Jack Lawson’s Civil Defense Manual Returns with a Vengeance Amid a Nation on the Brink

     He’s back—Jack Lawson, the fearless voice of survival, storms onto the scene with Civil Defense Manual, a a revamped new website, and a stockpile of three tons of books ready to arm Americans with the knowledge to face the chaos ahead.
     After a maddening four-month blackout blamed on DEI disasters at his distributor, Lawson’s breaking free from the shackles of Big Tech censorship—Amazon’s ‘Communist Commissar’ crew axed his account, but they can’t stop him now!
     With a Substack to rally the troops, Lawson’s not just selling books—he’s igniting a movement. As he warns of a ‘Fourth Turning’ crisis barreling toward 2029, with economic collapse and war looming, he’s arming patriots with free resources and a Certified American program to rebuild a civil defense from scratch.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Well, welcome back. And it's great to have Jack Lawson back.
And it's even better to have Civil Defense Manual back.
And it's not only back, but he's got a brand
new website. He's got new books that are there. He's
got a new substack as well. He wrote this to me.
He says people have been seeing the out of stock
when they go to the website for so long. He said,
I think they stopped checking. He said, would you show

(00:29):
what we've got and show that Travis show the shipment
of books that he's got there. He said, we've got
three tons of books and we're in the process of
filling the back orders. He said. The outage of books
has been a whopping four months and ten days since
all of this. DEI people had screwed this up at
his distributor. They told me all of a sudden, said, oh,

(00:53):
we just realized we got no stock. Why did you
stock on all this stuff? So he's taking care of that.
He's got I guess you're doing the distribution of itself.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Jack. But the he's got a.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
New website, he's got more books, he's got a substack link,
and it's good to have him back. Thank you for
joining us, Jack, tell us a little bit about that.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Good to be in your show again, David, thank.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
You, Yeah, tell us a little bit about that, Jack
loss In Books, it's a great website and it's got
a lot of different things there. You got a couple
of new books as well as Civil Defense Manual.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
I've wrote. I wrote those books quite quite a while ago.
One's about one's my very first book. It's a novel.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Sorry, it's a novel.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
My son calls it the Encyclopedia. It's a historical novel.
The other one is a book called The Slaver's Wheel
about Colonel Sully Defontaine would like a father to me.
I met him by running across one of his friends
in Africa. And the long and short of it is

(01:58):
Amazon I called the Communist Commissar Censoring Committee for some
reason didn't like the content of my books and deleted
my account. Wow, something to the effect. And my books
didn't meet their criteria. Well, they apparently didn't read the
first one. But the longest short of it is they're

(02:20):
in the process of being printed. They'll be up and running.
I have the Civil Defense Back Manual back. I'm still
astounded and dumbfounded that they them or whatever the pronouns
were they were sent to me. They cant couldn't see
when they pushed their cart by to take orders that

(02:43):
there weren't hundreds of books there. There was nothing there.
So whoever they hired, apparently it's got blinders on or
can't count what I am in the process of doing.
There is no civil defense system in this country, so
I've started one. I'm in the process of doing video

(03:06):
streaming on different books that people can look at on
our computer. And we have what we call the Certified
American Program. Why do I have this because there is
no civil defense. There's FEMA, and everybody's got a pretty
good idea what they're capable of. After the hurricane.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Another d I agree with Yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
I mean I get up in the morning, David, and
I starting to feel like one of those twenty one
million Americans getting Social Security that's getting close to two
hundred at Creek more every time I get out. But
the long and short of it is that there's nothing
out there. I have a lot of free resources. If
they go to www dot jacklowsonbooks dot com, there's a

(03:58):
lot of information on her putting more and more on
every day. I'm giving this away. Why because I'm more
than interested in more than just selling book. I'm interested
in the future of this country. I had a talk
with a very powerful person yesterday, very wealthy person. He

(04:21):
is a Korean War veteran. He's a retired colonel. He
was an attorney for thirty five years in the Swamp,
and he was one of Trump's security directors. And he says,
this next four years is going to be the most
tumultuous period in the history of this country since the

(04:42):
Civil War.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
I've been saying that for a long time. And you know,
it's interesting because the Fourth Turning. I don't know if
you're familiar with that book by Strauss and Howe, But
everybody talks about all these different generations, the millennials, this
and that, and the ex generation so forth, and everybody's
using all of their labels, but nobody wants to talk
about the fact that we're in the midst of a
fourth turning right now, and we've got these These next

(05:07):
four years are the tail end of it. These guys
said in the early nineteen nineties, like nineteen ninety two,
nineteen ninety three, they said, something's going to happen worldwide
in two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight, which
is about fifteen years ahead of when it happened. That'll
be financial, that'll kick off the fourth turning, and it'll
probably finish up sometime around twenty twenty nine. And lo

(05:28):
and behold, the UN's got its twenty thirty world all
planned out and all the rest of this stuff, and
all these fourth turnings are massive economic stuff, usually accompanied
by a war. And the previous two here, well, previous
three in America were World War two and the Great
Depression prior to that Civil War, prior to that American Revolution.
So yeah, I agree, it absolutely is there, and anybody

(05:51):
that's paying attention has got to see this and they
has got to start preparing. And Civil Defense Manual is
a key part of it. You know, we talk about
having money that's going to be outside of it their
system that's physical, but you also need to be able
to have skills as well as supplies, and that's really
where your book comes in.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yes, I don't think the general American public, well I
know they don't. The general American public thinks since number
forty seven's taken office, the new administrations there musk Is
is investigating and finding that all of this money that

(06:29):
was literally stolen. It's so bizarre. Some of the things
they're spending it for, that's hard to even remember them.
But these people are dug in like a North Carolina tick.
They are not going to go away very easily.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
So lot and I know what that's like because we
used to live in North Carolina. We used to have
to get those North Carolina takes out of our kids.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
My son went to Scout sniper school in the Marine
Corps there, and I bought him a new I bought
him a stainless Marine Corps what's called a k bar knife.
It's a common knife tick area. And I said, how's
your knife holding up? And he says, you mean the
stainless stainless steel one, Dad, And I said, yeah, that one.

(07:13):
He said, well, there's nothing that's stainless steel in North Carolina.
And anyway, some some sailor and amphibious ships stole it
from him. But the longest short of there's there's trouble coming.
I just I get a daily briefing. I subscribed to

(07:34):
something called Forward Observer, and this morning I couldn't count
all of the protests going on now. Two months ago
there were four or five. It's over two hundred now
and these are large share, These are testa protests. Uh,
these people just haven't gotten out in the street yet.

(07:56):
They're throwing moles off cocktails at dealerships, but they haven't
gotten on the street. All we need is a trigger
incident and they'll be out in the street again.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Oh, absolutely, absolutely, That's.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
What people have to try to prepare to protect themselves with.
Get together with their neighbors and get to know their
neighbors and get to talking about what are we going
to do if somebody comes in the neighborhood. That's right.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah, when you look at the way that they settle
their grievances, we've seen this with them and awake of
the Supreme Court abortion decision, why they do they started
throwing molotov cocktails in crisis pregnancy centers or churches, or
vandalism or things like that, and that's what we're seeing.
We're seeing vandalism even and it's so misdirected. It's not
even going after you know, some of them have burned

(08:49):
up dealerships and charging stations, which again is not an
appropriate protest at all. But They have gone after people
just because they've got a tesla. They don't know what
the politics of that person even is. And they've shown
pictures of some of the people who have had their
cars vandalized. One of them was a woman in a
wheelchair and they vandalized her car. They don't know or

(09:09):
care what her politics are. And that's what we're looking at.
That kind of insanity that can come after anybody. You
don't have to do anything to get them offended. They
can become offended by the by nothing. I've got a
comment here on Rumble from Dustin Helmet. So I just
bought the books. It's hoping that they would come back
in stock soon. So now you're shipping right, correct, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
We bought We bought a shipping system, the computers rate
we needed, and we're doing it ourselves.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
I mean, that's the message of your book, isn't it.
You got to do it?

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, you know, and other people don't rely on anyone else.
You're on your own, that's right. I think that people
lose sight of the insanity of these people, the corruption
in their minds, their logics, or I know I have
three of them in my family. Sixty one blood and adopted.

(10:06):
I've got three of them that basically turned Minnesota, did
a large share of it into what it is right now.
And I was astounded to see. I mean, how many
more governors and bureaucrats do we have that are like
this governor of Minnesota. Oh, you have a Chinese Communist

(10:29):
Party office in Saint Paul, Minnesota. I read that the
other day and I was just floored.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Well, I've got people in our family, and of course
they're typically they're involved in education, because that's that's really
where the mind virus isn't culcated in people at these
in doctrination centers, and it only gets worse if you
go through it and then you get right back out
and come back in as a teacher and start teaching again.
It seems like, I don't know, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
It's they can't tie their own shoes. They haven't been
five hundred miles from home. But I used to. I
just don't bother to talk to them anymore. The minds
are so screwed up you can't even reason with them.
There's a saying the inmates are running the asylum. Well,
they were under forty six, now trump forty seven. They're

(11:16):
not running it right now, and they are like spol children.
They're angry, they're looking to get their pound of flesh
from someone. Oh yeah, and that's the American public. That's
a traditional you know, one thing I'd really like to dispill.
I want to psychological operations training. It's the britty version

(11:36):
of Fort Bragg Special Forces. And one of the first
things they do is make sure people think you're bigger
than you are. I'm convinced this is only about fifteen
percent of the population that thinks this way, and that's
justified as a logical statement because of the election results

(11:58):
last time. So the long short of it is is
they're not fifty percent, they're fifteen percent. That's my belief,
and I think that is true, you know, with their sympathizers,
but fifteen percent.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
I agree, And I think that's true in so many
different areas that they want to look bigger than they
really are. I remember the story going back to the
Civil War, of the early days of Civil War. There's
a Confederate general and he was vastly outnumbered by all
these people, and so there was a little clearing there
where they could see the troops and other places where
they could see he just marched his troops around in

(12:32):
a circle, and they thought he had a much larger army,
and they held off attacking him. He gets some reinforcements,
but I think that's really well, that's.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Called the indirect approach I have in this book. Good. Yeah,
basically not having contact. But there's you read history about strategies,
and there's some huge armies that totally outnumbered and a
defending force, and a defending force in one case marched

(13:04):
around in circles with this heavily armed unit following them
until they wore themselves out, and then the little unit
attack them and beat them, you know. And it's a
number of different simple tactics I have. I make this
book so people can understand what goes through the mind
of people that are on the battlefield, because if things

(13:28):
go crazy, which they're already crazy, but if they get
to we have civil unrest, you're going to have to
use things like this to defeat and hold your area,
to keep them from burning your house down. Yeah, first
they'll ask for food, then they'll demand food, then they'll
kick your door down, and then the process probably kill

(13:49):
you and your family and turn your family and you
into toasts. Burning your house.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Down, you know, and you've had experience with that and
the Marxists in Africa and things like that, and and
certainly you know the other books that you've got there.
The subtitle of that one was the Slaver's Wheel. Subtitle
was the Green Berets story was classified to Mission in Africa.
It's it's it's very interesting, uh in the Congo. Very

(14:18):
interesting to see these stories there as well. But that's
that's where you draw your experience from. Travis was saying,
as we're talking about the college stuff, he says, yeah,
when you pay those expensive tuition fees in college, you're
literally buying into the propaganda they're gonna ra away with you. Yeah,
but you know there everybody is pushing towards war now,

(14:40):
it seems like. And the Europeans, even as there's talk
about peace in Ukraine, they don't want to have it.
Zelenski is saying he doesn't want to have it, and
europe A Chorus is pushing on that, and the Trump
administration continues to push them to rearm. Germany is talking
about spending well over a trillion dollars, which is so
out of character for Germany. They've been so jealous of

(15:05):
staying out of debt, and here they're going to saddle
themselves with over trillion dollars worth of debt so they
can rebuild a military. As one person's commentary yesterday I
talked about and the guy said, didn't we do that
before once? How did that work out? We just always
have the Germans screaming about the Weimar Republican hyperinflation, and
we saw what happened when they went into massive debt

(15:26):
and built a massive army. Do we really want to
do that again? But you've got the European officials now
telling people, well, you need to get seventy two hours
worth of food and water and things like that. They're
not even telling people anywhere close to what they need
to be able to survive.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
There need a lot more than that. I don't know
where this war thanks is going to go. I know
that your listeners should know. I went through nuclear weapons
training when I was in the American Air Force, and
I actually was the one in my squadron with the
most electronics training, So yours truly was sitting on top

(16:06):
of the W forty thermonuclear bomb with my butt right
on the thing. Army and disarming the thing. Yeah, well
I wasn't I didn't have a cowboy hat.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
But make sure you don't hit the the release door
on it.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah yeah, yeah, that thing was in a shelter. It
was in a missile shelter. And uh so I went
through training on the MAD doctrine, which MAD stands for
m a D stands for mutual assured destruction, absolute lunacy.
I think I got depressed from it. I couldn't think

(16:49):
about anything else for the longest time and how crazy
it would be. Now that's the nuclear war is still
a strong possibility. I go through in my book how
to survive it. It's quite simple. There's two rules. You
go by the seven to ten rule in the erinverse
square rule. I'm not going to explain him, but in

(17:10):
the book it tells you simply what you have to do.
It is survivable. People think that every nuclear explosion is
like Chernobyl, It's going to be forever. It is not
going to be forever. It's going to burn off where
I live in the Southwest. If they bombed Los Angeles
by the time that gets to my house fallout you

(17:36):
it would be one tenth of the amount of radiation
coming off you can protect. It's very survivable and you
don't need gas masks. Geger Kanner's all this stuff. It's
quite easy to survive against it. But we're possibly depending.
I don't know. The Europeans don't have very much as

(17:57):
far as any military. They send all their stuff Ukraine
for the Russians to destroy.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
With drones. Yeah, for the most part that they low
tech drones and wipe out the.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
One hundred dollar drone they destroy a fifty million dollar tank. Yeah,
and it shows the fallacy of American military equipment. You know,
we spend ten times as much for something that doesn't work,
and the other side spends one tenth of what we
spend and they've got very effective weapons.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yes, yes, that's true. Yeah, they need your book in Europe.
We need to get the word out to them. As
a matter of I got a lot of people who
bought the coin all over the world. They everybody needs
to have this book, and you put it out in
a two volume book.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
And it's physical because that's really key and a lot
of these disasters people are not going to have internet service.
I mean, we just saw that in western North Carolina
with you know, other places like that where the natural
disaster comes. Even if it's a natural disaster, usually you
don't have electricity. So it's good to have that. It's
good to have that knowledge. It's good to set up
those skills, to have those relationships in place before something happens.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yes, and I tell people in the front of the
book to get a large ziploc bag, throw a candle
and some matches in there, because you might be reading
by candlelight. I put the book in large font so
it's easy to read in low light conditions. And you

(19:30):
know there's trouble coming. People need to do one thing,
and that's store food and store water. And that's the
biggest thing that I talk about to people, is storing
food and water and life sustaining medicines. There's all kinds

(19:52):
of companies out there if you want to learn to shoot,
I've got huge amounts of material in the book as
far as surviving a gun battle. Again, your readers should
know that I was in a foreign legion and a
terrorist unit in a gorilla war in Africa for two
and a half years, and I put my experiences and

(20:15):
I didn't survive because I was a good soldier. I
call I call I've got a story I gotta tell
you about a little later. But I've got stories in
the book just to break it up. One of them
is my excellent black African shell and he was a guy.
He was a guy in my commando unit. And it's

(20:38):
it's just it blows me away when I think back
of that. How many times the Good Lord told me? Uh,
And I didn't even think it back then. But like
a friend of mine said the other day, he said, Lawson,
you two Bible study groups. What's going on? You know?

(21:01):
And I go to us on their their combat veterans,
and I I really enjoy these people. I don't even
know if I like some of them, but I trust
every one of them to watch my back. And I'm
just astounded by what is in the good book. This

(21:21):
is my second read. The first one went on when
my mom told me to go to Sunday school with
the threat of water boarding me. If I didn't, you know, anyway,
I have to go. I gotta divert and tell tell
you something that happened. Sure. Uh, my mother in law

(21:42):
was in. My wife is from Africa. She's British place
called Rhodesia, which is Zimbabwe now we got her mother
out of there, his father died, and we got her
to South Africa. She lived there for four years. Then
that started going down the toilet. And it's it's just uh,

(22:04):
I think Trump said to use the word shite hole anyway,
that's what they are. It's just absolutely they've destroyed the country,
not because they're black, because the Communists are running there,
and it's it's just putting undue pressure and suffering on
both black and white over there.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
And of course the communists always love to divide and conquer.
They'll divide you by economic class, or they'll do it
by race, and so that is really what they're working on.
And the same thing here.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
So we get my mother in law six years ago,
we get her to the United States and we get her,
we sponsor her, which we're allowed to do, and we
get her over here. You have to understand the British.
I've often said Americans make good citizens, British make good subjects.
Because it's the bottom line. She's a beautiful woman in

(23:03):
her mid eighties, aerobics instructor, very fit. Two years ago,
she got all the COVID shots. Get the government said,
get the COVID shots and the Brits do pretty much
what the government tells you to do. They're very compliant
with the government. They believe that they got their best

(23:23):
interests in mind, which anybody has taken history class apparently
failed it. If they think the government's going to do it,
any good for you.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
It was an excellent Let me interject there. There was
an excellent animated film I remember back in the nineteen
eighties or nineties called When the Wind Blows, and it
was this animated film and this British couple and it's
a nuclear war and they're going by the government's handout
as to what's going to happen, and so you have
this whole thing. They're so incredibly naive and you're watching

(23:54):
them slowly die because everything the government told them to
do was wrong. But yeah, when I when you say
they'll follow the government whatever the government says, made me
think of that. If people have not seen.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
That, yeah, that's exactly what they do. You know, they
do that and just about everything. So we get my
mother in law over here and she stays between our
house and the other sister, my wife's sister's house. We
give her living quarters with feeder, take care of her

(24:27):
and she got all the COVID shots because they said
to get to COVID shots. And then all of a sudden,
her toes started turning black. We took her in, I
got madden hell at her. I said, you're gonna get
gang green. We took her to a doctor. After three
different doctors, Well, we don't know what it is, so

(24:49):
they gave her some antibiotics. Coincidentally, the clots went away.
Her toes are getting filled with blood clots. Yeah, so
she goes from that to two years later, all of
her toes turned black on the right foot. Well, they
removed them all and they had three vascular surgeons, and

(25:10):
they kept calling vascular surgeons in because I think they
knew what was going on. It was a result. One
of them finally told us this, but it was a
COVID vaccine. Yeah, So then they they took her right
toes off, and they took her left toes off. They
start turned black. Then the next thing we knew. Two

(25:32):
months later they removed the right leg up to mid thigh,
and then another month later they removed her left leg
all the way to her hip. The fear was gangrene
from these clots, and my wife and I know exactly
what it is, but now we got to call yesterday

(25:54):
they're going to take her right hand off. You know,
it's so upsetting because this woman is like she's being tortured.
She is probably and people out there that have mother
in laws, guys like me that don't like him. She's
the perfect mother in law. She's my little Jewish princess,
even though she's older than me. I just I love her.

(26:16):
She's she's so polite, and we've got her an assistant
living home now. But I don't know how much this
stuff is going on in the country. But finally we
had a doctor say it's caused by the COVID. Now,
I suppose he could get fired for that, But like
Robert Kennedy Junior says, we need to have a national

(26:38):
discussion on this thing. It's people. The doctors are definitely
afraid to say anything.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Well, he needs to stop it. He's in a position
now where he could stop it. You know, we don't
need any more data. We need somebody who's going to
take action on it. He needs to do something to
stop that. It's just yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Guess there's people out there in universities and institutions that
are still telling you to go out and get a COVID,
get the tents vaccine. This is absolute insanity. We've had
friends die from a thirty three years old weightlifters fit
all of a sudden, go to bed and Tuesday light,
Wednesday morning, their room temperature, don't smoke, don't drink, don't

(27:20):
take any drugs legal or illegal, and they die of
a heart deck. How often did that happen before?

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Now they're doing They're having kids in school, in high
school and even younger have to take electro cardiograms in
order to be able to participate. That's never happened before.
And you know, this has been going on for the
longest times, just watching this roll out in slow motion,
and nobody has the courage to stand up and do
anything about it in government, and it appears to be

(27:49):
that they have to essentially take an oath of loyalty
to the pharmaceutical companies in order to get any kind
of position in there. You so, what happened with the
one guy, Dave Walden? They replaced him now with somebody
who is fully on board with all vaccines, including COVID stuff,
and is going to push us towards AI being inserted
in health. She's got deep connections into the intelligence stuff.

(28:11):
So yeah, people have to have to do this on
their own.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, this is so upsetting. My wife's been crying here
all day. You know what's my mother and all going
to end up with no arms, no legs. It's just hot.
It's just it's atrocious. I don't know if you know
anything about this. I read something to the effect one
of the whistleblowers from a pharmaceutical company that was involved

(28:37):
in making these vaccines says that the end of twenty
twenty five there's going to be a cascading massive people dying.
He said, there's some kind of time clock. What do
you know about that.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
I don't know, But I know when you're talking about
blood cloths and things like that, because I have APHEB
and there's a chance of that causing a stroke that
I don't want to take the pharmaceutical anticoagulants and things
like that, And I don't know what these clots if
it would be successful, because a lot of these clots
when they have done autopsies, you know, they find that

(29:12):
it's this white fibrous stuff. But there are some things
out there, like broken A'SE and natocina's that are natural
anticagulant coagulants that I don't know if that would help
her or not, But I'm not a doctor, but I
that's the kind of stuff that I take instead of taking.
They're really dangerous pharmaceutical antiquagulants because they always have some

(29:35):
horrific side effect. Since we last talked to you had
had one of my sons was given a incredibly dangerous
concentrated antibiotic when he had an issue and could have
given him something like a zithromyocin. Instead, they gave him
this flora chlora quinolone and it's a floxin poison that

(29:59):
has been going back cipro has been going on for
decades and the FDA won't do anything to stop it.
And so you know, he was bedridden for for months
and he is still not really able to walk much
and it's just completely destroyed his life. And that's an antibotic,
you know. And so that's the key thing, you know,

(30:19):
is all of this pharmaceutical stuff that is out there,
it's just it's poison.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah, it's it. They've been bought off. The whole thing
is our money going to people that are running things
like the FDA. Yeah, they go from there to be
a board director for two million dollars a year. They've
got all kinds of plants to get in the agency.

(30:47):
They left all kinds of contexts of authority. Basically, they're
a con do it to get things done that shouldn't
be done. That's right.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
I say that the FDA stands for free to do anything.
You know, Rather than regulating these companies, they leave them
free to do anything they wish make money, and then hey,
when I get out of this position, I'll join you,
which is what we saw happened with the previous heads
of the FDA under Trump. You know, both of them.
One of them goes modernity, the other one goes to visor.
They greased all that stuff. So yeah, it's it's yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
I strongly recommend any of your listeners that are inclined
to think that this COVID vaccine tenth booster is going
to do them any good, do not get them. I've
read that there's some type of nano bot they're coming
out with. God only knows that that's going to do

(31:41):
with your body, but it's supposed to clear the spike
proteins from your body. I don't know. I'm not a
doctor either, but I am getting very disturbed with what
I feel is a lack of ethics, literally on morals
in the medical community.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Oh, it's gone.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
It's just horrible.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
You know. I had questions about this from the very beginning.
I just played a clip this last week of our
n who is suffering from this and her body is
still producing the spike protein fifteen hundred days later. And
I said that from the very beginning, I said, you know,
when moderna comes, Trump sets them up in a little presentation,
how long is it going to take you? Now, that's
too long. Well, I can do it faster. Now that's

(32:25):
still too long. And he finally gets to the other
guys at the end where he's got this all programmed out,
and they say, well, we can do it right now.
We can turn your body into a vaccine manufacturing facility.
And so when I looked at the way they describe
the way this thing worked, I said, how how do
you turn this off? Well, turns out you don't. And
so that's one of the key issues that is happening

(32:47):
with it. Yeah, and you go back and look at
degal dot com. I mean, these people the stuff all
planned out.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
I think, Yeah, they're coming out with a lot of
injectibles to replace medicine's least the vas and I refuse
to take them. I know, if I have an adverse
reaction to a pill they gave me, I can quit
taken it that day. But once you get two weeks
of the pill in you, how do you get out

(33:14):
of your body if you're having a problem with it?

Speaker 1 (33:16):
You know, that's right, And all the stuff that they
do is just getting more and more concentrated. I mean,
even like the antibiotics that are there on Rumble I
have MAV twenty twenty two says one of my best
friends just dropped dead on a zoom call because of
those clots. Wow, truly is amazing. But you know when
you're talking about will yeah go ahead.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
No, Well we'll see where this goes. But the insanity
is still out there. Yeah. I've got an African American
friend because of the in Zimbabwe, and she's from there,
and this is how crazy things are getting. She put
a comment about it's good to see Doge and Ellen

(34:02):
Musk finding out all of the money that's literally been
stolen from people. So the next thing is she gets
a comment from somebody that had an Asian Indian sounding name,
and they said they apparently looked into her Facebook account

(34:22):
and found out she was from Africa. And this comment was,
well go back to Africa and take Ellen Musk with you.
And so she got mad, this is unsolicited, just a
provocative comment, and she said, we assuming this lady was
from India, well why don't you go back to India.

(34:46):
You're not wanted here. So the next thing is the
person that put the provocative statement deleted it so you
couldn't see it. Found out where this woman worked, got
hold of her company. Her boss fired her, she fired
They fired her before they talked to her, and so

(35:07):
she had a big to do with them. She said,
you don't even know. You're only getting half the story.
So anyway, the long short of it is is she
went to another company. They hired her. They said, you know,
we've got another person that had the exact same thing
happened to them. They just want to work there. And
it was a Muslim woman. And so this got to

(35:32):
be a real circus. And I told her, I said,
you know, I closed my faithbook account, get your stuff back,
get off of it, and it's just gotten to be
I call it, you know, maybe this isn't something you
agree with, but I call it. Satan's computer system literally

(35:53):
antagonizes people to the point that after this happened. I'm
talking to another author, Matt Bracken on Florida to talk
to him for an hour a half last Sunday, and
he's an expert on this because he's been suspended or
kicked off everybody's website. And he said, Jack, that is

(36:13):
a bot. I said, what do you mean. He said,
they are paying people to go out and send these
bots that they aren't even human, but they have a
human overseer and they're just trying to stir up as
much trouble, said left wing lunatics. You know again the
inmates a running the asylum.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Well, and it's only going to get worse because we're
going to have artificial intelligence is going to go out
and make these determinations about you based on your content
that's on social media, and they will label or stigmatize you.
And it won't just be that, it'll be geospatial intelligence
that they've been working on since the late nineteen nineties,
the fastest growing part of intelligence, where they look at
your patterns and other things like that, just like they

(36:55):
did the people who are in Washington, DC on January sixth.
They put a geofence around that, but they can and
look at that and collate that with their surveillance techniques,
and they can determine what your politics are, what your
religion is, and all the rest of this stuff, and
if they don't like it, then they can come after you.
That's going to be the world that we're going to
live in, and that's going to be an essential part
of preparation and survival as well. That's going to be

(37:18):
I guess what we call that information awareness because they
want to they want total information awareness. So we have
to be aware of what information they want to get
from us.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Right. One of my friends used to be one of
the big mucky muck directors of department on A Homeland
services and he was telling me about the surveillance they
were doing back well, he quit in twenty nineteen. He said,

(37:49):
the things that were going on there, he just didn't
want to stay there anymore. Oh yeah, he said they
were bordering on being treasonous.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Yes, and so, oh, I think they passed up order
a long time ago. Yeah, it's yeah, things are just.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
He said, is beyond your comprehension, he said, And he said,
I quit six years ago, and he said, I don't
even know what it's like now. But this is going
to move from a keyboard or AI to the tesla
it's gone, and to the streets at some point. This
is far from over. These people are not going to

(38:30):
give up, and they've got a lot of money behind him.
I often wonder how much this money has disappeared, is
sitting in slush funds. I know one Baptist group, it
was a church group, and I'm not beating up on Baptists,
but they got a ten point seven million dollar bone grant.

(38:50):
You get some money's just given to them. And four
years later, after the Biden administration, this group had over
eight hundred million dollars in a slush fund. How much
that is going on in the country. Somebody's funding this
stuff even though Trump's cutting it off. The fact that

(39:11):
he cuts it off, I don't know, do they need
congressional approval? Where is this going to go? Is it
gonna stay cut off or well?

Speaker 1 (39:19):
You know, you just had a situation like that. It
was a charitable aid that was being spent by Smaritan ministries.
That's Franklin Graham's thing. And they were supposed to be
reimbursed by US A I D. Which I've always I
thought is just synonymous with the CIA, because it is.
But anyway, a judge comes back and says, no, you
can't cut that funding. And so then they were able

(39:40):
to get that money. That money was not going to
go to them, and then that became a news story.
But here's the thing. You know a lot of people
want to excuse what Trump did. They'll always say, well,
he didn't do it, it was the governor's he didn't
know he paid them to do it. And that's the
way the presidents always operate. They don't want to give
a direct order because people will challenge that in court
with the tenth Amendment. So what they do is bribe
and they blackmail people for the money. So it's amazing

(40:02):
to me to see that these judges are are pulling
back Trump not spending money. Right, That's the kind of interesting.
Congress can allocate the money, but the executive does not
have to spend it. Trump has used it as a
weapon to spend or to not spend. Obama has done
the same thing Biden has done that.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
They all do that.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
They all say, well, I'm going to cut off your
title line funding if you don't put the boys in
the girls bathroom. They all do that. And yet now
you've got these judges out there saying that you have
to give the money out on USA ideas, it's crazy
or you.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
They put an order out send the two astronauts back
into space yea two they just rescued. It's just it's
absolute lunacy. I think they need to close some of
these judge ships and just shut them down. They I
can't believe they've got that many judges that are supposed

(40:59):
to be impartial that are so political. But that's that's
the point of case. I'd like to go over a
couple things sure as far as this book. My number
one preaching point again is store food and water, store

(41:19):
Life's to say, life, sustainable medicines. I've got a list
of things that people go to that they can look
into it. It's what I call my new home for
the Civil Defense Manual jacklossanbooks dot com. But I would
like people to look at what is in the Civil
Defense Manual. Yes, I think they'll find literally the a

(41:41):
to z of survival if you know what's in this
book and you can get the cooperation of your neighbors
or as I know, some people have their own private
security for and that is this. They run into like

(42:03):
minded people, young guys, most of them looking for Afghan
and are rocky vets, and they say, bring your wife,
your girlfriend, your kids, whatever, bring them to our house.
You're gonna have to sleep in the floor, but we'll
have food and water for you. And they pile enough
food up to where they can take care of four

(42:25):
or five different people. The point that I make in
my book, which is a cash and stone, I don't
recommend people going out and going remote. That's just asking
for problems. I'll liken it to this. People got to
think last time they went camping with their kids and

(42:47):
they got out there and what they forgot, which was
just about everything. And the long and short thing is
if people go remote, there's another thing. Wherever they go,
there's going to be some people clothes by. Eventually, these
people who are living out there because they don't want
to be around people are going to see this family

(43:08):
that's out there as nothing but rodents. Potentially they're going
to be over to their house asking for food and water,
and they're eventually going to probably try to take it. Now,
outside of storing food in the house and staying in
your neighborhood, which I advocate, you have way more resources
in your neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
And so you're talking about this in terms of, you know,
somebody has a bug out bag, and you know they've
got maybe some remote location that they hardly ever go to,
and so you know, something happens, and I think maybe
if it's a natural disaster, that's a good plan, but
if it's you know, something else, that's not necessarily a
good plan because there's a lot of risk on the

(43:48):
travel as well as once they get there, they don't
know anybody.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Right. The point is, David, how are you going to
get out of some of these metro areas. You're not
going to be able to get out of there, That's right.
Las Vegas did a study I told you about this
one before. They randomly stopped one thousand vehicles. Unless somebody's
really impaired, they knew they were drinking or on drugs.
They didn't do anything to them, but they did one thing,

(44:13):
and one thing only. How much gas you got in
your car? And they came up with those thousand cars
at an average of three eighths of one tank a
little over a quarter of a tank of gasoline. Now
you're going to go out of town one hundred miles,
how far are you going to get before the freeway
looks like a parking lot from people running out of gas,

(44:36):
cars breaking down general traffic. We had an experience. How
are you going to get to your bug out location?
You're not?

Speaker 1 (44:43):
We had an experience with that. We went up one
just before Thanksgiving once and we were going up to
Niagara Falls, and so we were going through Buffalo where
they have a lot of snow, and they had a
record snowfall for a twenty four hour period and it
happened all at once. And so even though the people
there have a lot of snow removal equipment, even though

(45:05):
they're experienced with it, and even though you got a
lot of people who've got four wheel drive SUVs or whatever,
the roads got blocked. You know, it just took a
little one person who is like, oh, it's coming down
really fast, I got to get home. They get stuck
because they got a little tiny car. Then another person
when a little tiny car gets stuck, and before you
know it, the road was completely and we got stuck

(45:26):
in that situation. We eventually got out of it because
we picked up a guy who lived there but the
and he took us through some very back some back
roads and stuff like that. But I saw how quickly
that happened, just because not because of gas, but because
they didn't have the appropriate car to be able to
get through it, and another snow removal equipment could get there.
So that's exactly right. People are going to run out
of gas and everybody's gonna get stuck trying to get

(45:47):
out of the city. As Travis said, you're not going
to be able to escape from New York, are you?

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Well, say you do get out of the city. You
got your bar out bag, seventy two hour bag. A
lot of people call it, What are you gonna do
after seventy two hours? You can maybe stretch that bag
out if you have the discipline in the family to
five or six days, but that's about it. Then you're
gonna be looking for water, and you're gonna be looking

(46:13):
for food. And like I put in a civil defense man,
you're treating water. You're gonna look at water that looks
like it's not some kind of a beer commercial that
it's so clear, crystal clear. But you drink it, it's
gonna be like some water I drank in Africa. I
had a dead monkey in it. I didn't know it
had a dead monkey in till one of the guys
removed the pump cover or the float cover from the thing.

(46:36):
And I wish you had to drank it. The black
guys with me, they're all peachy because they're used to
drinking stuff like that. Me. I won't tell you the story.
It was ghastly. But what happened to me the next
couple of days and it took me over months to
get rid of this. It was maybe dysentery. So the
water is gonna be an issue. The food's gonna be

(46:56):
an issue. You can get books, and I recommend people
have this, even if they stay in our neighborhood. On
wild Edibles, I've got all this stuff in the book.
If people go on my website and simply look at
some of the free resources, I'll tell you what you
have to do. For one thing. People have no idea

(47:20):
how important sanitation is. That's what I call that. There's
a deadly two sisters that are diseases that if you
don't have sanitation. And I'm not talking about taking care
of your garbage. I'm talking about people's bowel movements in urination.

(47:42):
It's got to be taken care of. You have to
do it in specific places. It cannot get into water supplies.
You also have to bury your cans, your containers and stuff,
because you've got to remember you're out in the wild.
You're not in your area. You're in wildlife jungle area. Literally,
I don't care where you're go in this country. I

(48:02):
can go out in the desert here and I'm in
wildlife area. There's coyotes out there, there's mountain lions out there.
There's all kinds of issues, and they're looking for something
to eat too. People can get a lot of this
and the free resources, and I encourage people to go

(48:22):
into jacklosson books dot com and look at some of
this stuff, read some of this stuff. People think everything's
going to go on. One of my favorite pictures in
my book is a picture of a beautiful subdivision and
it's winding street and all these picture perfect homes and
the other half of the meme is an armored vehicle

(48:47):
and three guys firing their rifles, and the captions say this,
this is what normal stability looks like. And then it says,
but this is what base humanity behavior looks like. The
guy's firing the weapons, and that's we're so fortunate in

(49:08):
this country. It's it's I feel like an insurance salesman
trying to sell them intangible because people think, oh, turn
the water tap on, waters coming out that may or
may not happen if we have enough problems in this country,
that's right.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Yeah, you're like an insurance salesman trying to sell life
insurance to a healthy twenty five year old because what
he doesn't know is that he's got cancer, you know,
and there's a cancer in this country. Regardless of what
you see happening right now, we know the direction that
this is likely going to take. And that's the real issue.
You're trying to sell insurance to people who are not

(49:47):
aware that there's a really bad disease that is going around,
and that's that's a key part of it.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Yeah, Well, that bad disease going around is corrupted logic
circuits in people's mind, you know the ones that are
But we went through this before, when Trump got into
the last time, the survival business just went on hold
of people. That's right. They weren't interesting even if this
time he's in and he's changing things. Because he's changing things,

(50:17):
there's going to be a pushback, and we haven't even
seen it yet, that's right.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Yeah, Well, you know it's always that way whenever Democrat
gets and everybody starts buying guns and where Republican gets
and nobody buys any guns or ammunition or things like that,
and it doesn't necessarily nothing is necessarily changed. And so
you know, I just saw I didn't get to it today,
but there was an article that the ATF has got
like a honeypot trap trying to put up a website

(50:43):
and think, you know, talking about how they're gonna, hey,
you want to buy this illegal item, and then once
somebody bites on that, they come swooping in on them.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
You know.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
So that kind of stuff is still going on. People think, oh,
that that isn't an issue because now Trump is in power.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Far from it. It's going to take him all of
war years to get rid of most of those people.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
Yeah, if he even wants to.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
If yeah, and if the if the Democrat of the
left gets back into power, they'll fully reverse everything right away, exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
If he takes it all out by executive order, they'll
put it all back in by executive order next time
it comes around. So you better prepare as if it's
not going to go away, because if it does, if
any of the stuff even does go away, it'll only
be temporary.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Yeah. Well, at least we haven't seen what I've seen
in some countries, and that's the car bomb. I've been
in two places where two different countries, Northern Ireland and Rhodesia,
where car bombs are set off thirty forty people killed.
And we haven't seen that. And we haven't the biggest

(51:49):
thing I know yet anyway, Yeah, not yet. The biggest
Achilles heel I believe is our vulnerable infrastructure. Shoot a
hole through a transformer at a power relay station and
you're down for the count It's too much. I explained
it in the book why this is so critical, why

(52:12):
we also probably have a big threat with the EMP.
At some point, Putin's probably going to call the German
Prime Minister and say, hey, you know that city Dresden
that was firebombed in World War Two. Well, we're going
to send a hypersonic missile over there with a conventional warhead,

(52:33):
but it's going to be a big one. And so
why don't you evacuate that city? If they attack and
get in troops on the ground over there, that place
could go up in flames. Again, I don't know what
we would do as a response, but.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Yeah, oh yeah, well you know, remember it's like a
day or two after Trump became president, he had that
stargate thing right where he brings in Larry Olsen and
he says, you know, our grid is really old and
it's very vulnerable. So you guys need to set up
your own power plant right next you know, your own
source of power right next to your manufacturing facility. It's like, oh,
so you're not going to do anything to fix to

(53:08):
fix the grid or to help its vulnerability to an
EMP attacker. And that's nice to know that you're not
even interested in it. You're going to tell all of
your pals to set up their own private power source.
But yeah, that's that's the way this is all going.
And again, anybody who trusts government, that's a real concern.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Overall.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
I've said that the problem with with Trump is that
he put a big pacifier in everybody's mouth a first term.
Now he's putting trust in and that's the big concern. Well,
thank you for joining us.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Jack.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
We're out of time, but everybody go to Jacklowson books
dot com. He's got links there to take you to
his substack. You can see free resources there. He's got
other books as well, and Civil Defensemanual dot Civil Defense
Manual is in stock and I guess they can still
get there with the old email address or old website address,

(54:01):
but seldomnsum Manuel one of your best resources you can find.
Thank you so much for joining us.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
You're welcome. Thank you, David, thank you.

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And I could if only David Knight would send me
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black T shirt with the mcguffin logo in blue. But

(54:31):
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(54:53):
just put it in the next package of bombs and
missiles coming from the USA.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Dog flows again.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
The sounding Wood