Dave Weinbaum Show- September 12, 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Not to be no about people got be gency.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
So the Democrats are choosing resistance over safety. After another
deadly weekend of gun violence in Chicago, at least eight
people shot and killed. Fifty eight others were injured. Despite
the carnage's, Democratic leaders in Illinois say they do not
want President Trump to send in the troops for a
DC style takeover. However, the President says he's ready to
go in.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Chicago is a hellhole right now.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
Mind them at Chicago, though, well, we're going in.

Speaker 5 (00:30):
I didn't say when we're going in.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
I would love to have Governor Pritch could call me.
I'd gain respect for him and say we do have
a problem and we'd love you to send in the troops.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
For Chicago's leaders, they are defiant.

Speaker 6 (00:45):
I'm aware that the President of the United States likes
to go on television and beg me to call and
ask him for troops. I find this extraordinarily strange, as
Chicago does not want troops on our streets. I refuse
to play a reality game show with Donald Trump again.

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(01:31):
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(02:00):
Who said this in April, assassination culture is spreading on
the left. The left is being whipped into a violent frenzy.
Any setback, whether losing an election or losing a court case,

(02:21):
justifies a maximumly violent response. End quote. Thirty one year
old Charlie Kirk said that murdered in cold blood two
days ago and what was once called the safest place
in America, Utah, just days ago, Rhina Zaratutska, twenty three,

(02:54):
beautiful Ukrainian woman was stabbed by a criminal let out
to pray by a judge fourteen different times. His own
mom called out this uncontrolled criminal. He is black, I

(03:18):
Reina white. There were black women on that train, but
he chose the pretty twenty three year old white girl
and slashed her throat from the seat he was sitting
in minding her own business. Coincidence maybe, but the Dems

(03:45):
are defending this as if this fourteen time convicted criminal
was justified for being turned out to hunt people he
chose to kill. As members of Congress screamed no for

(04:05):
a moment of silence for Charlie, his wife, Erica, and
their two babies, one of the dumb shouted, you all
call for this to happen. The best response was this,
Charlie's children will be raised with stories instead of memories,

(04:31):
photographs instead of laughter, and silence where their father's voice
should have echoed, Charlie Kirk's life should serve as a
symbolic reminder that compassionate awareness elevates family, love, and country.

(04:56):
That was from Ellenia Trump.

Speaker 8 (04:58):
First, Lady, we do not want or need military occupation
in our city. We do not want or need militarized
immigration enforcement in our city.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Even Trump's harshest critic, Joe Scarborough, urged Governor Pritsker to
team up with Trump on deploying the National Guard to Chicago.

Speaker 9 (05:19):
I actually think that JB. Prinsker should do something radical.
I think you should pick up the phone, call the president.
Let's partner up. These are the most dangerous parts of
my state. We would love to figure out how to
have a partnership because right now, just hey, nothing to
see here, moving along, no problem here, Hey Donald Trump,

(05:42):
we don't need you. And you know the mayor talking
about we're going to protect people's dignity in our city.

Speaker 7 (05:48):
We'll protect their lives. Jesse.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
I was thinking about how many years we've worked together
and how many Mondays or the day after a holiday
we come back. And this is a story. This one
was a big one over the weekend. Fifty eight injured
and seven kilts.

Speaker 7 (06:03):
Okay, we're here and we're sad, and this I'm gonna
try not to be as funny as we are. Sometimes
we have to have a little humor here, but this
is almost feels like a funeral, except we have somebody
in here that we love and we listen to, and

(06:25):
that that is JJ Bradshaw sitting right across from me.
Let me announce my other guests. Rabbi Moshe will be
calling from Israel. Even his wife Euanite said an amazingly
good thing about about Charlie. Mark Mulcusky is coming out.
At nine p thirty, Chris Adamo called and I didn't

(06:50):
have an opening, but I was gonna squeeze him in somehow,
but then somebody had the cancel. He'll be out at
ten and Jeff is Zinc is on at ten thirty.
I want to thank JP, JP, and Maxwell and my
wife Lisa, who's not here today. She might be here

(07:12):
a little later, I'm sure. And we're gonna do the
best we can to have a good show, but it's
going to be informative. And if you want to call
the show five seven three, five seven eight twenty seven hundred,
because I know in this case you might want to
or you want to.

Speaker 10 (07:32):
Yeah, we're also taking comments on Facebook, ex YouTube and
also on Rumble.

Speaker 7 (07:37):
And we had another death in the Maxwell family, if
you want to talk about Bridget.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (07:44):
So Bridget was a essentially an adopted sister. Helped raise
me when I was younger. She's been living with us
for the last year and a half. She was dealing
with a cancel battle and she ended up moving on
yesterday morning. So but we're going to push forward because
that's what she would want us to do. And let's
face it, we got a lot of stuff that is
going on and we need to keep.

Speaker 7 (08:04):
The fight up. So and and just let me let
me I mentioned Rick Henderson out there in Salem, who
does all the bits in the clips. Uh And and
let me just mention that this is this is a
tough time we're having uh And you know, either we're
going to let this die away having more than more

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than some of the Democrats agree with it, and if
not all of them agreeing with this murder because Charlie
was a different kind of guy. He would outsmart you,
he would outthink you, and still want to be your
friend if you would allow him. And even those who

(08:51):
continued to disagree with him, he was kind to them.
He was kind to them, and you don't get that
very often. It's almost, ah, it's almost like a an angel.
It's like the martyrs that we've known, Moses, Jesus uh

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and and he's going to go down in history. He's
not going to he's not going to fade away. There's
no no fading away for Charlie Kirk that I can see.
He is going to be an emblem, a symbol of
everything that is good in this country. And with that,

(09:35):
let me let me announce my first guest. This man
is fifty three hundred and fifty seven years old.

Speaker 5 (09:43):
Two hundred uh.

Speaker 7 (09:46):
Fifty seven. H Well, you know it's not the best
day in the world to do this, but yes, you
don't want to make a mistake with this man because
he is armed, and he is two hundred and fifty
seven years old. Thank you, you're welcome. You're welcome and
still looking good in the neighborhood. And he is an

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expert on the Constitution first second Amendment, and I think
we need to welcome John Jeffrey Bradshaw JJ, thanks for
coming in.

Speaker 5 (10:25):
Today's going to be a heck of a show.

Speaker 7 (10:26):
Dave.

Speaker 5 (10:27):
I'm doing this without notes, so this is all free form,
right out of my head already. Let's talk about the
early days of this country, and then we'll talk some
about Charlie Kirk. Back when this country was founded, there
was no internet, no telephone, no nothing. Thankfully Gutenberg had
invented the printing press of Germany and that had come

(10:48):
to the States. So printed material was what you had
and face to face discourse. For those of your audience
who haven't read yet, I suggest they read the Federalist papers,
which were significant in the founding of this country. What

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I'm after here is way back when we talked to
each other, we had arguments. We had disagreements. Sometimes we
agreed to disagree, sometimes we did not. But at that time,
there was no instant messaging. There was no instant communication.
Things traveled at a much slower pace. But the man

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in the street who could read, which was about half
of our population at that time, we're reading the federalist
papers and others like them and passing them around and
discussing what our fledgling country should look like. Okay, let's
fast forward to Charlie Kirk. This is a man that

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knew the constitution, knew the history. He would talk with
you and ask you to change his mind.

Speaker 7 (12:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (12:05):
In doing so, he was back to the discourse that
we had when this country was founded. Gedn't choked up. Sorry,
So Charlie was just beginning a tour of college campuses
to talk with folks that disagreed with him and attempted

(12:29):
to change their mind or see if they could change
his mind. This was done with facts. This wasn't done
with name calling, although the other side did quite a
bit of that, calling him a fascist and those of
his ilk fascist. Well, this little group right here is
pretty conservative, so was he, and he was leading the

(12:53):
banner of conservative talk now his living like a see
is this. He had started chapters in high schools and
colleges all over this country, hundreds of them. So the
thoughts that he had and the thrust of his conversations

(13:17):
will live on after him. One of the things that
I read yesterday was this, if you want to kill
an idea, you don't kill the guy that had the idea,
because you will cause him to be a martyrt what
comes to mind immediately nineteen sixty eight, the Lorraine Hotel

(13:41):
in Memphis, Tennessee, Martin Luther King was assassinated.

Speaker 11 (13:46):
At that time, his.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
Movement was rather small, it was rather isolated. Now remember
this was the end of the sixties, so there was
a lot of radicalism going on, and killing him elevated
his mood. Meant beyond even his dreams. It's going to
be Charlie Kirk all over again. So our rip. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (14:15):
You know during the Obama years where a lot of
this kind of hatred for others was noticed and increased
by a lot. There was when there was a guy

(14:38):
that worked for Obama. I've just read this over one
of my columns, but way back in twenty and sixteen,
and one of the people there in that working for
Obama was asked, well, what are you going to do

(14:59):
with all the MAGA people, with all the make America
great people? She said, well, we're going to try to
try to teach them. We will try and teach them. Well,
what happens if they still believe as they believe, we'll
have to eliminate them twenty five million? Okay, that could

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have happened within this or Biden's election, because they were
still then the party in control of the Democrat side.
And here comes Donald Trump being a thorn in that.

(15:46):
He's a thorn in their side, and they tried to
get rid of him, probably about six times, and they
got rid of Charlie Kirk. And I don't think that
it well bode will and I don't think it should
bode well for anybody, whether you agree with with him

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or not. When we start killing each other, pretty soon
the side that is being picked on is going to
wake up, and we're going to wake up. And we
know there's a risk now bigger risk than before. But
some of us go around armed, and some of us

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go around as if we're unafraid, although we are a
little fearful, but we believe we're doing the right things
as God wants them to be.

Speaker 5 (16:48):
You were a member of the Tea Party Movement, Yes,
was I I remember a Lions Club Park meeting where
you were the MC. Yes, and of course that preceded MEGA.
That's the roots of MEGA. But you're familiar with the
words the silent majority that was coined in the late

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sixties early seventies and suggested that the majority of people
in our country may have beliefs other than what the
current beliefs are. But we don't say anything about it,
just keep it to ourselves. We go along and live
our lives, and all we ask for is to be
left alone. We have left us in this country, a

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lot of them at this point, who think that it's
okay to kill us, who think that it's okay to
silence us by any means necessary. Okay, if you choose
to do that, Okay, understand though, that there's a bunch
of us out here that will hurt you. You come
and stick it in our face, we will hurt you. Well,

(17:57):
we kill you. Maybe maybe not. They call that revolution,
they call that civil war. Do I think we're going
to have one?

Speaker 12 (18:03):
No?

Speaker 5 (18:04):
I think this could be done in a more peaceful fashion.
But I think the leftists, who I think violence is
an okay way to silence your opponents, are going to
come to a bad end. We look at the things
the leftists have been done to the innocent. It's possible
that the folks on the right are going to do

(18:26):
that to the leftists. It is possible. Right, Let's talk
about the wound for a minute. I'm a shooter. I
hang out with shooters. We all talk to each other,
and that the still of that video hadn't been out
more than a couple of minutes, and we're talking to
each other, and all of us said, as fatal wound,

(18:49):
you hit that kartid, there is nothing that can be
done to save this man. And sure enough they took
him to the hospital. He passed. What he started, though,
is going to become so big the leftists will not
be able to silence it. It will become so big

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that they will run in fear from it because of
the hundreds and thousands of followers of what this man taught.
So I think God welcome him.

Speaker 7 (19:24):
I think so too, And I think, uh, he'll He'll
be with us forever, dead or alive. We're we're going
to be uh honoring Charlie for till the end of earth. Yea,
and and and and God will like that, and God

(19:46):
will take care of Charlie. I believe that he's probably
up there right now talking to people who may disagree
with him them, convincing them with his knowledge and with
his love of God.

Speaker 5 (20:07):
Can we talk about the other side of this?

Speaker 7 (20:10):
Sure, you can talk about whatever you want to.

Speaker 5 (20:12):
Carolyn Levitt, Yeah, kicked out MSNBC and CNN from the
White House briefing room because of their disrespect for his passing.
Are you aware of that?

Speaker 12 (20:25):
No?

Speaker 5 (20:26):
Wait, say that again. I'm sorry, Carolyn Levitt. Yeah, kicked
MSNBC and CNN out of the White House briefing room
or their disrespect?

Speaker 7 (20:36):
Right?

Speaker 5 (20:38):
Good, she said, c you in thirty days, and maybe
let's talk about some other things.

Speaker 7 (20:44):
Too, because the guy got fired was down out of
I think it was MSNBC for saying it was like deserved.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
Well we have I don't recall the name at this point,
but a student services person in the university fired for
her comments regarding this. So this is very much charged
with emotion on both sides. I actually think the conservative
side is going to come out on top.

Speaker 7 (21:17):
Well, I think you're right. Yes, good morning, Lisa Wainbaum. Yes, yes,
we're glad you're here. Would you do me a favorite? Please? Honey?

Speaker 5 (21:26):
Well, I thank you? Look good?

Speaker 7 (21:28):
Would you hope to do this? I'm thirsty and I
forgot I didn't have time to get thank you.

Speaker 5 (21:32):
Did you end up with a pagel this morning?

Speaker 7 (21:34):
I did? It was very good.

Speaker 5 (21:36):
Yes, And I ended up with a McDonald's burrito this morning.
Now did you how was it? Well, I'm trying to
improve your cash flow. Oh, thank god, thank god for business. Yes,
so yeah. Even Pritzker, now Jamis Pritzker is a multimillionaire,

(21:58):
billionaire whatever. He does not live in the hood, and
he has been trying very hard to not say negative
things about Charlie Kirk. Why because he's got National guards
that's fixing to flood his city. He has really aggravated
Donald Trump, and I think the man is astute enough.

(22:21):
He does not want to add more kindling to that fire.
You think he's letting up. It doesn't sound like that
to me. Now, I haven't not letting up. He is
just quieting down a little bit. Okay, we're don't poke
the sleeping tiger.

Speaker 7 (22:35):
Oh, he's been poking him real good. He poked the
one sixers too.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
No, this guy is really screwing the pooch on this thing.
Ye every clip you see he is defiant.

Speaker 7 (22:48):
We don't need anymore police.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
Now, Chicago is likely a place for you to get killed.
Is anywhere in this country. You can't go to a restaurants,
you can't walk down the street, you can't drive your
car down Michigan Avenue because someone will hijacket. And JB.
Pritzker is defending that.

Speaker 7 (23:08):
Well, and there's also a drug cartel, and there's there's
trafficking going on of children and women, and he's probably
protecting a lot of money that's going from the cartels
to him to allow this to happen. Indeed, so he's
got a lot of personal personal property that's coming into

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him over these deaths. That means to him black lives
don't matter.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
No lives matter to him.

Speaker 7 (23:44):
Well, yeah, it's Chicago, This is a Chicago way of living.

Speaker 5 (23:49):
But this is any blue city, Baltimore, Portland, Chicago. You
and I both know what the list is that have
been run by liberal Democrats, the crazy liberal Democrats for decades.
And look at the hell holes that they have become.
If you were a businessman, would you want to open

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a business in Chicago or Portland or Baltimore. Hello, I
don't think so very likely. You're going to go to
a red state, maybe Texas, maybe Florida, where business is
welcome and personal liberty is welcome. And you know, I
mean to just take a look at the statistics New

(24:30):
York City, Los Angeles, San Francisco. Business is moving out
of there because of the unfair business climate, because of
the high cost of living, because of the insanity that
the Blue folks have brought. I think back to Charlie Kirk.
He pointed these things out, and he would argue them

(24:52):
in such a way that even if you didn't like
what he had to say, you accepted what he had
to say. Multiply by hundreds, maybe thousands of Charlie Kirk
little organizations, yeah, in high schools and colleges around this country.

(25:12):
I don't think they're going to be able to stop
this movement, David.

Speaker 7 (25:15):
I think it's already started even before Charlie, and Charlie
has a big part he's starting because if you look
at the last election, which he helped Garner with the youth. Yes,
Trump gives him great credit for all the young people
that he was able to convince to come over, but

(25:37):
not only that, all the Blacks and Latinos and the
Asians that came over. Incredible stuff. Incredible change has started already.
And I think it was just as much retribution to
have Charlie out of the way then it was that

(25:59):
they they fear him now he did a lot of
damage to them just by talking. Yeah. Just see, he
wasn't treading anybody. He wasn't doing that. And quite quite frankly,
there's the businesses in Chicago now are all eving, Yeah,
they're all even boeing. For goodness sakes, that's huge.

Speaker 5 (26:20):
We're talking some heavy hitters.

Speaker 7 (26:21):
That's heavy hitters. And you know what. Now the mayor
is Benny Johnson, and he's saying, uh, well, I guess
we're going to have to raise taxes for the rich
of course. Okay, Well that that is a that is
a a thing that's going to happen. And what Chicago's

(26:42):
going to do when everybody leaves all these money makers
in order to have tax you, what are you going
to do? Who are you going to tax? The people
that are destitute. They're going to find They're going to
get the hell out of there too.

Speaker 5 (26:54):
They got nothing to live there for.

Speaker 7 (26:56):
Chicago may not exist in a couple of years.

Speaker 5 (26:59):
I like that. I would like to wander through those empties.

Speaker 7 (27:01):
And I'm from there.

Speaker 5 (27:02):
I know that scares me to death.

Speaker 10 (27:06):
Yeah right, Okay, So just I wanted to make a
quick point, kind of bring this back to kind of
the history that we talked about at first. When Obama ran.
I believe Obama was the person that really began to
sow seeds of discourse everywhere. Oh sure, and remember what
his campaign promise was, I'm going to fundamentally change America.

Speaker 5 (27:28):
He did.

Speaker 10 (27:29):
It was just for the negative, but he was making
it out like it was going to be a positive.
When people like George Floyd and others are martyred, and
I use quotes in this context, they riot, they burn
down cities, more crime happens. When Charlie Kirk is actually martyred.

Speaker 5 (27:50):
We hold vigils, big difference between us and them. We
believe in the rule of law. They do not. Particularly,
I can tell you this though, my little neighborhood out
here east of Rollam. If you decided to hold a riot,

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it would last well long enough for us to get armed. Yep,
So twenty minutes. Maybe if you decide to burn down
one of the houses, we'll put the fire out and
then we'll put you out. That's vigilantic justice, I recognize that.
But we don't have very good law enforcement out there,
so you've got to protect your own that The point

(28:32):
about that is, though in the mind of the radical
liberal it's okay to kill, in the mind of the
conservative it's really not okay. We do believe in the
rule of law, but when you have stretched the rule
of law with law fair well beyond its intended purpose,
we go to the next step, whatever that step might. Right,

(28:56):
all right, let me tell you a little about Second Amendment.
Are you ready please? Just came from a week in
Iberia hosting the largest three gun match in the state
of Missouri. We were talking about guns, weapons. This was
one hundred and thirty two shooters competitors, including twenty two juniors,

(29:20):
all armed, every single one of them. Did we have
any killings? No. Did we have discussions, yes, did we
have arguments No. People treated each other with respect and dignity. Why,
because we're all equally armed and that tends to make

(29:40):
you a respectful, polite person. Not on account of fear,
it's just on account of respect. Had the best armed
time of my life up there. That was so much fun,
and came back exhausted. When you live on five hours
sleep a night and way too much alcohol, it's not good.

Speaker 7 (30:01):
He told me the story that I don't think you
want to go.

Speaker 5 (30:03):
Through that we won't go there. Yeah, it was a
good time. And it says that the Second Amendment is
very much alive in our country, at least in pockets.
And you will not find a more responsible, law abiding
group of people anywhere, not a criminal among them. We
would throw the criminal out if we realized that there

(30:26):
was in our mints. Get out, don't come back. If
you come back, bad things will happen to you. To
go away. Yeah, the second is still alive, and this
show and Charlie Kirk keeps the first alive. So it's
all I had to say about that. All Right, it
was good. I'll do it again next year if I

(30:48):
can still draw a ragged breath.

Speaker 7 (30:51):
Well, how many of how many of those people out
there and that gun range openly hate America?

Speaker 5 (30:58):
Not a one? Not a one there's how.

Speaker 7 (31:00):
Many of those in Congress right now who are happen
to be Democrats and a few Rhinos hate America? Oh many, exactly.
They hate America. They want to destroy it and rebuild
it in a into a communist or socialist paradise, which
there is no such thing.

Speaker 5 (31:20):
By the way they want to make it. When Obama
wanted to make it, well, that's what he wanted. There's
an awful lot of us that are not going to
let Yeah.

Speaker 7 (31:27):
And the way to get it was to go through
twenty five million at that point, twenty five million. Now
it's probably up to fifty million people who love America.
You know, yeah, I do know.

Speaker 10 (31:43):
Jp zation some breaking news they have believed the belief
suspect in the Charlie Kirk assassination has been found and
he is in custody and, according to reports, was turned
in by his own father.

Speaker 5 (31:57):
Good.

Speaker 7 (31:57):
I'm glad why turned in by his own five That's
what I'm reading right now. Whow okay, big scoop. Here
on the Dave Weinbaum Show.

Speaker 5 (32:08):
Let's talk for briefly about our new FBI as opposed
to the old FBI. The Obama Biden FBI was as
corrupt at the top as is possible to me. I
think down in the ranks, we still had FBI agents
that intended to do their job as they swore they were.

(32:32):
The old FBI would have probably managed to get this
guy killed, so there wasn't a whole bunch of scandal.
New FBI. Notice how meticulously what you've seen on the
news anyway, how they collected evidence. They collected his forearm, ynt,
they collected his handprint, his shoe size, one bit at

(32:55):
a time. Why so they could make a case against
this guy when they.

Speaker 7 (32:59):
Called, and killing him would would have destroyed that. It's
like the first guy that tried to eliminate Donald Trump, crooks.
What was his name, I believe from he was he
was killed and then uh he was I think he was.
He was burned three day. Yeah, they cremated him, cutting

(33:24):
off all possibilities of getting an investigation to figure out
how this happened.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
Cover up nothing.

Speaker 7 (33:33):
That's a cover up, a murder and a cover up.

Speaker 5 (33:35):
That's what those guys did. I got to tell you
that the new FBI and the new dj will have
none of that. They've got Donald Trump saying you will
follow the rules, you will pursue this within the law.

Speaker 7 (33:50):
Within the law, within the law, using the law, not
what you're going to do to hide this.

Speaker 5 (33:57):
Oh, this will not be lawfair. There will be none
of that mass administration. So they actually caught this guy live. Wow,
he is going to be r reigned. He's going to
go that's amazing, unless he pulls an episto.

Speaker 7 (34:10):
I wonder if his old man got the hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 5 (34:13):
Look good. You know, he's probably down at the casino
right now.

Speaker 7 (34:17):
He's not funny, but you know, well.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
It's kind of funny because liberals ought to be caught.
They ought to be incarcerated. They ought to be tried
by a jury of their peers, convicted and go to prison.
That's the way it's supposed to be. And for years,
for decades in this country, there have been two sets
of law. If you are a liberal and elite, a

(34:40):
rich person, you got to pass. If you're JJ Bradshaw,
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to be outspoken at whatever that risk might be. That's
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Okay, we're back on the air. We're giving a total
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and look who's waiting to see me and you and
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dollars go to benefit IDF widows and their children for housing,
traveling and togetherness. Please welcome. And it's also he's also
an author and the book is named Secrets of the
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you can't hardly see it, but it's going to be
on the show sticker there after this. Please welcome all
the way from Israel, Israel Rabbi Moshe Rothschild and we
have a we have a fellow guest here who wants
to wants to hear you. He listens to you every

(42:23):
week just about and usually you follow him and that's
JJ Bradshaw say hello.

Speaker 15 (42:29):
Gentlemen, Well, good morning, hello JJ.

Speaker 7 (42:32):
Yeah, good morning. Glad to be so after almost Well,
let me let me start with Charlie Kirk because that's
the biggest thing that's going on. And uh, I don't
know if you had any contacts or that, but uh,
your wife put up a notice as how he fervently
celebrated the Jewish Sabbath. Uh, you don't need your wife,

(42:57):
and that was really touching. Uh.

Speaker 15 (43:00):
He actually has a book coming out in December all
about the Jewish Sabbath and really how you know he
is a Christian incorporated into his life.

Speaker 7 (43:11):
Yeah, well that's that's that's something because he is a Christian.
And I always wondered, I always wondered how he held
held the Jews and was he forum against him just
feeling that you should you should go to Christ. You know,
there's some there's some animosity that could happen with that

(43:35):
kind of talk for Jews, you know what's wrong with us?
You know that kind of thing.

Speaker 15 (43:41):
Well, he, I mean he was clearly very very pro Israel,
and he had a lot of like I have a
good friend of mine who was good friends in him.
He's been posting different exchanges that he had with with
Charlie on WhatsApp.

Speaker 7 (44:01):
And this and that. You know.

Speaker 15 (44:04):
So he was very connected to the Jewish community and
to Israel, and he was a great friend of Israel.
And it's not only a great loss for America. Five
people here are really really feeling it is a lot
of interesting.

Speaker 7 (44:19):
So he was somewhat popular, and he is very close
to the Trump family and they believe that he helped
them overcome the election in the twenty twenty, twenty four
and twenty fifteen against the Democrats, that he was the

(44:47):
one that got the youth turned around, and maybe even
some racial distinctions like Blacks and Asians and Mexicans.

Speaker 15 (45:01):
Look, he was relentless. He didn't stop. He was always
speaking to different audiences, black audiences, Hispanics, whites, gays, anyone.
You know, he was willing to talk to anyone, even
though obviously didn't agree with him. But he believed very

(45:21):
strongly in the power of dialogue. You know, he started
off by I think, you know, I'm going to college campuses.
He would just put a sign sit at a table
and right proved me wrong. You know, who was willing
to listen into dialogue?

Speaker 7 (45:37):
So I mean, it's just And he also what the
place is like Oxford and debated. They went everywhere and debating,
debating people that allegedly were brilliant, and he beat them
easily for.

Speaker 15 (45:52):
Somehow without a college degree.

Speaker 7 (45:54):
How smart is was that guy? I mean how smart
was Yeah?

Speaker 15 (46:01):
Yeah, I mean he was. I mean, I mean I
never tested his IQ, but he was. You know, if
you just listen to him, he was clearly, you know,
a very smart guy.

Speaker 5 (46:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (46:13):
And you know the funny part of him. I've seen
him in person. I'd have shaken his hand or not
at a sea pack. Uh. And I don't know whether
I shook his hand or not. I wish I could have,
if I could go back in time. But he was.
He was following me on Twitter. And I found out
my son Aaron called me up when the day he

(46:35):
was shot and says, you know, he followed me. I was.
I wasn't aware of that, but he followed me on
X or Twitter as it was in. Uh.

Speaker 5 (46:45):
And that's pretty interesting.

Speaker 7 (46:47):
I do send him a lot of stuff to repeat
and all that stuff I don't remember him ever doing it,
but okay, whatever.

Speaker 15 (46:55):
Yeah, it's it's it's an incalculable loss because remember he's
only thirty one years old. Yeah, it's not like he's
a seven year old guy who's been pre talking for
fifty years to audiences. He's really just getting his career
and his life started. And who knows where he would
have ended up. Well, they're already I mean they're already

(47:17):
asked if he wanted to run for president.

Speaker 7 (47:19):
Oh, that could have happened, and that would have been
very interesting to see, that, wouldn't it because Trump would
back him probably. I mean, he could have been in
twenty eight election.

Speaker 15 (47:31):
Yeah, you have to be I don't know, you have
to be thirty five or thirty eight.

Speaker 7 (47:35):
Or maybe well he would have been. He would have
been that in the twenty eight that's for sure. He
would have been. Yeah, he'd be almost he'd be thirty nine.

Speaker 15 (47:44):
So well, I guess, you know, we'll never know what
he would have how his career would have progressed, and
what would have happened. But they caught the guy today
who killed him.

Speaker 7 (47:54):
Yes, we just heard that. Do you have any new
news out of the week, Robinson what's that?

Speaker 15 (48:00):
Apparently his father turned him in.

Speaker 7 (48:02):
Yeah, Tyler Robinson. I thinks they're saying the shooter's name
is Tyler Robinson. Thank you, Pat.

Speaker 15 (48:13):
I wonder if his father is going to get one
hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 7 (48:18):
Well, well, you know, that's not that's a that's almost
a Jewish joke, and it's not funny. Not today, Maybe
in a month, maybe in an give it a month.
And you thought of the same thing I thought of.
Did the guy get the money? Did he do it
for the money? You know? I don't know. So anyways, Uh, well,
I'm just happy they got the guy and he's alive.

(48:40):
That's good because the guy on the top of the
thing in Pennsylvania, you know, they they they they killed
him and then they they they burned him up, and
there's no way to get evidence out of that, is there.
Why would you do that? Why would you immediately instead

(49:03):
of arresting the guy? Why did Why did you because
he was you know, maybe he was shooting at them.
I don't know. Maybe there was a good cause to
kill him, but there was no cause to get him
burned up that quickly and destroy all the evidence unless
it was intentional for that, So I don't know. So

(49:23):
after almost let's talk about Israel a little bit. After
almost three years, Israel h bombing a Doha uh and
Israel claims that six were killed. But but somebody is
out there Katari or someplace like that, and these were

(49:45):
supposedly Hamas leaders that were killed, and they're saying this
is not true, it didn't happen. BB insists that it
did happen. So what are your thoughts on this?

Speaker 15 (49:59):
Well, first of all, we didn't This is a mistake
a lot of people are making. We didn't attack Katar.
We didn't attack Doa. We attacked the Kamas leadership. The
same way that when the United States took out Osama
bin Laden, we don't say they attacked Pakistan. They attacked
Osama bin Laden. So it's not just a semantic difference.

(50:21):
You know, Israel's not a warmonger. We didn't attack Katar.
They're not our enemy. But the fact that they're harboring terrorists,
we go after the terrorists wherever they're going to be.
So you know, and you know, when you hear world
leaders from France and condemning our attack on we're not
attacking a sovereign nation. You know, you know, everyone, no

(50:45):
one had No one had a problem. When the United
States went after Osama bin Ladin, who was in a
sovereign nation of Pakistan, no one had a problem with that.
But suddenly, of course there's always a double standard when
it comes to Israel. When we go after sure the
ones who are the masterminds and finance and are behind

(51:06):
October seventh. Okay, the world like you know, these world
leaders in England, they go crazy. But when the United
States goes after Osama bin laden you know, no problem.
No one says a word.

Speaker 7 (51:19):
Well, how many countries, how many countries are currently harboring
anti Semitic, anti Israel terrorists.

Speaker 15 (51:29):
I'm sure there's there's no shortage of them. But the
question isn't why Israel attack cuts are The question is why.

Speaker 7 (51:36):
Okay, yeah that I would agree those Well, okay, why
is car terror harboring terrorists?

Speaker 15 (51:45):
Look, if you're a terrorist, it's a great place to stay.
It's a super wealthy country with super exquisite hotels.

Speaker 7 (51:52):
So where do they come off saying that that that's
a bad thing. Then if these people are are known
Jew haters and killers. See that's where I'm going with
this because you've got a lot of this all over
the world that are harboring terrorists. I mean, from the
river to the sea, has gone all over well, all

(52:15):
the seas, and all the countries, and some of them
have accepted this, including Germany, including including Ireland, and including Spain,
including England. Right.

Speaker 15 (52:28):
I don't know if it's true, but I did read
today that Katar is going to expel the whoever's left
of the Kamas leadership and they're gonna go to either
Turkey or.

Speaker 7 (52:42):
I don't remember the other.

Speaker 15 (52:43):
There were other two other possibilities that they would go to,
maybe in Malaysia. I think it was one possibility, you know.
So that's the question, why does it Why doesn't the
world speak up and say why is Katar harboring the
Hamas leadership? That's the real question.

Speaker 7 (53:03):
No, No, the real question is what No to me,
it's not to me, it's what what are we going
to do about it? When they start killing Jews in
these other countries and they already.

Speaker 15 (53:11):
Have in which countries countries don't have Jews half of them?

Speaker 7 (53:16):
Well, sure, England does, England does, Spain does, every every
country I named has Jews. Australia is a good example.
They're they're they're they're killing and or burning. This this
the businesses of all these Jews, and in Australia where
you lived at for a time, and my concern is,

(53:38):
what are we going to?

Speaker 15 (53:41):
Those are free countries. So if the Jews want to leave,
they can leave. If they stay, they're staying at their
own peril. I would if I personally would not rely
upon those governments. I would get my family out of
there if I were them.

Speaker 7 (53:54):
I'm scared of this right now, I'm in America. I mean,
I don't feel comfortable all the time, right, Yeah, great
friends here like JJ who's always carrying a gun, and
now I take a gun with me too, and probably
you do.

Speaker 15 (54:08):
Too, Yeah, I do, you know, and I understand that.
But you know, in free countries, it's not like I Ran.
The Jews are in I Ran.

Speaker 5 (54:16):
Can't leave.

Speaker 15 (54:17):
They're stuck there. They have no choice. They are not
free to leave. They can't get a plane, taket and leave.
The regime doesn't allow it. But Jews in Australia, the
moment they really feel that their lives are in jeopardy,
they can pick up their family and go. Now, granted,
it's not easy. After you've built a lifetime there and
you've been there for centuries or fifty years, one hundred,

(54:40):
whatever it is, it's not an easy thing to get
up and go. But there's two truth There's two things
we can say about Jewish history that are one hundred
percent true. Number one is that no country that we
were in as lasted forever. We've been thrown out or
we've had to leave every country we've been in in
the last two thousand years. The second truism is that

(55:02):
we're always too late to get out. And that's those
two things that are true of Jewish history. And is
this going to be another example? You know, is this
Are we coming to the end of certain countries being
hospitable to Jews? And are the Jews there too slow
to get out when you have a chance go? You know, Well,

(55:23):
there's some always time it to the last day. That's
what happened in Germany. Jews kept saying it's going to
blow out.

Speaker 7 (55:28):
A lot of them left early, you know, a lot
of them left early.

Speaker 15 (55:31):
Look, my family, thank god left My family left, you know,
and and made it to Cuba and then the United States.
But you know, not everybody's family did. Most people did
in two thirds of European jury was wiped out because
by the time they said, okay, we should leave, there
was no opportunity to leave, right and you know, so

(55:52):
you know it's.

Speaker 7 (55:53):
You even look at cities in the United States where
they're about to a mayor Mandani in New York City. Uh,
and and he wants to socialize. He wants to socialize
everything from grocery stores to all sorts of businesses. And
there's a lot of Jews. I mean, there's a that's

(56:15):
the second most biggest area where Jews are is New York.
Is that correct? A New York in New York. Yeah.
You know.

Speaker 15 (56:24):
The truth is, like it's not just the socialism that
you are afraid of, it's his views about Jews and Israel, yeah,
and uh and foreigners. You know, he's uh, he's a
very dangerous guy because he talks smooth, you know, he's
a he's a handsome guy, you know, and so you
know it's gonna be uh.

Speaker 7 (56:44):
Well, I think if he gets yeah, if he gets elected, Uh,
there's gonna be problems, but it's gonna be the the
stink of of socialism. Uh. To some like us and
and for those who uh, I think this works, it's
going to be a big victory because what do the

(57:05):
Democrats have. They got AOC also a competent speaker, but
but knowing practically nothing about the world. And Mandani they're
going to be running for president and vice president. I
think who else? Who else do they have? Oh god,

(57:30):
I don't think he makes it, even though I wish
I had hair like that. Damn it.

Speaker 15 (57:37):
It's from the biggest state in the Union. Yeah, so
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (57:43):
You've got Germany and France. Speaking of that, they back
still back the two state solution UH in Israel supporting
the UN resolution UH and BB rules out of Palestinian state.
But but the but like I said, the U N
has a resolution. They're going to vote on this.

Speaker 15 (58:03):
What happens then, yep, it's we call that the two
state delusion.

Speaker 7 (58:11):
Right it is? I mean, wait a minute, you got
such a big you have such a big country, you
could fit anybody in, right, How big is your country?

Speaker 15 (58:22):
It's about the size of New Jersey.

Speaker 7 (58:25):
Yeah, yeah, and is it is? It's it's it's uh
which is the only indigenous state, which is the only
indigenous state in the world in.

Speaker 15 (58:37):
History, there's only one Jewish state and that is the
Land of Israel.

Speaker 7 (58:42):
And who who who said that this should be a
Jewish state?

Speaker 15 (58:47):
The Lord Almighty?

Speaker 7 (58:50):
Yeah, so what kind of precedents all these guys stand
on to say they're bigger than God and God can Well,
we'll do it what we want to do.

Speaker 15 (59:01):
Yeah, completely, It's it's not biblical at all, this idea
that we're going to split the land and it's too
small to even split. I mean, it's such an absurdity
that to think that these nations, who like Spain, who's
behind the Spanish Inquisition throwing Jews out the Crusades, they stood,

(59:23):
did nothing during the Holocaust and so on, they're going
to dictate what we should do in our homeland. You
know where they can go and and you know they
have no rights. If they want to give the Balastin
into homeland, give them half of Spain. If they want
to give them France, Paris, they don't need to yeah, Paris, London,

(59:43):
the UK set them to London.

Speaker 7 (59:45):
Scotland, Yeah, Scotland, Land to Scotland don't like Jews either,
you know that Ireland they don't like ws Ireland and
they got they have a big population of of the immigrants,
mostly Muslim.

Speaker 15 (01:00:04):
Although someone who's running that for president is very popular.
Connor McGregor is very pro Israel, and he said that
if he wins, anyone who says anything bad against Israel
will be deported.

Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
That's what he said this week.

Speaker 7 (01:00:18):
As long as he doesn't Israel.

Speaker 15 (01:00:20):
He's Irish, you know, and crossing a friend of mine, Ireland,
he said, you know what, so they don't realize how
many supporters of Israel. Just the guys who are so
vocal are the ones who are anti Israel. But there
are a lot of Irish in supportive Israel.

Speaker 7 (01:00:36):
Okay, do we have any rabbi rants or scoops? What's
going on?

Speaker 15 (01:00:41):
Fresh out?

Speaker 7 (01:00:42):
What's going on Syria? How do we get along with Syria?
The isis run coach.

Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
It's been quiet, you know.

Speaker 15 (01:00:49):
Lebanon this week has been the Lebanese actually took on
the Fezbla government. Yeah, they disarmed them in the southern Lebanon.
That's a that's a productive step forward.

Speaker 7 (01:01:03):
Wow, you know, Okay, Gaza, any news on Gaza, any
news on the the the clusta is being released.

Speaker 15 (01:01:15):
No, no, And I don't think that's in the cards.
To be honest, I don't think there's any more negotiating.

Speaker 7 (01:01:21):
So if there's any if there's no negotiating, Israel is
going to take over Gaza. And and you're saying and
you're saying, the Palestinians will either be moved out of
there and some country is going to take them.

Speaker 15 (01:01:40):
Yeah, Look, we're not in there as a permanent occupying force.
Israel doesn't want to be in that role. We're just
there now as a military occupying force. And when the
war comes to an end, our military will leave and
whatever is going to happen will happen. So it's not
not interesting in that. But well, we are interested in

(01:02:04):
smashing come ons.

Speaker 7 (01:02:05):
Okay, But if you leave it unattended at any time,
it's going to turn back to what it was.

Speaker 15 (01:02:12):
It's not going to be unintended. It was not going
to pull out without some sort of governing body, which
hopefully will be you know, some sort of conglomerate of
the UAE, maybe Egypt, I don't know, but certainly not
Hamas and not the Palace. Citian authority is made that
very clear.

Speaker 7 (01:02:27):
Okay.

Speaker 15 (01:02:28):
So right now we're attacking Gaza City, which is the
last stronghold. We've now controlled out forty percent of the city.

Speaker 7 (01:02:36):
And you know, there's how many cows are left in Gaza?
We know those.

Speaker 15 (01:02:45):
I don't think we know those numbers, you know, I
don't think we know the numbers, but certainly not much
is left of their leadership.

Speaker 7 (01:02:51):
Well that's that's the leadership, that's for sure. And what
is the attitude of the average Gazan person towards Israel.

Speaker 15 (01:03:01):
Real Well, they can't speak freely, they're too afraid of comments.
But I still don't think they are supportive of Israel.
They may not love comments, but they sort of loved
us either.

Speaker 7 (01:03:14):
Yeah, that's for sure, all right. Other than the Dave
Weinbaum show, where can people find and contribute and get
your book Secrets of the Hebrew?

Speaker 15 (01:03:23):
Yeah, there it is on your web on our screen
Secrets of the Heap of Bible dot org, or you
can go to our website is an alliance, you know,
or Facebook dot com forward slash.

Speaker 7 (01:03:36):
I was hoping you would have sent one of those
in retrospect to Charlie Kirk. I think he would have
read that I thought of it. Yeah, well, well I
didn't think of it either, So a lot of people
didn't think of it, and he didn't think they ask
So I don't know if you ever listened to the
show here. So all I've got to do. I'm not

(01:03:58):
going to try to be funny today, but I've got
I've I've got fifty miles to go and twenty five
miles of gas. But with faith in the has Hushim,
I will get there. I will get there. Amen. There
you go. Care for the rabbi. You can open that

(01:04:20):
up and I don't care. It's yours if you want it,
all right, chabatcha long, my friend, how do you need?
Thanks for thanks for her comments and your comments about Charlie,
because I wanted to know, especially how the Jewish community
took this. All right, thank you, my friend. All right,
happy and happy Russia. Shana. There he goes, Oh, okay,

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we're back.

Speaker 4 (01:04:45):
Comment.

Speaker 7 (01:04:46):
Yes, okay, let's do comments. Let's see. Oh the shooter
was only twenty two years old. Well, what a brilliant
guy that that is, What a brilliant move that was.
You know, it's it's funny. It kind of looked old
in those pictures. And I was even wondering if there
might be a mask on this guy, and it's going

(01:05:08):
to be very interesting to see where he learned to
shoot that way. I wonder if his father was a
big shooter. You know, that's going to be very interesting.
Could the father have been conservative and the son have
been been like a kid rebelling or something. I don't know.

(01:05:30):
That's a hell of a revolution. Rico Camino, a good
friend of Rick Henderson. Good morning, Good morning, Rico, looking good, sounding,
good go tea. Patricia Odin Maxwell, I am very sorry
about your loss of bridget Shannon Reid, good morning, looking

(01:05:51):
forward to today's show. Well, thank you, Shannon Reid, appreciate you.
And we got more even Patricia Odin. And President Trump
is going to push the death penalty. They are getting
ready to announce all of this on FOCTX in about
ten minutes. Okay, thank you. Keep us posting.

Speaker 10 (01:06:10):
That was a little while ago, so the chances are
the press conference could be underway.

Speaker 7 (01:06:14):
I'm not okay, Well, keep us posted guys on what's
going on? Uh? And what is that? It was? Okay?
All right, So right now I think we'll take well,
let's do let's do a clipper, Let's do a couple
of the clips. Do the next two. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 23 (01:06:37):
The Democrats keep on saying, well, the homicides are down.
They keep saying, you know, they went from nine hundred
killed to six hundred killed a year. That's like when
your girlfriend says, well, the last guy I was with,
I cheated on him nine times. You I've only cheated on.

Speaker 15 (01:06:52):
You six times.

Speaker 23 (01:06:55):
It doesn't make you feel better. It's still a lot
of dead bodies now. He called in the guard for
the DNC over the summer, Remember, Dana, we were there.

Speaker 21 (01:07:04):
It was safe, it was secure.

Speaker 15 (01:07:06):
They had the guard there. But they won't call the.

Speaker 11 (01:07:08):
Guard in for the south Side.

Speaker 23 (01:07:10):
That's racist. The South side's huge. It's very hard to handle.
I think it's two hundred and thirty four square miles.
It's bigger than Boston, San Francisco, and DC. So it's
kind of like a densely populated flat area with row homes.

Speaker 11 (01:07:24):
It's very very hard to police.

Speaker 23 (01:07:26):
You would know better than anybody, and there's certain neighborhoods
on the South Side where it's more dangerous there than
in Iraq. So why not use the surge. It worked
in Iraq and it should work in Chicago. You put
a lot of boots on the ground and it frees
up locals to do the dirty work and go in
and get the trigger pullers. It's worked in DC, it

(01:07:47):
should be able to work here. It's the Heroin Highway,
they call it, because all the drugs come from Mexico
through the highways right up to the hub in Chicago.
Because it's a great distribution point. You get O'Hare, you
get the lakes, you put them out on the boats.

Speaker 20 (01:08:04):
You got rail.

Speaker 23 (01:08:05):
Going everywhere, you got highways going different arteries throughout the country,
and you distribute it. So the cartels give the drugs
to the black gangs. They distribute it, and they're the
ones killing each other. It's black victims. Ninety percent of
the victims of these homicides are black. So people are
asking questions. Are Chicago politicians getting payoffs five cartels to

(01:08:28):
look the other way on the South side.

Speaker 7 (01:08:31):
Okay, we're back, and we got a phone call from
a gentleman named uh well, Adolf. Hey, Adolf, how are
you doing? Oh? I'm doing pretty good. Good.

Speaker 24 (01:08:40):
Wait wait for a week for Monday, because then I
got my back surgeries again.

Speaker 7 (01:08:46):
Do something well good? It looks pretty good the other day.
So yeah, we're doing we're doing okay, Yeah, okay, we
good news.

Speaker 24 (01:08:54):
They caught they caught the gentlemen that they believe, yeah,
responsible for this.

Speaker 7 (01:08:58):
We just we're just going to for on that we got.
We got a flash from from pastor pat and uh
who else do we somebody somebody mentioned it? Who mentioned
it at first? Mom? Yeah, okay, all right, yeah, great work.

Speaker 25 (01:09:17):
According to the local news or the yeah, Fox news,
and the person's in charge, one of the family members
of the individual turned them in.

Speaker 7 (01:09:27):
The father allegedly both me and the rabbi separately without
him being able to hear me. I said, was that
for the one hundred thousand, and the rabbi said the
same thing. He hadn't heard it. So, yeah, a couple
of Jewish guys. Terrible.

Speaker 24 (01:09:45):
The interesting thing is nobody is saying we need to
get rid of guns from this one.

Speaker 7 (01:09:51):
Uh oh, there will be they have no I've seen
stuff about it posted on walls, and and I think
Elizabeth Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas said that. She said, she said, well,
it's a gun problem. AOC said it's a gun problem.
So there has been out there people who are saying

(01:10:13):
that bs. So what else do you think.

Speaker 26 (01:10:17):
Of Well, the interesting thing is if you go to
the other one, the Charlotte train murder, there was two
people sitting next to on the other side of the.

Speaker 24 (01:10:27):
Car and they never moved a muscle. Yeah, and nobody
is saying we need to take knives away, Well, yeah,
you will kill what a knife? I mean, we shall
all go to these plastic sports and not have knives.

Speaker 7 (01:10:44):
The baby. Well, that's an interesting thing. And I've I've
been wanting to put these clips on and I want
you to hear it because it's about the woman that
we're talking about here, a twenty twenty three year old
woman who was riding the train and she was a

(01:11:05):
She was from Ukraine and she was a refugee from there,
and she was the one that's a beautiful gal, white gal.
And we say that for a reason because, you know,
the funny thing about it, not really funny, but there
were black women in there too. There were black women

(01:11:25):
all over that train. And this guy decided he saw
a pretty white woman and he he and he jumped
up behind her and killed her, stabbed her in the neck.
I don't know how many times, but incredible. Please please
do clip ten and eleven.

Speaker 16 (01:11:49):
Authorities in North Carolina have released surveillance video the unprovoked
murder of a woman on a Charlotte commuter train.

Speaker 15 (01:11:55):
There needs to be change.

Speaker 7 (01:11:57):
We are not.

Speaker 16 (01:11:57):
Showing the attack, but moments after this vis was taken,
twenty three year old Arena Zarutzka took a seat in
front of the men on the right in the red
hoodie and began scrolling on her phone. After a few minutes, POLICEAI,
the man identified as thirty four year old to Carlos Brown,
took out a pocket knife, stood up and stabs Ruska
several times. Passengers rushed to help her, but it was

(01:12:18):
too late.

Speaker 23 (01:12:19):
Var Alarman, as a woman who rides solo, people have
harassed other people.

Speaker 27 (01:12:25):
You couldn't tell that they're probably not mentally well.

Speaker 16 (01:12:28):
Brown was arrested after stepping off the train and faces
first degree murder charges. He has more than a dozen
convictions dating back to twenty fourteen. His own mother says
this tragedy could have been prevented. She says after he
served five years in prison for armed robbery, Brown began
to behave strangely. She says, she got an involuntary commitment
order and he was placed under psychiatric monitoring diagnosed with schizophrenia,

(01:12:52):
but she says he got so aggressive she had to
kick him out of her house. Earlier this year, he
called nine to one one, making what police's crime as
pera annoying claims. A judge ordered a competency evaluation, but
he remained a free man. The case highlighting challenges in
the judicial system when it comes to mental health. A
retired judge, saying resources are spread too thin, asked for Zarutska.

(01:13:14):
Her family says she was a talented young artist would
come to the US to flee the war in her
home country of Ukraine.

Speaker 7 (01:13:21):
Thoughts Adolph, Yep, what do you think.

Speaker 24 (01:13:26):
I think you're dear, absolutely correct. It may be a
mental issue, but you can't just turn them loose.

Speaker 7 (01:13:35):
Well, you know this, this mental issue doesn't doesn't mean
that we're all supposed to be cognizant of that and
risk ourselves every time we go to public transportation or
walk out of our house, walk into an alley, take
out the garbage. No, this is ridiculous. This is ridiculous.

(01:13:59):
And that judge who let her out for fourteen different
times let him out for fourteen different times. He needs
to go to jail and he needs punishment, He needs
to be accountable for this. And you know the Dems
are all all for this, so this is this is all.
We can't keep them in. That's ridiculous, Patricia Oden Maxwell.

(01:14:23):
They are retrieving text messages that Tyler sent to his mom,
his roommate, giving play by play moves as he went along.
So there's a lot of people that knew this. Cash
Mattel is praising President Trump for allowing them to move

(01:14:45):
to move so quickly. They had Tyler nailed in thirty
three hours. Yeah that I thought that was going to
last longer. So that that's a pretty good thing there.
You know.

Speaker 28 (01:14:55):
Any other interesting thing is the thank you pastorin people
is the last time somebody and he was a marine
assistant and holding one of these crazy down he ended
up haul through haul through the course system and jailed
and everything else. Yeah, so nobody wants to check in.

Speaker 7 (01:15:17):
And nobody in that train black or white had anything
bad to say about this kid because he saved their lives,
all right, and he's the one they got into trouble. Unbelievable.
This has got it, This has got a change, I
mean it change. Yeah, all right, my friends.

Speaker 13 (01:15:37):
Appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (01:15:38):
I appreciate your comeback here.

Speaker 7 (01:15:39):
You know, sometimes we risk more in peace than in battle.

Speaker 24 (01:15:47):
Piece is one of the toughest things we can have.

Speaker 7 (01:15:50):
Well, sometimes you have to battle to get the peace
and a good piece. That's what we're talking about. We
talked about that with UH, with the rabbi, and I
think Charlie Kirk and President Trump are well aware of that.
They know this. So yep, all right, thank you, Adolf.
I appreciate you, and Joanne you take care of have

(01:16:10):
a great weekend, have a great one yourself. Thank you,
Bye bye bye. Okay, Well, you know what I've I've
said we couldn't do funny stuff, but I can't hold
on to that. Uh, this will be an honor of Charlie,
and I don't want to make this a funeral here.
I want to have some entertainment that can have maybe

(01:16:30):
people smile a little bit. Charlie was always smiling, if
you noticed, he was always happy looking, smiling. A great
family who's now going to be without him. And you know,
I think those kids, hopefully they've got a great mom
and hopefully we'll we'll have a good life even with

(01:16:55):
just the memories of Charlie and maybe emulate, which hardly
did with his life. Because you know, we're all risking this.
Anyone who talks about it eight off, anybody who calls
we're all like, you know, they know who I am,
and I know I've been monitored and cut down and

(01:17:17):
all that crapp and a lot of people don't like me.
And because of that, and I don't give a damn
quite frankly, because you know I'm saying what I say.
You know I'm going to say what I say because
I know him right most of the time. And if
I'm wrong, I will gladly correct myself. And if I've
heard anybody, I will I will apologize with a falsity.

(01:17:41):
But that rarely happens. I'm usually right about this stuff,
and I'm usually predicting exactly what's going to happen for
the most part in most situations, because I know some
of the people involved, and I talk to these people
that are involved, and I study this stuff. I study
the people on MSNB, on CBS, on CNN, and I

(01:18:03):
study they're what they're trying to sell and what they
are talking about, what they aren't talking about, which is
a hell of a lot Uh, anyways, let's do some
funny stuff after I made everybody pissed off. How about
Paul Simon and Steve Martin and the baby Trump?

Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
One second?

Speaker 7 (01:18:29):
All right, okay, you'll get it pulled up. And uh,
we were supposed to see Joe Severino, who's running for
governor of Illinois, and apparently he's getting law faired. He
had to go meet with lawyers this morning versus dear
doing the show. Wouldn't that be interesting? They're scared to

(01:18:49):
death of this guy for some reason. And Chris Adamo,
another star on the show, who will be on at
ten o'clock today, he got him for me, So here
we go. I think we're close. We're close, We're close,
We're close, We're close. Okay, boy, you got to take

(01:19:10):
a lot of moves to get that one out. Huh,
here we go.

Speaker 11 (01:19:18):
Paul called me.

Speaker 29 (01:19:19):
It was in the evening and he said, see if
I'm so excited, I've just finished a new song and
I just have to tell somebody. And I said, oh great,
what's the title? And he said forty seven Ways to
Leave your Lover? And I said, Paul, what.

Speaker 5 (01:19:34):
If it were fifty?

Speaker 11 (01:19:37):
You know, fifty Ways to leave your lover.

Speaker 29 (01:19:44):
And and there was a long pause and he said
go on, and I said, well, you know, fifty has
a nice ring to it and forty seven sounds a
little awkward. And he said, but you know I've got
forty seven. I can't think of any more. And I said,

(01:20:04):
make a new plan. Stand and he said forty eight.
He said, don't need to be coy Roy, drop off
the key, Lee. He said, okay, fifty great, Hey, thanks,
And I'm sorry if I interrupted anything. I said, don't worry.
I was just you're cooking a chicken. And he said, really,

(01:20:26):
how are you preparing it? And I said, Parsley sage
Rosemary in time and now.

Speaker 7 (01:20:30):
Look it up.

Speaker 5 (01:20:37):
But Americans are not struggling.

Speaker 3 (01:20:39):
You know, this is the worst platform. Who put this
stage up here? This is where the freaking place is
falling down.

Speaker 5 (01:20:47):
I noticed it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
Keeps tilting further left, like too many other things.

Speaker 11 (01:20:55):
But Americans are not struggling.

Speaker 3 (01:20:56):
You know, this is the worst platform at this stage
up and this is where the freaking place is falling down.
I noticed it keeps tilting further left like too many
other things.

Speaker 7 (01:21:14):
Well, I hope you, I hope you enjoyed that you
got to have a laugh or two. You can't go
I can't go through life feeling miserable all the time.
Although I know my wife might contest that sometimes. Uh,
you gotta stay stay with your your sense of humor.
If you've got any sense, you're going to stay with
your sense of humor. And uh, you know, I think

(01:21:38):
that's what kills people. They get so unhappy and they
get so so fed up, and they just stopped doing stuff.
You know. It's that's why I haven't retired. All right,
here's here's a new update. FBI was there at the
scene in sixteen minutes. They are saying this type of

(01:21:59):
police happens when you have the right leader in position.
Oh well, and another one they tracked down a great
video coverage of Tyler on the roof and the route
he took after the shooting. I thought I saw something
on that today from Chris Adamo, thank you again. Pastor

(01:22:22):
pat the uh well, she's the the the now official breaker. Yeah,
she's the official. Uh she's official pastor the Dave winebumb Show.
She might as well be the the kid reporter too,
you know, the kid the woman reporter to the day. Well,
and I can't just say that. But the kid reporter

(01:22:45):
for the Dave Winebumb Show, because she's scooping everyone else
out of this. That's great, Okay, that's going to be
really interesting now. I mean, you know, it's it would
have been so empty if this kid had been killed
and we didn't know what his motives were or why

(01:23:05):
he did it or how he did it. And I
think we're going to have that now. And I wonder
what the hell his father is. You know, he's probably
a college student twenty two years old. I guess he is,
and probably knew a lot of people there who probably
knew him too. And Utah supposedly is a very very

(01:23:28):
peaceful place, and I hear they have great security at
their football games, but this I think they only had
like six cops there for about three thousand people. I mean,
that's this day and age, come on.

Speaker 10 (01:23:43):
Well, and they were firsthand people with accounts on Hannity's show.
That's where I heard the kirk at First Pass was
Handy's show that same day it was broken there, and
there's people that were there that said that there was
very little security and there wasn't even a medical personnel,
and that's why it took so long to get him anywhere,
and they not that it would have mattered. I mean

(01:24:03):
if if if you see the horrific video of the shot,
so much blood is lost in the first two or
three seconds.

Speaker 7 (01:24:10):
Yeah, I don't think there was anything. That's what JJ
was telling us him him an expert shooter, saying there
was there was no way even even with a vest on.
Somebody said he had a vest On bullet proved vest
that's what we've heard. Yeah, yeah, uh And this thing
allegedly was JJ was saying he probably aimed for the

(01:24:31):
middle of his head, uh and got off a little
bit and you know, hit him, but hit him in
the artery, that that would blow it out pretty quickly.
He probably was dead within uh, within twenty minutes of
that happening.

Speaker 10 (01:24:48):
They say, if you bleed out there, it's it's a
minute or two.

Speaker 7 (01:24:51):
Minute or two that's it. Yeah, well, I don't know
so uh. You know, even even even Charlie said, is
that if you stop, if you stop talking, civil wars
take its place. And I wonder if there's you know

(01:25:12):
it is it is interesting now there's still enough people
who who hate so much and do that much damage.
Can they be held to account. Can they be trusted
in this country? They already have pegged us as deplorable, irredeemables,

(01:25:34):
you know, and and that was not us calling them
that they called us that. Remember that deplorable, irredeemable, irredeemable
means that we're not worthy of life. And it seems
like they're acting this out. And let's see if if

(01:25:56):
we can, if we can, if we can convince them
not to and if not, if they keep doing this,
there probably will be a civil war and sad, it's
very sad, you know, so we'll see. I don't know,
I've been talking about this for like decades that it's

(01:26:18):
looking to me like there's no way out of this
unless we fight each other and we eliminate each other
or maybe even split the country somehow and let them
tax themselves. You know, they're doing this a lot. A
lot of the stuff that's going on in these big
cities are because of federal taxpayers like us, Okay, like

(01:26:41):
you and me. We're all paying taxes. And it seems
to me like they're using they're taking taxes to keep
people out of these centers that will treat them, to
keep people off the street these are federal taxes that
you and I are paying for. Uh. And they're paying

(01:27:04):
for people getting no cash, no no cash bail to
get them out on the streets. UH. And some of them,
some of them will just want to live on the streets. Well,
I don't think they should be allowed to live on
the streets, especially if they are they're close to businesses
and things like that. Let them go, let them used

(01:27:27):
to be asylums, let them let them live in the asylums.
You know, they shouldn't be out there just because they
think they got the freedom to lay on somebody's sidewalk
and take dope all day. You know, it's it's it's
it's an infringement on everyone else's right to uh live

(01:27:48):
and enjoy life, or have a business, or have a
business that has the ability to guarantee safety for its employees,
for its owners, for its customer. You know, this is
all important stuff. All right, one more joke and we'll
get around. Let's do Reagan and Carlin and we're going

(01:28:09):
to talk to who we talk Oh, we're talking to
Mark McCluskey. He told me his wife wasn't going to
be there, But we'll see.

Speaker 30 (01:28:20):
You already are the oldest president in history, and some
of your staff say you were tired after your most
recent encounter with mister mondale. I recall yet, that President
Kennedy had to go for days on end with very
little sleep during the Cuba missile crisis.

Speaker 5 (01:28:35):
Is there any doubt.

Speaker 30 (01:28:36):
In your mind that you would be able to function
in such circumstances?

Speaker 12 (01:28:40):
Not at all, mister trud and I, and I want
you to know that also, I will not make age
an issue of this campaign. I am not going to
exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience.

Speaker 31 (01:28:59):
Do you have a try to tell somebody to have
a little bit of dirt on their face. You can
never get them to rub the right spot. Kenny, say
you got a little bit of dirt right here? They
always go where here?

Speaker 7 (01:29:15):
And you just want to slap the bastard. All right? Okay?
Does anybody get pissed off that I had a couple
of funny things on here? Are you? Are? You? Are
you pissed off at that? Okay? Good, because we have
we have our next guy who is funny as hell,

(01:29:35):
by the way, and this gentleman stood up, uh stood
up to a crazed mob of three hundred and fifty lefties,
including Congresswoman Carrie Bush along with his wife Patricia, and

(01:29:56):
stop them with two words private property. Please welcome all
the way from Saint Louis, Missouri, Mark McCluskey. And where
is Patricia?

Speaker 27 (01:30:13):
She is at home today. She is not feeling one
hundred per such genital surgery this week. Oh and is
at home rest?

Speaker 7 (01:30:20):
Okay, well, wish her well. And obviously we have a big,
big newsweek, So let's talk about Charlie Kirk a little
bit because that's in the headlines. By the way, they
captured the offender, twenty two year old kid whose father
turned him in, believe it or not, and seemingly Charlie

(01:30:46):
was a great man, Charlie Kirk from all quarters of
the political and religious spectrum. Your thoughts, well, you know,
only not NYM.

Speaker 27 (01:30:58):
Once he interviewed me, and before he went on there
he was questioning my ethnicity and he says, McCloskey. That's
a Scottish name, right, I said, nowhere Irish. He says,
are you sure? I said, I'm pretty guys turn hurt.
He said, I'm pretty sure you're Scottish. So he was
just he was pulling my chain, as they say. But yeah,
he was undoubtedly a unique human being. I mean, he

(01:31:19):
had an ability to interact with the young kids out there,
and he was Socrates. Right, Why was Socrates forced to
kill himself? Because he stood in the public square and
he asked questions. He didn't lecture people, didn't tell people
what he thought. He said, tell me what you think.
Can explain to me why you're right and I'm wrong.

(01:31:39):
That's exactly Charlie Kirk exactly. Yeah, and did so with
good humor and a smile on his face. And you know,
he's just all around everybody that knew him, well, everybody
that I talked to.

Speaker 4 (01:31:50):
I was on the phone with the Jay Sixer when
he got shot.

Speaker 27 (01:31:53):
And Jay Sixer had a friend that worked for him
said he had just gotten a call saying that that
Charlie Kirk had been shot and he got shot in
the neck and he was dead, And that was instant.
I was on the phone at that time, right, what
had happened? And but I mean it took took the
rest of the world about an hour and a half
to be told that. Well, Trump announced it that he

(01:32:14):
had passed away, But everybody says that they knew him personally,
that he was the most positive, upbeat, always cheerful, god
fearing man. And you know, the proof of how effective
he was at furthering our cause was the fact that
he's now.

Speaker 7 (01:32:31):
Diseased thirty one years old.

Speaker 4 (01:32:35):
And it was eighteen years old.

Speaker 7 (01:32:37):
Eighteen years old, and he started that he didn't graduate college.

Speaker 27 (01:32:41):
Yeah, I didn't graduate. Junior was on TV. I guess
last night. Might have been this morning. No, it was
on Hannity last night, and he was reminding Sean that
he was the first guy to introduce Charlie Kirk the
Fox that Don Junior was supposed to be on Fox
that night and he had some kind of an emergency
or he couldn't make. Hey, I've got this this kid

(01:33:01):
you're gonna like. His name is Charlie Kirk, and uh,
Hennedy says, I can't have some twenty year old kid
I've never heard of on my program and says, well,
put him on.

Speaker 4 (01:33:11):
It'll be okay.

Speaker 7 (01:33:13):
It's sort of like it's sort of like, you know,
meeting a guy at a hotel and uh, and you're
sitting there eating lunch and you don't want to be
bothered and suddenly this guy bothers you and suddenly you're
on his show exactly. We're talking about real happening.

Speaker 4 (01:33:30):
Yeah, well, I'll tell you you know another version of that.

Speaker 7 (01:33:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 27 (01:33:33):
I was out in Columbia having having lunch at an
outdoor cafe I had. I had a deposition up there
that day, and Patty came with me and we're sitting
on the patio having having a pizza, and the guy
comes up and says, Hi, you Mark McCosky, And I said, yeah.
Guy's name turns out to be Dave and he was

(01:33:54):
a chairman of the Jackson County Republican Committee, and he
and we got talking and and at some point he says,
you know, you think you ought to run for a Senate.

Speaker 4 (01:34:03):
I think, holy crap, you know, pardon my language.

Speaker 27 (01:34:05):
Here I am having lunch and I got the head
of the biggest Republican committee of the state suggesting that
I should run for a senate.

Speaker 7 (01:34:12):
So you know those date was his name was Dave.

Speaker 27 (01:34:16):
Yeah, yeah, there you go. I gotta say Winebaum, but
i'd be lying. He's actually the Missouri delegate right now. Okay,
So the next thing I did was I had a relative,
not a relative, a neighbor of mine lives down the street,
who is in the rating cabinet. And so I called
him up and I said, you know, what do you
think about the concept of me running for US Senate?

(01:34:37):
And he said, just go outside, drive some nails through
your feet.

Speaker 4 (01:34:40):
It'll feel better. And I won't take that long.

Speaker 7 (01:34:46):
And here you are now, and here you and are
now talking to to some little schmuck and uh, well,
Rob of Missouri, Okay, an irishman who knows yourself dated
here a big well yeah, and you know what, I
saw you wearing a skirt, so I think you are Scottish. Okay. Anyways, Uh,

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don't tell my wife about that. I'm no never never
how much money.

Speaker 27 (01:35:12):
You got, you know, in all seriousness, though, yeah, you're
a guy that spends a lot of his time out
there in public, talking in front of crowds. You know,
when my wife and I were on the Trump campaign,
we'd go from city to city and we'd get off
the bus and we'd stand out there and we were
doing seven organized rallies a day for hours and in
Pennsylvania and there'd be hundreds and sometimes thousands of people,

(01:35:34):
no security whatsoever. And we drive into these little towns
in Pennsylvania, have the you know, people standing on the
street waving and cheering and waving flags. And you get
off the bus. You have no idea who you're going
to face there, right, But in those days, you know,
campaigning for President Trump never occurred to me that there
was any danger, any risk. These days, it's a it's
a different world. That's it's only been five years ago.

Speaker 7 (01:35:55):
It's a crap shoot. Yeah, you know, and we all give.

Speaker 27 (01:35:59):
The speech down in case Girardo on Tuesday. You know,
am I gonna wear armor?

Speaker 4 (01:36:03):
Yeah? Wouldn't it help? Charlie?

Speaker 7 (01:36:05):
No, no, that I mean, you know something about guns,
and so yeah, I had a guy on JJ Bradshaw
earlier on who was an expert at guns. He says
that he was at a gun tournament. Actually, he says,
all the shooters were there looking at this and saying
it's fatal. There's no way. But it's going to be

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interesting because the guy was only twenty two. Looks like
a pretty difficult shot two hundred.

Speaker 27 (01:36:35):
Yard and mouser, which is, you know, like a World
War two era gun, and he's you know, four hundred
feet away. I mean of course we're old farts, Dave.
I don't know if I could see a person at
four hundred yards well, yeah, but I mean the bottom
line is, I mean, you think of what the size
of a head and neck is, like, you know, four

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hundred feet away, even with a goat, and then you
got account for windage, and you got account.

Speaker 7 (01:37:01):
For wait a minute, that's that's six hundred feet two
hundred yards.

Speaker 4 (01:37:05):
Yeah, six hundred feet.

Speaker 27 (01:37:06):
Yeah, And so the guy's either very good with a
rifle or it was just it was a weird uh uh,
you know, conjuncture of fate that that that had that happen.
I mean, the the video of Charlie when he gets hit,
putting his hand up, he knows he's been hitting the
next way, and there grewsome videos of of just the crowdit.

Speaker 7 (01:37:29):
Aruedly and he bled out within minutes.

Speaker 27 (01:37:33):
Yeah, you get two minutes from that from that crowdit
or your brains.

Speaker 7 (01:37:37):
There's nothing could have There's nothing anybody could have done.

Speaker 27 (01:37:40):
Then he could have been if you were in the
hospital and received that wound, you'd still buy time.

Speaker 7 (01:37:45):
And this kid kid was talking to his friends about it,
and and and and telling them what he was going
to do and some of those people out there were
outright cheering.

Speaker 4 (01:37:55):
Yeah, just cheering.

Speaker 7 (01:37:57):
Oh yeah, whoa how cool.

Speaker 4 (01:38:00):
A lot of people in the mainstream media.

Speaker 7 (01:38:02):
I know, and one of them got fired, Dowd I
believe his name was for CNN or MSNBC, one of those.

Speaker 27 (01:38:11):
And then you've got President Trump, and I you know,
we love President Trump and he loves being out and
being in the public. I mean, he put to dinner
in Manhattan the other night, and then he went to
the Yankees game last night. And you know, I don't
care how careful you are and how much security there is.
The camera angle I saw when he was getting to
his box at the Yankee Stadium. He had a glass
plate in front of him, but we were watching him

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from the side where there was no protection whatsoever. And
he owes it to the American people not to get
himself killed. He needs to be more careful.

Speaker 7 (01:38:40):
He owes it, He owes it to God, and he
owes he owes that to to stay alive, because I
believe God wants him alive. And you know, it's it's
just incredible how the people are are looking at this
as as if it didn't already almost happen to him.

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And you know none of us.

Speaker 4 (01:39:06):
Are there is a hand of God.

Speaker 27 (01:39:09):
You know, you could not come closer to death than that,
and just just turning his head ever so slightly. Just
the why he caught it in the air instead of
in his forehead.

Speaker 7 (01:39:16):
Well, they had to be something there, I mean, something
something made him do that, and it was it was
like an ordainment from God. I mean, this is it's
in the Bible, Leviticus. You read that. And how how
how the guy in in Egypt had his brother anointed

(01:39:43):
by him getting bleeding from from a lamb's ear and
and a lamb's toe, big toe and all that the
right the right ones and and then rubbing the rubbing
into his his brother Aaron, and that's how he anointed him.

(01:40:08):
And you got to have God.

Speaker 4 (01:40:09):
That that wouldn't have happened have been Moses.

Speaker 7 (01:40:12):
Yeah yeah, it was. Yeah. I had an old man's moment.
I'm an old man, you know, not a youngster like you.
Oh yeah yeah. So anyways, the Charlie Kirk thing is this,
this guy is going to be He's They're going to
have churches, schools, universities, cities, highways, They're going to have

(01:40:39):
all sorts of things named for this guy, don't you think.

Speaker 4 (01:40:42):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 27 (01:40:43):
If he had not been killed, if he if he
had managed to stay alive, he would have been president
by the time.

Speaker 7 (01:40:49):
Put that back on, Please from Patricia again. Another update.
Tayler drove his car to the site and then drove
back to Washington County. I guess it was there in Utah.
His dad gave the info to a friend and they

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together went to the authorities. Very interesting. He changed clothing
on the roof. He was not a student there at
the college.

Speaker 27 (01:41:19):
But you know, the interesting thing is if you watch
the video the FBI put out last night, when he's
clambering off the side of the roof and then he
runs a little bit. Yeah I was having a hard
time seeing the rifle, but you can see that it
was wrapped up in a black powel. And then he
stops and starts walking casually, walks through the road. People
are driving by him. And then he gets out on
the road and there's a pedestrian that's walking by him.

(01:41:41):
People are driving by in the road. He steps out
in the middle of the road. Cars are going by
on both sides of him. Here's a guy carrying a rifle.

Speaker 7 (01:41:48):
Yeah, and really like openly you could tell he was
carrying a rifle.

Speaker 27 (01:41:53):
Well, that Mauser. I don't know if you're familiar with Mausers,
but there, like my dad had until the day he died,
his his army rifle from World War Two, which is
a Springfield nineteen oh six Springfield rifle about the same size,
forty inches long. Right, it's a big gun. It's heavy gun,
and that mouser is the same size and weight. It's

(01:42:15):
it's not something you can stick in your in your
in your pocket. It's a big, heavy gun. It also
is a very effective killing weapon because that thirty out
of six cartridge. State's government used it from World War
One up through World War Two and in War before
until it was replaced by the NATO around it's got
twice the energy for example in AR fifty twenty three.

(01:42:39):
It's it's a it's a formidable weapon, and you know
it's it's hard to be shot with that gun and
not die from it.

Speaker 7 (01:42:46):
Well, the interesting thing is they showed him walking towards
towards the schools, towards the event, and he was limping. Yeah,
now was that because do you break these things apart
and then put them together.

Speaker 27 (01:43:01):
I don't think that I've not seen the rifle of yous,
but I'd be very surprised if it was collapsible.

Speaker 7 (01:43:05):
You might go on, Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 27 (01:43:07):
I put a Mousers between thirty seven and forty two
inches long.

Speaker 4 (01:43:11):
You know which model it was.

Speaker 27 (01:43:13):
Try to put a maasuring tape under your arm. Hit
forty inches down your leg. I don't know how tall
this guy was, but on me, from my arm it
goes almost all the way to the ground.

Speaker 7 (01:43:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:43:23):
Took a tape major oute last night.

Speaker 27 (01:43:25):
When I found out what kind of gun it was
and did the measurement, it'd be very difficult. I mean,
that's why I was walking to that funny gate. He's
got his right hand classed down on his waist. He's
holding onto the so it doesn't flop out of his pants,
but it would have gone literally from his armpit to
his ankle.

Speaker 7 (01:43:41):
Yeah, which is in my case that I could never
carry a gun like that because I'm five foot three.

Speaker 4 (01:43:48):
I got two inches on your name.

Speaker 7 (01:43:50):
Yeah, thanks a lot, And you always try to dominate.
I know, I know that's a problem for you. You
know that. So also I want to talk a little
bit about this this Ukrainian girl who was who was
murdered and danged if I don't have her name, handy,

(01:44:12):
but it's something like yoursen a. It's it's a very
very Ukrainian kind of name. She's she was escaping a Ukraine,
twenty three years old, beautiful looking gal. And you know,
and it's very good. I know you shouldn't say the
color of a man's skin, but black man on a

(01:44:35):
train arrested the let go by liberal judge fourteen times,
even as mom said he was sick. And he didn't
just he didn't just pick out any woman there were,
there were white women, black women all over the place,
but this one he went after. And and that makes

(01:44:58):
it a little bit racist, don't you think so?

Speaker 4 (01:45:02):
Well?

Speaker 27 (01:45:02):
You know, and the thing is that that, yes, she
was unusually attractive. I don't know if he got a
chance to see that when when she walked in. But
the most horrifying picture, there's a picture of her happy
stat or at least the first time I saw, looking
up with just this look of horror on her face. Yeah, realizing,
but here was a prominent America. Today, we the entire
culture that glorifies or has become numb to death. I

(01:45:26):
mean we you know, you see it even on Fox News.
I say, even on Fox these Foxes is as much
mainstream media as anything these days.

Speaker 4 (01:45:32):
But every time Brian kill Me.

Speaker 27 (01:45:34):
For example, talks about a military strike, he's got a
gleam in his eye. People forget that these are human
beings on the other end of those rockets that we're shooting. Yeah,
I mean these are and mostly conscripted teenagers or young
men that aren't there because they're evil, but they're there
because they got drafted, they got conscripted, right, And now
that you get blown to pieces, and it happens every day,

(01:45:54):
and then all the video games these kids play, it's
just death. It's murder, it's it's warfare, it's it's blasting people,
and it gives people this kind of false reality that
the death is is this kind of a game, that
it's not serious, that that life is meaningless or or
not material, and that you have a you know, it's

(01:46:15):
it's like there is no longer this respect for human
life that I think there was a generation to go.
I think that our current population, the millennials, just feel
that and younger particularly just feel that there are no norms.
I mean a madle Darkin called it anomy normlessness, and
I think that's the society.

Speaker 4 (01:46:36):
We live in now.

Speaker 27 (01:46:37):
You didn't have to in the old days when we
were kids, Dave. You didn't do what was wrong because
it was wrong. Now I don't think there's any sense
of right or wrong. Now. I think is can I
get away with it? And even if I can't get
away with it, I'm going to do it because I
feel like it.

Speaker 7 (01:46:50):
And I'll try to live my way out and blame
somebody else. Now we're talking to the Democrats. Yeah, they're blaming.
They're blaming Charlie, the Charlie Kirk deal on guns.

Speaker 27 (01:47:04):
Well and Donald Trump. Governor Pritzker, the bastaord from Chicago
was yesterday directly blaming Donald Trump and the insurrectionists.

Speaker 7 (01:47:12):
Yeah, exactly, you heard that. I was going to ask
you about that because that directly is you you know
everything about this?

Speaker 4 (01:47:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:47:20):
Yeah, gee. Let me ask a question. Was Pritzker right
about one to six? How does he not know what
really happened?

Speaker 27 (01:47:29):
Has he not talked to you, He's not talked to me,
He's probably not talked to any J sixer, But I
can tell you this that say when he said that yesterday,
and Elizabeth Warren said the same thing. Yeah, he's putting
a bullseye on all of us. And that's just that's
a problem. That's a real problem. I got contacted by
the Anderson Cooper Show last week. They want me to
they want to come down and interview me, and they

(01:47:51):
want to talk to some of my clients about January sixth. Well,
hell no, I mean, do these people want to get
on television now and you have big targets hainted on them?

Speaker 7 (01:48:00):
Yeah? There you go. Well, it's enough that we were
both in the radio too, and that we you know,
I mean, you say stuff and you put yourself out there. Yeah,
you know.

Speaker 4 (01:48:12):
I'll say one thing.

Speaker 27 (01:48:13):
Did you see did you hear the words that were
carved on the shellcasings?

Speaker 7 (01:48:18):
Yeah? I heard about them. They were trans with the
bullet that killed Charlie came on the showcasing that had
the words hello fascist on it.

Speaker 27 (01:48:28):
The third that didn't get fired said if you read this,
you're gay. Well I will say something right now, as
I called on my wife is as I heard that
and said, who does.

Speaker 4 (01:48:37):
That remind you of?

Speaker 27 (01:48:39):
There was a former candidate for a Secretary of State
in Missouri, who her slogan was don't be weak and gay,
and she typically published on her on her ex feed
a line that says, if you're reading this, you're probably gay.

Speaker 7 (01:48:54):
Wow.

Speaker 27 (01:48:55):
Just it just struck me immediately, like, boy, it was this.
And she's an incendiary racist in my humble opinion, and
she's insulted every kind of racial group and an age
group and weight group and everything else. But she openly
advocates violence. And when I heard that, he scratched into
a showcasing if you're reading this, you're gay? That just said, Wow,

(01:49:18):
I've heard those words before.

Speaker 5 (01:49:19):
Yeah, what was he looking for there?

Speaker 4 (01:49:22):
I have no idea.

Speaker 27 (01:49:24):
Maybe he's just stinking crazy. The problem is, you know, Dave,
I don't know what this is. But we live in
the West End and the streets are just full of
crazy people wandering down the street talking to themselves, you know,
pooping on the sidewalk and all that kind of stuff.
And my wife asked me a couple of days ago,
how come so many people are crazy these days? Is
it drugs? Is if vaccinations? Is it the environment? But

(01:49:47):
and you know, when I was in sociology my mina
graduate degrees are in criminal justice, sociology, and psychology. And
back when I was in college forty five years ago,
they had this decarceration movement for people that are insane.
Instead of instead of hospitalizing them institutionalizing them, they would

(01:50:08):
release them into society because they wanted to be They
wanted to decarcerate these poor crazy people that had been
locked away in mental hospitals. Well, and so the answer
is now we've got the streets filled with the people
whom fifty years ago would have been on thorizine, strapped
to a bed, and now they're walking down the street.

Speaker 7 (01:50:25):
By the way, light rail cars by the way. Speaking
of cities that need to have have their police and
their justice fixed, it was mentioned today on my way
to doing the show that this morning Trump said Saint Louis,
we got to go to Saint Louis.

Speaker 30 (01:50:47):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:50:47):
I'd been waiting for him to say that.

Speaker 7 (01:50:49):
He said it. I was wondering if you told them
to say that.

Speaker 4 (01:50:52):
I would have if I'd had the opportunity. You know,
we said that. I was talking to you about this
at lunch the other day, right.

Speaker 27 (01:50:58):
Yeah, I've always been kind of an anti establishment kind
of guy, and when I was in college. The concept
of the president of the United States sending the National
Guard in the nineteen different cities, Yeah, would have been
an upsetting concept for me.

Speaker 7 (01:51:10):
Right.

Speaker 27 (01:51:11):
The difference is, I trust this guy, and I don't
think he's trying to take over the country by military.
I think he's trying to save our ends from a
society that's gone crazy, and I thank him for it.

Speaker 7 (01:51:20):
Yeah. But like everyone says, you know, you keep calling
people Nasie Hitler, and you do it every day, and
you know, you pretty you know, a dictator. Pretty soon
it resonates in some people that well, look at all
the people in the news that are seeing this, and

(01:51:41):
all the other politicians, the Democrats are saying this.

Speaker 27 (01:51:45):
And yeah, and so you then if you had the
opportunity to kill Hitler in nineteen thirty three, you know,
would you have done it?

Speaker 5 (01:51:51):
Hell?

Speaker 7 (01:51:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 27 (01:51:52):
People feel that they're justified what they're doing because they've
been told it's a moral imperative to take care of
these people. There was a girl being interviewed yesterday. I
can't remember what news outlet was interviewing her. It was
down at ut Texas and uh, she's saying, well, somebody
had to do it.

Speaker 7 (01:52:10):
Somebody had to do what the uh chill Charlie Kirk?
Really yeah? Why did she say why?

Speaker 27 (01:52:17):
No, she didn't say why. And then they asked her,
would you have done it? And she said, well, no,
but somebody had to do it. I mean, this is
the world that we live in here today, you know.
I I uh, when I was when I was running
for Senate, I was in open spaces. When I was
campaigning for Trump, we would do, you know, outdoor venues
all the year. Would I do that today? Probably yes,

(01:52:39):
because I don't have much sense.

Speaker 7 (01:52:41):
Uh.

Speaker 27 (01:52:42):
You know, I was saying, when I go down to
Cape Cairarta on Tuesday to give a speech, Am I
gonna wear armor?

Speaker 4 (01:52:46):
Wouldn't have done Charlie any good?

Speaker 7 (01:52:48):
Well that's that, that's true. Uh. But you know do something.
I mean, you gotta you gotta have some kind of security.
Try it to try to stay alive.

Speaker 4 (01:52:58):
Okay, yeah, I try almost every day. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:53:04):
Yeah, so let's see. Uh And then you got a
brilliant Pritz Carr. Oh they tried. Did you see it?
When they tried to have a silent prayer for Charlie
in Congress and the Democrats are all screaming, no, what

(01:53:25):
is this say, are we going to have a civil
war or or not?

Speaker 27 (01:53:30):
What do you like the State of the Union address?
When the Democrats wouldn't stand up to honor the death
of an innocent young women that were murdered, the kid
with the brain canceled, it gets to be a secret
Service agent. When the Democrats refuse to show a shred
of human decency that they would rather sit in their
hands and and and condemn everything that Donald Trump does,

(01:53:52):
no matter how altruistic it is, no matter how beneficial
for the people is If if you're going to be
so inhuman as to deny the family of a woman
murdered by by an illegal alien the honor of standing
for in recognition of that loss, then you have no
soul you.

Speaker 4 (01:54:13):
Have you have no honor.

Speaker 27 (01:54:14):
And to verbally shout out your disdain for trying to
pray for the family of a man that's brutally murdered.
I don't care who he is. His family you know
is suffering. Oh, and the power of prayer is real
and exists.

Speaker 4 (01:54:30):
And to.

Speaker 27 (01:54:33):
Viciously attack the thought of having a prayer for the
family of a man brutally murdered in the prime of
his life, it is just reprehensible. It's just if this
is if this is what the left stands for these days,
it's it's a it's a terrible.

Speaker 7 (01:54:48):
Well, but they think they're killing Hitler, and really that
they have they have so much, so much hatred for
Trump first of all, and anybody connected Trump by the
way that they think they're killing one of his generals
or something, that this is how they're screwed up.

Speaker 27 (01:55:10):
Absolutely, And I mean, if you really believe it, you know,
if you really believe that you are the champions of
justice and the other side is the essence of evil,
you feel justified in taking whatever means necessary.

Speaker 7 (01:55:23):
Well, they're not willing, they're not willing to take another
step and keep on looking for the truth. They're just
not willing. They're just going to believe all that crap. Uh,
Patricia Odin Maxwell Tyler had dinner with some friends the
day before the shooting, and he told them how much
disdain he had for Charlie and that he was full

(01:55:48):
of hate. The shellcasings had inscriptions on them of his hate. Okay.
One of the shells read, hey, fascist hate fascist, catch
I don't know, hay fascist? Well okay, and.

Speaker 27 (01:56:06):
You were and you may remember that for at least
the movies and the photographs. In World War Two, for example,
the uh uh Air Force would inscribe the bombs are
going to drop right with the anti Hitler propaganda or
just you know, catch this big boy and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (01:56:24):
And so it's the same thing. It's exactly what you're saying.

Speaker 27 (01:56:26):
These people feel that they're that they have a duty
to confront this great evil that's that Trump reprehend represents
and do everything necessary to stop it, even if it
comes down to the killing a young man for doing
no more. You know, Charlie Kirk wasn't a politician, He
didn't hold public office. All he did was he he
got in the public scare square.

Speaker 4 (01:56:47):
And asked questions.

Speaker 27 (01:56:48):
Yeah, and if that is so frightening to the left,
that is so frightening to people that that uh you know,
hate Trump just asking questions that you have to kill them,
and holy you know what, we're.

Speaker 4 (01:57:00):
For royal hurt.

Speaker 7 (01:57:00):
We're in for royal hurt and maybe a civil war.
It's got to stop, you know, somewhere, it's got to stop.
We can't tolerate it.

Speaker 27 (01:57:09):
During the Obama administration, there was a ran analysis done
of how many people would die in that sol war.

Speaker 4 (01:57:17):
Oh and I think back in those days the number
was thirty million people.

Speaker 7 (01:57:20):
Yeah, I don't doubt it, because they were they were set,
They were already in set that that they This is
back in twenty sixteen. I wrote a column about this. Uh.
There was somebody in the in the Obama administration. They
asked him, what are you going to do with all
these all these you know, maga people, and and he says, well,

(01:57:41):
we're going to re educate them. And the person says, well,
what if you can't, well, we're going to have to
eliminate them. That's twenty five million people right there. At
that time, the Tea Party, so to speak. Yeah, you know, so.

Speaker 27 (01:57:55):
They would say twice while he was president, he says,
if you think you're gonna you're going to defeat the
government with your with your with your ar fifteens, you
better have some F fifteens and some nuclear weapons.

Speaker 7 (01:58:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 27 (01:58:05):
The president of the United States threatening the people on
the right with nuclear weapons.

Speaker 4 (01:58:09):
And fighter pilots.

Speaker 7 (01:58:11):
Yeah. And think of all those drones that were flying
over the East Coast. Yeah, and the and the you know,
you wonder if they're gonna if they if they do
have a civil war, who would come in with them?

Speaker 5 (01:58:22):
China?

Speaker 7 (01:58:23):
Maybe? Yeah, So I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 27 (01:58:27):
Well, what's so, what's the oldest game plan in the
history of combat? Right, Divide and conquer? Yeah, says on
the Great Seal of the State of Missouri United. We stand, divided,
we fall, and hitting us against each other is the
best way to weaken us as a whole.

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and on that I will leave you high to your
lovely bride. Hope you feels better, and uh maybe I'll
come in and have lunch with you some day. Two great, okay, buddy,
Thanks bye bye. All right, uh, and we have we

(01:59:56):
have our next guest here. We're just going going full
steam when I we've only done one set of commercials, right, okay,
so around ten ten twenty five. Remind me now this
gentleman and you know I'm not using this world word
lately because he's a good guy. Actually, we're friends. Well,

(02:00:20):
we tease each other sometimes, which has me crying after
the show all the time. Expert on capitalism, Marxism, communism,
author of Rules for Defeating Radicals, He contacted me to

(02:00:41):
express his feelings about Charlie Kirk and wanted to be
on the show. I had a full show. I was
going to squeeze him in it, but I had a cancelation.
So anyways, please welcome Chris Adamo. H we've got you

(02:01:04):
know that you know the news about the criminal, right,
the killer?

Speaker 11 (02:01:10):
Yeah, I just I just heard that there that they've
they've got him in custody. Apparently. What I heard is
he confessed to his father and his father turned him in.

Speaker 7 (02:01:19):
His father and the father's friend. Is the latest I
had on it. Yeah, okay, Yeah, he's twenty two years old.
He didn't go to that college, and i'd like to know,
you know, how he learned how to First of all,
that's a big gun he had. It's a World War
two gun, and he was a pretty good shooter. That's
a six hundred foot shot, and he might have been

(02:01:42):
aiming ian at his head, but he ended up getting
his getting his man what is that? What do they
call that? Ratic artery? And led out in a couple
of minutes.

Speaker 5 (02:01:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:01:59):
So so your book resonates uh in how radicals fight.
It's right up your alley. Please explain.

Speaker 11 (02:02:09):
Well, excuse me, I'm a little little horse, little dry
in the throat today.

Speaker 5 (02:02:14):
Hope you'll be patient with me.

Speaker 7 (02:02:16):
Yeah, and uh, I you know, I put the booze down,
drink water. I will do that nice drinking book.

Speaker 5 (02:02:25):
I love the banter, Dave that we normally have.

Speaker 7 (02:02:28):
I love the banter.

Speaker 11 (02:02:29):
And yet I heard when you just signed off with
Mark there a minute ago. It's no jokes. Today we're
at a time like no other in American history.

Speaker 7 (02:02:38):
Uh that I tell you.

Speaker 11 (02:02:41):
I I can see, I can see a dire, dire
future coming. And I say this, we have two huge events.
Uh they're they are related, but they're distinctly different. And
uh and the second one, by all means, is actually
the more noteworth And this is going to sound kind
of crazy when I say this, but the Charlie Kirk

(02:03:04):
murder is actually not the biggest event we're facing right now.
It's it's what we've seen from the left since that time. Okay, yes,
you understand me. And you've got to say that very
carefully because people go, where are you going with this?
But the truth is that that if Charlie Kirk had
been if he had been you know, his car blew

(02:03:25):
attire and flipped over in additch and he died, that
would not have been the same thing. Okay, but he
begn Okay, So it's a huge, huge loss to the
country that he's gone. But what you have seen in
the last forty eight hours, you have seen an open
manifestation of the absolute evil and depravity that not just

(02:03:49):
the man who shot him. I mean, that was one person,
and you know, we don't know yet. He may have
acted alone, he may have acted in concert with others.
But what you have seen is this massive madness from
the American left celebrating this event. What they're what they're
celebrating is not just the death of Charlie Kirk, but
their belief in the death of you and me and

(02:04:10):
every other American that that they think they can now
silence for speaking out. Okay, it's it's been. It's been
ghoulish the way these people have celebrated this. What is
it that Charlie Kirk did. He never intimidated anybody, He
never bullied anybody, he never harassed anybody. What he did

(02:04:31):
was he spoke the truth. And it was a truth
that set a lot of these indoctrinated little college brats
free from their indoctrination right and they could start seeing
the truth. That's what the left hates about it.

Speaker 7 (02:04:45):
And he showed them how they were being twisted by
the professors by using his own sources, that they refuse
to teach these kids exactly.

Speaker 11 (02:04:56):
And this, this is why the real reason the left
hates him is because he spoke the truth. I'll be
honest with you. I did try at one point, and
it's a it's an uphill battle trying to get some
of these big organizations like Turning Point USA.

Speaker 7 (02:05:10):
I tried.

Speaker 11 (02:05:11):
I've sent a few copies of my book. They really
liked it. I said, this needs to go out to
college kids before they go to college, so they can
understand the manipulations place. Okay, I haven't had much success
with that. You know, maybe i'd be a target too
if I did. But the point is that what they hate.
They claim that you're the you're the biggot, you're the racist,

(02:05:32):
you're the homophobe, whatever. No, what they hate is when
you speak the truth because they they operate under lies,
because Marxism itself was a lie, can only be advanced
through lies, and so its biggest enemy is the truth.
That's what they hate. Here, now, I'd like to go
just briefly. I got a whole page full.

Speaker 7 (02:05:51):
Of notes, O cakes, O go go.

Speaker 11 (02:05:53):
But what we need to understand is that the evil
that we seen since his death is the real evil
that we we're facing and the the the just the
glee with which these people celebrate the what they believe
is the death of truth. They're wrong because if anything,

(02:06:15):
he's his aftermath is liably be an army of people
saying I've had enough of this.

Speaker 7 (02:06:20):
Well, let me say just say this. They equate him
as a Nazi, as a as a hit of course,
and they feel justified in that, even though they haven't.
They're just listening to the mainstream media and you'll get
that out of them. Oh yeah, absolutely, And now they
get it out of their professor's shoe. That kind of

(02:06:41):
walks it in.

Speaker 11 (02:06:42):
It's absolutely how they operate from the moment it happened.
Now again there's some people that are saying, well, this
was done all by you know, the Chinese or something.
I don't know who all was behind it, but whether
whether the left actually did this as a coordinated effort
or whether it was a random aft. For there are
always any any major incident, remember rom Emmanuel saying, never

(02:07:04):
let a crisis go to waste. Any major incident, they
are ready to jump on it, manipulate it, and use
it for political advantage. And the first thing that you heard,
we knew was coming. The first thing is it was
the guns. It was the guns. Okay, this is this
is typical. But there's several other things going on here.
Excuse me, and I really wanted to delve into it's

(02:07:27):
it's critically important we understand these things. The Democrats, the
Democrat politicians, uh are they're they're all grand standing, Well,
we condemn, we condemned the killing. But and then they
go off into either it's the guns or the big
one that they've really been pushing, and it's actually been
working on some rhinos, is we all need to tone

(02:07:50):
down the rhetoric and meet in the middle. Okay, I
can tell you two people right now. Thomas Massey, Senator
from Kentucky, he's undermined President Trump several times, and then
Katie Britt, the Senator from Alabama, Republicans, total rhinos. They
jumped right onto this bandwagon of let's tone down the rhetoric. Okay, now,
when left to say let's tone down the rhetic, here's

(02:08:12):
what they mean. They mean you and I need to
shut up. They're going to move even further left. And
then if we try to meet them in the middle.
We have to move that much further to find the middle, okay,
because they define.

Speaker 7 (02:08:23):
It until they until we agree that we're going to
go along with their program exactly.

Speaker 11 (02:08:30):
Until then, you're the hate monger, you're the bigot, you're
the homophones. They don't tone down the rhetoric one bit,
and we try to find common ground from them. Now,
I've heard several people coming out and saying, I mean,
I mean spokespeople on our site coming out and saying,
there is no common ground with these people. And that's
the absolute truth. When you saw the celebrations, you saw

(02:08:51):
what these people actually believe about you and me speaking
the truth. Okay, the politicians, the Chuck Schumers and everybody
like that, Barack Obama or we condemned the killing, but
we need to tone down the rhetoric. The only one,
the only Democrat that you can believe, actually condemns the killing.
The only Democrat you can believe is the Democrat who

(02:09:13):
not only decries the murder, but decries all of his
fellow Democrats that are celebrating. And not one public office
has done that.

Speaker 7 (02:09:23):
What's his name? No, I think I think the guy
in Pennsylvania has done that. Oh, oh, you're talking about Fetterman. Yeah,
you know, if anybody Okay, I didn't know about him.
I think I think he tries hard enough.

Speaker 11 (02:09:35):
He tries to be honest, and that makes him he's
not a Democrat in good standing because he does he
does that. But but yeah, aside from him, Obama, Schumer,
all the rest of him condemning the killing, but not
saying a word about all these leftist lunatics out there
who are celebrating the killing, they don't really condemn it.

(02:09:56):
They're they're hypocrites, they're liars, and they're just up to
their their this as usual.

Speaker 7 (02:10:00):
So what should Trump do about this?

Speaker 11 (02:10:04):
Lots of things. Well, one of the things that Trump
has done is obviously he he he did his best
to honor Charlie Kirk. The other thing is that the
the the FBI has been pursuing this diligently. Okay, but
they can't do it on their own. Okay, what they're
what they need, They need an American populist that says enough,

(02:10:27):
we aren't taking this anymore. We are not going to
try and go the extra mile with you people, when
all you do is go the extra two miles in
the wrong direction. We're not We're not going to do that.
We have got to come out and take a stand
and say no more of this. And I'll give it
an incident that you know, people say, well, gee, this
is unfortunate whatever. But but they had on the on

(02:10:50):
the night of the killing. They had on the night
of the tenth, they had a vigil up in a Boise, Idaho.
College kids got out there at a vigil on behalf
of Charlie Kirk. Okay, some little blm punk on a
motorcycle rides right into the middle of them and is
screaming obscenities about you know, leefully cheering on the death

(02:11:10):
of Charlie Kirk. Okay, he got the crap beat.

Speaker 7 (02:11:13):
Out of him.

Speaker 11 (02:11:15):
Now, two things happened from this. First of all, he
learned a lesson because he thought he was invincible on
the basis that our side shows restraint. Leftists perceive that
as weakness. Okay, they actually did him the biggest favor
they could because he got the snot beat out of him.
But they didn't kill him. Okay, he learned an invaluable lesson.
He probably won't ever do that again. Here's the other thing.

(02:11:38):
You haven't had any of these other vigials since that time,
where the leftists have tried anything quite like that, because
it's like, you know what, those conservatives are a bit
wound at this point and we might not be able
to get away with this. They've done it in the past,
we've turned the other cheek. I think I've told you
about the incident back. I believe it was twenty twenty

(02:11:58):
when Antifa told the people of Wyoming, we're coming to
get you guys. They were going to They had three
bus loads of Antifa show up, two or three bus
loads anyway, show up in Casper, Wyoming. They're going to
come in there and they're going to rain terror down
on the people of Wyoming. Casper is right in the
center of the state. Every rancher within one hundred miles goes,
you know, I've been wanting to sight in my rifle

(02:12:19):
hunting season is coming up. And so they showed up
there and that those buses were surrounded and what they
what they told them, and they were these are conservatives,
They're not a bunch of murderers. They were very restrained.
They said, you have a First Amendment right to free speech.
You can come out here and say whatever you want,
but you damage anything and you're going to pay consequences.

Speaker 7 (02:12:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (02:12:40):
Well that's not what Antifa wanted to hear, because they're
not about free speech. They're they're about pillaging and marauding
and intimidating and looting. And so they got off the bus.
They looked around them and they said, you know what,
We're not sticking around. They left Wyoming. Yeah, okay, Wyoming
hasn't had any any future or further incursions by antiep

(02:13:00):
it because they know better when we take a stand
and we say we're not putting up with us, and yeah,
we will cross the line and get violent with you people.
If you cross the line, we will. We will be retribution.

Speaker 7 (02:13:13):
They stop, You can't. There's nowhere to run. First of all,
I mean there's nowhere to run because I'll always find you.
And secondly, you've got to stand up to people who
are we have no room left. We got to stand. Yeah,
we have no room. You know. You know when you're back,
when your back hits the wall, straighten your spine and

(02:13:36):
look them in the eye and say I think I'm
not doing this. You're done.

Speaker 11 (02:13:41):
We spent far too much time. We spent far too
much time backing up when we shouldn't have. We should
have drawn the line on this stuff. I'll tell you
when we should share the line. There was again, probably
twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen. I'd have to look up the date,
but there was an incident in Berkeley, California.

Speaker 5 (02:13:59):
I believe it was.

Speaker 11 (02:14:00):
Now you've heard me say in the past, I said
the Holocaust did not become inevitable on the day that
the gas chamber started operating. It became inevitable on the
day that the first Nazi threw a rock through the
window of a Jewish business and nothing happened. Okay, So
back in California it was either I believe it was
Berkeley where they had they had Antifa protests or something,

(02:14:25):
and there were protests and counter protests. A Berkeley professor,
which means he's on the public doll people of California
paying from he attacked the opposition with It was a
bicycle lock inside of a sock, and he assaulted people
with this and caused a bunch of injury because it
turns into like a bludget when you do that. He

(02:14:46):
did that, and he got let off with some sort
of token community service because the judge was just as corrupt. Okay,
the minute that happens, that sends a signal to every
other case out there can go do this with no
cat or more or more absolutely.

Speaker 7 (02:15:05):
Well, uh, it's uh, it's time. It seems to be time.
This has to stop. And you're exactly right. Uh so
I think you know, I don't know how we avoid this.
It's it's uh sounds like a civil war coming. I

(02:15:26):
had other people said, well, this, Charlie kirkis you're going
to have thousands of people who were silent before now
go out and and do the same thing as Charlie did,
and and somehow convince the whole world that this is
you know, because they did. Actually Charlie did had a

(02:15:48):
lot to do with Trump winning the the last election.

Speaker 11 (02:15:53):
Oh sure, he affected the young college kids. The thing
about a fraudulent salesman is once he is exposed, he
can never put the mask back on. Okay, once these
kids learn that this is the manipulation that you've been
you've been subject to, which is why you've believed that

(02:16:14):
socialism is good and here's what's wrong with it, or
that abortion is just you know, get rid of an
unwanted fetus and yet it's a real baby, or the
other things that Charlie Kirk taught these people. Once you
learn that, once you take the mask off of that liar,
he can't be trusted. I know, he can't be trusted.

Speaker 7 (02:16:30):
You can't.

Speaker 11 (02:16:30):
He can't put that mask back on. And this is
again what the left hated.

Speaker 7 (02:16:35):
But that's that's what happens when he when he talks
common sense to the people and they change their mind.
They hate that. They oh, you don't admire that. They
want him dead even worse because he's making he's making
good grounds on what God wants him to do. Yeah,

(02:16:58):
and they're godless and they are godless.

Speaker 11 (02:17:02):
And as a matter of fact, there's one other incident, well,
I got, like I said, a whole page of that
I like here. But the remember Stephen King, the author
Joe and those other those other twisted things that he did.
He put up a post that said that Charlie Kirk
wanted to see homosexual stone to death. Okay, and this

(02:17:25):
was this was out there. Well, it came out that
they have Charlie Kirk talking about how no, what he
wants to do is reach these people with the truth,
just like anyone else, and he's compassionate towards them, and
he was he was kind hearted towards him and everything. Okay,
So Stephen King puts up an apology and it was
a fake apology because it was Okay, I got that wrong,

(02:17:46):
Sorry everybody, let's just forget it. And my answer to
him is, no, your apology doesn't count because what he
was doing when he put up the first accusation, his
goal was to justify the killing. Charlie Kirk deserve this
because of what he's said. Now, if your goal is
to do that, you have to come out and absolutely
repent of having that as your purpose in the first place,

(02:18:10):
not not not saying okay, well yeah I still hate
the guy and everything, but this particular one I got wrong.
So we'll go find something. Yeah, that's not an apology.

Speaker 7 (02:18:18):
I agree, I agree, I agree. So anyways, uh oh man,
it's just tough. What else you got?

Speaker 11 (02:18:28):
What else do I have? Okay? I want to talk
about the CNN, the MSNBC and how they kicked off,
and we talked about this evil, evil ideology of the
left that's now been fully unmasked.

Speaker 7 (02:18:47):
Somebody got fired. His name was Dowd d o.

Speaker 11 (02:18:49):
W D right, right, Matthew Dowd and good for good
for MSNBC. But he's been saying things just as as despicable,
just this is inflammatory for how long? And they never
fired him? Okay, this is not about free speech. This
is about does MSNBC really have credibility as far as
presenting news or did they have to do this? And

(02:19:12):
he's the scapegoat And now they're gonna it was damage control.
Now they're going to claim that, yeah, we got rid
of the bad guy. No, he wasn't the only one.
And that was not the only lie that they ever told.
CNN since then has been and this is typical. They've
been worried about backlash because there might be threats and

(02:19:32):
things like this. Okay, now, let's go back to yesterday,
the twenty fourth anniversary of nine to eleven. And in
the aftermath of nine to eleven, there was this massive
upswing and American patriotism and the leftist media had to
jump on it and tamp it down as quickly as
he could. And one of the things that they started

(02:19:52):
pushing was Islamophobia. That's probably when the word got invented
a lot or.

Speaker 7 (02:19:58):
The Jews did it there was well, yeah, there like
that too, And it was the Jews that did this.
I heard that. I'm dealing with that. Man, I'm standing
face to face with with a big black guys as
you Jews did this. Yeah, I told kissing area where
you don't want to.

Speaker 11 (02:20:15):
Somehow we got a cover for the Muslims.

Speaker 7 (02:20:18):
Ye.

Speaker 11 (02:20:18):
So, And I'm telling you the immediate aftermath of nine
to eleven, the leftist fake news crowd, the same one
that is now saying they're worried about the backlash over
this Charlie Kirk thing. They're not worried about what the
leftists are still doing on steroids and overdrive to create
the backlash. They're just worried about the backlash. We can
slap you around any way we want, but if you

(02:20:41):
get mad, that's backlash and you're the bad guy. Okay,
So they're still at it. This is still you know,
back to Olenski here, This is still leftists posturing their
way onto their moral high ground, and they're still the
same people. They intend to leverage this situation to their advantage.
We knew that the It's all about the guns was coming.

(02:21:01):
We could have predicted that it's well, the rhetoric is
too heated, Dave. It's your fault. It's my fault because
we're too strident about this. We need to tone down.

Speaker 7 (02:21:10):
And you and me both agree that you're not going
to talk us down, you know, for Ron's a little
admit it, but we're not. We're not going to We're
not going to suck up to anybody because we make
points that hurt your feelings. It's too bad. Okay, it happened,
So we're going to talk about done that all along.
And I have too, and you too.

Speaker 11 (02:21:31):
But again again, I go back to Thomas Massey and
Katie Britt, those senators. Sure enough, there's the rhinos that hey,
there's a good looking left, this bandwagon we can jump
on and say that we've broadened our base and we've
reached out and we're the nice guys. We're not the
mean people they say we are. Watch us jump through
hoops for the left to prove that we're the nice guys.

Speaker 7 (02:21:53):
Did you see what Joe Scarborough said on uh Morning?
Joe with his wife staring at.

Speaker 11 (02:22:00):
Before even knowing what he said, I'm appalled by it.

Speaker 7 (02:22:03):
Well wait a minute, he says, he says, you know,
I think President Trump is right about him wanting to
go and meet with U. Pritzker, Governor Pritzker, and they should,
you know, he should. Pritzker should say, oh, yeah, we

(02:22:23):
got a problem. We'd like your help. Okay. His wife
is looking at him like he like, what you dumb ass? Okay,
but he said it.

Speaker 5 (02:22:36):
That's kind of interesting.

Speaker 11 (02:22:37):
I do have Pritzker on the list there because that's
a perfect example.

Speaker 5 (02:22:42):
It's Trump's fault.

Speaker 7 (02:22:43):
Yeah, all right, Uh okay, I got to do commercials now,
So if you have anything else, like a minute or two.

Speaker 11 (02:22:52):
Okay, I will go through the list and we'll you
want after the commercial.

Speaker 7 (02:22:56):
Shirt, Well, okay, let's do the commercials first and we'll
come back. How's that all right? We're gonna have Jeff
Zincon too. I don't know if maybe maybe be okay
with you being on. I don't know. We'll see.

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Speaker 7 (02:28:29):
You know we're back with Chris Adamo, and you know
they killed Charlie. You couldn't beat him, you couldn't outsmart him.
There were cowards and bullies, he had generational talent, stole
him from his family. You just created a new generation

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of Charlie Kirks. Thousands, maybe millions. In fact, that was
a clip on your page by by a minister. What
do you think of that.

Speaker 11 (02:29:04):
Let's hope and pray that that happens, because the goal
again of the left is to deride, mock and intimidate
typical Olinsky Again, this is how they do it. There's
no conscience in these people. I want to give you, though,
a contrast. I want to part with this remember back
to the whole George Floyd thing. Now you you've I'm
sure you've even shown it, this famous picture of Nancy

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Pelosi and all these Democrats taking a knee in honor
of George Floyd.

Speaker 7 (02:29:32):
Of George Floyd.

Speaker 11 (02:29:33):
Yes, and he was a he was a felon, he
was a he was a brutal felon, and and he
did not die because of racism. But by golly, they're
going to make him a martyr. Okay, that's what they
that's what the left makes them mark, Okay. And they
took a knee, and they had the picture. They demanded
that we all genuflected that alter, okay for this criminal.

Speaker 7 (02:29:53):
Okay.

Speaker 11 (02:29:54):
Now, in contrast to that, Mike, Mike Johnson there the
spe or the house, yes, tried to have a moment
of silence for Charlie Kirk. And what did the Democrats do?
They honor people like George Floyd. They created a rucus
and the less screamed, this, this is how democrats are.

Speaker 7 (02:30:15):
This is why one one female probably democrats is y'all
made this happen?

Speaker 11 (02:30:21):
You know, Oh, I guarantee you it was a Democrat. Yeah, Okay,
So this is not just that shooter on the roof.
This is the entire leftist Democrat political machine.

Speaker 7 (02:30:32):
They are all in it.

Speaker 11 (02:30:33):
The only ones you mentioned Fetterman, Okay, I'll give I'll
give him leeway on that, But the rest of them
have proven that they do not condemn these actions. They
actually kind of look aside, kind of wink and nod
at them, and then they get up and make some
platitude about we've all got to come together as a
means of getting you and me to shut up.

Speaker 7 (02:30:50):
So this is all they are. This is exactly right,
go ahead.

Speaker 10 (02:30:54):
So you know, the question is will this create more
Charlie Kirks. What's even in ours one that Ben Shapiro
is never going to go on college campuses and continue
what Charlie was doing before all this happened this week.
I think back to the RNC and the immortal Hall
Cogan before he passed recently, he was there and he

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started speaking. He said, I've always been conservative, but I
was quiet until they tried to kill Trump, and I said,
it's time to fight. It's time to not be quiet anymore.
And I think that this is going to have the
same type of effect on our side, at least, that's
what I'm hoping on.

Speaker 11 (02:31:29):
You get a chance.

Speaker 7 (02:31:30):
Look.

Speaker 11 (02:31:31):
Look at a man named Nick friedis on He's on YouTube.
He's an outspoken conservative. I think he's probably going to
be president one day. He's a representative from Virginia and
he has confronted He actually has a brilliant monologue that
he does where he talked about the fact that he's
confronting the Democrats speaker of the Virginia House, and he says,

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you know what, I at one time thought there was
common ground with you people.

Speaker 5 (02:31:56):
There is none.

Speaker 7 (02:31:58):
Yeah, all right, listen to me. I got my next guests.
Are there other than Dave Wayne by them show? Where
can people find you and buy your book?

Speaker 11 (02:32:08):
Okay, it's it's still at Amazon. It's still absolutely needed.
It's the handbook for our side to understand who left
us are and uh, not to try and jump on
a bandwagon a grand stand, but but uh this this
would be invaluable for college students to uh going off
to college and come out of a conservative upbringing and
then they go to college and they're.

Speaker 7 (02:32:29):
Absolutely and you need you need to go back and
try to sell it to these people as well.

Speaker 11 (02:32:33):
This would arm them, Okay, absolutely arm them. So I'm
going to get out of your.

Speaker 7 (02:32:37):
Way, my friend. Just leave it with one thing. Victories.
Victories often occur when you see no way to succeed,
but refuse to give up anyway. Amen, Amen, all right,
now keep it. God bless you too. Let's hear it
for Chris Adamo. Okay, so we've got but my next

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guests are rare and to go. I'm sure I had
to mix up pages today because of all the stuff
that we had. Changes. We had some changes, believe it
or not. This couple, I see there's a is that Stephanie?
Yes it is. Oh that's so cute. And my wife

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just walked in. How about that Kenisi? I'llogist level one
football player and basketball referee now in his own business.
Please welcome, I think from Arizona, but I'm not sure.
Jeff Zinc and Stephanie Zinc, good morning, Welcome to the show.

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Both of you. You know, well my pleasure, the pleasure
is mine. Well, no, the honor is mine. We can
do this all day, you know, and I'll figure out something.
Say so, all right, so welcome, welcome to the darn show. Okay,
so how many? How many more? Charlie Kirks are there

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coming to us to preach after Charlie's murder? Are they
going to Is this going to create a whole generation
of young people going out and risking themselves for this
or are people just going to be silenced by it?

Speaker 33 (02:34:32):
Well, you know, I'm seeing a groundswell. I mean, I'm
seeing that people are they're they're walking away from a
lot of the liberal ideology that hasn't helped them, hasn't
fulfilled them, and they're turning to Jesus.

Speaker 21 (02:34:50):
And that's what Charlie would have wanted.

Speaker 33 (02:34:52):
He would have wanted his legacy to be that he
impacted so many lives that people turn to Jesus now.

Speaker 7 (02:35:02):
He also was very friendly with with with Jews as well,
and in fact, in fact, he kept the Jewish the
Jewish uh uh. He kept the Jewish Shabbat every every Saturday.

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He did that Friday night to Saturday. He shut himself down,
spent spent the day with his family and.

Speaker 21 (02:35:29):
I one of the things that we have In fact,
last Friday, we we were welcomed in a home uh
and celebrated Shabbat and went through uh the traditional meal
uh and and really had a good time. And what

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ended up happening is is they found out that I'm
also a very strong Jewish supporter and always had been because, Uh,
whether Christians believe it or not, we are we are
grounded and we sprout out of the Jewish faith and

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we work together. And that's that's one of the things
that we've got to do. And Happy Rushashana, thank you,
thank you.

Speaker 33 (02:36:19):
Appreciate that we come from the same heritage.

Speaker 7 (02:36:24):
Yeah, we do. I mean Jesus, you know, from from
he never went against the godly ten commandments, never did
and so uh he lived and died as a Jew.
And you know, the Jews and the Christians have so

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much in common that my my guests, as you know,
Rabbi Moshe, Uh, he's gone around the world talking to
Christians and convincing them that that the time for us
to be fighting each other is gone. We need to
we need to there's too much commonality in our two

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faiths that that we need to come together and unite
with each other. Uh. And uh, just understand that we're
going to have some differences. And it's worked tremendously so
I understand exactly.

Speaker 21 (02:37:23):
One thing that Charlie actually he personified so much. He
wanted to hear what the other person had to say.
And he was willing to, you know, shush his crowd
that started booing somebody that had a different ideology, he
would he would shush the crowd to allow that individual

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to speak. Then he would take them on. He was
always able to, uh, you know, it was so intelligent.
And I love the fact that when he went to Oxford,
he literally destroying all of the teachers, all of the students,
everybody that was making up stuff. And he and he

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goes and I don't have a college education. Yeah, and
he was very proud of that.

Speaker 7 (02:38:14):
Yeah. And he kept on and it wasn't like it
wasn't like a slim victory. He was completely dominating these debates.
This guy didn't graduate. I was watching stuff like this
recently before this hit, before he died and saying, Wow,
this guy's pretty darn sharp. Plus you know, I saw

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him at a seapack when he just got started. I
think it was like twenty thirteen or something like that,
or twenty twelve. But you know, all I know is
my son called me the day he was shot and
he says, you know, you hear about Charlie. I says, yeah,
he says, you know, he was following me, and I says, yeah,

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that's funny because he was following me too. So it
was pretty interesting to see that. And I just wonder,
what's going to happen after this? What do we do now,
because a lot of people were applauding they're applauding his death.

Speaker 5 (02:39:19):
Oh yeah, And you know, and you know.

Speaker 33 (02:39:23):
One of the things we talked about a lot is
we all have a First Amendment right, but your free
speech has consequences. And if you're hurting people, you're intentionally
damaging somebody's reputation with your speech, there are consequences for that.
And you know, I'm very sorry that that people think

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that it's okay to celebrate a fellow human beings death.
That's where that's where things have gone off well, and
it's been happening for a very long you know.

Speaker 7 (02:40:00):
In nineteenth in nineteen thirty three, knowing what I know now,
would I have killed Adolf Hitler? Yeah? I would, So
I don't I don't know that. I mean, it's but
I know who he was and what he did. A
lot of people escaped Nazi Germany, including my family, escaping

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from the Ukraine for the Russians, what they what they
were doing to Jews. That's how I ended up in America,
or my grandfather did. So, you know, I don't, I
don't know. When you know, you got to know who
you're fighting, You got to know what the fight is about,

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and you got to you gotta know that you know,
somebody is going to do what they're somebody has done
something already, like they did to Charlie. Well, then it
becomes an issue, doesn't it.

Speaker 33 (02:40:58):
Well, how many more victims are we going to create
from just this one incident?

Speaker 7 (02:41:07):
Uh, I don't know, I don't know. I just you know,
but they're celebrating this death. The professors, well, professors are
celebrating this death.

Speaker 21 (02:41:21):
If we look at if we look at history, you know,
one of the things that in seventeen ninety when the
French Revolution, you know, the scholar was saying that the
French Revolution was going to happen, and in seventeen ninety
three it did, but steell collapse the whole thing. And

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they said that but because of the training of the
students that were being taught this ideology of bloodthirst we
have if you go back to Roman times, we had gladiators,
we had call of them's whole entire industry for the

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death and destruction of individuals for the sheer pleasure of
other people. And the thing is is that if you
look at what Christ did, he was so revolutionary, and
his speech was what they would reference that that's what
got him killed. Well, the same thing, and this is

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what Charlie. Charlie followed in those footsteps where he was
a very big advocate. Because one of the things that
was really interesting is that Charlie was when people would say, well,
the Jews need to be Christians and because of Christ,
and he goes, whoa hold on, wait, hold on, do
you think that the New Testament is greater than the

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Old Testament? The Torah is Genesis one one now less
significant because of his life. He goes, you have to
know both old and New tests. We just believe that
that Christ is at Siah. But I got news for you.
A Messiah is coming for both Jews and Christians, and

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it happens to be the same God. And that's the
that's the thing that was different that he always, you know,
maintained and said the Jews are not a lesser, which
is what most of the time, uh and that's what
happened in nineteen thirty three. It became that they were
a lesser human being. Well, so when you when you

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look at somebody lesser than this is the ideology.

Speaker 7 (02:43:36):
We're shown as rats. We were shown as animals.

Speaker 30 (02:43:40):
And that.

Speaker 7 (02:43:42):
Is the word irredeemable mean anything to you, irre deemable.
That's how we were classified both by Hillary and and
by Hitler. Isn't that interesting? And one other interesting thing
is that you know the Jews, you know, built the Colosseum.

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The Jews, they are Jewish slaves after the Romans made
them go throughout the world to live with the well.

Speaker 21 (02:44:20):
And one of the other things too that people need
to understand. You know, in nineteen oh three, when Rockefeller
started taking over the medical schools, he started taking over
all of the schools and everything else. You know, he
made the statement, I want somebody educated well enough to

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be told what to do, but not that they will
question why and and when. And that's the problem. You know,
they would have had such an easier time if they
would have let our generation pass away, because we're the
last generation that was taught you question everything, you reverify everything,

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and you make sure that it's the truth, and people
just think that propaganda that just because I said it,
or if I yell louder than you on right.

Speaker 7 (02:45:17):
Yeah, And you have teachers who maybe maybe in their
cases that some of them were just indoctrinate, indoctrinated just
like they're indoctrinating their their students. But I but you
would think with with with the modern ability to get easy,
uh easy arguments both ways, you would think that they

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they would have read some of this stuff and and
stop doing the wrong thing.

Speaker 12 (02:45:48):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (02:45:48):
Some of them just ignored the other side and decided
that they were right and you're wrong and you have
to be eliminated.

Speaker 33 (02:45:57):
Well that's part of that silo that so many of us,
and I mean we all do it inadvertently sometimes, is
you put yourself in a silo and you're only talking
to people who amplify your own opinion. Well, Charlie didn't
do that. He wanted to hear other people's opinions and

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why they thought.

Speaker 7 (02:46:19):
That, and invited them anyone disagree with me? I want
you in the front row, yes.

Speaker 33 (02:46:24):
And then countered it with historical facts and said, okay,
I understand you think this way, but consider this instead,
and he always did it respectfully. And that's what's missing,
because not only do we have youngsters in college that
are screaming, but their teachers are screaming. And so everybody's

(02:46:48):
in their own little echo chamber. And this is what
needs to stop, because you go to college to get
out of an echo chamber so that what you learned
in and in school and uh and at home is expanded.

Speaker 7 (02:47:06):
This is an ancient problem. How do we how do
we stop it? It's it's it's a it's a historic way.
I think Socrates got killed because he just wanted to
talk to people and ask them questions. I just heard
that today. Uh, and he got killed because of that.

Speaker 11 (02:47:21):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (02:47:21):
So how do we how do we stop this? Well?
Is there another war involved? Is it? They're not going
to listen to us.

Speaker 21 (02:47:29):
Well, you do the very thing that Charlie did. You
go out and and you talk to people, and you
have to be able to allow somebody, uh, the opportunity
to speak. Most people want to be heard. Yeah, And
the thing is is that to carry on a conversation
or a debate, one has to close their mouths and

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open the two ears. If you listen twice as much
as you speak you'll be a wise person. And and
that's what Charlie was doing. He was literally listening to
what the people were saying, these students that were saying,
and then he would then give them blatant truth that
would contradict what they thought their ideology was. And when

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most of the time, when people would walk away, they
were altered and changed. And that's what made him so dangerous.

Speaker 7 (02:48:24):
And most of most of the audience would accept for
some and and he was a threat to uh, to
politicians and to professors.

Speaker 33 (02:48:38):
A mistake and thinking that they could shut him down.
And I really do think that everything he did is
going to be amplified.

Speaker 7 (02:48:49):
Yeah, uh well, Chris.

Speaker 21 (02:48:52):
The other thing that we need to look at too
is the fact that if if we take what he
did the example, and and the great thing about it
is is the young Republicans here in Arizona made an
announcement and they they are taking the challenge. They want
to replace Charlie. They want to you know, go out

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and start talking on their campuses in the high schools
and stuff, which is again not what the you know
left want. But more importantly, here's the here's another change
that's taking place. The speech and My wife alluded to
this earlier. The speech that you use birth amendment has consequences,

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and people are now getting fired for them celebrating his assassination.
And that's the time that that's the right step in
the right direction.

Speaker 7 (02:49:51):
Yes, it's a start, it's a start, but it's a deep,
deep problem. Uh. And we've got you know, we don't
want to we don't want a war if we don't
have to. I mean, uh. And it's going to be
tough to convince a lot of people. The Democrats are

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set against this. They're set against doing anything other than
doing what they're doing.

Speaker 33 (02:50:16):
They're happy with this and that, and they they always
show their true colors, and people are and people are
seeing that. It's you know, I was, I was on
X last night, and you know what I what I'm seeing.
Like I said earlier, it's like a blanket has covered

(02:50:38):
our entire nation because people are being woken up from
like they were under a spell or something, and they're
waking up and they're going, wait a second, I don't
agree with this, because your your die hard liberal ideology
is showing its face. The enemy is showing his face

(02:51:01):
through these people.

Speaker 21 (02:51:03):
Well the election, Yeah, and it's unfortunate.

Speaker 33 (02:51:05):
I mean, it's said we have to reach this point.
But all great movements start this way, one person at
its time.

Speaker 7 (02:51:16):
Yeah. But it also is we have some results from
a couple of elections here twenty sixteen, twenty twenty, and
the contrast and back to this, nobody expected Donald Trump
to win this. Nobody, and they thought they could get

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away with everything and anything. And now a lot of
them are up on charges. And that's another thing that's
getting them to try to get us into a civil
war because they're liable to be in jail, some of
these people. I mean, you got a Barack Obama looking
at possibly a taking down on a government charge treason,

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I mean, and he provided all the information that they
needed to do it. So so so this is going
to be very interesting. And you know, and then with
us regular people who sort of are conservative and things
like that, well, we're in a little bit of a
danger here. And the key is to keep on talking.

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And that's what Charlie did. Keep on talking, doing it
like you do, and let God take care of the rest. Okay.

Speaker 21 (02:52:36):
Well, the other thing too, that people need to understand,
this would be so much worse and we would be,
they would be moving at lightning speed. The only thing
that is preventing them is the Second Amendment, and they
they are very conscious. That's the reason why Nancy Pelosi

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came out moments after Listeneth Laurien and all of them
saying that we need gun control. And the gun did
not kill anybody. It's the deprived person behind the weapon
that killed somebody. There wasn't a call for the Ukrainian lady,

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you know, for knife control, h and stuff.

Speaker 7 (02:53:20):
I was just thinking about that.

Speaker 21 (02:53:23):
It's not it's not something that people need to understand.
We would be in a much worse situation if we
didn't have the Second Amendment. And this is the reason
why our founding fathers put it there. You have the
right to have a First Amendment and you can say
what you want, but there's consequences. But when a tyrannical

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government like this is now getting out of control, you
have the Second Amendment to protect yourself from this radical left.

Speaker 33 (02:53:51):
You know, this is the problems that we're seeing being
eclipsed at this point. Didn't just start, you know, they start.
I mean, if if anybody remembers when Donald Trump got
inaugurated in twenty seventeen, they were riding in the streets
of Washington, Yes, and burning.

Speaker 7 (02:54:12):
Things down, breaking windows. Yeah.

Speaker 33 (02:54:15):
You know that's kind of when as a nation we
started seeing this, this political violence. And yet other countries
have had.

Speaker 21 (02:54:25):
It for decades.

Speaker 7 (02:54:27):
Well, you go back to the sixties and that we've
had it there, and we had it in we we
had it in the thirties with the with with the
market going down and uh you know, so let me
let me, let's switch switch horses here RFK. I know

(02:54:50):
we got only a couple of minutes. So I'd like
your your reflection on the trouble he had with Congress
and his appointees and should he opted for you.

Speaker 21 (02:55:03):
Well, the problem was I'm warned him about Heather and
Hannah and and Stephanie. Stephanie's still there, which is his
uh chief of Staffie Stephanie Spear.

Speaker 27 (02:55:17):
Uh.

Speaker 21 (02:55:17):
She she uh is his chief of staff. She's uh
a activist and and she is a Democrat and doesn't
believe in anything that that Trump has and would work
against anything. But you know what we have to do
is is we just have to keep praying and hoping

(02:55:39):
that things keep going. He keeps doing what he's trying
to do. He's gone out against the uh pharmaceutical companies,
He's coming out against these vaccines. He's trying to do
the thing there the same as with President Trump. You know,
they're they're all doing what we've asked them to do

(02:56:00):
and what we've asked for the appointments to do.

Speaker 8 (02:56:04):
Uh.

Speaker 21 (02:56:04):
Sergio Gore was was released, you know, and and Susie
Wilds needs to go and and President Trump's administration and stuff.
But uh, and she's still there. And these are these
are products Casey means and CALLI means the same thing.
All of these people need to leave and get out
of our federal government because they are not helping the

(02:56:28):
and not for the American people. So this is something
that you know, I applaud uh Bobby doing what he's
doing and keeping what he's doing. I just decided that
we're going to go in a different direction. We're going
to do this in the private sector. We're going to
change things, and we're going to make this where we

(02:56:50):
can get control of the medical field, uh and the insurance,
which is what I told them that we could do,
and that isn't that's not something that has happened. And
I think government's going to be too slow.

Speaker 7 (02:57:04):
That's positive energy AZ dot com right, thank you. How's
it going.

Speaker 21 (02:57:14):
We're working away and meetings and everything, and hopefully very
soon we're going to be able to uh purchase our
first hospital and we'll we'll get this thing going.

Speaker 7 (02:57:24):
All right, Well, I wish you're the best of luck.
Maybe I'll give you a call and see, uh see
about personal involvement and stuff like that. I know you
talk to my daughter Sarah. Is that correct?

Speaker 21 (02:57:35):
Yes, we can.

Speaker 33 (02:57:37):
We are working with her as well as another veterans organization, Okay,
because one of the things that we can help out
with is providing them a way to navigate through the
medical process to ensure that they get the best care possible.

Speaker 7 (02:57:55):
Well, I wish you, I wish you all the luck
in the world, and I'll call you separately and and
ask you a questions about it. So other than Dave
Weinbaum show, where can people find both of you?

Speaker 21 (02:58:11):
Well, I always tell I always tell everybody make sure
you go to gifts and go uh dot com forward
slash ryan Zinc. To try to help him with his case.
That's we're trying to move forward.

Speaker 7 (02:58:25):
To how's that going real quick?

Speaker 4 (02:58:26):
How's that going slowly?

Speaker 33 (02:58:29):
Yeah, I mean it's a strategy, you know, so certain
things need to happen to see what in what direction
the strategy needs to go. But I'd like to point
out that he's already been bribed.

Speaker 21 (02:58:44):
To just go away.

Speaker 7 (02:58:45):
Yeah, five minutes he refused that.

Speaker 33 (02:58:48):
He's absolutely not. This isn't a yeah, this isn't so
much about the JA six as about the American people
and their rights.

Speaker 7 (02:58:58):
All right, well, listen, I gotta go. It's getting to
be last minute of the show. Thank you so much
for being guests on the Dave wineboumb Show. And you're
always welcome whether you come and visit or not. Okay,
thank you, my friend, Yes, thank you very much. I
appreciate that you want.

Speaker 10 (02:59:19):
To take a second least to ask me, though she
had to leave. I mean, try to put the flyer up.
Bill Hardwick will be a city of light life ministries
next Tuesday, right around six o'clock. They're asking for a
lot of conservatives come out because a lot of liberals
trying to take over these meetings, so.

Speaker 7 (02:59:35):
Please acount support. Okay, thanks, thanks guys. Well, I got
twenty seconds left and I had a think for the
secret to a rich life as they have more beginnings
and endings. They probably didn't hear that, but okay, listen.
Thanks a lot. It's a tough show to do today
and I got tears in my eyes. I'll be back

(02:59:57):
with another edition of the Dave Winebomb Show next Friday.

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Right now then you gotta teach you about freedo.