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A group discusses a heroic act by Big Balls, who defends a woman during a carjacking, sparking a conversation about crime and safety in DC. The debate includes whether juveniles should face adult charges and critiques cultural trends. The discussion shifts to World War II, nuclear power, dog training incidents, and the complexities of government actions, including the McVeigh trial and public perceptions of justice.


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Daily Mojo podcast. Justice your Mojo. You
are about to participate in a great adventure. Now the
age what sixty? He's just going to break back radio
with an attitude. This system that we love is broken.

(00:23):
I know that, dude, not comply. Welcome to another two
hours of common sense.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
That liberty and justice for all is a mysoretic behavior.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
I want to, you can't, and when you do, you wish
you did.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
This is your Daily Mojo.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
The nation needed a hero. He stepped up. We have.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
An even better version of the hero that we already had.
His name is Edward Kornstein. He's only nineteen. The boy
does he have big balls? And is big balls. He
was assaulted, apparently, and according to news reports early Sunday
by a group of teenagers in the nation's capital. Now

(01:08):
here's where the story gets interesting. They tried to carjack
him and what did big balls who apparently was with
a babe at the time. We don't have images of
the babe, at least that not that I'm aware of,
but he was with a babe. He looks like he's twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
He does.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
I know he's ninety, but he looks like he's twelve
and he's with a babe in DC. A group of
teenagers tries to carjack Big Balls, which takes Big Balls?
I do say so myself. And what does Big Balls do?
Protects the babe by putting her in the car, shut
in the door, and then takes on the attacking mob.

(01:52):
Good for him. It almost feels like a culture shift.
Almost two fifteen year olds have been arrested in connection
with the attempt in carjacking and the beating. We do
not know how badly Big Balls was beaten. There's a
picture of it, you know, confusing him with Jonathan Knight,
are you I don't know. There was a picture of
him sitting on the ground beaten, beaten. Yeah, hold on

(02:18):
a second while I google Big Balls beaten.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Good luck with that? This cool?

Speaker 4 (02:28):
WHOA gimme just a second, because yes, actually he did
he took He took quite a wallop in there.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Didn't he did he? Uh?

Speaker 4 (02:38):
For those of you listening to the podcast, we see
the aforementioned picture of the twelve year old Big Balls
there next to the picture of him sitting on the
ground and he uh, he took a wallop in man,
he is covered in blood and uh. But apparently and
According to news reports, he in fact did protect the

(02:59):
honor of the babe with whom he was out on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Night, the du Well.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Yeah, and Trump has threatened to take control of DC.
I I don't know is there any hope for saving DC? Sadly,
but he was attacked in Logan Circle, in the Logan
Circle neighborhood of d C. There were ten, apparently of
these attackers. That's if you go on X and you

(03:34):
and you look at some of the reports of it, are.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
You sure there were ten? As you were two.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
Well, two were arrested, but there were ten, and apparently
eight of them scattered to the winds the see. Newsweek
has contacted the White House and DC Mayor Muriel Bowser's
office for comment. They have not yet responded. At least
Muriel Bowser has not the prospect. According to Newsweek, the

(04:01):
prospect of federal intervention in DC, which has operated under
the limited Home Rule since nineteen seventy three, would mark
a dramatic departure from decades of precedent under the Home
Rule Act. Who isn't familiar with the Home Rule Act
amongst us? Please, I don't even embarrass yourself by admitting
that the district maintains its own local government, but Congress

(04:24):
retains ultimate authority and can.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Overrule local laws.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
Would that include also preventing people from buckling their homeless tent.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Down to the sidewalk. I don't know if that something
sown it is due, I don't know. It might be,
it wouldn't prevent them, I don't think.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
Apparently they just don't care. The group of teenagers approached
the car, they made a comment about taking the vehicle.
That doubt, I don't think. So he pushed the woman
inside into the vehicle for safety and then turned to
confront the group. Dude several of the teenagers that attacked

(05:06):
him until officers patrolling nearby intervened. So he was taken
a beating until the cops just happened to meander by.
As the officers moved toward the group, the two teenagers
or the teenagers en mass fled on foot. The two
fifteen year olds from Maryland were later arrested on charges
of unarmed carjacking. He previously big Balls. That is held. Yeah,

(05:34):
that's going to stick with him through the rest of
his last of his life. Yep, he will be forever
known as Big Balls. Held key roles in Doggie amid
efforts to slash the federal bureaucracy and now works for
the Social Security Administration. According to Politico, what people are saying,
According again to Newsweek, if DC doesn't get its act

(05:57):
together and quickly, we will have no choice but to
take federal control all of the city and run this
city how it should be run. This is a trump
on truth. Social put criminals on notice. They're not going
to get away with it anymore, not in my city.
See he had it. Perhaps it should have been done
a long time ago, and then this incredible young man
and so many others would not have had to go
through the horrors of violent crime. It really is a

(06:19):
national embarrassment what DC is. Oh yeah, it should be
a shining example of modern capitalism. Now, come to think
of it. Sitting down on the ground and bloody, that
is kind of an example of modern capitalism, which you
get right down to it. If this continues, he said,

(06:41):
I am going to exert my powers and federalize the city.
He called for a change in the laws of the
juveniles who attack Coristine could be charged as adults. It's funny,
how and you'll hear all sorts of arguments from the
other side, says his child, they're just children, And yet
they also said those same people, well they're just children.
We should let them vote their children when it's convenient

(07:04):
for them to be children, but you know, when it
comes time to use them of their adults.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
Marco Ls, who is another Dogie staffer, wrote on actually
Chorstine was a hero. He added, I took this photo
after Edward protected a young woman from an attempted carjacking
by eight thugs. So was that picture taken by Marco Ls,
a buddy of big Balls?

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Could Ben could have been? I know what?

Speaker 4 (07:34):
Were there other uh Dogie staffers in the air? Was
this say, Doggie get together like a Dogie reunion. We
don't know what they were doing in DC. Now the
question is the big balls get some loving I'm betting
after the events of the evening and after protecting his babe,

(07:56):
watch it turn out to be his sister.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah, did you get some love in that night? Dude?
That was my sister?

Speaker 4 (08:05):
All right, Well, did you get some love in that night?
Love is love, babe. Marjorie Taylor Green said, not only
does Edward Corstein patriotically work to cut our government of
waste fraud. Debusy is also a hero for sacrificing his
o safety to defend a helpless woman. We need more
men like Edward korstein Man. Between Big Balls and Sidney Sweeney,

(08:27):
we are getting the true definitions of men and women
in this country, are we not? It sounds like it
Sidney Sweeney is driving them crazy, although they won't admit
that she's driving them crazy. And some people who should
really just what are the words? Sit this one out?

Speaker 1 (08:51):
The hey guys said, when you.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
H here we go, Rachel Bitkofer, have you ever heard
of her? Or excuse me, bite Kofer or bet a
Coofer or bit a Coffer. She retweeted David Pacman on
the X, who said, is anyone on the left actually
upset about Sidney Sweeney? I couldn't care less and haven't

(09:15):
met a single person who does another manufactured scandal, to
which Rachel bitakoeper quote tweeted him and said, no one
on the left even knows there's an issue. It is
all rage porn on Maga Twitter. Did American Eagle did
make American Eagle a ton of money for no reason?

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Though?

Speaker 4 (09:35):
And then the conversation continues below. Joe says, I'm not
sure who Sidney is, and Rachel Bitakoepher says, she's a
butterface who looks great in jeans, butterface, to which I think,
therefore I meme or therefore I am. Brother said, I

(09:56):
think you should sit this one out. And when we
saw the picture of Rachel bit a Coffer, We're like, yeah,
you should probably sit this one out. Yeah, there's uh,
there's Rachel Bitakoffer calling Sidney Sweeney a butterface. Okay, you
should probably sit this one out. Is it the is

(10:18):
this other the picture of her down somebody? And I
don't know who it would have been? Oh is that
her time?

Speaker 6 (10:26):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Lord? No, no, no, yeah wait a second, is this
what's she's saying? Call myself?

Speaker 6 (10:34):
But that would m Sidney Sweeney has good jeep really
like the eugenics in that it's dripping with it.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
And I'm like, no, tell me you're at illiterate TWITP
Without telling me you're an illiterate twit.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
I mean, I thought, you know, it was disgusting. I
think it's it's.

Speaker 7 (11:00):
Just showing what kind of country we're turning into, because
it's white supremacy.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
At the end of the day.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
That's what right, That is white supremacy, that that is representing.

Speaker 6 (11:09):
I didn't see it, but I have heard quite a
bit about it and the oh.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
What does her shirt say? Like it eat live Live
list eat trash. Yeah, I don't know what that strangely appropriate.

Speaker 6 (11:30):
Saying that it's slighted towards like eugenics and comparing the
blue jeans to blue jeans blue blood, white hair eye
or not white hair, but like blonde hair, blue eyes,
and there's been a lot of comparison to that. I
think it's absolutely unacceptable.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
Right Again, kudos to American Eagle who absolutely knew what
they were doing when they put this out there and
did it.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Stock went up.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
Yeah, well he did it intentionally and they it was
talk about a genius plan. It was fabulous. If you'd
like to weigh in on this or any of the
other topics this morning on the Daily Mojo or throughout
the well through throughout the day. Forget it, you've missed it,
but you can get up early tomorrow. If you're listening

(12:23):
to this later in the day, use the hashtag what
I learned today over on the social media's Let's see
was it Florida man in Alabama?

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Was uh?

Speaker 4 (12:32):
Was Brad Googling beaten Big Balls? Or was Lindsey Graham? Hey, y'all,
don't threaten me with a good time on a Saturday night?

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Rogue twelve? Too many groids in DC?

Speaker 6 (12:46):
Now?

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Did I explain groids? Now? Is that rogue twelve? Are you?

Speaker 4 (12:52):
Are you quoting me on groids?

Speaker 1 (12:55):
I don't know what a groid is.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
I've explained to you obviously, just don't remember. Royd's was
a great license plate that a friend of mine had
on his What was that, uh challenger note it was
a javelin. It was a javelin and the license plate
vehicle it was amaze balls. Groids is get rid of

(13:25):
inadequate suckers? Oh okay and so, But the state of
California at the time is like, ah, fine, they didn't
because they didn't know what groids was. That's the beauty
of it. They tried, you know, you get these license
We've seen the stories about you. So and so got
a license plate and it was offensive to whomever pick your.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Look trying to figure out what TTZ seven seven seven
five is.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
And yet you liked the tweet. I did like it.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Only because it was a Jeffy tweet. Couldn't figure out
what it is. I figured out the first part. I think,
well that's all that mattered. Oh okay, all right, Well
I didn't know if the seven seven seven five had
something significant to it either.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
What what significance do you want it to have?

Speaker 1 (14:13):
I don't know, dude, I just thought it was I
thought it was, don't be exasperated. Whoa cats here? Was uh?
Cats here? Hello? Thank you? Thank you for He's like, hey,
are you doing a show? I just want to check
are you doing a show?

Speaker 4 (14:31):
Good to see you too. Wasn't uh hi, thanks for
thanks for calling, thanks for being here. There's his butthole? Okay,
s yea bye bye. That's funny, cats am I right.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Now.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
The important part of that license plate was, of course,
the first three letters.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Oh, okay, gotcha t T t's TT's.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
Who didn't wan like the T t's am?

Speaker 1 (15:00):
I right?

Speaker 4 (15:01):
Maybe this maybe the last four uh digits were the
number of people who knows too? His t's okay. Dark
Magneto said it winked at you. I thought I noticed something,
and maybe it was a birthday. You're right, seven seven
seventy five. Sometimes We don't have to. You don't have
to be spoon fed everything you can. You can be creative.

(15:23):
You can see things. It's paradolia. It's looking in the
clouds and seeing a giraffe. It could have been it's what.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
It could have been the summer that she developed the ttzs.
You know what, I'm sure right?

Speaker 4 (15:39):
Okay, well creepy, but sure absolutely cat's back. Uh see,
has the in turn not fed the cat yet? James
and Louisiana says that's absolutely generally.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Speaking, if a cat is did you want? Did you
want that? Is that what you're looking for? Sure? You
know you just go ahead, It's all good. We'll just
we'll work things around you.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
How are things going over to Mojo Laser Pros speaking
out going?

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Well, just so kind of an announcement that I didn't
make last week, I'll go ahead and make it now
because apparently it's going to happen. We decided to get
rental space or lease space for the company, and so
I'll be moving all of my lasers and everything over

(16:33):
to that space probably in the next couple of weeks.
So thanks are.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
Going so you will not have to have people showing
up at the front door of your room.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
That's correct, That's correct. I mean, and look, we've been
fortunate over the last four years. No one's shown up
at a bomb well right, I mean, the only person
that ever showed up to the house that wasn't supposed
to be here was a listener from a different show.
And it's scared the hell out of everybody. But anyhow

(17:04):
that you shouldn't, that's a whole different story. But no,
we I mean, we've been fortunate, but I mean I
do have family members here that are young and old,
and I don't particularly care to have people showing up
at the house. So yeah, we we. We leased a
space for Mojo laser pros and all of that stuff
will be moving over in the next couple of weeks.
And I am considering, because I did this before, I'm

(17:28):
considering putting another twenty four to seven camera in there
that kind of shows the different workspaces and the lasers.
Do you remember when I did that before? Yeah, yeah,
lasershop live dot com. I still have that domain, so
I think I'm gonna put that back up maybe that way.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
That way, if someone's going to break in, they will
know exactly when there's no one there.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
That's correct. That's good. I think that's a. That's a.
Then they've got to get to the security system and
the cameras, so yeah, they're going to break in the code.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
The security says him as seven seven seventy five tzz. Yeah, No,
everything's going okay. Over there, we still have our no
solicting signs. You still haven't sent me a copy of
yours so I can duplicate it. That's true, I haven't. Yeah,
you're right. I was waiting for you to recognize that

(18:20):
I hadn't done it, and then I would do it. Oh,
I get that done.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
What was the what's the first one over there that said,
don't make it awkward.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
Yeah, well, don't make it weird. Don't knock, don't ring
the doorbell, don't make it weird.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
And we can personalize like that one right there can
be personalized at the bottom where it'sy his family, friends, deliveries,
always welcome. We can personalize there hot babes always welcome.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
You know, he is bound and determined. Yeah, he is
bound and he's going to there was Yes, there will be.
It's like it's like having a teenager who is okay,
that's a good, good boy.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
I think the dog. The next product on the on
the list coming up, it will be metal house numbers
or acrylic house numbers. Yeah, that we're going to be
putting up. So it's just various things that we found
and uh, we're just gonna start throwing some stuff out there.
Uh you see that we do still have, seeing what

(19:25):
sticks we do still have?

Speaker 4 (19:28):
Uh, the cat did, but it scrolled, it scrolled the screen.
Now I saw that. Yeah, I didn't do it. That
was the cat.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
So apparently the cat wants to push the Grinch. Yeah,
and the twenty twenty five Christmas ornaments are in process too,
so those will be available. Grief, it's not even Halloween yet. Man,
probably around uh September is when we'll start putting those out.
Those typicals them designed, Yeah, one one of them. I've

(19:55):
got the regular one, not the Insider Club one yet.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
So Doc Magneto says that that's okay.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Ron.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
We wouldn't show up at your house without an invitation.
We're kind like that.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
And if you have an invitation, you're always welcome, right,
but hot babes always welcome.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
Yeah, there's no pants, no pants required, James and Louisiana
says she's kicking her on out of the garage. Now,
you'll have to leave the house at three am to
go run a few parts in the middle of the night.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
That's a good that's a good point. You've got to
get out of jail free card. Is that what they're
calling I got to run into the shop.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
It's two in the morning. Yeah, well it's you know,
things break down at the weirdest times.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
And ironically I do work out there late at night sometimes,
uh huh. And I don't know what I'm gonna do
about that. Mister asked me if I was gonna what
shop hours I was going to keep, and I said
probably ten to six. But then then am I going
to work on Saturdays? Well I can't. I've got something
else going on, So we'll see how that works. She's

(20:58):
looking forward to the quiet, probably actually be so quiet here.
It's a nice and peaceful Yeah, that's what it is.
It's it's okay, you can come make noise down in
my room anytime you want to. She's looking forward to
me being able to pay the least amount every month.
That's what she's wanting. That's what it boils women to,

(21:18):
Is it just me? Women are all about money. That's
all they're interested in, just money, money, and they want
us for our bodies.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
I feel so used. Hey the cat's back, he does.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
One thing you can you know, if it could learn
from from cats, it's never give up, never surrender. Okay,
I don't know what you want. You've got food, Go sit,
go caase a rabbit, which I oh, good story about
a rabbit. We'll cover that in a second.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
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Speaker 4 (21:55):
So it's not TTZ seven seven seven correct. Okay, so
it's completely different. So Mojo five. Oh, and you get
some money off you make, you make Misty happy and
you keep her on out of the doghouse, which you
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Speaker 1 (22:16):
Oh yeah, it's brass attitude es days here.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Let the fly expands up.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Put your feet on lock the daily Mojo.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
It is the sixth day of August, the year of
our Lord, twenty twenty five, and it is uh it's
an anniversary. Uh, it's a sixtieth anniversary today of the
anniversary of the bombing of that is the first nuclear
bomb we dropped on the Japanese after the events of

(23:06):
Pearl Harbor, I had no idea that they are still
searching for the remains of some of the victims of
real Roshima. There's an island. It's called Ninashima and it

(23:27):
is just off It's four kilometers two and a half
miles from Hiroshima. From Hiroshima Port. It takes about a
half an hour to get to Ninashima from wharf four.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
It is about.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
A mile and a half mile of one point forty
nine square miles in size, cats back and Mount aki
No Kofuji is the mountain that sits at the center
of it. But this is where they took a lot
of the people who were affected by the blast of

(24:01):
the bomb. And so this is a story put out
by the Associated Press about some of the people out
there still looking for these victims, I guess is the
best word for them. But when they were taken to
this island with radiation poisoning in or sickness or burns

(24:21):
or whatever, and there were so many coming in that
the when they would die, and a lot of them
died on the trip there. They would have to bury
them just basically dig a hole, put the bodies in,
covered over, and so now they're trying to dig the
remains up and give them a proper burial. But here's
some background on it.

Speaker 8 (24:40):
Eighty years on from the destination of the first atomic
bomb over Hiroshima, echoes of the devastation are still being uncovered.
Researchers are still searching for the remains of many of
the dead and injured who were brought to the coastal
island of Ninoshima in the aftermath of the blast.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
The more it's net.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
Eight years past, as fellow human beings, we first you
bring out the remaining lights, he says, And I know
I said sixty right now, it's just soil covering. It's
get there. They should be placed respectfully in an urn
and later rest. And then lest we all come together

(25:23):
put our hands and there's to honor them. I believe
for these individuals, the war is still truly.

Speaker 8 (25:27):
The reburial also serves another purpose, offering solace to those
who survived the blast by laying those who didn't to
rest to state sins.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Have you seen the images of.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
Like the shadows burned into the sidewalk, the.

Speaker 8 (25:57):
Walls, and killed tens of thousands near the high percenter
about ten kilometers north of Ninushima. The death told by
the end of that year was one hundred and forty thousand.
The remains of three thousand people have been found on Ninushima,
but it's thought that thousands more are still missing.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
Oh my, lit that amazing. I had no idea. Wow again,
it's a but was it necessary?

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Was it worth?

Speaker 4 (26:28):
I mean, was it worth the price in human life?

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Ah? It's I don't know. I mean, is it ever
worth the price of human life? But it changed everything, honestly.
And those weren't shadows, by the way, they were the outlined.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
Yeah, the people, Yeah, burned into the into the side,
and they looked like shadows, they did, But they were
people burned into either the sidewalk or the or the
sides of buildings. But you know, if at first it
was a response to Pearl Heart, it was now there's
questions now as to whether or not we knew about

(27:08):
the attack before the attack, whether or not, Uh, there
would have been a chance to stop it. And we
all know that war is good for business. Knowing now
what we know?

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Again? Who was it? I was? Was I talking to
you yesterday? Uh?

Speaker 4 (27:30):
And we were discussing the fact that pretty much everything
we've ever been taught now everything, Oh, I know what
it was. I was reading a post on on X
and the guy was saying, everything, I feel like everything
I was ever taught, from the time I was born
to now, it's been a lie. And yeah, it feels
like every damn farm has ever been taught.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Has been manipulated in some way, heavily manipulated. I remember
what we were told to do if we ever saw
the flash of a nuclear bomb and duck and cover
what I mean, what a c And if in fact,
we did know about the imminent attack on Pearl Harbor

(28:07):
prior to the attack, would it? I mean, if we
had launched a counter attack and taken out the zeros
prior to that, would I mean, who knows how the
world would have changed? Who knows how the world would
have been different at this point in time. We just
we don't know. It could be the man in the

(28:27):
High Castle. True.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
The thing about Nagasaki was the second target. Nagasaki was
actually not the original.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
It was not the original location.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
The original location was obscured by cloud cover and it
was Kokura. Kokua was because one of the questions that
a lot of people have asked is why why we
bombed such an area that wasn't a military target. It

(29:05):
was heavy obviously heavy civilian casualties.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
And again.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
We've talked about this before, the craziness of the quote
unquote rules of war. You can't attack a military hospital ship,
which logic would dictate, attack the damn thing, blow them
out of the water, and you have fewer people that
you have to worry about attacking you. But no, no, no,
we've got to be gentlemen about the way we go

(29:31):
about killing, which us when THEEVA just crazy?

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Is that? Because that's what dictates that right now? Forty
seven Geneva Convention was I just stabbed in the dark.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
Nineteen forty nine, nineteen forty nine Geneva Conventions and their
additional protocols protect people.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Let's se hold on a second. But I mean, here's
the thing. Did we give any notice to any of
those or to either of those two cities before we
dropped those bombs? In other words, where we were we
allowing quote unquote civilians to evacuate the area. First, I
don't think so, I don't think so. Yeah, how would
we have I mean, I guess you'd drop pamphlets, I guess.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
But Kolkura was the place that had manufacturing facilities. Uh
Mitsubishi excuse me, uh Nagasaki was where Mitsubishi factories were.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
And I was like, wow, what we hate televisions, but
Mitsubishi back then made manufacturer the Zero fighters.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Oh the planes, I know, right.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
And now we I mean, look what we did get
out of World War two and and and and taken out.
We took out of Japan. We crippled Japan, beat the
shit out of Japan, and then rebuilt Japan. Yeah, and
and now they give us toyotas and mid TB sh televisions, which,
by the way, do you know plasma TVs no longer exist?

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Uh no, no, I didn't either.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
Yeah, they stopped making plasma.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
TV and leads.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
Now, yep, I had because the first big screen TV
I think that I had was a plasma. But they
remember how heavy they were, I mean compared to the
old crps.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah, it was like lifting up. It was a fifty
five inch but it was like a console.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
But it was Oh it sitting on the great Yeah. Yeah,
well heavy, uh and we're pussy, so we want light
TVs now. Anyway, So Nagasaki was a backup target because
it contained these two large Mittabhi factories. It was a
major port city, and uh, like the other targets hadn't
been seriously bombed. The other thing they wanted to do

(31:56):
when they dropped these bombs was see what they would
see what the damage was going to, because we had
no idea what dropping a nuclear bomb on a city
would do.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, and these were airburs bombs, which means they detonated
above ground, which made it worse.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
Yeah, because it covered more area. Hiroshima was the headquarters
of the Second Army that commanded the defense of Southern Japan.
It was also a major port and key communication center.
It contained a troop assembly area, of military supply storage areas,
and industrial targets.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Think about I.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
Mean, when you look at Japan on a map, it's tiny. Yeah,
talk about big balls for Japan to take on the
United States.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
I mean, well, they knew they could where they were
going when they were coming to Pearl Harbor because it's
number one is out in the middle of the ocean.
It was a relative small area, but they thought that
they could take it right and they they put a
whooping on us, no doubt. But the thing is what
they weren't going to come to them.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
That's like running up and trying to slap, you know,
the big guy, and then running away. You're going to
the big guy is going to eventually come after you.
So what were they thinking balls, No doubt. What were
they thinking? Did they not think the United States would
come out? It really defies logic when you stop and

(33:34):
think about it.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
In case of the ass.

Speaker 4 (33:39):
Let's see, in addition, because it had not been heavily
bombed compared to the other major cities in Japan, the
effects of the bomb could be determined. So because there
wasn't as much damage as some of the other places,
you are determined.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah, I don't know for what. But he is determined
because he has food. I don't he says food, He
has water? What is it? Boy? Is Timmy in the well?
Timmy fell down the well.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
They wanted again to find out what the bomb could
or would do to people and and buildings. The original idea,
apparently long before the United States even had a bomb,
was to drop it on a fleet in port, kind
of like what Japan did at Pearl Harbor.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Only had only one of our bombs would have handled.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
It, right right, Yeah, we wouldn't. Yeah, it would have
been and it was what Bikinia Toll is that where they.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Loaded the bomb in. I don't remember that. Marshall Islands.
I want to say that. That's seriously not I don't, dude,
until you start speaking English, I have. That's uh, that's

(35:05):
that's nuclear. That's where they were testing them nuclear tests, right, Okay,
so Marshall Island.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
Yeah, and and you know where they loaded the bombs
onto the aircraft to fly to Naugasaki in Hiroshima Roswell.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Really, yeah, that's where the that's the m HM or
used to be there the double check my facts. Uh
but yeah, the I stand by uh.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
Uh at well they excuse me. They were loaded to
Tenian Island. But the bombing, the the the bombers were based.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Uh in Roswell, Roswell Army Airfield. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Yeah, uh so you had the Aola Gay and what
was the other one called.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
That's what I was looking for. The Aola Gay dropped
the bomb on Hiroshima, but it was a weather reconnaissance
aircraft on for the Nagasaki drop. I don't, it doesn't
say it was a little boy. Was the name of
the targeted don't? Yeah, the bomb on Hiroshima, the first bomb,

(36:26):
and then what was the other one? Little boy? Little
boy and it's cat. Uh do we have a name
for the other one. I'm looking box box scar sometimes
called oh no, sorry, Yeah, he dropped the fat Man

(36:51):
little boy in fat Man. I thought that was a
TV show. No fat Man, box box scar b O
c K S c are boxcar.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
James and Louisia San Louisiana says we were friends with
China back then, right, I mean, did the whole everything
was different?

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Yeah, yeah, because we wouldn't have even got close to
Japan had we not been able to right the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
I mean it's again, countries have no permanent friends, just
permanent interests.

Speaker 6 (37:27):
Not.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
My dog says, we're still issuing purple hearts today that
were made then in preparation to a land invasion of Japan.
Fat Man, fat Man, little boy, fat Man was the bomb,
box car was the plane?

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Yep, it's.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
I mean, the whole thing is just it's crazy to
think about. Obviously, that was a when when when news
spread of what the atomic bomb had done, h.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Oops did.

Speaker 4 (38:06):
No, he went, he went, he went to jump and missed.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Oops.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
What when you think about what was done and and
you know, because of the the tie into UFOs is
that when it was discovered by the other inhabitants of
our galaxy, of our universe whatever, that we had these
bombs and we were dropping these bombs, that's when the
UFOs went, hey, hold on, time out. I don't you know,

(38:35):
I don't know if that's true or not that that's
what caused them to decide to especially fly through Roswell.
But it's it's crazy when you think about the the
the power of those of those bombs and.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Which is minace going compared to what could happen now?

Speaker 4 (38:56):
Oh, absolutely absolutely and and Oppenheimer, Yeah, imagine the the
mindscrew knowing that the technology that the the thing that
was your brain child, the technology that you helped developed,

(39:16):
was used to just wipe out thousands and thousands and
thousands and thousands of people. Yeah, I mean that has
to Is he in heaven or hell?

Speaker 1 (39:28):
It depends on whether he made amends to his maker,
which is.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
Kind of which is kind of crazy when you think
about it, right, I mean, I know what I did.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Was but I accept Jesus Christ as my lord and.

Speaker 4 (39:39):
Say, okay, fine, come on in. Yeah, the whole thing
is just it's it's wacky. Eighty years ago this happened.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Have we learned. Have we learned anything in that time?
I'd like to believe that we have.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
I'd like to believe that we would not, you know,
drop a But again, war is crazy, and we again
still have these the crazy Geneva Convention rules that make
you it is.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
It's scary to think that you I mean, we could
be at the whim of someone who just gets a
case of the ass and says, I don't like the
way you're looking at me. I'll just wipe you off
the face of the earth. Some people say Donald Trump's
done that, said that could do that.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
I don't know. I don't see Trump doing that either.
I see Trump as the polar opposite of that. I
don't think he wants to.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
He doesn't like war, he doesn't want it no, and
he doesn't like other countries warring. Obviously, No. I mean,
it was the passion he had for is it Israel
and ran Yeah, was Iran, wasn't it. Yeah, he had two.
What he says of these they don't know what the

(41:02):
f they're doing. I mean it's crazy.

Speaker 4 (41:06):
He's really I don't think he you know, which is
the irony of everyone calling him on the left, calling
him hitler and a Nazi and a it a dictator.
I think he's the polar opposite of that. Does he
have an ego? Yeah, but is he out there wanting
to kill people?

Speaker 3 (41:21):
No?

Speaker 4 (41:21):
I don't think he is. Well, he said I could
stand in the middle of Park Avenue and kill somebody.
I'd still that's a that's a it's not a metaphor,
but it's a Is it an anecdote? Yeah, it's a
crazy I mean he's saying not that he wants to
kill somebody, he's saying that if he could, or if
he did that, he would still get it. He probably would.

(41:43):
But does he want to kill people?

Speaker 1 (41:45):
I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
It just it shows how crazy pretty much everything is.
While abat Mommy says nuclear energy is not evil. I agree.
It's what we do with that knowledge and power that
can make it evil. And that's the problem. When we
were talking with Rob Mayne on Friday last Friday about
nuclear power. It's the best option, but it's it's it
has a bad final option.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Well that makes it sound a little ominous, doesn't it though,
But that but you have to think of it that way.
If you don't think of it that way, people just
be dropping bombs every day because somebody piste them off.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
No, no, no, I'm saying nuclear power for a power power plant.
Yeah yeah, no, that's but see that's where nuclear, the
word nuclear freaks people.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Out, which because something's so good could be so bad.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
I like women, Am I right?

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Am I right? Yeah? You're okay? Answer?

Speaker 4 (42:48):
Why would I I know I'm right. I have the
conface that comes from knowing that I'm right.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
It's okay. You don't You don't have to tell me.
You know I'm right. They're they're beautiful though, how look here,
don't fulfilled to save it.

Speaker 5 (43:02):
This is Phil Bell on the Daily Mojo with you
on porn ampsters. Have you heard of the Corporation for
Public Broadcasting. Well, chances are, at the very least during
the past few days you have. That's because it was
defunded in a recisions package by Congress and President Trump
last week and announced that it would be closing its
doors in early twenty twenty six. Now, when this news

(43:23):
came out, as you can probably guess, I was very happy,
But there were a lot of people who were sad.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
They thought that.

Speaker 5 (43:29):
Meant their favorite NPR and PBS programming was going away.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
There was going to be no more antiques roadshow. What
would they do?

Speaker 5 (43:38):
But you know what's really interesting, The Corporation for Public
Broadcasting doesn't actually do any broadcasting. They don't make radio shows,
they don't make TV shows, they don't make podcasts. You
know what they do. They take money from Congress and
they hand it to NPR and PBS. And you know
what's kind of interesting. Congress itself is really good at

(44:02):
taking money and handing it to other people. It doesn't
really need an intermediary. But here's the thing. The Corporation
for Public Broadcasting actually showed how ineffective it was when
the majority of Americans did not appear to understand what
it did in the first place. So kudos to President
Trump and to Congress for getting read of this unnecessary appendage,

(44:24):
but also for exposing a reality about public broadcasting. The
truth is, it's not all that public. You and I
can't just roll into PBS and NPR and say broadcast me.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
That's what you do on YouTube and rumble.

Speaker 5 (44:38):
And we in the United States, thanks to private sector innovation,
now have the ability to share more of our ideas
in more ways.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Than we ever could before.

Speaker 5 (44:49):
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Speaker 2 (45:24):
Bill Bell's morning Update is only on the Daily Mojo Dot.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
The top of the hour. On the way for a
blast truth from.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
The Stupidity is not a competition.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
So you don't shoot deer with a bullet that size.
If you do, you could cook it at the same time.
Unless you're a politician, get the news from Ron.

Speaker 4 (46:23):
It's so correction. They did Ron, as you asked earlier
in the program, did we drop leaflets?

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Did we won the population in Japan?

Speaker 4 (46:41):
Yes, we did.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
We dropped leaflets in.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
The weeks and months prior to that is one of them.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
These were carried by B twenty nine's.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
They were dropped across Japan and uh and they basically
warned now the translation was, if the war continues, the
result will be the destruction of the homeland of Japan.
This is an obvious fact if the war continued. The
longer the war continues, the greater will be the work

(47:16):
in reconstructing the nation after the war, and nation's resources
will be forever impoverished. It's an easy matter to sacrifice
one's life for the nation, but true loyalty is to
put an end to the war and to work toward
reconstructing the nation.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Oh damn, I thought it said get the f out.
I was pretty sure that character it was f out.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
Now they're trying to get him to surrender. They're trying
to get the population to say we give because where
are you gonna go?

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
Wade Robertson said, heybrid you should open some more tabs.
Oh you think the ones over there?

Speaker 1 (47:58):
Yeah, Brad, that some tabs though, But.

Speaker 4 (48:00):
You think that's a lot. Oh that's nothing. That's amateur
hour over on that screen. At Uh, I think it's not.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Most people have that many tabs open on a given
I don't know it. It makes me crazy to have
that many tabs open. I don't know why.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
Huh No, it's a sign of working hard. That's what
that is. Speaking of death uh in uh tennessee the
uh execution of what was his name? Uh, mister black

(48:42):
was his Uh. I'm just call him mister black. Interestingly enough,
in the first two paragraphs they do not say the
man's name. Isn't that crazy? We'll just call him black.
This man was a convicted of the nineteen eighty eight

(49:03):
murder of both his girlfriend and her two daughters. Angela
Clay was her name. She was twenty nine, her two daughters,
LaToya were nine and Lakeisha was six. He was in
a jealous rage when he shot the three at their home.
At the time, he was on work release while serving
time for shooting his girlfriend's estranged husband. So this guy

(49:28):
was finally put to death.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Last week. Bayron Black was his name, which is really
weird that there is not it is. His name is
not in.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
The first two areas of this story. Just Black. Here's
the deal with what happened. He was they used lethal
injection in Tennessee. This happened yesterday, and he had a
defibrillator implanted in his chest, concerned that if they didn't

(50:01):
disconnect it, it might cause unnecessary painful shocks trying to
revive as the drugs were administered. Yeah, it's like, wait
a second, I'm trying to keep you alive and it
I mean again, I used to be, you know, very
pro death penalty, and in this case, if the guy

(50:24):
was convicted, if there was a if there was proof
that he did commit these crimes, I get it. But
I don't trust the system anymore. And so I don't
trust the people running the system, and I don't trust
that what we get is the truth. So it's hard
for me to believe or advocate for the death penalty

(50:48):
if I don't trust the system, I think that would
be hypocrisy. But in this guy's case, I don't have
any sympathy. I mean, did he was he considering the
pain that he victims went through, and yet we are
to consider the pain that he may or may not

(51:09):
have been in. He died at ten forty three am.
According to prison officials, it was about ten minutes after
the execution started, after they injected the whatever drug that
they shot into the tube in his arm, that he
started to talk about being in pain. He was asked
if they had any last words, No, sir, he replied.

(51:30):
He looked around the room as the execution started, lifting
his head off the gurney multiple times. He could be
heard sighing and breathing heavily. All seven media witnesses to
the execution agreed he appeared to be in discomfort. Does
that make be cold?

Speaker 1 (51:47):
For not?

Speaker 4 (51:50):
Not really okay? Throughout the executed This goes back to
the rules of war. If you if we're going, we've
got to kill somebody, but we have to be humane
in doing so. I mean, he is a firing squad humane.
Is there any humane way aside from.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Go look at the flowers? I mean the flowers. Care
of the defibrillator, right.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
Uh, I don't know, or would it have shorted it out?

Speaker 1 (52:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
Throughout the execution, though, he spiritual advisor prayed and sang
over black, at one point touching his face. Then he said, oh,
it's hurting so bad. As he lay with his hands
and chest were strained on the gurney, a sheet covering
up past his lower half, the ivy in his arm.
The advisor said, I'm so sorry. Just listen to my voice.
He was executed after a back and forth in court

(52:46):
after a back and forth in court over whether officials
would need to turn off his implantable cardio cardioverter defibrillator
or ICD. He was sixty nine years old. He was
in a wheelchair. He suffered from dementia, from brain damage,
from kidney failure, congestive heart failure, and other conditions. According

(53:07):
to his attorneys, that would that would be the Again,
it's a tough call because this guy's apparently did some
heinous things in taking these other lives. But if he
suffers from dementia at this point, it's but then is
he faking the dementia? Yeah, Oh, he would never do that. Now,

(53:32):
he's just a murderer. He's not a liar. I mean,
it's a it's a conundrum. His family is now going
through the same thing we went through. Thirty seven years ago,
according to This is his Girlfriend, that he killed his

(53:53):
girlfriend's sister, Lynette Bell. He said, I can't say I'm
sorry because we never got an apology. So the guy
I mean, I'm not sure how much an apology would
have meant. Today, the State of Tennessee killed a kind, gentle, fragile,
intellectually disabled man in violation of the laws of our

(54:15):
country because simply because they could. According to attorney Kelly Henry,
it was back in mid July that a trial court
judge agreed with Black's attorney that officials must have the
defibrillator deactivated to avert the risk that it could cause
unnecessary pain and prolong the execution. But the Supreme Court
of Tennessee overturned that decision last Thursday, saying the other

(54:37):
judge lacked authority to order the change. The state disputed
the lethal injection could cause his defibrillator to shock him
and said he would not feel them regardless.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Human beings are strange things.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
Yeah, Doc Magneto says his dementia is cured now. Indeed,
Florida Man in Alabama, if Doc Kitty keeps it up,
he's going to be said to the Denmark Zoo.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Do you hear that one of your brothers or sister
is is awfully hungry? You know what?

Speaker 4 (55:11):
I bet it is there's something he has brought, something
he's brought a gift.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Is it in that room? Or I don't just trying
to get you to go get the gift. That's a
good question. Soon now I did this, I assume that
Bethy not's okay and he's not trying to get you
to go check on her. As she felt on the well,
she can get out. Wow, what.

Speaker 4 (55:37):
You don't believe in empowering women? I say, here, you
are poof, You're empowered. Get out on the well. You
know I noticed yesterday or the day before that he
what it was Saturdy Friday or Saturday night. I was
asleep and I thought I had a dream that I

(55:59):
heard a rabbit squeal.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
You know, you hear something you set up you.

Speaker 4 (56:06):
I must have dreamt that. I realized yesterday I no,
I didn't dream it.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
You're not. I realized I didn't dream it because I
discovered the rabbit. The fact that you find random rabbits
and was it? Do you find mice or rats?

Speaker 4 (56:24):
Are you kidding? It's good lord, you name it what.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
It's nice to.

Speaker 4 (56:30):
I mean, it's it's their way of saying, hey here,
thank you?

Speaker 1 (56:35):
Is it? Is it? Okay? Okay? Not gonna do it.

Speaker 4 (56:44):
You know what though, in a when the apocalypse hits
and you're hungry, how many how many meals your dog
is going to bring? Yes, the cat will bring you food.
Now it may be irradiated food. Mom bat moment says,
what's that dog, kitty?

Speaker 1 (57:04):
Timmy?

Speaker 4 (57:04):
Timmy's in a gang and dealing drugs exactly, I'm dealing
with my mom having it now. It's very very consumer
Oh yeah, dementia. But you know, going down the execution
road with and you're right, missy thirteen dog katies, like

(57:25):
this show's done, it's done. Just stop it, Like, why
are you even fighting me? They don't give up. They
do not give up.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Cats. You can learn a lot from cats.

Speaker 4 (57:35):
Number one, never turn your back on them. And number two,
they never ever ever give up. But the the the
dementia thing, when it comes to executions, how do you
I don't even know how you begin to deal with that?

Speaker 1 (57:55):
What what do you want? Speak English? At least he's
not in there mewing real loud.

Speaker 4 (58:05):
Well he knows to be quiet when the red light's on.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
But it doesn't matter how many times you put him down. Nope,
he just pops rot back up. It's like a yo yo, dude,
he is like a spring.

Speaker 4 (58:18):
He hits the ground, he's right back up, and even
the insect repellent doesn't get rid of him. You know
why it doesn't. Yeah, I realize why the insect repellent
doesn't because it has catnip in it. Oh, the insect
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This is the exception to the rule.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
The soap is all natural and it works like a
champ the bar soap. I love it.

Speaker 4 (59:20):
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Speaker 1 (59:39):
What did she what would it?

Speaker 4 (59:41):
Was something in soap, wasn't it that she had to
come up with basically a hypoallergenic alternative for her child.
And the things we do for our kids, this is
gonna be at this point. See, I can't give up now.

(01:00:02):
I have to. I have to assert my authority over
the humans.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
First. I will win this. You realize that, right, I
will win. But she had.

Speaker 4 (01:00:14):
Valorie had to come up with a way to keep
he's stocking me, to keep her daughter from suffering the
effects of this allergy. I think it was the soap,
and she had to learn how to make soap. She
had to learn how to make all of these different products.
Is someone running a counter on how many times this happens?

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
That was done? Fifteen.

Speaker 4 (01:00:40):
But when she did, she decided, you know what, if
I'm going to do this, I'm going to I'm going
to I'm going to put my skills to good work.
And she opened the doors to Sugar Creek Goods and
the rest is history. Did Valerie want to learn how
to make there was this something that she dreamt her
whole life of doing.

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if you wouldn't eat it, don't spray it on your skin.
Not that I'm suggesting you should, you know, do shots
of insect repellent. But it does smell good.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Boy. It's that time of year though. I mean, you
go outside, the nats, the mosquitos all us.

Speaker 4 (01:01:38):
Yeah, hate those little things. Smells like cedar. Would There's
nothing like the smell of ceedar wood.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
In the mouth of cedar. Yeah, the smell of wood
in the morning.

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I knew Altsia Koubeba once.

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Yeah he had chunk too. Let me just tell you
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Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
All right, who had the over under on another green dildo?
Because there's been yet another.

Speaker 4 (01:03:14):
One, another sex toy landing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
On the w NBA floor.

Speaker 4 (01:03:21):
This time he had landed close to the feet of
the Indiana Fever Sophie Cunningham, who had oddly enough been
on a podcast during which she had told her mom
she was or I guess her mom had warned her
to be careful. That that'd be kind of an odd

(01:03:41):
warning to get from your mom, wouldn't it. Don't step
on the deal dough right, honey, honey, be careful there.
If there's a sex toy you don't want to, don't.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
Get let it twist your ankle. Yeah. Right.

Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
And so anyway, even though, hang on a second, I
have to feed the cat a tree.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
He keeps coming, keeps coming back because you keep feeding him. No,
that's the way cats work. Nope, no, no, no, no,
Hold on a minute. That's a good deal. Stay stay,

(01:04:30):
How does that work out for you? Stay? So far
he's staying. That's your amazing yay.

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
Sit, I like he's sitting to stay.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Shit, shit stay. Yeah, this is see.

Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
I've taught him some tricks, don't you act.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
Like I've taught him not to jump on the damn desk.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
Now, we're working on that one. We're working on that one.
And then what they do is they start like he's
looking at foot right now and He's like, I'm not
even thinking about jumping over there. And then he waits
till you drop your guard and then he attacks you
and bites your throat, and you know, then the neighbors
find you in a pool of your own blood, and

(01:05:13):
you become a news story. He's one of the maids
is trying to coax him out.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Now. It's the damnest thing.

Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
I'm telling you that he's brought a dead body. He's
telling you, he's telling me something, but I don't know
what it is because he won't speak English. Anyway, where
were we? Oh yeah, Dildo's Sophie Cunningham almost got hit
by one of these and or I actually did get hit.
And this was after her mom warned her about sex
toys and the danger of sex toys on the court

(01:05:48):
at the NBA. It was the final minutes of the
second quarter.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
It was.

Speaker 4 (01:05:56):
The third instance of a green sex toy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
I mean, and how do you I mean, if you're
going to toss that out there, the people around you,
right have to have to all agree that they're not
gonna say anything about it, right.

Speaker 4 (01:06:11):
That's my thing is like if you're back there, because
you've got to get back and waal on it, right.
I mean you've got to toss.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
It with pretty well those words, but yeah, you got
you know, whatever it takes.

Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
Uh. Look, there was a dude yesterday. Let me see
if I can find him real quick of those teties
who brought up a great point.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Shoot.

Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
Maybe I didn't retweet it, but he was. He was
laying the odds down for uh, how you could shoot you.
Oh yeah, there are likes for how you could make
some money on this sex toy thing by by placing

(01:06:56):
a bet. There are now odds makers who are giving
odds on what color or the next toy will be.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
And is this it? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, here it is.
Hang on a second, and.

Speaker 7 (01:07:10):
No, this is in oath. Period a blue dial for
fourteen dollars on Amazon is your quickest way of financial freedom.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
And no, this is in oath, I promise.

Speaker 7 (01:07:19):
In the last few days, we've had two different instances
of these dells being thrown onto the WNBA court, And
because everyone's degenerate sports gamblers, they started putting odds on
the next color of the dill right, and it's got
me thinking I could buy a seat close enough to
actually throw this device for only two hundred and twenty
four dollars and thirty five cents. Right, I can also

(01:07:42):
bet five thousand dollars on blue for the next color
at plus fourteen hundred, which pays out seventy thousand dollars.
I then can have every single one of my friends
also put five thousand dollars on the color blue, so
they each make seventy thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
And I'll just take a little cut.

Speaker 7 (01:07:58):
For a two hundred and twenty five dollars ticket fifteen
dollars in silicon purchases a thirty to maybe forty dollars
uber and a few hours of your time, I guess.
Also the five thousand dollar wager by you and all
of your friends. Also maybe maybe you're probably gonna go
to Joe for a night or two. Right, you do
have to take some fines, probably banned from the WNBA,

(01:08:20):
A lot of negatives here, but you would walk away
with seventy thousand dollars, and.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
So with all of your friends.

Speaker 7 (01:08:26):
So for seventy thousand dollars, would you buy?

Speaker 4 (01:08:29):
Does he not have a great point?

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Oh, he's got a great point. I mean, there's there
is enough. I mean, obviously, but and obviously the word.
It's weird. Where all this cat here come from?

Speaker 4 (01:08:41):
So strange? Another reason not to have a cat. But
is it worth it? I mean, you get banned from
the WNBA. Let's say you've got a ban for life
from going to the WNBA and their games, so big,
I'm already never I'm already facing ana WNBA band for

(01:09:03):
life because I don't ever plan to go to a
WNBA game.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
Do you know?

Speaker 4 (01:09:09):
Absolutely so, you've already effectively self banned. Correct, So that's
not an issue. A couple of nights in jail, amateur,
who hasn't done that? Hell, I've spent two nights in
La County jail. I can handle just about anything. Seventy grand,
I mean, the worst part is suffering the humiliation of

(01:09:29):
having a green sex toy or blue one delivered to
your place of residence. And well, in Ron's case, he's
had that diaman. It's a daily occurrence, it's a day
ending and why so that's not really a big deal.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
It's distinct packaging.

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
Dude, Seriously, well don't you go for the option where
you Why do you hate the environment so much?

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
You can get a discent packaging.

Speaker 4 (01:09:53):
No, but I'm saying that if you just get in
an the original box and just having slap a label
on it will know what you're doing. Come on, who
hasn't had a sex toy sent to their home? But
he without stones cast the first sin? Am I right,
Dark Magneto, Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
You're you're your cat hair is making me it it's
and it's like a It's like a spiderweb because you
can't see them. All you do is feel them, and they're.

Speaker 4 (01:10:24):
The dildo has a point too, according to Dark, I'm
not sure what that means. Something that the nb w
n b A desperately. This is more attention than the
w n b A has had since Kaitlyn H. Clark.
I was about to say, Kitlyn Collins, she's on CNN. Who

(01:10:44):
who would be like a seven if you didn't open
her mouth? Caitlyn Collins, Caitlyn Collins. But she opens her
mouth and sucks the points way off the board. And
this he thirteen says, never you go shopping. It takes
balls for a woman to say that, does it not?

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:11:07):
Isn't it ironic? A bunch of dyke's like to play
with balls?

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
Are they?

Speaker 4 (01:11:14):
Although they are not all lesbians?

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
No, I don't even know.

Speaker 4 (01:11:18):
I don't even know. After looking at some of these,
I don't even sure the majority of them are anymore.
I don't know when that transition happened. But I don't
think Sophie Cunningham is a lesbian. She doesn't appear to
be a lesbian.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
Clark is either.

Speaker 4 (01:11:33):
Now she has a boyfriend, Angel Reese, who I did
not realize was a rookie as well. She may or
may not be, but it's they're just very you know
what it is. It's men are intimidated by tall women,
so she's gonna be a lesbian, That's what it is.
That's it's the fragile male ego. Do you like tall women?

(01:11:56):
Run I like all sizes of women, Bradley, I don't
like tall women. I mean, well, I like tall women,
but I just don't like me.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
Don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:12:12):
Now, because the women are a lot like cats. You
need to find one that is smaller than you so
that it's manageable, because otherwise you get a woman who's
larger than you, who's taller, the bigger. That's no, you
are inviting trouble into your home. When that happens, you
find you find a a smaller specimen of the species

(01:12:34):
and you make them your pet. That's valuable advice. So
whether or not this is going to stop the trend
of sex toys being thrown onto the court at W
I don't. I don't see this stopping anytime soon, especially
when it gets so much airtime. And but I'm with you,

(01:12:55):
how how do people that are next to these people
throwing these onto the And I agree it's dangerous because
it's it's like throwing ball bearings down there on the court.
But how do the people get away with doing this
when there are people standing all around you when you're
lobbying West.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
It's going to make them put a camera on every
part of the audience camera.

Speaker 4 (01:13:16):
You don't think their camera's there now?

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
I mean, I guess there are. They could find out
who threw it.

Speaker 4 (01:13:23):
Well, they they did arrest the dude who did the
first one. Oh and and and hang on a second
there I forgot.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
We have.

Speaker 4 (01:13:35):
We have video of a press conference during which they
were asked about these sex toys being thrown?

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
Are you serious? Okay? Stand by one moment, may need
a little music, thank you. I don't know what it
is lately.

Speaker 4 (01:14:05):
I have to well whatever reason, Yeah, it's the it's
the file that says dildo reaction.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
Yes, that's what I'm looking for. Thank you. Here we go.

Speaker 4 (01:14:19):
This is the reaction at the w NBA press conference
regarding sex toys being thrown on the court for.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
Either Kelsey Irikiya.

Speaker 9 (01:14:28):
There was a moment in the second second quarter when
something was thrown onto the court.

Speaker 6 (01:14:32):
And it's not the first time it's happened at a
WA game within the last week. I guess I'm just wondering.

Speaker 4 (01:14:37):
Like chick on the check on the left, I don't
know who she is, but she is swaying to the
mus there's some music going on in her head.

Speaker 6 (01:14:44):
The reaction, What do you think about this happening across
the league?

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
I'm gonna steal that question.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
Okay, I think it's ridiculous. Thank you. It's Corny's Okay,
that was.

Speaker 4 (01:14:57):
I thought that was a weird reaction or Corny horn
How is it? Am I missing something? Or does Corny
not mean what she thinks it means or did she
mean horny? Because I just I never once thought looked
at the you know, sex toy being thrown on a
w NBA court and talked, well, that's awful.

Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
Corny, stupid. You know, we take our it's also dangerous, yes,
and agreed.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
You know player safety is number one, right, respecting the game.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
All those things. I think it's really stupid. Yeah, that's
all I'm gonna say. I thought too, we did a
great job Indiana included just playing on like don't give
it any attention.

Speaker 4 (01:15:40):
Like, don't give it any don't even look nobody look
at the green sex toy laying in the middle of
the court. Just don't give it any okay. Wade Robertson,
I thought to say, I was like, is that a dude?
Does that not look like a dude?

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
Which one well on the right.

Speaker 4 (01:16:00):
The spoke, Yeah, the one on the right. I don't
know who that is. It's the eyebrows.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:16:08):
Well, Mickey Rooney was very short. Being a confident short
man is sexy. Secure in your manhood, says Missy thirteen right,
and Jody won twenty one says she meant horny okay.
Mickey Rooney loved tall women. According to w cuncle said
that when your nose to nose, your toes are in it,
When your toes to toes, your noses in it. I

(01:16:30):
don't even know what that means.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
I'm not even going to try it. Do you know
what that means? Because I don't know what that means?
Do you do you know what? I don't know what
it means. I have no idea.

Speaker 4 (01:16:41):
Perhaps we should just move on, yase, I don't want it.
Perhaps I don't even want to think about what that
might mean. Uh, the relief that you will And maybe
this is what the WNBA needs. Maybe they need their
own supply of insensitive relief from Maybe that would make

(01:17:06):
the pain go away. It might it might help. I
have I keep this handy moments. Notice I can be
spread this on the on the shoulder, which still would
like to know. I'm obviously every pain, there's a source
of every pain in your body. You should figure out
what it is and what's causing it. I mean, be stress,

(01:17:27):
you know it could be another can do so always
make sure that you don't just try to get rid
of the symptoms. Figure out what's at the root of
your pain. But if you are going through like and
I mind is probably just stress. Now I've noticed my
hip and this works on my hip too, my hip
as since I've been running, walking, running, running, walking, It's

(01:17:52):
amazing when you start to when you start, you know, exercising,
the things that and especially when you're older, the things
that start to hurt. It's like I thought this exercise
stuff was supposed to be good for you, and then
things hurt. But that's where the maximum insensitive really from
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Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
That's a sight to see it.

Speaker 4 (01:18:44):
You ever tried to milk an emu?

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
I have not? Nope, Nope, neither has Dug.

Speaker 4 (01:18:50):
It's got Arnica two and menthol. It smells good, it is,
it works and that's the most important thing obviously. But
I've been doing this the the exercising and you know,
trying to drop the extra LB's. I was talking to
our friend David g the other day about and I
was talking to him while I was out there running

(01:19:12):
in the heat, and he's like, now, you know, when
you fat guys, you're not supposed to be running, because
when he was a seal he would I guess he
was like one of the one of the guys who
led the exercises for you, tried to get people in
shape in the Seal program. And he's like, that was
our first rule is that fat guys don't run. You

(01:19:33):
had to walk. And I said, well, I'm fine, I'm
you know, I'm aside from the torn meniscus. But once
that healed up, I was fine. But I realized I'm
running and I'm talking at the same time. That's kind
of an accomplishment. You ever tried to run and talk
at the same time.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
Run, Uh, yeah, it's difficult to do.

Speaker 4 (01:19:52):
It's difficult. But when you're like, oh, I'm running and
I'm talking and yes, I was paying attention to my
surroundings at the same time, because you want to make
sure that you do that because otherwise that doesn't end well.
But this has been my constant companion throughout throughout the
exercise regime. If you are facing the old, if you're

(01:20:15):
trying to exercise, you're trying to get in good shape,
like ron is doing like I'm doing.

Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
Ron.

Speaker 4 (01:20:20):
Are you are you out there? I do it if
you are far? Are you doing the walk yet?

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
No? No, I need to, I keep saying I need to.
I haven't started yet. I got to pick a time.
You do it right after the show when it's hot
and shit.

Speaker 4 (01:20:36):
Sometimes I don't like to do it when it's hot.
It's it's summer in Texas. It's going to be hot.
At oh, I agree. At nine in the morning, it's
going to be hot. At four in the afternoon, it
is hot at two in the morning. It's just hot.
You just have to pick a time and do it.

(01:20:56):
But I mean, we see, Ron, I don't want you
to die because then there's more work for me.

Speaker 1 (01:21:01):
I know. I don't want to die right now either.

Speaker 4 (01:21:05):
Well, especially since you've got to move the laser and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
I do have to move it, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:21:10):
Because I don't. I don't want to get the phone.
Hey can you help move?

Speaker 6 (01:21:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
Ron died, I need to help move in the laser.
I did.

Speaker 4 (01:21:18):
That's I'm selfish that way. Start walking. We got your
pain covered if you if you're in pain, we got
your you know what, I'll rub the maximum relief rub.

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
On you.

Speaker 4 (01:21:30):
All right, got a deal. Okay, now you have to
walk before. I'm not going to rub this on for free.

Speaker 1 (01:21:36):
I got you, I got you, I'm with you. Are
you enjoy Now you're trying to get Misty to walk
with me. She didn't like a walk, she didn't like water,
and she didn't like to walk. So maybe she just
didn't want to go out there walking with me. Maybe
she doesn't want to walk with me.

Speaker 4 (01:21:52):
Maybe she wishes you'd go walking a little alone time.

Speaker 1 (01:21:56):
Who knows. Oh, I didn't do that, you did, get
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Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
Stupidity is not a competition. I've now been in fifty
unless you're a politician, seven states, I think one left
to go daily.

Speaker 4 (01:22:20):
Wade Robertson says, don't do that. Just don't do that
around any trains. I know, I know, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
I'm not.

Speaker 4 (01:22:28):
There are no trains, although there's a better shot of
getting hit by a car around the motel and and
uh have because I don't know if you noticed this
or not, but drivers in Texas suck.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
They do they do.

Speaker 4 (01:22:40):
They don't watch where they're going, and it's it can be,
it can be a challenge. I mean, you could be
on the sidewalk, and they're still going to try to
get you.

Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
It really is. You see DM's post. DM posted Kelsey Plumb,
she was the one on the right there. He posted
that on he posted it was a YouTube video of
her throwing T shirts in the stands. It's quite the
awesome video. I would play it for you. I can't
find it here.

Speaker 4 (01:23:09):
You can't find it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:10):
No, I'm looking forward over here on this other computer.
Give me the second.

Speaker 4 (01:23:14):
All right, well you're looking for that. If you have
not yet taken the time to listen and or watch
Tucker's interview with Margaret Roberts about the Oklahoma City bombing,
there are things that I had absolutely no idea about

(01:23:37):
the Oklahoma City bombing. Remember Jane Jane Doe, John Doe
number two, Yes, yeah, you know, he was lost my
never found lost my video. There you go, thank you.
He was never found, really never found. They stopped looking

(01:23:58):
for the decided that John do number two.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
Yeah, that was.

Speaker 4 (01:24:02):
People are misremembering because they when Timothy McVeigh went to
the body shop to rent the rider truck. And the
reason that this is even an issue right now is
that it's thirty years ago that the Oklahoma City bombing happened.
It was in April of this year that it was
thirty year anniversary. And his execution happened six years after

(01:24:30):
the conviction, which is like record time for a conviction
and death sentence, and then carried out.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
Talk about I mean, it.

Speaker 4 (01:24:44):
Was amazing how fast all of this went. It was
amazing how fast they caught him. They caught him because
of the partial VIN number on the axle that they
found six hundred feet away from the blast site. They
traced that to a rental agency in Florida, and then
Florida say, yeah, we rended this truck to I can't
remember the pseudonym that McVeigh gave, but they traced it

(01:25:09):
to him renting it, I guess in Oklahoma City wherever
it was, Kansas City. And then when they discovered that
he had been arrested and was sitting in a jail
cell in Oklahoma, seventy five miles north of Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
City, gotten a ticket right having.

Speaker 4 (01:25:26):
Gotten a ticket for not having tags on his getaway car,
which and having a concealed weapon. He had a pistol
with him, and the whole reason he did not have
tags on the car was because he had parked the

(01:25:47):
ghetaway car in an alley close to the Federal Building,
and he had taken the tags off, so that if
somebody came along and saw this car parked in the alley,
they weren't like, hey, let's run the tag on this.
They'd have to they would have to just remain curious
about it and not have any way to really trace
it unless they get the VIN number. But so then
he gets into the getaway car, he takes off without

(01:26:10):
having a tag on it. Which does that make much sense?

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
You've just.

Speaker 4 (01:26:16):
Bombed and committed the worst active terror on American soil
in history, and you're driving a car with no tags
on it. Did you also know that Tim McVay was,
according to Tim McVay, surprised at the amount of damage done.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
To the ability.

Speaker 4 (01:26:37):
Yes, really, it's also I mean she gets into a
lot here. It's almost a two hour interview conversation with Tucker.
I did find that you can listen. I think I
was listening at one point on one point seventy five speed,
because she speaks slowly, and she has she's very deliberate

(01:27:00):
with her words, and so even at one point seventy
five you can still it's not hard to understand her.
And Uh, anyway, I thought I would dip into this
because pretty much anything after the one hour.

Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
Mark, you're gonna go WHOA that? Whoa that?

Speaker 6 (01:27:18):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:27:18):
This is And I made a note, Oh, I believe
this where she gets into the CIA, he told Uh.
McVeigh told his attorneys he was a CIA operative. Had
you heard that note before?

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
No? I had not either.

Speaker 3 (01:27:39):
That he was Blahama City bombing not as a terrorist,
but as an undercover federal operative. That he was basically
recruited during his military service in Iraq.

Speaker 1 (01:27:57):
He told the.

Speaker 3 (01:27:58):
Story slightly different, but to the death row inmate who
wrote the memoir and published this story, McVeigh said that
he was recruited into an unspecified Defense Department operation domestic

(01:28:20):
surveillance operation.

Speaker 4 (01:28:22):
De pause it right there. Had you ever heard that before? No,
I don't think I had either. I've read a lot
about the Oklahoma City bombing over the years. I know
have a friend whose mother was killed in that blast.

(01:28:44):
I had never.

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
I'd never heard that prior to.

Speaker 4 (01:28:53):
Recent history. That may be one of those things that
people here and go, yeah, right now, in light of
everything that we've all collectively learned, in the past what
ten years, When you hear that he may have been
a federal CIA operative or some other federal agency, what
is your.

Speaker 1 (01:29:11):
Thought that he could have been. I mean, because nowadays
you just don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:29:19):
It doesn't sound so crazy, does it. No, doesn't sound crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:29:23):
I had heard through the years that you know, the
that it was done intentionally, that it was an quote
unquote inside job to destroy records, that the Clintons didn't
want a public et cetera. I think we'd all heard
those stories, but I don't think i'd ever heard that

(01:29:45):
he was or that he had told other people that
he was a federal operative. I don't recall knowing that,
or I don't recall hearing that. I may have, but
I just.

Speaker 1 (01:29:57):
Don't remember as I forget stuff because I did catch
the old he gave.

Speaker 3 (01:30:03):
I interviewed three prisoners that was, you know, once I
became involved in this investigation for Jesse's Foyer case, not
the videotapes case, but a previous Foyer.

Speaker 4 (01:30:20):
When she's talking about Jesse, Jesse is the brother of
a guy who was mistaken for another guy in the
prison system, who was then beaten to death by the
CIA inside the Oklahoma City jail. But what they didn't

(01:30:43):
take into account, and you'll have to watch their listen
to the interview, or do your own research to get
the full story in that. But what they didn't take
into account when they beat this guy to death in
the Oklahoma City jail is that his brother was a
determined attorney who was not going to let that shit

(01:31:04):
go by unanswered and really has has held their heads
to the fire, as he should. But they the guy
that they beat to death inside the jail bore a
remarkable resemblance to John Doe number two, the guy that

(01:31:29):
was reportedly with Tim McVeigh when he rented the rider truck.
Tim McVeigh ended up being John Doe number one. The
other guy, John Doe number two, who again, they just
decided at one point, yeah, we're not even and the FBI,
we're not even gonna That was just people misremembering, Yeah

(01:31:49):
he doesn't even really, don't even shut up, John, what
are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:31:52):
You're crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:31:54):
By the way, there's videotape of see is that the
actual bombing itself or the red that there's videotape that
they have that they've sat on all these years.

Speaker 1 (01:32:09):
They still have their video of the actual bombing.

Speaker 4 (01:32:13):
That well, she she talks about the video of and
I can.

Speaker 1 (01:32:19):
I'm gonna speak out of turn.

Speaker 4 (01:32:21):
Not that it matters because they do it all the time,
but it's either video of the bombing or video of
when they were into the truck. And they've never let
anyone see the video. Why kind of like the the
videotape of January sixth, why can't we just see all
the video?

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:32:42):
Ed Tucker brings up an excellent point. The reason we
can't see the video is because it is evidence of
federal employees and or operatives breaking the law. That's why
we cannot see the tape. That's why we can't see
the tape.

Speaker 3 (01:32:58):
Chuck interviewed David Hammer, Terry Nichols, and Peter Langan, who
is the co leader of the Aryan Republican Army. So,
but back to what mcveigh's told. He told the death
row inmate that he was undercover for an unspecified Defense

(01:33:22):
Department operation. He told Terry Nichols. This is what Nichols
told Jesse and me on in Supermacs. He told us
that Timothy McVeigh let slip that he was undercover for

(01:33:43):
the FBI. He told his sister that he had been
recruited for He had been recruited during that tryout for
the Special Operations. Essentially, that scenario would be he didn't

(01:34:06):
wash out of Special Operations. He basically joined this new unit.

Speaker 4 (01:34:13):
That was the other part of Tim mcbay's stories that
you know, he was Special Forces. Then he wanted to
get into this elite group either within the military law enforcement,
and then he did. He didn't have the the the
con used to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:31):
He didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:34:32):
He kind of washed out of the program. That was
the story. But apparently in reality he had the he
had the skill set, and he was take which makes sense, right,
you're gonna if you become part of an elite unit somewhere,
then I go, yeah, well, Tim McVay was good for him.

(01:34:52):
He's got this whole special set of skills and so
now he's part of our secret group. The cover story
would be, yeah, he even washed out and he went crazy
and he started doing crazy stuff because that's easier to
sell to the and then people go, that's great, what's
for lunch? And then the next news story comes along,

(01:35:14):
and when was he uh do you remember when he
was executed?

Speaker 1 (01:35:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:35:27):
June eleventh, two thousand and one, July August what happens
ninety days later?

Speaker 1 (01:35:35):
Right? It was nine decade three? What when?

Speaker 6 (01:35:41):
Did?

Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
When? Was the Oklahoma City Bottom ninety five?

Speaker 4 (01:35:43):
Ninety five?

Speaker 1 (01:35:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:35:44):
Okay, yeah, no he was. He was executed six years later,
which is like lightning speed warp speed for at execution.
I mean, look at the dude in Tennessee Black Byron
Black nineteen ninety eight. Ecuse me, nineteen eighty eight, ninety eight,
two thousand and eight, twenty eighteen thirty what seven years later?

(01:36:08):
As opposed to Tim Mcvaghe was six years later. And
I don't know what the average is. Maybe maybe the
average weight between conviction and sentencing and execution is short. Oh,
let's find out what's the average time between a death sentence, conviction.

Speaker 1 (01:36:33):
And execution? Right, I guess that'd be the.

Speaker 4 (01:36:41):
Average time according to the groc or excuse me, according
to whatever Google's version of AI is, the average time
between the death sentence, conviction and execution in the United
States has been steadily increasing and currently sits around nineteen
point four years. According to the Death Penalty Information Center,
which if you've not been to their Christmas party. Let

(01:37:03):
me just tell you it is kicking the ass. In
twenty twenty one, the average time was two hundred and
thirty three months, or nineteen point four years. This is
a significant increase from nineteen ninety when the average was
ninety five months. Soteen, So what was the u in

(01:37:27):
in nineteen ninety five? Grins In nineteen ninety five, the
average time between the death sentence, conviction and execution in
the United States was eleven years and two months. So
still lightning fast even, I mean even you can't understand that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:48):
Trying to stand that it can take a while because
of you know, he appeals.

Speaker 4 (01:37:54):
Right, he didn't want to appeal. He didn't want any
of that stuff. Pled guilty. What's let's gett it go,
which I'll just throw this out there. If you know
that you're not going to get executed, if you know
you are not going to die, if you know that
you are just going to get out of jail free
and be off along your mirror way, you would want
that time period sped up, would you not. You don't

(01:38:16):
want to wait nineteen years to get out, You want
the hell out. Is he alive? I wouldn't surprise me
if he was. I've thought for a long time that
he may still be walking the planet. Of course, the
first rule of assassination is what ron, I don't know? Yeah,

(01:38:42):
you do, Come on, first rule of assassination is kill
the assassin. Why would that be the first rule, Because
you want to say you want anybody who has any
evidence or who can roll on you gone. So if

(01:39:03):
you are behind the plot of an assassination, you get
the assassin to do the dirty work, the wet work.

Speaker 1 (01:39:07):
As it were.

Speaker 4 (01:39:08):
Then you get rid of the assassin, so there's nobody
to connect you.

Speaker 1 (01:39:10):
I might have answered that correctly if you had said,
what's the first thing you do after someone assassinates somebody else?
You kill the assassin. The first rule of assassination is
don't injure them, kill them. You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:39:26):
Nice try, But no, you're not wiggling out of this one.

Speaker 1 (01:39:28):
No, no, I mean, I had no idea what the
first rule was. But okay, kill the assassin, Lee Harvey Oswald.

Speaker 4 (01:39:38):
Let's see. Let's just see what ay I said. Just
for Grin's first rule of assassination is a fictional concept,
not a real world principle or law. It's often associated
with fictional stories and movies, particularly in the context of
espionage or organized crime. There is no universally recognized or
codified first rule.

Speaker 1 (01:39:58):
In the real world.

Speaker 4 (01:39:59):
When it comes to assassination, the term is used to
suggest a principle of secrecy, planning, and execution that might
be followed by fictional assassination. Well, it's like a woman
so many words and didn't say anything, did it? Here
we go first rule of assassination on the Star Trek

(01:40:22):
message board. The first rule of assassination, kill the assassin.

Speaker 1 (01:40:27):
You had to go to star Trek to get that answer.

Speaker 4 (01:40:29):
I see everything I learned in life comes from Star Trek.
Where's yours come from?

Speaker 3 (01:40:41):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:40:41):
Huh oh, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:40:42):
I arrest my case Margaret. However, she still had some
other things to say. And I'm telling you this is
if you haven't watched this whole thing, it is, it's
pretty amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:41:00):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:41:00):
And we'll continue with Margaret and Tucker and Ron and
Doc Kitty and me next. On the Daily Mojo, aw
Ray all Brady.

Speaker 1 (01:41:19):
Monday.

Speaker 4 (01:41:19):
HiT's like a free train, eyes half open, brains and pain.

Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
But there they.

Speaker 5 (01:41:26):
Are Brad and Ron again.

Speaker 7 (01:41:32):
Rash shop words that cut through fog, rock trip, silverism, dialog.

Speaker 5 (01:41:38):
Still somehow.

Speaker 1 (01:41:41):
They're the perfect car.

Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
The daily gets me right and laughing, morning light, rat
fog of flame.

Speaker 1 (01:41:55):
Together, they're a runaway trains, aren't we?

Speaker 4 (01:42:00):
Don't we are your runaway train?

Speaker 6 (01:42:07):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:42:07):
Ew and Guru says you could be Obama's cook? Do
you serve up one bad meal?

Speaker 1 (01:42:12):
And nooks he down?

Speaker 4 (01:42:15):
Missy thirteen says, usually it drags on with appeals out executions,
with all the live judges. I'm surprised we have any
executions in this country. I mean, could you do you
support the death penalty?

Speaker 1 (01:42:29):
Still? I did? Did you? Ever? No?

Speaker 2 (01:42:31):
I do?

Speaker 1 (01:42:33):
But I want all of the appeals. I want all
of that done and if I used to, if after
all of that there's still this. So you trust the system,
then no, I can't say I trust the system wholly.
But an eye for an eye is still a thing
for me.

Speaker 4 (01:42:54):
Right, But if you don't trust the system, how can
you trust the system to actually come to the correct conclusion.
That's just that's that's me. I just if I don't
trust the system, I find.

Speaker 1 (01:43:05):
It no matter how bad the crime was.

Speaker 4 (01:43:11):
If no, no, And I'm like the Byron Black, I yeah,
I don't have any sympathy for him at whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (01:43:18):
Coberg, I don't trust the system. Coburger went through the
system and and I.

Speaker 4 (01:43:25):
Do you trust that the findings of what they can't I?
He said, he there's something wrong with that case. He
understand that he played out of the death penalty. Do
you think there's something hinky about that case? I think
there's something hinky about it. Yes, I mean too. And
I don't know what it is, but there we ever know?

(01:43:46):
Probably no, probably not, But that doubt right, there is
enough for me to go. Could I, in good conscience
be the guy who pushes the button who in Jack's
I couldn't because I don't. There's just enough doubt in

(01:44:06):
me in the system now that I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:44:09):
But that's just me.

Speaker 3 (01:44:12):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:44:13):
Margaret Roberts again, who I.

Speaker 1 (01:44:14):
Think she was with the Wall was at the Wall
Street Journal. That doesn't sound right. She was what was
her thing?

Speaker 4 (01:44:23):
Margaret Roberts prize winning investigative journalist and television producers. She
graduated from Northwestern University or in a master's degree. She's
author of The Blow of Blowback, The Untold Hold On
a Second Uh, The Untold Story of the FBI in
the Oklahoma City bombing. I thought she worked at a AH.

(01:44:48):
This was as managing editor of the Chicago of Chicago
Lawyer newspaper, So Chicago Lawyer Newspaper. In the nineteen eighties,
she conducted a death row investigation that led to the
exoneration of an innocent man. The story one Chicago's Jacob
Schuur and Sticko Type Sticko Type Awards. Newsweek cited its

(01:45:12):
searing effect on public opinion and policy, and she was
also a top editor at the National Journal and Congressional
Quarterly before moving into television as news director of America's
Most Wanted.

Speaker 1 (01:45:26):
I did not know that.

Speaker 4 (01:45:28):
So she's got some bon right, did you?

Speaker 1 (01:45:34):
So you were? I wasn't the only one looking at
her bona FIDE's just saying so. Anyway, in her conversation
with Tucker, uh, you know what she says here, But
we'll just dive right back into her.

Speaker 3 (01:45:49):
But he he told her that he was going to
be doing domestic operations. And as a matter of fact,
in nineteen ninety eight, the New York Times Times published
that letter, not with much context. But yes, McVeigh made
these claims after his trial never mentioned the met trial,

(01:46:16):
never never mentioned trial. No, it's a speculation. But what
why would what would tim Timothy mcvay's motive be for,
you know, carrying out this terror attack at the behest
of the Feds. Their motive would be a little bit clearer,
which would be like prove that there really is a

(01:46:37):
domestic terror threat from hight right wingers, something they've been
working on for a long time.

Speaker 9 (01:46:44):
But what would his motive be in stings quiet about that?
Why wouldn't he say, yeah, I was part of this
at trial and like, I'm not going to you know,
I'm not going down for this.

Speaker 1 (01:46:55):
I was asked to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:46:57):
Well, one excellent might be that he became radicalized during
just like a lot of people during Ruby Ridge Waco.
You know that he was he was at the at
the point of this operation, deeply conflicted over what it

(01:47:20):
was he was doing.

Speaker 9 (01:47:22):
To add one more source, No, that's fair. It radicalizes
me hearing about it. You got to be honest.

Speaker 1 (01:47:27):
It does.

Speaker 4 (01:47:28):
Well Again, that's another good point. You read and hear
about events like Ruby Ridge, like Waco, and if that
doesn't shake your faith and belief in the system, I
don't know what would. Waco was just a giant fuster cluck.

(01:47:54):
I mean, it was horrendous, wasn't that Janet Reno? Yeah,
and then they tried to squirrel out of it. But
that was the Feds going in there. Why the hell
did there after what was his name, Koresh who was
a freak, don't get me wrong, But and and.

Speaker 1 (01:48:15):
Were they.

Speaker 4 (01:48:17):
Abusing kids in there? I don't know. I was one
of the things. They got kids, and that they are
abusing the kids. Why didn't they grab him off? He
would often go into town, you know, by groceries. Why
didn't they just grab him off the street there. Why
do they have to go out there and out to
the compound and you know that then they get into

(01:48:37):
in the gunfight he fires on federal agents and they
get their you know, panties in a wad, and and
then well we saw what happened. But it just seems
to me that they could have handled that much better,
to say the least.

Speaker 1 (01:48:55):
Bob T.

Speaker 4 (01:48:55):
Garden says that Star Trek the only place where communism
worked in a fictional universe. I was a communism of socialism.
I think it was more socialism and I and I
agree it's it's it would be I would love to
live in the Star Trek universe. The problem with that
is that there's a there's a dick in real life

(01:49:19):
who's going to screw the whole thing up. E one
Hoouver said, that's why there are three buttons barred. Three
people each push a button, and no one knows which
one had the current?

Speaker 1 (01:49:30):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:49:31):
Is that the way hang on? Is that the way
the executions? I thought that there was the big little shop.
Oh yeah, the big way they call it was a
knife connector?

Speaker 1 (01:49:43):
Yeah, I mean I know that that's the Isn't that
the way like firing squads work, multiple people shooting.

Speaker 4 (01:49:49):
Except for that one in North Carolina recently, remember that
where they all had bullets and they all missed. Yeah,
it seems like a problem with the system there. But yeah,
I thought that was how it was supposed to work.
So you didn't know, so you could you.

Speaker 1 (01:50:04):
Could at least really normal that maybe it wasn't you.

Speaker 4 (01:50:08):
Yeah, except back in the day, I guess, you know,
in the in the in the olden days, whenever the
hell those were, there were people who would go from
there were the executioners who would go from county to
county or whatever and handle the wet work, which was
great work if you were like a serial killer, like man,

(01:50:28):
they're paying me to do this, This is cool. But
Evan Guru says Tim was not alive during the Ruby
Ridge I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:50:42):
Yeah, yeah he was. When did Ruby Ridge happen? I
thought that was.

Speaker 4 (01:50:51):
Yeah, Ruby Ridge happened in nineteen ninety two, so yeah, uh,
he had some connection into the branch Davidians. That's why
he was mad at Waco.

Speaker 1 (01:51:06):
I did. I don't remember hearing that.

Speaker 4 (01:51:08):
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (01:51:11):
It was Waco. Waco was in response to Yeah. But again,
this is how memories get all twisted.

Speaker 4 (01:51:24):
And turned around. I want to get a second. Let
me move forward to Margaret here, because she says something
everything shed they talk about in here should make your
blood boil. But there were just there were a number
of truth bombs that she'd and things that we've all
forgotten collectively, because again, what happened three months after mcveigh's execution.

(01:51:50):
We didn't have much time to really stop and dissect
things because three months later a little thing happened in
New York City, so kind of everything else went in
the dustbin of.

Speaker 3 (01:52:01):
History as of the bombing. And he told his first Yeah,
he told them that he had been working. This would
have been his first representation to his first lawyer trial
significant Yeah, before and before the preliminary hearing, I mean,
within hours and days of the bombing, And he told

(01:52:26):
his first lawyers that he had been a government operative.

Speaker 1 (01:52:30):
And he said that.

Speaker 3 (01:52:35):
He was shocked at the damage done by the bomb,
as if he had been there to create a demonstration
with his truck in the road, not destroy the whole building.

(01:52:55):
I say, as if. I don't know that, but his
what I do know is that he told them he
was shocked at the level of damage that was done.

Speaker 1 (01:53:05):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:53:07):
Do you think it's plausible that he was telling the truth?

Speaker 3 (01:53:11):
I well, let's go back to another question of yours,
which is you know what was going on here? Why
is the government covering this up? And I can just
tell you that it appears based on other revelations that

(01:53:32):
have come to Jesse Trinado, because he's been the engine
of this investigation, this whole investigation, Jesse, that you know
there's evidence that the government had Timothy McVeigh under surveillance

(01:53:59):
before for this attack.

Speaker 4 (01:54:05):
Think about that. That kind of goes back to the
Pearl Harbor thing. What if we knew See how that
theme comes back over and over. What if the government
knew about that's because you're a conspiracy theorist? Or did
they know him when they know it? What if we

(01:54:26):
knew about Pearl Harbor before it happened? What if we
knew about the plan? What if George Bush knew about
the attack on nine to eleven before it happened. What
if the Feds knew that McVay was going to blow
something up. Let's just say he wasn't a government operative.

(01:54:47):
Let's just say he was a crazy, whacked out whack job.
Maybe that they knew before he was going to detonate
something in front of the federal building. And you know,
but what what if that would not make them culpable too?

(01:55:08):
It's uh, the the again, going back over this stuff,
it brings back these memories and you're like, whoa wait
a second, Yeah, whatever happened to and the Trinita do
things where she mentioned Jesse Trina do that's again the
brother who is the attorney of the guy who was

(01:55:28):
beaten to death in the jail cell in Oklahoma City.
That that story in and of itself right there is
just is crazy. Because he it was. It turned out
to be a case of mistaken identity. The FBI or
the CIA, one of them thought thought that this Trinda
Do guy was somebody that he wasn't, And.

Speaker 1 (01:55:51):
Then they go in and I.

Speaker 4 (01:55:54):
One theory is that the things got out of hand
when they were questioning him in the cell and oops,
I think we killed him. And then they had to
cover that up. I know, crazy that that the FBI
or the CIA would try to cover up a crime
of their own doing. That would never happened.

Speaker 1 (01:56:14):
Well it should. Somebody should go dig in to see
who got laid off from the FBI after the bombing.

Speaker 4 (01:56:23):
Yeah, well, what do you think that would tell us?

Speaker 1 (01:56:27):
Man? Who's who screwed up? Who was supposed to be
surveilling him but wasn't that day, or you know, whatever
the case may be. Wasn't there the FBI? Didn't they
have a headquarters inside the Federal building? Yeah? Pretty sure,
that's right.

Speaker 4 (01:56:41):
And that weird how they had the they had the
big office there and in New York World Trade Center seven,
And that weird? How wasn't it the Secret Service?

Speaker 1 (01:56:53):
Isn't that weird?

Speaker 4 (01:56:54):
How these weird? Just like weird happenstance. It's crazy. They
are just the unluckiest bunch of agencies I've ever seen.
It's anyway, the Margaret Robert's conversation with Tucker Carlson is
and you can see her speech patterns a little slow.

(01:57:16):
If you hit it at one point seventy five, you'll
still I think, do fine. But it's an eye opener.

Speaker 1 (01:57:24):
I'm not sure why that's not playing right now? Just
go ahead. Yeah, that's sorry. Hey, you got to say
that's not the whold on a second, I can we
can get this done.

Speaker 4 (01:57:35):
It's just like a finely oiled machine is running the place.

Speaker 1 (01:57:43):
See, there's no no harm, no foul.

Speaker 4 (01:57:45):
Who'll just edit that part out? No one will ever
know you screwed up.

Speaker 1 (01:57:48):
Thank you, but you won't. You're welcome, but I won't.

Speaker 4 (01:57:52):
That is two hours of audio deliciousness and conspiratorial rantings
known as the Daily Mojo for today pump Day, the
sixth day of August, the Year of our Lard, twenty
twenty five day. Anything was anything learned by anyone?

Speaker 1 (01:58:05):
Eh?

Speaker 4 (01:58:06):
Let's find out over in a rumble, evan Guru said,
should the government keep secrets?

Speaker 1 (01:58:10):
How do we decide what to keep secret.

Speaker 4 (01:58:13):
That's an excellent question, and I've done a complete one
eighty on the way. Old innocent Brad used to think.
It's it's not pretty out there. Let me tell you that.
Else said they replaced the knife switch with the three
switches later got it, So I was right. It was
a little switch that you know, the great mile, Yes,

(01:58:36):
exactly what was that? What was the weasley DD's name,
the weasely guard. I don't got him. Uh Peka pull
over into Ecks a runaway train. I think of you
more like a shopping cart with one wonky wheel rolling
away on a very slightly slowed parking lot. You know,
take what we can get, Wisconsin, jack Ole, I really

(01:58:56):
didn't learn a damn thing today.

Speaker 1 (01:58:58):
As we like it.

Speaker 4 (01:59:00):
Uh see left says off the Walfop. Maybe Timmy had
an incurable disease and his family got money for his actions.

Speaker 1 (01:59:09):
I hadn't really thought about that one.

Speaker 4 (01:59:11):
I think that might be stunned shy boy in Iowa.
If I recall McVeigh did not fight the conviction or
sent into a sentence.

Speaker 1 (01:59:18):
To get it open. No, I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:59:21):
He's just like, let's go like coburger.

Speaker 1 (01:59:23):
Yeah, yeah, I'm telling you. This is again, this is
really weird.

Speaker 4 (01:59:27):
Fake Zoe over in the Daily Mojo chat room. Have
a great hump right, I think that's good advice any day,
and deb as always have a happy hump day Mojo fam.

Speaker 1 (01:59:37):
Damn straight, Babe, Babe, bron you two.

Speaker 4 (01:59:42):
May the rest of your day go with a minimal
effort and happy endings all day long.

Speaker 1 (01:59:50):
That worked, Thank you, Yes, absolutely a.

Speaker 4 (01:59:52):
You're welcome. Remember that we the people are staying together,
otherwise we sall surely hang separately.

Speaker 1 (01:59:56):
Six separate trantis, he said, stupid and good night.

Speaker 4 (01:59:59):
Doct Thompson a wash and listen at the Dailymojo dot com.

Speaker 9 (02:00:07):
Mhmm
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