out to be a case
where they attracted a different audience like there, I don't
think there's subscribers were scaling down to save money, I think,
drawing the people in that didn't want to drop a
significant higher amount, So like, yeah, I'll go cheap and
do the fast. Why the hell not?
Speaker 3 (35:49):
You know, these are to prove your point. The uh,
the lower tier uh saw a six percent gain in
viewership for the company, and revenue grew twelve point five percent.
So there's your six percent plus the ad supported side
of it. So there's a twelve percent growth. I'll go
with that.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah, And I mean as a company in the first quarter,
they just they defied all of the negatives there, so
they made more money and they increased subscribership at the
same time with a price increase. Damn. I just I
just have to shake my head. I mean, we were
(36:31):
waiting for constriction to take place in the streaming sector.
It seems to be happening to everybody button Netflix.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Yeah. The revenue in the quarter was ten point five
four billion dollars, up twelve percent from last year, and
their operating income as three point three to five billion.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
And they said they're satisfied with the ad supported side
of things. So I mean they're that earnings per share up,
revenue up, and you can't find a downside. Here really Well, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Was looking at their most recently reported subscriber total, and
I mean it's global, but they're not all around the globe.
Mostly in US and Canada, a little bit in Latin America,
a little bit in Middle East and East Africa, some
in Europe. Not a lot, but three point one million subscribers.
(37:32):
That would be the equivalent of three out of four
Americans subscribing to Netflix.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah, I mean they are truly a you know, international platform.
It's just And they also revealed how the top two
CEOs of the company performed last year, Ted Sarandos and
Greg Peters. Both of them made more than sixty million
apiece last year.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
That's a that's a good raak for C suite. But
was they're both uh? I don't know if they said
that Greg Peters was staying, but the the other co
founder is leaving the board. He's not gonna stand for
re election.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Oh that was you're talking about Read Hastings. Yeah, well,
they said he was going to become the chairman of
the board. I guess he's uh or no, out of
chairman of the board and non executive director, I guess
is what it is.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Okay, So he's not on the board, but he's still
got his finger in the pie.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Yeah, he'll I'm sure he's still gonna get residuals that
are gonna be mind bending. I mean.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
And Netflix is so low key about it too, you know.
It's I mean, I don't see their ads everywhere they
I mean except for when I log into Netflix. They're
not pumping their ship in my face all over the place,
you know. They just you know what, we're here doing
our thing. Come watch us or won't, don't, but you
know you're going to anyway, so just you know.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Yeah, I think the most audacious thing they really do
is maybe putting hot buttons on the remotes. But apart
from that.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Yeah, there are one Oscar offering a year that we
make fun. It goes in, it goes into just enough
theaters for just enough time to earn a Oscar nomination.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
And I still got to give them credit for it
because they're playing the Hollywood game, and Hollywood hates.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Them for it totally.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
It's like, oh, so you can do it for decades,
but when we try it, you get angry. Huh. Well,
I with this, with this quarterly report, had to be
an announcement that sent some shivers through other sectors of
the intertainment industry as they're toying with the idea now
(39:55):
like one of the things they've been doing is getting
more and more into live television.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
I really liked this. Uh it wasn't directly a quote,
but it's kind of like reading between the lines on it.
They were asked, because of course Hollywood reporter has to
make things political from time to time. I mean, this
is the rap, but I mean a Hollywood reporter, not
the actual publication. How are President Donald Trump's tariff's policies
going to affect you? And they didn't outright say it doesn't,
(40:24):
but they said it doesn't. I said, well, I'm sure
it might affect some studios.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Yeah, because hard to factor in how streaming would be
affected by tariffs exactly out Yeah, production costs in certain
areas maybe, but as far as sending the product, no, yeah, no,
that's not we'll.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Do Yeah, we make movies, but you know that that's
that's a production studio problem. That's you know, that's baked
into the cost. That's the cost of doing business.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Yeah. I think the the biggest spear to go into
Hollywood regarding tariffs was when China was like, oh, yeah, well,
screw Hollywood, We're not going to take as many movies
per year, and the studios that probably paralyzed them when
they heard it, and Donald Trump went, ah, yeah, that.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Might have affected Disney, but as all the buzz on
social media said, it was like, good, does that mean
we'll get good movies again? I would admit, since everybody
started focusing on the Chinese market, going all the way
back to the Red Dawn rebooting a little bit before,
you know, with all the bullshit with John Senna and
everything else, I think partially to blame why we only
(41:37):
get reboots and very little creativity is because of the
Chinese market.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Yeah. Plus, on top of that, Hollywood has shown, probably
in the last couple decades, a tendency to actually censor
themselves on behalf of the Chinese.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Right, they don't need the Chinese censors, they do it
for them.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Cracks me up because I mean, go back to the
seventies or even the eighties, the mere whisper of censorship
would have just howls coming out of Hollywood, And now
the Chinese are like, you can't put that in the movie,
or we're not going to show it. You're like, okay,
we'll take it out, no problem.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
Yeah, just like this iconic jacket of a franchise that's
been successful for forty years. Problem.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
I mean, uhh, what was it with an Iron Man
that had the character of the Mandarin.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Yes, that they turned into a bumbling, fucking retard played
by take him out.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Yeah, so one of their i mean box office massive hits,
they had to censor one of the characters. Pirates had
a Caribbean. Same thing. They had to take out a
character that was Chinese because that offended them and the
studio like, oh absolutely.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
You know, the Force Awakens, they had to take the
big uh yeah, the big co billing of the black
actor in the film and then shrink him down into
a tiny little corner, you know, kind of like they
would do with cartoons, you know, and during the you
know golden age of Hollywood where you'd have a god
with the wind and puttle bugs Bunny down the barn.
You know that they it was gonna have a Bugs
(43:12):
money featurette before it too. That's what they did with him.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Yeah, so maybe they won't have to do that anymore.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Us a bad thing for the American consumer.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Yeah, I mean generally, it doesn't really affect us because
they'll still I mean, they were even gonna do this
with Maverick. If you recall when the.
Speaker 3 (43:35):
That's what I was talking about, changing the jacket.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
And yeah, the initial trailer came out and then they
just said ef it and that just to this day
floors me. I'm still shocked by that they actually had
the stones to do it, and look at it, they
got rewarded. How about that?
Speaker 3 (43:49):
Why didn't they?
Speaker 2 (43:51):
But yeah, so Netflix is actually looking to scare others
now because this quarterly report they said that they're now
looking in to podcasts and video content i'll llah Spotify
and video content like on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
Yeah, so I mean, did we need more of that?
But on the other hand, for people like you and me,
it's fantastic. I mean, we won't get on Netflix.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
But you know, it looked like they were going to
maybe go in a different direction where they would take
their existing talent and you know, once a movie gets
out on their platform, have that person then segue over
to doing a podcast or video cast, either about it
or surrounding it in some fashion. Yeah, they've touched on
(44:47):
a few things of that nature, and there looking to
maybe codify this in a way and make it a
regular feature. Okay, so there.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
Needs the Walking Dead or the Talking Dead. What's Chris
Hardwick doing? Just put him on TV twenty four to seven.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Well, they tried to do this too with the Amazon
tried it with the Boys. Yeah that didn't really work. No,
no not. I watched like I think too. I watched
the first one that said, man, this sucks, it's got
to get better, and then it didn't. So bye.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
That's about as many as I gave it to you.
That may have been as many as there were.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Yeah, for all I know, I haven't heard anything about
it since either.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
But yeah, you run up to your room and get
a beer, all right?
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Why don't we give it a shout?
Speaker 3 (45:40):
No, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Were we done?
Speaker 2 (45:42):
I didn't might dad? No, that's fine. We were on
a wrap. So we want to Uh I want to
take a break here?
Speaker 3 (45:51):
Yes, yes I do, because I need a beer. I
mean you started the show without a beer because you
left it elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Yes, and I think the quality has suffered as a result.
Is everybody is hurted?
Speaker 3 (46:01):
I'm sure it has, right, it'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Well, if I'm not immediately back I will be so uh,
go ahead and get your refills in the lobby, load
up the corn, refill the cokes, and we here on
the Culture Shift. We'll be back at about three and
a half for more entertainment news.
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Speaker 2 (50:25):
All right in welcome back to the Culture Shift. We're
we're back here, I think on an even keel. Now,
we got our refills. We're good to go. Or do
I not have my co host hang on?
Speaker 3 (50:44):
I forgot to on mute. Yeah no, we're balanced reading
and we're right yeah no, sorry here right, I'm prattling
on like a fucking retard for at least thirty seconds.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
See, I get all my crap straightened out here, and
now you go sideways.
Speaker 3 (50:56):
Yeah. So okay, So one quick thing before we move on.
I'm seeing on the eyebar one of our sources. While
we're talking about reboots and reimaginings and everything else, Peacock
is developing a continuation of Clueless starring Alisa Silverstone.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
Really now starring Silverstone? Yes? So is this going to
what feature her granddaughter? I because yeah, that's an old property.
Speaker 3 (51:36):
The Sabrina the teenage Witch thing. I don't know, no,
I mean it was loosely related to Bewitched, and but yeah,
just okay whatever.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
Yeah, I'm not really sure there's much of a demand
for this.
Speaker 3 (51:54):
Yeah, going back to my patented did we want this?
Was this something people asked for?
Speaker 2 (52:03):
I don't Yeah, I don't know that there's pent up
demand for Clueless, and whatever there might be would just
involve people watching Clueless. It's not like they need a revamped,
modernized version of this. That's really a movie of its era.
Speaker 3 (52:21):
I mean, yeah, because that was absolutely the vapid late
gen X early millennial latte sipping. Yeah that you know,
that's a snapshot in history. That's not I mean, unless
it's like, you know, where are they now?
Speaker 2 (52:38):
Think?
Speaker 3 (52:38):
Okay, so thinking like this. Though Cobra Kai was successful,
nobody asked for a Karate Kid spin off.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
Yeah yeah, I mean it's you know, we could sit
here and crap on this stuff that you know maybe,
But with Cobra Kai though, they kind of reworked it too.
It's it's Bobby. It's completely different though, it's not what
they did and that was clever. Yeah, they did something
with it, so I suppose if you can, but I
(53:09):
don't know. Clueless was kind of a one note thing.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
Yeah, though they did have a TV show for too,
and thankfully they're revamping the Police of silver Stones Clueless
not the TV shows.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
So and like Jeff said, Paul Rudd could be in
this and would look exactly the same.
Speaker 3 (53:27):
Yeah, he's.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
Very apprecient there. I gotta tell you that's a good one.
Speaker 3 (53:32):
Because all Ruds and fucking everything.
Speaker 2 (53:36):
He's uh yeah he is Benjamin Button, is he not?
He is? All right, Well, where do you want to
go here? Already? Because uh, because of my condition on
the road as I am, I'm uh, I'm gonna have
to kind of turn over the controls to you. You
got to kick this big. Where do you want to
go next?
Speaker 3 (53:51):
Okay? Yeah, so this one actually I wish I had
brought it up back when we were doing Disney's Woes
and everything else, but a little you know, this is
just an update of a story we've covered quite extensively
in that the lawsuit that Gina Kurna has filed against Disney.
The federal judge said, yeah, your emotion to Capel is granted.
(54:13):
We want to see everything that every star Wars has
earned or will earn in future projects. Basically the TV
Prize Ahsoka with Rosario Dawson, Pedro Pascal's salary. They want
everybody's salary.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
This is the funny part because I'm sure as far
as Disney's looking at this, you know, they're like, oh, man,
are we going to be on the hook for defamation
or what? You know? What do we do with this girl?
How do we treat her? And now through Discovery they
have to turn over payroll information. I don't think they
(54:52):
saw that coming.
Speaker 3 (54:56):
I mean, when you got Ashoka, which was mildless successful,
and look at the players involved in this. You'll have
Rosario Dawson seeing what Pedro Piscal makes.
Speaker 2 (55:10):
Yeah, this is going to be this is this is
going to create a little bit of a turmoil, as
it were. And the you know who's gonna eat this
up even more than Gina Carano. The agents.
Speaker 3 (55:23):
Yeah, yeah, no, I because if you look at what
is looking more in damages, which is only like seventy
five k. Yeah, this is more of this. This is
more of oh, okay, you wanted to fuck me, well
fuck you because you're gonna have to deal with all
this drama. And not just for me and not the press.
(55:47):
Everybody's agent is gonna cawl up your ass now, good
luck see you.
Speaker 2 (55:51):
Yeah, because this is going to become for Disney. One
of those things that takes place in the off season
with the NFL, and that is anytime a top flight
athlete signs a massive contract, the very next thing that
happens is all of the ages use that as a
comparable for their client. As soon as the quarterback signs
(56:14):
for fifty million dollars, they start crutching statistics and say,
you know, on a yard's per past basis, my guy
is just as good as him. Yeah, And the team
says shit, and.
Speaker 3 (56:28):
The timing couldn't be perfect with the uh upcoming Mandalorian
and Grogu movie being made.
Speaker 2 (56:37):
So yes, with all of the various products that Disney's
putting out now on streaming, the fact that everybody's gonna
know what everybody else is making uh huh, that's gonna
that's gonna create some accounting headaches for Disney, I believe,
and if anything, it could very well provoke more open
(57:00):
and transparency as far as the streaming numbers go. Because
of a doctor demands too much, the studio can turn
around and say, well, they've only got so many billion
minutes spent compared to the other movie, and we'll have
we'll have some hard data as a result as a possibility.
Speaker 3 (57:19):
You know what I see this as I see this
as a line of agents going out of Lucasfilm's had
offices like a casting call.
Speaker 2 (57:29):
Yeah, and basically the payroll and accounting office will be
the one saying okay next with no excitement. I heard,
who's your client want?
Speaker 3 (57:43):
We can't handle this press, just rubber stamp every fucking.
Speaker 2 (57:48):
Oh man, this is funny. I mean really, The only
time you hear about salaries, for the most part is
either if it's a major movie and they say, oh,
he just signed for a twenty five million deal, or
it's the people at the very bottom making scale and
everybody knows what ye the people in between not as much.
And when it comes to streaming, this could be new revelations.
Speaker 3 (58:09):
Usually the ones on the bottom making scale too. You
don't hear about that during union negotiations. You know, we
want scale increase to a buck fifty or something like that,
you know, plus craft service privileges.
Speaker 2 (58:21):
And I gotta ask, here, is that seventy five thousand
actually accurate? You're sure it wouldn't be seventy five million.
I I mean, I know that's what they.
Speaker 3 (58:31):
Just says, seventy five k I would be. I mean
seven point fifty I can see this fight being worth.
But also Elon said he'd pick up the tab on
this lawsuit, so.
Speaker 2 (58:41):
Yeah, yeah, he he told her he was going to
pick up a legal So yeah, as far as that goes,
she's not too worried about. So even if she loses
and has to pay punitive on on the you know,
you're responsible for legal costs, he'll be not please.
Speaker 3 (58:57):
Because I mean that does seem well because she is
actually she's been able to demonstratly prove in court how
this has affected her acting career, how it's hard for
her to get gigs, and you know, especially since it's
like others have said much worse Ziegler, for instance, than
I have ever said, and they're still working. The tweet was,
(59:21):
wouldn't it be great if everybody were nice to each other?
That's what she got in trouble for.
Speaker 2 (59:26):
Yeah, that that hate speech. Yeah. The other reason I
say this too is, I mean, seventy five thousands of
pittance to Disney, and they would have probably give her
ten times that amount to make this go away, unless
it just says, you know, I don't even care about
the money, make it five dollars. We're still going to court,
you know, maybe.
Speaker 3 (59:45):
Well Disney. Disney's owned for that too. I mean, they've
taken families to court for misusing Daffy Duck's image, and oh,
you dared to have a Daffy Duck impersonator at your
his birthday party, Well we're gonna sue you for a
million dollars for what the fuck. I'm a single mom
(01:00:08):
of five kids. Don't care, We're Disney.
Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Fuck you. Yeah, And they they've also refused to pay
off families because they signed up for Disney Plus. As
we've covered that, one still killed me. Oh no, we
can't pay you damages because you signed the agreement when
you Yeah, oh, your.
Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
Loved one died in our park due to our negligence. Well,
did you read the terms and conditions on your Disney Plus.
Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Says here you watch Bluey. So I'm sorry, no payment.
Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
Yeah, we're not making this up, folks. This is the
stories we've covered.
Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Well. Uh, on that note segue, speaking of defamation suits.
Zachary Young, this is a former Navy veteran. I've covered
him and spoken to him a number of times regarding
the suit that he brought against CNN for defamation in January. Yeah,
and to this day I'm still staggered and amazed that
(01:01:09):
CNN was charged by a jury with they were liable
for defamation with malice. I mean, it's just hilarious to
me because this is, by the way, the network that
wouldn't shut up when Fox settled their defamation suit. Right,
and that true.
Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
And one of the things that CNN covered quite extensively
when Fox had to pay up for their defamation suit
was how extraordinarily hard It is how rare it is
for a news agency to even go to trial over
a defamation suit, because proving defamation too, you know, intentional
(01:01:49):
harm on a network, you know, on a news outlet
is impossible because they are just reporting the news.
Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
Yeah. Well, and I covered this extensively last year when
I first found out about it, I think it was
last summer when it first broke due. I mean I
found it on some deeply obscure weekly out of I
think Tampa or something, and then me and Nick finneckkerover
Newsbuster started covering it in tandem and then it blew up.
(01:02:21):
But when I first saw the documents and what they
got through discovery from CNN, I said, holy crap, these
guys are on the hook. It was harsh, it was ugly,
I mean, damn, And yeah he won. This is the difference, though,
for all of the score and they heaped on Fox.
Fox settled out of court. They never went to trial. Right.
(01:02:42):
A jury found CNN libel and the.
Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
Jury said, we would have charged them for more punitive damages,
but Florida law only allows us to award ten times
the images, you know, the regular damages, because there's regular
damage and there's punitive damages and.
Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Because almost sounded to me like somebody didn't explain to
the jury exactly because that's what it was was their
first Basically, they found him for professional and emotional damages
and that totaled out to be about I think five altogether. Yeah,
and that meant the punitive damages because of Florida could
(01:03:26):
only max out at fifty. So if they had actually
granted him more on the pro and the emotional side
of things, that it could have really skyrocketed for CNN.
But even so I think CNN said no, we don't
want I really don't even think it was the dollar
figure as much as it was being punished for liable
(01:03:48):
being in the press, all right, but it's still this
is horrific. This is horrible for a news outlet to
be found guilty of this.
Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
And so in the theme of one of the themes
of the show is people not learning their lessons, Zachary
Young Has No Fun Now filed suit against the AP
and a outlet called Puck News where their characterization of
CNN's loss in the defamation suit where they have further
(01:04:23):
defamed Zachary.
Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Yeah, and pretty much what they did is just echo
CN n without any regard of evidence. And it's like,
this is what happens when the entire media complex works
in lockstep with each other.
Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
Right, Because you have AP alleging that he smuggled people
out of Afghanistan. This was in their coverage of the
CNN's loss of a defamation and liable lawsuit. They continue
to defame and liable saying specifically the word smuggled, which
carries a negative connotation, often illegal connotation, when everything Zachary
(01:05:07):
did was legal with all parties interests that had interest
in it, with the Afghani government, with the Taliban, with
the US government, everybody involved gave TASKIT approval for Zachary
to be doing what he was doing. The smuggling implies
illegal activity, right.
Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
And this actually differs from the CNN suit to me
right because CNN said that he was operating a black
market routine and was soaking Afghany citizens, where both of
those were false because one, his job was legitimate. There
were a number of people that do his job, and
he lost work two of these others because of this report.
(01:05:47):
And as far as soaking the citizens, he didn't even
do that. He only worked through agencies or corporations to
get their people out. So for instance, if CNN had
reporters trapped, he would be the one to facilitate there.
That's what he does and CNN should know this, And
yet they still said it was a black market and
he was hitting these poor distitute citizens for thousands and
(01:06:11):
tens of thousands, and he's like, no, I didn't know.
And that's where he hired me to get their people out.
That's the way it works.
Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
And that's where Puck News comes into play, regurgitating CNN's
assertations basically accusing him to be a war profit here
going in and take extricating panicked locals and with hefty fees,
sometimes tens of thousands of dollars to escape the Taliban,
and then lost a lawsuit saying those exact fucking words.
Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
And this is what surprises me about that Puck suit
is because it's it's operated by Dylan Buyer's and a
number of others. He comes from a couple I think
might have even been at CNN for a while, but
some top flight news outlets before he started Puck on
his own about three or four years ago. But he
still has very deep contacts inside of CNN. I mean,
(01:07:02):
he comes up with stories about the inner workings of
the network a lot of times, so he should have
known this stuff well long ago. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
And this wasn't him quoting the charges that CNN lost,
you know why they lost defamation suit. This wasn't like,
you know, because CNN had saved had said these things.
This is him regurgitating it mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Yeah. And that's that's what surprising me, because those internal
documents that that Zach Young and his team found showed
the people inside CNN, the producers and the reporter and such,
talking to each other and say, we're gonna go get
this son of a bitch. We're gonna bring him down.
It's your funeral buddy, that kind of crap. They went
after him. Yeah, and that's the kind of internal dialogue
(01:07:55):
going on that usually Dylan Byers has tapped into, should
have picked up on this. So for him to just
repeat this, yeah, it's definitely faulty on his part and
going to be interesting. But these lawsuits are cropping up
more and more often, you know, Like CNN used to say,
they're so rare these days. ABC News settled with Donald
(01:08:17):
Trump and he last week just finalized their figures on
a defamation suit that was mainly on MSNBC but also THEIRS,
where they talked about a doctor supposedly performing hysterectomies on
immigrant women that didn't need them. Yeah, and the guy
was like, what do you what? What are you getting
(01:08:39):
this from? They had a solitary whistleblower that gave him
all this information, and then six months later she recanted
all of her stories and they're like, oh shit, that wasn't.
Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
He Like, it wasn't he tagged like the sterilization doctor.
Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
You know, uh what they call him? Yeah, the hysterectomy
machine or something. I mean they gave him some kind
of you know, harsh title like that, right, and repeated
it like on a number of shows. It was on
Matt how it was on Chris NBC network, headed on
THEIRS for a while too. And this is Jacob sober
Off with the reporter attached to all of it. He's like,
(01:09:13):
oh my god, how did this happen? And this is
what cracks me up though. With CNN and MSNBC. They're
always claiming, well, we've got the editorial rigor that Fox
News lacks, and that's why they always have fake news.
Going out. We're more responsible.
Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
You can't watch Fox News in Canada because the Canada
government has, you know, determined that their disinformation. They settled
one lawsuit. You guys have got them stacked up. You
got CBS facing in sixty minutes, facing the Donald Trump
lawsuit too. That's actually holding up the Redstone deal.
Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
Yep. We've talked about that a little bit, and they
the people at the top, want to settle to get
the deal to go through, and the people down below
are like, no, we're gonna fight him on this. So
that's up. The pullets Are Committee. They're facing one from
Donald Trump m And ironically enough, if that does make
it the trial, it's going to be in the very
(01:10:10):
city I am residing in right now. That's awesome, So
I might be uh might be able to even cover
that live Fingers crossed.
Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
That would be fun watching the Pulletzer Committee go on trial,
and by extension, WAPPO and the New York Times.
Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
Yeah, Legacy media.
Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
I'll I'll have to bring a hand towel with me
just to cover my drool.
Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
Yeah, Brank, some LUBRIDERM. There's gonna be a lot of
fat material.
Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
Man, you're eating a lot of rice cakes.
Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
Brad.
Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
It's it's just it's just soaking up the extra I
have to do it. I have to do it. So
this is Yeah, this has been a new development in
the last couple of years. This this wave of defamation
lawsuits coming up left and right, and they're going forward.
That's the amazing thing. So Gina Rono suing Disney doesn't
supper me at all that it's succeeding mm hmm. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
You know, it's kind of like on the other end
of the spectrum, we're always talking about rogue judges. This
is not the case. Yeah, they're looking at this going
and that is absolutely worth bringing forward. Yeah, because usually defamation,
you know, it's like a frivolous lawsuit. Well you called
(01:11:24):
me a rapist, Well you were literally charged and convicted
of rape.
Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
Years past. Yeah, the judges would look at plaintiffs all
the time, it's like, yeah, but okay, you can't where
is this And throughout that CNN lawsuit, it was completely
in the other direction. They're like, you gotta toss this out.
Your Honor's like, yeah, I got an email right here
where you said you're going after his ass. Sorry, that's
uh Rune's business right here. No, let's right there, partners,
(01:11:54):
So we're going to trial and I but that's an
indication of how bad the media landscape is that they
no longer are getting away with what they used to
because they've gotten so bad at this.
Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
Yeah, the yellow journalism has gotten so bad that even
the legal system's goming hold on guys. We cannot cover
for you anymore.
Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
Yeah, it used to be you know, well, you use
the right language, or you framed it in just the
way that you can get away with it. Now they're
they're to the point that they've behaved so poorly. The
judges are like, there's no way I can say no, yeah, yeah,
favor Yeah, I think in any case, though, Jake Tapper
(01:12:42):
came out and they asked them flat out, It's like,
so what are your ratings and how much do your makeing.
It's like, I don't pay attention to the ratings. I'm
too professional for that. And the next day they were
showing up on Fox News all the tweets, Hey, we
had a number one show last night. Our ratings were sure. Yeah,
they don't even follow their own bullshit, is what it
(01:13:02):
comes down to. It's so damn funny.
Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
Yeah, their intellectual consistency is has the memory of a goldfish.
Well you just said this last night. I don't know
what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
No, it doesn't sound like mute all. But this is
a lot of this is really it's not directly affiliated
with Trump, but this is what's driving them anymore, is
as a collective, journalists across the board are just they're operating,
not with impunity, but just that well, we have to
(01:13:37):
go get him, and we have to go get this person,
and we're going to operate. We've gotten away with it
all this time. They don't pause and just hit the
brakes and say, wait a second, should we Yeah, they're
just so convinced that they're running the show still and
they're not.
Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
You journals were so wrapped up and whether or not
if you could, you didn't stop to think if you should.
Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
The problem with your phrase right there is you use
the word think right. No, The press these days are
on pure emotion, that's all it is.
Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
They're on one upmanship. How can I write the most
salacious headline and not get fired or sued? Well we
found that wall, guys.
Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
And that's the thing, you know, like at CNN, they
brag about what they call the tread and it's basically
this three layered filter of fact checking supposing. So it
goes through an editor, it goes through goods and services,
and then it goes through legal and they're all supposed
(01:14:45):
to sign off on these stories. And the Zachary Young
report was so screwed up. I don't see how one,
let alone all three of them signed off on this
kind of reporting.
Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
And they did illegal didn't look at that and go
go for it.
Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
And actually the report was so bad because this was
on the television side. I saw paperwork from editors on
the digital side that said, no, we're not touching this story.
You don't have the facts. This is like eighty percent
speculative emotion. You don't have no could we're we can't
print this. But they still went on TV with it.
Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
I don't know how. And our viewers have the memory
of a goldfish. Nobody will remember.
Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
But I mean, you've got digital editors said, oh, this
story is screwed up, and then legals like run it, go.
Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
Send it.
Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
No wonder your nuts are in a ringer today? Yeah,
so sorry, Yeah that's what you got on the TV side.
Speaker 3 (01:15:47):
Well, we got two things. Well one of them's kind
of one of them's movie related, but it's a reboot.
We missed it during the reboot segment. We've spoken about
this was in rumors and now it looks like it's happening.
Highlander reboot. We talked about how this was, you know,
(01:16:08):
just was looking like it was gonna happen. Henry Cavill's
sold to play you know, McLoud and you know, this
looks like it's happening, and then the hiccup today, but
it's not really a hiccup. I don't know if this
is an upgrade or a downgrade where it's being moved
out of lions Gate and up to Amazon MGM. Now
(01:16:32):
Lionsgate is part of Amazon MGM. I don't know if
they're bringing this up to give it a higher billing,
or I don't know the logic behind this move, but
it's like, I mean, it's everybody's selling it like it's
a good thing. I think it's just a lateral move
to get the buzz going again.
Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
Or and I'm going to get conspirational here, maybe this
is an extension of Donald Trump's tariffs because lion Gate
technically is a Canadian company.
Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
Mm, now this is under Amazon. This is under Amazon
MGM and United Artists. United Artists is an American company,
so that tracks.
Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
So they took it over from Lion's Gate maybe and
tying into the first half of the show. This could
be filling the slot that's been vacated by tomb Raider.
Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
Everything comes full circle. So yeah, that's really the only
interesting thing about that. The rest of it is just
explaining Highlander, Like, who the fuck doesn't know what Highlander is?
Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
Yeah, it's like, you've been talking about making this thing
for four years, We get it. When's it gonna get made?
So I think the fact that it's actually under the
Amazon umbrella directly is probably a good sign because as
we know, they signed checks like it's monopoly money out there.
Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
Yes, as we previously covered about an hour and a
half ago.
Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Yeah, it's like okay, yeah, sure, Hevy Cavil, how much
do you need? And then the next question is that's
all okay, go into.
Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
You got caval on that, and then you got a
new thing come out also from from Amazon MGM. I
love this how it's not just Amazon Prime anymore, it's
Amazon MGM with Prime Video. This one I'm cautiously optimistic
on because it can either be awesome or it's going
to absolutely fucking suck. And I remember saying the exact
same thing about Rings of Power. So, uh, live action
(01:18:35):
TV series for Pacific.
Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
Rim Yeah, it was a little I mean, sounds like
a great idea, don't get me wrong, because uh, you
know it's robotic Kaiju break it.
Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
The thing that threw me though, was the designation of
live action. I thought the original with live action. No,
this is not a movie.
Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
This is a TV show.
Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
So I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
Okay, I don't know why. In this they're using the
propaganda recruitment posters to get people to you know, pilot Jaegers,
which is the giant mech in that universe, kind of.
Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
Like the uh, you know, the.
Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
Join the Mobile Infantry kind of thing in Starship Troopers.
So they're they're using the poster for it to make
it look like that it's an animated series, but it
is a live action series.
Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
Oh is that it? They had to designate off of
their one sheet?
Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
Yeah, this is the one sheet is there? Uh? Today?
Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
Yeah, it almost looks like a retro recruitment poster if
you would Yeah, that's kind of like the old older
kind of artwork. So okay, that makes a little sense
if they need to. That looks cool, but there's gonna
be people.
Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
Yeah, it's actually good artwork. It's got that kind of
like comic book dot you know, filler, you have the
big black dot on cheap newsprint kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
Yeah, it's uh, you know, the lines and everything are
pretty thick here, so it does look like graphic artists
kind of work.
Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
But no, the one she's fucking awesome on it. But yeah,
there's gonna be a live action. It's got Eric Heiser
from a Shadow and Bone and bird Box. Uh, he
was the showrunner on those and that's all that's attached
to it at this point. But he's bringing in his
uh chronology banner, which is, you know, the production company
he operates, and this is gonna be his inaugural t
(01:20:41):
TV project and his inaugural project with mg Amazon MGM.
Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
And this, uh, this could work because they, like we
just said, they love the Belch money over their Rings
of Power case in point, geez.
Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
They money like uh prat kid after too many yagerbombs.
Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
What they spend on that series just baffles me. For
for it to suck as much as it does.
Speaker 3 (01:21:10):
Just what you just spent for what they just spent
for a TV series that nothing was done on. Here's
a twenty million dollars and then there's no proof that
penn was put to paper.
Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
Yeah, and just on that note too, I think last
episode we talked about Netflix with the Electric State, I
said it was three hundred million to make that movie.
I was around three hundred and twenty million.
Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
Oh well, shit bargain. Damn.
Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
Don't get me wrong. The visuals were amazing in it.
But yeah, okay, I didn't tell you it was about
one hundred and fifteen minutes.
Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
No, that's good.
Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
About the GDP of most third world nations.
Speaker 3 (01:22:00):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
I mean it's entertaining enough you'll you'll be like, wow,
oh man, that looks cool. Wait, what the hell is
going on? Doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (01:22:11):
That's absolutely the Netflix model. For those of you knew
to the show, and we've decided the Netflix model is
get some names, blow some ship up, make it look flashy,
make it exciting. But then you it's like you just
got flashed by the men in black. You have no
fucking you know, you've seen it. That's all you know.
Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
Yeah, it used to be what they would say, like
a hit films like the water Cooler talk Netflix movies
defies that go to work the next day. And did
you watch that movie? I did? What was it about? Oh?
I had that girl in it? I saw.
Speaker 3 (01:22:53):
I always get those guys confused.
Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
There was a white car and oh, gas station blew
up and I crashed. Pretty much what we get there?
It's part for the course.
Speaker 3 (01:23:08):
And it had that sneaker pimp song in the outro credits.
That's about all I can tell you. Yeah, that's every
Netflix movie prove us wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
Okay, damn it. What's going on here? I'm trying to
get to the streaming numbers and every time I do,
it just takes me to the deformation suit. Let's see,
there we go, there you go. Had to get it
to Nielsen, all right, So we'll wrap up light.
Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
This is a light week for uh streaming a bit.
Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
Yeah. Now on the movie side, original number one is Adolescence.
Have you been hearing anything about this movie at all? Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:23:54):
You mean on the overall because that's not overall, is it?
Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:23:59):
That's a TV show.
Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
Oh I'm not original. Sorry, hit the wrong button, But
there we go. Yeah, this thing is I guess it
is a British production and it's kind of taken that
nation by storm.
Speaker 3 (01:24:11):
I want to say it's the Great Baking Bakeoff whatever
Great British Baking. I have no idea what this show's about.
But with four episodes and one point four billion minutes watched,
that's respectable. Yeah, this is Remember that video you sent
me explaining the Great British Bakeoff to me? I get it,
I do, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to
(01:24:34):
trash it.
Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
Gonna make us appreciate it some way somehow. Yeah. Now,
with adolescence, this is I almost get a sense of
this is the last gasp of woke because it's a
cautionary tale, of course, about how young white males are
influenced by social media and it leads to aggressive social behavior.
(01:25:01):
The media in Britain are all over this thing. They
love this movie, and it's gotten to the point where
they're starting to put this into schools now to teach
or indoctrinate the students about this. Understand that this is
Britain that currently is under fire for all kinds of
(01:25:25):
immigrant violence taking place, and just as this thing was
spiking and people in the media were screaming about white
youth violence. In Britain, a story broke of six immigrant
teenagers arrested for gang raping and the press would not
disclose their nationality. They just they would say six youths
(01:25:49):
or sixteens have been arrested. It's like, yeah, what are from?
What city? Where they're from Britain? Leeds, Liverpool?
Speaker 3 (01:25:56):
Where we have about the case at all?
Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
What that?
Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
No, that's just you know, the British public asking the
media any other demographic actors you got behind teens.
Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
And that they were male, okay, and that's it. And
if you ask, you get in trouble. That's the funny thing.
So I saw a clip I think was earlier this
week where a British politician came out on a talk
show like Their Morning, their version of the Today Good
Morning America, and was talking about, you know, things are
(01:26:31):
going on and the one hostess is like, now, did
you watch adolescence yet? And she's like, no, I haven't.
I don't have to because I've been studying the news.
I've been watching what's taking place, and I've seen what's
evolving around our country and where the problems are. It's like, no, no,
you have to watch I can't believe you ever watched this.
It is an important documentary that explains all these problems.
(01:26:52):
Politician looks at her and says, we got a gang
rape that just took place from immigrant youth. Yeah, but adolescence.
And she called it a documentary. It's a complete fiction.
This is trauma.
Speaker 3 (01:27:05):
Well, you know it's funny. Okay, so pose Law I
joke about the great documentary Iron Sky. I'm being satirical
pose Law. If you're not familiar with pose Law. That's
the Internet axiom that there becomes a point where parody
(01:27:27):
and activism are indistinguishable from each other. It's like, no
matter how over the top you think you are with
your parody, there is actually a level of activism that
that's real with them.
Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
This is that exactly. And that clip I mentioned though,
just personifies the British press right now. They are just
a goog over this thing. It's like, yes, we can
blame the whites now because we have proof with fiction.
Speaker 3 (01:27:59):
Okay, guys, these are the same people that thought The
It Crowd was a documentary.
Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
Only because of the accuracy and the humor.
Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
You know, Robert Williams had a joke back in his
earliest stand up days, his first one Big I think
it was evening at the Matter or something one of
the and he made a joke about getting high and
thinking Quest for Fire was a documentary.
Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
We're here now, Yeah, absent the drugs. Yes, that's the
that's the sad part. You don't have an excuse, all right,
Moving on for originals here, The Residents is number two.
This is a bit of a surprise that weever Reacher
third season has come out. It's only in third position.
Speaker 3 (01:28:47):
Yeah, but that was two episodes in. But the other
thing is that it does have twenty three episodes. Like
we talk about often is that you'll get when a
new episode drops, you'll get a lot of churn on
the previous seasons where people like catching up. And with
twenty three episodes, that means they're three or four episodes
into their third season, coming in third behind first Run.
(01:29:09):
You know, I'm gonna blame the UK for Adolescence that
that Daytime Bobblehead, she's personally responsible for those four episodes
of adolescence getting one point four billion minutes viewed.
Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
Yeah, Well, the thing is with I'm surprised by Reacher
because when season two came out, there was advanced hype,
and there was hype while it was on. Everybody was
talking about it. I've not heard the same reaction here
with season three.
Speaker 3 (01:29:34):
I think we're done with the Reacher. It's just uh,
because I haven't heard anybody really say, oh my god,
you've got to see it on you know. I mean
the circles we move in are the circles of the
people who are gonna say, oh my god, did you
see reach your season three. I haven't seen any of Buzzy.
Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
And I did hear that on season two. That's the
funny part, yeah, or the telling part. Hey, guess what.
Apple Plus has gotten into the top ten. Severn is
apparently their big show.
Speaker 3 (01:30:01):
One person tells me, I gotta watch Severance. I'm gonna
fucking kill somebody.
Speaker 2 (01:30:06):
On that very topic. Huh. People are talking about Severns
like mad It's only in the fourth position because it's
on Apple Plus, and people.
Speaker 3 (01:30:14):
Are like, nobody else to see that.
Speaker 2 (01:30:15):
Where is it? Apple Plus? The hell is that? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:30:19):
It's kind of Apple Street and Service ten years ago. Really, Huh?
Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
It comes through with your phone, dude, you got a phone, right, so, yeah,
you can watch it on your phone. Didn't didn't even
know that? Wow, that's a h.
Speaker 3 (01:30:34):
And then uh, I need you have to tell people things.
Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
Yeah, and you would think you got it, you know,
kind of a captive audience right there in the palm
of their hand. How about pimpot a little bit? You know,
we open up your email? Hey seven season threw is
just started, by the way, here's your email. No, they
don't do that for some reason.
Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:30:54):
Taylor Sheridan has got another hit on his hand in
nineteen twenty three second season that comes in at five.
Temptation Island? Are we really still doing?
Speaker 3 (01:31:05):
Are still really do it? Really doing? Reality TV?
Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
Okay, a wheel of time.
Speaker 3 (01:31:11):
This is surprising because the first season was absolutely ship
all over it was.
Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
But huh yeah the Pit on Max this is quite
a diverse top ten for a change. We don't usually
see this kind of mix.
Speaker 3 (01:31:28):
Yeah, you really don't. I mean this is all over
the board. I think the one got on here for
a change is Hulu.
Speaker 2 (01:31:35):
And the Pit is It's got some good advance where
a lot of people like it. It's a new medical drama.
Noah Wyley's in the lead there. Yeah, that's how are
in Pittsburgh. Apparently it's supposedly realistic. I've heard good things.
Then we got Invincible and running points over on the
movie side. This one, I gotta I gotta say, this
(01:31:59):
makes me happy. Mowana two on Disney Plus is beating
out Wicked on Peacock.
Speaker 3 (01:32:07):
Yes, bye, a pretty good margin too. You got Moana
at one point one billion minutes watched and Wicked under
a billion.
Speaker 2 (01:32:19):
Yep, just at nine hundred million, so it's pretty uh substantial.
Then you got Electric State as we just talked about
number three, uh, Den of Thieves.
Speaker 3 (01:32:30):
Two, Pantera, that's I mean, these are all just chopping
at the heels of Wicked too. So it's not like
you go, oh hey, now we can's almost got a
billion minutes. Well here's these other things that almost have
a billion minutes.
Speaker 2 (01:32:43):
Just good to see Gerard Butler in the top five.
Speaker 3 (01:32:45):
Sure, when's your Ard Butler day?
Speaker 2 (01:32:50):
Yeah, we got to do that again. It's usually in
August at some point, so yeah, yeah, we can do Pantera.
How about that Craven the Hunter really five? Come on,
people were making fun of this one, but okay, yeah,
then they got.
Speaker 3 (01:33:04):
It's got that buzz though it's so bad you've got
to see it.
Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
That might be what it is. Yeah, it's probably. It's
on Netflix, and I heard people talking about it. What
were they saying, Well, it wasn't good, but they're total
talking about it, so I'm gonna get it.
Speaker 3 (01:33:17):
Okay, So this is the next two. This is one
of those things where it's like you bought the wrong movie.
It's gotta be you got number six, you got the
Twister Caught in Storm, and number seven you've got Twisters.
It's not like everybody's really hot on seeing tornado movies.
So I think that they all thought that Twister Caught
in the Storm was Twisters. And because Twister Cotton Storm
(01:33:41):
is on Netflix and Twisters is on Peacock, so and
no like Apple, plus, nobody fucking watches Peacock. So I
think this is a mistaken identity thing because it's not
even close. You have a disaster movie up against a
big budget disaster movie, and the low budget one is
(01:34:02):
kicking its ass.
Speaker 2 (01:34:04):
Yeah, that's that doesn't really make sense, does it. It's uh,
it's and it might even be, Well it can't because
this is Nielsen. I was gonna say, well, might be
in case of Netflix plaining the game was like, oh,
they turned it on, realized it was the wrong movie.
Stop they watched it.
Speaker 3 (01:34:21):
This is Nielsen, so they can't do that.
Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
This isn't Uh, that's why they do minutes.
Speaker 3 (01:34:26):
By the way, So there you go, talk about water
cooler talk. Hey man, did you see the Twister sequel?
Speaker 2 (01:34:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:34:33):
It was terrible.
Speaker 2 (01:34:34):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (01:34:34):
It was fantastic Caught in the Storm. No, the sequel
was called Twisters. Oh that's not what I watched.
Speaker 2 (01:34:43):
Yeah, huh. And then the you know, whoever watched the
one movie heard it from the other person, so they
both went home and watched the other movie as a result. Yeah,
what the hell were they talking about? Let's pull up
and see a self fulfilling failure. How about that number eight?
(01:35:04):
I got a bit of a mover review here. It's Trap. Okay, wait,
I mean there's been a Josh Hart didciting. This is
the latest from m Night Jamalan. Okay, and let me
just tell you not much of a twist. Also, not
much of a movie. It's about a guy who's a
(01:35:26):
serial killer that goes to take his daughter to a
teen concert. The place is swarming with cops and swat
and everything else because they're trapping the serial killer inside
of an arena that they know he's attending somehow. I'm
watching this with the wife. She wanted to see it.
(01:35:48):
I'm about forty minutes into this, and so much of
the damn movie was about the girl on stage singing,
just featuring her. The song sucked. They were just nonsensical.
And I'm looking at her. She's got long black hair,
a bit of brown skin to her, and I'm like,
you know what garn bucking teed? This is m Night
(01:36:09):
Shyamalan's daughter on stage. I was just thinking too, and
the wife's look at me. He's like, what now come?
It's like, why the girl's featured? She sucks? You ever
heard of these songs? You ever heard of this? No?
So I look it up. Shirt up. Selika Shyamalan plays
Lady Raven.
Speaker 3 (01:36:26):
Of course she does. Yeah. See, here's the thing is,
I am absolutely convinced M. Night Shaman was I don't
want to say a one hit wonder, but he peaked
early like Spike Lee. Spike Lee had some great movies
at the beginning, and now they just won't fucking go away.
It's doing research for the show I Spike Lee's got
(01:36:47):
another fucking movie out. I thought he was dead. I
literally thought he I haven't heard anyway?
Speaker 2 (01:36:55):
Is it about the New York Knicks? Yeah, I don't know.
Uh right, And just continuing, we've got Despicable Me four
at number nine, and Anura, the Oscar winner.
Speaker 3 (01:37:09):
Has cracked. Who finally cracked the top ten on one
of the lists.
Speaker 2 (01:37:17):
Uh, Nora, Okay, that's what. That's what the Oscar gets
you a couple of hundred million minutes viewed that you.
Speaker 3 (01:37:24):
Want to go fired because that's an interesting chart.
Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
Just doesn't just doesn't pay to be an Oscar winner
anymore because the oscars suck, as we covered all right,
So overall, what was number one? Adolescens took it all.
Speaker 3 (01:37:39):
Anyway, you got to go over to you gotta go
to a fire because.
Speaker 2 (01:37:43):
That's just in chart. Oh what did I miss? Got
Graves Anatomy at number one?
Speaker 3 (01:37:51):
Really three way tie Gray's Anatomy, Blue and White Lotus
all within oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
Each about two million between them five million something like that.
Speaker 3 (01:38:04):
Yeah, barely.
Speaker 2 (01:38:05):
Yeah, everybody talks about White Lotus and I've anything I've
heard about it, Like when I said, well, what's it
about and they tell me it's like, no way in
hell I'm watching that nice and even the positive reviews,
I'm like, what, like, oh, it's a bunch of white
privileged women at a resort and they're all backstabbing.
Speaker 3 (01:38:27):
It's just kind of no, no, no, no, I'm sorry.
A Real housewives.
Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
Yeah, it's like, so it's it's Real housewives, but they're
all insufferable. Oh yeah, they all suck and they run
and this is a rave review. Hmm, okay about that.
Speaker 3 (01:38:46):
Okay, back to overall. I just wanted you to see
that because I thought I'm that interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:38:49):
Yeah. I didn't even see those numbers. Okay, how about that,
But those where all the you know, kind of the
retread stuff. The rookie is on there. That kind of
surprised me a little bit. That's it, Hulu. I mean
it's uh, you know, Nathan philly In. You can't go
wrong with him, of course.
Speaker 3 (01:39:03):
But yeah, that show just won't go away, and I'm
okay with that.
Speaker 2 (01:39:07):
Here's something unusual. The twelve year old is all about it,
like the rookie. Yeah, he comes over to the house
and he'll be like, oh, these guys, I'm gonna stay
over next week. We should watch it.
Speaker 3 (01:39:21):
I'm telling you, Nathan Fillion has universal appeal to every race, gender.
Speaker 2 (01:39:26):
And age. Yeah, I mean, it's not a bad show.
It's just kind of formulaaric. It's cops in uniform and
la kind of stuff. It's yeah, all right, I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:39:35):
I'm procedural, I mean, but still Italian. He just everybody,
you know, they they either want him or want to
be him, or want to grow up to be like him.
Speaker 2 (01:39:48):
Right, Yeah, I can't go on. I mean I still
watch Castle. I still enjoy that show.
Speaker 3 (01:39:52):
I watched at least times a year.
Speaker 2 (01:39:56):
Well you kind of have to though.
Speaker 3 (01:39:58):
One season, I think.
Speaker 2 (01:39:59):
They're the law. Yeah, it has to be. Oh, we
gotta put the screws the Fox again. So let's I'm
gonna go watch it. That's it, all right. So overall
the Britain drama I'm sorry, documentary takes takes it all
with adolescence. Then the Residents, ma Wanatu, Reacher, Gray's Anatomy,
(01:40:20):
Bluey of course got to have to White Lotus family guy,
Wicked in Severns. I thought Severns would have beat Wicked.
Imagine my surprise.
Speaker 3 (01:40:30):
Well it's close, but I mean that's where you're looking
at a movie versus a TV show.
Speaker 2 (01:40:34):
Right right. Well, that's why I think I probably would
have picked Severance. If I had to, I was gonna
lay chalk on it. I would have gone that way
and lost money, how about it? That's all right?
Speaker 3 (01:40:44):
Interesting, I wouldn't have known without this chart right here,
Rayi's Anatomy four hundred and forty two episodes. Family Guy
Shut four hundred and forty one episodes.
Speaker 2 (01:40:55):
No. Wow, that's that's something right there. That is something,
And how amazing is it? Family Guy is still enduring
and the Simpsons have just kind of dropped off the radar.
Speaker 3 (01:41:12):
Entirely because the Family Guy knew when to stop.
Speaker 2 (01:41:19):
Well, also, the Family Guy didn't turn woke.
Speaker 3 (01:41:23):
That helps you. I mean, for Seth McFarlane being woke,
he takes he does the exact opposite because he knows
the exact opposite is funny. He is personally woke, but
he knows what funny is.
Speaker 2 (01:41:43):
Sure, No, he's take anyway. He's woke in the private life,
but he's not politically correct professionally, so it's.
Speaker 3 (01:41:51):
Uh, south Park the other way around. Yeah, well, yeah,
you can't. I don't want to make that kind of money.
Speaker 2 (01:42:03):
Yes, eh, Jaez, Well, that's gonna do it for this one.
I think we uh tapped out on our content here
as usual, spread all the jam and served it up,
so we're good to go. So why don't you tell
everybody already where people can find more of you?
Speaker 3 (01:42:20):
Well, thanks for asking, Brad. You can find me as
Ordnance Packard on x, Twitter, whatever you want to call it,
at least until my rock account takes it over, because
I think my rock account achieved setians last night. I
talked about that on Rick and Alorady. You can find
me Saturday on Juxtaposition with Rick as we do a
makeup show. You can find me next week on Manorama,
(01:42:40):
on Tuesday nights on Rank or Steve's Rumble channel YouTube
right here on X and Klorin Radio dot com, and
Wednesday night you can find me on Rick and Orday.
Speaker 2 (01:42:49):
How about you?
Speaker 3 (01:42:49):
Where can people find your magnificence?
Speaker 2 (01:42:54):
Well, I've got a daily media column at town Hall
dot com. It's called Rift from the Headlines, and I
cover a lot of the culture and entertainment stuff over
at Red State on the front page there where I've
also got twice weekly podcast called Liable Sources and you
canna hear more of me on this network. Next Thursday,
I'll be here with Paul Young from Screen Rant. He
(01:43:15):
and I will go through the dark side of Hollywood
and bad movies on disasters into making and every Tuesday
evening I'm here with the ever Effor Best and Aggie
Reekin As we give you all the leisure and relaxation
topics to take your mind off of this crazy world
of ours. Through cocktails and sports, art, science, you name it,
(01:43:35):
we come up with it to try to bring us
smile to your face. And if you need more of
me than that, let's face it, you do if you
head over to Jitter, I'm at Martini Shark. All right,
it was a good one we had.
Speaker 3 (01:43:49):
I gotta give you props, you and Paul. I mean,
every week you guys got me rolling. The last week
I was fucking dying on disaster. Really now, Yeah, that
was good. That was good commentary one hurt.
Speaker 2 (01:44:00):
I gotta be honest, Well.
Speaker 3 (01:44:01):
I imagine I can feel your pain. It's like when
Jeff does his uh rings a power recap, you can
you can feel the emotional trauma in every word dropping
out of his mouth, so that I felt I felt
that from you and Paul and.
Speaker 2 (01:44:15):
Yeah, I mean we love the bad movies. We just
don't love all of them. It's kind of the way
that works out. So sometimes they're clunkers, and uh, you know,
we take it on the chin for everybody and we
steer them our way as a result. But we have
our fun doing it, that's for damn sure.
Speaker 3 (01:44:31):
If you can't find a way to be behind to
a bad movie, then you know it's bad because you
got all the chosh key.
Speaker 2 (01:44:37):
Yeah it was uh, you know, you kind of want
to go into it and say he's like, like, what's no, No,
what are you doing? Eli, Sometimes it does happen. Well,
we are We're going to do our homework and see
if we can match the excellence of this episode. In
two weeks. There has already night. Come back here and
(01:45:00):
give you more entertainment on the culture shift.
Speaker 3 (01:45:04):
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And how it is everybody doing in k l r
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How's everybody doing? I'm Brad Slager and we are getting
ready to take you on a foray into all of
the vital entertainment information. But not doing this by myself
(01:20):
because every fortnight I am joined on the Hollywood Walk
of Fame with Orty Packer at America's most laser focused
and digitized Amish individual. How's everything going already?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
You know it's beautiful, spring is sprung. We kind of
toggle between seventies and eighties out here, a little bit
of rain, trafficking weather on the threes here on Kellerindradio
dot com. How about you, Brad? What's going on out
in America's wang?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
We're just we got too much going on, as anybody
can expect, with all of the all of the mayhem
going on politically, socially, in this country. But we're here
to distract from such, so hopefully we can bring the
entertainment to the people that want their entertainment to distract
from the mayhem.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yes, that's that's what we do. We don't talk about
politics directly, but as Andrew Breitbart said, politics is down
stream from cultures. So if we talk about it now,
expected in the news two weeks later politically somehow whatever anyway, Hi, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
All uh, it's all interconnected anymore. These days, there's always
some kind of intertwining between the political side and the
entertainment side. Even if the entertainment side can't shut up
about certain things. It just seems to be the course too.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
But that's it won't work to it. I'm loving this.
Another Disney movie is gonna go down in flames because
their actors can't shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, it's almost as if they don't listen to our podcast.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
They really should. Sometimes they act like they do and
then they turn around and do ship like that.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
It's it is amazing, It is amazing. But on that topic,
we can I think we can maybe this week put
snow White to bed, can we not? So?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, that I may we never have to speak of
it again.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I just I enjoyed this headline though, where you came
up with this story where they said snow White has
crossed a milestone as if an accomplishment has been reached, Yes, during.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Its fourth weekend. This is huge. This is another milestone
for snow White, and milestone being is that they are
now the fourth movie in twenty twenty five to pass
the eighty million domestic mark in their fourth week I
mean live action film.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Because I see this headline and my first my first
reaction is what intern at Disney wrote this headline? Right?
Because what hearin?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
And Disney was forced to write this headline as penance
for allowing Green Eminems to sneak into.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
So Bob by your's secretary or such must have come
in with DCAF coffee one morning or something. That's it.
You have to put out the pr this week. No,
don't make me do that.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I'm sorry. This does not look like Mickey ears in
my latte.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeesh. Well here if you haven't followed our show, this
is why this particular announcement is so hilarious. I don't
see it as often anymore, but it used to be
when a movie really underperformed on its opening weekend. You
would see advertisements on Monday or Tuesday where they would
(04:53):
proclaim it to be the number one family movie of
America or the number one comedy in America, even though
the movie we came in third place at the box office.
You know, they try to come up with some qualifiers
so they can still justify putting number one on screen.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
It's like this happened to be the highest grossing Disney
live action remake of of a nearly one hundred year
old animated classic released in the month of April. Mark
It's like the uh, the dollar is the lead.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
It's like my favorite scene from the movie mister Baseball,
you can't send me down. I was tied for third
a month, like tended third Basement in the month of
August for triples in the late innings. You know, it's
that kind of crap and.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Just absolutely reaching, grasping at all the straws to pull,
to snatch, you know, to find some victory, some win.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
There must be a statistic out there we can hang
our hat on. So here's why this one is so
particularly hilarious. After one month in theaters, Snow White has
finally crested the dollar figure that they initially anticipated for
opening weekend right because these projections were, Oh, this could
(06:07):
this could make seventy five to eighty million. They were
saying this in like late January, and then reality said it.
As we've covered here, no you're you're not.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
No, you knew they knew it was going to fail
when they released it in March, because, as we've talked about,
March is where they dump movies because there's the post
post awards show glut where there's nothing in the theaters
because everybody is just fucking tired. It's too far away
from the next Oscar season, it's nowhere near the summer point.
(06:39):
It's just where I give it a shot, and it
still took a month when there's nothing against.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
It, right, March is it's pretty much that loone, that
dead spot in the schedule between the Oscars and just
before the summer blockbuster season kicks in. So these are
the movie they hope they'll find an audience. They'll they'll
beg that anybody can get out there. You know, they're
hungry for something new, so that'll do it.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Or my analogy for March is it's the bye week
you can't actually lose. They can't win, but they can't lose.
And still, well, Bill.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
We have cataloged the failures of this movie, We've catalogued
why it failed, what has led to this apocalyptic result,
and it has all pretty much rested on the mouth
of their star Rachel Zegler. Well, one would think lessons
to be learned, you know, like maybe we shouldn't do this. Well,
(07:51):
we're here to tell you lessons we're not learned.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
So this summer the memo did not go out prior
to this article being written.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And the question is just how how in the hell
has nobody picked up on this so summertime release. For Disney,
they're pending their hopes on reinvigorating their Marvel franchises, which
have really fallen into disfavor ever since Endgame. They just
(08:21):
really have had a hard time striking that same vein
of gold. Yeah, that was a high water mark, with
maybe the exception of Deadpool, of course, but Deadpool in
and of itself is an exception on every conceivable level.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
So yeah, right, it's it's a Disney r It's yeah,
it's I think, while being part of it, exists independent.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, Deadpool basically exists in order to be contrary to
the entire Marvel universe as the character has been drawn
and written. So that's that's all.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Breaking tongue in cheek, exactly designed doing exactly what it
is designed to do exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
So yeah, that is going you have to kind of
screw up, you have to try to make Deadpool net work.
That's the way that works out. So which was for that,
But they want to get Marvel back on track, and
their hopes have been pinned on the Fantastic Four. Now
this is a franchise with a pass that we could
(09:21):
conservatively charitably called checkered. They had a lot of success
with this one.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
No, I mean you had the you know, the two
thousand and five one. It did okay, it was funny,
it was kind of time. I mean, it wasn't great,
but that was also before the age of superhero films,
so it was kind of like, you know, it was
like the MCU shit, so it was kind of it
can stand on its own. Its sequel was less than good,
(09:50):
but for what it was, I mean, I think they
in the original one, they put together a decent cast
and they had fun and it was kind of a
fun rop. So Okay, you know, it wasn't great. It
wasn't you know, it wasn't a fucking Iron Man, but
it was all right.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, it's probably it could probably be labeled as.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Watchable, but yeah, I'd rewatch.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
One of the problems with that film, however, is you
have not one but two lengthy segments of your superheroes
sitting around not doing something.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Right, basically all having a new life crisis.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
That's that's an interesting decision. So when they first get
blasted by the you know, starlight plasma storm that transforms
them all, the first thing they do is they all
go into quarantine and they have to sit around the
headquarters and do stuff. And then later they build a
(10:47):
machine that's going to change them all up, so they
have to reconvene there and hang out for a while
to find out if this word I mean you have
a superhero movie where basically everybody is on spring break.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Wow, there, Adam Web, there's no way to go.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
But yeah, the sequel, like you said, was not so good,
and then they tried to reboot the franchise with director
Josh Trank on a release that was absolutely god awful.
I'm a single person.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
That likes that movie, much like the sequel to Independence Day.
I have emotionally repressed having watched that movie. Go through therapy.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yeah, and now, I mean you want to talk about
storyline decisions they have. The individual who turns into doctor
Doom is created when they go into another dimension. They
all come out, but do wants to stay in that
dimension and they're like, no, no, you have to come
back with us, which this is off Doom and turns
him into a villain. Just send his ass right back
(11:52):
to the realm and you're fine.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
But oh shit, because the problem here what he ain't happy.
Let's send him back.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
But then we wouldn't have a movie. You would have
a fifteen minute interesting have a movie anyway, So yeah,
we've got this Fantastic four on the horizon.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
This summer, I was still everything heard looks fucking great.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Bah.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
I'm sorry, Hello, did we lose Brad. He's still behind
the scenes, but I think we lost them. Yep, Okay,
all right, so you're ready to step in, Jeff, Hold
on a second.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
We're dealing with is boot and we've talked about this before,
have we not, Brad?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
We lost you for a bit live radio. So if
you can see me right now, I'm doing the Michigan
j frog ans. Let me see all right, let me
(13:07):
tell Brady's in and out. Okay, yeah, you did, all right,
So anyway you're ready to hop in, Jeff, I think so.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Right.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
So flash forward to twenty five summer release Fantastic Four.
All the stills and everything look fucking fantastic. You know
it's gonna be set in the sixties. They're you know,
their costumes look kind of traditional to your end. You
gotta remember the Fantastic Four is what launched Marvel, you know,
this is what really good entire thing off of. So
(13:44):
now we have this big right up and Entertainment weekly
and the actors can't shut up.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
It's kind of surprising that they don't learn.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Yeah, yeah, okay, So let's go with Okay, first of all,
the uh the British actress Vanessa Kirby, who's playing Sue Storm.
Her recent comments on the topic were, if you played
in exact nineteen sixties Sue today everyone thinks she was
(14:21):
a bit of a doormat. So figuring out how to
capture the essence of what you represented to each generation
where the gender politics were different and embody that today
was one of the greatest joys. You've always been really interested.
I've always been really interested in the mess of femininity
and how you can be both and how you can
be all the things. Honey, your movie is set in
(14:44):
the sixties.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Right, Yeah, that was a curious one, was it not
she doesn't want sixty sensibilities in a movie set in
the sixties. Yeah, so, okay, this is exactly what took
place with snow White, the star of the show, dumping
(15:08):
on the source material.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
It's like they did a template. And you know, one
of the things I didn't see it in this article,
but the actor who's playing the Torch, he made a
comment of how he was a misogynistic jackass and kind
of going to be changing up the character. The reason
why he was the Torch was because he was kind
of a playboy, a kind of a you know, not
(15:32):
really misogynistic, but he was. Yeah, he was a womanizer.
But uh, that's his characters defining characteristic.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah, that was kind of the thing during the comic books.
I mean, Johnny Storm was a player. That was his characteristic.
But we have we have to modernize.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
It's not like, okay, well you know that was written
in the sixties. It's different today. They just did that
in two thousand and five. They did it again in
twenty fifteen. Don't try to throw your modern sensibilities into it.
We're only ten years removed from when that was perfectly
acceptable and a character tree.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
They also are going with a female Silver Surfer.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Great now, okay, in fairness, in that role, it really
doesn't matter. But still I have to ask.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Why though, Yeah they I mean, I know there's been
incarnations in the past of the Silver Surfer taking feminine
qualities or such, but pretty much from the inception which
this would be given they're making this an origin film,
it was a dude, I'm sorry, Yeah, just why are
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we going this way? Like you couldn't find any male
actors to play the role. And it's not a matter
of race or anything, because the character is literally top
to bottom silver, But we're gonna go with the female. Okay.
So to start, we've got Sue Storm, who doesn't like
her character. We've got a female Silver Server, and we
have Johnny Storm becoming a beta male.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Yeah. Yes, he's going from what are we doing? He's
going from womanizer to womanists. Yeah, this is much like
how they sent in a social media guru to protect
that fucking hobgoblin from herself. Too late, too late. Copies
(17:47):
of this Entertainment Weekly out on the shelf right now,
can't you can't unfunck that now.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I was trying to be charitable about this because obviously
this was an article very long in the world, because
they sent there writer out to England to go to
Pinewood Studios hang out on the set. You know, this
is very well could have been written eight months, a
year ago or such.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
But this is that a blurb. This is a long run.
I mean it's this is a cover article I have.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Each actor is given a lot of time to talk
about their craft and their journey in the character of
that kind of crap. And I only say all this
because I think we've talked on the show before how
this looked like a good movie. I was anticipating this.
I was excited to go see this one.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
I think about a show about a month ago I
was actually talking about I'm actually excited. This looks good.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah. I think the most harsh thing we had talked
about was making fun of one of the posters that
was clearly made from artificial intelligence, but otherwise We're like, yeah,
this is gonna be cool. And now the cast has
started opening up their traps and not so much anymore.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Yeah, and I think that common out the h the
AI artwork was just because we happened to be talking.
It was, you know, a tangent of the AI of
an AI story we were doing.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah, we're you know, we've been covering how you know,
the all the strikes were centered on artificial intelligence and
not letting that come into Hollywood, And yet it seems
like every single episode we have another example of it.
But yesh, and you know, I want to cut them
slack and say, oh, you know, this is so far
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back that maybe they didn't have all these preemptive measures
in place yet. But Rachel Zegler's been opening her taco
hole for quite a few years already. I mean, her
first comments about snow White. We're in twenty twenty two.
I want to say, people were like, wait, what, how
did the memo not get to the set of Fantastic four.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
I I think, Okay, here's my honest say that the
uh the C suites at Disney Eiger and you know,
down on top of you know, Figie and the rest.
I think with Zegler, they were pretty much yes, Queen
(20:09):
until it wasn't yeah, which about last year sometime you
could see a sea change in the tone of America
where this shit no longer flew and it was just
like among the right, I mean it was among everybody
(20:31):
had just collectively decided cut the fuck up.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Yeah, Aggie and I have talked about this on our
Cocktail Lounge show, where pretty much I think it was
the debate and the assassination attempt that really saw a
title shift in attitude in this country where people were like,
you know what, we ain't putting up with this anymore,
and tolerance for this nonsense evaporated almost instantly at that point. So, yes,
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Ziggler's out there still doing her I'm a Queen rendition
on interviews. It's like, you know what we're really doing
these days, and people like, shut up, we're not going
to your movie now, and.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
She'd probably I mean most people anyway. But then when
she's like, I'm gonna shoo hover my project. Oh by
the way, free Palestine.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah, and that, and then after the election she was
telling Trump voters that they don't she doesn't want them
to have any peace in their lives going forward. It's like, well,
you just literally cut your entire audience in half.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Well, I hate to break your I hate to break
it to your sweetheart, but the peace in my life
is not seeing your movie. That brings me peace.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
So you had to see the Running of the Wall
at some point at Disney's Like, why wouldn't they be?
Like I said when I wrote about this, I've got
a contact of mine who is a producer in Hollywood,
and he has told me that they are now inserting
language in their initial contracts to this effect that if
you say something that's going to damage us, it's going
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to cost you. You're going to lose out on bonuses
or secondary residuals, or in some fashion, you're going to
be held responsible if you say something that affects the
prospects of the product.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Yeah, because I mean, you're not just hurting yourself, you're
hurting everybody who's working on the film because you can't
shut the fuck up right.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
And he says this is becoming prevalent. I know because
I said to him, I said, well, this is something
that should be widespread. He's like, oh, no, it is happening.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Yeah, it's a boiler plate contract. Now now it's like,
oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
By the way, if you say something, you're responsible for
what you said. I'm very curious how this is floating
with the with the agents and other lawyers out there.
That's gotta be fun negotiations. So okay, you want the role.
Here's the thing. We're in charge of your social media.
Now what you could just get a sense of the
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freak out that could take place around them.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
You know, that's going to kind of separate the week
from the chaff though, because you know, prior to current era,
the only time actors really got in trouble was when they,
you know, knock somebody up, or went on a long
rant about drunken rant about Jews, or a drunken rant
eating their burger, telling them what a pig their daughter was.
(23:25):
So you know, it's pretty far and few between. Now
it's like every week.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Well, what I find interesting is machine. I think I'll
say it was probably pre COVID at least, it used
to be that cancel culture was seeking out ways of
going after people. So if you said something that was
deemed to be insensitive in some fashion, you know, the
(23:53):
woke crowd would try to hold you accountable. Yeah, And
like if you said I think all lives matter or
I don't see color something as neutral as that would
get you in trouble with them, right, and they would
try to lodge boycotts and crap. This is a complete
one eighty when we talk about the shift that's taking
place in this country. It's trying to push that woke
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agenda that people are reacting to and say, well, we're
done with you. And it's not you know, we're going
to cancel you or we're gonna ruin your career. It's
just like, well, we're not doing your product. I'm not
gonna spend my money on your nonsense. Right, that's an
effective way of canceling. I mean Ziegler is, she's got
to be toxic right now as far as casting agents go.
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I I have.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
A feeling I'm gonna see her at a Starbucksh're behind
a circle k and not too long from now. It's
very likely because she made a fuck ton of money,
whether you know, Snowhite did well or not, and she's
still sitting on West Side Sorry, which wasn't good either.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Well. I wrote about this over at town Hall. I
did a rundown of her filmography. There's only one of
her six movies that could be possibly deemed a hit,
and that would be the cat Mius Everdeen extension. You know,
the part of a franchise. It wasn't really her. Anything
else where she was featured has bombed, not just failed bombed.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
See. Okay, So while I was uh, I saw something
about her on YouTube the other day and it was
just a short, but it was kind of what I
found the gist of it was was okay. So there
was this event when Jenna Ortega was trying to get
Zegor's attention, and Zegor just kind of gave the peasant thing,
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even though Ortega has been doing this a lot longer,
with you know, increasing paying her dues, and she just
got kind of brushed off. Who still has a career,
who was still acting.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, it's uh, it's it's hilarious because then you know,
she shot the fame, let's say, because a West Side Story.
Disney took a complete bath on that film. Yeah, absolutely,
I mean it was you know, Oscar nominated. No, it's
Spielberg and oh look at all this woke nonsense that
was in it, and it's so fabulous and Oscar's this
and it made seventy five million. It probably lost one
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hundred mil for.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
The studio and they can't even use the Oh it's
a musical. It didn't do well because Hamilton only made
a billion fucking dollars.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yes, and it is only you know, going on from there.
She was in the fiasco that was Shazam, the sequel
that knew, but he went to go see. She was
in something she was in on December y two. K
It was called like a retro horror movie.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
H never heard of it.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Total run, it made six million dollars.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
And Kal just said in the chat to she has
no upcoming projects and the only thing she's doing as
a US a play in England that she was signed
for before the snow White catastrophe.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Yeah, she's doing Romeo and Juliet I believe on stage
right now. Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Why so I'm gonna lynch her in London?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Well, you know she was you don't go into.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
The Bard's house and oh, I really Juliette was just
she's just such, you know, she's I can just see
her putting her bullshit woke spin on Juliet.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
And I would love to see that, wouldn't you how
will Well Shakespeare is like really old and outdated and
doesn't really speak to women today. So I'm gonna take
Juliet and make her into like a self appointed woman
of power.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
And oh my god, that Romeo guy, he's just such
a stalker. He doesn't even need to be in it.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
It's like, you know, sexism, right, weird? Uh huh, don't
need that.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yeah, please please do that, Rachel.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
I would just love to see this.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
This script gives me the X. I want to do
something better. Please, for the love of God, do that.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
But yeah, this is this is a scenario where I
don't think her career is looking too good. It's not
even rooting for it. I'm just looking at the numbers.
That's where we're at. We did talk about I believe
how this performance of snoweight killed off the live action
remake of Tangled, did we not? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Yeah, yeah, uh. They've pumped the brakes on that because,
of course, it's the fact that it's a live action remake,
not the fact that your toshik as Fox Star absolutely
torpedoed your movie for a year before it had a chance.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
To come out. Let's let's blame other productions on that.
But I only bring it up as a segue here,
Latin Nice, the uh tomb Raider live action series appears
to be dead. The amazing part here, they've been working
(29:06):
on this for about half a dozen years. Didn't even
know about it.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Yeah, six years and tens of millions of dollars being
spent and I didn't know about it. I actually think
we talked about it when this is one of those
early Amazon acquisition of MGM stories franchises they would have
access to, and it was kind of like in prospect
at the time. This was early on, This was like
pre COVID, and we were talking about it. But yes,
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they attached box Office Gold Phoebe waller Bridge to this project.
You may remember her from such films as the Last
Indiana Jones movieh And they got Sophie Turner to play
lower Croft in it, which I've played the moded nude
(30:00):
Raider version of tomb Raider. Well, Sophie Turner is nice,
does not have Lara Croft's assets. I'm just kidding to
put it out that. I'm saying it now.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
No, No, that's mine. You gotta you gotta take a stand,
You gotta you gotta be bold about these things.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
I get it, British, right head. I totally get where
they were going with it. But uh yeah, well, and
I liked I liked in this. I liked in this
piece where they refer to Sophie Turner as uh, you know,
from the Phoenix, not because she didn't do seven seasons
of Game of Thrones and that's the only reason anybody
knows her name talk about the movie.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Nobody remembers exactly. That's the part that's amusing. And uh,
as I recalled, Dark Phoenix was not exactly one that
lit up the theater screens either. It was not. So yeah,
that does say a lot, does it not. I didn't
even didn't even recognize that Asthmako. But you when you
(30:58):
don't want to mention Game of Thrones or sorry Lord Rings,
I mean, it's just what you're in, this sprawling epic.
You don't want to No, no, we don't. Let's walk
away from.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
That because as long as we're talking about dead things,
let's put it in with Dark Phoenix.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
And uh.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Yeah, but I mean this is what's amazing. This is okay,
So this whole thing is being pinned by h Phoebe
waller Bridge, and she's been working on it for years,
earning twenty million dollars a year with a golden handcuff
steel since twenty nineteen year.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I I kind of want to give them credit for
doing this because, you know, as opposed to Batgirl, where
they completed production on film.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
And shelved it and under budget too.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Uh, this would be more a case of cutting your
losses ahead of time.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
So, okay, they're down with snow White. Shoot, here's the
here's the thing. This is where the scam is perfect.
There is no noticeable work that has been done on
this project in development in six years at a cost
of taking her salary alone one hundred and twenty million dollars.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah, I mean, how how do you do that? Unless
you're Amazon and you just have a shit ton of
money where you could even launch five broads into space
on a rocket dong because you have the money to
do So that's about it.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Well, the vegas is that this is the striding Amazon
had an idea to bring back the whole franchise. They're
gonna start with the TV show, movies, video games. It
was all because a lot of people don't know Amazon
has their own You know, like Unity Engine or Unreal Engine.
They have their own gaming engine platform too. And yeah,
so this was going to be a holistic approach to
(32:54):
the revamp of tomb Raider.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yeah. Yeah, then and this kills everything. I mean, the
fact that they didn't do this series means all of
the production going forward is now as they say production.
Hell yes, everything is compromised as a result. And so
you dropped one hundred million dollars to own a complete ip,
(33:21):
not just you know, TV rights or movie everything. You
own tomb rate or you just dropped one hundred million
on it and you're gonna do nothing right. That's why
I love Hollywood.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Because you know. Yeah, so apparently though they have her
pinned to a Phoebe waller Bridge being her, have her
pinned to develop another project at a substantially reduced rate
of pay.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
That doesn't say much, though, When you pocket one hundred
million dollars to do nothing.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Right, that's like, okay, we pay now, we want work
out of you.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
I mean, you could probably be pissed off right now. Wait,
I'm only gonna make twenty million and you want me
to work right? This sucks?
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Still sucks.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Call my agents where the city I love it. I
just love it. Well, we are on streaming tonight. That's
gonna be pretty heavy, pretty big stuff going on there.
And well, let's just go to the giant, the Titan,
the big one Netflix.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Netflix. Okay, back in the day, we said Disney could
do no wrong until they just kept feeding quarters into
the dick punching machine Netflix. Even when they're losing, they're
still winning.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, they've You would have thought that when they raised
rates on subscribers that could be a sign of trouble,
either driving people away or a sign that they're not
making as much money and they need to recoop it.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
And there everybody thought that they're see now, this is
one of those things. Even we said the uh, the
lower tier subscriber or lower lower tier ADS supported service
that would be generally rejected by Netflix viewers because this
is one of the times where our pressing has failed
(35:20):
us be rejected by subscribers because who wants fucking ads.
It's either a faster or it's not. There's no mid tier.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Well, I think this turned out to be a case
where they attracted a different audience like there, I don't
think there's subscribers were scaling down to save money, I think,
drawing the people in that didn't want to drop a
significant higher amount, So like, yeah, I'll go cheap and
do the fast. Why the hell not?
Speaker 3 (35:49):
You know, these are to prove your point. The uh,
the lower tier uh saw a six percent gain in
viewership for the company, and revenue grew twelve point five percent.
So there's your six percent plus the ad supported side
of it. So there's a twelve percent growth. I'll go
with that.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah, And I mean as a company in the first quarter,
they just they defied all of the negatives there, so
they made more money and they increased subscribership at the
same time with a price increase. Damn. I just I
just have to shake my head. I mean, we were
(36:31):
waiting for constriction to take place in the streaming sector.
It seems to be happening to everybody button Netflix.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Yeah. The revenue in the quarter was ten point five
four billion dollars, up twelve percent from last year, and
their operating income as three point three to five billion.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
And they said they're satisfied with the ad supported side
of things. So I mean they're that earnings per share up,
revenue up, and you can't find a downside. Here really Well, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Was looking at their most recently reported subscriber total, and
I mean it's global, but they're not all around the globe.
Mostly in US and Canada, a little bit in Latin America,
a little bit in Middle East and East Africa, some
in Europe. Not a lot, but three point one million subscribers.
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That would be the equivalent of three out of four
Americans subscribing to Netflix.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah, I mean they are truly a you know, international platform.
It's just And they also revealed how the top two
CEOs of the company performed last year, Ted Sarandos and
Greg Peters. Both of them made more than sixty million
apiece last year.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
That's a that's a good raak for C suite. But
was they're both uh? I don't know if they said
that Greg Peters was staying, but the the other co
founder is leaving the board. He's not gonna stand for
re election.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Oh that was you're talking about Read Hastings. Yeah, well,
they said he was going to become the chairman of
the board. I guess he's uh or no, out of
chairman of the board and non executive director, I guess
is what it is.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Okay, So he's not on the board, but he's still
got his finger in the pie.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Yeah, he'll I'm sure he's still gonna get residuals that
are gonna be mind bending. I mean.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
And Netflix is so low key about it too, you know.
It's I mean, I don't see their ads everywhere they
I mean except for when I log into Netflix. They're
not pumping their ship in my face all over the place,
you know. They just you know what, we're here doing
our thing. Come watch us or won't, don't, but you
know you're going to anyway, so just you know.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Yeah, I think the most audacious thing they really do
is maybe putting hot buttons on the remotes. But apart
from that.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Yeah, there are one Oscar offering a year that we
make fun. It goes in, it goes into just enough
theaters for just enough time to earn a Oscar nomination.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
And I still got to give them credit for it
because they're playing the Hollywood game, and Hollywood hates.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Them for it totally.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
It's like, oh, so you can do it for decades,
but when we try it, you get angry. Huh. Well,
I with this, with this quarterly report, had to be
an announcement that sent some shivers through other sectors of
the intertainment industry as they're toying with the idea now
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like one of the things they've been doing is getting
more and more into live television.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
I really liked this. Uh it wasn't directly a quote,
but it's kind of like reading between the lines on it.
They were asked, because of course Hollywood reporter has to
make things political from time to time. I mean, this
is the rap, but I mean a Hollywood reporter, not
the actual publication. How are President Donald Trump's tariff's policies
going to affect you? And they didn't outright say it doesn't,
(40:24):
but they said it doesn't. I said, well, I'm sure
it might affect some studios.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Yeah, because hard to factor in how streaming would be
affected by tariffs exactly out Yeah, production costs in certain
areas maybe, but as far as sending the product, no, yeah, no,
that's not we'll.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Do Yeah, we make movies, but you know that that's
that's a production studio problem. That's you know, that's baked
into the cost. That's the cost of doing business.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Yeah. I think the the biggest spear to go into
Hollywood regarding tariffs was when China was like, oh, yeah, well,
screw Hollywood, We're not going to take as many movies
per year, and the studios that probably paralyzed them when
they heard it, and Donald Trump went, ah, yeah, that.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Might have affected Disney, but as all the buzz on
social media said, it was like, good, does that mean
we'll get good movies again? I would admit, since everybody
started focusing on the Chinese market, going all the way
back to the Red Dawn rebooting a little bit before,
you know, with all the bullshit with John Senna and
everything else, I think partially to blame why we only
(41:37):
get reboots and very little creativity is because of the
Chinese market.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Yeah. Plus, on top of that, Hollywood has shown, probably
in the last couple decades, a tendency to actually censor
themselves on behalf of the Chinese.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Right, they don't need the Chinese censors, they do it
for them.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Cracks me up because I mean, go back to the
seventies or even the eighties, the mere whisper of censorship
would have just howls coming out of Hollywood, And now
the Chinese are like, you can't put that in the movie,
or we're not going to show it. You're like, okay,
we'll take it out, no problem.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
Yeah, just like this iconic jacket of a franchise that's
been successful for forty years. Problem.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
I mean, uhh, what was it with an Iron Man
that had the character of the Mandarin.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Yes, that they turned into a bumbling, fucking retard played
by take him out.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Yeah, so one of their i mean box office massive hits,
they had to censor one of the characters. Pirates had
a Caribbean. Same thing. They had to take out a
character that was Chinese because that offended them and the
studio like, oh absolutely.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
You know, the Force Awakens, they had to take the
big uh yeah, the big co billing of the black
actor in the film and then shrink him down into
a tiny little corner, you know, kind of like they
would do with cartoons, you know, and during the you
know golden age of Hollywood where you'd have a god
with the wind and puttle bugs Bunny down the barn.
You know that they it was gonna have a Bugs
(43:12):
money featurette before it too. That's what they did with him.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Yeah, so maybe they won't have to do that anymore.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Us a bad thing for the American consumer.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Yeah, I mean generally, it doesn't really affect us because
they'll still I mean, they were even gonna do this
with Maverick. If you recall when the.
Speaker 3 (43:35):
That's what I was talking about, changing the jacket.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
And yeah, the initial trailer came out and then they
just said ef it and that just to this day
floors me. I'm still shocked by that they actually had
the stones to do it, and look at it, they
got rewarded. How about that?
Speaker 3 (43:49):
Why didn't they?
Speaker 2 (43:51):
But yeah, so Netflix is actually looking to scare others
now because this quarterly report they said that they're now
looking in to podcasts and video content i'll llah Spotify
and video content like on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
Yeah, so I mean, did we need more of that?
But on the other hand, for people like you and me,
it's fantastic. I mean, we won't get on Netflix.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
But you know, it looked like they were going to
maybe go in a different direction where they would take
their existing talent and you know, once a movie gets
out on their platform, have that person then segue over
to doing a podcast or video cast, either about it
or surrounding it in some fashion. Yeah, they've touched on
(44:47):
a few things of that nature, and there looking to
maybe codify this in a way and make it a
regular feature. Okay, so there.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
Needs the Walking Dead or the Talking Dead. What's Chris
Hardwick doing? Just put him on TV twenty four to seven.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Well, they tried to do this too with the Amazon
tried it with the Boys. Yeah that didn't really work. No,
no not. I watched like I think too. I watched
the first one that said, man, this sucks, it's got
to get better, and then it didn't. So bye.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
That's about as many as I gave it to you.
That may have been as many as there were.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Yeah, for all I know, I haven't heard anything about
it since either.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
But yeah, you run up to your room and get
a beer, all right?
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Why don't we give it a shout?
Speaker 3 (45:40):
No, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Were we done?
Speaker 2 (45:42):
I didn't might dad? No, that's fine. We were on
a wrap. So we want to Uh I want to
take a break here?
Speaker 3 (45:51):
Yes, yes I do, because I need a beer. I
mean you started the show without a beer because you
left it elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Yes, and I think the quality has suffered as a result.
Is everybody is hurted?
Speaker 3 (46:01):
I'm sure it has, right, it'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Well, if I'm not immediately back I will be so uh,
go ahead and get your refills in the lobby, load
up the corn, refill the cokes, and we here on
the Culture Shift. We'll be back at about three and
a half for more entertainment news.
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Speaker 2 (50:25):
All right in welcome back to the Culture Shift. We're
we're back here, I think on an even keel. Now,
we got our refills. We're good to go. Or do
I not have my co host hang on?
Speaker 3 (50:44):
I forgot to on mute. Yeah no, we're balanced reading
and we're right yeah no, sorry here right, I'm prattling
on like a fucking retard for at least thirty seconds.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
See, I get all my crap straightened out here, and
now you go sideways.
Speaker 3 (50:56):
Yeah. So okay, So one quick thing before we move on.
I'm seeing on the eyebar one of our sources. While
we're talking about reboots and reimaginings and everything else, Peacock
is developing a continuation of Clueless starring Alisa Silverstone.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
Really now starring Silverstone? Yes? So is this going to
what feature her granddaughter? I because yeah, that's an old property.
Speaker 3 (51:36):
The Sabrina the teenage Witch thing. I don't know, no,
I mean it was loosely related to Bewitched, and but yeah,
just okay whatever.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
Yeah, I'm not really sure there's much of a demand
for this.
Speaker 3 (51:54):
Yeah, going back to my patented did we want this?
Was this something people asked for?
Speaker 2 (52:03):
I don't Yeah, I don't know that there's pent up
demand for Clueless, and whatever there might be would just
involve people watching Clueless. It's not like they need a revamped,
modernized version of this. That's really a movie of its era.
Speaker 3 (52:21):
I mean, yeah, because that was absolutely the vapid late
gen X early millennial latte sipping. Yeah that you know,
that's a snapshot in history. That's not I mean, unless
it's like, you know, where are they now?
Speaker 2 (52:38):
Think?
Speaker 3 (52:38):
Okay, so thinking like this. Though Cobra Kai was successful,
nobody asked for a Karate Kid spin off.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
Yeah yeah, I mean it's you know, we could sit
here and crap on this stuff that you know maybe,
But with Cobra Kai though, they kind of reworked it too.
It's it's Bobby. It's completely different though, it's not what
they did and that was clever. Yeah, they did something
with it, so I suppose if you can, but I
(53:09):
don't know. Clueless was kind of a one note thing.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
Yeah, though they did have a TV show for too,
and thankfully they're revamping the Police of silver Stones Clueless
not the TV shows.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
So and like Jeff said, Paul Rudd could be in
this and would look exactly the same.
Speaker 3 (53:27):
Yeah, he's.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
Very apprecient there. I gotta tell you that's a good one.
Speaker 3 (53:32):
Because all Ruds and fucking everything.
Speaker 2 (53:36):
He's uh yeah he is Benjamin Button, is he not?
He is? All right, Well, where do you want to
go here? Already? Because uh, because of my condition on
the road as I am, I'm uh, I'm gonna have
to kind of turn over the controls to you. You
got to kick this big. Where do you want to
go next?
Speaker 3 (53:51):
Okay? Yeah, so this one actually I wish I had
brought it up back when we were doing Disney's Woes
and everything else, but a little you know, this is
just an update of a story we've covered quite extensively
in that the lawsuit that Gina Kurna has filed against Disney.
The federal judge said, yeah, your emotion to Capel is granted.
(54:13):
We want to see everything that every star Wars has
earned or will earn in future projects. Basically the TV
Prize Ahsoka with Rosario Dawson, Pedro Pascal's salary. They want
everybody's salary.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
This is the funny part because I'm sure as far
as Disney's looking at this, you know, they're like, oh, man,
are we going to be on the hook for defamation
or what? You know? What do we do with this girl?
How do we treat her? And now through Discovery they
have to turn over payroll information. I don't think they
(54:52):
saw that coming.
Speaker 3 (54:56):
I mean, when you got Ashoka, which was mildless successful,
and look at the players involved in this. You'll have
Rosario Dawson seeing what Pedro Piscal makes.
Speaker 2 (55:10):
Yeah, this is going to be this is this is
going to create a little bit of a turmoil, as
it were. And the you know who's gonna eat this
up even more than Gina Carano. The agents.
Speaker 3 (55:23):
Yeah, yeah, no, I because if you look at what
is looking more in damages, which is only like seventy
five k. Yeah, this is more of this. This is
more of oh, okay, you wanted to fuck me, well
fuck you because you're gonna have to deal with all
this drama. And not just for me and not the press.
(55:47):
Everybody's agent is gonna cawl up your ass now, good
luck see you.
Speaker 2 (55:51):
Yeah, because this is going to become for Disney. One
of those things that takes place in the off season
with the NFL, and that is anytime a top flight
athlete signs a massive contract, the very next thing that
happens is all of the ages use that as a
comparable for their client. As soon as the quarterback signs
(56:14):
for fifty million dollars, they start crutching statistics and say,
you know, on a yard's per past basis, my guy
is just as good as him. Yeah, And the team
says shit, and.
Speaker 3 (56:28):
The timing couldn't be perfect with the uh upcoming Mandalorian
and Grogu movie being made.
Speaker 2 (56:37):
So yes, with all of the various products that Disney's
putting out now on streaming, the fact that everybody's gonna
know what everybody else is making uh huh, that's gonna
that's gonna create some accounting headaches for Disney, I believe,
and if anything, it could very well provoke more open
(57:00):
and transparency as far as the streaming numbers go. Because
of a doctor demands too much, the studio can turn
around and say, well, they've only got so many billion
minutes spent compared to the other movie, and we'll have
we'll have some hard data as a result as a possibility.
Speaker 3 (57:19):
You know what I see this as I see this
as a line of agents going out of Lucasfilm's had
offices like a casting call.
Speaker 2 (57:29):
Yeah, and basically the payroll and accounting office will be
the one saying okay next with no excitement. I heard,
who's your client want?
Speaker 3 (57:43):
We can't handle this press, just rubber stamp every fucking.
Speaker 2 (57:48):
Oh man, this is funny. I mean really, The only
time you hear about salaries, for the most part is
either if it's a major movie and they say, oh,
he just signed for a twenty five million deal, or
it's the people at the very bottom making scale and
everybody knows what ye the people in between not as much.
And when it comes to streaming, this could be new revelations.
Speaker 3 (58:09):
Usually the ones on the bottom making scale too. You
don't hear about that during union negotiations. You know, we
want scale increase to a buck fifty or something like that,
you know, plus craft service privileges.
Speaker 2 (58:21):
And I gotta ask, here, is that seventy five thousand
actually accurate? You're sure it wouldn't be seventy five million.
I I mean, I know that's what they.
Speaker 3 (58:31):
Just says, seventy five k I would be. I mean
seven point fifty I can see this fight being worth.
But also Elon said he'd pick up the tab on
this lawsuit, so.
Speaker 2 (58:41):
Yeah, yeah, he he told her he was going to
pick up a legal So yeah, as far as that goes,
she's not too worried about. So even if she loses
and has to pay punitive on on the you know,
you're responsible for legal costs, he'll be not please.
Speaker 3 (58:57):
Because I mean that does seem well because she is
actually she's been able to demonstratly prove in court how
this has affected her acting career, how it's hard for
her to get gigs, and you know, especially since it's
like others have said much worse Ziegler, for instance, than
I have ever said, and they're still working. The tweet was,
(59:21):
wouldn't it be great if everybody were nice to each other?
That's what she got in trouble for.
Speaker 2 (59:26):
Yeah, that that hate speech. Yeah. The other reason I
say this too is, I mean, seventy five thousands of
pittance to Disney, and they would have probably give her
ten times that amount to make this go away, unless
it just says, you know, I don't even care about
the money, make it five dollars. We're still going to court,
you know, maybe.
Speaker 3 (59:45):
Well Disney. Disney's owned for that too. I mean, they've
taken families to court for misusing Daffy Duck's image, and oh,
you dared to have a Daffy Duck impersonator at your
his birthday party, Well we're gonna sue you for a
million dollars for what the fuck. I'm a single mom
(01:00:08):
of five kids. Don't care, We're Disney.
Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Fuck you. Yeah, And they they've also refused to pay
off families because they signed up for Disney Plus. As
we've covered that, one still killed me. Oh no, we
can't pay you damages because you signed the agreement when
you Yeah, oh, your.
Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
Loved one died in our park due to our negligence. Well,
did you read the terms and conditions on your Disney Plus.
Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Says here you watch Bluey. So I'm sorry, no payment.
Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
Yeah, we're not making this up, folks. This is the
stories we've covered.
Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Well. Uh, on that note segue, speaking of defamation suits.
Zachary Young, this is a former Navy veteran. I've covered
him and spoken to him a number of times regarding
the suit that he brought against CNN for defamation in January. Yeah,
and to this day I'm still staggered and amazed that
(01:01:09):
CNN was charged by a jury with they were liable
for defamation with malice. I mean, it's just hilarious to
me because this is, by the way, the network that
wouldn't shut up when Fox settled their defamation suit. Right,
and that true.
Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
And one of the things that CNN covered quite extensively
when Fox had to pay up for their defamation suit
was how extraordinarily hard It is how rare it is
for a news agency to even go to trial over
a defamation suit, because proving defamation too, you know, intentional
(01:01:49):
harm on a network, you know, on a news outlet
is impossible because they are just reporting the news.
Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
Yeah. Well, and I covered this extensively last year when
I first found out about it, I think it was
last summer when it first broke due. I mean I
found it on some deeply obscure weekly out of I
think Tampa or something, and then me and Nick finneckkerover
Newsbuster started covering it in tandem and then it blew up.
(01:02:21):
But when I first saw the documents and what they
got through discovery from CNN, I said, holy crap, these
guys are on the hook. It was harsh, it was ugly,
I mean, damn, And yeah he won. This is the difference, though,
for all of the score and they heaped on Fox.
Fox settled out of court. They never went to trial. Right.
(01:02:42):
A jury found CNN libel and the.
Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
Jury said, we would have charged them for more punitive damages,
but Florida law only allows us to award ten times
the images, you know, the regular damages, because there's regular
damage and there's punitive damages and.
Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Because almost sounded to me like somebody didn't explain to
the jury exactly because that's what it was was their
first Basically, they found him for professional and emotional damages
and that totaled out to be about I think five altogether. Yeah,
and that meant the punitive damages because of Florida could
(01:03:26):
only max out at fifty. So if they had actually
granted him more on the pro and the emotional side
of things, that it could have really skyrocketed for CNN.
But even so I think CNN said no, we don't
want I really don't even think it was the dollar
figure as much as it was being punished for liable
(01:03:48):
being in the press, all right, but it's still this
is horrific. This is horrible for a news outlet to
be found guilty of this.
Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
And so in the theme of one of the themes
of the show is people not learning their lessons, Zachary
Young Has No Fun Now filed suit against the AP
and a outlet called Puck News where their characterization of
CNN's loss in the defamation suit where they have further
(01:04:23):
defamed Zachary.
Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Yeah, and pretty much what they did is just echo
CN n without any regard of evidence. And it's like,
this is what happens when the entire media complex works
in lockstep with each other.
Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
Right, Because you have AP alleging that he smuggled people
out of Afghanistan. This was in their coverage of the
CNN's loss of a defamation and liable lawsuit. They continue
to defame and liable saying specifically the word smuggled, which
carries a negative connotation, often illegal connotation, when everything Zachary
(01:05:07):
did was legal with all parties interests that had interest
in it, with the Afghani government, with the Taliban, with
the US government, everybody involved gave TASKIT approval for Zachary
to be doing what he was doing. The smuggling implies
illegal activity, right.
Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
And this actually differs from the CNN suit to me
right because CNN said that he was operating a black
market routine and was soaking Afghany citizens, where both of
those were false because one, his job was legitimate. There
were a number of people that do his job, and
he lost work two of these others because of this report.
(01:05:47):
And as far as soaking the citizens, he didn't even
do that. He only worked through agencies or corporations to
get their people out. So for instance, if CNN had
reporters trapped, he would be the one to facilitate there.
That's what he does and CNN should know this, And
yet they still said it was a black market and
he was hitting these poor distitute citizens for thousands and
(01:06:11):
tens of thousands, and he's like, no, I didn't know.
And that's where he hired me to get their people out.
That's the way it works.
Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
And that's where Puck News comes into play, regurgitating CNN's
assertations basically accusing him to be a war profit here
going in and take extricating panicked locals and with hefty fees,
sometimes tens of thousands of dollars to escape the Taliban,
and then lost a lawsuit saying those exact fucking words.
Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
And this is what surprises me about that Puck suit
is because it's it's operated by Dylan Buyer's and a
number of others. He comes from a couple I think
might have even been at CNN for a while, but
some top flight news outlets before he started Puck on
his own about three or four years ago. But he
still has very deep contacts inside of CNN. I mean,
(01:07:02):
he comes up with stories about the inner workings of
the network a lot of times, so he should have
known this stuff well long ago. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
And this wasn't him quoting the charges that CNN lost,
you know why they lost defamation suit. This wasn't like,
you know, because CNN had saved had said these things.
This is him regurgitating it mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Yeah. And that's that's what surprising me, because those internal
documents that that Zach Young and his team found showed
the people inside CNN, the producers and the reporter and such,
talking to each other and say, we're gonna go get
this son of a bitch. We're gonna bring him down.
It's your funeral buddy, that kind of crap. They went
after him. Yeah, and that's the kind of internal dialogue
(01:07:55):
going on that usually Dylan Byers has tapped into, should
have picked up on this. So for him to just
repeat this, yeah, it's definitely faulty on his part and
going to be interesting. But these lawsuits are cropping up
more and more often, you know, Like CNN used to say,
they're so rare these days. ABC News settled with Donald
(01:08:17):
Trump and he last week just finalized their figures on
a defamation suit that was mainly on MSNBC but also THEIRS,
where they talked about a doctor supposedly performing hysterectomies on
immigrant women that didn't need them. Yeah, and the guy
was like, what do you what? What are you getting
(01:08:39):
this from? They had a solitary whistleblower that gave him
all this information, and then six months later she recanted
all of her stories and they're like, oh shit, that wasn't.
Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
He Like, it wasn't he tagged like the sterilization doctor.
Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
You know, uh what they call him? Yeah, the hysterectomy
machine or something. I mean they gave him some kind
of you know, harsh title like that, right, and repeated
it like on a number of shows. It was on
Matt how it was on Chris NBC network, headed on
THEIRS for a while too. And this is Jacob sober
Off with the reporter attached to all of it. He's like,
(01:09:13):
oh my god, how did this happen? And this is
what cracks me up though. With CNN and MSNBC. They're
always claiming, well, we've got the editorial rigor that Fox
News lacks, and that's why they always have fake news.
Going out. We're more responsible.
Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
You can't watch Fox News in Canada because the Canada
government has, you know, determined that their disinformation. They settled
one lawsuit. You guys have got them stacked up. You
got CBS facing in sixty minutes, facing the Donald Trump
lawsuit too. That's actually holding up the Redstone deal.
Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
Yep. We've talked about that a little bit, and they
the people at the top, want to settle to get
the deal to go through, and the people down below
are like, no, we're gonna fight him on this. So
that's up. The pullets Are Committee. They're facing one from
Donald Trump m And ironically enough, if that does make
it the trial, it's going to be in the very
(01:10:10):
city I am residing in right now. That's awesome, So
I might be uh might be able to even cover
that live Fingers crossed.
Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
That would be fun watching the Pulletzer Committee go on trial,
and by extension, WAPPO and the New York Times.
Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
Yeah, Legacy media.
Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
I'll I'll have to bring a hand towel with me
just to cover my drool.
Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
Yeah, Brank, some LUBRIDERM. There's gonna be a lot of
fat material.
Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
Man, you're eating a lot of rice cakes.
Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
Brad.
Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
It's it's just it's just soaking up the extra I
have to do it. I have to do it. So
this is Yeah, this has been a new development in
the last couple of years. This this wave of defamation
lawsuits coming up left and right, and they're going forward.
That's the amazing thing. So Gina Rono suing Disney doesn't
supper me at all that it's succeeding mm hmm. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
You know, it's kind of like on the other end
of the spectrum, we're always talking about rogue judges. This
is not the case. Yeah, they're looking at this going
and that is absolutely worth bringing forward. Yeah, because usually defamation,
you know, it's like a frivolous lawsuit. Well you called
(01:11:24):
me a rapist, Well you were literally charged and convicted
of rape.
Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
Years past. Yeah, the judges would look at plaintiffs all
the time, it's like, yeah, but okay, you can't where
is this And throughout that CNN lawsuit, it was completely
in the other direction. They're like, you gotta toss this out.
Your Honor's like, yeah, I got an email right here
where you said you're going after his ass. Sorry, that's
uh Rune's business right here. No, let's right there, partners,
(01:11:54):
So we're going to trial and I but that's an
indication of how bad the media landscape is that they
no longer are getting away with what they used to
because they've gotten so bad at this.
Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
Yeah, the yellow journalism has gotten so bad that even
the legal system's goming hold on guys. We cannot cover
for you anymore.
Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
Yeah, it used to be you know, well, you use
the right language, or you framed it in just the
way that you can get away with it. Now they're
they're to the point that they've behaved so poorly. The
judges are like, there's no way I can say no, yeah, yeah,
favor Yeah, I think in any case, though, Jake Tapper
(01:12:42):
came out and they asked them flat out, It's like,
so what are your ratings and how much do your makeing.
It's like, I don't pay attention to the ratings. I'm
too professional for that. And the next day they were
showing up on Fox News all the tweets, Hey, we
had a number one show last night. Our ratings were sure. Yeah,
they don't even follow their own bullshit, is what it
(01:13:02):
comes down to. It's so damn funny.
Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
Yeah, their intellectual consistency is has the memory of a goldfish.
Well you just said this last night. I don't know
what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
No, it doesn't sound like mute all. But this is
a lot of this is really it's not directly affiliated
with Trump, but this is what's driving them anymore, is
as a collective, journalists across the board are just they're operating,
not with impunity, but just that well, we have to
(01:13:37):
go get him, and we have to go get this person,
and we're going to operate. We've gotten away with it
all this time. They don't pause and just hit the
brakes and say, wait a second, should we Yeah, they're
just so convinced that they're running the show still and
they're not.
Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
You journals were so wrapped up and whether or not
if you could, you didn't stop to think if you should.
Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
The problem with your phrase right there is you use
the word think right. No, The press these days are
on pure emotion, that's all it is.
Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
They're on one upmanship. How can I write the most
salacious headline and not get fired or sued? Well we
found that wall, guys.
Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
And that's the thing, you know, like at CNN, they
brag about what they call the tread and it's basically
this three layered filter of fact checking supposing. So it
goes through an editor, it goes through goods and services,
and then it goes through legal and they're all supposed
(01:14:45):
to sign off on these stories. And the Zachary Young
report was so screwed up. I don't see how one,
let alone all three of them signed off on this
kind of reporting.
Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
And they did illegal didn't look at that and go
go for it.
Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
And actually the report was so bad because this was
on the television side. I saw paperwork from editors on
the digital side that said, no, we're not touching this story.
You don't have the facts. This is like eighty percent
speculative emotion. You don't have no could we're we can't
print this. But they still went on TV with it.
Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
I don't know how. And our viewers have the memory
of a goldfish. Nobody will remember.
Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
But I mean, you've got digital editors said, oh, this
story is screwed up, and then legals like run it, go.
Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
Send it.
Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
No wonder your nuts are in a ringer today? Yeah,
so sorry, Yeah that's what you got on the TV side.
Speaker 3 (01:15:47):
Well, we got two things. Well one of them's kind
of one of them's movie related, but it's a reboot.
We missed it during the reboot segment. We've spoken about
this was in rumors and now it looks like it's happening.
Highlander reboot. We talked about how this was, you know,
(01:16:08):
just was looking like it was gonna happen. Henry Cavill's
sold to play you know, McLoud and you know, this
looks like it's happening, and then the hiccup today, but
it's not really a hiccup. I don't know if this
is an upgrade or a downgrade where it's being moved
out of lions Gate and up to Amazon MGM. Now
(01:16:32):
Lionsgate is part of Amazon MGM. I don't know if
they're bringing this up to give it a higher billing,
or I don't know the logic behind this move, but
it's like, I mean, it's everybody's selling it like it's
a good thing. I think it's just a lateral move
to get the buzz going again.
Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
Or and I'm going to get conspirational here, maybe this
is an extension of Donald Trump's tariffs because lion Gate
technically is a Canadian company.
Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
Mm, now this is under Amazon. This is under Amazon
MGM and United Artists. United Artists is an American company,
so that tracks.
Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
So they took it over from Lion's Gate maybe and
tying into the first half of the show. This could
be filling the slot that's been vacated by tomb Raider.
Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
Everything comes full circle. So yeah, that's really the only
interesting thing about that. The rest of it is just
explaining Highlander, Like, who the fuck doesn't know what Highlander is?
Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
Yeah, it's like, you've been talking about making this thing
for four years, We get it. When's it gonna get made?
So I think the fact that it's actually under the
Amazon umbrella directly is probably a good sign because as
we know, they signed checks like it's monopoly money out there.
Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
Yes, as we previously covered about an hour and a
half ago.
Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Yeah, it's like okay, yeah, sure, Hevy Cavil, how much
do you need? And then the next question is that's
all okay, go into.
Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
You got caval on that, and then you got a
new thing come out also from from Amazon MGM. I
love this how it's not just Amazon Prime anymore, it's
Amazon MGM with Prime Video. This one I'm cautiously optimistic
on because it can either be awesome or it's going
to absolutely fucking suck. And I remember saying the exact
same thing about Rings of Power. So, uh, live action
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TV series for Pacific.
Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
Rim Yeah, it was a little I mean, sounds like
a great idea, don't get me wrong, because uh, you
know it's robotic Kaiju break it.
Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
The thing that threw me though, was the designation of
live action. I thought the original with live action. No,
this is not a movie.
Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
This is a TV show.
Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
So I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
Okay, I don't know why. In this they're using the
propaganda recruitment posters to get people to you know, pilot Jaegers,
which is the giant mech in that universe, kind of.
Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
Like the uh, you know, the.
Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
Join the Mobile Infantry kind of thing in Starship Troopers.
So they're they're using the poster for it to make
it look like that it's an animated series, but it
is a live action series.
Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
Oh is that it? They had to designate off of
their one sheet?
Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
Yeah, this is the one sheet is there? Uh? Today?
Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
Yeah, it almost looks like a retro recruitment poster if
you would Yeah, that's kind of like the old older
kind of artwork. So okay, that makes a little sense
if they need to. That looks cool, but there's gonna
be people.
Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
Yeah, it's actually good artwork. It's got that kind of
like comic book dot you know, filler, you have the
big black dot on cheap newsprint kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
Yeah, it's uh, you know, the lines and everything are
pretty thick here, so it does look like graphic artists
kind of work.
Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
But no, the one she's fucking awesome on it. But yeah,
there's gonna be a live action. It's got Eric Heiser
from a Shadow and Bone and bird Box. Uh, he
was the showrunner on those and that's all that's attached
to it at this point. But he's bringing in his
uh chronology banner, which is, you know, the production company
he operates, and this is gonna be his inaugural t
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TV project and his inaugural project with mg Amazon MGM.
Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
And this, uh, this could work because they, like we
just said, they love the Belch money over their Rings
of Power case in point, geez.
Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
They money like uh prat kid after too many yagerbombs.
Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
What they spend on that series just baffles me. For
for it to suck as much as it does.
Speaker 3 (01:21:10):
Just what you just spent for what they just spent
for a TV series that nothing was done on. Here's
a twenty million dollars and then there's no proof that
penn was put to paper.
Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
Yeah, and just on that note too, I think last
episode we talked about Netflix with the Electric State, I
said it was three hundred million to make that movie.
I was around three hundred and twenty million.
Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
Oh well, shit bargain. Damn.
Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
Don't get me wrong. The visuals were amazing in it.
But yeah, okay, I didn't tell you it was about
one hundred and fifteen minutes.
Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
No, that's good.
Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
About the GDP of most third world nations.
Speaker 3 (01:22:00):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
I mean it's entertaining enough you'll you'll be like, wow,
oh man, that looks cool. Wait, what the hell is
going on? Doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (01:22:11):
That's absolutely the Netflix model. For those of you knew
to the show, and we've decided the Netflix model is
get some names, blow some ship up, make it look flashy,
make it exciting. But then you it's like you just
got flashed by the men in black. You have no
fucking you know, you've seen it. That's all you know.
Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
Yeah, it used to be what they would say, like
a hit films like the water Cooler talk Netflix movies
defies that go to work the next day. And did
you watch that movie? I did? What was it about? Oh?
I had that girl in it? I saw.
Speaker 3 (01:22:53):
I always get those guys confused.
Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
There was a white car and oh, gas station blew
up and I crashed. Pretty much what we get there?
It's part for the course.
Speaker 3 (01:23:08):
And it had that sneaker pimp song in the outro credits.
That's about all I can tell you. Yeah, that's every
Netflix movie prove us wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
Okay, damn it. What's going on here? I'm trying to
get to the streaming numbers and every time I do,
it just takes me to the deformation suit. Let's see,
there we go, there you go. Had to get it
to Nielsen, all right, So we'll wrap up light.
Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
This is a light week for uh streaming a bit.
Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
Yeah. Now on the movie side, original number one is Adolescence.
Have you been hearing anything about this movie at all? Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:23:54):
You mean on the overall because that's not overall, is it?
Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:23:59):
That's a TV show.
Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
Oh I'm not original. Sorry, hit the wrong button, But
there we go. Yeah, this thing is I guess it
is a British production and it's kind of taken that
nation by storm.
Speaker 3 (01:24:11):
I want to say it's the Great Baking Bakeoff whatever
Great British Baking. I have no idea what this show's about.
But with four episodes and one point four billion minutes watched,
that's respectable. Yeah, this is Remember that video you sent
me explaining the Great British Bakeoff to me? I get it,
I do, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to
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trash it.
Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
Gonna make us appreciate it some way somehow. Yeah. Now,
with adolescence, this is I almost get a sense of
this is the last gasp of woke because it's a
cautionary tale, of course, about how young white males are
influenced by social media and it leads to aggressive social behavior.
(01:25:01):
The media in Britain are all over this thing. They
love this movie, and it's gotten to the point where
they're starting to put this into schools now to teach
or indoctrinate the students about this. Understand that this is
Britain that currently is under fire for all kinds of
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immigrant violence taking place, and just as this thing was
spiking and people in the media were screaming about white
youth violence. In Britain, a story broke of six immigrant
teenagers arrested for gang raping and the press would not
disclose their nationality. They just they would say six youths
(01:25:49):
or sixteens have been arrested. It's like, yeah, what are from?
What city? Where they're from Britain? Leeds, Liverpool?
Speaker 3 (01:25:56):
Where we have about the case at all?
Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
What that?
Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
No, that's just you know, the British public asking the
media any other demographic actors you got behind teens.
Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
And that they were male, okay, and that's it. And
if you ask, you get in trouble. That's the funny thing.
So I saw a clip I think was earlier this
week where a British politician came out on a talk
show like Their Morning, their version of the Today Good
Morning America, and was talking about, you know, things are
(01:26:31):
going on and the one hostess is like, now, did
you watch adolescence yet? And she's like, no, I haven't.
I don't have to because I've been studying the news.
I've been watching what's taking place, and I've seen what's
evolving around our country and where the problems are. It's like, no, no,
you have to watch I can't believe you ever watched this.
It is an important documentary that explains all these problems.
(01:26:52):
Politician looks at her and says, we got a gang
rape that just took place from immigrant youth. Yeah, but adolescence.
And she called it a documentary. It's a complete fiction.
This is trauma.
Speaker 3 (01:27:05):
Well, you know it's funny. Okay, so pose Law I
joke about the great documentary Iron Sky. I'm being satirical
pose Law. If you're not familiar with pose Law. That's
the Internet axiom that there becomes a point where parody
(01:27:27):
and activism are indistinguishable from each other. It's like, no
matter how over the top you think you are with
your parody, there is actually a level of activism that
that's real with them.
Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
This is that exactly. And that clip I mentioned though,
just personifies the British press right now. They are just
a goog over this thing. It's like, yes, we can
blame the whites now because we have proof with fiction.
Speaker 3 (01:27:59):
Okay, guys, these are the same people that thought The
It Crowd was a documentary.
Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
Only because of the accuracy and the humor.
Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
You know, Robert Williams had a joke back in his
earliest stand up days, his first one Big I think
it was evening at the Matter or something one of
the and he made a joke about getting high and
thinking Quest for Fire was a documentary.
Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
We're here now, Yeah, absent the drugs. Yes, that's the
that's the sad part. You don't have an excuse, all right,
Moving on for originals here, The Residents is number two.
This is a bit of a surprise that weever Reacher
third season has come out. It's only in third position.
Speaker 3 (01:28:47):
Yeah, but that was two episodes in. But the other
thing is that it does have twenty three episodes. Like
we talk about often is that you'll get when a
new episode drops, you'll get a lot of churn on
the previous seasons where people like catching up. And with
twenty three episodes, that means they're three or four episodes
into their third season, coming in third behind first Run.
(01:29:09):
You know, I'm gonna blame the UK for Adolescence that
that Daytime Bobblehead, she's personally responsible for those four episodes
of adolescence getting one point four billion minutes viewed.
Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
Yeah, Well, the thing is with I'm surprised by Reacher
because when season two came out, there was advanced hype,
and there was hype while it was on. Everybody was
talking about it. I've not heard the same reaction here
with season three.
Speaker 3 (01:29:34):
I think we're done with the Reacher. It's just uh,
because I haven't heard anybody really say, oh my god,
you've got to see it on you know. I mean
the circles we move in are the circles of the
people who are gonna say, oh my god, did you
see reach your season three. I haven't seen any of Buzzy.
Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
And I did hear that on season two. That's the
funny part, yeah, or the telling part. Hey, guess what.
Apple Plus has gotten into the top ten. Severn is
apparently their big show.
Speaker 3 (01:30:01):
One person tells me, I gotta watch Severance. I'm gonna
fucking kill somebody.
Speaker 2 (01:30:06):
On that very topic. Huh. People are talking about Severns
like mad It's only in the fourth position because it's
on Apple Plus, and people.
Speaker 3 (01:30:14):
Are like, nobody else to see that.
Speaker 2 (01:30:15):
Where is it? Apple Plus? The hell is that? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:30:19):
It's kind of Apple Street and Service ten years ago. Really, Huh?
Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
It comes through with your phone, dude, you got a phone, right, so, yeah,
you can watch it on your phone. Didn't didn't even
know that? Wow, that's a h.
Speaker 3 (01:30:34):
And then uh, I need you have to tell people things.
Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
Yeah, and you would think you got it, you know,
kind of a captive audience right there in the palm
of their hand. How about pimpot a little bit? You know,
we open up your email? Hey seven season threw is
just started, by the way, here's your email. No, they
don't do that for some reason.
Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:30:54):
Taylor Sheridan has got another hit on his hand in
nineteen twenty three second season that comes in at five.
Temptation Island? Are we really still doing?
Speaker 3 (01:31:05):
Are still really do it? Really doing? Reality TV?
Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
Okay, a wheel of time.
Speaker 3 (01:31:11):
This is surprising because the first season was absolutely ship
all over it was.
Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
But huh yeah the Pit on Max this is quite
a diverse top ten for a change. We don't usually
see this kind of mix.
Speaker 3 (01:31:28):
Yeah, you really don't. I mean this is all over
the board. I think the one got on here for
a change is Hulu.
Speaker 2 (01:31:35):
And the Pit is It's got some good advance where
a lot of people like it. It's a new medical drama.
Noah Wyley's in the lead there. Yeah, that's how are
in Pittsburgh. Apparently it's supposedly realistic. I've heard good things.
Then we got Invincible and running points over on the
movie side. This one, I gotta I gotta say, this
(01:31:59):
makes me happy. Mowana two on Disney Plus is beating
out Wicked on Peacock.
Speaker 3 (01:32:07):
Yes, bye, a pretty good margin too. You got Moana
at one point one billion minutes watched and Wicked under
a billion.
Speaker 2 (01:32:19):
Yep, just at nine hundred million, so it's pretty uh substantial.
Then you got Electric State as we just talked about
number three, uh, Den of Thieves.
Speaker 3 (01:32:30):
Two, Pantera, that's I mean, these are all just chopping
at the heels of Wicked too. So it's not like
you go, oh hey, now we can's almost got a
billion minutes. Well here's these other things that almost have
a billion minutes.
Speaker 2 (01:32:43):
Just good to see Gerard Butler in the top five.
Speaker 3 (01:32:45):
Sure, when's your Ard Butler day?
Speaker 2 (01:32:50):
Yeah, we got to do that again. It's usually in
August at some point, so yeah, yeah, we can do Pantera.
How about that Craven the Hunter really five? Come on,
people were making fun of this one, but okay, yeah,
then they got.
Speaker 3 (01:33:04):
It's got that buzz though it's so bad you've got
to see it.
Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
That might be what it is. Yeah, it's probably. It's
on Netflix, and I heard people talking about it. What
were they saying, Well, it wasn't good, but they're total
talking about it, so I'm gonna get it.
Speaker 3 (01:33:17):
Okay, So this is the next two. This is one
of those things where it's like you bought the wrong movie.
It's gotta be you got number six, you got the
Twister Caught in Storm, and number seven you've got Twisters.
It's not like everybody's really hot on seeing tornado movies.
So I think that they all thought that Twister Caught
in the Storm was Twisters. And because Twister Cotton Storm
(01:33:41):
is on Netflix and Twisters is on Peacock, so and
no like Apple, plus, nobody fucking watches Peacock. So I
think this is a mistaken identity thing because it's not
even close. You have a disaster movie up against a
big budget disaster movie, and the low budget one is
(01:34:02):
kicking its ass.
Speaker 2 (01:34:04):
Yeah, that's that doesn't really make sense, does it. It's uh,
it's and it might even be, Well it can't because
this is Nielsen. I was gonna say, well, might be
in case of Netflix plaining the game was like, oh,
they turned it on, realized it was the wrong movie.
Stop they watched it.
Speaker 3 (01:34:21):
This is Nielsen, so they can't do that.
Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
This isn't Uh, that's why they do minutes.
Speaker 3 (01:34:26):
By the way, So there you go, talk about water
cooler talk. Hey man, did you see the Twister sequel?
Speaker 2 (01:34:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:34:33):
It was terrible.
Speaker 2 (01:34:34):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (01:34:34):
It was fantastic Caught in the Storm. No, the sequel
was called Twisters. Oh that's not what I watched.
Speaker 2 (01:34:43):
Yeah, huh. And then the you know, whoever watched the
one movie heard it from the other person, so they
both went home and watched the other movie as a result. Yeah,
what the hell were they talking about? Let's pull up
and see a self fulfilling failure. How about that number eight?
(01:35:04):
I got a bit of a mover review here. It's Trap. Okay, wait,
I mean there's been a Josh Hart didciting. This is
the latest from m Night Jamalan. Okay, and let me
just tell you not much of a twist. Also, not
much of a movie. It's about a guy who's a
(01:35:26):
serial killer that goes to take his daughter to a
teen concert. The place is swarming with cops and swat
and everything else because they're trapping the serial killer inside
of an arena that they know he's attending somehow. I'm
watching this with the wife. She wanted to see it.
(01:35:48):
I'm about forty minutes into this, and so much of
the damn movie was about the girl on stage singing,
just featuring her. The song sucked. They were just nonsensical.
And I'm looking at her. She's got long black hair,
a bit of brown skin to her, and I'm like,
you know what garn bucking teed? This is m Night
(01:36:09):
Shyamalan's daughter on stage. I was just thinking too, and
the wife's look at me. He's like, what now come?
It's like, why the girl's featured? She sucks? You ever
heard of these songs? You ever heard of this? No?
So I look it up. Shirt up. Selika Shyamalan plays
Lady Raven.
Speaker 3 (01:36:26):
Of course she does. Yeah. See, here's the thing is,
I am absolutely convinced M. Night Shaman was I don't
want to say a one hit wonder, but he peaked
early like Spike Lee. Spike Lee had some great movies
at the beginning, and now they just won't fucking go away.
It's doing research for the show I Spike Lee's got
(01:36:47):
another fucking movie out. I thought he was dead. I
literally thought he I haven't heard anyway?
Speaker 2 (01:36:55):
Is it about the New York Knicks? Yeah, I don't know.
Uh right, And just continuing, we've got Despicable Me four
at number nine, and Anura, the Oscar winner.
Speaker 3 (01:37:09):
Has cracked. Who finally cracked the top ten on one
of the lists.
Speaker 2 (01:37:17):
Uh, Nora, Okay, that's what. That's what the Oscar gets
you a couple of hundred million minutes viewed that you.
Speaker 3 (01:37:24):
Want to go fired because that's an interesting chart.
Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
Just doesn't just doesn't pay to be an Oscar winner
anymore because the oscars suck, as we covered all right,
So overall, what was number one? Adolescens took it all.
Speaker 3 (01:37:39):
Anyway, you got to go over to you gotta go
to a fire because.
Speaker 2 (01:37:43):
That's just in chart. Oh what did I miss? Got
Graves Anatomy at number one?
Speaker 3 (01:37:51):
Really three way tie Gray's Anatomy, Blue and White Lotus
all within oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
Each about two million between them five million something like that.
Speaker 3 (01:38:04):
Yeah, barely.
Speaker 2 (01:38:05):
Yeah, everybody talks about White Lotus and I've anything I've
heard about it, Like when I said, well, what's it
about and they tell me it's like, no way in
hell I'm watching that nice and even the positive reviews,
I'm like, what, like, oh, it's a bunch of white
privileged women at a resort and they're all backstabbing.
Speaker 3 (01:38:27):
It's just kind of no, no, no, no, I'm sorry.
A Real housewives.
Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
Yeah, it's like, so it's it's Real housewives, but they're
all insufferable. Oh yeah, they all suck and they run
and this is a rave review. Hmm, okay about that.
Speaker 3 (01:38:46):
Okay, back to overall. I just wanted you to see
that because I thought I'm that interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:38:49):
Yeah. I didn't even see those numbers. Okay, how about that,
But those where all the you know, kind of the
retread stuff. The rookie is on there. That kind of
surprised me a little bit. That's it, Hulu. I mean
it's uh, you know, Nathan philly In. You can't go
wrong with him, of course.
Speaker 3 (01:39:03):
But yeah, that show just won't go away, and I'm
okay with that.
Speaker 2 (01:39:07):
Here's something unusual. The twelve year old is all about it,
like the rookie. Yeah, he comes over to the house
and he'll be like, oh, these guys, I'm gonna stay
over next week. We should watch it.
Speaker 3 (01:39:21):
I'm telling you, Nathan Fillion has universal appeal to every race, gender.
Speaker 2 (01:39:26):
And age. Yeah, I mean, it's not a bad show.
It's just kind of formulaaric. It's cops in uniform and
la kind of stuff. It's yeah, all right, I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:39:35):
I'm procedural, I mean, but still Italian. He just everybody,
you know, they they either want him or want to
be him, or want to grow up to be like him.
Speaker 2 (01:39:48):
Right, Yeah, I can't go on. I mean I still
watch Castle. I still enjoy that show.
Speaker 3 (01:39:52):
I watched at least times a year.
Speaker 2 (01:39:56):
Well you kind of have to though.
Speaker 3 (01:39:58):
One season, I think.
Speaker 2 (01:39:59):
They're the law. Yeah, it has to be. Oh, we
gotta put the screws the Fox again. So let's I'm
gonna go watch it. That's it, all right. So overall
the Britain drama I'm sorry, documentary takes takes it all
with adolescence. Then the Residents, ma Wanatu, Reacher, Gray's Anatomy,
(01:40:20):
Bluey of course got to have to White Lotus family guy,
Wicked in Severns. I thought Severns would have beat Wicked.
Imagine my surprise.
Speaker 3 (01:40:30):
Well it's close, but I mean that's where you're looking
at a movie versus a TV show.
Speaker 2 (01:40:34):
Right right. Well, that's why I think I probably would
have picked Severance. If I had to, I was gonna
lay chalk on it. I would have gone that way
and lost money, how about it? That's all right?
Speaker 3 (01:40:44):
Interesting, I wouldn't have known without this chart right here,
Rayi's Anatomy four hundred and forty two episodes. Family Guy
Shut four hundred and forty one episodes.
Speaker 2 (01:40:55):
No. Wow, that's that's something right there. That is something,
And how amazing is it? Family Guy is still enduring
and the Simpsons have just kind of dropped off the radar.
Speaker 3 (01:41:12):
Entirely because the Family Guy knew when to stop.
Speaker 2 (01:41:19):
Well, also, the Family Guy didn't turn woke.
Speaker 3 (01:41:23):
That helps you. I mean, for Seth McFarlane being woke,
he takes he does the exact opposite because he knows
the exact opposite is funny. He is personally woke, but
he knows what funny is.
Speaker 2 (01:41:43):
Sure, No, he's take anyway. He's woke in the private life,
but he's not politically correct professionally, so it's.
Speaker 3 (01:41:51):
Uh, south Park the other way around. Yeah, well, yeah,
you can't. I don't want to make that kind of money.
Speaker 2 (01:42:03):
Yes, eh, Jaez, Well, that's gonna do it for this one.
I think we uh tapped out on our content here
as usual, spread all the jam and served it up,
so we're good to go. So why don't you tell
everybody already where people can find more of you?
Speaker 3 (01:42:20):
Well, thanks for asking, Brad. You can find me as
Ordnance Packard on x, Twitter, whatever you want to call it,
at least until my rock account takes it over, because
I think my rock account achieved setians last night. I
talked about that on Rick and Alorady. You can find
me Saturday on Juxtaposition with Rick as we do a
makeup show. You can find me next week on Manorama,
(01:42:40):
on Tuesday nights on Rank or Steve's Rumble channel YouTube
right here on X and Klorin Radio dot com, and
Wednesday night you can find me on Rick and Orday.
Speaker 2 (01:42:49):
How about you?
Speaker 3 (01:42:49):
Where can people find your magnificence?
Speaker 2 (01:42:54):
Well, I've got a daily media column at town Hall
dot com. It's called Rift from the Headlines, and I
cover a lot of the culture and entertainment stuff over
at Red State on the front page there where I've
also got twice weekly podcast called Liable Sources and you
canna hear more of me on this network. Next Thursday,
I'll be here with Paul Young from Screen Rant. He
(01:43:15):
and I will go through the dark side of Hollywood
and bad movies on disasters into making and every Tuesday
evening I'm here with the ever Effor Best and Aggie
Reekin As we give you all the leisure and relaxation
topics to take your mind off of this crazy world
of ours. Through cocktails and sports, art, science, you name it,
(01:43:35):
we come up with it to try to bring us
smile to your face. And if you need more of
me than that, let's face it, you do if you
head over to Jitter, I'm at Martini Shark. All right,
it was a good one we had.
Speaker 3 (01:43:49):
I gotta give you props, you and Paul. I mean,
every week you guys got me rolling. The last week
I was fucking dying on disaster. Really now, Yeah, that
was good. That was good commentary one hurt.
Speaker 2 (01:44:00):
I gotta be honest, Well.
Speaker 3 (01:44:01):
I imagine I can feel your pain. It's like when
Jeff does his uh rings a power recap, you can
you can feel the emotional trauma in every word dropping
out of his mouth, so that I felt I felt
that from you and Paul and.
Speaker 2 (01:44:15):
Yeah, I mean we love the bad movies. We just
don't love all of them. It's kind of the way
that works out. So sometimes they're clunkers, and uh, you know,
we take it on the chin for everybody and we
steer them our way as a result. But we have
our fun doing it, that's for damn sure.
Speaker 3 (01:44:31):
If you can't find a way to be behind to
a bad movie, then you know it's bad because you
got all the chosh key.
Speaker 2 (01:44:37):
Yeah it was uh, you know, you kind of want
to go into it and say he's like, like, what's no, No,
what are you doing? Eli, Sometimes it does happen. Well,
we are We're going to do our homework and see
if we can match the excellence of this episode. In
two weeks. There has already night. Come back here and
(01:45:00):
give you more entertainment on the culture shift.
Speaker 3 (01:45:04):
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