The Culture Shift w/ Brad and Ordy: The Affiliate Hunger Games!

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Speaker 2 (00:32):
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Speaker 3 (00:57):
And Hello out to everybody in k l and Land.
This is Thursday night, which means it's your early introduction
to the weekend. This is the culture shift. How the
hell is everybody doing on? Brad Slager getting ready to
escort you through all of the gilded sidewalks of Hollywood
and all the vital entertainment information going on. But I'm

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not doing it by myself because every fortnight joining me
on this venture is America's most laser focused and digitized
Amish individual, Orty Packer, And what the hell is going
on tonight? Just I aren't just spinning.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
I can tell you I don't think my penis has
ever been so erect.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
The visuals cakes immediately here.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
I can hammer a six inch spike through a two
by four with my penis.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
That is yes, we've had a rare dose of good news.
Let's just say in the past week.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
So that's how's everything with you out in America's wang.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Doing good, doing good? It's uh just you know, we're
we're dealing with the mayhem and just put the deflector
shields up and moving forward and just doing everything we
can to uh to endure. It's so it's really you know, actually,
Jeff and I just before the show, I was just saying,
I'm waiting for the country to stop being stupid, and

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I don't think that's possible.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
It's, ah, my friend, I've been waiting my thirty years
for that.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yeah, and that's probably a case of wishful thinking or
me being just mister positive.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
But yeah, look at the look at you the optimist.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah, I got accuse it out all the time. But
it's just at some point in time you would think,
and again this is my my curse of pragmatism, that
I have some point we would just get off the
emotional throttle and start looking at things in a pragmatic fashion.
Maybe you know, I'm a dreamer, That's what I am, Ordie.

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But where you're uh, we're just in the SA say.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
You're a dreamer. You're not the only one.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Oh, I know, I know, I wish. I wish that
worked the case, but it is so. Yes, this is
basically our first episode since the I'm not going to
call it a tragedy, since the absolutely monstrous assassination of
Charlie Kirk and the fallout has just been something to

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behold because it's it's across the spectrum. I mean, it's
taken place in our media spectrum, it's taken place in entertainment,
it's taken place pretty much day to day ever since.
And I don't know, is human decency just too much
to ask of human beings?

Speaker 4 (04:01):
There are there's an element of American culture that has
never been told no and has never been punched in
the face, and two whole generations of it. And you
can tell that they have never faced repercussions because they

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use their real names and everything, and they think that
being completely abhorrent is perfectly okay on their main account.
There was a time back in the early days of
the interwebs that even the left would know, don't talk
shit on your main They would have a sock. Just

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like very few of us who aren't in the media
or public figures all use you know, fake names avs.
We don't post our shit on Maine unless we you know,
because the left hotsy. Unless you have nothing to lose
or you need it professionally, don't put your name out there.

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But they have become so brazen that they're doing this
shit in their real name, and they are completely amazed
that there are repercussions for that.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yeah, accountability is something that they've never really come across
in the dictionary, even though it's in the first part.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Yeah, it's early on.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
They seem rather shocked that, you know, real life can
bring repercussions, you know, like your actions can lead to something.
And yeah, it's part of what you said that they've
never you know, had a throat punch for acting like
an antisocial individual. But also we're probably talking about cowardly

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agoraphobics who are a completely different person behind a keyboard
than they are into.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
Yeah, much grass for the first time in your life.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
And also they cleave to the same political side of
things as the entertainment industry, as the media, and so
accountability of repercussions don't usually come into play because everybody's
on the same side and we all we all with you. Well,
that's all ended. As we've talked about numerous times ever
since basically Donald Trump's assassination attempt on him, his country

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has made a turn. And one, the other side's not
putting up with this crap anymore, and two they're willing
to play the same game now. And that's what's leading
to all of the strife and the two supports that
we're seeing across the social right because people on the
writers saying, well, you know what, it's high time that
we do the same thing. We tried to be nice.

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He didn't want us to be nice, and now you
basically have killed the nicest person on our side. So
clearly you don't want nice, and I'm here to tell
you don't want what else is still remaining as they're
finding out daily basis, Yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Mean, you would think with the rapidity of which they
found out how good we actually are at accountability culture,
they wouldn't want to dabble in incrementalism.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
It is. It's been amazing to watch though, because you know,
since it was it was last Wednesday when Charlie Kirk's
life was taken from him, and pretty much immediately, you know,
Aggie and I talked about the other night because over
at Red's Day, where a town hall. Media were part
of Salem, which Charlie Kirk was, So this hit us
close to home very much and been watching this ardently

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up front the but the reaction has been pretty immediate.
The thing I found amazing was how many entities outside
of the right were actually taken accountability, Like Matthew Dowd
got kicked off of NBC within a matter of hours,
and other businesses and such were firing people for being

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complete antisocial animals and cheering an assassination. And I'm sorry
most sectors of America don't approve of that. No, let's
just say you were to go to go to work
one day and say, you know what, you know, killing
people I don't like is not that bad a thing.
I'm pretty sure HR is going to get involved at
some point in your day, right.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
And the thing is you would think, again, with the
quickness that they have dispatched, doubt that others would take heed.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah, because one of the first reactions to all of
this is, oh my god, the people on the right
are canceling. No, we're still kind of grieving and dealing
with what happened. We're not out there lobbying for this.
I mean it's coming, don't get me wrong, but I
mean it's still Wednesday night, Thursday morning. We're trying to
put together what happened here. You know, we're dealing with
ourselves right now, not you. So this was all taking

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place without provocation. Yeah, and then the provocation came. People
started building lists, and they started posting videos of people
cheering an assassination and saying other things, and yeah, that
started to whip saw on many people. And we just

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saw two a day or so ago. Washington Posts dismissed
one of their editors because she was out there. Well,
she was just saying a ton of things about Charlie
Kirk that were a we're not accurate, be entirely race based. Yeah,
he hated black women and he said this, and she's

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putting them in quotation marks, highly inaccurate words that never
left Charlie Kirk's mouth.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Yeah, and she.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Then I had to say that she got fired because
of racism. It's like, no, honey, you're an alleged journalist
and you basically committed an ethical breach of your profession.
I can see it right here. I'm looking at it.
This queen ain't gonna be quiet and you're not going
to have me stripping down to my ashen. Okay, wait,

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and I'll know the.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Less I know you think that the Society Professional journal
Journalists Code of Ethics is really just a guideline, but yeah, uh,
at least acknowledge its existence.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Now, the prevailing thought is that's that's something that exists
primarily to be leveled against the right in media. So
Fox News, Townhall media and others. We all have to
prescribe to this, not so much those on the left,
meaning most of the rest of the media. But it's
just been amazing to watch this. This is plain now.

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You know, teachers and other professions are all, you know,
having to deal with this. How many teachers have lost
jobs in the last week. How many times have we
seen students expelled for acting like complete animals? And it's
all they keep falling on the same thing. My free speech,
my First Amendment rights, I'm allowed to do this. It's like, great,

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and we're a private business or we're a private institution,
then we're allowed to fire you or kick you out.
I mean, that's that's what they're grappling with right now.
Is that that whole accountability thing you talked about they're
not used to this, and I don't know. I think,
as far as a juxtaposition, if we just go back

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a year ago, what do we see playing out on
college campuses, pro Palestinian idiots acting like complete animals and
getting away with it. And it's pretty stark that we're
seeing this kind of retribution and take place immediately for
these kind of words. I'm kind of struck by that.

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So did I lose alorady or am I lost? No?

Speaker 5 (12:15):
I think I actually tapped.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
I actually tapped, and I did not mean to. Yeah,
it's uh, I'm just you know, if the stats are
to be believed from the couple of the websites, up
to almost eleven hundred people have now found themselves gainfully unemployed.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
It's I mean, it's encouraging. I guess I'm not a
big canceled individual to begin with, and I'm definitely not
against I'm not in favor of censorship, and yet I'm
how do I describe it? I guess my position softened
a little bit for this reason that they continue to

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do it at some point in time, you know, like
they were talking about all the time, you know, turn
the other cheek and this and it's like, no, at
some point you get to speak your tooth in their
face and start swinging because we've endoor and I've seen
people even today. Oh, there's been no canceling in censorship,

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have been no other administration has done this, And it's like, hello,
let me introduce you to Joe Biden and Barack Obama.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
Yeah, let me take you back over the last ten
to fifteen years since Gamergate. You know, I mean, if
I mean, if you just want to go oh, well,
you know, babla, those are just you know, I mean,
this is you got that guy who you got the
scientist actual rocket science, spent his whole career figuring out

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how to land a satellite on an asteroid. What should
have been the greatest day of his life. Mission accomplished.
They canceled him for wearing a Hawaiian shirt that had
women on it. And that shirt was made by a
female friend of his.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah. Yeah, that had him balling.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
In tears on his knees, begging for it to stop.
And I'm not being metaphoric. You can find the video
of that.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
I mean literally been to knee and yes, and somebody
who's been on the right, you know, we we didn't
really cower so much as we just kind of stopped
talking and ignored it. But now we've reached the phase
we're hitting back. You have to, because somebody today was
kind of berating me about it. You're supposed to be

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against us. It's like I've always been against it. I've
been against it since the start. I've been against it
up until last month. It doesn't stop. So at some
point in time you gotta start hitting back. And they're old, well,
that just means everything's gonna get worse. It's like, okay, well,
if we don't do it, it just means we're gonna
be the ones trampled on while everything gets worse. At

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least this way we hold some grounds. He's this way,
this is how you get corrective action after a while.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
Yes, maybe you'll have a moment of pause. Yes, I
said much to the other day. Tried to call me
a hypocrite because somebody posted their street in the thread
where he was just being a jackass because he couldn't
just say he couldn't condemn the violence without about Charlie Kirk,
without putting in all these moral relativism and what abautism's

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in it? Right, So I you know, he's all, well,
you're hypocrites because you know you don't condemn doxing. I said,
I used to condemn doxing. Now my condemnation is not
retweeting it.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Yeah, you did participation, and it was really with amusement.
I'm watching throughout the weekend. Well, you conservatives are supposed
to be against cancel culture. All right, let's analyze your
statement there, shall we. You know, if you're saying I'm
being hypocritical, now, doesn't that mean I have to be

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hypocritical about something that has already transpired. I e. You've
been doing it and we told you to stop, and
we warned you that it wasn't going to be pretty
when you face it. Well today you're facing it.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
Well, whenever anybody says you're supposed to be against council culture,
I'll say, well, allow me to quote your darling of
the entertainment industry, George Takai. It's not cancel culture, it's
accountability culture.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yes exactly.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
LaVar Burton also said the same thing.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
So and now they don't. I think I said it
with Rick on his show last Friday, that we're the
point now where we're going to engage in a Lensky
inception where we're going to play Olinsky's rules and we're
going to hold you accountable at the same time, which
is one of the other rules. But that's the thing

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is they they're like, well, you're not supposed to cancel
and the dot dot dot there is only we can
do it. That's the amusement of this all.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
Friend of mine had the best analogy for it. He said,
it's like when a toddler invents a game and then
they demand you play it, and then when you do,
they throw a tantrum and change the rules because you
beat them at their game.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Yeah, it's you know, it's after a while he's like,
you know, don't do it. You don't want to go them,
You're not gonna like it. Well, we're in the find
out stage now, right because they didn't want to stop,
so we're going to have to apply it in order
to bring it to an end and go ahead. Well,

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that was just playing out across most industries, and then
this week took place where we're watching more and more
unhinged and dysfunctional media figures. I'm I'm gonna start with
Nicole Wallace because she came out and said, you know,
in her I swear her vocal fry drives me backcrap

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crazy on top of what she's saying. But it's like,
you know, studies have shown like the Republicans are the
most violent ones and the rioter the ones that want
to do violence and stuff like politically, And.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
What do you think about that, Buffy?

Speaker 3 (18:35):
She says this, while there's not one, but two studies
out there showing liberals are far more willing to say, oh,
hell yeah, we'll kill somebody for politics, right, I mean.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
You know what I mean, if you're gonna make an omelet,
you gotta break a few of my eggs. That's what
they keep telling us.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
And it's just, you know, perpetually, this has been going on.
So now as of last night, the big news broke.
I happened to be in the bar. When it's happened,
it's like, really, what now?

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Them?

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Jimmy Kimmel, who basically behaves like an unhinged wildebeast on
a nightly basis, behaved like a herd of unhinged wildebeest
this week.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
Yeah, I double checked the timeline. I'm really made sure
that if I was going to speak on this topic.
Then I knew exactly what I was talking about. Now,
for those of you who didn't hear Jimmy Kimmel's comments,
his exact quote was, excuse me. And this was on
the fifteenth. We hit some new lows over the weekend

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with the Maga gang desperately trying to characterize this kid
who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of
them and doing everything they can to score political points
from it. So I did the I did the research.
One the Jimmy Kimmel Alive is taped between four and

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six pm California time, which and it is an entirely
scripted show. It looks like it's vamped. It isn't teleprompters everything.
It is very rigid, which means that that had to
go through writing, editing, and vetting before we'll say six

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pm Pacific time for him to read in his monologue
that night. The facts about Charlie Kirk's assassin had come
out almost twenty four hours before. And these are a
hyper online, terminally online group of people you can tell

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by everybody who works on the show is constantly on
Blue Sky, an instant and everything else, so they couldn't
have missed it. So this was a willful and purposeful lot.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
That is a that's gonna be very pertinent in a
few moments. Sheverly hang on to those specifics. So Kimmel
says this, and you know, again, this is a guy
that has been antagonistic. Doesn't sound like enough, but I'm

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just gonna go with it. Antagonistic towards Donald Trump, but
to the extent he'll make fun of his manhood during
his monologue. I mean, this is the level we're at.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
So as close to Dick jokes as you can get
on broadcast television.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yeah, I'm just bringing this up because they're trying to say,
now he got canceled, not technically canceling. He's on suspension
at the moment, and they're saying it's all because he's
opposing Donald Trump. He's been opposing Donald Trump for about
ten years.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
I'm sorry, Right, this isn't.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Specifically that it is. Oh, he managed to say something
negative about Donald Trump. Oh really, for the six hundred
and eighty fifth episode in a row. You know, if
that were the caves, he'd have been canceled in the
twenty seventeen era.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
See, I would be curious and I didn't think to look.
I would like to go back through the archives and
see if Jimmy Kimmel ever had Donald Trump on before
the Golden Escalator.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Good question, Yeah, I don't. He didn't really do the
late night shows too often, and if he did, my
guess would probably be Fallin because he had he was
on NBC at the time.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
Yeah, out of New York. You're right, so he probably
would have been on Fallon.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
I'm guessing. I don't like Again, I don't have any
recollection of it, yeah this time. So yeah, so basically
Kimball comes out he probably didn't and at least not
on kimbll he so he says this Monday evening of

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Monday Evenings broadcast, like you said, late in the afternoon.
Technically it says definitively that the killer of Charlie Kirk
was MAGA, one of those on the right blatant's ardent misinformation.
So what has played out now? The announcement came late

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last night at my time. It was about eight or
nine o'clock when I got wind of it.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
Yeah, we were just about to go on. Yeah, it
was about an hour before I went on Rick and already,
so it was probably about five six o'clock my time
that it broke, so yeah, about eight o'clock year time.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
And there was a lot of speculation throughout the night
until maybe ten or eleven when it was basically nailed
down what had happened, although speculation was still rampant it.
What we're looking at is two primary affiliate networks throughout

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this country. One is called next Star, the other one
is Sinclair Companies that own a wide array of local
TV stations across the country.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
Yeah, in a thread I did with I tagged you
in on this morning, they have everything from Athens, Georgia,
north on, you know, to North Carolina. They've got Washington,
d C. Bulk of the Eastern seaboard, the Midwest out
of Tulsa, the panhandle of Florida pretty much, and you know,
and then they have some minor markets like San Diego

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and a couple others. But this is basically a wide
swath from the Midwest to the up and down the
Eastern seaboard of every ABC affiliate or almost every affiliate,
is owned by one of these two companies. And they
except for like the major majors, they like the ones
that are in New York, California, and Chicago. Those are

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owned by Disney. Almost all the others are owned by
independent stations who are part of this one of these
media groups, whether it's Sinclair, Nextstar, Hurst or any others.
So you know, this represents about half of the major
companies who control ABC Networks, and they control NBCCBS and

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different markets too. But these are the two big players
in ABC.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
And yes, these these two companies came out pretty much
at the same time to announce that they can no
longer tolerate having Jimmy Kimmel on their affiliates based on this,
and they were going to preempt him. This then led
ABC up and say, okay, no show tonight and Jimmy

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is suspended for the meantime until we figure out what
to do, which translates to get our lawyers involved and
find out how much trouble we're in.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
Right, and in the two noticed it in the two
of them, the one from Next Star pretty much Okay,
there's something else that happened in this time too. SEC
chairman Brandon Carr was on Benny Johnson's podcast and he
had made a comment to the fact. You know, Benny
Johnson asked him about it, and Brandon Carr had made

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a comment to the fact of you know, it's really
not something we want to get involved in. We would
rather if these companies handle it themselves. But we can
do it the easy way or the hard way. It's
a veiled threat. But really he's saying, you know, and
he said the right word is that public interest. And
that's very important in this too, because that's the word

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that next Star used in there, which means that they
were waiting for Brandon Carr to give them legal cover
because this has become an FCC thing, can become an
FCC thing. And so in the next start one they mentioned,
you know, not for the public interest. I have a

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quote right here, Oh yeah, here it is continuing to
give mister Kimmel a broadcast platform in the communities, as
we serve simply is not in the public interest at
this current time. We have made the difficult decision to
preemp the show to let cooler has prevailed as we
move forward with the resumption of respectful, constructive dialogue. In
the Sinclair's statement, they just went balls to the wall

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against him. They're demanding a public apology. Donations to the
kirk family as well as significant donations to the Kirk
family and TPUSA, and in place of the Kimmel shows
starting tomorrow night, they will be running a tribute to
Charlie Kirk in that time slot and are making it

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available to any other ABC affiliate who wants to use it.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Yeah, that's you know, them saying we're tired of playing
around with this right here's you know. This is kind
of difficult for me because I've been one obviously I
cover the media, but I'm also very ardent First Amendment
and i hate the idea of the government intrusion on.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
This, saying I'm really as much as possible.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Yeah, and I'm really tone aligned because there is an
FCC ordinance involved here, and I'm trying to figure out
how much of this is legit government pressure or how
much of it is legitimate enforcement of the licensing ruling.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
Well, I happen to have it right in front of
me Section seventy three dot one two one seven of
the Commission's rules. This rule for prohibits the broadcast licenses
or permittees of broadcasting false information concerning a crime or
a catastrophe if one the licensee knows the information is false.
We've already established false. We've already established that there's no

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way they couldn't kimmea couldn't have known. Two, it's foreseeable.
But that the broadcast or the information will cause substantial
public harm. That's obvious given the political climate that someone
was just assassinated. And Three, the broadcast of the information
does in fact directly cause substantial public harm. We haven't

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reached there yet, but.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
So there you go, right, And there's also you know,
just to clarify two, there's a very specific aspect in
this in that all three of these must apply because
it says you know, one, two, and three. So this
basically means, you know, the government can't just come in

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and he's like, oh, we found something in the licensing
that you violated. Your gone. It has to meet these
criteria specifically, and that's you know, again, that's kind of
when we're in the gray area as far as well
how applicable this can be from the FCC perspective.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
So because there is will cause and did cause, so
you know it will.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Cause financial harm is interpretational. And that the broadcast of
the information does in fact directly cause public harm that
I think is going to be the threshold that's the
hardest to reach.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
Yeah, that would be the hardest. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
So I think what is going on here is the
FCC stepped in and is like, listen, rain your guy
in there, because we're looking at this may or may
not be there. But if we get involved, and there's
gonna be lawyers and it's gonna to be a lengthy
process and it's going to be costly just to explore this.
That's where I think they're at, and it's not at

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least right now. I don't get the impression that it's
Donald Trump pointing a finger saying go get them, whatever
it takes. I think it's more of like, listen, this
has gone far enough, bring your boy in, or we're
going to apply this to it.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
Yeah, And I think that's what Carr was saying, is
that you know, it was a low key thread. I mean,
I'm not gonna say it wasn't a threat, but it's
just kind of, look, we don't want to do this,
so you can handle it yourself, because if we have
to get involved, it's going to get ugly. And I
don't care how many mouse lawyers you have, because now

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the house a mouse has to look at it this way.
Do they go against their affiliates, Do they say, you
guys are in breach of contract because you won't play
the Kimel Show, at which point the affiliates go, you're
in breach of contract because you provided material false information
on your network that we that by contract we rebroadcast,

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and you put us under the scrutiny of the FCC.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Yeah, and this is and I think too, what they're
basically hinting at here for the network is listen, it's
easier to handle this one guy, because if we go
to the length that your license is yanked, that's deeply
significant across the board. So what do you think is
the best course of action here? That's I'm pretty sure

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that's kind of the message they've been sending out. And
again I'm I'm really not comfortable getting to this point.
I don't like this, But and I've covered this, you know,
a red stain and in my column gonna probably go
at length tomorrow and my podcast too. But here's my thing.

(33:00):
We wouldn't be here if the people who are screaming
and yelling right now hasn't been playing this very game
for the last ten years. Sure, I mean, they've been
pushing for this kind of stuff. Look, the people that
are out there say, this has never happened. You've never
seen censorship like this. Hello, New York Post was completely

(33:24):
deplatformed on social Man, don't give me a private company.
Remember the White House was involved in this. It's been
proven in the wild.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
Let's look at this. Let's look at this exact same company.
Oh yeah, this is Kimmel did on the air. Okay,
he did it on the air. They did worse to
Roseanne Bar because not only did they fire her, they
killed her character off in the most ignoble way possible
for something she posted on social media. Gina Carano, they

(33:58):
fired her for the most banal, bland take you could
fucking imagine. And both of these are at AB or Sorry, ABC,
so where's your You know, it's like Dave Pacman making
that tweet toda about it. Everybody was hitting one with
the Roseanne bar things. I really liked the way you

(34:19):
stood up for Gina Ooh wait, how awkward. And I
did the search and he'd never mentioned Gina Crono once.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
Oh no, he brought up Roseanne And what did he
go with? Oh, this was just a business decision. A
company decided to do this. Well, company just decided to
take this action yesterday. What do you mention about? Same
company in fact, But.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
That's literally the same company. It's still the House of Mouse.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Same network. And the difference is what Roseanne did was
on social media. Kimmel said something on the air, far
more actionable.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
Okay, Kevin and ABQ, Kevin and Albuquerque says. According to IMDb,
Trump has appeared on Jimmy Kimmel Live five times. Oh really,
oh my, how that Petard has hoisted you.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
Yes, it's MSNBC's Morning Joe all over again.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
Yes, it's like Howard Stern all over.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
But this is this is exactly what's been going on though.
And here's the thing again, Like I said, all the
people yelling today when Roseanne got fired, We've we've seen
the tweets all day about this where they cheered it.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
Yeah, the.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
David French came out the police card a thing happened
when Roseanne got fired. What did he say? Ah, it's
like a cleansing has come over the country, you ask.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
Yeah, I want to go back to something about the
affiliates too. Is even if Carr had said nothing, okay,
And it's like I talked about in that thread today,
the affiliates for the right of being able to broadcast ABC,
they get to sell local advertising in during you know,

(36:13):
during the shows. The rest of the time, their bread
and butter is their newscasts and their syndication shows. So really,
from a consumer standpoint, I can get my local news
from NBC just as well as ABC, and I can
watch Milk Toasts Jimmy Fallon and not want to punch

(36:35):
a kitten if you're so. From an economics point, I'm
not saying the affiliates are doing anything for the common man.
They're doing it for there because this is a dying industry.
We talk about it every show, how broadcast television is dying.
The margins are getting tighter, and where Sinclair and Next

(37:02):
Star operate out of, aside from Washington, DC and Connecticut
and a couple other places, pretty fucking red.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
Well, that's the other thing. You have to know your
audience right. When you've got late night talk shows out
of LA or New York, they pretty much convey at
best and apathy for flyover Country at other times outward
high they're operating in their coastal bubbles, and therefore they

(37:36):
don't know for the most part what goes on in
the rest of the country. And so when he comes
out and his audience is barking like seals. Oh, he
slammed Charlie Kirk clap clap, clap, clap, clap with the
lights on, and they all think they're operating in a
supportive atmosphere when the bulk of their potential audience, because

(37:58):
he doesn't have much of one now, is saying, holy hell,
I can't believe this guy just said that about Charlie
Kirk and changing you.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
Were talking about his audience. I heard an anecdote today
of somebody who had actually been to a taping of
Kim Alive that if you are not a clapping seal
and laughing when the applause and laugh lights come on,
they eject you from the audience.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
You're kidding me.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
No, no, everything about that is manufactured.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
Holy crap. So if you're not an active participant in that.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
Right, if you are, if you're not showing the enthusiasm
of the Dog Pound on the Arsenio Hall show, you're gone.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
Wow, I mean, it's it's amazing. Well, and you know,
and while there's all this contractempts taking place. Oh, Donald
Trump canceled him. Let me tell you why ABC is
not so bothered. According to monthly Nielsen figures, Jimmy Kimmel

(39:05):
Alive has This is amazing these figures. Jimmy kim Alive
has dropped to just one point one million total viewers.
That's not demographic, total audience, one point one million in
August of this year. That's down forty three percent, not
year over year from January.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
Yeah, he has lost.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
Forty three percent of his audience just this year alone.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
And that's why I think ABC is not fighting this one.
But I don't think you're going to get the army
of mouse lawyers out on this one.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
I mean, I think the only thing keeping him on
the air is he does not have the same battalion
of staff that Stephen Colbert does. And losing forty million annual.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
Right, yeah, yeah, because we looked at the figure. We
were talking about the figures when we were when this
happened to Colbert for different reasons, that show was one
hundred million a year to run and Kimmel, I've seen
reports fifty to seventy five, so half. But you know,

(40:15):
with Kimmel, they built that show ground up I mean,
it's not like he's taken over a legacy like Fallon,
you know they that are, you know, Colbert taking over
after Letterman. It's just this whole thing was completely just
built and designed around Jimmy Kimmel.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
And the thing I don't understand is with his numbers
just diminishing on an annual basis, the network is like,
beholden to him. They give him. Also, who wants to
be a millionaire? He's host of that.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
He was.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
Pretty much.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
I don't imagine for long. I really don't.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
He also is frequently doing the Oscars when that goes
to ABC, so there is.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
Well, again that's an ABC thing, so I'm sure he won't.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
I don't know why they've been so married to this
guy who's really not delivering the goods and the ratings
for this year amaze me because this fall, if you
can call it that, because he was already a pretty
unsubstantial level less than two mil. He's dropped that much

(41:25):
during the Trump presidency. Yeah, so when you fall from
this in January when the inaugural was what the twenty first,
I want to say, yeah, he's almost lost a million
viewers in that period of time.

Speaker 4 (41:42):
I mean, you know, the left is having a real
hard time, as we have seen, real hard time coping
with a second Trump presidency. But even that, you think
that they would go, oh god, I need to get
my chimel fix. I'm just so depressed.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
And I mean, I I wrote about it a hall
today too, when I was covering this, I said, the
other reason I'm kind of uneasy with this is I
kind of prefer him on the air because a he's
got this diminishing audience and his level of influence is
not there. But what he says is so illustrative of

(42:18):
what's going on of the poison on the left. The
stuff he says. There are people not in that audience
that are clapping and applauding what he says, and they're
exposing themselves, and that's what we want. You know, I
prefer these people out there barking on the sidewalk and
showing who they are as opposed to hiding and doing
their little cell of liberal leftists antagonism. You know, if

(42:43):
they're out there saying this and you confront them, that's
better than the closet case who gets his grandfather's rifle
and then climbs on a roof my point.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
Yeah, well yeah, I mean, yeah, it's a double edged
sword because I'm one hand. I mean yeah, It's not
like the assassin was watching Kimmel because he probably thought
him a you know, far right cook too, so, but yeah,
it's you know, yeah, you you want to see what
you know these retards are saying. But on the other hand,

(43:14):
you you don't want them to inflame anybody else because
Kimmel is Kimmel is the fodder for HR employees.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
Exactly, you can't fire me. You have Jimmy Kimmel on staff.
You need me. That's what it comes down to. So
that's yeah, that's that's a definite reality. Now to the
to the people that are screeching about this and censorship,
this is how hollow the argument is. How you know,

(43:51):
the wailing that's going on now is complete and utter horseshit.
Here's how Brian Stelter, that's m He's all over this,
of course, all over the accusation that Trump and the
FCC and Brendan Carr are entirely behind the silencing of
a comedian. This is the same Brian Stelter two years ago,

(44:15):
during his first iteration at CNN before he was shitcanned
and brought back. Was outwardly promoting, not canceling, somebody eliminating
an entire news network, Fox News lobbying cable providers to
strip Fox News from their cable packages over their content,

(44:39):
specifically over misinformation and the danger this presents to the
general public. Well, Brian, your comedian quote unquote just delivered
misinformation to the lowest order this week and got canceled
for it. Why are you not applauding?

Speaker 4 (44:55):
Yeah, this is supposed to be I mean your ballyo Wick.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
Really, this is what you wanted and lobbied for. You
should be supporting this, Brian. And then the jackasses over
at the Bulwark, of course we're on this and it's like,
you know, they just canceled this guy because of jokes,
the clown nose, clown nose on, clown nose off argument. Yeah,

(45:19):
here's here's my question.

Speaker 4 (45:23):
That was staying in a somber, matter of fact way.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
Yeah, this is during one of it's like a trademark
rant of his any longer in his monologues where he
has to come out and lecture us about what's proper
and what's right. Okay, so you're not a comedian anymore.
You're a life coach, right. I hope you're better at
that because your jokes weren't funny, so you're, you know,
your life guidance. Here, I'm going to be questioning, but

(45:51):
I said it to them. I go, okay, if this
is gonna be your argument, tell me where the punchline was,
I'm not arguing if it was funny or not. Show
me the construct his comment where it was a joke,
because he's down.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
For us, as if a diagramed this sentence for me.
But do it in the ha haway.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
Yeah, just like underline the portion that was supposed to
be mirthful if you could. I'd love to hear it,
because I missed that part and I'm rather familiar with humor.
I've come across it at times in my life. I'm
familiar with the construct of a joke. So I'm confused
here since I don't see it as he's pointing his

(46:30):
finger at the camera and lecturing how Mega has drive
to deny the truth. Yes, I'm waiting for the is
the bunch line still coming?

Speaker 4 (46:42):
Yeah? Is this a pregnant pause? Is this for a
dramatic effect? You're really gonna nail this. Oh you went
to commercial Okay.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
Yeah, I mean he didn't even try what he did
earlier in the year when the people were bombing Tesla dealerships.
You know, when he came out, I was like, I
much want to say, I don't want people do not
go bomb Tesla dealerships. And then he mugs for the camera,
you know, like a wink wink kind of thing. All right,
there there was the punchline. It was unspoken, but I
picked up on it. See I got that.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
That was simple.

Speaker 6 (47:12):
Okay, Yeah, but this is what we're this is what
we're up against, this level of intellectual dishonesty across the board.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
They can't look at this objectively.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
Yeah, I was thinking about this, and this is actually
this could be a huge boon for Fallon because one
of all of them, and we're going to talk about
that later. Fallon, aside from Guttfeld, is the only late
night show going up that is, you know, has a

(47:46):
higher opinion of the time the poll was taken last year.
He's yeah, he's a little left, but you know what,
he's fucking milk toast. If he went back to the
big desk couch format, you know, rather than doing his
little skits because he does have the stand up chops.
If he did it, Carson leto style, get out there,

(48:07):
get a tent hard ten minute monologue, you know, just
be you know, don't be political, just be a observation humor,
which is what he used to do, and stand up
just like everybody else when they're in stand up. Go
back to the desk and do that. You will get
back the most ignored and coveted financially demographic that exists
right now, and that is gen X. Because what's gen

(48:28):
X doing right now? Binging Johnny Carson on YouTube.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
Yes, I was scrolling through because I got a fire stick,
so I got a crap down of channels and found
one of these late night one of these comedy channels.
But late at night they actually go to Carson at
like eleven. It's presented just like it was always. It's
like to night show with here's our guests, and yeah,

(48:56):
people are like, I remember that when I was the kid,
and they're.

Speaker 4 (48:59):
Watching, so yeah, yeah, I meant a lot of times
we didn't get to stay you know. It's like, you know,
we pissed our parents off somehow, so we didn't get
to stay up to watch Carson. So there's a lot
of stuff that we would have loved at the time
that we missed. So you know, it's like I've been
watching the Ones when he you know, Don Rickles was
on until Don Rickles broke his box and then he
didn't allow Don Rickles on anymore. You just stuff like that,

(49:21):
and you know it. I mean, it's just good, genuine,
wholesome fun. And Fallon can set himself up for that,
and NBC can do it because they're already kind of
cross branding him vertical over to streaming too, with you know,
the brand. So I mean, we know they listened to

(49:42):
us from time to time just so they can do
the exact opposite of what we suggest. But this one,
please comcast listen to me. You have a market that
you don't know about that you haven't tried. And he
doesn't have to compete with anyone anymore because the other
two are gone as of May of next year. So
one of them's gone now probably forever, and the other

(50:04):
one's gone. And you have lega you have Carson Leno's
legacy that you need to take care of.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
So Carson two, his tendency was it wasn't milk toast.
But he didn't delve deep into politics. It was always
he would make fun of the president if the president
did something ridiculous. It was rarely about policy. Can you
believe that the the latest food stamp front? No, he

(50:34):
just said did you see him trip off the plane line?
What's up? Or they would just say those clowns in Congress, right,
it would never know.

Speaker 4 (50:43):
Those clowns in Congress. What a bunch of clowns?

Speaker 3 (50:47):
Our tax dollars are going to this? And that would
be the extent. You would not get into this granular
one side. Could you believe Mitch McConnell, what did and
this is what Kimmel does. Yeah, let's spend all day
looking for all the Republicans we can make fun of,
and just make fun of them. And then Colbert, let's
invite the Democrats on. You never saw politicians on Carson.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
Never maybe, okay, maybe maybe during a presidential election.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Right, Mike get Advice President. I wanted some FaceTime. That's
about as deep as they go, but we're getting Colbert
had one of the Democrat House members from Wisconsin on
his show. The one that they're trying to pimp up
now is some vital new up and comer who no
one's ever heard of, still and having serious discussions, and

(51:40):
people are like, is this are we having fun? Is
this the fun part she's talking about?

Speaker 4 (51:45):
They had Adam schiff On for Christ's sake.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
Jeez, oh my god, that's uh.

Speaker 4 (51:55):
I could not imagine.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
Hey, look at that. I found the remote.

Speaker 4 (51:59):
Yeah. Yeah, it's really hard to netflix and chill, you know, because,
I mean the joke back in the day was how
many babies have been made during Carson's monologue or after
Carson's model. I mean, Carson was an icon drama rama
song last cigarette. You know, just watch just watch the

(52:19):
or you know, just watch the sports and weather. You can,
you know, you don't have to watch news, just listen
to Johnny Carson said, So.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
It was.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
It was a fixture.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
The wife might say these days, are you in the moon? Honey?
It's like, uh no, I just saw Kimmel.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
Sorry yeah, sorry, check back next week. It's gonna be
a while.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
Ye late night shows cock blocking across America, all.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
Right, yeah, I mean, I mean it's because people would
write Carson saying, you know, we just gave birth to
our son. Blah blah blah, blah blah, conceived during when
Sophia or N was on.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
So damn that specific Yeah, mom, where'd I get my
name from? Well? The guest that night was.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
All right, well Rickles.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
But this is where we're at though. The so many
of these people today just screaming about this. It's like,
I'm sorry for the last ten years you pushed for this,
and guess what we're pushing back. That's the best thing
I can tell you.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
This is literally everything you lost. I'm sorry it's not
on the side that you wanted it to happen to.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
And how many times have we said that you're not
gonna like it when this Well, there are others.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
To Ferguson in anyway. Ferguson be fantastic. He's so much fun.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
I actually liked him. Ye he was I figure it out.
I enjoyed watching him. It was weird.

Speaker 4 (53:54):
Yeah. The thing about Ferguson, the thing I liked most
about Ferguson is he took the thing that Carson did,
and that was you know, there was always an underlying
double entendre was something. Ferguson was a little bit more
obvious about it than Carson ever was. But whenever a

(54:14):
guest said something that could be taken sexually, the camera
would cut to Carson and he'd kind of like blush
for a little bit and give his little, you know,
eye twinkling smirk about it to let the audience know, yeah,
we all thought that too.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
Oh okay then and start tapping the pencil.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
But I mean a lot, a lot of the magic
of you know, Carson two would be like, oh god,
what was the uh what was the goddamn animal? Dude?
Oh right, Jim Fowler. Jim Fowler. Yeah, whenever Jim Fowler
would be on the there was some weird animal. And

(54:51):
the magic of Carson two is like the guest would
always stay on the couch. The previous guests was usually
stay on the couch for the next guest, and so like,
you know, you'd have Catherine Box sitting there in a
barely held on dress and then you get Jim Fowler
coming on with a monkey that just goes straight for
the cleavage, right, you know. TV magic.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
It's uh, harken back to the days when television actually
entertained you instead of lectured you. How about that? Yes, well,
we uh, I kind of want to say, there's other
things going on and a new topic. Except no, it's
a it's an old topic sort of.

Speaker 4 (55:35):
You want to take a break before we do this?

Speaker 3 (55:38):
Oh hell yeah, maybe we should.

Speaker 4 (55:40):
Yeah, we just we just spent an hour talking about cammel.
We can uh.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
Surprised we didn't burn the whole one. So okay, cool,
good idea. Let's do that. So take about three minutes,
everybody hit the lobby, go get some refill on the
court and the drinks, and we will be back here
on the culture shift.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
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(56:34):
your athing, just to be absored from what you need.
That's what you had, diet.

Speaker 7 (56:49):
Believe you can't moved, I had the wrist. Oh yeah,

(57:17):
I had the nest.

Speaker 8 (57:37):
Don't drive you home, you drive you mad, lillion lie
sell yourself as though you ever had so.

Speaker 7 (58:09):
She can't can't ye kids lead to the kids believe,

(59:01):
don't believe the the e can't sacs.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
And welcome back to the culture Shift. As we try
to segue into new territory. And I'm say that would
trepidation because it's not right after we get the Paramount
sky Dance merger completed and we don't have to talk

(01:00:12):
about it. Anymore. Now we have to talk about it
some more. Yikes. The I can't figure this out why
this is a thing. But there's talk lady of Paramount
Sky but Dance now merging with Warner Brothers. Do I

(01:00:35):
not have Ordy? I guess not.

Speaker 5 (01:00:43):
Yeah, I'm not sure what's going on with n at
the moment.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
Well, yes, we already and I have talked extensively about
that merger taking place, and now that it's completed, there's
whispers that they now want to take over Warners, which
I'm not real clear why because Warners is already a conglomerate.
They've got all kinds of crap going on, and I
don't see this. I don't see this one going through

(01:01:09):
approval because it just seems to be too damn big,
too damn extensive. There we go.

Speaker 4 (01:01:20):
Okay, I don't know why. I went out of the
room to refresh my drink and for some reason, uh,
it changed my microphone to a microphone that I haven't
used in years and hasn't actually been installed on this
computer anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Did you should have brought a drink for the mic?
It's piste off at you.

Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
Yeah, probably, I think it's mad. Okay, here's your beer. Mic,
good Mic.

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
So I'm trying to figure out why this is even
an idea. Why are they trying to do this monster merger?

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
Well, okay, so Zaslev, who is the president CEO of Discovery,
war has toyed with the fact of splitting him just
we're gonna go do Warner Brothers. We're gonna do movie
and TV production, and we're gonna take that out, and
then Discovery will be all the broadcast properties. And Larry Ellison,

(01:02:18):
which is Ellison the Younger's dad. He's the Oracle guy.
He had quite the windfall for some reason with Oracle
last week, and for a moment he became even richer
than Elon Musk. And he said, you know, I'll buy
that whole package because I've got a couple hundred billion

(01:02:43):
just burning a hole in my pocket. Why the fuck not?
So yeah, and that's and so he's thinking, he's thinking
that if they talk about splitting up Warner Discovery, that
it will start a bidding war for everybody who was
a no take a whole piece, like Apple and Amazon
and everybody. So you know, we'll buy the whole package.

(01:03:04):
You know, we'll give you just here here's my American
exprest black. Whatever you want, we'll take it. So Ellison
figured he was going to get in before the bidding
war started and just make an offer. And then again,
this is all Neither side has actually confirmed this, but
this is all just backroom speculation. But apparently Zaslov said

(01:03:27):
you need another zero.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
But and again, Hollywood economics is why I love it.
None of it makes sense. Warner Brothers Discovery is still
basically warm. I mean, they just that merger is only
a few years old.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
They haven't even changed the business cards yet.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
They're talking now about splitting in it. I mean it's
almost like, okay, yeah, this didn't work out. You know,
we went on the honeymoon and realize we don't like
it might be a little different in that warners HBO
would go with the Discovery package maybe, but what the hell?
You guys just had to do this and oh.

Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
My god, Cinemax snores, I want out.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
Amazing. And now it's like, what a year and a half,
two years we've covered the Paramount Skydance deal and now
that they're settlers.

Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
Like, we want more, we want to do this Moreeah.

Speaker 4 (01:04:32):
Yeah, we just had so much fun with this battle,
we want to do more.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
It almost sounds like the nineteen eighties when corporations were
just buying up companies because it was like the cool
thing to do. Yeah, like all of a sudden, Coca
Cola owns Paramount or Colombia. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 4 (01:04:50):
It's kind of the subplot a pretty woman.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
So yeah, I don't have that. I want to buy it.
I don't have a makeup company, I don't have a
soft drink up. And then they sit on mountains of
debt for five to ten years before they had to
spin things off.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
Well, I mean that goes back to you know, PEPSI
had such a hard time getting themselves into restaurants because
everybody went went and coke. So they just went and
bought Pizza Hut and Taco Bell and KFC mm hmm.
Exactly made them young brands.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
This is ours, You're not allowed in here.

Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
Yeah, right.

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
And the thing is they just paid off the debt
on the Warner Discovery acquisition, so they just put the
books and it's like, Okay, we can move forward now.
I don't want to.

Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
Yeah, no, I want to split that off. I want
to get rid of them, and I want to do this.
I want to Oh, somebody wants to buy the whole package. Interesting,
let's do that. Let's go through all that FCC red
tape again.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
So of course, the Warner Discovery stock jumped massively at
this prognostication of it all.

Speaker 4 (01:06:00):
Holy hell, It's like, yeah, can'd you just be happy.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
For I don't know, five years?

Speaker 4 (01:06:07):
No, not really, I don't know. And I somebody else
on the inside of this said, if it does getting
in a bidding war, they're not going to make a
decision until the stock goes to eighty. It's at sixteen
right now.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
Oh okay, then yeah, we're gonna be talking about this
for a long time. Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
I just Jeff put on a schedule to clear out
twenty twenty six to talk about this merger.

Speaker 5 (01:06:33):
Thanks done, I mean the whole year. Ye, I'm good
at planning things. It's noted.

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
Yeah, I've noticed. I've noticed we've got all of Juxtober
in the bag almost so well.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
On a related note, we've talked about it before where
Comcast had made the decision to divest itself from most
of its cable because you know, that's only where the
company was developed.

Speaker 4 (01:07:08):
You know, this thing that is the foundation of our
being fuck that thing.

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
We're a cable company that doesn't want any cable stations anymore.
How about that, right, We're all that's how bad the
industry is.

Speaker 4 (01:07:18):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
Comp Gas Universal wants to get rid of it's cable
channels except for one that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:24):
Would be like Jerry at the time, ge wanting to
get rid of jet engines and toasters.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
Coca Cola. Yeah, we're not so big on soft drinks anymore,
so we're just gonna do chips.

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
Yeah, but we're going to do you know, we're really
into the whole in flight snack convenience snack thing right now.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
So anything with salt we're going to concentrate on from
now on.

Speaker 4 (01:07:49):
I'm all about salt now.

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
So Comcast Universal got rid of their channels, including MSNBC
Smart Move Yeah, created a new venture called First and
for the last few months there's been kind of, I
don't want to say nasty, but a very abrupt divorce
if you want to call it. Actually, it's closer to

(01:08:12):
parents kicking out the twenty year old. It's like, get
the hell out of here. You're on your own now.
So MSNBC, for instance, has had to clear out of
the studios. They've had everybody on staff had to make
a decision. There's like, I don't know ten or so
reporters that worked both sides. It's like pick one. You're
either them or you're us, you know, like Steve Kornaki

(01:08:34):
went to NBC and stuff like that went on. So
this new venture versunt it's the collection of channels including
MSNBC has come out there. They just had their first
quarterly report.

Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
Damn, Oh my god, this parachute has packed with silverware.

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
Not good is the best description of this one. So,
I mean, this is again a new venture. So I'm
almost at a laws as to how do you how
do you have a drop when you this is basically
your first report? Yeah, yeah, I just wow, just now everything.

Speaker 4 (01:09:21):
We're so done with anything related to old media.

Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
I mean, this is again their first earnings report and
they fell sixteen percent in the first six months. How
do you even do that? Like you're still unpacking, aren't you.

Speaker 9 (01:09:44):
A kid?

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
Haven't even printed the business cards?

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
Yeah, as I'd like the turn of phrase in this report.
The disclosure marks the first glimpse into the financial health
of the spinoff. Health is not a good one. I'm
gonna say that's a bad glimp So again, this is
like MSNBC, c NBC, which just had some of the

(01:10:10):
lowest ratings in decades. They said, USA Network, I forgot
they were still on the are honestly do they What
do they have that's worth with damn any longer?

Speaker 4 (01:10:20):
I don't know. I mean, okay, so they'll do this
incestuous relationship with Sci Fi Channel and you know, main NBC,
where they'll just move shows around to see where it fits.
So I think that's just the you're the last this
is your last chance before you get canceled, if you know,
you know or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
But it wasn't that long ago that USA Network had
a collection of pretty decent show It was solid Hadler,
they had monk Suits came from that, yeah, yeah, and
a number of others like that where I would tune
in I would be like, you know what, that's not
a bad show, that's a good diversion. I'm for it now.

(01:11:04):
I couldn't even tell you the last time I've watched
you say, outside of the Olympics, I.

Speaker 4 (01:11:08):
Yeah, exactly, No, I was gonna say that to Olympics
is the only time I watched USA.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
So and I like this, where they said the company
is expected to complete a spin off by Comcast by
the end of the year, with no specific date given.
You know, that's like versus saying can I can I
come over still for dinner on Friday?

Speaker 4 (01:11:30):
Is that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
They're like, uh, you have to sure? Oh no, we're
gonna be out that night.

Speaker 4 (01:11:38):
Yeah, I've already turned your room into a study.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
Yes. Sorry, Uh, you know, we're we're going out with
the CBS people. It's you know, they're in town, so
we have to go see them. You know how it is? Yeah,
this is wow. That it's just another sign of how
bad Gable has become.

Speaker 4 (01:11:58):
It's just, hey, we got breaking news.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
Oh do we what's up? Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:12:02):
In regards to our previous topic, Wall Street Journal reports
Jimmy Kimmel planned to address the controversy had he got
on the air Wednesday night, But Kimmel planned to blame
MAGA and Disney execs feared he would just make things worse.
Kim will make things worse, no shit, the statement. Kimmel
had planned to address cars comments on Wednesday nights, according

(01:12:24):
to people familiar with the matter. Before his on air appearance.
Dana Walden, co chairman of Disney Entertainment spoke to the
host about his plan, and people said after the conversation
between Kimmel and Walden, she and other senior executives thought
that the stars approach would make the situation worse. People
familiar with the conversation said executives had also discussed staff safety,
including threatening emails staff on Kimmel's show had received after

(01:12:46):
Car's remarks and posting of some of their personal information online.
Well it's accountable. Walden huddled with her team and Disney
chief executive Bob Iger, before the two executives decided to
temporarily take Kimmel off the air, people said, and then
she informed kim All the decision. So he Kimmel says

(01:13:07):
his words were being purposefully twisted.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
He's on tape.

Speaker 4 (01:13:13):
Yeah, this is the one thing you're getting back real quick.
It's like with the limbs of TikTok thing. And he
goes like, oh, you know, they're just you know, making
shit up. They're using the person's own words. That's them
in the video anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
So that's breaking.

Speaker 4 (01:13:25):
Thanks Jeff for dropping that in my lap.

Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
Well that's another thing I've noticed a lot from now on. Anytime,
like anything controversial happens, I'm just gonna say, you know,
and we received death threats. That's just like default any longer.
If there's anything controversy, We've been getting death threats and
threatening emails. Can you show those two us? Please? Do
you have any proof? Oh? Yeah, I turned those over

(01:13:52):
to legal so I can't. There's a disclosure thing. I'm sorry,
but trust me, I almost died. Kind of the way
that works out. Those animals on the other side tried
to kill us. That's the out now, So I'm just
gonna do that from that one too. How can you
say that slugger? Sorry, death threats, I can't respond. Sorry. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:14:16):
Ah, so anyway, there's that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:21):
Well I probably should have segued off of this earlier,
but you know, what are we gonna do? They held
the Emmys over the weekend. Did you know that?

Speaker 4 (01:14:31):
I actually did not. That's howes haven't been canceled yet. Yeah.
I honestly, the first I heard about it was today
when somebody was talking about one of the comments that
one of the award winners made.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
And well, yeah, there's always that you have to have
at least one or two as clowns. I'd have to
get up there and it was something about Palestine and birds.
I didn't understand their part.

Speaker 4 (01:15:01):
Yeah, I didn't get the break because they're not real,
Like Palestine, birds are not real.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
I dare you to say that on the era. Wait,
you just did? I hate to say it.

Speaker 5 (01:15:12):
I think she's an Eagles fan.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
That was the only explanation my mind went to. When
I heard people saying that too. It's like, oh, she's
not insufferable enough and she's an Eagles fan. Okay, now
what makes sense. She's like, Yeah, I'm in favor of
birds and Palestine and screw Donald Trump and nag or
something like that. I'm a scorpio, so brave in that

(01:15:35):
crowd that you said that.

Speaker 4 (01:15:39):
Yes, you just stunning and brave.

Speaker 5 (01:15:44):
I was waiting uning and like the Iran and the Iran.

Speaker 4 (01:15:51):
I mean that's a deep cut.

Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
That's like going to festival and saying I'm in favor
of I p a.

Speaker 4 (01:15:59):
That my actually get you stoned?

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
She get it? Hops Yeah, I'm in there. I got
that reference there with me.

Speaker 4 (01:16:08):
You got it? Cool. I made the most obscure reference
today talking about Cantie Owns, saying that she is the
Rebecca Jones of Luis Menches, you've gotta be really online.

Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
Very well, you're urbinally online if you've got that one.
And I'm like, that's guilty.

Speaker 4 (01:16:26):
Got it? Well?

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
The highlights supposedly of the Emmys. The only reason I
brought it up was that Stephen Colbert shocker won for
Best Late Night Talk Shoe.

Speaker 4 (01:16:42):
Lifetime Achievement Award along with the Standing.

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
Ovation Lifetime Participation Trophy. Literally, I mean, if you didn't
see this coming down the road, that's like you go
into the Macy's parade and Thanksgiving and not seeing the balloon.

Speaker 4 (01:16:58):
Holy go shit. I got a big turkey here. Who knew?

Speaker 3 (01:17:02):
So, Yes, Colbert won, and on Monday, everybody would I'd
say everybody people in the entertainment realms. I have never
seen a louder applause and standing ovation. And I've been
covering the media and entertainment for decades. Yeah, okay, So

(01:17:22):
a bunch of people were posturing and virtue signaling at
an award show in Hollywood colored because.

Speaker 4 (01:17:29):
I came on.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
I approve of Stephen Colbert. I want everyone here to
know that.

Speaker 5 (01:17:38):
Can I interject a question or two here?

Speaker 4 (01:17:40):
Absolutely? Okay?

Speaker 5 (01:17:42):
First off, I want to go on record I wish
I could, Like Colbert, dude is a legit Lord of
the Rings fan, sure, like like, I would love to
spend an hour with him just talking about that. But
was the Emmy's the same one that the host said
that he was going to donate to like the Boys
and Girls Club or something, or the YMCA or something,

(01:18:04):
but with one hundred thousand dollars And for every second
they talked over their forty five seconds, it would decrease,
and by like ten minutes into the show was zero.

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
Well, I almost was tempted to watch because it's Nate Bargatsey,
the comedian who's actually, yeah, that was the guy. Yeah,
that's actually a good line right there. That's cool, But
I didn't see it. I probably should pull up his
monologue just and stop there. This is my takeaway from

(01:18:36):
it all, and the whole reason I bring it up.
Colbert has had his late night show for what ten years?
Fifteen years now?

Speaker 4 (01:18:46):
Yeah, yeah, because yeah, David Letniman went out. Yeah, so
I'd say about fifteen years, much the same run as Kimmel.

Speaker 3 (01:18:59):
Here here's the here's the postgame stat that jumps out
at you. This is Colbert's first and only Emmy win
in that period of time. Yeah, so participation trophy much.

Speaker 4 (01:19:16):
I'm pretty sure John Oliver has gotten two or at least.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
No he no, he was getting He was winning every
year to the point they had to put him in
a different category. That's right, Like they for some reason
love that English asshole. I don't know why, but they
just love him, and he wins all the time that
they he had to be put into some other category
like a line of a long form lecturing quasi entertainment.

Speaker 4 (01:19:43):
Or something like that spoken word.

Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
Performative instructional entertainment show the winner is. But yeah, this
is Colbert's first win, and they were just oh my god,
he won, and I just I just just love watching
the entertainment journalist gushing like this was significant.

Speaker 4 (01:20:07):
What so you literally it was a prophecy.

Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
For two months you have not shut up about him,
and you're telling me he won in his category. Gaspin smoon.
I don't know how to handle this information.

Speaker 4 (01:20:22):
I'm pretty sure that if we actually remembered the Emmys
back when Colbert was decontractified, we could have made the
prediction that he will win. Oh yeah, then with our
press since if you're new to the show. Brad and
I we have a crystal ball when it comes to

(01:20:44):
what the entertainment industry. What will happen in the entertainment
industry once a ball.

Speaker 3 (01:20:47):
Gets rolling, Yes, we we basically commit what is considered
a sin in Hollywood, and that is we apply common
sense and pregmatism. Yes, event and always surprises Hollywood, which
operates on emotion and fiction.

Speaker 4 (01:21:04):
So and usually when that happens, I'll be like, oh,
is that right? Well, I hope somebody picks up that
phone because I fucking called it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
I have to say, though, semi related, I've thought a
very amusing news item pop up today in relation to
the Kimmel cancelation.

Speaker 4 (01:21:26):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
The band members of Jimmy Kimmel's in house band are
members of a music union, and that union has come
out with this statement in opposition to his suspension.

Speaker 4 (01:21:43):
Gasp, I can even gasp in Spanish.

Speaker 3 (01:21:49):
I saw this headline, and I mean, okay, this is
supposed to mean something. Based on the headline, I mean,
I'm assuming you're just like saying that the bartender and
Waiters Union has come out in opposition to the use

(01:22:10):
of paper napkins at events.

Speaker 5 (01:22:12):
I mean I actually have a quote from the band's
union member.

Speaker 4 (01:22:17):
Oh please, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
For a minute, Jeff, I thought you were You're gonna
like impress me and bother me at the same time, Like,
holy cow, he went deep on the research here. But okay, yes,
got it. See that's what a punchline looks like, folks record.

Speaker 4 (01:22:37):
Yeah, I mean it had a setup and a payoff.

Speaker 3 (01:22:42):
Yes, there was a definable end to the joke where
you saw humor inserted, I e. A punchline. Well done,
well done.

Speaker 4 (01:22:54):
Joke, well crafted, Jeff.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
Thanks, So that's yeah. The the Hollywood set basically had
to come out and say, look, we like Stephen Colbert.
We're giving him a trophy. Yay. I swear I love it.
I love Hollywood for all the wrong reasons.

Speaker 10 (01:23:15):
I right, If love is the word, is that affection
contempt beer goggles?

Speaker 3 (01:23:28):
Maybe I don't know how it applies here, but all right, Well.

Speaker 4 (01:23:33):
Do you want to go over who won any of
the categories or doesn't matter?

Speaker 3 (01:23:37):
I could give two ships. Yeah, thank you. I mean, honestly,
is there is there a show out there that you
were struck by? Like, oh hey they won? Like I
pretty much could have called that severance at Apple TV
was going to take some stuff home. Uh right about

(01:24:00):
it though, pretty much I didn't really.

Speaker 4 (01:24:03):
Have whatever that whatever That Seth Rogan show is, oh.

Speaker 3 (01:24:06):
Yeah, the studio and I think that's on HBO. It
was like, what are we still encouraging this guy? Don't
do that? Don't okay, what are you laughing at?

Speaker 4 (01:24:15):
Because if you say Seth Rogan, I'll know you're lying.

Speaker 3 (01:24:18):
I will say this though. This this part cracked me up.
It was what it was Best Director of a Series.

Speaker 4 (01:24:26):
I think.

Speaker 3 (01:24:29):
The presenter is up there and she's like, I just
want to say, this is just an amazing moment because
of the six nominees, five are women and back and
they're going on and praising it, and the winner is
the dude. Right, I love that too much.

Speaker 4 (01:24:54):
That is just fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:24:55):
We've we've reached a historical moment. This is so fabulous
for women Sausage Party. It's like, you couldn't script that
any better. If you don't, people would say, no, that
take it out. That's just too too low hanging fruit.
It's too obvious. Nobody would buy it. Oh yeah, and

(01:25:23):
then they uh, for some reason, they had to do
like reunions throughout the night, like they had the reunion
of the Gilmore Girls. Okay, all right, that's in the top.
Tend to streaming every single damn show we do. It's
not like there's this cloud of nostalgia. It's like, oh man,

(01:25:45):
I haven't seen them all together in eighteen hours.

Speaker 4 (01:25:50):
Right, It's so weird because I was just bingeing the
show right before the Emmys. That's just that's kiss me,
It's serendipity.

Speaker 3 (01:25:59):
No, I'm just to see them on screen together. I haven't. Oh,
I haven't seen this since.

Speaker 4 (01:26:04):
Breakfast, right, seriously, Oh Jesus, I love this industry so much.

Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
See see that's what I'm talking about. Oh God, I
love these people so much.

Speaker 9 (01:26:23):
Okay, Yeah, it's just the whole so up their own
asses that. I mean, I've got an ego, but holy fuck,
mine's at least deserved.

Speaker 4 (01:26:34):
I troll, I shit post.

Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
Whatever, well I do, I don't know, somewhat turned towards
a bit of seriousness here because there was a Hollywood
icon that was lost, and yeah, I mean it's a
dude I actually liked, even though, you know, prototypical leftist.
But I'll say this, and I think I'm going to
write about it tomorrow, and I would say that this

(01:27:01):
is a Hollywood liberal done right. And I'm talking about
Robert Redford.

Speaker 4 (01:27:06):
It's like Bill Maher and that it's that, yeah, he's
a liberal and you know that you're not going to
agree with him on almost anything, but he's just not
a jackass about it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
Well, that's the thing is I pretty much was going
to say exactly that. It's like, I don't agree with
him on a policy situation, but he's not an ass
about it, right. And basically this is a guy that
instead of going out there and preaching and saying, you
know what you should do, he goes out there and

(01:27:37):
did it himself.

Speaker 4 (01:27:39):
Yeah, I didn't tell anybody to go and do he
if he if he wanted to go for a cause,
he'd go out and do it. Yeah, you know. But he,
to his credit to you, he saw how underrepresented small
filmmakers were in the industry. So what did he do.
He went out and created Sundance Film Festival, right, and.

Speaker 3 (01:27:59):
He he Here's the thing is, Redford had a real
healthy attitude about Hollywood and he has said is that
this is a place that will welcome you in and
then kick you right in the shins. And that's why
he relocated to Park City. That's why he went to Utah.

(01:28:20):
He bought a crap ton of acreage and he said,
the people here, they'll welcome you. And guess what, you're
gonna stay welcome, right, And what he did is took
over a local film festival that was struggling and said,
you know what we're gonna you know, let me come in.
I'll give it my juice, I'll give it my stuff.

(01:28:40):
But it wasn't a Hollywood film festival. Was independent strictly,
at least at its inception.

Speaker 4 (01:28:47):
Right, and still more or less largely is I mean,
if you're to tell me you know something one cons
I don't give a shit if you tell me something
one sun Dance, Oh I might watch it. At least
until recently, that was you know, that was my barometer
on an indie film, you know, not but Sundance because

(01:29:08):
generally still down to earth.

Speaker 3 (01:29:12):
Yeah, And the thing with Sundance is they wouldn't take
studio pictures for the most part. Now, they it got
to the point where it became so big that studios
would premiere movies and stuff like that. But they weren't
in competition, they weren't even in the book, but they were.
You know, they would still show and the stars would
show up and you'd have photo moments and would help.

(01:29:34):
And it basically drew big name stars into small pictures.
Like a lot of a list of B list stars
would be in movies for you know, twenty thousand or
something like that, just to be in it and get
that kind of credibility. It was almost like a movie
star going to Broadway. You know, well, I'm an ector,

(01:29:55):
but that the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:29:56):
I mean, I mean, I think I have it in
my head that a lot of the traction for pulp
fiction and Clerks came out of Sundance.

Speaker 3 (01:30:06):
Oh definitely. Clerks. Yeah, yeah, Clerks was I mean, Kevin
Smith was a complete unknown and comes out with this
little black and white movie about a convenience store in
Jersey and became a boom mega.

Speaker 4 (01:30:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:30:18):
Now, And I've been to Sundance. I went out there
one time just to go through it all, and it
was it was pretty cool experience altogether, and there was
a lot of that you know, it wasn't head up
your ass, but you know, like I wish I still
had the book if you read these synopsis of clerks.

(01:30:40):
I mean it was almost like every college term paper,
you know, like I'm gonna study ants. No, it is
the social interaction of a societal insect community that kind
of crap clerks. It was like they really captured the
small town on Wii and the class between the workers

(01:31:01):
and what these are assholes in a convenience start telling jokes.
Stop it.

Speaker 4 (01:31:07):
Yeah, but they there's actually a bit in it about
hermaphroditic porn. So you just you just took all the
piss out of that with your little uh.

Speaker 3 (01:31:17):
But I remember reading this. I saw the I first
saw the movie, Like I couldn't get into it because
it became so popular, but I like and the book
actually used the term on Wii.

Speaker 4 (01:31:27):
I was like stopping on Wii.

Speaker 3 (01:31:30):
But I was out there when like Napoleon Dynamite blew up. Okay,
Supersize Me was that year, and that was the other thing,
Like they made documentaries kind of cool. And I remember
I was on a bus one day with the guys
from Netflix, and previously I had driven by like a
condo and they just had this massive banner hanking off

(01:31:51):
of the like four of their balconies or something. And
this is back when they still ship DVDs and stuff.
And I was like six seven of them came on
there and I recognized the one guy from an article
or something. It's like, oh, you're Netflix people. It's up
and we're just bullshit. I was like, you people are
just smoking lately, and he's looking at me wide eyed.
He's like, it's like the level of success we have,

(01:32:12):
it's unbelievable. We bought out that entire condo and they
were like big, but they weren't monolithic at the time. Right,
cool on, You guys should have given him a damn resumes.

Speaker 4 (01:32:27):
Because you make sense they never to hire. They would
have fired you immediately.

Speaker 3 (01:32:30):
Yeah. Probably it's like, oh you're you're not trans though,
all right, sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:32:35):
Well you know that that would have been when they
would have been happy to, you know, have anybody who
wanted to come to work for him.

Speaker 3 (01:32:41):
I probably could have driven a forklift and carried the
DVDs to the USPS guy or something, but I mean, uh,
but Redford, that was his style though he would say
you know not, you know, koreem favor with the studios,
like I'm gonna throw my money at this wanting to
do it our way and I'm gonna do it, and
he did it, and I think this is me just

(01:33:07):
injecting my impression. I really think like through the seventies
and such, his was a career where he was trying
to beat back that nineteen sixties Matine idol thing. You know,
like he was just the blonde pretty boy. All the
women swooned over him, and he thought, I'm gonna.

Speaker 5 (01:33:23):
Be Cirix and so.

Speaker 3 (01:33:26):
Yeah, he exploded with Butcher, Sun Dance and then The Sting,
two great movies right there, and then you got Jeremiah Johnson.
Here's the tell between gen X and anybody else. When
somebody puts up the gift of a guy turning sideways
and smiling, right.

Speaker 4 (01:33:46):
You need to just use it or you know what
that's from.

Speaker 3 (01:33:49):
That's either a gift or that's Robert Redford in the Woods.
There's no thing in two ways to interpret him. And
of course you know he did the Water Gave Me movie,
all the Presidents Men Woodward, But honestly, I think where
the one movie his that always jumps out of me

(01:34:09):
is Spy Game, Love Spy Game. That was one that
was a Tony Scott directed movie, beautifully done, and him
and Brad Pitt, who's almost like passing the torch one
pretty boy to the next. Yeah, but done in a
serious fashion. It was really really well done movie. So
I mean, yeah, with me, with me.

Speaker 4 (01:34:30):
Redford's ultimate film is Sneakers.

Speaker 3 (01:34:36):
I'll go with that.

Speaker 4 (01:34:37):
I mean, I mean, just the cast in it, just
the cast Sidney Poitier, David Straithan dan ackroyd River, Phoenix,
Mary McDowell, Jesus Christ.

Speaker 3 (01:34:50):
That movie for that star power operates under the radar. Yeah,
it's like people recognize. It's like, oh yeah, I remember Sneakers.
That movie should be seriously considered because it was great fun.

Speaker 4 (01:35:04):
There's a circle. It's like, you know, Jeff Me, Vincent, Mickey, Blowtorch,
is any you can make just an obscure Sneakers reference,
You're like cattle mutilations are up and you we all
know exactly what that scene is, you know, with dan
Akroy just being dan Akroid in it. And James Earl
Jones cameo at the end was fantastic. I mean not

(01:35:25):
really a cameo, but you know, it's like you would
think you'd have like James Earl Jones as one of
your headliners and he just comes in in the last
five minutes of the movie.

Speaker 5 (01:35:37):
You know, I smell of Vincent Charles Project episode coming up.

Speaker 4 (01:35:40):
Oh you know, we got to do that with Janelle
want was? I guarantee you she hasn't seen it. That'd
be fantastic, And I know that the EP hasn't seen
it either, right correct, Okay, there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:35:59):
Sounds like almost as if you guys are plotting.

Speaker 4 (01:36:03):
We are plotting. I can then say, I know you're
in the chat. We got to do that one sometime.

Speaker 3 (01:36:09):
I can almost see the chins being rubbed as you speak.

Speaker 4 (01:36:11):
Right now, stroking the beard while I'm thinking about it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:17):
It was. I mean, the thing is, it was like
it was almost like the plotting and the humor and
that were almost too subtle for a mass audience.

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
Really.

Speaker 4 (01:36:28):
Yeah, it's like you have Ben Kingsley in it as
the bad guy, fucking Gandhi.

Speaker 3 (01:36:34):
I mean, I remember distinctly the one scene where Redford's
in front of a door is like, guys, it's luck,
what do we do. He's like, hang on, we're coming
up with ideas, and he's sitting there going on huh
uh huh. I'm gonna they came up like, uh, your foot.

Speaker 5 (01:36:52):
One of the greatest things about that horrible Iron Man
three movie was the nod to Sneakers with Ben Kingsley
being the bad guy.

Speaker 4 (01:37:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the mander and yeah, whose.

Speaker 3 (01:37:08):
Name they had to change when it played in China,
of course, because Hollywood doesn't edit or censor their films.
God damn it. And until it goes to Beijing. But yeah,
I mean Redford I enjoyed, Like in this thing, I
just I actually rewatched. It's like, you know, I haven't
seen the longest damn time he actually is acting in it.

(01:37:32):
The guy never really has a ton of range, but
he always seems to find a role that fits that range. Yeah,
and so it worked. And like in Spy Game two,
everything about his character was that he's this high month
you know, highly placed cias and who's been in there

(01:37:52):
forever he used to be in the field and everything
and hides it. Nobody knows what he's actually thinking and
plotting and doing, and perfectly suited to that mm. So yeah,
he didn't have to like swing the pendulum from one
side or the other. It's like he is he modulating
or is it just him doesn't matter. It fitting perfect.
M h no.

Speaker 4 (01:38:12):
And and you know, like I said, he didn't have
a ton of range, but he it's like in the Natural,
you know, it's that movie. If you're not into it,
it's like the first time you watch The Natural, it
just drags on because there's so much silence that I
remember watching it in the theater and you could hear

(01:38:33):
the projector that much silence in it. You know, it's
just like, but it doesn't need a lot of range,
It doesn't need a lot of conversation in it. You know,
it's just shit happening on the screen.

Speaker 3 (01:38:49):
Well, he was playing the role of an elderly marquee
baseball player as an elderly marquee actor kind of god.
But he was pretty underrated as a director too. Did
you ever see a River runs through It?

Speaker 4 (01:39:06):
Never heard of that movie?

Speaker 3 (01:39:08):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:39:08):
Stop it really, I know, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Of course,
everybody knows the river runs through It.

Speaker 3 (01:39:14):
Well, that's when he and Brad Pitt kind of first
worked together. And the thing is beautifully shot and it's
just a throwback, and I'm watching I was deeply impressed
with it before I learned it was a Redford.

Speaker 4 (01:39:26):
Movie, right, stop it him so see and that's one
thing to use where you use you know, Markye actor.
It's you know, like Clint Eastood. He always knew how
to get the shot too. Just the most impactful scenery shot,
you know, not so much shit going on, but just

(01:39:50):
the big picture, you know, just that wow kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (01:39:56):
But I will just a recommendation if you guys listening
haven't seen Spy Game, do it. It's a great thriller
spy movie, of course, But I mean Tony Scott, you
can't go wrong with him as a director.

Speaker 4 (01:40:08):
Love him and and obviously you've got to go watch Jermia.

Speaker 3 (01:40:12):
Johnson something about Robert Redford the bear suit. Can't get
away from that. It's it is cool, all right. We
probably we should probably get into the streaming numbers half.

Speaker 4 (01:40:28):
Actually we got to do one before we've we've covered
the others of this series. We got to talk about
the new Robert Ingle in the project.

Speaker 3 (01:40:39):
Ah, that's it, yep, that's a That guy is still kicking.

Speaker 4 (01:40:46):
That's the amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:40:47):
It's like the often this guy pops up, he still
does horror. If you Freddy Krueger, if you're not familiar
with him by name, that's who this is. And he's
been in a ton of other pretty prominent horror films.

Speaker 9 (01:41:01):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:41:01):
Quite frankly, his best role was it was in the
Adventures of Ford Fairlane.

Speaker 3 (01:41:08):
Wow, that's a bull. He's so this is I don't know,
is it enough to call it a trend?

Speaker 4 (01:41:21):
Well, okay, so the Jagged Edge Productions they take all
of your youthful joy and turn it into a horror movie.
These are the people who brought you Winnie the Pooh,
Blood and Honey two of to Winning the Poo's Actually, uh,

(01:41:42):
you've got Bambi the Reckoning and most recently with Peter
Pan's never Land Nightmare.

Speaker 3 (01:41:50):
I'm these are in my realm, and I cautiously I
will say this, you gotta go out and see pop
Eye the Slayer man, because this is, like I said,
this is a trend. Now, what's happening is a lot
of this intellectual property is falling into the public domain.
They've timed out. Now anybody can actually and so of

(01:42:13):
course it's gonna go one of two ways, porn parody
or this horror, which I.

Speaker 4 (01:42:20):
Mean porn's been doing it anyway. I mean they always have,
whether it's the IP has expired or not because they
don't care because they're doing a parody.

Speaker 3 (01:42:30):
But these are you know, the other thing they're to
Most of the owners of the property are loathed to
bring up a lawsuit because all that's going to do
is bring attention to the property.

Speaker 5 (01:42:42):
Right, million million dollar idea for you guys. Okay, with
all this stuff coming in the public domain, I'm going
to steal Ordy's line and go embrace the power of
ann Why are we doing porn and horror separately?

Speaker 4 (01:43:01):
Nice? You know, it just goes back to the dead
teen movies of the eighties and nineties. I mean half
the reason you went and watched those were some titties.

Speaker 3 (01:43:13):
Yeah, the uh because there's always the basic They tried
to couch it as a metaphor for sexually transmitted diseases
or aids. You have sex and you'll die, so don't
have sex.

Speaker 5 (01:43:27):
Or for hosts that grew up on on uh women
in lingerie and the jc any catalog. Trust me, this
is a gold mine.

Speaker 3 (01:43:38):
I'm with you. So yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:43:42):
So now we've got Pinocchio Unstrung coming to theaters soon.

Speaker 3 (01:43:49):
And Robert England is going to play the role of
Jiminy Cricket.

Speaker 5 (01:43:53):
And seriously, all the characters that could be porn.

Speaker 3 (01:43:59):
Exactly there you go, tell me a lie, Tell me
another lie?

Speaker 4 (01:44:03):
Oh Man, line to me, lie to me. Yes, loosely
based Time Carlo Always eighteen eighty three children's novel. Loosely based,
you don't say, I mean honestly Pinocchio, isn't. I mean,
like with all the old fairy tales, really not a
happy ending, but yeah, this one, just the stills of

(01:44:27):
Jimmy Cricket alone looks like it comes out of American
McGee Alice.

Speaker 3 (01:44:33):
I've just I've never understood the I guess popularity of Potinocchio,
Like it constantly gets remade and redone, but it's never
like a smash hit all right, Like I'm literally you've
got Disney's version that everybody knows. What was the follow up?
What was the next time anybody did a Pinocchio? And

(01:44:54):
it was fantastic and everybody loved it.

Speaker 4 (01:44:58):
I couldn't even tell you there was another one. I
know that they exist intellectually, there's a crap to I mean,
I know, intellectually, I know they exist, but I couldn't
tell you anyone other than the original Disney animated that
did anything.

Speaker 3 (01:45:12):
It's like every five years or so. It's like his
version of Pinocchio. Okay, it's kind of like Batman. Gee,
I wonder if his parents will die at the start?

Speaker 4 (01:45:23):
Right, it's like Titanic. You know, the boat sinks in
the end, don't root it?

Speaker 3 (01:45:29):
Yeah, come on too early?

Speaker 4 (01:45:32):
Yeah, this is coming from Richard Blake, who you know
from a Wow Batman begins, Yeah, you did death Machine,
Batman begins, Doom, Rob Zombies, Halloween two, Mandy and Barbarian.

Speaker 3 (01:45:48):
Since a career path here and it's on a dissent
of sorts. But no, I don't know, man, I guess
I mean, like, like, who's the audience for this? Like
who out there is saying, you know, I'm not a
Pinocchio fan but a horror pocho?

Speaker 4 (01:46:08):
No, who is the fan of Blumhouse Films? And they
still make a billion dollars on distribution?

Speaker 3 (01:46:18):
Well yeah, but that's the thing. You you're catering to
an undiscerning, preteen, young teen audience.

Speaker 5 (01:46:29):
And so.

Speaker 4 (01:46:31):
You get the cover of fan Goora, you're making money.

Speaker 3 (01:46:36):
Is that still a publication? Yeah, hard copy of it?

Speaker 4 (01:46:40):
And no, I think it's strictly online like everything else.
I don't even know do they even make magazines anymore?
I mean, I don't spend enough time in doctor's offices.

Speaker 3 (01:46:49):
Yeah, I think with the exception of the AARP.

Speaker 4 (01:46:52):
No, oh, I get that in the mail every month
at in Triple A, I get a lot of a
in the mail. I wish I got a never mind, Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:47:02):
Wow, yeah, it's uh yeah, it is a dying breed.
The magazine print. Nobody's into that anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:47:15):
I can't even joke that. I'm you know, when some
one of these people get fired from WAPPO or something,
I can't say, well, I'm sure you'll have a bright
and storied career. It can't fancy.

Speaker 3 (01:47:27):
Well that might.

Speaker 4 (01:47:29):
That.

Speaker 3 (01:47:29):
I think that's who still publishes. It's basically nonprofits, so
like a SPCA Humane Society a ARP.

Speaker 4 (01:47:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's just bag basically. Yeah. So that's
basically they can sell the ads to get you to
go on the uh Royal Caribbean Princess Cruise or.

Speaker 3 (01:47:50):
The Jitterbug Phone or the Jitterbug All right, well, we
got to get into the streaming numbers because it's just
by law we have to. Yes, we're bidden the.

Speaker 4 (01:48:04):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:48:05):
It's the twenty sixth Amendment. The pocash shell covered the
Nielsen So streaming on the original side of things, Wednesday
takes top spot once again. Netflix. That's just massive over there. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:48:21):
They haven't even released the new season yet. These are
the twelve previous right, This is just everybody catching up
and getting ready.

Speaker 3 (01:48:27):
Yeah, pretty much. I think next chart will have the
new one.

Speaker 4 (01:48:30):
Yeah, two point one billion minutes. Yeah, because this chart
is from August eleventh through seventeen.

Speaker 3 (01:48:36):
So no, I'm head, I'm on the eighteenth. Oh shit,
I got eighteen twenty four here.

Speaker 4 (01:48:45):
Okay, I'm on it.

Speaker 3 (01:48:46):
Okay, really really.

Speaker 5 (01:48:48):
I pulled the information from the link you provided.

Speaker 4 (01:48:52):
Well, here's what happened. Here's what happened, Jeff. You got
the information from the link I provided. They updated it
after I sent it, so when Jeff brought it or
when Brad brought it up, he got the new numbers
because I thought those were the new numbers.

Speaker 5 (01:49:07):
Okay, well I will remove the screen and go back
to the other one then.

Speaker 3 (01:49:11):
Yeah. I think they dropped these on Thursday afternoon. Yeah,
that might be the street date for Nielsen, as they
say in the industry, because we're in the industry and
have to use their terminology.

Speaker 5 (01:49:23):
The other to the talent.

Speaker 4 (01:49:26):
Yeah, and no, my apologies to you, Jeff, because you
put a lot of work into that and I thought
those were the current numbers. Sorry, So another terminology we
didn't use back during the Chimel story. Sweet weeks, those
are coming up. Get that Albumtross off your Neck.

Speaker 3 (01:49:45):
Yes, but now our our buddy Warren over at twitchy
came up with that one that the sweets are starting
around right around Halloween.

Speaker 4 (01:49:53):
Yeah, it's August. It's October thirtieth this year, so go.

Speaker 3 (01:49:58):
So that's just an the reason to dispatch the problem. Yes,
put on family Feud will get better numbers.

Speaker 4 (01:50:09):
My suggestion is they should do reruns of The Man Show.
Corch's legacy completely.

Speaker 3 (01:50:17):
Damn Please do this, ABC, listen to AG buy the
rights from Comedy Central.

Speaker 4 (01:50:23):
Do what you gotta do. Just Adam Krall sign off.
I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (01:50:30):
Okay, that's it for the Evening News, and if you
stay tuned, we'll have women on trampolines and bikinis.

Speaker 4 (01:50:37):
Juggies sing them in so away. Still Wednesday number one.

Speaker 3 (01:50:44):
Yes, it's still lingering and still a twelve episode by
the way.

Speaker 4 (01:50:47):
So this is before still a twelve episode and still
at one point one billion minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:50:53):
This might be a rarity that Prime Video is in
the top five the summer ight term. Pretty a ton
of people are talking about this. I'm I can just
pretty much bring you my critical analysis of this one
chick show. Yeah I didn't watch it.

Speaker 4 (01:51:12):
Enjoy it, ladies, you're on it.

Speaker 3 (01:51:15):
And then Netflix has their their version of thirty for
thirty America's Team The Gambler and His Cowboys, the Dallas
Cowboys doc. I guess you could say King of the
Hill on Hulu. That just dropped five hundred and sixty
seven million minutes watched for two hundred and sixty eight episodes.

(01:51:38):
There you go, all right, Bobby watching again?

Speaker 4 (01:51:45):
Boy, two million minutes per episode. Think about that?

Speaker 3 (01:51:50):
Get you crunching numbers? How about that?

Speaker 4 (01:51:52):
Yeah? Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:51:53):
Fit for TV the Reality of the Biggest Loser. So
this is like a documentary expose on Netflix.

Speaker 4 (01:52:00):
So that show, yeah, oh shit, if s already got
the new graphic made fucking Johnny on the Spot.

Speaker 3 (01:52:06):
Man, look at that. This guy's all about the visuals.

Speaker 4 (01:52:13):
Straight in the Tide Johnny, Netflix.

Speaker 3 (01:52:17):
The Hunting Wives. This is getting a lot of track
and from what I understand, and I've done a public
sampling of some of the audience, I e. Other women,
this is basically their version of Fifty Shades of Gray.
It's like, okay, this was the sampling. I be in
the tavern with all of you know, all of our

(01:52:37):
friends are like starts off this way. Did you see
Hunting Wives?

Speaker 5 (01:52:41):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:52:41):
Not yet? Oh my god, you totally have to see it.
Like the girls just start whispering with each other. It's
like it's very sexual. Is it like.

Speaker 4 (01:52:52):
A lesbian version of it? Because pequed my interest would be.

Speaker 3 (01:52:58):
It's really more of like and I guess, like a
bunch of couples show up so the guys can go
out hunting and then the women like off the chain
sort of thing. Okay, I haven't watched it myself, but
it's like literally every conversation was like that, Oh my gosh,
you totally have to see it.

Speaker 5 (01:53:15):
And then it's like my ratings are increasing as we
talk about this.

Speaker 3 (01:53:22):
Okay, just keep your racings on that side of the board. Jeff,
thank you. Then we got Hostage, Butterfly, Alien Earth and
Love is Blind uk UK.

Speaker 4 (01:53:32):
Version because that's an important distinction. You know what we
haven't seen in a long time, The Great British Baking Show.

Speaker 3 (01:53:41):
Yeah, they're about two, aren't they.

Speaker 4 (01:53:43):
That's I think they are.

Speaker 3 (01:53:45):
We'll have to get the Aggie to start lobbying them all.
Right over on the acquired side, Sullivan's Crossing. I thought
that was an original? How was that acquired? Who they
get it? That is?

Speaker 4 (01:53:59):
At Netflix? Original? Did they get it from?

Speaker 3 (01:54:01):
Because I remember a month or two ago new episodes
coming up. Okay, who'd you just dealing from? You know?

Speaker 4 (01:54:10):
Their their qualification for acquired series is so weird. It's
like if it got one episode on ABC and was
canceled and Netflix picked it.

Speaker 3 (01:54:17):
Up, maybe probably showed up your streaming channel, and then
they bought the rights to it and now it works.

Speaker 4 (01:54:24):
Yeah, I guess. But I mean that's really climbed up
because I think.

Speaker 3 (01:54:28):
That well that literally it's because of the new episodes,
so like a second season just dropped, and Okay, who'd
you acquire from? I have questions?

Speaker 4 (01:54:38):
Right, But moving on Command Answers.

Speaker 3 (01:54:41):
SpongeBob Gray's Anatomy, bluey X, The Big Bang Theory, Bobs
Burger's Animal Kingdom, Family Guy, Paul Pittrol nothing really new
their movies.

Speaker 4 (01:54:51):
A lot of ancest in that too, you know, because
usually you know you'll get some of these on here
that'll be on three different networks.

Speaker 3 (01:54:59):
Multi platform. Yeah, that's the industry term.

Speaker 4 (01:55:03):
Yes, horizontal marketing.

Speaker 3 (01:55:07):
On the movie side, though, this is kind of amazing.
K Pop Demon Hunters like this just uh smokes the
competition though, that's the funny thing. Nine hundred and thirty
million minutes, the next one two hundred and seventy eight.

Speaker 4 (01:55:22):
Yeah, this thing is just going nuts. It's everywhere. I
mean last week when we were our last show, when
we were when we were pulling up stories on the trades,
there were no less than five different stories about K
Pop Demon Hunters, And I'm like, do we want to
talk about it? And we ran out of time anyway
with the content we have.

Speaker 3 (01:55:41):
But still, yeah, it's it's almost becoming like the squid game, Like, yeah,
reallybody has to talk about it? Why? Well, because every
who's loving about it?

Speaker 5 (01:55:49):
Oh yes, I mean to talk about it as someone
who's watched.

Speaker 3 (01:55:54):
It, Yeah, please do. Sure.

Speaker 5 (01:55:56):
It's like a better version of the Spider Man cartoon
movie thing they did with better music and hot women.

Speaker 3 (01:56:06):
I mean there's a crap ton of music. I can
say this because when the seven year old was with
us this summer, she watched about five times and dancing
in front of.

Speaker 11 (01:56:13):
It because that's what she does. Okay, Yeah, things choked
with music good. I mean it's about Cape. I mean, well, yeah,
it's K pop again. Music is wide in the title.

Speaker 5 (01:56:26):
The only thing was most.

Speaker 3 (01:56:30):
Yeah, and they made it for the chilling. That's what
it goes for. So after that it always comes happy.
Gilmour too was still around Hobbs and show that just
dropped on Netflix, so there was an audience for it
to pick up Fail for me Broke Maples Dot, Hotel
Transylvania three, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:56:53):
And here's the thing, Well, yes, why because that's like
three years old. I mean it's just all over Netflix. Yeah.
I think the last time I binged anything on Netflix,
I mean really binged, it was about two or three
years ago. Yet I still pay for the fucking thing.
And that was every every ad spot. I think it

(01:57:15):
was even all over Amazon to promote Netflix. I don't know,
but I just remember those ads would not it's a
weird one.

Speaker 3 (01:57:27):
But in the overall rankings, Wednesday takes it all, they
managed to beat K Pop Demon Hunters.

Speaker 4 (01:57:34):
Two million minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:57:37):
And then it's Sullivan's Crossing. So you got a little
bit of everything there, What movie, what original, what acquired?
SpongeBob of course, graz Anatomy, Blue Eye excellent, Big Bang
Theory Summer, and Bob's Burgers. That'll do it. So hopefully
in the next two weeks already we will have something
a little different to talk about. I'm hoping, hopefully these

(01:58:01):
ass faces in the media will calmb their tits and
stop making asses of themselves about Charlie Kirk and try
to be decent human beings. But this is the entertainment
industry we're talking about. I have no hope for this.

Speaker 4 (01:58:15):
Yes, the odds are not in our favor, No, No.

Speaker 3 (01:58:21):
All I can do is hope and pray for decency
and common sense. What the hell am I thinking?

Speaker 4 (01:58:27):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:58:28):
All right?

Speaker 4 (01:58:29):
I'm sorry? I thought this was America?

Speaker 3 (01:58:33):
So I don't you let everybody know where they can
find more of your content?

Speaker 4 (01:58:37):
Well, Brad, thanks for asking. You can find me Saturday
night on Juxtaposition with Rick As we are kicking off
not quite doing the Juxtober thing, but leading into it,
or we will be talking about Kurston haunted items. You
can find me next week on The manor Rama Show
on Tuesday night, Rick and already on Wednesday night, and

(01:58:57):
that's my light week. I'm I'm pretty cool, all right.
Next week you also find me Sunday on The Vincent
Charles Project and this Sunday and I surprisingly, with everything
going on, I have not been suspended and you can
still find me as Ordinance Packord on Twitter. How about you, rat?
Where can people get more of your magnificence?

Speaker 3 (01:59:18):
I Am going to be covering all of this mayhem
we covered here on the show, but in more detail
over at townhall dot Com and my daily column Rift
from the Headlines, also daily at Red State where I've
got a twice weekly podcast called Liable Sources, and also
on this network. So next Thursday, for instance, I'm gonna
be here with Paul Young from Screen Ramp we go

(01:59:40):
through the dark side of Hollywood and bad movies on
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you name it, We try to have fun with it
and if you need more of me than that, let's
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(02:00:02):
Martini Shark all right already, I think we killed about
two hours of grinning our teeth. They're in pretty good fashion.

Speaker 4 (02:00:10):
I gotta say, yeah, two hours, solid boy, that was
just packed full of jam, wasn't it.

Speaker 3 (02:00:16):
Well. We will keep tabs on what's going on in
the dysfunctional world of Hollywood and we'll be back in
two weeks here on the culture Shift, al Hydra