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March 21, 2025 51 mins
Broadcasting from the historic Four Corners of Freedom in Kingston, New York, Gerald Celente, TrendsJournal.com joins Gard Goldsmith and pulls no punches—blasting billionaire war hawks, power-hungry ‘daddy’s boys’ like Trump, Cuomo, and Trudeau, and the sinister ‘club’ running the world into chaos. From the Middle East’s bloodshed to an impending economic meltdown—think skyrocketing oil prices and a dotcom bust 2.0—Celente delivers a wake-up call that’s as shocking as it is undeniable.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
All right and joining us now we get the opportunity
to speak to a man I respect greatly and admire greatly.
He is the great Gerald Soilente speaking to us from Kingston,
New York, the four Corners of History. Gerald, welcome back
to the David Knight Show. I salute you from afar,
from New Hampshire, and it's great to see you again

(00:27):
after I saw you a few months ago down in Kingston.
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Gerald, Thank you and thank you for your kind words,
and thank you for coming to the the Occupied Peace Rally.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Oh it was wonderful. I loved being able to see
you there. It was great to see Scott Ritter. The
video from Roger Waters was phenomenal and what a crowd.
You put on a great show, Gerald, a great show.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Thank you. You know it's it's so sad. There is
no real you know, we're doing on a one man show.
I mean, you know we had judging of Politano. Scott Ritter,
you said, you know, Randy Critico bought Roger Waters there,
you know, a live stream from me and there's no support.

(01:12):
There's no real big support. Could you imagine could you
imagine if the billionaires put a billion dollars for peace.
We'd have it tomorrow, Absolutely, we'd have it tomorrow. Not
a penny. You know, one of my tenants, and you
were there. You see the beautiful buildings I have on
the four Corners of freedom, only four corners in America

(01:34):
with pre revolutionary warstone buildings. One of them I rented
out for a number of years to Warren Buffett's son,
Peter Buffett. Oh, never gave me a penny for peace.
Not a penny.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
They have so many other things on their agenda, don't they.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Not a penny for peace. And again, an arrogant guy.
He never even would they love the landlord. He wouldn't
say lo to me. I'm only a little guinea from
the Bronx. Don't you know who My daddy isn't dad?

Speaker 1 (02:08):
That's the way they look at all of us like batteries.
For generations, they have looked at us as sources of
energy for their war machine and for their special interest.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Y arrogant little pieces of crap. You call these guys
out man to man. They don't know whether to piss
of shit. They fold like that. There are a bunch
of arrogant pieces a crap. Oh you don't believe me.
Take a look at what's going on in New York City.
We got little Andy Cuomo. Another little daddies boy. My

(02:42):
daddy was Mario Cuomo. I'm renaming the Tappinsie Bridge after
my daddy. Oh yeah, a little bastard to close down
New York State and destroyed it when he was the
governor of New York. Oh, they threw him out because
what he's accused of filling up with chicks. Now he's

(03:04):
leading the race in New York to become mais.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
And he's he's and he's all talking about crime and
trying to protect people. How did how many people died
as a result of that guy's policies? How many old
people died because he thought he had the prerogative to
take people's tax money and operate a machinery of death,
putting old people in with each other who were sick, unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Took him out of hospitals and put him in nursing homes.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Insane, absolutely crazy and arrogant.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
And I could keep going on with these daddies boys.
Let's do another one. How about you? Just a button
not far from you, a place called Canada. Remember a
little pie. What's his name? Mudge?

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Justin dope.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Oh my daddy was a Fidel Castro. I forget how
about the little slimeball, arrogant piece of stuff. You cannot
out like that. Hey, I'm Athony Bacon. I was the
Secretary of State under Biden. Oh I promoted the now

(04:13):
I was gonna say, the gettocide war.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
But Gerald was. The thing that gets me is agreed.
The thing that gets me is they all operate under
these artifices of gentility, where you've got Justin Trudeau after
while he's getting ready to trample a seventy plus year
old woman out out in Ottawa with horses, and he

(04:38):
breaches the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, and he
does he prevents travel between the provinces, which is forbidden.
They're supposed to be traveled between the provinces. He sends
Canadian truths in there. What's that don't matter? Yeah, they
don't care. Blincoln doesn't care about the Constitution. He'll jet

(04:59):
all around the world, stand very tall, and offer as
many weapons as the criminal Netnyahu wants. And then to
add things to add insult to injury, you've got Fetterman
going and meeting with that genocidal maniac and his wife
who's up on charges. And you get another presentation of

(05:19):
a beeper present to Fetterman and he says, oh, yeah,
I really loved when I saw that. They're blowing kids'
hands off.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
They're blowing killing people. Look Like, what I'm saying is,
you know you're going through all these things. The facts
don't matter. It's being run by evil people. End of story.
And I'm going on about how they're all little George Colin,
great comedian. It's one big club and you ain't in it.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Absolutely And by the.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Way, his brother Patrick used to work for me.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Really yeah wow and.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
For a number of quite a while. But anyway, the
look at the little clown boy that you were talking
before about, you know, the patrioarch all this other stuff. Yeah,
Georgie Bush, Yeah, a little more on of a clown.
Don't you know? My daddy was, don't you my uncle was.
I'm telling you it's one big club.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
So we're talking about the facts and what they're doing this,
it doesn't make any difference. They're evil people, bottom line,
and the story. They're evil people running a country near you.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Jered, I'm curious to get your thoughts because as we
look at the snapshot of things right now, the way
they are, and you know, we lay these things out,
it's so easy to recognize how so many people want
entrance into the club. Right you get these people Pam Bondy,
or it's or it's a woman from New Hampshire, Caroline
Levitt now the spokeswoman, you know, coming up with all

(06:56):
these ridiculous claims about people who are here on green
card status, and they're going to ship them away because
they don't like the protesting on college campuses, and they're
going to use the same kind of terminology that was
used by the Bidenistas against Catholics as potential terrorists, and
they're going to ship them out just because they're calling

(07:18):
for peace. So with that snapshot the way things are today,
I'd love to get your thoughts, and in fact, let's
get there. We have a Russian team here because we
spread the Russian propaganda Gerald in my studio. I want
to show people the Trends journal given what we're seeing
today with these attacks on civil liberties, and they're very
clearly attacks on civil liberties. They can't use the alien

(07:40):
that the alien enemies act unless there's a declared war,
and they're using it anyway, and Conservatives aren't talking about it.
They don't care because they want to be part of
that club. Now they think that they're in there. They think, oh,
Cash Betel's in at the FBI, he's now part of
the club. No, he's being used by the people who
control the club. Tell me what you think right now

(08:00):
about things about, for example, the Middle East, how the
Israelis broke the peace, how they continued to insist and
I tried to stress this to people at Anti Ward.
Dave DeCamp, Max Blumenthal has done a great job covering this,
as so as Aaron monte As. They've described how the
Israelis continued to break the ceasefire arrangements, demanding that only

(08:22):
certain prisoners be released by hamas you've got to put
soldiers out. First. I thought they cared about the civilians,
and then they broke it themselves, starving people. As we
look at that, and we look at the threats they're
trying to target aroand they're bombing the hooties, Trump coming
off a golf course to kill innocent kids in a
cancer ward. Where do you see some of these war

(08:44):
trends and how they work towards the trends that you're
seeing for things like crude oil and other things that
people might start seeing affected here in the United States.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
We're going to see if Trump keeps talking up going
after Iran and Israel and the United States go to
war with Iran, You're going to see Brent crude, which
is now around seventy dollars a barrel, go to around
one hundred and twenty dollars a barrel, and that'll crash

(09:16):
the global economy and the global equity markets, simple as that.
And these are some of the quotes. This is the
BS spewing out of Trump's mouth. We're going to have
peace through strength. We will not have to fight. I'm
moving quickly to end wars, settle conflicts, and restore the

(09:41):
planet to peace. I want peace. I'm not going to
start a war. I'm going to stop wars. Those are
some of Trump's quotes. What are you talking about. You're
threatening the whu Thies, You're saying you're going to Oh
he calls them barbarians. Are they're barbarians? Or why the

(10:05):
Huthi's bombing these ships? They said they're bombing the ships
because of what you're doing to the Palestinian people. And
when you stop it, will stop it. How dare they
try to stop the slaughter of the Palestinian people. What's
going on in front of everybody's eyes, and it's barely

(10:26):
reported in the Western media anymore, the destruction, bombing this
place into ruins. Depending on the numbers, you'll look at
Lanced for example, says well over one hundred thousand Palestinians
have been killed already. The place has been totally demolished.
Now they're Israel's violated to cease fire agreement. You know,

(10:48):
they haven't left Lebanon. They've gotten five areas that they're securing.
Now they're bombing it virtually every day, knocking out entire neighborhoods.
And if you come out against them, why you're an
anti Semite. And that's the other thing I really want
to make clear. The people running Israel are not Semites.

(11:09):
Semites google it up, are from the Mesopotamia region. These
are Askar, Nazi, Jews, esh k e n a z
i Ashka Nazis. Oh be Gorrian, No, no, not Bengorian.

(11:30):
The cat made up the name man, It's great. Oh,
how about yet Yahoo, you mean Milakowski, right, these are
all Eastern Europeans Kazars and you look up, how wonderful
the Kazars was. Oh yeah, a murderous group that they
had to wipeout at one time. Oh, by the way,

(11:52):
they didn't convert to Judaism into what like about three
hundred a d or something.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, yeah, and you know over back.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
What they're doing now. They are going to do everything
they can to wipe out the Palestitians. They've thrown out
over forty thousand Palacetitians out of the West Bank, out
of their homes. Forty thousand people, forty thousand people out
of their homes. Oh and if you fight against them, they're.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Militants, you're the bad guy. It's the ultimate gas light.
It's incredible. I'll refer actually right now, just to show
you over at anti War. Here's another example. Dave DeCamp
released this yesterday. White House Trump fully supports Israel's Gaza
slaughter YEP. White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt said Thursday
that President Trump fully supports Israel's renewed massive bombing campaign

(12:49):
in Gaza, which has killed at least two hundred children
since Tuesday. What really strikes me is Caroline Levitt coming
from New Hampshire's. Yeah, she used to do again.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
You don't ask crazy people why they're crazy, murderers why
they're ye do don't you know? Don't even You don't
even waste your time thinking about the person. Yeh, slime
ball pieces of crap. Oh. By the way, I was
the assistant to the Secretary of the New York State Senate.
All right, I used to work on major political campaigns

(13:20):
in Westchester County. I taught American politics and campaign technology
how to run political campaigns in Westchester County at Saint
John's University. I got pictures of me when I picked
up Ronald Reagan put on a brunch with sixteen hour
board of directors. I know what the steal is. These
are low life pieces of scum, and that's why I quit.

(13:44):
But I wouldn't know what I know if I wasn't
on the other side. So you don't waste your time
thinking about why these people are doing that. You don't
ask a murderer why they were a murderer, thief why
they were a thief. They're evil people, they're sellout little
pieces of scum. So going back to what you're talking
about with with Trump, what you were just reading. Yeah,

(14:11):
Trump warns Yemen Huthy's they will be quote completely annihilated.
He said, tremendous damage has been flicted upon the houthy barbarians,

(14:32):
and watch how it will get progressively worse. It's not
even a fair fight, never will be. This is Trump
wrote this, They will be completely annihilated. That's out of
the mouth of this fat boy who same age as
I am, who got four or five draft defrontments during

(14:56):
the Vietnam War.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Right, real tough guy, Real tough guy.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
You know. One of the deferments was when he got
out a bone spur on his ankle.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Ah, you must have been playing too much golf before
he went to bomb people.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, his dad was out. Yeah, at once with Trump's
brother in twenty seventeen, his brother Robin. Robin had a
restaurant over here. They Its story was it was one
of Trump's old girlfriends. You would help him keep it
going anyway. I spent three hours with him. The brother
told me that when the father died, he left the

(15:34):
family over half a billion dollars worth of real estate.
Trump is nothing more than a spoiled daddy's boy. It's
all he is. And now he talks real tough, a
line piece of scum, And I'm saying that from what
he said before. Are you ready? I want to see

(15:56):
the Middle East get back to peace and real peace, yes,
but a piece that is going to be a lasting piece.
I want immediate peace. Hey, a slime bull, you just
said that you're going to annihilate the Huthis and you're
calling them barbarians. Oh, don't call the Israelis barbarians for

(16:21):
slaughtering all these innocent people. Oh no, how dare you right? Right?

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Exactly? It's reminds me of the words of a mafioso
in a region where the mafia has claimed control and
they're now trying to expand their territory. They've got agents
in some other place that are engaging and killing people
and assassinating people. And when somebody from a nearby town
says I'm going to try to bring peace so that

(16:50):
those people can get food, they're now going to attack them,
the hooties, and they're claiming that they're the bad guys.
It is pure gaslighting. It's incredible and and the thing
that gets me about it is. I was listening to
Dave DeCamp talk about one of the surgeons who went
down into Gaza from America and has repeatedly gone in
and the descriptions of what had been done to those

(17:12):
kids and women, and how these people can act in
this way and additionally swears to the Constitution without even
getting a declared war and get away with it. Means
that it's incumbent on me to educate and try to
spread the word as much as possible.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
It again, what's your favorite war? Do you like the
Peloponnesian War? Maybe you liked the one hundred Year War? Oh?
The war Roses was so lovely? Hey, what's your favorite crew? Saying?
I like the twelfth better than the eighth? All right,
this stuff isn't going on forever, right, These are evil people,
you see. You mentioned the mafia, all right as an Italian? Yo,

(17:57):
those here about the mafia? You know the mafia?

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (18:01):
All right? How about the royal family? Hey, if there
were Italian you call them a mafia? What royal family
in what country are you talking about? Oh? The royal
family in Belgium that slaughtered people all over the congo.
Oh no, no, you mean the Royal family of the

(18:22):
United Kingdom with the sun never set on the British Empire,
and we slaughtered people all over the world. If there
were Italian, they call them a mafia.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Exactly, exactly.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah, I'm tired of this mafia shit.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Then, Gerald, Gerald, I want to show you something fun.
Jay Bo's from Moscow Mules posted this earlier today. I
think you'll appreciate it. I showed it a few minutes
ago on the show. UK police have released images of
two people seen wearing stolen jewels from India and South
Africa in central London yesterday. They are both unemployed and
totally reliant on state benefits.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yeah, look at look, look at this. This is a
clown show. It's a clown show. Look at them. What
human being would go so low to dress like that?
You think it's Halloween every day?

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
No, that's what I'm trying to say. It's a crime syndicate.
If they were Italian, all these people, you'd call it
a mafia. It's a mafia murderers and thieves.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Gerald. I'm curious to get your thoughts, and I do
want to mention that if people want to get a
subscription to Trends Journal, and they want to see all
the great reporting that you and your team do. Uh,
they can still get ten percent off if they put
the code night in. Is that correct, Gerald? That's it
great stuff. It's so inexpensive, and the reporting on it.

(19:53):
You can see over on the screen everybody. The Trends
Journal told you. So here's the told you gold prices
would sizzle, equity marcuts would fizzle, And that's exactly right.
And you've got over here. Trump orders airstrikes on Yemen
over Houti defense of Gossin's being starved by Israel. These
are the types of reports that I appreciate because I'm

(20:15):
getting truth, and I'm getting a person who looks at
these things and has for a long time, looks at
these trends, looks at the importance of sound money, looks
at what the United States government has done to artificially
pump up certain sectors of the economy like the housing sector,
and knows what's coming. And you predicted these things, Gerald.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Yeah, Look again, when you put the night thing in
there for the it costs a grand total two dollars
and fifty cents a week. The magazine we cover from
high Tech science, technocracy, AI, geopolitics, economics, give people everything

(21:01):
we can. You can listen to it. It comes in
different languages. It's a book. It could flip. You can
pimp out the PDF and this is by the way,
or else. You can spend four dollars a day and
you can subscribe to the toilet paper or record the
New York Times. Look at this stupid thing. Look at
all this wasted space for a story best tech, the babies.

(21:26):
This is the business section. They're giving you nothing. The
media is gone. We're giving the people everything we can.
And this is an important trend. I'm going to talk
about two of them that nobody's talking about. One is
the office building bus that's going to crash a lot
of the banking system, and you can see the bank
stocks going way down. Now when they launched the COVID

(21:49):
War and they made people work from home, you now
have an office vacancy rate in the ten largest cities
in America of almost twenty percent. Nobody in them. So now,
the COVID War began five years ago January twenty twenty
Chinese Lunar New Year, the year of the rat That's

(22:11):
when they launched it. Now the leases are coming up
after all that time. They're not renewing them. There's going
to be major defaults on these buildings. I'll give you
the facts. Midtown Manhattan last year. Fiftieth Street, a building
that was sold for over three hundred million dollars and

(22:36):
you could google it up in two thousand and six,
was sold last year for eight point five million dollars.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Sports Illustrated used to be there. Here's the deal. The
building again on fiftieth Street, Midtown Manhattan, was in the
middle of the street. No windows on that side, no
windows on that side, no windows in the back. Buildings
built within the last fifty years are not convertible to
residential buildings. And the story they're knocking it down and

(23:14):
they're going to build something else there. This is going
on all over the country. I just told you, showed
you this. There is no journalism anymore. They're not reporting
on this. This is going to bring down the banking system.
Number two.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
It's so insulting and it's such a slight to it's
so disrespectful of people because these are facts that are
staring us in the face.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yep, not being reported at all. There's no more journalism anymore.
It's gone again. You could you could thank in part
this guy Yeah shirt that I did in nineteen ninety two.
It's classic Clinton was running for office.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
I love that, all right? Great?

Speaker 2 (24:02):
This is the slime ball that gave us the Federal
Communications Act in nineteen ninety six. YEP wiped out all
the independent media, did away with all the laws that
prevented the big from taking over. Now six companies control
over ninety two percent of America's media, so that people
aren't getting anything. Number two, dot com bust two point zero.

(24:30):
You're going to see the dot com markets bust big time.
And this is your trends journal when it used to
be quarterly. Now it's a weekly story over here. Dot com.
This this is nineteen ninety nine fall edition. We said
the markets had crashed the dot comy I'll read it
to you. Yeah. Dot Com overload will short circuit many

(24:54):
high expectations for huge profits in internet commerce, entertainment, and
a wider array of dot com comm services. Following the
holiday season, many of today's high flying Internet stocks, the
hottest IPOs and newly emerging IPO wannabes, will have begun
their deep descent from their over valued heights. We said

(25:14):
it would crash by the second quarter two thousand and
it did.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Nailed it, and Neil Gerald going to.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Have a dot com bust, and I'm going to give
you the facts of why. And it's going to crash
the markets and goal prices are going to skyrocket. Here's
why I just talked about slick Willie Clinton. This is
the guy that gave US NAFTA and gave us China

(25:42):
into the World Trade Organization. Tracking trends is making connections
between different fields. Let's go back to two thousand, just
before China got into the World Trade Organization, ten percent
of Chinese eighteen year olds went to college. Ten percent.
Today nearly seventy percent. What does that mean. Let's go

(26:08):
back to the end of January. All of a sudden,
we hear about this company we'd never heard of before,
Deep Seek. Deep Seek. Oh yeah, a Chinese company. We
don't need those big chips for AI. We need smaller chips.
And it's not costing US one hundred million dollars to

(26:30):
pull us off. We did it for six million dollars
on January I think it was January twenty seventh, and
videos stocks Dove seventeen percent wiped out six hundred billion
dollars of value one day. All right, totally out of

(26:51):
the news. Now, by the way, Nvidia look it up,
the most used AI in the world, not envidy excuse me.
Deep Seek. Deep Seek is now the most used AI
in the world. Okay, I'm mentioning about all the young
people going to college. Young people are totally totally high

(27:19):
tech addicted. It's a different world. This is their mindset.
China is going to lead the world in AI. And
again you don't have to believe me. Look at the facts. Hey,
take a look at the hang sang. Oh yeah, why
look at it. From the end of January it was

(27:42):
down like that deep sea hits whoof yep, way way up.
They're investing in these high tech companies at a China.
You go buy the numbers where they got one point
four billion people over there? What do we have over

(28:04):
here about three hundred and forty million? All right, you
got all these young people that are AI addicted. Now
again we only write the facts in the Trends journal.
The government is now supporting it as well, so they're
going to take over and all of these people they
hear the automobile was what invented like Wide eighteen eighty

(28:27):
six or something. Do you invest all your money in
the first company that invented the automobile? You don't invest
your money in the beginning of a trend. Trends are born,
they grow, they mature, reach old age, and die. AI
only began in twenty twenty two, so everybody started investing

(28:48):
in these American companies when the trend just began. Just
what happened with the dot com thing, right, and so
we're looking at a dot com bust that's going to happen.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
You have to have a test of the different types
of entries into the market. And that people are so
eager to just jump aboard they don't realize sometimes they're
jumping aboard a wagon that's got a square wheel.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
You got it.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, So those.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Are two trends that are and then again gold we're
very bullish on and again you look at the magazine cover.
Gold prices are up fourteen percent this year. Theretual year.
One of our top trends was a golden year for gold.
Gold went up twenty seven percent last year. This is

(29:38):
we've never the world has had enough of the United
States to geminy it's going to be the beginning of
the death of the dollar.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
And Gerald, you know, I was speaking with Jason Soren's
of the American Institute for Economic Research over in Great Barrington,
not too far from you, you know, and a beautiful area,
And in fact, I passed by there when I drove
down the first time I met you, when David was there.
I passed by the Great Barrington, the Institute in their building,
and so Jason's with them, and he was speaking down

(30:10):
to New Orleans and we were talking about how because
of the pressure for from American exporters and Donald Trump's mindset,
Powell signaled, of course, day before yesterday, they're not gonna
they you know, they're keeping rates as they are, and
I worry greatly that to try to stimulate American exports
and of course to try to give some bump to

(30:33):
the economy as Trump comes in, they're going to pursue
even further an inflationary program, which will make everything you
just mentioned even worse when the crash comes sometime this
year or next year.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
I think the crash is going to come this year.
On the dot com bust again, you're the since we
made that forecast, the Nasdak went into correction territory. Yep,
down more than ten percent. The S and P is
just on the fringe of going into correction territory.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
And the Dow's down again today.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Yep. I'm telling you this is I've been at this
for forty five years. I've never seen a time like this.
And what you're saying about Trump saying he wants to
lower the value of the dollar so exports could increase.
And it's not only that what's going to bring down
the value of the dollar. The world has had enough

(31:33):
for the United States to gemony a geopolitical or economic
and the dollar is the top reserve currency that's coming
to an end. And when that, when the dollar goes down,
goal prices go up. It's as simple as that. Now,
let's go back to what's going on again. Trump speaks

(31:54):
out of both sides of his mouth. He's full of crap.
I'll go by the facts as I just write about
what he said about peace. How about this one before
it becomes president? He says, When I become president, I'm
going to force the Federal Reserve to lower interest rates.
Not my language is then what happened in January, the
Federal Reserve kept interest rates where they were. What did

(32:16):
Trump say, Well, they did the right thing by keeping
interest rates where they are. They Wait a minute, fat mouth,
You just said you wanted to lower them. Yeah, I know,
but I speak at both sides of my mouth. So
what happened the other day when fed on Wednesday, when
the Feds say were not going to raise interest rates?
What did Trump say? They got lower interest rates? Hey,
it got sung. You just said a month ago that

(32:39):
it was okay. He keeps going back and forth.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
So it's like his terror for rhetoric. You know. One
of the things that the economist Robert Higgs I brought
up that ratcheting effect. When Higgs released that book Crisis
in leviathen years ago, he talked about one of the
early things I learned from reading his economics stuff from
the Mesas Institute was out during the during the Great Depression,

(33:04):
business people were very reluctant to get back into starting
any business because they didn't know how much they were
going to get hit by that criminal FDR. They didn't
know what the taxes were going to be, so their
investments and things got delayed. There's this uncertainty factor that
is just rampant in the United States. In addition, as
you say, to the absolutely ridiculous military spending and the

(33:28):
way that the United States is meddling in so much
now causing problems for Americans who want to get oil
from the Middle East. It's going to get ridiculous. And
I don't see. Trump seems to be in a mad scramble,
which I applaud to allow the United States to be
able to do exploration and recovery of energy, and that
would be great. But in the meantime, how about you

(33:51):
stop spending all this money and stop going along with
the Republicans and claiming that they're cutting spending when they're not.
Thomas Massey and Ran Paul Appointed it out. The budget increases,
it doesn't decrease. It's insanity.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
And going back to Trump, what did they just do yesterday, Yeah,
with sanctions on Iran to cut back the oil oil income.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
And yet they go after the Hooties because the Hooties
are blocking trade, as they say, originally the Hooties were
only targeting the Israeli shipping the American shipping because it
was a response to the aggression of the Zionist state.
So the very tactics that they derived from other states.
They applied to the Russian economy. You can't do trade

(34:36):
with the Russians. We're going to go after these two
guys from Turkey. Why well, they wanted to buy some
stuff from Russia, so we're going to sanction them. It's
the same thing. They do, the same thing, and yet
the pot calls the kettle plaque. It's insane.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
You know. Going back, you mentioned about FDR, and I'm
gonna talk about gold. My father and may rest in
peace told me the store. Sorry that. He said. You know,
I was dating your mother. They got married in nineteen
thirty four. He said, I go to your grandfather's house.

(35:10):
It was nineteen thirty three and your grandfather was wrapping
up all his gold. He got a load of gold coins.
I said, Pop, what are you doing this for? Your
grandfather said to me, well, President wants our gold, and
I'm a true American and I'm turning in the gold.
And my father said, what do he had to your mind?
Don't do that, he said. Your grandfather started cursing at

(35:32):
me in Italian. You know what you're talking about. FDR
made the people turn in their gold, and they turned
it in for twenty dollars and sixty seven cents an
ounce nineteen thirty three.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Oh, but he was so honest. Just a little while
after that, it was wonderful what he did after that, right.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Right, he increased the price of gold with the Gold
Reserve Act to thirty five dollars an ounce. So they
after we stole it from the people, we raised the
price seventy percent increase. Now I'm gonna fast forward Trump
and Musk spewing out this crap. We're gonna go into

(36:17):
Fort Knox and see what they've gotten there. Hey, they
already know what's in there. What are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Or what exactly exactly?

Speaker 2 (36:27):
So here's a wild card. I believe they're going to
make a big deal about going into Fort Knox and
they're gonna say it's loaded with gold.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
We have more gold than anybody else in the world,
and they're going to pass a Gold Reserve Act and
raise the price of gold so that they can cover
six trillion dollar debt.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Hey, we got the money to cover the debt. We're okay.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
That's very astute. That's a really good theory. That's very interesting.
That would be one way that they could get out
a lot of that debt exactly. I never thought that's brilliant, brilliant, brilliant.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Wow, And that's why we're very bullish on gold. Again.
We don't give financial advice.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Yeah, you know, the Trends Journal.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
And going back, by the way, what you're saying about subscribing,
we're losing subscribers and because we're speaking out against genocide.
This is an email that I got yesterday, unsubscribing. Your
take on Israel conflict is awful. I wrote back, Yes,

(37:49):
you are unsubscribed. The Trends Journal is not a magazine
for evil people who support Israeli genocide. And then I
put the links of all of the Amnesty International, Human Rights,
the International Courted, all the people that are calling a genocide.

(38:11):
So it's not my language.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Good job, good job.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
So that's what's going on. So if you want we're
doing everything again, I just I put my money where
my heart is. I have once occupied piece. We put
out a magazine. There's no magazine in the world. If
anybody could show me one that comes close to the
Trends Journal, let me know nothing. You see it, there's
nothing like it.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
And Gerald, your reports on YouTube are phenomenal. Your segments
on X are phenomenal. I hope people will follow you,
will show them your X feed in just a minute.
Your conversations with Andrew Napolitano phenomenal, just great, great stuff.
And your admiration for the people who truly speak for peace.
As we know Roger Waters, you know, can barely can

(38:54):
barely come close to Germany because they claim that Roger Waters,
in speaking out against fashion and doing portrayals of fascists
in a mocking and you know, in a mocking and
insightful way in some of his stage performances, they claim
that he's promoting fascism. And I think that holding the
line on the truth is so important now, and you're

(39:17):
doing a terrific job at Trends Journal. You just inspired me.
What I think will be really fun would be for
me to get together with my subscription with family members
into little Zoom calls and maybe once a week we
compare notes on different stories that we think are important
in different publications, and we get together and read these
things with each other. I think that that might be

(39:37):
a fun idea, or maybe I'll do it on liberty
conspiracy and just bring up, hey, here's one from Trends Journal.
Here's one from this as a separate thing, because it
I think it's important to promote the work of good people,
like what you're doing. And and Gerald, you know you
reminded me. I definitely wanted to ask you about this
as we see, you know, the sort of sleight of
hand the ledger domain of the Trump administration. Last time

(39:59):
you and I sp I know, we talked a little
bit about your experience in school being hit by the nun,
and I related to you the experience I had being
thrown in the closet by that teacher when I was
in seventh grade. And I actually see that woman now
at the post office, and I've let it go. I
actually almost started to cry one time because I actually

(40:20):
started to talk to this woman and I forgave her
in my heart. And so now I do see her
when we smile, and it's different for me now, but
I remember what that was like, and so I wanted
to get your thoughts a little bit, Gerald, as we
see things like this generational fight from people like my
father who worked for Reagan, trying to dismantle the education department,

(40:43):
the centralization and just the philosophical mindset that everything's got
to be done by the group, negating the ability of
individuals to make their own relationships with each other. Do
you what do you think about this announcement of Trump
dismantling the Department of Education when in fact they haven't
even released the White House Executive Order and they already

(41:07):
said on Forbes I read the piece that said, well,
they're not really dismantling it, they're just going to do
it differently. What do you think about this announcement and
just generally the trend of many of the promises of
the Trump administration.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
Again, I just read to you a bunch of his
going back and forth on them. Hey, listen to me.
I'm gonna end the Ukraine one twenty four hours when
I get elected. It got sungs how many it was
a couple of months.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Now yeah, right, And now he wants their nuclear plan after.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
I got elected. I'm gonna end that war before I
get into office. Again, the guy just talks crap. Yeah,
and it's a crap show. Again, It's not only him,
it's one after another. You mentioned a disgusting Biden administration.
You know, go keep going back. I mean, how here

(42:00):
could or well come up with a better name than
the Patriot Act that robbed us of all that our freedom.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Yeah, and now they're leveraging that sort of rhetoric, and
you and Andrew Neapolitano have spoken about this. They're leveraging
that rhetoric against people on college campuses who simply are
doing what we're doing. And they're using the Alien Enemies Act.
And these fatuous, canard filled people in Washington aren't even
acknowledging the fact that the statute itself says during a

(42:29):
declared war. They haven't done that since World War Two.
It amazes me that they can get away with this stuff.
And I was surprised someone on MSNBC actually brought it
up and said, well, you know, it's supposed to be
during a declared war. That was one of the few
times we've actually seen them note what's actually written down
in a statute that's easily provable, and they do this

(42:49):
all the time. I don't know why the MAGA people
are in this twisted mindset where because their guy is
in there, they think that they should throw all their
support to him.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
I don't why did they go for Hitler. Did they
like Mussolini? Yeah? Yes, but it's the morons that just
follow their leader. Here, this is from July fifteenth, twenty
twenty four. Biden says he considers himself as Zionist. All right,

(43:24):
but your Zionist? You mean this political movement has nothing
to do with religion. Zionism has nothing to do with religion.
He's made up of this guy what hertzel?

Speaker 1 (43:38):
What ye say? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Eighteen nineties. Oh here's the other thing. I'm tired of
hearing this fairy tale. God told Abraham three thousand, five
hundred years ago that this land belongs to the Jewish people. Hey,
what a god got locked short? That's the only person
you ever talked to any time in three thousand, five

(44:05):
hundred years ago. I got to believe this fairy telling yours?

Speaker 1 (44:10):
Yeah, And David brought up the distinction that many of
the strong Christians, not the Zionis Christians, bring up, which
is that there's a difference between political Israel under the
Polis and Israel under the New Testament. And people just
don't want to face this. You've got I'm not gonn't.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Want to believe in anybody. Your religion is your religion,
that's what you believe in. I don't want to believe
anybody's religion. Believe in what you want to believe in,
but don't tell me I have to believe in it.
That's all I say. Yes, do whatever you want to do.
Don't tell me again. I started a church, Universal Church

(44:50):
of Freedom, Peace and Justice. Began it three years ago. Yeah,
so believe in your God, but don't tell me I
have to believe in it. Well, Zerald, And by the way,
they they just there's a whole article that came out
to just sound like another skull of human bones from
like a million and a half years ago. Right, Oh, no, no, no,

(45:15):
everything big don when God told Abraham and get the
hell out of you. Don't want to hear.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
It, Gerald, What I'm curious to think, to speculate, and
I don't want to speculate too far. About first, with Ukraine,
it seems like we just heard the announcement that Trump
is now floating the idea of the United States running
the nuclear plants in Ukraine, which would mean it's just insanity. Uh.

(45:43):
And then if we look at the targeting of Iran
and and pick either one or both, as we offer
you the opportunity to give a final word on on
what you think and you know, maybe it's it's really
too too chaotic to speculate, but not at all offer
your opinion from Clee Talk.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Yeah, I got banned from TikTok for saying that Kiev
is not going to come to any kind of peace
agreement with Russia because Russia is not going to give
back the land that they got. And what they're going
to do is they're gonna escalate this war and they're
going to bomb nuclear power, plant some false flag event

(46:24):
to get support to keep the war going. Go to
your trends journal this week and look at what Europe
is doing, one country after another, the whole NATO spending
more and more money on defense spending. It's right there
for everybody.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Yes, exactly. And the EU now with their five to
ten year plan under Vonderland and those other criminal people
wanting their own military.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Yes, they're ramping up the war because one of my
sayings is when all else fails, they take you to war.
All these economies are failing. Germany, the third largest economy
in the world, is in recession. Oh, they just pass
this big, big bill to spend more money on defense. Well,
you don't bagging. All of Europe is bragging that this

(47:14):
is going to create jobs. Again Regin your magazine, This
is insanity. It's insanity. No, it's not going to create jobs.
What it's going to do is costs more money and
produce nothing. That's that. It's not like you're manufacturing clothing
that people are buying. Now you're manufacturing weapons that nobody's

(47:38):
buying that you're spending money to have. So that's what's
going to go on with that. With the Ukraine war,
they're going to ramp up the war against Iran. Make
this really clear. Ninety one million people in Iran? How
many Jews in Israel about seven million? Wait a minute,
ninety one million against seven million. Oh, Iran Persians very

(48:03):
advanced scientifically, technologically, and militarily.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Oh, the United States is going to get involved in
the war. Hey, haven't won a war since World War Two?
Or you wouldn't win that one about the Russians, I
forgot that. But anyway, can't win the in Vietnam war
you only kill three and a half million. Couldn't win
the Iraq well only kill over a little million there,
couple one hundred thousand over in afghanist Oh, you're going
to beat the Iranians. This is going to be World
War three. Look up the Samson option SAMSN yes, yes,

(48:32):
Israel says if they lose, they go nuclear yep.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
And it amazes me that they're constantly trying to ring
this or blow this dog whistle about Iran developing nuclear weapons,
when Israel is the one that got the nuclear weapons
through clandestine means starting in the nineteen fifties onwards. Iran
has always been open to nuclear inspections. They always show
that they're not refining their fissile material to a point

(48:58):
where they're making bombs. It's for energy production. And the
United States has that country surrounded. And Gerald, I have
to tell you last night when I was listening to
Scott or to uh to Dave DeCamp on the anti
war video that they release every every night at midnight,
essentially that covers a lot of the anti war dot
com stories. Uh, this is the first time. I usually

(49:20):
don't go this far, but I got a sinking feeling
that there's gonna be a false flag that they blame
on Iran. What's that?

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Yeah, they're doing it already. They're blaming Ran for.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Supporting those Yeah, you have good points already.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Coming out and saying he's going to destroy him.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Yeah, yeah, so true. Well look Gerald, we're almost out
of time, but I do want to make sure that
I stress having, you know, filling in for David and
the audience here. I want to thank everyone. I know
there are a number of comments, uh that people have.
So many people that are in here, and this is
very interesting. We've got comments all over X that I

(50:05):
can't even keep track of. There's so many comments inside
Rockvin as well and inside Rumble, and I want to
thank everyone for being there. And I want to just
mention and I'll go through a couple of comments after
we say goodbye, but I want to just mention Gerald
again that people can get the Trend's journal for ten
percent off by putting in the code night. And I

(50:25):
am going to start picking up that habit if I
can get some family members. Every once a week, every
one of us grab one or two little articles that
we think are important are a couple times a week,
and we get together on Zoom and we compare notes
on some of these things, or maybe I do it
on my Liberty Conspiracy show with audience members or something,
because I think it's important to make these connections and

(50:46):
I'll come down and see in Kingston again very very soon. Yeah.
It's a wonderful, wonderful atmosphere you've created, Gerald, and you're
a wonderful guy. And I really appreciate what you do.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
And I really appreciate what you do. I mean the
information you have, knowledge that you have, and what you're doing.
You know, it's a rarity, all right, many cats out
there doing what you're doing. Well, it's so much of
what you are doing and with David and everyone's doing.
And again, we're in a critical time and it's going
to be the end of life on Earth if this

(51:17):
keeps going.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Gerald, I appreciate it so much. You bring the jazz
of life, good Man. You bring the jazz of life.
And I'll be back in touch with you through email
and maybe maybe you can pop in on my Liberty
Conspiracy show some eveting or something like that and we'll
have a great time. We'll talk about Louis Belson on drums.
All right, thank you so much, Gerald, CILENTI Remember everybody
get the Trends Journal. It's mooey mooey fantastic. Gerald. I'll

(51:43):
see in the four Corners. I'll bring your dinner sometime
all right, all right, thanks a lot man, Thanks Gerald,
Gerald Silenti great stuff from Gerald. Take care of Gerald.
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