Dave Weinbaum Show- May 23, 2025

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Special Guests:  J.J. Bradshaw, Moshe Rothchild, Mark and Patricia McCloskey, MO State Rep. Bill Hardwick, Richard Lockwood

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Glad to be known about the people's jus.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Well, thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
It's an honor to be here. What a great place,
not a great place, but more importantly, what great people.
I want to thank His Royal Highness the Crown Prince
for that incredible introduction. He's an incredible man. Knowne him
a long time now is nobody like him? Thank you
very much. Appreciate it very much, my friend. And it's

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a tremendous honor to return to this beautiful kingdom and
be welcomed back with such extraordinary generosity and warmth.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
I've never forgotten.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
The exceptional hospitality show to us by King Solomon. Who's
just we talk about a great man. That is a
great man. That is a great man, a great family.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Want to get it off your chest. You're in the
right place. They accused this show of being run by boobs.
Well let me tell you about us, boobs. We're real
and we're spectacular. A lot of politics and fund sprinkled
with a lot of laughs. Heard in every state in

(01:21):
the Union and one thousand cities around the world. We
just finished sixteen years of broadcast excellence. Now in our
seventeenth year, Dave Weinbaum show is streaming live all over
the world. As you may know, two Jews were shot

(01:55):
to death a few days ago in Washington. D see
a young man and woman who worked for the Israeli embassy,
and we're on the cusp of engagement and about to
go to Israel to see family. There they are shot

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by a crazed us a hater, by shooting the couple
in the back, and to make sure of their death,
shot many rounds into them their dying bodies. He screamed

(02:44):
free Palestine. As cops handcuffed Elias Roderigas from Chicago and
he is charged with first degree murder. This should raise
the stakes of all Jews in this country and all

(03:08):
over the world. Many on the left who supported the
open borders and hate speech coming from the Democratic Party,
who lit this fire in our schools and universities and
showed their positions with professors in Jewish school presidents of

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these Ivy League universities. This allowing these anti Semitic propaganda.
Another spread of the Israeli Hamas Houdi Hezbollah war supported

(03:59):
by Iran and China. The Biden Obama administrations were apologists
to Arab countries both enriched Lebanon, Iran and Hamas. To
be fair, Israeli intel run by a Jewish leftist, failed

(04:25):
to react to all out murder of thirteen hundred Jews
on ten seven, twenty three. Now hostages back or not,
Israelis must kill the enemy to total destruction or an

(04:45):
admission from that they are surrendering like Germany and Japan
in World War Two. Where's a terrible thing, But Ezrael
choices We're to fight or to die. Don't forget Rodriguez.

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Free Palestine from the river to the sea, meaning killing
all Jews like you and me.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
With this historic state visit, we celebrate more than eighty
years of close partnership between the United States and the
Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Ever since President Franklin Roosevelt met
with King Solomon's father, King abdul Azise abroad the USS
Quincy in nineteen forty five, the US Saudi relationship has

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been a bedrock of security and prosperity. Today we reaffirmed
this important bond, and we take the next steps to
make our relationship closer, stronger, and more powerful than ever before.
It is more powerful well than ever before, and by

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the way, it will remain that way. We don't go
in and out like other people.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
Will remain that way.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
All right, we're here in the Dave Weinbaum Show. Welcome
all who are gonna be watched, all who are watching
right now. We got a great show lined up today.
My wife will be here any minute, and it's my anniversary.
So I sent out for a flowers. She's I don't
know if she's listening or no. I don't want to.

(06:44):
I don't want to wreck a surprise. We didn't need
that because they're gonna go out and tell her now
and then it's not gonna be It's not. And I'm
gonna take her out to dinner tonight. Okay, everybody happy
out there? Women, men, anyone, anyone objects. I'm sitting here
with Jay with ap Maxwell, who is the producer of
the show. Good morning, and we have Rick Henderson out

(07:09):
in Salem, Missouri. His power has been shut off because
of storms apparently, and uh so he's uh, hopefully he's listening.
I think he. I think he's got a generator going there. Uh,
and he's uh, he does all the bits of the
clips and he's very good at it. And uh, we're

(07:30):
lined up with J. J. Bradshaw and a ten rabbi.
Moshe gonna have a lot of interesting things. He was
here last week. He stayed at my house and uh
gave a speech a pastor Pats Church, a Light in
Life Church, and uh it was a great speech. And
he's gonna and he's gonna be very interesting to talk

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about these two beautiful, beautiful people that they were the
They were the light of the eyes of all in
the Israeli embassy, and they loved this couple. This couple
was meant to be. And all of a sudden, out
of nowhere, this animal Rodriguez shoots him down, and he

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was crazed by what he heard. He was a leftist
all the way. He was a part of the Communist Party,
and he's got a big history of this, of being
a radical, but not of shooting people. Well, there she is,
my little wifey. Hi, honey, Hi, looking good baby. You're welcome.

(08:36):
Oh do we match? No? Anyways, By the way, happy anniversary,
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (08:42):
I started off graat I left the house without my
wedding ring.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Oh my god.

Speaker 5 (08:47):
So I decided to go back and get it because
today's let's us see.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Ah, the one time the one time she forgets it. Okay,
it's our anniversary. Is that a sign or what? I
don't understand that it's not. I got mine on, you know,
I take mine off to play golf because it hurts.

Speaker 6 (09:05):
The important thing is she went back and got it.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
So you're in the c all right, So we will
doc you. Uh was seven eight minutes of pay u
and uh, well we'll have a good dinner. You can
buy more. Uh. Okay, Hi there, welcome to the Dave
winebab Show. What's your name where you're calling from?

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Well, Jay, this is Shajay and I'm having a little
stream yard problem.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
On Oh here, okay, so you want to talk talk now,
let me finish up my We can do that. Uh
and I want I did announce you at a ten.
I don't even know what time it is? What what?
What time? Is it? Eight or nine? So you're you're
right there, that's fine. The Rabbi is on at eight forty.

(09:51):
Oh no, not Chris. But uh see, I've got this
on the ruck. Okay, I've got the Molkusky's coming on
at nineteen thirty. They've got a lot to talk about.
They are representing about fifteen hundred one six ers and
this thing's blown up. This is good. We're gonna have
a lot of scoops today. I think Bill Hardwick he's

(10:14):
coming out at ten. He's running for office. He's running well.
He is already the rep in this area for Missouri
and he's going to run for Senate. And Richard Lockwood,
the space alien guy who is also a Trump lover,
devout Catholic, and we always learn a lot from Richard Lockwood.

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So let's start the show with my friend JJ Bradshaw,
who is two hundred and fifty six years old, going
on two hundred and fifty seven. He was there for
the Oh you're on look at that.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
Surprise.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Oh my god, I was shocked. But where's the Why
do I have an echo?

Speaker 6 (11:03):
We still had the phone line on, but it's been
cut off, so we should be good.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Now, say something, Hello, say something, but those swear yeah,
all right, hold on, hold on, I'm introducing you, all right.
So he's two hundred and fifty six years old. He
goes all the way back to the Revolutionary War. He

(11:26):
was friends with you know, Washington and Jefferson and Franklin,
and he used to used to date ye old girls
from the year old tavern. I guess none of those
girls has survived till you. But please welcome all the
way from Ronald Missouri, John Jeffrey Bradshaw. Bradshaw, good morning.

(11:54):
How are you today?

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Well, having a little stream yard problems on my end.
If it bombs on me or starts dropping me out,
I'll go back to boys only.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Okay, what a week day? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (12:06):
What a week we have that I'll get right onto it.
A couple of Israelis killed in Washington, d C. That's
absolutely unacceptable in this country. It's sad that we have
gone so far left. I don't know what to say
about that.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
It's just I did my whole monologue on it. If
you get a chance to know you're messing around with
your stuff, take a listen to it.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
I'm listening to the monologue, and I wanted to reiterate
that that's a very sad day in our country that
that sort of thing happens.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
And I came armed. I didn't mention it, but I'm
coming to arm now from now on, because you never know,
and so if I have a fighting chance, I'm going
to fight back. And all Jews ought to be listening.
Who are listening to this, you need to arm yourself.
They do it in Israel. The Jews are all armed
now as opposed to what they weren't before ten seven

(13:05):
to twenty three. So let's face it, we've got an
international worldwide Jew hating problem here, and a lot of
it has to do with these leftists and the Democrats.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Go ahead, Yeah, The fact is in this country, the Democrats,
the Marxists are the ones that have encouraged this. If
you recall, chaos and hatred is what they're known for.
And you mentioned all Jews ought to arm themselves.

Speaker 7 (13:38):
That.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Frankly, I think every reasonable citizen, non criminal citizen should
be armed because frankly, the police they'll be there to
write report, but they sure won't be there to say
to you. Let's take a little trip to Scotis, our buddy.
Donald Trump has made another win in Scotis. Trump had

(14:04):
dismissed the Democrats on the National Labor Relation Board and
the Merit Systems Protection Board. A pair of folks named
will Cox and Harris sued over that, and the Supreme
Court came out with a very interesting opinion which stated
that the NLRB and the Merit Systems Protection board are

(14:27):
in fact executive boards, and as such, Trump has the
right to boot out those who would not want to
follow his policies. It's a little different than what the
Supremes normally come up with, So yay for that. This
is another win Trump.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Was this about the MPR? Was this about the NPR?

Speaker 1 (14:57):
No, that's about that relations board.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Okay, tell you what.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
I'm going to go back to boings only because this
thing has causing me so gif.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Okay, that's fine, all right? Are we there?

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, I'm here.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Oh my god, that was a quick transition. Goodness disappeared
on me. But he's he's resurrected on the phone.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah, you know, I'm having some technical difficulties on this end.
I know Springyard didn't want to load on either the
telephone or that are the laptops.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
We're back to the Yeah, we've been there. We've all
been there, all right.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
The business with the National Labor Relations Board Merit Systems Board.
Unusual for the Supreme Court to say that these are
executive type boards and subject to executive order from the
Commander Chief. You don't hear that from Scot as much.
All I had to say about that. Let's talk about

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that big old budget bill.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah, big budget.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
It looks like some things got added to it and
subtracted from it before it got a one vote margin
passing in the House. I think it may have some
better time than the Senate. That much has been made
of Medicaid work requirements that are going to occur in

(16:18):
this thing, and the state and local deduction cap assault,
and I want to expound on those just a little bit.
As it stands, Medicaid you can apply for it if
you're pretty poor, you can get it even if you
are a fit person who has some disease that need

(16:41):
to be treated. On the government dole. There's no work
work requirements, and it's reasonable, I think, to expect those
who are able bodied to work, So that requirement has
been added. And I kudos to that local tax deduction.

(17:02):
You know that was shoved through by California and New
York and New Jersey. Why because their state taxes are
so very high. They're confiscatory in that regard, and they
want to be able to duck deduct those taxes from
those that they pay to the federal government. Well, I

(17:22):
neither approve or disapprove of the concept of that, But
if you lived in New York State. Wouldn't you be
politicking your own representatives in the state to lower the
taxes so you don't have.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
To do this? One would think it again, I said,
one would think that.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yes, Yeah, now there remember Biden's Inflation Reduction Act, Sure,
the thing that that literally caused inflation to increase pre
typical for Democrat legends. Those credits, those tax credits have
been removed, and a bunch of Green New Deal credits

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have been removed. The good news in this thing and
is there imbursement to border states for border security expenses
that they incurred of Biden's boarder folks did nothing. So
states like Arizona, Texas, who have expended an awful lot
out of their coffers to try to protect their citizens,

(18:30):
they're going to get a little money back. And I
think that's a good thing. But the big news about this,
and we'll see if the Senate tosses this back again,
it defunds Planned Parenthood. Now, Planned Parenthood gets about a
third of their income from the federal government, so it's
going to be a pretty good hit for them, and

(18:50):
good I'd like to see them go out of business.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, there's going to be a real war on that one.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
I think so, and rightfully so, it needs to be discussed.
We are, in fact a representative constitutional republic, and we
are based on discussing our problems and trying to find
some common ground.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
And according to the leaders of the even the Republican
Party in the Senate, they say, okay, this, we're going
to go over this like it's a new bill and
nobody knows anything about it, and we're gonna we we
don't like some of this stuff. We we think we
know that's in there, and we're gonna we're gonna we're

(19:31):
gonna tear this apart, put it back together, and vote
on it. And that's what I guess that's the way
it ought to be, right, This.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Is exactly how the founding fathers had envisioned this to be. Yeah,
we discuss these things, we find common ground, we kick
out the stuff that doesn't fit, and we welcome this. Now,
whether the Senate and the House actually operate that way,
I suppose we will see.

Speaker 8 (19:59):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
They've not been known for nonpartisanship. But the good news
on this, though, is this thing's finally out of the House.
It looks like it has some good stuff in it,
although I do object to the deficit being increased by
four or five trillion dollars out of that part disturbs me,

(20:23):
but we'll see. You know, I think Trump is betting
on the economy growing at a fast enough.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Rate versus maybe maybe one percent. Yes, that's that's a
lot of money. Okay, it's not like anything.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Oh yeah, we're talking.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
We're talking trillions here, So it's uh, you know, you know.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
We are at a tipping point in my opinion anyway,
that this is not a sustainable economy as it stands.
You can't hold these kind of deficits. Pretty soon the
interest payment seat up all your GDP and now you've
got a problem. So we'll see. I think there are
some responsible people behind this thing that have the best

(21:07):
interests of our country at heart, and they have my support,
at least until they proved themselves not worthy of my support.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Well, I want to make a point about the Democrats here,
because every Democrat in the House voted against this. In
other words, yes, they voted against taxes going down for
everybody in including the middle class and small businesses. Okay,

(21:37):
so they voted against their own constituaries that want relief
from the heavy taxes that they would have had a
tax increase because the taxes as they are now are
ready to expire. So Republicans voted to get the taxes

(22:00):
down and the Democrats voted to not only keep high taxes,
but they have them cost about two to three thousand
dollars per family more. How is this not going to
play into the twenty six elections? How well?

Speaker 1 (22:21):
It's going to be a problem for the Democrats.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
One would think they just voted against their own consituent.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Remember that, you remember the Nancy Pelosi House where all
of the Democrats voted in lockstep. Yeah, and it shows
that that is still that's still sure is representative. So
they're voting in lockstep to the detriment of the people
that actually voted to put them in power. This is

(22:49):
not sustainable for the Democrat Party. At some point, this
is going to explode in their face and sooner. The
bient opinion they don't the benefit of the doubt, I
would agree, we'll see. You know, this is going to
go to a joint committee between Senate and House and
they try to work out some of the kinks, looking

(23:11):
at maybe a July the fourth deadline we'll see. I
think this is a positive thing that this got out
of the House, as Conservative Caucus has made their voices
rather clear on what they expect out of this. It's
a good thing, I think.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
I think it's a good thing too. And Trump now
has a really good record both in his last.

Speaker 8 (23:37):
In the.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Twenty seventeen him becoming president and doing what he did
then with everybodying hanging on him, trying to trying to
kick him out of office. And now we have the
contrast between him and the Biden administration, and it's been
revealed how sick Biden is and has been probably for

(24:05):
about a decade.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
And somebody's about right to my next topic.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Oh, okay, go you go ahead with it, because I
went I want to hear your perspective.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Well, you know, all of us thought that Biden was
mentally deficient, certainly from the last half of his term
and probably before now he discovered that he's had prostate cancer.
It happens that I have prostate cancer, so I know
very well how that disease for me too. And there's

(24:39):
no way in the world that this thing showed up
in the last hundred hundred days, Not a chance in
the world. This guy gets a blood test every year,
and you can bet that a PSA of prostate specific
anagen test is included in that. It's a cheap and
it's very good for detect preset answer. So don't try

(25:02):
to tell me that this metastatic answer that is metastized
into his bones just showed up as some sort of epiphany.
Not a chance in the world. There's nobody here that's
going to buy that stuff. Beyond that, they finally published
Robert Herr's audio tapes of the interview with Bien, and frankly,

(25:24):
the guy came off as seriously deficient, didn't know whether
he was vice president or president. Let's take that another
step further though. Let's take a look at the pardons
that got signed when we all knew that this guy
was mentally deficient. And it's proof now that every one

(25:47):
of those is identical, which means they were signed with
an autopen question is who was running this what kebah
of Marxist caused it? I wasn't all there.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
It's a sixty four thousand dollars question right there.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
That's the big one, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Oh? Yeah, who was really running the government? Barack Obama.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
I think BONDI is going to take this thing.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Oh, they need to do this. This is maje.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
I need to get to the bottom of it. Yeah, Frankly, Dave,
our government was stolen from us.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yes it was.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
They perpetrated what I believe to be the biggest fraud
in the history of this country. And between the prostate
cancer and the herb report and the Auto pen and
all the other awful things that occurred in that last
twelve to fifteen months of his administration, smells to me

(26:51):
like a serious conspiracy. And I believe there's treason has
occurred here. So yeah, Pam investigator, dis please put Patel
on this. Let's see if we can find out who
these Marxists are and prosecute them.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Yeah, good JPS diplomacy.

Speaker 6 (27:11):
So hey, jj, I wanted to ask you a quick question.
So this brings another aspect of this into And I'm
going to put Biden was elected president and I'm using
quotes because I don't think he actually was.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
But it was stolen.

Speaker 6 (27:25):
It was stolen. But he's in the seat right supposedly. Well,
if he's not the one that actually wrote these executive
orders under the executive power of the president presidential office.
Does that mean they're no one void?

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Then?

Speaker 1 (27:38):
I don't know. Isn't that a great question, right, because
it seems like nobody knows who did these things. Now
Biden is the responsible party, but one could argue that
someone with serious mental decline is not necessarily responsible. Well,
this is the point with the twenty fifth Amendment would
take over, but nobody was will to take him out

(28:00):
of office.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
So they were telling him he was fine, and so
you know, he thought he was fine, right, nobody told
him here he was demented.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yeah, Dave checks in the mail, trust me, the autfind
you know that this is this scandal is worse than
Nixon by by any means. It makes the Richard Nixon
Watergate like a misdemeanor misdemeanor break. Yet, I seriously hope

(28:35):
that our current executive branch investigates this thing and turns
up the dirt. I want to know who wrote those partons.
I want to know who signed those partners with the
Auto pen. And to JP's question, then Floyd, I would
think so, but that probably will end up in from

(28:56):
the Supreme Court. But this does need to be investigat.
Our government was stolen by these people as the election
was stolen. And as a citizen of this country who
actually follows the loss of this country, I want to
see those folks prosecuted now.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah, and you know, you got all these books coming
from liberals now and hitting this and they're acting like
they just knew, just found out about it. All these
people are culpable because they all went along with the lie.
Joe Biden is the sharpest man alive. Oh my god,
you should see him. He's so bright, and he's working

(29:38):
his butt off at home, and you know, and he's
doing all this meanwhile his wife is running administration meetings.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Oh, absolutely right. And those of us who are really
just citizens of this country, I think we have a
right to know who perpetrated this thing. Yeah, and for purpose,
and I would like to see those folks prosecuted. The
latest scandal. This will be my closing scandal.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Okay, I want you to stand to listen to the
people sending stuff in.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
I'd love to Okay, South Africa, this thing blew up
in the South African president's face big time. Trump holds
a press conference. There's all the liberal media there and
South African President Ramfosa was asked about the tail end

(30:38):
of apartheid in South Africa and weather whites were being
persecuted there, and of course the first thing he did
was deny that.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Well, okay, hold on, hold on, hold on. We have
we have a young lady that just came in and
I don't know how this happened, but Summer Jet, you
want to go in and no, sure, okay, but uh
you want to bring it over and present it because
I'm kind of stacked here. All right, I'm stacked and

(31:10):
I'm wrecked. It is my anniversary today and and and uh,
Summer here is presenting her with these this big bouquet
of flowers, and uh, thank you, Summer See I got
you on camera anyways, all right, so everybody look at that. Yes, okay,

(31:33):
let's wait, you're hiding your face. It's the matter with you, okay, Well,
happy anniversary, honey, thank you. Okay, Well we'll smooch leader
because jj'st got stuff to talk about. Okay, well else
what else? Uh we were in the middle of then
I apologize.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
I got to tell you a happy anniversary, Lisa. Your
taste in man, it is pretty dismal.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Okay that that that's wrong.

Speaker 9 (32:01):
I know.

Speaker 5 (32:01):
I know there's still time to improve, though.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Really, I sincerely hope it.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Wait a minute, how do I How am I supposed
to take that one? My friend? You can help crickets
on that one. Crickets. That's crickets right there.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Let me tell you about that. The South African thing,
that's That's what I'm gonna end with.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
The President of South Africa is in a press conference
with Donald Trump, and of course he was asked, well,
you know, why do we have white refugees come in
to the United States from South Africa. These are farmers
that are concerned with their lives. And the first thing
the guy said was, it's not the policy of my country. Well,

(32:47):
Trump dims the lights and brings up this compilation tape
of all of these South African politicians in essence saying, yeah,
let's kill whitey uh. This is one of the neatest
diplomacy coups I've seen in the longest time. It was

(33:07):
just about as good as Zelenski in the Oval office
when that exploded on him. And oh, by the way,
we stopped six hundred and sixty million dollars a year
of aid to your country, and we had a one
billion dollar green energy grant to your country. Oh, by
the way, that has been suspended as well. And perhaps

(33:32):
you ought to clean up your act before you come
to the Oval Office and try to lie to the
American press.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah, they they said. They kept saying one word. I
can't even remember the word now. All of them said
the same thing, like he ambushed the ambush, he ambushed
this guy. I mean, every single every single MSM channel,
every person was saying ambush, ambush, ambush, ambush, ambush. I mean,

(34:01):
they're all in sync with each other, and that's weird
and it's sick in my opinion, you know.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
But they've done that for decades. I remember the word
ravi toss went around years ago. I didn't even know
what the hell that worked either until I heard it
on the MSM. Yeah, gravi tos Sure, Okay, who thinks
like that? Like though, is that Donald Trump takes a prisoners.

(34:30):
And if you expect mercy when you walk into the
Oval Office, I think you're going to be sadly surprised.
So yeah, that one, that one was pretty good. I
believe I will play that back a few times. And
of course the Democrats are howland because any kind of
refugee has got to be Middle Eastern or black or

(34:52):
something not going to not white.

Speaker 7 (34:57):
Dutch folks.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
So yeah, this uh Trump, my hat's off to you again.
You pulled another rabbit out of the hat. And uh,
I see you looking at the clock, Dave.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Well, no, I'm not looking at the clock. I'm looking
at the uh at the at the notes from people
who want to talk either about you or the show. Right,
Patricia Odin Maxwell sounding good looking, good go team, Happy anniversary,
Dave and Lisa, thank you so much. You're the best.
Of course she's she's talking about her, not me.

Speaker 5 (35:30):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Lisa and Wainbaum, thank you, pastor.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Pat.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Six and counting was a six? Yeah it is.

Speaker 10 (35:36):
I think I think we decided it was.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
It was six. Yes.

Speaker 9 (35:40):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Kathy sand for Sandford Dylan, Happy Friday of everyone, Love
you all and have a blessed weekend you too, Kathy,
appreciate you. Uh. This is Pat Odin Maxwell again. JJ.
So glad you're able to get audio lined out. We

(36:02):
need your input and I would agree with that one
hundred percent. Always a great job and I would agree
with that too. And Owen mcvammy, who pushes this show
like crazy all over the place, all over Twitter, all
over the Facebook. Good morning, folks, what a patriot he is.
Thank you Owen, and good morning to Lisa. Oh okay,

(36:25):
you gave you got your own little see you're a star.
I'm surprised you didn't ask to say anything to you first. Okay,
what else anything? All right, JJ, thank you so much
for being a star on the Dave Winebomb Show. All right,
So you know what, Usually I would have gone to commercial,

(36:47):
but I don't think I'm going to do that because
we don't have enough time because the Rabbi is going
to be on in about three minutes, so we'll postpone
the commercials. So after the Rabbi and then we got
at ninth thirty, I think we got the McCluskey's right,
And that should be really interesting because they're reports not

(37:08):
only representing all these people, that representing Ryan Zinc, who
may have a special part in this, and it involves
going up quickly to any a court that might be
able to hear him and really solve the problem for

(37:31):
all these January six ers. But we're gonna I'm gonna
be vague about that, Okay, I got to be vague,
but I did have a long conversation with Jeff Zinc
yesterday and that was pretty interesting. Anyhow, let's play the
let's let's play let's see whether they want played. Oh,

(37:52):
let's play the Trump Baby, remember that? Yeah, go ahead,
all right, he's gonna be Barbara Stevens are and Lauren
what what have birthday said? Hey, happy birthday? Uh and
uh we're going to have let's see here.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
You know, you know. The the funny thing about the
playoffs in the n b A is that New York
is now having done to them what they did to
the Celtics. Bye bye.

Speaker 6 (38:28):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
This Indianapolis team who will look so good and so calm.
So oh yeah, you can show that one too, show
them both.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
I'm gonna go and share the screen real quick so
that we.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Actually can Okay, good, yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
Okay, So I gonna go ahead and click on this one.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
There we go, Trump, We're going to scoff ops os.
I think I think he sliced it a bit. I
think he's like, oh, sliced it. Layoff the golf course.
That's Bruce Springsteen who's moving out of the country and
watch just one.

Speaker 9 (39:14):
A golf country gave me a four hundred million dollars jet.
I said yes, no hesitation. Now they're screaming pribe crime, outrage.
Oh please spare me the drama. You fix oil prices,
stop wars, save markets from collapse. You don't get a metal,

(39:34):
you get a jet, a beautiful one.

Speaker 11 (39:37):
They say it stinks.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
You know what stinks?

Speaker 9 (39:40):
Family art sales for millions, hidden deals in back rooms
and silence from the press. I didn't hide it, I
didn't lie, I didn't pretend they all want gifts.

Speaker 11 (39:52):
I just said it out loud.

Speaker 9 (39:53):
Now they want an apology for what being honest. This
isn't corruption, This is compensation earned, deserved delivered. So yes,
I took the jet and I'm flying forty thousand feet
over their fake outrage while they tweet. I sleep while
they protest. I cruise while they whine.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
I win.

Speaker 4 (40:18):
Don't like it?

Speaker 9 (40:19):
Do something worth rewarding?

Speaker 11 (40:21):
Believe me?

Speaker 9 (40:22):
A Gulf country gave me a four hundred million dollars jet.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
All right? So I yeah, how do they do that?
How do they make that baby look so real? And
talking about babies? Well, we've got we've got a rabbi
who I don't know does he does he? Actually? Do
you actually do the circumcision or not. I apparently not,

(40:46):
so I don't yep, Moil, that would be on Moil.
We're showing his his uh his book up there, and
we're gonna we're gonna introduce him rightly.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
He is.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
He is a war time rabbi. He provides uh support
for IDF widows and their children with housing and camaraderie
with other moms and widows who have the same circumstances.
Please welcome all the way from Israel, Rabbi Moshe Rothschild.

(41:26):
So i'd like your reaction. Oh, by the way, it's
our anniversary. Did you know that? Oh?

Speaker 7 (41:31):
Yeah, happy anniversary.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Well, thank you, don't don't get too excited.

Speaker 7 (41:35):
So how many years have you and JP been together?

Speaker 2 (41:38):
About three years almost five years now, six married, eleven together.

Speaker 5 (41:44):
Yeah, well, I'm not sharing my flowers with JP.

Speaker 12 (41:46):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Do you see the flowers?

Speaker 6 (41:48):
Yeah, he'll have to buy me my own bouquet.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Then, oh god, okay, guys, you guys are getting really
weird though, okay, really weird. Al Yeah. Ron Leshinsky and
Sarah Milgram, both in Israel's embassy, shot and killed this guy.
Didn't just shoot him, he emptied his gun and then

(42:13):
reloaded and shot him again. Okay, until they were dead
Trump versus Biden, Biden in terms of the relationship, in
terms of the people that were there, they're still out

(42:34):
there screaming from the river to the sea. Finally, it's
it's culminated in these murders. So what are your thoughts
on this? What should we do as Jews in America?

Speaker 7 (42:50):
Well, that's there are two questions here. The question as
an American is different than what nessarially, what a Jew
needs to do. See what I think is happening. This
is not it's tragic, but to me, it's not a
surprise when you see guys walking down the street down

(43:12):
Broadway carrying in New York City, carrying the flag of
Kamas and the Palestinians, and all over the campuses in
the United States and all over the streets of the world,
in London, in Paris and Spain, calling for to free
the Palestinians, calling for the end of quote unquote the genocide,

(43:33):
for the end of the starvation, for the end of
all these things. So the natural result is going to
be violent, because you feel you create a society that
thinks they're a community that thinks they're doing good. They're
doing something good. It's like preventing Hitler, it's like preventing
the Nazis. Right, They've turned everything on their head. And

(43:54):
the United States, in my opinion, is that this demonstrates
to me how that they're in big trouble because you know,
the freedom of speech has become freedom from responsible speaking.
Freedom of speech has become that we could say whatever
we want, as long as we don't say we're going
to assassinate the president, or we don't yell fire in
a movie. But other than that, we could say whatever
we want, and the result is when there's violent results.

(44:17):
So don't act so surprised because you know it's going
to start with the Jews. But trust me, the Jihati
manifesto is against Christians, it's against everybody. And if good
people don't stand with Israel, don't stand with the Jews,
they're going to come for you. And you know there's
not gonna be anybody left to stand with you when
the time comes. And so if we don't stand together

(44:39):
against evil, then we're going to have the America is
going to go down the tubes, whether it's gonna be
in two years, five years, ten years, twenty years, We're
going to let the Jihadis in and guess what the
birth rate in the United States is? What one point four?
The Jihadis are giving birth at three point five. You're
going to allow Muslims into the country unabated, allow them

(45:00):
in and allow them to protest, allow them to create
Sharia law, allow people like Ohan Ilma, Ohan and and
and Rashida and Corey Bush who thank god was thrown out,
and Jamal Bohm and all these people that they're literally
going to turn the United States on its head. This
is no longer the country of you know, leave it
to beaver. It's going to turn into you know, uh,

(45:23):
into something that that no Western democracy wants. And France
has finished, England has finished, Spain has finished. You know,
so what's going to happen to me? This is a
natural consequence, and it's going to happen over and over
and over and then they're going to be plowing their
cars into us. To non Jews, to everybody, it's it's

(45:44):
it should be a wake goal. That's what I think
for Americans. For Jews, you know, maybe it's time to
think that they're better. They're they're in greener pastures. You know,
if we're not wanted.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Then like Israel, somewhere else like Israel. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah,
I don't know. Could you hear my wife?

Speaker 4 (46:05):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 9 (46:06):
No?

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (46:08):
Now now now, I.

Speaker 5 (46:11):
Just wanted to point out that I was driving from
Saint James to Rala yesterday and I saw a big
Stuckies billboard, and on that huge billboard they were announcing
that they serve Hellal food. And this is a Stuckies
that is just a few miles outside of Rawa, And
so that was a little alarming to me to see

(46:32):
that in our area.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
There.

Speaker 7 (46:35):
For I think the university has has a lot of students,
oh yeah, from Muslim country. And and you know, it's
like America's bending over backwards to be so liberal, to
be so if we don't start enacting laws in the
United States and having consequences for this kind of speech,
these things are going to happen over and over and

(46:57):
it's not going to be.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Just Jews, well is sure going to be. It's Christians,
even moderate Muslims. What do you think about it?

Speaker 7 (47:06):
By the way, this guy Leshinsky, he was a Christian.
I don't think I didn't know that he was a
German Christian that had made Aliad moved to Israel, and
he wasn't even Jewish, but he was working for the
Israeli embassy. So you know, of course he was targeted
because of Zionism because he was the guy.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Yeah he didn't know that, but he's not even Jewish.
Well that's that just shows you that it's not just
Jews that are going to get killed. It's going to
be a lot of uh, right leaning Christians who are
who are going to be subject to this.

Speaker 7 (47:43):
And Sarah Milgram, from what I've read, you know, she
probably was very sympathetic to the Palestinian coast. She was
a very you know, on the left side of the
political spectrum. And so he ends up killing a Christian
and a Jew probably would have been far more left
leaning than you or me.

Speaker 13 (48:02):
Well, so like it.

Speaker 7 (48:03):
It's indiscriminate, you know.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Now, I want you to repeat what you said, Pastor
Pats Church about what happens to Jews after a let's say,
a Holocaust for a couple of decades and then what
happens when it changes.

Speaker 7 (48:26):
Right, So I think what happens like the Holocaust was
such a stunning event and I think even the Jew
haters were stunned by how much success they had, and
they kind of went under their rocks. And the world
was very sympathetic towards Jews. We had a state in
nineteen forty eight. Even Russia voted for me. There was

(48:47):
a lot of sympathy. But what happens is is that
after time that wears off and then there's the world
reverts back to the norm of history, which is the
Jews are one of the most persecuted people in the world,
the world's longest and greatest hatred and uh, Once uh
Zionism became the target of the haters, they say, oh,

(49:09):
we don't ages we hate Zionism, we hate Israel. And
once those guys have come out from under their rock,
then there is there's no putting that that back. There's
no putting it backs, not putting the cat back in
the bag. And that's uh, that's that's sort of the
situation that we find ourselves in. And I'm concerned as

(49:33):
my I think I mentioned this on Sunday that my
wife was speaking to a group of American rabbis who
had come to visit Israel, and they were, uh, they
were expressing how their sympathy towards Israel, and she said
to them, you know, I have to be honest with you.

Speaker 4 (49:52):
I'm more worried.

Speaker 7 (49:52):
About you guys than than UH, than than UH than
you are about us, you know, because I think is
there a we're gonna We're doing what we need to do.
It's getting better and better all the time. And the
problem is the United States, it's getting more and more
difficult for Jews and it's probably not going to be
getting any better. It's only getting worse. And so you know,

(50:14):
there's a lot of red flags. And what happened this week,
this shooting in front of a Jewish event, in front
of a museum of the Bible, killing two people from
the Earli Embassy. And you know, if these were black people,
if they were women being targeted, I think the outrage
would be unbelievable. We're already seeing the justifications go into
social media and you'll see, well, what did you expect?

(50:35):
Their Resigon is what do you expect?

Speaker 2 (50:37):
They're exactly people in Gaza, what do you expect. There's
major channels that are already protecting this guy. Right, maybe
they had it. It's sort of like they're saying well
maybe they had it coming. You see. Now, what is
what is the special UH deal with with the with

(51:00):
the war and it being misunderstood by all these people
in the media where it comes off as being well yeah,
you've now it's like turned over like we're responsible now
for hamas and we're responsible for war injuries, for starvation,

(51:24):
all this and for genocide. What is the population situation
there is? It has Have we been killing people with
genocide there?

Speaker 7 (51:34):
No, Look, the population has increased. Population is two point
one million in Gayza, and even according to the Kamas
death tolls in fifty four thousand. That's two point five
percent of the population. It's a very small number. If
we wanted to commit genocide, believe me, we could do
it in no time. Fifty something fifty four thousand will

(51:57):
kill in the span of eighteen months, a year and
a half in war. That's it's a tiny number. And
most of those are are combatants. And like for example,
Israel this week posted in a neighborhood of communists, they
posted photographs for the local population saying this is where
the terrorists are and this is what we're going to attack,

(52:17):
So get out if you're not in, if you're in
those buildings, states, steer clear of them, and they were
posting photographs. Israel hasn't. I don't know if ever actually
done that of the buildings that we're about to attack.
I mean, we're insane, to be honest with you, I think.
You know, someone wrote this week, you know, the new
the new offensive in Israel. They named it. They called

(52:41):
the mission Gideon's Chariot. So someone said, you know, I'm
tired of these cute names. Let's call it. Let's finish,
Let's finish them off.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
Let's call it.

Speaker 7 (52:50):
That's what we should call the mission. Let's finish them off.
You know, it's uh, and it's just dragging and and
and we're just playing into the hands of our enemy.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
And let it be done.

Speaker 7 (53:02):
Pull the band aid off, give it everything you got,
and let's finish this now.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Trump Trump has announced the building of a dome to
protect us, just like Israel has a dome from uh,
you know. For He's saying, look, we have no way
of protecting ourselves right now from a nuclear hit. So

(53:27):
you guys took it on. Who made it up? Ronald Reagan?
And who who prevented it from happening? Joe Biden of
all people. Gee, look, the gift that keeps on giving, you.

Speaker 7 (53:41):
Know, the country is something I don't think. You know,
obviously Donald Trump didn't mean to build a physical dome.
It's a dome that works, you know, with the we
we have the iron dome system. But you know, one
thing that is has learned is that when you build
a great defensive system, nobody has sympathy for you because
nobody's dying. And had we not had the iron dome

(54:06):
and Israelis were dying in wholesale numbers, you know, we
might have more sympathy.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
But you know that'sesting in order to be popular, we
have to die. You got to die.

Speaker 7 (54:18):
Is that There's the title of the book that came out,
you know, not long ago, it's maybe a year or
two ago, called the World Loves Dead Jews. You know,
they don't love what Jews fight back. You know, they
want us to be the victim. They want us to
you know, and then we can get some sympathy if
we're willing to die, you know.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
You know that's that's that's why I love being a Jew.
I like to fight. Yeah, I mean I don't want
to fight like that, but I like to fight back.
I mean, if people are going to pick it on me,
I'm going to fight back. Right.

Speaker 7 (54:49):
It's like when when when Hamas says, we want to
kill all of you, and they want us to negotiate.
What do we say, how about just kill half of us?
You know, how do you negotiate with that?

Speaker 2 (54:59):
You already hostages and uh and you won't give them back.
So what are we negotiating about here? Right?

Speaker 7 (55:06):
What do we say we'll meet you halfway?

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Well, you could kill half of the housages and we'll
find Yeah, that's crappy.

Speaker 7 (55:14):
It's it's not about land this battle, you know. And
that's the people think it's not about it.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
I think it's about land. I think they want to
kill every Jew from the river to the sea they
see explicitly, right, and then they're going to take over.
This is This is not what I This is not
fighting for a second government. This is fighting to take
it all right, right, And.

Speaker 7 (55:36):
It's what I mean. I mean, it's not it's not
a battle about land, meaning that they want to have
a state alongside of Israel. They want a jihadi caliphate
that goes from from Israel to the United States and back.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
They want the entire.

Speaker 7 (55:50):
World to be under Shariah law and right. And that's
how they see it. It's not a battle of land,
meaning that they if we only had our country, we'd
live in be It's not about two states. It's not
about the land. It's about their warped mentality.

Speaker 8 (56:06):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (56:07):
And America doesn't wake up and see this is a
wake up call, It's going.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
To end up like friends, you know. Yeah, But I
don't know, I don't know if they care before you
know it, I don't know if they care too much
about two Jews dying.

Speaker 7 (56:20):
But but if there is there ought to be as
a symbol.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
They ought to be. They ought to be concerned about
it because it could just happen to Christians or anyone else.

Speaker 7 (56:32):
Before you know, you're going to be serving Kalala or McDonald's,
you know, because the population is going to there.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
You go, because they have a lot of babies. Your
point about babies is really, uh, really interesting, because what
what are we doing. We're committing genocide upon ourselves by
not having babies, all right.

Speaker 7 (56:54):
Uh, you know, I know in Europe it's even less
than the United States.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
They're killing themselves birth right, they're killing the countries and
in Europe they're taking in all sorts of Islamic people
and they're they're having a lot of kids. And it's
it's a it's a long term uh, it's a long
term way to win over the world.

Speaker 7 (57:20):
I just I just looked up here. The United States
birth rate steadily decline over the last fifteen years is
at one point six. You know, they're literally doubling that.
You know, you bring in you bring in half a
million Muslims into the country that are giving birth at
the rate of three point five. You know, they're gonna

(57:40):
you know, in ten years years, it's going to be
like friends, sure.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
What already is You see a big difference between now
and a decade ago, you know, so it's incredible. How
on the on the political side of the ten seven
mask or how is Israel doing colleges politicians things like that,

(58:04):
are they doing are they or yeah, are they doing
anything well? Or in is Israel?

Speaker 7 (58:14):
So you know, of course we have our left wing
like you do. And then the colleges and you know,
not so much in college, but more in the streets
of Tel Aviv, you have people protesting and the war
at all costs and meaning even leaving Hamas in power.
And we had yet year Agolan, who's the head of

(58:34):
the left wing here and the left wing parties, who
made an absolute absurd statement that just gave fuel and
fodder to the haters around the world. You know, and
when he when he says to the extent that that
Israeli likes killing babies, you know, like it's one thing
when you have an anti Semite, say, when you have
someone who was an idea that is in the opposition

(58:56):
of the government saying like that, you're just feeding right
into this, into these lines. And well he took so
much heat here in Israel, but nobody cares about that.
He's being quoted all over to zero.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Oh yeah, Palestinian plans. This is this is a way
of turning this around a little bit, because Palestinian clans
look to join the Abraham Accords after the ten to
seven ward. Do you know anything about that?

Speaker 7 (59:25):
The Palestinian I know, Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
Was well, yeah, but I'm talking about Palestinians. It's in
the I believe it's in the JP, the Jerusalem Post.
Really yeah, I.

Speaker 7 (59:38):
Had not heard that.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
Look it up. I mean, I mean, I was shocked.

Speaker 7 (59:43):
I mean, that would be a shocker, and I don't
I don't think I would trust them as part of it.
There'd have to be a lot of confidence building measures.
But you know, at the moment, I don't think I
would trust Syria either. Again, they would have you know,
six months ago there leaders were part of al Qaida.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
You know. Well, Trump seems to think that that you know,
he's going to He took away all the all the
sanctions from YEA and they're all celebrating this, and he says,
you know what, I don't like this guy, but he
is what he is, and I can talk to him.
He can talk to me, and I can show him
a different way to do things.

Speaker 7 (01:00:22):
And he gave him a list of things. Trump, yeah,
you know, saying if you meet, if you meet, all
these things, which I don't think he would, but you know,
he gave them a path, give him a shot, path
to He gave him a path to normalization with Israel.
He gave him a path we'll see, you know. Like
one thing Jews are is that we are very hopeful,

(01:00:45):
you know, as much as we might have to be
suspicious of our enemies in this area, but we're hopeful
that maybe one day, like Libya. You know, Libya was
the big enemy of Israel, and then they just decided
to give up all their nuclear ambitions. They gave it
up the moment's notice, you know. So not saying we
became friends with Libya, but they became they no longer

(01:01:07):
became a threat in this region.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
So now they want to put a thousand, a million
a man from Gaza Yea in there. Yeah, that's that's
going to be interesting. The Iran deal, the chances are
what BB and Trump we're talking. Negotiations are going on
right now.

Speaker 7 (01:01:28):
Look, I think they're slipping away. They're in their fifth
round now. The Foreign minister of Iran it said, you know,
we could agree to no nuclear weapons, but yes we
will enrich but the United States is no enrichment. They're
enriching to sixty percent, which is way beyond what they
need for nuclear power, which is I think is only

(01:01:52):
thirty percent. So that's where are they going with this?

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Because Trump will break them, he will he will make
them again. Yeah, all right, so I think there's gonna
be something done. They're not stupid, okay, they're they're they're
smart enough to understand that this.

Speaker 7 (01:02:10):
Is it's not always about being stupid. They don't always
do what's in their best interests. I know that sounds crazy,
but that's how the Middle East works.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Well, if they go broke, they're they're they're going to
have a big, big problem. And I don't know, Uh,
maybe they're waiting for the next uh Democrat to come
in or what.

Speaker 7 (01:02:29):
Look, I think in many ways they would rather go
broke than than than than broker a deal.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Okay, you got any bradby uh rants or scoops?

Speaker 7 (01:02:40):
I already think I gave you my grant at the beginning.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
But any scoops? Where's our where's our friend? Uh? What's
his name? Damn it? The Rondurmer? Yeah, what's he doing?
What's he doing? There's probably having lunch?

Speaker 7 (01:03:01):
No, you know it's five o'clock.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Can you say the word schmuck lunch? Can you call
a rabbi schmuck? I don't know. I wouldn't dare do that.

Speaker 7 (01:03:13):
I would stick with pots and butts.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Okay, that's what I do on the golf course. But anyways,
other than day white bomb show, where can people find
you and buy your book?

Speaker 7 (01:03:26):
Go to our website. Secrets in the Hebrew Bible dot org.
You can get this book even if you can't read Hebrew.
This book will connect you and introduce you to the
Hebrew Bible the ways that you can't. You never would
believe it's in English.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
It's English English, but has it has it has Hebrew
in it? Exactly right? And also where can people contribute to.

Speaker 7 (01:03:50):
You God to Our website is an alliance dot org
or Facebook dot com, ord slash is an alliance. This
week we had an amazing event.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
I'll tell you.

Speaker 7 (01:04:03):
We did a in Hebrew, it's called the Young Siluleme,
which means we invited widows to come to a beautiful,
beautiful park and we had ten volunteer photographers to take
pictures of them and their kids. Remember, because all of them,
all the pictures that have are them and their husband
and their kids, and now they need new pictures of

(01:04:23):
their new families, and so there's a lot of pain
behind the pictures. There's a lot of you know, creative
new memories. And it was a really wonderful day in
the park and we had a book. Excuse me, we
had a balloon guy for the kids. Yeah, we brought
in an ice cream truck and pizza was a really
really wonderful event.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
So that was a lot. That was a lot of fun.

Speaker 7 (01:04:45):
So I see a little message here from pastor.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Yeah, well, sure enjoyed your trip to our church. Was
a great meeting. So uh so good to see you
in Ariel. And well there's explanation points that it looks
like an hel your speech and teaching was excellent. I

(01:05:09):
would agree with that, and he.

Speaker 5 (01:05:11):
Enjoyed having you stay with us too. We're sorry it
was so abbreviated.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 7 (01:05:17):
How did your grint so well?

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
He didn't do it. You know, he's a freshman out there,
and some of these kids out there really good. Now
we're talking about State and some of them are really good.
But he didn't, you know what, he didn't do good
the first day and the second day he did great.
He shot an eighty six the second day and that's
pretty tough that that would have been one of the
better scores for almost the whole tournament. And it's a freshman.

(01:05:44):
He's hitting the ball like he hit a three wood
about two hundred and seventy yards. He was told by
a coach, yeah, go ahead and hit it, and there
were other kids on the on the green. He figured
he's going to be about fifty yards short. He puts
it on the green and nobody, nobody said anything, but that.

Speaker 7 (01:06:02):
Was Did you say you said he shot in eighty six?

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Yeah? Listen?

Speaker 7 (01:06:08):
Is that do with Komy from the FBI?

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
Yeah, yeah, he aged six, did right eighty six?

Speaker 7 (01:06:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
Oh my god, Yeah, that's what he was thinking when
he shot that. He was really shooting in eighty four.
He says, I gotta I gotta send a message. No,
that's right, Yeah, there you go. Did you hear about
the man who killed Tony the Tiger? He was he
was arrested and in the investigation proved that he was
a serial killer, serial killer. All right, right, got it

(01:06:43):
great to see you and I had the family and
that special kid you got stialn war. All right, gets
over you guys soon, thank you? All right, all about
all the best. We got to do a commercial here
and we're going to be right back, and we got
other things to do. And then at ninet thirty, we've

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got the McCluskey's and that's going to be something else,
because we're talking about now they're they they're going to
be able to get all the information from the one
sixth Committee Uh, they have been subpoena I believe, for
all the information, for all the stuff they lied about,

(01:07:24):
for all the all the bs that went on. And
we're going to see some major hit backs because of
what Ryan Zinc did.

Speaker 6 (01:07:35):
Yeah, and is what about the surveillance footage? Is that
included as well?

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
I think so?

Speaker 4 (01:07:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
Oh my god. And the judge, Uh, he's in trouble Beesburg, Beesburg,
remember that name. And he was out there, you know,
telling Trump you can't send these people back to their
home countries. Remember that? Okay? And he sort of shut
his mouth now because the Supreme Court ruled on that.
All right, we're going to be back in a little while.

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Don't touch the dial. We don't have a dial, but
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Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
Okay, we're back back on the show. And uh, thank
you for all the happy wishes about our our marriage
and and five six years together. I'm glad she's not
in the room right now because she'd probably slap me.
We got some pretty flowers over there, brought to you
by Summer Summer. Golly, what's her last name? Huh Chapman,

(01:14:38):
Summer Chapman. I got it right, Okay, well it used
to be other things. Hello, one time it was Winebaum. Right.
We have we have an interesting situation here. We have
We have my son has that. That was my son's

(01:15:01):
wife summer. They divorced, she remarried, she was Summer Cyrus
then and then she remarried again, and now she's Chapman.
And my son now has changed his name to Brenda Lewis.
So his name is is Aaron Lewis Weinbaum. I don't

(01:15:22):
know how that happened, but you know I was lying
about that, I was. I don't care anyways. What I
need to stop why? I thought it was pretty funny, okay?
And what are you carrying? Cottage cheese or what? And tomatoes? Okay,

(01:15:43):
my wife is going to eat now, she's gonna she's
gonna make funny noises on the side. Okay, let's do
a couple more clips, and let's do some funny stuff
after that, Okay, hit.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
It, and less than four months, our new administration has
achieved more than most other administrations accomplished in four years
or even eight years. We've actually done, for the most
part more. The day took office, we inherited, Thank you,

(01:16:18):
thank you. The day took office, we inherited a colossal
invasion on our southern border, an evasion like you'd never
want to see here, nobody should ever want to see it.
But within weeks we slashed illegal border crossings to an
all time low, down ninety nine point nine nine nine percent.

(01:16:41):
That's good, even for this great gentleman standing right in
front of me. That's a good number. After years of
military recruiting shortfalls, enlistments in the US Armed Forces are
now the highest and thirty years, because there is such
an incredible spirit in the United States of America.

Speaker 7 (01:17:01):
We have tremendous spirit.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
Again.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
Just about a year ago, it was a big story,
front page on every paper all over the world that
nobody wanted to enlist in our military, meaning we were
way under enlisted. And just last week it came out
that we had the strongest enlistment. They say thirty years,
but probably it's maybe ever they don't go back that far.

Speaker 4 (01:17:27):
It's the best.

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
And that includes police officers, fireman everything else. Is a
great spirit in the United States right now.

Speaker 17 (01:17:35):
You know, there's a ten year delayed and delay in
the Soviet Union of delivery of an automobile. And you
go through quite a process when you're ready to buy,
and then you put up the money in advance. This man,
he laid down his money, and then the fellow that
was in charge said to him, Okay, come back in
ten years and get your car.

Speaker 7 (01:17:54):
And he said morning or afternoon.

Speaker 17 (01:18:00):
And and the fellow behind the counter said, well, ten
years from now, what difference does it make? And he said, well,
the plumber's coming in the morning.

Speaker 18 (01:18:17):
When I was a little boy in New York City
in the nineteen forties, we swam in the Hudson.

Speaker 19 (01:18:22):
River and it was filled with raw sewage. Okay, we
swam in raw sewage.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
You know, to cool off.

Speaker 19 (01:18:31):
And at that time, the big fear was polio. Thousands
of kids died from polio every year. But you know something,
in my neighborhood, no one ever got polio, no one ever.

Speaker 4 (01:18:40):
You know why, because we swam in raw sewage. It
strengthened our immune systems.

Speaker 8 (01:18:47):
The polio.

Speaker 18 (01:18:48):
Never had a prayer. We were tempered in raw. She
so so personally, I never take any special precautions against germs.

Speaker 19 (01:18:58):
I don't shy away from people to sneeze and cough.

Speaker 4 (01:19:01):
I don't wipe up the telephone. I don't cover the toilet.

Speaker 19 (01:19:03):
See now, if I drop food on the floor, I
pick it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
Up and I ate it. Okay, Well, we're back on
the show shortly. We're gonna have McCluskey's on and some
some updates from yesterday. Putin and Zelensky, uh uh. We're
in a war ending conference now. Both of them have

(01:19:26):
done something I think that looks good like they're gonna
Oh they're gonna trade prisoners back and forth. That sounds
like a good sign, doesn't it. What do you think, JP?
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:19:41):
It could be. It's I mean, these kind of deals
that they can go wrong and go bad to From
what I've heard, I think it sounds like it's I
think it might work.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
But I can't see them wanting to go through this.
And Trump is going to put pressure on both of them.
He's got a lot of pressure that he can put
on uh. Zelensky obviously because he he's he's at the
low end of this deal. And I know that. I
know that Putin invaded, but he invaded him because of

(01:20:12):
who the Biden administration. For god's sakes, the guy even said, yeah,
come in, don't do too much damage. But yeah, he's
a brief four Yeah, that'll be fine. Yeah, he let
him right in the front door. Trump is going to
put sanctions on the guy. Uh, he's got he he
has a lot of things he can do. He can

(01:20:32):
shut he can shut down one of their major industries,
which is oil.

Speaker 6 (01:20:40):
To me, when seeing Zelensky the way he turned a
complete about face, I mean it was a full three
hundred and sixty degree turn from when he visited the
you know, the White House. Ye, all that went on,
how he was acting, to then days later, Okay, okay, okay,
let's do the deal.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
Yeah. I mean, he was like Trump, he's desperate for
a deal, which also means that that Putin is going
to put a little pressure more pressure on him because
he's in the birds seed right there. You know. But
I don't think. I don't think after this period of time,
he's going to keep some of the things that he

(01:21:17):
achieved in Ukraine. He's going to get to keep it,
all right, that's the that's the problem that Joe Biden costs,
all right. But what's going to happen is if they
I think they have a deal now for the minerals,
for the minerals that are worth you know, billions of

(01:21:39):
dollars in the dirt of Ukraine, of all things. And
if they have those, you're going to have if the
u United States has rights to those, we're going to
have United States people in there working these minds. So
I think we're going to have a hand up there

(01:22:00):
and in Israel if we have Israel going to be
run by the United States, going to be fixed by
the United States and Israel in a partnership. You're going
to have Americans there. You're going to have tourists there.
I mean, Gaza has an opportunity. It's in one of
the nicest places on earth. It wasn't the Jew's fault

(01:22:24):
that Gaza was used as a as a fort with
tunnels all over the place.

Speaker 6 (01:22:31):
I continue to be just flabbergasted by the narrative that
I read. I was very high at one point on
cana Zwenes months ago. As a matter of fact, at
one point, I thought she'd be a great VP choice
for Trump in this last I told her that. And yeah,
and I remember you bringing up several times that her

(01:22:53):
her rhetoric had completely changed. Well, I don't get on
Twitter and all that very much. Well, I've got a
Twitter account, I don't really use it, so I reactivated
last night. Started looking around, and all of sudden kinge
Zone starts popping up and all the writer, well what
do you expect? Of course, these murders happen whenever you're
having genocide and gods, and I'm like, there we go here,
there it is again, where is is coming from?

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
It is just she's a smart person. I don't get
to stand. Why don't you No, she's a smart person.
She was saying a lot of smart things. Uh, And
she was actually liking some of the stuff I was doing.
And I was telling her that, you know, she should
be the vice president eventually maybe even president, and she
was loving all that, and all of a sudden she

(01:23:32):
turned out of the Jews. Yes, I don't understand. And
it's such an obvious.

Speaker 6 (01:23:38):
We have some local people that I know, some that
I thought I knew well that have began to really
show their anti Semitic ways.

Speaker 5 (01:23:45):
And it's blatantly.

Speaker 6 (01:23:47):
Yeah, it's just it's just it's astonishing. Honestly.

Speaker 5 (01:23:51):
They're calling him out on it too, and he still
just argues and refuses to see what he's doing.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
In other words, we're gonna name We're not gonna name
any of these people.

Speaker 11 (01:24:02):
Okay, well, wouldn't matter.

Speaker 5 (01:24:03):
He changes his Facebook name every month or so.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
Oh okay, yeah, it's not.

Speaker 6 (01:24:07):
It's somebody else that he actually did at one time
sub for me one time on this show. It's been
several pibly two or three years ago now at this point,
and it's just actually been very interesting to see how
things have changed.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
You know, people who you know, I do. Most of
this audience is Christian. Okay, sure, I go out to
different countries and all that stuff and all over the world,
but but the major, the major audience is Christian and

(01:24:42):
and you know, Christians they want you to be believe
in Jesus as the Savior. And Jews a lot of us,
like me and the rabbi and others, say, wait a minute,
the guy God told us in the Commandments that we
were only to pray for one God. And somehow Christians

(01:25:06):
have some Christians have taken that and said, well that
there is only one God, but it's in three different forms.
So you know, it's confusing to us Jews that that
see that, and then that's the reason they want us

(01:25:28):
to change, because it just it doesn't in our minds.
If there's going to be a change, God's going to
have to say this is what I'd like you to do,
and he hasn't said it. Okay, And we don't believe
God is three people or three lives. And I know
you're you're a Christian, and I understand where you're coming from.

(01:25:51):
But at least you guys ain't pushing us, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:25:54):
But and the other thing too, is that this is
part of what Rabbi Moshe's mission has been. And now,
of course that's evolved because look what he's doing now.
But the core what started all was bringing everybody together
under what the shared belief is. And just like when
we were together last Sunday afternoon, a few of us
were prepared in case anything went down and we would

(01:26:16):
have given our life to protect whoever, it didn't matter
who it was. And so because that's what we believe in.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
So your mother is a great example of a Christian
who is a friend of Jews and understand that we're
all kind of like in the same group for goodness sakes. Yeah,
there's some differences, but why would we want to go
against each other, you know, I mean, look, in the

(01:26:43):
old days, Christians did a lot of damage to Jews,
and there's still a lot of people out there that
don't like Jews who happened to be Christian. But all
in all, it's same religion. I mean, I love it
when I hear Christians, and I do listen to them,

(01:27:05):
and when they're talking about the Old Testament, it's very
refreshing to hear that because it's Judaism. I am, that's Judaism,
that's the Torah.

Speaker 6 (01:27:18):
I'm doing a Bible plan right now where I read
every day, trying to read the Bible in about a
year and a half the full Bible. I just started
Exodus this morning, and I just started reading about Moses again,
and I just read in Genesis before that, you know,
from Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, that whole liniage to Joseph
and all that happened there in Egypt. And so now
now we're on to Moses, and of course of the

(01:27:39):
story of how he's going to eventually be led by
God to take the Israelites out.

Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
Of Egypt to the Red Sea.

Speaker 6 (01:27:45):
It's just cool getting to go back, because again, the
whole thing is for those of us that are Christians
and believe in Jesus. Yes, but Jesus was a Jew.
Jesus was a Jew, and our faith is derived from Judaism.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
And that's just how it is, followed all the commandments
from the Lord, including praying to the Lord as a
singular as a singular uh God and the only God.
All right, so, and it hasn't changed, but others will

(01:28:16):
interpret it differently because they have Mother Mary and they
have Jesus. And right, honey, she's she's not going to
talk about it because she's a minister. You see. Stop that, Okay,
the stop one. Yes, yes, and I'm a June. We're married, right, we.

Speaker 5 (01:28:37):
Have to agree to disagree respectfully.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
I'm fine with that.

Speaker 7 (01:28:41):
Okay, yes, very good.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
You're not mad at me because I'm not going to
be here. Wait a minute, Wait a minute, what happens
at the end of the.

Speaker 6 (01:28:50):
Year, and the contract verbal agreement is legally binding as well.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
So that wait, that sounds like a threat. I mean,
if you don't, you know, if you know changes and
well you're doing the next year. I guess, well, no,
it depends on whether I convert or not. Because that's her,
that's her, that's her function is to get Jews to
turn Christian. And she's not going to work with me.
It's in there. I read it. Tell me I'm wrong.

(01:29:18):
You're taking it a bit far, Okay, but I'm not wrong.

Speaker 5 (01:29:23):
Nobody says that that's our goal in life. I thought,
I read it and find Jewish people and convert them.

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
Anywhere. I think it's written on the sword that she
can to share.

Speaker 5 (01:29:34):
The good news with others, but not convert Jews specifically.

Speaker 6 (01:29:39):
Okay, there's a lot, there's a lot of unbelievers that
are out there that we just need to convert, period.

Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
That are just people. Rico Camino, good morning. And I
saw a flicker. Oh my gosh, we got a full
house there. Hey, well a full house. Wow, happy issues there.
You know it's a little old with you program turned

(01:30:07):
him up. I don't know, he's a little he's a
little shy, you know. Ladies and gentlemen. The McCluskey's Pat,
Patricia and Mark stood off three hundred and fifty BLM
and Antifa, who breached his home and threatened to rape

(01:30:29):
his wife and kill them both, and has gone on
to be famous for the fact that he stood up
for his rights. He didn't run away like a scared baby.
He stood for his rights and his property. And they're
still not only not only are they alive and well,

(01:30:52):
but they have the most interesting things they're doing right now.
Please welcome all the way I believe from Saint Louis
and pat McCluskey. Well, welcome back, Patricia. Have you been
keeping the boat going? Well he was lolly gagging around?

Speaker 13 (01:31:12):
Or what exactly what.

Speaker 4 (01:31:13):
The heck of a boat it is?

Speaker 7 (01:31:15):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:31:15):
Because we got hit by a hurricane tornadoes?

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
Oh you got you did you get personally hit? Well?

Speaker 4 (01:31:21):
No, the our house was spared with the neighborhood looks
like an h bomb has gone off. No kid lost
parts of their rooms, their chimneys, some of the houses
and trees go right through them. All of our trees
are gone. I mean one hundred year old oak trees
just snapped off midstream and pulled out.

Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
Of the ground.

Speaker 4 (01:31:37):
So and said, well we get an interesting We still
don't have power at the house. We're doing this from
the office. Well, now the day without electricity there.

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
Do you have any Do you have a generator?

Speaker 4 (01:31:46):
I'm not not here at the farm, we do and
said that our house, you know, the generator would be
the size of a car. So we you know, we've
just been living in the dark, as they say. But
if people say haven't in the dark, my entire life.

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
So okay, Well, I'm sorry to hear that, and I
hope everything comes out all right. But and I'm glad
you called because there's so much stuff going on here,
especially with you and the one sixer. Yeah that things.

Speaker 4 (01:32:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so January sixth, Now, I got.

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
A lot of stuff here. Uh so you and uh
and Peter Tickton? Who's Peter Tickton? Who is? Yeah? Who was?

Speaker 4 (01:32:23):
He and Donald Trump were roommates in military school and
their kids and then Peter went on to become an attorney.
And Peter has been Trump's personal lawyer and friend ever since.
And he's a he's a good guy to have on
the team. In other words, he's got the big guys here.

Speaker 2 (01:32:37):
Okay, And you're both working to seek compensation for one
six defendants, including Ryan Zinc. What does uh, what is
the relationship between you and uh and and uh zinc.

Speaker 4 (01:32:54):
Well, you know I ran into Jeff when he was
running for congress the first time on your program.

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
Program, right, Hey, I had something to do with this,
all righty, I knew there was something.

Speaker 4 (01:33:06):
And then we had breakfast down in Phoenix one time.
We're out there and met jen AND's wife. And then
Ryan and I met down at Eagle Pass, Texas when
we were down there for the truckers rally a year
or so ago, and we just became friends. But you know,
I've been following a lot of the Jay sixers. A
guy named Derek Evans who'd been on my program. I
don't know if he's ever been on yours, but he
was running for Congress in West Virginia when he got

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January sixth, and he got he got he got next
by six as they say.

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
Yeah, you guys are coming up with slogans.

Speaker 4 (01:33:38):
Oh yeah, hey, mids stream here. You know, I've never
used that one before. But they're having a they're having
a Jay sixth reunion today and tomorrow in Fredericksburg, Texas,
which about an hour ago of San Antonio. I didn't
learn about it in time.

Speaker 2 (01:33:52):
To be there.

Speaker 4 (01:33:52):
There's gonna be one out in Springfield, Missouri on July
the sixth, which is so you know, any JAY sixers
out there, it's going to you know, it's going to
be a good reunion. We sent a whole bunch of
packets of sign up packets down to Jenny chud Cudd
in Fredericksburg for all the JA sixers out there they

(01:34:13):
might want to sign up this weekend, you know, at
the reunion where unfortunately I'm not going to be there.

Speaker 2 (01:34:19):
Well, clearly you believe that crimes were committed by the
Biden Obama administration on one six twenty one. Uh, what
are the specific crimes you're addressing.

Speaker 4 (01:34:32):
Well, here's I'll I'll give you a flavor for what happened.
If you came from the Ellipse to hear President Trump
speech and you went to the east side of the Capitol,
you showed up. Capitol police officers were holding the doors open,
having people walk in, waving them in like this and
then shaking their hands. Yeah this, buffing them, high fiving them,

(01:34:52):
getting putting selfie's taken with them. If you walked in
there for even six seconds. We've got one guy who
was in for six seconds. Then sometimes down the road,
the FBI wakes you up at six o'clock in the
morning with kicking your door in. You've opened the door,
there's thirty swat guys in full combat gear. You got
laser dots all over here from their sites. Your four

(01:35:13):
year old kids have got laser dots all over. People
got tanks and you're a hilicop.

Speaker 1 (01:35:17):
That's wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:35:17):
A misdemeanor trespass charges for which they haul you off
to jail. Some people did six months. A lot of
people did six months in federal prison for a misdemeanor
trespass after the cops waved him into the Capitol building
and their people that got if you actually did anything
like you resisted being killed. At about two twenty pm
on January sixth, when there's about a million people around

(01:35:41):
the Capitol building, all of a sudden, Capitol Police and
Metro cops for no apparent reason started launching grenades into
the crowd, reverend bullets, and one guy got. If you
think grubber bullets are harmless, there's one guy get with
the rubber ball right through his cheek and knocked out
his teeth right big hole in the side of his face.
Those flash bang grenades are not benign things. They were

(01:36:03):
blowing people's faces off. I mean, they're explosive devices. And
then they started tear gassing. This is a fun part.
At about two twenty the Metro cops started releasing tear gas,
but the wind's blowing towards them, and so they just
gassed all themselves. And then after they went to dessert.
If a cops hitting you with a trudgean, which they
started doing right then if you put your hand up

(01:36:24):
to block it, if the trudgean hits your hand, that
was described as assault on a police office.

Speaker 2 (01:36:29):
That you were assaulting the police officer right.

Speaker 4 (01:36:32):
I took they got to still picture of your hand.
Out of a town like that. That was you got
charged with assault with a dangerous or deadly weapon on
a federal officer. That gets you years in prison. There
were some guys who spent fourteen hundred days in prison,
some guys that were eleven hundred days in solitary confinement
for doing essentially nothing. We represent one guy named Derek Bargo.

(01:36:55):
He was trying to set up a big truck flag.
The cop just comes. He's thirty feet up on the steps,
just shoves him no reason, knocks him down to thirty
feet and broke both his legs, head injury. Whole business,
I mean, just it was they can I guarantee you?

Speaker 2 (01:37:11):
Well, how do you have one? How do you have one? One? Uh?
The greeting crowd who is waving everybody in, bumping hands
and they're the cops, the same cops now in the
in the next part of the building. What kind of
a show is this where they're beating up all of.

Speaker 4 (01:37:31):
A sudden, Well, and that's what everybody we've talked to,
he said that they get invited in heah. You know,
for whatever reason, there were no restrooms anywhere. Even there
are a million people on the mall. Everybody's trying to
find a restroom. I can't tell you how many Jay
searchers I talked to that came into the Capitol just
to be able to use the restroom and out the
where's the toilet? And he's show them where you go down.

(01:37:51):
You take the right and you take a left, use
the toilets. And then all of a sudden they got
somebody gave the command to start beating people, and all
of a sudden, the cops start clubing mkyan to leave
the area. It was just straight attacked by the police.

Speaker 2 (01:38:07):
Amazing, Yeah, it's amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:38:11):
Then they beat him and then they charged it with
pelonies for defending themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
And they and uh, where were the where were the
lawyers that were supposed to be able to represent people
before they went to jail.

Speaker 4 (01:38:25):
Well, here's here's the best part of it. Right, almost
all the public defenders were Democrats that told our clients,
you deserve to be in prison. You should confess that
you're you're all, you're all insurrection in jail. And the
judges in almost all these cases would say its sentencing.
Here's another part, Right, if you got charged with assaulting

(01:38:46):
a police officer, which almost everybody did, the police officer
would never come into testify at your trial, right or
or or your plea hearing. They would say, I don't
remember this guy, No, he never touched me. And then
it's sentencing the exact same office. So as you would
come in this is after he plead guilty. Then the
cops come in at sentencing and say he beat me
severely wounded. That case, you're five more years.

Speaker 2 (01:39:09):
So it was all a setup. It was all set up,
all set up who was behind it.

Speaker 4 (01:39:14):
We don't know yet, but I guarantee you we're going
to find out. And now with Ed martin In in
his position as the weaponizations are, I guarantee you we're
going to find that there's a paper trail going up
to Merrick Garland and Christopher Ray and maybe the White
House whoever was acting as president during I.

Speaker 2 (01:39:30):
Don't think there's any doubt that Nancy Pelosi had something
to do with this.

Speaker 4 (01:39:34):
Absolutely. I guarantee you we're going to find a paper
trail away. Somebody issued the edict that the J six
defenders will be treated more harshly in the manner of
their arrests, the manner of their persecution, and the manner
of their imprisonment than any other similar charge defenders in
the history of America. I mean, the FBI doesn't investigate misdemeanors.
The FBI doesn't arrest people for misdemeanors. Misdemeanor defenders don't

(01:39:58):
go to federal prison unless you're January six. Then you've
got thirty five FBI officers in riot here with tanks
in your front yard, Pilar caapis circling your house machine
guns the point of your entire family and then you
go to federal prison for misdemeanor trespass.

Speaker 19 (01:40:12):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:40:12):
This is this is bound to evolve abuses in financial
persecution of one six ers. Uh and hearings in Congress.
What evidence are you gathering to prove these claims and
how do you plan to present it?

Speaker 4 (01:40:28):
Well, here's here's here's a fun thing. The government's faked evidence.
The government hid evidence. The government doctored videos and doctor
and photos. There are people that were said that they
were police officers who are in the same location being
beaten by the same guy, even though there's video evidence
that they were on opposite sides of the capital at
that time, could not possibly have been where they testified

(01:40:49):
their work. I mean it's there. There's there's Bluemits's evidence.
And Peter Tickton I believe he's got video going back
to September of twenty twenty, where you know, a video
conferdence for people are setting up and planning the people
from the Biden administration.

Speaker 2 (01:41:03):
They're rehearsing it. Yeah, they're rehearsing September of twenty twenty.

Speaker 4 (01:41:11):
Yeah, just before the election. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, wow.

Speaker 2 (01:41:17):
So they were planning to destroy the Republicans and their
followers back before the election.

Speaker 4 (01:41:27):
The game plan was to stage You know what they've wanted.
I said this the whole time I was running per
Senate too. What they really left really wants is the
Kent State type situation where they've got some bodies on
the ground they can put on television and say that
these bodies are the result of white Republican extremism and
put us all and concentration amps. But the real purpose

(01:41:47):
of January sixth was to stage a quote insurrection by
the government against the people and then be able to
call Trump an insurrectionist and prohibit him from being president
again under the fourteenth Amendment. I believe that was the
real setup. The secondary purpose of it was to intimidate
the rest of the American people to say, if you

(01:42:09):
stand up for your rights, if you protest the election,
we will harass you, we will swat you, we will
proscuse you, will imprison you, we will ruin you.

Speaker 2 (01:42:18):
Uf none thing.

Speaker 4 (01:42:18):
People get a job anymore. You can get a job. Yeah,
of all, every essentially everybody got fired in the day
they got arrested. Now even after they've been pardoned, they
get a job. Somebody calls up two days later said
I'm sorry, We've googled you. You're a terrorist. You're fired.

Speaker 2 (01:42:33):
Well, both you and Tickton have suggested an insurrection occurred
on one six twenty one. Please clarify and what you
meant by that For clients like Ryan Zinc.

Speaker 4 (01:42:48):
It's an insurrection by the government.

Speaker 2 (01:42:49):
It was a good okay, So you were talking about
the insurrection as a crime from the people that were
persecuted and prosecuted. You're talking about it from the government.

Speaker 13 (01:43:01):
Was the.

Speaker 4 (01:43:03):
Conspiracy from the highest levels of the government to violate
the protesters constitutional rights and to intimidate the American people,
And every single one of these people when they're when
they're being offered a plead deal, they say, look, you
you plead guilty to these misdemeanors or these telonies, or
we will go to prison for the rest of your life.

Speaker 1 (01:43:21):
There you.

Speaker 4 (01:43:21):
But but if if you say Trump sets you up
to do this, then we'll give you a lighter sentence.
Everybody was told that if they if they if they
fabricate evidence against Donald Trump, they'll get a lighter sentence.

Speaker 2 (01:43:34):
And was that true.

Speaker 4 (01:43:36):
No, No, it's not true.

Speaker 2 (01:43:37):
And and and nobody that that they got a lighter sentence.

Speaker 4 (01:43:43):
Afterwards, Nobody nobody rolled on Trump. Nobody thinks nobody.

Speaker 2 (01:43:48):
Nobody rolled on Trump. That's interesting, you know, like.

Speaker 4 (01:43:51):
Honest, god fearing, law abiding Republicans. People said a lot
of people went to trial rather than plead guilty because
they said, we cannot, in good conscious perjur ourselves by
pleading guilty to a crime we didn't commit.

Speaker 2 (01:44:03):
Well, as an example of the judges, tell us about
Judge Boseburg and how how you'll handle him during legal proceedings.

Speaker 4 (01:44:14):
Well, here's the thing, and all the lawyers listening to
this will understand this. All judges have to be lawyers.
All lawyers have to obey the rules of ethics. Rules
of ethics say that if you're a fact finder, if
you're the judge, or if you're the judge for a
jury tried case, you can't make an opinion about the
ultimate issue, guilt or innocence until you've heard all the evidence. Right,
every jury is instructed, don't make up your mind, don't

(01:44:36):
discuss this case until you've heard all the evidence. What
Judge Boseburg and a lot of these other judges up
there in the DC Circuit called our clients, criminals, insurrectionists, seditionists,
treason US criminals before they'd hurt any evidence. And that's that's,
you know, and that is as unconstitutional as un American

(01:44:57):
as you could possibly get. Then that's sentencing. I can't
say how many times I've heard this. The judge says, look,
you didn't do anything wrong, but I have to make
an example out of you. Right, So here's your sentence.
So I'm you for what you actually did, but I'm
making an example out of you to warn other people
not to do the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:45:16):
So what's the ultimate goal here?

Speaker 4 (01:45:19):
Three things that're gree We got to find out exactly
who set all this up, find all the people involved.
Ed Martin said this on on the Maria Barcromo A
show two days ago. Got to find all the people
responsible for setting this up.

Speaker 20 (01:45:32):
And by the way, he's got a list of five
thousand FBI agents that are on that list.

Speaker 2 (01:45:37):
To go after. Then you gotta find then you gotta
wait him wit wait, wait, wait, I'm not sure I
understood that. Pet You're saying that five thousand FBI, Now
who are with the cash? And uh Bongino that they're
they're going to be put on the other FBI guys

(01:45:58):
and others in the Biden administration who did this.

Speaker 4 (01:46:02):
Yeah, he committed.

Speaker 20 (01:46:03):
The people that are FBI agents are going to be
put on a list or prosecuted for what they did.

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
Okay, they are going to.

Speaker 20 (01:46:11):
Be outed for what they did to either shame them
and docs them, or they're actually going to be criminally prosecuted,
five thousand of them for what they did on Jason.

Speaker 2 (01:46:21):
But they're responsibles. Hey, I'm in the FBI. I have
to I have to listen to orders.

Speaker 4 (01:46:26):
So here's so, here's here's a game than the Dave.
You get the FBI. You get the FBI agent who's
holding his machine gun on a four year old kid,
and you say to him, what kind of a reprehensible
baschard are you to hold a machine gun on a
four year old? And he's going to say, I was
ordered to do it. Again, who ordered you to do it?
I'll take his deposition right, And then mister mister I

(01:46:46):
told him to do it. What kind of reprehensible bastard
are you to order your FBI agent pull a machine
gun on a four year old? And he said it
wasn't me, it was him. I take that deposition, we
go up the chain until hit Merrick Garland. Hey, here's
an interesting thing. I was just reading a book by
a state senator from Oklahoma that that we met on
the campaign on the murror of building bombing in Oklahoma City.

(01:47:07):
Do you know who the US attorney was that arraigned
Timothy McVay.

Speaker 2 (01:47:12):
Uh was the Bowsbury Merrick Garland. Merrick Garland, Oh my god. Yeah,
he turned out to be a real winter, hasn't he. Yeah,
that's whatever his name is.

Speaker 4 (01:47:25):
Oh my god, for decades.

Speaker 2 (01:47:29):
So are you gonna are you going to start at
at lower courts and work your way up? You're going
to go straight to the Supreme Court?

Speaker 4 (01:47:36):
Well, you got if you got to start at the
circuit court level. But you know that's really uh Ed
Martin's job. I mean, I don't know how much you
know of Ed Martin, but he's a friend of from
Saint Louis. You used to be chairman of the Missouri
Republican Party. Then he was chief of staff for Republican governor.
He ran Phillips Flastley's Eagle for him. Uh, a really
great guy. You couldn't ask for a better guy to
be in that position. And you know when Senator Tom

(01:47:59):
tell Us killed his nomination to be the US Attorney
for DC. Yeah, shot himself on the foot because then
Ed moves out of that position into this new job
as the weaponizations are to investigate the weaponization of the government.
Now he's got broader responsibilities and more authority than he
had and the job that Tom Tillis kept him from getting.

Speaker 2 (01:48:19):
Oh all right, well that's cool.

Speaker 4 (01:48:22):
As the Lord moves in mysterious way.

Speaker 2 (01:48:24):
Yeah, so, so give me a little bit more update
on Ryan because he's one of the guys I believe
that he didn't accept the pardon. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:48:35):
Well, and I don't know, and I've had some conversations
with people on that which I can't disclose, but I
can tell you this that he's one of those guys
they got got totally screwed by the system. I mean
they and they sold his indictment to the grand jury
by claiming that he was personally responsible for the death
of Capital Officer Brian.

Speaker 2 (01:48:55):
Sis Who's they.

Speaker 4 (01:48:59):
The prosecute, the US attorney.

Speaker 2 (01:49:01):
But who do you say, where was the evidence? Who
wasn't there a cop that said he killed.

Speaker 4 (01:49:09):
And not just that he killed Brian Sisnick, but that
he was also a ringleader of the insurrection. On the
first day of trial, the government admits that not only
was Ryan not a ring leader of anything, not only
did he not kill officers, but he was never even
in the Capitol building, right, And so they moved to dismission.
You're guilty anyway. You can put on your defense if

(01:49:30):
you want to, but.

Speaker 1 (01:49:30):
You're guilty of what.

Speaker 7 (01:49:33):
Of?

Speaker 2 (01:49:34):
What of? What I mean? Did he make up something?

Speaker 4 (01:49:36):
Well, no, I'll tell you what Ryan did wrong. Bryan's
photographed the videotapers up there, videotaping for his dad, you know,
guest progressional campaign. He took movies of the insurrectionist surreal insurrectionist,
meaning the government agents were the agent's provocator. He had
video of himself trying to stop other people from breaking
windows and hurting cops. Got you got video of Brian saying, look,

(01:50:00):
so we're here to support them. Police not heard him.
They seized his cameras, they seized his memory cards, and
then when he wanted them back for his appeal, they said, oh,
we've lost it. It's been destroyed.

Speaker 2 (01:50:11):
Are you so are you demanding do you have a requests?
Uh that you want this evidence back?

Speaker 4 (01:50:20):
We will. I'm not handling that part of it. I
don't do any criminal at all, so I'm not handling
that part of it. But he's got good competent lawyers work.

Speaker 2 (01:50:28):
So when is this going to blow up in the press? Okay?
When is this? I mean this, this is it. I
mean I've said you, We've said things here that you
nobody's heard yet on anything that I know of, even
even in like uh X, which is supposedly you know,

(01:50:48):
now clean and able to do things like this, uh
Gateway Pundit. Uh even them too.

Speaker 4 (01:50:56):
They put out some articles. They put out some articles
about what we're doing and who's involved in it. I
think it's going to take a statement from from the
mouth of the Trump before this hitch the news, and
so I'm kind of waiting on that. Ed Martin's new
position is very helpful for us. I mean, he's an
honest guy, he's not intimidable. But it's going to take

(01:51:17):
the President saying something directly on it before this this
really gets moving.

Speaker 2 (01:51:21):
What will be the reaction of the Democrats who who
are They're they're acting like it right now because they're
they're causing all sorts of damage and all sorts of
these crazy judges are going out and saying taking over
the presidency and telling who who can be kicked out

(01:51:43):
of the country and who can't. They're acting as presidents,
and there's a lot of them.

Speaker 4 (01:51:48):
I think that when they when Donald Trump makes a
executive order or a decree about compensation for the Jay sixers,
the left is just going to explode. Their heads are
going to be all over there, gonna be like brain
matter all over every every CNN.

Speaker 2 (01:52:03):
And then they don't have any brain matter. That's why
they're dumbs. Come on, man, there's no brain matter in there.

Speaker 4 (01:52:13):
With their heads open up, it will just be the sucking.

Speaker 2 (01:52:15):
So sorry, sorry to my Democratic friends and Rolla, don't
hurt me, please, it's I can't wait.

Speaker 4 (01:52:23):
It'll be so much fun. But you know they're already
screaming about you know, the actually Babbitt Settlement, right yeah,
killing the capital by that Capitol police officer, about how
can you pay money to this treason is insurrection exactly.
She's a fourteen year Air Force veteran on the armed girl,
one hundred and eighteen pound girl, and a cop just

(01:52:44):
blows her, you know, puts a ballt right there.

Speaker 2 (01:52:46):
Yeah, and she was there goofing around with the cops.
I mean she was, she was laughing with these with
these guys.

Speaker 20 (01:52:53):
There were five DC police standing right behind her that
could have touched her and pulled her away if that's
what they want.

Speaker 2 (01:53:00):
Yeah, and what about this Michael, Michael Byrd, he was
the cop, right, They shot her and killed her and
she's unarmed. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:53:12):
So the next day, right, the thorough investigation of twenty
four hours vindicated him.

Speaker 2 (01:53:18):
Well, can you go back on that.

Speaker 4 (01:53:21):
No, it's too late.

Speaker 20 (01:53:22):
And he's been on TV now saying that he I
think it's too late.

Speaker 4 (01:53:27):
Heard it's too late.

Speaker 20 (01:53:29):
That he said hundreds of people's lives that day by
killing her, because these people were going to go in
there and kill hundreds.

Speaker 2 (01:53:36):
Oh my god, this has to come. This has to
come out with the absolute truth. You know what sounds
like to me. Remember when the Nazis had the Rakshlog
situation in nineteen ninety nineteen thirty three, where Hitler had

(01:53:59):
just lost the thirty three election, had got only eight
percent of the vote or something like that, and so
they set up the Reichstag as as a place that
had been taken over by the communists or similar to
this in.

Speaker 4 (01:54:16):
Seven days in seven days and outlawed all human rights
in Germany. They took over the press, they took away
you write a baby's corpus, they took away your right
to be securing your person and your property, and created
an absolute martial law seven days.

Speaker 2 (01:54:32):
Now, did they not use that as a model for this,
because it sounds almost exactly like it, doesn't it?

Speaker 1 (01:54:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:54:38):
Absolutely, yeah. In fact, I said there was exact words
on your program.

Speaker 2 (01:54:42):
Yeah, I mean I got it from you. Yes, I
did not. I knew it a long time. I actually
came up with that a lot. Okay, I'll give it
to you if you want. I don't want to piss
you off, because I want you to do your job
with these these sobs. And I want to see some
of them going to trial. You don't think the Democrats

(01:55:04):
some of them are scared to death of having to
go to trial. Now, coming up with the Biden situation, let.

Speaker 4 (01:55:11):
Me let me give you for instance. For instance, on
January the fifth of twenty twenty one, Nancy Pelosi had
a conversation with Mark Milly.

Speaker 8 (01:55:20):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:55:21):
Yeah, and she says, you know he's crazy, don't you mean? Trump?
And Milly says yes, and he's and she says, well,
what if he declares war on China? Milly says, well,
if if he does that, I'll warn the Chinese. Right,
then really calls in all his sub chiefs and has
them swear allegiance to him to hear that he will
not take orders from anybody but me, not even the president.

(01:55:41):
That was that was a coup, right, that was a
military coup. Right, then that's treason. That's that's punishable by death.
He WoT Pete Hegseth said two days ago, what he's
thinking of docking Millie one star? That will personally affect
his retirement income?

Speaker 7 (01:55:57):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:55:58):
Not hanging?

Speaker 2 (01:55:59):
Well is that Trump saying, uh, all right, all right,
whatever you did, I'm gonna kind of forget it. It
has to be Trump.

Speaker 21 (01:56:09):
I hope that that that and Martin or Cat Bettel
go ahead and prosecute him for treason because that and
they admit, I mean, Bob Woodward wrote that in his book, right,
but they both admitted it actually happened, Pelosi and Billie,
and so having admitted that they engaged in treason, how
hard is that to prove?

Speaker 2 (01:56:27):
Right? It's easy? Yeah, even I know that. Okay, So
that that's amazing, and he's going to get away with it,
isn't he?

Speaker 4 (01:56:36):
Yeah, you're gonna get away with it.

Speaker 2 (01:56:37):
Wow? And he's star.

Speaker 4 (01:56:39):
That'll teach him a lesson, man.

Speaker 2 (01:56:42):
And what do you think about? Uh last thing, Komi?
And is his eight six uh forty seven message from
the beach?

Speaker 4 (01:56:54):
We know what it turned out to be. Interestingly enough, Yeah,
that's the number of data since nine one one on
that day.

Speaker 2 (01:57:02):
Okay, so what is that? Where's the connection?

Speaker 4 (01:57:05):
We don't know. He's going to claim that it had
nothing to do with eighty six forty seven. It had
to do with a memorial to nine to one one, and.

Speaker 2 (01:57:12):
He claims he didn't do it. He claims he found
it somehow.

Speaker 4 (01:57:15):
Yeah, yeah, I'm come on. Yeah, he's the guy who
wouldn't lie to at.

Speaker 2 (01:57:19):
It with you. I mean, he was ahead of the FBI,
for God's sakes.

Speaker 4 (01:57:24):
I don't know what eighty six means.

Speaker 2 (01:57:26):
I'm okay, okay, okay, other than the Dave Wine Dave
Weinebam show, which you are a star, both of you
are stars of and I like it when Patricia is
here to uh be to counter the ridiculous remarks, you say, sir,
so other than than Dave Winebomb Show. Where can people

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find and hire you? Guys? I guess you're kind of
busy right now.

Speaker 4 (01:57:52):
We're kind of busy right now. We're still we're still
we're still practicing law, just on a nationwide basis right
now for J six. But its McCloskey law dot com,
m c c l O s K E y l
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Mark mccoskey on Fire. In fact, I think my radio
station is probably still playing it like I'm there, even
though it's got to be boring since I haven't had
any new content in two months.

Speaker 2 (01:58:24):
Are you sure you're done got any more?

Speaker 11 (01:58:29):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:58:29):
So, what's the difference between a hard blowing hurricane and
a lawyer?

Speaker 1 (01:58:34):
What's that?

Speaker 2 (01:58:36):
There isn't any they're both blowhards. No, they like that
because their lawyers they get it. This is legal, this
is hey, you guys, have a great weekend, and uh,
thanks for being on the show. You're great, both of
you and.

Speaker 4 (01:58:53):
Great weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:58:54):
Yeah you too, Bye bye, thanks God bless Oh they're
so good and we we got a lot of scoops
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Nobody has us on any show. Okay, we're going to
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Speaker 2 (02:05:06):
Okay, my next guest is here, a state representative of
He's he's a Rocky War a platoon leader. He's a lawyer, professor,
philosopher running for Senate. Now, my friend Bill Hardwick, he's
waving right now in case you did, Thank you guys,

(02:05:27):
and we're going to play his speech at the the
House that he did last month, I think it was
or two months ago. Last about a month ago. Uh
and boy did it bring results. Go ahead and hit it.

Speaker 6 (02:05:48):
The distinguished gentleman from Pulaski.

Speaker 11 (02:05:51):
Thank you, mister Speaker, to speak on the bill preceded gentleman,
mister Speaker. Last year we had the amendment three debate
in our districts, and many many of you did and
made our positions where we were and in my district,
I argued vociferously against AMM three. Try to put up signs.
I did town halls, I did debates, and everywhere I went,
I said that my conscience and my beliefs about what

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was right and wrong believes that this should not be
in our constitution. And everywhere I went, I said, even
if it does pass, because it's such a core belief
that I believe in, I'll fight to repeal it. I'll
fight to take out what I think should not be
in the constitution and replace it, which I think you
should have PLD, which is a principle and a value
of life. So I did that to the utmost of

(02:06:33):
my ability, but my district still voted to approve Amendment
three at the end of the day. However, at the
same time, my district voted to reelect me by seventy
one percent. Knowing that that was a central position, and
knowing that even said at many town halls, I'm willing
to lose my seat even if it cost me votes,
in order to fight against them three. So I got elected,

(02:06:54):
and I'm back here now, and if I asked the question,
what do I do? What do I do with this
choice that I'm presented, where I have this contradiction between
what the voter's voted on and what I said that
I would uphold no matter what if I were elected.
And so I'm left to do is do what I
truly believe in. And I want to describe but I
believe in, first of all, as something I believe in

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math and logic. And here's a principle in mathematics and
logic that if A equals B and B equal C,
then A equal C. It's called the transitive property of equality.
It means if one thing's equal to something else, and
that's equal to something else, they're all equal. And why
is that relevant to what we're talking about? Because if
any human life at all is worth protecting, is valuable,

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means something is not just nothing in a nihilistic universe.
If any of our lives matter, then all of our
lives matter, or the other possibility is none of our
lives matter. Logically speaking, there are just two things that
could exist. Either none of our lives are important, none
of our lives worth protecting, or every single life is
worth protecting, and I believe deep down inside to the

(02:08:03):
Chakarin and the disagreement to many of my colleagues and
people are on the state. I believe every single life
is worth protecting, whether you have a disability, whether someone
has down syndrome, no matter what their race is, no
matter whether they're a Republican or Democrat. Every human life,
and yes, I believe is a gift from God. That
and I don't know why tragic things happen and horrible

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things happen, but I know that I believe that life
comes from God and God wants us to live. And
I think that my duty here in this place is
to do every single thing I can to protect life
and uphold life. And I think that the mother is
a human life and the baby is a human life,
and our duty as legislators is to protect both of
them as people who have equal worth and value, just

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like everybody in your state. And so this bill comes
the forest. It's the opportunity to do what I said
I would do and do what I believe in, and
so it's easy for me to vote yes. It's easy
for vote yes for that presept and that principle, and
it's been said, I think it's been a set in
the four You just keep fighting, you keep going for it. Yeah,
if something you truly believe in is that important and
matters that much, as how what we say about all

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human life. There's nothing more basic and important and central
as to whether or not any one of our lives matters.
I think a lot of us are not here, not
here holding our nose voting for it. I think a
lot of us are here for this very reason. It's
why we ran for office, It's why we came to
legislature to uphold this basic principle that every human life

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is important, and that every human life has equal worth
and value onto logically, and that there's nothing there's no
higher good than us protecting that and defending that. And
so I hope everyone will vote for this resolution. I
know I certainly will. Thank you, mister speaker.

Speaker 2 (02:09:48):
Now, I can't tell you without a few words, how
great that speech was, and how that shows who you
are and what you're made of. If you ever have
advertising going into elective office, or you want to teach

(02:10:14):
a class or something like this of potential politicians, that
is a great speech. I mean, that ought to be
sent around the country, because you're saying exactly what I
would want and everyone and then I ascribed to be

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when I was in office too, I understand exactly what
you did. And it's amazing how simple that is. And
yet most people, most politicians, cannot abide by it because
they're swayed by the majority. And you and your case,

(02:11:00):
risked your own seat because you knew that this was
voted in and it was contrary to what what what
you wanted, and you did not know that your constituents
didn't want it either until you challenged them and they

(02:11:21):
stayed with you, didn't they Yeah, I didn't.

Speaker 11 (02:11:25):
I didn't realize that my district voted for Amendment three
until later on they had the data that Amendment three
passed in my district by I think it was a
little over the fifty fifty something like that. It was
a small margin, but it passed. So the argument that
was posed to me was, well, the people people voted
for this. How are you voting against the will of
the people. Yeah, and I And actually I was asked

(02:11:49):
about that last night. I was at event and somebody said, well,
how are you defying the will of the people? And
I said, well, if you if you ask, you know,
if I ast thirty seven thousand people their opinion, I'll
get thirty seven thousand different answers. There are people who
like what I do, sometimes people who don't like what
I do. But I think that what I the way
I should reconcile. That is, I should be honest about
who I am, what I believe in. And I could

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say that the people they and some people maybe didn't
misunderstood the language, may have read it whatever. I don't
know about that. I think that's the case. But I
can tell them exactly what I would do if they
elected me, which is what I will do is I
will try to make Missouri the most pro life state possible,
and I will defend innocent life and unborn life, and
I will also try to defend the life and the

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rights and the health of the mother right. And that's
my position. So if you want somebody to do that,
then you can vote for me. And if you want
somebody who's not going to do that, then then I'm
not your candidate. And people voted for me, and so
I felt like my duty or my obligation was to
be true to the person I said I would be

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when I ran for office. And I think the pitfall
lies in when when a candidate says one thing when
they're on the campaign trail. We're about to go into
a campaign season, so you're gonna hear your candidates. And
if I say, hey, this is what I will do
if you elect me, this is how I'll act, and
this is what I'll stand for, my obligation is to
be true to that and to make sure that I
was consistent and forthright with the voters. And that's also

(02:13:16):
how I sleep all night because when I first got elected,
I first I posted something about January sixth, When I
first got elected, I said I stand behind Senator Holly
challenging the election results. And people sent me hate mail
and cussed me out and send me messages, and I
slowed down post on Facebook because when I first got elected,
I got so many like people cussing me out and

(02:13:38):
threatening me kind of messages. And then I took a
couple of positions on things. I mean, I'm strong on
no COVID vaccine mandate and I'm pretty strong on Second Amendment.
And while I was doing stuff like that, I got
all kinds of messages, I hope your kids die of COVID.
I hope your whole family dies. I hope you know
what it's like to die of COVID. I hope your
kids get shot. I got messages like that, and i'd

(02:13:59):
post something on faceboo book. Then I get private bunch
of private messages and I get comments like, you know,
cussing out, saying profane things, and I kind of realized,
no matter what I do, there's gonna be some people
who are upset with me. Sure, So when I realized that,
when I realized that my job wasn't really to people please,
then I started to sleep well at night. My job

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isn't to make everybody happy. My job is to be
truthful with the voters about where I am.

Speaker 7 (02:14:26):
To listen.

Speaker 11 (02:14:27):
I need to listen, right like I need to listen
to what you have to say, especially like you guys, JP, David, Lisa.
I really care about your point of view, and you
inform me help me stay grounded. So I talk to
you and go, Okay, what's your point of view? What
do you think about that? And we could have that dialogue.
That's important. So I need to listen. But I need
to stand up for what I think is right and
not be focused on just try and make everybody happy.

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So if I'm true to my convictions, then in the end,
the long arc of it, then I'll sleep more soundly.
But if I'm constantly going man, somebody on Facebook's mad
at me, well that won't last.

Speaker 2 (02:14:59):
For a good So I suspect that there were people
mann at you.

Speaker 11 (02:15:02):
Yeah, even after that speech, actually after this, Yeah, people
there are some people who read who read suiteted that
and shared it.

Speaker 2 (02:15:08):
Were they were they viciously?

Speaker 11 (02:15:10):
Some people, well, I think most people, especially usually I
find and this sounds weird, people who know me really well.
They know where I'm coming from, they know how I operate.
They they like me, they respect me. That's good. So
they think people get so I think I says something good,
like if you know who I am, they go, okay,
good guy. You know, even if they disagree with me
on abortion or pro life, for example, they go, okay,
but he's he's sincere. He's sincere about that, he passed that.

Speaker 2 (02:15:33):
It's usually when they know that now, they didn't know
that when you were first running.

Speaker 11 (02:15:36):
Yeah, that's right. Is you get to know me, you
go okay, I see where he's coming from. He's doing
he's trying to do a good job. It's usually people
who don't know me at all. They don't know me,
they see it, they get mad, just like you know,
there's there's some people who they read, they'll repost stuff
from on your show because you have an Israel flag here.
Oh sure, right, and so they'll this guy is you know,

(02:15:56):
Palestinian ockey whatever, you know, stuff like that, and it's
hateful Zionis. That's a word that could use a lot.

Speaker 2 (02:16:03):
Yeah, it's a Zionist anyways.

Speaker 11 (02:16:07):
Yeah, yeah, well, now it's a it's a it's a
code anti Semitic term for sure.

Speaker 2 (02:16:10):
Exactly, but yeah, I mean it, it's what we want
to be.

Speaker 7 (02:16:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:16:16):
The first we like Israel. We like the fact that
we have our own darn country. After all that's happened
to us and God gave it to us anyway.

Speaker 11 (02:16:23):
Yeah, that's right. It refers to the Zionis migrations. Yeah,
you know, that's right. So yeah, but it's a it's
a it's a slur now right, Oh yeah, say, but
you're a Zionist. But so the criticism that Israel can
be a country, and Israel is a country just as
much as the United States, as a country. So I
don't and then I'm getting off on Israel. But I
don't understand why it's not acceptable for Israel to be

(02:16:44):
a country. So many people are like, Israel should give
their land up, They're not to be a country. Israel's
a country. The United States is a country. Israel's a country,
United Kingdom is a country. France is a country, Russia's
a country. They have borders. They could defend themselves, right,
that seems pretty straightforward to me, But it's it's the
the unnatural, the illogical hatred for Israel and the Jewish people.

(02:17:07):
I never understood, but it definitely exists. So just me
being on your show, there are people who will who
retweet it and they'll be hateful about that. But they
don't know. They don't know me, they don't know you,
they don't know what they're talking about. They're just they're
just hateful.

Speaker 2 (02:17:19):
Right. Well, but but if I if I say that,
if I say that this proves that there can be
no two states solution, and that and that they're there,
there is no genocide. The populations of Gaza have always increased,
not decreased. Nobody's killing anybody there except now after after

(02:17:42):
Israel was viciously attacked. Yeah, it's it's come to that.
And Israel isn't gonna isn't gonna bend over and and
give up.

Speaker 11 (02:17:52):
No, we should support Israel. We should support Israel, and
they have a right to exist as a nation, and
all the nations around Israel, we've never chewed Egypt's right
to exist as a nation, or Lebanon or Syria. But
are you know, but for whatever reason, they feel like
Israel's illegitimate, should not exist. And and if you so,

(02:18:12):
the moral high ground just comes from what I just
talked about. The moral high ground comes from you can't
hurt me, and I can't hurt you. You're a person,
I'm a person. You've got rights, I've got rights. I
don't think those rights come from government. I think that
our rights come from God. But it's our duty as
people to recognize and respect those rights and their people.
So if you want to have the moral high ground,
it's where you respect other people's rights right and their

(02:18:34):
right to exist.

Speaker 2 (02:18:35):
And so so Jews aren't telling anybody you got to
move out.

Speaker 11 (02:18:38):
Of Israel's not saying Israel's not saying Egypt has to
go away. Syria has to go away, that Jordan has
to go away, Iran has to go away. That's never
been Israel's position. And Benjamin Netanyatu has my it's my
favorite quote on this, one of my favorite quotes. Benjamin,
I think has a lot of good quotes. He said
that if Israel's if all of israel enemies laid down

(02:19:01):
their arms and disarmed, there would be peace in the
Middle East's right. But if Israel laid down its arms,
it would be utterly destroyed. And that and that's actually
the situation in the Middle East.

Speaker 14 (02:19:10):
I think.

Speaker 2 (02:19:11):
Yeah, good, very interesting. All right, So proposition one, let's
talk about that a little bit. Usavado state funding. I
believe it is is has now been killed. Plus a
reset for overtime and vacation time for small businesses. What

(02:19:31):
do you think of that?

Speaker 11 (02:19:32):
So that was one of the things that the Senate
did the previous question PQ to stop the Democrat filbuster
on one was on HR seventy three, which is refering
abortion back to the ballot. The other was on prope
so amendment you see in your ballot, amendment that amends
the Constitution writing I'm actually it's just like I'm just
gesturing Okay, yeah, I'm like I'm imagining. So since I'm

(02:19:54):
not just like I said, you said it there going
like this.

Speaker 2 (02:19:57):
No, I'm like.

Speaker 11 (02:19:58):
Lecturing yeah, like I'm sorry, I'm like riding in the
sand in the air. I'm not writing.

Speaker 2 (02:20:03):
I'm just like what I'm saying. I'm here, I'm seeing
all that and I hear it too.

Speaker 11 (02:20:07):
What I love about your show is I don't know
what we're going to talk about. We don't like prep it.
I just like I'm listening to like eighties rock in
the car or whatever, and then I get out and
I'm like, what do you want to talk about? Okay, sure,
so let's talk about it?

Speaker 2 (02:20:17):
So I prep you do? Yeah you do. I don't.

Speaker 11 (02:20:20):
But your whole life's preparation. Really, So you see on
the ballot amendment with a we're amending the constitution.

Speaker 2 (02:20:27):
A Jewish flag? What the hell's going on with you? Now? Okay, okay,
go ahead, No, no, go back to the flag that's
back up. No, No, I'm all the Jews.

Speaker 11 (02:20:39):
I don't have to. I feel like that as like
a professor has to draw everything and like depict everything,
and I don't need to do that.

Speaker 2 (02:20:44):
I could just.

Speaker 11 (02:20:47):
Run the radio. It's an audio medium, so I just
go ahead and describe it. So if you see amendment
on the constitution, that's your amending the constitution.

Speaker 6 (02:20:55):
On the ballot.

Speaker 11 (02:20:55):
If you see proposition, we're proposing a new statue. So
that's the difference. When you go to the ballot and
you see amendment, Amendment one, amendment to Amendment three, those
are amendments to the Missouri Constitution. When you see proposition
and propositions are lettered on the ballot, proposition A proposition
be proposition C. That means that either the legislature is
referring to the people or there's an insted of petition

(02:21:16):
to propose a statutory change. So Amendment three amended the constitution.
It pit abortion in the Missouri Constitution. Proposition A proposed
a statutory change, and that statutory change raised the minimum
wage ultimately would go to fifteen dollars an hour in Missouri,
and it required I think for every thirty hours work
you had to give your employees one hour of sick leave. Okay,

(02:21:38):
So it's a statute. So the statute can be changed
by the legislature without referring it back to ballot. Because
the legislature can change the statute, and I voted to
for our proposition a change over the sick leave because
there were enough small businesses around here and even like
we're talking to the Senate district in the Senate District
in Pulaski and Wright County, Lebanon and Raala who came over,

(02:22:00):
he said, we don't, we don't. We're not like Walmart
or Boeing. We're like a really small business and we
have a couple of employees. So if if we're gonna
if we're going to abide by this law, which we
want to, I think most small businesses want to comply
with law. If we're going to comply with the law,
we're gonna have to fire some people or we're gonn
to go to business. Because you know, while there are

(02:22:22):
some businesses that they're making they're making in billions and
they're millions and executives are making millions, a lot of
businesses they're just making they're making small margins and and
they're barely able to hire people. So the question was
do we undo the sickly part of it, And to say, hey,
that's up to the business. I think it's a good thing.
If you want to offer sick leave if you can,

(02:22:42):
if you want to compete. But I really kind of
believe in, and this is my free market side. I
believe in, it's a contract between two people.

Speaker 1 (02:22:50):
Right.

Speaker 11 (02:22:50):
You're in the employer, they're the employee. You make a
contract with them if and you trade. What do you trade?
You trade their time, you trade their skills, trade their abilities,
you trade their force multiplication of your business. Usually for
what you have to give them, which is for the
profit you make. You give them money. So you make
a trade as a contract between to a adults. And

(02:23:13):
that's what those terms you should decide. And so there
are some things and this is why it's very interesting
because I'm gonna go back to something else. A couple
of years ago, I was like the Chamber of Commerce
like enemy of the World because I said that the
business shouldn't require a COVID vaccine.

Speaker 2 (02:23:28):
They should or should should not.

Speaker 11 (02:23:30):
I said they shouldn't be able to require a COVID vaccine,
and they said, well, say out a business.

Speaker 2 (02:23:33):
Business.

Speaker 11 (02:23:34):
And I think those things are really different, right, So
I don't think that I should require the business to say,
here's your sick leave, here's the policies. Here's the pay
I think that's different. But if I think it's totally
different than me saying well, if you want to work here,
you have to cut off your finger, totally different, right,
There's different things. So so I think there should be
some boundaries, but I think when it comes to like

(02:23:55):
benefits and stuff like that, we should leave a lot
of that to the small business to figure out what
they want to do. Yeah, and so we had a
requirement on every employer, so like if it's at your firm,
if it's at your restaurant, whatever, it just was prohibited.
So it wasn't good. And so I voted to change that,
to change that sickly.

Speaker 2 (02:24:10):
Part of it. Thank you, and they voted.

Speaker 11 (02:24:13):
Uh yeah, So what happened was the house voted on it.

Speaker 2 (02:24:15):
Yeah. It was what my wife had this last week
and she she talked about it out of here.

Speaker 5 (02:24:21):
Oh yeah, a review of some of your legislation passed.

Speaker 2 (02:24:24):
Before I said, we got to get that guy out
out here again.

Speaker 11 (02:24:30):
This was legislation was big. We had a huge this
legislative session, big controversial issues.

Speaker 2 (02:24:36):
A lot of uh complaints about that one too.

Speaker 11 (02:24:40):
Yeah, that was one of the things they said you're
undoing the will of the people. It went, it went
to the House, well, yeah, because it was voted on
in November, and then the Senate did They did it
first time in six years. They did a motion to
previous question in the filibuster, and they did it for abortion,
and they did it for a prope So they peak
previous question into philbusters. So the Senate you could talk

(02:25:01):
as long. So the Senate, you could talk as long
as you want about whatever you want. And floor time
is the precious commodity because remember there's only so many
days in the session, and so there's so many bills
that want to come up. So the more you talk
on the floor, the more bills die in the Senate.
And a center could hold the floor as much as possible,
really and so yeah, and so when then they could fell,
they could talk. They can read a book, I could
read the Bible, I could or read a movie script,

(02:25:23):
I could whatever. And I and I'm just slaughtering, and
I'm slaughtering to use violent terms, but bills are just dying,
right yeah. So but the only way to stop it
is by a motion for previous question in debate. And
it's very rare, but This is one of the reasons
why i'll i'll talk about Bill Igel. There were a
lot of lobbyist and special winchers too, had some issues
who didn't like Billigel because he would start to stop legislation.

(02:25:44):
There'd be a big bill, one hundred page bill to
undred page bill, and he would read and he'd fill
a buster and then these bills that there's money associated
with would die. And so a lot of lobbyists and
specialist has had it out for Billiegel. Right, But I
think that bill Igel did do a lot of good
because if there's a two hundred page bill that nobody's.

Speaker 2 (02:26:03):
Read, oh, they're just going to vote on it.

Speaker 11 (02:26:05):
Yeah, maybe maybe it should happened in history. Yeah, so
maybe it shouldn't pass. So if there's a if there's
an onymous bill like that two hundred pages, maybe we
should say anyway, I digress.

Speaker 5 (02:26:14):
But I have one quick question about proper Excuse me, So,
what happens to the sickly that is occurring between now
and August twenty eighth, which is the actual repeal date.

Speaker 11 (02:26:28):
Yeah, I don't are they still getting that? I don't
think there is an emergency clause that makes it retroactive.

Speaker 2 (02:26:32):
I don't.

Speaker 11 (02:26:33):
I don't remember that. I can't say that.

Speaker 5 (02:26:34):
Sure, I'm continuing to do the accruals on my employees.

Speaker 11 (02:26:37):
Yes, I think we voted on it, but I don't
remember if we pass emergency clause with it that made
it go in effect immediately. But if there's not an
emergency clause, then in the meantime it won't be retroactive.
You'll be on the hook for the interim sick leave.

Speaker 5 (02:26:49):
Okay, Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

Speaker 2 (02:26:52):
Okay, but I don't remember that.

Speaker 11 (02:26:53):
I don't remember if we did.

Speaker 7 (02:26:54):
Well, we've covered.

Speaker 2 (02:26:55):
Now, we've cover. It's been all I mean, this has
been amazing. I mean ten twenty seven already. Yeah, I
mean where did the time go?

Speaker 11 (02:27:04):
Well, I talk a lot.

Speaker 2 (02:27:07):
You're a politician, Okay, you can't be a politician or
not talk.

Speaker 11 (02:27:10):
Ask me anything you want about anything. Asked me. Actually,
Babbitt's parents, okay, talking about January sixth.

Speaker 2 (02:27:16):
Awarded five million dollars for her murder. Yeah, by that,
by the head of the DC Police, Michael Byrd. Uh
and so, uh, what do you think of that?

Speaker 11 (02:27:29):
I think that five million dollars doesn't cover what happened. Agree,
I think that we were talking a little about January sixth,
So they say police officers were murdered on January sixth.
Police officers were not murdered. That's one of those things
that became like a zeitgist of me, and the media
kept repeating it. People called it, they said, a police officer,
You're okay, a police officer being murdered. No police officers
got murdered. One person got shot and killed, and it

(02:27:51):
was Ashley Babbitt.

Speaker 2 (02:27:52):
That's right, and she was unarmed, and and the FBI
testified to the fact that there were no guns there
found by by except for the ones the police had.

Speaker 11 (02:28:02):
Now I feel like I have to give a thorough answer,
because we always do. I mean, if you shattered windows,
if you've vandalized, but that's not the but a proportional
crime even if that is not, you know, waiting trial
for years. January sixth was four years ago, So waiting
and waiting and trial, waiting in prison for four years,
that's not proportional for that, for which should be a
fine or should be right something like that.

Speaker 2 (02:28:23):
So well, we broke the one five thing when I
had just minutes ago with with the McCluskey's McCluskey, Mark McCluskey,
his wife was there. But he's representing the pardoned uh
won six ers, and he's also representing the people that

(02:28:46):
were called on. Who's that? Oh hey, hi there, welcome
to the Dave Weinbaum Show. What can I do for you? Oh? Wait,
you know what? Uh so you're gonna be yeah, oh
there you are. Okay, listen, uh just listen for a
little bit. I've got some undue finished uh finished unfinished

(02:29:07):
business with this gentleman here. And so yeah, you you
actually surprised me and you're right on time. So don't
worry about it. I will not find you at all. Okay. Anyways,
so what was I saying? Uh? Oh, we broke and
we broke. They broke the thing. And I've also talked

(02:29:28):
to another person that's important of this, Jeff Zinc, and
I am also friends with his son, Ryan Zinc. Ryan
Zinc did not take the pardon now that then when
I got to that point, they said, there are certain
things we can't talk about, and that's one of them
because there's some things that could go on other than

(02:29:49):
going back to regular court. Okay, so uh, with the
refusal to do that, then then you got a judge.
Does that ring a bell? You know he is right?
I know him, but you've heard of him? Yes, yeah,
because he's one of the judges that tried to tell
Trump that he couldn't send a murdering illegal back to

(02:30:16):
his home country. He took on the presidential I didn't know.
I didn't see him on the ball and the president.
So apparently he beat Donald Trump, who had seventy seven
million votes, and he thinks he runs the country now
when there's a lot of these judges doing that, right,
So now they're all commenting on Ashley Babbitt calling her

(02:30:39):
a terror. She's a fourteen year veteran of the Air Force,
and she weighs one hundred and eighteen pounds, as what
McClusky said, and she was unarmed.

Speaker 11 (02:30:53):
Right and shut unarmed person. So that's probably I mean,
that probably doesn't cover what it costs for her life
five million dollars, so I tend to think. But I'm
glad that their family or family got something.

Speaker 2 (02:31:04):
All right. So let me let me just say this
because I got so much to talk about. If you
want to hang out for mister uh Lockwood here, you're
more than welcome.

Speaker 11 (02:31:15):
You don't hang out.

Speaker 2 (02:31:15):
Oh good, I love that. All right. Okay, well my
next guest, now who is reactivated?

Speaker 7 (02:31:23):
What?

Speaker 2 (02:31:24):
No Trump hat? What are you doing? That's traitorous.

Speaker 13 (02:31:27):
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 (02:31:29):
I'm not wearing mine because you know why. But I
have it in front of me. See, oh all right.
And the reason I don't wear it is it is
that I get all dark inside and I can't you know,
people can't see my beautiful face. So yes, I know
you have a doll. Okay, this is we're going. We're

(02:31:49):
going from a political genius to kindergarten show. Show your
little doll again. Okay. One thing, this is lucky, all right,
this is this is this man is an author. Uh
and do you have his book? All right? Put his
book up. He's an expert on space, aliens and time travel.

(02:32:14):
And he's also he's also well there's a there's a
lot of things he is and he's going to tell
you about him.

Speaker 7 (02:32:21):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:32:22):
But please welcome Richard Lockwood.

Speaker 11 (02:32:29):
Can I just say I'm so excited I stayed for space,
aliens and time travel. I'm psyched.

Speaker 2 (02:32:33):
Have you ever seen have you ever seen have you
ever seen a a a space ship?

Speaker 11 (02:32:42):
I don't think we I don't think we could ask
those kind of questions on air. Do you want to
get he played, I don't. Do you want to talk
about it?

Speaker 2 (02:32:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (02:32:49):
I don't know. I'm gonna I'm gonna reserve comment till
I hear what your expert guests has to say. Stick,
I'll stick around.

Speaker 2 (02:32:55):
Well I have Wait a minute, I've seen it.

Speaker 11 (02:32:58):
Uh a UFO a fo a UFO fo?

Speaker 2 (02:33:04):
Are you Foh? Yeah, Well why don't you say that?
My god? I thought you said, are you a faue?

Speaker 1 (02:33:12):
No?

Speaker 2 (02:33:12):
Why would I say that? I don't know.

Speaker 11 (02:33:13):
That doesn't make it, he said, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:33:14):
I mean I thought I was your friend. Well, you're saying,
are ufo JP's JP's laughing the f out? What are
you laughing? At Ron Lockwood? I'm asking this? Oh my god,
it went off? What happened? My god? Anyways, No, No,
I'm not a foe, but I have seen a UFO. Okay,

(02:33:40):
thank you for clarifying, Thank you for clarifying. Now wait
a minute, I gotta now, I gotta describe the damn
thing because he doesn't believe me. He thinks I'm a foe. First,
and then you want some if I saw a UFO. Okay,
I've seen the UFO. I admit that, all right.

Speaker 7 (02:33:56):
It was.

Speaker 2 (02:33:56):
It was on like nineteen eighty one, eighty two summer.
It was broad daylight, about one o'clock in the afternoon.
I was walking into my then house and I felt
I felt something over me and I turned around and
one hundred yards away I'm estimating now, and maybe one

(02:34:17):
hundred yards up there's this huge silver ship above me,
a UFO. Yes, and it was. It was just saying,
it was just sitting there. It wasn't. There was no noise,
there was no movement and uh and what was that?

Speaker 7 (02:34:41):
Oh my god?

Speaker 2 (02:34:42):
Anyway, anyways, it was it was. Uh. And I'm looking
around for people that might witness this with me, right,
because it wasn't a dream. So I just stoodn't looked
at it for the next about a minute and a
half two minutes, and I I guess I got enough
of information from looking at me and like lickety splat,

(02:35:06):
it was out of there, out of there. Okay, that's
my story and I'm sticking to it.

Speaker 13 (02:35:14):
Very good, very all right. So, last time I was
on Dave, Yes, we were we were talking about anomalies
on Mars. Yes, and since then, I've sent a couple
of other pictures of anomalies to you JP. Did you
happen to see those? Come across?

Speaker 2 (02:35:36):
He's gonna look for all right.

Speaker 13 (02:35:40):
One is a pyramid, an actual pyramid structure on the Mars.

Speaker 2 (02:35:46):
So you're saying, you're saying, uh, you have evidence that
possibly other uh other than humans have been on Mars. Yeah,
there is right there. Okay, share with the screen. All right?
Did you know this? Do you have any idea about this?

Speaker 11 (02:36:09):
I'm talking to you, Bill, I am listening and absorbing
right now. Okay, I can't I can't see the things yet.

Speaker 6 (02:36:16):
Well, okay, we'll turn around.

Speaker 2 (02:36:17):
Okay, all right, he's gonna see it. This is on Mars.

Speaker 13 (02:36:22):
Now, that's actually on Mars.

Speaker 2 (02:36:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (02:36:27):
Not only not only that, but they've taken a picture
of what looks appears to be a doorway in the
side of a cliff and I sent that along as well.
And the craziest thing is the hovering spoon. A picture

(02:36:48):
of spoon taken by the rover, the Mars rover that
appears to be hovering and you see the shadow underneath it,
and it's a spoon like structure.

Speaker 10 (02:37:00):
Uh.

Speaker 13 (02:37:02):
Hard to believe do you have that?

Speaker 4 (02:37:04):
I guess this next one maybe?

Speaker 13 (02:37:07):
Yeah, there it is right there, it's in the circle.

Speaker 2 (02:37:10):
Yeah. And if you could see what is holding it
up because it's got a huh, they don't know, they
don't even know. Well, is it stuck into the ground
behind it? That might be? Is that a big spoon
or a little spoon that they have any idea what
size it is?

Speaker 13 (02:37:32):
From what I understand, it's it's as big as a
large kitchen label. Okay, like a yeah, something you would
stir steddy sauce with it.

Speaker 2 (02:37:44):
Okay, Well you've got you've got a you've got a
major politician business person that wants to not only go
to Mars, but he wants to settle Mars elon Musk, right.

Speaker 13 (02:37:57):
And I believe that one of the reason since he
wants to go there, that he suspects that there is
the remnants of technology still up on Mars and he
wants to get his hands on it.

Speaker 2 (02:38:09):
And how does he know this? Well, and he's got
to have some information, right.

Speaker 13 (02:38:15):
He does, he does. He's he's very close to Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (02:38:20):
Yeah. And what Trump got to do with this?

Speaker 13 (02:38:25):
Oh, Trump knows all about it?

Speaker 2 (02:38:28):
What about what about his uh, uncle John. Let's talk
about him at M I T Uncle John. And what
did what didn uncle job? Uncle John? Uh? What did
he get from uh Tesla when he died?

Speaker 13 (02:38:45):
When he got everything from Tesla? All of that is
the actual name Tesla. Okay. So John Trump was given
all of the Tesla files, all of the projects, all
of his notes, all of his models, and and of

(02:39:05):
course we've talked about this that in this trove of
Tesla material was a time machine also a weapon.

Speaker 2 (02:39:19):
It was like a.

Speaker 13 (02:39:22):
Laser type weapon, laser. Okay, that was years and years
ahead of its time. As a matter of fact, I
think that's the groundwork of the Golden Dome that's that's
being proposed right now by Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (02:39:38):
Really you're talking about the dome that's gonna knock down
nuclear weapons. Right, that's right, right?

Speaker 13 (02:39:45):
But anyway, that that that was last last week's conversation.
This week, I want to very often too something else.

Speaker 2 (02:39:52):
Okay, let's do it.

Speaker 3 (02:39:54):
Uh.

Speaker 13 (02:39:56):
Why the topic I'd like to bring up is why
the Civil War never actually ended?

Speaker 2 (02:40:04):
The Civil War, our civil war.

Speaker 13 (02:40:06):
Our civil war. You know, the Democrats started the Civil War, okay,
because they wanted to take the United States in a
different direction than that was laid.

Speaker 2 (02:40:16):
They wanted to leave the Union, right, they wanted their
own country. Right.

Speaker 13 (02:40:21):
Well, the Northern Republicans called them out on their crimes
against humanity and how their policies didn't fit the Constitution.
So the Democrats didn't want to change, So there was
They responded with hatred, violence, bloodshed. Sound familiar, Yeah, sounds

(02:40:45):
like about today. So they called themselves the Confederate States
of America broke away from the United States. I believe
it was eighteen sixty one, Okay, in April, yeah, of
that month, and they fired on Ford something sumter sumter

(02:41:06):
in South Carolina. And at the end of the war,
which took over seven hundred and fifty thousand American lives,
so huge, the Democrats were soundly defeated. They had no
choice but to surrender.

Speaker 2 (02:41:24):
But you're saying that, you're saying they've resurrected themselves fairly
quickly from that civil war that really hasn't ended. Is
that correight?

Speaker 13 (02:41:32):
Well, I don't believe that that they ever gave up
their cause, even though they were beaten the submission. You know,
many historians agree with me that they're continuing their hostilities
towards the Union to this very day.

Speaker 2 (02:41:50):
Now the you're saying, the present day Democrat Party is
doing the same things that the Confederates were doing during
the Civil Wars, right, yes, sir, you're great with that. Bill.

Speaker 11 (02:42:07):
I think that go ahead, billion that I finish his thought.

Speaker 2 (02:42:10):
He's now do you know what he does. He's a
state representative.

Speaker 13 (02:42:15):
Well that's okay, and he he's good.

Speaker 2 (02:42:19):
No, he's good. He got he got the state to
revote a.

Speaker 11 (02:42:25):
Uh yeah, I mean it was a team effort though
a lot of people do.

Speaker 2 (02:42:29):
Yeah, I know, but but this guy does a he
does a great job. And he got him to turn
around two things that were very unpopular with a lot
of people. And also that in that was that didn't
you kill the uh the not killed, but killed the
way that they can contribute money from outside. Yeah, but

(02:42:50):
for that no foreign and that that also got solved
that that which I think is critical too. So he's good,
he's talented. He's going to be president someday. He told
me that go ahead.

Speaker 13 (02:43:02):
After the Civil War, the Democratic Party continued to resist
the Union, of course, and they formed the ku Klux
Klan at the time, and that was meant to terrorize
the newly freed American African Americans who who were Republican.

Speaker 2 (02:43:22):
So they were.

Speaker 13 (02:43:23):
They were dressed in the hats, coned hats and bed
sheets and burned the houses of these black Republicans, raped
their women, hung their sons. Oh, by the way, does
that remind you of anything in our day and age? Well,
it should, because it reminds me of the evil tactics

(02:43:43):
used by Islamic extremists.

Speaker 2 (02:43:46):
Sure, you know so.

Speaker 13 (02:43:50):
Anyway, the Democrats back then and into the nineteen hundreds
believed in segregation. They opposed any civil rights ledge. They
voted against anti lynching bills. They were they were pro
abortion to keep the black population from growing too large. Yeah,

(02:44:11):
they hated President Kennedy's proposed civil rights legislation. That's why
when Kennedy went to Dallas in sixty three, Democratic operatives
in the CIA assassinated him.

Speaker 2 (02:44:23):
Okay, do you know who? Do you know who they were?
I had a galon here like two weeks ago, three
weeks ago. Who was Oswalt's Harvey Oswald's girlfriend.

Speaker 13 (02:44:37):
Yeah, you told me about that?

Speaker 2 (02:44:38):
Yeah, and uh, I could tell it was being interrupted
and she knew exactly what it was that somebody in
government was shutting down my show and did it three times.
We got we got her kicked off three times. Uh,
and it came back, you know. And then when I

(02:44:59):
called her, she's I'm leaving for Sweden or someplace. It
could have been Hungry or whatever. She says, I'm I'm
leaving for a while. She's eighty two years old, this girl.
And she was Lee Harvey Oswald's girlfriend when he was assassinated. Wow,
And she says, well, she did say, Lee Harvey Holswald

(02:45:22):
had nothing to do with it. He was he was
a plant, and he wasn't a communist. He didn't go
to Russia as a wanting to be a communist kind
of person. He was there, he was there acting as
if he were and then he was going to get
close to Castro and kill him and it didn't work

(02:45:43):
because they had they had a hurricane and that was
that and then they got killed.

Speaker 13 (02:45:51):
But anyway, Yes, still want to destroy the United States
and the Constitution. Yeah, right, they've they've done a great
job of taking over the schools, the media, many Christian churches.

Speaker 2 (02:46:10):
Expectancy has gone way down. Uh. And our schools are
the worst in the world. And this is under democratic leadership.
Am I wrong? Am I wrong?

Speaker 1 (02:46:23):
Sir?

Speaker 11 (02:46:24):
The Democratic leadership has not done very well for this country,
thank you.

Speaker 13 (02:46:29):
Well, they're waging a war against the police, ice and
all the law enforcement groups who who bring stability to
our country. Yeah, you know, big big slogan, defund the police. Right,
they're in The police are in their way. And they've

(02:46:53):
allied themselves with segments of the population who feel disgruntled, oppressed,
and they embraced all.

Speaker 2 (02:47:01):
Yes, we call them judges in this country. We call
them judges. The judges think they're the president. The judges
are right now. The message that we're getting from the
Democrats who are pissed off about the Supreme Court right
now and our constitution.

Speaker 13 (02:47:24):
Well, they've allied themselves with with anarchists, Marxists, Chinese communists,
radical women's groups, socialists, anti capitalists, BLM, Antifa, hamas okay.

Speaker 2 (02:47:44):
And about twenty million of the people that came across
the border with a helping hand from the Democrats.

Speaker 13 (02:47:55):
Well, they need foot soldiers to destabilize our country and
overthrow it. That's right, can't their own?

Speaker 2 (02:48:03):
And then they need to get the get the votes,
because that's the one thing they're going to get out
of this. That's the other thing you're going to get
out of this is perpetual leadership of the country. Our
am I off here.

Speaker 11 (02:48:16):
I think, I mean, what's your point that that there's
there's an election and they keep continuing to take over
the country no matter what the elections are the results are.
So I mean that seems like the point you're making
no matter.

Speaker 2 (02:48:27):
What, Well, they're going to get bodies in here that
are going to vote for them in in uh, gratitude
for being let into the country.

Speaker 11 (02:48:36):
H Rush Limball used to say that that the the
Republicans is an election, they go, that's what the people wanted.
When the Democrats' election, they go, it seems like an
anomaly to them. They think that the natural order things
should be that they have power.

Speaker 2 (02:48:49):
Well yeah, yeah, So.

Speaker 13 (02:48:51):
The bottom line, we can't let them overtly anti American
party govern our country. You know, the Democratic Party in
the form that it currently takes should should be dissolved.

Speaker 2 (02:49:08):
Well, they're dissolving themselves right now. It seems to me.
I mean, who do they have as a leader. They
don't have a leader right now. Well, AOC might be,
a might be an example. And she's by the way,
she's a good speaker, she's a very good speaker. But
what's coming out of the mouth is is garbage. It

(02:49:29):
makes no sense what she's saying. But she can speak
well and uh and appear to be, you know, mentally
in in uh a student. But but get her down
to the brass facts and it's it's complete lies and
and and doesn't mean anything. It's it's meaningless.

Speaker 13 (02:49:52):
Well, she's a she's a Marxist. Yeah, that's you know,
that's why she hangs out with Sanders.

Speaker 2 (02:50:00):
Well, yeah, Bernie Sangers. Sanders an Oligarth. He talks about
the Oligars all the time. Are we Are you an Oligarth?

Speaker 7 (02:50:10):
No?

Speaker 2 (02:50:10):
I'm not. No, and I don't think I am either. Uh, Richard,
you an Oligarth. Maybe my wife wants to be an Oligarth,
But I don't know.

Speaker 11 (02:50:21):
Those oligarchs are the worst.

Speaker 2 (02:50:24):
I don't know what what is it? Yeah, you're the
professor here? Are you gonna are gonna write? Are you
gonna do this? Only? Like group.

Speaker 11 (02:50:34):
Archie is rule like monarchy, rule by one. Oligarchy's like
there's a group of people and their their circle runs
everything that could be like Cartel's or that could be
like corporation corrupt, that could be like No, it's like
it's just like the people that are the in crowd.
Monarchy's one, you know, democracies everybody the masses. Oligarchy's like

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this group of people and this group of people run everything.
So some people think it's like, you know, maybe it's
like the international banks. It's like corrupt corporations, it's like illuminati.
It's and like Russia. It's like the big companies that
are in like the you know, if there's a mafia government,
it's like the family heads. It's just like this group
of people they're the inner circle and then they run everything.

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That's an oligarchy.

Speaker 2 (02:51:18):
Okay, what's the difference between a a democracy and a republic.

Speaker 11 (02:51:27):
A democracy is you're ruled by many. So demos is
like the people the masses, so ruled by many. You're
ruled by many. Think about that. The majority rules, that's
the that's the rule of democracy, so everybody votes, you
do it. In a republic, republic comes to that word
raised publa kata means thing of the people. So the
people have created this thing sort the constitutional republic. There

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are principles were governed by a constitution and ideals.

Speaker 13 (02:51:53):
So your democracy is a bad thing.

Speaker 2 (02:51:56):
Yeah, because they're still because they can change the constitution
because you're still ruled.

Speaker 1 (02:52:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (02:52:02):
Call it the tyranny of the fifty one. If you've
got a well in fifty one walk to make your
backyard a garbage dump. Guess what, Your backyard's a garbage dump. Okay, yeah,
fifty one. Just the majority of fifty one in a
pure democracy will do that.

Speaker 2 (02:52:24):
Okay.

Speaker 13 (02:52:24):
So that's why we have the electoral college.

Speaker 2 (02:52:29):
By the way.

Speaker 13 (02:52:31):
By the way, yeah, there is a bill that was
called Reynolds versus Sims that was overthrown back in the
early part in the mid part of the nineteen hundreds,
the states used to have like a little federal system
similar similar to what the government the United States has

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in electoral college, and it was overturned Reynolds versus Sims.
That piece of legislation can be overturned. We can take
the power away from the population centers. I don't I
don't know if anybody knows about that, But maybe I.

Speaker 2 (02:53:14):
Don't get right on it because he's you know what,
he's a lawyer.

Speaker 11 (02:53:17):
You know all about that, right, that I prefer if
you don't let me med know that I'm a lawyer.
It's very helpful.

Speaker 2 (02:53:25):
That was That was my telling my joke with the
with with with the McCluskey's. So I made this for you, Okay,
let's hear it.

Speaker 13 (02:53:39):
The my pillow guy is making a new corduroy pillow.

Speaker 2 (02:53:43):
Yeah. It made the headlines, made the headlines. I get it. Yeah,
thank you very much for that. Right. What's the difference
between a heart blowing hurricane and a lawyer? What's the
difference between a heart blowing hurricane and a lawyer? There

(02:54:06):
isn't any They're both blowheards.

Speaker 11 (02:54:10):
Okay, Okay, I got one.

Speaker 2 (02:54:12):
I made that up here. My son made it this
morning ahead.

Speaker 11 (02:54:15):
My son literally made it this joke. He he called
me yesterday, yeah, and he said, Dad, I'm gonna stop
making jokes about the Democrats. And I said, you are,
You're gonna stop making jokes about Democrats. He said, yeah,
I'm gonna quit joking about Democrats. They're really nice people.
They'd give you the shirt off my back.

Speaker 2 (02:54:33):
Joke of the day, Right, you tell your son joke
today right there.

Speaker 11 (02:54:37):
Like you're gonna be all right, son? How old is
he he's fourteen.

Speaker 2 (02:54:41):
Fourteen, smart kid, smart kid. All right, let's see here. So, uh, no,
I got off your pages. You know that O'Keefe. You
know you know O'Keefe is James O'Keefe. He used to
he used to own Project Veritas. Oh, yes, really effective guy.

(02:55:02):
Well they kicked him out of Veritas and he's doing
his own thing. But now he's acquiring the Project Veritas.
In other words, he's going to buy it, probably with
some backers, and he's going to release the Epstein tapes.
Where are those.

Speaker 13 (02:55:22):
You know in that Project Veritas. They actually infiltrate these groups,
they get people in.

Speaker 2 (02:55:30):
Yeah, they got that nailed Pfizer. And we all know
now that these vaccines. There's another guy named doctor McCullough.
He says it's seventy three percent of the people who
have taken the shots and have been autopsied have proven

(02:55:55):
that the shots have made them sick with other things.
All right, heart whatever. Uh and so this thing is
coming coming back too, and we I mean I knew
this back way back when. Uh, Patricia Odin Maxwell, thank

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you Bill for your for your info, and thank you
for upholding Bill Egel. I don't know, was that an upholding.

Speaker 11 (02:56:25):
I just think, you know, and people in the Jeff
City world people were critical of him, but probably stopping
a lot of bills that shouldn't have become wall is
a good thing. There's a lot of bad stuff that
gets hiden innonymous bills and pumping the brakes on that.
That's something I would probably do too, to say, hey,
let's just not pass two hundred page bills at one
hundred miles an hour like this with all this stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:56:44):
Well, how are you gonna how are you gonna regulate that?

Speaker 11 (02:56:47):
Well, I mean, how you're gonna stop it?

Speaker 6 (02:56:48):
Maybe you need uh fhili Wait, this is this is
backwards because I mean US Congress way back in the
day said they needed to pass Obamacare so they could
read it to find.

Speaker 2 (02:56:56):
Out what was in it.

Speaker 6 (02:56:57):
Yeah, right, yeah, I thought that's how government works.

Speaker 11 (02:57:00):
I think it should be a short bill subject, you know.
I think it should be like one simple thing. People
can read, debate it.

Speaker 2 (02:57:07):
Go over it.

Speaker 11 (02:57:08):
But not like we do where it's like it's one
hundred and fifty pages dropped the last minute, nobody's read it.
It's just a bunch of it's special interest stuff. A
lot of that you know, I read in there, Like
some of those bills, it was like everybody's got to
get fingerprinted. That was in one of them that we
caught in the house. It's like, well, if you do this,
you got to get finger printed. And then like at
the bottom I always see and this goes into a
federal database. So it's like a good bill. At the

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bottom there's all stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (02:57:30):
It's exactly masses.

Speaker 11 (02:57:32):
Amounts people's data, and so it's like it's a big bill.
They go, hey, economic development whatever. Then you read down
there and your freedoms are taken away your you know,
there's there's mass whatever, there's there's database, there's data collection.
Start voting on.

Speaker 6 (02:57:46):
It was like Obamacare with all the armed people that
were in there, the armed agents that were part of that.

Speaker 2 (02:57:51):
And then yeah, yeah, no, this is this has been
a great show. Okay, so what do you what do
you think is the most startling thing about out space
travel and space aliens? In one minute?

Speaker 13 (02:58:12):
The most startling thing, Yeah, is my mic muted right now? No, okay, okay,
So the most startling thing is that the government knows
all about this and and keeps it under wraps, and
there there's no disclosure, and and there's.

Speaker 2 (02:58:35):
A lot of areas where the aliens are landing and
doing whatever it is, and people know about them.

Speaker 13 (02:58:45):
Right well from what I've heard.

Speaker 2 (02:58:47):
Yeah, and a lot of it is happening in our area,
which is what is it thirty seven or one thirty seven? Yeah,
the thirty seventh parallel or yeah, very interesting? All right, Well,
guess what it's coming down? Last minute? Anything?

Speaker 11 (02:59:08):
Any go ahead?

Speaker 2 (02:59:09):
He's trying to say, go ahead, what do you want
to say in the last twenty seconds? You got twenty seconds?

Speaker 13 (02:59:14):
The lion item veto is something that we have to
push that omnibus bills like that.

Speaker 2 (02:59:22):
You can you can knock out some of that craft. Yeah, yeah,
all right, Well that's that's a very good, interesting conversation.
And I appreciate you, and I appreciate you sir and
all my other guests. Remember to look back at that
interview with the McCluskey's because that broke. It broke national
news on what the the Jay six ers have gone through.

(02:59:48):
It is remarkable. It's not yet into the other news anyways.
I want to thank everybody here and I'll be back
with another edition, and yeah, happy anniversary at the universary
of the Anniversary toss, Keep walking, keep on

Speaker 7 (03:00:04):
Your toes, and don't stop talking about me.