Dave Weinbaum Show- August 22, 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:16):
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While one has to give George Washington a lot of
credit and the other patriots for their vigilance in writing
a constitution that has lasted for more than two hundred
and fifty years despite the attacks upon it, we haven't
seen this original independent talent until these last ten years.

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Many wrote off Trump as an insignificant businessman who, like
most of us in commerce, like me, have their ups
and downs, part of the complications thrown upon them by
ever growing cancer of non elected people bordering sometimes ruling

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US towards socialism and communism. As Trump ascended in twenty
fifteen to be the GOP candidate, something went off in
the heads of the minds of the deep Swamp and
the Democrats. They feared Trump, detesting him openly his simple

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message of make America great again. They took that as
a dagger to communism they had been brewing for the
last one hundred and twenty years. They tried to assassinate Trump.
They tried to financially break him and jail him for

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life or until they could have arranged for him to
be assassinated in jail like Epstein. Why it's because Trump
isn't just a popular president with a passion for ordinary citizens.
Every time he goes to a foreign to foreign nations,

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he's the center of attention. It doesn't get any better
than the leader of NATO referring to Donald Trump as
his daddy.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Just to get everybody on the same page. Why wouldn't
Trump just take the call from Putin while the other
leaders were in the room.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
He said it would be disrespectful to do that.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
But why is it disrespectful?

Speaker 5 (04:03):
With all due respect, only a reporter from the New
York Times would ask a question like that, Sean, The
President met with all of these European leaders at the
White House. Forty eight hours after sitting down with President
putin on American soil. In fact, there was so much
progress that every single one of them got on a
plane forty eight hours later and flew to the United
States of America. These leaders, who this war is in

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their backyard, are very grateful that the President took that
call and that he was there to provide them with
a readout of Russia's thinking on this, something that was
not done by the previous administration at all.

Speaker 6 (04:36):
The point is to get.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Okay, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Dave Weinbaum Show.
You'll have my picture up just a side. We're experimenting
with stuff. Okay, we're trying to get these live videos
on instead of watching some guy and sitting there like
this and he's talking. No, we're going to try to
get live video on this, so bear with us. We're
working on a and anything we can do, just a

(05:02):
bit to improve the show a little bit. Every time
we were on and I got JP working on it,
and I got Rick Henderson, the guy does all the
bits and clips down there in Sale, Missouri, and let's
do this. You know, I mean, I'm a believer, and
you try to, you try to, you try to advance

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things a little bit every day, a little bit better
than it was the day before. It doesn't always work,
sometimes you go a little backwards, but you always got
to try to give the momentum and listen to your brain,
listen to God, God, and have tell God, please please
guide us to what we think we can do and

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different ways of doing it. You look at a guy
like Elon Musk. All he's doing is thinking out of
the box and he's doing what he can do to improve.

Speaker 6 (05:58):
Things for others.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Forget his political deal right now, I think they're coming
out of that. I think you him and Trump are
going to be buddies again. But let's let me let
me tell you about this show. We're overbooked. It's getting
to the point where and I had the show booked
almost a week ago. That's the amazing thing about this.

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It just just happened recently like this. We got JJ
Bradshaw coming on at eight ten, we got the Rabbi
coming on at eight forty. We've got Chris Adamo at
nine thirty, we've got well, actually at nine o'clock, we
have I forgot even even mentioned him, Bill Hardwick, and

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we have my lovely wife here finally at eight oh six. Yes,
she's a little late and made me a wonderful, wonderful
sandwich this morning, comprised of.

Speaker 7 (06:57):
You know.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Now we'll tell the audience, I'm proud of you. It's
really good stuff. Anyways, So she's not gonna say it,
but it was a lox bagel with everything on it
and onion sauted onions, tomatoes she grew in the backyard,
cream cheese. Oh my god, it was good. Anyways, I'm
still picking. I don't know things out of my mouth.

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Actually I brush them out. I have to brush my
teeth really good because the poppy seeds, you know, they
stick to your teeth. Anyways, you didn't need to know that, probably,
but what the hell. So we got JJ coming on,
we got Rabbi Mosche from Israel. We've got Bill Hardwick
coming on at nine, Chris Adamo at nine point thirty,

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Willis Bob Willis at ten. And this is going to
be a big one here. This is from Hawaii. Melendez,
Michelle Melendez from Hawaii, and she's gonna tell us everything
that's gonna we need to know about what really happened
in Hawaii and how this is comparable to the La fires,

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and she's talking about people and animals were somehow.

Speaker 6 (08:18):
Burned from the inside out.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
This is really weird stuff, but there's a lot of
weird stuff that's going on in the world today, and
especially in California and Hawaii. All right, So other than that,
the phone number is five seven three, five seven eight
twenty seven hundred, or.

Speaker 8 (08:44):
You can also reach us on Facebook, x YouTube and
also on Rumble.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
So we're gonna be run real hard today after a while.
And I probably should do a commercial, shouldn't I.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
Well, we got JJ coming on in a minute.

Speaker 6 (08:58):
Yeah, that's true. All right.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Well we'll wait on that and then I'll tell you
some of the stuff. Well, we just had a news
blurb that the X, the ex security guy for Donald
Trump and him was did I get the wrong patriot?

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And I didn't.

Speaker 6 (09:24):
Oh was arrested. It wasn't arrested, but he was.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
They they they they went to his house and they
took a bunch of things that are allegedly.

Speaker 6 (09:39):
Classified.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
And his name, I gotta think of his names, his
name John Bolton. Yeah, thank you, see, honey, very good,
very good. Why am I looking at this and it's
not there? Maybe it's because it's in the wrong page.
All right, Well, anyways, I've got a handsome fellow looking
at me and and looks like he's lost weight or something,

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but he is. He's two and fifty seven years old, right,
and he is an expert. He's an expert on the Constitution.
And he actually hung out with people like Thomas Jefferson
and George Washington and Ben Franklin at these taverns up

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and up in Virginia. Actually was only one tavern in Virginia,
the year Old Tavern, and they pick up pioneer women
and and that's how old this guy is. And he
had a lot to do with the Constitution. So please
welcome all the way from Rolla, Missouri, John Jeffrey Bradshaw,

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And oh there, mister Bradshaw's what's on your mind?

Speaker 9 (10:56):
Oh Dave, what a week this has been? Yeah, you
and I, You and I are drowning and stuff.

Speaker 6 (11:01):
Here.

Speaker 9 (11:04):
Let's just start off. Barack Hussein Obama I just verified
this morning had his security clearance removed by the Director
of National Intelligence. I saw the flash last night. I
had to verify it this morning. Always get two sources.

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Sock Hussein Obama is out of the loop now, and
good that's one less communist messing around in our government.

Speaker 6 (11:36):
And he's the guy.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Let me just say this, People need to be reminded
that there was no Russian interference claimed by our government
agencies until after the twenty sixteen election, when Barack Obama
did it on his own in light about the Russia

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gait thing and lighted along with Hillary and a bunch
of others. But he was the one that pushed this through,
trying to eventually overturn the twenty sixteen election and failing that,
keeping this lie going until after the twenty twenty six

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or twenty two election, and then even after that after
this election.

Speaker 9 (12:29):
Let's not forget the thirty seven people that he had
in collusion with him.

Speaker 6 (12:35):
Right.

Speaker 9 (12:36):
So, Dave, this is something I've been waiting for for
the longest time. You and I talked about this right
after Trump was elected, before he was sworn in. Now,
one of the first things he would do was Yank's
security clearances on people and low and behold, this has happened.
It's taken a few months, but you know, the wheels

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of justice to grind along fairly slowly. But yeah, you
know John Bolton losing his and by the way.

Speaker 10 (13:05):
When they.

Speaker 9 (13:07):
Entered Bolton's house this morning, they didn't have the swat
team like they did with Donald Trump. They didn't have
a perp walk. This was done the way it should
be done, fairly, quietly, with FBI agencies, no drawn guns.
This is a class act, and the previous ministration was

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not a class act. It was slimy.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Well, you know, they took away the clearance from Biden,
but that was mostly just the autopens.

Speaker 9 (13:44):
Well, they took Biden's clearance, but let's face it, Biden
doesn't understand what day it is and can't find me.

Speaker 6 (13:51):
That's why they didn't see the autopens.

Speaker 9 (13:54):
Someone that's got loose around the edges really shouldn't have
top secret compartmentalized security clearance to begin with. So yay,
I'm so glad to see this happening in our government.
It's about damn time. What do you say we talk
about Judge Boseburg? You remember him? Oh sure, this clown

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that really stuck his neck out and he just got
it broken. The constitution allows that the president has authority
over international relationships, that is, our relationships with other countries.
Boseburg decided, well, I'm getting ahead of myself. Donald Trump

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used the Alien Enemies Act and the Immigration and Nationalities
Act to deport a bunch of trend de Agua gang members,
if you remember, they put him on a plane and
sent him south. Boseburg issued a temporary restraining order saying,
you can't do that, you got to fly. I am back.

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The Supreme Court on April seventh said no, no, no,
you have stuck your neck out in this thing. You
are meddling in the foreign relations of the United States
of America, which is exclusively the purview of the President
of the United States. Boseburg got his hands slapped on
that one. But it gets worse, or as they used

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to say in the commercials, but it gets better, Bozburg.
There is a movement among other judges within the district
courts to remove him for cause because he has done
these outrageous things. Well, as long as we're beaten up
judges and prosecutors, What about our buddy, Letitia James, How

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about that the Appeals Court and you and I said
this was going to happen. Yeah, the Appeals Court kicked out.
The fine on Donald Trump was almost five hundred million
at this point.

Speaker 6 (15:58):
I think it was above that.

Speaker 9 (15:59):
Actually a million. Yesterday, Uh appeals court kicked it out.
Why because of the eighth Amendment of the Constitution, which
prohibits excessive punishment. I think in the constitutions called cruel
and unusual punishment. This would be the unusual.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Part of that.

Speaker 9 (16:20):
Yeah, five hundred million bucks, that's half a billion dollars.
And yeah, this is a pretty rich guy. But you
and I would be squealing if this happened to us.
And we said, as soon as that thing happened, this
is going to get kicked out on appeals and it did.
Leticia James, stubborn, ignorant woman that she is, vows to

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appeal that.

Speaker 6 (16:47):
Yeah, good luck.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yeah, she'd be fighting her own problems with with a
little bit of fraud of her own.

Speaker 6 (16:55):
Yes.

Speaker 9 (16:55):
And thea was, this is the woman that appears to
be guilty of what she prosecuted Donald J.

Speaker 6 (17:04):
Trump exactly.

Speaker 9 (17:06):
Doesn't this just blow you away? David, this is karma?
Well yeah, but you know, happen to be a Buddhist,
I would be saying that this is karma big time.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
They did this in the first place to get rid
of Trump. They thought, no way this guy's gonna last.
You know, they figured they'd get him impeached or somehow,
and he wouldn't run again. Uh, and he did, and
then he got beat and then they still carried on
the same stories about Trump, how horrible he was, how

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he was tied in with Putin and Russia and all this.
And now they didn't understand that keeping this alive also
kept the term limits alive on the cases that they
may be brought up up against them if they continue

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doing it. And guess what, they're still doing it. They're
still doing it.

Speaker 6 (18:03):
They don't know.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
They're crazy, they're nuts, they don't know what they're doing.
Now they've completely blown it.

Speaker 9 (18:10):
The people that gave these folks advice, I'm sure, never
believed that this would go that far. Exact, I'm sure
that they thought Trump would either be in jail or
give up and say, hey, take this, I don't need
any more of this headache. Donald Trump didn't give up.
And the folks that gave the advice to these conspirators,

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if you will, we're sure this thing was going to
go away. You mentioned statute of limitations five years, seven years,
and ten years on the federal level, depending on the
severity of the crime. They never thought this would get
this far. They thought this would be buried, swept under
the rug. We get a Democrat in the House or
in the executive branch, is all going to go away?

Speaker 6 (18:54):
Sure?

Speaker 9 (18:54):
What if that happened and this thing blew up in
their face? Dave got the conspiracy still occurring to this day,
at this minute, all of that dirt from so many
years ago is now valid to be used as evidence
against them. I can hardly wait.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
The mainstream media is becoming very critical of who the
Democratic Party. I mean, you know these these guy who's
the guy on TV that has his own show, and
he's he's been around anybody, anybody, anybody or no, it's
a mayor, mayor, and he's he's taken on uh yeah,

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and he's taken on Newsom where as Trump calls him Newscomb. Yeah,
and he says, he says, this guy's an idiot.

Speaker 6 (19:48):
He can't run, he can't run anything except his mouth.

Speaker 9 (19:52):
As long as we're talking about Newsom. Yeah, and moron's
in the Democrat Party.

Speaker 11 (19:57):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (19:58):
Texas just passed the set tech Senators voting yeah redistrict rum,
which will amount to approximately five new seats Republican health seats.

Speaker 6 (20:08):
Okay.

Speaker 9 (20:08):
Newsom has said we're going to do the same thing
in California. We're going to offset this thing. Well, California
has a commission, this is by law in California that
does redistricting every ten years, and it's actually occurs a
year after the census data is released. Newsom said, no, no, no,

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we're going to scrap all of that. We're going to
change all this. We're going to get five more Democrats seats. Well,
I was looking at some data the other day, and
you know there's a whole bunch of Californians that are Republicans.
They're only represented by eight percent. Exactly why due to

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jerry mandering of course. So Newsom, idiot that he is,
This is a man that he's not as bad as
Joe Biden because Joe can't find the restroom. Newsom's got
great looking hair. But the man is a terrible politician.
He's going to get slapped down in the courts. It's
going to happen.

Speaker 6 (21:13):
Now.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
You know what, He's not a terrible politician, he's a
terrible he's a terrible person.

Speaker 6 (21:19):
He's a terrible person. As a politician.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
He can get votes because he's a he looks good
and he's got as your point, and we're both bald.

Speaker 12 (21:28):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (21:29):
He has good hair, I mean, come on, you know.

Speaker 9 (21:31):
Well, yeah, obviously that's one of the qualifications to be
governor of California. Yeah, nice hair, Rob. But the people
are though he was actually considerably better than that.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
God is God has arranged this so that so that
we could tell the difference. You know, I don't know
how how much anyone believes that the twenty twenty election these.

Speaker 6 (21:54):
Days was legit.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
There's there's got to be You got to be a
total idiot or just blind to any of the evidence
that's pounding on our doors every single day, more and
more and more of it says that that election election
was fixed and that was supposed to be the end
of Trump, okay. And what it did was, though it

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showed you what the Biden Obama administration really was about.

Speaker 6 (22:24):
It was really.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
About taking government and making us prisoners of things like
COVID diseases and things like that. And couldn't object to
any of that, couldn't hardly object about anything without getting
your business closed and stuff like.

Speaker 6 (22:42):
I mean, it's just terrible stuff. And it exposed them
to the point that Trump, with a simple message of
common sense, common sense and using the o Maga phrase
make America great again? Which what what? How could that

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be bad? As?

Speaker 2 (23:04):
And they're talking like people. People know that that's not evil.
They know that they're not stupid. So we're not stupid.
We elected this guy and it just shot down at them.
They don't know what to do.

Speaker 9 (23:20):
It blew them away. Their approval ratings are tanked.

Speaker 6 (23:24):
And what can they do? What are they going to
do now? What?

Speaker 2 (23:28):
What issue are they going to come up with other
than the guy in uh Mirandi or something like that
in calif In in New York City running for mayor
saying well, we we we will take over the grocery
stores and the police. And he's had to bite those
words down a lot because of what's happening to the

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police in New York. So it's it's it's an incredible thing.
And he's gonna he's cleaning it up in DC right
now and New York is probably next.

Speaker 9 (24:01):
Isn't that wonderful?

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Oh my god? And the people of it. The liberals
love being able to go out in DC without being
afraid of the car being stolen, without being afraid of
them being held up outside of a restaurant. I mean,
how do you live like that? You don't live well, well,
you live at home. Yeah, we may not live at home.

Speaker 9 (24:25):
Speaking of our executive branch being manned by somebody who
is substantially more powerful than the predecessor, what about Putin
and the European leaders who came over here and had
a little talk about the war in Ukraine? Consider this,
Donald Trump gave them a phone call and forty eight

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hours later they showed up on our doorstep.

Speaker 6 (24:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (24:50):
Do you think they would have done that with Biden?

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Hell no, no, hell no, they and they raised This
is a lot of are NATO countries. I don't know
if all of them was NATO, but the majority, Yeah,
the majority was NATO. But NATO because of Trump raised
what they were paying into NATO by they more than
doubled it. Okay, it was like it's five thousand, five thousand,

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five million dollars or five billion, I don't know, five
million dollars each or five billion dollars each.

Speaker 9 (25:23):
But it went from two percent of their GDP to
five percent.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yeah, exactly. I mean that's that's substantial. And they're and
now they're following him around like like they're little puppy.

Speaker 9 (25:35):
Dogs like puppy dogs.

Speaker 6 (25:36):
Yeah, my dog, he's my my, he's my daddy.

Speaker 13 (25:41):
You know.

Speaker 9 (25:41):
Donald Trump said to them quietly, not for public consumption.
We have been funding this thing for decades, and we're
not going to fund it anymore.

Speaker 6 (25:53):
Exactly.

Speaker 9 (25:54):
So, if you would like the protection of the United
States of America, you NATO country, it's time to start
shelling it out. Or when you have a problem, say
from Russia, for instance, we're not going to help you.
And they said, you know, I think this guy means business.
His predecessors didn't. His predecessors were fools. But this guy is.

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He's dealing the cards from a position of power, and
they recognize that. Allelujah, Dave. We've needed this for so
very long.

Speaker 6 (26:27):
I mean so long. Wow.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
I mean, I just can't believe. I can't believe how
things have turned around. I mean, I read my columns
from twenty fifteen and about you know, figuring out that
Obama early on is a communists. He's a blatant, utter
communist who favors the the killers of people like Commas.

Speaker 9 (26:56):
Look at his mentor Jeremiah Wright. Yeah, way back when
when you and I were talking about Jeremiah Right. I
shard a little bit of in depth study on his clown,
and he is a Marxist, bigoted, hate, race bating person.
He's evil throughout. And this was a guy Obama learned from.

Speaker 6 (27:19):
But he's he's a preacher, he's a minister.

Speaker 9 (27:22):
Well, I'll bet you and Nickel that God doesn't claim
to him. Well, then I tossed another one in here, Dave.

Speaker 6 (27:30):
We're going to run one more, one more because I
this morning.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
You know, I got to kind of keep the clock
going because I have one extra guy in there somehow,
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (27:39):
About three minutes. And that's what this go ahead, Go ahead,
our buddy Adam Schiff. Now, if you remember the the
impeachment trial in the House of Representatives, Adam Schiff was
the standard bearer for Russia. Russia, Russia. Our president is
colluded with the Rusians and everything is bad. Democracy is

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going to die, Okay, Adam Schiff and all of us
knew this guy was a clown. All of US conservatives
anyway were looking at him and saying, where did they
get this moron? Well, those those have turned too. It's
karma again, makes you want to convert to Buddhism. Adam
Schiff is now being investigated for a leaking classified information

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to his buddies in the press, and apparently they have
found some memos that make it look like he sure
as heck did that number two two counts of mortgage fraud.
Sounds like Letitia James all over again. This is a
guy that claims his primary residence is both in California

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and where whatever.

Speaker 6 (28:53):
Other suit I think it was Maryland, I'm not.

Speaker 9 (28:55):
Sure whatever, some liberal hellhole in any case, and it
appears that the paperwork supports the fraud that they are claiming. Yeah,
and then that's the one that really kicks it. Within
the Senate. There's an ethics probe on this guy from
when he was a representative House of Representatives, and apparently

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there are memos available there that suggests that this guy
is something less than ethical. So they Schiff has got
four problems he's going to have to deal with on
four separate fronts. Remember the awful things he did to
Donald Trump?

Speaker 6 (29:38):
Sure doesn't, and he knew he was lying and they
have proof of that.

Speaker 9 (29:43):
Yeah, doesn't this thing swoop back around and slap him
in the face. I can hardly wait to see it.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Is there a Democrat that doesn't swoop in the face
other than a few of them, like.

Speaker 6 (29:53):
The guy I don't know, like the guy with the party.

Speaker 9 (29:56):
The party's ratings are so far in the tank. I'm
not sure any Democrat could ever get elected again.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Well, that's that's what ought to happen. Uh, You're always
going to have people that don't want to believe about
it because they just they just can't do it. He's
gonna there's gonna be a percentage of those. But you
know what, Uh, I think Trump. I think they stole
a lot of votes even in this election because they

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knew they couldn't afford Trump to win.

Speaker 6 (30:29):
Oh, but he won, Dave, Well, he killed it. He
killed it all right.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Now, if he were to run again, Uh, he probably
overwhelmed the electorate.

Speaker 6 (30:40):
Except that's not going to happen. Probably.

Speaker 14 (30:43):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
But we're going to have some decent follow up with J. D.
Vance and maybe Marco Rubio, and they have a good bench.

Speaker 6 (30:56):
The Democrats. The Democrats have nothing.

Speaker 9 (31:00):
It looks better for our country today at this moment
than it has in so many decades. I've been so
depressed over those decades, thinking the average guy on the
street doesn't have a chance in this country. He's overtaxed.
There's two separate sets of justice system here. You know,
we were screwed, and now we've got a guy in

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there that has surrounded himself with patriots who believe in
law and order and are pursuing law and order every
place you look, Dave, I've been smiling a lot lately.

Speaker 6 (31:35):
Well.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
And the press conferences, the press are always there. I mean,
they ought to love this. Even the liberal world's got
to love the being in front of Trump and being
able to ask all these questions, some of them still
stupid ones, but still they have access to him.

Speaker 6 (31:54):
I didn't have any of that.

Speaker 9 (31:56):
If you remember, for decades, every single press prince was orchestrated. Yeah,
and this thing is free for Heck, ask anything you want,
I'll answer you.

Speaker 6 (32:05):
All right.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Let me read it, let me read a few let
me read a few things from the board here, and
then we gotta go. Shannon read Good morning, tg I, Dave,
Rico Camino, a friend of Rick Henderson's. Good morning, Uh,
Patricia Oden Maxwell sounding good looking, good to go teamt Yes,

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and uh Roy Mannox, good morning from Oklahoma.

Speaker 6 (32:32):
That's your buddy.

Speaker 9 (32:32):
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All right, we're almost back. We got something coming up
so and it's going to be very short.

Speaker 8 (39:05):
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all set up and then they will reset the page
and then I have to go back and rEFInd it again.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Okay, well, all right, that's fine. Well, coming up very soon,
we got the Rabbi coming up from Israel. Got a
lot of things I want to ask him. It's really well,
the the the bb dataos that he is getting ready
to take over, to take over Gaza, you know, so
that's going to be interesting. And I'm watching my stuff

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go around here and out's in there somewhere so we're
going to figure this out. It's going to be a
lot of fun. I mean, if I'm just searching the
damn thing, you know, it's fun doing the show. Keep going,
keep going. Okay, good, good, good good good?

Speaker 6 (39:55):
All right? Oh there it is there it is. I
found it. Okay, this is this is rush our ant
the Sororities.

Speaker 8 (40:04):
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Speaker 6 (40:07):
Yeah, so watch us, you.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
Just keep watching.

Speaker 6 (40:20):
I know you want to dance in.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
I was dancing too, yes, And and we have a
handsome fellow coming up right now. And uh, while this
guy is a wartime rabbi, donations go for I d
F widows and their kids and living expenses. And my
question to him is will this war ever stop?

Speaker 6 (40:47):
Uh? We we kept the rush dance going for a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Rabbi, so all the way from this world, Rabbi motion
ross child, how the hell are you?

Speaker 3 (41:04):
I'm good?

Speaker 6 (41:04):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (41:05):
By the way, he's the author of Don't tell Me,
Don't tell me, Don't tell me.

Speaker 6 (41:11):
The Hebrew Secrets of the Hebrew Bible. Did he get right?
That's right? Yeah? Thanks? All right? Checking?

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Okay, So is Iran a lot weaker than they present
to the world because they act like they're tough and
they're going to still be mean and they're still going
to do what they want to do. Are they really
that tough anymore?

Speaker 3 (41:35):
No, Israel has degraded them dramatically their capabilities. First of all,
they have no air defenses anymore. Yeah, is operated in
the in the skies of Iran with impunity.

Speaker 6 (41:49):
They had no.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
You know, after the first couple of days, we took
out all their air defense. We we decimated their their
ability to create and make drones. They went from firing
hundreds of missiles in a day to one or two.
So their capabilities have been dramatically degraded. But it's the

(42:14):
nature of this of the Middle East and particularly Iran,
and to speak with great bravado, as if they're as
as if they're strong, as if they're powerful, but they
have nothing to back it up with. Because if they did,
of course, they would not sit silently. They'd be attacking
ise right now.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
But they didn't they do it ten years ago. I mean,
my question is this. They were always threatening this thing
for the last ten to fifteen years, and they never
did anything right. So you know, we're gonna come, we're
gonna drop a bomb. You're a one bomb maybe two
bomb country, and we're gonna do it.

Speaker 6 (42:51):
And so what the hell I think they were?

Speaker 3 (42:54):
They were they were just binding time trying to get
a nuclear weapon. So you know, we set them back
a long time. And so now it's a lot of
just the huffing and puffing, a lot of bravado. But
like I said in previous weeks, it's not over, like
there probably will be another round with Iran.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
What about the Persians? Are they coming around? And the Persians?
Who are the indigenous people?

Speaker 6 (43:24):
Right?

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Iran? What about them? Are they are they doing anything
or what?

Speaker 10 (43:28):
Well?

Speaker 3 (43:28):
We have it has been encouraging the local population, and
it's you know, you know, Obama had a chance and
he let them down. You know, Natona this week did
make some statements to the Persian population to like, you know, yeah,
it's time to time to take your country back and

(43:51):
we're waiting for that day. That'll be a very good
day for the Middle East and for the world.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Uh, there's there's no one to the world to Hamas
releases hostages, right, is that all the hostages or what
does that what he's saying now.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Look, it's very very simple, you know, and everyone's making
this way too complicated. On October seventh, we were attacked.
Two hundred fifty hostages were taken, women were raped, people
were killed, babies were murdered. And that war is still
going on until those hostages are released, are freed, and
if they're not going to be free, then we'll continue

(44:28):
to fight. We'll take more and more of Gaza, and
as we saw this week, they called up another sixty
thousand soldiers this week. And you know it'll be phased,
it'll take place over a couple of weeks, but we
are going to begin, or have begun, the assault on
Gaza City and we're gonna continue fighting if it means

(44:48):
occupying all of Gaza, if it means taking all the
major cities, and we will do that until the war
is over. And might say the war is over meaning
that we get our hostages back. That's how they're started.
And it's really straightforward.

Speaker 6 (45:03):
Now let me let me let me do a critical
thing here.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
This is absolutely right, This is absolutely doing the right thing,
and you have to do this.

Speaker 6 (45:17):
Yeah, I mean, I just understand.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
Can you imagine and like World War Two, the Allies
saying we're going to do the job. Eighty eight. No, yeah,
you got to go to the end. You don't leave
the Nazis in power. You don't leave the third Riot,
you know, running the country. Sure, yeah, you got you
gotta go to the end.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
You turn it back to the third Is that what
we're supposed to do? You know, turn it back.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
I have a son in Gaza. I have a son
in Gaza. Of course I want the war to be over.
Of course I want to add but but we have
to have a long view because my family and my
kids will be in danger once again if we don't.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Your kid, your future grandkids and great grandkids.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
Correct, it's the time has come to time has come
to end this.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
And I still don't know how you're going to get
anyone to take commas people. But you say that that
will happen, that it's easier edocation.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
I saw with Sudan, with some other countries.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
But we'll say the European countries say they want them,
they're they're out of their minds. But okay, I think
you should deliver them. I think you should fly them over. Okay,
bring them to London, bring them bring them to uh Germany, Berlin,
let them deal with that after what they did for
the Jews.

Speaker 6 (46:35):
You know.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Sure, so Jordan is reinstating its military draft amid tensions
with Israel.

Speaker 6 (46:43):
What the hell are they doing?

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Well, you know, you got to understand that that Jordan
is Palestinians. The ruling party are called that.

Speaker 6 (46:55):
Palestinians. What is a Palestinian, Well, it's an era, say Palestinian.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
I'm just using it as the way the world used it,
because remember in nineteen sixty seven, nineteen forty eight, the
Arabs living in Jordan and the Arabs living in is
We're the same. It was the same people. So when
they talk about quote unquote a Palestinian state, there already
is one. It's called Jordan. And so there was no
country of Palestine with an Arab leadership and Arab government

(47:24):
never existed. Exactly fantasy. It's a fiction. And so I
use the word only because you know, the listeners and
everyone in the world seems to use that word. But
Jordan is ruled by a minority, you know, and they're
afraid because in Syria you had the same situation, and
look what happened in Syria. So you know, they have

(47:46):
to placate the masses of people, and very often the
King of Jordan does things that is not necessarily in
Israel's interests or favor, even though we have a treaty
with them, because he's got to keep those people happy.
He's terrified of being thrown out, just like a Sad
was in Syria. So you know, I don't know what's

(48:08):
really going on. It could just is he afraid of you?
Is he afraid of Israel?

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Or is he afraid of the pop his own people,
which yeah, he's afraid of He's afraid of the Muslims,
isn't he.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
Yeah, and he's got to you know, do this saber rattling,
which is gonna you know, in his in his estimation,
you know, quiet his population as if they're ready to
go to war. But look at what happened in Iran.
Jordan allowed Israel to operate in Jordanian airspace. No one
push came to Shah. Jordan helped shoot down Iranian missiles,

(48:46):
you know, and we know who saw they were on
against Iran.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Yeah, so they're they're they're against the Mullahs and they're
they're but they got to keep it secret. Why is
beyond me because eventually you got to you got to
show your cards and say, hey, yeah, we're not putting
up with this crept because it's gonna happen after a while.
That's the their strategy is to keep going and going

(49:11):
and going until they finally get you.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
Yeah, that's correct, you know. And I don't know, but
I think it might have been who was the one
who said, you know, the way a lot of the
ourd countries deal with Israel is that they're like the
mistress that you don't talk about.

Speaker 6 (49:27):
You know, we have a.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
Relationship with them, but it's all under the radar. And
then came along Donald Trump with the Abraham Accords. We
had a lot of those relationships. Now you know, we're
no longer the level of the mistress. We became you know,
the spouse. And you know, of course, of course I
was interrupted by this October seventh War, but you know,

(49:49):
that was all part of the plan come up. They
didn't want Saudi Arabia signing on the Abraham Accords or
any other country for that matter.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
No ambassador or Huckabee this is a quote for him.
Euro leaders, European leaders gave hamas cover. Did they all
do that or or were there anybody there saying this
is horrible for Israel, And did any even talk about
what happened on October the seventh, twenty three and then

(50:20):
talk about it.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
Look, you definitely had some European country, like in the Netherlands,
for example, the opposition leadership. Even in England the opposition,
but the leading power is there a rendous sport a
Palestinian state.

Speaker 6 (50:37):
You know.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
It's like it's like, imagine giving the Nazis, give them
a state.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Well, yeah, it's like it's like Belgium telling the Nazis,
we'll give you a state here, you know, and that's
what that's what they're saying.

Speaker 6 (50:52):
Look at look at Ireland, even Ireland's turning into that countries.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
They don't even recognize Taiwan, you know as a you know,
they don't recognize Taiwan, right because they broke away from China.
Like like I think we should give Taiwan advice. Let
China invade and rape and murder your people and then
you know then maybe or the other way around. Let
Taiwan invade China and rape and murder a bunch of

(51:18):
Chinese people and then will recognize. It's like it's they're
just rewarding terror.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
So we've got these people in our own house and Senate.
This guy's in the house. I believe he's a he's
a he's a Jewish Democrat, Jamie Raskin, and he backs
all he backs the bill to kill arms to Israel,
in other words, to get rid of the arms for Israel.

(51:47):
Now this is which one of the the Democratic Party,
especially the Jews, are backing Israel and not backing how
am us.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
I mean, look, the Democratic Party, like Dave, you and
I have been discussing this for years. Now they are
you know, this is not the party that my parents
and my grandparents supported. You know, the Democratic Party was
very pro Israel, pro Jewish, and and it was it
was very comfortable for American Jewish immigrants. However, that has

(52:24):
shifted dramatically now. You know a lot of young Jews
are connected to the Republican Party, not enough, but a lot.
And the Democratic Party has let every let us down.
And they're they're turning into a home for anyone who
wants to hate Israel. They can join the Democratic Party.

(52:46):
And even guys like Chuck Schumer has been a disaster,
you know, let alone Bertie Sanders. You know, these are
Jewish guys.

Speaker 6 (52:54):
Yeah, Jewish guys.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
They're operating, they're operating, you know, against Israel.

Speaker 6 (52:59):
But they.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Jews seem to be have seemed to have been smitten
with Communism at a certain point, and with socialism marks.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
It's also that's definitely a part of it.

Speaker 19 (53:14):
But Jews also a lot of these very secular Jews
had spent a lot of time one thing, to integrate,
to be like the non Jews. And they don't wear
their Jewish badge with pride like black people do, like Italians,
even gay people. That they take their identity and they say,
I'm not going to subsume it.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
I'm going to walk around with pride. But somehow Jews say,
you know what I'm gonna I just want to be
like everybody else, and everyone just leave me alone. And
they think if they bend over backwards and they impose
Israel on it, that they're just going to be accepted
into the And it isn't true.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
None that would have been so easy to do here
here in a small town look like this, But I
never did that. Now, it took a while for us
to unders stand each other. But when we did, you know,
I'm fine. I mean, I think I'm the only guy
who's Jewish in the country club, and I don't have
any problems there. And if I do it, let him know.

(54:13):
If I think if I think one of them is
threatening me, I let them have it.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
You know, look, our non Jewish friends and neighbors, they
respect when you have a sense of.

Speaker 6 (54:25):
Pride and.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Esteem and who you are, instead of trying to hideen,
trying to become and pretend you're something else. It never works.
But you have, unfortunately many Jews like that, and they
have to demonstrate how non Jewish they are by opposing Isram,
by bending over backwards. And that's what's happening. They're afraid
to be. You know, this started in eighteen hundred and

(54:50):
ninety when you had people like leaders of their Jewish
Reform movement who said to be a Jew at home
and a non Jew on the streets. That doesn't wow
your Your wife.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Whose whose ancestry goes back to Poland, had an interesting
story about them being there almost a thousand years and
getting all great with all the Polish Christians and they
were just friends and all that. Suddenly the German show
up and they they I did all the Jews all

(55:24):
these buddies for over a century, around a century. In
a heartbeat, they're they're pushing them out. Okay, you know.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
So So look, we have a very complicated relationship with
the non Jewish world. If you look at his you know,
Theodore Hertzel, Theodore Herzel, who is not an observant or
religious duw he wanted to found the state of Israel
because he saw it as a way to escape anti Semitism.
You don't want us, you don't like us.

Speaker 6 (55:50):
No problem, guys, we'll leave.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
We'll make our own state and legs not.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Like we didn't have a steak in it. It's only
one being that said this is the land for the Jews,
and that's who God.

Speaker 6 (56:06):
Mean.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
So what are the land whether land out there out
there that God says this.

Speaker 6 (56:13):
Is your land forever? It's none, There is none, all right.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
So we've got some pretty good creds in terms of
going to Israel, and in fact, we're short on the
boundaries that God gave us. Yeah, so if you believe,
if you believe Judaea and Samaria are Israel, doesn't that
mean that Arabs there are occupying it?

Speaker 3 (56:40):
Yeah? I mean that's that's the truth.

Speaker 6 (56:45):
And what do they call what they call it?

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Yeah, I mean they call it the West Bank, the
West Bank, Yeah, the west How long is it? How
long before that was it named Judea and Samaria?

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Yeah, Samaria is three That name is three four thousand.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Years exactly my point. Why do we let people get
away with that? Why do we let people get away
with renaming what God said it ought to be?

Speaker 6 (57:16):
Yeah? Seriously, Yeah, it's right.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
You keep saying, I'm one hundred percent right, I'm gonna
become a rabbi. I think it's a little a little
too uh late in life for me to do that.
So so me and notating Yahoo are oh me and
notating Yahoo?

Speaker 6 (57:42):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
Trump says this, Me and Neatan Yahoo are war heroes
against the Iranians and Hamas?

Speaker 6 (57:52):
Do you think he is? Are they heroes? I do too? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (58:00):
And uh, you know, I think I want to just
add some here. It's very important for people to understand. Yeah,
this is not a war of Israel versus Hamas or
Israel versus is oversight run. This is a war of
good versus evil. That's It's as simple as that. And
so whatever side you're on, you're either on the side
of evil, or the side of good. There's nothing in

(58:22):
the middle. And if you don't support Israel and you're
supporting the other side, then you are on the side
of evil. Absolutely, It's really as simple as that.

Speaker 6 (58:31):
Rabbi, do you have any Rabbi ranch or scoops? Uh?

Speaker 11 (58:38):
Do nuns?

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Well, if you've told me a lot of what pisses
you off, and I understand it thoroughly, when are you
going to start to be able to do tours and
things like that?

Speaker 6 (58:49):
Again? Uh?

Speaker 3 (58:52):
You know what, right now, tourism is pretty much dead.
You know, people book and then they canceled, they book
if they canceled, that seems to be the what's going on?
But the truth is I'm full time, I'm working, We're
supporting one hundred and seventy widows. You know, I don't
have I wouldn't even have time right now.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
So well, speaking of that, other than Dave Wayne Bomb show,
where can people contribute and buy your book?

Speaker 3 (59:19):
Well, they can buy the book Secrets of the he
Revival dot org. And if they want to go to
our website, they can go to Israel Alliance dot org
or Facebook dot com forward slash Israel Alliance. We'd love
to hear from you, guys.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
If a Jewish baker mary's his sister, is he in
halla bread twice?

Speaker 6 (59:46):
I can't see his reaction.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Okay, okay, he doesn't get it.

Speaker 6 (59:53):
Okay, all right, get it.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
If a baker twice? If a baker, if a baker
marries his sister, is he in twice? If he if
he is he in bread twice? I was trying to.
I was trying to. I was trying to make a
similar joke that would be Jewish, that would be a

(01:00:21):
be uh something that you would understand. All right, thank you, well,
then give me another shot at that way.

Speaker 6 (01:00:29):
Come on, how do you know from.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Yeah, that's from a Jewish Eddie Murphy, alright, all the
all the family and uh and I kidd of you.
That's still fighting this war, okay, hopefully hopefully it gets over, okay,
and then and you're doing the right stuff, though it
will never be over until you make it over. And

(01:00:55):
I think God's behind you, and may you stay forever
behind you. All right, Yeah, all right, guys, about all
the best, by bye bye bye. It all right, so
we're back on air, and do we have time for well?
Bill is always late. He's supposed to be here, isn't he?
Oh he's on his way. Good do a commercial. I

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Speaker 6 (01:01:18):
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Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
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Okay, we're back, and we're back with a wonderful person here,
a great politician, a great Iraqi platoon leader, National Guard,
state representative running for Senate here in Missouri. He's a philosopher, professor,
now a podcast sir. In his spare time, he climbs

(01:07:36):
ropes in gyms. Bill Hardwick, you.

Speaker 16 (01:07:45):
Guys are too kind. The entourage is it's just too much.

Speaker 6 (01:07:49):
Thank you.

Speaker 16 (01:07:49):
Guys.

Speaker 6 (01:07:50):
Yeah, you're okay. You're not nervous about all these people
listening in? Are you?

Speaker 16 (01:07:53):
At this point? You're used to it a while? Just
you know the applause.

Speaker 6 (01:07:59):
I'm I'm I've never been used to it. I work
on it all the time.

Speaker 16 (01:08:05):
You always, That's exactly. Once you get complacent, you start
to fade.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
I think so, yeah, I think so. It keeps me
on edge. I try to be a little better every week.
We're trying stuff here, sometimes just failing, sometimes not but
I can see the future.

Speaker 16 (01:08:18):
It's exactly my thing. I've got to I've got a vision.
But we're gonna try some stuff. Some thing it's gonna work.
Some things aren't gonna work. Yeah, we're gonna keep going
forward with our plans.

Speaker 6 (01:08:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
And you don't base you don't. You don't wreck your
base of belief to get to where you are. You
you use your base of relief to stay loyal to
it so people can see that you're loyal to what
you say.

Speaker 6 (01:08:42):
Yeah, and not change with the with the tide.

Speaker 16 (01:08:45):
Yeah, you got to stand for something. I was thinking
about that. You've got to be something. I was thinking
about that in terms elected officials, you know, like some
people go they need to get meaner, and some people
are like, well, they need to be nicer. And I'm like,
I don't really care if you're mean or nice. I
just want you to stand for something exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:08:59):
And that's what you got call a rhino, yeah, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
It's somebody that uh, Okay, they're going along with the
program until they get a little heat or they get
a little somebody buying them off. Something happens, and then
they turn around and they they bite where they came from.

Speaker 16 (01:09:16):
You know, Rhino gets thurnn a lot, they say to
Ryin a lot. But I got my own personal definition
of it because I think it's a thing. I think
it's when somebody they don't believe what the Conservatives Republicans believe,
they're just pretending to so they can get elected. Yeah,
that's what I think. Rhino to me is somebody who's
like they they may not be really pro life, they
may not be really pro Second Amendment, they may they

(01:09:37):
may not like Donald Trump, but they kind of give
it lip service and act like it because they want
to win the election, right, and then when they get there,
they're doing everything they can to stop the conservative stuff
from happening. Yeah, that's rhino is to me.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Yeah, I don't think there are as many as there are,
but there's still some. And if they are, there are
many of them, they're they're they're not speaking about it
right now because Trump has gotten rid of the that
kind of talk.

Speaker 6 (01:10:02):
For the most part.

Speaker 16 (01:10:03):
I still think Trump's revolutionary. He had a revolutionary version
his first term. He's got a revolutionary thing now.

Speaker 6 (01:10:10):
Right.

Speaker 16 (01:10:10):
How much we've performed the government, you know, it's just
like cutting the ways getting kind of rid of the
woke stuff. And there's been big changes he's done in
the government. This is the last few years.

Speaker 6 (01:10:20):
Big common sense stuff too, I think amazing.

Speaker 16 (01:10:24):
I think cutting taxes and then so find ways to
cut the deficit, ye, and cutting spending is kind of
common sense stuff.

Speaker 12 (01:10:33):
You know.

Speaker 11 (01:10:33):
That's good.

Speaker 16 (01:10:34):
The foreign policy, asserting America, having a plan a strategy
with China, that stuff we should have been doing forever. Yeah,
trying to end the war in Ukraine. I mean, that
can go on forever. We've got to end that war somehow.

Speaker 6 (01:10:44):
So yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
Anyways, so you and Don Mayhew, let me refresh some
of the people out there. I have never done this before.
I don't think I have. I know, in seventeen years.

Speaker 6 (01:10:55):
Of doing this. You and Don Mayhew did a great
job on July the fourth. Uh and.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
And yet, and yet when I had him on the show,
he would not remember or not say your last name, Hardwick.
I'm a little bit upset about it, but I hope,
I hope he's listening right now. Look, I mean, how
dare you not do that? Who was your buddy?

Speaker 16 (01:11:25):
Come on, man, really, really water under the bridge, as
far as I'm concerned, he.

Speaker 5 (01:11:31):
Did he did?

Speaker 6 (01:11:33):
Friend though, Yeah, good friend. Yeah, Bill's my good friend.
I said, what's his last name? How about? But he's
my good friend. I said, I know that what's his
last name? And he wouldn't say it? Hart? Okay, fine
that show?

Speaker 16 (01:11:49):
Yeah, and I'm sorry, go ahead, no no. I went
on this rant about how people are getting sick and
they make you know, they're making the environmental factors that
were that companies are causing people to get sick, pharmaceutical companies,
you know, drug companies, and they don't really care that
people are chronically ill because all these chemicals I think
we're put in the environment. And then a buddy of mine, Nick, Sure,

(01:12:11):
he made it into an AI baby talking and I'll
send it to you. But it's like it's like me
as a baby, like why are people so sick?

Speaker 6 (01:12:20):
Like we got to take a stand.

Speaker 16 (01:12:22):
I'll send it to you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Find the baby Trump thing, you know while we're doing this. Yeah, hey,
so so I want to reu what's the matter.

Speaker 6 (01:12:37):
It's so loud in my oh oh his ears? Okay,
sorry about that. So you didn't turn everyone else down
because I like my I like being a loud enough, you.

Speaker 11 (01:12:49):
Know, So thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:12:51):
So the fundraiser, let's do this again. I uh no,
I've never done anything like that.

Speaker 16 (01:12:55):
Never, You've never done a political fundraiser before.

Speaker 6 (01:12:58):
No, never never even gone to I don't think. And
it was it was a fundraiser. I guess so.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
Barbecues and stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:13:09):
Yeah, but I don't know. I guess they're all fundraisers. Then.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
I wasn't aware of it. But it was never the
main guy, like you know, introducing people and sponsoring it.
And you were a big help she had. She put
all yeah, every great. I want you to write this
down and remember this for later.

Speaker 6 (01:13:30):
When you say I never said anything nice to you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
Okay, good write it though the fundraise because it has
to come back, all right. The fundraiser was the best
you've ever seen?

Speaker 6 (01:13:42):
Is that correct?

Speaker 16 (01:13:43):
That that was the best? Yeah? I think there ever
was one.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
Yeah, And I felt good vibes about it through it.
Can I I don't know what to do with that stuff.
I mean, and I thought I was decent enough.

Speaker 6 (01:13:56):
I thought I thought you were great, Thank you.

Speaker 16 (01:13:58):
I appreciate the venue. I thought the McDonald's was a
big hit. Everybody, No, the tea and the the burgers
and the chickens, people were just they were loving it. Really, Yeah,
but they were that was great and uh, you know
fed into O'donald Trump McDonald's.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
Wait wait wait, wait, we gotta put that. We gotta
put the sound on for this. Okay, we gotta do this.
Hopefully you can hear this. I'm praying you can hear this.

Speaker 6 (01:14:23):
All right. This is the kind of thing.

Speaker 9 (01:14:25):
Yeah, but Americans are not struggling.

Speaker 16 (01:14:29):
You know, this is the worst platform.

Speaker 21 (01:14:32):
Who put the stage up here? This is not where
the freaking place is falling down? I noticed it keeps
tilting for the left.

Speaker 11 (01:14:43):
Like too many other things.

Speaker 6 (01:14:45):
Now play it over again. I just go ahead, play
it over again.

Speaker 21 (01:14:49):
Who put the stage up here? This is not where
the freaking place is falling down? I noticed it keeps
tilting for the left, like too many other things.

Speaker 6 (01:15:03):
Okay, is that funnier one? I mean, how do they
do that?

Speaker 11 (01:15:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:15:08):
And you're gonna have that done to you.

Speaker 16 (01:15:11):
AI, It's already been done. I'll send it to you.

Speaker 6 (01:15:15):
Yeah, are as funny as that.

Speaker 16 (01:15:17):
It's it's it's it's funny, and it's it's adorable.

Speaker 6 (01:15:22):
Yeah, well yes you are adorable. But if you really
want to know, I'm just just an adorable guy.

Speaker 16 (01:15:29):
I'm trying to be.

Speaker 6 (01:15:32):
I think it is. I think he is a tough guy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
He's out there in Iraq and he's in the war
and and uh room, now he's a knife. He's a
nice guy and we can see him as a baby.

Speaker 6 (01:15:44):
Isn't that sweet?

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
You got to let people know that, Okay, So, uh
you know, I want to thank you for personally what
I thought was one of the greatest speech I've ever seen.
One of all the greatest beaches I've ever seen is
standing up to abolish the the knowledge that we were

(01:16:08):
a abortion state. Yeah, and a knowledge that you were
never for this, and that you had a great vote
backup of seventy one and somehow they they some of
those people voted for the abortion state.

Speaker 16 (01:16:29):
Right in my district. Yeah, you know, I think it's
like we're talking about, you know, it would be mean,
you know't gonna be nice, But you've got to believe
in something and say which you think is right and wrong.
And I think that life is something that we should
stand up for. And that amendment that's going to the ballot.
You know, there are even some pro life groups who
criticize it because in there it has exceptions, and I

(01:16:50):
don't agree with those, but I think that what's good
about is the legislature can continue to write to regulate
abortion and ban abortion altogether. And that was the pathway,
to me, the most viable pathway to us becoming a
fully pro life state again, and so that's I wanted
to support that. But I also think that our life
mattering is a big deal, you know, And what we

(01:17:13):
say about any human being, somebody who's older, somebody who's disabled,
says a lot what we think about every human being,
you know, So I think that's something we should stand for.
We talking about rhinos. There are some Republicans, so I
don't feel our really pro life necessarily, but I think
that that is a big issue in the Republican Party.
That the Republican Party has always been the party of

(01:17:34):
freedom since Abraham Lincoln and the abolished of slavery, and
we're the Party of life, so, you know, party of
freedom and the Party of Life is a good party
to be part of. And those are two good values
to stand for.

Speaker 6 (01:17:45):
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
Yeah, Now here's a good example of the lawfare that
was going on. The Trump family suddenly lost their banking
privileges by order of the Biden administration. That's come up
as something that that even Milania got hurt self canceled
from the banks, you know, and this is the kind

(01:18:07):
of thing now they're finding out that there was actually
they were actually told you better shut down their accounts
by the Biden administration. Now and we're still going through
a period of where they're looking at stuff as you
know this morning, probably John Bolton wasn't arrested, but they

(01:18:27):
accused him of having classified papers buying maybe and that's
straight from cash Bettel FBI. So what are your thoughts
on this? Is this just retaliation or is this a
little different than retaliation.

Speaker 16 (01:18:41):
Well, I'm gonna try to give a comprehensive view of it.
When I think about things like the Trump's bank accounts
being shut down, it makes me think a lot about
the social credit source in China actually, where if you
want to fly on an airplane, if you were in
a business, if you were to transact stuff, if you
want to be able to do all these things in China,
you've got to be a good citizen. And you're a

(01:19:03):
good citizen because you don't criticize presidency because what you
say online is acceptable. The way you talk is you know,
you're somebody the state wants you to be. And I
think that's super scary. And I think a lot of
people don't realize how close we are in America to
being something like that. Think about how close any one
of us is to being shut down. You say things

(01:19:23):
you don't like, you get censored on Facebook, on Twitter.
It happens all the time. That's why you've started to broadcast.
People want to go broadcast on Rumble just a matter
of time. You know, when people said there was a
monopoly on social media, they went and started their own thing,
remember that, like in twenty twenty one. Then that got
shut down by the ICP providers, by Amazon, by Apple,
So there is kind of like and then the same

(01:19:45):
thing with banking. The Canadian truckers refuse to take the
COVID vaccine, their bank accounts were frozen. That's how they
got to them. They free seized them. So there's a
big problem with this linkage between you think you're politically
free and personally free, but the government and the banking
industry has the ability to shut you down as fast
as they want to. That more and more of your
life and just even your thoughts, the way you think

(01:20:06):
of the way you believe on things, pie on things
more and more that's even being monitored and take into
account of your good citizen. So I think that's a
huge problem. For one, I think that we really need
to be able to say you can have political freedom
in this country. You can say, we know pretty much
whatever you want about criticizing the government. Take your political
positions about things like we're talking about about life, about

(01:20:28):
the Second Amendment, about you know about COVID, about the mandates,
about the future future pandemics that we think are coming.
You should be able to express dissent and thoughts about
those without any financial, government regulatory retaliation or law enforcement retaliation.
Now Bolton, I am nervous about that a little bit.

Speaker 11 (01:20:47):
Now.

Speaker 16 (01:20:47):
That could be that he has he did take classified
documents inappropriately, But I also worry about the FBI continuing
to raid high profile political figures, just like I didn't
like it with Donald Trump at all. I thought that
was inappropriate.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
Well, they're coming out and saying this was strictly something
trying to pin him on by dumping on him with
something there was There was no unclassified information.

Speaker 16 (01:21:13):
In no classified I think that I think the I
think that me think you see a different way. I
taught a class on the Fourth Amendment yesterday to some
police officers on the constitutional law and about how the
home is a sacred place should be like and then
the constitution's like your sanctuary. And for the government to
come into your home and kick down the door and

(01:21:33):
go through your stuff, that is that that's a very
very big deal. And so that's why that's why the
Bill of Rights is written. Think about and where I
was talking about the social credit stores, think about why
we have a Bill of rights. There was a constitution
that had the structure and powers of the of the
government and it delineated those things, and the federalists wanted

(01:21:54):
it adopted. But the anti federalists were like, hey, there's
some problems here. We're afraid that we'll repeat exact actually
what King George did to us? What are King George
to the colonists? They spoke out, they said, I don't
like the King's policy. I have a different religion from
the Church of England. I think that this trade policy,
tax policy is bad. And then back then the British

(01:22:15):
soldiers were the civil authority. The army was the police,
the British soldiers broke into their homes. They took their
guns out of their homes, and they rummaged their papers
and they said, what are you writing you, what are
you reading? What are your notes? And they went to
their stuff, their personal effects.

Speaker 6 (01:22:29):
And they actually lived in their houses.

Speaker 16 (01:22:32):
And the idea this is my house now and then
and then if they wanted to, you could anybody who
the King didn't like could be charged with anything, which
is like today if you want to find if you
lie to the FBI, right the same thing, right they
find a crime on you. And then they had like
this perfunctory kangaroo court system. The person was in jail
as long as the King wanted them to be. And
the founders really didn't like that. That was a huge

(01:22:55):
abuman abuse. They thought, So what are the caveats to
the constitution, the the freedom of speech, the freedom of religion,
No state religion should be established, freedom of speech, right
right to rejust your government, petition your government. The right
to keeping bare arms should not be infringed. And no
generalized warrant you know you set upon, you show a
probable cause, particularly describing the things to be searched, and

(01:23:16):
the place, the things to be seized, and the places
to be searched. Right, So they said specific warrant, you
can go into the home if there's probable cause, you're
seeing exactly what you're looking for where you're looking for it.
And then there's all these due process rights about the
no double jeopardy, right to an attorney, right against compulsionbal testimony.

Speaker 6 (01:23:31):
That whole string of Bill of rights is.

Speaker 16 (01:23:33):
A response to how King George prosecuted his political enemies.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
Right, and for the last four years at least, we
have been subjected to that unconstitutional kind of treatment, haven't right.

Speaker 16 (01:23:50):
I exactly, I should be able to criticize my government.
I should be able to have religious beliefs and say
here's what I believe about God, and I can express that,
and I can criticize the Crown the powers that be
the authority. And you can't come take my gun away,
and you can't come go through my house and go
through my papers and effects. And we have little case
law too. You know, back in the seventeen hundreds they wrote,

(01:24:11):
you know, they had those big letters and they had
the stamp and stuff like that. But we the equivalent
we have now is our smartphones, right. And so that's
why there's a privacy protection and smartphones in your home.
This is our this is our papers, right right. And
you know, we don't have big filing cabinets with our
thoughts and diaries. We have a smartphone that it it
does carnalize our thoughts, all the text that we send
to people and stuff, and that's protected by the Fourth Amendment.

(01:24:33):
So I think that I think that, okay. And I'm
also a soldier, so I also have a belief in
protecting our country and having national security and defending our
country from our enemies, right and making sure that we're safe.

Speaker 6 (01:24:45):
I believe in that.

Speaker 16 (01:24:46):
But I also know that there's a reason why that
there were caveats to government power back in the seventeen hundreds,
and those caveats are more relevant today, I think, than
they've ever been. And I want the President the United States,
I want the director of the FBI, I want every
US attorney, I want every judge in this country to
say there are boundaries on the jurisdiction of government power

(01:25:10):
into how you can prosecute your political enemies and what
you could do. And that's very, very important. So I
want to to uphold that you know, I don't know
what the warrant says. I don't know what the fies
a warrant would say for Espionage Act, but I want
to make sure that they pulled the Constitution.

Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
Now as a political document like the Constitution? Have you
seen anything better than this? And we have to realize
that this is just words on a paper on whatever
it is they put it on. And wonder if other

(01:25:44):
documents were formed in other countries at other times that
were great documents and yet people eventually overrode them.

Speaker 16 (01:25:56):
Yeah, that's right, Well there's no there's no country like
ours ever been. That's where we talk about American exceptionalism.
And I view that as the history of the world
is its brutality, Hobbes and state of nature. Eventually, this
brutality consolidates into a unified despot, crown, monarch right an

(01:26:18):
absolutist government, and so as unique about America was instead
of being ruled by that power structure, this concentrated absolutist
government were ruled by law. These principles that here's how
we divide power between the executive, legislative and judicial branches,
between the state and federal government. That division power is
important too. And then we have these things that they're

(01:26:39):
like these rights that we never said come from government.
They're called negative rights because we say we're making a
law against the government intruding upon them. The Congress shall
not the right to keep in their arms shall not
be infringed, No warrant shall issue. That's why I call
it negative. We're saying government, you can't do this. That's
what makes America exceptional. You know, if you look back

(01:27:01):
in the history with the Magna Karta is pretty important, right,
the Torah is pretty important as a government structure. It
sets up a judicial system, right, Like that goes back
to ancient Israel, Like the way they structure a system
of justice. You can even read about, you know, like
solo men kind of beaning body of that, you know,
with the the two women who claim it's her baby,
you know, and he's arbitrating. But even then that's an

(01:27:24):
example of the judical branch.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
You can't split the baby in half, split the baby
comes out. He was going to do it, and they said, no, right,
we'll figure it out.

Speaker 16 (01:27:34):
Yeah, No, he was evident away. He's a good, good litigator,
had a way of figuring out the truth, right, proving
the truth. But it's also example of the executive branch
and digital branch being consolidated. So like you know the
idea that America goes, Okay, we'll take power, which is
the capacity to do violence and to break into your home,
right kicked on your door and take it, and we'll
compartmentalize it. So this unit has just this power. This

(01:27:57):
unit has just this power, and that way it's not unified.
Way that's going to become oppressive. That's like the idea
of the American governmental system.

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
Right.

Speaker 16 (01:28:04):
The president has certain power, but he can't declare war,
he can't appropriate money.

Speaker 6 (01:28:08):
Right.

Speaker 16 (01:28:09):
The states have certain power, but they don't have international
treaty power. Right, Like we've divided the power up. That
seems like what we want to do. We want to
make sure that we're defending our country. That's why we
have an executive branch. That's really why there's a president.
The president's there because in case we get invaded by
a foreign country and to deal with other countries. Right,
that's why they envisioned George Washington. They thought the British

(01:28:31):
were coming back say like, we need a strong executive
to protect our country, to be the guardian of the country. Cool,
but his powers are limited, and they should be especially
limited domestically. The presidency was not intended to be weaponized
against people in their everyday lives. They thought that people
in the everyday lives should be run by the states
and the local governments.

Speaker 6 (01:28:48):
Right, pretty much, go to your city, go to.

Speaker 16 (01:28:50):
Your town hall back then, you know, the town meeting
and talk about what your town wants to do, and
the president has nothing to do with that. That was
kind of vision founder.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
Of course, now you have the Trump but you have
situations like in DC, for example, where people are getting killed.
That's a capital of the country. So Trump, you would
seem to say, would have executive rights to go in
there and fix the problem.

Speaker 6 (01:29:17):
Yeah, different, which he is doing.

Speaker 16 (01:29:18):
Well, Okay, different things that work there. For using the
National Guard in DC. First of all, if you're talking
about the use of the militia and the country at large,
the president does have some constitutional powers invasion and insurrection,
and there's statutory versions of that, like the Insurrection Actor,
the president's ability to federalize a national guard. There's a
bunch of other statutory exceptions. DC is different. Think about

(01:29:41):
what DC is. DC was they said, we want to
have the US capital not within the jurisdiction of the state, right,
because we don't want a state to exert authority over
the federal government.

Speaker 2 (01:29:54):
You have the Democrats want it as a state. I
have to interrupt you right now because I have my
next guest coming on and you're welcome to stay by
the way. Uh. But he he thinks he knows everything,
this guy. Uh, And obviously uh, he's right most of
the time or some of the time. This this man
is And I hope you do stay because there he's good.

(01:30:15):
I think you're gonna like him. I can't stand him,
but I think you'll like him. He's a Sicilian brought
up in Wyoming. What does that mean now? So see
he Uh, it's surprising that all that that he's a
pizza loving conservative and it doesn't doesn't make us a
lot of sense too in Wyoming. Please welcome Chris Adamo.

Speaker 6 (01:30:41):
Christ You know Bill? Do you know Bill Hardwick? Oh?

Speaker 14 (01:30:44):
Of course, good?

Speaker 6 (01:30:46):
How are you doing good?

Speaker 16 (01:30:47):
I like pizza too.

Speaker 6 (01:30:48):
Yeah. I invited him to come to the fundraiser and
he didn't just blew it off.

Speaker 14 (01:30:56):
If you want the best pizza in the country, Bill, Okay,
Cheyenne Wyoming Mandelo's pizza. I'm telling you it's the best.
I've already told Dave, I said, if he goes there
and he has it, it's not the best he's ever had.
I'll pay for it.

Speaker 6 (01:31:07):
No, you're gonna pay for it, because I'm sending you
a bill for the ad you just ran. Of course,
this is Dave.

Speaker 14 (01:31:13):
I won't I won't mention the uh, the the the
side of Dave that will try and jump on a deedle.
He'll lie about it just to get the free pizza.
But anyway, it's okay.

Speaker 11 (01:31:21):
That was terrible.

Speaker 6 (01:31:24):
Joke.

Speaker 14 (01:31:24):
But I have to listen to enough Italian ethnic jokes.
I figured it was a time time.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
What do you mean Italian ethnic jokes? Oh man, what
are you talking about?

Speaker 14 (01:31:33):
I'm talking too.

Speaker 2 (01:31:33):
We're all we're all like, we're all in the same boat,
the Jews and the and the Italians. Forget about it,
Come on, forget about it.

Speaker 14 (01:31:40):
I I I've never had a gofil to fish pizza,
but one of these days I might.

Speaker 2 (01:31:45):
Oh god, it doesn't sound well, maybe it's salty, so
when that might work? What the hell you put you put?
Don't you put like fish on?

Speaker 14 (01:31:55):
And some people do they put anchovies on there and
I can't handle ancho.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
Yeah, Choby's right. So Tom McDonald, uh, he is uh,
let me let me read this again, Tom McDonald. Oh,
took me a quarter of of a song to figure
out what the heck he was. He was singing about
the Devil's Democrat And can you explain why that's on

(01:32:24):
your Facebook account?

Speaker 14 (01:32:28):
Yeah, somebody sent me that video. I'll be honest with you.
That ain't my kind of music.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
But I was figuring, what the hell is this doing
on his Facebook thing? And then then you got if
you get into the singing, you get into the message.
He's actually pro Trump. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 14 (01:32:47):
I'm I'm a little bit more into uh Rockmaninoff and
Brahms and Tchaikowsky, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:32:52):
But quit showing off. What ding me about?

Speaker 14 (01:32:55):
It's uh, it's the fact is there there is a
backlash going on the the the left. The left is uh,
this is who they always were. This is the one
that the critical thing we need to understand and all
of it. This is who the left always was, but
now they feel a little bit more emboldened to show it.
And we've got examples all over the place. This week

(01:33:17):
if you want. I've got my notes for the week here,
and I'll tell you what I started writing this morning.
I usually get on and I tell you know what,
what's the latest thing on the news, And it's it's
just overflowing. I could have filled several pages and it's
it's amazing what's going on. But the big thing to
understand about the left? And we get jp to hold

(01:33:40):
up that really really good book people need to be
buying there.

Speaker 2 (01:33:43):
Yeah, it's also thank you on on the site where
you're now know. Yeah, he can see can you see that?

Speaker 6 (01:33:51):
Yep?

Speaker 14 (01:33:51):
I can see it right up there in the corner,
right next to this really really handsome guy that I'm
not sure who that is. Oh, it's Day, you know,
like that. It's not working anyway.

Speaker 16 (01:34:02):
It's Hard with.

Speaker 6 (01:34:04):
Hard. His name is Hard, you know. Oh.

Speaker 14 (01:34:08):
Okay, Yeah, there's there's Bill there. There's another one right there.

Speaker 6 (01:34:11):
Okay, so there's a.

Speaker 14 (01:34:12):
Lovely lady back in the corner there.

Speaker 6 (01:34:14):
Yes, that's my wife, Lisa, Yes.

Speaker 14 (01:34:17):
Parrag Tarragon of Patients. But anyway, my chapter one, yeah,
I talk about and I realized that this this needs
to be the foundation for the whole thing understanding who
left us are. That's that's the first thing you got
to do is understand who they are, because only when
you understand who they are can you actually start uh

(01:34:37):
connecting the dots of Okay, this is how they operate,
and then this is how to defeat them.

Speaker 6 (01:34:41):
Well, what's the difference between the left and the rhinos?
Are they the same or.

Speaker 14 (01:34:47):
One of them's the ones that admit that they're Democrats
and leftists are honest to agree that they admit who
they are. The rhinos are pretenders. And we could talk
the big time about the rhinos. In the midst of
all this matter of fact, I got things to go
to getting back to finish my point there is you've
got to understand the arrogance of these people. How do
they how do they do such inane things, such such

(01:35:10):
just absurd things and believe that people.

Speaker 2 (01:35:14):
Are going to just fall for it. That's the arrogant
That's the question of the hour. How do they how
do they go into a next election? And what do
they have and who's going to lead them? I mean,
they'll do you have?

Speaker 6 (01:35:26):
Any how?

Speaker 2 (01:35:28):
How are they going to go into the next election
with what policies are they going to be pushing.

Speaker 16 (01:35:35):
Well, the Democrats, Yeah, I think they're in an existential crisis.

Speaker 14 (01:35:38):
Really, Yeah, like they'll make up a policy in the moment.
You know, they'll tell you anything they think you want
to hear because you're stupid, You the the Democrat voter.
You're stupid, and you'll believe it. And so, you know,
if they can come out and uh, you know, we're
going to get rid of tariffs and therefore everybody's going
to be paying ninety cents a gallon for gas, if
that's what it takes them to make you vote from,

(01:35:59):
they'll say that in the next breath. If they think
that they can make the point that what you climate change,
we all need wind power, you need to drive electric cars.
We're going to tax gas five to save the planet.
If that's what they think, we'll get them boats.

Speaker 6 (01:36:15):
They'll say.

Speaker 14 (01:36:15):
Now, the two are completely contradictory.

Speaker 2 (01:36:17):
Nobody believes that. Nobody believes that anymore, because we've had
four years of Joe Biden and eight years of Barack
Obama and the four years of Joe Biden.

Speaker 6 (01:36:31):
And we have one other thing.

Speaker 14 (01:36:32):
And I'm not kidding about this. I say it a
little bit tongue in cheek, but I'm deadly serious about this.
We also have Dave Weinbaum, because what they've been able
to do in the past is they've been able to
sugarcoat whatever they're doing because they had the major networks.
They learned that way, they've lived that way for decades.

Speaker 6 (01:36:50):
They had the major.

Speaker 14 (01:36:51):
Networks to cover for their lives, and so they'd say
whatever they want and people would just accept it because
it's on the news. Okay, that is no longer the case,
as people like you are getting out and speaking against
all lies. And the minute you unmask a lie, it's
not in the open. Yeah, and they can't cover it
up with more and more CNN and more and more
of ABC in the New York Times. Well, so they're

(01:37:14):
still trying.

Speaker 6 (01:37:15):
But that's why I was still known as a liar
until I proved these things, or until it was proved
by other people that it was I was telling the truth.
And you have that too. You're even called a liar.

Speaker 14 (01:37:30):
Uh, And you know it's a badge of honor.

Speaker 2 (01:37:34):
Well, yeah, it's a badge of honor. But their intention
is to change you or get rid of you, and
it used to work, and it never worked on me.
Now I would question us a lot. I would question
certain policies and things like that. I was just questioning
him about the constitution.

Speaker 6 (01:37:52):
Is this unusual?

Speaker 2 (01:37:54):
What about constitutions that are made that aren't followed in
the end, And he was talking about history of that happening.
You know that there are some great uh constitutions out there,
but eventually they get beat up and you you en
into a monarchy and.

Speaker 14 (01:38:12):
They're trying really really hard to do exactly that. I'll
quote you paraphrase John Adams that this aught of every
school kid ought to learn this, every every uh, every
constitutional advocate, every aspiring conservative ought to learn this this
quote because he said that our constitution will only work

(01:38:33):
for and again I'm paraphrasing, will only work for a
moral and godly people, and it's wholly unfit to govern
any other kind. It's for an honest populace that wants
to do the right thing. Let's just take take voting.

Speaker 6 (01:38:47):
Okay.

Speaker 14 (01:38:48):
If if we say we want to do the will
of people, and then we take a vote and the
will of the people is to do something, we say, okay,
that's it, let's go with it. There there's an element
of morality, of respect for your fellow human being and
doing that. Okay, Now if we take that and we
remove the moral component, then it's well, what lies can
we take to get the most people to vote.

Speaker 6 (01:39:10):
A certain way?

Speaker 14 (01:39:11):
And how many fake paper ballots can we get in?
How much cheating can we do, how much propagandizing can
we do? And before long you don't have the will
of the people. You have a self serving, aspiring tyranny.
And if people don't wise up, they're going to lose.

Speaker 2 (01:39:29):
Hey, listen, I want to play a couple of bits,
a couple of clips of you, William Federer from that
was on your site, and I want to get both
of those in there because I thought it was important
enough for you to recite what was going on with that.

Speaker 6 (01:39:47):
So can you hit that or is it? Go ahead?
Hit it please.

Speaker 22 (01:39:50):
Ohama's three steps was immigrate, increase, eliminate, immigrate as a
religious refugee, increase the number of your followers, and demand
political accommodation, and then eliminate the previous culture.

Speaker 6 (01:40:00):
So I was speaking in Detroit area and afterwards had.

Speaker 22 (01:40:04):
People come up and visit around the book table, and
they were telling me about a lady who had a
ministry to pregnant mother's. So she shows up at a
Muslim house, has a little present. Well, out of a
bedroom comes another pregnant Muslim mom. Out of a bedroom,
comes another pregnant Muslim mom. Out of a bedroom, comes
another pregnant Muslim mom, all pregnant by the same man.
He's practicing Sharia law in his house. And then someone

(01:40:26):
else says, oh, yeah, Fasel bought a bunch of houses
on the street, has a wife in each one.

Speaker 6 (01:40:30):
There was in Detroit area.

Speaker 22 (01:40:32):
The wives go down to the welfare office and say
their husband's not around. He goes and visits them, and
the more kids they have, the larger the Czechs get.
He's living like a king at state expense, and all
the kids playing in the middle of the street are
his children. He's practicing Sharia law on his block. They
take over several more blocks, and they vote in the
school board, and now they have their Sharia in the schools.
And then they take over more blocks. They vote in

(01:40:54):
the police department, fire department, and in ham Trammick Detroit,
they vote in the majority of the city common so
they have their minarets, their calls to prayer five times
a day, No different than Pakistan. So we see the
first ones come in as immigrants and they're nice, and
they're so nice. Everybody says they're nice, nothing to fear.
Lot more and more come in, they gravitate together, form
of community. Emom shows up and says, okay, you need

(01:41:16):
to start getting a little more serious about this, more fundamental.

Speaker 6 (01:41:18):
Then the burkers start appearing.

Speaker 22 (01:41:20):
People say the neighborhood's changing, They move out, more Muslims
move in, and then there's always that stickle that says,
I refuse to move out. And that's when there's random
violence from Muslim youth and there's no witnesses because no
Muslim family dare testify against another Muslim family on behalf
of some coffer infidel that's hanging in the neighborhood. And
so eventually they take over the entire neighborhood. And they

(01:41:42):
do this neighborhood by neighborhood, city by city, block block
until they take over countries. And there's fourteen hundred years
of track record to observe this pattern. So they took
over Egypt, which used to be Coptic Christian. They took
over Syria, which used to be Christian. They took over
all a Turkey which used to be Christian pick over
all in North Africa it used to be, and it
took Spain held it for seven hundred years until the Spaniards.

Speaker 6 (01:42:04):
Drove him out. Okay, Chris, I want you to comment
on this. This is a pretty interesting piece.

Speaker 14 (01:42:08):
Where to begin. Yeah, and William Federer is absolutely brilliant.
And by the way, just just for the record, since
you're going to pick on me sooner or later, he
did tell me that my book was absolutely brilliant at
one point. So here's the thing, the premise we need
to understand. He read it yet, I hope he has.
He thought it was brilliant. I don't think he would

(01:42:28):
say that without reading it.

Speaker 6 (01:42:31):
Okay, but I don't. I haven't. I haven't you know,
checked up on him. Okay.

Speaker 14 (01:42:35):
The key to everything he said right there, The key
is if we let it, if we let this happen.

Speaker 6 (01:42:43):
Okay, what do you mean if we let it happen?
We are letting it happen.

Speaker 14 (01:42:47):
Okay, Yes, since we've let it happen. Here's what we
need to understand. And all over the place when I'm
comment on these things, you you'll you'll see my comment
where I say, Islamist and leftists, they have the same tactics.
They have the same end game, which is total domination.
They have the same dirty tricks, the same manipulations. And

(01:43:08):
there's a reason for that is because they ultimately serve
the same master. Okay, it's no more complicated than that. Now,
this is what they're going to do. This is when
everything that he described there, I could give you parallels
for what has happened in our schools. Forget the Islamists
for the moment, but what has happened in our schools,
in our libraries, in the entertainment industry. I can go

(01:43:32):
down the list in cracker barrel where what happens is
these things. The leftists use this exact same pattern to
worm their way in. And they do it, and if
you go back to chapter six of my book I
talk about moral certitude, they do it by first telling
you you don't have a right to say what's right
and wrong. You can't say that, and then we back off,

(01:43:53):
we let them, oh, okay, I don't have a right,
so before long there's no right and wrong. And then
the next step is, well, since you're right and wrong,
which are traditional Judeo Christian principles right, since those don't count.
Now I'm going to impose my right and the left
does exactly like the Islamist on this. The next thing,
you know, we're hearing what they say is right and wrong,
and that's how you end up with trannies in the schools.

(01:44:15):
Can you imagine a sexual predator to elementary school Muslims.

Speaker 6 (01:44:21):
Muslims are against that as well.

Speaker 14 (01:44:24):
Okay, that's one of the other tricks. Okay, remember me
telling you a few minutes ago, I was comparing, uh,
you know, the tariffs versus climate change of taxes and.

Speaker 6 (01:44:32):
All that to get an edge. That's what you're saying.

Speaker 14 (01:44:36):
Any argument in the moment, and they'll completely contradict themselves.
Islam has a uh it's it's a religious dogma and
it's called takia and it's spelled t a q q
i y a takia. And what it means is you
are allowed, in the name of Mohammad to tell any lie.
You have to to advance Islam. Okay, Now, the guys

(01:45:00):
we serve the one that you say, the Judeo Christian God,
the real one. He says, Satan is the father of lies.
They say, you can tell any lie it they needed
to advance Islam. Okay, leftists are no different. Again, there's
the same principle. They will tell you anything in the
moment to dominate the discourse, and then they'll contradict themselves

(01:45:22):
in the next moment if that's what it takes to
dominate the discourse on a different topic. Everything that he
described there was a matter of our side, the traditional community,
enabling this. We sit back, we let it happen. So
where are they getting? He talked about this this emam
with all these wives and they're all getting welfare. Who's

(01:45:43):
behind that?

Speaker 11 (01:45:43):
Who?

Speaker 14 (01:45:44):
Islam didn't invent welfare? Marx did, and the leftists are
practicing it. So Islam moves in and uses it.

Speaker 6 (01:45:50):
Yeah, all right, Bill, yeh he compuch others.

Speaker 3 (01:45:54):
No.

Speaker 16 (01:45:54):
I mean, my thought is Fridergnici's will to power, right,
that the value, the common value there is like just
take power at all costs. And Nietzsche talked about that,
and that's kind of the father of leftism. But that
was the idea that you know, it's not you know,
you're talking about even lying being acceptable. That's such a
contradiction from Jeo Christianity and from you know, a manual

(01:46:16):
Kant and from our commitment to the truth and what
the truth does to people, and then what just letting
lies take over does the exact opposite to people, and
how there's no rules and leftism there's no rules except
for take power, right, And that's like it comes from
Nietzsche's Beyond Good and Evil that the only value, really
the only value in life was to get more and

(01:46:37):
more powerful, and and that's you know, that's a Nietzsche's
also displacement of religion and God. So those are my thoughts,
and that that's.

Speaker 14 (01:46:45):
A necessary move that they have to achieve before they
can they can substitute the true God with their God,
which is which is Marxism, which is power.

Speaker 16 (01:46:55):
And that's that that's a common thread. That it's a
it's a disassembling of Jesus and what Christ represents and
deconstructs that in the hearts and minds of people and
then replaces it with something else, because human beings are
still prime to you know, to sort of bow down
and sort of worship, right, but they take that out
of their life and then they're going to worship the state.

(01:47:18):
They're going to worship, you know, something else, right, A
false doctrine, so.

Speaker 14 (01:47:23):
To worship ultimately.

Speaker 16 (01:47:24):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 14 (01:47:24):
You look at you look at these these people that
are quote transitioning, They're they're transitioning their own children. How
far is that from from the people back in Moab
that were sacrificing their own children to moloc. I mean,
you're looking at people destroying their loved ones that they
should be caring for. Why because this somehow connotes virtue

(01:47:48):
on their part and progressivism and open mindedness, and they're
doing hideous things and yet they're patting themselves on the
back for it. It's the exactly as you said, they've
supplanted reality and truth for this. This we we say
it's madness. Well it's really worse than.

Speaker 2 (01:48:04):
Well, they're they're they're taking the the the Muslim concepts
are taking over.

Speaker 6 (01:48:11):
Many countries around the world.

Speaker 14 (01:48:15):
It's every place where they abandoned there they're they're Judeo
Christian principles.

Speaker 2 (01:48:20):
Yeah, yeah, Ireland, Uh, Germany, I mean it's taking over
with this kind of action. And uh, even even when
we were a young country in the Civil War and
not the Civil War but the Revolutionary War, people were

(01:48:42):
wondering who are the Muslims and why are they so
pissed off of us?

Speaker 6 (01:48:46):
And I mean, you know Africa.

Speaker 2 (01:48:51):
Yeah, but they but but we didn't know who they
were and we've found out it's it's been the same
since it's been the same since Muhammed uh existed.

Speaker 6 (01:49:02):
And one of the.

Speaker 2 (01:49:03):
Jews to go along with him as the god and
or the son of God or whatever he was labeling himself. Yeah,
it was a chief counterfeit, yea and so and so
when they did this, they said thank you, but no
thank you. He got really mad and they started writing

(01:49:26):
things like if you see a Jew behind a rock,
throw the rock at him.

Speaker 6 (01:49:32):
You know, things like that. That's still taught in Muslim
schools today.

Speaker 14 (01:49:37):
It came into America and I will tell you, I'll
give you a paraphrase to that. Uh that during the
Obama administration, he made the statement, uh, you get out
and fight and if if they bring a knife, we
bring a gun.

Speaker 6 (01:49:51):
Okay.

Speaker 14 (01:49:51):
So yeah, that this is the point is these people
are out to win. Now are they out for justice?
Or they know they care about the children until they
let them be genitally mutilated, because that's more for the cause.
You pick any issue that they jump on, and as
as I've said many times, they don't care about any
issue other than as Bill described, acquiring amassing power.

Speaker 2 (01:50:14):
Their truth, Their truth is in what works. If it works,
it's true, it doesn't matter whether it actually is true
or not.

Speaker 6 (01:50:23):
Am I wrong?

Speaker 16 (01:50:25):
I think it does matter if it's true or not,
but maybe not just to those folks. It doesn't matter
to me.

Speaker 6 (01:50:30):
I don't think it matters to them.

Speaker 16 (01:50:32):
It's interesting because I would say it always matters what
the truth is.

Speaker 6 (01:50:36):
I'm not saying that.

Speaker 2 (01:50:39):
I'm saying for them, if it works, if I if
I can get elected by a lie, if I can
get the other guy put out of office or put
in jail with a lie, I'm going to do it.

Speaker 6 (01:50:55):
And they've done that, you know, I think.

Speaker 16 (01:50:59):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 14 (01:51:00):
Let's look at what happened to President Trump in twenty seventeen,
the stuff that started between election day and inauguration day.
And General Michael Flynn, who, by the way, if you're
watching posts, you need to see what he's having having
to say, because he's he's excellent on this. He's still
trying to awaken America. Look, this is the treasonous and

(01:51:24):
he doesn't hesitate to say the treasonous betrayal of Trump
by moles that Obama left within the administration. And if
we don't bring these people to accountability, it's like any
other cancer. You leave half the tumor in place, what's
it going to do with the first opportunity?

Speaker 6 (01:51:39):
Sure? Okay, any more comments on that?

Speaker 16 (01:51:43):
Not on that subject, I yield the floor.

Speaker 6 (01:51:46):
Listen to this. You know he's a lawyer too, Did
I say that that he's he's a lawyer. He's a
proud lawyer of the United States of.

Speaker 16 (01:51:55):
America, just like Abraham Leec.

Speaker 6 (01:51:57):
That's the favatory.

Speaker 16 (01:51:59):
No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 6 (01:52:02):
Oh my god. As long as he's an honest lawyer,
that's a whole different subject.

Speaker 16 (01:52:09):
If there's ten honest lawyers in America, will you not
destroy the country?

Speaker 6 (01:52:15):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:52:17):
So, uh, what what name can can you anticipate when
you win an argument with a liberal?

Speaker 6 (01:52:26):
You had that on your site. I thought, I went on.

Speaker 14 (01:52:28):
Guy, racist, racist, nazi, fascist, homophobe. Yeah, it doesn't really matter.
The point is that they will revert to that instantly.

Speaker 2 (01:52:38):
Which is which is great because because you know you've won.
You know you've won when they say that, when they
say you're a Hitler and uh and and actually, well
that means I'm right, because you can't you can't think
of any way to combat my actual argument.

Speaker 6 (01:52:56):
In front of me. You have to call me a name. Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:53:01):
In the past, what they would do is they would
they would do that, and then our side would instantly
and too many, by the way, still do this and.

Speaker 6 (01:53:09):
Call you a name.

Speaker 14 (01:53:11):
And and the minute they do that, it's well, I
have to prove to you.

Speaker 6 (01:53:14):
Yeah, you have to prove that.

Speaker 14 (01:53:17):
I have to prove to you that I'm not that bad.
And this is when you have people like like John McCain. Well,
we have to reach across the aisle. You remember George
Bush Junior when he got in office, his big mantra
was was the new tone, and he was going to
reach across the aisle and we're all going to unify. Well,
when you have people whose agenda, as we described a
minute ago, is the acquisition of power, the only way

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to unify with them is to surrender to them. And
our side for the longest time didn't get that. But
at this point they're they're kind of they're kind of
coming unhinged because there are people like Trump out there
that that don't play that game, and it all goes back. Obviously,
it all goes back. You know, lies, like you said,
can go back to fourteen hundred years ago and more.

(01:54:01):
I take it back to Sololensky because Sololenski and his
rules for radicals codified. Here's how we lie, Here's how
we manipulate. Here's how we get the conservatives to be
afraid of admitting their conservatives and to start trying to
pander or dodge being targeted by us. And the minute

(01:54:21):
they do that, we dominate.

Speaker 6 (01:54:25):
All right. So, so, uh, we have another guest here,
you get to talk just booking. Okay. So, so Trump says,
no male ballance. Why what could go wrong? Yep?

Speaker 14 (01:54:44):
Who's going to get mad about that? I don't know
the cheaters? Yeah, you can see it coming.

Speaker 6 (01:54:52):
Yeah, paper ballots only. Oh my god, how can we
do that?

Speaker 2 (01:54:57):
You know, we warn these countries we need an identification
of you as a citizen.

Speaker 6 (01:55:04):
Oh that's right.

Speaker 14 (01:55:05):
Remember racist, Yeah, it's racist, it's terrible. Oh my god,
that accusation is actually.

Speaker 6 (01:55:15):
Dogs in here. He brought a dog in here. It's
a cute dog too. I'm sorry. All right.

Speaker 2 (01:55:21):
So, so, so how are you gonna move. Sure I
figured you would, so okay, I'm overboard. I'm overbooked, and
I love you know what.

Speaker 6 (01:55:33):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:55:33):
I love it that you came. And thank you, Bill,
appreciate you. Okay, and this is this is my next
guest coming up. He's called a bullet. He's a bullet.
He's a bullet. Okay, come on over and you can
hang out, okay if you like. Uh, Chris, Okay, I'll

(01:55:57):
hang out for a bit, all right.

Speaker 6 (01:55:59):
That's fine. By the way, where can people find you
and buy your book? Okay?

Speaker 14 (01:56:06):
My book is still available at uh at at Amazon.
Uh yeah, you just do a search on my name
Christopher Adamo or Rules for Defeating Radicals. You can still
find it there, and it still needs to be read
because they're still playing the same game and too often
they win it, but we're unmasking them.

Speaker 6 (01:56:25):
That's a great book.

Speaker 2 (01:56:27):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:56:27):
He's a great man. Just ask him.

Speaker 2 (01:56:30):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:56:30):
You know, the the ocean is friendly, it always waves back,
and it's current.

Speaker 14 (01:56:38):
It gives me a real sinking feeling.

Speaker 6 (01:56:43):
What I got a phone? Phone that's mine?

Speaker 2 (01:56:48):
Yeah, okay, thanks thanks for worrying about that, because you
know I can lose stuff easily. I can leave my
putting my putter somewhere and not know where it is,
and he always corrects me. Anyways, let me introduce this
gentleman here. No, he's not a freedom activist.

Speaker 6 (01:57:09):
Dope. I had to flip through the papers to get
this thing right.

Speaker 4 (01:57:14):
You're trying to find out who I am?

Speaker 12 (01:57:16):
Is that?

Speaker 6 (01:57:16):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:57:17):
No, just what I wrote about you, which could be
true or not true. Probably cases that I said nice
things about you, it probably wasn't. So now, oh, there
you are, Federal forest manager. He's author of books about
trout fishing around the world, dogs and cat books for

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children published, and an amazing history of America from eighteen
fifty to nineteen fifty roughly.

Speaker 4 (01:57:48):
Which is called The Last Buffalo in Kansas.

Speaker 2 (01:57:51):
All right, and here's another fellow author. This is Chris Adamo.
I don't know if you know each other.

Speaker 4 (01:57:58):
I think I've seen you on a on the podcast Chris.

Speaker 6 (01:58:01):
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 14 (01:58:03):
It's been on here a few times. I'm going to
be gone for the next couple of weeks, so Dave,
I'll try and get back to you when we're back
in town.

Speaker 2 (01:58:08):
But wait a minute, you didn't I seen I've seen
that book. I didn't give you permission? Did I give
you permission to go somewhere?

Speaker 6 (01:58:17):
I'm going to.

Speaker 14 (01:58:19):
What we have a crisis situation at home here. I
have seen that book The Last Buffalo in Kansas looks
really good and uh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:58:30):
All right, well what what what's your what's your crisis
yet you talk about?

Speaker 14 (01:58:35):
Oh yeah, just just things we got to take care
of around here. We got stuff going on.

Speaker 6 (01:58:39):
But all right, well, I'll miss you well and I'm
just stay in touch.

Speaker 14 (01:58:45):
I'll be you to but you guys keep up the
great work and all right, well we'll see you bye bye.

Speaker 6 (01:58:53):
All right, thank you so much. Have a have say
hello to your wife for us. Okay, thank you? All right? Right, so,
uh so did I say yeah? I said that? Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:59:04):
So the most important uh thing to me about Bob
is he's my golf coach and he's done a lot
for my golf game. And it's incredible, how much, how
much better and better that I understand concepts in golf
than I did before. And I want to thank you

(01:59:25):
for that here. Speaking of which, how's our other buddy
Jack doing Jack Boone?

Speaker 4 (01:59:32):
Well, of course Jack Boone is is eighty eight now, yeah,
and he went in for surgery money.

Speaker 12 (01:59:38):
I know.

Speaker 4 (01:59:40):
He has had an infection in his foot, actually two
toes and so, and he did admitate another portion of
his second toe. That being said, he called me yesterday
and said, let's go have breakfast.

Speaker 6 (01:59:54):
I said, let's go play golf.

Speaker 4 (01:59:58):
I was amazed. Yeah, going to be in the hospital,
let's go have breakfast.

Speaker 6 (02:00:03):
So we did, so we can get around. Okay, he's
got a walker, or just have a walker.

Speaker 4 (02:00:07):
But he's he's really his mobility. He's definitely gotten better.

Speaker 6 (02:00:10):
Who's a tough guy.

Speaker 4 (02:00:11):
He really tough. Yeah, absolutely tough.

Speaker 6 (02:00:14):
Yeah. Can you imagine that the guy was beating me
when he was like eighty eight.

Speaker 4 (02:00:17):
He's eighty eight years old. You're shooting seventy five seventy six.
Of course, he's an amazing.

Speaker 6 (02:00:22):
Pissing me right off, pissing me right off, you know.
But that's okay. You know he shot like a drum.
You know that, right? Yeah, I know that.

Speaker 2 (02:00:31):
Thanks for saying that, shmuck. Anyways, who said that? You're
not supposed to say that word here?

Speaker 6 (02:00:37):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (02:00:39):
Let me just tell you a trip I took.

Speaker 6 (02:00:41):
Okay, yeah, let's talk conneck. Can you tell us about
a trip? So you took I think I will.

Speaker 4 (02:00:50):
A couple of weeks ago, I was invited to several
book signings out in Kansas, and so I took a
book tour through Kansas in a couple of weeks ago,
and I went to several cities and signed lots of books.
But I went to one special place, and it's the
place where it's the epicenter of this story, the Last

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Buffalo in Kansas, which happens to be a little bitty town,
really small, two hundred and thirty four people Kerwin, Kansas,
and they're all related to you. I didn't know that
at the time, but as it turns out, we had
an event at their library.

Speaker 6 (02:01:31):
Yeah. And do they look like you too?

Speaker 4 (02:01:34):
Most of them?

Speaker 6 (02:01:36):
Oh yeah, that's rough right there.

Speaker 4 (02:01:39):
Well, my family homestead there in eighteen seventy nine. Yeah,
my great grandfather, my grandfather, my father all grew up there.

Speaker 6 (02:01:52):
Tell about your great grandfather and the names.

Speaker 4 (02:01:55):
My great grandfather was born in England. His name was
George Washington Willis, and with that name he had to
migrate to the United.

Speaker 6 (02:02:05):
States, Which is that true?

Speaker 4 (02:02:07):
I mean, well, that wasn't the reason he migrated to
the United States.

Speaker 6 (02:02:12):
But was wasn't that a problem for him to be
named that?

Speaker 4 (02:02:15):
Well, nobody ever called him George Ors.

Speaker 6 (02:02:17):
I don't think they just called him George.

Speaker 2 (02:02:19):
I think killed today, even today, that the British are
a little angst against us. Oh sure they are, yeah, okay,
And that it comes from the Revolution, doesn't it.

Speaker 4 (02:02:31):
Yeah, it's it does. And when my great grandfather came
to the United States, he came for a better life, right,
I mean he was he was a paulper and then
he came here with his brothers here.

Speaker 2 (02:02:46):
He was born in eighteen thirty six, thirty six, all right,
he was eighteen thirty six.

Speaker 6 (02:02:51):
Wow, So when he was about what.

Speaker 4 (02:02:55):
He was seventeen years old when he came seventeen.

Speaker 6 (02:02:57):
Years old with his brothers, two brothers, and they never
they split, They never saw each.

Speaker 4 (02:03:02):
Other land in New York, spent a couple of days
together and and left in separate directions and never saw
each other.

Speaker 6 (02:03:08):
Wow. Of course you couldn't email somebody then.

Speaker 4 (02:03:10):
Either, So once you once you were out of shouting distance,
communication was over.

Speaker 6 (02:03:16):
Yeah, all right. And he went his way to uh, well.

Speaker 4 (02:03:22):
He worked his way west because George, George's gold was
was to own property and so his his whole gold
in coming to the United States was to become a
large farmer, have a large farmland and a farm's farm operation.
And after he'd been here for five years, he'd made

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his way to Iowa and the Civil War started. Well,
he didn't have any money, and he'd met a wonderful
girl who her name was Annie Cook, who he wanted
to marry, but he didn't have enough money to get
married and buy a farm or anything. Civil War, if you,
if you were a volunteer in the Iowa Cavalry, you

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got fifty bucks. He volunteered, got fifty bucks on payment.

Speaker 6 (02:04:10):
Of fifty bucks.

Speaker 2 (02:04:11):
Yeah, he got fifty bucks, which is like maybe five
thousand dollars worth today.

Speaker 4 (02:04:16):
Oh, probably more than now. Yeah, but there was a
lot of money in those days. Fifty bucks in those
days was enough money to buy forty acres of public
domain land.

Speaker 6 (02:04:26):
Well, there was a deal from the army too, if well, yeah,
what happened.

Speaker 4 (02:04:32):
What happened. He served three years in the army, and
then you had a three year turn in the Civil War.
Then he reapped because if you reap, you got a
two hundred dollars bonus. Ah, big time now and you
also got thirty days leave, which he took to go
back to Iowad and marry a sweetheart.

Speaker 6 (02:04:51):
Okay, And.

Speaker 4 (02:04:54):
So with their two he made thirteen dollars a month
as a soldier and said, right, I mean, hey, that
that's pretty good pay back in those days.

Speaker 6 (02:05:04):
Okay, yea, So well yeah, free free food stuff right.

Speaker 4 (02:05:08):
Well, yeah, I wouldn't put a lot into that.

Speaker 6 (02:05:11):
Because you're killed your own food, right well.

Speaker 4 (02:05:15):
If you could find it. Yeah, most of most of
the time it was it was hard biscuits. And you know,
it was not a glamorous life and any it was
really tough and and but he did survive.

Speaker 6 (02:05:28):
And now what did he do in the army?

Speaker 4 (02:05:31):
Basically was he started out He started out as a
bugler because he knew how to play the bugle. Being
a bugler was not a glamorous job because they always
shot the buglers first.

Speaker 6 (02:05:43):
Yeah. Why did they do that?

Speaker 4 (02:05:45):
Because they're the ones that were bugling the orders to
all the troops. Yeah, so they shot the buglers first.
He got the bugle shot out of his hand. Once
he survived, which I'm glad he did well, of course, yeah,
I'm glad he did too. But after his first tour,
the farrier, the blacksmith for the for the company he

(02:06:08):
was in, did not re up, and so there was
opening he was. He learned to the blacksmith in trade
as he worked his way west Okay, and so the
company commander, who knew he had that experience, made him
the company blacksmith. And he served the rest of the
rest of his tour taking care of all the horses
for a cavalry, which.

Speaker 6 (02:06:28):
Is a big job. And didn't he make a little
more money than Oh?

Speaker 4 (02:06:31):
Yeah, he got you get he got another buck, so
he got fourteen bucks a month. Yeah, And after the
war was over, he went back to Iowa. And when
he got to Iowa, they still didn't have any money.
Land was expensive to Iowa because it was it had
been settled for some time, and he was only able

(02:06:53):
to buy a very small farm. And over the next
decade they had set seven children, and when the seventh
child was born, they decided they had to do something else.
And what they did was they decided to homestead out west.

Speaker 6 (02:07:11):
What were you doing in Iowa?

Speaker 4 (02:07:13):
That was he was farming, but he had a small
ten acre farm. Yeah, it wasn't enough to he for
his family, but he couldn't support a family, and so
he would. He had taken up did you have a
house there that you what kind of a house? Was
just a frame home, a small frame home. But by
the time their seventh child was born, it was too small, right,

(02:07:35):
And so he took all of his seven children and
his wife Annie, and they decided that they were going
to become pioneers and homestead the west. And as they
looked at the maps of land still available for homesteading,
Kansas and Nebraska were the two closest choices, and they
chose western Kansas.

Speaker 6 (02:07:56):
Why is this was a little warmer there?

Speaker 4 (02:07:58):
And well, because there was a lot more territory available
at that point and he was searching for good land.

Speaker 6 (02:08:06):
So so where did the money come to buy the land?

Speaker 4 (02:08:08):
And how much he had saved money? But in the
Homestead Act, you didn't have to have any money to homestead.
You could claim one hundred and sixty acres under the
Homestead Act if you could improve it over a five
year period. If you could improve it over a five
year period, then you had free title, clear title.

Speaker 6 (02:08:32):
Could you get any more than that? Or do you
have to buy it?

Speaker 4 (02:08:35):
Two things?

Speaker 6 (02:08:36):
He was a Civil War veteran. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:08:38):
The Act said as a Civil War veteran, you could
perfect your homestead in a year if you made improvements,
so he could have free title on one hundred and
sixty acres. The law also said you could purchase an
adjacent one hundred and sixty acres for two hundred for
two dollars and twenty five cents an acre, which he did,
so he had three hundred and sixty acres under the

(02:08:59):
original and that happened.

Speaker 6 (02:09:01):
In that's a lot of land. It is a lot
of land.

Speaker 4 (02:09:04):
Yeah, But to farm in those days, particularly in the West,
you had to have a lot of land because mostly
you're raising corn and wheat, and corn was totally water dependent.
If you had a bad water year, which happened all
the time in Kansas, the corn didn't produce. So one
of the things that all the farmers out in Kansas

(02:09:26):
were doing in the late eighteen hundreds was searching for
drought resistant corn, which they found h Russian red imported.
Russian red imported from Russia was the drought resistance strain
that everybody started using out there.

Speaker 6 (02:09:43):
Back It did work all right, was it actually red?

Speaker 4 (02:09:48):
It had a little bit of a cast to it,
but red did it taste red? Was more a statement
on where it came from.

Speaker 6 (02:09:56):
How did it taste? It tasted like wheat?

Speaker 23 (02:10:00):
Wait a minute, so you already had the wheat and
it was meled into flour, molded the flour, and the
flower was used for all of making at that point.

Speaker 6 (02:10:12):
All right, the ones you did you have any animals?
Did you? Did you actually see a lot of buffaloes
out there?

Speaker 12 (02:10:20):
No?

Speaker 4 (02:10:21):
What I saw were windmills and oil wheels. Okay, but
there's a big change out in Kansas that really did
surprise me. When I was out there, I didn't see
a lot of wheat, which was the main crop back
in the day. What I saw were all kinds of
different crops, milo, sorghum, a lot of corn. Everything is

(02:10:45):
now irrigated farming out there now instead of dry land
farming as it once was. And it's just a total
change in the crop structure, which which I thought was
really interesting because that's not what I expected to see.
But in one hundred years, things have really changed in
the agricultural field. And the agricultural field right now is

(02:11:07):
huge machines, harassing a lot, a lot less labor intensive
than it once.

Speaker 6 (02:11:13):
Was John Deere has taken over.

Speaker 4 (02:11:17):
John Deere and KBODA and all the other big operations.

Speaker 2 (02:11:20):
Yeah so so, but you were doing plowing with donkeys
and horses and things like that. This was the horse era,
corse era, right? And how many horses? How many heads
of how many horses did you have to do with
three hundred and sixty.

Speaker 4 (02:11:37):
My grandfather's operation, he had. What happened as the land
developed out in the Kansas Prairies is that that the
Willis operation became the largest horse farming operation in that
part of the state. They ended up farming several thousand

(02:11:58):
acres with horses.

Speaker 6 (02:12:00):
And did you ever hear of the Kentucky Derby?

Speaker 12 (02:12:05):
Was that?

Speaker 6 (02:12:05):
What is that?

Speaker 4 (02:12:07):
Racing horses for forty five years?

Speaker 2 (02:12:08):
I know, I know, I'm asking you. Did you ever
did you ever get a horse in the Kentucky Derby?

Speaker 3 (02:12:14):
No?

Speaker 6 (02:12:15):
The horses? I I mean, you couldn't run a buffalo
in a race, there's but you could run horses in
a race.

Speaker 4 (02:12:21):
Okay, when you farm, you use quarter horses in the
standard rids. I had quarter horses. I also had Tennessee
walking horses. I did I did go to the to
the National Celebration with Tennessee walking horses, which is the
World Championships.

Speaker 6 (02:12:38):
And is this is this just a sort of like
how they look kind of a competition or is it
it's actually you're not racing.

Speaker 4 (02:12:47):
Tennessee walking horses are a performance horse and they're measured
on how they perform at various gates. Okay, there's a
running walk, a walk and as well as a canner
and and they're evaluated on how they perform.

Speaker 6 (02:13:00):
So did you win anything was these horses? Oh?

Speaker 4 (02:13:02):
Yes, we had a Midwest champion for five years in
a row.

Speaker 6 (02:13:05):
No kidding. Wow, how old were you with then?

Speaker 4 (02:13:09):
I was in my forties, but my girls were in
their teens and they thought it was wonderful and I
did it for them. That's whole the whole horse operation.

Speaker 6 (02:13:16):
Was for them. So that was was that? Where was
this in the nineties and you were in Kansas? Still? No, no, No,
I was here in Missouri, Missouri. Okay.

Speaker 4 (02:13:25):
I had I had some land here in Missouri where
we raise horses, right, and so we did that. I've
had horses here in Missouri for forty five years.

Speaker 6 (02:13:35):
How about that? Yeah? You still got how many it left?

Speaker 4 (02:13:39):
I've got three? I retired ten that were just great horses,
and I've just left them retired and you can still
ride a couple of them.

Speaker 6 (02:13:47):
But what do they do? They eat a lot of
grass and cost a lot of money. Yeah, okay, pretty much. Well,
my wife here is a farmer, you know, she's kind
of a farmer. Look at that? That cute We wanted another?
Are use that? Are you giving that? Thus?

Speaker 4 (02:14:07):
I can't because that's that's dog's dog.

Speaker 2 (02:14:10):
Yeah, it's dog's dog. Yeah, look a, So this is
this is the book show that to show that in
the camera. Okay, you be me? No, oh, but he's
so cute. Damn well this is great.

Speaker 4 (02:14:30):
Yeah, I've I've got four children's but I've got four
children's books coming out.

Speaker 6 (02:14:36):
This is the first one, and.

Speaker 4 (02:14:39):
All of them kind of lend themselves to toy animals
like this, and and so we're beginning to develop maybe
a group of animals to go along.

Speaker 2 (02:14:50):
You're not gonna believe this, but I got somebody calling
me from Hawaitey right now, So.

Speaker 6 (02:14:58):
She's there. That would be your Yeah, but you can
hang out well if you want to.

Speaker 4 (02:15:04):
Already my time, No, I got I've got some time.
You got some time with I can stay for another
all right, a few minutes.

Speaker 6 (02:15:10):
I want you to listen to this.

Speaker 2 (02:15:12):
And I don't want a lot of input right now
because I've never met this lady and I don't want
her to be scared or anything like that. But she
doesn't look like the kind that's going to get scared.
But let me introduce you to her. She's a freedom activist,
fitness and wellness expert, author of for UH four time

(02:15:34):
awarding award winning books, and she is one of the
books is End Dieting Hell. And she lives in Hawaii.
Her name is Michelle Melndez. Aloha, did I say? I'm
here with a gentleman by the name of Bob Willis

(02:15:58):
who used to fish in where in Hawaii?

Speaker 4 (02:16:02):
I fi pre well fished all the islands, but it
manually fished the reefs. I didn't didn't do any deep fishing.

Speaker 6 (02:16:07):
All right.

Speaker 2 (02:16:08):
Anyways, I'm not sure that that's a book too, though,
isn't it. There's another book there, the Great Maui Land Grab.

Speaker 24 (02:16:18):
Yeah, yes, okay, that book one third place in the
American Book Fest under true crime, because that's exactly what
it was.

Speaker 10 (02:16:26):
I live.

Speaker 24 (02:16:27):
I live on the Big Island of Habai in Aloha, Dave,
thank you so much.

Speaker 6 (02:16:32):
For having me on Helloa Alloa back.

Speaker 2 (02:16:34):
Okay, So, so, so what is the what is the
background around the great Maui land grab I mean? And
how does this connect to the to the California fires?

Speaker 24 (02:16:49):
Exactly exactly. The book that I wrote is actually in
its fourth edition because I added twenty one La fire
oddities that people need to know about. You know, they
did in La the La and Maui water turned off
no warning evacuation notices, Questionable leadership, extreme questionable leadership. The

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pictures in my book are gonna shock people, especially the
pictures of uh, there's bodies that there's no possible way
that the bodies were in a regular fire, because they
weren't burned, they were charred. They're recognizable. This one body,
you can see the corn roll, you can see the

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braids in the person's hair, and their whole entire body
is just charred but completely recognizable, the fingers, the arms, everything.
And in irregular fire, a body burns from the outside
ind and you just have a skeleton or ashes left.
There's even a picture of a dog with its ears,

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its popads, its nose, it's fur. You can see the
the texture of its fur, but it's completely charred. And
then there's a picture of a cat which is still standing. Dave,
the cat is a first responder took this picture and

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the first responder had to sign a non disclosure. What
emergency the first responders go into where they have to
sign a non disclosure? That's that, you know, the media
wasn't allowed in for thirty days. For thirty days, no
fly zone. You couldn't fly drones, nothing over Lahina to
they spent two point three million dollars on a five

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mile long dust screen twelve feet high, and they put
it around the entire perimeter of Lahina.

Speaker 6 (02:18:47):
You know, so there's there's well when did they do that?
Was that during the fire? After the fire?

Speaker 24 (02:18:53):
Ten days after the fire? It was approved ten days
after the fire. Two point three million dollar dust screen
and put up so quickly. And let me tell you something,
this is Hawaii. Nothing happens quickly.

Speaker 6 (02:19:05):
Here.

Speaker 24 (02:19:06):
This descript up so fast they had they had these, Uh,
you couldn't get near the burn zone. If you tried
to go and take a picture, stop officers were on
you and they would say, you know, you have to
leave or you're gonna they would threaten you with being arrested.

Speaker 2 (02:19:24):
Which who are these officers you're talking about local cops
or army type cops or what.

Speaker 24 (02:19:31):
That's a really good question because they were in these
SUVs that were not normal for the officers there. So
I'm not sure who what you know, if there were
some of them probably were local, I'm sure, but I
don't think all of them because they were in a very,
very very different cars for a police officer here on
the islands.

Speaker 2 (02:19:51):
Well, you want to talk about energy weapons and things
like this, that people, people and animals were burned from
the inside out, How does that happen?

Speaker 6 (02:20:04):
I have never heard of that.

Speaker 24 (02:20:05):
Before, So you know, I was when this happened. I
started interviewing experts, and I interviewed a thirty three year firefighter,
retired fire captain, a forty eight year arborist. So what
happened with the arboist is that these are trees. The
trees didn't burn. They some of them burned from the

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inside out. And that's not a true. The only way
a tree is going to burn from the inside out
is it's hit by lightning.

Speaker 6 (02:20:31):
That's it.

Speaker 24 (02:20:32):
So I asked the arborius. But these trees, and not
only that dave, but the entire When that dust screen
went up, the trees on the burn's own side still
had their leaves.

Speaker 6 (02:20:44):
They were all dro The leaves didn't burn, but the
inside of the tree did.

Speaker 24 (02:20:48):
You can see the picture the whole tree going over
and you see these dried leaves. And I asked the arborus,
I said, how is this possible? He said, Michelle, The
chemistry of the fire doesn't recognize organic material. This is
why bodies didn't burn the way that they're supposed to burn. Now,
some did in the houses because the heat was because

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it was so hot, But but the trees didn't burn.
The bodies outside didn't burn. A dog in the middle
of the street didn't burn. So he said, the chemistry,
he said, Michelle, this is a microwave chemical fire, chemistry fire,
and so the microwaves don't recognize organic material. It's like

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you put a chicken breast in a microwave oven. It's
going to heat the water inside the chicken and it
doesn't burn the chicken, though the chicken doesn't catch on fire.

Speaker 2 (02:21:40):
Okay, so you're making this sound like it's intentional, I believe,
And so what evidence do you have that this was
intentional the.

Speaker 24 (02:21:51):
Well, all of the pictures that you have is just
not normal. It's not normal. I don't know. Well, I
do know that now we are Alina where the fire
was used to It's a very important part of the islands.
It used to be the capital when the when the
king King Mame ruled on all the islands, Leahina was
the capital of the of the islands. It's a very

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special location. Plus, they couldn't build, they could not. MAOIs
set to be the first smart island, a smart city,
smart island in twenty fifteen. Japanese and Hawaiian stakeholders decided
on this with no legislation, no people, no testimony, So
Maui set to be the first smart island. Leahina could
not be rebuilt because it was a it was a

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historically preserved and so there was a law you could
not rebuild there. So but now you can. Here's the
other thing. Dave, the governor, suspended twenty two laws one
month before the fire. And the first law that he suspended,
and this is because of he said it was an
emergency because of homelessness. But the first law he suspended

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was the historic preservation law. So this this man is
something else. Not only that, but he's now has nine
emergency proclamations in the state of Hawaii, nine emergency proclamations
based on mostly mostly administrative issues, and he has suspended
thirty two laws.

Speaker 2 (02:23:19):
Okay, this is this isn't all the islands that comprise
of Hawaii, right?

Speaker 6 (02:23:25):
Correct?

Speaker 2 (02:23:26):
Okay, So I don't wow, was there like, how did
the fire start? What was there lightning or was there
something that was physical that could have happened that to
start this fire?

Speaker 24 (02:23:44):
So this is interesting because the Maui fired report says, well,
there was one that was supposedly started by arson, but
there's another one that was supposedly started with the electric company. However, however,
this is so interesting. The Maui fire people who investigators.

(02:24:05):
They on the video on their interview when they were
giving this report, they spent ten minutes congratulating themselves with
how great they are. Then in the report all of
their names are redacted. You don't know who did the report?

Speaker 6 (02:24:18):
Okay, what were they celebrating?

Speaker 24 (02:24:21):
Hell, what great investigators they are, What great investigators they are.
They literally spent ten minutes talking about what a great
job they did. And then not one of their names
is on the reports. It's crossed off. This also happened
with the Maui Emergency Center. The Maui Emergency Center sign

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in sheet. When you're supposed to go in, you're supposed
to fine in. Find out they redacted most of the names.
You don't know who was there and who left, and
who signed in and whatnot. And this one person who
used to work for the Maui Emergency Center said, in
forty years, he's never seen a signing sheet that looked
like that with blacked out names.

Speaker 2 (02:25:05):
Okay, so this is an anomaly. This has never happened
before in Hawaii's what you're saying.

Speaker 6 (02:25:10):
Is that correct?

Speaker 24 (02:25:12):
That's correct? That is correct.

Speaker 6 (02:25:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (02:25:14):
Yes. The thing is too is that Lehina sits underneath
the volcano, underneath the mountain. So they said the winds
were so strong, the winds were so strong and they
were going everywhere. That's very very rare for Leahina because
Lehina sits under a mountain and the winds were coming east,

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they were coming toward the mountain. So the mountain should
have protected Leahina, but it didn't protect it. And then
Mark Finan of Kron's kCi Channel three news. He actually
he was the chief meteorologist. He went on live television
during the fire and he said, because there was a hurricane,

(02:25:54):
Hurricane Dora, which was six hundred miles to the west
of Maui, and he said he really doubts that Dora
had anything to do with the with the wind because
it was going away from the islands. The wind that
was was literally going with it with the hurricane. So there,
you know, it's it's very questionable what's going on over that.

Speaker 2 (02:26:15):
So the governor uh I saw a picture of the
governor testifying at the U n That's correct, what is that?
Because he because of a fire in Lahana right.

Speaker 24 (02:26:30):
So to the United Nations. This is what got me
started in it because I was so infuriated about what
he said. First, why does a governor go to the
United Nations at all? There's no reason for him to
go to speed.

Speaker 6 (02:26:41):
I don't know. Is there a history of a governor
of a state going to the I don't.

Speaker 24 (02:26:46):
I don't think so. There could be, but I don't
think so. Okay, But the thing he said, the one
thing he said was climate change. Climate change. And here's
the thing. If you guys are watching this and you
really want to understand what the experts they of climate change.
You can see the World Climate Declaration World Climate Declaration.

(02:27:07):
Click on the pdf. There's now two thousand credentialed scientists
we're talking meteorologists, geologists, physicists that have all signed this
World Climate Declaration saying there's no climate emergency? Is there
climate change? Every second of the day. You can see
their name, you can see what their profession is, and

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you can see what country there are. The last time
I checked, there was four hundred and fifty five credentialed
scientists from the United States that all say there's no
climate emergency. The reason why they want us leaving climate
change is to bring in all of these rules and
basically bring in all these smart cities, renewable energy, all

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of it. And that's what's going on now.

Speaker 2 (02:27:54):
Interestingly enough, the gentleman, and I use that word loosely,
that's here is a forestry expert and work for the
federal government. And just by coincidence, I got him here too.
He's also a good friend of mine, Bob Willis, Bob,
what do you think of this so far?

Speaker 4 (02:28:15):
Well, one of the task I had when I was
a manager for the Forest Service was managing the fire program.
I did that for a decade, and so you know
what you're talking about. What the Forest Service does is
extinguish large forest fires. They're very good at it. And
what you find when you start dealing with large fires

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is that fires create their own weather. When a fire
gets big enough, it creates up brass in its own
weather associated with the area around the fire. So what
you see is a lot of wind coming in from
other places into the fire zone and going up into
the large fire that's been created. The other thing I

(02:28:58):
would say is that most people that don't that die
in fires don't get burned to death. They die of
a phisiciation. What happens is when you're in the fire zone,
you're breathing the fire. No, all the air is consumed
in the fire, so there's no air to breathe. So
pictures if yeah, but if you're in a fire, in

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the fire zone, a lot of people die from inssiscation.

Speaker 6 (02:29:25):
All right, she's going to show you some pictures you
can see, right, Yeah.

Speaker 24 (02:29:29):
Let's see here. Okay, it's tell me when it's up er.

Speaker 6 (02:29:34):
Yeah, it's up.

Speaker 2 (02:29:37):
Yeah, I got north Carolina up there a man while
we fire two thousand and twenty three.

Speaker 4 (02:29:44):
The one thing I would say about Maui is well, hold.

Speaker 6 (02:29:46):
On, let her explain the picture first.

Speaker 24 (02:29:48):
Let me get the right one. Hold on the second,
because there's a different one that I wanted to show you.

Speaker 6 (02:29:54):
Guys.

Speaker 24 (02:29:57):
Let's sen here, I mean from studio.

Speaker 6 (02:29:59):
Go ahead and go ahead, talk though, Bob.

Speaker 4 (02:30:00):
Well, the one thing I've been to the high several
times and it's it was a beautiful community.

Speaker 6 (02:30:05):
I love the area.

Speaker 4 (02:30:06):
Yeah, I used to go snorkeling out there. There was
a place called snorkel Bob's. It was terrific and it's
it is an old time community that was that was
built out of wood. So once you got a fire
started in the area, it was very hard to extinguish
because everything in the town was wood. And once it

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got large enough, you couldn't you couldn't fight it. It
had to burn itself out. And that's what happened.

Speaker 6 (02:30:33):
Okay, Is that does that mean anything to you?

Speaker 24 (02:30:37):
That's not what happened. So for some reason I'm not
able to get the right one here.

Speaker 6 (02:30:41):
All right, Well, don't worry about that.

Speaker 24 (02:30:43):
So okay, let's see here upload why.

Speaker 6 (02:30:48):
Don't you Why don't you counter what he said? If
you can't, Oh.

Speaker 24 (02:30:52):
Yeah, the sure the bodies weren't affixiated because they were charred.
The whole body is charred, is black. The whole entire
body is black. You can see the braids in the hair,
you can see the fingers, you can see the whole arm.
I'll send you a book. You send send me your address,
I'll send you a book. The other thing is is
the one picture that I wanted to show you was

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was Tubs Paradise, La and Maui, and all of the
houses are white ash. All of the houses are disintegrated
into white ash. There's no fridge, there's no stove, there's
no toilet, but the entire forest around Tubbs Paradise uh
palm trees in Maui uh La had regular the regular

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trees in the in the neighborhood, all of the trees
are still there. They're the pine trees, the palm fronds.
But yet the house in the this these two pictures
that I wanted to show you, where you see the
rows and rows of houses disintegrated into white ash. There's
nothing left, but the entire forest around is completely there.

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There's no, there's no fire path that shows how the
fire got to the tree to the houses. There's there's
nothing that shows where that is. So it's it wasn't affixiation.
I will even show you in my book. There's a
body that is half charred. It's literally on the right
side of the body is just has a line almost

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directly down the middle. It's not directly, but the entire arm,
the right arm, is floating off the ground. The right
arm is charred, black, charred, and it's floating off the ground.
And you see the fingers.

Speaker 12 (02:32:38):
It's it looks like this.

Speaker 24 (02:32:39):
It's a it's a wrist that looks like this, and
it's off the ground by about three inches. And the
whole entire right side of the body is black. The
left side of the body is normal. There's nothing wrong
with the left side of the body. So these were
not affixiations that these were charred bodies. There's a woman
who said that her her child was found in their

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house holding his dog, and the body was completely recognizable.
It was black charred, but it was recognizable, and she
said that she believes God left him that way so
she would recognize him. That's not how bodies burned. I
interviewed again a thirty three year firefighter slash retired fire captain,

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and I asked him about this and he said, and
I said, I said, is this normal? He goes, Michelle,
nothing about this fire is normal. The arborist he went
to OPRA one hundred fire locations sites and he said, Michelle,
there's only a handful of these that are normal. The
Tubs fire picture that I wanted to show you guys again,
same thing. This is a drone picture. This is up

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in the air and all the houses are white ash,
but all the trees around the entire neighborhood are still
standing up.

Speaker 4 (02:33:56):
Does that sound a little weird to you, Bob, Well,
I think any time you run into white ash, it
means the intensity of the fire was hottest there. It
was greater in the area with the white ash, okay
areas that don't have that.

Speaker 6 (02:34:08):
And none of the trees being affected.

Speaker 4 (02:34:12):
Well, the trees are probably on the periphery zone, so
they they're not quite as hot a brew.

Speaker 6 (02:34:16):
They had a periphery year zone.

Speaker 24 (02:34:18):
You're right next to it, the one tree, some of
the trees that were right next to them. Because as
far as I know, is what I understand with fire
is that if a tree is supposed to be there's
not supposed to be branches, there's not supposed to be leaves,
it'll be a black stick. If anything's left, it'll be
a black stick. These trees are intact with dried leaves.

(02:34:40):
The leaves are still on them. The palm fronds. If
you've ever put a palm frond in a fire, it
like lights up like a fire cracker. But these palm
fronds are above. There's an entire parking lot, yeah, where
all of the cars are are are totally destroyed. The
glass is melted out, the engine blocks were melted out.

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But the trees that were standing in the parking lot
are still there with their leaves above the cars, dried
dried leaves. And let me tell you, guys, there was
in twenty sixteen, there was a Direct Energy Weapons Systems
Acquisition Act passed through Congress where Congress took over the
direct Energy Weapons program from the Defense Department because the

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Defense Department was worried that even though they spent six
billion dollars since the nineteen sixties, that they could not
bring that that direct Energy weapons program to fruition. Congress
took over the direct Energy Weapons Systems program.

Speaker 6 (02:35:41):
When did they do this twenty sixteen? That was twenty
twenty sixteen.

Speaker 24 (02:35:46):
Okay, a Direct Energy Systems Act of twenty sixteen. It
will come up.

Speaker 6 (02:35:51):
And where was the water? Did you guys have water
to put out the fires like La La had.

Speaker 24 (02:35:59):
With the no water? We had our water in Maui.
I don't live on Maui, live on the Big Island,
but in Maui the water was being diverted to a
one farmer, one farmer, and they literally told the fire
department that they had to get the farmer's permission to
bring the water back to Lahina because they literally diverted
the water. So zero water, zero warning.

Speaker 6 (02:36:21):
You got a whole ocean there, I see it behind you.
What about that?

Speaker 24 (02:36:27):
Yes, And we have the best warning system in the world.
In fact, during the tsunami warning I was getting alerts
on my phone get to higher ground, get to higher ground.
Nobody's cell phone service was turned off in the morning
of the fire. The fire happened in the afternoon and
cell phone service was turned off, and cell phone service
was turned off for an entire month in the Lina

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burn zone. You could not go into the Liino burn zone.
No media, no, no, no. Homeowners couldn't go back for
ninety days. Media couldn't go in for thirty days. That's
the violation of freedom of the press.

Speaker 6 (02:37:03):
What other motives?

Speaker 2 (02:37:06):
What are the motives that if you're saying this is
a world kind of action, what other motives could there be?

Speaker 24 (02:37:20):
The renewable energy companies and electric companies are the ones
that a that will profit in my opinion or my research,
actually La Smart City, North Carolina smart city. And there's
also weather warfare that's happening. And if people don't believe that,
there's the Weather Modification Act passed through Congress was in

(02:37:41):
October of nineteen seventy six. Whether Modification Act. We do
have ability to control the weather. There's thousands of patents
to control to What about.

Speaker 6 (02:37:52):
The floods of floods in Texas recently?

Speaker 24 (02:37:56):
Yes, well check this out. Bill Gates was actually called
the Hurricane Tamer by ABC in two thousand and nine
because him he and along with twelve other inventors, created
a hurricane and tornado control device. Does how does a
hurricane Helene? How does a Category four hurricane go inland

(02:38:17):
all the way to North Carolina and stop over and
man sit on top of a mountain. That's like impossible. Uh,
we do have satellite images of.

Speaker 6 (02:38:27):
This.

Speaker 24 (02:38:28):
There's a frequencies that is that we believe is moving
the hurricane. And because that doesn't happen, hurricane for does
not go inland to North Carolina and just sit on
top of a mountain. So there is weather warfare happening.
And again that act, you guys, is October sixteenth, I
believe it's sixteenth, nineteen seventy six Weather Modification Act pass

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through Congress. So there's weather warfare that's happening that nobody's
talking about there. But it's climate change. Climate change happens
every single day, but no one's talking about the weather
modifications that happen all the time. And they have ability
to increase tornadoes, to move tornadoes and her and hurricanes.

(02:39:12):
They have that ability.

Speaker 6 (02:39:14):
Uh So do you not think they have that ability? Bob?

Speaker 4 (02:39:17):
I don't think they have that ability. I think that's
one of the reasons that.

Speaker 6 (02:39:20):
Well, why why why don't they know? They have They
have planes that spread stuff around the clouds.

Speaker 4 (02:39:28):
We know that, right, Yeah, but you're talking local events
and and and I don't know and weather is not
this is there a local event? They are not local
events there, What do you mean, they're they're worldwide? Their worldwide.
That that is the outcome of a local event. Okay, Yeah,
what happened in Lehana may or may not be weather related.
It's hard to say at this point in time. Certainly

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we like to argue by the way, certainly it's fire
related and there was there was a major confliguration there
and that fire created fire. Weather and lots of strange
things happen. But it's not unusual in a fire zone
to get hotspots and coal spots. In a large fire,
you will find areas that haven't been burned. I mean
the trees are standing and they're not burned because the

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fire has its own path and follows the fuel load
and that creates So so you're.

Speaker 2 (02:40:20):
Saying that this is all normal, I'm seeing saying that
this is this is something that's totally different than what
you're saying.

Speaker 6 (02:40:29):
I think what what I'm saying is that that what's
going to happen to this property? I would like to
know what's going to happen to this property?

Speaker 2 (02:40:38):
Is it going to be rebuilt for the for the
people that were there, or is it going to be
sold off to the hotels and the electric companies and
things like that.

Speaker 4 (02:40:48):
Boy, that's a good question.

Speaker 24 (02:40:49):
A year after a year, one house has been built.

Speaker 6 (02:40:52):
One one house has been built after a year. That's
not normal to you.

Speaker 4 (02:40:56):
Well, I've been there many times, I know, and that
is prime time property. I mean, it is exactly a
beautiful area, exactly what I'm saying. And that's a motive there,
isn't it Why.

Speaker 24 (02:41:09):
They've been trying to buy the many They were trying
to buy out many of the locals there four years,
for years before.

Speaker 2 (02:41:16):
This happen, So everybody knew it was that this place,
which is probably one of the best places you can
buy land anywhere in the world, is special. This is
a special part of Hawaii, a special part of America.

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And anybody that could get this property for a reasonable price,
or even get it at all, probably is looking to
make a lot of money, either hotels or whatever.

Speaker 24 (02:41:53):
The businesses the businesses that burned. No business has been
allowed to rebuild yet, no homes on the coast have
been allowed to rebuild. And I do have a question
for you. So there there's a patent a US patent
for a laser generated laser beam that has a UH
that uses a titanium sapphire and sapphire is blue, and
there's a patent for this and it so let me

(02:42:16):
just ask you this. There's there were things that did
not that were in the fire, blue that didn't burn.
And we believe that through science scientists that I've researched,
they said that if you have a blue sapphire crystal
with with a laser, that the things that are blue
won't burn because they're the exact same wavelength and frequency

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of that crystal. There was a guy who went in
the day after the fire and he found nine blue
T shirts in the white ash. Literally picked him up,
had to shake off the white ash. No holes, no
cine marks, nothing. He found a blue paper ticket that
was for a submarine ride that he literally pulled out

(02:43:00):
of the white ash, and the white ash is dropping
off of this blue paper ticket, completely intact, no holes,
no Sinde marks. There were seven blue umbrellas that were
right next to a building that was gone. Blue umbrellas,
no Sinde marks, no holes, nothing at all.

Speaker 6 (02:43:21):
Does that sound a little peculiar to you, sir?

Speaker 4 (02:43:24):
It's hard to predict fire. Fire behavior is hard to
predict burn information. I've seen fires where things totally are
untouched and you can't explain.

Speaker 6 (02:43:35):
Okay, does this have any relationship to LA?

Speaker 24 (02:43:39):
Yeah, the same thing happened in LA.

Speaker 2 (02:43:41):
Same thing happened in La. Okay, so how's that? How's
that for setting a couple of doubts in your your
fluid bream.

Speaker 4 (02:43:52):
I know enough about fire weather to know that you
can't predict it, and you can't you can't predict it.

Speaker 2 (02:43:57):
But it's the same thing's happening in l A at
approximately the same time, with approximately the same kind of
situation where the property hasn't been rebuilt, and that they're
probably going to sell it off or do something with it.

Speaker 6 (02:44:12):
Those are political decisions, and.

Speaker 2 (02:44:14):
I know, but this is this is not this is
not a safe coincidence to say, oh, yeah, that's just
an accident.

Speaker 6 (02:44:21):
I don't think so, yes, go ahead.

Speaker 8 (02:44:24):
Just kind of looking here. I was curious then that
what exact areas of LA were affected during their fire,
and it really hit a couple of areas, including Pasadena, California,
very hard, which is very high priced real estate. They're
saying that the fires caused not only widespread destruction, but
some of the most combined losses estimated in US history

(02:44:48):
due to fire.

Speaker 6 (02:44:49):
And and somehow they didn't have any water in l A.
What another coincidence the ocean.

Speaker 2 (02:44:55):
They're in the ocean, for God's sakes, and they were
they didn't any water either place. How's this too many coincidence?
Is for a man like you, who is brilliant and
his experiences, there's too many, too many things happening. It
was I say, I know, I know, you have more
experience than I do.

Speaker 6 (02:45:16):
Well, I think one of the fallacies that people have
is that you can put these.

Speaker 4 (02:45:20):
Large fires out with water. You can't. The only way
you can control these large.

Speaker 6 (02:45:25):
Fires, maybe you can't. But they didn't have any water.

Speaker 4 (02:45:28):
Well, that was a political decision in California, where they
did not store sufficient water in the reservoirs based on
environmental circumstances. They released water for snail darters in a
variety of other things. So they didn't have enough reserve
water in California to put out the fires. Okay, that's

(02:45:49):
that's the biggest problem they faced. But the real issue
with large fires is you can't put it out with water.
You can subdue it, but you end up putting it
out by either controlling it to where it burns itself out.
Are you backfire against it where you create other fires
that will burn into the fire and put put the
perimeter out. That's the way you control large wallfires. Now,

(02:46:10):
in the situation of the high that fire could have
been impacted with availability of water, the fires in California,
the fires in California, you're probably not okay.

Speaker 24 (02:46:21):
Well, Dave, there's a you know what. You can have
your person go to Great Maui Land grab book dot
com because I have pictures on that site. That's my book,
Great Maui Grab Book.

Speaker 6 (02:46:31):
Why'd you trade books? He's got books too.

Speaker 24 (02:46:36):
If your person goes to that website and then scrolls down,
you'll see the dog that's completely charred in the middle
of the road. And animals will hide themselves in a
torn in an earthquake or a hurricane or whatever. They're
going to go under something. This dog was in the
middle of the road, completely charged, and you're going to
see some of the trees also there.

Speaker 2 (02:46:57):
So yeah, I think I think we need further investigation.
I think you need to fly out to Hawaii. Of course,
I'm not I'm not paying for it.

Speaker 4 (02:47:05):
You know that Dave Winebomb show. If I got it
lie Man.

Speaker 2 (02:47:11):
Kathy Sander Kathy's Sandford Dylan a great fan of the show.
He said, normal to have thirteen tornadoes going at the
same time across three states. If you don't believe that
weather modification going on, pull your head out of the sand.

Speaker 6 (02:47:29):
I think that was for you. I go ahead and
keep going. This is great. I love this.

Speaker 2 (02:47:39):
So wait a minute, I almost want to go to this.
But are we done talking about the fires here? Because
I think there's just there's there's a confliction between you
and Bob Willis. His name is Bob Willis.

Speaker 24 (02:47:52):
By the way, I love to send him my book.

Speaker 6 (02:47:54):
I will give me your address.

Speaker 4 (02:47:57):
I'm not going to.

Speaker 6 (02:48:03):
Send it to send it to me. You got my address, right, yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:48:06):
Send it to Dave. I'll get it all right.

Speaker 6 (02:48:08):
There's also address sixty five in uh Oak Metal Oak
Metal Drive Rall of Missouri, sixty five four zero one. Well,
you're gonna get some stuff now, but okay, good, yeah,
I don't care. You rock them, honey, you're rocome. She's

(02:48:31):
moving out now. It's my wife Lisa.

Speaker 8 (02:48:35):
By the way, I was trying to get in there
and say we can also email Michelle your address.

Speaker 6 (02:48:43):
Checking account. I don't care. I'm an old man. What
the hell I gotta worry about? All right?

Speaker 2 (02:48:50):
So anyways, okay, so let's see, So you're saying that
the the l a fire was Maui two point zero?
Is that what you said?

Speaker 6 (02:49:03):
Yes?

Speaker 24 (02:49:04):
Absolutely. What people understand is that and this goes into politics.
But this country is not what people think it is.
This this country is literally owned by the elite bankers.
And that was after the Civil War. It's a very,
very long story, but this is what's going on all
over the country. It is because they of the renewable

(02:49:24):
energy companies, the electric companies, they're they're the ones when
you look at who's going to gain you look at
you follow, of course, you follow the money and what's
happening through these attacks, and they are attacks on on
the on the American people. But this is also coming
through people's general plans, because what's happening is the my

(02:49:47):
big on the big island here that I live on,
we have a general plan over three hundred pages long,
over almost four hundred actions. Compared to prior general plans
that had that were fifty pages long here on the
Big Island. We've been fighting it for a year now
and it's this is what's coming is they're wanting to

(02:50:07):
clustered people into houses. They're wanting to do the fifteen
minute cities. They want to create natural they want to
change our ag land into natural land, meaning limited farming,
limited people, limited build. So we've been fighting it for
a long time and it's coming to a head right now.
But the reason why I'm saying this is because everybody,

(02:50:29):
if you need to look at your general plan, and
the best way to do that is to go to
chat GPT and put in your county's name general plan
after that, and then what constitutional amendments is this general
plan violating. When I was on Van and and vander Steele,
when I was on Ann Vandersteele's podcast, she did this

(02:50:50):
with Palm Beach and she and the chat GPT listed
a whole list of things that her general plan will
be violating the constitutional amendments. So this is what's happening
in This is not just happening in Maui, in LA
and the other places that have been attacked, but this
is happening. It's coming for all of us, you guys,

(02:51:11):
because this country is not what we think it is.
And that's in my book as well, in my book
as well as who owns America? Who owns America? And
people need to understand what is coming and we can
stop this, but we have to do it together. We
have to stand up. We've got to go to our
county council meetings and we have to we've got to

(02:51:34):
see with our eyes. And it's gonna be hard. It's hard.
I get it thinking about thinking about Maui being attacked,
thinking about the children, like they had one hundred and fifteen,
they found one hundred and fifteen. The death count was
one hundred and fifteen, then it drops to ninety seven.
Did you know that there was mishandling of human remains?

(02:51:56):
They had recruits, They had recruits picking up human remain
who had zero experience doing so, putting bodies in the
same bodies into one baggie. They some people don't know
if they have a correct person. They don't know if
they have the entire person.

Speaker 6 (02:52:13):
Ambe that happened very often.

Speaker 4 (02:52:17):
Depends on whether or not you've ever been at war.

Speaker 6 (02:52:19):
Well that's a war, Yeah, this is a fire. When
it was at the same time.

Speaker 4 (02:52:24):
Problem when you have a large fire with lots of
casualties is that the casualties are not distinguishable.

Speaker 6 (02:52:31):
This was ninety five people. It's not a lot.

Speaker 4 (02:52:35):
It's not a lot.

Speaker 24 (02:52:36):
The official count now is one hundred and two with the.

Speaker 4 (02:52:39):
I think the biggest thing about that fire is that
they were just not prepared for the fire, and they
weren't prepared for the aftermath. I think that was the
biggest situation.

Speaker 6 (02:52:46):
Were they prepared for the fire?

Speaker 24 (02:52:49):
No, absolutely not. The actually the well every all of
the emergency management people were off island. The Maui fire
chief was off island. In fact, he wasn't even called.
He wasn't even contacted when the Lehaina fire was going on.
The Hawaii state representative who live in Lehina, Elie Cochran,
she actually had to call. She called him and said

(02:53:11):
should I evacuate? And he goes, he's off island, and
he goes why, and she goes, there's a fire in Leahina.
He wasn't even cold. He calls her back a few
minutes later says, yes, evacuate.

Speaker 6 (02:53:22):
Uh.

Speaker 24 (02:53:22):
And then the director of the mapp emergency managing director
was on a wahoo and uh so it's like these
people you wonder, you wonder.

Speaker 2 (02:53:33):
Oh yeah, and that's pretty interesting because Mayor Bass, Karen Bass,
was in Africa when the fire stay.

Speaker 6 (02:53:42):
I mean, this sounds like a planned.

Speaker 24 (02:53:44):
That's my book. Karen Bass is in my book. And
also the thing is is that Karen Bass, when she
ran for office, said she would not leave the.

Speaker 2 (02:53:53):
Country, would not leave the country if anything bad happened.
She stayed gone for most of the fires. She didn't
come back right away.

Speaker 24 (02:54:02):
She did's pictures of her after she You see, he
is not paranoid.

Speaker 2 (02:54:08):
I'm a little paranoid. I believe in being a little
paranoid about stuff. And my wife says a lot. But
I took a test once and I'm just on the borderline.
But if you're not paranoid, you tend to believe in
things that you're told and not that you have done
research on, like she's done and I've done like in

(02:54:30):
for example, COVID. You are also having an opinion about COVID,
don't you.

Speaker 24 (02:54:36):
What's that I've been a health and fitness wellness expert
for thirty years. COVID with the mask got me for
two weeks and then I'm in Costco and putting hand
sanitizer on my hands. I'm like, hand sanitizer's poison for
your gut, for your microbiome. You do not want to
use it. You want to wash your hands with regular soap.
The mask works about is good on a virus as

(02:54:58):
a chain link fence against him as squ you know,
it just doesn't work. In fact, it harms your nasal passages,
in your teeth, in your in your throat because you
keep breathing in the stuff. So it's it's not good.
So then I researched COVID and found out during the
twenty twenty that, uh, for six years, every single year,

(02:55:20):
the regular flu killed more people on the islands than COVID.
I went into the police department and I told him,
I said my mask. I said, this mask does not
help against the virus. One of the officers told me,
he goes, we know this is just the regular flu.
So it's you know, that's what.

Speaker 6 (02:55:39):
Well COVID ended the flu because yeah, I even.

Speaker 24 (02:55:43):
Went to our hospital. I saw an ambulance driver outside
and I said, are you guys having a lot of
COVID patients?

Speaker 10 (02:55:50):
Uh?

Speaker 24 (02:55:50):
You know deesser a lot of deaths. He goes no,
he goes no, and we're not allowed to talk about it.

Speaker 6 (02:55:55):
Yeah, exactly, So when did you figure this out? About?
What year was it?

Speaker 24 (02:56:01):
Twenty twenty? I actually, uh the COVID. The COVID happened March.
It was March twenty twenty. And then April I did
a health summit. I actually put a health summit here
on on the Big Island. Nobody would to us, so
we were outside on a beach park and I live
streamed Peggy Hall and doctor Mary Ruert and we were

(02:56:22):
talking for two hours about how this is not what
people think it is. This is is nothing what people
think it is. And cops came actually right after the
whole thing was over, and we had twenty two officers,
fifteen cop cars, and they were flying down a Leite Drive,
which is a one way which is a single lane

(02:56:44):
road on each side, I mean, driving like somebody was murdered.
And they came rested five people and they gave them
the same they gave they gave three charges of the
emergency proclamation and that's actually not a law, right, and
so they all.

Speaker 2 (02:57:01):
The this is what happens when when you you uh,
you let the government do everything, and you don't, you
don't stand up for your rights.

Speaker 6 (02:57:11):
I would agree with that.

Speaker 2 (02:57:12):
And listen, this has been a great uh interview and
a great conversation with Bob Wells here, and I think
we ought to do this again sometime and we can
talk about a bunch of stuff. You said you needed
like an hour, and obviously you got, well, you got
an hour at about fifteen minutes. Anyhow, I want to

(02:57:32):
thank you, and uh, where can people find you? Buy
your books? And uh.

Speaker 6 (02:57:42):
Uh and other than the Dave Weinbaum show, Uh where
can people find you?

Speaker 11 (02:57:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 24 (02:57:48):
Great Mally Lang book. Thank you for putting that up.
They can factually find me on YouTube and Rumble. And
that's actually my at my wellness page and it's Blossom
Inner Wellness Blossom and then inner I n any our wellness.
Uh you can find me there on YouTube. I actually
am on YouTube probation because I mean, oh my gosh,

(02:58:09):
I've been and I keep getting a YouTube probation, So
the algorithms don't like me. But YouTube, Rumble, good social
those all bitch. That's Blossom Inner Wellness and the best
one is Rumble because they are a free speech They
honor the constitutional amendment of free speech. YouTube is not so.

Speaker 2 (02:58:32):
I think in the last part somebody was fooling with
your with your with with your your interview with me.
But anyways, uh, you know what, I tried to book
this interview, but only like that was a shaka.

Speaker 24 (02:58:46):
A shaka?

Speaker 6 (02:58:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's supposed to be a joke. I
don't know. It's Wait a minute, what's a shaka? You
do you know what a shaka is? What is a shaka?

Speaker 24 (02:58:58):
A shaka?

Speaker 6 (02:58:59):
A shock? When you yeah, there you go. See you
don't even know that.

Speaker 4 (02:59:03):
It's when you put your finger in a wall socket
you get a shock.

Speaker 6 (02:59:08):
All right, thank you so much. I enjoyed it. I'm
sure Bob Willison enjoyed it, and I'll send you his address.
Don't worry.

Speaker 4 (02:59:16):
All of my books are available everywhere Walmart.

Speaker 6 (02:59:19):
All right, enough, I got thirty five seconds here and
then I'm done. All right, And I need to go
sort my socks. Yeah you need to.

Speaker 2 (02:59:27):
You need to check underneath for fires and stuff like
that microwave chart. All right, Thank you so much. This
has been a great show. Thank you, my loving audience
and the people that are on this show. My wife
and JP and everyone else. I'll be back with another
edition of the Dave Weinbaum Show next Friday.

Speaker 6 (02:59:52):
Thank you so much,

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