December 8, 2025 • 39 mins
Alex Newman reports from COP 30 in Brazil, where elites cut down protected rainforest to build a private road for their climate summit and draft a “carbon budget” to ration human life. He exposes how the UN’s pagan-tinged climate cult is merging with global finance, AI surveillance, and digital money schemes to enslave the world through carbon markets and censorship treaties.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Well, welcome back, and our guest is Alex Newman, Senior
editor of The New American, award winning international journalist, educator, author, speaker,
nationally syndicated radio host, and consultant. He's an award winning
international journalist, educator, and consultant. So we've had him on
many times, talking mainly about education, but we always get
(00:27):
him on every year he goes to wherever they have
these cop things. We're now up to number thirty and
this time we covered the road that they were building
for the elites to go down and cutting down massive
numbers of trees. I don't know what was it, one
hundred thousand, Alex, what'd they cut down with those trees?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, that's the number I heard as well.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
But now you know, these people are constantly flipping their story.
And it used to be that trees were our salvation
and you would pay an indulgence to pollute so they
could plant tree somewhere. But now Bill Gates wants all
the trees cut down, not used for anything, but buried
in the ground because they're going to release all that
carbon that they have absorbed. This is the most insane
(01:13):
thing I've ever seen. But there's a lot of insanity
with that. Did you get to go down that road?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Well, we wasn't ready yet, so nobody was able to
go down it, except you know, the machinery that was
building it.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
But it was quite the story, you know.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
They literally cut down an enormous swath of the rainforest
protected Virgin rainforests, was supposed to be untouchable, and they
decided that, hey, we've got a climate summit coming in
the city's not very nice. The traffic's horrendous, so why
don't we build these people some nice new roads so
they don't have to mingle with the riff raff and
(01:47):
wait in the traffic like the rest of the suckers.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
And unfortunately for the suckers.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
They actually didn't finish the road in time for the
climate something which is very typical of the socialist powers.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
That's right, So that's our salvation.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
These people can't build anything, not even a road, in
time all of this for the bent and then they
missed the time window.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
There, so they have very embarrassed about it. David.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
They actually put out military and police to try to
guard this so people couldn't get to it.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
We rented a car.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
And we snuck through the rainforest in the middle of
the night, very very late, so that we would be
able to get through there. We actually had to go
all the way out past where there's cell service, passed
where there was even a GPS reception, which I don't
even know how that works, but we did finally find it,
and we found one of the local residents that lived
in the jungle, and he was very upset. He said,
we don't need this stupid road. What we need is
water and electricity. Please, Yeah, we need water and electricity.
(02:40):
But they're building AI data centers.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
That's what we get over here about because now they
don't care about energy usage or heat generated as long
as it's for AI, because that's going to give them
their control over us.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
But tell us what else you saw there?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I mean a lot of people are saying after Bill
Gates moved back, they're saying, well, you know, this is it.
The people have basically played out all their lies and
they're on the run. Do you see that or does
it look like these people are going to still keep coming.
I think they're going to keep coming. What do you think?
Speaker 4 (03:10):
No question about it, David. I was going to say
that all of this reporting we even saw some of
it in the fake media. Oh, the climate thing was
a failure. Nothing to see here. Go back to your
regularly scheduled football games. There's nothing to worry about.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Bill Gates says it's over right. And I think Bill
Gates just made a strategic decision.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Like you said, he needs AI data centers to enslave
humanity more than he needs the climate.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Hoax at this particular moment.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
But the idea that they're going to give up the
climate hoax is utterly ludicrous. They actually did get an
agreement this year. You know, the Trump administration boycotted it.
State Department told us it was because they the conference
was designed to bankrupt the United States and we weren't
going to participate. But there was a lot in the
final agreement, David. One of the things that got in
there was the carbon budget for humanity. Turns out there
(03:54):
is a carbon budget that we can be allowed to admit.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
And this this is crazy, David. They got this in
the final tax agree to by government in the world.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
We've already gone through four fifths of it, and most
of that has come from the United States and Europe
and the West.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
And so what's left.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
The one fifth of the carbon budget that we still
have left needs to be allocated to the mass murderny
dictatorship in communist China and the Indian government and the
Brazilians and the South Africans and so on. So the
biggest that's right, and prepared to have your CO two
emissions rationed slaves because that's coming down the pike. They
got the infrastructure in there to eventually create the enforcement
(04:31):
mechan They went into this with the Marxists would be
dictator of Brazil Lula saying that he wanted to create
an enforcement body.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
He was calling it the Global Environmental Council.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
They didn't get that, but they got all of the
metrics and tools and monitoring frameworks that they'll need to
be able to get that going forward. So that was
big progress and there was also a lot of side agreements. David,
a whole bunch of US allies got together and signed
a Declaration on Information Integrity, basically promising to work together
to censor US. They got more than half of the
(05:04):
governments agreed to create a fossil fuel phase out road map,
so that were having the first meeting for that in
Columbia in April and then for me, one of the
biggest takeaways David, it always is and nobody ever pays
attention to this is the religious angle.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
You know.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
This conference to me was the place where it was
most clear. And I've been going to these for fifteen years.
We're watching here an attempt to repaganize the world. Basically,
the paradigm, David is Christianity is to blame for the
environmental and ecological catastrophe, because Christianity holds that man has
made in the image of God, that the planet is
(05:42):
here for our benefit, that we are calling Genesis to
take dominion of the planet and its animals and things
like this for our benefit and for the glory of God.
That's the reason why mother Earth is suffering so much.
And so they paraded, I mean literally an endless parade
of Native American pagans, you know, go a lot of
them from the rainforest. That's why they held it in
the rainforest. Who came to enlighten all the delegates about
(06:04):
how Mother Earth is angry at us for our co
two emations, and we need to go back to appeasing
the forest spirits and the river spirits and the rock spirits.
And we do that by basically repaganizing the world and
cleansing it of Christian civilization.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
So this was a very, very very.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Significant motif throughout this conference, and I think it's one
of the big takeaways.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
You know, it's been that way for a while, and
we've had again they're making it, you know, keep propagating this,
but we've had bits and pieces of this. Remember Jennifer Warrance,
the actress, was very serious about Mother Earth being upset
with us though you know, we had some natural disasters
or something like that. They take that very seriously. The
Gaia theory that was done by James Lovelock. I remember
(06:50):
we were in the UK in two thousand and one
and it was everywhere. It was you know, science magazines
that we saw left behind on the train from people.
It was all over the and I took the kids
to a children's museum and they had this loop plane
that was saying that, you know, guy, a mother Earth
is this sentient being and that humans are like a virus,
(07:13):
and so therefore we need to be exterminated, right, and
so that type of thing has been going for quite
some time. Not interestingly enough, Lovelock, who came up with
that analogy based on pagan religion. Guy a mother Earth.
He has now moved back away from that, he's now
recanted that. But these people are doubling down and going
on with it. And it is a religion and they
(07:34):
pursue it religiously. You know, that is the worldview in
which they frame everything.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I think, Alex, I think what is going on the
way it might take on all this. I want to
see what you think about this. I think one of
the reasons that they're pulling back on this is because
they've got to get the infrastructure in with AI and
they've got to get the infrastructure in with digital money,
you know, not CBDC, but they'll be doing it through
through stable coins that'll give them the same kind of
(08:02):
control and you know, being able to observe everything that
we do and control and prevent us from making certain transactions.
I think they've got to get that infrastructure in and
so they're going to wait and do that and then
they will roll in the come back to the population
control stuff, and it is population control in every aspect
(08:24):
of it, making sure they don't have as many people.
But then the people that are there, they want to
control every aspect of our life. What do you think
about that? Did you see stuff there about Sea forty
for example, you know the thing that was put together
by City Khan and Bloomberg. When I saw all the
angst about Mom Danny and I thought, well, we've already
(08:46):
had a Muslim mayor and a communist in London and
New York putting out this prescription for how they're going
to ration our lives to us. They call it Sea
forty Initiative. So I didn't really see that anything was
different about that. But what do you think? What do
you think in terms of why they have stepped back
away from this climate mcguffin and I think they're going
(09:09):
to step back into it once they get these tools
in place.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
My take, David is that they realize that the bitter
cleaners in America are not going for it. You know,
they've done the polling. I've seen the polling results. They
know the majority of Americans don't even believe that human
activity is responsible for climate change. And then when you
drill down even further, even the people who do believe,
even the kool aid drinkers, don't care enough to actually
do anything. There was an interesting poll by ap North
(09:34):
Center for Public Affairs, less than one third of Americans
were willing to pay one single solitary US dollar on
their monthly electric bill climate change. Okay, that's how little
Americans care, even tho ones who are dumb enough to
fall for this. So their strategy was really clear to me, David.
They're working through a variety of institutions, but education is
(09:56):
one of the critical ones. UNESCO had a big, big,
big event there. They called it Greening Education. They partnered
with the Marxist Brazilian government and the OECD, and they
talked about how we are going to brainwash the children
in every single country to believe this, and it's not
going to be optional. Right, You're going to include it
in your Nationally Determined Contributions, your NDCs that you got
to update every five years. Under Paris, they're going to
(10:17):
be including what they call climate literacy on the International
Standardized Assessments.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
The PISA as it's called PISA.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
And so basically, if your government isn't brainwashing the little
ones to believe that we're all doing from climate change
and that they need to become climate activists, you're going
to look stupid.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Right when you come out on these international assessments.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
So they were saying this openly the top officials at UNASCO,
the UN Education Agency.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
So I think that's their plan.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
You're right, the data centers and the AI is a
critical component of this. They can't restructure the whole economy
around carbon credits and your carbon footprint until they've got
the computing power and the data to go with the
computing power that makes this all trackable, and then you've
got to combine it with the social credit scores. So
you're right, the AI and the data centers are a
(11:03):
precursor to the ultimate flip. But they are one hundred
percent committed to this. I think the only reason it
wasn't covered in the American media is because they now know.
The more we talk about this, the more angry Americans get,
the more likely they are to call their congressmen and
demand into all this foolishness. So I think that's where
they're going. But you know, to go back to the
religion thing for a moment. The first time I saw
(11:25):
the paganism, I was just a young whipper snapper journalist
fresh out of journalism school.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
It was in Cancun.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
The head of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change
in case down if you get is opened up with
a prayer to each jail, whom she described as the
goddess of tapestries and creativity.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
So you know, I'm dead serious. She opens up and says,
we need a prayer.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
To each shell that she'll give us the wisdom and
creativity to create a creative tapestry of climate solutions for
this crisis whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
So I whip out my laptop and look up this
each shell and she's the goddess of cannibalism and war
and human sacrifice.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Oh it was not just basket weaving, right it prayer.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
We've got to get rid of the disease on this planet,
which is humanity. And so you know they've been set
back by the fact that nobody believes them. But they're
going to go for our kids, They're going to go
for our churches, and they will be back with a
vengeance as soon as enough of the older population dies
off and they've got enough of the younger dupes ready
to move into positions of power.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
I agree you're talking about the OECD.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
It's almost like inserting education in the e of education,
inserting that in the OCD obsessive compulsive disorder, because that's
what they have done with the kids, and they can
get a sizable percentage of kids if we start them
from an early age, can brainwash them into this stuff.
That's why they had that guy of video running in
(12:45):
the children's museum. But you know, when you talk about
the religious side of it, I remember Pope Francis when
he was first first getting in this. One of the
first things he did was a climate encyclical, and then
he got people upset with him because he had that
Pakemama thing from Amazon. I remember some people then threw
it in the river there near the Vatican. But so
(13:05):
was pake Omama. Was that featured in this particular one
in Brazil.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
I didn't see Pacamama, but I didn't watch the papacy
very closely because you know, Francis has now gone on
to eternity.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I don't know what that looks like for him, but
he the new guy.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
I was like, well, let's see, is he going to
continue the environmental crusade, the environmental holy war? And sure
enough he doubled down on it. I mean before the conference,
I'm sure he saw the video of him blessing this
big block of ice. Might have been the weirdest ceremony
I ever saw, except for the.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Pagamama, I think. But then he releases this.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
He's got the biggest delegation ever at a climate center.
All these cardinals and bishops and the Secretary of State
gave the big opening speech on his behalf and he
produced a video and I mean, people should watch.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
It was only like two and a half minutes.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
He's like, to the religious people gathered in the Amazon
to save the climate, you know, keep it up, but
we can't just have hope, you know, now we got
to have action and really really blatant collaboration with paganism.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
And you also had the Muslims there, which was really
interesting too.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
You had one Muslim leader lecturing everybody about how Mohammed
was really a great environmentalist because this one time he
said we shouldn't drink all our water, we should conserve resources.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
And clearly he was a climate activist. You know, even
had a word for it. I forget what the word
was in Arabic.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
But they're bringing all the religions of the world, and
I say religions of the world in you know, the evangelical,
biblical sense and all the religions of the world are
uniting behind this climate foolishness. And you had organizations purporting
to represent over one hundred Christian denominations there a lot
of them led of course by the Vatican.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
But this is dead serious and Americans aren't seeing it.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, they talk about climate justice and things like that,
and yeah, it is amazing. And so that's all alive
and wealth still with a religious people, and it's becoming,
as you point out, kind of a world religion where
they can pull them all in. I wonder if it
never occurred to anybody that maybe Mohammad was saying about
conserving water was because they're in the middle of the desert.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
So what is the status with the Paris Climate Accord?
I have talked about this over and over again. I
was so disappointed because in many regards, even the first
Trump administration, there was some very positive stuff in terms
of pushing back against some radical environmentalism, and of course
we've seen some good moves in this one as well
(15:27):
for whatever reason, but one thing that they did not
do was to just say that the Climate Accord was
null and void. And it was null and void because
you remember it was John Kerry who said, yeah, Obama
and I just self ratified at ourselves and and so,
and I say the Republicans are just as guilty of
(15:48):
this as the Democrats are because I remember had I
can't remember his name now. He had somebody that I'd
worked with before in terms of climate stuff, and he said,
what needs to happen is the Republican Senate needs to
come in and say we're going to have a vote
(16:09):
on this presumed treaty.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
We're going to put it up for a vote.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
There's no way that it was going to get the
sixty percent votes that it needed, so they needed to
do that, and so they could shut it down, but
they never did. And the fact that there was never
a single Republican that pointed that out, that said this
is a bogus, bogus treaty. It is null and void,
it has no effect. And then throughout the entire Trump administration,
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they pretended that they couldn't get out of it because
I think it was deliberately put in saying if you
want to get out, you got to wait four years,
knowing that that's the term of the American president. So
this time they say well, okay, he got out, and
then Biden puts us back in immediately, again violating the
idea of treaties. And then when Trump gets in, now
he's going to get out, but since it's the second time,
(16:55):
he's getting out now. According to the treaty, only has
to wait one year, but we're waiting that year to
get out. Have you seen that. Has a Trump administration
ignored these principles? Have they done anything to violate the
Climate Agreement or are they still complying with it for
this year?
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Yeah, So this is a really important subject, David, and
I'm going to try to break it down.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
As simply as possible.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
They make it needlessly complicated so that normal people and
even people who follow these things closely can't understand it.
So there's an underlying treaty. This was approved back in
nineteen ninety two. It came out of the Earth Summit
that was held in Rio de Janeiro in nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
George HW.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Bush signed it on behalf of America, and that's where
we got the Earth Charter, that's where we got the
Agenda twenty one. But we got this nineteen ninety two
treaty that was called the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change,
which is very confusing because that's also the name of
the bureaucracy that's in charge of implementing the treaty. So
every year these climate summits are hosted by the UNF
Triple C. It's headquartered in Bonn, Germany. And that treaty was,
(17:58):
at least according to the Congressional record, ratified by the
US Senate. I've heard some legitimate questions about the rat
whether the ratification was legitimate. But in nineteen ninety two,
the US Senate officially ratified this monstrous treaty that George
hw Bush, mister New World Order signed, And so each
year they hold these annual climates. This was the thirtieth one,
as you pointed out, the cop thirty. And each year
(18:19):
they come up with a new agreement, and each year
they like to pretend like they're just going to tack
that onto the back of the nineteen ninety two treaty.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
And so we don't need the Senate to look at
this again. It's just part of the UN Framework Convention
on Climate Change, right, because this is the mechanism that
they set up.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
And so every year comes and they try to take
at least one giant leap forward on the climate scam,
whether it's you know, set up a carbon market, set
up a loss and damage fund. Have the United States
plead guilty for causing the climate crisis, so each year
they take a big new jump into usurping more power,
et cetera. Now, the Paris Agreement was one of these
(18:56):
supplemental agreements. They did not treat it like a treaty.
They treat it as just an addendum to the nineteen
ninety two treaty.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
So here's where we're at now.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
And I've talked to a lot of people in the
Trump administration about this, including at State, including at EPA,
to try to get a handle on what's going on.
And I'm told by multiple people who are very well informed,
people who were very much involved in getting us out
of the Paris Agreement the first time, that there are
now discussions about the possibility of withdrawing from the UNF
Triple C. That would be, as far as I'm concerned,
checkmate for the climate cult at least as far as
(19:27):
the United States is concerned.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
But here's the kicker. We're not out of the UNF
Triple C.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
So we're down in Brazil at this UN Climate Summit,
and you've got some of the top globalist puppets at
this summit, like Pstana Figueta Soo I mentioned earlier, former
Executive Secretary of the UNF Triple C say, it's great
that Trump didn't come. You know, his administration would have
just been a big obstacle.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
They would have been a big roadblock.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
We might not have even been able to pass these
agreements by consensus, which is what they do. And so frankly,
it's fantastic that Trump is not here. You had Gene Sue,
a very prominent legal mind on this right now with
the Center for Biological Diversity, but she'll almost certainly work
for the next Democrat regime when they get the White
House again, says, hey, this is fantastic that the Trump
administration didn't send anybody. We're going to pass a super
(20:10):
ambitious agreement. And then the US is still in the
UNF Triple C. So as soon as Trump has gone
and we get the next president in, this will all
be binding on the United States and we'll we'll enforce
it all on the United States.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
So that's essentially the situation right now.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Trump has his executive order on day one, this was
January twenty, twenty twenty five. Putting America first in international
environmental agreements did get us out of Paris.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
It did get us out of all of.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
These subsequent agreements that have been tacked onto the back
of the nineteen ninety two treaty. But as of right now,
it's only a temporary measure.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
As soon as we.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Get a Democrat or a Rhino Republican back in the
White House, all they got to do is whip out
their pen say we're back into all of it. And
that's what they're planning. By the way, that's what Gavin
Newsom talked about, you know, Gavin Newsom and his hair
showed up in the Amazon and said that, hey, don't worry,
we're still in. You know, Trump as an invasive species.
He's not a permanent fixture of American politics. As soon
as he's gone, we'll be right back in. And by
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the way, in the meantime, me and most of the
American population and most of the American economy are still
part of this. Right California is going to keep implementing
Paris and all the other ones. They have this coalition,
it's called we're still in. It's mayors, governors, CEOs, and
technically they're correct. If you look at their jurisdictions, like
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the state of California, you add them all together, they
do have most of the American population, most American GDP,
and they're pretending like we're still in all of these
subsequent agreements that we're added on to the back of
the unf tripleC.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
So I know that's super confusing.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
That's where we're at. I just want to add one thing, David.
I am not a lawyer, but I play one on
TV NO. But I have read the Constitution, and I
think anybody is capable of reading the Constitution with a
third grade level of education and intelligence, you should be
able to understand this. The Constitution does allow the President
to sign and the Senate to approve of treaties which
(22:01):
are binding on the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
But there's a big kex that nobody ever talks about.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
And most of the lawyers haven't even read the Constitution,
so they probably don't even know this. But if you
go to Article six, where it says that the statutes
passed by Congress and the treaties are part of the
Supreme law of the land along with the Constitution. It
says that they need to be made in pursuance thereof.
So statutes and treaties that are made in pursuance thereof,
in other words, that are made constitutionally. Show me where
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the Constitution grants the federal government the power to regulate
my co two emissions. Show them where it grants me
them the power to shut down my power plant or
create new emission standards for my cars.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Right, they don't have that power.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
If they want that power, they need to go to
Article five. There's two different options there for passing a
constitutional amendment. And this has been by the way, very clear,
very ironclad, from the beginning of our republic. Thomas Jefferson explained,
if the treaty power is boundless, in other words, if
they could just grab new powers by signing a treaty,
there's no point in having a constitution. And we have
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even in nineteen fifty seven, the Supreme Court ruled inn
Read versus Covert the federal government cannot grant itself new
powers just by approving the international treaty.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
So it's not far as.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
I'm concerned, the unf Triple C is totally illegitimate. Federal
government never has those powers, and we need to treat
it that way. It's a user patient, it's null and void.
As even Alexander Hamilton said in the Federalist Papers, this
is a fraud. We have no obligation to obey this thing.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I absolutely agree with you, and you know I would
say what they're trying to do with this is kind
of akin to what they did with the Authorization for
the Use of Military Force. So we've done this one thing.
Now we can have wars without having a declaration or
discussion or vote on it or whatever. So now we
got into this treaty once back in nineteen ninety two,
and now we can amend it and extend it, and
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we can do all these different things that are in
violation of the US Constitution, and we never have to
go back and relitigate this or reapprove any of these treaties.
I reject that, just like I reject the Organization for
the Use of Military Force. But the point that you
made is that these treaties cannot amend or suspend the
US Constitution, that is the controlling document. The problem is
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that we've let them get away with us in so
many different areas, you know, just like we were talking
about the War on drugs and the way this is extended.
I honestly, I think alex they called it a war
on drugs instead of prohibition because they don't want people
to think, well, wait a minute, and we had prohibition.
There was a constitutional amendment required for that, with the
eighteenth Amendment. So they play these games where they just
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assume these powers and then it's up to you to
stop it, and to somehow stop it using other levers
of government, as they continue to say that they have
those powers when they don't really have them. That's the
whole fraud behind this. But it really is ye, it
really is about power. It really is about depopulation. I mean,
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I remember when this whole thing started. I was in
high school when they started had the first Earthday, and
I remember it was all about depopulation. And my friends
who bought into all this stuff, they were just constantly
wringing their hands. There's too many people. There's too many people.
There's too many and Paul Erlick is out there, how
do we get rid of people? Well, wars are good,
but disease is even better, you know, And so we
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need to have all these different ways that we can
kill people. But the governments look at it and although
they like to kill people, they like to control the
people who are still alive as well. And so I
think it really checks all the boxes for the people
in power. It gets them exactly what they want. And
of course it's checked the boxes where a lot of
people made a lot of money off of this stuff.
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What does it look like they're lining up to do
now with this some what kind of financial schemes are
they rolling out.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
On the climate change front?
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Well, a lot of the governments of the world are
moving ahead of this, ahead on this without us for now, right.
And the assumption is, as I just explained, they're saying
this openly. The assumption is that they'll just impose this
on the United States later. So they've got several really
significant financial arrangements and they got a lot of these
into the cop Thirty one point three trillion dollars a
year is the number that they put in the final agreement,
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agreed to by consensus. By the way, the United States
wasn't there to object so implicitly, since we're still part
of the unf Triple C. We agreed to This is
something nobody wants to talk about, but it's true. One
point three trillion in well three distribution per year by
the year twenty thirty five. So we're talking ten years
from now, they're going to be extracting one point three
trillion dollars from whatever's left of the American middle class,
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if we still have one, whatever's left of the middle
class in Europe. That's in addition to a tripling of
climate adaptation finance, which is basically bribing third world kleptocracies
to pretend like they're adapting to climate change by putting
money in their Swiss bank accounts and buying nicer limousines,
building themselves nicer mansions and things like this.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Yeah, that's exactly rights.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
And so Joe Biden agreed to a loss and damage
fund him and John Kerrey, where we're going to be
paying climate reparations.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I got, apart from all.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
These other things, and a huge development that almost nobody
in the American media talked about. They're now integrating carbon markets.
So the European Union and the Marxist Brazilian government came
up with this big special event.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
They got a new agreement.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
I forget the whole title of it was like open
carbon market, transparent reform mechanis something where they are bringing
together the European Union carbon market, the Brazilian carbon market,
the Chicom carbon market. They're all going to start using
the same standard so that they can all be integrated,
so that a carbon credit in the European Union is
the same as a carbon credit in Brazil is the
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same as a carbon credit eventually in the United States
of America, when they think they can pass this abomination
on us and for all people who think this isn't
a threat for the next three and a half years
while we have Trump in office, I would just remind
everybody that there's a lot of people in the administration
who have publicly expressed support for these things in the past.
Howard Lutnik, the Commerce Secretary, has actually been deeply involved
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in creating the infrastructure for the carbon markets. Elon Musk
has been black bring about carbon markets for years and
it be a big boon to Tesla, but he has
suggested that carbon markets carbon taxes are a really efficient
way of reducing our carbon emissions. You've got a lot
of people in the administration, and I'm sure Scott bescent
is among them who think these kinds of ideas are
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good and proper.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Son to George Soros, Yeah, absolutely, of course.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
And the CFR, the Council on Foreign Relations, I mean,
the guys I think through and through suspect. But we
need to realize that this is this is not a
threat that's over. And I think that's one of the
dangerous narratives that has gone through the alternative media in
recent years, is like, oh, we won, all right, you know.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Let's go back to focusing on more important things.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
The climate change hoax is still the pretext, not a pretext,
the pretext for completely restructuring the global economy, completely undermining
national sovereignty and transferring power and authority to the UN
and bringing all the religions of the world together so
that we can save mother Earth. And nothing has changed
about that. They've just stop talking about it in the
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fake media in America, that's right.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
And when you look at Lutnik, you know the fact
that he wants to common you know, I think about.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
It, how do we get the EU?
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Well, it all began with the common market, right, it
agains with economic unification, and then before you know it,
you've got a common currency. Well, what's that common currency
going to be. It's going to be some stable coins
that are being done by Lutnik, so they can monitor
everybody's use and stop you from being able to spend
if you don't, you know, do it the right way.
So it's basically the way that they're going to bring
in the CBDC. When you look at people getting very
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upset about this, it's primarily the power bills, and they're
going to continue escalating these power bills by leaps and
bounds for the purpose of artificial intelligence. And so they're
going to have that fight. They're going to build that
up as a necessity, and you know, once they get
that in, they're going to use that to impose all
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of these these carbon markets and carbon credits and everything
for individuals. And that's really where this is all headed.
It is the perfect I talked about it as being
the mcguffin, you know, Hitchcock always had. He said, it
doesn't really matter what it is that they're chasing. It
could be a multie falcon or whatever. They've got a
different eject, you know, that's what we're using as our
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plot device for the movie. And so they got these
different plot devices, and they just keep moving them around,
but they always seem to go in the same direction.
You know, we had the COVID mcguffin. It was all
about getting some kind of a vaccine ID so they
could track you in that type. So we've got to
have the infrastructure to be able to track people's movements.
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We've got to have the digital biometric infrastructure so we
can see what they've done and keep records on people.
So they always have this. It always comes back to
the same solution for all these different mcguffins, and they
just have a different panic mode that they're trying to
put people into.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
It truly is amazing, yep, absolutely, And you know, fear
is of course one of the tools. Be afraid of
climate change, be afraid of a COVID, afraid of you
know whatever the pretext is, be afraid of drugs, be
afraid of you know some people group in another part
of the world that so lives in caves. You know,
whatever it takes to make you very scared so that
you'll give up more of your money, more your freedom.
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And so this is the oldest trick in the book, right,
I mean, you can go back two hundred years. Look
at Frederic Bastiat, the great French philosopher lawmaker, said that
these totalitarians are constantly concocting the poison and the antidote
in the same laboratory.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Right.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Climate change is the ultimate example of that.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Create a fake crisis over here and then create fake
solutions to the fake crisis over here, and pressed that
you take away people's money and freedom.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
How about that?
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Frederick Bastiat knew about the dark winter and operational word
feed long before it ever happened, right.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
He knew the pattern of politicians well enough to be
able to identify it.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Right.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
And unfortunately today people don't know this because they've been
brainwashing a government school. You know, they really don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Much of anything.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
They haven't been trained in logic, they haven't been trained
in history, they haven't been trained in analysis and reasoning.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
So, you know, someone on TV said.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Climate change is going to get you, and a big
percentage of the population says, oh, no, what do we
need to do master to save me from this boogeyman?
Speaker 1 (32:10):
And here we are, Yeah, and that gets us really,
I think to the real anecdote of this, and that
is education, which you focus on quite a bit. You've
written a book, The Indoctrinating Our Children to Death, and
of course you also have a blog, The Newman Report
is that on substack.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
The Newman Report is on Freedom Project our substack. People
can find it at Liberty Sentinel and we'd love to
have people sign up.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Two times a week we send out the most important
stuff that we're working on.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
So that's great.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah, yeah, what what do you see happening in terms
of education?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Where's your.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Whe're the threats that you see developing or do you
see any good news in education?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Well, there's good news and there's bad news.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
As you mentioned, you were kind enough to have me
on to talk about Indoctrinating Our Children to Death about
a year AGO's I think more relevant today than ever.
And amazingly it's been endorsed by you know, a lot
of great American patriots, including you, and so a lot
of the things that we warned about that we're going
to come in this book are now materializing. So we've
got another book coming out in January. I wrote it
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with Robert Borton's he's the CEO of Classical Conversations. It's
the biggest homeschooling organization in the world, over one hundred
and thirty five thousand students, over a million graduates so far.
And the book is called Woken Weaponize, How Karl Marx
won the Battle for American education and how we can
take it back.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
And it does focus some on the history.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
You know, we go back to the first guys that
seriously proposed that the government ought to be educating our children.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
And they were occultist, they were.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Totalitarians, they were comedies, they were weirdos, they were talking
to spirit friends, and you know, we got smoking gun
evidence of all that.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
But we're still going on.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
So oh absolutely, and I mean they don't even hide
it anymore, right, Shirley mccoon, who George H. W. Bush
put in the Department of Education and start nationalizing education.
She's running around telling people she's talking to spirit ascended
masters who are giving her the secret wisdom into the
new Aide in the fifth dimension and of total bonkers.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
But that's what they're up to.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Well, you got you got General Flynn who is leading
people in prayers to ascended masters and the Seven Rays
or something like that. He was plagiarizing Elizabeth Claire, prophet
he's doing it. This is your awakened American things. So, yeah,
there's a lot of discernment that needs to be had
out there and a.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Lot of education.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
And that's what I like about your your book, Indoctrinating
Our Children to Death. You go into the history of
this and so we can see the trend lines and
where these people are coming from and what they said
they wanted to do. Very important. Yeah, so you've got
a new book coming out in January. That's great, Yes,
we do.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Yeah, and the big threat right now, you know, the
good news is millions of families are continuing to flee
from this corrupt, decaying government and doctrination system mask writing
as a school system.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
The bad news is the UN knows this.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
The globalists know this, and they've got a plan, and
we've got the reports where they outline their plans that
we're going to give you free money and all you
got to do is surrender your freedom and take our
tests and teach our curriculum.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
The UN actually just released a report.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
David, about three weeks ago, maybe a month ago now,
where they said homeschooling must if it's going to be allowed,
it must be under the control of government. They have
to be taught you and approved values, they have to
use you, and approved education content. It was literally prepared
under a North Korean communist and it says so in
the acknowledgments. So they are absolutely coming for our children.
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And if we don't take this threat seriously, I think
all the other fights were engaged in. You know, we
might as well just raise the white flag because we're
going to lose over the long term. We've got to agree
with the education issue.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
I agree. It really is about the hearts and minds. Yeah,
I mean that that was what they kept saying during
Vietnam War. It's about the hearts and minds. Well, that's
what the education system is really about, the hearts and
minds of your children. They're coming after them, and it
is a war to take that. That's why you know
when you look at and again, they'll do it with money.
They always do it with money. And that's why I
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was absolutely flabbergasid when people didn't get that, about the
lockdowns and about the COVID pandemic and everything is that.
Everybody would say, it's not Trump, it's the bad democratic governors.
And I said, he's paying people to do this he's
subsidizing the hospitals, and he's giving everybody else money for this.
That's the way they always get around the Tenth Amendment
or any illegal requirements. They give you money and then
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you do whatever they want. Once they give you that money,
then you get accustomed to it.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
And they own the printing press.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
They've got infinite money, and they know that as long
as they can print some new money, you'll dance to
their tune.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
I mean, it's the greatest scam ever concocted in the
history of man.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Well, I tell you you know, Alex, I've said many
times it's going to be really really difficult for us
here in America once we lose that magic money tree,
that they can just print it all out of nothing. Right,
But that's the only way that you're going to break
the power of the federal government is if you break
the printing presses. And so it's going to be a
good news bad news thing. It's kind of like the
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Silmer lining of the school like towns. I still think
it's funny to go back and look at people talking
about the pandemic and the ill effects of that, and
look at it.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Kept the school. It's kept the school schools for.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
A long time, and it's like, yeah, to me, that
was one of the big advantage, the only advantage of it,
the only silver lining that and the fact that people
could finally see what was happening in their child's classroom.
I can't tell you the number of times I've talked
to people and they say, yeah, yeah, I understand what's
going on over there in that other state, or maybe
even here in this state, or maybe even in my
particular school, but not in my kids classroom. Well, this
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time they could actually see what was happening in the classroom,
and I think that was the big impetus. So the
co author, there's someone who's running classical conversations. That's an
excellent program. We didn't do that when we schooled our kids,
but it really is an excellent, rigorous curriculum there.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
It is.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Yeah, we've actually got our own kids enrolled in there.
That's how I originally connected with them. Such a good program.
Watching the kids going out of this, they're so far
ahead of the poor victims of the government schools.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
It makes you want to cry.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
But you know, if you're a parent and you're looking
for a good program to get your children a real education.
That's the one.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Check it out, classical conversation.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
I agree, Yeah, I think it's got a lot of
great content in it. Well, it's always great having you
on and again people can find you at Liberty Sentinel,
is that correct.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Liberty Sentinel dot org.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
And then the New American dot com is where most
of our climate coverage is going to be. So for
the folks out there who haven't signed up for the
magazine and encourage them to do that at least the
free daily headlines, the Neewamerican dot com and then my website, Yeah,
Liberty Sentinel dot org.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Okay, and I just remember the name of that guy,
Steve Malloy. Steve Malloy was one to talk about a
junks science dot com. I worked with Steve prior to
Info Wars and he's a really good guy and he's
really had his finger to the pultse of what's going
on with the environmental stuff, just as you have. Thank
you so much for joining us, and it's always a
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pleasure talking to you, Alex. And let us know when
you got that new book on, like to talk to
you about that when it's ready.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Absolutely, Thank you so much. It's an honor and a
pleasure to be here. Thank you, David, God bless you.
And Merry Christmas.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Thank you, Mery Christmas to you as well. We'll be
right back, folks, to stay with us, oh,
Well, welcome back, and our guest is Alex Newman, Senior
editor of The New American, award winning international journalist, educator, author, speaker,
nationally syndicated radio host, and consultant. He's an award winning
international journalist, educator, and consultant. So we've had him on
many times, talking mainly about education, but we always get
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him on every year he goes to wherever they have
these cop things. We're now up to number thirty and
this time we covered the road that they were building
for the elites to go down and cutting down massive
numbers of trees. I don't know what was it, one
hundred thousand, Alex, what'd they cut down with those trees?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, that's the number I heard as well.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
But now you know, these people are constantly flipping their story.
And it used to be that trees were our salvation
and you would pay an indulgence to pollute so they
could plant tree somewhere. But now Bill Gates wants all
the trees cut down, not used for anything, but buried
in the ground because they're going to release all that
carbon that they have absorbed. This is the most insane
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thing I've ever seen. But there's a lot of insanity
with that. Did you get to go down that road?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Well, we wasn't ready yet, so nobody was able to
go down it, except you know, the machinery that was
building it.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
But it was quite the story, you know.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
They literally cut down an enormous swath of the rainforest
protected Virgin rainforests, was supposed to be untouchable, and they
decided that, hey, we've got a climate summit coming in
the city's not very nice. The traffic's horrendous, so why
don't we build these people some nice new roads so
they don't have to mingle with the riff raff and
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wait in the traffic like the rest of the suckers.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
And unfortunately for the suckers.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
They actually didn't finish the road in time for the
climate something which is very typical of the socialist powers.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
That's right, So that's our salvation.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
These people can't build anything, not even a road, in
time all of this for the bent and then they
missed the time window.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
There, so they have very embarrassed about it. David.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
They actually put out military and police to try to
guard this so people couldn't get to it.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
We rented a car.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
And we snuck through the rainforest in the middle of
the night, very very late, so that we would be
able to get through there. We actually had to go
all the way out past where there's cell service, passed
where there was even a GPS reception, which I don't
even know how that works, but we did finally find it,
and we found one of the local residents that lived
in the jungle, and he was very upset. He said,
we don't need this stupid road. What we need is
water and electricity. Please, Yeah, we need water and electricity.
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But they're building AI data centers.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
That's what we get over here about because now they
don't care about energy usage or heat generated as long
as it's for AI, because that's going to give them
their control over us.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
But tell us what else you saw there?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I mean a lot of people are saying after Bill
Gates moved back, they're saying, well, you know, this is it.
The people have basically played out all their lies and
they're on the run. Do you see that or does
it look like these people are going to still keep coming.
I think they're going to keep coming. What do you think?
Speaker 4 (03:10):
No question about it, David. I was going to say
that all of this reporting we even saw some of
it in the fake media. Oh, the climate thing was
a failure. Nothing to see here. Go back to your
regularly scheduled football games. There's nothing to worry about.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Bill Gates says it's over right. And I think Bill
Gates just made a strategic decision.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Like you said, he needs AI data centers to enslave
humanity more than he needs the climate.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Hoax at this particular moment.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
But the idea that they're going to give up the
climate hoax is utterly ludicrous. They actually did get an
agreement this year. You know, the Trump administration boycotted it.
State Department told us it was because they the conference
was designed to bankrupt the United States and we weren't
going to participate. But there was a lot in the
final agreement, David. One of the things that got in
there was the carbon budget for humanity. Turns out there
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is a carbon budget that we can be allowed to admit.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
And this this is crazy, David. They got this in
the final tax agree to by government in the world.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
We've already gone through four fifths of it, and most
of that has come from the United States and Europe
and the West.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
And so what's left.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
The one fifth of the carbon budget that we still
have left needs to be allocated to the mass murderny
dictatorship in communist China and the Indian government and the
Brazilians and the South Africans and so on. So the
biggest that's right, and prepared to have your CO two
emissions rationed slaves because that's coming down the pike. They
got the infrastructure in there to eventually create the enforcement
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mechan They went into this with the Marxists would be
dictator of Brazil Lula saying that he wanted to create
an enforcement body.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
He was calling it the Global Environmental Council.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
They didn't get that, but they got all of the
metrics and tools and monitoring frameworks that they'll need to
be able to get that going forward. So that was
big progress and there was also a lot of side agreements. David,
a whole bunch of US allies got together and signed
a Declaration on Information Integrity, basically promising to work together
to censor US. They got more than half of the
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governments agreed to create a fossil fuel phase out road map,
so that were having the first meeting for that in
Columbia in April and then for me, one of the
biggest takeaways David, it always is and nobody ever pays
attention to this is the religious angle.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
You know.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
This conference to me was the place where it was
most clear. And I've been going to these for fifteen years.
We're watching here an attempt to repaganize the world. Basically,
the paradigm, David is Christianity is to blame for the
environmental and ecological catastrophe, because Christianity holds that man has
made in the image of God, that the planet is
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here for our benefit, that we are calling Genesis to
take dominion of the planet and its animals and things
like this for our benefit and for the glory of God.
That's the reason why mother Earth is suffering so much.
And so they paraded, I mean literally an endless parade
of Native American pagans, you know, go a lot of
them from the rainforest. That's why they held it in
the rainforest. Who came to enlighten all the delegates about
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how Mother Earth is angry at us for our co
two emations, and we need to go back to appeasing
the forest spirits and the river spirits and the rock spirits.
And we do that by basically repaganizing the world and
cleansing it of Christian civilization.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
So this was a very, very very.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Significant motif throughout this conference, and I think it's one
of the big takeaways.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
You know, it's been that way for a while, and
we've had again they're making it, you know, keep propagating this,
but we've had bits and pieces of this. Remember Jennifer Warrance,
the actress, was very serious about Mother Earth being upset
with us though you know, we had some natural disasters
or something like that. They take that very seriously. The
Gaia theory that was done by James Lovelock. I remember
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we were in the UK in two thousand and one
and it was everywhere. It was you know, science magazines
that we saw left behind on the train from people.
It was all over the and I took the kids
to a children's museum and they had this loop plane
that was saying that, you know, guy, a mother Earth
is this sentient being and that humans are like a virus,
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and so therefore we need to be exterminated, right, and
so that type of thing has been going for quite
some time. Not interestingly enough, Lovelock, who came up with
that analogy based on pagan religion. Guy a mother Earth.
He has now moved back away from that, he's now
recanted that. But these people are doubling down and going
on with it. And it is a religion and they
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pursue it religiously. You know, that is the worldview in
which they frame everything.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I think, Alex, I think what is going on the
way it might take on all this. I want to
see what you think about this. I think one of
the reasons that they're pulling back on this is because
they've got to get the infrastructure in with AI and
they've got to get the infrastructure in with digital money,
you know, not CBDC, but they'll be doing it through
through stable coins that'll give them the same kind of
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control and you know, being able to observe everything that
we do and control and prevent us from making certain transactions.
I think they've got to get that infrastructure in and
so they're going to wait and do that and then
they will roll in the come back to the population
control stuff, and it is population control in every aspect
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of it, making sure they don't have as many people.
But then the people that are there, they want to
control every aspect of our life. What do you think
about that? Did you see stuff there about Sea forty
for example, you know the thing that was put together
by City Khan and Bloomberg. When I saw all the
angst about Mom Danny and I thought, well, we've already
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had a Muslim mayor and a communist in London and
New York putting out this prescription for how they're going
to ration our lives to us. They call it Sea
forty Initiative. So I didn't really see that anything was
different about that. But what do you think? What do
you think in terms of why they have stepped back
away from this climate mcguffin and I think they're going
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to step back into it once they get these tools
in place.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
My take, David is that they realize that the bitter
cleaners in America are not going for it. You know,
they've done the polling. I've seen the polling results. They
know the majority of Americans don't even believe that human
activity is responsible for climate change. And then when you
drill down even further, even the people who do believe,
even the kool aid drinkers, don't care enough to actually
do anything. There was an interesting poll by ap North
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Center for Public Affairs, less than one third of Americans
were willing to pay one single solitary US dollar on
their monthly electric bill climate change. Okay, that's how little
Americans care, even tho ones who are dumb enough to
fall for this. So their strategy was really clear to me, David.
They're working through a variety of institutions, but education is
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one of the critical ones. UNESCO had a big, big,
big event there. They called it Greening Education. They partnered
with the Marxist Brazilian government and the OECD, and they
talked about how we are going to brainwash the children
in every single country to believe this, and it's not
going to be optional. Right, You're going to include it
in your Nationally Determined Contributions, your NDCs that you got
to update every five years. Under Paris, they're going to
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be including what they call climate literacy on the International
Standardized Assessments.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
The PISA as it's called PISA.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
And so basically, if your government isn't brainwashing the little
ones to believe that we're all doing from climate change
and that they need to become climate activists, you're going
to look stupid.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Right when you come out on these international assessments.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
So they were saying this openly the top officials at UNASCO,
the UN Education Agency.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
So I think that's their plan.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
You're right, the data centers and the AI is a
critical component of this. They can't restructure the whole economy
around carbon credits and your carbon footprint until they've got
the computing power and the data to go with the
computing power that makes this all trackable, and then you've
got to combine it with the social credit scores. So
you're right, the AI and the data centers are a
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precursor to the ultimate flip. But they are one hundred
percent committed to this. I think the only reason it
wasn't covered in the American media is because they now know.
The more we talk about this, the more angry Americans get,
the more likely they are to call their congressmen and
demand into all this foolishness. So I think that's where
they're going. But you know, to go back to the
religion thing for a moment. The first time I saw
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the paganism, I was just a young whipper snapper journalist
fresh out of journalism school.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
It was in Cancun.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
The head of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change
in case down if you get is opened up with
a prayer to each jail, whom she described as the
goddess of tapestries and creativity.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
So you know, I'm dead serious. She opens up and says,
we need a prayer.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
To each shell that she'll give us the wisdom and
creativity to create a creative tapestry of climate solutions for
this crisis whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
So I whip out my laptop and look up this
each shell and she's the goddess of cannibalism and war
and human sacrifice.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Oh it was not just basket weaving, right it prayer.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
We've got to get rid of the disease on this planet,
which is humanity. And so you know they've been set
back by the fact that nobody believes them. But they're
going to go for our kids, They're going to go
for our churches, and they will be back with a
vengeance as soon as enough of the older population dies
off and they've got enough of the younger dupes ready
to move into positions of power.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
I agree you're talking about the OECD.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
It's almost like inserting education in the e of education,
inserting that in the OCD obsessive compulsive disorder, because that's
what they have done with the kids, and they can
get a sizable percentage of kids if we start them
from an early age, can brainwash them into this stuff.
That's why they had that guy of video running in
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the children's museum. But you know, when you talk about
the religious side of it, I remember Pope Francis when
he was first first getting in this. One of the
first things he did was a climate encyclical, and then
he got people upset with him because he had that
Pakemama thing from Amazon. I remember some people then threw
it in the river there near the Vatican. But so
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was pake Omama. Was that featured in this particular one
in Brazil.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
I didn't see Pacamama, but I didn't watch the papacy
very closely because you know, Francis has now gone on
to eternity.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I don't know what that looks like for him, but
he the new guy.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
I was like, well, let's see, is he going to
continue the environmental crusade, the environmental holy war? And sure
enough he doubled down on it. I mean before the conference,
I'm sure he saw the video of him blessing this
big block of ice. Might have been the weirdest ceremony
I ever saw, except for the.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Pagamama, I think. But then he releases this.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
He's got the biggest delegation ever at a climate center.
All these cardinals and bishops and the Secretary of State
gave the big opening speech on his behalf and he
produced a video and I mean, people should watch.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
It was only like two and a half minutes.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
He's like, to the religious people gathered in the Amazon
to save the climate, you know, keep it up, but
we can't just have hope, you know, now we got
to have action and really really blatant collaboration with paganism.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
And you also had the Muslims there, which was really
interesting too.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
You had one Muslim leader lecturing everybody about how Mohammed
was really a great environmentalist because this one time he
said we shouldn't drink all our water, we should conserve resources.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
And clearly he was a climate activist. You know, even
had a word for it. I forget what the word
was in Arabic.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
But they're bringing all the religions of the world, and
I say religions of the world in you know, the evangelical,
biblical sense and all the religions of the world are
uniting behind this climate foolishness. And you had organizations purporting
to represent over one hundred Christian denominations there a lot
of them led of course by the Vatican.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
But this is dead serious and Americans aren't seeing it.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, they talk about climate justice and things like that,
and yeah, it is amazing. And so that's all alive
and wealth still with a religious people, and it's becoming,
as you point out, kind of a world religion where
they can pull them all in. I wonder if it
never occurred to anybody that maybe Mohammad was saying about
conserving water was because they're in the middle of the desert.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
So what is the status with the Paris Climate Accord?
I have talked about this over and over again. I
was so disappointed because in many regards, even the first
Trump administration, there was some very positive stuff in terms
of pushing back against some radical environmentalism, and of course
we've seen some good moves in this one as well
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for whatever reason, but one thing that they did not
do was to just say that the Climate Accord was
null and void. And it was null and void because
you remember it was John Kerry who said, yeah, Obama
and I just self ratified at ourselves and and so,
and I say the Republicans are just as guilty of
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this as the Democrats are because I remember had I
can't remember his name now. He had somebody that I'd
worked with before in terms of climate stuff, and he said,
what needs to happen is the Republican Senate needs to
come in and say we're going to have a vote
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on this presumed treaty.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
We're going to put it up for a vote.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
There's no way that it was going to get the
sixty percent votes that it needed, so they needed to
do that, and so they could shut it down, but
they never did. And the fact that there was never
a single Republican that pointed that out, that said this
is a bogus, bogus treaty. It is null and void,
it has no effect. And then throughout the entire Trump administration,
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they pretended that they couldn't get out of it because
I think it was deliberately put in saying if you
want to get out, you got to wait four years,
knowing that that's the term of the American president. So
this time they say well, okay, he got out, and
then Biden puts us back in immediately, again violating the
idea of treaties. And then when Trump gets in, now
he's going to get out, but since it's the second time,
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he's getting out now. According to the treaty, only has
to wait one year, but we're waiting that year to
get out. Have you seen that. Has a Trump administration
ignored these principles? Have they done anything to violate the
Climate Agreement or are they still complying with it for
this year?
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Yeah, So this is a really important subject, David, and
I'm going to try to break it down.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
As simply as possible.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
They make it needlessly complicated so that normal people and
even people who follow these things closely can't understand it.
So there's an underlying treaty. This was approved back in
nineteen ninety two. It came out of the Earth Summit
that was held in Rio de Janeiro in nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
George HW.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Bush signed it on behalf of America, and that's where
we got the Earth Charter, that's where we got the
Agenda twenty one. But we got this nineteen ninety two
treaty that was called the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change,
which is very confusing because that's also the name of
the bureaucracy that's in charge of implementing the treaty. So
every year these climate summits are hosted by the UNF
Triple C. It's headquartered in Bonn, Germany. And that treaty was,
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at least according to the Congressional record, ratified by the
US Senate. I've heard some legitimate questions about the rat
whether the ratification was legitimate. But in nineteen ninety two,
the US Senate officially ratified this monstrous treaty that George
hw Bush, mister New World Order signed, And so each
year they hold these annual climates. This was the thirtieth one,
as you pointed out, the cop thirty. And each year
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they come up with a new agreement, and each year
they like to pretend like they're just going to tack
that onto the back of the nineteen ninety two treaty.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
And so we don't need the Senate to look at
this again. It's just part of the UN Framework Convention
on Climate Change, right, because this is the mechanism that
they set up.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
And so every year comes and they try to take
at least one giant leap forward on the climate scam,
whether it's you know, set up a carbon market, set
up a loss and damage fund. Have the United States
plead guilty for causing the climate crisis, so each year
they take a big new jump into usurping more power,
et cetera. Now, the Paris Agreement was one of these
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supplemental agreements. They did not treat it like a treaty.
They treat it as just an addendum to the nineteen
ninety two treaty.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
So here's where we're at now.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
And I've talked to a lot of people in the
Trump administration about this, including at State, including at EPA,
to try to get a handle on what's going on.
And I'm told by multiple people who are very well informed,
people who were very much involved in getting us out
of the Paris Agreement the first time, that there are
now discussions about the possibility of withdrawing from the UNF
Triple C. That would be, as far as I'm concerned,
checkmate for the climate cult at least as far as
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the United States is concerned.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
But here's the kicker. We're not out of the UNF
Triple C.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
So we're down in Brazil at this UN Climate Summit,
and you've got some of the top globalist puppets at
this summit, like Pstana Figueta Soo I mentioned earlier, former
Executive Secretary of the UNF Triple C say, it's great
that Trump didn't come. You know, his administration would have
just been a big obstacle.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
They would have been a big roadblock.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
We might not have even been able to pass these
agreements by consensus, which is what they do. And so frankly,
it's fantastic that Trump is not here. You had Gene Sue,
a very prominent legal mind on this right now with
the Center for Biological Diversity, but she'll almost certainly work
for the next Democrat regime when they get the White
House again, says, hey, this is fantastic that the Trump
administration didn't send anybody. We're going to pass a super
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ambitious agreement. And then the US is still in the
UNF Triple C. So as soon as Trump has gone
and we get the next president in, this will all
be binding on the United States and we'll we'll enforce
it all on the United States.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
So that's essentially the situation right now.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Trump has his executive order on day one, this was
January twenty, twenty twenty five. Putting America first in international
environmental agreements did get us out of Paris.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
It did get us out of all of.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
These subsequent agreements that have been tacked onto the back
of the nineteen ninety two treaty. But as of right now,
it's only a temporary measure.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
As soon as we.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Get a Democrat or a Rhino Republican back in the
White House, all they got to do is whip out
their pen say we're back into all of it. And
that's what they're planning. By the way, that's what Gavin
Newsom talked about, you know, Gavin Newsom and his hair
showed up in the Amazon and said that, hey, don't worry,
we're still in. You know, Trump as an invasive species.
He's not a permanent fixture of American politics. As soon
as he's gone, we'll be right back in. And by
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the way, in the meantime, me and most of the
American population and most of the American economy are still
part of this. Right California is going to keep implementing
Paris and all the other ones. They have this coalition,
it's called we're still in. It's mayors, governors, CEOs, and
technically they're correct. If you look at their jurisdictions, like
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the state of California, you add them all together, they
do have most of the American population, most American GDP,
and they're pretending like we're still in all of these
subsequent agreements that we're added on to the back of
the unf tripleC.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
So I know that's super confusing.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
That's where we're at. I just want to add one thing, David.
I am not a lawyer, but I play one on
TV NO. But I have read the Constitution, and I
think anybody is capable of reading the Constitution with a
third grade level of education and intelligence, you should be
able to understand this. The Constitution does allow the President
to sign and the Senate to approve of treaties which
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are binding on the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
But there's a big kex that nobody ever talks about.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
And most of the lawyers haven't even read the Constitution,
so they probably don't even know this. But if you
go to Article six, where it says that the statutes
passed by Congress and the treaties are part of the
Supreme law of the land along with the Constitution. It
says that they need to be made in pursuance thereof.
So statutes and treaties that are made in pursuance thereof,
in other words, that are made constitutionally. Show me where
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the Constitution grants the federal government the power to regulate
my co two emissions. Show them where it grants me
them the power to shut down my power plant or
create new emission standards for my cars.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Right, they don't have that power.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
If they want that power, they need to go to
Article five. There's two different options there for passing a
constitutional amendment. And this has been by the way, very clear,
very ironclad, from the beginning of our republic. Thomas Jefferson explained,
if the treaty power is boundless, in other words, if
they could just grab new powers by signing a treaty,
there's no point in having a constitution. And we have
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even in nineteen fifty seven, the Supreme Court ruled inn
Read versus Covert the federal government cannot grant itself new
powers just by approving the international treaty.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
So it's not far as.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
I'm concerned, the unf Triple C is totally illegitimate. Federal
government never has those powers, and we need to treat
it that way. It's a user patient, it's null and void.
As even Alexander Hamilton said in the Federalist Papers, this
is a fraud. We have no obligation to obey this thing.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I absolutely agree with you, and you know I would
say what they're trying to do with this is kind
of akin to what they did with the Authorization for
the Use of Military Force. So we've done this one thing.
Now we can have wars without having a declaration or
discussion or vote on it or whatever. So now we
got into this treaty once back in nineteen ninety two,
and now we can amend it and extend it, and
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we can do all these different things that are in
violation of the US Constitution, and we never have to
go back and relitigate this or reapprove any of these treaties.
I reject that, just like I reject the Organization for
the Use of Military Force. But the point that you
made is that these treaties cannot amend or suspend the
US Constitution, that is the controlling document. The problem is
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that we've let them get away with us in so
many different areas, you know, just like we were talking
about the War on drugs and the way this is extended.
I honestly, I think alex they called it a war
on drugs instead of prohibition because they don't want people
to think, well, wait a minute, and we had prohibition.
There was a constitutional amendment required for that, with the
eighteenth Amendment. So they play these games where they just
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assume these powers and then it's up to you to
stop it, and to somehow stop it using other levers
of government, as they continue to say that they have
those powers when they don't really have them. That's the
whole fraud behind this. But it really is ye, it
really is about power. It really is about depopulation. I mean,
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I remember when this whole thing started. I was in
high school when they started had the first Earthday, and
I remember it was all about depopulation. And my friends
who bought into all this stuff, they were just constantly
wringing their hands. There's too many people. There's too many people.
There's too many and Paul Erlick is out there, how
do we get rid of people? Well, wars are good,
but disease is even better, you know, And so we
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need to have all these different ways that we can
kill people. But the governments look at it and although
they like to kill people, they like to control the
people who are still alive as well. And so I
think it really checks all the boxes for the people
in power. It gets them exactly what they want. And
of course it's checked the boxes where a lot of
people made a lot of money off of this stuff.
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What does it look like they're lining up to do
now with this some what kind of financial schemes are
they rolling out.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
On the climate change front?
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Well, a lot of the governments of the world are
moving ahead of this, ahead on this without us for now, right.
And the assumption is, as I just explained, they're saying
this openly. The assumption is that they'll just impose this
on the United States later. So they've got several really
significant financial arrangements and they got a lot of these
into the cop Thirty one point three trillion dollars a
year is the number that they put in the final agreement,
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agreed to by consensus. By the way, the United States
wasn't there to object so implicitly, since we're still part
of the unf Triple C. We agreed to This is
something nobody wants to talk about, but it's true. One
point three trillion in well three distribution per year by
the year twenty thirty five. So we're talking ten years
from now, they're going to be extracting one point three
trillion dollars from whatever's left of the American middle class,
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if we still have one, whatever's left of the middle
class in Europe. That's in addition to a tripling of
climate adaptation finance, which is basically bribing third world kleptocracies
to pretend like they're adapting to climate change by putting
money in their Swiss bank accounts and buying nicer limousines,
building themselves nicer mansions and things like this.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Yeah, that's exactly rights.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
And so Joe Biden agreed to a loss and damage
fund him and John Kerrey, where we're going to be
paying climate reparations.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I got, apart from all.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
These other things, and a huge development that almost nobody
in the American media talked about. They're now integrating carbon markets.
So the European Union and the Marxist Brazilian government came
up with this big special event.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
They got a new agreement.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
I forget the whole title of it was like open
carbon market, transparent reform mechanis something where they are bringing
together the European Union carbon market, the Brazilian carbon market,
the Chicom carbon market. They're all going to start using
the same standard so that they can all be integrated,
so that a carbon credit in the European Union is
the same as a carbon credit in Brazil is the
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same as a carbon credit eventually in the United States
of America, when they think they can pass this abomination
on us and for all people who think this isn't
a threat for the next three and a half years
while we have Trump in office, I would just remind
everybody that there's a lot of people in the administration
who have publicly expressed support for these things in the past.
Howard Lutnik, the Commerce Secretary, has actually been deeply involved
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in creating the infrastructure for the carbon markets. Elon Musk
has been black bring about carbon markets for years and
it be a big boon to Tesla, but he has
suggested that carbon markets carbon taxes are a really efficient
way of reducing our carbon emissions. You've got a lot
of people in the administration, and I'm sure Scott bescent
is among them who think these kinds of ideas are
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good and proper.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Son to George Soros, Yeah, absolutely, of course.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
And the CFR, the Council on Foreign Relations, I mean,
the guys I think through and through suspect. But we
need to realize that this is this is not a
threat that's over. And I think that's one of the
dangerous narratives that has gone through the alternative media in
recent years, is like, oh, we won, all right, you know.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Let's go back to focusing on more important things.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
The climate change hoax is still the pretext, not a pretext,
the pretext for completely restructuring the global economy, completely undermining
national sovereignty and transferring power and authority to the UN
and bringing all the religions of the world together so
that we can save mother Earth. And nothing has changed
about that. They've just stop talking about it in the
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fake media in America, that's right.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
And when you look at Lutnik, you know the fact
that he wants to common you know, I think about.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
It, how do we get the EU?
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Well, it all began with the common market, right, it
agains with economic unification, and then before you know it,
you've got a common currency. Well, what's that common currency
going to be. It's going to be some stable coins
that are being done by Lutnik, so they can monitor
everybody's use and stop you from being able to spend
if you don't, you know, do it the right way.
So it's basically the way that they're going to bring
in the CBDC. When you look at people getting very
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upset about this, it's primarily the power bills, and they're
going to continue escalating these power bills by leaps and
bounds for the purpose of artificial intelligence. And so they're
going to have that fight. They're going to build that
up as a necessity, and you know, once they get
that in, they're going to use that to impose all
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of these these carbon markets and carbon credits and everything
for individuals. And that's really where this is all headed.
It is the perfect I talked about it as being
the mcguffin, you know, Hitchcock always had. He said, it
doesn't really matter what it is that they're chasing. It
could be a multie falcon or whatever. They've got a
different eject, you know, that's what we're using as our
(30:13):
plot device for the movie. And so they got these
different plot devices, and they just keep moving them around,
but they always seem to go in the same direction.
You know, we had the COVID mcguffin. It was all
about getting some kind of a vaccine ID so they
could track you in that type. So we've got to
have the infrastructure to be able to track people's movements.
(30:34):
We've got to have the digital biometric infrastructure so we
can see what they've done and keep records on people.
So they always have this. It always comes back to
the same solution for all these different mcguffins, and they
just have a different panic mode that they're trying to
put people into.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
It truly is amazing, yep, absolutely, And you know, fear
is of course one of the tools. Be afraid of
climate change, be afraid of a COVID, afraid of you
know whatever the pretext is, be afraid of drugs, be
afraid of you know some people group in another part
of the world that so lives in caves. You know,
whatever it takes to make you very scared so that
you'll give up more of your money, more your freedom.
(31:13):
And so this is the oldest trick in the book, right,
I mean, you can go back two hundred years. Look
at Frederic Bastiat, the great French philosopher lawmaker, said that
these totalitarians are constantly concocting the poison and the antidote
in the same laboratory.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Right.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Climate change is the ultimate example of that.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Create a fake crisis over here and then create fake
solutions to the fake crisis over here, and pressed that
you take away people's money and freedom.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
How about that?
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Frederick Bastiat knew about the dark winter and operational word
feed long before it ever happened, right.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
He knew the pattern of politicians well enough to be
able to identify it.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Right.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
And unfortunately today people don't know this because they've been
brainwashing a government school. You know, they really don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Much of anything.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
They haven't been trained in logic, they haven't been trained
in history, they haven't been trained in analysis and reasoning.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
So, you know, someone on TV said.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Climate change is going to get you, and a big
percentage of the population says, oh, no, what do we
need to do master to save me from this boogeyman?
Speaker 1 (32:10):
And here we are, Yeah, and that gets us really,
I think to the real anecdote of this, and that
is education, which you focus on quite a bit. You've
written a book, The Indoctrinating Our Children to Death, and
of course you also have a blog, The Newman Report
is that on substack.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
The Newman Report is on Freedom Project our substack. People
can find it at Liberty Sentinel and we'd love to
have people sign up.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Two times a week we send out the most important
stuff that we're working on.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
So that's great.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah, yeah, what what do you see happening in terms
of education?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Where's your.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Whe're the threats that you see developing or do you
see any good news in education?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Well, there's good news and there's bad news.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
As you mentioned, you were kind enough to have me
on to talk about Indoctrinating Our Children to Death about
a year AGO's I think more relevant today than ever.
And amazingly it's been endorsed by you know, a lot
of great American patriots, including you, and so a lot
of the things that we warned about that we're going
to come in this book are now materializing. So we've
got another book coming out in January. I wrote it
(33:10):
with Robert Borton's he's the CEO of Classical Conversations. It's
the biggest homeschooling organization in the world, over one hundred
and thirty five thousand students, over a million graduates so far.
And the book is called Woken Weaponize, How Karl Marx
won the Battle for American education and how we can
take it back.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
And it does focus some on the history.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
You know, we go back to the first guys that
seriously proposed that the government ought to be educating our children.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
And they were occultist, they were.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Totalitarians, they were comedies, they were weirdos, they were talking
to spirit friends, and you know, we got smoking gun
evidence of all that.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
But we're still going on.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
So oh absolutely, and I mean they don't even hide
it anymore, right, Shirley mccoon, who George H. W. Bush
put in the Department of Education and start nationalizing education.
She's running around telling people she's talking to spirit ascended
masters who are giving her the secret wisdom into the
new Aide in the fifth dimension and of total bonkers.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
But that's what they're up to.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Well, you got you got General Flynn who is leading
people in prayers to ascended masters and the Seven Rays
or something like that. He was plagiarizing Elizabeth Claire, prophet
he's doing it. This is your awakened American things. So, yeah,
there's a lot of discernment that needs to be had
out there and a.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Lot of education.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
And that's what I like about your your book, Indoctrinating
Our Children to Death. You go into the history of
this and so we can see the trend lines and
where these people are coming from and what they said
they wanted to do. Very important. Yeah, so you've got
a new book coming out in January. That's great, Yes,
we do.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Yeah, and the big threat right now, you know, the
good news is millions of families are continuing to flee
from this corrupt, decaying government and doctrination system mask writing
as a school system.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
The bad news is the UN knows this.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
The globalists know this, and they've got a plan, and
we've got the reports where they outline their plans that
we're going to give you free money and all you
got to do is surrender your freedom and take our
tests and teach our curriculum.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
The UN actually just released a report.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
David, about three weeks ago, maybe a month ago now,
where they said homeschooling must if it's going to be allowed,
it must be under the control of government. They have
to be taught you and approved values, they have to
use you, and approved education content. It was literally prepared
under a North Korean communist and it says so in
the acknowledgments. So they are absolutely coming for our children.
(35:23):
And if we don't take this threat seriously, I think
all the other fights were engaged in. You know, we
might as well just raise the white flag because we're
going to lose over the long term. We've got to agree
with the education issue.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
I agree. It really is about the hearts and minds. Yeah,
I mean that that was what they kept saying during
Vietnam War. It's about the hearts and minds. Well, that's
what the education system is really about, the hearts and
minds of your children. They're coming after them, and it
is a war to take that. That's why you know
when you look at and again, they'll do it with money.
They always do it with money. And that's why I
(35:52):
was absolutely flabbergasid when people didn't get that, about the
lockdowns and about the COVID pandemic and everything is that.
Everybody would say, it's not Trump, it's the bad democratic governors.
And I said, he's paying people to do this he's
subsidizing the hospitals, and he's giving everybody else money for this.
That's the way they always get around the Tenth Amendment
or any illegal requirements. They give you money and then
(36:13):
you do whatever they want. Once they give you that money,
then you get accustomed to it.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
And they own the printing press.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
They've got infinite money, and they know that as long
as they can print some new money, you'll dance to
their tune.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
I mean, it's the greatest scam ever concocted in the
history of man.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Well, I tell you you know, Alex, I've said many
times it's going to be really really difficult for us
here in America once we lose that magic money tree,
that they can just print it all out of nothing. Right,
But that's the only way that you're going to break
the power of the federal government is if you break
the printing presses. And so it's going to be a
good news bad news thing. It's kind of like the
(36:49):
Silmer lining of the school like towns. I still think
it's funny to go back and look at people talking
about the pandemic and the ill effects of that, and
look at it.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Kept the school. It's kept the school schools for.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
A long time, and it's like, yeah, to me, that
was one of the big advantage, the only advantage of it,
the only silver lining that and the fact that people
could finally see what was happening in their child's classroom.
I can't tell you the number of times I've talked
to people and they say, yeah, yeah, I understand what's
going on over there in that other state, or maybe
even here in this state, or maybe even in my
particular school, but not in my kids classroom. Well, this
(37:24):
time they could actually see what was happening in the classroom,
and I think that was the big impetus. So the
co author, there's someone who's running classical conversations. That's an
excellent program. We didn't do that when we schooled our kids,
but it really is an excellent, rigorous curriculum there.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
It is.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Yeah, we've actually got our own kids enrolled in there.
That's how I originally connected with them. Such a good program.
Watching the kids going out of this, they're so far
ahead of the poor victims of the government schools.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
It makes you want to cry.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
But you know, if you're a parent and you're looking
for a good program to get your children a real education.
That's the one.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Check it out, classical conversation.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
I agree, Yeah, I think it's got a lot of
great content in it. Well, it's always great having you
on and again people can find you at Liberty Sentinel,
is that correct.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Liberty Sentinel dot org.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
And then the New American dot com is where most
of our climate coverage is going to be. So for
the folks out there who haven't signed up for the
magazine and encourage them to do that at least the
free daily headlines, the Neewamerican dot com and then my website, Yeah,
Liberty Sentinel dot org.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Okay, and I just remember the name of that guy,
Steve Malloy. Steve Malloy was one to talk about a
junks science dot com. I worked with Steve prior to
Info Wars and he's a really good guy and he's
really had his finger to the pultse of what's going
on with the environmental stuff, just as you have. Thank
you so much for joining us, and it's always a
(38:42):
pleasure talking to you, Alex. And let us know when
you got that new book on, like to talk to
you about that when it's ready.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Absolutely, Thank you so much. It's an honor and a
pleasure to be here. Thank you, David, God bless you.
And Merry Christmas.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Thank you, Mery Christmas to you as well. We'll be
right back, folks, to stay with us, oh,
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