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Speaker 2 (00:55):
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(01:16):
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Orty Packard. What's going on tonight?

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Man? You know, it's it's fucking hot. It's just fucking hot.
There's no other way to say. It's it's we're in
the century marks now and fuck that. But enough about me,
how about you? What's going on with your magnificence?

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Oh, I'm just I'm watching the world melt down on
the other side of the country, kind of in your
front yard, so to speak.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
And yeah, yeah, it's uh, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Kind of just sitting back in reve and that mayhem
from Afar. It's pretty remarkable to watch how much important
focus has been placed on Los Angeles over the last week,
where the bulk of the country pretty much has the
attitude is like, really again, just part it down, just
let it go. I mean, it's not even one of

(02:19):
dramatics and oh my gosh, what's gonna happen is like,
we're sick of this. Just expend them all, push them
over the border to what you got to. We're done
with you people. But they don't seem to grasp that
level of empathy. It's amazing.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, it's I mean, this has to be the lowest
rated riot I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Exactly those numbers to roll in.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yeah, I actually have to go searching for riot content.
You know. It's I mean, I completely disconnected from local
news nowadays. But yeah, it just uh, I imagine if
you threw a riot and nobody showed up.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah. We touched on this a little bit over at
Red State last night when I was on the video cast,
and that is the I think a lot of the
issue with that is there is so much apathy these
days with the media and the media loves these things
because they have built in visuals and such. But at
the same time, there's a dawning coming over the press

(03:23):
that they are on the bad side of things, and
so they're they're kind of looking at this like, oh,
this isn't making our side look good. And I'm literally
watching news outlets saying, oh, this isn't concerning all of
Los Angeles. Now, well, of course not. I mean, how

(03:44):
many square miles is it to with how many millions
of people live there? But it's a.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Million people and yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
So it's almost like saying, you know, there's four hundred
thousand vehicles in Los Angeles, only seventy five were on fire.
Oh I see that. Okay, so the not just fumes
that you could see from Utah. There are nothing to
worry about, got it. But I'm just watching the press
try to say that these riots are over hyped, while

(04:17):
at the same time in the middle of twenty four
to seven cycle of coverage of the riots, and that
just shows you their complex contradiction they're dealing with. It's like,
this is bad, but I just can't help putting fire
on television.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Well, you know, it's like that, Uh, it's like that
dude from Fox eleven in LA the other day. It's
you know, I like, you know, for what it's worth,
ninety nine percent of Los Angeles is not on fire.
And now let's go to the burning waviws.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
And I did appreciate the one local affiliate that said,
there's really no need to bring the authorities in here.
This is just a case of the locals coming out
and enjoying a car fire.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah, did you just los Angelinos are known to do.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
I just you know, it's one of those rare moments
on live television where I'm rewhiting. It's like, did he
just know he couldn't possibly? You see, let me put
on subtitles just to be oh, sure, as well, that's
what he is. And then I've got USA Today saying
something like, you know, it's not a good idea to
burn the evs because the batteries give off some really bad,

(05:32):
noxious fumes that are bad for the environment. Oh so yeah,
be more discerning. Yeah, we need the arsonists to be
thinking green.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
That's really what's important. They really have to force in
the uh, you know, they're really going to hammer home
the green narrative, even though when the strongest adherence to it.
Are setting you know, lithium batteries on fire.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yes, when you know, when burning down a local business,
please be mindful of the greenhouse gas as you're emitting
carbon neutral as much as possible with your arson, please
just asine.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
But what is the carbon footprint of a of a
tire fire? Just curious.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
They don't measure those for some reason. It's it's weird.
I don't know, they don't have statistics on these things.
But yeah, like I said, it's been more of you know,
I'm watching it out of necessity than pure drama because
there's a lot of apathy regarding this. Plus I'm embroiled
in the Stanley Cup as my team, the Florida Panthers,

(06:39):
are on their third attempt at the finals in a row.
Game is going on as we speak. So yes, if
I am a little distracted tonight, or if you hear
random vulgarities from me, that's what's going on there.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
But it's justified. It's too respected.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
But I will say this, as much as I, you know,
love this hockey and this is my team, it's amazing
to see them on this four year run that they're
on right now. Nationally, not so much.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
As much contempt as I have always had for expansion
and relocated teams, I gotta give it to you guys.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Well, it's only taken us three decades to get to
this point.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
I'll say that, Oh, you know, Hartford wasn't built overnight.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
We had I think one other Stanley Cup appearance in
our entire history. Florida Panthers have been known for mediocrity.
We're always in that range of basically from fourteen to
twenty as far as the league rankings go. You're always
on the bubble of the playoffs, which means even if
you miss it or make it, you're still drafting about

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seventeen to twenty five, and those players are usually long
shots to make the league, and you're just always in.
You're never fully rebuilding and getting top flight picks, and
you know, it's just that kind of thing. So to
see us dominating like this is pretty damn amazing.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yeah, it's like I say about my Oakland Raiders, and yes,
I will be cold in the ground before I acknowledge
Las Vegas the best a team in the league.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Well, the thing is this, and it's a you know,
kind of a harsh reality, but one I enjoy at
the same time, and that is right now. The Florida
Panthers are pretty much hated across the NHL. They I mean,
they play a tough version of hockey, but not dirty,
you know, they're not They're not hacking guys from behind
and stuff like that. They're just a tough team. They

(08:39):
play very physical for checking style, and they score while
doing it. It's pretty amazing. So yeah, when you go.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
To them, why are they not?

Speaker 2 (08:49):
So you go to the Stanley Cup three times in
a row, people are gonna start hating you. And then
you've got, on top of that, Canada resenting America to
begin with for not having shared the Cup with them
for over three decades. Then on top of that, they
kind of resent Florida because those people aren't real hockey fans.
They don't know what they're talking about, and it's just steamrolls.

(09:12):
So just basically you got franchise resentment and our style
of play that aggravates everybody, so they pretty much hate us.
And then on the other side of the coin in
the finals is Edmonton, non American team, So really the
only people outside of Florida watching are going to be
those that just they don't want Canada to win, but

(09:33):
that doesn't generate a lot of passion and it didn't
generate a lot of ratings. Kind of a tough sledding
in the first three games so far.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yeah, I mean, you can only really wait the Riots
till one of those nights. But you know, there's no
excuse anymore. It's not like you're watching the game on
you know, the Riots on TV. You're glued to fucking Twitter.
You know, that's where you're in the breaking news. Nobody's watching,
you know, their local CBS affiliate for updates on the Riot.

(10:06):
So yeah, no excuse for not watching the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Guys. Well, there is one, and that is the league
can never nail down a cohesive television format. It is
just across the board, it seems like, from year to
year and even within the year. So it's the throughout
the season, I think ESPN had a couple nights a week,

(10:29):
and then you're sharing other nights with TNT, and then
during the playoffs, ESPN got the East Coast games, West
Coast were on TNT and you had to bounce around
and then okay, now the final it's this is all
on TNT finally, But by this point, you've lost half
your audience. You know, last year, at least it was
on ABC, on a major network, and they had about

(10:50):
four four point three mil I want to say average.
But you're on cable now, T and T. People can't
find the games, and you're down to about a drop
this year.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
So it's a don't people go to sports bars like
you know, God intended. I don't think I've ever I mean,
aside from the San Diego Goals watching them live, I
don't think I've ever seen a hockey game that wasn't
on a bar TV covered in stale beer and regret.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
You have to have those definitely emotions during hockey. Look
at you game live. That's impressive.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
I like that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
I love their love, their crest on the sweater. A
very cool team somewhere buried in storage. I know. I
got a San Diego Goals hockey puck. I'm pretty positive still,
so that's kind of cool.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
It was when they had to chick Gully and she
was a smoke show, so I couldn't.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Not got it. Yeah, well you're in San Diego. You
got to appeal to that female volleyball crowd in the
off season.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Yeah, but yeah, the NHL, he remembers her.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
It wasn't men own realm, was it?

Speaker 3 (12:06):
That was thirty?

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Was it her? Because I know they tried to. They
gave her a try out with the Tampa Bay Lightning
when they were just coming into play, and uh, that
was more of a novelty. It's like, hey, look at that,
we let a girl play.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
So problem is every guy took a shot at her
five hole and she learned how to block it.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Ooh phrasing, gaggdy gotta gotta love those singles and tendres
and hockey. I was checking out her top shelf.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
I'm just saying, you know what they're They're a few,
but they're good.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Got to come in from the slot. Yeah, and there
it goes the whole show.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
I love to cross check her into the boards.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Oh hell, yes, there they go. Yeah, boys just tallied,
so we're up ahead. But yeah, other than that, the
the readings have been rather dismal here for the NHL.
And this is going to impact next year when the
the new uh basically they're the new package is supposed
to hit and that's gonna raise everybody, every team's spending limit.

(13:13):
But little bit of good news. Maybe guess who's in
the house there in Florida, Travis Kelsey and Taylor.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yeah, that'll you want four new viewers. Oh, actually, you
know what all the Swifties. Oh my god, she's at
the game. Let's go watch because you know they're gonna
put her on the screen, but that in hockey probably not.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Now they've already been on screen three times.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Oh well, fuck me then.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Although it's kind of cool they uh, they just showed
Keith Katschuk in the stands because his son scored and
the guy turned around to shake his hand and he's
wearing a hockey jersey that said forty seven Trump.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
No.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
I mean, we're a red state, but this is a
Navy blue county that we play, and so I'm kind
of surprised to see that cool stuff. But yeah, the
NHL is kind of dogging it right now. As far
as ratings go. The games have been fantastic, but the
ratings not so much.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
But it always seems like when it's the best games
and when nobody's watching.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yeah, and then when people do tune in, it's gonna
be seven to one and a fight breaks out.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Of course, I think so the real fans nobody's watching.
Let's have a good game, Let's have a good match.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
But speaking of dismal performance on the sports pitches, I
know everybody is on the edge of their seat and saying, Hey, Brad,
Hey Ordy, what's going on in the w NBA.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Aren't they? Though, I mean, that's the content people crave.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
I mean, I'm just I have my reasons to bring
it up. They're very tenue is.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
But you know it's still is. It still is entertainment,
business news, and it is relevant and it just shows
the state of the w NBA.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Well, I think one of the reasons this league is
suffering such as it is. And I think they're in
their thirty second year something like that, something amazing, And
just for the record, thirty two consecutive seasons in which
they've lost a shit ton of money, this league has
never turned a price.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
I think one of the first games played, I was
old enough to be in a bar, so that kind
of tracks.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, it's kind of a running joke at our bar.
Like if we're watching the game and if the Panthers
are going for a blowout or something to be third
period and they're down sixty two, it's like screw disc
put on a damn WNBA game. I'm sick of this craft.
And then we all cheer each other and clink bottles
and such and then have our laugh put.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
On something watchable. This is depressing.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
But their season, yeah, they just began about I think
last month story broke where there was a deep investigation.
The league was looking into this Angel Reese, who is
second year player, who is basically the personification of the
word diva. Everything's about her, complains about everything even though

(16:11):
everything goes her way. She's got a McDonald's promotion, she's
got her own shoe, you know, crap like that, and
she's still oppressed. And the racism in the league and
all that nonsense.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Yeah, oh yes, racism in the WNBA.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Well, they played a game in Indianapolis and she came
out afterwards and said that she endured some kind of
rachel slur in the course of the game from the fans.
Never specified the problem, she didn't say what they called her,
where it came from, who did it, anything of the sort,
just that she heard it. Big league investigation into this.

(16:47):
Weeks were spent looking into the matter, despite the fact
there wasn't a single witness nobody working in the stands
heard or saw this take place, and at the conclusion
of it all in the leagues that we were unable
to ascertain where this originated or how it happened.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Meanwhile, one hundred high gain mikes spread around the court
pick up the team rat from the stands, that eats
all the detries that gets dropped from the five fans.
Hear that scurrying around under the bleachers, But you can't

(17:29):
hear somebody shout a racial epithet at somebody out on
the well.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Even you know, with dismal attendance figures, you're still going
to have a conglomeration of people close to the court
where this would have had to transpire. For her to
hear a racial slur would have been somebody up closed
and that's where everybody's at. There had to have been witnesses,
is my point. None. However, we all might recall the

(17:55):
name Britney Griner, the wayward and be w NBA star
who was arrested in Russia for bringing drugs into Russia.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Clever, Yeah, yeah, don't take your weed into a fascist state.
I mean, you're just looking for trouble. Check with the
State Department to find out what the local regulations are
regarding narcotic substances before getting your fat ass on the
fucking plane.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Even if you want to pull the medicinal card, you
better be able to translate that into Russia. If you're
gonna go shoot hoops and moscows.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Well that and does Russia even have that? I mean,
that's you know, we've got that excuse here. It reminds
me of the days that you know, back in you know,
when El Salvador was much more corrupt, where they would
talk about how they don't have a DUI program because
everybody who was arrested for driving drunk was shot on
the side of the road.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Wow, well it takes care of that problem. Yeah. I mean,
if you're gonna travel and play abroad, maybe make it
mandatory that you watch the movie Midnight Express. That might
clear a few things up. I'm just gonna throw it
out there. But the whole reason I bring up Britney
Grinder is because as this investigation is taking place, episode

(19:17):
took place during one of the games. I don't know
if she fouled out or was just going to the bench,
but she's caught on cameras saying that effing white bitch, right.
I'm sorry that sounds kind of direct. And not only that,
we got media evidence of it, so it happened, people
saw it, people heard it, and we have it. League

(19:39):
did nothing about.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
This, not one thing, not an investigation, not a slap
on the wrist, not a hey, honey, fucky that.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Yeah, well, you're gonna bring you in for question.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
No.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
So this this shows you that, you know, the league
is basically just kowtowing to their princesses, with one exception,
and that would be Caitlin and Clark, the biggest player
in the league. She got drafted last year and pissed
off pretty much everybody apart from her teammates. Every team
hates management hater. Executives in the league seem to resent her,

(20:17):
and all she's doing is bringing in business. The Indianapolis
team that she plays for don't even know their nickname.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Couldn't tell you, Yeah, I couldn't tell you.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
They're drawing like professional teams, like seventeen eighteen thousand a game, and.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah, it's the few sellouts that occur in the WNBA
are directly correlated when she's playing.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, and when she is on television. They do gangbuster business.
Everybody wants to see and check her out. Meanwhile, Angel
Reaves in Chicago her rival, if you want to call
it that, which I don't, because she's not. They have
a thing now when Chicago comes into a stadium, they
each get off the bus individually in some fashion and

(21:04):
do a dance routine of sorts on the way to
the locker room. And the team sucks, they lose. They
did this going to Indianapolis beforehand, and they're sitting there
posturing and peacockying and look at me, I'm a diva.
I'm fabulous. Angel Rees put up all of four points
before they got blown out by thirty to Indianapolis.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Most of those.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Here's the key. Caitlyn Clark didn't even play in the
game and they got smoked like that.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Yeah, she's out on.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
And this is the entire reason we're bringing all of
this up. Caitlyn Clark's got a I believe a quad injury.
She strained one of her legs and she's unable to play.
Hasn't been in for a couple of weeks now, and
the league ratings have gone down over fifty percent as
a result of her not playing.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
Yeah, she's only four games this year, so if.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
She's not on the court, the game is not on television.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
For the most part, this is just setting to me.
They again, you know, they average almost two million viewers
when she's playing, they're averaging eight seven when she's not.
That's a million viewer drop specifically.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Yeah, that's I mean, it is clearly a checkout and
oh she's not playing, Let's see what's on the Food
Network pretty much it I like this diner.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Diner's driving down the fifth time. It's so soothing. Boy,
that Burger's something, ain't it?

Speaker 2 (22:44):
And it just I this is the only reason I
really watch anything involving the WNBA. It's just on the
business side of things, and it's how they operate and
don't do. It's it's just uh headshaking. You know, she's
her cash cow. She's the only reason to watch the league,

(23:07):
and they hate her.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
I just dug deep into the article on this one.
When Fever played the Sky that's the Chicago one with
Angel Reese. You were talking about with Clark missing ticket
prices for the game and fell as low as three dollars.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Oh jeez, man, that's three dollars. I mean that you
can't buy anything at the concession stand that cheap.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
I was trying to think, what could you buy? I
mean not just I mean that's like you can't even
get You can't even get like a paps on draft
for three bucks.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, you might get lucky if it's like one night. Yeah,
but damn that is that's brutal right there, I'm sorry,
you know.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Meanwhile, watch the you want to go watch the you know,
the the w n B A game. It's three bucks?
Is it worth it? Though?

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Are you driving?

Speaker 3 (24:19):
I'll go.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
If you buy a ticket, I'm gonna need more.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yeah, I'll tell you what. I'll buy the tickets, you
buy the beer. That seems fair.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Oh that's how you get them, right, Hey, come on, Puss,
for the tickets. At least you can spend twenty five
dollars on SuDS, all right, at least I can say this.
They're not watching hockey live, I mean on television. But
to go to a game live the playoffs, I think
face value here was five hundred bucks. I mean it's

(24:52):
a seat, people want it, and they're selling out like
mad here. So it's good stuff.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
That's uh supply and demand economics right there.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Well to move on to another topic of mind that
I'm favorable with a lot of the stuff seems to
be going on over at CNN. Speaking of bad ratings, Yeah,
my god.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
In this segue, good call on that.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
I mean, they are they're just sinking. They're just out
of control bad over there. Every time I look, it
gets worse. Like Jake Tapper's got his new book out
that everybody's talking about and he's on every interview show
known to mand. I'm sick of looking at this guy's
mugga all the time. Since his book has come out,

(25:42):
his ratings have plummeted, Like people are pissed off about
this book.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Fans are like, how fuck that guy?

Speaker 2 (25:53):
So since this book has come out, his he's I think,
gone down like twenty five percent in a month, and
his hit ratings low that he hasn't seen in over
a decade. I mean, well, you can almost hear the stampede.
And this is from already dismal numbers, So to drop
off that much from where they're at, yikes. But I

(26:14):
will say this, CNN managed to do one thing right
Saturday night. They took a break from their round the
clock Riot coverage to have a special event. This is
what it was already an event if you weren't aware
of it.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah, I I it is an event in the most
specific definition of the term possible.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
I think they've said that it's the first time ever
that a live Broadway performance was broadcast live on television.
And this was for the George Clooney directed stage production
good Night and Good Luck.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
He's the actor producer.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yes, he's wearing multiple hats in this one. And you know,
this is a little bit of insufferable leftist dose of
agit prop. He had a movie of this same title,
same subject matter. It's all about Edward R. Murrow and
how he dealt with the big Red Scare and the

(27:21):
calmy hearings that were taking place in Washington back in
the nineteen fifties. And now how he bravely fought back.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
Did he go?

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Oh, that's what they tell us. So when the movie
came out, they were framing it at the time against
the George Bush administration and the war effort, and so, oh, bro,
we're gonna go after him. And now with the rise
of Donald Trump, George Clooney felt it was a swell
idea to do this and pose it against of course
the oppressive Trump administration.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Yes, those so yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
This basically gave anybody and everybody at CNN, at Chubby
and they said, we can't. We got to do this,
We have to do this. It's imperative. They put the
production on Saturday. They had a bunch of you know,
pre show hype of course, a good hour or two
to tell us what it all means before we get

(28:19):
to watch it for ourselves and decide, and Cooper.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
And Pamela Brown for really just laying it out for
us like that.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, there was you know, Brian Stelter telling us that
the you know, the communist hearings, we're going through something
even worse today, is that right? Brian? Can you point
out specifically what you're talking about? Uh? Trump?

Speaker 3 (28:45):
Trump?

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Pretty much? But in what way are we just Trump?

Speaker 3 (28:50):
What?

Speaker 2 (28:51):
What current events? What has taken place in DC right now?
That equates Trump? I hate him Trump? I mean it's
pretty much. Yet.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Yeah, he's slashing NPR and PBS. That that's what.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Yeah, and he's of course, this is how brilliant Stelter is.
You know, he's going after Kermit the Frog and Big Bird. Yeah, Brian,
they haven't owned that in a decade.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Serious, the parent company of your network actually owned them
more recently than PBS did.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yeah, I mean they have not had it at PBS
for so long that the contract has expired now and
it's moving to Netflix. That's where Sesame Street is going, Brian,
So thank you for your accuracy and dedication to the facts.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Yeah, but like two years and then it went to
somewhere Netflix, I think, I don't know, but it's going.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
The Warner contract just got up, and now Netflix bought
them out, so they're gonna I think they're gonna be
on So they were sharing it so it was on
HBO Max then Max.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
You know that means, don't you, Brad, We're gonna be
reporting Sesame Street being in the top ten Nielsen ratings
for the rest of the year.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
I'm just saying, well, yeah, when they go, if they
get the entire catalog and drop all of that on Netflix.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Absolutely all seven thousand episodes.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yes, exactly, well, not all of them. They're gonna weed
out all those ones that have problematic racial issues from
the past. They had to do that on Disney. I
didn't had to, but they chose to Disney Plus brought
Schoolhouse Rock on and they actually had trigger warnings before

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those cartoons.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
Yeah, I can see how I'm just a bill sitting
on Capitol Hill. Could really you know, it was like
dark emotions.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
I think they said something to the effect of, you know,
like before warn Some of the portrayals in this are
from the nineteen seventies, when cultural attitudes were different than today.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
Kind of crap.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
It's like, really, we weren't socialists. How about this. If
you don't tell kids to be sensitive to this crap,
they won't be.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
I mean, you know, please, please, please continue to bring
the children into a never ending cycle of fear, porn and.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
And I mean not to get on a lecture rent
or anything like that, but I've got first ant experience
staying with us this summer of the seven year old.
All day she was on a video chat with her
good friend up in Massachusetts, who's a black girl. They're
good friends, they have been for a while. Nobody makes
a big deal about it. It's not an issue. Guess
what happens They love each other as a result. How

(31:54):
about that? Weird?

Speaker 3 (31:55):
That's weird, right, This is what we happen about. I mean,
blah blah blah. Contents of character blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
And then the very people that are telling us not
to be racist, or the same ones telling us you
can't be color blind. You do see color because it's
inherent in your blood and all that. I don't know,
is it racist if I tell you to screw off.
I'm just because I'm going to I just want to
check first. But this is that is what's going on.

(32:27):
And CNN, in this environment put this on. They had
monster ratings on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yeah, seven million, that's uh, that's the most have ever
had and.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Seven and change. And I could guarantee you there were
executives walking around the c suites at CNN going what
do we do? Like, what do we holy crap, like,
do we do something? Do we celebrate seven?

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Oh god, it's happening. It's happening. Racely come, it's like
that seen We've got one.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Like this is a you know, a number that Fox
News will hit every single time Donald Trump gave an
outdoor rally. But it's CNN. It's like this is like
a unicorn walked in the room. What do we do?
Righte it? Do we shoot it? Neat? What do we?
I don't even know? So they this was a good idea,

(33:22):
but also it is entirely a one off, so there
was really no lesson for them to learn. Nothing that
we just have to do this again.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
People know where we're out of the dial.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah, yeah, cool, I guess.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Yeah, the most successful program has been in the last decade,
not news related.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
I'm not sure that there's a ton of political Broadway
productions coming down the pike in the future for you,
but good luck. So yeah, they're I'm kind of looking
at this now. Yeah they can't. They can't go with Hamilton.
That's a Disney plus.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
No, that's what I mean. Con help us. We carry
your water so much?

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Please can you share? Can you help it? Well? Anything? So, yeah,
they hit this number. But this is how bad things
have been. We've talked about recently, in the last six
months or so, how Comcast Universal has decided, you know what,

(34:32):
we don't want to do TV anymore. Yeah, gobbled up
all of their gable channels, with the exception I think
of two. Yeah, one had reality and one head sports.
So they weren't given those up.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
Yeah you know it was, but yeah, it was really weird,
you know what they picked. But I'm like, okay, well
that tracks if you're looking at it from a likely
to still be around in five years lens.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, basically they held onto two channels that they're pretty
well convinced will still be viable. Everything else was like
good luck, see.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Y adios MSNBC.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
And yeah, they they for the longest time were just
calling this spin Co. Hey, it's clever, it's him. It's witty,
isn't it. But then they came up with a new
name for their cable division, Versuant. Yeah, well that just
rolls off the tongue and immediately lodges in your brain

(35:34):
pan with recognition of what the hell are you doing?

Speaker 3 (35:38):
You know. It's like it's like IMDb changing to freeb
never gonna call it anything other than spin Co.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
So did you watch it versus channel last night? Your
son of a bitch? I resent that accusation, you know,
But this is where it gets good. I just saw
this nugget a week or so ago. MSNBC is part
of this cable conglomerate that they're kicking to the curb.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, spinning off to be an independent

(36:07):
venture of its own, and by August now it was
announced that any and all MSNBC staff has to vacate
thirty Rock, where NBC News is located. You don't have
to go home, but you can't stay here. That's so yes,

(36:30):
And there's a bit of an abruptness to this. So
they had to scramble the fine space for their productions
and all that, and they temporarily are moving into a
building that was formerly used by BuzzFeed. So like, I
guess they have enough outlets or something that they need

(36:51):
for their production there.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
So not good enough for BuzzFeed, but good enough for MSNBC.
You know what they should They should really just for
Keith Overman a job back if they can let him,
let them set up in his basement where he's doing
his little podcast from job that trash.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
I as much as I resent him, I really do
want him to come back, just for the content. That's
like right now, I can't justify covering him. It's just
you know, like because I always say, you know, the
reporter's name in the network there with it's like Keith Oberman,
mom's house doesn't quite work that way, so I don't really.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Cover the independent commentator.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
But yeah, they're they're gonna have to pull up by
the end of summer. MSNBC has to clear out, and
you know, this has just been kind of a clear
indication that it's like, we got to get rid of
this dead wood so we can build up streaming and
move forward. Well, the announcement has come. Discovery is doing

(38:02):
something very similar, if not identical.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
They are.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
The curious aspect for me is that this is the
company that just completed the merger, and the second half
of that, Discovery is a cable channel, right, they're getting
rid of the cable channels entirely.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
So well, no, not entirely because okay, so yeah, okay, yeah, okay,
so the way that is breaking down, Yeah, you got
HBO Max streaming service, Warner Brothers Studio and the other Okay,
got it. Yeah, Yeah, they're gun.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
They're they're going to be independent. And you get the
impression that the corporate speak was this that you know
that they're gonna be spun off, you know, separate but
still affiliated. However, anytime, you know, if they want to
field other off. It was kind of like, yeah, if
anybody wants to cut your check, take it, just do it.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
You know, we should see other people.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
And I think the biggest indicator of all as much
as they're trying to put cherry on this turd pudding.
Oh and they're also going to offset their thirty four
billion dollars in debt into this new venture as well.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
So, yeah, you guys have a hard.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Time swimming, you're gonna have to take this anchor as well.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
Well. And it's not like this is just like two
divisions of the same parent company. These are being spun
off as two different invested companies, two different Yeah, so
you've got CNN and other television networks versus HBO Max
streaming services and Warner Brothers Studios. One of them is

(39:58):
streaming in studios, the other is called Global Networks, and
they're going to be separate company.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
But this is where I'm they weren't real clear about
this now. As I said, Discovery that was where they started,
was the Discovery channel that's gone now. But the Discovery
streaming service is what they're focusing on. But are they
still gonna pull content from the Discovery channel.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
I think the content will probably be on the streaming
service that gets rebroadcast on me.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
That's what I'm saying. It looks to me like that's
going to be the feature.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
So we'll all the gems in the crowd over here,
and you guys are the dandruff. You'll be over there.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
So we're gonna have the five course dinner and then
we're gonna give you the tenfoil swan with the leftovers. Okay,
that makes a little sense. Here's my question. They've been
trying to by then having live newscasts on the streaming

(41:03):
service HBO Max, Right, is that still going to be something?
That's what I'm going to be looking at, because.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
I'm absolutely on ever since starting now was a experiment
that failed And Jeff, you were trying to pop in
there or was that giving feed No?

Speaker 4 (41:23):
I think it was feedback.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Okay, heard a little echo. Yeah, but yeah, that's the
thing is they were trying desperately. They were almost force
feeding the news broadcast on their regular streaming services. So
when you start a programm, it was like, hey, by
the way, before we start your movie. CNN says, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
It's because they don't have airports anymore. They don't have
the captive audience, so they had to find another captive audience. Oh,
you want to watch Game of Thrones, You've got to
listen to Brian Setzer for a minute.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
This is this is where I'm going to be yea,
and c has already tried a subscription model a few
months ago. I don't know how that's gonna work out
because nobody goes to it in the first place. Why
are you gonna pay for it?

Speaker 3 (42:13):
I like this when Zaslov said too. He told staffers
in a memo, each corporation has a distinct focus, a
clear mission, and the scale to succeed on its own terms.
Here's the anchor around your neck. Good luck.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Yeah. Over at CNN, they hate Zaslov. They do. Just
all the coverage of him and such has always been
that had that veiled criticism attach to. It's like, you know,
Zaslov who considers himself a mogul that kind of crap. Well,
Zaslov is not involved anymore. Yeah, you're right, I'm gonna

(42:52):
ass you got. We don't like each other.

Speaker 6 (42:55):
Go, I don't fancy myself the owner of a brothel,
So we're gonna give you your own company, you know, good night.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
And good luck.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Yeah. And they even rolled in, uh, you know, years
ago when Chris Lickt was brought in by the Warner
Discovery people to run things. They also had like a
ten percent steak with another media mogul who you know,
guy who owns a ton of channels across the nation,
knows publishing, knows journalism, and he was the biggest critic.

(43:29):
He was like, we got to clean this crap up.
This ain't flying anymore. And that's when Oliver.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Darcy for a little bit and he just kind of said,
this is unfuckable.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
So now they spend his entire thing off. He's not
even involved anymore. I will think I think he checked out.
He's like, you guys are hopeless. I wanted to do journalism.
I don't know what you're doing.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
Yeah, whatever, whatever this is, it's not journalism. I'm out.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
So this is cracking me, Yeah, because it really feels
like to me, CNN, whatever lifeline umbilical cord they had
with corporate is kind of knotted up and cut cauterized.
Good luck guys.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
Yeah, I just really look forward to I mean, how
many other people are gonna just want to tie this
albatross around their neck. At what point do you just
does it just become Newsweek? You can buy it for
a buck.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
I'll tell you what was probably going to happen at
some point. I don't know when but fourign money, somebody
from somewhere was gonna say, wait, CNN is for sale,
we'll buy that.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
But also it'll be like when Chicken Soup of the
Soul bought Red Box.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Yeah, and look how well that turned out. All right,
Jeffrey Zucker is still out there. He after he got
kicked out of CNN, he somehow warmed his way into
some kind of venture capital entity. And he was actually

(45:16):
talking about a year or two ago about buying his
way back in. This could be his chance to get
back in for a dollar, Please do that.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
Yeah, it's great.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Sucker under his tutelage is when he drove the network
down to like out of the top ten.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
Well not just that, but when they lost the most
defamation suits concurrent. I think because all the court cases
we're seeing the resolution now, wasn't that all under Zuckers
pretty much?

Speaker 2 (45:53):
I mean, you know, he he was all about Chris Cuomo,
he was all about Darcy and Stelter. When when Chris
Lick came in, he was trying to weed the place
out of all of Zucker's people. And you know, goodbye
Soliza and then this one's gone, that one's gone. But

(46:14):
a couple have come crawling back, and they just they
have absolutely no idea how to be successful. Except one
gleaming idea has just come across the trans amorty podcasts.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
Yeah, this is I mean, okay, to be fair, CNN
has had podcasts, but in true CNN fashion, they didn't
call them podcasts. The network was CNN Audio.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
And here's the thing. When they they say this in
the article, We're gonna transition from CNN Audio and call
it CNN podcast I was not even aware of CNN
Audio is a thing. I know it existed, but like
I can pretty much tell you whether anybody on the
air probably has a podcast. Sure, I've never heard them,

(47:09):
seen them. I haven't seen it. Like on when I
go to CNN for stories as such, I don't see
a link. I don't see a banner, you know, like,
hey see it an audio click here?

Speaker 3 (47:18):
No groundbreaking interviews, you know, it's like, oh my god,
you got to go watch this interview with so and
so over on CNN Audio on what Oh it's the podcast?

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Oh okay, exactly that. It's like I recall I think
it was Como and Lemon. They either had a show
together or they co mingled like you know, he'd do
half an hour and then said wait into Lemon like
they do on TV something like that. I heard people
talk about that. It's like, oh, on their podcast. They said,

(47:48):
it's like, oh, they have a podcast. How do I
get to it? I just know they have one? Yeah?
But is it on the Google?

Speaker 3 (47:59):
Yah? It that's let me go go that for you.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
They say, Now this is going to uh, this is
gonna be the new thing for CNN.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
Great good because we, I mean you and I personally
have been doing podcasts together for six years and CNN
is just now figuring this game out. Not to say
again that they didn't have podcasts, but they didn't call
them podcasts. Ergo Latin. When you're looking on Spotify for podcasts,

(48:30):
probably wouldn't have come up.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
No. But the thing is, when you know, like and
I'm doing research for my columns and such, I go
to New York Times Washington Post, inevitably I'm going to
see some point in time on screen something indicating podcasts.
You know, like if it's a particular if I'm clicking
on an article by a particular columnist and he's got
his own podcast with a clever title on the right side.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Or something and oh, bble sources or something.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
Yeah, or sometimes a news item will be from a podcast.
I do that at NPR a lot of times, whatever,
because they're radio based to begin with. But you know,
sometimes of news breaks from NPR, it was on this
particular show or you can listen to it. Never with CNN,
I don't know a single time I've referenced CNN Audio
for news.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
I you know what, I don't even think we've talked
about it on here, and we are not shy from
mentioning CNN's various and sundry terrible fucking ideas.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
Name naming their podcast network. CNN Audio is absolutely something
we would have riffed on.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
We have talked about CNN n f T s yes times,
and never CNN Audio.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
That was that was the crowd of their bad ideas.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Well, I'm still gonna lead on CNN Plus. But yeah,
the NFTs are right there.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
I mean, you know, trying to CNN plus get a
CNN n FT that's how valuable they were. Okay from
PBS if you contribute five dollars or more.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
Yeah, the the CNN n f T was like a
PBS tote bag Basically.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
The difference is the PBS tote bag actually has inherent value.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
It's something tangible and you probably know where it is
a commodity.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
The people love NFTs, will I am, But of all.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
The selling the n f T to their first broadcast
ever or something first Hour for five minutes or something,
the first news item you could get that n f T,
I want to find out who has that and then
ask them if they know where it is.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
I just absolutely want to interview a person who has
one of those.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
So where is your n f T?

Speaker 3 (50:52):
Ask so many questions.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
First, there's a.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
Digital wall, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Do you know where you're wallet is? Probably google it?

Speaker 3 (51:04):
Yeah, I threw in my safety deposit box. It's in
there somewhere.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Uh No, it's an n f T. Are you familiar
how NFT's work. No, I just bought one. But it's
a closet. Nope, nope, damn Well, amid all of.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
The probably in a junk email that was deleted. Here's
the link to your NFT. Fucking spam.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
It's in a spam folder something like when you put
it in storage. Yeah, oh, I had it in a
desk drawer. Is I think that's in the self storage
in Tulsa. Maybe.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
Yeah, I haven't seen like that's for years. I like
that desk. I should go get it last year ever
think of it.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
But when the riots were blowing up this weekend, something
else occurred. Senior political correspondent at ABC News Terry Moran,
who recently interviewed Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
And that was fantastic.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
It was that tells you everything about our political climate
right there, because when they aired the interview, I'm scrolling
around anybody right of center, Donald Trump trampled him and
embarrassed that reporter. Anybody left the center. He owned Donald Trump.
He humiliated the president. So basically it means there's no

(52:29):
reason to watch this because there's probably garbage coming out
of both of them. Yeah, but that was the last
significant thing to come from Terry Moran. I say that
because over the weekend he I'm just gonna come out
and say it. I think he was drunk tweeting.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
Had to be No, that was absolutely drunk tweeting.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
This was a reporter.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
Your friends don't add you to group texts anymore.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
I think he was on his fifth mango. Kiwi White
Claw probably text somebody like, can you believe Trump did this?
And Steven Miller said that, and Terry is like, that's it.
I'm gonna go smoke and watch what I put up there. Yeah,
unspools this out of a four or five paragraph tweet

(53:18):
about how Stephen Miller subsists on hate. Look into this
man's eyes and you could see it. Hat is his
driving force. He eats it for dinner. Hate is what
motivate and just on and on with this stuff.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
It It was like a seth Abrams tweet thread but
fall in one. He absolutely got his money's worth out
of that blue.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Check that day. I mean, you know, points on him
for distilling it. You know, this is like you know
when you make that five gallon beef broth and spend
three four days rendering it down to just its barrass essence.
And yeah, he did that in his tweet and it
was funny because he puts it out there, and I

(54:07):
think it probably lingered for a few hours before he
or the lawyers got to him and suggested that he
come to the idea of Hey, Terry, you want to
take that down?

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Yes, taken down faster than uh Anthony Wieners tweets.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
The thing is, these days, savvy Internet users and That
pretty much means anybody that's been on for six months
has been of the opinion that, oh hell, I'm going
to screenshot that.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
Yeah, this one's gonna die. I better preserve it for posterity.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
When he took the tweet down, it exploded everywhere. Everybody
Sunday morning, everybody put up the tweet that he deleted.
Here's what Terry took down, And.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
Hey, Terry, what happened to this? Why did you delete this?

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Just like his interview with Trump, people on the right,
can you believe this unhinged batshit individual? People on the left,
hero told the truth, nothing but facts. Yeah, except there
were zero facts in his tweet. No, this was all
drunken speculation. I look at this guy's eyes and you hate.

(55:23):
This guy just hates everybody, eats hate. Hey, he puts hate,
frinkles it out his pizza.

Speaker 5 (55:29):
He's a hater.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
If you didn't understand the hate.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
He dribbles hat out of his pep.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
So that happened. By the afternoon of Sunday, ABC basically
had to come out and say, Okay, okay, Terry, you're suspended. Dude,
gotta suspend you at this point because this is the
network by the way, that knuckled under and paid Donald
Trump a settlement for their deformation suit.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
And recently, yeah, I'm sure there was a memo that
went out to ABC staff.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Yeah, this was what a month and a half ago
when Stephanopolis basically provoked this. Yeah, they went to court.
Trump sued them because they were calling him a rapist.
And he's like, no, that was the judge that said
that there was no proof. There was no evidence was
at ruled nothing. So they're doing disclosures and basically saw

(56:28):
the communication where a producer told Stephanopolis like eight times,
do not call him a rapist. Don't say it was rape.
Don't say the word rape, the word rape. Tape it
in red letters and put it in front of you
on your desk so you do not say it. And
what does Stephanopolis do? Uh, so they're calling you a rapist? There,

(56:50):
don what about that rape? You want to tell us
when you rape the woman?

Speaker 3 (56:55):
And when that exactly, everybody, every executive ABC was like,
we should have gotten a hypnotist of make him forget
that word exists.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Basically, I can probably tell you the court worked this way. Uh,
your honor, I've got this document here where they say
explicitly to George stephanopolism, and before the sentence is over,
the check book was opened in their writing how many
how many zeros? Yes? Seven? Okay, we'll do seven. Yeah,

(57:27):
just damn. So, yeah, Terry Moran got spend on these things, right,
and you do exponents on the check Is that legal?

Speaker 3 (57:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (57:39):
But a couple of days go by and then ABC
comes out with the announcement that Terry Moran will no
longer be affiliated with the network.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
So they didn't say he was fired. They said that
they are just renewing his contract, and then it came
out I think by Monday after noon that that was
effective immediately.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
What they come up with it was something like editorial
differences or something of the sort that they we hold our.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
News division to a higher standard than most rape.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Yeah, and that's where spit takes could be heard across
the country. So he was. It sounds to me, because
after that two day delay, I'm pretty firm in my
opinion at least that he was probably pulled the sides like, yeah, Terry,
we're gonna used to go on the air and do
an apology or something. No, I'm not doing that now, okay,

(58:40):
Uh brown box. That'll be for your personal items.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
Here you go, here's a banking box, got some nice
handles on it. We did we didn't scrimp for you.
We put we got this from office depot.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
Yeah, empty that out. Here's your termination box. Take your
plant with you and it's been nice. We'll see you
maybe at Christmas. We'll see Yeah. And then just a
similar fashion, CNN let go of their reporter that was
responsible for the defamation suit in January. Alex Mark Quard
was just dismissed.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
Yeah, that took a while. Yeah, that one they kind
of they had simmer for a while. I'm pretty sure
that would Yeah, that's just a cost benefit of analysis.
When you put the you know, like terry sweets in
front of every in front of the entire legal department,
and they and to a man, they go, I can't
defend this in court.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
I think that was more probably lawyers hashing things out.
It's like, all you have four years left at one
point two mil. We'll give you six the walk now
I want six five, we'll give you five and a half.
About that. Shut up, So we.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
Need nothing to remove your immunity, and we won't. We
won't defend you how about that.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
Love it all? Right? Well, should we take a break here?

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Absolutely, my cupof is empty.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Yeah, you were sounding a little parched, there was getting
a little worried about it. Yeah, but uh yeah, we
were heavy on television there in the first alf. We're
gonna slide into the movie side of things, I believe
in the second half. And we've got a kind of
a big announcement, new release announcement that's coming out of surprise.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
You know, I didn't know this one was in the
uh in the shoot, So I'm I'm a happy boy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Yeah, this one kind of came up all of a
sudden today, popped up like a mushroom on the sidewalk,
and like that never happens. What's this all about? We'll
get into that detail too when we come back on
the second half here of the culture shift, Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:01:03):
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spinning hot dens wide down helped the screaming on somewhere
scream my gods here, say all of them.

Speaker 5 (01:01:24):
He makes some of us.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
Say it doesn't back down.

Speaker 5 (01:01:27):
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he's got no not godd no, that go not the

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but not got do that said dot no no no

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no no that no don't no no no no not

(01:03:24):
that shows once up.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Alright, welcome back to the culture shift. Gotta say I
love that song. You what else I love more foreshadowing foreshadowing?

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
Yeah, totally yeah, I just gotta say about that. I okay,
So with my new Bluetooth setup I've been using for
podcasting lately, I walk around so I like listen to
the break music and I absolutely it's a really good setup.
And I absolutely forgot about that left to right pan
guitar slide in the first few seconds, and I thought

(01:04:23):
I had a wasp on a suicide run on me. Yeah,
I I ducked.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
I was like, oh shit, see they were replicating the
high tension wires coming down.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
With an audio yeah, and boy did they well the uh.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Yeah kind of teas that we're gonna get into the
movies here, but will throw a quick one out here
because we do cover multiple mediums or media as it were,
a plural. Nintendo came out with the new generation of
the Switch and there were some early views on it
that were, I don't know, less than effusive.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
Let's say we'll say mixed how about that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Okay, that works. Uh, the people didn't give a damn. Yeah,
this thing sold like crazy. What are they up to? No,
is a three point five million units.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
Three point five million, three point five million units in
the first four days.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Yeah, that's that's good if it's just a video game,
not the gaming device itself. So for that to take place,
holy crap.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
Yeah, I you know what, just because I saw not
a lot on American social media that had to be
mostly in Japan.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Yeah, but I think if you get the switch, you're
playing on the switch, so you're not going to be
on the media. You're playing video games that lot.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
The only real thing I saw about it was some
contrived controversy because some woman, you know, in her Instagram
posts so I guess she's a reviewer and everything like that,
she had two switches and two pizzas, and everybody was like, oh,
look at the fucking privilege, blah blahlah. She's like, do
you think I'm the only one in the house and
I'm eating two fucking pizzas? Have you looked at me?

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
So?

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
Yeah, that was I mean, that was you know that,
that was the big blow up I saw about the
Switch too.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
I just have to enjoy the people that get upset
about that. Yeah, two pizzas you privileged white chick or something.
I just I'm amazed at what gets people upset anymore
as somebody who doesn't get upset because largely I don't care.
You know, other people don't anger me to that level.
Oh dare you put that on a pizza?

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
Give a ratsasshen's on his pie? Yeah, I mean, unless
it's pineapple. I'm generally, you know, pretty apathetic about most
things that you know. It helps feed the cynicism. That
is why people keep coming back to the show.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
It's the only way that would offend me is if
I was served it. Maybe that's about I like pineapple,
so I'd probably gut through. It's like, well, I like
pizza like pineapple, maybe not together, but I little do
it whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
I mean, I love pineapple and I love pizza. But
you put the two together.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm not. I'm the same. Actually I
had something like that. I was watching one of the
other playoff games. Buddy, I know at the bar. He
comes in late to night. He's like the best thing
on the menu when he got it. You monster cheeseburger
with peanut butter on it and everything else, and I
was like, dude, I don't I don't get it. It's amazing.
And he cut me a corn you know, a sliver

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of it. He's like, here, you gotta try it. And
I started eating it and it wasn't horrible, and I
just looked at him. I was like, I love burgers.
I love peanut butter.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
This is just I'm like, I didn't want my Twitter feed.
I have been preaching to the I am a pilgrim
in un holy land when it comes to peanut butter burgers.
I am preaching that to be great, unwashed. I have
g and I have converted so many people to it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
I've well, I can say I tried it. It's just yeah,
I didn't. I didn't hate it. It was more I
told him, I say, I like the flavors, but I
give an uncomfortable feeling. It's almost like if two neighbors,
ones of Palestinian and ones in Israeli and they actually
get along and you just can't process that. It's kind

(01:08:41):
of what's going on in my mouth right now.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
But everybody's happy, and I don't forget it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
It's like, this isn't supposed to happen.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
It's supposed to work, but you know what it does.
You know, Sonic had those for a while too, but
I mean, in true Sonic fashion, it looked like ass.
But people, you know, that's how they got broke into it.
And I'll give you the full breakdown on how to
make a proper peanut butter burger. And I use a
jalapeno jelly too, so I get kind of that's my
peanut butter and jelly burger.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
So well, see that's kind of interesting that I'm like,
that kind of goes with me. That makes a little
more sense.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
Yeah, I mean it's yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Yeah, getting upset about pizza and the switch to just
doesn't really compute. But yeah, I mean Nintendo smoked it.
I mean what it sounds like to me. I don't
have the hard numbers, but based on the sales of
this version compared with the first one, this almost sounds
like it was bigger than the Wii because that probably

(01:09:48):
didn't go anywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
This one's come out with a new Mario Kart and
a new Donkey Kong too. I don't know if they
were bundled. I don't think they are, because that's not
Nintendo's style really, but but what.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
Was was there anything lacking with the first switch? Does
this one have that many new features?

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
I can't honestly say. Nintendo is very Disney, I think
is the way to safety put it. They don't. They're
the family friendly console. M Yeah, there isn't a lot

(01:10:31):
of titles on there that you know. It's like, you
know with Xbox and PlayStation they go for hyperrealism and
you know, my god, did you hear that guy's eye
squish when I put my bullet through his brain? And
you have that kind of where Nintendo is very you know,
they have their cast of characters going back to the
eighties that are very family friendly.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
That makes sense. I mean on xtbox, you're going for
the kills and know you're going for coins.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
It's just yeah, and you know you're going you're going
for the goal, the run. And you know PlayStations always
marketing themselves along with the A sports So.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
Sure, sure. Now I just said it cracked me up
because all the advanced word I heard was real muted.
And then did that come out that came out a
few days ago? How's it? Holy crap? They moved some
units that uh good on them. I'm just gonna say that, but.

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
I'm yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
I mean, it surprises me because it's a handheld as
opposed to you know, tied into your television directly and
all that. So it's I guess they're appealing to the
younger market. And if you're gonna go with the Disney comparison,
you're always going for the next generation that moves up

(01:11:58):
because it goes that quickly. So you know, five year
old that got the first switch is probably twelve now
and about the age out and get into the big
gaming systems. Then a new one for the next generation
comes up and they can play blue on the switch.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
To that kind of thing exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Well, we were talking a lot about the political shenanigans
and some of the lawsuits creeping up, in one of
which involves CBS News sixty minutes Donald Trump's doing them
for their interview, and just a little sidebar with the
CNN feature Saturday Night, good Night and Good Luck. Scott
Pelly was on afterward speaking to Henderson Cooper about the

(01:12:41):
state of journalism in this day and age. This is
Scott Pelly giving yet another interview in the last few
weeks about how he is not allowed to speak. Yeah,
I'm like, I'm to the point now where I'm getting
sick and tired of hearing about this guy talking about
being censored while never being censored, not even It's like

(01:13:04):
sixty minutes is being oppressed by the parent company. I
listened to you, asshole two weeks ago, smoking Paramount and
giving him a grief fast on the air Live. You
weren't silent, Scott, shut up already with your sensory.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
Hey, do you sign a job because you shouldn't if
you're being censored. You've absolutely gone. Yeah, that's uh.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Like when people were at the Kennedy Center last night
where Donald Trump attended, It's like we're fighting fascism coming
to the Kennedy Center. It's like, really, fascism was there?
How many people were arrested at the Kennedy Center last
night just out of curiosity?

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
None. That sounds the opposite of fascism.

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
Actually, what I liked to I saw some commentator on
Twitter today and you know, her whole thing is, well,
it's ironic that Trump was that one miss. It's like
he doesn't know the story. I'm like, do you I
think he gets I don't know if you do.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
I saw a lot of people posting that, and I
was like, shut up, he hasn't seen it. You're spoiling
it him. Let him see the show, right. But other
people are like, you know, this is a representation of
what he's doing. It's like it's fiction, right.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
It is probably the most romanticized and sanitized version of
the French Revolution you.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
Could ever never mind. I mean, if you want true oppression,
it's a musical. There you go, I'm being repressed. There's
my oppression.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
But I catch you tune. It's gonna stick in my
head off fucking week.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
The reason that Scott Pelly is so cranky I think
we have seen on display now because Paramount, the company
desperate to be bought out by sky Dance, just laid
off hundreds of people because they they're just bleeding. They
need to be bailed out by sky Dance. They can't

(01:15:03):
be because of a lawsuit. So this is what's happening.
This is why, this is why the executives are leaning
on them and saying, hey, how about them reporting on
the truth now so we don't get any more lawsuits.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
Stop impressing me.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
Yeah, that's uh what we're looking at. There though that's
the facts of the matter, all right. Getting into the
movies itself, though, this one kind of you brought this
one across and I'm still trying to make sense of it. Alamo, well,
the theater chain is kind of oh that one.

Speaker 3 (01:15:42):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
They're known for being not niche, but they're they're very
selective there. They come up with all kinds of different ideas.
They're very creative in the movies they choose in their
lounge theater style locations, kind of avant garde. These people
of movies, Well, they're one of their top executives just

(01:16:04):
got taken by Imax and brought over to their entity. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
Why the reason why I dropped this and because it's
definitely one of those that doesn't make sense. How does
anything with Alamo draft House? I mean, aside from yeah,
you said that they have a pretty unique curation of
the films that they Yeah, but what does that have
to do with fucking Imax? That's I mean, Imax is

(01:16:32):
Michael Bay, It's the exact opposite. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
Basically, the the Imax format can just be described as
big and loud, yes, and you know, special effects, monsters, robots, animals, doc.

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
H deep note.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
Yeah, they you know, it's all about the big movie experience,
not quirky buddy comedies from the nineteen seventies or independent
romance features that they dug out of someplace, you know.
And I mean Alamo does a whole bunch of different things,
and it's a lot of it is about it's almost

(01:17:18):
like yeah, yeah, definitely that film festival vibe is pretty
much what they go for. Yeah, art house stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
You know. I mean they've got they've got a cool
I mean, their whole thing is very you know, consumer
orientated with I mean, from the food to the seats,
it's all very for theater enjoyers.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
It is. It's you know, it's the it's the movie experience.
It's you know, going out to the theater, going and
hanging with people that love movies and talking and having
food and such. It's not sitting back and just getting
this orgasmic last of visual and audio.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
That's not yeah sized bucket of popcorn and you're one
hundred and twenty eight ounce doctor Pepper. You're going there
for a different experience.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
I mean, if anything like a CGI choke special effects
film probably loses something in an Alamo draft house. It's
just yeah, but yeah, they brought her over and now
she's going to be an Imax executive.

Speaker 3 (01:18:26):
Okay, well yeah that's I I exactly. The reason why
I dropped this is because we do love this industry
and how shit just doesn't make sense. And this is
like this, this is like taking the old e c
from Docker and putting them on fucking I don't know,

(01:18:50):
he's giving them the anchor spot of CNN. Yeah it
makes that much sense. Yeah, like, actually make more sense.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
Take a take a ship that was in the champions
competition on Chopped and after winning everything goes and gives
a job at Burger King. Yeah, huh, I'm sorry, you're
goat cheese Porcini drizzle is not really going to play

(01:19:19):
in the drive through my point. That's what I'm trying
to kind of put together here. But again, this is
why we do this, and we're not in Hollywood because
we make sense. That's our problem. Well, on that tone,
we might finally find a group of people in Hollywood

(01:19:40):
that are listening to us. Is that possible?

Speaker 3 (01:19:44):
Maybe?

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
And listening is the operative word in this one. The
sound editors groups in Hollywood have come out and declared
that they are no longer going to I don't know,
no there's the right word, but they're refusing to recognize
those that are employing AI in their work to be

(01:20:06):
considered for awards.

Speaker 3 (01:20:10):
Yeah, and it's kind of funny. They said, you know
that this was announced for the calendar year, will not
be open to anything with generative AI. I liked this couch,
and we will be reviewing previous winners, so they're going
to take award. I mean that is really I don't

(01:20:34):
even know how to feel about that. It's like you're
paying for past sins, you know, because now as saying
you're going to pay for in retrospect recalibrate, are we yes.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
That's but we have to bring this up though, because
that's one thing we've been talking about ever since the
Hollywood Stripes, and that is the studios have basically been
giving them all the middle finger, all the guild and like, oh, yeah,
we're doing AI. I don't care if you don't like it.
But now the sound editors are like, we're not going there.

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
So yeah, I mean, if if you're new to the show,
we covered at length the actors Writers Directors strike a
couple of years ago, and as we keep bringing up.
The main sticking point, the absolute red line, do not cross,
we will die on this hill, was no AI. And
since that moment, since the before the ink was dry

(01:21:29):
on the contracts for everybody to get back to work,
the studios have bent over backwards to say, fuck you,
we're putting AI in this your replaceable. Shut up.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
It was almost as if the studios came out with
a statement that said, we're gonna use AI that was
generated by.

Speaker 3 (01:21:46):
AI, right if they can figure out how to AI
craft services, they.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
Would and and in short order too. I mean we're
talking what two years is a strike, and it's we've
had story after story of how they're doing Oh yeah,
the voiceover are going to do it. Oh yeah, we're
using commercials. Now, we've got writers. We're in discussion with
chet GPT and yeah they didn't care.

Speaker 3 (01:22:14):
We're developing music for you know, and we've got top
artists who are going to be, you know, contributing to
the AI as it as they guide it through, you know,
because that's cheaper than a whole band or something. You know,
you know, we're gonna get We're coordinating with the musician
to give a snippet of the eventually build into the score.

(01:22:37):
So this is a bye weekly show. Since the strike,
we have had no less than one AI. The studios
fucking get contract with one AI story, no less than
one story an episode.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
I mean, we're literally on the verge of actors losing
a job because they're going to give the role to
an AI version of an actor from the nineteen forties, right,
not gonna be shocked if that ever takes place.

Speaker 3 (01:23:02):
Yeah, I don't know. He wants above scale. Can we
get somebody to whip up a Bogart look alike? I
know we got the voice down.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
Well, Seth Rogan got passed over because they gave the
role to Groucho Marx.

Speaker 3 (01:23:17):
Something funnier and dead. He's funnier well deadez.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
But this, this is a unique step. That's why we
have to bring this one up because for the first
time we're actually seeing somebody in Hollywood like, wait a second,
you said no, So we're putting our foot down on
this one. Damn unique to see that, all right, Well.

Speaker 3 (01:23:42):
That the one who would be screeching loudest would be
the sound editors, because they're gonna they are really the
ones who are on aside from riders, because while good
AI is, well, it's not like the writers have been
good lately either, so it's not like it's lose. Yeah,
I would say second only to writers are a sound

(01:24:03):
editor is replaceable, and.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
That might be why wait a second, You're just gonna
hit a button and I'm out of work.

Speaker 3 (01:24:12):
I think. I think the only reason why the Riders
haven't come up with a threatening awards is they don't
have one.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
That I remember. They do have a w G a
award show, but I like nobody watches that outside of
other writers and people sitting in Starbucks trying to become
a writer. That's about it. Yeah, well, good luck on them.
I mean, for for once, it's taken two years for
somebody to actually come out and say, wait a second,

(01:24:42):
this is a horseshit. But okay, they finally did it.
There you go. Well we've we had some good teaser
music there at the break. And that's because I son,
we call this a franchise. Is this it feels like
these Godzilla movies aren't really cohesive.

Speaker 3 (01:25:05):
It doesn't matter. It's a franchise. It is absolutely a franchise.
I'm you know what, I'll put my foot down. It
is a franchise.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
All right, I am a legitimate question. That's what I
was asking because when they rebooted it, what ten fifteen
years ago, I actually enjoyed that one. It was really good.
Had the yeah, had mathra, but the special effects were
pretty well done. You're always gonna get me when when
water is cascading off of a giant creature. That always

(01:25:35):
some reason, that effect always affects me. I just like it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
Yeah, it gives you the chills.

Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
Well, it just it's like, damn, okay, that looked good.
Even uh, you know, even a movie as dumb as Rampage.
I will sit there and just be gobsmacked every single
time the alligator rises up out of the river for
the first time. It just looks that good. It's cool.
I'll take it. But another Godzilla is on the horizons.

(01:26:01):
And the reason I'm asking about the franchise too, is
because they've tied it in with King Kong now and
they've you know, brought all that back in. It seems
like it's all over the place, and yet at the
same time it's Godzilla. It's gozero.

Speaker 3 (01:26:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
So yeah, got a new one on the.

Speaker 3 (01:26:21):
Horizon, Yes, the new one coming, And there's been a
little bit of buzz. I haven't seen a lot, but
I've seen a little bit. And it's Godzilla. It's Godzilla
X Kong Supernova. Yeah, it's And the the hubbub about
it is Matthew Medean's in this one, and he on

(01:26:46):
his Insta shared a poster of nineteen ninety four is
Godzilla versus Space Godzilla, and in the poster it has
the uh Mathrs Faery god Twins warning of the space
Coach and that was weird. I'm doubling up and uh

(01:27:08):
so that made everyone lose their fucking minds that we
might be getting space Godzilla.

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
And this is why I was asking the franchise question,
because usually about version number seven in a franchise is
when in space takes place. Right, happens with Vorhees, that
happened with Leprechan, it happened with Predator versus. At some

(01:27:37):
point in time, they're going to space, just the way
it works out. I didn't know if it was too
early or not. That's why I was trying to get
some clarity on the bridge.

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
Well, when it comes to the Kaiju, space is always a.

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
Factor, Okay, all right, I didn't know it was early
or not.

Speaker 3 (01:27:57):
Did you see who's attached to this other than Matthew Modine?

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
Oh no, I thought he was a big name, but you.

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
Got Sam Neil, Dan Stevens, Jack O'Connell, Delroy Lindo. Yeah,
it's it's got some hotness in there.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
They're taking it seriously. Yeah, well you should might be
time for our big announcement, then the big break, the
big breaking news speaking of space sequels.

Speaker 3 (01:28:32):
Nice segue.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
What I did there? Do you want it? You want
to take it? Because I think you might even be
more excited about this.

Speaker 3 (01:28:39):
I was more excited about the Godzilla one. My my,
my tweet on this, and I let my start get
the better at me because it wasn't really fair, is
uh So? Mel Brooks tweeted out today that after thirty
eight years and you'll assume me seeing me crawl. That
was posted on social media day on melbrooks account. Scrolling by,

(01:29:03):
I asked, is this gonna be funny or is it
gonna be like a Stray World Part two? Mm? Hm?
Well I starkt ahead of me because I really do
owe that a second watch. I think I was just
expecting Kiss the World Part one and when I didn't
get that is, well, this fucking sucks.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
Well, see, I was there with you the I I'm
gonna probably I don't know, I'm gonna go on a win.
I'll say it. I wasn't a huge Spaceballs fan. I
mean I understood. I knew where he was going for
some of the stuff worked a lot of it though
it seemed like low hanging through throughout the movie exactly

(01:29:45):
kind of how I looked at it. Here's the thing, though,
it's Mail Brooks. That's the issue. So I'm always looking
at it from a Blazing Saddles level when it comes
to Brooks stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:29:59):
Right, I mean the thing he does is a parody,
an obvious parody, sometimes too obvious, like scary movie obvious. Yeah,
there's some notable extensions, like yeah, exceptions to it, but
uh yeah, when your body of work up to that point,

(01:30:20):
you've got Blais and Saddle's History of the World, Young Frankenstein,
I mean, on and on and on and on and on,
and then Baseball's was just this ham fisted.

Speaker 2 (01:30:32):
Just I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:30:33):
I mean, yeah, it's okay. I know I'm gonna get
a lot of hate because there's some huge Baseballs fans
out there, Jesus Christ. But you know, it's a cultural event.
It's it's mimable. Everybody gets it when they see a gift.
They know what the scene is, they know what the
joke is about.

Speaker 2 (01:30:52):
So and that's kind of where I was, you know
with that, Phil. I don't don't hate it. It's just
you know, you got to kind of slog through some
long stretches before you get to some good stuff. And
it's okay. I mean, it's it's there. And they made
the announcement a new one's coming thirty eight years Holy crap,

(01:31:15):
that's the thing. But I mean mel Brooks is still added.
He's in his nineties now, right.

Speaker 3 (01:31:21):
Yeah, I think does he turn one hundred this month
or vide Okay, no, I no, I think he does.
Let me you know what, let me fire, let me
do some Google foo here.

Speaker 4 (01:31:34):
Yes, it's ninety eight as of June twenty eighth, or
ninety nine as of June twenty eighth.

Speaker 3 (01:31:40):
Okay, you know what. So God bless him just pushing
anything out right now, stool a movie whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
He's And you know, at the very end of this
promo today he's there talking about it. Now, I will say,
modulate your excitement. It's due to come out and twenty
twenty seven.

Speaker 3 (01:32:02):
Yes, so as I the only the only information that
exists about it is that crawl I haven't seen, you know.
Oh and uh, the whoever it was that directed History
of the World Part two is on board.

Speaker 4 (01:32:18):
So and Bill Pullman will be back.

Speaker 3 (01:32:23):
Oh okay, well all right, well we got that. I mean, definitely,
she's still alive. John Rivers is dead, John Candy is dead. Yeah,
I guess the mostly mostly cast is still around. So yeah,

(01:32:44):
I'm just Martin, not Martin Shark Jesus Christ. I just
absolutely drew a blank on who played Dark Helmet.

Speaker 4 (01:32:53):
There is that Rick Moranis will be back as well.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
Okay, yeah, because I thought he'd retired from acting. That's
what I was surprised by.

Speaker 3 (01:33:02):
Yeah, I remember that was a big thing because it
was like everybody was outraged when he got mugged during COVID.
It's like, I've never seen the country unite and when
you see somebody get punched in the face more than
whoever mugged Miranas. So yeah, yeah, it's good to go
out when you're so popular.

Speaker 4 (01:33:24):
Well, just an update, Deadline is reporting Rick moranis is
returning for the new Space Balls movie.

Speaker 3 (01:33:32):
All Right, you know what, I'm gonna give this one.
If Pullman's coming back and Miranda's is coming back, and
you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna be cautiously optimistic.

Speaker 4 (01:33:45):
I'm gonna change and I gotta add one other thing.
Bill Pullman's son will be in it as well.

Speaker 3 (01:33:56):
Huh, Dark Star Junior, or it would be the third.

Speaker 2 (01:34:03):
Space both two. Nipotism strikes back.

Speaker 3 (01:34:06):
Yeah, And if that's not a joke in it, I'm
gonna be disappointed because that's the obvious kind of thing
that mel Brooks would go for. Yeah, and it's that
inside thing. If you don't know that that's Bill Pullman's son,
you're not going to get the joke. You know. That's
it's like the Oedipus joke in History of the Little
part one.

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
But I was I wasn't disappointed as you were in
History of the World Part two. Yeah, that one just
and I felt like jokes were written by committee and
almost like Melwyn around the table, it's like, Okay, you
get this era, you do that era, you do this one.

(01:34:49):
Nothing really felt right about that one.

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
You know, it's the kind of thing that I would
expect Phoebe waller Bridge to be attached to.

Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
Mm hmm, well.

Speaker 3 (01:35:04):
Yeah, okay, maybe this time around.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
All right, well, we got to wrap up our usual
fashion and hit the Nielsen numbers. What's going on in streaming?
And what is it? This one? Uh, this one kind
of surprised me a little bit. Not shocker, but it
was like, all right, I'm happily surprised because it's a
good one. And OR is the number one original option

(01:35:30):
right now.

Speaker 3 (01:35:31):
Yeah, just under a billion minutes watched on this one
for twenty four episodes. And this is the one that, again,
if you've been listening to the show we've been talking
about along, this is the sleeper in Disney Plus's cat.
People watch it because it's good, but they don't tell
anybody else except for their absolute closest friends because they
don't want it to get fucked up. But now that
it's the final season, everybody's come out and said, you
know what, this is fucking good. Watch it and uh, yeah,

(01:35:55):
so it's getting Disney won't learn from it, no, but
it's getting the ratings that it deserves.

Speaker 2 (01:36:04):
Yeah. And then the whole thing with the indoor too
is it's not. It doesn't have all of that. I
don't want to use the term space porn, but it's
not all robots and lasers and everything else. There's actually
a story. It's kind of dark. It's filmed the WIR.
There's intelligence behind this, but it's still in the Star
Wars universe, and that is anti Disney, I think is

(01:36:27):
the best term I can come up with for this.

Speaker 3 (01:36:29):
It really is. And you know, in a lot of ways,
if you're not familiar with the material. If I were
to pitch you on it, if you were a fantasi
fi but you weren't familiar with this, how I would
pitch it. It would be it's a lot like the
first season of The Expanse, or it's more of a
cop procedural and space and you know I go with that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:52):
Yeah, this is basically it's a prequel to Star Wars,
you know, before the kids got on board. That's the
way to say it. Star Wars for adults. But it's
number one original impressive. Second place is you with twice
as many episodes and yet didn't top it? How about that?

(01:37:14):
I have zero interest in this one Secret Lives of
Mormon wives on whom Yeah, to.

Speaker 3 (01:37:20):
Get around of secret lives of Amish wives. Then you
know I'll start paying attention.

Speaker 2 (01:37:25):
They're they're kind of moving in that direction though, cross
your fingers. But let's Gope's number four.

Speaker 3 (01:37:32):
Is nub series better?

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
Sorry one day, one day they'll let the cameras in.
Then we got American man Hunt for Osama bin Laden
the four seasons. That's the remake series based on the
Ellen Olda movie of eighty one Poker Faced. New season
there on Peacock is that it.

Speaker 1 (01:37:54):
U?

Speaker 3 (01:37:55):
Yeah, gotta be on the board. Fourteen episodes. It's either
at an end of a season one or the start
of season two.

Speaker 2 (01:38:05):
Then we got The Handmaid's Tale. Of course, mob Land
is creeping up. That's got a lot of heat to
it though. People love that one.

Speaker 3 (01:38:11):
And then the Secret Sweep Deep no idea.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
On the acquired series Shocker, Blue Beat, Gray's Anatomy. Kids
are kids are out of school, That's what's going on.

Speaker 3 (01:38:26):
Yeah, they weren't this week though, that was we need
to Bebysitters.

Speaker 2 (01:38:32):
Yeah, criminal minds, the Last of Us, The Rookie Ben.
People are eating the Rookie up. They just love that one.
I'm surprised by you got some quality and see I
you know, I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:38:44):
Gonna say this real quick. Aside from Blue, which is
exclusively on Disney, Uh, Hulu being up there in the
top five from one has been pretty unusual with anything
that is not sharing space on another network with right,
But you know, it's everything else. Is that nepotism of

(01:39:05):
Hulu and Netflix? Who in Paramount plus? Hulu, Netflix and
Paramount Plus For the next one we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:39:11):
N CIS is on three platforms. Yeah, whoever is behind
that doesn't have to work a day in their life ever.

Speaker 3 (01:39:19):
Again, I just got to know, is it do they
each have a separate block of seasons because sbu I mean,
NCIS was only on for one hundred and fifty years,
so it's like, Okay, you get the first fifty years,
you get the next fifty years you or do they
all have all the episodes? Now?

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
I think they portion it out because I know, like
Brooklyn nine to one one, they they only get like
one of the four seasons usually, And it was weird.
It was like they have seasons one through four. Now
I think they have five through nine, but all of
them are on Peacock of course, so it's kind of

(01:40:01):
really weird. How they're structuring these contracts anymore. But it's
funny at the same time. Number seven, we got Big
Bang Theory this one. I'm surprised this isn't higher Law
and Order Special Victims. How many law and orders do
they have? Geez? And then we got SpongeBob and Family.

(01:40:24):
Get on the movie side of things. Uh, yeah, this
one's got some heat to it. Nanas.

Speaker 3 (01:40:33):
Yeah, a billion Vince.

Speaker 2 (01:40:36):
Vaughan ushers in a collection of Italian grandma's to open
up a restaurant. Seriously, that's the movie.

Speaker 3 (01:40:46):
Yeah, that's that. That is probably the most Vince Vaughan
project I could think of. For Vince Vaughan, that's not
what is something he can make good. Vince Vaughn has
a very specific type of character, and this is the
kind of thing. It's either he should be doing this

(01:41:07):
or Hallmark movies.

Speaker 2 (01:41:10):
He's literally ten years ago. If you had pitched this
movie to me, I'd look at you and go, come on,
what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:41:15):
Yeah? Stop it, stop it? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:41:18):
Here he is a deadly American marriage on Netflix. I
haven't even seen this one. I've been on Netflix a
lot lately too, watching.

Speaker 3 (01:41:26):
Stuff I have too, and I haven't had This has
not popped up on our radar, not on my suggestions
or anything.

Speaker 2 (01:41:32):
This is what I have though, instant family. They're pushing
this pretty hard across the platforms. The Beatlejuice sequel has
come across HBO Max, so that one's hitting Nova Caane.
This was in theaters and now it's on Paramount Mowana two.
Of course, Paddington in Peru. I still don't understand this franchise. No,

(01:41:54):
the kids love it, But when you say in Peru
on a movie title, what's the attraction a cocaine? Today
there's a new James Bond movie. Oh no kidding, Yeah,
he goes to Peru? Oh does he? Okay? I mean I.

Speaker 3 (01:42:13):
Probably of the two capitals, because that matters.

Speaker 2 (01:42:17):
But Paddington the Bear goes to Peru. I just don't
see the stampede for this, and yet it exists, calling
me surprised.

Speaker 3 (01:42:25):
Another is going to Peru to teach people about fucking Peru.

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
Now I have to watch it, way to go? Okay,
explain this one then Rogue one a Star Wars story.
Did this just hit the platform?

Speaker 3 (01:42:43):
Uh, I'm gonna have to say probably collateral with andor.

Speaker 2 (01:42:54):
Maybe then I don't know, it's just curious to see
that one of all of the Star Wars movies cropping
up into top ten.

Speaker 3 (01:43:01):
You mean, the good one of everything else since Disney
purchase the franchise, the one chip in your crown.

Speaker 2 (01:43:09):
The one that it managed to get right. I think
Kathleen Kennedy was on vacation. So the top ten, the
overall all categories all top ten, and Or was the
one to come out on top, followed by I look,
great mixture here we got and Or for original Bluey
for Acquired Noah's number three for movies movies, Academy, Criminal Minds.

(01:43:35):
You last of us, the rookie Secret Lives of Mormon
Wives made the top ten. What are you doing with yourselves? Seriously,
get a library card?

Speaker 3 (01:43:43):
Please stop, please.

Speaker 2 (01:43:48):
And there's Forever from Netflix is number ten. That's what
everybody is streaming. I didn't see snow White anywhere on
the list.

Speaker 3 (01:43:58):
You know, I am tote surprise as well, because this
is you know, it's the one thing. When we do
the streaming numbers, they're from roughly about a month ago,
and that was when it was making its big debut
back in the theaters where it rinked in a couple
thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:44:20):
Yeah, this was the the big splash on the streaming.
But maybe that's the thing too, is that this was
when it was on still on the rental side, So
this is when you can get snow White for twenty bucks. Yes,
I didn't want to go to the theater for twenty bucks.
So yeah, maybe when it graduates the Disney Plus someday

(01:44:40):
it'll it'll.

Speaker 3 (01:44:42):
Maybe I think it's going into the vault before it
goes on to it, I really do.

Speaker 2 (01:44:49):
All right, it's gotta wrap it up for those ones.
So or doy, why don't you let everybody know where
they can find some more of your content out there?

Speaker 3 (01:44:58):
Well, shit, Raan, thanks for asking. You can find me
this week? Actually, you know what I've done for the
rest of the week. There's no Juxtaposition this weekend. Where
can you find me? Guy? You can't find me anywhere
until next Wednesday, where I will be on Rick and
already on Wednesday night, then next Saturday, I will be
on Juxtaposition with Rick as we turn our focus our

(01:45:20):
attention on the strange and unusual and uh got oh,
and I Vincent Charles Project coming up on Sunday as well.
How about you where let me find you.

Speaker 2 (01:45:32):
I'm quite varied in across the inter tubes. You can
find me on a daily basis over at town hall
dot com where I've got my media column there it's
called Rift from the Headlines and on the front page
of Red State on a near daily basis covering culture, politics,
and other things as far as media goes to. I
also got a twice weekly podcast there called Liable Sources,

(01:45:55):
going Deeper into the mayhem of our press corps. And
you can hear more of me on this network. For instance,
tomorrow afternoon, I got my weekly hit on Rick Robinson's
show Noon Eastern. I'll be sitting in with him to
discuss the news of the week. Also Thursday evening. This

(01:46:15):
next week, I'm gonna be here a Paul Young Fromfremant
dot com to go through the dark side of Hollywood
and bad movies on Disasters in the Making, and every
Tuesday evening at eight thirty with the ever for Vest
and Aggie Reekin. Although the upcoming episode might be in limbo,
might have to do a repeat or pass it off
if anybody wants to take it over. She's still on
hiatus and I'm gonna have a Stanley Cup evening. I

(01:46:37):
believe if we make.

Speaker 3 (01:46:38):
It that far and Stanley's Cup show some respect to you,
he then.

Speaker 2 (01:46:45):
I don't recognize royalty. I'm an American. And then if
you need more of me than, let's face it, you do,
head over to jitter. I am at Martini Shark. All right,
already we cut through that pretty quick ton of content,
as always had a blast.

Speaker 3 (01:47:01):
Oh damn well, that was just that was a pactful
of jam, wasn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:05):
We managed to do that on a regular basis. We
don't have to tell Yeah, we'll be here in another
fortnight bringing more of that vital entertainment news for you
here on the Culture Shift.

Speaker 3 (01:47:22):
Hell hid H
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