#13 - Beast Coast w/Matt Savage - The Darkest Hour Podcast

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Hey, guys, what's up.It's Josh. It is Monday, the
twenty six. The second of twoepisodes coming out today is this one with
comedian and online Twitter friend Matt Savage. I've been trying to have Matt on
for a long time. He's oneof my good buddies from the East Coast,
and we chat quite a bit viaTwitter and jump into all kind of
messes and stuff over there and talka lot of shit and it's fun.

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You know, if you don't followme on Twitter, I can't imagine you're
listening to this, but you don'tfollow me on Twitter, because that's preposterous.
That's where all my best shit is. So this is like, this
podcast is like an accessory to theconversation that's already happening on Twitter. So
you better get with the times.It's been the hot shit since two thousand
and eight, two thousand and nine. And you know the best thing about

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Twitter, if you don't know this, is that you can whatever career you're
in, you can end it immediatelywith sharing your opinions on Twitter, which
we talk about a little bit inthis episode. Some of you guys may
know I was working with some friendson a start up advertising agency, and
we talk about the fate of thator that endeavor a little bit on this

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episode spoiler alert. I'm no longerwith this agency or working with these guys,
And the reason, if you've beenfollowing along, is kind of the
same as always. It boils downto, at the end of the day,
places I don't like to, youknow, are places that I work
ultimately sort of seem to have thisissue with the fact that I'm a comedian

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and you know safe fucked up thingsfor the purposes of being funny and sometimes
say fucked up things for the purposesof being truthful and talking about political shit
and everything else. And listen,like, you know, the whole guys
of this business as we built it, as you heard me talk about on
interview after interview, was this wasgoing to be this sort of anti cancel

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culture thing. And lo and behold, at the end of the day that
guys that I was working with arepartnered with cared more about the possibility the
business being canceled because of what I'mdoing on Twitter. So you know,
I could I call the whole thingcompletely fucking hypocritical and say that you know

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it part of the reason I walkedaway was because at the very core of
what the mission of the business wassupposed to be, everybody abandoned ship.
Sure I could say that, butwho am I to drag anyone in?
But yeah, so here we areback to the drawing board, you know,
and listen, let maybe one thingvery clear, Like anybody who's kind
of followed along with my story andeverything I've been through, you know,

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fighting for a comedian's right not tobe taken seriously, fighting for the right
to sort of have your own lifeoutside of your workplace and being able to
share your thoughts and ideas and opinionsand not just jokes and silly shit,
but even your political beliefs without persecution. I've sacrificed so fucking much for that
battle that I am not walking awayfrom it for any job any time soon,

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for any amount of money. I'vealready lost too much u for the
especially when there's not like money inhand. I could see if somebody was
coming to me and being like,hey, dog, we're gonna pay for
your fucking everything forever, and thenI like, go, cool, sounds
great, but it's every everybody wantsyou to fucking give it up and and

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like not talk about shit online andbasically sell out your entire fucking persona for
the potential promise of some money inthe future, like with no leverage,
no nothing, and uh sorry,I'm not gonna do that. That's not
that's not in my blood. Man. It's like, if you want me

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to sell out, fucking write acheck. You know. It's like everybody
wants you to stop being yourself forfree, and uh, they don't want
to pay to be anybody else.They just want to have control. They
just want to dictate what you canand can't do. They just this whole
world now we live in it's justpeople trying to regulate your freedoms because they're

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too fucking cowardly to exercise their own. So it is what it is.
It's a pretty savage episode, mybuddy, Matt Savage. Enjoy it,
guys, I hope you like it. Hello Darkness, smile friend, I've
come to talk with you again becausea vision softly creeping lift it seats while

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I was sleeping, and the visionthat was planted madrain stealing these There's two
ways to see things like in theworld. One is to try to find
a way to laugh at it,and the other is to just live a
miserable existence where you're unhappy about everything. What the fuck is that you really

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adopted the I was wanting it?That seems really dark. Now it's not
dark. You misunderstanding me, Bro, this is gonna get dark for people.
No, God, please, no. Do you think that anybody that
does enjoy dark comedy that it's indicativeof a deeper evil? I'm in NaKaT.

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Do you understand? I'm in nadakal right? Cool. The thing
that sucks about Twitter bands is thatyou know, they never want to give
you specific information on why they dida band, and so you're kind of,

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like in a lot of cases,stuck to trying to figure it out
yourself. Occasionally you'll get like theworst I've ever gotten is I've seen people
report tweets and um, you know, they'll they'll send me a thing of
like this tweet was reported and youknow this it's under review, or you

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can take it down. You knowwhat's weird is of all the crazy shit
I've tweeted and like offensive jokes andeverything over the years, the only tweet
I ever had to take down wasthe Billy Ilish Michael Jackson one. Do
you remember that tweet? Vaguely?Vaguely, yeah, I just said,
Billy Eilish's music is so terrible thatwe should have let Michael Jackson have as

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many children as he needed to keepmaking music, which is obviously a fucking
joke. The funny thing is islike all her fans came after me and
were like, he's pro pedophilia.It's like, no, I'm fucking pro
comedy making a joke about how badher music is, and it just made
another Billy I Wash joke. Didyou It wasn't even a Billy Ilish joke.

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It was I was making a thisis why people are fucking retarded.
I was making a self deprecating fatjoke because Scotchy Cool I think I'm saying
her name right wrote this article aboutstop calling like chunky regular women brave,
which is kind of funny because shedid it under the guise of like,

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um, almost like making it moretolerant and acceptance, but it's actually kind
of a very anti woke concept,is like, yeah, stop calling chunky
girls brave. That's just normal,and you should stop sensationalizing it. So
I just said, if if ifher body makes her brave. Then mine
makes me a nine to eleven fireman, right, and then at this point

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I'm gonna stop working out. There'sreally no point anymore. I'm just gonna
start eating what I want. Ifthat's the case. That's as I eat
a donut while you ju jitsu.Yeah, I just literally starred myself and
ate like three chicken breasts. Youwere here eating a donut now like Twitter,
Yeah, fuck it, I'm gonnahere. I'm an American hero.
I don't know what your problem,but yeah, dude, you're a fireman.

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Dude, put you on a calendarlike and maybe it should, maybe
it should make like a sexy calendar. I got so bigngers are in man,
big bones gingers just just the thick, just bare cup calendar, just
the twelve months of me. Justyeah, you're just hairy, red like
fire chest and everything, but differentsexy scenarios for my birthday months August.

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I'm just spread, asshole, Likeyou're just like the Burt Reynolds layout from
the SEC Yes, when he didthat spread and I mean full spread.
Yeah, fully, somebody somebody actuallyuh back a few years like ten years
ago. It was when I wasstationed in Texas. Um. They they
they literally took in my shower.I was gonna I got home, he

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took a shower. My buddies tookthat spread and put it in my shower,
and then my supervisors came over andwe're looking at like, dude,
what the fuck you know? Andback then it was don't ask, don't
tell, right, So but yeah, like I Twitter is one of those
things. Man, It's like whenyou mess up. It's like when your
parents, you know, you're introuble in your life and you're they're yelling
at you not to do something,and you're like, but why, and

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they're like, because I said so, That's why. That's Twitter. In
a nutshell, Twitter, Twitter anda roundabout way has been the only thing
that has ever made me quit jobsor be fired from jobs in my entire
employment history. In a roundabout way. So I've had I've lost two jobs

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because of Twitter controversies that came outfrom me being a comedian. Yeah,
and I just walked away from anothercompany and I won't get into the whole
details everything where a place where Iwas working and doing stuff recently with a
couple of buddies because I just gottired of having conversations about what I do
as a comedian on Twitter. Imean, you know, it's like this

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is I'm gonna do. I thinkI'm gonna do like a PSA type video
or like a Vio cover letter andjust put it on my LinkedIn and say,
listen. If you want to workwith me here, google me first,
right right, Like, don't evenfucking call me for an interview unless
you google me first, and youget the fact that I'm a comedian and

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I'm gonna say fucked up things inthe guise of being a comedian. That's
how you fight back. That's howyou fight back, Like I think that,
like, that's how you start sayingAnd listen, I'm sick of your
your shit Twitter, and listen,this is who I am as a person.
This is what my thoughts and feelingsare. And in a world where
social media is so scrutinized, likeI think the employers should have should know,

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like listen, where we're getting withthis guy. We should already know.
But also like why censor yourself?Man? Just you tell you need
to tell them like this is thisis who I am. Take it or
leave it. Well, it becomesa slippery slope, right, And this
is like, this is kind oflike related to you know, without going
into a ton of detail, oneof the legal case I'm in right now

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pertains to one of these companies Iwork for. And you know, the
tricky thing that companies are running intonow that they're going to find out about
is, you know, you're borderingon You're very much bordering on a violation
of civil rights. Because let's see, if I'm making comedy, right,

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and I'm doing something satirical and I'mpoking fun of a public figure, that's
one thing. But if I'm pokingif I'm making a joke that is from
my perspective as somebody who is prolife and anti abortion, then that that
borders on protected political speech. Andyou could take it a degree further.

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And if you know, I'm nota super religious guy, but if it
were something that we're related to myreligion, then if you fire me for
making an anti abortion joke on Twittervisa VI, you're kind of firing me
for my religious beliefs. And socompanies are going to have to start learning
that this becomes a slippery slope,right, because all of like perfect example

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is, let's say a woman workingfor a place post something about only fans
and body positivity, and all ofa sudden, they go, we don't
like that messaging. We don't likethat out there. We think it's too
provocative. We're gonna let you go. Next thing, you know, you
find out that girl's a lesbian andthe thing that she was posting was pertaining

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to her sexual orientation or sexual identity. And so the companies are gonna what
they're gonna do is they're gonna pay, you know, a million pounds of
flesh metaphorically speaking, that they're gonnaget sued into oblivion, and that eventually,
when enough of these happen, companiesare going to realize, like,
we don't give a fuck what's onyour social media. We can't afford to.

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And if you have stuff on yoursocial media that pertains to our business,
where maybe your trade, you're you'resharing trade secrets or patents or proprietary
information, then that's one thing,because that's just like stealing from work.
But we have to get to apoint in this country where you are allowed
to be an individual outside of work. This big brother shit. If we're

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going to force you to conform byby putting consequences attached to any freedom of
expression that are so dire that itwill just suppress your urge to say anything
divergent. That's not that's not afree country man, No it's not.
And you know, every company hasa mission statement, as you know,
anybody who's worked in u in theyou know, workforce at all. Every

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company has a mission statement, andevery company, seems like every company corporation
has an agenda. But you haveto make sure that you're what you're saying
on social media aligns with their agendaand their mission statement. And if you
don't, that's not no. Nownow you're in trouble. But like,
oh wait, so that's okay ifI disagree with you. If I disagree

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with you, so now you fireme. So like it's a real slippery
swept and like what where can wecome to a point and say, hey,
look, listen, look just becauselike we're for your company and like
I sometimes I disagree with your yourmission statement or your your set of ideals.
At what point can we say,like, listen, it's cool that
you you know, you believe inall that, but look, you know,

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we'll let you be an individual.But it doesn't reflect you can say
it doesn't reflect my views, doesnot reflect on this company, And we
haven't come to that yet, andI'm just wondering, like, when the
funck will that happen. Well,it's a good question. I mean,
you know, I think it's gonnatake a lot of lawsuits and shit before
companies start realizing, like we justcan't be involved in who are people are
outside of work and this this overreachingconcept of you know, while you're a

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representative of us, of us twentyfour to seven, I mean, cool,
then pay me twenty four to seven. You can pay me this.
And this is the fucking argument Ihave with everybody. Every goes, well,
you're a reflection of the company.So you know, I went through
this when I was at Food Network. I went through this um in this
last business endeavor. It's like everyonewants to have this conversation with you about

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how what you do publicly reflects andaffects their business. Fine, pay me
not to do it, pay meto if you want. This is what
I don't understand. If you're sayingthat social media influences are worth like fifty
grand a campaign, two hundred thousanda campaign, whatever, they're worth right
to sell your product. If you'resaying that my social media is so powerful

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that it can affect your brand,then if you want to tell me what
to say about it, pay meand no, and everybody, like everybody
has this idea of like, ifyou work for them, they don't have
to do that. If you're apart of the company or you're involved in
the business in some way, thatyour individual brand, your personal brand now
belongs to them at no additional expense, and that they get to control what

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gets distributed on that channel. Sorry, motherfucker. I told the Food Network.
If you want me to stop doingcomedy, and you guys don't want
me to put shit on Twitter thatyou think is going to call an unnecessary
backlash to the network, pay meright. You were paying me four grand
an episode, all right. Imade almost one hundred grand to do twenty
four episodes of television. It's prettysimple math. If they wanted me to

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not do comedy at that time,I was like, that's fine, you
can pay me the two million dollarsa year and uh put me like,
I'll do one hundred episodes a yearof of whatever fucking shows you want.
I don't care, but I'm not. I'm not gonna silence the voice that
got me a TV show in thefirst place. Um, you know,
for no money. Yeah, likeyou're like like you also on the other

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side of that though, you whenyou say I'll be quiet or I'll change
my my my beliefs, I'll changemy beliefs on paper for the right amount
of money. But like people wereyou, it's like, no, I'm
not selling myself out. I'm it'sabout We're in this business to make money.
The days of I'm in this businessfor the love of the game.

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It's over. Now. We livein a capitalistic society. Like I understand
that. Listen, Like musicians andcomics, we we you and I love
to do the things we do tomake people laugh. However, at the
end of the day, or topush buttons or make them think or whatever
your motivation. Now, even atthe end of the day, we want
to profit off this in a waythat you know, our product becomes better.

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We start doing I start doing youknow, actual shows, and eventually
one day theaters and soone Well.The good thing is, Matt, nobody's
doing actual shows right now because thereare no actual shows. There are no
actual shows. They're starting to getaround to it here in Maryland because I
think we're like want then the statewith the low least amount of cases or
whatever, so they're kind of lettingthings up with Yeah, but like even

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if they were opening up comedy clubsto a point where like they were at
letting open micros in actual pay comicsand do you really want to go and
sit in front of like five peoplebecause of the social distancing? Not really
not for me, No, Idefinitely don't want to know. I looked
into and I was like, youknow, having fifty people is cool,
but that's not a lot. Butalso then like social distancing now it comes

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down to ten. But like atthe end of the day, I'm in
this to make a bit side likea hustle from myself. And you know,
people like you sold out, sure, okay, cool, like Metallica
said once, they're like, youknow, you sold out, and they're
like, yeah, we sell outevery show, so yeah, yeah,
I mean you know, and thisis the thing I have when people are
talking about like, oh, well, that's selling out, it's to me,

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it's really you're only selling yourself outif you're not getting what you think
you're worth right. It's so tome. It's like I would have had
no problem rewinding it back, right, I would have had no problem going
back and doing the Food Network showand continuing to do that and putting comedy
on hold. Like I would havenot done stand up. I would have

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done whatever. You know, butif the price made sense, Like the
whole reason I did the show inthe first place was to get a bigger
audience for stand up. So ifyou're then telling me I can't do stand
up or you don't want me todo it because you're afraid it's gonna you're
afraid it's gonna one second. Um, sorry, I'm just replaying to um.

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You know, if you're afraid it'sgonna have a negative impact on the
thing, and you want me tojust be Jimmy you know food Show,
no problem, no problem. Butthe guys who are Jimmy Food Show,
who were doing anywhere near the numbersI was doing, We're making over twenty
thousand an episode. They had producercredits on their show, they had ownership
in their show, And so Iwas like, if you want me to

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do that and not do this thecreative process, yeah, then pay me
to do this the right amount ofmoney, because you know, you gotta
fucking you got a sweetheart of adeal because I was an unknown guy.
And then I bet on myself.I did a contract where I came in
and said, I'll hit these numbersand if we hit these numbers, we're
gonna renegotiate in a year and we'regonna we're gonna get me the contract that

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I think i'll earn. And youknow, it's so weird to me that.
Um. Then when you sort ofcall people out on that stuff and
say I was just tweeting this.When you call people out on that stuff
and say, yeah, listen,I'll sell out, but the price has
to be right, Yeah, thenthey almost get like angry because you know,

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you're like you're you're putting them outof there. You're like, it's
not even about principle, it's aboutvalue. And people were so mad because
Rogan sold out to Spotify, andI was like, no, you don't
understand. He's moving on to agiant, even bigger platform and now he
holds the cars to say and dowhatever he wants. And I want to
get to that place where it's like, oh no, you want me so

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you gotta be i'd be able,I should be able to say whatever I
want. It's want me and untilwe get to that because like I don't
think, like I know, I'mnot there, but I want to get
to that place where I can sayI can make be my own boss without
having to worry about being canceled,and you know, and then saying like
listen, if buddy, if youdo, if you do want me to

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calm that shit down, fuck youpay me right, And it's sort of
like listen. I think there's nothingwrong with the creative challenge of like try
to make this joke without making likeusing profanity or using this language or whatever.
Anytime I've done like clean shows orwhatever, they're good challenges makes you
become a better comedian. But I'venever done those for free. I've never

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gone in and been like, I'lldo a clean show for free, Like
never, That's never been my thing. Like, if you're going to compromise,
you're either doing exactly what you want. If you're going to compromise it
in any way, there has tobe a what I would call a compromise
tax. If you want me tocompromise on my creative vision for myself and
my career. Then that cost youmoney. Otherwise, just go do what

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I'm doing. And this is whatI used to say, like, this
is what I say to managers andagents in the industry, is like listen,
to some extent, if you coulddo what I do, you'd be
on my side of the table andnot yours. So you're somebody who sells
ideas. I'm somebody who has ideas. We can either work together or I
will just figure out a way tosell the ideas that I have. I'm
not like you, though, deservedto be in that and the decision making

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process, especially comics who we knowwhat funny is. And so for these
days, it seems like a lotof these Hollywood executives or guys they not
even Hollywood, just anywhere. Allthese executives they have they are literally no
talent. Literally, well this isthis is yeah, this is the this
is the misconception about Hollywood executives.Everyone goes like, oh, they're all

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these like rich, old white men. They're not. Almost every development executive
in television is a woman under theage of thirty, almost all of them.
And so yeah, most of themare white women. Most of them
are very wealthy white girls who grewup went to a good school, They
went to fucking Vasser, they wentto USC, they went to NYU,
and they are now. You know, they might have worked in an agency

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for a little bit, but they'llthey'll come in as a producer on a
show that does well, and thenthey'll end up running the entire development for
a network. And so like youlook at like the women, and it's
this way in comedy clubs too.People don't realize, like most of the
gatekeepers in comedy are women, yea. And so when when people talk about

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like there's this huge barrier to entryfor women in comedy, no, that
the reality is most of them arewomen, and because they're women, they
have a much higher standard of whatthey're going to accept from female comics.
Right. A lot of them thinka lot of female comics are shit.
Right, And so that's true.And I think I heard uh who is
saying this one her podcast. Idon't remember which female community, but they

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said the same exact thing. It'slike, it's not that you know that
there's no competition or there's no femaleinterest in doing comedy, or they can't
get in because they're being harbored bythe patriarchy. It's just that they literally
it's about interest and it's also aboutthey all are they suck. So yeah,
there's a lot of redundancy, youknow, and I think, um,

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I think the difficulty. Somebody puta real like put a really really
good spin on this, and Ican't remember who said it, and I
wish I did, but uh,and it kind of pertains a little bit
of what Ben Shapira or Ben BenShapira, Ben Shapiro or Jordan Peterson have
talked about in the past about partof the reason why women are paid less

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is not because of misogyny. It'sbecause that they're more agreeable and they're more
likely to take the first deal that'skind of thrown at them versus negotiating harder
for a better deal, and somore I mean most of us, you
know, you know, there's aresome outliers, of course, but yeah,
and there are women that are bullslike you look at you look at

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like Tracy Tudor, the real estateagent on million Dollars listening, she's a
fucking savage. Like if I wasin the market of buying or selling a
million dollar home, which I probablynever will be. But if I was,
um, that's the person I wouldwant representing me because she's a pit
bull, right, But she's anoutlier, but she's an outlier, like
we like to hold women out likethat because they're special and unique. But

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everyone can't be Tracy Tudor. Everyonecan't be you know, Mark Cuban.
And so when you think about peoplethat are really solid, hard negotiators,
that's a unique skill. The samecomes down to, like talented people,
there is only ever gonna be oneDave Chappelle. There might be a handful
of comics who get to that level. Same with women, there's only ever

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gonna be one Joan Rivers and theremight be you know, three or four
that get close to her. Ithink Lisa Lampanelli was probably the closest thing
we ever had. Was definitely she'sI mean, she's one of my influences.
Man. I all those rows shedid, and I've had, you
know, who's to say like I'vehad? I had, you know,
because I was raised by a motherand she had three sisters, so it

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was a very matriarchal family I grewup in, and so like I had
female influences as far as comedy goes, even the ones up today like Whitney
Cummings and uh and stuff like so, but like Lisa Antonelli, I was
the first female offs like, youknow, I remember being a kid laying
like, man, I never hearda woman talk like that. Yeah,
you know, yeah, it's amazing, I mean, and then that was
for me. I just grew upand that was all my sisters and my

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aunts they all talked like that.So you know, when I when I
met regular women, I was like, what the fuck are these these what
exactly like what are these proper women? When my mother was a very suprem
like proper Southern woman. So whenI heard and her sisters were too,
so when I heard, like youknow, well, it took me to
join the military to find out therethere are a lot of women out there

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who are like a foul mouse.And but then like you know, every
day woman. But like Lisa Lampanelli, I was just like she's saying things
that like you'll ever hear women talkingabout like I never heard my you know,
thank god, like my my aunt'stalking about their vagina, you know,
yeah, comes ow, she's talkingabout you know, talking last Oh

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yeah, she was she was hardcore. Lisa was hardcore. She was great,
and then the band was a gamefor me. But for me,
the opposite culture shock happened because Igrew up on the East Coast and all
the all women that I grew uparound kind of talked like that. And
then I moved to Minnesota to theMidwest. Yeah, when I moved to
Minnesota in high school, I waslike, what do you mean you don't
curse or fuck women? My wifeare Maryland and she's like, she talks

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just like a cuss is like asailor. You know, Yeah, how
I grew up, you know.Yeah, it's a very sort of kind
of it's a very doggy dog kindof cut through culture. And I miss
it. I miss it some days. This and this is what I'll say.
The difference is, I like,I'll shoot on Philly, where I'm
from, and I'll shoot on peoplelike Baltimore, the East Coast. Um.

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But I will say this, Iwould rather be stabbed in the face
than in the back. And onething I love about people on the East
Coast is that like, if they'rerude, they're at least deliberately rude to
your face. They don't do itin this pussy passive, aggressive California way.
And I was gonna say this too, like the whole Southern hospitality that's
not real, that doesn't exist,you know, because it's a fake ass

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nice Like it's like, oh thephrase, here's a phrase, oh bless
your heart that seems you're a fuckingidiot. Yet they're scab you literally in
the back and they'll be like yourbest friend and then talk shit behind your
back. Oh well, what apiece of shit he is and be like,
oh, you know, bless hisheart or whatever. Yeah, and
then like, I like you here. When I moved here the first time,

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because I grew up in Mississippi butalso lived in Texas, so I
was used to everybody waving at eachother and shaking hands and hot five and
and whatever, being nice and smiling, and I thought that was real until
I got to Maryland and this wasthis is the most really shit. And
I was like, I will nottrade this for anything. I'd rather like.
I literally, first time interaction witha person from like Baltimore, I

(28:47):
waved at him in passing. Theyflipped me off. At the time,
I was like, man, thatguy. Then I'm like, you know
what, I don't know too afterliving here for ten years, Like who
the fuck is your problem? Whoyou think you are? Asshole? Right?
Exactly. Yeah, there's this verysort of like you think you're better
than me, default mentality for peopleon the East Coast, which are you
happy? You have no reason tobe happy, it's it's cold, yeah,

(29:11):
yeah, And I think that's Ithink that is like the you know,
that's kind of like the East CoastWest Coast thing has always been that
way in stand up and the weirdthing is like it's almost like the East
Coast mentality of stand up comedy isno longer represented in the audiences like and
and I feel I feel like that'snot true because if you, like you

(29:33):
go to a Legion a skank showor you go to like a Nick de
Polo show, those fucking people comeout in droves. And even still like
the old school guys like Norton whoused to be on Ona all the time,
like they still draw that audience outand a lot of those people are
like, you know, thirty tosixty. Yeah, but the younger audience
skews very sort of West Coast,very PC, very you know, very

(29:57):
gay, you know, Ellings drawlsout the assholes from New York. He's
very good at that, Like he'sone of the ones that I've been washing
and he's just so in your face, unpologetically. His videos are insanely funny.
Yeah, and like a couple ofother guys like like Luisa Gomez,
Yeah, like they're in even likeBig Jay, who like my favorite thing

(30:19):
about him, he's he likes todo the crowd word and then shows like
New York Comedy I think took abig dip for a while, and I
think it's kind of coming back.Well I think I don't know if it
necessarily took a dip, but whereit kind of got where it's sort of
there was sort of just like agenerational falloff between the Patrise, Giraldo,
Colin Quinn, Jim Norton generation,the Attel generation, and then this new

(30:45):
generation and it just kind of tookthe news. And you know what it
was, It wasn't even their fault. It's because Hollywood and Comedy Central used
to have their arms around the NewYork guys and really used to push them.
Like if you remember, like ColinQuinn had tough crowd, Buttel had
insomniac. Um. You know,I'm sure there are other ones. Giraldo

(31:06):
had his show for a while.I can't remember what it was, but
it was like a like a courtshow. Um, you know, they
loved Patrese. They put Patrese oneverything, so um. They they loved
Burr. Burr was on Chappelle Showa ton um. So it was this
weird thing of like when the newregime came in and Comedy Central pivoted and
became very all comedy in very Lawhere um you know they they this pivot

(31:33):
happened right around when I moved toLa two thousand and nine, two thousand
and ten, and the guys gettingspecials were a lot of the Midwestern dudes
that I had started with. Soit was like it pivoted and instead of
like the Giraldo kind of comics andthe and the Patrese kind of comics getting
specials, it became Kyle Knaane.It became Cumele Nanjohnny. It became kind

(31:53):
of quirky. And I wouldn't say, uh that Canaane is like nerdy or
quirky comedy, but but he cameout of that scene. He came out
of that old scene and so likealmost everyone that I started with uh got
specials. Uh when I moved toLa like right around that time, it
was like uh Prescott Tolk, ReneeGotier, Um, you know, uh

(32:19):
TJ. Miller, Kumel, youknow those kind of guys like the Nerds.
Then a lot of the guys whostarted and did the Nerdis shows.
Pete Holmes really blew up around thattime, had a late night show after
Conan. So um, there waslike this really this real big push and
I don't say this to be offensiveto those guys, but it was sort
of like a real big push tode masculine eye uh comedy, to to

(32:42):
make it, to find pussy menand give them television exposure because the comedy
was very alpha before that. Thatmakes sense because like I mean, I'm
not and I'm like again, I'mnot knocking these guys either. They their
their work is great, Like umwas it? Uh Delaney Like he's I
mean he is one of the Imean Rob you mean Rob Delaney or John
mulaney. J Yeah, John Laney. He's like uh he wears you know,

(33:07):
very uh kind of effeminine, butlike you know, yeah, he's
a very beta kind of guy andthat's his brand, right, but he's
hilarious and I get it. Iget it, and it's like, you
look at that, and then thatmakes sense because I remember, like even
coming up, like I don't know, it seemed like ten fifteen years ago.
I'm like, I thought, youknow, what happened to like like
the comedy is kind of more likeI don't know, I was used,

(33:28):
like you said, I grew upwatching like you know, but Kennison and
uh, you know, and comingup and um, you gotta think about
this. You gotta think about itin cycles, right, and so go
all the way back to the beginning. In the very very beginning, it
was like slapsticky nonsense, right,Charlie Chaplin, Satty R Buckle, shit

(33:49):
like that. And then came fuckingRed Fox and people are like, oh
shit, Lenny Bruce, Lenny Bruceand George Carlin. Yea, so those
are the original badasses. And thenit pivoted. Then it pivoted and the
mainstream was Cosby paul A pound Stone. You know, these Jerry Seinfeld,
these cleaned up Robin. No,but yeah, Robin wasn't really raw until

(34:12):
later. He didn't really get likereally filthy and shit until he was in
his forties or fifties. Yeah.Um, But for the most part the
mainstream became very polished, and thisis when the suit and tie boom happened
the first time. Then that ledto the resurgence of raw edgy comedy that
came out with Patrese and ATel andBurr and Colin Quinn and and all those

(34:36):
guys came out of that, andthen that led to the beta male era
of comedy in the mid two thousands, which sort of started with Dane Cook.
And not that Dane was one ofthose sort of beta mail comics,
but Dane was the first comic whosaid, well, you don't have to
be one of these hardcore guys.You can be a little more silly and
a little bit more goofy. Youcould also be handsome, because he was

(34:59):
gonna they're very handsome at the time. And and so then people started looking
at comedians like Hollywood actors and saying, we want good looking guys who are
clean, who are not offensive,who can be put in movies and do
these other things. And then itpivoted back to kind of pussy men in
the mid two thousands, and thenhere we are ten years later and you're

(35:21):
watching the pendulum slowly goal back theother way, where where a guy like
Tim Dillon, who is and Isay this with all love, Tim Dillon
is like a Colin Quinn reboot,a ranty political angry and I think he's
I think he's ten times funnier.Thank. I think I think Tim Dillon
is like if you took Colin andPatrese and put them together and it was

(35:45):
a fat white dude who sucked it, that's Tim Dillon. Yeah, Like
he's like this guy who fucks twinksbut also talks like he's like fucking you
know, like he can bang orchick and yes, yeah, So this
sort of alpha, the alpha natureof comedies coming back and then that so
it's sort of like now is thetime for guys like myself, Sam Tripoli,

(36:07):
uh Lui Gomez big jokes, likethe market is there for people like
us now and we have about aten year window now to make something of
ourselves before the pussiness comes back.When's the market for tall dudes, man?
Because I'm not looking for that.I know back in the day,
like tall guy like Dane Cook's atall guy. Garry Gallman is monstrous.

(36:28):
Yeah you can turn that. Youcan't turn that. You can turn that
light back on that now it's killingme. It's right. Shit. So
like it's six foot um he's Ithink Fokerson's like sixty three. But like
yeah, like and even like todaylike the also there's a new sub I'm
always six feet tall and I'm afucking monster in hot Yeah. Man,
you're a big bearded ginger monster dude. I uh, I think uh,

(36:52):
but they like guys like the heavierset guys are coming back. I think
that's like a subcategory, like yougot your Chrisher's your Cigura's, um,
well Tom. What's interesting about Sigurais Cigura as a guy who's kind of
penetrated through all of it because Tomcan play all the rooms. Like Tom
actually started doing a lot of thealt rooms that the guys I was just

(37:14):
talking about were doing. Like Iwhen I moved to LA I didn't meet
Sigura at the A clubs. Imet Sigura doing the off strip shows that
were a lot of the dudes Italked about it. Cigura would be on
shows with Pete Holmes and Kyle Kananeand Kummel and stuff, and then it
wasn't you know he would go onthe road with Russell Peters, he would
go on the road with Rogan andopen for those guys. And it really

(37:38):
wasn't until your Mom's House that hegot pushed into the top stratosphere of comedians.
Yeah, he lost weight. Tothat kind of helped. I think
he was just like I lost weight, So fuck you guys, I'm the
top. No, But you know, the thing is is like people that
are truly undeniably funny survived the ebbsand flows, right, And you know,

(38:00):
I think some some of the difficultyfor me maybe I don't know if
this is a mistake in my career, but I can switch gears from one
kind of room to the next.So if you look at my performance,
like when I if I do themain room at the store, I'm a
lot more sort of forceful, I'ma lot more gregarious. And then if
you look at like the clip thatI have that's online, that's at a

(38:23):
club called Mbar or not Mbar,sorry it was ms. Mbar has been
closed forever. Um it was aplace called Molocantina in Silver Lake, which
is kind of a more Aulti typeroom and so my delivery is a little
bit more tongue in cheek, alittle bit more clever, a little bit
more sarcastic, and so um,I've i've I kind of have bounced back

(38:46):
and forth depending on the room I'vebeen in. And I don't know if
that's a good thing or not,because I think sometimes people look at that
and go, well, this personis still figuring out who they are and
rather than like hybrid kind of butI try to curate the show to the
audience, Like, if it's ait's a smart audience, I want to

(39:06):
do smart material. If it's arowdy audience, I want to do you
know, edgy shit. Right.I think you're just good at reading the
room and that's what you have todo. Uh So my first ever opened
mic Uh, I didn't like.I didn't think this is like the Trial
by Fire. I walked in thisplace like it's a little college town.
You know, it's not that bigof a college. It's not even a

(39:27):
well known college. But uh Iwent there and it was like twenty one
year old like college kids and this, uh this bar, and I said,
you know, there's not much ofa thirty six year old man with
two kids. Uh and who wasalso a husband or whatever father having common
with a twenty one nineteen year oldcollege kid. Uh. So I didn't

(39:47):
read the room. I just saidwe'll just we'll just wing it, and
I winged it and I did myset and it was they were so they
didn't get any of the references.I'm like, fuck. So that was
like I said, like, youyou come in and you read the room
and you changed it up, andyou have to adapt, man, because
like I have a feeling like that'snot that's just every comic they when they

(40:08):
see what's in the room, um, and they just like a justs fire
and you have to just survive it. In my opinion, yeah, well
you know, I mean it isthat is true. It's um, you
know. And and I think there'sa thing of like reading the room is
good. I think you have tobe cautious about how much you let it
influence you because sometimes it can takeyou away entirely from you know who you

(40:34):
are and what you want to doand what you want to be. And
so that's all I'm saying is likeI do think there are times where I
have allowed that to happen, whereyou know, I sort of like,
let let the shift of the roomkind of alternate what I do, and
sometimes, um, you know,maybe you should just say fuck it and

(40:55):
do something that's sort of the oppositeof what you think the room would want
to. So you know, it'skind of like, um, it's kind
of like the poker mentality of likeyou always want to be leading, you
always want to be dictating the behavior, and so sometimes you know, you
just have to make that adjustment andsay, I know, everybody here seems
very alty, or that seems likethe audience, but maybe I'll just take
it a different direction. And youknow, I think I think when you

(41:19):
look at the greats, they kindof they kind of have that consistent style.
But I don't know. I mean, I've I've always liked that I
have some jokes that sort of fitthe smart rooms, and then I have
some jokes that are for the meatheads as well. So yeah, you
know, and because because I feellike I feel like I'm a blend of
those things. I feel like I'mI'm fifty percent meat head and fifty percent

(41:40):
very smart person, and my comedyis like a mixture of those two things.
Yeah, for someone who does likemartial arts, and I've you know,
I've done sports my whole life andbeen a military. I'm like ninety
five percent meathead. But it comeswith the territory of also like I'm able
to I understand that I'm a neanderthought and I can make fun of myself

(42:02):
and that's what people enjoy When youdo that. You don't want to go
overboard with a deprecation because now you'relike, oh, well, this dude
doesn't really take himself. That's seriouslylike or he doesn't really he really thinks
this is like his low self esteem. You don't want to get in that
area. But I come to thearea. Like the thing is like I
want everybody to like feel like they'relike part of like they're they're welcome,

(42:23):
and I understand them and I relateto them. Sometimes it doesn't really work
out because like, again, I'mnot a nineteen year old college kids,
so that's really hard for me tojust well, the relatability piece is the
piece that's sort of not negotiable withcomedy, And what I mean by that
is like, you can be alot of different things, but you've got
to either have thoughts that people relateto or you have to have perspective that

(42:45):
people relate to, because without thosethings, you're just a weird comedian and
you're then you're kind of relying entirelyon your charisma and your delivery and everything
else. And so like, thereare comics like that, Like people don't
love Maria Bamford because they can relateto her. They love her because she's
so unique and so silly and sooriginal and she's just flat out entertaining.

(43:10):
But it takes a lot of fuckingtalent to be a Maria Bamford. And
I don't think a lot of peoplecan be that kind of comic. And
I'm trying to think, like,oh, the male equivalent would be like
a Zach Alfanakis, Like it takeslike you can't just decide that you're gonna
be a Zach Alfanakis type of comic, or even like an Anthony Jesslnick,

(43:30):
like somebody who is so into thissort of character that they play. It
takes a tremendous amount of talent todo that. And you know, I've
I've never been somebody who's like,would would ever try to hold myself out
like that? And I've always feltlike if I've ever tried to be too
clever with shit, you know,that's where it goes south. Like if

(43:52):
I ever try to be too cuteor too clever with something, the audience
doesn't buy it because I just don'tseem like that guy. Try not to
like think too hard on a jokeand and get that like letting it flow
because like I think for me,and this is gonna sound weird, like,
so I do Brazilian jiu jitsu,and it's a flow sport where you

(44:12):
have to just when the opponent comesat you, you have to adjust to
their body mechanics and their style,and you don't. You're not trying to
kill each other. So that's it'slike a it's like you know, flowing
water, but like the same thing. And I approached commy the same way.
You have to let the audience comeat you and how you feel that
the aura, so to speak,and you you adjusted, you just fire

(44:36):
to that. And it's it's kindof like a give or take situation where
it's like how much are you howmuch are you gonna give me? And
how much am I gonna take?And vice versus. Well, I think
so much of life is that Imean, so that's the thing that's so
great about martial arts. And youknow, I don't have kids on my
own, but I tell all ofmy friends, and most of my friends
who have kids are single mothers,and I'm like, the best thing you
can do for your child is getthem into martial arts at the age of

(44:59):
like five or four, because theyit'll teach them personal discipline, It'll teach
them responsibility, it will teach themrestraint, it will teach them how to
channel their aggression productively. I mean, if there was anything I could go
back and do over, I wouldhave gotten into martial arts way younger,
and I would have stayed with itway longer. I say, I think
everybody, like I encourage everybody,not just jiu jitsu, but pretty much

(45:22):
like, you know, whatever martialart you can be, karate, taekwondo,
when I when I did I dida keto. Yeah, I did
a keto when I was like alept ten or eleven for about a year.
Right, Some people take that anduse it and some people end up
being steamings the goal h So youknow what I mean, Like, I'll

(45:44):
let you guess which one I endedup with. And somewhere but somewhere him
not him, thank god, butno like he Well, I got into
ice hockey or I got into hockeyspecifically, and then later ice hockey,
but I got into hockey, andthat's when I kind of I walked away
from both football and martial arts whenI got into hockey because I just loved
it. Marks in general, man, I think that everybody should like play

(46:06):
a sport, you know, butlike martial arts and specifically because before I
signed up, like I was inlike I was just like this drunk military
guy that just partied like he wasin college all the time. And I
had no like purpose and goals.They said military builds discipline, but only
if you allow it to and me, I was just like nah, you
know whatever, ill just like thewhatever. So then then like I found

(46:28):
martial arts, and it gave mepurpose, It gave me like confidence,
Like I mean, like I wasa very insecure person, you know before
that you know, I had likeit was like false provado. And then
like the aren't the military like withlike all a lot of military guys like
false provado you know, but likebut when you come into like martial arts,
there is no you leave your egoat the door and everybody's the same.

(46:51):
And then I was like, ohman, you know what we're we're
I'm no better than him, he'sno better than me. And we start
off we're both white belts, andwe start going and we become friends,
and like there's just like this brotherhood. And to meanwhile, you're both learning
how to, like you know,not only defend yourself, but like you're
you're, you're your your mind changed. As soon as you start like with
that, your discipline, and youstart getting discipline, your your whole entire

(47:13):
like brain chemistry changes. Like Istarted eating healthier, I started like,
um, doing even like outside weightlifting, cardio, UM. And I stopped
smoking. I stopped smoking cigarettes Iused to do. Do you think do
you think part of that though,is because and and I'll just throw this
out there, as someone who youknow, struggles with the getting in shape

(47:34):
thing, with the you know,I've been up and down the last ten
years constantly, I think that thereason jiu jitsu has that effect on people
because my buddy Tony Vinn, who'sa comic as well, started doing it
and he kind of had a similarresponse to it. He took like a
he had like a free class offersomething went and did it and then like
jumped into it with both feet.It's like completely changed his health and his

(47:58):
lifestyle. And here's what I thinkit does, and correct me if I'm
wrong. The thing about combat isyou understand the peril at hand because of
your physical limitations. Like you generallylike if if it's like, oh,
if I can't lift something, it'slike, it's fine, I figure it

(48:19):
out right, I'll or I'll youknow, I'll come back to it later.
I'll give it another go if Iyou know, if I get out,
if I get winded doing something physical, there aren't dire consequences to that.
When you're in combat with another humanand you feel overpowered and you feel
almost like victimized by your own bodiesinability to perform, I think that that

(48:42):
puts a seed in your head oflike, oh fuck, like this is
a severe issue, like these physicallimitations now, and I think to have
them tested against another person is thedeciding thing is to say, oh my
god, another human being just inflictedtheir fucking will upon me. That's terrifying
and I don't want that. It'slike throwing it like it's the same to

(49:04):
me. Like when I first started, it was like you throwing a toddler
into a pull for the first time. I'm glad you brought this up because
we just had a hole. Meand the mist has just had a whole
fucking conversation about this last night.So like just like throwing a toddler into
the water and you know, likeyou're you're gonna either you swim or you
drowned. And it's the same thinglike with martial arts, with jiu jitsu,

(49:27):
it's like you are you don't.Jiu Jitsu and anything combat combat sports
related in that high stress will showyou who your true self, you know,
really is. We'll show you whoyou really are. And not to
say that you are this really butit'll show you how much of a pussy
you are. Um, it showsyou, like how much of a coward

(49:47):
you are, how much you're willingto take, and how how often you're
willing to quit, which in jiujitsu it's and that's and that's fine.
So in a way, it's makingyou confront yourself, is what I'm saying.
You're not battle your opponent, You'rebattling yourself. And in a combat,
like in a situation where like thisdude can very well in a real
fight kill me, and that thatbrings perspective. So now you like and

(50:10):
even in the military, like whenwe face you know, training for combat,
in the combat situations where that enemywants to kill us, and it
triggers something. In the free spiderflight situation, what are you gonna do?
Are you gonna pussy out? Areyou gonna fight? And a lot
of humans are not in our life, our bubble in America, we're not

(50:30):
testing. We're not tested at allat all. There's a lot of people
go through life who have never beenthrough any kind of adversity. You've never
been anything kind of physical strife atall. They just go through life everything's
fine, which is a lot tome, in my opinion, a lot
a little less problems, yeah,my opinion. Like, no, I

(50:51):
think you're one hundred percent right,man, I think you're one hundred percent
right. Um, you know theuh, it's an insane thing right here.
I'm gonna say, can you hearthat audio when it plays? I
don't know if you can, Idon't know if the viewers can. They
might be able to. I'm gonnatry to. Um, I want to
try to pull up a clip.I've not done this on a show before,

(51:13):
so let me see if I canfigure it out. But I've done
it on zoom because I think peopleneed to see this if they're not familiar
with it. I'm so glad youbrought up the throwing a toddler in a
pool. It's not even toddlers,it's infants, and so like, uh
no, well no, it's athere's one. This might be the one

(51:35):
I'm looking at now, the oneyou're talking about where she literally, oh
yeah, no, here it is. So yeah, this shit is terrifying.
Let me see if I can sharemy screen application window. Here we
go. Here's this. Let meum kind of do it like that.

(51:57):
I want to add this in.Yeah, let me pull this up.
This woman got death threats. Herewe go, Oh yeah, cool,
this is very cool. So thiswoman got death threats for doing this,
but she's just and it started andshe and it got on his back and

(52:19):
it started. Yeah, it startedfloating. So apparently like uh my um
my girlfriend saw this for the firsttime yesterday and was like what the fuck.
And I was like, oh,yeah, I've seen that before,
and I think I remember seeing thiswhen that lady did it, but apparently

(52:42):
it's like entirely based on like babieshave this instinct to float on their back
and to try to breathe, andit's so weird to me. And and
so then we got into the wholeconversation of like, oh my god,
if somebody that to our kid,what would you do or what would you
you know, it's like, oh, you know, uh number one,
this is the evil side of me. I would be like, well,

(53:05):
if the kid learns to swim,that's great, and he's tough, and
it proves that there's some sort ofyou know, intrinsic survival thing even for
babies, and if he doesn't makeit, we own the YMCA forever.
Yeah, did you think, like, you know, hundreds of thousands of
years ago in the in the dawnof humans, Like I haven't imagined that
we had when we had to learnhow to swim pretty fucking early to evade,

(53:31):
you know, get away from predators. Yeah, that's the same thing,
no different than dogs, like likepuppies, Like my puppy I just
got she knows how to swim.How the fuck did she learn that?
I didn't teach her? Yea,Like how why would it not be in
an infant child. You know,I think it's just a fact that the
woman just like palms the baby andjust like yeah, volleyball spiked it a

(53:53):
little bit into the pool, whichwas, yeah, I can understand where
I like, what the fuck isthat for? But yeah, yeah,
of course, like it's gonna befine until the one time it doesn't work,
and then everyone's gonna be like,well, of course, bitch like
And I was saying, like,there's gotta be some moment that there's gonna
be some situation where the timing isoff and the baby just happens to sort

(54:16):
of like inhale as it's hitting thewater, you could find out how retarded
your infant son's gonna be if theydon't, right, Yeah, I mean,
honestly, it might be a betterListen, maybe we just found the
solution to late term abortion. Ifyou don't want the baby, have it,
throw it in the pool. Ifit floats up, then they fucking

(54:40):
threw kids off clips hue that way. Yeah, if it turns around and
floats, you know you got awinner. If it doesn't make it,
then does Darwinism. Well if itdoes make it somehow, But like it
like it just barely hangs on,just like you know that kids probably not
gonna grow up to be really smart, so just prepare for life of them

(55:02):
not being intelligent. Yeah if yeah, I mean so you could probably save
yourself a lot of heartache and troubleby doing it that way. Little Johnny's
not going to Harvard, I cantell you that. Yeah, if you
can't, well, you know that'sfunny too. But did you see that,
um one of my favorite things.Did you see that clip of what

(55:23):
was it? Um? Oh?God? It's the new Reno nine one
one yet? Yeah, it's it'son Quimby or whatever. Yeah, and
uh it's shorts. But there's aclip that I saw it's a like jonesy
um who like runs up and it'sa white lady called people on black kids

(55:44):
in the pool. It's like there'sblack kids in the pool. And he's
like, woman, you got stuffcalling the cops on black people all the
time. They're not bothering you.What the fuck is wrong with you?
What's wrong? What are the blackkids doing? And she's like they're drowning.
He's like black babies. He's like, fun, I gotta watch that,
dude, it's the funniest clip ever. Uh did you see do you

(56:06):
see the clip of the cougar ofthe mountain, Oh, the one chasing
the guy who was all walking backwardsand filming it. Well, I don't
know if it's like some weird humaninstinct when that motherfucker rose up and like
did that thing where he just kindof like like puck up lunge basically lunged
at him. Yeah, at him, And I'm like thinking the whole fucking
time, there's literally boaters sitting nextto you. Why didn't you pick up

(56:30):
one of those earlier and chunk itat the motherfucker. Yeah, I mean,
you know, it's it's kind ofweird. It's a weird thing to
share. But I'll tell you what, man, I have this sort of
like recurring it's not even a dream, it's like a recurring vision. Every
time I walk out the front doorof my house. I it's like I'm
I'm waiting for a cougar or amountain lion to have come down. Because

(56:52):
we don't live far from the mountainsin Burbank. I'm just like, one
of these days we have this likebig outdoor garbage area where everyone goes and
throws their trash and it's walled in, and I'm like, I'm waiting for
the day when there's enough raccoons andcoyotes in there to lure out a mountain
lion. And I'm waiting for theday that a fucking mountain lion is just

(57:14):
walking in front of my apartment whenI come out. And you know,
I've I've had I had friends whenthe fires happened a couple of years ago,
said that they had to shoot onein their yard because it came down
and was like attacking their dogs.Yeah. Yeah, people forget those things
are up there, man, Likethey're you're You're walking around in downtown Burbank

(57:35):
and you forget. You're like,you know less than you're probably three football
fields from families of mountain lions.Where I live in Maryland, there's not
We don't have like cougars, butwe have like coyotes, um, you
know, and they're they like oneof the one coyote. They're probably like
forty pounds. They're kind of bitchdogs, you know, but like when
they're in a pack, they're fuckingthey don't give a fuck, and they're

(57:58):
hungry usually too, so that wehad stray cats in my neighborhood. There's
no more stray cats because the coyoteseating them all. Um. So,
but then like they're in DC two, Like they're like they're coyotes coming in
DC, and we like to callthose politicians, but that's uh, they
that's neither here or there. Butlike they have the natural cities and coyotes

(58:20):
are coming into like the DC Baltimoretoo, because they're fucking hungry and the
cities are expanding out and destroying theirhabitat. But like, I like have
a like not a real like Iguess I kind of have a weird uh,
Like it gets pitch black dark inmy neighborhood and then before COVID,
I drive to work and I driveto Baltimore, and like I live in
a part where it's really pitch blackdark around here. Um there's no street

(58:44):
lights, no moonlight, nothing,So come outside, I'm always afraid,
like I'm gonna get jumped by thesecoyotes that they don't really they just kind
of come out and like you know, if I mean, if I make
a big gloud noise, they'll goaway because they're kind of like pussies,
you know, but like, Ijust have that thing. Then one of
my neighbors one year was like,yeah, you know, we saw a
bear not too long ago. I'mlike, I'm sorry, did you just

(59:07):
say a bear that? That's thecrazy thing about how difficult it is to
carry a gun in California is likeyou'd have to get a special sheriff's exemption
to carry a gun on your ownproperty. I think maybe I'm wrong to
carry it. Um, you know, if even if you lived in a
part like not far from here,if you go up to to Hunga canyon,
uh, that's all super rural.It's like ranch area properties and stuff.

(59:29):
So like if you lived up there, you would have you would probably
should carry a pistol on your propertyin the event that something like that shows
up. Whether my brother lives inSan Diego and he he's an animal control
officer and um, so he carriesso he knows because he gets the calls
when when somebody like me is like, there's a mountain lion in my garbage.

(59:51):
Yeah, he's had those calls before. Um, he's had coyotes,
he's had uh you know, otherlike I don't know. He said he
had a call of a bear.Fucking yeah, bears. I don't know,
I don't know what you want meto do with that, but a
bear can do what every fuck it. Once you call animal control for a
bear, they're like, listen,you are on your we don't do bears.

(01:00:14):
One of my friends sharks. They'relike, what do you want me
to do? Go in the waterand fight them all? Like, yeah,
exactly. And then one of myfriends was like, well, I
didn't even know they had bears inCalifornias, Like they literally have a fucking
bear on their flag. Yeah,it's a lot of bears. Yeah,
so especially in West Hollywood if you'veever been there, shit, yeah yeah,
uh yeah, oh yeah. Soone of our yeah, it was

(01:00:35):
one of our commenters here just saidthis. I'm in Arizona and I have
to carry when I walk my dogscoyotes and have a yeah have Alena pigs.
People don't think about wild pigs,dude, but Texas and shit has
those wild hogs that are fucking terrifying. Man, those things are huge.
Crazy person Tim Kennedy, that guy'sa psychopath, but he's hilarious but also

(01:00:57):
a psychopath. He was and Ilove him. The dead love listening to
him talk, but like he wastalking about he goes on these hunts with
it in a helicopter in Texas andjust mows down like with I guess,
um, I don't know if hesaid he used air fifteen, but he
was just they were just mowing downlike these like packs of wild hawks.
Yeah, Farrell hawks. And I'mlike, I didn't even He's like,

(01:01:19):
no, there's millions of them.Yeah, it's a it's a real problem.
And yeah, he's been on Rogantalking about that a couple times where
it's like they they He's like,we could kill a million a week and
we would still be you know,it's it's an exaggeration. And Rogan came
as soon as he said that,like Rogan was like, oh, yeah,
let's go do it. Yeah.He was like, I'll go pill
some pigs, go it. Yeahyeah, um yeah, it's it's that

(01:01:40):
shit is wild to me, man. I mean it's like, you know,
we very seldom do we find ourselvesin nature to the degree where we
understand and respect how fragile human lifeis and how quickly it could be taken
from you. And that is absolutelya sort of privilege of westernized civilization where
we live in these big cities,and you know, the thing you gotta

(01:02:02):
worry about is getting hit by acar or a truck or getting shot by
a straight bullet. You don't stopto think that there's also like grizzly bears
less than a mile from your doorstep, and for what who knows what chain
of events was sort of butterfly effected. Could well have you walking out your
your doorstep and finding a bear inyour people find them in their fucking pools
in La All the time I sawthat, I saw the dude like,

(01:02:24):
there's bears, like people showing bearsnot even like I thought this was like
a Laska. It turns out itwas just like somewhere in Pennsylvania where like
they sneak in your backyard, theygive your pools and you start blowing each
other a bunch of bear fucking likeyou know different, I'm not talking about
like gay bears and like porn hub. I'm talking about actual furry bears.

(01:02:45):
You know, like, well thoseare up too, Yeah yeah, yeah,
I definitely are. But so thebears, like I don't think things.
One this guy came up, thisbear came up, and they started
eating like they haven't. They werehaving an outdoor picnic in their backyard.
Air was like, ah, thisis mine now, so like, what
are you gonna do? That's likefive six hundred pound bear and he's like

(01:03:07):
that's like, oh you know,oh you live here. Cool, guess
what now I do? So yeah, yeah, I mean it's uh,
you know, it's that that's Ithink it's terrifying, But I also think
that's kind of good, Like itshould make people like you should appreciate the
fact that by being indoors and beingat home, you're you're safe and and
you know you've got to You've gotan added layer of safety that I think

(01:03:28):
sometimes we take for granted a lotof people. I mean, I mean
honestly not. I mean, it'skilled a lot of people, also saved
people from Darwinism, from like walkingoutside and getting hit by a fucking car.
Or yeah, it's it's it's interestingthat you said that too. The
other thing that was like, Idon't know how it was in the East
Coast, but um, like thefirst ninety days of COVID, so like

(01:03:49):
when June started or whatever, itwas like it was beautiful outside. The
air had never felt more fresh andclean. You know, the skies were
never bluer. It was literally likethirty days of like minimized emissions and travel
completely healed the atmosphere. And DavidAttenborough started talking, you know, like

(01:04:11):
he's just like, look at thebeautiful look at the beautiful trees that have
managed to grow back, and likesome people fucking in the middle of the
street and these two beautiful humans fuckingin the middle up the street. But
like he that like this Instagram accountI follow called Nature is Metal. Um,
you got to look it up.It's fucking cool. It's like they
get I know, these guys areand they take these photographs, beautiful photographs

(01:04:34):
of like nature at its finest.Like sometimes you'll see a line with a
gazelle hanging out of his mouth bloodied, and I'm like, how does Instagram
allowing this? But then I guessthey're out of the understanding of like,
hey man, this is nature,you know. So then Nature is Metal
has said multiple times listen, wecan whoa. People were like, WHOA,
how come you don't stop these animalsfrom killing these gazelles, And they

(01:04:58):
were like, we're messing up thenatural order of nature, you know,
like we can't do that. Yeah, like right, and in the animal
kingdom it doesn't work like that.There's no empathy, and who are we
to stop that? Well, youknow, there's a couple different schools.
The thoughts on that in terms ofpreservation is like, you know, do
you have to regulate, you know, as our human influence to sort of

(01:05:18):
regulate the amount of predator, youknow, killing things to the point of
extinction. Some people believe, yes. Some people believe like, if it
gets to the point where you haveyou know, predators in the wild that
are hunting species to the point ofextinction, then humans ability to kind of
push on that should be to youknow, kill some of those predators and

(01:05:41):
prevent them from extincting other species.But yes, to your point, that
is not the natural order of things. That is not that that does disrupt
the natural order of things. Andyou know, you could argue that the
technological advancements that human beings have madeover the last two hundred years we'll call
it, have actually stunted our evolutionbecause we are building technology to comfort us

(01:06:04):
and to make our lives easier,rather than being forced to evolve to nature.
So, you know, you couldthink about that concept a lot of
different ways, but I do thinkthat technology will slow evolution and definitely and
if anything, we will start toevolve into a far more fat you know,

(01:06:27):
slow intellectually smart, but physically dumband physically stunted. Everybody in the
western world. I think everybody onthe eastern plane will be fine. Um
maybe um, but like more thatgoes the point to like like going back
to like battling adversity and like neverhaving to deal with that, Like we
are living in this bubble that naturedoesn't live in. They animals battle,

(01:06:51):
you know, for their life everyday, whether even when you're a predator,
because the predator can started to death. There's not enough food right right
last week, even like we areour bodies biologically, like we're not immune
to again COVID happened and out ofnowhere and we weren't prepared. Like and
it's the same thing like when youwalk outside your door and you have the

(01:07:13):
fear of getting eating my amountain lime. Not saying that's gonna happen, but
it very well could if it ever. If it ever did, I would
be like, you know what,I predicted this. I would believe I
was psychic right before I died.I'm a super I knew this was as
he's eating your heart, but yeah, um yeah you just said that.
It made me think of this storeall the times Joe Rogan tells stories about

(01:07:38):
how bears eat people dick first dish. Yeah, yeah, they just go
crotch first. Well, yeah,that's what I was thinking today, like,
uh my, my, my littlepuppies. Like she's very nippy and
she's only like eight weeks old,but like she uh went for my son's
you know what, And I said, well, and I I would go,
yeah, well that's what animals do, and she goes, you know,

(01:07:59):
you want way too much. JoeRogan, I don't think that.
I think says she just was anaccident, Like, no, that's what
animals because said bro science, broscience. And like, you know,
I'm not one of those guys thatgo, yeah, Joe Rogan is guy,
but you know, like, uh, like I make fun of guys
like that who are just like yeah, man, who've just been really into
Rogan? And uh I listen towhose podcast? You know it really makes
sense? And like do you listento it? Because remember do you listen

(01:08:23):
to it for his guests? Yeah, well I think you know, I
think, uh, I think ultimatelythe thing about Rogan is that it's really
good because I do think it introducesand has introduced a lot of people to
shit they otherwise would have not evertaken interest in and not ever learned anything
about. So you know, it'ssort of like, uh, his show

(01:08:45):
is kind of like smart Subjects forDummies, and it's like it no,
I mean, it's like it's itmakes information that otherwise seems unaccessible or disinteresting
to you accessible and interesting. Andso like I never, I never in
a million years would think to lookup a sleep scientist. And that episode
he had with that guy Um isprobably the most impactful episode I've heard in

(01:09:10):
a long time. Because I watchedit was like, oh my god,
I didn't realize how much my mypoor sleep has affected my biology for the
last probably twenty five years. Yeah, and that that makes sense because like
me with nutrition, because like RondaPatrick was on there, and when she's
on, I'm like, I'm glued, um, but this is my my

(01:09:31):
neanderthal brain, like I'm when Iwas glued to her, but I was
just like, you know, whenothers come on, like Neil to grass
Tyson, that was pretty cool.Then Mike Tyson was on there and I'm
like, I'm like literally want tobe in the fucking camera, like this
is how broke, Like, Yeah, I gotta watch I gotta watch that
one in the Roy James's terrifying,literally fucking terrifying anything Halloween movie you see,

(01:09:51):
not as terrifying as Mike Tyson,who's ready to go to fucking war.
Well before we well, before weget out of here, let me
get your thoughts on that. Whodo you I think is gonna win that
fight between Tyson and Roy Jones Jr. So me growing up in the nine
late nineties, Like Roy Jones Juniorwas the king of the middle weights and
the light heavy ways, but henever faced anyone quite as terrifying and physically

(01:10:15):
imposing and skilled as Mike Tyson.And Mike Tyson is a different There's a
once in a lifetime kind of guythat trickles down from the heavens and enters
this body where it's like I callit, Mike Tyson was a perfect storm,
right, and well, I thinkso much of it is mental for
a perfect storm that came from povertyin Brownsville, New York. And then

(01:10:39):
he had this old white guy thattrained him and put the hypnotized him basically
be believing that he was the greatestof all time at twelve years old prost
Post Juvenile Detention Center. And itwas just, like I said, a
perfect storm. He packed on allthis muscle at fourteen. He looked like
twenty five year old grown man andhe's just killing people. And like Roy
Jones has never ever faced anything quitelike that in his career. And I

(01:11:02):
think, and I don't think likeRoy Jones is probably thinking, no,
it's just an exhibition. Mike Tysondoes not think this is an exhibition.
He may say that to Rogan.He knows this. I know it's an
exhibition, but it's not he know, like he's like in his brain's like,
as soon as they step on thoseropes, I'm going to war.
And I think that's the Mike Tysonthat shows up, and I think it's
gonna be an. I think he'son knocking out in the first round.
Yeah, I mean it's uh,you know, it'll be interesting too,

(01:11:25):
because there are some people that thinkthat Tyson is in such amazing shape and
it's so mentally carved that the Dukecould actually make a run for a title.
He could, he said that hewon't. But like that, when
that you start to get that itch. You know, because when I had
my first fight and uh, youknow, it was an exhibition, but
like I you know, I didokay, but I didn't do as well

(01:11:46):
as I thought. And I'm like, you know, a month later,
I got the itch. I waslike, shit, I can actually do
this for a career. I cankeep going. I'm like, wait,
Matt, you're thirty six, whatthe fuck are you talking about? But
so right, yeah, that butlike he's getting ideas where he's fifty three
years old, and I'm like,dude, like it's like a good point
that Rogan said to one of hisfriends. He's like, do you when
you're growing up, did you eversee a fifty three year old man look

(01:12:08):
like that? I know I havehim. They all had beer bellies.
Like I'm looking, I'm looking atmy dad who's sixty. He is a
beer belly. You know, yeah, yeah exactly. So you know it's
you know, I really think theage the age is just a number.
Thing is becoming more and more trueevery day with science, with with what
we know about nutrition, with whatwe know about what do we know about
the human body? I mean,yeah, I think we're gonna get to

(01:12:30):
a point where, you know,I think in fifty years time, it's
not going to be unheard of fora human to live over one hundred and
twenty years old. And I thinkthat's how we combat this complacency we get
with technology, as we previously discussed, I think that's how we combat that.
Like if like humans are gonna befat and lazy, I think if
we have a better understanding nutrition andgenetics um and plus like I would say

(01:12:51):
even more of a like um Hollyused like that's like stem cells like stuff
like that for like repairment and growthand recovery, we can and next it
the years we're gonna be superhuman andhopefully we don't become like it wasn't Wally
where the humans were like being movedaround by robots or whatever. Right right,
Yeah, I think it'll be good. I think it'll be good as

(01:13:12):
far as uh as far as fightsgo. Well, you and I had
a good back and forth about Coastto Atasanya that that ended up going the
way I thought it went, wentthe way I thought earlier than than what
I had predicted. I thought itwas gonna go I thought he was gonna
beat the shit out of him tireamount for five rounds, and I thought
it was going to go to decisionand Atasania was gonna win on points I

(01:13:34):
didn't even you know, I didn'tthink for a second that that Costa would
not have been able to take thoseleg kicks and that they were as devastating
to him as they were and basicallywere what led to the end of the
fight. I mean, I gottaI'm gonna break it down because they I
don't know a lot of your audiencesif they are maybe new may or don't

(01:13:56):
Yeah, maybe probably casual. Idon't think I've so there's nothing about that
I think generates any kind of significantBut but for people that you know,
you talk about it a lot onyour podcast, I'll plug your podcast.
Actually, that's not it. Ilooked it up and that's not your your
handle, it is uh this,Um yeah, there we go. There's

(01:14:19):
the link for your podcast. Um, so people can Yeah, that's what
you don't even know that. No, I didn't know I had an s
R. I must have looked thatup. That must have been an error.
Yeah, maybe, Um I lookedit up and that's what popped up.
So it's weird, Okay, yeah, because I think that's where No,

(01:14:41):
No, it's right, that's weirdwhen it's on our SR that.
No, it was right the firsttime. Yeah, I was like,
I was like, I am asenior because I'm the only one. But
uh, that's what the SR itis. Just that that's weird. Yeah,
so I phone is lying to me. So yeah, and you talk
about MMA. I think on yourpodcast a lot more than I do.
So if people are interested in that, they should check out your podcast.

(01:15:02):
Just the you know, the elaborateon like the leg kicks real quick,
like how he was able to effectivelyuse them like leg kicks are. People
don't understand. They're like, oh, he's just leg kicking with that.
Let's some pussy shit. Let meexplain to you that a normal average person
can only take about you ever beenCharlie Horst, You can only take about
three or four to that inner meetright there, and before you can't walk

(01:15:26):
the next day. So costa headwith anybody who's ever had bad shin splints.
If you ever went on a vicioushike and you had bad shin splints
the next day. You know howpainful lower leg pain. Most army veterans,
most veterans have that shin splints becauseof running. But like yeah,
so like he kicks you there,you're unable to actually pivot to throw power
punches. You can't move against thecage around. You can't do you can't

(01:15:49):
circle around, you can't and there'sno power, there's some functionality. You
can't run away, and he's he'sdead to right, You're dead to rights.
And that's what he did. Thatwas his game. And just take
the legs out. He can't move, Bam, knockout. And I didn't
expect the Autosania to knock him out. But also don't think the Costa,
the consta I was used to seeingfight Yoo, Romero didn't even show up.

(01:16:11):
I think Israel out of Sonia hassneaky Connor McGregor power. Like Connor
McGregor is very wiry, very thinand doesn't look powerful, but I think
his technique is so solid that it'snot that he's hitting you hard, it's
that he's hitting you flush, andhe's hitting you square where it matters.
He's precision over hundred to kickboxing fights. Before he came to Mma. I

(01:16:33):
mean he is a tactician. Hesaid it himself. He's like everybody has
power. He's like, but whatI have his precision? And I was
like, yeah, but you knowwhat, you have never faced a guy
like Costa. And then then hefought then Autosania fought Yoo Romero, who's
like a carbon copy, and Iwas like, oh wait, Yoel's not
very tactically sound in neither his Costa. He's just like just swing for the

(01:16:55):
fucking fences. And then right,and then when you said, like,
I think he's gonna pick him hard, take him to and I was like
maybe, because I think Costa landsone. He didn't even he didn't even
throw one punch. Yeah, hegot he got uh, he just got
embarrassed. And then to add insultto injury, got dry hump embarrassed at

(01:17:15):
the end of the fight. Hilarious, hilarious. I laugh. I became
an instant Atisania fan, right,I've been an Israel fan for a while.
I think he's great. I thinkhe's great for the sport. I
think this, I think he's Ithink he I think he can be for
the sport. Everything. John Joneswas supposed to be and fucked up by
making all kinds of mistakes out ofthe cage issues. Jones like, you

(01:17:36):
know, well, I'll tell youwhat what people don't understand because everyone's saying
that's the super fight to make ittwo oh five is Adisania and John Jones,
that that would probably break all thepay per view records. What what
I'll tell you is if John Jonestakes those leg kicks, he'll never walk
again. But I also think thatJohn Jones is gonna do what I think

(01:17:57):
he's gonna do. He's gonna holdHe's gonna take an out of sign you
to the ground and try to riphis fucking arms off. Yeah, I
mean that, I think he's gonnatry to. But what I don't think
people realize is Israel is faster thanJones was in his prime and Jones is
in his third. So, youknow you people said the same thing about
Costa. They said he's gonna holdhim, he's gonna take him down,
He's gonna hold him down, andhe's gonna rip him apart. The difference

(01:18:20):
is is Jones has the ability toto overcome is he's length, because he's
actually taller than that of Sonia buyabout an inch. I think, yeah,
but he's he I mean, Jonesis very fast, definitely not faster
than absolutely not fast. And Ithink, I don't know, man,
I think if I think Jones wouldfight the smart fight, yeah, but

(01:18:45):
you remember Jones. That was whatJones was supposed to do against Gustafson,
and he didn't and that ended upbeing one of the greatest fights of he
stood. He stood with Gustafson andalmost I mean some people thought he lost
that fight. Honestly believed this daybecause I'm a huge gust was the same
fan because like because him and Iare like the same build, same height,

(01:19:06):
same weight like I me or we'reboth lanky and long, and I
kind of have a leak of stylelike using my jab like he does.
Um, so I was like,man, I really want this is but
the tall guys, you know,like let's do it. And then like
he just a champ. There wasa champ's advantage, man, and that
just sucks with the with judges anddude, think about judges. There it
was the same thing happened. Itwas the same thing happened in the ray

(01:19:29):
As fight. I thought Ray haswon that fight. By far and yeah,
you know it's like it's it's prettyclear that guys like no one like
a John Jones is ever gonna losethat belt. Lets you take it from
it. It was the same thingwith you j Young Jaycheck was never gonna
lose that belt until somebody took itfrom her. She's never gonna losewis doctor
out A girl can like like peoplesay that, like I hate the how

(01:19:53):
like people shit on women like femalefighting. I honestly would, I honestly
would watch a female fight over anyway. Rose Domiunis. Let me let me
just I'll step out on the legendsay this with my quote unquote expert ape.
And I love when people are you'refat, you don't do martial arts,
you don't know Listen, I've beenwatching MMA since nineteen ninety. Okay,
I fucking I can name I couldprobably name you two hundred fighters you've

(01:20:16):
never fucking heard of, right,So, like, I study the shit.
I know, I know football too, I didn't play that in fucking
college. But like I I cantell you this, no one in MMA
has better timing and footwork than Rosenmiunis. No one in the entire sport man
or woman. Rose Noomi Unis hasthe best footwork in the entire sport of

(01:20:42):
mixed martial arts. I would agreewith that. The way that she slipped
in and out, in and out, in and out, and and she
did it to young Jay Check,who's arguably the most prolific striker in women's
MMA history, and she danced aroundher and knocked her the fuck out.
And the footwork is what is whyshe will beat Jengguilee, Because jeng Lie
will try to bowl rush Rose,she will sidestep, she will circle.

(01:21:05):
Her footwork will get her out ofdanger. And I think she's gonna beat
Jenguelee by head kick uh in oneof the first two by in one of
the first two rounds. Yeah,I think so because because uh, it's
unexpected. I think jean Ulee isnot gonna think she's not She's gonna think
that she's not gonna throw kicks becauseshe doesn't want to get taken down,

(01:21:26):
because she didn't throw kicks against Andraje. But she did androge in that last
fight what she was doing to herin the first fight. Yeah, and
she just got fucked up in thatclinch and got you know, slammed and
knocked out and Androge is a bigstrong girl man. Yeah, but I
mean if like rosemomi Unis could literallywin that belt back fight twenty more times
and never take any damage for therest of her career. No like she

(01:21:50):
she it is. I watched herand I was like, Muhammad Ali would
have trouble boxing Rosemami units because ofher footwork. The best seen pure boxing
is best I've seen just nutfuck womenjust like and women a white with her
long legs, her ability to closethe distance. I mean, she looks

(01:22:10):
like a fucking computer and she lookslike her her mental how mentally likes it's
there now. It's they're like mentallytapped in to to some I don't know,
some form of weird fucking hypnosis.It's the focus. She's got this
weird next level of focus and andand I think you liked my comment when
on her last fight we watched it, I was like, she's she's got

(01:22:32):
the best corner in MMA because themixture between her husband Pat, I don't
know if they're married, but herhusband and head coach Pat and Trevor is
like this perfect yin and yang ofthe right amount of the right amount of
constructive criticism and the right amount ofemotional support they up without giving her to
the don't beat her down, andthat's what you need in a corner.

(01:22:54):
Dude, she is. I meanshe is when she's laser because I think
the only reason she ever lost anyfights in her care was because she didn't
have that level of focus at all. And then when she got to that
level, when she got to thatlevel of focus and realized that she is
the greatest in the world and believesit, Oh my god, such a
cond like difference, man, Becausewhen she was on The Ultimate Fighter,

(01:23:16):
she had long hair and she wouldget like make up and then she would
like do her eyebrows, and shewas all about like doing what you know
what Valerie Lareda does or what's hername, Paige ben Zan, you know
one future only only fangirls um.But then like she's like, fuck this
shit, I'm a goddamn monk,and she shaved her head and Pat Barry

(01:23:36):
got Pat Barry got to hold over, and I mean he was great in
his own right as well, butuh, like she just tapped in and
focused and became like something different,completely different, and she said fuck all
that um fuck, all that youknow, superficial shit. I'm here,
I'm a fighter. This is whatI am bred to do, born to
do. Yeah, and I've seenwhen I seen her when JJ was JJ

(01:23:57):
is a shit talker and she's greatat it, even though it's in like
broken English slash polish. Um.She's like talking shit at the stair down
and Rose just doesn't even know nothing, just stoic. Wait, I get
goose bumps washing her fight because I'venever seen anyone so um perfect like she's

(01:24:20):
right now. She is perfection personifiedfor an MMA fighter. And I don't
see any hole in her game.I don't see there is, you know.
And and I think the fight betweenher and Jean Whaley might go down
is the greatest MMA fight of alltime because I think it's gonna be I
think Jean Wealey is gonna be ableto take the ass whooping for all five

(01:24:41):
rounds. Um. And I thinkif if if Rose does finish her,
it's gonna be something spectacular like ahead kick. Yeah. I like she's
gonna get her belt back. Ihave a feeling. Um, my favorite
female fighter right now is the Valentinehim the bullet oh she's a beast,
she's sun an animal, and Ilove to see I'd love to see.
Uh. What I'd love to seeis if Rose beats what's her name in

(01:25:03):
one twenty five. I'd like toYoung fight Valentine. I don't know how
that would go down because so technically, like she's tech, like how Rose
is with her hands, Valentina iswith her feet, you know, and
and her her her wrestling and grappling, and it's just toughness. Man,
Is there a way we can getall Is there a way we can get

(01:25:25):
all three of them to fight eachother at the same time? Yeah,
yes, that's what we need,man, ladders and chairs, matt Um.
It's been awesome, dude, beenawesome finally getting you on the show.
Thank you so much for it.We'll have you. I'll have you
back home. We'll do this,we'll maybe we'll make this a Reglar thing.
We'll do this like once a monthor whatever. Man'd be great,
But I gotta I haven't eaten allday. I gotta go get some food

(01:25:46):
to me, you know, becauseobviously I'm starving. Yeah, it's also
three hours, but you're always bethree hours behind, so I get Yeah,
we're getting right in the dinner timefor me, bro, my favorite
time of the day. Well,thanks so much, man, you got
anything you want to plug before weget out of here. Um, just
check on my podcasting podcast on Twitter. What's that? Yeah? Twitter at
mein podcast? Um, I'm oniTunes. I'm on YouTube as well,

(01:26:08):
um, both video and audio,and look out share my tweets and sometimes
I say funny shit. Yeah man, check it out and hopefully once we
get back to comedy, man,we can do something. I get out
to these coasts, dude, thatwould be That would be brilliant. I'd
love that, awesome brother. Allright, have a good one man,
All right, man, take iteasy. Yeahin hand over hand too scared

(01:26:45):
to look down over this bunch betweenI and I and I the time want

(01:27:05):
to be better. Let one timeuly fall. But I don't know.
Nothing can't be better. Let onetime usually fall. Who you should ask
somebody? Because I've got nothing tolose. Tonight I misplaced my life to

(01:27:26):
night she started my friends? Whoaway tonight? I don't say the right
things I thought blood the right way. That's just not mean. I listen
to my music too and watch toomuch Stamp

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