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October 9, 2025 181 mins
00:10:00 – The 10th Amendment Crisis
Knight explains how Trump’s use of the Insurrection Act violates state sovereignty and sets a precedent for federal militarization. Republican senators like Murkowski and Tillis express concern but remain too afraid to confront Trump directly.

00:21:13 – ICE Snipers and the War on Protest
Video evidence shows ICE agents firing pepper balls at peaceful protesters and clergy. Knight argues this militarized policing proves Trump’s contempt for civil liberties and the Bill of Rights.

00:30:44 – Artificial Integrity: Pam Bondi & Cash Patel
Knight coins the term “artificial integrity” to describe Trump’s loyalists like Pam Bondi and Cash Patel, accusing them of evasion, dishonesty, and political theater during congressional hearings about Comey and Epstein.

00:37:36 – Marjorie Taylor Greene Breaks with Trump
Knight highlights Greene’s public statement rejecting blind loyalty to Trump and defending her independence. He praises her rare courage, contrasting it with the cowardice of most GOP officials.

00:41:00 – FBI Spies on Republican Senators
Revelation that the FBI secretly accessed phone records of eight Republican senators triggers outrage. Knight mocks their hypocrisy for ignoring mass surveillance until it targeted them personally.

00:44:24 – Trump Jr.’s Pharma Grift
Trump Jr. joins the board of a prescription delivery company set to profit from a Trump administration drug summit. Knight calls it blatant graft disguised as “health reform.”

00:52:21 – Gold Surges Past $4,000
Knight reports that gold has shattered the $4,000 mark, framing it as a collapse of faith in fiat currencies rather than a rise in gold’s intrinsic value. He warns of a global debt time bomb and urges listeners to hold physical metals, not paper ETFs.

01:21:21 – EU Approves Mass Chat Surveillance
Knight exposes the EU’s “Chat Control 2.0,” a regulation scanning all private messages under the pretext of child safety. He compares it to FDR’s telegram surveillance and calls it the death of digital privacy in Europe.

01:36:33 – Lagarde Pushes Digital Euro
Christine Lagarde complains democracy is too slow for the rollout of a CBDC. Knight calls her “Christine the God,” saying she and von der Leyen are accelerating Europe’s technocratic takeover under the guise of efficiency.

01:37:52 – California’s Pre-Hate Crime Bill
Knight highlights California’s new hate speech law as the U.S. version of European censorship. He warns it criminalizes “potential hate” and mirrors Soviet-style repression disguised as tolerance.

01:53:08 – Outlawing Hate & Christian Persecution
Knight and callers discuss how outlawing hate only drives resentment underground. They argue Christians and white males have become the primary targets of Western censorship and discrimination campaigns.

01:57:00 – Biden’s CIA Cover-Up in Ukraine
Segment details Biden’s effort to suppress intelligence on his family’s Ukrainian corruption ties while pressuring prosecutors to halt investigations—evidence of long-standing collusion between the CIA and political elites.

02:03:22 – “Precious Freedom” and the Lies of Vietnam
Author James Bradley joins to discuss his book Precious Freedom, which reexamines the Vietnam War through the eyes of both Americans and Vietnamese. He describes unraveling decades of U.S. propaganda and explains how Vietnamese victory stemmed from defending their homeland—not ideology.

02:17:03 – The Fake North–South Vietnam Narrative
Bradley reveals that the U.S. and CIA fabricated the idea of “two Vietnams,” turning a temporary French withdrawal line into a false border to justify intervention. Knight compares it to modern media deception surrounding COVID and other political lies.

02:28:14 – Mothers, Media, and Awakening to War
The character Betty, a patriotic mother, mirrors America’s awakening as she discovers suppressed speeches by Muhammad Ali and Martin Luther King Jr. condemning the war. Knight and Bradley discuss how media censorship concealed moral opposition.

02:37:42 – CIA, Opium, and the War Machine
Knight and Bradley expose General Westmoreland’s alleged role in global opium trafficking and how CIA operations in Vietnam, Laos, and Italy funded covert wars. They argue mainstream media knowingly concealed this vast corruption network.

02:40:49 – The Night War Vietnam Story
Bradley explains that America never “won a single 24-hour period” in Vietnam. The Vietcong fought exclusively at night while U.S. troops retreated daily, contradicting the myth that the U.S. “won every battle.”

02:43:55 – Lessons for America’s Future Wars
Bradley likens Ho Chi Minh to George Washington, saying defenders always win when fighting for home. Kni
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a
revolutionary act. It's the David Knight Show. As the clock
strikes thirteen, it's Thursday, ninth of October. You're of our Lord,
twenty twenty five. Well, we're going to take a look
today at more at Trump's civic war will become a

(00:53):
civil war. We have the courts considering the legality of this.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
We have officers who are looking at whether they should
obey unlawful orders. We have states looking at the Tenth Amendment.
And we have we the people looking at military martial
law on the streets. And then as all of this
is happening, we have the EU in California ramping up
the surveillance and the censorship. In the third hour, we're

(01:19):
going to have an interview with James Bradley, the author
of Flags of Our Fathers that was made into a
movie by Clint Eastwood. He has another war book. This
one is called Personal Freedom. It is a fictional narrative
rather than a nonfiction book as the others were. It's
a fictional narrative of both sides of the Vietnam War. It
should be very interesting to talk to him. He spent

(01:41):
ten years in Vietnam doing research for this book, say
what this will be right back? Well again, Donald Trump

(02:12):
is ramping things up, and you have to look at it,
and you know how much of this is theater, circus
and chaos, and how much of it is just really
trying to push us into a fourth turning conflict. But
it is all setting up regardless of what it is,
it is setting up dangerous precedents yet again, and this
really has been Trump's role to set precedents. It's the

(02:35):
precedent that destroys the constitution, the rule of law, the
separation of powers, and in our civilian government. Trump has
called for the jailing of the Chicago mayor, the Illinois governor.
And this is a comment, commentary, opinion piece from media
it and I really agreed with it. I said, this

(02:56):
is not theater, it's not a tweetable grievance. It is
an unpressed than an assault on constitutional norms, on federalism,
and on the rule of law. Yet the media's reaction
in certain circles will almost certainly be muted, absolutely should
not be and cannot be. What's even worse about this, again,
this is something that's published on a left leaning site.

(03:19):
Is the cheering that I see happening on the conservative sites,
the announcement on truth on social on Wednesday. So Chicago
mayor should be in jail for failing to protect ice officers.
Governor Pritzker. Also, you know, we haven't had a president
who went around elected officials since Abraham Lincoln. It is

(03:42):
very disconcerting to see how Donald Trump is falling into
the pattern of those other two disastrous forth turning presidents
Lincoln and FDR. Americans have become numb, numb to insults,
numb to threats, numb to authoritarian in theater masquading as politics.

(04:03):
Federal troops on state soil without the governor's consent, that
triggers the Posse Comitatis Act, that tests the Insurrection Act.
That should make lawyers, historians, and journalists set up straight,
but too often it doesn't. Too often it's just background noise.
Trump's threat is more than personal theater. It is a

(04:23):
blueprint for the normalization of authoritarianism. It is a public
declaration that elected officials can be bullied, criminalized, intimidated for
political reasons, and the media, conditioned by years of pejorative outrage,
risks failing to signal just how dangerous this is. And
of course we look at elected officials being bullied, criminalized,

(04:44):
intimidated for political reasons. This has been a left right
march with both Biden and now with Trump, and they
hand the baton to each other and they take it
to the next level, each of them escalating this. And
I when this soul was happening, I said Trump should
de escalate this. Yes, people who did wrong should be prosecuted,

(05:07):
but it should be seen as restoring the rule of
law rather than taking it to the next level to
show his personal power by bullying people and making it
about a personal vendetta. But that's what it has become
in many cases, and that's the way that he is
responding to this as well. He's going to take a
personal vendetta against other politicians who get in his way.

(05:28):
I just have to say and repeat it over and
over again when you look at these people, when you
look at like Pam Bondi, Cash, Mattel, Dan Bongino, these
people who are telling lies for Trump and doing all
kinds of things to support him. The Supreme Court has
said that the executive has some immunity, not them, and

(05:51):
so we'll see what happens to them. They may be
hoisted by their own petard, so to speak. In the
coming years, must explain why this is not politics as usual,
Why this is not a rhetorical flourish, why it is
a breach of constitutional norms. Headlines like Trump ramps up

(06:11):
his rhetoric or chaos in Chicago do a disservice to
readers and viewers. The public deserves contexts and clarity. They
deserve a sense of the stakes involved. History will judge
how journalists respond. Will we recognize this for what it
is a direct assault on the democratic order, or will
we shrug and move on and have to say, I

(06:33):
don't know who this guy is. It's writing for media,
but the who did that? Did we just shrug and
move on from the COVID stuff? That was a huge
precedent in so many cases, everybody everywhere, even the people
who recognized how awful it was and how counterproductive it was,

(06:55):
how it destroyed our economy, killed people, set new precedents
for government power. While of those people still just walked away.
Certainly the politicians did because they all had a hand
in it. They're not going to come after each other.
But it's amazing to me how people just walked away
and shrugged their shoulders, Glad it's over. Huh. Trump's call

(07:17):
to jail the governor and the mayor is not just
a provocation. It is a warning, and it is a
test of the media's courage. And so was twenty twenty.
I don't know, like I said, I don't think these
people had anything at all to say about that. So again,

(07:38):
the truth social that got all the headlines yesterday. It
comes as his administration faces legal challenges by officials to
block the deployment of National Guard to Chicago and other
urban areas. Hundreds of troops from the Texas National Guard
gathered at Army training center in Illinois on Tuesday despite
objections from local officials. Pritcheker said, I will not back down.

(08:00):
Trump is now calling for the arrest of elected representatives,
and on Tuesday, Pritzker took a jab at Trump an
event in Minneapolis, saying that the president is deploying the
units because he's out of his mind and has dementia. No,
that's not it. That's not it. It's much worse than that.
He's this is like giving him an excuse, like well,

(08:22):
he was fooled by these people. You know he was
it was a deep state fooled him in twenty twenty. No,
it's not he wasn't fooled. It's not dementia. This is
his character. This is his personality, and we should not
be offering ridiculous excuses like that.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
It's kind of like those uh miss me yet things.
Remember when the president was just seen Isle.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Right, it was much worse than Scenisle.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
This is.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
It's absolutely insane. This is a man who has something
stuck in his head and he can't get it out
of his head. He doesn't read, he doesn't know anything
up to date. It's just something in the recesses of
his brain that is efectuating to have him call out
these cities. Unfortunately, he has the power of the military,
the power of the federal government to do his bidding,
and that is what he is doing. So that part

(09:11):
of it, I think is correct. He said he has
not had any conversations with his staff or other Democrat
governors regarding a so called soft secession, a political and
legal theory that has grown during Trump's second term in
which Democrat states would gradually withdraw their cooperation with the
federal government, including withholding financial support without formally leaving the Union,

(09:32):
which would really set these guys off. Like I said,
you know when Marder Tillergreen talks about signed for a
national divorce, just to understand that you're married to an abuse,
a violent maniac who will try to kill you if
you divorce him. That's the federal government, that's our federal head,
if you will. It truly is insane the time that

(09:56):
we live in right now. But that's the issue. This
violates the law of the Constitution, and hopefully the Supreme
Court will call this down, but it's very important. The
principle is the separation of power and of the Tenth Amendment.
And we even have some Republican senators who are making
that point now, as afraid as they are of Trump.

(10:18):
And I got to say, you know, the way that
you handle a bully is not to keep bowing to him.
Somebody's got to walk up and punch him in the
face rhetorically, and I hope some of these senators do.
They're starting to get the courage to take a swing
at him every once in a while, but they don't
really land a punch. The last time the Insurrection Actors
invoked was by George hw Bush during the La Riots

(10:41):
of ninety two, And that's the kind of thing that
you would expect, right if you've got a city that
is it's burning, But these are not. Yeah, crime is
high in these areas, but again that's something for the
people to handle, and if they don't want to handle it,
as we were talking about yesterday, Travis, it's like trying

(11:02):
to send some trying to send the US military into
a rock to make order out of it, or Afghanistan
when the people there don't want it, they don't want democracy,
they don't care about having it enough to fight for it.
And that was with the support of the California governor
at the time, Pete Wilson. It was also used in

(11:25):
Chicago in nineteen sixty eight by LBJ to curb rioting
there of the assassination of Martin Luther King and the
backing of Mayor Daily there but for the acting governor,
Samuel Shapiro. So both the mayor and the governor supported
that those are riots that were part of the convention,

(11:48):
the Democrat convention leading up to It's one of the
reasons why LBJ did not run again. But again, these
are massive riots in the city. The last time it
was invoked over the opposition of a sitting government was
a governor, was in nineteen sixty five when Johnson used
it to federalize troops to protect civil rights marchers and Montgomery,
Alabama over the objections of segregationist George Wallace. And of

(12:12):
course the violence done against the marchers and Montgomery, Alabama
was how Morris d'es got involved, the guy of the
Southern Poverty Law Center. Not that he came after the
Ku Klux Klan. Morris Deese represented the Ku Klux Klan
who was burning the buses and beating the protesters. That's

(12:32):
where Morse Deese, the Southern Poverty Law Center founder. That's
how he got started in this. And after he defended
the Ku Klux Klan, he started doing direct mail for
about a decade and then out of that grew the
Southern Poverty Law Center. Eisenhower also famously invoked the Act
in nineteen fifty seven toward the Arkansas National Guard to
stand down from its orders from the governor at the

(12:56):
time to prevent segregation of Little Rock's public schools. Funds
sume courts Brown versus Board of Education ruling. Eisenhower also
deployed the Army's one hundred and first Airborne Division to
protect the black students who are attending classes. So, the
two times that we have had in recent history, say
last century, we have had the president overruling the governor

(13:20):
has been to protect the civil rights there and this
is and then we've had a couple of situations where
they've had the Insurrection Act that was done to stop
rioting in Chicago or LA. This doesn't match any of
those types of things. It's a completely separate category. It's

(13:40):
a very important and dangerous president. GOP. Senators are increasingly
anxious about Trump's aggressive use of the National Guard. Republican
senators said that the conflict between federal and state authorities
has escalated dramatically. Over the weekend, Trump moved to send
National Guard soldiers to Illinois and Oregon, despite opposition from

(14:02):
their governors. His use of the military force was all
the more controversial because of a Trump appointed federal judge
and Oregon that was the one that he appointed when
he was Their previous term has said this violates the
Tenth Amendment. Senate Republicans now want to support Trump's efforts
to crack down on illegal immigration, but they said the

(14:22):
president's actions are raising alarming questions about states rights. No,
states do not have rights. States have powers. Let's to
understand that institutions do not have rights. The federal government
doesn't have any rights. The state doesn't have any rights.
People have rights. Why, because we're created in the image

(14:43):
of God. Humans have rights. States do not. Institutions do not.
I hate to see that term states' rights, but they
have powers, and those powers are there to prevent the
consolidation of power. And if Trump is about any thing
is about consolidation of power, very much like FDR, that

(15:04):
should very much concern you. And look these as we
had the interview yesterday with the author who did the
FDR biography, FDR Political Life, and as we're talking about that,
you could see that there are a lot of Democrats
who had opposed FDR restructuring the government and violating the Constitution.

(15:27):
Even though they agreed with what he wanted to accomplish
at that time, they understood that the end does not
justify the means. And the question is are we going
to have any Republicans who will understand that? And will
we have any Republicans who are not overcome with fear
about Trump of focusing on them and becoming a target

(15:52):
of intimidation like Trump. So they have questions about states,
let's just say powers, presidential authority, and the precedent of
deploying National Guard troops across state lines. Tom Tillis, who
I'm not a fan of, this is the thing again.
This has made some very strange bad fellows for us.

(16:16):
And you have to look at this and say, when
you see the same side with some of these people,
wait a minute, am I wrong about this? They're on
the side in many cases simply because they oppose Trump,
not necessarily because they got the principles right, but they
can say the right things. And I said, this is
one of the things that is concerning is the fact

(16:36):
that Trump is making heroes out of people like the
Chicago mayor and the Illinois governor who are hardcore bad people,
wrong on pretty much every issue. I mean, these people
are collectivist, socialists, you name it. And Tom Tillis is
also somebody that I have not supported for a very

(16:59):
long time, a Republican senator from North Carolina. He said,
if you look at this particular issue, I don't see
how you can argue that this comports with any sort
of conservative view of states rights. And again, this is
somebody who, even though he's Republican, he's not a conservative,
and he has declared that he's not going to be

(17:20):
running for reelection, so it's safe for him to come
out and criticize Trump. And then you have some of
the other people who come out to criticize Trump are
people who are trying to I think more than anything,
if they're going to stay in You got people like
Murkowski and Collins, other liberal Republicans who just want to

(17:41):
get some space between them and Trump because he's so toxic,
and so they live in states they're not heavily Republican,
and they got to maintain a little bit of distance
from Trump, so it works out for them to criticize him.
Lisa Murkowski said she's worried about the president of sending
National Guard members from one state to another, despite the

(18:01):
objections of those states governors. It's one thing if a
governor asks and says, hey, I need help, she said,
but I'm concerned. I'm very apprehensive about the use of
our military for policing and more the politicization that we
are seeing within the military. This is not the role
of our military, she said. Fellow Republican senators don't want
to clash with the president, but that they're also sympathetic

(18:24):
to states' rights. Again, they're afraid of precedent Trump, and
again it is the state's power as defined by the
Tenth Amendment. It even says those powers are not delegated
to the federal government, not those rights. There's a complete misreading.
And you know, we've seen people like Obama say the

(18:45):
Bill Rights is really there as negative rights, and no,
it's there's restrictions against the government. The government doesn't have
any rights. And so it's important words mean things, and
these concepts mean things. So we need to keep about this.
The difference between rights and privileges and rights and powers
make all the difference in the world. One Republican senator

(19:09):
who requested anonymity, they see they're afraid of Trump, so
that Trump's attempts to circumvent restrictions on his deployment and
National Guard troops and Democrat states raises quote questions. I
think he's just poking his finger in their eye, said
the senator. Well, you know, he's poking his finger in
the eye of the constitutions, poking his finger in the

(19:32):
Bill Rights. Has nothing but contempt for the Bill Rights.
There's nothing but contempt for due process and for the
rule of law and for individual rights. And so of
course he doesn't care about the Tenth Amendment either. Oregon
Senator Ron Wyden, a Democrat, noted the judge was confirmed

(19:53):
with strong bidipartisan support. The judge who is opposing him,
she was appointed by Trump, but the and got bipartisan support.
So there's no question that the Trump administration flouted immergoots
Saturday Order. Senator Ram Paul said he's not a fan
of deploying federal troops into American cities, but he argued

(20:17):
that there is a supremacy of federal authority when it
comes to protecting federal property. Well, still, the federal government
is specifically prohibited from suppressing peaceful demonstrations. And so when
we look at this, these snipers on the roof of

(20:38):
the ice building, Again, as we pointed out, this is
not something that this happened a couple of was a
week or so ago, I think it was. But here's
the video I showed you the pictures of these guys
up on the roof shooting down from the top of
the roof at people who were hollering at that. You

(20:58):
know that's allowed in form of right there. Okay, we'll
play that again. Right there. You see there's a guy
in black, he's got his hands lifted up. He was
a priest and a collar. He said he was offering
a prayer and they shot him right there, shot him
in the face of the pepper ball. That's uh, that's
your government right there. So anyway, so that's protecting their

(21:22):
federal authority? Is it protecting their federal property? I'm sorry,
that doesn't cut it.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
I also have the other video of the sniper shooting
down at the protesters.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah, go ahead and play that. Yeah, they aren't there.

Speaker 5 (21:39):
They're up there shooting pecking rubber.

Speaker 6 (21:41):
Bullets down at this crowd and listen, they do shit,
but just standing there clipping them all.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
You were allowed to peacefully protest and redress your grievances.
When they say, well, they were blacking some vehicles from
getting in there, well you know you can move them
from there. But it's all about the amount of force
that you use, isn't it. Let's say that people are

(22:10):
blocking the vehicle and you decide you're just going to
run over them with your m wrap. Would that be justified?
It would be to Breitbart, it would be to WND,
it would be to people like Mike Huckabee, who cares. Right,
you're my way, get out of here. You don't count,
You're not a human. Well anyway, ran Paul criticized Democrat

(22:31):
mayors for supporting soft on crime policies, which you argue
have triggered federal intervention. I think that we can say
that the soft on crime stuff cuts both ways, and
I think has been going on for quite some time.
I think both the federal government as well as local
governments have been releasing dangerous criminals over and over again.

(22:52):
So why don't we start before we start the police,
the militarized police brutilizing people on the street. Why don't
we first start trying to fix the courts and do
some bureaucratic adjustments here. Look at Chicago, the murder capital
of the US. People live in utter despair, and they

(23:13):
voted for the Democrats for seventy years, said ram Paul.
It's right for the President to point out and to
try to offer help. I think the Democrats would be
better off actually accepting this help. Yeah, but he's not
right to force it. That's the whole point. He's not
offering to help. He is demanding that he's going to
go in there because this is about a personal vendetta,

(23:35):
and anybody understands that that looks at this, he's going
to go in and make Chicago safe for democracy. Remember
that clip where we had the big militarize raid on
the apartment building and there was a lady that lived
there and she said, you know, she's a Chicago resident.
Of course they got a lot of violence, but she
says the first time that a gun was stuck in

(23:56):
her face, and that took the federal government to do that,
and throw flash bangs and apartments where kids are and
take the kids out and put them in the zip
tie handcuffs, separating from their parents. Susan Collins a moderate
who's up for re election next year in a Democrat

(24:17):
leaning state, and so it's easy for her to come
out and try to put some space between her and trumpets.
Necessary for her to do this, she pointed to Chicago's
crime problem and the sky high murder rate, but she
said deploying National Guard troops works much better when the
governor is in concert with the president. You know, I
think everything would work much better if we were in

(24:39):
concert with the constitution. How about that. Senate Majority Leader
John Thunne, Republican, told reporters Monday that he was briefed
on the deployment of California and Texas Guard troops. He said,
if there are federal personnel who are threatened, then I
think the president has a right to protect them. But

(24:59):
he said he expects the Trump administration to follow the
judge's rulings, noting district court rulings will be appealed to
the appellate courts and perhaps to the Supreme Court. So
that's where we are, folks. So this is a very
dangerous time. Not only is it for turning, but this
is the types of things that you would expect to
see in four turning. It's the type of stuff that

(25:20):
we saw with Abraham Lincoln, unfortunately, and it's the kind
of stuff that we saw in a more in a
less confrontational way behind the scenes. FDR was doing it,
but Trump is in the face of people. And so
that's the difference. You know, when you have a complete
restructuring a government like FDR dead, or if you just

(25:42):
want to get in people's face. You can have a
civil war. See a comment here from Guard Goldsmith's good
to see a Guard liberty conspiracy. He says, I'm anxious
to know how an act, the so called Insurrection Act,
supersedes an article in the Constitution. It's not possible.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
Trump.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yes, that's right, that's right. Whenever they create and I
say we got this law, we have this act or whatever,
well it's always subject of what the Constitution says. And
when you overturn the very straightforward simple things in the Constitution,
as Trump has done over and over again, I've never
seen in my lifetime a president who has more open

(26:23):
contempt for it. I mean, when the Democrats ignore the Constitution,
they'll always do something like, well, you know, I really
support the Second Amendment, but I don't support this particular
thing here or that gun there, you know, and so
you see the hypocrisy with it. But Trump just comes
out and says, now, we don't want to I could
do any of this stuff. I want to Trucker Chris
for the wind so as I can see Trump using

(26:45):
troops to stifle protests against wars for Israel, Oh yeah, well,
I mean he hasn't that far from it, right. He's
used the economic thing right now, which is what Maga
didn't want to say that he was involved in any
the COVID stuff. It was all about the money. It's
the same type of thing he's doing to Harvard in
other colleges that are allowing free speech protests on their campus.

(27:09):
It was always about the money. But if the money
doesn't work, you'll get the jack boot and the fist
in the face. So you might take that one. Trauns.

Speaker 5 (27:17):
Yeah, by tyrants seventeen seventy six. The States created the
cancer of federal government. They can abolish it and they should.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yes, yes, So you know the question is, well, will
there'd be a blowback against Trump or people just kind
of sheepishly go along. So far the Republicans are just
sheepishly going along. They need to stand up and do
the right thing because if they don't, we're going to
be going into an authoritarian government brought on by a

(27:46):
civil war. In my opinion, We're going to take a
quick break and we will be right.

Speaker 6 (27:50):
Back making sense common again.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
You're listening to the David Knight Show.

Speaker 7 (29:37):
Wait a minute, where am I?

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Sorry?

Speaker 8 (29:40):
Jefferson, the scoundrels who put America on Central Bank fiat
currency used our heads on their coins as some sort
of trophy. Despicable.

Speaker 9 (29:49):
This is outrageous, Washington. I spent my life fighting centralized power.
Now the Federal Reserve monopoly parades us around on their
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Speaker 2 (30:44):
Well, I want to talk about AI, and I'm not
talking about artificial intelligence. I'm talking about artificial integrity. This
is what we're saying from Pambondy and from cash Hotel
and the rest of these people and the Trump administration
artificial integrity. BONDI having a full meltdown over simple questions
about Trump. And I played some of the back and

(31:05):
forth of that yesterday. I won't repeat those, but to
she went for the juggler and went for ad hominem
attacks of people. Even the absurdity of saying to one
of the individuals, well you got donations from a guy
who hung around with Jeffrey Epstein. He didn't come back
at her. He could have said, you work for a

(31:27):
guy who was his best friend for fifteen years. Who
knows what they were up to. But anyway, she is
simply has lost all credibility.

Speaker 5 (31:38):
I think I like going for ad hominem attacks, but
they're never very good at them. I could give them
a lesson.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
That's right, that's right, I see. So her approach was
to fight back. And yet again, when you look at
this and you look at the statements, when these guys
go before Congress, they've got to be looking over their
shoulder at the charges they brought against James Comy. But

(32:05):
I think that it's kind of interesting. I think that
the Trump administration doesn't think they're going to win that case.
If you look at the people that they brought in,
they couldn't find any prosecutors in the district that wanted
to do that. And actually he brought in to run
this prosecution. He brought in his own personal lawyer, Trump did,
who has never done any trial work whatsoever, certainly not

(32:29):
as a prosecutor or as a defender. She has been
an insurance lawyer or something. And so they don't even
have any experienced people. Anybody who's experienced doesn't want to
end their career on this hill. It's pretty amazing. And
the fact that this is all about optics and politics

(32:52):
and theatrics was kind of admitted by Cash Battel. You
can't pen cash Battel down on anything. That should be
a warning flag that the guy has got no integrity
when he won't give you a straight answer. So you know,
he was there for hours beating around the bush and
giving partial answers to people and clever studied evasive answers,

(33:14):
even to the extent that when they asked him, did
you fire somebody because they went to a purple could
call me, he goes, well, people have to do what
they're told him. If they don't, they're dismissed. He wouldn't
answer the question, but in a sense he did.

Speaker 5 (33:25):
So here's a bit of an ad hominem. Cash is
as crooked as his nose.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Is every time they see a picture of him, he
looks like he's thunned. You know, he's gone headlights. It's
kind of like Adam Shift is the same way. You know,
both of them looked like they's constantly surprised.

Speaker 5 (33:42):
You know what's going on.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Anyway, when you look at this, what they're doing with Epstein,
it's not fooling anybody. And the longer they do this,
the deeper the hole that they are digging. Ty Cobb,
who at one point in time was Trump's lawyer. When
the law fair was absurd against him, he brought in
Ty Cobb and he says that Bondi is the most

(34:06):
reprehensible attorney general in US history. Well, certainly in my lifetime,
I guess. And that's saying something because we've had some
real stinkers that have been out there. He was on
CNN and he said, hold on.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
When you think about it, though, it's a mixture of
two words. Attorney attorneys are reprehensible, evil, wicked general most
of our generals are reprehensible, evil and wicked. They merged
these two things, and so now you know, you get
some of the worst people imaginable.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
So there might be some good attorneys in some generals,
but she's generally bad as an attorney. I think, referencing
Bondi's testimony, he said, I think we saw today from
the Attorney General how low the representatives of the Justice
Department will go. So she said, he said, she said.
Aaron Burnett was interviewing him. She said, what did you

(34:53):
make of Bondi today? The point of her presentation clearly
was to show disgust and disregard, right, Is that what
she wanted to convey? Is that why she was just
going to all these personal attacks? And he goes, because
this is what she conveyed. Have you seen something like
that before? He said, never. I think today she achieved
one thing. She knocked John Mitchell off the perch of

(35:15):
reprehensible attorney generals as number one, despite his guilty plea
and his time in jail. In other words, you know
what they're criticizing her for is that she's acting like Trump.
You know, she's decided that rather than having a cordial
exchange and a disagreement over issues or whatever, she's just
going to come out swinging personally against people, which she

(35:37):
learned not from or boss. Yeah, she tried to mislead
the MAGA faithful with regard to Epstein by saying, well,
we'll try to get the grand jury minutes, knowing that
there was nothing in the grand jury minutes that would
shed any light on this. It's all just a game
of deception, he said. This is basically designed to affect
the credibility of various institutions, department or in the Congress today.

(36:03):
The lack of respect that's being shown for the institution
that have driven America to the leadership of the world
is shocking, he said. But it is right out of
the authoritarian handbook. So again, what is going on with
Marjorie asked Trump. He's getting concerned because he is losing
reliable allies over the key issues, and this is going

(36:25):
to be the defining point. You know, it's an integrity test.
Like I said, is there going to be artificial integrity?
We have seen that from Cash matel from Dan Bongino,
from Pam Bondi. But I think when you look at
certainly Thomas Massey and we're starting to see it from
Marjorie Tiler Green, We're starting to stand up for some principles,

(36:46):
even if they have to stand against Trump. And of course,
if you're going to stand for principles, you will have
to stand against Trump. So he's very concerned about it.
You know, she's been you know, a person's been on
my side, and so now what is going on with
Marjorie he puts out says on the report from NBC News,

(37:06):
Green said, I'm not some sort of blind slave to
the president. I don't think anyone should be a serve
in Congress or a separate branch of government. And I'm
not elected by the President. I'm not elected by anyone
that works in the White House. I'm elected by my district.
That's who I work for. I got elected without the
President's endorsement, and you know, I think that has served
me really well. So I get to be independent as

(37:29):
a Republican, she said. And I think what helps Trump
the most is when he has people who are willing
to be honest with him, not just tell him what
they think he wants to hear. So, according to the
NBC correspondent Melanie Zanona, she said Green has become disillusioned
with the Republican Party because the White House discouraged her

(37:52):
bid to run for the US Senate. I don't think
it's that. I think it is the Epstein stuff, and
I think it's some of this other How could anybody
who have an ounce of integrity look at Trump, at
what he's doing and just go along with it? So
most of these Republicans are spineless jellyfish. Once a loyal

(38:12):
soldier for Trump, Marjorie Taylor Green is increasingly bucking her party.
This is from NBC News, So again, this is a
good thing. I hope that this is a growing opportunity
for her and if she can get past the partisan
loyalty and start to focus on representing the people in

(38:35):
her district, that would be very good. But that's not
what we're seeing from people like Mike Johnson. They're going
just the opposite way. And also Cash Mattel fires agents
involved in spying on the GOP senators. FBI ought to
be fired. That's the real issue, right They're protecting these institutions,

(38:57):
and these institutions have been up from the very beginning.
If you go back and look at what Jagger Hoover was.
If anybody that thinks that the FBI has any integrity
just doesn't know their history. The whole thing was set
up as a personal gestapo for this guy. And that's
what Truman said, and he knows what gestapos are because

(39:19):
he's the guy who created the National Security State, the CIA,
and the NSA. And when he says that the FBI
is a gestapo, youall to listen to him. He knows
gestapo's and he totally likes them, but he didn't like
the FBI. So this is what was interesting about this

(39:40):
was the outrage of Lindsey Graham to find out that
the FBI under the Democrats was targeting him and paying
attention to him. And he's he just lost it. I mean,
it's like he's ready to go to war. I know,
Lindsay is always ready to go to war, but he's
to go to war with the FBI. And so cash

(40:03):
takes you.

Speaker 5 (40:04):
Wonder what the FBI might have on the good old Lindsay.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
That's right. Well, they they tapped into the personal cell
phones for eight Republican senators and one member of the
House was also impacted. Uh and so when you look at.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
This, we have a video in the deck.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Yeah, yeah, let's play that here.

Speaker 12 (40:36):
It is just he may be a Russian agent or
Carter Page that is now no longer reliable. How does
that not get to the court Can you tell me
how that doesn't get to the court.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
You can't, ken you, I can't, Senator.

Speaker 8 (40:50):
Can you tell me why.

Speaker 12 (40:51):
My phone records? I'm the chairman of.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
The Judiciary, d I'm a senator. You're supposed to spy
on the a little agents.

Speaker 12 (41:01):
Why did they ask to know who I called and
what I was doing from January fourth to the seventh?

Speaker 7 (41:08):
Can you tell me that?

Speaker 2 (41:10):
No, Senator, and there were eight senators in total. Well,
there you go. See they're special. He wasn't really too
upset about what they're doing in all the January the
six people. But now they did that kind of stuff
to him, trying to investigate him. Well, it was Lindsay Graham.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
Funny, I've never seen a senator get that upset about
surveillance of Americans before, just one American in particular.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
But yeah, that's right. They don't care. And you know
these guys. Lindsey Graham was there when James Clapper was
asked by Ron White, you know you are you heast
dropping on Americans and surveilling them without a warrant? Well
not intentionally, senator, right, And that was a lie because
it was less than a month later that we had

(41:56):
the Snowden documents released and everybody could see what they
were doing deliberately, and you.

Speaker 5 (42:01):
Just accidentally created this giant surveillance state. We don't know
how it happened.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
For the five years I think it is, yeah, five years,
they did nothing. Lindsey Graham and none of these senators
some of them were not in Congress at that time.
Tommy Tuberville wasn't in there at the time, but none
of these senators like Lindsay Graham who were there at
the time, ever wanted to come after James Clapper for

(42:28):
lying to Congress. And so this is what you get.
And I said this for the longest time. I said,
these people in Congress, these politicians who sit there and
do not defend us against the surveillance state, will find
that they are valuable targets. They're going to be the
ones who are singled out for this stuff. So Senator

(42:49):
Lindsay Graham South Carolina, Bill Haggerty Tennessee, Josh Holly Missouri,
Dan Sullivan Alaska, Tommy Tuberville Alabama, Ron Johnson was Hansen
sent the a Lumus of Wyoming. I think it's Loomis
maybe Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee and Mike Kelly of Pennsylvania.
They were the ones who were singled out, and in

(43:13):
the article they have the FBI order there and heavily
redacted as well. Holly raged on as well. He said
Biden's FBI spied on my phone calls and tracked my
location like I was some kind of an American citizen
or something. But they didn't stop there. They also targeted parents,

(43:36):
pro lifers, and ninety two conservative organizations like Charlie Kirk's
TPA USA. We need a thorough investigation and there needs
to be prosecutions. Well, you need to get rid of
the FBI. It served us very well when for until
the early twentieth century we didn't have an FBI. We
don't need an FBI. And these people have abused their

(43:58):
power constantly. How many times do they have to be
caught before you do something about it. Trump wants to
overhaul the drug sales, and a company tied to his
son stands to benefit. That's another kind of integrity, kind
of integrity that people don't care about, the open graft
and corruption. Just as he's trying to openly create chaos

(44:19):
and conflict, he's also openly involved in and corruption. So
these are family members of his and of Commerce Secretary
Howard Lutnik, you know Lucky Lutnik. The country's top drug
makers are set to meet in early December at the
Four Seasons Hotel in Georgetown with Trump Junior and senior

(44:41):
Trump administration officials that regulate the pharmaceutical industry. Blink r X,
an online prescription drug delivery company that this year installed
Trump Junior as a board member. So I guess blink
Ourx you can think of it as Trump Rx Junior.
The summit will conclude with a dinner at the Executive Ranch,

(45:02):
the exclusive new club formed by Trump Junior and his
close friends, the club that you ain't in, you know,
according to people in knowledge of the event and in
a copy of the invitation viewed by the Wall Street Journal. So,
why doesn't America care about Trump's craft? Why don't they
care about anything that he seems to do? And unfortunately,

(45:25):
most of the people who do care are so talked
out about his personality that they only focus on that,
and it becomes an ad hominem attack rather than an
attack on the issues, which are the really important thing.
And so this is from Tina Brown. He says, just
when you thought the Hollywood community had proved they were
standing together to pressure Disney to restore Jimmy Kimmel to

(45:48):
his platform. American comedians Kevin Hart a disease, I'm sorry
and Pete Davidson showed up with their acts in Saudi
Arabia for the ri Odd Comedy Festival. It's easier to
talk here than in America, said Dave Chappelle, who was
also there. So this is the Left complaining about people
who went and I understand, you know who went to

(46:10):
Saudi Arabia tell jokes, but left doesn't like it. I
don't know if the if it's the fact that the
left doesn't like jokes, or if they don't like the
Saudis who chopped up koshogi. Maybe yeah, yeah, that's a
little bit of both these things. But they're really outraged
about that. So yeah, it's they're complaining about the integrity
of comedians when you have this comedian in the White

(46:35):
House who is doing all this stuff. So, uh, we'll
leave it there. When we come back, we're going to
talk about what is happening with Gold a little bit,
because it's very interesting the background that's there and it's
run up so quickly. It truly is astounding how much
it's gone up in the last year. Is it ready
to is it overbought? Is it ready to fall down?

(46:55):
We're going to take a look at that as well
as with silver.

Speaker 5 (46:59):
We have some comments here. We've got Steve Evs or Steveevs.
Hey a new ballroom coming soon? How do we get
along this long without one? Can we go?

Speaker 13 (47:08):
There?

Speaker 5 (47:08):
No Guard? Goldsmith? Constitutionally, the Insurrection Act is inappropriate for
riots only if the federal courts slash ports are threatened,
then it's under necessary and proper to protect federal courts
under Militia Act seventeen ninety two. The Militia Act was.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Well, you know, when we talked about the riots though,
that was relevant in the sense that the governors asked
for help from National Guard to control this. Because even
in La, right, what do we have in La we
had Darryl Gates the chief of police there. He was
the one who was really taking the lead in terms
of militarizing police. He's the one who came up with
the whole thing of swat teams. He was the one

(47:44):
who first started putting in militarized vehicles. And then what
happened when the riots began. He used it to circle
the city, government buildings and things like that, but not
to protect businesses and not to call the riots, used
it to protect themselves, and so you had the officials
asking for the National Guard to help them. So yes,

(48:05):
I agree. I don't think that that Trump should unilaterally
be able to do anything but his mo everything that
he does, whether it's an economic thing, where there's gun control,
whatever it is, this is an emergency. And so now
that it's an emergency, I can do whatever I want.

Speaker 5 (48:22):
Yeah, Guard Goldsmith Militia Act was the excuse Washington used
on the whiskey makers in PA KWD rebellion. Yeah, KWD
sixty eight FDR belongs with Woodrow Wilson, LBJ. Carter and
Trump and the Bushes and Nixon. O. Never mind, there
are too many for mount rushmore of pathetic citizen of Americaca. Yeah,

(48:43):
those paintballs sting I will get underneath the skin at
close range, citizen AMERICAKA. Now they want to outlaw bumper stickers, David,
because it's making the road too violent. You having that
freedom of speech to have a bumper sticker in all.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Yeah, mightam road rage on the bumper stickers.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Yeah, I put up that comment about the paintballs minutigo
to be clear, that is pepper balls. They aren't just paintballs,
they're filled with Yeah, to irritate, that's right.

Speaker 5 (49:11):
Yes, KWD sixty eight MTG sounds suicidal. Might have to
issue a statement here soon.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Actually she did.

Speaker 5 (49:22):
Yeah, Brandon, Grateful Baptist, please pray for me today I
decided to get off of opioid medication and I'm going
to go through a true hell on earth for about
ten days. I'll be as close to hell as a
human can be on earth. I have God.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
I'm so sorry to hear that.

Speaker 5 (49:37):
Yes, please pray for Brandon, Grateful Baptist.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Yes, God, pray that God will meet you in that
and try to get you off of that. What a
plague drugs have become. And again that's another point there.
That's the legal drugs, right, and most of the stuff
has come from pharmaceutical companies of CIA or whatever. But
it has to be your choice to make that. And

(50:02):
it is a spiritual thing. And so Brandon, we pray
that God will give you strength in this spiritual fight.
It is a medical issue. It is a spiritual issue
to try to get off of these drugs. It's not
a law enforcement issue. That's the thing that does not
really make any difference. It just makes things worse. So
where you had one problem before and now you've got

(50:22):
multiple problems once you do prohibition. We're going to take
a quick break, folks, and we'll be right back.

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Well Tony Rdeman of Wise Wolf is unable to join
us today. But there's been a lot of news about Gold,
of course, and now it has crossed that magic psychological
barrier of four thousand dollars an ounce a record high,
yet another record high. And it was less than a
week ago that Goldman Sachs was kind of conservatively saying that, well,

(52:45):
I think we'll get to four thousand by second quarter
of next year, and so we are less than a
week later it happened, and we are in the fourth
quarter of twenty twenty five. Goldman Sachs updated their estimate
to forty nine hundred dollars gold by second quarter next year,

(53:07):
and I said, the basis of that is the fact
that a lot of people, besides central banks, the retail
people are mostly buying it through ETFs. And I used
to do that, but I would caution you about that
because that is not the same as actually having gold.
What you're doing is you're buying shares and corporation that

(53:28):
says that they have gold, and it does not track
with gold. And that was the thing when golfers started
making moves about ten years ago, making some small moves.
At one point in time, I was in ETFs of
gold and silver and I looked at It's like, this
is not moving, like the spot price of gold is mean,
what's going on with that? And then I found out

(53:48):
what the paper gold was really about. Having physical goal
like you can get from Tony is very important because
that's what keeps it secret and keeps it safe. Has
gone Half would say, right, he should do the lands,
you should do a you should do a commercial for gold,
keep it secrets, it gets to keep it safe and

(54:09):
he's got the coin instead of the ring, right, But
Goldman has hiked that to forty nine hundred dollars, and
Ken Griffin says he is worried about substantial dollar d
dollarization because that's really what we're seeing here. Gold is
not going up in value except against the currencies, if
you have currencies that are out there. What you're really
seeing here is this is the theory of relativity of

(54:33):
money money. I guess, are we moving or is the
other thing moving? Right? You've always had that kind of sensation,
maybe if you're in a car and now the corner
of your eye another car starts moving very slowly back
and it's like, wait a minute, am I moving? Or
are they moving? Well, that's what's happening here. It's really
the dollar that is going down as opposed to gold

(54:55):
that's going up in value. Gold holds its value. That's
the whole point. A safe haven for people to their
money as the US government shut down continues. And that's
not just what is happening right now. That is the
government that is shutting down everything, including itself with excessive debt.
So Jesse Colombo of the Bubble Bubble Report asked, is

(55:18):
silver about to tumble like it did in nineteen eighty
and twenty eleven? So is silver rallying strongly? Rising more
than fifty percent since the start of the year, a
growing number of investors are trying to worry that a
crash may be coming, similar to what happened after major
spikes in eighty and twenty eleven, instead of focusing on
the incredible long term opportunity that remains in front of us.

(55:39):
So he says, I believe that silver would not repeat
the sharp collapses that followed its short lived surges in
eighty and twenty eleven. This time is different. This is
a legitimate, sustainable bull market with real staying power and
the potential for lasting gains. And I think this is different,
and I think what's different about it is the and

(56:00):
the condition of the dollar and the many things that
are involved with that. He says. You'll notice there's have
been three major price surges. The first was a Hunt
Brothers driven a spike in nineteen eighty, followed by the
quantitative easing fueled rally in twenty eleven, and now the
current precious metals bullmarket. I believe this current move is
legitimate and a sustainable bull market that is here to stay.

(56:23):
And he said the reason for that is the d dollarization.
And he's not the only one saying this. I mean
you've got, as I said before, Ken Griffin, you've got
the investment people that are saying this, but certainly the
central banks are saying it by their actions. So it's
unfortunately the debt problem is truly a worldwide phenomenon, as

(56:45):
global debt has surged more than tenfold since the mid
nineteen nineties, reaching an estimated two hundred and fifty trillion dollars.
The towering debt burden is a ticking time bomb that
will ultimately bring fiat currencies to their knees. That is
why it is of the utmost importance for everyone to
acquire at least some physical gold and silver to protect

(57:06):
against what lies ahead. This fact alone guarantees that precious
metals still have much further to rise. So you have
a ticking time bomb from the debt, you have people's
concern about the value of fiat currency. You also have
the rise of bricks, which is trying to create a

(57:27):
secondary financial system independent of the existing one, and they
have to collect gold because they need to have some
credibility for their system. The way they get credibility is
to have gold there. And then there's another aspect of
all this, and that is the manic desire of government
to track everything that we do, and that I think

(57:50):
is one of the most disturbing aspects of this. And
that's why I talk about physical gold. It's not just
says an investment that you buy an ETF or something
like that. For it's the physical gold that is something
that helps us to have a hedge against the digital
currencies and the surveillance state. So the gold rally points

(58:11):
to an eroding faith in central banks worldwide. In Japan,
as in the US, a new leader wants the central
bank there to make government debt more bearable, which could
feed inflation. Monetizing the debt in other words, so you
create inflation, you pay it back with cheaper currency that
you print. On Tuesday, when gold top four thousand for

(58:35):
the first time, it said it wasn't a coincidence, because
you see this type of thing is happening across the board.
And it's not just the central banks who are putting
out the quantitative easing and the negative interest rates and
things like that, but it is also the push that
we see in Europe for a central bank digital currency

(58:57):
or the stable coins that we have here in the USA,
which are functionally going to be the same. So this
article from zero h says that the four thousand dollars
gold is a geopolitical warning because all we're seeing here
is a repricing of trust, deepening global concerns about sovereign
balance sheets, the sustainability of fiscal policy, and a world

(59:21):
that is seeking reliability beyond these eroding FIAT currencies and
a sustainable debt. The four thousand gold is a flight
to quality as other assets are appearing vulnerable. It's also
about speed and scale. It's incredible that gold reached the
three thousand level only seven months ago. The rapid move

(59:42):
through a major psychological barrier like four thousand dollars validates
the fear of a profound loss of confidence and paper assets.
There's also a shift to the east. The most decisive
move through the four thousand dollars mark occurred during Asian
trading hours. All London and New York we're asleep. It

(01:00:04):
is highly symbolic. Gold is now signaling that the global
center of gravity is shifting east to Asia. But it's
also the geopolitical engine is the fact that you have
the bricks nations trying to build new institutions and they
need that credibilities. I said before, A lot of that

(01:00:24):
is because of the sanctions shock that began with Biden.
But now Trump is doing the same thing and a
repatriation trend. Not only is central bank gold buying opaque
and ongoing, but many nations are also seeking to repatriate
their physical reserves. There is a palpable erosion of trust

(01:00:47):
in traditional Western custodians, and so this article is so.
My conclusion then, is that substantial buying remains. There is
still substantial gold accumulation yet to be done. Because of
all these fundamentals that are out there, None of these
things are being fixed. As a matter of fact, all
of them are getting worse. The physical irresponsibility, the desire

(01:01:09):
for toutalitary and surveillance state, you name it, the weaponization
of our existing financial system and how it is quite
literally bankrupt. They understand that, and they have been moving
to make that happen, as central bankers have. So it's
time for you as an individual to understand that as well.
So Senator Loomis, who has been pushing for a bitcoin reserve,

(01:01:33):
says bitcoin reserve funding could start any time now, and
that's going to really accelerate the move I think out
of currency as well. If you own bitcoin and you
assume that it's going to go up twelve percent a year,
you'll make thirty fold in thirty years, said one individual
who's looking at this. It's actually going to be able

(01:01:54):
to cover the cost of the physical deficit hole that exists.
This is kind of fuzzy thing, I think. Again, now
they're saying that they can monetize the debt by getting
into bitcoin. Well, there's no productive money that's going out
of this, and I just think that it's going to

(01:02:14):
be a financial game if they do something like that.
Monetizing the debt in this particular case by the asset
inflation of bitcoin is what some of them are looking at.
Of course, they're talking about re calibrating their book value
of the gold that they own as well. This is

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also about bitcoin. This is on coin Telegraph goals gains
imply six hundred and forty four thousand bitcoin and equivalent value.
They said, well, again this is based on the ratio
of bitcoin to gold and looking at how bitcoin, how
gold has gone up so much. Well, their logic is

(01:02:57):
that bitcoin should go up that amount as well. Very
different thing, and when I look at it, you know,
there's you can play this like you're playing stocks or
buying commodities or whatever. I don't personally like to do that.
I'm looking at gold because it gets me away from
the electronic money and the and the government controlled money,

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and it keeps that anonymity that we have with cash.
So I'm very concerned about bitcoin. But again, if you
just want to speculate, you know, pass this along. When
they're saying roughly half of gold's value reflects its use
as a store of value rather than as an industrial
or jewelry. Demand and surveyor surveys show that younger consumers

(01:03:40):
and emerging markets increasingly prefer bitcoin for that role. But
it is not physical, and it is very easily manipulated,
and that's one of the reasons why of the governments
are making moves towards it. I think, so gold will
hit them. This is another This is TDS. Now, you
had Goldman Sachs saying that was going to hit forty

(01:04:03):
nine hundred by the second quarter twenty twenty six. TDS
is saying forty four hundred. I think they're extremely conservative. Again,
if you want to start to take measures to get
gold and silver and start to accumulate it gradually. If
you're going to save, have a savings program. Put a
savings program in something that's not going to lose value.
In other words, don't save in the bank. There's no

(01:04:25):
reason to put money in a savings program in the
bank anymore. They don't pay you any interest rate at all,
and the value of the dollar is going down. For
the longest time, the amount of interest that they would
pay you would not offset the inflation that was there.
But now they don't pay you any interest at all,
So why not put it in something that is physical
and that is going to hold its value rather than

(01:04:47):
lose its value. And so if you want to start
doing that on a regular basis, of course you have
wolf Pack that Tony Yardman has, and you can set
up a structured savings program to determine how much you
want to do each month, you know, fifty dollars on up,
and he will send you a package with that, and
he also gets a group by discount off of that,
so it's a it's a good value that you get

(01:05:09):
from that on a regular basis. I don't know anybody
else that does that. But of course you can buy
gold and silver and any quantity with Tony, and he
can also help you with an IRA. If you want
to get a metal IRA, he can help you to
set that up as well. And you can get to
Tony through David Knight dot Gold. That'll take you to
Tony and let him know that you came through us. Well,

(01:05:32):
we're going to take a quick breakway before we take
a break, we will read some of the comments.

Speaker 5 (01:05:36):
That's right, Doug ab seven. As expected, Lindsey Graham only
cares about surveillance when it affects him. Well, they're worried
about what they might have overheard or seen. Have you
seen the conversations with my page boys Niberu twenty twenty nine.
The FBI knows who issued that shoot to kill order
that ended Ashley Babbitt's life in that hallway on January sixth,

(01:05:58):
twenty twenty one. If I retirement seventeen seventy six. Trump
allowed the border to be wide open during his first term.
He was responsible for millions of illegals being here. Only
a fool would have believed he would actually try to
fix the problem in a second term. And he's not
all a show.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
That's right. That's right, And you know you talk about
that actually Babbit thing and other documents that are out
there like that it's all such a fraud. And you know,
I just cash Betel Dan Bongino. When I talked to
William Benny, who was a global technical head for the NSA.
It was back at the time when they were trying

(01:06:34):
to run all this Russia Gate stuff and everything is
they're pretending like they don't have any of these records.
He said, they got all of these records. They're just
not going to let you know about it, right, So
all this stuff is a Kabooki theater. They know that
all of this stuff and they're not going to tell you.
The only thing that in terms of the actually babbitt,

(01:06:55):
if they were to go public with it, they'd probably
give the guy I medal like the dead Lon Horyucci
who shot Randy Waver's wife basically point blank as an
FBI sniper. So yeah, they gave him a medal.

Speaker 5 (01:07:10):
New Republic rising eighty three. FBI could be downsized eighty
percent and they're mating twenty percent, split up to liaise
across state lines and assists state Bureaus of Investigation to
coordinate DeFi tyrants seventeen seventy six. The border is just
as wide open as it was when Cheeto Man got
back into the White House. Tunnel Lord won threey three seven. Well,
most people don't care because mainstream alternative magamedia runs cover

(01:07:33):
for Trump. They act exactly like North Korean media. They're
nothing but shameless shills and drifters. They have the Trump
Trump Sucker proxies Steve Evs. The FBI is, like most
everything else, unconstitutional. The vast majority of the government is unconstitutional.
At this point, KWD sixty eight silver is up over

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two dollars to fifty one dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
Plus.

Speaker 5 (01:07:57):
Silver has risen the same percentage as gold last in year,
about both in twenty fifteen, and they both basically tripled.
Big jumps and medals don't bode well for FIAT sooner
or later. And keep in mind that fifty dollars silver
nineteen eighty equates to two hundred dollars with inflation that
was huge back then.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
I think even more.

Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
You know, there was a legitimate bubble that corrected itself,
but it's very different from what we see now. I mean,
nineteen eighty, you would think the inflation will be more
than four fold, wouldn't you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
Yeah, But the thing is, what was happening in nineteen
eighty was the Hunt brothers trying to corner the silver market,
and that was that was a thing that distorted it.
But this is again fundamental changes in global structure and
that's what's really driving this. And the debt issues that
we have here are the same in other countries as well,

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and everybody is concerned about the financial institutions and the
entire system that's been set up has been shown to
be dishonest and manipulated, and they can take your money
at any time they want for whatever reason they want,
and that's one of the reasons why you've got to
get it out in some way, shape or form, and
it's something that is physical.

Speaker 5 (01:09:09):
Yeah, Christian constitutional conservative David, how do we stay anonymous
buying gold when most transactions are recorded? Secondly, are you
buying goods and services with gold coins?

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
No, I'm not buying that yet because it's you know,
the time will come if there's a massive collapse, then
people figure out how to do that with the gold coins.
It's a little bit difficult to do that, even in
the places where they have legalized it as tender the
retailers can accept it as payment. However, like Tony was saying,

(01:09:42):
it's a complicated thing to make sure that you're accepting
a real goal piece. And so that's why you want
to deal with somebody that you trust, like Tony in
terms of staying anonymous. The transactions are recorded, but I
don't think that it's recorded in the I don't know.
I don't know if they do. They know your customer

(01:10:02):
rules and report transactions over a certain amount. Probably I
guess they do. But again, because it's physical. It's like
when you buy a gun, right your gun purchases is recorded.
It's got to be approved actually.

Speaker 5 (01:10:17):
And continually put on hold anytime I buy a gun.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Every time Travis gets a gun, they put him on
a three to five day hold or something. Says, I
don't know, so yeah, but but yeah, they know that
you've got the gun. The question is, you know, when
they come forward, it's like I don't have that anymore,
fell into the lake or something, you know, So it's like,
you know, that's that's that's the situation, And I don't
know if they would do that. Perhaps that's what Trump

(01:10:44):
has in mind with his militarization federalization of police. But yeah,
it's going to be like anything else. You know, it's
if they prohibit gold, then there's still going to shut
it down. A lot of people did not turn in
their gold when FDR did it, and drug provation really

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hasn't worked all that well, has it a little bit
more anonymous, But nevertheless.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
It's also the matter of everyone immediately goes to the
worst possible scenario of societal collapse where you need gold.
But realistically it's been a great investment. If you've purchased
gold at any point in the recent past, you can
now sell that for more than you've bought it for.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
That's right, that's right. I would just if you're concerned
about staying anonymous and you're concerned about the government confiscating it,
I would just say stay away from deposit boxes and
stuff like that. Because remember there was a case I
think it's still going through the courts. It was in
Beverly Hills or something, and they went in and they
thought that this place that had private boxes was involved

(01:11:55):
in They asserted that they're involved in illegal stuff. They
went in the confiscated everything from everybody. A lot of
people are using it to store gold or other valuables,
and they just took everything from everybody, even though there
was no one of these civil asset forfeiture things. And
so I would just say, you know, keep it yourself,
don't put it in some third party place like that. Now,

(01:12:17):
to some degree, you have to do that. If you're
doing an IRA, a metal IRA, you are required to
do that. But outside of that, I would say keep
the physical possession yourself. I would not trust any of
these state depository things or any private boxes or bank
boxes or anything that you're just asking for trouble.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
And yeah, what I was saying was that it is
before you get to society collapse, you have the dollar collapsing,
and this is a way to protect yourself from an
evaluation of a dollar.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:12:51):
Also, if you're worried about the government coming in and
seizing it, the government can come in and seize anything
if they want to. They can march in with tanks
and march you out of your home frog march you
directly into a FEMA camp. So it's just you know,
confiscation is always an issue, but you can simply say, oh, yeah,
I lost it, Whereas if it's some digital asset that

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you hold. They can just turn that off. They can
seize it immediately. So you have something physical. Oh no,
my chest of gold. I buried it and I seem
to have forgotten where it is.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
Yeah, you'll just forget the password.

Speaker 5 (01:13:31):
Don't remind me. Lots of money gone. But hey, it
was funny at the time. Still a little bit funny now, Guard.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
You wanted to get into a joke coin, Well there's.

Speaker 5 (01:13:43):
The jokes on me. Easy come, not easy come, but
very easy go, Guard Goldsmith. The central banks and governments
will push stable coin assets which aren't assets, forced institutions
to invest in US debts to back up the coins,
buy a lot at low prices, plus promote the coins
to suckers. Well there's one born every minute.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
Well, I think the whole play with the stable coins
is a way for them to try to continue to
sell their treasure bills because the foreign governments and foreign
banks are not interested in buying the dollar anymore. Everybody's dedollarizing,
So this is the way they get around it. And
what they will do is they will put the stable
coin out there as a way for you to buy things,

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even internationally, and have a transaction that happens right away.
And has low or no fees initially, and so people
will get into it for that reason, and then the
stable coin companies like Lutnik will be buying the tea
bills that supposedly back that up. The only thing is
Lutnik isn't that stupid. As a point out the other day,

(01:14:50):
He's not just buying tea bells. He's also buying bitcoin
and gold and massive amounts because and land. He's buying gold, land,
and bitcoin, not just tea bills. So he's trying to
He's not going to be one hundred percent and teabells.
It wouldn't be too stable if he were.

Speaker 5 (01:15:07):
Yeah, ton of Lord one three three seven says, I
just don't see the attraction to cryptocurrency. My neighbors won't
accept bitcoin for food, but they will accept silver. It's
a good thing to have physical things like gold and silver.
It's also a good thing to have physical skills if
you really want to make sure you know, gold and
silver are nice, but there's no guarantee that you'll come

(01:15:30):
across someone that wants to trade for them right away
in an immediate sort of everything collapses scenario. You'll want
skills and the ability to feed yourself in the short term,
and once things start to rebuild, then gold and silver
will probably be established as a monetary. But that's my
opinion on things. So if you want a very very
valuable commodity, learn skills how to feed yourself, how to

(01:15:51):
find water, how to protect yourself, and you can do
that with the Civil Defense Manual and go to jacklosson
books dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
To get that in yourself and acknowledge.

Speaker 5 (01:16:02):
You can also just go on YouTube and start watching
a billion different videos on ways to take care of yourself.
The Civil Defense Manual is great because you can keep
it with you. It is a physical copy and it's
not going to evaporate if the worst ever does happen
the Internet goes down. But you can start preparing for
free in many different ways. And of course chickens are

(01:16:23):
a great thing to keep. They provide eggs, they provide meat,
and if you have to eat the chicken themselves. So
make sure that you have ways of supporting yourself with
food and water as well. Soilet goy I buy gold
at pawn shops with cash and buried in a trunk
in the woods like a pirate. That's the way. Now
we know, well, obviously he's got his IP address routed

(01:16:45):
through sixteen different VPNs. We would never be able to
find him. KWD sixty eight have about gold and silver
in person with cash at local coin shops and other
collectors with no digital record.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
Or a seat. Yeah, I agree, yeah, yeah, and there's
I mean, if you do it with a you know,
for your IRA, of course there's gonna be lots of
records and things like that that people have to know
their customers. But yeah, you might retail shop like that.
You don't necessarily have to have that.

Speaker 5 (01:17:11):
We have, Ratus Bro. I have been doing wise Wolf
since it started, and I have so much silver and
gold pieces. Now, that's awesome, Ratus Bro. Glad to hear that,
and glad you're enjoying it. Christian const social conservative. How
do we stay anonymous with a metal IRA? That's an impossibility.
I'm pretty sure it is. Yeah, if you're involved in
an IRA, the government tracks everything.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
I mean, the thing about it is you're paying for
it to be kept in a safety deposit box there essentially,
and you know you can have them then send it
to you and and then you have it physically. But yeah,
while it's there, it's still exposed, just like you had
if you had a safety deposit box at a bank
or at like that store that they rated.

Speaker 5 (01:17:52):
Yeah, KWD sixty eight, my lead purchase will help protect me. Yeah,
it's an important investment.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
Price of leads going up as well, it.

Speaker 5 (01:18:01):
Goes up forever. There's a good channel on YouTube called
Dirty Civilian, talk about preparing and how to engage in
firefights and the things you want to do, so I'd
recommend checking them out Dirty Civilian. It's sort of making
fun of the fact that military guys have this mentality
of oh, you're just a dirty civilian. You don't know
what you're talking about. It's like, you can be prepared,
you can't have skills, you can know what to do.

(01:18:23):
Dirty Civilian on YouTube. Check them out. Stelle's Patriot, even
at fifty one dollars an out silver is still a
bargain the real octose Foot governor. The government will sees
your safe deposit boxes and banks. Physical storage of the
physical metals is always a nagging worry everything the government,
as I said before, if they want to, they'll roll

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in with tanks and they will simply frog march you
out into a FEMA camp and you can then choose
if you want to go or if you want to
fight in the worst case scenario. You know, if you're
constantly worrying about the fact, like, oh, well the government
could do this, the government to do that, why even
bother planning, they might just drop a new directly on
your forehead and at that point, you know, all your
preparation will be for nothing. But it's better to prepare

(01:19:05):
in some ways than to assume that nothing can be done,
and you might as well just give up before it
even starts. Guard Goldsmith exactly, David. It's a new way
to get people to buy US debt, a parallel to
the federal reserve rip off.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
Yeah, and not only people here domestically, but people around
the world. Right, they want to make this tether coin
or whatever they want to be globally, So you got
people in other countries that would be buying individuals. You know,
it's like moving this accumulation, selling the federal debt and
small pieces to retail instead of to the big central

(01:19:41):
banks and governments.

Speaker 5 (01:19:43):
Doug seven, as one of my professors once said, there's
no such thing as zero risk. Golden Silver's excellent store
of well, so it's worth acquiring some even if you
can't be entirely anonymous.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
That's right. Well, we're going to take a quick break
and when we come back, we're going to talk about
what is happening in Europe and California, which is truly
frightening what we see happening there. We'll be right back.

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Excellencies, ladies and gentlemen, Yet Laos, your annual Global Risk
Report makes for a stunning and sobering read for the
global business community. The top concern for the next two
years is not conflict or climate. It is disinformation and misinformation,

(01:21:50):
followed closely by polarization within our societies.

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a
revolutionary act.

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You are listening to the David Knight Show.

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
Of course, that was Ursula fonderlie Leiden. I guess is
what I call her, Ursula fond of lying but in
that particular case, she was telling you the truth. She
was telling you what she was going to do. And
now they are executing on that. The European Commission has
a plan now to scan private digital messages and it
is moving towards final approval. It's kind of like yesterday
we talked to the author and David Beato about his

(01:22:41):
book about FDR and how they went there all the
telegram messages of people. Well, they want to do that
with the platform. Telegram is with everything else as well now,
so they want all your messages belong to them, and
they can do it far more efficiently electronically than the
FDR goons could do. If they go to and get
all these pieces of paper, they will all put millions

(01:23:03):
of these things anyway. The regulation is called Chat Control
two point zero, and it could kind of guess. Chat
Gov two point zero has gone through a year of
resistance and from warning from experts and objections from tech companies.
It is presented as a child safety measure designed to

(01:23:24):
inspect messages, photos and videos across the EU before they
are sent. The privacy implications are immense. Alice Weidel, co,
leader of Germany's AfD party, these are the people that
the real Nazis and Stazzi in Germany want to label
these people's Nazis, but we can see who the real

(01:23:45):
Nazis are. The AfD party leader said this proposal is
quote an absolutely totalitarian project, a comprehensive general attack on
central citizens and their freedoms. She said. The measure would
install scanning software and personal devices that would intercept content
before it reaches its recipient. The system would remove the

(01:24:06):
protection offered by end to end encryption and treat every
user as a potential suspect. Yeah, the same way that
TSA does every traveler. So this is somehow we got
to get control of government again. Things are going to
get really bad before they get better, I think. White
Ell said the use of child safety language was simply

(01:24:27):
a cheap pretext. It always is for real time surveillance.
Even the Stasi could only dream of such full force,
she said. She warned that once the system exists, the
functions can expand to include other categories, such as potentially
rather politically offensive content. Well, that's exactly what it is for,
and to go after so called hate speech, just like

(01:24:49):
Ursula fond of Lying was saying. It's information and disinformation.
We got to stop this right, disinformation being the thing
they don't like. The law allows the criter to be
adjusted to political decisions. Okay, what they prohibit will constantly
being changed. It might be climate, it might be vaccines,

(01:25:10):
it might be COVID, you name it. It might be
their war that they want to start. Technology companies have
joined in opposition. Hundreds of privacy oriented firms, including encrypted messengers,
cloud storage devices, servers, and VPN providers, signed a joint
letter urging EU ministers to reject the regulation. The message

(01:25:32):
call for the protection of encryption. I'm kind of wondering
what's going to happen to proton mail. I mean there,
you know, we use them, and they're in Switzerland and
they do encryption. Is Switzerland and the EU or they
out of it, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
So they put out a statement. I'm not sure if
they're being affected by this law in particular or one
that's specifically Swiss, but there is a law coming that
would require them to put a backdoor into their system.
But they have put out of public statements saying that
they will leave Switzerland if that happens.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
Oh good. I wonder where these companies. Other companies are
saying they'll leave Europe as well. Signal is saying that
they're going to leave the EU forced to comply. Where
are they going to go. It's like every country on
Earth wants to do this type of thing, and they're
not safe here in the US either, And we're going
to see in just a moment what's happening here. Supporters
of the proposal say that it'll catch child abusers. Critics

(01:26:27):
point out the criminal networks conduct their operations in offline
settings or hidden spaces, beyond the reach of such scanning. Well,
the reality is, we just saw this Israeli cyber security guy,
you know, he's that's that's his thing, is cybersecurity, and
he's at the black Cat conference and he goes on
the open Web to try to pick up children, and

(01:26:47):
they got him in the sting. But then, of course
the Trump administration loves pedophiles and so especially the Israeli kind,
so they sent him to Israel out of the reach
of law enforcement. But again that was not on the
Dark Web or anything like that. This can happen anywhere,
and these types of crimes have been going on before
there was the Internet, and before those social media. This

(01:27:09):
is simply a cheap pretext. As the AFT leader said,
criminals are already using offline so called darkrooms for their
illegal businesses. The measure would monitor regular users, journalists, private citizens,
opposition politicians like her.

Speaker 5 (01:27:25):
Of course, there's also the fact that if you want
to protect children, it's the job of the parents to
do that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
Yes, which Republicans don't understand either.

Speaker 5 (01:27:34):
If you want to make sure your child is not
in contact with freaks and weirdos on the internet, don't
give them access to the Internet.

Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (01:27:42):
You can't be certain they're not going to access it
on a friend's phone or at a friend's house. There's
always a chance that they'll get access to it somewhere,
but you can ensure that you do not make it
easy for them. You can ensure you're not enabling this
kind of behavior. You can wait until they're old enough
to be able to be responsible, which again, teenagers aren't responsible.

(01:28:02):
I wasn't responsible as a teenager. No one is. They
all think they know more than they do. But you
can at least instill some sense of caution into a teenager.
You can reason with them a little bit. You can't
reason with a child. Don't just give your eight or
nine year old a cell phone and trust that they're
going to not treat it as a toy, that no

(01:28:25):
thing is real.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
Well, and I is they get to become a teenager that
you need to start to engage with them on moral
and spiritual issues as well, which is really where the
fight is going to be for them as an adult.
So this is going to be a vote that's going
to happen October fourteenth. Things, what is that Monday or
something maybe I don't know, Monday, Tuesday, something like that.
Well determine whether or not private communication will continue to

(01:28:47):
exist inside of the EU. Over five hundred scientists from
more than thirty countries have issued warnings about the plan's impact.
The regulation would create an environment of constant monitoring. Technology
platforms have warned that they may withdraw services from the
region if the proposal becomes law. If Chat Control two
point zero passes, it will redefine digital communications in Europe

(01:29:11):
and in the assumption that private messages are private, so
as mass chat surveillance nears approval, President, who is fond
of lying, is accused of transparency violations herself over deleted
messages understand that those rules don't apply to them, Just
like with Lindsey Graham. How dare you look at my messages?

(01:29:34):
Everything that I, as a government official do, needs to
be hidden from you. Every bit of action that the
government does is hidden from us, and it is top secret.
But everything in our life is to be exposed to them.

Speaker 5 (01:29:48):
My messages are secret. You don't get to see those.

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
Yes, right, while you're again?

Speaker 5 (01:29:52):
Your kids aren't talking to someone like Lindsey Graham online?

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
Yeah, Well, European citizens face the prospect of mass surveillance.
Ursula fond of Lying continues to ignore the laws and
conduct her own communications away from public view. The latest
case involves a message sent by French President Emmanuel Macron
early twenty twenty four.

Speaker 5 (01:30:16):
Do you think it has helped? My wife won't stop
beating me.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
Yeah, he won't stop beating him, so I don't know.
Maybe it was something about his wife so called anyway,
Macron's message, sent via signal, reportedly voiced serious reservations about
the deal a trade negotiation, but of course there were
other issues as well. Ursula Fond of Lying was part

(01:30:42):
of a Pfeiser scandal where she was communicating, of all people,
Albert Porla, that great guy that Trump loves so much,
and they wanted to get her communications and she refused
to do it. So when a journalist requested access under
the EU transparency laws to this Macron message, they delayed,

(01:31:03):
and they waited for over a year, and then of
course it disappeared from signal. That's the way the thing operates.
So when Ursula fond of Lying was privately messaging Albert Borla,
CEO of Pfiser, it was it was a scandal. They
called it Pfisergate in the EU. And she made sure

(01:31:25):
that her texts were not preserved, that they were deleted,
and that's in violation of their transparency laws. The Commission
refused to release the messages. Later emerged that they had
been deleted. The New York Times took the matter to
court and won. The European General Court ruled that the
Commission had wrongly withheld information of public interest Ursula fond

(01:31:48):
of Lying. Little appears have changed. The Commission claims that
messages like macrons had no administrative or legal impact and
therefore did not need to be archived. Well, how could
you say when you're lacking everybody in the world down
over the supposed COVID and the supposed vaccine. That the
messages that you have with the guy over that is

(01:32:09):
not of public interest. Of course it is.

Speaker 3 (01:32:11):
Well, the Commission argues laws on the book that say
that it's the job of these people to keep their
messages so that the public can decide whether it's a
matter of public interest or not. But don't worry take
our word for it. We have these laws to say
that we need to do that, but we've decided that
in this case it was unnecessary.

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
That's right. That's a smoking gun, isn't it when she
deletes the messages. And they've got to transparency along. So
as they point out and reclaim the net. They said,
while the Commission argues that mass message scanning is essential
for public safety, its own leadership operates in secrecy because folks, look,
government is a sinister secret society, that's what it is,

(01:32:54):
and just like any of these other secret societies. So
then Christine Leguard, who is guarding the European Central Bank,
she's the president of that, I guess, so we could
call her Christine the God because she acts like it
as well. She is very upset about how slow the

(01:33:15):
legislative process is dragging the adoption of CBDC, and she said,
you know, we'd like to talk about democracy. We praise
ourselves by talking about democracy, but it's just too much
of a drag at a time when speed is really
of the essence. These people are trying to accelerate everything
because of the end of the fourth turning. They know

(01:33:35):
the time in which we live, and that's what why
they have brought in Trump in the position that he's in.
He's an accelerationist and he's pushing us in the direction
that they want to go, and he is accelerating all
of this as well. She openly admitted that the legislative
timeline for CBDC in Europe has prevented her from completing
the rollout of the Digital euro within her term. She said,

(01:33:57):
given the time that it takes, I will be gone. Yes,
one day she will be gone. She will answer for
her crimes. One day, Christine, the God is going to
find out that she's not God as grass. That's right.
You know. The thing is is that when we when

(01:34:19):
we look at what these people are doing in Europe,
they don't run from the term CBDC. But you're very
careful because here in America, what they do is they
put a guy in charge who says that he's not
going to do CBDC, so he does stable coin instead,
which has all of the functions that these people want
from CBDC to start with. And they put a guy

(01:34:40):
in who says he's anti globalist when he enacts every
aspect of the global agenda. That's why it is so
important here in America that people get their head around
who the players are and what the agenda is and
take a look at what they're actually doing. Everybody, Oh,
he's a Republican, he's anti globalist, so it can't be
coming from him. That's what they want you to believe.

(01:35:01):
In Europe, they just go straight ahead. They tell you, yeah,
we're going to do CBDC. What are you going to
do about it? Right, we have digital ID, We're going
to have a unified beast system here, So try to
stop us, they said. So. Christine the God referred to
the launch as a certainty, saying when the digital euro

(01:35:24):
is eventually launched for good, she said her language suggests
that the outcome is already decided, regardless of what the
public institutions, the lawmakers may conclude, well, of course it is.
Every payment will be tracked, recorded, analyzed, just as you have.
Ursula Fond of Wine will make sure that every word
and every message is going to be parsed, analyzed, recorded,

(01:35:46):
and perhaps punished. By describing Democrat oversight as a hindrance,
Christine the God implied that public debate and legislative scrutiny
are problems to be managed rather than essential parts of
policy making. Her comments serve as a confirmation that democratic
resistance is not just being ignored, but it is resented. Well,

(01:36:08):
of course, of course it is so. Ursula fond of
Lying has done the Hillary red herring things. She says,
the people who are opposing her and criticizing her are
serving Russia. There we go, Russia, Russia, Russia. The European
Commission president is facing two non confidence votes amid mounting

(01:36:30):
challenges to her leadership. And this is coming. I think
it is today, Yes, it is today. They're going to
be having the vote of two non confidence votes will
be coming up today. Well she's got my vote, yeah,
have no confidence yet. But she's saying that these people
criticize her are with Russia. So that's you're going to

(01:36:51):
see more and more of that, but it's it's been
the thing they've been using for a very long time yet, comrade. Yeah,
So they said there's a clear frustration in Parliament toward
this commission, saying it would be great if they raised
the threshold for future attempts to force a vote of
no confidence. Yeah, because the frustration is only going to increase.

(01:37:12):
So let's make it harder for them to do a
vote of no confidence against me. So I said, this
is all coming to the US, and of course where's
it going to come in? Through California or New York? Right, Well,
this is California's got a hate speech bill that would
crush dissent, and this is passed by the legislature already.

(01:37:32):
They sent it to Newsom. He has until October thirteenth
to sign it. But whether he signs it or whether
he vetoes it, it will basically become waw. I mean,
if he vetos it, theyn't have to override the veto.
But if he doesn't do anything at all, or if
he signs it, it'll become law. If he were to
shut it down, I don't think he will, But if

(01:37:53):
he were to shut it down, then they would have
to override his veto. But if he does, if he
signs it, or if he just leaves it there, they
don't have a pocket veto. He doesn't have to sign it.
So it would be the first online censorship law of
its kind in America. It would likely pave a path
for many other states run by people with no tolerance

(01:38:13):
for descent. This is a Thenewamerican dot com. So what
will it do? It will target social media platforms, and
they could the role they could play in supposedly aiding
and abetting supposed hate crimes, or by pushing content that
could lead to a hate crime. So think about this.

(01:38:36):
This is a pre hate crime bill. It's pre hate.
You know, what you said could cause somebody to hate,
So I'm going to come after you for that content.

Speaker 5 (01:38:44):
Actually, this might even be pre pre hate crime. You're
not even talking about committing a hate crime. You're discussing
things that might have someone else go committing a crime.

Speaker 3 (01:38:53):
I've seen this exact thing in the UK. I saw
something about this happening. Even in Japan. There was a
news story of an illegal immigrant who hit two teenagers.
I think it was a sixteen year old and a
seventeen year old or might have been seventeen eighteen killed
one the others in a coma and he didn't have

(01:39:16):
a license or insurance or anything. So the local government
wanted to get the taxpayer funding for the family as
victim relief, but the federal it was actually the Japanese
Communist Party and another one opposed that because that could
lead to pushback against immigrants and discrimination against immigrants. So

(01:39:40):
it's pre hate crime essentially. I mean, granted, it was
getting government money, which is the difference.

Speaker 2 (01:39:46):
So we helped the victims that could get people angry
at the purpose right exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:39:51):
And we've seen tons of stuff about that in the UK,
where anything that might lead to any kind of pushback
against immigrants is silent.

Speaker 5 (01:40:01):
The Japanese Communist Party, it's a solely becoming more powerful.
It seems like there was a man named Ottoya Yamaguchi.
This was many years ago, but he got up on
stage with a short sword, a wakizashi I believe, and
stabbed the leader of the Japanese Communist Party and killed him.
And he's just like, not in my country, not in

(01:40:21):
my time, and he accepted the fact that he was
going to prison, not condoning it, not saying he should
have done it, but he made sure that the Japanese
Communist Party has been a largely meaningless and effectual nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:40:34):
He didn't have the time to commit. Harry carry, I
guess right. It's interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:40:38):
It's very hated, but now it's becoming more and more mainstream,
even in Japan.

Speaker 2 (01:40:42):
Yeah, probably because of their schools. What is interesting about
this California bill, I think is that they're not trying
to sell this as protecting children. They're trying to sell
it as a way to groom and gas like children.
Because they're talking about California, they are. So its prohibits
all these people, you know, corporateations and people from engaging
in anything that they think would be hateful of trainees

(01:41:09):
or sexual orientation or immigration status or any of that
kind of stuff. The more likely primary intent here is
to course social media companies into pre censoring. Of course,
says New American, the bill is not about protecting civil rights.
It's California's brais an attempt to export it's one party censorship

(01:41:29):
regime to every corner of the Internet. This bill hands
Sacramento the power to bully platforms into preemptively scrubbing descent
on everything from border security to parental rights. We've seen
big tech abuse vague hate speech rules to throttle conservatives
for years, including showing down our platform in twenty twenty one.
Now the lawmakers want to make it mandatory with teeth

(01:41:52):
shattering fines, and they have to be stopped before it
buries the first amendment. That was from the senior vice
president of Parlor. I didn't know they were even still
around Parlor.

Speaker 5 (01:42:04):
Yeah, that's not what you hear about anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
Yeah, platforms will overmoderate and they will remove posts in
order to stay out of court. But the New American
understands what this is really about. When they talk about
certain protected groups. Guess what. That's a group in a
club that you ain't in most likely. George Soros's Center
for Centering Digital Hate Countering Digital Hate says that hate

(01:42:27):
crimes involving anti immigrant slurs increased by thirty one percent.
There's been a four hundred percent rise and anti LGBTQ
disinformation and harmful rhetoric on major social media platforms. And
then the bill would also silence any anti Israel and
anti Islamic rhetoric. There you go. There's your Abraham Accords.
I guess it called the Abraham Discords or something. Right,

(01:42:50):
They said there's been a fifty three percent rise, an
anti Jewish bias, a sixty two percent rise, and anti
Islamic bias. The bill doesn't define what bias is. The
context says that bias is whatever they think it is.
It's just really a code for criticism. And they point

(01:43:10):
out in The New American that Sesar Chavetts waged a
campaign against illegals in the nineteen seventies using language that
was much harsher than what most opponents of illegal immigration
used today. Some illegals did incur violence, and they said
there was no social media back then. Jewish people have
also suffered violence for millennia. Homosexuals as well, long before

(01:43:31):
social media ever existed. But notice that there's one class
of people the bill does not protect Christians. Well, I
would say Christians and white males three classes of people. Right.
Christianity is the most common religion in the state of California,
And unlike most critics of LGBTQ lifestyle or illegal immigration,

(01:43:53):
many opponents of Christianity aren't just spouting off. They've become
increasingly hostile. According to the Family Research councilviolence against Christians
more than doubled in twenty twenty three when compared to
the previous year. Moreover, anti Christian violence increased eightfold from
twenty eighteen to twenty twenty three. So they say there's
been a fifty three percent anti Jewish bias increase, sixty

(01:44:17):
two percent anti Muslim increase. Guess what, There's been eight
hundred percent anti christ violence increase, actual violence, not just
a bias. But they're not going to do anything about that.
If the legislation's drafters generally wanted to stop social media
from amplifying violence, why not carve out a clause to
protect the class that is under significant attack? The answer

(01:44:40):
is obvious. This is a trojan horse for outright censorship
of sensible criticism, but also seeks to quash Christian ideas
and to silence online speech that points out the absurdity
of our leader's policies and ideas. As always, the Christians
who are targeted by the totalitarians first, Why do you

(01:45:01):
think that is so? The representatives of X have spoken
out to Newsom asked him to veto the bill again.
It has passed both houses of the California legislature. The
company's Global Government Affairs department published a statement saying it
is alarming the California lawmakers, who were sworn to uphold

(01:45:23):
the Constitution have so brazenly ignored their oath and voted
to pass this bill, knowingly undermining First Amendment protections. This
is the latest reminder that America is not immune from
what is happening in the rest of the world. Many
parts of Europe have already fallen. In the UK, police
have arrested thousands of people for offensive social media posts.
The EU's Landmark Digital Services Act, passed in twenty three three,

(01:45:47):
allows legal cover for the globalists to come after the
platforms that provide a space for conversations that they don't
want people to have. And so it is, and it's
going to even escalate with it bill that they're about
to pass there as well. Finally, Blue Sky a Civil
War shows that free speech is harder than it looks.

(01:46:09):
Maybe you guys have seen this meme that's a guy,
a Blue Sky user, burst into waffle house and says, oh,
so you hate pancakes. That kind of sums up the left,
doesn't it. So this is passed all over the Blue Sky.
It set them off because they don't like memes and

(01:46:30):
because it was so spot on, So you had this
is put out as a joke. In one context here
Jesse Single, there were calls to ban him from the
platform and for being criticizing the gender stuff, and the
CEO of Blue Sky responded saying waffles, and so that

(01:46:52):
immediately became a meme and it started a little bit
of a civil war there on Blue Sky.

Speaker 5 (01:46:58):
That's interesting because Blue Sky has been almost nothing but
a hug box for leftists since its inception.

Speaker 2 (01:47:05):
Well, as they point out what these people are saying, well,
the CEO of Blue Sky has said, harassing the mods
and demanding someone has never worked.

Speaker 5 (01:47:15):
It definitely has though, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:47:16):
Well harassing people in general has not changed their mind,
is what they're saying. Right, And so they said that
you can either the point of this article, they correctly
point this out and unheard, they said you can either.
What these people on Blue Sky want is contradictory. You know,
they don't want certain types of speech tolerated, and they

(01:47:39):
want to have a decentralized protocol to promise freedom, and
yet they expect the company to enforce what they think
is virtuous. Right, So they want control over their feeds,
to have protection from offensive ideas, but the demands are contradictory.
The social system can get garantee both maximal economy and

(01:48:02):
perfect safety. There isn't one that does that. An expression
always comes with requires tolerance, patients, and willingness to live
with discomfort.

Speaker 5 (01:48:11):
Yeah, there's also the fact that every single social media
app has a block button. You don't want to see something,
just block the person.

Speaker 2 (01:48:20):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (01:48:21):
You are not required to sit there and interact with somebody.
They don't have the right to get free access to you.
If you want to ignore them, that is well within
your power. You do not have the right to sit there, though,
and start lobbying Twitter ban this person's account, get rid
of them. I don't ever want to see them, that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:48:38):
I mean, when you think about it, loose Sky was
founded by a bunch of people that feel like you
have a right to not be offended. Yeah, and they have.
You know, a group of people that love to get
offended by everything, So eventually they're going to get offended
by each other. It's just a matter of time.

Speaker 2 (01:48:56):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (01:48:57):
It doesn't even take long.

Speaker 2 (01:48:58):
It pointed out this thing. I think this is important
to remember. You've got to choose whether or not you
want to be a public square or private club. You
can't have it both ways. And that's what these people
are thinking that they want. They want to have their
their safety first and freedom as well. Freedom. You can't
have freedom in safety, right. You can't have your cake

(01:49:19):
and eat it too. You can't have your freedom and
safety at the same time. When you look at places
like GAB that really do support free speech, you're going
to find a lot of really offensive stuff that's there.
You just have to tolerate it if you want freedom.
That's the way it goes.

Speaker 5 (01:49:32):
Yeah, there's some of the dumbest people you will ever
encounter are on GAB, but it's their right to be there.
I would never want them to be banned off of it. Yes,
we've got a lot of comments here, mister Palm ten
to eleven diamonds are not a good investment at this point. Darn,
what am I going to do with all my diamonds now?
The real Octo Spook synthetic diamonds are better than real

(01:49:53):
diamonds in every way other than the romantic thing. And
that's right. It's more romantic if a child had to
crush themselves to death in Africa to mine.

Speaker 3 (01:50:02):
It about the sympathetic diamonds and how they're getting cheaper
and cheaper to make perfectly good diamonds.

Speaker 5 (01:50:12):
Yeah, they actually look nicer too, they have less flaws
and bedder colors. It is simply about the mystique of
the fact that it's a real diamond. And the de
Beers families marketing campaigns.

Speaker 3 (01:50:24):
Well, they had been making diamonds into a scarce resource
where it really wasn't for a long time, even before
synthetic diamonds were a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:50:32):
Yeah, did they fund the Pink Panther movies?

Speaker 5 (01:50:36):
Do you have eb boom KWD sixty eight? Keep the
children safe? Children are always a prop for totalitarianism.

Speaker 2 (01:50:45):
It's for the kids.

Speaker 5 (01:50:46):
Everyone has, well, almost everyone has an instinctive, natural desire
to protect children. They see a child and they realize
this is the future and they need to be guarded
and shepherded. And it's a very easy way to sneak
terrible agendas in under the tent flaps like oh, look,
it's for the kids. You want to protect children, We
know you do. Makes it very easy. You have to

(01:51:11):
actually engage your brain and think about what's going on
and suppose to the knee jer Well, if it's for kids,
if it's for kids, we got to do it. Shelley A.
Russia just made biometric ID requirement for all children in
their Soviet public school system. As you said before, Russia
is not a savior. It's not going to save you.
Just because we may agree with their assessment on the

(01:51:32):
Ukraine War and what they're doing, or if they're legitimate
and they have a claim on the land, doesn't mean
that we think Russia is a good country and that
everything they do is good. Shelley A says, China is
the model. Yeah, hero May. UK is next in line
for the bio garbage. The UK is sadly already mostly

(01:51:56):
a fallen country when it comes to their politicians, just
like our country, Just like many others. They've got a
lot of really good people in the UK. I'll say
things like that, and I want to make sure that
people understand that I think there are a lot of
true patriots in the UK that are still fighting and
we'll do everything they can.

Speaker 2 (01:52:12):
They they're just not in government.

Speaker 5 (01:52:14):
Yeah, they've just been completely sold out by the power structure.
But that's basically across the board in every country. Doug
seven Sadly, many parents don't seem to pay attention to
what their children are being exposed to.

Speaker 2 (01:52:25):
Yeah, you'll just see, by the way, let mean, let
me say, I just saw, you know, this program called
Covenant Eyes, and I think it was the one that
was there, but it was parental controlled. I think Covenant
Eyes is like for two adults, you know, get you
get a copy of what you look at, you know,
But there was one that was for prontal controls and
might not have been Covenant Eyes anyway. The guy who

(01:52:46):
was a co founder of that, his young adult son
has just been arrested for a kittie porn So there's
never any guarantee of any of this stuff. You know,
as a parent, you do the best that you can,
but there is no guarantee for anything. Yeah, and you know,
and I'm sure that he was trying to do the
best that he could, but you just never know what's
going to happen.

Speaker 5 (01:53:06):
Yeah, Yeah, the real Octo spook Outlawing hate is insanity
and a fool's pursuit. You can't do it, even if
you tell people they can't say it, they can still
think it and feel it. You cannot outlaw it. And
in fact, giving people a way to express themselves and
get it out of their system is kind of like

(01:53:27):
a pressure release valve. If you can yell at people
online in a low stake scenario, it kind of makes
it easier to deal with, Oh I got it out
of my system. But if you're forced to sit there
and you can't say anything because you know you're going
to get hammered if you do, it builds even greater resentment.
It's just let people call each other names on the

(01:53:47):
internet for fun stupid stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:53:50):
And also to them it validates their hate because it's like, see,
I'm proven right.

Speaker 5 (01:53:54):
You know, Oh you need a protector, don't you. Yeah? Yeah,
I missed when the internet who was allowed to be
a bit more rude. I liked when people would insult
me if I tire at seventeen seventy six. Want to
know who controls? You find out who you aren't allowed
to criticize. Well, that's almost everybody at this point, aside
from white males. That's not narrowing it down as much

(01:54:15):
as it used to. Yeah, Christian constitutional conservative, the heterosexual
Christian white male is the number one enemy of the
One World order.

Speaker 2 (01:54:24):
That's right, Yeah, at the bottom of the DEI total.

Speaker 5 (01:54:26):
It's the number one op. Adrian was right. It's not
about individuals. It's about Israel's catastrophic pr They're not so
popular right now. There's a lot of people looking over
you like huh.

Speaker 2 (01:54:38):
They have a massive program called show Me Your Works
or something like that, the target Christian churches, and it's
a massive we're not gonna have time to get into it,
but a multimillion dollar operation. Brian shaw Hobby has a
good article on it at Health Impact.

Speaker 5 (01:54:57):
He also briefly touched on him. But those articles where
Benjamin and ya who was speaking to influencers saying, you know, oh,
you have to talk about how wonderful Israel is and
promote Israel and say we're good and nice and kind
and so this is.

Speaker 2 (01:55:10):
A whole other thing. This is Jeo Finn's tracking of
Christians in your movement. It's just spatial intelligence and then
also money to churches to push Zionist propaganda.

Speaker 5 (01:55:21):
So they're very very big on creating their own curating
their public image, and they realize they've lost control of
the narrative a little bit, so they're doing everything they
can to get it back.

Speaker 2 (01:55:34):
Yeah, and it's the really dangerous thing is that it's
going to make the churches more focused on Israel than
political Israel, than they are in christ and there's already
way too much of that in the churches. I get
hate mail from people because I oppose political Israel. It's like,
you know, if you're Christian, you need to be pushing Christ,
not some atheist, genocidal abomination, a political entity that is

(01:55:57):
just a pariah.

Speaker 5 (01:56:00):
Jews need Christ, That's what they need. They don't need
they don't need land, they need a savior, which has
already come. GDP three thirty. Hate speech should be every
bit has protected as all speech. They've ended that term
in laws like in Canada UK to create division and
un guess that's right. Hate speech is important again, I

(01:56:23):
because of the time when you know, I was youngish
and on the internet, on Twitter, it was more uncensored.
People could actively be mean to you and it was fun.
I liked it. I liked the fact that people were
mean and kind of rude and we could fight it out.
And I miss that. I miss when you could have
an argument with someone and not get banned for it.

Speaker 2 (01:56:44):
Well, we can go look up Don Rickles on the
internet and watch some of his old videos. I was
never a fan of Don Rickles. I thought he was
a little bit too harsh, but it was it was funny,
and it was this roasting thing that he had going
on where he would you would criticize everybody and everyone,
I mean it would come in and just rip them
apart and mock them in so but yeah, he would.
He would definitely be personal, and I brought it today.

Speaker 5 (01:57:07):
Yeah, it's just I don't know. I've always you know,
if we're arguing, even if you're friendly arguing, I like
being a little bit mean and rude about it. I
try to mitigate that and not do it as much
as possible, but I find it fun. I like it
when the other people a little bit mean and rude.
You know, you take your ideas seriously, you're passionate about
it and you're willing to go to the mat for it.

(01:57:29):
But not anymore. User name zero one, two, three, four, five, six,
seven eight nine hate speech DEI woke Progressivism equals communism hate?

Speaker 2 (01:57:39):
Yeah, real quickly before we take a break, because we
got our guests, that's coming up, and we've got a
very interesting book we're going to talk about. But Biden
told the CIA that he wanted the INTEL report on
his family's Ukraine ties suppressed, and it was this is
being published by Fox News. When he is Vice president
of course in charge of Ukraine poll for Obama. He

(01:58:01):
told the CIA that he would strongly prefer quote unquote
that an Intel report confirming Ukrainian concerns about his family
being tied to corrupt business operations would not be disseminated. Now,
this is at the time when he was also intimidating
the prosecutor there to investigations into corruption that his family

(01:58:23):
was involved in, and that was when Hunter was being
paid a lot of money to be on the board
of directors of Barrisma, about a million dollars a year.
Biden used the threat of withholding American financial help in
order to force Ukraine to stop these investigations. And so
it is interesting and I wonder what, if anything, Trump

(01:58:47):
would do about that, If anything, will they do about
the CIA. I mean, Joe Biden is gone now, but
I wish they would do something about the CIA, the
Criminal Intelligence Agency. Something to be done about them.

Speaker 5 (01:59:01):
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Speaker 2 (01:59:47):
I guess those things are a real fire hazard when
they start blowing through a town like that. You know,
easy to catch on fire.

Speaker 5 (01:59:53):
Now, I'm actually curious about how flammable actual tumbleweed is.
You gotta imagine they get real dry.

Speaker 2 (01:59:58):
Yeah, I think it helps to compress it as it is,
and the fire starters that are there well We're going
to take a quick break, and when we come back,
we're going to be talking to author James Bradley about
his new book, Precious Freedom. He is the author who
wrote the great book Flags of Our Fathers, about the
Marines at Iwashima, and that was turned into a movie

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by Clint Eastwood. So we're going to talk to him
about this book that he did about the Vietnam War.
He spent ten years researching this, a lot of it
in Vietnam. So we're going to take a quick break, folks,
and we will be right back.

Speaker 4 (02:01:10):
In defending the American Dream. You're listening to the David

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Knight Show.

Speaker 2 (02:03:22):
Welcome back, and joining us now is James Bradley, who
is the author of Flags of Our Fathers, a great
book and a great film that was done by Clint Eastwood.
And he's now got another book, not about that was
about Ewagimo course and World War Two. This one is
a nonfiction book and it is about Vietnam. It's called

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Precious Freedom. And some of the views that are here,
one person, Norman Solomon, said, for more than sixty years,
Americans have looked at Vietnam through the wrong end of
a telescope. I think that's a great way of putting it.
He said, Precious Freedom, turns it around and brings people
into sharp focus, from Vietnamese people who lived there and

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died to the Pentagon's gun gun sites. And so I
think it's a very important story. And he spent a
lot of time working on this story. And this is
a story that for most of us, Vietnam is a
very very important milestone in our life. I think it
shaped as me, shaped my view of government and war

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in many different ways. And I didn't even go, I mean,
I can only imagine the people that were thereby did
know people that went that were slightly older than I was.
I had two older sisters and they knew a lot
of people who had been involved in going to Vietnam
and that experience that happened. And so this is a
story that is told with characters from both sides, Americans

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as well as Vietnamese. Thank you for joining us, James,
good to be here. Thank you. Now you spent a
decade in Vietnam researching this tell us a little bit
about that and what Vietnam is like and what what
that experience was like.

Speaker 13 (02:05:02):
Well I went, you know, I had written four books
up to that point, so I thought, you know, I
wrote all about the Pacific War. So I think my
brother enlisted in the Marines in nineteen sixty seven. So
I was watching Walter Cronkite every night studying the Vietnam War,
and I thought, you know, i'll write a book about Vietnam.

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I'll just spend three years here. But it took me
over ten years because I had to unravel all the
propaganda Bologney told to us by Walter Cronkite into ken Burns.
Right now, it's just you know, last night you talked
about a little thing that a few folks at fooled

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America about COVID, about the vaccine. You know, I mean
Trump was a Russian spy and America, the American government
did it. The same with us with Lee Harvey Oswald
and the Vietnam War.

Speaker 2 (02:06:03):
Yes, absolutely right, you know it is. And when we
look at Vietnam, I keep going back to one of
the I haven't read your book yet, but you know,
when you go back and you look at the fog
of war that was done by Earl Morris, I don't
know if you ever saw that or not. As documentarians
five times. Yeah, yeah, that's a good documentary. And he

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just has this knack of getting people to confess things
that you normally you would not expect. They confessed to
So he spent a lot of time talking to Robert McNamara,
who was running this whole mess. And macnamara said, he
went back to Vietnam and they banged the guy who
was his counterpart at the time set up and said,
what is the matter with you? Don't you know anything

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about history? For a thousand years, we oppose the Chinese,
and you're trying to tell everybody that we're Chinese puppets
and it's a Domino theory and all the rest of
this stuff. And McNamara said, yeah, you know, he was right.
What is Vietnam like today? I mean I've seen still
some border conflicts between them and China, and there's a

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lot of competition there, but they've become highly industrialized, is
that right?

Speaker 13 (02:07:10):
Yeah? China is the forever enemy of Vietnam, you know,
after more than a thousand years of fighting each other,
and that's how the Vietnamese learned these techniques to repel
the invader. You know, Vietnam right now, if you include reserves,
has the largest army in the world. This shocks people.

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It's bigger than India, China, America, Russia. Wow, they are
watching their borders. They're not invading anybody. Yeah, and you
know they're protecting their borders. Vietnam's for the Vietnamese and
they are growing by eight percent a year. Vietnam is
so successful right now, and it would have been successful

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a long time ago if the French and the Americans
hadn't decided to vombit for eighty years.

Speaker 2 (02:08:00):
Yeah. Yeah, it's amazing to think that they could get
it that wrong. You know that they think they portray
Vietnam as a China puppet when actually you know they were.
They were always you know, opposed to them and opposition there.
Now you did this as a as a fiction book.
You have done nonfiction before. We talked about Ewajima and

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the Marines that were there in Flags of Our Father.
Why did you go to a nonfiction approach?

Speaker 13 (02:08:29):
You know, fiction is sorry, the book is really history
as fiction. Everything in the book is true. But whereas
Iwo Jima, you know, all the characters were concentrated on
a little tiny spit of land. I had stories from
all over Vietnam, that I couldn't connect in a storyline,

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so I just did it. I fictionalized it. But you know,
so maybe I took a character that I have fighting somewhere.
They didn't. But everything is from interviews I did over
ten years of living in Vietnam, interviewing the people, and David,
You'll be shocked. I'm the first American author to go

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to Vietnam and say how did you win? I caddied
for Vince Lombardi when I was a kid. I'm a
little older than you. Bart Starr lived for doors down
up at bass Lake from the Bradleys. And for anybody
who doesn't know who Vince Lombardi is, when you win
the NFL Trophy, I mean the Super Bowl Trophy. This

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year you will win the Vince Lombardi Trophy. So Vince
studied when he lost a game, if they won or lost,
we admitted it, and we studied how we lost, and
we figured out how the winners won. And I'm the
first author to go to Vietnam and say, you guys

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obviously won, how did you do it? And the answers?
Are this book precious freedom?

Speaker 2 (02:10:03):
Yes? Yes, there's actually a comment that you have from
Oliver Stone, who's had James Bradley journeyed to Iwajima and
returned the flags of our fathers now of interest to
Vietnam and brings the precious freedom, brings us precious freedom.
Where he reveals that if we had known what happened
in the nineteen sixties in Vietnam, American mothers would have

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never sent their children to I Rock and Afghanistan. The
truth is the best vaccination against great lies. I think
that's very important. And so by going with the fictional thing,
you can cover a lot of different facets that are
still very realistic at the same time. And so tell
us a little bit about some of the characters out
of there. You got both American and Vietnamese characters in

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your book, right.

Speaker 13 (02:10:47):
Yes, it's basically Chip in May. Chip is a US
Marine and you know, Pete Hegseth got it wrong. They
were in pretty good shape in the Vietnam era, you
know our marines. It wasn't the fatness, it was the
fat heads in the Pentagon.

Speaker 5 (02:11:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (02:11:10):
Chip goes into May's front yard. May is fifteen years old.
Look at this little chick, she's fifteen years old, never
thought about war. Chip shoots her father in the head.
May sees this and at fifteen she says, I'm going
to kill every American I ever see. And conveniently, the

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Americans came in in helmets and uniforms, and you know,
you could tell what an American was. So this May
went out and snipered to death five Marines. Those are
the kills she got medals for. And what is untold
about the Vietnam War is the role of women. Here's

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a photo this girl with the machine gun. Can you
see it?

Speaker 2 (02:11:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (02:11:58):
Yeah, she killed the huntred and seventy four Americans. Wow,
look at she's twenty two years old. Wow, the number
one marine sniper killed ninety four. We write books about them,
you know, we haral them. But this is unknown that
girls were out there killing Americans. And it was because

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of that thousand years of fighting the Chinese, and they
went out and they had a plan. We we you know,
in America. The story is how did this happen? You
can watch eighteen hours of Ken Burns and it's like, wow,
this is still confusing. But if you go to Vietnam, well,

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actually you can't get them to talk to you. But
I did. It took me six months of drinking tea.
And if they if they part the veil and tell
you they had a plan. They were teenagers, but they
knew how to seize the initiative. This was not happens
to this are accidental that Vietnam beat America. They had

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a plan, they knew they were going to do it,
and they executed the plan.

Speaker 2 (02:13:08):
Well, it's also the fact that they're actually defending their home.
You know, that's a that's an important thing. You know,
that's a big advantage for defenders when they're actually fighting
for their lives and fighting for their home, as opposed
to people who are going because they've been told that
there's some kind of geopolitical thing maybe that maybe exist

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or maybe doesn't exist. I think that is a key thing.
I think that's a real big part of why we
do so poorly in all these asymmetric wars everywhere.

Speaker 13 (02:13:37):
Yes, no, that's if Ho Chi Minh I'm from Wisconsin,
if Ho Chi Minh an debated Wisconsin, that war would
still be going on.

Speaker 2 (02:13:46):
Yeah, we would never give up, that's right.

Speaker 13 (02:13:49):
I mean, you know, me, at fifteen years old, I
knew every alley way I could run at night for
five blocks, jump over fences. I knew what doors were open,
you know, so they were defending their homeland. That's the key.
And I've been to Afghanistan, you know, I lived in Iran.
This bombing of Iran that we recently did in June

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that united the Iranian people like never before.

Speaker 2 (02:14:14):
Oh yeah, and we already.

Speaker 13 (02:14:15):
Support your leader if you. A Vietnamese guy told me,
he said, you know, we were trying to recruit people
in this valley, this isolated valley, and they said, what's
an American? What's the war? What are you talking about?
And then an American jet came and dropped bombs, and
he said, we didn't have to we didn't have to
recruit anymore. You Americans got everybody in line with just

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a few bombs.

Speaker 2 (02:14:41):
You know, we've seen that in movie after movie as well,
haven't we. You know, movies about you know, the American
Revolution or whatever, where somebody's I don't want to get
involved in the civil war, whatever, I don't want to
get involved until the war comes to them and they
get attacked by one side, and necessarily now they get
galvanized and they're in it. I think that's the key.
You know, we lose our wars before they even begin,

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because we don't talk about why we should be there.
And if we go to war for an unjust cause,
we are going to lose that war eventually, because the
people who have a just cause in terms of defending
themselves are going to have the determination to finish it
and whatever it takes. That is the most important thing,
I think is that determination. We talk about the morality

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of whether we have a just war or not. You know,
have we been attacked and how are we going to
fight this? But when we ignore that and we start
acting as the world's policeman, then what we've done is
we've sown the seeds of a shaky foundation that isn't
going to be able to sustain us. And on the
other side, they have a strong foundation to fight back.

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As you point out, if they had invaded us, we
would still be fighting them. I think that's a key thing.
I think we.

Speaker 13 (02:15:52):
David interrupt here. Sure, I'd like to say to your
viewers and listeners if you could just back up and
listen and again to what David just said. That is
the key to this book, Precious Freedom. They were defending
mom and dad. Yeah, and they had a plan and
the Americans went and they were fighting communists. You know,

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how do you find a communist? And what is a communist?
The Vietnamese I interviewed who were fifteen, sixteen, seventeen years
old back in the nineteen sixties. The one guy told me,
he said, I didn't know democracy or communism. He said,
they shot my mother and killed her. He said, that's
all I had to know.

Speaker 2 (02:16:35):
Yeah, that's right, and that's how we lose these wars.
We don't understand what we're really fighting for. So you
talk about distorted revisionism that we've seen here in the US.
Defined that a little bit. When we talk about the
Walter Cronkite version of the war, and we talk about
the ken Burns version of the war, how has your

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vision of the war changed? You said, took it while
to come terms with that.

Speaker 13 (02:17:03):
Well, here is a real mind teaser, and I hope
you don't mind if I use visuals. It'll saves find
me blabbering on. But the American view of the war,
if you turn on ken Burns, Walter Cronkite, look at
any documentary starts with this. There was a North Vietnam

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and a South Vietnam. Can you see it? Yeah, yeah,
and there was a border between two countries, and we
came to rescue South Vietnam against North Vietnam. So I
go into this eighty five year old guy's house and
he said, mister Bradley, he said, this was all imaginary.

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The New York Times drew a line across my country.
He said, I never thought I needed a visa to
visit my uncle. There was one Vietnam. This is how
they viewed it. There was one Vietnam, and we invaded
the whole thing. So my brother was told, you know,
you go train in the Marines, you go to the

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South Vietnam, and you fight for freedom against these terrible Kamis.
But the Vietnamese never saw it that way. They saw
one country. And if you read the speeches, everybody's giving,
I mean, all the Vietnamese. They start with, there's only
one Vietnam. There will only be one Vietnam. And they

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were right. If I drew a line across Texas, David,
you know, I'm Canadian and I come down there with
the Canadian Army, and I say, there's a West Texas,
East Texas. There's a border. You're bad on the west side,
the good is on the like, what are you talking about.
We're Texan, there's one Texas and you would, you know,

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down to your grandkids, you would fight to have that
reality come back. What you said earlier about seven minutes ago.
The key was not our veterans. They did a good job.
The key was our leaders set up a false a
false situation right from the start. We lost that war

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before we started.

Speaker 2 (02:19:16):
What is now the politicians that were there. Okay, so
you got Ho Chi Minh in the north and you
got the South Vietnamese government. Was that something that Americans created?
Was that a CIA creation or was that something that
yes said? So it didn't start with the French? Yeah, Cia,
what happened?

Speaker 13 (02:19:38):
If I could? You know, the French were there for
eighty years Roman Catholic Church, by the way, and you
know for the church, the French went in eighteen eighties.
They couldn't control, just like us in Afghanistan. They had
the cities, they couldn't control the country. Ho Chi Minh
goes overseas to study the Western media for years and

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then figures out how to beat the Americans. He comes
back first. They pushed the French out well in nineteen
fifty four when they pushed the French out. They agreed,
we'll have a temporary line at the seventeenth parallel temporary
and they wrote in the Geneva language, this is not

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two countries, this is not a border. The French have
been here for eighty years and we're just gonna let
him withdraw to the south and then, you know, to
get the French on ships to let them go. But
the Allen Dulles, the CIA, Dwight Eisenhower, Cardinals Spelman, Pope
Pius came in and said, hocus pocus, CBS, New York Times,

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make that a border. And look at there's this country
South Vietnam, North Vietnam. Well, we weren't paying attention. What
was an Indo China? So I grew up thinking there's
a North Vietnam, South Vietnam. I saw it every day.

Speaker 2 (02:21:00):
I mean, oh me too.

Speaker 13 (02:21:02):
Yeah, you know, but we know people that think that
there was a COVID thing that hit the United States
right right, and that there's a vaccine that makes you
if you take poison, you get healthy. So what they
did with us Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK. And there's
these two countries. But the Vietnamese, the people there tens

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of millions, didn't you know, what are you talking about
two countries? The South Vietnamese leaders had been in the
French Air Force. They were traders to the country. When
McNamara stood with the South Vietnamese leaders, the Vietnamese looked
and like, wow, we beat the French, and now here's

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the American enemy also. So this is why it took
me ten years. I had to unravel everything I knew
about the Vietnam War.

Speaker 2 (02:21:57):
Yeah, and of course that happened that that long. I yes,
after really maybe a decade or so after what we
had done in Iran.

Speaker 13 (02:22:04):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:22:04):
That's the other thing. Americans look at Iran and they
remember the hostage situation and the Ayahtola, Well they don't
remember what's what happened with the shaw that we put
in power and the Savak that the CIA train. And
I've talked about that many times. I was exposed to
that because I had in the engineering school. There was

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a lot of Iranian students who came there and they
were protesting, and I was asking them why they were
wearing masks, and they started telling me about the Savak
and it's like, what you know, so our history and
our perception is so distorted by media and so distorted
by a selective starting point in the narrative that it

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is really hard to get to the truth. That's why,
you know, books like this are very important to open
up people's minds to understand how they've been controlled. I
think so you really kind of see this as a
David and Goliath story, right.

Speaker 13 (02:22:59):
Well, I don't know David and Cliath, but it's a
story of the Vietnamese. They're like if you poke of Japanese,
they have a certain history, they have no ability, they've
never been invaded. You know, they don't know, they don't

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haven't practiced those arts. If you talk to an American,
our history is not how we were invaded by Mexico
and then the Germans invaded us and then we don't
have those skills. But the Vietnamese, that's their only history.
If you're Vietnamese, you grow up with that history of
you know, great grandfather fought the Chinese here, and then

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your great great grandfather fought the Mongols in that river.
I mean, I have a picture of a guy who
was sixteen years old, about this tall, and he sunk
five navy ships on a river using techniques that were
one thousand years old, the Battle of the Bakhdong River

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from nine hundred and thirty two. And I said, you
were sixteen and you recreated a battle that was a
thousand years old, and he said, yes, Vietnam has a
proud military history.

Speaker 2 (02:24:17):
Wow.

Speaker 13 (02:24:18):
So that's what they know. So if you want to
lose a war, invade Vietnam, tomaw, use nuclear arms, use
whatever you want. You're going to lose.

Speaker 2 (02:24:28):
Yeah, that's amazing. And I guess we probably could say
the same thing about Afghanistan as well. They have taken
down one empire after the other, taking them on and
taking them down in their country. So I guess they've
got a long history of girl of warfare as well.

Speaker 13 (02:24:42):
They but David, why do we choose Yeah, because they
wear sandals, I mean meat egg set ONTs, you know,
short hair and no beards. Well, jeez, you know they
call these girls. I mean, look at this. This is
Ho Chi Minh. Okay, that's Ho Chi Minh with General Ziap.

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Ho Chi Minh is the military genius of the Vietnam War.
Beat the French and the Americans. Look at this tiny
guys with General Ziap. General Ziap is the winningness general
of the twentieth century, David, we talk about Eisenhower, MacArthur,
Ziap beat the French, he beat the Japanese, he beat

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the Americans, he beat the Chinese. Vietnam is the only
country in the world to have defeated three members of
the United Nations Security Council. That's their history is how
to get rid of the invader. And we wouldn't listen
to that. But can I just say something that there

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was a United States Marine Commandant, General Shoe, General David
Shup Medal of honor, taroa medal of honor one of
the worst marine battles. This guy knew battles and he
resigned when Johnson wanted to go in Vietnam, and General
Schue put on a suit and tie and criss crossed

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the countries in the sixties saying there's no way we
can win. Ho Chi Min's the George Washington. So there
was a David Knight understanding that the media was, you know,
fooling the American public back in the nineteen sixties, and
it was being broadcast by a United States Marine commandant,

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not some you know, crazy pinko, you know, demonstrating, but
a commandant was saying, the Vietnamese are never going to
give up. We're going to lose. He said, the Vietnam
War is not worth one of our deaths. Yes, this
was coming from a military man, and he was right.
But Washington wouldn't listen because Brown and Root, which became

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Haliburton Lockey. You know, they they made out Vietnam was
a tragedy for them. It was a profit center.

Speaker 2 (02:27:07):
When I was looking at it as a as a
young teen and then on into high school, it looked
to me like, you know, the military industrial complex was
using it to practice and develop weapons. I mean, I
could see that even when I was in high school.
These guys are making a killing from this stuff, and
they're using it to as a testing ground for their

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military hardware that they want to sell. Yes, and that
seemed like all it was to me. You know when
I looked at that. It's absolutely insane how we have
been manipulated, controlled and misguided by these people who are
the leaders that are there, and they still keep doing
the same thing over and over again. Now you got
a fictional character, I think it's the mother of the

(02:27:50):
main American character of the Marine, and she kind of
goes through this transformation that I think a lot of
people in America did. I remember when it first started,
you know, my family conservative, so they would yeah, this is,
you know, gonna make the world say for democracy type
of thing. And then gradually he started to understand what
this war was really about. And I think you've got
a character that represents that in the Mother. Is that correct?

Speaker 13 (02:28:13):
Betty? Betty is the mother of Chip, and she, you know,
is college educated. She's from Minnesota and a wonderful woman.
Gives her son to the United States Marine Corps. And
then a guy, a funny guy by the name of
Muhammad Ali says, I'm not going to kill brown people.

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You know, this is an immoral war. And what she
shocked by is that the media doesn't report his words.
And she finds his words from a friend and she's like,
why isn't Walter Cronkite saying why Muhammad Ali won't go?
And then a guy by the name of doctor Martin

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Luther King stands up in Riverside Church and says, the
United States government is the biggest purveyor of violence in
the world. This we are supporting a dictatorship. Ho Chiman
is the George Washington. We cannot win. One hundred and
fifty three newspapers criticize doctor King. But the key is

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nobody read doctor King's speech because the Washington Post, New
York Times AP nobody would reprint it because it was
the truth. And guess what, Doctor King got a bullet
in the head one year to the day of that
anti Vietnam speech this weeks.

Speaker 2 (02:29:41):
They really don't not too concerned about killing people, are they.
I mean, you know, it can be one on one
or it can be tens of thousands of people.

Speaker 13 (02:29:47):
Yeah, And this wakes Betty up, and Betty slowly begins
with a friend of hers who's a librarian, to see that,
Oh my god, she's she's support in this violence. Unconsciously,
she doesn't know that she gave her son to this
wrong cause. And of course her son comes back damaged

(02:30:11):
like so many of all of them. You know, my father,
he's a symbol of heroism. Donald Trump has got my
dad right behind him. If you look at a shot
of Trump in the Oval Office, the Egojima statue is
right behind him. My father cried in his sleep for

(02:30:32):
the first four years of his marriage. I learned that
after he died. My mom told me, you know, this
is war. We have got to stop talking about heroism
and start to own up to if you want to
go to war, let's have the Trump kids go first.
And then you know, the grandkids of Marco Rubio and

(02:30:54):
Pete Haigseth must have somebody, you know, send them off first.
My dad was on to yu Jima and there were
colonels in front of them. There were colonels getting shot.
Come on, boys, they were leading from the front. In Vietnam,
the colonels were in helicopters and in the back. Boys,
you go out there. The military changed after World War

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Two and we still have not righted it.

Speaker 2 (02:31:22):
Yeah, leading from the rear, except that you know, Trump
put out that picture of him as the Robert Duval
character and apocalypse. Now It's like, if that isn't disturbing,
I don't know what is. If he sees himself that way,
a guy who has never been to war and he's
going to be the guy quarterbacking this from the back,

(02:31:43):
and when you look at just the disconnect that is
there and the lack of depth as he talked to
these generals that he summoned in there, well, it's truly
is amazing, and it really is something I think the
people will need to pull back and take a look
at what a just war is, and they need to

(02:32:04):
look at our history of idiotic aggression. I mean, we're
about to do this again in several different places. I mean,
they want to go into Venezuela, they would like to
get involved. I think in Iran, who you talk about
a quagmire in Iran, as large as that country is,
and the history that we've had with them, a lot
of pent up anger because of what the CIA has

(02:32:28):
done in Iran for a very long time. We just
don't seem to learn those lessons. And it's a very
important lesson to learn, isn't it.

Speaker 13 (02:32:36):
Well, why can't we learn those lessons? You know you
should be broadcast, you know, prime time. But you're telling
the truth. So, I mean, you know what you say
about Iran. I lived in Iran. Iranian saved my life.
I learned that Iran is Persia, Iran is not you know,

(02:32:58):
Iran is not in bond in Baltimore. You know, China's
not in San Francisco Bay. We could we have I'm
out here in Mauritius in the middle of the Indian Ocean,
and at night I can almost hear all the billions
of dollars of equipment that America is prepositioning here to
bomb Ran, Like why, why, let's stop it, Let's make

(02:33:23):
Chicago great, you know, put the money in Saint Louis
rather than out here in Diego Garcia. But this is
what the book is about. That's why Oliver Stone said,
if we knew what I found out in Precious Freedom,
mothers would have never given their kids to go to
Iraq and Afghanistan.

Speaker 2 (02:33:43):
Yes, we need to be skeptical of what the government
is telling us when it gets us into these warriors.
And now I'm afraid they we're probably going to say
and if you know, people had known this, we wouldn't
have gotten involved in Venezuela and Iran and start, you know,
a war with China and Ukraine and all these other
things that we're trying to escalate. Look at how many
different theaters we're in right now, and these are big fights.

(02:34:06):
And I think it was Colonel Douglas McGregor said, we're
really picking fights. You know, we can't catch these checks. Essentially,
to paraphrase what he had to say, we're still doing
that everywhere. It's incredibly bad leadership that we have civilian
as well as military.

Speaker 13 (02:34:23):
That's the story of precious freedom.

Speaker 2 (02:34:25):
Yes.

Speaker 13 (02:34:25):
That the reason I'm talking about the book, and I'm
so grateful that you're getting it out there, is it's
not just it's not a book about the Vietnam War.
It's a book about America, American media, how we are
being fooled, the military industrial complex, you know, and how

(02:34:49):
the world sees us, and how we're taking our innocent
sons and daughters and whipping them into these froths of
what we call patriotism and them over to situations that
they cannot win in. So, you know, but again, it
took me ten years to figure it out. Vietnam. You know,

(02:35:11):
I thought of Vietnam as some dark place, you know,
the jungles, and they're growing by eight percent a year.
The Vietnamese are confident, they will welcome you if you
go there. And I realized Vietnam War was a tragedy
for them, but it was a victory. They won. They
have the confidence of winners, and you know, I tipped

(02:35:34):
my hat to all the American Vietnam veterans. They did
a they did what they were trained to do. The
problem was our leaders put them in a jar that
was impossible to break out a situation, and we lied
and lied and lied. I believed all, you know, I'm

(02:35:55):
seventy one now, I believed many of these lies till
I was, you know, fifty three and went to Vietnam.

Speaker 2 (02:36:03):
Let me ask you about Walter Cronkite, cause you mentioned
him a couple of times, and you know, Operation mocking
Bird was very prevalent. Then we know that he was
very friendly to the CIA narratives and stuff like that.
But at the same time as that was happening, I
heard criticism from the rights saying, you know, he's going
to cause us to lose the war because he's reading
the names of the men every night that are killed

(02:36:24):
in this war. What is your take on how that
was that part of the propaganda?

Speaker 13 (02:36:29):
The krink Kite, c Cronkkite, you know, it's just like
all our prostitutes right now, they successfully, you know, go
down the line so that the CIA will keep them,
you know, in the chair, and they appear to be
you know, all this war, you know, people are dying.

(02:36:51):
Walter Cronkite was went to Vietnam a number of times.
He knew William Colby of the CIA, who was running
the CIA operation. William Colby later admitted that the United
States secretly the CIA kidnapped eighty thousand innocent civilians, tortured them,

(02:37:11):
tortured him, killed them eighty thousand. He admitted this to Congress.
Walter Cronkite, David Alberson, all these guys knew what was happening.
It was a torture program. We had torture centers all
over South Vietnam. They knew, you know, but they didn't
admit that we bombed Laos. There was an airport in

(02:37:34):
Laos that was the busiest airport in the world in
the middle sixties. Where was Walter Cronkite. Yeah, William Westmoreland.
General west Moreland was probably the biggest opium dealer of
the nineteen sixties, running opium through the Saigon airport out
to that was the French connection out to the Mediterranean,

(02:37:56):
washing the money in the Vatican Bank. This was all
William was what happened to William west Morland after Johnson
kicked him upstairs, he went to be Chief of Staff
of the Army and he started to work on Gladio
in fighting the communists in Italy. This was a worldwide

(02:38:17):
opium network that started, you know, in the Golden Triangle.
They shipped it out of Vietnam because we controlled it militarily.
You're talking about billions of dollars of CIA money. So
Walter Cronkite didn't know this. Our top newsman, Morley Safer,
couldn't figure this out.

Speaker 2 (02:38:40):
It wasn't on the script they were given. Yeah, when
you look at Afghanistan and what's happened, what happened there
with opium stuff, It's amazing that we keep seeing, you know,
all of these different that how they've used the war
on drugs to fund their military operations. I'm thinking of
wrong contract and other things like that. The CIA is

(02:39:03):
a whole nother story. Maybe maybe we'll do a book
on them one day as well. So you know, when
we look at this moving forward, there's a lot of
a lot of different characters that you're able to with
the fiction thing, a lot of different people stories that're
able to pull into a fictional account. That'd be difficulties

(02:39:24):
you said to do. Otherwise, tell us little bit more
about the book and your approach to that.

Speaker 13 (02:39:30):
Well, you know, mister Song was a twenty one year
old Viet Cong leader. When I was thirteen years old,
I watched CBS news and they said, here we are
on Route nine. Route nine is the key artery that
cuts across the parallel to the DMZ, and the Marines
are out on Route nine. And I looked and I thought, well,

(02:39:52):
my brother's Marines control Route nine. So I go out
to Route nine. Years later with mister Song, I said, oh, yeah,
this is Route nine. I remember seeing this in newsreels
back when I was a kid. He said, you didn't
see us in those. He said, you didn't see me
in those newsreels. And I said, what do you mean.

(02:40:12):
Your nickname is the Tiger of Route nine. Why didn't
I see you? He said, because American shot all the
newsreels during the day. He said, we were sleeping during
the day. Ho Chi Minh said, America has eyes in
the sky. Don't fight during the day. He said, I
didn't fight in the day. I fought at night. It's
easy to be courageous at night. So what I didn't

(02:40:35):
realize is America never dominated Vietnam for a twenty four
hour period. I'll repeat that America was never winning, not
even for twenty four hours, because every day at four pm,
what did the Marines do. They retreated and they dug
a hole. They went back in, they put wire around,

(02:40:58):
they put mines, and they tried to get some sleep.
And that's when the viet Cong came out. They had
specialists trained to walk like spiders through these minefields and
disconnect them all and then attack the Marines at night.
So after the sleepless Marines woke up the survivors, they

(02:41:18):
couldn't go out on Route nine. They had to have
mine sweepers. There are all sorts of mines out there.
The Vietnamese were fighting at night. You need night goggles,
night film to see the Vietnam War from the view
of the Vietnamese. And the other thing is, you know,
President Obama told a group of Vietnam veterans, you won

(02:41:42):
every battle. Well, what are you talking about. Ho Chi
Minh trained his people, he said, don't win a battle.
He said, we're just going to ambush. If you knock
off the pinky of a marine, they'll report that home.
There'll be doctors, they'll be you know, tourniquets. He said,
you know, you just you ambush, quick in, quick out.

(02:42:05):
The three quicks and the one slow. The three quicks,
you know, get ready, attack withdraw, what's the one slow? Prepare?
He said, never attack unless you have the advantage. So
if I was fifteen in Wisconsin, David, I could figure
that out. I'm going to see this Canadian army moving

(02:42:26):
in a bunch with helmets. I'm not going to attack them.
They could kill me, but I'm going to get them.
You know, when they turn the corner, they're not looking,
you know, sling shots, get them in the knee, run away,
hide in the bush. They were ambushing us. We never
controlled Vietnam for a twenty four hour period. Wow.

Speaker 2 (02:42:48):
Yeah, that's very different from whatever I've always heard the line,
Like you'd point out, with Obama, he's not the first
or only one who said that. I've heard that from
a lot of people who want every battle, but then
they would turn away and leave it, you know. So
that was their best case example of trying to explain
what was happening there. And even when they put that
spin on it, it's like we had leadership that could

(02:43:10):
win every battle and lose the war. What's the matter
with this? But that puts a whole new spin on it.
The fact that they're pulling back constantly. And of course
the Vietnamese understood that they were fighting a war of attrition,
and you know, they that's because he understood America and
he understood that, as you point out, because they had

(02:43:31):
a lot of experience with other invaders. It's that war
of attrition, and that's how we always lose these wars,
these asymmetric wars. We go in and try to occupy
a country and turn it into what we want it
to be. Then it turns into a war of attrition.
And that truly is an amazing insight that's very different
from what we heard. That's why it's important for people

(02:43:52):
to see this book. I think, you know, and.

Speaker 13 (02:43:55):
I'm a Wisconsin talking to somebody in Texas. If I
bring up, of course, the number one game in the
history of football, the Ice Bowl nineteen sixty seven, Dallas
Cowboys lambeau Field Vince Lombardi, Bart Starr. If you look
at the stats, the Dallas Cowboys rushed for more yards,

(02:44:17):
they had more sacks. You could look at the stats,
and that's like the Vietnam War. It's as if the
Texas news media said, hey, look, we won that game
in lambeau Field, that Ice Bowl for the NFL Championship.
Look we ran for more yards, Look we had more sacks.
Look at this stat. Look at that stat. But in

(02:44:39):
the end, the Green Bay Packers, bart star Vince Lombardi
won and Ho Chi Minh was the Vince Lombardi general.
Ziapp was the winning US general of the twentieth century.
And I'm not saying this to rub it in. I'm
saying it to if we had realized these things, and
even if we would realize what happened in Vietnam, that's

(02:45:03):
the source. You know, folks, there's a David Knight Gold
and David you and I don't know each other. We
didn't talk about this in advance. I would, you know,
recommend everybody right now take your dollars, go to David
Knight Gold, get some gold. Why am I saying that?
In nineteen sixty six, the Prime Minister of Vietnam told

(02:45:24):
the New York Times, you're going to go off the
gold standard. This war is going to ruin the dollar.
He told that to the Times. The Times readers in
sixty six couldn't figure it out. Seventy one, Nixon goes on,
it's because of Vietnam. The reason we lost in Iraq
and Afghanistan is we didn't look at the lessons of Vietnam.

(02:45:48):
The economy, the debt, the riots that we have right now,
the government line, these are all stories that came you know,
the seed of them is in the Vietnam War, and
they're in this book Precious Freedom.

Speaker 2 (02:46:04):
Yes, we keep making those same types of decisions. You
know when you talk about the general who went around
telling everybody that Ho Chi Minh was like George Washington,
and that really is the way that we won the
Revolutionary war again defending your home. And it wasn't like
they won any battles. I mean, they won your town.
That was like basically the first of battle that they

(02:46:26):
really won. But they were all wars of attrition and
it was like, you know, the British could say, yeah,
we got those guns and conquered in Lexington, but they
got hammered the entire time they were coming back. And
we need to think in those terms, and we need
to stop thinking like the world's policemen, and we just

(02:46:46):
can't get that through to people. Maybe you know, your
book can get that into people's minds, that perspective and
how we have just the wrong approach in terms of
doing this. But again, I think it comes back to
the fact that and things are only getting worse in
this regard that we don't have the proper kind of
determination whether we're going to get involved in a war.

(02:47:09):
I mean, we look at the wars that we've had
since World War Two. It's predominantly been because there hasn't
been a real consideration or discussion of what's happened. We've
been lied into it and pushed into it by the
executive branch and a supine Pentagon that is there. It's
interesting that you mentioned Wes Moreland. I didn't know about

(02:47:29):
his involvement with Gladio. I mean I've looked at Gladio
quite a bit, but I didn't notice that he was there.
And we should think about that part of it as well.
I mean, NATO has got an unbelievable history when you
go back and look at NATO, not just the things
that are happening in Eastern Europe, but a long, long
history of false flags and things like that. Yeah, the

(02:47:53):
book is precious freedom and I tell you freedom is
precious and so is life, and we have allowed our
government to put them on a very low priority. They've
got a different priority. We need to start waking up
as a people, and I think the important thing is
that we have to. And you know, when you've got

(02:48:14):
a fictional narrative like this, it's very powerful because you
can get into people's feelings in a way that's difficult
to do in a nonfiction book. And I think that
that ability to tell a narrative story like that can
really affect people's hearts and minds. And that's what this

(02:48:35):
is all truly about. That was something that was a
big part of the Vietnamese the north of the Vietnam
War was the hearts and minds that they were losing.
And we need to make sure that they don't have
control of our hearts and minds again. And I think
the best anecdote is to have the truth presented to
them in a very effective way. And I think your
book is one of those ways that people can get

(02:48:58):
that message out to be Well, thank you, they appreciate.

Speaker 13 (02:49:02):
That, thank you for giving me the chance to talk
about it.

Speaker 2 (02:49:05):
Well, thank you for what you're doing. I think it's
very important work, and I think it's important for people
to see this. And we all grew up a Vietnam
and I think it's also important for people to go
back and to question what they were told. And once
you do that, that's a real eye opening experience. And
so many of us have had that experience with Vietnam.

(02:49:27):
I know a lot of people who went to Vietnam
and they had that same kind of experience and were
severely harmed by that. But our country was severely harmed
by the Vietnam War. So again, the book is precious freedom.
And people can find it on Amazon. Is that the
best place for people to find your book? Do you
have a website that you're just allient? Okay, jump to Amazon.

Speaker 13 (02:49:48):
It will be you'll get it delivered November eleventh. It's
being you know, officially published, but pre orders you don't
really help a lot. And it's you know, this is
going to have a lot of readership in Asia. Vietnam
is not a small American story. It was global.

Speaker 2 (02:50:09):
Yes, it should be made into a movie. I like
your other book was. I think it would probably. Yeah,
I think it'd be a great movie. It's a story
that really needs to be told. Who knows, maybe Clint
Eastwood will do it. He's still game for doing movies.
He's not giving up yet of that. But maybe we'll
find a good director, if there's any left in Hollywood.
I don't know, but it'd be a great movie, I'm sure.

(02:50:31):
Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you, James Bradley,
and again, the book is precious freedom. We're going to
take a quick break, folks, and we will be right back.
Stay with us.

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Speaker 2 (02:52:52):
All right, and I want to get some of your
comments here. And I saw this Lance, but this here,
do you have any thoughts about I should have asked
him about the Vietnam bank accounts and their digital ID
push that. I should have asked him about that. But anyway,
I didn't see her comment there. Lance. That would have
been a great question. High Boost says Vietnam was a

(02:53:13):
distraction for the communists in America to take over the
US government. Yeah, you want to talk about the domino theory.
Let's talk about one bureaucracy after the other. Let's talk
about one college after the other. Let's talk about college
and kindergarten and K through twelve, all the rest of
this stuff. That's your domino theory. That was what was

(02:53:34):
happening while we were distracted abroad and fighting a kinetic war.
The Commis were taking over our country left and right
with this guard Goldsmith ken Burns is a rabid propagandist. Yeah,
I agree. I really enjoyed his Civil War thing. And
it was totally fake. I mean, I enjoyed the way

(02:53:55):
the presentation and the music, the theme song from it
type of stuff, but I knew too much about history
to take it seriously. I enjoyed listening to Shelby Foot
every once in a while he'd have him on, but
it was an interesting approach they took with the still pictures. Nevertheless,
as you're right, he's a propagandist. His PBS docs are

(02:54:17):
filled with misrepresentation, partial truce to push a big DC
narrative each time. He just does great soundtracks. I got
to give him that. You know, he's a good at
what he does, although the truth he is not there
in the In the documentaries, Jerry al Atalo says a
good follow up documentary to the Fog of War would

(02:54:40):
be The Stupidity of War. Yeah, GDP three three Oh
does he mention the Gulf of Tonkin incident in this book?
Israel can nearly sink the USS liberty with zero consequences,
yet we go to war with Vietnam for its supposedly
attacking one of our subs. Good point. Yeah, and macnamar

(02:55:00):
admitted in the Fog of War that that was completely
a false flag. So he said, we didn't know what
happened with that, and we manufactured, well, could it have
been this, could it have been that? Yeah, okay, well
then we'll call it that. And so yeah, that's the
way they led us into that it was totally a
false flag. Replying to Defy Tyrants seventeen seventy six, they said,
America has no right and authority to overthrow governments around

(02:55:23):
the world. Every time America does that, we leave it
worse off than before. America causes chaos, misery, and death
all around the world. Yeah, and it is the CIA
that is usually the ones that are involved in that.
You know, they're overthrowing governments, and every time they do it,
we wind up with the worst situation. It sounds like
the globalist one in Vietnam, says tunnel Lord one three

(02:55:44):
three seven. But regular people fought back and won. You know,
you look at it and it's like, what really was
their goal? I imagine it was kind of a neocolonialism
that they wanted to set up a foothold there right
underneath China. And because they did push that narrative that
you know, we were really fighting China, that was really

(02:56:06):
the goal that was there. It was just right now,
we're fighting in Vietnam. But perhaps that was what it was.
Maybe they wanted a military base. They're close to China.
Who knows, Karen Carpenter twenty seven. We have a lot
of people whose parents and grandparents had to leave Vietnam
and Laos because they worked with Americans in the war.
Among people, yes, yes. As a matter of fact, our

(02:56:29):
daughter that we adopted was from hepw, which is about
one hundred miles from it's in China. It's about one
hundred miles from Hanoi. And when we brought her back
and took her to church, there were a couple there.
Both of them had been Both the man and the
wife had both been in the American military in Vietnam,
and they said, oh, you adopted a Vietnamese child. It's like, yeah,

(02:56:52):
I don't know. Could have been. They were so close that,
you know, people were going back and forth between those
cities that were there. Gene x is. The backstory of
the relationship between the Vietnam War and oil exploration is
often ignored. Well, usually there's oil somewhere and involved in that.
I don't know that story. CJ. Prumble says, what a

(02:57:16):
disgrace that we have been post World War two. Absolutely true.
I mean when we look at it, and I credit
Truman for kicking all this stuff off, because you know,
he was the one who started this whole idea, we're
going to be the policeman of the world, and you know,
we're going to the Korean War and that type of thing.
But he also created the National Security State, he created

(02:57:36):
the CIA, the NSA, and so it was really kind
of his approach and we have built upon that and
it's metastasized like a cancer. Be my Valentine says, there
were so many demonstrations against the Vietnam War. I agree,
And you know, as I started watching this, and as
I started in my perspective on it was, you know,

(02:57:57):
they're just playing at this thing. You know, it's like
if you go in, if you're gonna take the narrative
that I had heard all the time, not not what
James had just said, but the narrative that we won
every battle, but then we abandoned the fields and let
them take it over. It was probably, you know, certainly
on a twenty four hour basis, that was definitely true.

(02:58:18):
But I looked at that it's like, these guys are
not serious and they're playing with the lives of everybody.
And so, you know, when I was already against the war,
but I saw these Vietnam demonstrations, all the hippies and
all the rest of the stuff, I saw that as
counterproductive because i'd see the same thing that I see
now with MAGA. You know, you'd have conservatives who start

(02:58:41):
to come around and say, wait a minute, they're just
playing with our sons over there, and they're not really
serious about winning this, and I don't know why we're
there in the first place. They would start to wake
up with that, and then you would bring in the hippies,
you'd bring in the dirty drug eye hippies, and they
would start rioting, and everybody else, well, that's it. If
they're against it, on for it. And we still see

(02:59:01):
that today with the political fights that we have. People
will look at it, they won't think about the principles.
Once they see somebody he's like, oh, I don't like
people like that, And if people like that are for
it or against it, then I'm on the opposite side.
And so there was this kind of group thing, and
I really saw these Vietnamese, these Vietnam War demonstrations as
being very counterproductive to trying to get people do the

(02:59:22):
right thing. Adrian was right, says paradoxically, the Vietnamese love
American capitalism. Now, that's right, so much so that Trump
feels threatened by them, and he's got his forty percent
tariffs on him. Yeah, Madeline Albright, a million dead children
is worth it. Yeah, she's where she belongs right now. Yeah,
that's true. They really don't care. They don't care about

(02:59:44):
our lives. They don't care about the lives the course
of other people either. That is the attitude of these people.
They think they are a different specie than we are.
They think we're simply animals. That's a very dangerous thing.
We see that in so many leaders on both sides
of the aisle. Thank you for joining us. Have a
good day. The common man. They created common Core and

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man as simple, unsophisticated ordinary. But each of us has
worth and dignity created in the image of God. That

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is what we have in common. That is what they
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