The Culture Shift w/ Brad and Ordy: Ctrl,Alt,Rebrand

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:57):
Hey, welcome k l r N Land. What is going
on tonight? Is Thursday evening. It's your early introduction to
the weekend. That means this is the culture shift. How's
everybody doing? This is Brad Sliger getting ready to walk
you down the hallowed sidewalks of Hollywood's Walk of Fame
and point out all the interesting sites and sounds and

(01:17):
what's going on in the entertainment industry, but not doing
it alone. Side by side with me every fortnight on
this journey is America's most lazer focused and digitized Iamish
individual already packard What is going on tonight? Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:33):
You know, just having a beautiful I guess we'll call
it Spring Day. Out in sunny California, we're currently living
the meme from La Story. It is seventy two and sunny.
Next weather forecast in five days.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
Oh, I'm doing awesome. How's everything out in America's wang?

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Oh? We're good, We're good. Everything is happy down here.
It's a playoff season. Panthers are doing pretty well at
the moment, and we're just living the dream and drinking
it at the same time. Nice, just the way it goes.
We're having our fun. But uh, I guess we are

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ramping up for summer, and so is Hollywood. So we've
got we got plenty on our plate. I think we
got a pretty loaded boat for tonight.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, I mean, you know, it's after the uh the
post Awards lulls and heading into cons we're finally starting
to get some uh some entertainment biz news.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, and the theaters are trying to warm up as well,
so much. They're getting ready for summer. The bigger names
are coming out, although this one kind of took me
by surprise. Missed this one, didn't see the ad for it.
And yet well we can't get away from snow White.
We just I did too.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
Here's the story when that thing when bunker Buster.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah, all right, when you leave a crater like this
pretty much you think you're done. No, it's smoldering, there's
smoke coming up. We have to go and investigate. What
the hell is this all about?

Speaker 3 (03:13):
So what they said was to drop the bomb using
the Las Vegas bomb testing metaphor where they had tested
an underground bomb. Then they decided, you know what would
be cool, Let's drop a bomb in it.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
I mean, you failed so significantly. Dare we say, historically,
let's augment the misery? Why don't we so? The prevailing theory?
And this is the only one that even comes close
to maybe seeing logic on the horizon. The movie is

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making his debut on streaming services this week. Tuesday had
came out so you could rent it at home. You
know that movie nobody wanted to go out and see.
Now there are expecting them to drop thirty dollars to
own Snow White digitally, or if you only wanted the
rent it for forty eight hours, it's a mere twenty
four ninety nine.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah, because what the hell had to go see it
once in the theater? Why would you want to subject
yourself to forty eight hours of it?

Speaker 2 (04:17):
I mean, sure, you can watch in the comfort of
your home for double the ticket price. I mean what
already the migraine is setting in. But in anticipation of this,
for reasons that defy logic, and as we cover frequently
on this program, how we love the fact that studios
refused to operate with common sense. Disney felt it was

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a supreme idea to unleash this movie. Nobody wanted back
into one thousand more theaters this weekend.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, they dropped it into uh, thirteen hundred screens, thirteen
hundred and thirty screens nationwide.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
It was still meandering around like probably the dollar houses,
like three hundred theaters, but then they re expanded to
one thousand more over the weekend. This paid off to
the tune of less than half a million dollars at
the box office.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, four hundred and sixty and change. And uh, you know,
we did the math on it, so that way y'all
don't have it. Usually math is a Sunday night thing
here on Kalor And but sometimes we've got to do
the math. And every theater that showed this over the weekend,

(05:38):
I believe it was a three day weekend too. For
it three hundred and fifty twenty one cents average between all.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, that's not one screening, that's that's the entirety of
the weekend. That was the average of cost. So people
when they throned out about this, they're like, wait, this
is back. I just checked my theater. Nobody bought tickets
for the show.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
I took the math a little bit further because I
found out what the national average, since we're doing national average,
what the national average is of a theater ticket a
movie ticket is twenty three dollars. That means fifteen people
per house side.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
That's over three days.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
The three days at thirteen hundred screens.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
So let's see factor in. Let's see Friday. You're probably
looking at three to four screenings Saturday, probably seven to eight,
and uh maybe three or four more on Sunday. Let's
say roughly anywhere fifteen to twenty per screen. Yeah, one show, Yeah,

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I mean so this this opened up, I shouldn't say
open up, reopened, re arrived. It was nonumber fourteen for
the weekend in a thousand screens. Mind you, this was
like the six or seventh highest release for the weekend.
But well down there that per screen average. If you
ranked movies based on that, snow White came in at

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number sixty. Well again, showing on thirteen hundred screens. Just
damn that is that's a rebuttal of of epic proportions.
The public is abjectively refusing to see your movie at
this point.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
See and this is where my theory I think Trump's
the prevailing theory, you know, like you said, the prevailing
theory is that it was dropping on streaming, so they
wanted to get, you know, some hype to go with it.
You know, hey, it's back in the theaters. There's number
one movie that it came out if you use the
most bizarre metrics possible to get that ranking.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Here's my theory.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Disney wanted to further humiliate that hob goblin for what
they had done, what she had done to their project.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Maybe so, I mean, it could be at this point
the studio is like, hey, we can't look any worse.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
But you can, right, I can do We can do
this and get out of spite.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
They showed down cons But the numbers still stagger me.
So what of course, upon this news, you know, we're
digging into the numbers as we always do here. This
film has barely made eighty six million dollars it was projected.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
The originally projected to make a hundred million in the
first weekend point did they downward spiral.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
That in a week leading into it? But still two
months this thing has been in the market for two
months and is just now reaching the level they were
expecting initially for the opening weekend. I mean, that is
just dismal. Globally barely made it across the two hundred
million dollar mark. That's yeah, which I I'm even staggered

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by that, because all of the conflict and all of
it behind the movie was all pretty much American outrage.
It seemed like, you know, we don't like this girl,
we don't like her politics. Where who gives the rats
ass about that? In Australia and Britain and such. You know,
that's that stuff doesn't really carry over, right, And a
lot of times we see this where you know, the

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global box office will you know, bail them out. The
international might go like two fifty or so, and then
overall it'll make three hundred and twenty three twenty five,
you know, and be respectable or something. No, the international
territories rejected this.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Yeah, usually international, when you got something like this, it'll
at least make the production costs, if not the promotion
cost you know, and all at least like, okay, well
we took a bath on the promotion, but at least,
you know, the production costs we covered, not even the
case in this No, and I'm even billion to make
this movie and it still hasn't broken even in two months.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Oh, it's not even close this thing. This thing has
to pull about six I'm saying six fifty, six hundred
and fifty million to break even. And this is gonna
be after streaming, after all of the rentals, secondary markets, cable,
international TV, all of that'll roll in over the next
six eight months or so. They're not going to come close.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
It's I'm just talking about productions.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah. That's the thing is they're not
even They're not even at shooting budget levels here.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
This is just dismal, and they have some af to
make it. Seemi Consolo made money. There's no way they
could ever make anybody believe that this made money.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Well yeah, I mean and with that film they were saying, well,
you know that Solo Cup promotion they had was pretty good.
That brought its twenty five dollars, but I mean that
added to the coffers and you know they played that game.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Yeah, that's like said Dune too, flush bucket flush, Like.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, that's that's not gonna do it. That's just not
gonna Speaking of our dearest friend, Aggie. She sent me
to post that this summer they're re releasing Jaws into
theaters and they have a themed popcorn bucket and it's
a giant shark head whose mouth opens up. That's only
going for forty five bucks over at the Alamo Draft House. Yeah,

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you know, just a popcorn bucket light. I mean, sure,
let's let's just drop money on that because we have
no reason to hope it was made in America, because
the terroriffs are going to the house. You know you're
gonna buy it. Yeah, but I'll get in on the
secondary market, that'll right, exactly. Yeah, you'll get pull that
off for eBay for probably twenty bucks or so. Don't

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tell the wife it. Yeah. So that was that was
rather dismal and hilariously disappointing, And it wasn't the only
misfire for Disney this week. Hilariously enough, Let's harken back
a couple of years ago, shall we one of the

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big Disney news items that we covered extensively here because
the story just wouldn't go away. This is back in
the uh neophyte days of Bob Chardoff's career as the
CEO of the company. Take it over the helm the
year before. But uh, in twenty three, I don't know, man,

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it just heated up. Florida was passing a law that
had absolutely nothing to do with Disney, right, They were
just looking for the best interest of the very youngest
and most impressionable school children were talking ages kindergarten to
third grade. Hey, might be a good idea to not

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let them read a graphic novel about blowjobs. We just
feel wrong about that. You know, that's not a good
idea for our children. Yeah, I mean, you know this
became a social outrage somehow, right, Yeah, it became.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
It became a big part of the culture war, and
you know, the whole the wonderful method of the you know,
it's that don't say gay bill and.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Shit like that, and so brilliantly.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Disney decided to interject themselves into that fight.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah, this it was one that we kind of saw it.
We watched it evolve, that's for sure. And there was
rumblings inside the company because they were just at that
point in time giving so much latitude and traction to
their woke employees. The entertainment media started getting in on

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it as well. Windows Disney gonna speak up about us
as if they were obligated to. Oh but Disney has
steam parks in Florida, so they have to put the
screws around the Sanders because we don't like him living
here in California. Yeah, brilliant, right there.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
They did the meme of why hasn't Taylor Swift spoken
out about this yet?

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Actually, you know, so Bob Jpeck at the time tried
mightily to be as neutral about this as possible, as like, well,
you know, we understand starting rights and really want parental advisement,
but at the same time, we want people to Basically,
he tried to appease everybody and in the process pissed

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everybody off, at least at his company. Yeah, outraging sued,
pitchforks came out, torches were lit inside of break rooms
at Disney headquarters. How could he do this? Turn his
back on us? Who's this guy? So Jpek and then
was compelled to then come out and start going to
battle with Rod DeSantis opposing this bill, buying into the

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don't say gay lie and as a result, Disney started thanking.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Well, let's admit it, Yeah, he was doing an okay
job of staying neutral or at least trying to keep
Disney neutral in it until Bob Iiker ran his mouth, right.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, that was the other thing. Iiger, who had left
the company of CEO, was still plugged in with very
let's say significant and loud voices in the company, and
he was needling them as like, hey, you got to
get him to put a letter oute, you got to
get him to make a comment. Yeah, at which point
shape Beek was kind of cornered and had to. So

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the problem is when you make Bob Iiker and your
activist employees happy, you run a foul of the general public.
Because polling at the time showed seventy voters thought it
was a good idea the law.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah, who's your business, bob. Families you know, not generally conservative,
all of them, but you know what, they're kind of
the ones who are going to support this bill because
families don't want their kids through you know, they're seven
to eight year olds to read books about blow jobs.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Just say it. Yeah. The you know, the general public
was in favor of this. They even had a poll
that showed democrats favored the law. And of course families
because this was family oriented, parent oriented law. Parent is
in the headline of the bill not don't say gay,
a word that doesn't appear anywhere in the legislation. Parents, Yes,

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so what do they do. Let's appease the gay crowd
who wasn't affected by the ball, and let's piss off
the parents who the law was written for. Brilliant business decision, guys. Yeah,
and just on top of it, the nuts and bolts
of the law was basically parental guidance for items in education.

(17:13):
Where does that term parental guidance exist? Oh? Right in
the movie industry, yeah, Mpia. Disney was opposing a policy
that they have posted on Disney Plus. In fact, I
looked up the wording of like, if you scroll through
their site and find content advisory, they haven't broken down

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in various categories, and they said content here could be
objectionable for kids of these ages. The exact age is
covered by the law. Yeah, so it's okay for them
to do it. But if Florida codifies it in schools,
oh my god, Nazi fascists right, it makes it was
so damn damn, damn damn ridiculous. I loved all of

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it about rehashing this.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
We had, We had a good run with it for
like eight weeks.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Oh, because they wouldn't stop. They wouldn't shut up. They
kept stepping on rakes on this and every time we thought, okay,
they learned their lesson, knew this group had to protest.
They had to release light fear, which is totally running
a foul of the very law. They had to do that.
I mean, they lost their ass everywhere right in pr

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They lost it at the box office, they stock went down,
I mean, you name it, they lost. Yeah. So why
are we bringing all this up, Well, we just want
to reiterate how pro gay Disney was pronouncing themselves right.
We're for the gay crowd. We're very welcoming. You're all here,

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you have a voice. You are seen at Disney, except
that they're new entertainment park that they're planning to open. Yeah,
new theme park is on the horizon. The announcement came
out this week. Disney has struck a deal to build

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a brand new Disney World. And at this Disney Park,
you will not be allowed to say gay. You will
not be allowed to hold hands if you're gay. You
won't be allowed to kiss your gay lover for fear
of the death penalty.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Seed of your another male period.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
They are building this park at Abu Dhabi. That's fantastic
a nation where homosexuality is literally outlawed, right, make it
make sense? I mean, you know, and this is just.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
That's just so Disney because at the end end of
the day, the mouse wants money, and you think about it,
it's like, well, you know Abu Dhabi, Okay, so that
handles you for you know, the rich and wealthy along
the uh you know, Arab Peninsula. No, because that is

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also closer to the entirety of the country of India
than Shanghai Hong Kong are. And the flights are cheaper
and easier to get into if you're Indian. So that
is banking the entire population of India flying there too.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Mm hm. Which now again that's significantly It's this perspective.
I'm not questioning why they're doing this, but how do
you reconcile three years of this mainsense.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Because as we find on X all the time, the
rabbit left really only cares about America. Doesn't matter what
country they're from, they only care about America. These sins,
the sins of Eastern Europe, the sins of Asia, are
irrelevant compared to the sins of America, because when you're Camelot,

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the shining City on the Hill, you have to be
above everybody else, even though they hate you.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah. I had to pin somebody down earlier this week
with logic on this particular subject because I was, you know,
expressing the contradiction of this. And of course, you know
these days, if you disagree with anybody online, you're automatically maga.
That's just the go to insult anymore. I'm Nazi fascist. No, no,

(21:47):
it's it's pretty much just mega is. I've been called
mega I think four different times this afternoon alone on
various topics, like I've made fun of the Rolling Stone
for a way, they reported a story, are you mega idiots? What?
I'm sorry, where did that come from?

Speaker 3 (22:01):
K I suggest that somebody eat a wienershe so one
got called a maga fascia.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
So I just it's like, uh, one of them said
today too.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
It's like, you know, well you said in this case,
came a lot.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
O what he did there? Good one. But yeah, they'll
they go to Magan. Now it's like, you know, Maggan
idiots just hate the truth. And it's like, well, I'm
going to be sure to let one know as soon
as they meet him. They have no answer to that.
Then for some reason, it's like if I just dispatch it,
then somehow that defends them. It's weird. But the discussion was, oh,

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you magi idiots should love this because you hate Gaze
and Sharia love it. You love it, I said, Num,
I'm not clear on your point, because this is Disney
actually doing business with Sharia. I think they're worse. Okay,
I'm just somehow that's approvable. But assuming I hate gays,

(22:59):
I don't know why. But even so, I wait, I
fought with Disney for three years. But if they're going
to a place that kills gays, now, I like, Disney.
Is this your logic. You're not met at Disney for
what they're doing, You're met at me for I mean, that.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Was like when they filmed the Mulan and the live
action Mulan right next to the you know, they probably
used the slave labor from the ugar camps. You know,
when it comes to Disney, because they have the right
messaging in their movies and in America they are okay.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Well, yeah, that's the thing to see with Mulan. It
wasn't offensive because they actually shot there, so it's not
cultural appropriation. They may have appropriated a few slaves to
help the production, but that's acceptable because of where it
was right that culture pintin that I'm trying to think

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like they do it. I'm not good at it.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
But cock mat of presser judging their culture.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, exactly. It's a like the people and seeing any
other day had said that we can't take these immigrants
from South Africa because they're white, send them back to
Germany where they belong. Yeah, but they came from Holland,
so I'm not sure about that.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Oh yeah, but you're bad that we're sending never mind,
you know what, fuck it.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
It's holding them to their own standards is the best thing.
It's just like, but you are, okay, I'm just gonna
go with mad I'm just gonna go with that. So yeah,
here we have Disney now building a park in a
Sharia law country after telling Ron DeSantis, how dare you
protect kindergarteners? Yeah, this is where we are anymore.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
So I know I've given up trying to figure it out.
Just it's hypocrisy because they have the memory of a goldfish.
So don't actually have to remember what they said last year,
much less yesterday.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
That was yesterday. Time is linear. We've moved on exactly.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
It's it's a case where you can say, you know,
they're so much better than us because they have more standards,
twice as many.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
In fact, double the standards that.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
We well, clearly what Disney is suffering with here is
uh is PR and marketing issues. Segue. See what There's
been some exciting news already this week in the form
of corporate branding.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
Because once again it shows our prescience.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
I'm using excitement here only based on the fact that
many of the tech news outlets reporting on this used
all capital letters. So there you go journalism. Google, for one,
decided they needed to rebrand their letter G that they
use on say social media or on the app. You

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know the icon that where it had four different colors, right.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yes, where it was the old color wheel, Now it
was the eye dropper for the RGB.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, you know, you go on Google, you're familiar with
the four colors, and the letter G would have the
four colors in block formation going around the arc and
then on the arm of the internal G. That was great. Well,
they had to make a wholesale change because this has
been ten years since they've altered this logo, it was
time for a refresher. Really, the same letter G with

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the same four colors. Yeah, oh, I see what they
did here. Instead of a hard line between the colors,
it's now a gradient. It blends into it fades into
the next color. So this is completely different the representation
of corporate synergy and how the various aspects of the

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company can now meld together and there's no separation as
they're all part of this bullshit. It's just it's the
same LETTERGY.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
To Google's new logo flows from color to color, shattering boundaries.
It's a vibrant reminder, no limits, just creativity. Any startup
can navigate and conquer the market like a true trailblazer. Wow,
right there, I saw somebody put up as much as

(27:44):
smart monkey loves this fucking logo.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
That is that's got to be a masturbating monkey right there.
Just that level of excitement over this because all right,
somebody showed it. They they put it on their feed
on how easy it was to make this change. They
went into like one of the paint programs, logo comes up,

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highlight you go down here gradient, slide wheel, click, done,
new logo. It took all of like seven seconds. Yeah,
the description you just read took longer to concoct than
this change in the logo.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
I was able to do that seventeen years ago, the
free Microsoft image editor that came with no fuck more
than came with front page ninety eight.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Gradient. There you go. It's good to see that Google
is still using Commodore sixty four at their headquarters. Right.
Holy hell, this cracked me up.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
I mean Google, it was like shit because they're actually
on Windows ninety eight machines.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Next year we're going to upgrade to Gateway. I just
had to laugh because I saw some people post this
and I was like, I gotta cover this. Let me
see if I can find a media outlet that talked
about this. So I just did a search and I
got like dozens of tech out Like all the tech
outlets exploded on this. Yeah, oh my, here's the new

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logo from Google. Do you this isn't even news. I
can't believe more than ten outlets even recognized it.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Everybody wants to get to the top of the seos praising.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
And the best of all is I'm really you know,
just scrolling through all of these you know outlets, getting
a chubby over this. I said, is this really a thing?
So I went to Google's jitter account. They hadn't even
altered the avatar yet.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Yeah, they haven't altered the desktop app either.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
I mean so how, I mean how think of a whore?
Are you to do this? It just explode with glee
over a company's new logo, and even the company is
half assing it like.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
There's no hard lines. It's a gradient. I am jizzing
all over the monitor over this.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
It's like you're gonna come to lunch with us? Tom,
I gotta take a shower. Guys, No, I gotta pass today.
I had a busy morning. It's been good, don't get
me wrong, but holy hell, this kills me well as
moronic as that is.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
This is where our prescience comes into play.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
This story I can't get enough of. I'm gonna say
this was a good idea only because a couple of
years ago this was a dumb ass idea. So what
are we talking about? Anytime we're referencing the streamers, you
and I both stumble over this because yeah, Max, we

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have to go with Max.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
It has vexed us for two years of why they
adopted the name of their skin flick brand, ditching the
prestige of a high quality.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
Original entertainment.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
For Max, not even giving it climax, which is when
we all know what it really meant.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
But it was cinemax.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
You know, it's kind of like Motel six, the nine
is left off, but you know it's there. Yeah, so
ditch the HBO just went with Max did that for
two years. For two years, it has vexed us just
never couldn't wrap our brain around it. And like you said,
trips us up.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
All the time.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
Well now they're doing the walk of shame.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yes, big bold announcement. Max will now be referred to
as HBO Max everything. Glad you guys got it right finally.
I mean, you know, even the debacle that was New Coke,

(32:09):
I think they turned that ship around within a couple
of months. You know. I think.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
My conspiracy theory on that was that they did it
to mask the switch from real sugar to higher toast
corn syrup.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
See, this is why you host a conspiratment show. That exactly.
That's my story. And if you really want me to
break your brain.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
I did this in a chat the other night on
your show with Aggie.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
Coca Cola is the largest consumer of oranges, I think globally,
because when you get right down to it, Coca cola
is just orange drink with caramel.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
But but what what about the cola nuts? What about
the cocaine that's been gone since ever? They Yeah, I
loved their story Somewhere I think back in the forties
or fifties that's been the Congress was leaning on them
about coke, and they'd allegedly come up with a process
where they can process cocoa leaves but extract the cocaine

(33:14):
from them and making them and everybody bought into this,
and my first question is, so what are they doing
with the cocaine then giving it to the pharmachical companies?

Speaker 3 (33:29):
You remember it's showing talking about HBO. You remember showing
back on HBO in the eighties, not necessarily the news, right, Okay,
there was a bit they did with how do you
make caffeine free coke or caffeine free drinks? And basically
they had three guys sitting around a vat. You know,
they had the cast sitting around the vat with these
giant straws sucking the caffeine out of the vat and

(33:53):
whatever the coffee or the soda or whatever it was.
When you talk about taking the coke, that's how I
picked what happened to cocaine. Well, these guys had some
giant straws stuck into a vat.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, it's it's one of those you know, questions that
you always tickle the back of your brain and nobody
ever wants to answer. You're right, like the government gave
them stipends and such and expectation. Oh no, you can
still do it as long as you take the cocaine out. Cool,

(34:26):
We'll definitely do that. Sure, keep it for ourselves. But
I mean it's not in the product. I can promise
you that much, sir. Okay. So it's yeah. So this
is a case where I guess you could say they
finally figured out that this thing was a debacle and
nobody liked it for a couple of years. Well played guys. Okay.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Uh. CFO Gunnar Weinefelds in an interview, uh talking about that,
he said, you, what they've come to find out is
that in the new landscape, this is just pure corpus
scamp spin in the new landscape of the streamer wars
that people want quantity or want quality over quantity, where before,

(35:14):
like during COVID, everybody wanted quantity because they were stuck
at home, so that's why they made the change. Then
now everybody's going for quality for original programming, and that
has always been HBO's things, So they're bringing it back.
Just shut up, you fucked up. Everybody knows you fucked up.
Nobody called it Max, everybody called an HBO. You're just

(35:37):
you're conceding.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Yeah, I I don't think people were contacting them and saying,
you know, you're really diminishing the import of your core
brand by avoiding HBO. We would prefer No. People are
saying Max is dumb as hell. Change you back. That's
that's the feedback they were getting, You dumb ass, is

(36:00):
what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (36:02):
And there you're the industry kept calling an HBO and
refused to adopt Max.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yes, I will be cold and.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Dead in the grave before I call IMDb freeb.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Yeah, yeah, I gotta. It's pretty much what happens anytime
they rename a stadium with a new sponsorship and everybody
just reverse to the old one.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
Yeah, it'll always be Jackmerger Stadium to me.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Yeah, I mean Dolphins, Dolphins still playing Joe Robbie Stadium.
He's been dead thirty four years, but still we've been
through so many damn. That probably has to be the
most named stadium in the NFL sponsorship wise, and can't
ever keep up that or Cattlestick Park, right exactly, That's

(36:46):
always gonna be the way. So uh so, yeah, they
finally figured out you're screwing up and just related note, well,
actually I'll talk about this later, but there are still
trying to cobble together for some reason. Max HBO Max.
They don't dominate in the streaming charts like usual. They're

(37:10):
just not a fixture. It seems like it's because nobody wants.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
Well, I can't say that because it's all we talked
about for a few weeks. I was gonna say nobody
cares about Game of Thrones anymore because they're making another one.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Did he findly write a book it's only been fifteen years.
Oh he didn't, he didn't.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
It's probably based off of something like Duncan Eggs fucking
short story and that.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Yeah, I forgot I was going with that.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Uh, they just haven't had anything really well.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
I mean, they've got what is it, Last of Us?
Is that the new zombie hit. Yeah, people are kind
of going for that again. But I've even heard complaints
about season two that it's not living up.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
So the thing that I wish I had known about
apparently it's already been canceled. It was on a a
couple of years ago.

Speaker 4 (38:06):
Was it was It was a satire.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Of American consumerism and just how dumb Americans, you know,
Like anyway, the new vau Rishar. It was a kind
of like a sci fi theme show called Avenue five
on there.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
I just found it.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
I just started seeing shorts just start popping up for
it on my YouTube last night, and I'm like, what
the fuck is this?

Speaker 2 (38:29):
This is hilarious.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
It's got the dude who played House as the captain
of the and he's Oh. I'm like, I would have
watched the hell out of this if I had known.
So I don't think HBO Max whatever they are, is
bothering with advertising anything.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
If it's not Game of Thrones, they don't tell anybody.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Yeah, it's kind of odd, and you would think with
the supposed powerhouse they have as far as content and
library and all that there would be more of a factor,
just the kind of curious that they're not.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
You know what I totally forgotten until I was doing
the story. You know how we always give shit to
uh paramount and how they've changed their names so many times.
Oh sure, right, it didn't occur to me and tell
the story that since streaming started, HBO has gone from

(39:28):
HBO go to HBO now to HBO Max, to Max
back to HBO Max.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Okay, I guess sure.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
I mean the good thing is, you know, HBO, they've
they're kind of taking the piss out of everybody else,
busting their balls about it. Their X feed has been
full of them making fun of it themselves. U you know,
instead of you know the Spider where they're all standing

(40:02):
in a circle pointing at each other. They did that
with Superman three Superman pointing each other and HBO goes
hiding behind the boxes and.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
All by a bad Warner Brothers discovery. It's always nice
and meta to see a corporate account be self aware
like that.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Yeah, they also put out a tweet.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
This was a good one.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
It's the Warner Brothers water tower with a raven on
top is breaking white smoke scene coming from the Warner
Brothers water Tower.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
A brand, a new brand has been chosen. Good one,
good one.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
So okay, I'll give them credit for, you know, the
self depreciating humor.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Yeah, I mean, at least this means they've recognized the issue.
It just took them a couple of years. So who
are we to knock them for that? I guess Hey,
speaking of super Man, Yeah, hi U. Big trailer dropped
for the summer release coming up, and I watched it.

(41:13):
I did too. I'm here to report that that stuff happened.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
It's got a lot going on in it, and I couldn't.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Tell you what the hell the narrative is, though I
kind of can.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
It's this is going back to the Silver Age. It's
a story from the Silver Age where the Superman uh
kind of started taking things into his own hands globally
and he, uh, he fell into disfavor with the general public.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
And you remember we were talking last time.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
I don't know if it's true, if it's just James
gunfucking with people. That part of it was extra dimensional
monkeys that Lex Luthor has causing social media controversy. Anyway,
you know, I was kind of like, Okay.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
It's a Superman movie.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
That's fine until the end and the John Williams score
came up and I actually cheered up a little bit.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
I'm not gonna I'm security.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
I ask that the John Williams Superman score. The theme
is probably one of the most powerful eighties.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Theme songs for.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
Me, or pretty much it's up there with like the
this Hans Zimmer and top Gun or you know, it's
there's that iconic.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Sound to it.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
And when they did, because that's one of the things
I was missing from Zack Snyders. He didn't use the
John Williams. He just went straight Hans Zimmer and that.
I mean even the two thousand and six Superman used it.
So in my brain now it's not Superman unless you
here John Williams kind of patriotic, little mournful, little somber

(43:09):
Superman theme ramping up as the action starts and to
just pure fuck y America, truth, justice in the American way.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Which I'm all for, by the way, I'll just go
on the record. Yeah. So with this this trailer, though,
I couldn't really things together because there wasn't a lot
of dialogues that there wasn't a lot of explaining. It
was a lot of flash cutting going on. We see
Lex Luthor, we see some batties. There's a big robot
that shoots lasers. I saw a couple sharp looking rescues.

(43:43):
Superman crashes twice. One angry resident bounces something off of
Superman's skull. That was kind of cool. He's walking into
the crowd and people are piste off at him. I
guess that's more of like a go back to where
you came from immigrant.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
No, it was uh yeah, that was the public turning
on him.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
I gather that it wasn't just like that. What it
wasn't just like one Yeah, no, it was everybody was.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
But there wasn't really a lot of cohesion. It was just,
you know, like a bunch of flashpoints. And this is
gonna happen. And they're over here and he's hugging Lois
Lane and flying with her, and then he's doing an
interview over here, and then we see Lex Luthor laughing,
and then we see Superman crash. So, yeah, a lot
of stuff is gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
Looks good, right, I mean I at first I didn't
want to watch it because I didn't want to be disappointed.
Now I'm like, yeah, okay, I'll probably watch it and uh,
you know it just that was a pure James gun trailer.
You have no fucking idea what the movie's about. But
there's a lot of shit going on.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
I didn't care for the uh the logo on the chest.
Now they gave that short shrift. I think the last
last couple of Superman outfits have been really sharp. Where
it had the uh kind of the textured weaving and
then the very dark and sharp looking s on the chest.
This is like a slash mark. It didn't even look

(45:17):
like an as, so I don't know what they're going
for there.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
It was a little bit closer to the super Girl's ass.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
I thought, Oh, and then we did see the dog.
The dog's involved. Yeah, you got a super dog in there.
That's cool.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
Part of a big fight sequence too. With I'm hoping
that Zod.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
I'm going with yes, But like I said, yeah, a
lot of it was unclear, so I can't even determine
ascertain correctly. But it looked, uh, they look good. It
could be the big hit of the year. Actually, we'll
we'll have.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
To see it if it is sod and the other prisoners.
The chick in it was more of a transformer than
a you know, with her little spinny wheel fucking blades.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Yeah, that was a little off distancing there. I was like, wait,
what we're doing? That wasn't it in Shark Nadore spoiler alert? Sorry,
well that's so that's on the horizon. Uh, something else
as broken as far as movies go, A John Wick
spinoff is coming. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
We brought this up like a year ago and haven't
heard Dick about it since.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Now, you know what? Every now and then, I think
right before the fourth John Wick came out, I managed
to sign up for text alerts, and it's like I
get them from They're Headquarters, from the movie the People
at the Table and such and everything. I'll get one

(46:46):
of these just obscure, random, non sequitory texts. The people
at the Table want you when John Wick is in
trouble or something else. But every now and lately the
last six months, it's been about Ballerina. I'm ready to
joined up? Are you ready to get involved with the ballerina?
Who the hell's that? Oh? That's right, it is from
I gotta say it from John But yeah, they're finally

(47:10):
getting around to getting this one released, and they're saying
this is going to do some business. Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
It is looking at thirty five forty. Yeah, they're calling
for an opening, which is kind of what John Wick
two did.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
So the thing the original was not that big a hit,
it was.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
It did better and after well, it was I.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Think it was one that was made relatively cheap and
so you know, the h the Bar to Claire was
relatively low as far as you know, making this a success.
But it became a cult hit, no lie right, It
only made forty three domestically. Yeah, and you know, now

(47:59):
the budget was like twenty mil so it's not too bad,
eighty six global, so they were like, hey, you know what,
we turned a profit. There's something here. Each successive movie
has been bigger and bigger. You hardly ever see this
in a franchise, which is amazing.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
It's like mission impossible, where each one has gotten bigger.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
So I'm just bringing it up because for a spinoff
like this to be making thirty five to forty at
the opening, that's almost crusting what the original movie did
in its entire run. All right, So that's pretty impressive
right there.

Speaker 3 (48:37):
Yeah, and you know it's it's slated to have a
cameo with Qino in it, and uh yeah, it's brand
you know in this and you know, talking about the
industry from this in brand awareness and the key demos
is really high, so they think it's going to do
pretty well.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Yeah, it's the wick. Movies are what happens when you
give the right material to the right people. And these
are films that are basically made by directors who are
stunt directors and so action scenes, fight scenes, car chases,

(49:18):
all of that is what script is. You know, basically,
he's gonna go out there and shoot a bunch of
people for ninety minutes. Bring it, you know, and what's
his motivation? The dog thing? It doesn't matter. That doesn't
sound like much of a character arc. I'm not clear
what the fuck gunborn? Oh got it? Okay, I got

(49:40):
a chubby, let's go. And no, but just the way
they shoot it, just the way that choreographed everything works.
And so you don't need bare bone script. But you
don't need more than that because the rest of it
is all performance and it's beautiful. So I'm giving this
one a shot, like to see how see how it

(50:00):
plays out all right, or do you want to do
a break here intermission? Yeah, let's all go to the
lobby because this way we kind of bifurcated our show
here we did big screen content to open. We're gonna
go to the small screen TV spin offs, stuff like
that on streaming when we come back. So hit the lobby,

(50:21):
gives your refills, and then double back to your seat.
In about three and a half and we'll be back
here on the culture shift. I need my.

Speaker 5 (51:07):
Living the news. Just give me something, something I can use.
The loving when loose love in London? Well I could
have been an age, but I will out here.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
I just have to look good. I don't have to
be clear. Come os Fa and my ill. You just
turn in London. Chick Chile.

Speaker 5 (51:46):
When the gee you want, kick him, when.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
The do kick him, when the up chick him.

Speaker 5 (51:59):
Alma give the male head of Glee laund comes on bad.
She can tell you about the plane crash with the gleam.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
It's interesting with.

Speaker 5 (52:15):
Gam But Dad muster London. Can we build the operations?

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Is the hen dag yay?

Speaker 5 (52:29):
You know the boys in the newsrooms gotta bout it.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Get it.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
The window on the set.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
We need London.

Speaker 5 (53:23):
You don't really need to find out what's going on now,
you don't really want to know just how it's gone.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Just leave one know your day. Monday down, get down,

(53:56):
all right, welcome back to the culture shipft and uh
rather fitting play out right there? Thank you, Jeff our producer,
Well already probably gonna have to lean on you for
this next one.

Speaker 4 (54:11):
Yeah, Jeff always picks the perfect song for our breaks,
doesn't he He.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Does, he does. He's a he's a savant in that way.

Speaker 6 (54:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
So, so you brought this one to the table, and
I don't find it confusing. I find it. I don't know,
it seems to be lacking. I'm looking forward the real content.
This is all about Comcast spinning off their cable channels. Yeah,

(54:41):
so we've covered this.

Speaker 4 (54:45):
Yeah, we've covered this for a while.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
We even made fun of it because at the time
when they were gonna spin off to a company, when
they were trying to convince investors to buy it, they
didn't even have a name for the company, So everybody
just started calling it spin co.

Speaker 4 (54:58):
We's to spin off company, right clever.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
Apparently that's stuck because they're trying to call it versont
and nobody's calling it Versant. They're just calling it spin Co.
So what the Comcast is doing is they're taking their cable,
the NBC cable properties, sci Fi, USA, MSNBCCNBC, you know,

(55:23):
and the like, and they're spinning that off into spin
Co but kind of attached but not really is going
to be the broadcast programming under Versant. So Comcast is
kind of divesting itself from or at least they're spinning

(55:45):
it off of their cable and their broadcast television. But
the weird thing about this too, and this is where
I just can't get my brain wrapped around, is because
they're trying to delineate cable broadcast and streaming. But Peacock

(56:05):
will remain the core of the company, but be part
of one of the two, and it will be picking
content from NBC universe.

Speaker 4 (56:15):
See, it's not that it's confusing, it's just stupid.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Yeah, this this struck me as it was purely a
corporate pr job. Obviously most of the game what it is,
and I'm trying, you know, they keep insisting, oh no,
there's so much liquidity here and the value point is
really building up, you know, and all that kind of
talk It's like, okay, but we already knew you were

(56:41):
doing this. What's the news here besides the name change.
I mean, okay, you got a clever new name that
means nothing to anybody. So my take on it, and
I don't even know if this is accurate, is that
Comcast is retaining NBC in Peacock, but some content can

(57:04):
flow between all the entities. And it seems to me
like if the cable channels are suffering, they can loan
them some content to help boost and if something really
hits on the cable channels, they can bring that over
to Peacock then to boost streaming. That's what I'm getting
out of it too.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
And then you know, like where the NFL is broadcast,
but it'll also be available on Peacock and maybe some
of the other cable channels if they have. Yeah, it's
just you know what, why not just keep it all
under one house. I know why you're doing it, because

(57:44):
you want to distance yourself from MSNBC as much as possible.
That's I mean, they they have made no bones about
we don't fancy ourselves the owner of a brothel.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
And the telling aspect in this article is anytime they
list out all the channels that are involved. MSNBC comes
in like fourth on list. It is not the MSNBC
and our other cable channels, No, it's Sci Fi, the
E Network INSNBC.

Speaker 6 (58:16):
They want you to know, clearly and uncertain terms that
in the opposite of what we started the show off
with Disney, that in no way do the views of
opinion of MSNBC reflect on Universal Parks in any way possible.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
Basically, the problem child and the hookers over there will
not reflect on the company. This is all of this
is going to be proven out in one way. The Olympics. Yeah,
we got that coming up again, don't we. Because anytime
NBC in the past has had the Olympics, they throw

(58:56):
those sports over anything that they own.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
So which I think was a lesson learned after Green
Channel and Blue Channel and Red Channel.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Yeah, they we would throw stuff all around. The USA
has these games. Cross country will be over here at
CNBC at eight pm or something. All right. I think
they figured it out the last Olympiad by putting everything
on peacock and you can go through and look for

(59:30):
whatever you wanted on that one platform, which makes make sense,
and if you wanted to watch the fencing match from
Saturday three days ago. You could go and do that.
That was brilliant. Yeah, it's all right there you want live,
you can watch I wanted to see. Yeah, and you

(59:50):
didn't have to go looking for it. You didn't have
to schedule a hell, oh my god, the field hockey's
out of two in the morning, I'm gonna have to
wake up for that or something. No, you could watch
it the next day on the streaming platform. Done.

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
And what that actually kind of brought back the water
cooler talk, because if you miss a match that everybody
was talking about, you could like go home that night,
watch it, come back and then be able to talk
about it with everybody the next day, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Yeah, and if people were you know, oh my, you
haven't said you have before you watch the semi final.
You got to watch the quarters. Brilliant and then you
can go and do it. And you know what, I'm
not even a huge Olympics fan, but I dropped the
I don't know, whatever the hell it is seven eight
bucks for a month or two, I'd do it. I
enjoyed watching rugby and the fencing and a few other

(01:00:40):
sports I don't normally watch. Because it was there and
I could just at my leisures like, you know what,
I got to do some work. I'll put this out
of the background. Cool. So that's your solution right there. Now.
If they find out that cable channels are suffering, or
are they going to give them some Olympic comverageure or
you know, this is what's going to be the thing

(01:01:01):
to look for here.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
World breaking happens, then yeah, they'll absolutely show it over
on the cables.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
But they they're making it sound like a grand announcement.
It's like it's almost like they said, Okay, we're getting divorced,
but we'll still get together during the holidays.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
That kind of thing feels like staying together for the kids,
which is broadcast.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
No, no, we'll be here for Thanksgiving. I'll bring something,
no problem, we'll do it. Okay, you'll tolerate us for
that time. God. Well, a little bit of a surprise here.
Speaking of streaming services, Fox Nation had a new entry
this week.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
Yeah, this is something they're gonna be able to do
all the time, but it was it was damn good.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
I'm pretty sure this is a one off. I get
a feeling, but why the hell not if you can
do it once, you gotta do it. Greg Guttfeld the
basic star of Fox News. I mean, this guy can't
he can't miss no.

Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
It's it's like Parker Lewis you think about.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Perfect. The thing with Gutfeld is he makes it feel
like he doesn't give a damn about this stuff, unless,
of course, he dresses up like a king, and that's
pretty much just to stick it right in the eye
of Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen Colbert. Yeah, apart from that,
he's like, I give it damn and he manages to
hit the top. He's been the host of The Five,

(01:02:38):
which comes on at four in the afternoon. That has
been the biggest show on cable now for months. I'm
talking all cable, not news beats. Everybody. Oh no, we
talk about that. Ratings all the time, makes no sense.
And really it's just four or five of them cobitzing
over news stories and that's about it. His late night

(01:03:01):
talk show here on Koren Radio dot com exactly, it's
what we do. His talk show has dominated late night
talk for over a year now, and nobody wants to
talk about that. In the Emmys or elsewhere. They pretend
he doesn't exist. He doesn't count. He's on cable. These

(01:03:23):
other cable shows that are also yeah, you don't shut
up about John Oliver Conan was on cable for till
the end there and all this, but he doesn't count,
probably because he's beaten their ass every single night.

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
Didn't they like make special exceptions so that way Conan
could get an AMMY nod on his way out. Remember
they did some kind of like weird scheduling thing and
kind of change the rules of the categories so that way, Well, what.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Happened was they got mad that they have this set
up that the amount of nominations is predicated on how
many qualify, you know, like they if you only have
eight shows in a category, you can't give out five nominations.
In other words, it'll only be two, all right, right,
right right? So they they had like nineteen they needed

(01:04:16):
twenty to get an extra nomination so that Codin would
get that nomination that they could only go with four,
And they didn't count Gutfeldt because they just resent them
so much. So they counted I believe a talk show
on a streaming service. Yeah, that's right, that's right, Like
this will be the first year the streamers will be eligible.

(01:04:38):
It's like, oh, so now you got twenty one shows,
and now you got five, and now Coden gets another. Okay,
I got it. I see what you did there. You
know Greg Counts right now, he's actually on TV now. No, no,
that's different. Different, well yeah, wo be different. Gutfeld has

(01:04:59):
introduced a game show. He is the host of a
new game show showing on Fox Nation, the streaming service.
He was the one that even said about the show,
this is possibly the strangest game show ever created. I'm
hard pressed to argue with him. I mean, I'm sure

(01:05:21):
there's been stranger you could probably say Fear Factor and
stuff like that, but.

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
Yeah, or pretty much anything that's ever aired in Japan.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
But is competitive contest formats go. This one is unique.

Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
So it's a pretty cool premise. Like I said, it's
just not something. This is probably a one off.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
The concept is they take four contestants. They brought them
up to a secluded five bedroom home. I believe it
is up in upstate New York. Had them ensconced there
about two or three days before the inaugural no internet,
no phones, no cable, cut off from the outsider world.

(01:06:12):
They did have electricity, in all of that, they didn't
work hubbish. They were just secluded. They were able to
watch movies and play video games. They had some tech
on site, they just weren't connected to the outside world.
Why for three months they lived there in that state,

(01:06:35):
oblivious to anything that happened in the world, and then
blindfolded earphones, they drive them back to New York City
to the game studio so they can answer questions about
the news and determine what was real and what was
not right.

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
And given our news cycle the last three months, that
had to be fucking hard.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
Yeah, coming up with the fake news stories. I don't
believe half the shit I see. And yeah, I was
curious a couple of times when I was waiting to
find out. I'll say this, the format's a little challenging
for an audience because most of us, especially us, were
more plugged in probably than many We pretty much knew
right off the bads like oh yea that's fake. No, no,

(01:07:22):
that that's real. But they had they had a couple
of regulars from Gutfeld shows sitting and trying to convince
them something's real, something's not. You know, they were trying
to lobby them and joke with them. They had news
personalities come on and give segments and you had to
determine if they were real or not. Kind of interesting

(01:07:44):
to see this though, like when they throw just like
some crazy batshit stories at them and they got to go.
And the worst I think was when there was like
four news items and they had to pick the one fake.
And they did it like the old Christmas game. You know,
you go first, this is your news story. You want
to keep it or you want to steal theirs, you

(01:08:06):
know that kind of thing. Yeah, so it got a
little fun that one story. So it was like a
white elephant game. You know that you get box number one.
What's your story? Do you want to do? You like
it not? Box number two? Then he could switch or
hang on to it, and then the first guy can
make a decision to choose which one was fake. After all,
it was like wow. And then when somebody was eliminated,

(01:08:28):
they gave them a news item about their own family
and they had to determine if it was real or
not see if they can win a consolation prize. It's
like your wife flipped the car in the snow, think
it happened or not? And he's like she is a
bad driver, Goad, that's a tough one. But yeah, this

(01:08:51):
this is gonna be tough to get people to sign
on for this for a second episode. It is my point.
I mean i'd do it, but yeah, it could. But
I think the fact that they brought him out there,
I don't know if they knew the entire format at
the beginning. They were a little fuzzy on it. They
spent a lot of time at the house. Dude, that

(01:09:12):
was kind of aggravating. I got to see a streamer
over the weekend and I don't think it was final cut,
but like they asked the question and then it was
like five minutes spent with them living in the house.
It was like, are we going to get back to
the games and let's do this. But your concept, the
interesting concept, I think gut Fell is the right one
for it. I don't know that he's going to be

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knocking Drew Carey or Jeopardy off the top of the
charts with them.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
I mean, it's really something you can only do once
a quarter. I mean, you're going to be putting up
a lot of these houses somewhere, and a Fox doesn't
have the money to do it. So yeah, I mean
the allow of the person I think who could have
pulled this one off would have been loftus, could have
been cool, could have been cool.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
Sure, yeah, he's got that character that wouldn't work. Yeah,
but it's you know, well, we'll see if more develops.
I'm I'm learly, I'm doubtful.

Speaker 4 (01:10:06):
I don't think so cautiously optimistic.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
Mm. Well, next for streamers and such. And we were
talking about Max and all that. They're actually talking about
bringing back CNN subscription. That's still a thing. I can't
believe it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
Are they gonna come out with NFTs again. I hope
they come out with NFTs again.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
After the meltdown of CNN plus there's they're going back
to that now. They're they're getting ready to ramp that up. Kay, guys,
good on you. But CNN mania a little politically or
but not heavily so. CNN's Jake Tapper has a book
coming out next week. No the hell you say? Yeah,

(01:10:50):
I know, I've I've heard something about it. It's a
couple of people have been talking about it forever. Everybody
is and it's cracking me up. He and Alex Thompson
a vaccine they're gonna do the big expose, the big
splash reveal about what really happened during the twenty four
election last year and Joe Biden. I can tell you

(01:11:11):
what happened. You ass faces led your asses off about Joe.
That's what happened.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
Everybody saw it, but even you saw it. But you're
gonna pretend you didn't. So you're blaming it on staffers
hiding it all from you because you know the first
election he ran from a basement.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
Yeah, it wasn't any he didn't see this coming. It's
just wow, what do you know? I need to push
ups and fistfights. I mean, this has not gone well.
I mean it's going to sell big, let's there's no
way around it. They're going to be top of the
charge next week. But I think long term this is
going to be damaging because anything that's getting revealed all

(01:11:51):
of the news and there's news outlets reporting on it.
Oh my gosh, did you know George Clooney got offended
at the fundraiser? Oh did you know Joe Biden was
going to be in a wheelchair if he won the
second term? Oh wow, didn't you guys know this already?
You should have it's your job.

Speaker 4 (01:12:10):
I mean the phrase President silver alert before he was
even inaugurated.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
Oh yeah, President of Room. I've been using President silver
Alert incessantly.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
Now it's just to thank you for that attribution would
be nice, but you know you did mention the show
in your article.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
So it's it's just patently ridiculous. And every day something
new is coming out to discredit the guys that wrote
this book. I mean, just today I saw Jake Tapper
talk to a couple of reporters from Wall Street Journal
who dared report on Joe Biden's condition inside the White
House like a week or two before the debate. Uh,

(01:12:53):
He's talking to them, and just let me just say,
you two are heroes for reporting this, and I I'm
just disgusted with the way the Democrats have attacked you,
how they discredited you because you work at the Wall
Street Journal. This is just horrible. I found Jake Tapper
on the lead the day that article came out. Well,

(01:13:14):
you know, we have to doubt this story because it
comes from the Wall Street Journal, you know, a Murdoch
owned outlet, and they only spoke to Republicans. Just to
give you a hint on how this is. And now
to discuss the article didn't have on the reporters. Chris
Coons is going to come on and talk about what
a piece of shit this article is. All the things

(01:13:35):
he just carved about in their interview yesterday he did
when the article came out. I mean, it's that asinine.
So this has been going on.

Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
See Jake Tapper's never actually met Jake Tapper.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
It's just man, when you watch your own show, you
are going to be in for surprise, buddy. I'm just
gonna tell you. But thankfully les go. We saw him
sitting in a theater, kicking back arm over the back
of the chairs. He spoke languidly and freely with the
actor George Clooney. That was the most insufferable shit I've

(01:14:10):
ever witnessed. This would be the George Clooney who held
the Gala fundraiser for Joe Biden. The George Clooney who
then weeks later called for Joe Biden to step down,
and the George Clooney who, after the election was dismayed
the Kamala Harris lost and was angry that people were
blaming him and then said I'm going to step away

(01:14:33):
from politics and not mention it, and then sat down
with Jake Tapper to talk politics. I'm yeah, the man
is the favorite though is I was did a piece
on him yesterday researching it. I didn't even see this
at the time. He did the voice over for a

(01:14:56):
Kamala Harris ad where they tried to convince Maga voters
to secretly vote for Kamala. Yeah, did you see this?
Uh it is? I remember it. I didn't know that was.

(01:15:16):
I remember the spot.

Speaker 4 (01:15:17):
I don't remember that being clooney.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
Yeah. So basically, it's three middle aged guys forties or
fifties beards. One's got to do rag, one's got the
hat on, you know, the rough dribes, you know, Maga dad,
and the I think the voiceover began was like, come Tuesday,
when you and your mega buddies are gonna vote, just

(01:15:40):
remember that you can vote any way you choose and
nobody needs to know. So he's convincing Maga to secretly
vote for Kamala and the guys like at the at
the voting desk and he's got them things up and
his buddies were like, we're gonna make a different We're
gonna make a credit good, aren't we bump, and then

(01:16:03):
the guy dramatically turns to his right over his shoulder
and sees his daughter of five years old and waves
at him, Hi, daddy, make the right decision. Nobody needs
to know your vote, and they show him scrawling the
bubble for Kamala. Your vote makes a difference, don't vote wrong.

(01:16:29):
It's basically the message. So this is Gluony, an absolute lost,
a drifted individual. I want to point out he's at
the fundraiser. One of the big breaks from the book
was he walked up to Joe Biden and Biden didn't
recognize who he was. Buddies that they've been all these years.

Speaker 4 (01:16:48):
Yeah, that's just poetic justice.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
Well already, I'm I'm a little I'm a little offended
that you're making fun here because this shook George Cloney
to his core, I'll have you know. Yes, that's why
I'm laughing. He was so shaken that he didn't come
out and say anything about what he saw at this fundraiser. Yeah, now,

(01:17:15):
everybody might be thinking, wait a second, didn't he write
that up ed, didn't he call for Joe Biden to
step down? Yes, he did. Nearly a month later, after
the debate when they could no longer bude Joe Biden's condition. Yes,
that's when he came out with it. Yeah, tell then
he was riding with Biden. It was like all the

(01:17:38):
news reports are covering that too. It's like, oh my gosh,
George Clooney saw this. Oh he was just destroyed by this.
And did he say anything? No, didn't, didn't didn't come
out with this. How are we finding about it almost
a year later? Is my question. If this is so
earth shattering, there's your problem. So why was Jed Tapper

(01:18:01):
into theater speaking with George. Well, it turns out George
Clooney is on Broadway as we speak. Yes, he was
the star of the movie. Oh no, I'm sorry. He
directed the movie good Night and Good Luck right, all
about journalism in the fifties, the Red Scare era, and

(01:18:27):
basically how journalists triumphed over politics. Now, when the movie
came out, they patterned the storyline despite the fact that
it's accurate, real based on history, but they kind of
tailored after the George Bush era and the war effort.

(01:18:48):
Pretty much, this whole thing is adjuncate prop on how
journalists need to go after them. Damn Republicans. So yeah,
if you thought the newsroom.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
Was self important, indulgent, bullshit, man, your bar is set low,
because wait till you see this ship.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
Yeah, this is I They they love to always bring
up the fact that George Clooney is the son of
a journalist himself. Okay, it doesn't make him a journalist,
does it. I mean, I've been told I'm not a journalist,

(01:19:37):
even though I've been doing journalism for a couple of
decades now. But but okay, but now he's at the
Winter Garden Theater pretending to be a journalist on stage,
so he's more qualified.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
Old ads of I'm not a doctor, but I play
one on TV pretty much, but I play one on Broadway.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
Yes, he's pretending to be Edward R. Murrow and all
of the travill's. He went through by going head to
head with the Republican Joseph McCarthy during the Red Scare,
and he won, so naturally they tried it out when
there's a Republican president. Hey, George Bush is ruining the country,

(01:20:23):
let's go get him. And now it's Donald Trump, so
there you go. But Jake Tapper sat in with him
so they could discuss this. You know. The part that
cracks me up here is like George Clooney is still
looked at by those on the left as a political
savant despite always getting it wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:20:44):
Right, I'm trying, I'm trying to think of when Clooney,
I mean, Jindy Backbeto.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
I'm pretty sure he did know he was behind Hillary
lost here he was fundraising for Joe Biden. Didn't see
a need to say anything about his condition. However, then
he comes out against Joe Biden, so he forced him
off the ticket so that the Democrats would ultimately lose.

(01:21:14):
And then November he got mad and cranky because everybody
was blaming him for pushing Joe Biden off the ticket.
What do you think would happen when you went her
into politics? You don't.

Speaker 3 (01:21:25):
Here's the thing, though, is that, again, that would have
been the perfect time, when everybody was giving him shit
for hid him to say, you know what, let me
tell you what I saw, my little fundraiser and why
I did what I did. I wasn't gonna say it
at the time because there would have been this whole
embarrassing twenty fifth Amendment thing. But now that the election's
over and y'all are blaming me. Let me tell you

(01:21:46):
the shit I saw. Nope, that didn't happen then either.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
Yeah, all of it, you know, it's all coming out now,
which itself is a problem. But the whole reason we're
bringing all this up is that it turns out there
was a reason for Jake Tapper sitting with George Clooney
three weeks ago. The announcement has come out. I think today, Yes,
that first week of June on CNN, they will be

(01:22:14):
broadcasting live the next to last performance of George Clooney
and good Night and good Luck. I won't be watching.
I might. I might have to. It's in with Mike Wheelhouse,

(01:22:35):
so I might be there for that. You know, we'll
see it depends if there's a hockey game.

Speaker 3 (01:22:40):
This is just.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
This is a low rent Hamilton. I've tried twice to
watch Hamilton. Just can't. Can't just not be hate musicals
to begin with. Wrapping and bastardizing history is also distancing
for me. My thing, this one I could probably get through.

(01:23:03):
I mean, I'll be pointing out the bullshit aspects of
it left and right. Don't get me wrong, but yeah,
they're doing they're also doing a pre show on CNN,
oh and an after show as well. Much of the
discussion will center around, of course, the importance of journalism, yes,
and how up their own asses they actually are. Yes,

(01:23:27):
this is being the defamation network doing this, And I
think one of the better lines I've heard this week
is it was back in twenty twelve when Jake Tapper
quit his job at Journalism to go to work at CNN. Boom, nice,

(01:23:47):
mic drop, love it. But that's the way this is going.
Two more things to hit quick here.

Speaker 3 (01:23:56):
We've got a couple sell but yeah, I know you
got to vacate the office of seven, but we still
got some good content here, so I.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
Got a little leeway, so we'll be able to do
this and hit the ratings and then we could wrap.
So we're good coasting a little bit. But again, this
is all this calls back to us being brilliant yet
again mm hmm, the big fight.

Speaker 3 (01:24:21):
We pat ourselves on the back because you know, we're
just a little podcast that figures out the ship that
the big entertainment news outlets can't seem to figure out,
or you know a lot of the other.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
Entertainment the streamers cancing to figure out either, but we
variety deadline compressians. So we had the uh, the big
lengthy strike that took place in Hollywood and what had
already and I say repeatedly, the big sticking point was
AI and we kept saying, how in the hell are

(01:24:53):
you gonna bottle this one? Guys, The studios are gonna
screw you. No other example of the studios screwing them.
Mm hmm. This is good. This is this is fun.

Speaker 3 (01:25:07):
Netflix is going to This isn't like farming out, you know,
saying well, you know we didn't use AI, but this
SFX company, you know they did, And whether you like
it or not, you gotta call Netflix a studio now.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
Oh yeah, absolutely, They're they're a juggernaut. May not be traditional,
but they are sorry, they are the force to be
reckoned with. They're you know, over at Netflix are gradually
getting into more and more commercial play on their platform.

(01:25:44):
Now you can you know, throttle up and get it
without ads and all of that. But the upfronts are
taking place. This is the the traditional usually the Big
Vegas Review where everybody rolls out their content for the
studios to get picked up by the TV and such.
The upfront for the advertisers. The streaming leader announced it

(01:26:08):
has created interactive mid roll ads and pause ads, which yourself,
is problematic because they're supposed to be giving content to
the advertisers, as I understand it. Oops, well, in a
way they are, but their ads are going to incorporate

(01:26:31):
generative AI.

Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
Yeah, yeah, and not just it is supposedly the most
accurately targeted generative AI advertising. I mean the targeted advertising
that is going to be generated by A.

Speaker 4 (01:26:47):
The only way I think that it would be.

Speaker 3 (01:26:50):
More targeted advertising is that if there was actually a
camera on your TV and the AI said, young girl,
go home to your father.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
Yeah. The the creepy factor is getting into this as well.
But of course what they're gonna be doing is looking
at your viewing habit is, what you've liked, what you
didn't like, things of this nature, and they're, you know,
build a profile and then the ads are going to
be based on that. You see a little bit of
this attempted like on Hulu. Sometimes pull something up and

(01:27:27):
it'll be one company, but there'll be three different ads
from the company and you could choose which one to play,
right Or I'll be in the kitchen getting some food
and beer until the damn commercial's over. Right, have your
fun with it. But they are now going to be

(01:27:47):
getting more and more intrusive and personal. We're we're fast
approaching Futurama where they're gonna be advertising in our dreams. Yeah,
at least I'll know where to get back. How then, Yeah,
I'm gonna wake up and need a can of Slurm immediately.
Wonder why that is? This is but just the fact

(01:28:08):
that they're both just the studios give no fucks anymore
about AI. No, they really don't.

Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
They're just like, because you know why they got the contract,
it doesn't What are they gonna do if they Oh,
you broke a contract. Okay, you're the one who goes
out of work, not us. We got AI now we
don't need you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
Yeah, are you gonna go and strike again? Because we
have a solution ready, You're not gonna work.

Speaker 3 (01:28:33):
We've been slow rolling it in kind of like warning
shots across your bow, but uh, if I need to
be more obvious, I will.

Speaker 2 (01:28:44):
I mean it's gonna almost get to the point then
where the Screen Actors Guild will sue them and the
studios will have an AI lawyer pretty much in a
matter of seconds can pull up any court case in
cite any prior convict, and they can well says right
here in the case of the and then their lawyer

(01:29:07):
is like, shit, I.

Speaker 3 (01:29:11):
Entertainment Business News. Well AI programmers go on strike.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
Yeah, but at that point then the studio could probably say,
let the AI run all night long and it'll start
to become sentient and we won't need the programmer anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:29:27):
Yeah, it'll just you know, because basically what you have
with AI, if you haven't played with AI much, you
basically have that thousand monkeys.

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
Yeah, we had the whole family got together for Mother's
Day and one afternoon a bunch of us were playing
around with taking all our family pictures and making them
into the Simpsons. That was fun, right, nice. We all
had to kind of teach each other how to come
up with the right prompt for it, but it worked out.
It's pretty cool. But yeah, that's I just love. I'm

(01:29:58):
enjoying the studio just coming out and just not even
giving two ships anymore. Oh you you guys went on
strike about that? Yeah, don't care. That was fun though.

Speaker 3 (01:30:09):
It was cute, and we absolutely said that, you know,
they made AI such a sticky point, especially with the
uh the screen actors would sag.

Speaker 2 (01:30:19):
They made it even more than the writers did.

Speaker 3 (01:30:21):
Made such a big deal about jener of AI that
they had held up the strike for like two months
because the studios were like, no, we're not trying to
promise not to use AI, and the actors are like, oh,
you better, brand dresser, you better, and so like, okay,
we won't use AI.

Speaker 2 (01:30:42):
We're totally using AI. Well, the thing is, I've yet
to hear any significant pushback on this, Like have you
heard any of the guilds come out and go you
you can't. I'm not That's the weird thing.

Speaker 3 (01:31:00):
Yeah, you not even the writers Guild, And they should
be shitting themselves more than anything anybody else, because I mean, yeah,
you see people just dicking around on x Twitter, whatever
you want to call it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
With Grock, I mean, I've done it where I'm like,
what was one thing I did? Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:31:23):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:31:24):
I have.

Speaker 3 (01:31:26):
Two characters from Deep Space nine analyze the Hunt for
Red October in a script format set at the uh
you know, the rep ma Deep Space nine, and it
was fucking good. I don't watch the episode.

Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
How many pages did you get out of that?

Speaker 4 (01:31:43):
About page and a half. It would basically would have
been a good scene.

Speaker 3 (01:31:45):
It would have been a scene, you know, it would
be like a uh, you know, a B story scene
with Garrick and Julian.

Speaker 2 (01:31:58):
Well, we were talking about the fronts and really they're
kind of uh, I know, it's kind of a not
a downer, but just not exciting. I could summarize it
in this way. Everybody's doing sports.

Speaker 3 (01:32:14):
Yeah, I mean it used me for those Okay, we
got a new audience now that we're on X, so
they haven't been with us when we've talked about upfronts before.
Upfronts are when the studios pitch to the advertisers, this
is what we've got coming up in our fall schedule.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
How much do you want to buy?

Speaker 3 (01:32:35):
This is when also the public would find out if
their tea if there, if they hadn't heard over the summer,
if their favorite TV show got renewed, you know, if
they you know, it was kind of like and then
there would be a separate one for the consumers where
you know, like NBC, ABC or whatever, they'd have the
big fest where you you'd find out, oh yeah, right
on my cartoons coming back on Saturday mornings or you know,

(01:32:56):
Cosby's coming back, shit like that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
So yeah, they would bring up the stars and they
would you know, the established shows, they'd bring out their
heavy weights and it's like waves of the crowd, and
every network had their slot for a couple hours, and
then daytime they would have you know, the cable nets
and the news networks and this and that, and they
would come out and schmooze and if it was a
news show just debuting this fall, all kinds of graphics,

(01:33:21):
light show music.

Speaker 3 (01:33:23):
Starting this famous guy you've heard of before, and it
was just remember him from such TV shows as.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
Tri mccarth, you know. And then of course after hours
it's all just a big jerk fest with the advertisers.
Take them up to the penthouse. Hey you want to
broad want some shipping, I'll give it to you. Hey,
you know, but I need a commitment for fourteen weeks
out of you. Yeah, that kind of thing. So it's
just it was Vegas, what are you going to go.

Speaker 3 (01:33:49):
In and first break on uh, you know Cosby, and
then I'll give you five spots on.

Speaker 4 (01:33:55):
A different world or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
Well, if you want me to spend that much, I
need a four way right, just checked out now, it's just, uh,
we got football coming, and of course the athletes are like,
it's not my contract, I'm not going.

Speaker 4 (01:34:11):
So, I mean, you know when it says a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:34:16):
When the big feature, the big name to come out
was Roger Goodell, who did it for both Netflix and
uh NBC.

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
Well that's just it. It's uh, he's the money guy
for the owners, so of course he's going to go
out there. And because he asked to get all the
new billion dollar contracts, why not.

Speaker 4 (01:34:39):
I like how it how Netflix made him wear a
red Santa jacket.

Speaker 2 (01:34:45):
He's such a whore. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:34:49):
Fox had Tom Brady, Derek Jeter, but it was all sports.
I mean, I if you looked at it, there is
no broadcast television anymore. There's no news, there's no scripted programs.
All of them are just sports networks.

Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
Now. Oh yeah, well we you know we covered it.
What last year we had that rundown. The top ninety
five rated programs were NFL games. The next three or
four were some college the Kentucky Derby. The only non
sports to break was the I think the Oscars.

Speaker 3 (01:35:24):
No, no, no, no, no, it was something I want
to say. It was something even like because nobody watched
the Oscars. Nobody's watched the Oscars in years.

Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
It was something like that, but not that it was
like they were in ninety six. I mean literally, it
was that bad.

Speaker 3 (01:35:40):
And the first yeah, a Oakland Raiders game beat out
every show on broadcast television.

Speaker 2 (01:35:49):
Oh yeah, the first broadcast showed up. I think it
was sixteen minutes and they were like one hundred and
twenty six. Yes, I will be called in the drenk
before I call them to Vegas. Raiders take a stand, buddy,
way to be. So yeah, that's the state of broadcast anymore.
And it's just, uh, that's the reality. And so the

(01:36:12):
upfronts and it kind of suck. Yeah, you guys want
to go to a buffet with Terry Bradshaw. I think
my wife's coming in act, I'll get them ten minutes, Frank,
what you got? All right? Well we can wrap this
up with the ratings. See what Nielsen has for the
streamers two or quick hits one the brands again, Oh

(01:36:35):
that's right, Yeah, you wanted to hit that. Yeah, I
wanted to hit this one real quick.

Speaker 3 (01:36:39):
So I love Twitter Twitter feuds between brands. TGI Fridays
comes out and says, somebody tell Chili, you know, the
little Chili emoji, to.

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
Stay in the lane. Y'all got mozzarella stick plate? People,
we are? That's it. That's the tweet.

Speaker 3 (01:36:56):
Chili's replies at us next time. Also, we honestly didn't
know you were still open. Congratulations. Just a lot of
salt being from between these.

Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
Do I love? Which I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:37:11):
I would chill these on that one because the last
time I saw a TGI Fridays, I think it was
at the mall when I was a college freshman in
Palm Desert.

Speaker 2 (01:37:23):
Now we got one by us. Still it's outside the mall,
and I think they're lagging, yeah, because I kind of
almost not quite across the street from my regular hangout,
which is just a little shithole, and I think we
have a larger crowd on any given Friday than they do.
It's just amazing. I don't fucking die. I just I

(01:37:46):
couldn't see this exchange, of course, without thinking of super Troopers. Right,
let's go, what's that place with the ship on the
wall and the Mazzarella sticks? TGI Fridays? What you mean?
Shenanigan's all right, love that scene, but it works, Yeah,

(01:38:07):
they're uh, they're getting salty with each other. So that
was pretty cool. I always love to see it. I'd
like to see when our corporations have a personality.

Speaker 3 (01:38:16):
You know, Windy's and Stakeems were two of the best
brands on Twitter.

Speaker 2 (01:38:20):
Early stakems used to be Oh yeah, I mean these
these companies are hilarious, or I should say they're a
nineteen year old intern slugging red bulls at the computer.

Speaker 3 (01:38:29):
And hey, I've never been followed by circle k proper,
but I have been followed by circle k Ireland, so
that says something.

Speaker 2 (01:38:39):
I guess behind a circle gay means something else in Ireland.
Oh no, they know all about it, and it's uh,
probably not.

Speaker 3 (01:38:48):
I said, yeah, nobody's seeing my tweets right now, and
they popped in and said, we're seeing you.

Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
They're that location must not be in the Catholic section,
then okay, cool Northern Ireland. The body lasses with the
A K, the A R tens are. I will say
that I am followed by Cinnabon and I was always
man Remember years ago when I had the naked lady
on the block of cheese, Yeah yeah, Velveta never followed me.

(01:39:22):
Those bastards. I even you know, I tried prompt them
a few times. I responded to their tweets and stuff.
It was like, hey, take a look, I have a
talk check it out. Check it out. I guess they
don't like mel Ramo's art. He's sorry, you're such blind heathens. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:39:41):
Also, real quick, this is this is just a upfront
something to look for. Uh, they are rebooting Buffy.

Speaker 2 (01:39:50):
Well I did see. I had drawn up my list.

Speaker 3 (01:39:54):
But yeah, so this even has uh, this has the
blessing of Sarah Michelle Geller behind it too.

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
Ryan ker Armstrong. You you might know her.

Speaker 3 (01:40:03):
You might have seen her in Star Wars, Skeleton Crew, Firestarter,
and she's actually done a lot for just being fifteen. Anyway,
they've cast her to be uh the new Buffy, and.

Speaker 2 (01:40:17):
Yeah, she looks apart. So wasn't she the one that
the the Razzi's got in trouble for nominating her for
being a bad actress.

Speaker 3 (01:40:28):
Yeah, because she actually wasn't a bad actress.

Speaker 2 (01:40:30):
It was just a bad plot. Yeah, I mean movie sock,
don't get me wrong, but don't blame the kid, Come
on right exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:40:39):
Yeah, she's also the uh yeah, thanks Jeff Sarah Michelle
Geller is also the executive producer and is reprising her
role as Buffy.

Speaker 2 (01:40:47):
This is the next generation of Slayer. She's passing the steak, yes,
as it were, okay, and that cool little acts thing. Okay, whatever, right,
Neilson's so we're going to start off.

Speaker 3 (01:41:09):
What's Smith the part of the show that always baffles
us to the most.

Speaker 2 (01:41:13):
Yeah, we always come across something that just doesn't make sense,
probably right off the bat here. I'm a little confused
by this one. Black mirror came up at the top.
I mean, I've heard good things. I don't think we've
seen it at the number one slot before.

Speaker 3 (01:41:29):
I don't think they're coming out with a new episode
or a new season, because usually when you see an
old show pick up like this, Yeah, then you'll see everybody,
you know, they'll watch all the previous seasons to catch
up again. And as far as I know, I haven't
heard anything.

Speaker 2 (01:41:44):
Tease. I may be wrong, could be yeah, I haven't
watched it. Now. I did watch this one number two,
Ransom Canyon. This is kind of a Netflix attempt at Yellowstone,
I'm gonna say, but a little tamer, more family oriented, Okay,
but not too bad. Here's the thing in our house.

(01:42:07):
I watched like three or four episodes with the wife.
Anytime I try to re you know, it's like, hey,
you want to watch the next one. You're like, I'm
not going to move. I just need a comedy. So
this goes on for a few days, and then about
a week or two later, Hey, you want to do
Ransom Canton. Oh yeah, I gotta go back to the beginning.
I have no idea what happened every time. Every time
is so like I'm I'm on episode fourteen. I think

(01:42:31):
of high potential. I've left her behind forget because we've
gone back and watched the first four again. I was like,
I know who did it, but I don't say. But
The Handmaid's Tale has come back at number three Hulu's
prime offering. I guess I'm actually surprised I've not seen

(01:42:52):
more Handmade Tale protests yet.

Speaker 3 (01:42:55):
But I think it's because I, I personally have taken
all the piss out of that because I was Prom's
hand aid in twenty twenty five. I said Project twenty
twenty five was they said Project twenty twenty five. Everybody, Yeah,
they were gonna make Handmaidens of them all, where's my
fucking handmaidens?

Speaker 2 (01:43:09):
Yeah, I got see. I go a different route when
they say, oh, just what conservatives want, and then I
just flood them with like a dozen shots of girls
wearing Maga bikinis and thong underwear and stuff like that,
with Maga hats on and this this is ours, this
is our gilliad.

Speaker 3 (01:43:26):
So uh, you got it wrong, just saying yeah, that's
they all, y'all approves, that's your uh, that's your alphabet.

Speaker 2 (01:43:33):
People kind of the guard there. I'm I'm gonna take
a dime, but doing the Kegs stand over there in
the red, white and blue bikini, that's what I want there.
So sorry, all right, cut her over there. That's what
Maga wants. I mean, you can go to Florida here
on the lake and you're gonna see nothing but Trump flags. Anyway,
You're not gonna see red smocks and white bonnets on board.

(01:43:54):
Just saying all right, number four love on the spectrum
net us because it needs a uh oh, I don't
want to confuse it with the other people on the
spectrum in other countries that are having love affairs. Yes, yeah,
that's the thing. The pit on Max soon to be

(01:44:15):
HBO Max.

Speaker 3 (01:44:18):
Right, that's the only thing that is not well, okay,
that's you got a Hulu too, But everything is Netflix
and Prime this week.

Speaker 2 (01:44:25):
Yeah, I mean the Pit is getting a lot of traction.
I was one of those hospital dramas. The Residence has
plummeted from the top slot down to number seven. Then
it's at six. Excuse me, number seven is Glass Dome.
Then the Wheel of Time Prime hits it also with
Reacher at nine and at ten. Mobland is getting a
lot of uh, getting a lot of good talk. I

(01:44:47):
gotta say, there's been a lot of people were even
about that one.

Speaker 3 (01:44:50):
Here's the thing I'm not getting with this list too,
the disparity between number one and everything else. So we
talked about Black Mirror. Pretty sure there isn't another season
coming out, don't know one hundred percent certain on that
one point five billion minutes watched. The next closest one
is Ransom Canyon with just over a billion. I mean

(01:45:12):
that's and then you're getting down into the five hundred millions.
I why is everybody watching Black Mirror again?

Speaker 2 (01:45:18):
Please? Somebody explain it to me. Chat let me know. Yeah,
it's weird, right, but can't argue with Nielsen. They wouldn't.
They know what they're doing, So I'm not here to
question all. Right over on the movie side of things,
Mowana tu tops it off, Tucker, Yeah, I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:45:38):
See that million, four hundred million minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:45:42):
That's low. Yeah, but it's movies too, so it's uh,
I don't know. They don't. They don't do as much
repeat as the programming. They don't do it on repeat.
It will be one time and gone. We'll watch it tomorrow.
G twenty on Prime. Yeah, I hostage. We watched this

(01:46:03):
one mm hmm. Tried to big hostage situation takes place
in an apple store, Okay, And I'm watching this whole
thing and the painting is a little bit off. It's
like this it's a Dutch movie. That's the thing. Takes
place in Amsterdam and they did voiceover and it's like

(01:46:23):
I started seeing some stuff. It's like, wait, that isn't
what and yet it's this popular what's up? I don't
get it. Number four is Passion of the Christ Easter.
There's your answer? Why? Oh yeah, Easter? This is you know,
we're talking about Easter week, Oklahoma City bombing one day

(01:46:44):
in America on Netflix. One of their documentaries, The Accountant
Hits because The Accountant Too has just come out. Uh huh,
Despicable before that was that was the hot one. Yeah,
that's the only thing you're gonna see from Peacock anymore.
Wicked the Crudes. Where did that come from? Did they

(01:47:08):
just pick it up? That must be the case maybe,
and then life was something like it. Yeah, Netflix, they
probably just picked it up.

Speaker 3 (01:47:19):
Here's the thing is going to I guarantee as much
as we taught, as bad as all the press was
about Wicked, and there are numerous and sundry fuck ups
like uh, the Wicked dot com thing, I guarantee you

(01:47:40):
when snow White hits streaming like regular, not.

Speaker 2 (01:47:45):
Just you know, pay per view.

Speaker 4 (01:47:47):
Or you know, rental, Wicked is going to continue to
beat the fuck out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:52):
Oh yeah, it's like a problem with that at all.

Speaker 4 (01:47:57):
It's like, you know, rooting for somebody at the Special Olympics.

Speaker 2 (01:48:03):
Well, the thing is this Wicked's the Wicked fan base is.
They're the ones that are gonna watch this repeatedly. Yeah,
they've learned all the songs, they sing along with it,
and they're basically the Mowana crowd. But grown up.

Speaker 3 (01:48:18):
Yeah, we're never gonna see the snow white streaming numbers
because it'll never make the top ten.

Speaker 2 (01:48:25):
Ever. Pretty certain that's gonna be the case, all right.
The acquired series Gray's Anatomy has managed to edge out Bluie.

Speaker 3 (01:48:36):
For the top spot, but not by a lot, and
again Easter.

Speaker 2 (01:48:40):
Mm hmm. Then you got the last of us n
cis Young Sheldon Family Guy, the rookie White Lotus. I
swear I don't get that, and everybody loves it. Knock
yourselves out, SpongeBob and Bob's Burgers, Bear Moobs, what about it?
All right? So who makes the overall list again? Not

(01:49:02):
even close categories everything going black, Mirror and then Ransom Canyon.
Gray's Anatomy breaks it up at number three with Bluey.
Then a lot of the acquireds hit it. Last of
us n cis Handmaid's Tale is number seven, Young Sheldon
family guy and the rookie rounds it out. That's what

(01:49:24):
everybody's watching on.

Speaker 3 (01:49:26):
You know what I'm picking up from looking at this
list just with the how low all the numbers are. Well,
it was great Easter weekend and families were together and outside.

Speaker 2 (01:49:37):
Mm hmm. Yeah, nobody.

Speaker 3 (01:49:40):
Yeah, when you have a half billion minutes between first
and second place and then everything else is sub a billion,
you don't see those kind of numbers really.

Speaker 2 (01:49:48):
Yeah, nobody hit two billion. And yeah, for the most part,
it was a week list. Yeah, and there really wasn't
anything barnstorming in theaters four weeks ago. I mean snow,
I was still in the theaters. You didn't hear what
I said, did you? All Right, that's gonna do it

(01:50:10):
for us. I think we spilled all the jam that
we had to give out, so orty, why don't you
let everybody know where they can find more of you?

Speaker 3 (01:50:19):
Well, thank you for asking, Brad. You can find me
surprisingly still on Twitter as Ordnance Packard.

Speaker 2 (01:50:24):
You can find me.

Speaker 3 (01:50:25):
This weekend I will be on the Vincent Charles project
with Jeff and Vincent Charles and maybe some others as
we continue on our self torture of reviewing the Russian
version of The Hobbit. Several weeks ago, we did the
Russian version of the Lord of the Rings and I
was not going to leave the saga untold, so I

(01:50:47):
suggested to Vincent, we need to watch it. And because
I hate myself, apparently.

Speaker 2 (01:50:53):
You can find that's it for this week.

Speaker 3 (01:50:54):
Next week you can find me Tuesday night on the
Manorama Panel on right of course Steve's channel, or right
here on Calrain Radio dot com Wednesday night, Rick and
already that's and then next Saturday you can find me
on Juxtaposition with Rick.

Speaker 2 (01:51:10):
How about you, Brad?

Speaker 3 (01:51:11):
Where can people find all of your magnificence condensed down
into a couple minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:51:16):
Really after what you've just unspooled? And you're gonna give
me that grief? I am available daily over at town
Hall dot com. I've got a media column there, it's
called Rift from the Headlines, tearing into the outmoded media complex.
Also a regular on the front page Red State, where
I've got a twice weekly podcast of my own, it's
called Liable Sources, going even deeper into the swamp land

(01:51:38):
of our press core. And you can hear more of
me on this network as well. Next Thursday, I'm gonna
be here with Paul Young from Screenerant dot com. He
and I do coverage of the dark side of Hollywood,
back alleyways and ugliness and the entertainment with bad movies
on disasters into making Tuesday Nights I'm here with the

(01:51:58):
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(01:52:20):
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Speaker 3 (01:52:25):
All right, ordy, guys, real quick too for an episode
of disasters in the making.

Speaker 2 (01:52:33):
We've got.

Speaker 3 (01:52:34):
Now that we've got Corynamic on the network with us,
ask him if he would be on your show to
talk about solar crisis.

Speaker 2 (01:52:42):
Hmmm, you don't think he'd be offended? Well, just ask,
I mean, I mean that's a good idea, that's a
good id. Come on, yes, exactly. I'll start with Burt Gummers,
Like you know who's been on our show. Yeah, we
Bert Gummer on to talk about Tremor seven. So I

(01:53:05):
guess we might be able to bring him back since
we're doing a TV show soon. Oh, that's right, that
could be a thing. Huh. I'll have to have my
people call his or my person I'll have to call
his people, is what it comes down to. That might
right now. We'll definitely keep it in mind that a
good idea, good idea. All right, guys, We will be

(01:53:26):
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