The Culture Shift with Brad and Ordy: NYT's Jedi Hunt, Cash Explosion

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Speaker 1 (01:01):
What is going on, Kate lrn Land? This is Thursday night,
which means this is your early introduction to the weekend. Yes, yes,
this is the culture shift. How's everybody doing on? Brad
Schlager getting ready to usher you through all of the
back alley studio realm of Hollywood, but not going by

(01:22):
myself here, not doing this alone, because every fortnight joining
me on this tour guide excursion is America's most laser
focused and digitized I'm ash individual Ortie Packard. What's going on?
My brother in California?

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:38):
You know, we're in that lovely schizophrenic weather of spring
in California where Saturday I was in a full blown
snowstorm and contemplated chaining up to get anywhere. And today
it's eighty degrees and I have air conditioner run, so
much like the entertainment industry, the weather is psychotic.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Out here, perfect perfect time. How about you?

Speaker 4 (02:00):
How what's everything going how's it going out in America's wang?

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Well, we are. We're kind of happy out here. It's
cracking me up that we are basically the center of
the hockey universe here in Florida, but it's it's what
we are. We just concluded our series with Tampa last
night and Florida Panthers are moving forward. I'm thrilled. It's
just been uh, just been fun. It cracks me up

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that for the last five Stanley Cup finals, one of
these two teams from Florida's been in it and Canada
is just grinding their teeth and it's it's amazing to watch.
They don't hate us enough, so we're just adding to it. Right.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
I was just gonna comment that Florida has had Lord
Stanley's cupet's possession more often in this century than Canada has.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, I think I think the trophy was created before
we were even something, and yet we possess his very
cup more often than anybody in Canadia. It just drives
them batshit crazy, So bonus kind of for us. So Jiah,
it's been a lot of fun down here.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
Can you blame them? I mean, if your job is
actually on the ice in padding all day long. Do
you really want to walk out of your job into
ice and padding? Yeah, I mean, if were I a
professional hockey player, I would do everything I could play

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in Florida or California.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah. It's kind of funny too that in Buffalo that's
become a sore spot because their general managers just getting
railed on for putting out a team that's just shite
for decades. He said, yeah, but you know, it's tough
for us to compete against these teams that have palm
trees and stuff like that going in their favor, and
people are like, dude, it's Buffalo, this is hockey town.

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So people are bringing inflatable palm trees to the arena.
They're wearing shirts with the Buffalo logo and palm trees
on it and stuff. Just ripping this guy of shreds
and it's n amusing to watch from down here.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
A thing though, Yeah, getting getting Buffalo Hawaiian print shirts.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
That would be I mean, if I were to start
a fan movement, that would be it.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
And those do exist, by the way, which is even
twisting the knife a little more. But no, we're just
we're having a great time with it. And all the
other teams. You know, they say, oh, people in Florida
don't what you're talking about. You don't know hockey. Nobody
goes to the games. It's like, dude, look at the
attendance figures. We're in the top ten every year. You're

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in Boston and fifteen or sixteen. Shut up. Yeah, by
the way, why don't you beat us in the playoffs?
And then we'll talk. They can't, so they don't. But
that's uh, that's one of the diversion as we got going,
and we have plenty of else to look at in
the entertainment realm, do we not? There's a luck going

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on this week? It seems like, you know what it's all.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
It's all digital services again this week. It's like everybody
took the week off for the Tony's or something, which,
as we were talking about before showtime, yours and mind
collective knowledge about Broadway and the Tonys. It took me
longer to explain we're not doing the Tonys than what
we actually know about the Tonys. So it's like I said,

(05:30):
got the butthole version of Cats, I ain't in it.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
I saw there. Wow, he had to work it in
every episode drink it's there. No, I saw it like
I headlined for it. It's like, hey, the Tony Award nominations.
It was like, okay, you know, and I just scrolled
and they I think I got through three of the
titles and said, don don't know think about any of these.
So yeah, you you tabled that, and I was like,

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if you want to, but no, I got straight probably
more material. So yeah, we're not going to sadly cover
the stage productions alas.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
I think we did the Tonys once and there was
that's just because there was some controversy about it. I
also think it was early in the show when we
were trying it out to be all media and then
we said it's just stick with what we know.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Well, I think it was also I think it was
a week where like nothing else was going on. Maybe
I think this theaters might have still been closed, so
there wasn't much else to talk about though Tony's. Finally
we got some entertainment news, you know what it is.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
Also streaming was pretty nascy and then.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Oo, congratulations on the word today calendar usage. Way to go.
But I mean we've covered it before. I think the
last time we really looked at. It was when spam
a lot in theaters, and it's like, hey, I kind
of know what that's about.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
Yeah, I think we had to you know that, and
we were talking about Hamilton. I think that was about it.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Well, yeah, every now and when then we kind of
had to have Hamilton drilled down our throat. I've seriously,
I have tried to watch that play twice. I think
I max out at like the twenty minute mark. It's
just that I don't do musicals. For one. Rapping about
the Founders just doesn't work for me. It's just not me.

(07:24):
You know, I'm not saying it sucks and beat me.
You know, screw Broadway and guy, if you love it,
go to it, enjoy it, love it great. Just doesn't
work for me.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
Sorry, you know what it reminds me of. It's like
a parody of The Simpsons doing a parody of musicals
with the Planet of the Apes the musical.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Which, don't get me wrong, that was a great episode.
Yeah right, I mean, but they were kind of sending
up the musical genre on stage, you know, making it
intentionally bad and such and right, So that's why I
was enjoyable for me. Yeah, I mean, look, I couldn't.
I appreciate she eat, what they go through, what they
do on stage and all of this, but yeah, musicals

(08:06):
just don't do it, and stage productions in general, man.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
So I mean we did a good one. Now, our
stage productions were awesome.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Yes, but that was a radio performance live and yeah,
we that's a completely different animal too. It just yeah,
you got to perform differently. I appreciate voice over work
in general. That's a genre I can connect with, So
it's better. I'm just gonna say that. By the way,

(08:37):
after this show, go ahead and seek out our version
of Alice in Wonderland, recently performed last Friday here at
k l r N.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
It was fantastic. Also the uh then the intermission music
from it that Jeff created using AI will be dropping
on the seventh as well, so.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Check that.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
It's not gotta say last night on a rick and
already it's I mean, I had heard it before, but
then hearing it in the intermission in the context with
everything else we were doing it just hit different and it
was fucking awesome.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yep, fun as always. I just uh, you know, I
like it because you're working without a net, you're doing
it live. Start to finish, no cuts, no brakes. Well,
there is an intermission, but nonetheless, I mean it's not recorded,
we don't. If you screw up, you gotta fly, You
gotta do something. You got to fix it and go.
So it's uh.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
And in the five years we've been doing it, the
biggest scroups have been technically related, like in this one,
you know, when Rick dropped out because of his Internet
and Sarah had some connection problems too, so but you know,
to the rest of us, just you know, like Jeff's
stepping in or Jen stepping in to fill in the
role once they realized there was that break of shit,

(09:53):
we just lost somebody.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yeah, and that they picked up on it because at
some point Jen was taking her part up. Didn't skip
a beat. I mean, she was on it, but I
was like, wait, why is Jen allis? I didn't even
didn't click that there was that problem. She must have
dropped or something. Right, And even in one of my
case scenes that's when she was starting to face the
first half of her sentence, you wouldn't barely hear her,

(10:17):
and the cues were messed a little bit. It's like,
you gotta go, you gotta hit, you gotta go. So
it's fun. They tested and I think we passed with
flying colors. Nonetheless, well, we are here to talk about
more professional people than ourselves. And since you said we
are rather digitally heavy, why don't we start off in

(10:37):
the cinema?

Speaker 4 (10:39):
Is cinema okay?

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Where do you want to go? Just to burp it
out and get it out of our way. So it's
been two weeks at the theater since we've done our
last show, and a couple of it. It's been surprising. Actually,
the h they did one of those throwback re release
is you know, a lot of times now the very

(11:03):
major films when they hit those milestones, it's the twenty
fifth anniversary and so they'll burp it out into theaters
for like five hundred and one thousand screens or something
like that. This one fascinates me because one, I don't
think a lot of people saw it coming, but the
significance of it is what it is. So one of
the original Star Wars movies came out, and I hate

(11:27):
the fact that we have to say the third movie
of all time is actually a sixth in the storyline
or whatever the hell. Great fine, but holy crap, Number
one in the box office. What's up?

Speaker 4 (11:40):
Yeah, I mean, and that tells you how weak the
box office was too, because I mean, not a lot
of I'm breaking in, but for it to come in
at twenty five million, I had the Accountant to minecraft
and until dawn just right behind Centers, and everybody thought

(12:02):
that it would probably be third behind the Accountant two. Yeah,
and we're talking about not Return of the Jedi, We're
talking about Revenge of the Sith. So that tells you
how far Disney Star Wars has sunk. That people are
fucking nostalgic for I hate Sandy.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
It's and that's kind of what I was driving at
is for this to come out and have that kind
of fan reaction, that kind of, you know, just people,
we got to go see this in the theater because
whatever's on streaming sucks. It's kind of the thought process.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Here my Star Wars fix.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
I mean, it's like, oh man, remember back when they
were good, We should go see it. And that's kind
of what's going on here. The last three movie releases
have been kind of like snubbed by the fans are
really really and the streaming success, which we're going to
touch on as well in a moment has been scattershot

(13:08):
as far as support from the fan base. So for
them to go back to this in theaters, it's pretty significant.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
Yeah, you know, when you when when you're at a
point where God I'm missing I mean, the most hated
of the three of the prequels is actually the number
one box office right now because people hate the new
stuff so so much.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, that's I think again, we we always there's so
much wishful thinking. I'm gonna probably have to stop doing this.
But if Disney will one day get the point and
this would have to be something that could be driven
home here that one of the older movies is getting
this as much passion behind it. This doesn't tell you something.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
It did. It did half of the opening weekend of
snow Light.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yeah, there you go, and so Jesus like that. It's
just okay, this is the film that.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
How far the mouse has fallen?

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Originally, though, they remember the animosity for this film. I mean,
for one, people were like Hayden Christiansen, they all wanted
to punch him in the throat and yeah, jar Jar
binks right, which to this day is still kind of
you know, I think he's second only to the Star
Wars Christmas Special. As far as most reviled aspects of

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the franchise.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
Well, they're trying to revitalize him by saying, well, he
was always a Seth. He was the real Seth. So
that's just playing that up a little bit for those
of you, Yeah, the charm for those of you who
don't pay attention to such things. The reason why Star
Wars seems to be topical this week and you're gonna
see it everywhere in three days is May the fourth.

(15:21):
So may the fourth be with you?

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yes, you geeks. Just that's what I'm gonna of course,
crack out my shirt that's like says number one Star
Wars fan, and it's got the Starship Enterprise on it. Yeah,
guaranteed to get a reaction. That one is. I remember
wearing that one time and a guy just he was
staring at me for a good ten minutes and he's like,

(15:45):
I'm isn't that the wrong ship? And I was like,
got it, dude. He ended up buying me a beer
because he's like, I thought I was going crazy. That's hilarious.
It actually had a positive effect, which I never anticipated.
Sore we go, but yeah, this now we are at
the Precipice. Yes of the annual fanboy baroxism that is

(16:12):
May four.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
And Star Wars memes for the ones a year.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
They don't make it out.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
Star Wars posting doesn't make it around like it used
to because they have just so tarnished to the brand.
I could not give a fuck.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah, there's a lot of people when you post that stuff,
you just get out of here with that crap.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
I think about the only one that still endures for
me is when somebody, somebody, you know, they like, put
up a real stupid, crying leftist kind of thing and
I just put up picture of R two D two
with the caption that says sad beep. That one still
holds it for me. I love it. Yeah, yeah, But

(16:53):
everything else is usually going to bring Antagon and it's like,
I don't want to see your spog Wars crab sort
of a bitch back when it was that kind of thing,
and this is it. I mean when I saw Revenge
of the Number two in the box, I was like, wait,
what what because that was the original one we hated.
And then the last three came out and people were

(17:14):
like the hell is going on here? And then streaming
took plays and with maybe the exception of Mandalorian.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
People, I mean a Shoka and Or have been good
on various fellows Tuo, but more missus than hits. Absolutely,
and even you know Mandalorian Shiit the bed won't even
get skin the fucking Book of Boba Fett. They absolutely
castrated one of the most beloved characters of all time.
Well they kind of did that in Revenge of the
Sith too when they turned Vader into a whiny bitch.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Is padme?

Speaker 4 (17:50):
Okay? They're more machine now than man.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
So the darkest Vorsity universe was basically the petulant preteen
is what we're giving us? Really? Yes, okay, so maybe
if Daddy played football with him in New York, the
entire universe would have been spared right.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
Instead, he was the bastard child of medicareans.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
But this is I just find it fascinating now that
this movie actually had like revision is affection.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
They have to retcon it to make it digestible.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
It used to be when this movie was brought up.
It would also generate anchor's like just get the hell
out of here with that, George ar bullshit is pretty
much the reaction you used to get, and now it's like, look,
I'll tolerate him because the rest of the movie's actually
not bad compared to what we got out.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
Yeah, it's like, you know, it's like watching The Lord
of the Rings when you just skip through the salmon
froto parts. If you just skip through anything with Anakin
in it, you're okay.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
That's when you do that. The fan edit as opposed
to the director's cut. No, we actually want less and
it gets better. Yeah, tell you something to run time.

Speaker 4 (19:10):
I cut it down to eighty and it's pretty fucking good.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Well, you you gave a little bit of a tease
there for our segue because you mentioned and Or, which
was this is a series I was. I'm gonna say
this sadly overshadowed because it was good. It pains me

(19:35):
well that, but it also pays me to bring it up.
I think the Acolyte just drew so much heat, and
maybe by heat I should say venom, and rightfully so.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
Right out of the franchise.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah, like and Or just kind of I think it
was a case where people at that point were like,
wait a second, this is good. What do we do
with it?

Speaker 4 (20:00):
I think I can explain this one. Dude, did you
see and Or? It's fucking good? Don't tell anybody.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Just watch.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
Don't tell anybody. Let everybody else just think it's ship too,
because if people know it's good, they'll fucking ruin it.
So they committed seasons. Just let them fart out the
second season and just we'll we'll praise it later, but
don't don't.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
If the executives find out as a hit, that's when
they're gonna put Kathleen Kennedy on Quase and.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
Box that Kennedy won't touch it. Just leave that as
a farvaro thing.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
And I can't get my messaging out if somebody doesn't
watch it, So screw and Or and everybody starts rubbing
their hands my evil excellent. Instead of posting it on
your timeline, you're just dming your friends. Go watch it.
Don't tell anyone, right, But yeah, Indoor is basically set

(20:56):
up as if you know, people haven't seen it. It's
kind of the backstory of the entire franchise, if you will,
because it shows how the Rebellion was formed or what
developed into the Rebellion. It's not the big space opera.
There's not a lot of laser shooting and robots and

(21:19):
all of that. It's almost like film noir, which I loved.
You know, you get there, you get the big sets,
and you do get you know, everything is futuristic. But
at the same time, it's just not belching out a
lot of that sci fi porn. It's almost as if
it's a gritty nineteen fifties detective story set three hundred

(21:41):
years in the future. Yeah, which is cool. I think
it worked and you're like wow, and you're actually paying
attention to the story as a result.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
So the difference and or is two Star Wars what
the Netflix MCU was to the rest of the mc
You that's how That's how I can describe it.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah, it's it's a lot leaner production, and by that
I don't mean cheap. But they just don't go with
you know, if they say, you know, there'll be a gunfight,
well what if there's eighty people having a gunfight? It's
usually the answer and they're like, here, no, no, let's
just just to have the two of them. Let's do that.
And it works. Yeah, they trim the fat, go with

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the story, let it run and stand on its own,
and it works.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
Yeah, you've got one good fight scene per episode maybe,
And but as you know, again going back to the
Netflix MCU analogy, every episode of Daredevil or Luke Cage,
we don't talk about iron fists here. Ever, they would
have like one running shot, long running shot fight sequence

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and that was it. The rest of it was just
fucking exposition and dialogue and h and towers a lot
like that too.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, there's no funny robots, there's not cute little ewoks.
What are they doing and telling joke? I mean there's
actually character development, there's plot, and it's like, wow, this
is like storytelling. Yeah, and it works. Yea. So we're
bringing this up because the second season has finally arrived.
Now they're calling it the final They've been vacillating between

(23:30):
making this a five year arc or a three year
and now they've kind of decided two two. Yeah, I
guess so. And it's uh, you know, so they're expanding
things a bit and setting it all up, and I
guess this is going to mean they're going to compress
everything too into basically just jam backstory and exposition in

(23:53):
order to set this up as the proper prequel.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
That's some mistake, but whatever.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Yeah, it's kind of like, uh, I almost wonder if
this isn't a result of the Bobbeiker here, because they
actually finished this before he came out with that new
proclamation a couple months ago that they're going to drop
a billion dollars on new stuff, but most of that's
going to parks now, Oops, Okay, screw and Or. That's

(24:21):
what it is.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
Which if you know, we talked about Galaxy's Edge a
lot too. If they had actually made Galaxy's Edge like
out of and Or and set it out of a sequel, Fuck, dude,
I'd go to that.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
It would be cool. It would be cool. But as
it's coming out now, of course, it's impossible for anybody
in the entertainment journalism sector to look at something without
injecting our current political climate in this country into the process.

(24:58):
Over at New York Times of all bla. That's the
only reason I even bring us up. Anyone else I
would have been like off with this. And Or shows
how a resistance is built, one brick at a time.
In the best of the Disney Plus Star Wars series,
returning for its final season, Fighting fascism is more than
just a joy ride. Yes, this entire series, according to

(25:26):
James Panawasak, is an allegory of the Trump era.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
That's like when you, you know, when you're looking at
clouds and you see a kitten or a dragon projecting
your mind onto someone.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
I thought you're gonna say, oh, it's a guinea cat,
and someone next to you is like, now those are
thermonuclear warheads. Yeah, you know that. It's like a war
shock test in the sky is what that?

Speaker 4 (26:00):
Yeah, and that's what is if you're looking for meaning
other than just good fucking storytelling verse that you once loved, Yeah,
my little too fucking online.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yeah you are.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yeah. Basically this is I almost get the sense that
he may have gone to an editor's like, hey, there's
a new Disney Plus series out called and Or I
want to review it, and are you going to be
able to got to put any Trump stuff in there?
Of course, And he's like, I could. I almost wonder,
like this is a New York Times, but it's got

(26:39):
to involve Trump. I don't think we can run it right.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
To make an allegory and a teaching lesson. You might
as well just ship it off to screen ran.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
This is the same mentality that you know goes to
the professional sports leagues and tries to demand that they
do protest stuff on court, on field, what have you.
You know, how come you don't have a Black Lives
mannor banner on the back of the field goal post
and stuff like that. Because when people want to get
away from the day to day political nonsense and mayhem

(27:11):
and just watch a sport, get it out of her brain. Pan.
Now they still need a lecture there too, same thing here.
I just want to watch Star Wars movie. But no, no,
you can't be diverted and watch a series. You need
a lecture attached to this. This is Waznak coming up
with this. This whole thing is about our current culture. Now,

(27:36):
I'm gonna call bullshit on this, James, not for our audience,
but for James. Here on two points. One being as
we said, this is all being set up as a
prequel to the Star Wars franchise series of films. They're
building off existing content, James, They're setting up for that. Now. Yes,
they were fighting an evil force. You're always going to

(27:57):
have an evil force regardless. Okay, it could be a
global pandemic war, or it could be I don't know.
Pete going after Kentucky Fried Chicken. There's a bad guy. Okay,
you know see here's the dark Force representes Vader. Yeah,
got it, James including good on you. Well. The second

(28:17):
reason that this is not a message from Disney about
Donald Trump. They actually wrapped on this series around December
of twenty three.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
Yeah, it's been in the can a while.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah. In fact, it was written in twenty two, long
before Trump even mentioned running again. Oh yeah, but fascism
was still Purkle hitting and we were talking about it. Fine, yes,
do it. Burn out your fascism monologue, do what you
have to find, get it out of your set. I mean, hell,

(28:57):
this is this is what drives me crazy. Though. It
is like something comes out now. Oh this is a
message to Trump. Yeah, except they shot it a year ago, jackass.
This thing's been finished for a while. It's been post
for quite a few months before the election. I'm sorry, but.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
They hadn't even started the primaries yet when this was
in post.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Yeah. I mean they wrote the first series. I think
it almost during the pandemic when it brought like ate
twenty twenty is when they started writing it and Disney
was like, you know, hell, yeah, let's get a second
season going now, and they started writing it then. So yeah,
this was like right in the sweet spot of the
Biden era.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
If anything, I imagine how truncated your comprehension of time
has to be. That we're one hundred days into Trump's
presidency and for him to assume that this was written, produced, edited,
and released all in the last one hundred days to

(29:59):
send a messag about Trump.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yeah, I mean on uh on November three, they were
still convinced Kamala was gonna win. So I'm sorry they
didn't start cutting drafts on this and begin shooting on
the six. We're gonna get Trump. Funt no, shut up, stop,
all right, you scrap everything.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
We're going back. We gotta get Trump, so and the
master rights.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
And but he he trots out as much as possible here.
This is what cracks me up. And the funny thing
is he doesn't sage Trump by name in this and
whoa how do you know, Brad? How do you know
that he's going after Trump? This is I'm quoting now
from the article. The conflicts too may seem familiar, even
more so as the second season unfolds. Imperial troops search

(30:46):
for the undocumented amid a security panic that is manufactured
amplified by media outlets to justify the crackdown in the Empire,
disappears people to prison and gulags with no hope of return.
It bullies a small territory, undermining its autonomy to gain

(31:07):
control of valuable natural resources Canada and greenland. Right there, folks,
right Jesus even Senator's way whether it is safe to
speak out against the growing civil liberties violations. Gee, I
wonder who they're talking about.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
Well, yeah, I mean we could have it wrong. They
could be talking about Biden and just didn't get the
story released in time. This is a given that, as
the New York Times, probably not.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
You just know that he had a legal pad with
a line drawn down the middle on the left side,
show notes and plot lines on the right side, Trump
in bold letters, and probably in a black crayon front
of a bitch undocumented. Yeah. I just that's why I
love these people. I mean, the media is bad enough,

(32:03):
but entertainment media is horrific, and the worst is sports media.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Yeah, I mean, yes, absolutely undigestible.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Because with sports, I mean already when they're talking about
the sports and what goes on there you know, it's
basically am radio on paper, but then when those people
drift into social and political, it's like, forget about it.
It's like, dude, you were stupid talking about home runs.
Do not get into tariffs please for your own sake.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
So yeah, you know, I think entertainment writing hit its peak,
absolute peak for pure, unrefined retardium. Was the uh all
the media trying to get paw Patrol canceled because of
the BLM movement.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
We're anti cop and we can't have a puppy dog
wearing a police uniform.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
And in how the media tripped over themselves to push
that narrative, that's when I just went, this entire sector
is fucking gone.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
And it's you know, you've got a hyper leftist industry
and journalism to begin with, and they're covering an even
more hyper leftist industry in Hollywood. Things aren't going to
go awry, it's inevitable. My favorite of all time and
entertainment journalism was Harvey Weinstein because basically the whole rape

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thing broke, and the first thing everybody was saying, it's like,
oh yeah, that's been an open secret for years. It's like,
do you realize that's not a good thing.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
Yeah, you know there's an indictment on you, not society.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Yeah, it's a rewrite. We scrub that. Can can we
change them?

Speaker 4 (34:03):
Well we got that men in Black memory eraser thing,
so that way the world will know I didn't.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
And then I mean, I'm still to this day amazed
by Sharon Waxman, who said, you know, back when I
was at the New York Times, I was trying to
break this and the editors lock this story down. I
had this story seven years ago. Okay, Sharon, you have
your own publication now.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
Right, not only that, pretty sure Twitter was around seven
years ago. Oh you can't print it, but you have
the proof. Well that kind of makes you immune. So
do the breaking shit that everybody else does on social media.
Tell your tale and then let the New York Times
regret not letting you run it.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Yeah. She tried to come out and say, oh, you know,
the Harvey got to the editors and Matt Damon showed
up at the newspaper to convince him to take it
down and bury the story. And it's like, great, well,
you haven't been at New York Times in six years,
and you've I had your own outlet for five years.
Where's your Weinstein's story there, Sharon. Yeah, but she can't

(35:07):
do it because if she did, she pissed off the studios.
Studios would lock her and her people out, the ages
would lock her out, and her entertainment rag would have
nobody to contact for content. So yes, she had to
play the game too. So the best thing for you
to do, Sharon is not even bring up this subject again.
We hear at the Culture Shift are not scared of

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these things.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
So yeah, that goes another topic we' we talk about
later with the books just so hot right now, but
this is this is what we're dealing with now.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
So yes and Door is an allegory for Donald Trump
current presidency, written three years ago and filmed two years ago.
Uh uh, got it?

Speaker 4 (35:58):
Nailed it there?

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Uh New York Times, well done. I mean you managed
to go a full day without mentioned Oh no, there's Trump. Okay,
you mentioned it.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
Good, you hit your quota for the hour Trump.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Love it?

Speaker 3 (36:15):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (36:15):
All right? Where do you want to go? I'm like,
I'm struggling for.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
While we're talking about blaming Trump for shit, we gotta
go with the Serrus XM losses boom perfect.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Yes, serious XM. This a little bit of surprise. I guess,
I don't know. It seems like to me, you know,
radio when podcasting is still a hot commodity, evidenced by
the fact that you're listening to one now but.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Anywhere. I'm listening to XM, you know, first Wave, my
favorite channel.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
So now we got it in the car. I mean,
we flip around all the time, especially the wife because
I bought it for so now it's hers right for
her birthday about seven years ago. When I'm still paying
the price for that. It's mine car, I'm doing it.
I'm it's like my name's on the account still. So
she's only just now warming up to Jimmy Buffett Mark.

(37:15):
I'm starting to listen to that now. I told you
the guy's a genius. But they're uh, they're suffering. And
the numbers are what shocked me here but three hundred
million loss.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
But it's a hit.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
I just don't I'm trying to figure out why, and
I am sorry, but I'm not buying the excuses. It's
just not.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
Buried in the lead. Okay. They're actually up from their
loss last year. In the first quarter of they lost
last year, they lost three hundred and fifty nine thousand
self pays in the first quarter this year, it's three
hundred and three thousand self pays, So I mean it's
a lower loss, but they still have thirty three million subscribers,

(38:05):
so one percent less than one percent. But I would
have to say the reason why if you wanted to
put a blame on this, because this is a year
to year trend, I would actually have to put the
state of the economy over the last four years rather
than after the last four weeks.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Yeah, the what we're driving at here as far as
the Trump issue goes, is they're trying desperately to say
tariffs have affected them, which.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
Yeah, they said due to tariffs and uh, the lack
of new car sales, how there was a rush to
buy cars early and then and then obviously once the
tariffs sid that, you know, car sales have dropped, and
so they're trying to blame that. But here's the problem
with their and this is the kind of thing that
you have to kind of read between the lines and understand.

(39:02):
You know, what they're talking about losing is they didn't
lose three hundred and three thousand subscribers. They lost three
hundred three thousand self pays. What that means is those
are the people who have already used their free ninety
days that comes with their new Toyota, or their your
free sixty days that comes with their new phone if
it's one of the phone features. So I mean, these

(39:26):
are the people who are subscribers, not testing it out.
So the new car angle doesn't work because the tariffs
haven't been in place for ninety days. And I know
it's car maker to car maker, but generally you get
your first ninety to one hundred and twenty days of SERRUSXM.
If your car comes equipped with SERIOUSXM, you get that
for free. That's the bait yo. So it's one of

(39:50):
those things you sign up and then you just never
cancel it because it's a pain in the s and
you enjoy it. You've found a couple channels you like
on it, and you don't have to worry about going
through tunnels and everything. Well, I mean you still do,
but you know, you know what I mean. So there's
a buffer so you can get through an underpass without
losing the signal and like an am anyway, But you

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have to talk about the self pays, which tariffs don't
have a fucking thing to do with that, honey.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Well no, it also doesn't add up mathematically because when
they're saying that there was a rush of car purchases
before the tariffs hit, that should compensate, because then you
would have four to eight weeks of increased car buying
prior to the tariffs. At the most, it should have
been offset.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
You should have been higher, you should have had more.
I mean, yeah, you're gonna feel it in the second quarter,
but not what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
It's like a yeah, the worst is you would have
broke even, but if anything, yeah, you definitely should have
seen an uptick. And the very fact that you're blaming
tariffs for your bad report, and yet you lost less
money this your revenue wise than you did last year
if anything out tally either. Yeah, So this sounds like

(41:08):
an excuse as opposed to an explanation, because you know,
these are the things that when you have a bad
economic quarter, you'll look for any explanation to appease people. Oh,
the box office was bad that month because remember that volcano,
and people stopped going to the theaters for a couple
of weeks because of the ash that fell and oh no,

(41:32):
you didn't realize that was an effect. Yeah, that's that
was totally out of your hands. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
It was not my fault. So Serious ex em was
saying tariffs affected them.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
Well, here's the same investor call. Okay, so everything we've
talked about up to now has come from Jennifer Wiz,
who is the CEO of Serious XM. So in the
same investor call, you have Tom Berry, the CFO, saying, uh,
big picture, we sleep well at night. We've modeled multiple scenarios,

(42:07):
and we do not expect any material terrif related impact
on the subscriber results this year. So sorry, did you
do not share notes before this call?

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Basically what he's saying is then they had no idea
to know the tariffs were coming, and they've already gamed
out the coming year to mitigate the effects of the tariffs. Yes,
so it was out of our hands, but we're very

(42:41):
sly about how we're going to get through this. Uh huh.
Back in November when he was talking tariffs, though, you
didn't have a plan in place. I'm confused. Maybe it
wasn't like people woke up Monday and said oh, Trump's
got this brand new terrifi idea, no idea, this was

(43:01):
He's been talking terrorff since before the election. I'm sorry
this didn't surprise you, is what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
Going back to Wits in the same call, looking to
twenty twenty six and beyond, in general, we would believe
that new car sales reduction would be in part offset
by used car sales.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Okay, uh huh. And like we said, we found an
excuse for this quarter. We're gonna use it right.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
Get this quarter they should have taken rather than showing
two bad quarters in a row. I mean, yes, it's
no good thing to lose three hundred thousand subscribers when
you've got thirty three million. But on the other hand,
you have a win baked into it where you didn't
lose as many as the previous year's quarter. You know,

(43:57):
take a negative, turn it into a positive. That's fucking CEO.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
One on one. Well, the uh I think this is
why you and I are not invited the movie sets
and other things is because we look at things from
a factual basis, and that has no no place in
the entertainment industries. Who it is, assholes? Get those numbers

(44:22):
out of here. No, it's just I don't know. Well,
it's again, it's it's the entertainment economy. It's why I
love this so much that in one sales call they
can contradict each other and have it make perfect sense
for the investors.

Speaker 4 (44:41):
You know, I bought XM stock when it went public.
Reading this, I'm very happy I sold two years ago.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
Yeah, I mean they're still losing two billion a year.
They they've been at this for decades. Okay, actually, I'm serious.
Were it was the hottest thing going and everybody wanted it,
and they were competing against each other, and they were like,
we're losing our asses. Let's combine things. So now they're
except serious and this is they're still at it. They're

(45:21):
still losing. At some point in time, Is this going
to be viable? Is my question?

Speaker 4 (45:26):
You know what, I think it's kinda They're going to
be around until the last satellite de orbits.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Right, I'll say this cut Howard's thorn loose save money there,
because he's just become nothing but a whiny, cranky sob anymore.
I mean, he's not even edgy. It's it's just like
I'm scared to go outside because of you COVID people.

Speaker 4 (45:51):
They really should have leaned into opening Anthony instead of Stern.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
And Uh, I mean, and you know Rogan was there.
Imagine if Rogan was on with them, where they'd be.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
Yeah, yeah, I mean what you're paying Stern shed that
dead skin and uh, put up a few more satellites
over Europe and expand your base.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Yeah. I guess they were convinced that Stern was just
going to be their golden calf and bring everybody on board.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
And it's like I was for a decade and then
COVID brain broke COVID and Trump brained well, no more
COVID than Trump brain broke him.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Yeah. I And like I've said, we've had it for years.
I don't think I've listened to Stern once on it.
I think the woy bets sometimes, but not me. Wife.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
The last time I listened to Stern on it and
then we changed it to see what was happening with
the World Trade Center. He put you in historical context
for the last time I listened to Howard's got It.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Yes, I see, I like it is because of whatever
the hell's going on, you could pretty much find something
on your so, I mean, you're all crap. You got
your political talk on there. If you're in the car
during a game, it'll be on there live. You can listen,
and it doesn't matter what NBA, NFL, NHL, you can listen.
You got it all.

Speaker 4 (47:20):
And you got three fantastic comedy channels for whatever kind
of comedy you're into.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
And pretty much any music genre you want. They've got
multiple chances to Maitaville. I think they're up to like
six or seven different country channels now, and we're always
slipping around and making new discoveries. They rotate some they'll
have a Billy Joel channel, and then it'll become the
bon Jovie channel, and then this other artist, and it's

(47:49):
just it's kind of cool, kind of fun. I mean,
you could scroll through this whole damn thing and find
all kinds of stuff. You're gonna hear something eventually you like, yeah,
you don't need starting and many. I think they re
upped his contract a few years ago. That's the thing
that blew my mind. It's like, whoa why why don't
compete for Rogan? Or look at these podcasts that are

(48:13):
making a crap ton of money, bring them in.

Speaker 4 (48:15):
I mean, I know you don't have Spotify money, but
you know, ask for rebroadcast rights or something.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Well, I just I pretty damn sure they're paying stern
close to what Rogan was making. But you're right, and
the difference is Rogan delivers. That's the thing I don't uh,
but this is why they don't consult me, because we
make too much damn sense here. Yeah, but on the

(48:47):
on that front, as far as spending money goes, I'm
kind of surprised by this. What's that Roku dropping a
crap ton of money.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
Let's hold that into Let's go to break and then
hold it and come back after.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Are we there? Are we look at that? Yeah? I
got I was too busy buried in show notes to
look at the clock because I'm professional. But all right, yeah,
it makes sense. Let's do that then, So everybody stand up, stretch,
hit the lobby, get your refills, and we'll do the
same and be back here in about three minutes and
change with even more here on the culture shift.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
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more than a bad how more than a flame more

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than some prettifice beside a train. And it's not easy.
Soup be he me. Wish that I could cry, fall
upon my knees.

Speaker 5 (50:26):
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Speaker 3 (51:13):
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Speaker 5 (51:46):
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Speaker 6 (51:59):
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Speaker 3 (52:13):
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Speaker 4 (52:21):
Common man.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
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Speaker 1 (52:38):
Alright, and we are back the culture shift and uh
we can use a little bit of UH five for fighting.
It's a nice little intro, nice little segue. Yeah, but uh,
you've got some Superman news for us, do you not already.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
We got Superman news. And also yea, in keeping with
the metaphor, Roku is just a little engine that could
you know.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
That's okay. I just thought I was going to use
the cube, but yeah, let's go there Roku. This kind
of cracks me up because they've just become kind of
an industry standard in such as just a quiet fashion
and you get a TV, you got it. If you

(53:29):
don't have a TV with it, you get it. And
it's just become part of what anybody does. There're to
the point now where Roku has their own televisions.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
Well, and what kills me is it's it's the stream
we'll call it a streaming service now, even though there's
some hardware involved for some people, it's the streaming service
that next to nobody talks about.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
I know you have it.

Speaker 4 (53:52):
I know a couple other people that have it, but
aside from we're talking about when we're talking about it
on the show with their gains like this, I never
hear anybody talk about it.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
Yeah, and it's it's just quietly become the de facto
platform because it used to I mean go back but
five ten years ago, Firestick was the thing to do right,
and then TV started having smart app built into it
and things of this nature. I don't know if maybe
that was on the Roku hardware platform or not, but

(54:27):
you know, Roku basically was a direct competitor of Firestick
initially and it worked. And the thing is, it is,
like you always talk about how on Disney Plus the
user interface sucks, Roku is just damn deasy. You don't
even think about it.

Speaker 4 (54:45):
You just go and so, yeah, you got most bring
services of the UX sucks. Amazon has decided to suck.
They used to be good and now they've decided to
make it more complicated. If you're like binging a show
and fell asleep and missed a couple episodes and you
want to go back and uh yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
But Rokuf's just I mean, it makes sense. You can
get a remote with the volume mindy. You can get
a remote with voice prompt on it, and you don't
think about it. It just you just do it and
it works. In fact, we just you know, somebody had
a deal on televisions or something and brother in law

(55:24):
bought like three on the cheap and then turn out
didn't ey Moe, He's like put it in the other
room from when the granddaughter comes into summer, We're like, great,
it's a Roku television and everything is right there and
you already know everything. They basically become McDonald's of streaming.
Whatever you're doing, whatever you're using, you already know it.
It's there. Put it an account number. And that's the

(55:45):
hardest thing you got to do, if you've got to
type on screen, and then you're done. Everything is there
for you, your stuff, your shows, your apps, and they've
done it sublimely and it's there. So they've become that
successful and now they're starting to flex their monetary muscle.

(56:06):
It seems.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
Yeah, now they're starting to spend. You know, they're I mean,
they're not spending an Amazon or Netflix levels, but you
know this is a this is a respectable buy now.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
I gotta be honest, I'm not familiar with this one.
Friendly TV.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
Yeah, they do.

Speaker 4 (56:26):
They do a lot of the wholesome stuff. It's they
they're like a small version of you're like Hulu TV,
where you know they have you with what happens to
be on that network right now and it's a Hallmark
lifetime you know, just family friendly TV. That's why it's

(56:48):
Friendly TV. F R and d L. I hello, friend,
So we hate vowels, but they.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Yeah. There. Now they're to the point obviously acquisition and content,
and it happens too. I mean, we'll be doing something
and there's a show the wife wants to watch or something,
and it'll be on the Roku channel and go for
it and just not even aware of how that works,

(57:19):
because they have a platform that pretty much mirrors Pluto
at times, but other times they've got their own stuff.
And there's some female medical show that she loves and
Whoopi Goldberg made it years ago, something about medicine, blah drama.
She watched it, and then all of a sudden she's like, oh,
they're taking it off a Roku. And then a month
or two later it's back on Roku and she's excited.

(57:44):
Where to go. Netflix didn't steal it's it's back, huh.
But there there's the point how they're interacting and drawing
and it's working. It's hilarious because I mean, I think
they're bargain base version is like what twenty bucks for
the receiver and plug in. You can go all the

(58:05):
way up to ninety nine for the max version. I
think I'm not sure how I think that's got storage
capability and such on it, but it's.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
Just yeah, I think, yeah, it's it's got a pretty
deepent sized DVR on it.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
And but I've you know, like we got the new
the new TV, and I just plug something in. All
of my apps that I've already loaded on are there,
and whatever you need, it's boom, pulls it right up.
And you could just navigators always and it's there, pull
it up, done, go seconds and you're watching it works

(58:41):
and they do it.

Speaker 4 (58:42):
So Yeah, and this has kind of an argument, is
I mean, because there's next to no difference really between
getting you know, like a Visio or a you know,
a Samsung or a Sony or Toshiba anymore. And given

(59:02):
the nature of the streaming market, it's almost more economical
to go out and shop for TVs based off of
what apps they have rather than a name brand.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
Yeah, I'll go with that, because if the apps you use.

Speaker 4 (59:18):
The most, and then all you got to do is
add that other app on, you're ready to go out
of the box, like you were talking about.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
Yeah, And as far as adding apps too, Roku's about
as easy as it gets because I've been on the
Firestick and others where there's a particular one we wanted
to pull up and couldn't for one reason or another
and kind of meant it. It's like, screw it. Just
go to Rocue and see if they got Yeah, there
it is, boom, pull it up. Got it. You know,
we work off a Plex a ton because myself and

(59:46):
my brother in law we've got a crap ton of
movies on our Plex account. So Plex operates as its
own but you can add your library to it, which
is awesome. So you know, it's a couple times a
week as one or the other. Hey you got this show, Brad,
you got this one? The movie I want to see
or something, and we'll download it and put it on
Plex and then we'll watch it. And for some reason,

(01:00:08):
Firestick doesn't want to doesn't want to go that way.

Speaker 4 (01:00:10):
So it's driving me nuts. With Amazon TVs, is that
I got one of the TV's in my house. It's
a it's a fire TV. And lately, after three years,
I keep getting warnings that my storage is getting full.
So you know, I'm deleting out the apps that I can.
And you're just like with an iPhone or with an

(01:00:32):
Android phone, there's some apps that it won't let you delete.
Those are the apps that are taking up the most
space on the TV.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Geez.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
I mean I'm having to delete out half a good
half of the surg services that I may watch sometimes
so that way I can keep fucking Amazon kids. I
don't have children, But you can't un install it and
that thing takes up like two gigs, where Hulu takes
up like fifty four meg. But I've got to sit

(01:01:03):
there and debate, well, I can't. I can't delete that,
So goodbye britt Box.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
You know. Yeah, and yeah, how many of those damn
British apps are there? I mean there's brick Box, you
can get BBC channel, there's another an A Corner or
something else and that's British dramas and yeah, do one please? Geez.

Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
I mean you know BBC owns the rights to all
of it anyway, because there's State TV.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
So just that's my point, is like what? And then
I had to laugh about it. There was one day
we were we were flipping around and there was some
garbage American movie. Of course, I was like, oh man,
it is quick, well channel you're watching is on, and
it literally was BBC America. Right, hold on, what why

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is it?

Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
Before the toggling between HBO or sorry Max and Disney,
BBC America used to be the only place you could
get to Doctor Who's mm hmm, but oh sorry, only
the new Doctor Who's. You had to get print box
to get the ones before Peter Davidson.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
So anyway, that's yeah, that's probably the most maddening thing
about streaming these days. You have to figure out where
everything's migrating because contracts will end and drop off of
this system and go to another. And by the way,
Madame Secretary is about to go away from Netflix, warning,

(01:02:34):
I can't wait to see who picks that up. I'm
guessing Paramount because that was.

Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
Wed to Paramount because I think it was originally an
NBC show, and that just makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
I thought it was CBS.

Speaker 4 (01:02:48):
Was the CBS, and then.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
It's one of the few Hollywood political productions that I
can watch because it's not blatantly party specific. I mean,
you can figure a few things out here, but you
can get by it at the same time, unlike Westling.
I'm just saying, yeah, I actually enjoyed the show. I'll

(01:03:12):
go that far. Well, to get back to our original segue,
then I gotta love lawyers. You gotta love them. Yeah, so.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
This is.

Speaker 4 (01:03:29):
We'll talking about Superman, right, yes, yes, yeah, so this
is okay, this is how you know that a family
did not manage its money well.

Speaker 5 (01:03:41):
In that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:43):
Finally, because we needed another reboot of Superman. The next
reboot of Superman had pretty much been green light, green
light because the the family of Superman co creator Warren Perry,
who is Joe Schuster's nephew, has been trying to stop it,

(01:04:06):
saying you don't have the rights for it because British
common law says that all rights revert back to the
family twenty five years after the death of the creator.
So that would mean that the rights in the UK, Ireland,
Australia and Canada have reverted back to Shuster's surviving relatives.

(01:04:33):
So this has gone to court and the judge in
this says, well, that's all fantastic. This is the wrong court.
You have no standing here. This is an American court.
We can't rule on what foreign governments and their copyright
laws say. So, which is surprising for a court to

(01:04:56):
actually admit that they don't have the right to do
something in the current year. But so it was basically suggested, look,
you don't have standing here, but I don't actually know
what British common law is. So what you're going to
have to do is you're going to have to file
a lawsuit in the UK, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, Canada

(01:05:20):
individually and see what they say.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
My question is this, and again I'm not a lawyer,
just played one on television. Superman wasn't created in those countries.

Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
No, but the copyright laws in those countries.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
But why would they apply.

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
I mean the same way with foreign distribution of films.
I would gather.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
Because that's you know, that would be like a court
in Los Angeles trying to argue about the rights of
crocodile dundee in America. It's like shut up, it's an
Australian thing. It's like what and you can't release it
in this country and the rights go back to the family.
The family is in America, the products in America. How
are you dictating where the rights go in another country.

(01:06:11):
I'm maybe I'm cursed with my pragmatism in a playing
common sense and legal issues, but.

Speaker 4 (01:06:20):
It's a hail from the family because, like I said,
they probably just didn't manage their money.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
Well, well, clearly it's desperity.

Speaker 4 (01:06:28):
You got to pay us for rights if you want
to release it outside the United States.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
Sorry, well then f off. It won't go to Britain.
How about that? Yeah, I mean I don't see how
that's a lost really, because this thing is going to
make a crap ton of money wherever it gets released.
And there you go just to I don't know, fold
in a completely unrelated but we're talking about movies playing

(01:06:55):
overseas is where I'm going with this. That's one of
the few areas where tariffs I think can become a
factor because Trump has basically shown that he's about his
fluid on this with any country out there, with one
exception and that being China.

Speaker 4 (01:07:13):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
China has basically said, well then screw it. Your American
movies aren't gonna play here.

Speaker 4 (01:07:23):
Now, which point America says, oh, does that mean they'll
be good again? Yeah, that's not just three boots of
safe content.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
Because I mean, you know, like again, I have talked
about it on our show before with the tariffs and
the panic and the stock market and everything else, and
it's just like tariffs aren't written in marble. You know,
you could tear it up the next day, as he
has shown repeatedly over the last few weeks, and well,
this one's not a tariff, and you're not gonna have
a tariff on these products, and small business will be

(01:07:52):
exempted there. You know, everything is fluid when it comes
to this crap, So freaking out about it made no
sense to start with. Really, I think the only thing
that's going to be screwed is going to be the
major studios with the supremely huge movies that would play
in China, and those are the only ones that do
go to China.

Speaker 4 (01:08:12):
Yeah, because as we've talked about in the past, China
only allows max. Twenty American movies a year. So that's
why there's like with the ones that they spend a
quarter billion dollars on, they make sure it is as
sanitized and digestible for Chinese, not even the Chinese population,

(01:08:32):
for the Chinese government as they can make it and
still have it not seem like chicom propaganda.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
I mean, basically, when it came to movies, the Chinese
market is gravy for Hollywood.

Speaker 4 (01:08:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
I don't think I can find one movie out there
where you may have a handful over the last fifteen
to twenty years that China's box office tip the scale
into profitability. For the most part, you already made your
money before you go there, and you will have those
occasional films, you know, maybe like Skyscraper with the Rock

(01:09:11):
where everybody was like this kind of sucks, and then
it goes to China and they loved it, right, rare instance.

Speaker 4 (01:09:20):
Or that Tom Chow Gun movie whatever it was.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
That very description shows you how it played here in
the States, right, Tom Cruise. But it's yeah, I don't
think Hollywood actually is going there. I mean they'll feel it,
you'll probably you know, some some of the blockbusters could
make one hundred million in China or something at times.

(01:09:47):
But for the most part, even a lifespan, there is
about three weeks you put a Spider Man movie in
China and after a month it's pretty much gone. So
you're just you're just kind of padding an already bloated
bank account on that movie when you to China.

Speaker 4 (01:10:01):
Yeah, that that's all that is, is just running up
the scarboard.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
Yeah, the you know, and the big difference, of course
is the whole co production aspect, where if it if
you incorporated Chinese production companies with the make and of
the film, then you're in the market and you get
a little bit of a bigger box office cut as
opposed to the twenty five percent that they allow for
m hm. So that's when you get a movie like

(01:10:26):
The Meg and have the cast is Chinese, right, Well,
it's because now we'll play underfit is well makemony as
a result of it is what makes sense. But the
other any other movie, No, I'm not gonna uh not
gonna really hurt them, I don't think so. You know,
instead of making one point one billion on Frozen, they

(01:10:48):
could have made one point two jeeus, you're gonna feel
that pinch, right, But yeah, I don't think Superman is
I don't know even if they allow it in China,
if it's going to make a huge difference for DC Warner.

Speaker 4 (01:11:03):
Well, no, probably allowed this one. Did you read the
the plot leak I sent you about it?

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Oh? No, I missed that. Actually, Okay was doing show preps. Sorry, yeah,
this was it was right behind it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:18):
But anyway, so the plot leak of this one, and
it's as ridiculous as many of the Silver Age. Yeah, okay,
so this one It's based off of a a rendering
Superman during the Silver Age Superman.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
That was no you got me okay, all right?

Speaker 4 (01:11:44):
So uh it's it's a well known story where there
was a period of time where Superman lost the love
of the public where they were actually against him, and
it was a plot of Lex Luthor's So and as
we know from previous productions, James Gunn will not shy

(01:12:08):
away from taking a shot at the internet trolls because
of everything that happened to him. Yeah back during Guardians
at the Galaxy. So in this one, part of the
plot is that the public opinion of Superman is changed

(01:12:30):
because of online trolls who are raged posting about Superman.
It's actually super shit is the hashtag, and this movement
is actually Lex Luthor has a little pocket dimension of
mutant monkeys who spam this shit out all day long.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
Put a thousand monkeys in a room with thousand typewriters,
are gonna come up with Shakespeare at some point.

Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
Yeah, yeah, they're gonna fart out super shit and get
it trending. So and they all work out of the
phantom zone. And this is where Lex tosses his ex girlfriends.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
So I'm only gonna say this only sounds like a
James Gun false leak, like he's doing this intentionally to screw,
which he's screw what.

Speaker 4 (01:13:30):
She also does. But also James gunn he will take
shot at internet trolls more often than he puts a
fucking kaiju in his movies.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
Yes, that's what I'm saying, is like this, like put
this out there and let them lose their ever loving
mind about it and then it's come tined to be
released and nothing happens with monkeys.

Speaker 4 (01:13:52):
Yeah, but if it's true, fucking God, bless them for that.
I mean, I appreciate a good shot across the bow.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
And the thing is, you know, James Gun cracks me
up because he's a guy that actually has developed juice
in the industry and uses it. For that reason, he
is not afraid to go there. It's my movie. I'll
put it in there.

Speaker 4 (01:14:17):
Hell yeah, and you're not going to stop me because
you know, my movies make a billion fucking dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
Yeah, it's like, uh, you know, somebody can pull them aside,
and its like, h James, you sure you want to
do that? It's like, fuck them, this thing's already made
bank put the screws to them.

Speaker 4 (01:14:35):
So let it million dollars just by putting my name
on it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
Oh, well, where do we go from here? Jeez, monkey trolls?
How do we tap that monkey trolls in the pocket?

Speaker 4 (01:14:50):
Dimension?

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
Love it? Well? Why don't we turn from streaming to
television for a bit, because I've had, you know, following
the media like I do. I've been going through the
ratings quite a bit of late, and I'm seeing some
kind of jarring numbers with an explanation, so it makes

(01:15:13):
sense why this is happening. But you know, primarily I
watch the cable news nets and their numbers. Fox always
steps on everybody's neck. MSNBC gets their crumbs. CNN, who
the hell knows what's going on over there. They're a
lost cause they're to the point now where they're primetime.

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CNN doesn't even hit five hundred thousand some nights the shows.

Speaker 4 (01:15:41):
And two hundred thousand of those viewers are watching for
the fight on aple show. Yeah, for Scott Jennings to
just mock the fuck out of somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
I mean when I you know, I look at the
numbers all the time and say, Okay, this sucks. It sucks.
But then the other day I just looked at CNN
specifically because a couple of different stories came out. Abby
Phillips put out a toast where she's bragging about the
race in the twenty five to fifty four demo. We've
been number one on CNN for the last couple of months,

(01:16:15):
and it's like that is less than faint praise, all right,
that's like saying is.

Speaker 4 (01:16:23):
Like, never mind, I'm not going to go with that
analogy as I will not cross.

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
You know, that's the ship sinking. And she's saying, my
life preservers prettier than years. Yeah. That they get shit
hammered by Fox throughout the night. Like literally, they hit
three and a half to four million a show in
primetime on Fox. She doesn't hit five hundred thousand. And

(01:16:52):
this is the thing from five o'clock on Jake Tapper
is on at five from his show forward, each progressive
program loses audience share from its lead in through primetime.
Wrap your head around, ever.

Speaker 4 (01:17:08):
S because that's the reason why a primetime schedule is
the way it is. Is you lead off with your weakest, yeah,
and you're you know, you progressed to your strongest.

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
Your big show is it's supposed to be at eight
and nine o'clock. That's a big draw time. That's that's
when you peaks at seven y Anderson Cooper loses her
meager audience, and then Caitlin Collins at nine pm loses
his audience, and have you fill up at ten pm

(01:17:43):
loses even further. It's baffling.

Speaker 4 (01:17:49):
That's the exact opposite of how it's supposed to work.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
So that's taking place now. You can sit there and say,
oh yeah, but it's post election and cable news is
dwen as a result. Everything's backing down to normal levels now.
No Fox is on a rocket right now. And this
is where I bring it up. And it's not because
it's yay Fox. It is because some of these metrics

(01:18:14):
baffle the living hell out of me. Fox News Primetime
in the last week or so has gotten better ratings
than ABC and NBC primetime. You heard did you see Wilson?

Speaker 4 (01:18:32):
Did you see the Nielsen's I sent you for cable
that week?

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
I picked them apart a little bit. Yeah, it's uh
headshake that week.

Speaker 4 (01:18:43):
That week, the top ten programs on cable television, not
cable news, cable television, the five on Wednesday Night, The
Five on Monday Night, The Five on Tuesday Night, Jesse
Waters on Primetime on Thursday night, Jesse Waters Primetime on
Monday night, The Five on Tuesday Night, Jesse Waters Tmetime
on Wednesday night, Just You Want Is prime Time on
Tuesday night, The Five on Friday Night, and gut Filled

(01:19:04):
on Tuesday. That's the top ten for that week of
all cable.

Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
Yeah. Fox has gotten bigger since the election. That never happens. Yeah,
The Five some days is approaching five million an hour,
which is gobsmacked. Greg Guttfeld is doing better than the
other late night talk shows on broadcast. Yeah, Colbert Kimmel Fallon,

(01:19:34):
he's beating them and he's on cable. And the thing
that floors me now, Brett Bar at six pm is
like the Fox News Standard News channel, National News with
Brett Behar. He's now creeping up into the broadcast news levels,

(01:19:55):
CBS Evening News, NBC News would Lister Holt, ABC World
with David me or Brett Bear is now at their
level at times, and in many markets beating them. I mean,
this is jarring, and it's there's two things happening here.

Speaker 4 (01:20:13):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
Fox has grown its audience in the last six months
or so. But it's also an indication of how many
people are cord cutting and dropping away. But cord cutting
should affect Fox too. Yeah, people have just given up
on broadcast.

Speaker 4 (01:20:30):
It is years ago. But I couldn't tell you where
to find Fox News on. I mean, I'm sure there's
an app, but yeah, I stopped watching Fox News a
while ago. But still I couldn't tell you where to
find it on. I am probably have it on Hulu.

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
Well, yeah, if you get Hulu Live and stuff like that,
you can get all of them. You know. That's the thing.
The almost all the cable channels have an alternative streaming version,
you know, like CNN streaming is at the live feed
on cable because carriage contracts restrict that from happening.

Speaker 4 (01:21:06):
Is that the one that an FT.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
I'm I'm hesitant to say, I don't think so. But
the whole NFT thing is forever going to crack me up,
never fails to be a punchline. Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:21:25):
I almost I'm almost surprised that you didn't dip your
toe into crypto. Just get that, given how given how
you collect other shot chatski from failed movies and ship
not failed, but just terrible movies.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
Yeah, I just you know that in absolutely ridiculous, horrific
marketing that I love.

Speaker 4 (01:21:46):
Yeah, I was surprised you did not get a wallet
and buy an n FT.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
I wanted to, but I was gonna wait for that
market to collapse, and now that it has, I could
probably get it on the cheap. Problem is, you can't
really go on eBay and get an NFT.

Speaker 4 (01:22:03):
For CNN Plus or whatever that fucking thing was.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
CNN Plus. I'm a lifetime subscriber, even though my lifetime
is longer than the platform itself. Still, but no, it is.
It is very remarkable though, that Fox News is literally
on par with the broadcasters. Just like Guttfeld, I knew

(01:22:31):
was beating him. That's kind of been ongoing for a while.
Brett bears a bit of a surprise. But to see
the primetime lineup getting ahead of the broadcasters is kind
of tough to wrap my head around. I gotta be honest,
that is just damn Yeah. I mean yeah, and we're

(01:22:51):
talking you know, like drama series and stuff like that.
It's not you know, NBC Nightly News and fucked, it's
like waters at eight pm. Hannity, they're competing with the
dramas that are on NBC, ABC, the sitcoms such.

Speaker 4 (01:23:04):
Yeah, well whatever version of Chicago Hope or you know,
SVU or whatever happens to be out there.

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
But that's yeah that I'm gonna be watching this even
more ardently now because of what's happening that there's such
a divergence, like MSNBC and CNN are just like drifting
out the sea and Vox is building a new resort
on the beach. It's amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:23:29):
Yes, like Jeff saying the chat, we don't believe in
primetime APM. We start on Aggie time at eight thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
We give it.

Speaker 4 (01:23:34):
We let everybody go do their half hour of you know,
whatever their primetime is, and then come to us.

Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
That's basically we give the competition a running start. Yeah,
you go ahead, we'll catch up, no problem. Look at
our numbers. Well, uh, we're gonna start getting a little
bit raft here, so let's diversify. Checked.

Speaker 4 (01:23:55):
We don't have anybody behind us tonight. So wherever you
want to go.

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
Well, what are we get into publishing? Because we cover
all media here on the Culture Shift, Yeah, exactly grew Broadway,
but this This is just going to fascinate me, probably
for the better part of the year, that the press
now is literally going through revisionist history with the Joe

(01:24:22):
Biden me mental meltdown, the people that yelled at us
for pointing out Joe Biden's brain melt.

Speaker 4 (01:24:34):
I don't know what you're talking about, Bratt.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
We were just hateful ageist here on the right that
we're making up videos that were widely available across the Internet.

Speaker 4 (01:24:46):
Okay, I got it, and we invented dementia just.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
So we could use I mean, it's It's something I'm
going to be holding in my memory for quite a
while because this is uh yeah, this is a bullshit
what went on. This is one of the bigger media scandals.
And I'm not being hyperbolicer. This is severe what went
on last year for I mean most of the presidency,

(01:25:13):
but literally the first six months of last year, not
only avoiding the story, not only belching out all the
talking points by the White House, they were aggressively attacking people.

Speaker 4 (01:25:26):
Yeah, no, it was it was full gas fighting. It
was it was like being an abusive relationship.

Speaker 1 (01:25:32):
I mean, they came out and accused people of sharing
factual information of lying, putting out falls in those fake
videos and such.

Speaker 4 (01:25:43):
It's like, you know this, you could lose your social
media account for it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:49):
And then Joe Biden melted down on camera and the
entire press corps in a matter of moments said, oh
my gosh, there's a problem. And then it became the
White House lied to us. And just as weekend at
the White House Correspondence dinner, they were celebrating themselves and saying, yeah,
we kind of missed that story, Like bullshit, you led
your asses off, you attacked on behalf of this story.

Speaker 4 (01:26:14):
So and to add insult to injury, two of the
people who carried the most water for the Biden administration Louking,
Jake Tapper, and what's the diet guy from Axios Alex Thompson.

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:26:32):
Alex Thompson.

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
Was at least a little bit willing to give voice
to it. He was kind of like, you know though,
but that was his approach to it. Jack Tapper was like, sorry,
it's a stutter and you Republicans have to shut up.

Speaker 4 (01:26:50):
Yeah, but they have the unmitigated doll to write a
book about how everybody else got it wrong, like they
were the sole paragons of truth. Out there screaming from
the rooftops there's something wrong with Biden and wrote a
fucking book about it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
Yeah, basically, the people that were in denial and on
the attacker now was saying, I can't believe these people
missed this story. Oh my god, we're gonna show you
what they got wrong. Excuse me, dumbass. So right now
it goes with.

Speaker 4 (01:27:27):
COVID too, because you know, it's a few of us
have been ever since COVID saying I bet you every
one of these motherfuckers in the media will pretend that
they didn't shut beaches down, that they didn't close schools
that you know, they'll start saying, oh, it was only
two weeks, you know, because remember the whole thing started
with two weeks to slow the spread.

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
And uh yeah. And this is, I mean, this whole
Biden meltdown thing is going to be the touchdown to
address the press going forward for years more than Russian collusion,
even because you know.

Speaker 4 (01:28:04):
I hope so, but everybody has the memory of a
fucking goldfish. No, I'm talking about it at the end
of the year.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
I mean, we talk we discussed this on the show
with Aggie as such, and you know that the social
shift that has taken place in this country and people
aren't tolerating this bull crap anymore, and the press is
really in the toilet as a result. And I really
do think that it's going to be a case of
people pointing this stuff out and say, you were the

(01:28:31):
one that covered up Biden. Shut out. I'm seeing this
like with Chuck Todd and Crystal isn't now even though
they're out in the wilderness. Every time they bring it up,
you could find five dozen people are like, shut the
hell up, you light about this. You were the one
saying it doesn't happen, And it's marvelous to watch. So yeah,
I think this is going to be crippling. But this

(01:28:52):
is the amazing thing is the people that were denying
it are the ones being rewarded with these book deals
and rewards. That's the part that I'm having a hard
time with. It's like, wait, you lied to our faces,
and now you're gonna explain to us how this took place.
So here's right now. You can go to a bookstore.
Three different releases are on the market right now covering

(01:29:15):
the election and what happened, which I'm sorry, we know
what happened. You're likeing sexist shit. The first one to
come out was Alex Eisenstan. It was called Revenge Inside
the Story of Trump's Return to Power. Now, this one
was mostly about the Trump campaign. You know, it's all

(01:29:37):
I go, I'm gonna show you guys. It's like, yeah,
we voted for the guy, so you're not telling us anything.
So that one kind of died.

Speaker 4 (01:29:43):
See, we were there in the trenches on social media
while you were in your ivory tower huffing your own fire.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
So we believe these people did that. It was like, yeah,
that's why we voted for him, But welcome to the party, Padl.
Then you got Jonathan Allen from the New York Times
and Amy Parnes from The Hill. They wrote Fight Inside,
the Wildest Battle for the White House, and they're starting

(01:30:10):
to get quotes from people inside the Biden administration explaineds like, oh, yeah,
you know, we're really concerned about this or what we
saw during the debait prep was really concerning. I'm sorry
you were the ones that told us he was a
dynamo in preparation and was gonna smoke Trump.

Speaker 4 (01:30:28):
Yeah, that you had hard You had a hard time
keeping up with him. He was so shock you.

Speaker 1 (01:30:33):
Guys had to go out for gatorade because you couldn't
keep up with this guy. And now they're saying he
got tired and slept by the pool, and we're supposed
to be like, wow, that's I had no idea. Bullshit.
We all had ideas. Yeah, we were saying this in
twenty twenty when they were calling a lid on the campaign,

(01:30:56):
just just gonna say it. And then Chris Whipple comes
out with uncharted how Trump beat Biden, Harris and the
odds in the wildest campaign in history. I could give
you a clip notes version how we won. Yeah, you
won't light your ass off about Grandpa going south and

(01:31:17):
everybody saw it there you go, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:31:26):
So the people who are looking at it from the
other side are pining on what they think went wrong
and think how that happened. But those of us, again
who aren't in the media and actually live in the
real world, we know exactly what happened. And that's why
every day on social media, I mean, you know it's

(01:31:46):
it's it's said so often. It's a mean while there's
two of them. You don't hate the press enough. And yes,
this is what we voted for I and they don't
get it because every day is can you believe this? Yes,
this is what we voted every fucking day to the
same people. Yes, this is what we voted for.

Speaker 1 (01:32:06):
How could people support Donald Trump deporting people? You mean
like he promised to do last July. Yeah, which led
to his victory, which is leading to the poll saying
sixty percent of the people approved this today.

Speaker 4 (01:32:20):
Yeah, we can see that he was talking about when
you all took a shot at him.

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
I mean, my question is where's our book deal? Right?
Because everything that's in your book we were saying about
a year ago and got yelled at for it.

Speaker 4 (01:32:34):
You know, It's like when we said, how well, here's
my social media history.

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
Just put it in print, exactly, take my timeline, digitize
it pdf, print, go, run, got it sold, publish what
I distinctly remember telling people that if Joe Biden is
such a fantastic dynamo, if he's so sharp, which was
the word of the year last year, if he's so

(01:32:58):
sharp and energetic behind the scene, means, how is it
he doesn't manage to project that when he's live on
camera ever? Always? I mean, they built a white house
oval office set across the street from the White House,
just so they could coach and coddle him and hit
his marks and everything like a stage play for certain pressers.

(01:33:20):
And how he had to keep getting led off. How
many times have we seen him in interviews were pressors
and he just wanders off like a room book and
you know people are like something, mate, right with grandpa
right there? You know, President's silver alert. We got an
issue going on here? How dare you? That's ageism? You
hateful Republican conservative media sons of bitches. All of that

(01:33:45):
is now in the book. That's just And then a
couple of weeks from now.

Speaker 4 (01:33:50):
Book comes out in your book because I remember, I
just think, remember telling you this.

Speaker 1 (01:33:54):
At one point. Yeah, now awkward, Like the contents of
these books are in all of our timeline. We should
be getting royalties, is my point.

Speaker 4 (01:34:06):
Extras with more presence on the Walking Dead then I
saw in Our President.

Speaker 1 (01:34:13):
The last I think one of my favorites was that
Hollywood fundraiser where Joe Biden freezes on stage like he's
walking off. Here's applause, and he just locked up for
a good twenty thirty seconds, and they came out and said, oh,
those are fake. Here's the real one. And they show
him walking and then it cuts to a shot from

(01:34:34):
the back of the room and you can barely see
the guy, and then it cuts to another angle where
he's walking off with Obama holding his hand. He's like, yeah,
you're getting mad at me for the unedited video. That's
right on him, right and he turns into a mannequin.
I'm gonna go with me right here. Sorry, better source.

Speaker 4 (01:34:53):
Wow, yours looks like a uh, here's what's real.

Speaker 1 (01:35:00):
It happened.

Speaker 4 (01:35:01):
Here's what's really happening. It looked like a fucking I
just drove by.

Speaker 1 (01:35:06):
JFA. And then a flip side of that happened over
at the Associated Press. They had one with he was
at that global event in Europe, and that's when he
was starting to sit down, and then Joel was like,
stop it, Joe, don't and then he literally stopped squatting,
and ap comes out and says, people are claiming there

(01:35:28):
wasn't a chair. We have the full video to show
you there was a chair. Well, okay, I'm looking at
the president squatting for fifteen seconds and not moving. This
is worse. Actually, this is it's not like he didn't
spring up. It's like, oh yeah, sorry, I didn't hear
the music, Thank you, Jiell. No, He's like, okay, just
so like this, I just stay like this.

Speaker 4 (01:35:50):
I'll be okay, Okay, I'm just gonna work a stool
line down here. Is that all right? Let me know?

Speaker 1 (01:35:59):
I mean, I this is why I hate the media
so much and love covering them, because they're so damned easy. Alright,
let's get into the NILS sense to close things out,
shall we?

Speaker 3 (01:36:13):
Ah?

Speaker 1 (01:36:14):
Yeah, ah right, what are we gonna get too? Let's
get into original programming first.

Speaker 4 (01:36:19):
As well as we are one to do. Yeah, it's
not even close. This week Residence number one with eight episodes.

Speaker 1 (01:36:28):
Haven't watched it, but it's always in my face every
time I pull up Netflix. It's like, you have to
watch this program. Stop telling me what to do.

Speaker 4 (01:36:38):
Yeah, you're not my real father.

Speaker 1 (01:36:42):
This is I feel a little bit better about this though.
At number two is Reacher crusted a billion minutes? Watch
that we're good on.

Speaker 4 (01:36:50):
That clost billion and a half, twenty four episodes. I
think this was the week that Reacher came back.

Speaker 1 (01:36:58):
I think we was on the last show, but I
think that was like first episode, So there wasn't enough
and rewatching is what it was. But now we're getting
right back into it.

Speaker 4 (01:37:07):
Now we're an amazing documentary adolescence.

Speaker 1 (01:37:12):
Thank you Great Britain for insisting on watching this. And
they're still over there calling this a documentary. Just it's
like their media is no better than ours. Oh you
have to watch this, it's this is how you'll learn
about what's going on. It's like, no, I'm gonna learn
what the scriptwriter put on your dumbass. It's a fust.

Speaker 4 (01:37:30):
It's called fiction drama. Look it up.

Speaker 1 (01:37:35):
Shakespeare did it. You guys should be familiar with it.

Speaker 4 (01:37:38):
Oh wait, that's right. You're trying to cancel him because
he's an old, fat white dude.

Speaker 1 (01:37:43):
Yeah, he doesn't count anymore. Now this is I'm a
little surprised but not shocked by this one. Nineteen twenty three.
This is in the Yellowstone prequel Realm at number four,
but surprises me though there's only fourteen episodes.

Speaker 4 (01:37:58):
What's surprising. This is under a billion minute to watch.
You can't not hear about fucking Yellowstone.

Speaker 1 (01:38:04):
But this, but in fourteen episodes, I think it's pretty strong.
So there might be some rewatching going on Severance is
still doing it slow burned there for Apple. Hey, congrats,
you're on the board.

Speaker 4 (01:38:16):
I've got to watch Severn so I'm gonna kill somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:38:19):
Oh you haven't watched it, Edward, You totally should. God doctor,
he says from the safety of the East Coast, I
just said your d M.

Speaker 4 (01:38:30):
R rampage that that's where I'm at right now.

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
Oh my god, I can't believe you haven't watched it.
It's like, totally have to. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:38:38):
So see, that would require me acknowledging the existence of
Apple pluses.

Speaker 1 (01:38:43):
But this is kind of great. We got all kinds
of diversity in the top ten. Now Max hits the
board with the pit because there aren't enough medical shows
out there. We need another one. And by the way,
Netflix has one. What's that one called Pulse? That one
just came out too, that'll probably be on the board
next week.

Speaker 4 (01:39:03):
Is that how the streamers have always sold themselves to
how different they are from broadcast television. Then they got
famous for streaming broadcast television shows and made a billion dollars.
Now they're making their own procedurals in the same genres
as broadcast television while having commercials congratulations, guys, you've just

(01:39:24):
become TV. You're just more complicated about it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:29):
We're better than cable because grust us is basically what
it comes down to. So Prime Video now makes the
board as well. With the Wheel of Time.

Speaker 4 (01:39:42):
That surprises me as bad as everybody said. The first
season was, I.

Speaker 1 (01:39:48):
Get to watch in single episodes, so I'm gonna I'm
gonna have to go with it. It sucks caught on Netflix.
Hadn't even heard of that one? You think I would?

Speaker 4 (01:39:59):
And same with it, same of the When Life Gives
You Tangerines? Haven't heard also on Netflix, haven't heard of
that one?

Speaker 1 (01:40:04):
Could be an international hit though it might.

Speaker 4 (01:40:08):
Be, must be it's another documentary, it could be.

Speaker 1 (01:40:12):
And then we a Good American Family at number ten
the Acquired shows.

Speaker 4 (01:40:19):
Yeah, well who that Good American Family for original? I'm surprised, Well, okay,
it's only three episodes, but I'm surprised that's who's only
offering on the big board.

Speaker 1 (01:40:30):
But I think that means we got every streamer except
Disney Plus on that category. Uh huh, pretty cool. That'd
be cool.

Speaker 4 (01:40:37):
That's how it should be.

Speaker 1 (01:40:39):
No, I got a question, White Lotus. Everybody's talking about
everybody says, you have to watch it. Uh huh, it's
on Max.

Speaker 4 (01:40:47):
How was that acquired series? I have no fucking idea
because I thought it was theirs.

Speaker 1 (01:40:53):
Yeah, I thought they made that.

Speaker 4 (01:40:55):
Huh, I I have I have no clue how.

Speaker 1 (01:41:00):
What delineer is.

Speaker 4 (01:41:02):
Fucking acquired original in this game anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:41:06):
It's such a gray area. But thankfully we got Bluie
also Anatomy. Kind of surprised that Netflix has their own
medical drama when they have access to Gray's Anatomy. But
there you go. And CIS that's on the board because
they only have five hundred episodes to choose from.

Speaker 4 (01:41:24):
Well, here's my favorite part of that. Remember how we
used to make fun of the double dipping when they
would be on two streamers. To make the top ten
n CIS, Hulu, Netflix and Paramount.

Speaker 1 (01:41:37):
Plus everybody wants it. It's uh pretty much become the
office that, Yeah, it is how that used to be everywhere,
SpongeBob SquarePants. Of course, we got Family Guy, the Rookie
gets Hulu on the board as well. Big Bang Theory

(01:41:59):
is doing well. Yellow Jackets, Bob's Burgers. That's your top
ten there now, damn it. Movies, Yeah, I'm trying book.
My damn thing is not doing to thank piece of crap.
Go ahead, take us, I gotta catch up.

Speaker 4 (01:42:17):
So movies at the top in the number one spot,
we got Netflix with the Life List. Never heard of it? No, no, No,
number two Moanatu of course. Hey, actually this is Dizzy
Plus's first appearance on the board. Wait we have the
original acquired that took a movie.

Speaker 1 (01:42:35):
They were on acquired because they got bluey were they?
Oh yeah, Bluie is keeping the lights on over there?

Speaker 4 (01:42:46):
Uh, DNA thieves two Pantera on Netflix. Butler makes the
list Love It had a Boy. Wicked is on Peacock
for some reason.

Speaker 1 (01:43:00):
I can't believe Craven the Hunter is getting watched. Dude,
that's you know what, that's got to be global because
it's on Netflix.

Speaker 4 (01:43:08):
And you should you should be more respectful. That's a
U movie.

Speaker 1 (01:43:13):
Okay, Okay, got to look into this then, yeah, give
it a shot.

Speaker 4 (01:43:18):
To spack what me for? Hey, yep, sure it's not
a Dizney. I just could have sworn that was a
Disney product.

Speaker 1 (01:43:29):
That's illumination, but that should be you would think that
would be over at probably Max, right, Yeah, Illumination as warners.
Huh the Electric State. Though, at least that's still bringing
some viewers over after three hundred and twenty million spent
on that movie.

Speaker 4 (01:43:47):
Love that they actually have one million of minutes, one
minute for every million spent has watched.

Speaker 1 (01:44:02):
Dollars Jet. Wow. Yeah, got to love Storm, not Twisters.

Speaker 4 (01:44:10):
So the cheap knockoff is continuing to outperform the sequel.

Speaker 1 (01:44:16):
Yeah, complete unknown and then Twisters itself comes on the
board at ten. For Peacocks, it's just because nobody has Peacock,
I'm guessing. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:44:29):
We talked about it last time when they were both
on the board neck and neck and the Twister caught
in the storm was beating out Twisters, and I said, oh,
that's just fucking name recognition. That's those the whole premise
behind the movie, the distinguished Gentleman. So but for it
to carry on two weeks, three weeks in a row, now,

(01:44:49):
that's just telling me that's a better movie. That's a
superior product over there on Netflix.

Speaker 1 (01:44:55):
Hilarious. Well, overall board, we still got quite the mixture
of the streaming services.

Speaker 4 (01:45:05):
I gotta say, yeah, you know, for the first time
in a long time, because you know, back in the day,
it was always Disney, you know, we were surprised when
somebody else got on the big board. Then it was
always Netflix and Hulu for a while because they had
all the like The Office and all the hot TV shows.
The last couple of weeks, especially this week, it's a

(01:45:27):
really good mix. This is how it's supposed to be.
Everybody's supposed to have something to offer. I know that
sounds a little fucking socialistic of me, but so is monopolies.

Speaker 1 (01:45:38):
But we are, you know, merit based here on the show,
so we're earning it. It's it's good to see. I'll
say that. The only difference I see here on the
overall is the only thing missing is Apple plus Severns
didn't make it. So yeah, you're really gonna have to
start watching that already. No, I'm not picking up that spot.

(01:45:59):
But one overall was the Residence one point eight million,
so one billion eight watched the Residents. That surprises me.
But okay, Reacher and White Lotus the last one across
a billion. They're bluey adolescents. Gray's anat of me. Wow.

(01:46:20):
N Cis nineteen twenty three is on there. The Lifeless
and Mowana two rounds it up overall. So Disney Plus
does come in twice after all, that'll do it right, yea,
so true.

Speaker 4 (01:46:34):
I think the only reason why Milanaitu is on this
list is because it's a sequel and nobody's watching Molana
right now. Because as long as we've been doing the show,
Malanam and Believely have always been on the list.

Speaker 1 (01:46:46):
Seems it seems it. But now they got new materials,
so they're they're eating it up, devouring it, as.

Speaker 4 (01:46:54):
They say, dinging and digesting. Where is it play around?

Speaker 1 (01:47:02):
It's digital? It could go either way probably, ye's the
way it works. Well, we've we've binged here. We built
it out of our product. We did well so already
once you tell everybody where they can find more of you.

Speaker 4 (01:47:14):
Well, when I'm not packing a show full of jam
with you, you can find me surprisingly still on Twitter,
broke ten thousand followers. Finally it is Yeah, can you believe?

Speaker 1 (01:47:24):
I mean, congratulations. I'm not jealous at all.

Speaker 4 (01:47:27):
You're right, I mean I only had to go through
twenty accounts to get the kind of following that will
stick with you for you can find me. Let's see Saturday,
we are going to make an honest attempt to try
and do the juxtaposition we have not been able to
do for several weeks because Rick lives in Tornado Alley
and things happen in my life for some sometimes too.

(01:47:50):
Let's see next week. You can find me on the
Records Sives Manarama panel on Tuesday night Wednesday night, Rick
and Already And.

Speaker 3 (01:47:59):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (01:48:00):
But if you want more of me, you can go
back and find the rebroadcast of Alice where I was
narrator number two. Definitely, people get some more of your magnificence,
your Jena saqlaw as they say.

Speaker 1 (01:48:16):
Yeah, when I figure out what the hell they mean
by that, I'm probably be better off. I am a
available on a daily basis at town Hall dot com,
where I have my media column there it's called Rift
from the Headlines, where I make fun of the press,
also do so on a larger basis and also cultural
items at Redstates dot com front page, where I also

(01:48:37):
have a twice weekly podcast covering the press. It's called
Liable Sources, going a little bit deeper into the muck
and meier of the outmoded media. And you can hear
more of me here at KLRN next Thursday, I'm going
to be here with Paul Young from Screen Ramp. We
go into the dark side and ugly portions of Hollywood

(01:48:57):
with bad movies on disasters and the making, and Tuesday
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(01:49:20):
Lounge every Tuesday. And if you need more of me
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we uh raced through this one. This one went quick again,
Oh I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:49:33):
It must have been generally dry content, had a good turnout.
But this is what everybody comes to us for the
bus news. We're not doing gossip exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:49:43):
Yeah. I have to explain that the people on occasion too.
It's like, how do you not know this stuff? How
do you not know who they're dating? Is it? Because
it don't give a crap about that. We cover the
other side a business of show business. That's our thing.

Speaker 4 (01:49:54):
So it's much more fascinating than Who's fucking who because
it's totally different level.

Speaker 1 (01:50:00):
Yeah, it's like, uh oh really every everyone in Hollywood's
banging each other. There's news. Get back to me on that,
all right, We uh, we're gonna keep our knee on
the pulse of the entertainment industry and in two weeks
we will be back with even more here on the
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