The Culture Shift with Brad and Ordy: Victory Laps

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:57):
Hey, welcome to Thursday Night k l r and Land.
This is your early introduction to the weekend. You are
listening to the culture Shift. I'm Brad Sliger getting ready
to usher you through the dark alleyways of Hollywood and
all the pertinent information. But I'm not doing it by myself,
because every two weeks joining me on this venture is

(01:17):
America's most laser focused and digitized Amish individual. Already packer.
What's going on today?

Speaker 3 (01:25):
It is the start of pumpkin spice milf season. I
am excited. I mean some people are excited for football.
I'm excited for leggings, boots and oversized cardigans.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
So let me gush you if you've gone on Amazon
and ordered the pumpkin spice, deodorant and cologne in order
to turn enough heads from the milk crowd that you favor.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yes, yes, and you know pumpkin spicing all the things
you know, core form whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Already likes himselves some basic bitches, is what it came
down to.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yes, I love myself some hand solos.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
But yeah, we're you know, when you live in the
tropics as we do, it's not such a big event
down here, so we kind of miss out on that.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
We might get a day or two of it, we
get whole seasons.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Well, we'll have those magical days where it dips below
seventy and the women that are desperate enough crack out
the YOUG.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Boots because you know it's chilly. I may have to
put on a vest.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
My ankles could be a little bit chilled. I need
to put on these fashionable boots in South Florida.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yes, well that's what's going on with me. What's going
out in America's wang?

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Oh we were, uh, you know, we're just basically cruising
through it over here. It's it's August. You know, you
and I were discussing this. It's it's kind of a
lull all across the nation, both politically and and the
entertainment sphere. The summer blockbuster seasons wound up, kids going
back to school. Congress is out of session. We have

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to actually work to get content for a change, damn it.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah, it's not just falling in our laps. It's uh,
you know, so we actually have to go to page two.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
I know, it's like the low hanging fruit is out
of season. So we had to actually put in some
effort this time, Sons of Visious. But nonetheless we managed
to come up with content because that's what we are,
professionals in that regard.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yes, but really, what do you need to know? And nothing?

Speaker 2 (03:32):
But probably we should kick off metaphor intentional with what's
probably the biggest indicator of a seasonal change across the
country and the culture, and that would be football season.
College pretty much ramped everything up last week and tonight
debuts the NFL, and so the networks are popping champagne

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already because now people will actually tune into their channels.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah, you know, we talked a lot about that, you know,
during the upfronts and everything else. This season. The networks
aren't promoting any of their TV shows everything that they
have to promote as sports.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Pretty much because that's what they have now. But the
only time we're going to learn about they're scripted in
other programming is during football season because that's when they're
going to promote everything. So we're going to come out
of commercial and after kickoffs and stuff. Get ready because
the chiron's at the bottom of your screen are going
to light up with they starting this fall on NBC

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and there you go. So it's uh, we've covered before.
How year end measurement of the network broadcast to this day,
I'm still amazed at the figure the top one hundred
programs listed ninety five were NFL games. Yeah, I think

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three college games, the oscars and the State of the
Union were the only variables in the entire thing.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
No, it was you think about it, that's a lot
of football games. But no, I mean it. I mean
even like the Who Cares Balls of the Week were
still you know, in the in the rankings.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
You had to go off the chart. I mean I
had to dig in. And the first time you got
into standard programming on the broadcast networks was around one
hundred and thirty five hundred and thirty six something like that.
I mean, it was sports or nothing.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
And broadcasting is dead.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah, that is just how reliant upon NFL they are.
Because if the NFL wasn't around, or if somebody else
dropped forty billion dollars for the rights Netflix, then the
networks will probably die as we know it. It's just

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that bad. I mean, a few months ago we started
tabulating how Fox News now on a nightly basis is
the top rated show on all television. It's beating out
the network.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yes, it's even beating out the sports So.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Not yet, I mean right now. It's just like I
think about two or three weeks ago was the first
time they beat out all three of the majors. It
was always for some reason CBS still had like a
lingering audience for their cop traumas and such that was
just edging out Fox News. But in the last month
or two all three now come in behind.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
The senior population just needing background noise. See is safe
and I'm familiar with cop procedurals, so nothing surprising coming
from this.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Did you know there's a new mattlock on I Am jazzed?
You know? And that's that was all it was saving
their bacon. But now nope, h Jesse Waters is out
drawing all three of the majors. Amazing. So yeah, CNFL
has kicked in, and here's a recognition of just how

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desperate things are. ESPN has also been dying on the
vine of late because Cord cutting is so prevalent now
mm and it I think it was about four or
five years ago. ESPN hit their peak. They were like
at about one hundred million subscribers. And they make it
sound like that these are people automatically you know, yes,
I want to No, it comes with the package, is

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what it comes down to, right, And their numbers started
the Comcast bundle.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
If you want any ABC affiliate or anything, you gott
to carry ESPN.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah, I think that the way, at least by me,
it was working out. Like the very basic was your
news networks and weather, local affiliates, maybe a couple scat.
I mean, this is basically what grandma and grandpa had
in the house. The first tier always then had ESPN,
ESPN two and a couple others. But when the cord

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cutting started to take place, that's when you saw the
drop off on ESPN. So they've become desperate and they've
wanted a better chunk of football broadcasts. But they've been
getting snapped up because everybody sees them. So Fox, CBS, ABC,
they all have their little niche of the NFL. And

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now yes, Amazon Prime got in with the exception of tonight,
they carry the Thursday game. Netflix is now looking for
a way in. So ESPN was like, damn it, we're
gonna get left behind. You know, they got Monday Night
and that's it because they own ABC with Disney. They
just struck a deal to take over the NFL channel

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because yes, the league was trying to do this, like
they were trying to get the channel to established. And
it's about the one thing regarding the NFL that never
really was successful.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
And well, I mean other than the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
I see what you did there. The intention there because
like the NFL channel was always in like upper tier
packages of cable, second or third even, but they were
trying to create a demand by making Thursday only on
the NFL channel when people were like the hell, I
don't have it, Yeah shit, I gotta go to a bar.
And that was about the yelling motivating factor. Then people

(09:37):
were showing up drunk to work on Friday because of
it national scandal. I'm dramatizing. I'm trying well, but yeah,
curiously that has never worked. Like the NFL channel, not
many people watched, and then the NFL broadcast the games
were creating tensions, so they kind of softened that. They

(09:58):
also came up with the red zone, which was only
successful then because so many people are playing fantasy.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Right that.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
I mean, it's if you had DirecTV. That was the
reason you had direct TV because of all the blackouts
and everything else. Here was like, well, at least I
can watch a red zone. I mean I worked in
a couple of bars where we would just have the
red zone on. We were cheap.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, you got to do that to a piece for
all the fantasy players. But the deal that was struck
in just about a month or so ago, ESPN and
the NFL network worked it out. So now ESPN's taken
over their broadcasting and as a result, the NFL gets
a ten stake in the network. So it's kind of

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a win win, I suppose, and people will be able
to see those games.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
I mean that that would be meaningful if you didn't
realize that Disney owns ESPN. Well, it just we're struggling
so bad. They've got the House of Mouse behind them.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Well, I think you know, NFL is about the one
thing they can't screw up, although they're trying to. Because
Roger Goodell is now instituted that teams once again put
let's end racism in the end zones. Yeah, because that
was so successful five years ago, Roger, I mean I

(11:27):
only have to ask a question, you've done this before.
Did you not end racism? I'm confused? Or does it
mean this is a completely neutered batch of virtue signaling.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Well, I mean they did it in you know, twenty
twenty and when everybody was stuck at home for some reason,
and it was so wildly popular, they continued it into
twenty twenty. Oh no they didn't. So yeah, apparently they
just figured everybody forgot.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Well, I mean we all remember years ago people walking
around with football jerseys that said, let's end racism on them, right,
didn't that happen?

Speaker 3 (12:09):
I know that the merchandise was sold much the same
way that CNN Plus's NFT was sold.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah. I think I think stuff of that nature is
probably being warned by children in Uganda right now.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yeah, whole container full of that shit just dropping down
with Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Some of Miami Marlins fans since they won the World
Series last year. So that's that's going on again. Here's
I mentioned this on the Christian Garrick Show yesterday. Why
does the NFL do this when they are a league?
Based entirely on egalitarianism and producing. In other words, the

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rosters are filled of poc end of it rules. Right,
So racism in the NFL is about the dumbest topic
to bring up.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Yeah, I mean, are you telling on yourself or they?

Speaker 2 (13:11):
You know, yes, we need blocks to have more opportunity
in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Kind of move that makes me wonder if Godell's dating
a twenty one year old.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
That's Bilichick. But sure well.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah, but I mean he can't be the only one.
And for a league wide, you know, decision like this.
It's not like all the owners said, hey, you know
what we need to bring back.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
I mean, it's just that the NFL is the I
can't even call it the exception. It is the standard
that proves it out because it is based on merit.
It's based on you producing it. As long as you
do well, you have a job. In fact, many people
that should be in jail are still working in the
NFL because of what they do and produce. Therefore, you

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are the emblem of the fact that the country is
not as racist as you're insisting upon it, because yeah,
you produce, you play, you got a job. It doesn't
matter your skin color.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
The NFL and Washington DC are really the only places
that there are a two tier justice system. I mean no,
that's in a lot of places, but it's really got
the esclamation point on it. And either of either of
those that, no matter what you do, you are a
privileged class. And yeah, because like you said, there's two
that should be in jail for a very long time,

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not just like DUI shit, you know.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
I mean yeah, it's like, isn't he gonna get sent
away for twenty years? I don't think so. Have you
seen his quarterback rating? And there you go.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
So now he's going to do a couple United wayte
spots and that'll accounts committies. I'll be good.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah. Is the United Wife still a thing? I haven't
heard about them for years.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Once they shut down all the USAID money, I don't
even know who's still an organization anymore?

Speaker 2 (15:11):
True? True, I mean it used to be who couldn't
watch a game without hearing about the United Way. And
I was like, man, I've heard about them for decades
and I still have absolutely no idea what they do.
I mean, good stuff apparently, but.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Allegedly. Yeah, they're just anybody who has ever benefited from
the United Way or.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
You know, well that's yeah. That's the other thing too.
You don't really run into those people. Thank God the
United Way was there when I was twelve. They turned
my life around it. Look where I'm at today. I
just don't know these stories, not saying they don't exist.
I just maybe I'm too privileged. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Yeah, if anybody can tell us what the United Way
actually did, just tell us in chat. It'll be We'll
all be the better for it.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
I'm I mean, I'm quite certain it was a charity
that did good things. I don't doubt it. I just
don't know it. So that's all I'm saying. But I
will say this, there was at least one upside, and
that was it was purely by accident. I was actually
in the tavern watching some other games, and who comes
on the channel but Rich Eisen, who I've you know,

(16:20):
still watching every now and then would hear his podcast,
But there he was at ESPN. That was like, I
didn't did a double take. I was like, what the
hell is he doing in the desk? Oh, that's right,
because he was employed by the NFL network and now
he's under the umbrella of ESPN and he's allowed to
come back. It was it was good to see and

(16:43):
hear him that way. It seemed like that's where he belonged.
So I always liked Eisen He's uh yeah, he just
he's got a real sly sense of humor. He's not
boisterous about it. There was a one of the things
I remember. NBA had a guy that he came out
of one of the Ivy League schools or something. He

(17:04):
was gonna be a star, but he said, I'm I'm
gonna start the season. I'm gonna pluge you guys in
the press that I'm never going to throw cliches out
there when you ask me questions, you know, like I'm
so smart kind of thing. Then they cut the Rich
in the studios like, man, that's impressive. Sounds like he's
gonna take every interview one at a time. Damn Rich,

(17:27):
look at you throwing the cliche out to make a point.
Love it. I was like one of those was like
I gotta think about that. That was good solid. So yeah,
the NFL is kicking off and that new arrangement has happened,
and Jeff through this one ads while we're putting our

(17:48):
content together. I'm still trying to figure this out that
there were more information on the commercials that'll be shown
during the NFL Red Zone, Like they had to announce
for us that there's gonna be four fifteen second spots
in the seven hours of Red Zone in week one.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
Okay, not full.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Ad breaks where the action disappears, but instead be like,
you know, they'll shrink the screen and move with the
sidewall commercial. I'm kind of used to that already. What's
what's the news on this?

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah, you're gonna do You're gonna have chyrons and banners
just like news.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yeah, it's kind of called ad breaks. I mean they
do this during NASCAR, They're doing it for years. They'll
just shrink the screen. You can still watch the race
while the ad plays over here.

Speaker 5 (18:39):
Well, if I can interject something, I just found this
article right at the beginning of the show. The reason
this had to be spelled out because oh, it's you know,
Scott Hansen goes oh in seven hours of commercial free
NFL is how we usually started the show. People when
people heard that there were commercials, they didn't know how

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many in what format, so people were actually not signing
up for the Red Zone, so they had to do
a little bit of uh mitigation on when and where
and if you notice, everything only says week one that
these four commercials were air that that means wide open.
If they're going to add more after week one and

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what's all going to change, they're being very coy. But yeah, apparently, yeah,
apparently their sign ups for Red Zone was way down,
so they had to come out and do a little
bit of damage control.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
And they really think that was the reason, Like somebody
climbing on the table. Damn it, there's a commercial that's
going to be on during eight games playing simultaneously. You
I was surprised.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
I was legitimately surprised, but because it was so open ended.
People are you know, you saw some jokes made on
Twitter about you know, someone about to score a game
winning touchdown and they cut to a Burger king or
something commercial. But yeah, there was apparently a strong enough
uproar because they were very short on the details.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yeah, consumerism.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
It almost strikes me as them pointing at that as
an excuse. Agreed. I mean seriously, if you like, I've
had the Red Zone channel before and it was really
I just I would pop it on because my team
wasn't playing and I didn't know who to watch. The
effort put them all on, And honestly, it's done entirely

(20:44):
for guys with fantasy teams or those that are doing
parlay bets like I'm FanDuel I need them to get
five more yards that kind of crap. Otherwise it's you're
not going to lose your mind about it because the
stats are going to be there in sixty seconds. So
I'm thinking this is kind of the network making an

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excuse like, oh, it was a commercials that's why they're
not signing up.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Yes, that's but I also go fans, you know, and
there are those damn racist fans don't want to watch
Red Zone because yeah, I'm sorry, Disney method just creeps
in to everything they touch. Soon it will be we
did not get enough Zone subscribers because of racism and massage.

Speaker 5 (21:32):
Well soon they're gonna have to replace Scott Hanton with
that that chick on the ESPN that didn't know what
a Barry Sanders jersey was.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Oh man, that was such a beautiful moment. Clearly you're
wearing a Dione Sanders jersey. What his current team and
his former team do not have blue? How does clear
even come into the conversation and yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
The booth fucking weather and just said that into her ear.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
I just would probably be the case. And it was
that was that was the comedian Druski. Did you see
what he did, by the way over the weekend.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
The the white face thing, the white body thing.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
I mean, that guy. Damn.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
See here's you think everybody they're trying to oh, all
the blowback because he did white face. No, it's not
because he did white face. It's because he did racist
ship while in white face.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
I honestly, I don't even know there was blowback because
that when I saw it, I was like, holy crap.
It's one, it's funny what he's doing. Yeah, But two,
I kept, you know, scrolling his feet, and I'm seeing
people saying, well, Maga's losing her mind. People in the
world are losing her mind. But I never saw the
people losing their mind. I just saw the insistence of it.

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And so it's the only thing I was thinking. It was, Okay,
he's in white face. Is this acceptable now? Or is
it just on that side? You know? I Mean, it
wasn't like I was losing my mind. Here's pecking on
my people. It was like, I, if you look at him,
I'd say, damn, that's a typical redneck. But then you
see him, you know, talking and stuff, and he's like,

(23:24):
all right, this is a pure performance, way over the top.
But it was funny too.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Yeah, this is Borat doing white face.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
And then when I saw him spit on the ground
in front of a black guy, I had to laugh
because it was a black guy doing it, and I
was waiting to see it's like, we don't Nobody was
screaming about it though you know NASCAR doesn't do there's
word wrong, but white people don't behave There's why nobody.
Nobody was doing that. It cracked me up. But I

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also had to question, well, I wouldn't ask he was
actually a VIP at this track. Why would NASCAR buy
into that? Because they just went through the Struggle session
a couple of seasons ago with the whole noose in
the garage and this would seemingly be the last thing
they would even want to go near, let alone touch.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
And you know, at what point is Bubba Wallace just
playing the heel?

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Well, that's the thing, is Druskie's doing this.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
He just play in the heel. I can't tell.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah, that's I've wondered this similar thing is like it
because it almost seems like he's doing it so that
NASCAR will have a way to address this and get
away from things as opposed to it really being a problem.
This is me like going real Tinfoil had about it.
But I don't know why they would do this. I

(24:53):
think it was the Monster Racing team that that had
something to do with this, because he was hanging out
with both of their drivers at some point in the video.
But yeah, I would think NASCAR would want this way
off the track, like NIF sir, no, no, thank you
don't need this. We catch enough grief. And he you know,
he was playing all the stereotypes. I mean, he's wearing overalls,

(25:15):
he's fat and overweight, farmer tan and I mean the
makeup job was amazing.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Yeah, it was a great makeup job.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
But I mean, I and this is it kind of
proved out what I've always said though, is like I
just don't have that offensive gene in me, So I'm
seeing him play like the most stereotypical white redneck. Never
even affected me, never even thought about getting offended by it.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yeah, well, Meg is so offended. You know, this is
like the dude that played Commissioner Gordon. Did you see that?

Speaker 2 (25:48):
No?

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Oh, all the racist blowback I got for playing Commissioner
Gordon was disgusting. Bro, I don't even know who you are.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
It's like, wait, what did I miss something?

Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yeah, it's like, I'm sure you have receipts for all
of it.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Well, yeah, I heard about. My assistant told me what
was going online, and yeah, got it. Sure?

Speaker 3 (26:15):
When when was Patterson Batman? That was like four years
ago and you're just talking about it now. Somebody's career
is in trouble.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Oh that's okay. It was from that movie, all right.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
I think so. Yeah, Yeah, it's hard to tell without
bat nipples, it's hard to tell who the Batman is.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
No, I just it just dawned down me. Now I
know who you're talking about. And I saw the movie
and it never even registered with me to be bothered
by that, right, you know why though? It wasn't made
a big damn deal.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Right, Nobody nobody said a goddamn thing about it.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Like they did ahead of time, say no, we've got
a black commission reporting. I don't want to hear any
racialists'm about this. They just did it play out and
look what happened. Everybody kind of accepted it.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
And nobody said shit. And now we're four years later. Oh,
it was just disgusting. It was repugnant. It didn't exist.
You're not getting a lot of work nowadays, are you
a sport?

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Show me the account that had either an actual name
or an actual photo for the avatar, right, because if
you're gonna show me somebody with some kind of sixteen
bit video game avatar and a name like Barry Underscore
six two seven five blue X, right, I'm not impressed.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yeah, launch code, yeah something. Back in the old days
of Twitter, we called them eggs.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Mm hmm yeah yeah. Join Twitter in April of twenty five. Okay,
got it, got it? That kind of that person bothered?
You understood? Well it just.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Twitter Twitter in twenty twelve and has zero followers and
just following fifteen thousand.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yeah, they're the ones that show up in your DM.
Well there's one other, just a little side note to
the football season. Stream East, the world's largest illegal sports
streaming site, has been shut down. Yeah, and arrest have
been made of the people who operated it. Out of Egypt.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Yes, the Alliance for Creativity and Entertainment ACE, the cable
acewards fifty media organizations. They got a resounding victory as
these perpetrators were finally shut down and it looks like
they were being bankrolled out of the UAE. Guys, can
we just finally admit that the UAE doesn't give a

(28:56):
fuck about any law any any well anything really, because
it seems like all the ship that happens lately, whether
it's anything, anything that happens in the Middle East that's shady,
the UAE's got their fingers in.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Yeah. I got to say my biggest surprise with this
one was that it wasn't either out of Russia or China,
because Russia basically hates US, and China could give two
ships about anything involving intellectual property. They will steal, copy, pirate, appropriate,
and do anything else with anything entertainment wise, and basically

(29:37):
look you in the eye and say, what are you
gonna do about it? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (29:41):
I dare you to try. I mean, they were streaming
content from the NFL, NBA, MLB Formula one m m
A and you know pretty much anything that was on
pay per view.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Well, I mean I'm not all that familiar with streaming myself,
but this is probably a testament to how how pervasive
it was in the marketplace. Somebody had a video they
shot on their phone. It was like a high school
basketball game or something like that. Lebron James is in
the front. He's watching other sports on his laptop on

(30:17):
stream East. Somebody said it was like, wait, is Lebron on?
And they zoom in, Holy crap, he's on Streamya's watching something.
It's like, that's funny. The Cats were tens of millions
of damn dollars and he's pirrating sports broadcast amazing.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
So he's chief and a queen. So Michael Jordan he
is not.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Oh but, as as is frequently the case, they h
they went ahead and popped these guys right on the
eve of the football season. So there's probably a ton
of people out there grinding their teeth right now.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Right, I gotta pay for you gotta, I gotta pay
for red zone.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yeah yeah, I've been, you know, with somebody that had
one of the pirratings. I say, it's like, uh, you know,
I got a few different links I can use for
this game. The best one's YouTube, however, it times out
every ten or fifteen minutes because I guess YouTube is
hip to it, and they put like an interrupter in
the signal somehow. So Dave was like, oh crap, gotta refresh. Okay,
we'll be up in a minute. So this is what.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Happens when you don't have the express written consent from Roger.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Goodell in Major League. But yeah, you don't. I mean,
there's a lot of these that are out there. I mean,
I should I go to the bar, Like a game
doesn't come on, and it's like, oh, I got a nap,
I could put it on. We could bomb it on
the TV. Everybody pretty much seems to know about one
or another, right, but for them to go after this

(31:49):
one and one of the bigger ones was pretty damn
amazing and impressive, I gotta say so.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Yeah. And that's one of the things with everything old
becoming new again. Once the streamers started to can you know,
conglomerate and congeal and I'll become under you know, five
or six houses, then piracy got back in vogue, you know,
because you weren't caring if you're like three a month
for you know, whatever bullshit streaming service that had your

(32:15):
game on it, you know, or your team on it.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
I mean I've used it before out of desperation because
I tried to go the route of the NFL package
and that was like two seasons ago from YouTube and
they just remember it's like a couple of games weren't available.
It's like they're supposed to all be available.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Blacked out, but it.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Was always the one game we had to see. So
like the Bills game. No, it's only on their local
and we don't have rights to it. You got your
NFL package.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
You are the NFL.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
The thing that surprised me here though this is an
American product, but they arrested people in Egypt. I'm not
sure how that. Usually that's how they duck it.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Yeah, do not underestimate the long arm of Major League Baseball.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Yeah, apparently the NFL has more extradition than the United
States government.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
But okay, one really flexing that muscle from f.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
One learned the lesson from them and took it further.
Well done. Well, got no way to really segue here,
I guess. But one of the topics that you and
I cover quite frequently on this show extensively, one that
has brought us mirth and amusement to great extent has

(33:45):
been the ongoing trauma and struggle in Hollywood with artificial intelligence.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
It's becoming it's just so much damn fun you know,
as an AI user and not in the user, just
a user. It's funny watching everybody play catch up with
something I've already only been used in six months and
can navigate my way around it pretty well. Here are

(34:13):
people in the industry going, fuck, oh, how are they
doing this? Magnets? How do they work?

Speaker 2 (34:24):
The I got that reference? Uh. You know, as we've
been detailing, have been i'll say, in conflict over this topic.
Understand the and we've said this number of times already.
The Actors and Writers' Strike was heavily vested in artificial

(34:47):
intelligence being addressed studios. At the same time, there you
want to talk about Schreddinger's technology. They they recognize this
as their doom, and at the same time they can't
resist using it.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Don't go into the light. I can't help it.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
It's so beautiful, and they have We've talked about it frequently,
how they're just using it more and more for like
cut scenes in movies, and they're using it more for
voiceover work now, putting those actors at work which they strike. Yeah,
and don't do pickups if they have to. Oh, we
can't get the actors together. Just better to use AI.

(35:27):
And yeah, the you know, the studios have been edging
more and more and more into that frontier and now
they're pissed off about it.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Well, what's funny is that, you know, while they swore
up and down, you know, to resolve the strikes, Okay,
we agree, we won't we won't use AI. Fuck did
you see the show we're doing with AI? It's fantastic.
Don't even need you guys anymore.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
I think it was like a month after the strike
ended they started having confabs and meetings and such with
the AI. Yeah, like they were bringing them into the
studios for a weekend, retreating stuff to discuss things. What
did you They just told you not to and you're
hoaring yourself out to the devil.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Well, I don't negotiate with terrorists, so I'll sleep with them, right.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
So as they're getting in bed more and more with AI,
now we get word that no fewer than three major
studios are looking to bring a lawsuit against an AI producer.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Yeah, in this one, Disney and Universal have already gone
the route Warner Brothers Discovery. Uh kind of, so well,
this isn't really affecting us at the moment, So we really,
you know, we don't have a standing to use the
illegal term. And now all of a sudden, holy shit,

(36:54):
all of our Batman and Superman stuff's getting used. Let's
get in on that.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Yeah, this, I tell you how this feels like a
bunch of sixty seventy year olds are at the studio going,
I don't where about ai? Nah, no big deal, and
then an interward comes rushing in. Did you see what
they're doing with our superheroes? What get the lawyers? How

(37:20):
did you not even see this coming? You would think
that they would have had lawyers on the front lines
of this before the strike, because this is your intellectual property, and.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
No it we require them to have intellect.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
It, as often happens on our show, we tend to
give these executives operating the industry of entertainment too much credit.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
I mean, if you and I can, if two old
beer guys can figure it out, I'm.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Just a lowly technical cave man. Yeah, your your technology movement,
Oh makes me wonder and gives me a headache, And
yet I can still see that AI is a problem
for a major studio. The major studios are like AI,
that's what the kids are using on their tick and talk.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
We'll worry about it later when it becomes a problem.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Oh shit, there we lost a billion dollars last quarter.
Blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
What yeah, I'm buying our Batman and Superman T shirts anymore.
They're just running it through AI, coming up with a
custom image and printed out themselves.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
I think what is going to if it hasn't already
woken up the studios is something that has been taking
place to a degree in Disney's been on it, at
least their lawyers have. When fan made movies were coming
out a few years ago, made on CGI mm hmm,
and people were watching them as like that's pretty entertaining. Atily,

(39:02):
this is uh, this is quite better than the stuff
that Disney shit not lately for And it's as soon
as they heard that, we like, wait, what sue them?

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Kit in the Mouse lawyers, you're that lawyer that's been
persecuting kids for having Donald Duck at his birthday party.
Get that fucker. I want him on this.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
I mean you would think that the I don't know
a glimmer of an idea would have been like, holy crap,
that was a fantastic video. Hired that son of a
bitch and bring him into your mag car stuff, give
him real money, no sue.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
The dinosaur building software.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
So basically you had Star Wars fans embarrassing the studio
that owns the property.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
And this goes back. I've talked about it a couple
of times years ago when we were talking about Star
Trek ripping off that indie game ro Sure, there was
a crowd source for a thing called Star Trek proto Daxonar,
and it had Richard Hatch and you know, Tony Todd
and had all these actors in it who were you know,

(40:11):
they were paid, you know, to do it and everything,
and it was better than anything the Kurtsman had farted
out in the last five years longer, and they have
been in lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuits since. So yeah,
so yeah, I mean, they'll use their lawyers when it's
you know, making them look bad. But see, and in

(40:36):
this case, I don't know that they really have standing.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Well, the whole reason I brought all that up is
what's going to start happening now is people will be
using AI to do ten shots of Batman Superman and
they're going to be much better than what they've been
parting out lately. And you're gonna have a harder time

(41:01):
suing these people because they could do it on the
fly behind a VPN and it is out there. It's
not like somebody had to go, you know, to an
actual studio and grind it out on CGI bank computers
and come up after months with a ten to fifteen
minute cut. This is somebody that can you know, put

(41:24):
their game on Twitch on pause, have a Gatorade, Red Bull,
and pump this thing out in a matter of minutes.
And it's like, oh, yeah, after our game, I got
this kick ass Batman thing I did. You gotta see it.
It's gonna be kick ass.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
Yeah, you're gonna take it. It's fucking awesome.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
And then you can just see the hair on fire
at Warner DC Studios the next day. How did they
do this better than us?

Speaker 3 (41:47):
I want you to fire everybody over at DC Movies
right now, get this kid. But that's not what happens. Yeah,
and then uh stifle creativity rather than embrace it.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Yeah, the lawyers are gonna say, yeah, we're on it.
We tracked it down to a server in Metagascar, so
we got our guys knocking on doors of huts over there.
So this, I think is what's going to be the
problem is that the studios have to contend with this. Now.
I don't think me. I think the studios themselves can survive.

(42:20):
But you know who's really screwed right now, people in
special effects and animators. All right, yeah, they're about to
get priced out of the marketplace in a matter of
a year or two because.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
I'm watching I was watching some AI generated ship the
other night. It was Stormtrooper Greg and uh, it took
me the first video I actually thought that it was,
you know, like some mil dudes, you know, like up
at some base in Alaska, just doing this for fun.

(42:56):
And it was the second one. Whether you watched, I went, okay,
this is all AI. So but it is the first one.
I really and I know AI. I can spot AI
pretty quickly, and it was so good that even I
was like, maybe it's been touched up but with AI.
But this feels real, you know.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
I just saw a thread was it yesterday? Somebody posted,
you know, it was like how to generate a million
hits on your account or something, And it was a
shot of a dog in the backyard with a hose
in its mouth that was running. Trots into a living
room and he sprays the sofa and then he turns
aside and the hose spray now was right on the

(43:35):
flat screen TV, and puddles are now on the floor.
I had to watch it a couple times to pick
up that it was AI.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
Yeah, there is that little bit of artifact that's in
it that ye like whenever you can tell somebody copy
and paste straight out of GROCK or GPT when it
has that double line, then nobody uses.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
I mean, this is on the phone. If it was,
you know, blown up larger, probably would have been more obvious.
But I mean the quality of this was damn fun
and on par, if not better than what you see
with CGI. I mean I could watch a movie with
CGI and you can pick it out pretty easy too.
There's still that uncanny valley going on. So if people

(44:18):
are doing that kind of quality just with basic AI platforms,
now hollywoods in deep shit. I'm sorry, there's no other
way to put it. They are they're facing something monumental,
right now.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Yeah, the particular lawsuit we're talking about here now that
Warner Brothers is on it is they're all going after
a company called mid Journey, And mid Journey is kind
of like the they're like the Grock of the GPT
for generating AI videos and yeah, this is you know,

(44:57):
and it's kind of like, you know, they're they're they're
trying to mid Journey's trying to play the the same
game that Twitter and Facebook and everything else uses. Look,
our users know the rules, you know. They they're the
ones who are you know, going you're violating your IP
not us. You know, it's in the terms of service.

(45:19):
They can't do this. Go ahead and hit them with
a d with a d m C a strike which funny,
that works pretty quick because we did a Vincent Charles
project where we got cala Ren's YouTube channel got hit
with a copyright strike and we were doing we were

(45:40):
reviewing a movie from a country that doesn't exist anymore.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
So the country doesn't exist, but their lawyers do. Yes,
it was produced.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
By the state media of letting you know, the Soviet
state media. We were doing the Rush Lord of the
Rings and in the middle of our broadcast we got
hit with DMCA.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
So yeah, it's present.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
I'm bored in time to get his nickel.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
The pretty much the basis of the lawsuit, though, I'm
I've got questions about because it isn't about generating product
that infringes on copyright. It's about using existing IP to
train their AI.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
Yeah, and this has been, this has been, this has
passed through the courts. It is legitimate for fair use,
you know. I mean it's kind of like implicitly be
told you cannot use my material to train your AI.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Well, that's something I don't think the lawyers anticipated was
this type of usage because effectively, what they're doing is
going to the bookstore and buying a novel, scanning it
and then the computer can read the text of hersuln.
You've actually purchased the product legally, right, and you're using

(47:10):
it for personal effect. You're not necessarily putting something out
there under the guise of it being their product or
using their product for your own enrichment. You're doing something
apart from the marketplace right now.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
Right.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
So that's where I'm in a great area as far
as copyright in freement.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
Yeah, that's that's why I don't believe. I mean for
two reasons. One it's training AI, which the courts of
determined is legal and fair use. And two it's the
users of this company, not the company itself that's producing it,
so that would be you know, it's like, I mean
the DMCA strike we got Jess she got hit a

(47:54):
few years ago for singing Christmas songs, you know, videoing
herself singing Christmas. She got a DMCA strike and so
you know, yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Did you say Happy Birthday on the air? Oh my god,
those people. Yeah, So it cracks me up to note,
how are how was the publisher of Happy Birthday collecting
any royalties? Yeah? Never never.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
I think that's in public domain now but only recently
hopefully so. But yeah, this is running into every Chucky
Cheese is in a country getting their ten cents.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
But this is where the I think the studios are
screwed because they're doing this right now. Let's say they're
taking a Batman movie and in putting all of Batman's
movements into their AI. Mm hmm, the computers learning physical
manipulations and such. Now a user can go in there

(48:54):
and create their own superhero, completely different appearance, costume, everything,
their own storyline, but the computer animates it based on
what it's learned by superhero movements. You're not using their
product on a copyright basis, and so anybody now can

(49:17):
make their own comic book film. Yeah, what the hell
could a studio do at this point? I mean, the
lawyers can't go in and say, okay, erase your hard drive.
As soon as you do, the AI is going to
become sending it and download itself onto another server somewhere,
So good luck with that.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
J your band from using AI, you know.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
And then you'll have the AI scraping your email account
finding out if you had an affair or not. Mister lawyer,
just mourning you. We've covered these stories. Yeah, I don't.
I mean, Hollywood's in trouble.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
They are a big well, I mean, all all production
houses are in trouble. I mean, you know, Jeff has
some familiarity with this industry. But you know, a couple
of months ago Janie Max said, hey, do you know
anything about working with AI? I said a little bit,
and she said, well, I want to take this, but
I'm trying to do this, that and the other with it,
and she gave me a picture. I spent ten to

(50:14):
fifteen minutes with it in just regular chat GPT. I
wasn't even using any advanced imaging software and I basically
had a book cover generated for her.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Right, Yeah, that's another one. Graphic artists are going to
be completely phased out because you can do it. I mean,
on my podcast at RedState Liable Sources, I went to.
It was, you know, an art collective online to have
them do the graphic for me. Just I mean it

(50:45):
was it was more out of convenience. The price was right,
it wasn't much at all. We worked hammerd some things out,
Boom they generated. I got all the rights to it
came out great for me. That's what I needed. That
was three four years ago. Today I could do it
probably in five minutes.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
Yeah, myself.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
So I'm pretty sure that industry is also being impacted here.
So yeah, book covers, no problem.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
I mean the music industry too. The Alice in Wonderland
we did, Jeff, I mean that's still. I mean, whenever
I'm testing any audio, I use the song with Jeff Abe. Jeff,
how long does it usually take you when you find
out a juxtaposition topic to generate a song for the
breaks after.

Speaker 5 (51:25):
I write the lyrics ten minutes.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Yeah, and these are kick ass songs. I mean, just
he's getting better and better every single time.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Oh yeah, I've heard of them and it's like, damn,
and you want to take credit for composing and you
can't because you did it. And there you go. I mean,
I yeah, I've played around, but I use it for
my graphics, like on my couple of my columns, like
the Remy Awards and stuff, and I just have, you know,
burp out a Remington gold typewriter on a pedalstal for

(51:58):
a trophy. Here you go, mm hmm. So yeah, that's
another industry that's screwed.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
The only thing. And I mean once once they teach
AI how to flip a burger. America's down as a country.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Well have you seen those restaurants?

Speaker 3 (52:17):
Yes, I know that.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
I know.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
It was a couple of years ago they were doing
an AI I think it was the one in Barstow
where they converted an entire McDonald's over.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
To AI run.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
And it got everything right if I remember right.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Well, we talked about on the show the other night
with Daggy that Taco Bell was. They've they've been rolling
out ai at for drive through at like five hundred
locations for a year or two now, and they're only
starting to run into some trouble because it's uh getting
a glitch in the system, like you order a drink
and then ask if you want to drink with that?
That kind of pops up now and then, but it's

(52:54):
in frequent the script, like there's a there's a handful
of videos out there of customers going through this, but
that's that's all you'll find.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
Coke you want to drink with that? Yes, I'll have
a seven up too. That's just upselling, right.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
But I mean those are like a handful of examples.
They've done this in five hundred locations already. That's pretty
damn good success rate. I think the humans have that.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
This is what happens when you all fought for fifteen guys.
Mm hmm, just remember who told you. But there is
any you want to take a quick break before my
drink runs completely dry or I.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Got all right then, So we will do just that,
and we recommend you do the same. So hit the lobby,
go get your refills as we do the same, and
we'll be back here on the culture shift in about
three minutes.

Speaker 6 (54:13):
I can't keep up Bill, what's.

Speaker 7 (54:15):
Been cold and down?

Speaker 6 (54:20):
I think my heart must just be slow down. I'm
not human means in the designed urgeans alady.

Speaker 4 (54:35):
Only you will love.

Speaker 6 (54:36):
Hears the screens, and the strangle cries lawyers, it love.
God sends his spaceships to her bed a beautiful.

Speaker 7 (54:58):
Then let six rock a bad We are the dude
both heading from gg trees, from too too happy dings,
waiting for a world War three, wild teas or slaves
to the baby calls of lawyers in.

Speaker 8 (55:21):
Love, shadow, shadow, shallow.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
Shallol.

Speaker 8 (56:11):
I watched the news, was in the cab.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
The Russians escaped.

Speaker 6 (56:19):
While we weren't watching him.

Speaker 8 (56:22):
But relations will say we didn't never got the moon,
and I even the US. I will be older soon.

Speaker 6 (56:37):
As vacation man for boys.

Speaker 8 (56:41):
It love.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Now, is it.

Speaker 4 (56:56):
Said?

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Oh right? We are back here on the culture shift,
enjoying a little Jackson Brown or was it Ai?

Speaker 3 (57:33):
You know, I forgot how much of that song slaps lyrically.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
It's just ship. I uh, I actually enjoy it, you know, yeah,
like Russians driving song. So wherever we are, well, we've uh,
we've hit the big ones. Now we gotta hit the
Uh No, I'm not the filler so much with the
stuff that we had to dig up. Yeah, the deeper
dive that we had to do in order to come

(57:58):
up with stuff, which went do you want to hit?
We're all over the map here today.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
You know what, let's just talk about how blowback never
does with American Eagle.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
I think, yeah, this is one of the things that
we've talked about before, how we've seen literally a culture
shift in this country over the.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
Last year, where hence the name of the show.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Well, I think they're taking after the show we came first.
But yeah, now, what we've been seeing pretty much since
the assassination was the country on a hole going, you
know what, We're fed up with scrap, We're not putting
up with her anymore. And the woke activist virtue signaling
nonsense no longer really works. And so Sidney Sweeney goes

(58:48):
out and does a conventional advertisement for jeans. Yeah. Literally,
there's nothing objectable about it. No, I mean nothing at all. Honestly,
it's a racist dog whistle.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
Well, you know the interesting thing about dog whistles, there's
only dogs can hear.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Him mm hm. And you know that it failed significantly
when after a full week of incessant this is Nazism,
this is fascism, this is racism. Then they turned around
and said nobody was saying that the right was making
it up. Yeah, uh huh, thank you. Sure. Yeah. Basically

(59:32):
that's you getting your testicles caught in a vice and
realizing your mistake and trying to blame somebody else. Well,
it wouldn't happened if you didn't turn the loose. So
pretty much American Eagle came out and said, uh, what
are we apologizing for. We're making a shit ton of money,
And Sydney Sweeney was like, I just made an ad.

(59:54):
I don't know what everybody's freaking out about. Nobody bent
the knee for a a change, and that has now
led to we've only been saying it for years, and
that don't mean just you and me. So many on
the right are doing the same thing. Every time a
company would come out and say we sincerely apologize, we

(01:00:15):
had no idea that we were fin it's like, stop it,
you nutless wonder. You're only doing more damage.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
Don't and need has admitted to wrongdoing, even if perceive
you have just given the them weapon to use for
internity against you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
See, this is the hidden little secret that the left
doesn't want to admit to. When they come out with
an accusation, you're being racist, sexist, transphobic, whatever the hell
they accuse. The second you apologize, they don't sit there
and go, oh, thank you, that is exactly what we
needed to hear. Yeah, no, they say, oh, they just

(01:00:57):
admitted it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
Aim we were right, it was racist.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
So now you're apologizing and admitting guilt in their eyes.
And then it stays that way, and now they walk
around and say definitively, well they apologize, it's proven that
they're racist. You've got no way out of it. Now.
If you just sit there and tell them, hey, you
know what, that's so cute, get the hell out of
our store.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
M yeah, because then when they're on black then don't.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
You completely defang them, and the venom never lands and
therefore nothing happens. These are people that are not your
customers to begin with, so when they threaten boycotts, you'll
never notice let them do it. So we're starting to
see that Cracker Barrel went through the same thing in
a different degree, of course, but nonetheless, when the people

(01:01:51):
spoke up and they instead of seeing, well, I'm sorry,
people have to put up with it. You have to
step into the new millennium. The little millennial ceo running
the show there said okay, we'll change it back because
they realized they're about to screw themselves hard an American eagle.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
Yeah, that was yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
I don't think they're that clever though.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
That's no, No, I really don't.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
And I think the new Coke thing is also kind
of a revisionism. Oh we meant to do that. It
was that was our bland all along. We just don't
have any way approving it. But sure, No, you know
my theory behind new Coke, right?

Speaker 7 (01:02:39):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
No, not off hand. Okay, So in.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
By halfway through nineteen eighty four, coke had already started
This was even before the law was passed. Coke had
already started shifting from cocaine sugar to high free toast
corn strup, and nobody really rose to stink about it
until they started putting it in the glass bottles. And
you know those glass bottle drinkers, they are fucking military it.
So they noticed the difference and they started grousing about it.

(01:03:04):
So that got a whole bunch of other coke drinkers
to start grousing about it too. So, okay, you know what,
We're coming out with new coke, and everybody just got up.
I want my I want my coke back because coke
was getting shelled in the Pepsi challenge, so that's why
they went with the new coke thing so allegedly, so
everybody's screaming about, no, this new coke is crap. Give

(01:03:25):
me back Coca Cola. I want my original taste back. Well, okay,
so now we've just destroyed the whole myth behind the
Pepsi challenge. People prefer coke and they don't want the
sweeter one, so they roll back. Well what do they do.
They roll back to the high fruitos corn strut version,
not the sugarcane version, but it was long enough in
the market where people forgot what the original coke taste
with sugar. The whole thing was just to mask the

(01:03:49):
final transition and to get people to ask for it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
I'll buy that, because I mean, the other prevailing theory
was the know that was right in the heart of
the cola wars and Pepsi and coke, and the infringement
was almost parody and then the Pepsi Challenge was having
an impact and that's when they said, oh, we should
make a formula change. And I remember the Pepsi CEO

(01:04:16):
even came out. I think it was a rolling stone.
He had an article where the competition blinked with the headline. Yeah,
they had the upper hand for probably a good two
to three months until the switch back and everybody stampeded
back and that was pretty much the end. Yeah. I

(01:04:37):
still have to laugh though. Anytime this does come up
documentary or such, they have to play the commercial with
Bill Cosby announcing new coke. Not a good lug anymore,
is that? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
I saw a meme recently, you know, try to avoid
having the sense that a moder shod had with having
OJ Simpson and built Cosby is the best min at
his wedding.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
Out. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
Well, so getting back to getting back to the h
the American Eagle between the City Sweeney ad and the
Travis Kelcey add forty billion impressions. I'm pretty sure more
of the former than the latter. American Eagle stock is
up twenty five.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
Yes, they are crushing Wall Street estimates. As they say,
the second quarter was just out of control and This
is a company that actually lost the what like thirty
thirty million, forty million last year. Yeah, yeah, So for
them to see market caps shoot up by the hundreds

(01:05:49):
of millions and twenty five percent exceeding production, I mean
usually it's you know, oh, they beat projections by a
point and a half, and you see the stock grow up.
Do it to this level, damn, and this is all
you need. I think the precursor to this was the

(01:06:10):
movie Maverick, because, as you recall, when the trailers came
out and they had the Timewhanese flag on the bomber
jacket that he wore, and they were supposed to apologize
and they were gonna take it off, and they initially
digitally recut it, and then they said, you know what,
we're gonna We're gonna leave it in, We're gonna gon
with it. We're just gonna you know, the USA and

(01:06:31):
anybody doesn't like it, don't buy a ticket, I guess,
but we're going boom. One of the most successful movies ever.
So that kind of I think had at least pinged
on a few people's radars, like, wait a second, we
don't have to count of these cry babies.

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
Huh, we don't have to bend the knee, and I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
Want to like give American Eagle one hundred per credit. Basically,
your company losing money? What the hell you got to lose? Right,
So hey, let's find somebody with nice cans and put
her under with our jeens. See what happens?

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
Yeah, lo and behold, hey is popular. Let's get her on.
Hey you want to wear some jeans?

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
Why not?

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Hey, I just sold bath soap and the company made
a ton of money twenty million, and I'll pull your
denim on. Okay, go for it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
Yeah, sold. But I mean last year just doing nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
Look at the look at the results here. So it's
pretty remarkable though, that it really that it took this long.
I mean for years we've been telling companies stop doing it,
and today I saw a Huffington postwriter was putting it
out there, picture from Union Station with a couple guys

(01:07:50):
from the National Guards standing next to two women dressed
up in Handmaid's Tales outfits. All right, they're still trying
to push this.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
Well you saw the follow up on that, right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
Oh yeah, it looks like it was her.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
It was the actual writer. Oh, someone indeed, you know,
nothing she's actually said was untrue. Though someone in someone
in Union station took a picture of the of these
two people dress as handmaidens approaching the US National Guard.
That is true. I'm sure the person she had take
the pictures sent it to her mm hmm of her addressed.

(01:08:30):
Nothing in the initial statement is technically untrue, and that's
the best kind exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
So, I mean she's in denial mode now. Of course,
wast me. People are like like like she said, uh,
these mag of people, they think like they see a
woman in glasses, they all look alike. No, this one
looks like you. Is the point?

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
Well, what's funny is I saw like a half dozen people.
You know, hey, groc is this, and Groc is like
striking resemblance probably.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Speaking of AI. Yeah, that's what we do now, we
rely on it on Twitter. But I just love this.
She's trying to sell this, Oh the handmaids. You know,
it's just so dystoping. This is Trump's America. A month ago,
Sydney Sweeney was Trump's America. You want to pick a
lane here. You outrage merchants because they're trying to tell

(01:09:35):
us for years now that conservatives want women in robes
and bonnets. They just want to suppress women and cover
them up. I'm sorry, I don't know any conservative men
that want that. Give me Sydney Sweeney, give me a
hot woman in a mega bikini. Give me hot looking

(01:09:57):
women wrapped up in the American flag cleavage spilling out.
Who wants handmaid sales outfits on women? I don't understand
even where you know ones.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
You know, because you can go traditionally, you can go slooty.
I'm all for the slutie.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Well, yeah, they do have that one, and you know
comes do own in Halloween, which is basically a bikini
with a tiny bonnet. Yeah mm hmm, or.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
The uh the red dress with the slid all the
way up the side and yeah, so I mean, yeah,
that was a nice one. Yeah, you can mold that.
Look however you want. All you need is to boy
it and you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Know, but it just it cracks me up so much
that they're dystopian dream They're trying to say that's exactly
what conservatives want. It's like, I'm show me one conservatives
love to meet them, because I never have and I'm
a conservative.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
So it's like that, how rare the women who dress
up like handmaidens are actually the ones that would be
chosen for breeding.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
I I'm just still amazed that these are the very
women saying you will never ever make me wear that
outfit I choose to wear on my own to protest, Yes,
I think you're right, because I don't think I have.

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
Your terms are acceptable.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
Well that's the other thing too, isn't it. It's pretty
much the embodiment of those on Twitter conservative men. I
am not dating you, Okay, what's changed since before? One?
I'm pretty sure you never would and two I don't

(01:11:39):
know that there was a stampede of people asking so right,
would you? Oh? Could you? I think we're in neutral
territory here, yeah, so yeah, and these are the same ones.
It's like, I'm not going to date conservatives, and then
I'm not going to wear a red robe and bonnet
that they make me wear. It's gonna be one I
choose to wear to show that I refuse used to

(01:12:00):
wear it while wearing it. I'm so confused now.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
It's I don't want to accuse them of having a
rape fetish, but I think they have a rape fetish.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
I just.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
I don't know, just the very fact because not a
single one of them would I choose as a brood mare.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
I'm sorry, no, true, And how do you address a
woman that voluntarily does that as a means of showing
that she refuses to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
I do it voluntarily because I won't do it involuntarily.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
I'm setified at the messaging because by telling me you
absolutely refuse to have a country where this can take place,
while you're making it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
Take place, it's parody, brad baffled satire.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
And then they make it sound like they're throwing it
in the face of conservatives, like this is what you
want maybe if you had a muzzle. Yeah, that we're
getting closer at least to what we want from you.
But I'll from that back.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
Finally, I'm getting those handmaids that I was promised in
Project To twenty twenty five, Like, there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
We planned on it and just without even trying, they
just showed up. This is even better.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
Yeah, didn't even have to wa one over the head,
didn't have to go okay man style, just you did
it on your own.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
So yeah, the handmade sale is back on Hulu, by
the way, and apparently doing decent numbers from what I see.

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
You know what, why can't we get the French protesters?

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
It's not because conservatives are watching the show. No, Well,
I think the only more impacted form of protests are
the women that will take all of their clothes off
in protest to people eating meat. So what you're saying

(01:14:05):
is if I continue to eat steaks, you'll get naked.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
I'm no, Please, don't throw me in the briar patch.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
I'm just I'm following your formula here. If I make
another t bone, you're taking your clothes off.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
What do I get if I have the old ninety six.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
Or I'm gonna order the Tomahawk steak and clear out
my photo cash if you don't mind. So this is
where we're at anymore in this country that they think
they're making a statement, and I don't think they've really
thought it through. There go, So Sidney Sweeney is the demon.

(01:14:49):
But I've really enjoyed the people in media who have
come out to say that nobody was freaking out about
Sydney Sweeney. It was you people on the right. Well,
here's the headline from MSNBC calling it racist. Here's Good
Morning America covering the Nazi outrage about this commercially.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
Here's the other news from CNN in a week.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
How many headlines about this do you want to see
before you don't see people talking about it?

Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
You know, I love how conflicted the Swifties have to
be because on one hand, Tata is marrying Kelsey. On
the other hand, Kelsey is doing American eagle spots. Does
that mean by the transit of property they have to
take back everything they said because of Ata? That's how

(01:15:42):
it works. I think they just got fucked by algebra.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
Wella, this is also the same mindset of people driving
a Tesla that has a bumper sticker. Now it says, yes,
I know I hate him too when I hate myself
for driving his car or something to that effect.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
Fucking trade it in, go get yourself affward. They didn't
work for the.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
Mean I've seen celebrities selling their testa.

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
Yeah, well, celebrity is a strong word. Cheryl Crow.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
When was the last time she did anything? Well, we
know work, so therefore celebrity. I guess that's that's.

Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
What it's like. Hey, my neighbor's selling their tesla. Really
so's uh so's Cheryl Crow? Yeah that's my neighbor. Oh
my god, how cool.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
Not really, she's in the h o A. We don't
like her. Yeah, yeah, well let's bring another one at her.
We talked about how.

Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
Oh yeah, we gotta talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
Yeah, honey, Cheryl Crow's out there measuring our mailbox again.
So Howard Stern was having some issues over the summer
with Serious. His contract was up. Looked like they were
cutting him loose. But now Sirius comes out to say,
not so fast. In the course, so Fashion Football tie

(01:17:05):
it back in. Basically, it's contract negotiation time. What it
all comes down to, because what I love about this
is how many times the Serious executives keep saying kind
of the same thing without saying it, which is, you know,

(01:17:26):
they always they say the proper thing. We don't want
him to leave. We want him at Serious. He's part
of it, he's been here twenty years. But they also say,
as long as the deal makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
Yes, which one hundred million a year no longer makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
That's what they say repeatedly in this coverage. It's just
it's as long as we get a number that makes sense,
basically means this pay cut.

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
See here. Okay, here's my take on all that, aside
from when Howard Stern is just being a general jackass
on his show Jackass, just when he's a real life jackass,
which is kind of a distinguishable from a show. But
when's the last time you heard about him? I mean,
has he had a guest on that said anything outrageous
that just became viral? As you know, I.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
Mean, I never hit the interview with Biden except no.

Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
He did an interview for Biden.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
Okay, semantics, but.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
Biden was there.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
It took place, how about that? But then it wasn't
you know, a rapturous coverage of the interview either was like,
holy crap. Did he had to pull job over? The
finish line on that one? Pretty much?

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
It's I mean, if Chris Chris Hayes wasn't gushing about it,
how good was it?

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
You know? It was maybe do a whiskey sip on
that one.

Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
But I never hear him. I never hear anybody I
ironically talk about start.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
Keyword right there, because anytime I do hear him talk,
it was like, oh man, that crank is out there again.
Oh man, he has lost his mind with COVID. Holy crap,
is this guy yelling at clouds again?

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
And did I see this right, seventy years.

Speaker 3 (01:19:22):
Old, seventy one.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
Yeah, whoa dude, Yeah, it might be times.

Speaker 3 (01:19:29):
He's really he's really aged into the angry lesbian look.
Quite means, get that man of super.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
One hundred million a year he's been making sunset time. Dude,
right off, get a golf cart and buy a bulk
of three m masks and have a back team spray
or attached to both sides of the golf cart while
you're driving around and life is good. Dude, man, just you.

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
Know, just have you have your golf course, make a
lake of purel that you can drive through.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
You could probably have it an alcohol pond behind your condo. Yes,
drive up in your Polaris and just take a dip.
You'll be fine. I mean, one hundred million a years
at seventy one, Yeah, it's time. I'd cut out, play
Mike Show and repeat and give me royalties and I'm

(01:20:26):
happy done.

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
So this really didn't make sense to me to either
it say. He can get almost anybody on the air.
He's the only person I've ever seen to be on
Hannity at night in the view in the morning.

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
Well that happened, No, there, that wasn't. Howard they're talking
about I was gonna get no, that's Stephen A. Smith.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
They were mentioning, Oh oh shit, Okay, we're.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
Talking about bringing him on the air, which means they
are already looking for either a replacement or somewhere else
to go. And it's kind of like, I think this
is part of the negotiation too, Like, Listen, I.

Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
Had a replacement with Amos and Andy and they just
shit all over that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
So I think what they're saying is, Listen, we got
Stephen A. Smith in the wings here, so if Howard
doesn't sign for thirty mili, we're gonna kick it over
to Steve and then be fine with it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
Yeah, yeah, Okay, Steven Smith isn't that far. I mean
he can at least intelligently talk about sports while he's
gas fighting America.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
Yeah. I mean, he's He's what they want. He's a
kind of a fire brand without maybe Howard's upper strata controversies,
but he does anger enough people and he's a person
of color you have to go there, and I think
he's a draw. I think it'll be a good move

(01:21:51):
for what they need. I'm not saying a fan or not, but.

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
It's kind of funny this brought it up, and every
now and then I'll throw a lot of weird questions
at GPT just to you know, what ifs. And my
what if was, uh, what if Howard had gotten the
Andrew Dice Clay treatment from MTV for fart man because
they they were both you know, they both did basically

(01:22:18):
the same thing. You know, they both did explicitly what
they were told not to do. And so what if
they had given him the same treatment and they said
he probably wouldn't have made it a serious He probably
would have retired twenty years ago m hm pretty much.
He still had all the stations and all the momentum,
but there would have been that, you know, hanging over

(01:22:39):
You know, it's because at the time, you know, MTV
drove the culture. So if you're banned from MTV, I mean,
look what it did a DICE's career. So r you know,
it wouldn't have been as traumatic, but he wouldn't have
gotten he wouldn't have gotten a serious contract.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
No. But also I think Howard he was in that
uncancellable level because he had already been so outrageous anyway,
So right, but if he offended a couple executives over here.
It's like, have you heard his stuff? This is team
well yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
Part part of the discussion was actually, you know, it
came to the fact that because he's on the CBS
network and CBS was making the Howard Stern movie. Yoh,
so that's probably why he was protected and didn't get
the Dice treatment, right.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
And he actually put out a movie that was wildly successful,
unlike Andrew Dice. Clay.

Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
Oh, come on, the Adventures of foreign Ford Family is
fucking magic. What are you talking about? You of all
people should appreciate that masterpiece.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
Well, I do, which means it wasn't a masterpiece so
much as it was Yeah, it's in my wheelhouse that
you tell you something right there? So yeah, I think
that also insulated Howard a bit with you know, Monster
book publishing, Monster movie box office. Do you want to

(01:24:07):
really get rid of this stuff over fart man, No, No,
let him go have his thing, Jeff.

Speaker 3 (01:24:11):
Are you serious that's a wig?

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
Yes? Yes, it is?

Speaker 3 (01:24:17):
Okay, then no, I have not seen Howard Stern without
the wig. I imagine he looks a lot like Howie Mendel.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
I don't think I want to see him without a wig.

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
Just a dildo with ears. It looked like a front
man from uh Midnight.

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
Oil, like something that should be thrown on the court
of a WNBA game.

Speaker 3 (01:24:43):
Well tread carried on longer?

Speaker 2 (01:24:46):
Well, they put up nets and put it into that
sons of bitches, Wow, cranky broadsbying buzzkills. Who to funk it? Yeah,
well we're closing out here, but I want to get
one more hitch, just because it again touches on our
constant apprecience here on the program where we guide Hollywood
on what to do and then low and behold, they

(01:25:08):
end up doing it at some point in time with
the defunding of public television and by extension PBS and NPR.
We were discussing it first the fact that one of
the main arguments being tossed out there was always a misnomber,
and that is they're killing Big Bird. No, Big Bird

(01:25:29):
hasn't been at PBS for a decade, so right. But
what we also have been saying is go to commercial route.
You can have the exact same product and monetize it
properly without soaking the taxpayers. They do it already with
Sesame Street as far as license products and things of

(01:25:51):
this nature publishing, you name it. They're out there pouring
their characters around because most of them don't have agents,
and there you go gravy. So we said, just go
out there in a marketplace and do it. Well, turns
out Sesame Street is doing it. Not only do they
have a new contract with Netflix in which brand new

(01:26:11):
programming will appear there and then concurrent to share.

Speaker 3 (01:26:15):
That would be the one thing I didn't know about
the Netflix deal, and I'm sure this just has to
do with server storage, is that they don't have the
full library. They have a rotating library of the new
content plus ninety old episodes, right.

Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
And this is because Sesame Street stretches back nearly fifty years.

Speaker 3 (01:26:41):
So yeah, I know that's I mean, of course they're
not going to have fifty years of content that would
be on the top ten of our Nielsen ratings every week. True,
because what would that be? Twenty six times fifty thousand episodes?
No more than that ten thousand episodes, Jeff, do the math.
I'm thinking ten thousand. It's not Sunday sorry, okay, fuck,

(01:27:02):
that's only on Sundays here, hang on, let me fire.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
Up the Come on, ray man, you can pump this out.

Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
Now, keep going while I bring it, I can't find
my calculator.

Speaker 2 (01:27:15):
Well to augment what we've been directing them to do,
They've done it, and a new deal has been struck
with Sesame Street and YouTube, and lo and behold, bulk
of their past product will be available for watching on
that platform. How about that? You mean Big Bird isn't dead,

(01:27:38):
but appearing in more places.

Speaker 3 (01:27:42):
Yeah, that's thirteen.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
Not bad. But I mean this is exactly what we've
been guiding on this very path. It's like, listen for
all the insistence that, oh, everybody relies on PBS, nobody
watching the networks. Fewer people watch PBS. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
The only wayson anybody would be watching PBS is if
they had an NFL match on during the week two.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
So I'm sorry, but no, there you go. And now
you're on Netflix, Now you're on YouTube. The kids can
watch it whenever they want to as well. It doesn't
have to be scheduled programming. How convenient and available? Huh?
All right, well, well you got to wrap up here
because I do got to clear the office.

Speaker 3 (01:28:31):
But did you see this bit about Coco Mellen in
that story?

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
I saw it mentioned and it's like highly watched on YouTube,
five billion views. I saw it once and I so
I needed to see.

Speaker 3 (01:28:50):
Of course, see it every week in the top ten
Nielsen's when we do them.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
I'm not just I'm not the target audience, That's all
I'm saying. So, yeah, but I did want to touch
on the Nielsen streaming numbers briefly.

Speaker 3 (01:29:02):
As soon as I closed all my tabs because I
thought we were wrapping it up.

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
No, I got it out. I can walk it through it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:08):
I'm just giving me just second the go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
I was not shocked by this, but maybe the uh
maybe the amount original programming the new season on Wednesday
not a surprise. But what hit me was the number
three point seven billion minutes watch. Just huge number for
that right there. And with new episodes on the horizon

(01:29:36):
of King of the Hill, the rewatchers have arrived to
put that at number two from Hulu one point two
billion Hunting Wives. This is getting a lot of traction
over at Netflix.

Speaker 3 (01:29:46):
Yeah, basically tied with King of the Hill. And that's
with eight episodes versus two hundred and sixty eight episodes.

Speaker 2 (01:29:54):
Yeah, apparently the ladies want to see a bunch of
Randy women hanging out in a hunting lodge and doing
randy stuff. Yeah, this is kind of like, uh, it's
got a fifty shades feel to it, pretty much like
all the women in our circles. Have you seen honey Wives?
Let oh you have to see Hunting Wife. They're saying

(01:30:14):
this to my wife, not me, so right, taking our
advice hunt for good idea, looking to see if there's
anything else that leaps off of that Love Island of course,
the Sandmon neighbors.

Speaker 3 (01:30:30):
Yeah, Paw Patrol. Paw Patrol was that Apparently it's not
racist anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:30:34):
Or we're not against the cops any longer.

Speaker 3 (01:30:38):
Yeah, we're not against cops anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:30:40):
I love that aspect of it. Wow. Uh, let's see
to pick up happy Gomore is still kind of lingering
for free lance. Okay, freelance hit That thing bombed in theaters? Yeah,
what's up with that? Like nobody went to go see
that and it was like hot as hell when it
came out. But that's kind of the way things work.

(01:31:02):
But overall, of course, Wednesday took it King of the Hill,
Hunting Wives, and then K Pop Demon Hunters on Netflix.
Blueie hits the top five, so them was crossing Paul
Patrols run. Brad Gray's okay, all the old stuff, all right,
that's gonna wrap it for this one. Then, so we
got we had content. We told the entire show well

(01:31:22):
done by finally that we didn't. We thought we were light.

Speaker 3 (01:31:25):
We had extra content we didn't even get the chance
to touch.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
On exactly there's stuff on the back burner and simmering away.
So we'll see if we can reduce that to quality
and bring it next time around. If we have to
already sauce out of it, exactly, it'll be. It'll be finally.
So let everybody know where can they get more of
your content?

Speaker 3 (01:31:47):
Well, thank you for asking, Brad. You can find me
as Ordon's packard on Twitter. Surprising Still I know nobody's
more surprise than me.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
Still fucking with me.

Speaker 3 (01:31:55):
Now you can find me Saturday night on Juxtaposition with
Rick as we take our deep dive into the sinking
of the Titanic or did it? And then that's where
you can find me on Manorama and uh Rick and Orty.
How about you, brib Where can people find more of
your magnificence?

Speaker 2 (01:32:14):
Well, if you want to read me, I'm on a
daily basis at townhall dot com with my media column
called Riff from the Headlines, also regular on the front
page of Red State, and you could hear me as
well there. I've got my twice weekly podcast called Liable Sources,
going deeper into the face of the press and getting
in their mug. And you can hear more of me
here on this k LRN network. Next Thursday, it's going

(01:32:37):
to be me and Paul Young guiding you through the
blackness of Hollywood and bad movies on Disasters in the making.
And every Tuesday evening I'm here with the ever Afforvist
and Aggie Reekin on the Cocktail Lounge, bringing alternative news, entertainment, relaxation, drinks, sports,
diversions from the harshness of our political and social landscape.

(01:32:59):
And if you need more of me than that, let's
face that you do, head over to Shit or I
am at Martini Shark. All right, already, we did it.
We brought it over the line, and uh, we've got
to toss some stuff aside over to transoms.

Speaker 3 (01:33:11):
So we we done got it done, my friend.

Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
We did well. All right. We will be back in
two weeks bringing you more of the vital entertainment, business
news and info here on the culture shift hel hydra