September 27, 2023 • 51 mins
THE DEBATE - Hockey Podcast – Episode 227 – 20 Questions for 23-24 Season
Host- Brad Burud @BradBurud
Co-Host- Blake Friars @FriarsBlake
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Host- Brad Burud @BradBurud
Co-Host- Blake Friars @FriarsBlake
--- EPISODE 227 ---
20 Questions
AROUND THE NHL: Canucks Trade, Zegras Offer, Stamkos Future, and Kylington MIA
3 Questions
Live Questions | Listener Questions: Which PTO is the most likely to be signed to an NHL contract? Website: THE DEBATE Hockey Podcast
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Social Media – X - @TheDebate | FACEBOOK – THE DEBATE Hockey Podcast | INSTAGRAM - THE DEBATE Hockey Podcast
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(00:20):
Do you mean welcome to another episode? Oh they're big hockey, have the
hops the show? Glad you joinedalongside my christ speech friars, What do
we start about? Hockey? Gamesare going? Preseasons going? Do you
want to start Canucks flames? Ordo you want start I can't comment on
(00:41):
that game. I only watch fourminutes. Oh four four minutes. Why
I honestly I sent you a textthe day before and I said, this
game is going to be a shipshow. The Canucks are only sending two
NHL players. Calgary's dressing their wholetop six or starting Goldie and two were
their top four d So I kindof went exactly how I thought of the
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goal. Yeah, but Calgary's goalsweren't even from their veterans. I mean,
I guess Sea Lofts had a toughI'm pretty sure I could have stopped
more than him. I mean,but you know what I will say this,
I I saw that I saw thecombined total defenseman games played. I
think it was at twenty six atotal gas. Your defense was god awful,
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like it was it was all rookies, like there's not one NHL defenseman
in the lineup. Uh yeah,it was but I they ver be put
on a better lineup tomorrow. Getsat Why would they even? I don't
know. I mean they just wantedto see their kids, I guess.
But like the only nhspers maybe makethat team is whole Glander rath or not
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rath Bone. Maybe no, rathBone will make the team. No,
he won't make the team. ButI mean, I mean Coronado looks pretty
good. I mean you know that, Cubido. Okay, you you were
over exaggerating on your Hearbo goal goalof the year last year. It might
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have been the goal of the yearlast five our scene one maybe the goal
of the year for him. Hedidn't have many has named me how many
highlights did the Flames have last year? I'm not many. It's not many,
So I don't think I'm over exaggerating. I mean, they didn't the
goal of the year for the Flames. That's what he meant. Okay,
Well he didn't word it that way. He meant go. He said goal
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of the year like a total inthe league. No, I never said
total of words that year. Isaid goal of the years. I said
hashtag flames. My god, howmuch more I gotta spell it? Out
X will be like to clarify Blake, Okay, I'll just checking. I
want to talk about Taylor Swift andher boyfriend like everybody else is doing.
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God, they're not officially dating aswe can't put that label on it.
Why do we just hair you're justhanging out? So why do we say
this? Day? Don't be makingfun of the Swifties? But but why?
Why does? Why is this?They're a very powerful group. They're
very powerful. I'm sure almost NHLfans. I'm sure they're I'm not.
I'm not like a diehard Swifty,but I do like her music. I
(03:23):
like her music old Taylor Shift,country, country Taylor Swift. So what
are your thoughts on this Australia games? I mean they were on at what
like midnight, eleven at night?Yeah, yeah, So I caught half
of the second game or first game. Maybe I think it was a shootout
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or something. Maybe that was asecond game. So what's it just me?
Or was it looks it looked likea really cool atmosphere like it looked
it looked awesome. It looked likeit looked like how do I explain this?
It kind of had like the likea soccer atmosphere to it kind of
why I don't mind that. Whydid it seem like half of the arena
(04:09):
was just freaking dark? The lightingmust have been real that the lighting was
pretty bad in there. Look butbut like when they showed the crowd like
they were into it, it waspacked both games like it was. It
was. I think it was agay success for the NHL to go sick.
What for what, We're a hundredyears into this league and we're trying
to grow it. Come on,yeah, I understand that part, but
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one hundred years. We haven't grownthe game in a hundred years. And
all of a sudden and year onehundred and twelve, we're gonna get a
one hundred and four. We're gonnaget somebody be like, you don't want
to really like this hockey? Yeah, well it's for the younger generation,
that's what it's four. Because you'restarting to see younger, younger kids not
play hockey anymore. You're starting tosee that already in small towns in Canada,
(04:53):
there's nobody wants to play hockey anymore. But I go to every sport,
but it's not listening. It's everysport, it's every scape. But
when I listen though. When Iwas growing up, we had initiation novice
adam peewee, bantam and amidgee teamand being faked a town of seven hundred
people, we had six teams.Now there's only one. Nobody wants to
play hockey. Nobody's playing sports ingeneral anymore. It's just it's just the
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reality. You know. They'd rathersit at home, not like they'd rather
sit at home playing their video games. They would. When we were kids,
man, we were playing street hockeytill the street light came on and
that was it. That's just whatwe did now, only that you don't
see any street dockey outside. It'sdifferent generations, Blake. You know.
You know another reason I think thatkids aren't playing sports because psychotic dads.
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Well yeah, but psychotic dads,Yeah, the parents can sometimes ruin the
experience for the kids for sure.Yeah, it's not fun anymore. I
mean, they don't get to gohave fun anymore. They're gonna be the
thing. The thing about the kidsis, man Like, nowadays you're on
the ice like five six times aweek. Man. When I was a
kid, it was practiced Tuesday,practice Thursday, and played games in the
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weekend. That's all. Ye,you don't need to be playing practicing at
six am Monday to Friday. That'sjust like you're you're just gonna burn a
kid out day. He's just notgonna love the game anymore. My kids
final year of bantam or peewee's peewees, he had he practiced Monday night,
Tuesday night, Wednesday morning, Wednesdaynight, Thursday night games, Friday,
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Saturday, and Sunday. It's stupid. Yeah, like you're burnt out.
You're burnt out, Like, howdo you expect of energy for a game?
It's ridiculous. What do you Whatdo you think of the Minnesota Wilds
new third jersey? They should bemaking those those should be like, I
mean, it's it's one of thebest color combos in the league. It's
the same thing with Vancouver. Theyshould be making this gate jusy their permanent
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jersey is just the way it is. Yeah, but sound like I've always
liked it. Sends finally gets soldfor nine hundred and fifty million dollars,
wasn't it. Yeah nine hundred andfifty million right? Yeah? Crazy crazy?
Uh Yeah, they were worth likewhat like seven hundred something and they
almost sold for a billion. It'slike, holy, I know it's crazy.
(07:06):
All right, we got a busy, busy, busy episode. Twenty
questions. I fire twenty questions aboutthis year's NHL season at Blake. He
has no ideas. Have to beone word answers, maybe explain, No,
we gotta explain them, we gottaexplain. But twenty questions. He
has no idea what the questions are. And then we'll go around the NHL,
(07:27):
talk a little bit about the Canuckstrade, Zegers offer stamkoses future and
Chillington missing in action in Calgary.Alright, favorite things we do every single
year. I like this episode.This is an episode, right. I
(07:49):
don't have to prep anything. Ijust gotta sit back and listen. Okay,
are you ready? Question number one, let's go, let's do it.
How many points will Connor McDavid recordand twenty three? Twenty four?
Uh? Okay, wait a second. You can't do that after every question.
Nobody wants to hear that. Youcan't go off for thirty seconds after
(08:09):
I ask every question one hundred andseventy two. No way yet last year,
there's no way, he guess scoresthat. No way, no way,
no way, that's only what likeone point three points a game?
(08:31):
Well, eighty two, Well,what's eighty two divided by one seventy one.
I'm gonna get my calculator going eightytwo divided by one seven, it's
over two points a game. Okay, that's not it's a little crazy.
That's a little crazy. I'd say, Okay, I'll go. I'll go
one hundred and fifty five. Iwas gonna say one hundred and eight,
(08:56):
one hundred and eighty. No,he'd be way over one hundred eight.
So you're betting on him being onehundred percent healthy again all year. He's
gonna have three healthy seasons in arow. He still had one. He's
out of his eight seasons, heonly has had one two two. He
was a cod won COVID year.No, but he had time off during
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two seasons though. I mean multiplethings. So I don't know a guy
that skates that fast goes that harderthe net. I don't know. Oh,
you can get one hundred and fifty. I'll go one hundred and fifty
points. Question number two, whowill be the rookie point leader? A
bard I'm gonna I'm gonna reveal mysixty eight points, sixty eight points.
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I'm gonna reveal mine next week.He's gonna have sixty eight points, okay
the next I'm not gonna go crazyand say he's gonna get like ninety.
He's just not realistic. The nexttwo questions. The next two questions deal
with fantasy hockey, and I knowyou play fantasy hockey. So number three,
I want to know who your sleeperpick is. I was gonna be
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one of my questions. Do youactually is one? I beat you to
it, Tyler BERTUZI I don't mindthat at all, to be honest with
you, He's gonna be playing withAustin Matthews and Mitch Marner, and I
love the way he plays. He'sgonna get so many points. I love
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the way he plays. He's gonnaget so much points. All right,
Well, number four is gonna bewho's the bust? Pick a bus bus
bust? Danny Maulkin. Why doyou say that he's just been injured the
last three years? I know,But do you think a lot of fancy
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guys are putting a lot of stockin him this year? Mm? Probably
not, but I mean still aname. How about J. T.
Miller Okay, what do you meanyou're trying to bait me? Now,
I'm not following for your shit.Why guy's gonna play in one of the
best power plays in the league thisyear? What are we saying? I
(11:11):
will bet you money the Canucks powerplay doesn't it doesn't land in the top
ten. It's been the top tenthe last three years, So how can
you say that. I'm going toThey have one of the best power play
quarterbacks, they have two of thebest fucking half wall guys. Come on,
what are you saying? Come on, you want to bet on that?
You want to make a bet onthat that Vancouver has a top ten
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power play this year. We'll comeup with something. Okay, I still
think you owe me a jersey fromlike seven years ago. There's a couple
of things I know you owe me, So all right. Question number five?
Who record more points this year?Nathan McKinnon, Matthew Kachuck or Kutrov
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uh Kachuck? Really yeah, Ithink he's going to record the least of
the three good I'm not saying he'snot good, but Canucks are Canucks.
Kitchuck is more than just a pointguy though, Like that's not even what
he was really knowing for his points? What do you mean last years he's
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had over one hundred and ten.Yeah, he's had two good, really
good years. But can he continuethat? I don't know, I mean
with his style, can he continuethat? I well, there's no there
ain't no doubtam until he doesn't doit. Okay, I think Nathan McKinnon
will have him more points. It'shere, that's fair. I don't see.
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I don't know. Question number six, which NHL player will have a
breakout season this year and will makehimself a household name in the league.
M I know, this is atough one. I had to really think
about this one, and I'm noteven sure what I would answer this one.
I really don't I don't know whatI would answer this one. I'm
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trying to think, like off thetop of my head. That's the only
bad thing about this because I don'tknow the questions. Well, that's the
fun part of it, right,you know how. I think it's gonna
have a really good year, buthe's already like a household name. I
think Taylor Hall is gonna have areally good year. Yeah, that would
be. That would be. Idon't want to say that. I don't
like. I don't think that breakup. He's won a Hart Trophy,
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but I think he's gonna have agood year. Yeah, that might be
a sleeper pick. Yeah, youknow. Yeah. Number seven, who
will have a bounce back season?Balanced back season. I'm trying to think
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of who had a bad year lastyear? Austin Matthews. Yeah, well,
I mean he answer, that's agood answer. Maybe like a guy
like Logan Couture or something. Idon't know. I'm thinking like a Jacob
Marks from Mark Shrom that's another goodone. He had a really bad year.
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But he's been like the last fouryears, he's his even years have
been good, his odd years havebeen bad. Yeah, that's just the
way it's been every other year.It's like flip flops. His last year
in Vancouver was good, and thenstruggled his first year in Calgary, and
then last year at two years agohe had ten shoutouts. Last year it
was bad. It was a question. Number eight, what teams are you
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most excited to watch this year?The Buffalo Sabers, I would agree,
New Jersey Devils. No, Iwould disagree you Edmonton Oilers. Yeah,
they'll be a fun team to watch. La Kings I was fun me and
you were definitely on the King's Bandwigan. I think the Arizona Coyotes might be
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surprisingly will I said, we saidthat two weeks ago. They're they're gonna
be a good team, Like they'renot gonna make the playoffs, but like
be a good team. I thinkCarolina is going to be a fun team
to watch this here. Well,they're always a fun team. It'd be
very interesting to see what Pittsburgh doesthis year. Yeah, you know what,
I'm also interested to see a Detroittoo. I don't know, we've
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we've been waiting for them to come. They haven't game. I don't either
have been the buffal. They're turninginto a buffalo. But it makes me
wonder though, doesn't it make youwonder a little bit where where that's gonna
go? Yeah? I don't know. Question number nine, who will be
the first coach fired? I'm gonnastick with the same answer I had last
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year. T J. Smith couldbe why do I feel like like,
why do I feel like there's goingto be less coaches fired this year?
Wow? I mean there usually isn'tEddie coaches fired to a while like American
Thanksgiving. Oh, we can't gowith the one that's already been fired.
I don't think can we? Doesthis one cock? He didn't even get
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a game? Does that count?I mean, I don't think that counts?
Does Hey? He didn't even geta game. Did you see his
top ten in wins was zero?I'm interested to see what happens in Toronto
if a slow start happens there.They just gave a two year deal.
I don't think they care in Toronto. I really don't think they care.
I really don't like it. Isliterally make hay or be done this year?
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What a Mike Sullivan's and Mike Sullivan'sI got to keep an eye on
if they get off to a slowstart. Woodcroft, is he on the
hot seat a little bit? Imean, how many more? How many
more seasons does he get? He'sonly had two, not even two,
he's had three. I believe hesaid, didn't he take over this third
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year? This is his third year? So this last year was his first
full year? No no, no, no, no no no no no
no was last year was his firstfull year he took over. He took
over when I was in Salmon armDude, that's that was two years ago.
This is this, this is thissecond full season, So I mean,
how many how many more kicks ofthe candidate Edmonton? Now? I
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mean, I mean, I don'tknow. It's like so things if they
get off to a rough start,is he on whoever won that Vegas Edmonton
series is winning the cup? That'sjust the way it was. And they
lost in Vegas won like that's that'sjust tough slide. And I guess,
I mean, I mean, Ithink he's got a pretty secure job.
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The only way he gets fired isit like they got swept in the first
round or something. What if theymissed the playoffs, which which I think
highly doubtful, high doubl No,what player are you most excited to watch
this season? A lot? Imean the easy answers Bedard. I mean,
that's something you're gonna laugh when youhear mine. You're gonna laugh when
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you hear mine. You shouldn't.You won't laugh. You'd be like,
oh, honestly, like I enjoywatching all the guys that grew up like
the old the old guys like Crosby'sand all of Vetchkins, and like I'm
so attached to those that older corebecause I grew up with them, so
like the younger guys. That's moreabout the younger generation guys like obviously like
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Patterson, Like I like those guys, but like, I don't know,
I like I like watching Crosby.Super excited to watch Tim Stutslo this year.
I just I love watching him play. He's one of my favorites to
watch. Yeah, now he's agood player. Question number eleven, the
chase continues. How many goals willa Vetchkins score this season? Do you
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want to answer that? Because yousaid he's not gonna break it like four
years ago, not only you will. I think he scores thirty two this
year. Well, Vetchkanes is gonnascore forty. Okay, I say thirty
two. Well, Vetchkin is gonnahave a fifty goal season, one more
left in him. Oh that's abold prediction, bold take, buddy,
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Yeah, bold should save that fornext week. Maybe it's happening this year.
You should say shoot next week onthe debate predictions. Yeah, well
no, next week's now predictions itis. It's ten crazy predictions next week,
and that would be I don't thinkthat's crazy, that's not crazy.
Yeah, that's crazy, all right. Question number twelve, how many players
will be suspended when Team Canada scandalis finally announced and when will it be
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announced? Or is Canada Hockey justgonna shuffle this under the rug? Well
they can't. Nobody's nobody's with HockeyCanada. That was a part of that.
So there's no way they could sweepit under the rug. Why is
it taking so long because they gotall new people in there, They're trying
to do this instigation properly and theycould take as much time as they want.
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Is if they get it right andit takes him another year, it
is what it is like. Theycan't get this wrong, dude. They
there's too many people involved and toomany big names in the NHL that were
on that team. Like if itcomes out that it was like a Carter
Hart, I'd be so. Iwould. I would lay down large amount
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of money that his name is onit, because like I will lay down
a large fired his psychologist coach hislast two years in the league. That's
just been a spiral since this cameout in the press. He's been dogshit.
I don't know, I don't Idon't want to, I don't want
to make allegations. I'm not makingallegations. I'm just saying I'd put money
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on it. Yeah, see,we'll see. I hope I'm wrong.
But you know what, they've alreadylike greased the wheel that it's NHL players.
Oh yeah, and it's so,what do you think happens? What
do you think happens? What canthey do? What the league? The
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league can spend as much as theywant in ten games. I don't know.
I don't know. I don't knowwhat they did in game. I
don't know what they did. Theyraped the girl? Okay, well,
then you know what will happen?Then criminal chargers will be no, no
criminal. You can't kick them outthe league because then you got to kick
everybody that does something criminal for ayear. Then they're gonna go to jail.
If that's rape. You won't haveto do anything as a league,
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right, I guess, because theywon't be available to play. You leave
it up to the legal at first, because if you set a precedent and
you determine their guilt and you suspendthem, then you have not trusting the
NHL players safety because they don't doa dick all. Well, they don't
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because the NHLPA is the one whodictates what happens. It's kind of like
the NFL, like you those isthere with dostic violence that's unreal and nothing
happens, right, Yeah, majorLeague Baseball's similar, maybe a little bit.
Major League Baseball cracks eighty game suspension. They do correct way more the
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first time. It's eighty games.NFL, like, I get it's like
a smaller season, but like fourgames, Like what is that? I
know, it's it's embarrassing. Honestly, it should be more of the NFL
because there's less games. Yeah,you're right, you're right, like you
should get eight games and it's andit's and it seems to happen more frequently
in the NFL, like DeShawn Wattson, like we got like a slap on
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the wrist. Yeah, yeah,it's too bad. I'm just curious to
see when this finally does come out. But all right, question number thirteen,
does Shane Wright in Seattle prove thathe is for real? Or does
he prove he is a bust thisseason? Wall For Seattle's sake, he
better figure it out, because Imean, he had a good year in
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the HL. He just just nevertranslated. I mean like that's that's a
thing, like it's a huge,huge step HL NHL. Did you did
you say he was generational? ThoughI did not go back in the tapes,
go back in the tapes. Ihad a na say I'm sorry,
I slipped my memory. That waslaffing year that you said was you said
that that was not me? Yousaid was not me. You're trying to
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tell me that Tyler Myers is agood signing for us to you'll happen with
that. You said that you hadtoo much snaps and you're Tim Horton's that
night. God, Oh, here'sa really good question. Here's a really
really good question. What is thebest division in hockey? Oh it's Atlantic
Division. That's not That's an easyone. Okay, you're gonna have I'm
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not gonna argue. You're gonna haveyou're gonna have Tampa Bay, you're gonna
have Boston, you're gonna have Florida, you're gonna have Toronto. You got
up and coming Buffalo team, yougot up and coming Detroit team, you
got Ottawa in the mix. That'sthe best division. I signed close.
Okay, So where does a Pacificit in it's probably one of the worst,
probably bottom two. See, Idon't think so anymore. I look
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at the Mate or the Metro.Okay, you got what three really good
teams in the Metro and some mediocreand not good teams. Okay, you
got three. It's the same.It's the same in the Pacific. Yep,
three good teams and two mediocre andtwo really bad. I don't no.
I think one of the mediocres thisyear is going to really step up,
whether that be Vancouver, or whetherthat be Vancouver or Calgary or Seattle,
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one of those is really kind ofsurprise. I do believe too.
I do believe that. I thinkSeattle is going to take a step back.
But I too, I do too. If I to put money in
the beat my step back. Yeah. Question number fifteen, who is the
best goalie in hockey currently? Eliasare Okin? Do you like him better
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than Shusterkin? Yeah? I do, I do too. I like sir,
I like I like Stroking a lot. He's uh, he plays on
conventional game like he just because he'sa different style. He's just like kindie.
He you know, he reminds meof is of getting in the back
off. Yeah, but better likea better version the back off was a
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great goalie for a lot of years. Like he just played that like hybrid
kind of stand up like he justI don't know that eighty bill four style.
Yeah, the kind of the Ilike a butter a butterfly, but
was super versatile and and my mytop three probably be saroking vassy. It's
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just striking probably right now. Yeah, that's what I would go, all
right, Number sixteen, what playeron a new NHL team this season will
have the biggest impact. I'll stickwith my Tyler PERTUZI answer. And that's
you know what, when I wrotethis question, that was the guy that
had in my mind, I'm like, oh, yes, it's gonna be.
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I mean, he's gonna get firstpower play unity. They're gonna move
they move knee Lander back to center, which is kind of interesting. I
mean, do you think that's agood decision. I mean, look at
look at how look at the teamsthat Toronto was lost to in the playoffs.
How do they lose It's three centersdown the middle. Now you got
Matthews, Tamars, knee Lander downthe middle. That maybe maybe that's maybe
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that's the road to go. Idon't know if you can play, if
you can find a good look alook at look at look at stamp Coast
points Sorelli down the middle. That'syea, but that's how you win.
You win down the middle. Yeah, so I see there. I see
their logic in a move like that. But too, I just it makes
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sense. You can always put themback to the wing. You can't put
a you can't put a winger andmake him a center. But you can
always put a center on the wing. It's it's pretty easy. Yeah.
Number seventeen, what excuse me?Will Patrick Kane play in the NHL this
season? And if so, withHua he will play? I think he's
gonna sign uh with the Buffalo Sabershometown kid. I don't I really going
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back home. I don't think that'llhappen. What do you think? I
don't he loves the cab drivers overthere. Yeah, I gotta feeling they
love him too. He might haveburned enough bridges in that town. I
don't know. We'll see us.Your number eighteen, what player will have
the largest season of regression from lastyear? Can I say Jonathan Huberto?
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I'm skidding. I have been acorrect as last year. Uh boy,
you're gonna freak when you when youhear who, I say, who wouldn't
know who had a really outstanding year? Oh I know this, I can
get like all those points. YeahI do. I do. When I
when I say who, I think, you're gonna be like, oh,
(28:10):
hell, yeah, you're right,go to Vegas. Okay, who is
it? Eric Carlson? No wayin hell that's an easy one. No
way in hell he does that.He is playing better, he is playing
with better players. Though it's notgonna happen again. You do else.
I really think has a chance thoughthat I think has a chance for a
big regression. And I hope notbecause I like watching him, but David
(28:33):
Pasternick, I don't know. Iswith the way things are in Boston this
year. I I mean, I'mnot talking like a hubert O drop,
but it could be a substantial drop. Fifty goals last year, one hundred
and thirteen points. Like I couldsee him back at it, like eighty
eight eighty nine point of game,Yeah I could. I really could see
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that. Yeah, I mean that'snot a bad season though, not at
all. But that's still a bigregression, right, Yeah, you know
it's not quite humid. I'll goon one hundred and fifteen to sixty five,
fifty five fifty five, get itright, fifty five. That's gotta
be the worst point chop in theleague. No, all time most,
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No, actually all time. Yeah. You remember when I asked you a
month of this season if you're worriedabout I'm still not. I am,
honestly I'm still not. Oh,eight year deal kicks in this year,
buddy, not worried. Okay,well, I'll get a Paul check on.
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Yeah, he'll have eighty two pointsstand the season. Okay, that's
right. We'll see about that question. Number nineteen is Elias Lindholm and Michael
Kneelander still Flames and Leafs players attrade deadline. Michael Kneelander, who's William
Lander? He's diving back to mypast. I think Lindholm signs an extension.
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I think they're gonna overpay to keephim, and I think ni Lander
walks for nothing. Really, yeah, you think he's just gonna chase money.
He's it's he's so the players tenmil. Oh, they can't give
him ten mils. Not a chance. You can give him ten mil.
No, but the Flames you mighthave no choice to give litt home ten
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milk. You can't. No,no, no, they won't. They
let him walk for that. Theywon't. Okay, I gonna let your
number one center who's twenty eight walkfor nothing if he wants that much.
He's not a game changer. Calgary'soffering him nine mill and he out he
asked for ten. Just give himthe ten milis. No, you don't
do that. That's how you getyourself, that's that's the Canucks way of
doing things. Okay, but dude, you're in a market where like you're
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gonna have to overpay players to stayin Canada. That's how it always is.
You give him he has been.Nobody else is gonna give him now.
Is he gonna be a number onecenter? You're gonna go into a
full rebuild? No, god,no, we have a ton of good
players. Okay, but name meone good Name me a team with good
players, a ton of good players. It doesn't have a number one center.
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That's a good team. Name meone team that. That's still not
a license to overpay. It's stillnot a license to overpay. You offer
Johnny Lennholm is worth more money thanJohnny control. Is that crazy to say?
Am I absolutely taking crazy pills forthat? I think you're crazy on
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that. Yeah, and I'm anumber one center. He's a better defensive
player defense, absolutely, But I'msorry. I hate to say this though,
Blake, We're not We're living ina league, and I play.
I would pay for intangibles because Ithink that's really important. But you don't
mean Okay, don't sure you can. You can let him walk and spread
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out that money all you want,but you still don't win without a number
one center. It's just playing.So I don't know that you win with
him. I'm just saying that.I mean, I think you don't.
You don't go over nine five Well, okay, so you're gonna let him
walk over five hundred thousand? Really, yeah, I mean it is.
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If you're gonna let let him walkfor nothing, you're basically telling your fan
base that we're going into it.You're not going into a rebuild. You
can't. There's rebuilds or a thingof the past nowadays when you have guys
whatever you want to, So you'regoing into a retool. Okay, you
can't overpay for eight years. Youcan't. You can't tie yourself to offense.
If it's what if it's ten yearsor sorry, what if it's uh,
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what if it's six years sixty mil? No, six years or five
years six or five years fifty?No, six years. No, I'm
not going mill a year, notdoing that. I don't want to know.
Well, he's worth nine to tenmill. It's just what that's what
guys are getting at this rate.We'll see, we'll see, we'll see,
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like how much how much is Pettersare gonna get? We're actually no,
we're not going down that road becausethe media is pissing me off already
about it. It's gonna be alot more than than Lin will get.
He's gonna get eleven mill, probablyprobably more. Yeah, and I give
him a blank check because they haveno choice. Question number twenty Is anything
short of a Stanley Cup of failurefor the Edmonton Oilers or the Toronto Maple
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Leafs. No, it's it's wellfor the Leafs. For the Leafs.
No, because the Oilers have goneto the conference final twice in the last
four years, so they they've beenthey've been closer to getting over that hump.
Yeah, but how just won theirfirst round in eighteen years, they're
running out of time going the coreis definitely running out of time. But
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for the Oilers, it's for sure, copper Bost that has to be like,
the Oilers are banking on Skinner toto grow and develop more, and
you gotta expect Campbell and have abalance back here like you. You have
to expect that. Right, We'llsee Campbell's gonna start game one for them.
I know he should. He's gonnastart. He's gonna start game one.
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That you paid him five million dollarsto be your starting goalie. He's
they're gonna give him every what ifhe allows five, then I'm saying there's
as good a chance he does ashe doesn't. Well, they play the
Canucks and they last year, Wellthere was three goals on nine shots and
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then the Canucks blew the game andlost five three. So you're telling me
to bet the over that night becauseit'll probably be nine to five. Yeah,
probably with the way the Canucks defenseis, it'll be nine for Edmond
and stop train wreck. Just guysjust turning wrong ways and holy god,
it's train wreck. It's a trainwreck. We're gonna talk about that next
week. So all right, timeto go around the National Hockey League.
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All right, Vancouver canucksons to thistopic was the night and they had a
trade this week as Vancouver acquired Caseyto Smith from Montreal for Tanner Pearson and
a third round pick in twenty twentyfive. Talk to me, Yeah,
it's a it's a it's a winwin for both teams. I mean,
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it's a Tanner Pierson had a frustratingyear last year. He had like seven
hand surgeries and got him totally screwedover by the Vancouver Canucks. It was
a ship show from the star withhim for so good on Vancouver for getting
him a fresh start and having achance to play a role with another team
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because he probably was going to beput on waivers or sent down to the
HL in Vancouver. So they theydo Tann Pearson right after kind of screwed
him over last year, and Vancouvergets back a service, serviceable backup that
they haven't had and since they've hadEuros off a lock. And what happens
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to Spencer Martin. With Spencer Martin, I don't even know what. They
have seven goalies under contract right now, seven so like it's they just brought
in that Sauceanco this summer like theyyou're ten, they be in the HL
is gonna be It's gonna be Demkosto Smith and then the HL you're gonna
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have Spencer Martin. You're gonna haveArcher c Lows. They were talking time
old, time old. They weretalking today on Daily Faceoff and it doesn't
sell like Spencer Martin. They likethat. Vancouver wants him down there,
they want well they while they weretalking about happen a third goalie with Vancouver
like to like to practice and stuff. So then they're gonna have to roster
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him then, huh So, Idon't know what they're gonna do. Like
it's the biggest thing with Vancouver wasthat Demco has been hurt the last two
years and they didn't have anybody,didn't have a service back up to back
up. So if Heaven forbid,Demko does get hurt, dismiss a capable
guy to come in and play playand give you a chance to win.
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Right, they haven't had that ina long time, haven't had it in
a while, So that does itsuck giving up a third round pick for
matre All to eat salary? Sure, but I mean that's just the cost
of not mature all helping all Vancouverbecause they would have been over the cap.
So that's the priced eat two anda half million bucks. And I
think it's a good it's a goodtrade for both teams. So you think
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the dilemma in Calgary on Lindholm isup against the wall. How about Zegras
in Anaheim? As the Ducks havesixteen point six million in cap space,
twenty two players under contract for theupcoming season, and they offer Pat Verbeek
offers them a low ball deal.It was reported that they offered him a
three to four million dollar deal.Okay, they can do that. He's
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an RFA. Then Holme's at ufatotally different situation. I'm not comparing,
and Blake, I'm not. Youcan play hardball with r face. I'm
not complaining. It's the worst casein there. They're gonna get out there
Montreal. Montreal is gonna help outCaroline and Offsheetah, and that it's done
for you. No, here's thedeal, here's what it's gonna do.
It's gonna piss Zegers off and he'sgonna play out one more year and tell
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you to kick rocks. Maybe that'swhat it's gonna do. You can play
it, you go, you youThey always play hardball with RFA, it's
been yeah, but you can't playhardball to that point. Yeah, that's
an insult. That's an insult.Not the hardball is different than an insult.
Much Ze is worth six, Yeah, that's a far cry from three.
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So if they said four and ahalf or five, I could say,
okay, you're in the range thenright, and me in the I
don't think he's worth like eight ninemile. I don't either. I don't
either, but he's worth more thanWould you give him more than four to
come to Vancouver? Yeah? Igive him probably six? There you go,
there you go. So then offerhim five. Play hardball with him
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there. Don't don't offer him threeand insult him because now he's gonna be
like packer bags. Honey, afterthis season's over, we'ren staying here.
They don't have my back. Yeah, that's what I would do. Dat.
He's dating all Dixie Demilio too.He saw that. You know,
you probably don't know who that is. I don't have any idea who that
isn't I don't even very you're veryold. I think I want to know
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who that is, Shane Pinto dealsstill not happening. I know Ottawa is
looking to trade someone to free capspace up to sign him to an appropriate
contract. Let me let me lookhere, let me look at it.
I was just I was gonna lookat that today. Look at what they're
their contracts. I'm just their contractlike their cap space. Who they who
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they could trade like? Well,I well, you would that prime the
guy. You would try to tradehis Zuba. But no one's taken that.
I mean, there's not beyond thisroster that I would trade. Maybe
Matt Joseph two point nine, DominicanKuba Leaks two point five? Who's taking
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now at six and a half?Oh, who's taking Kuba Leak? I
don't afford to take. I loveall these contracts like Stutzel at eight three,
you got kit Shock for another five. At eight two, you got
bathroost In for another four. Atfour point nine, you got Shabbat at
eight mil for the next eight yearsI'm sorry, more years at four six.
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I think he's an integral part ofthis Ottawa senator's future. I do,
I really do the old I'll thinkont Josh Norris at seven nine two
what a deal that is. Well, we'll see he's been hurt though,
we'll see. I love their goaltown. I like Automa on paper,
like they're back in as young.They're back in as young. You got
but our doger, you got Sanderson, you got brand strip checker, and
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you got Shabbat. I like CorpusSalo. I like the addition of Corpus
Salo. But they're in the bestdivision of league. So we'll see it
happens. Be interesting. Uh,Stephen stamp Coos got brushed off by the
Tampa Bay Lightning this week, anduh, there's an underlying belief for all
Damn Tampa wouldn't be crushed if Stampcosleft. Yeah you sah, you just
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don't piss people like that off likethat guy's Uh, it surprised me,
it really did. I can't imaginehim in another uniform like he's been that.
I don't want to imagine him inanother unif. It's like it's like
Jonathan tays like, I do notwant to see that guy play for another
I don't either. I want himto just retire. So it's like like
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guys like that like that that that'sthe generation I'm talking about. The Crosby's,
the stamp Coast is the tas Likeall those guys have played their whole
career for one team and just beenloyalist shit and that's how they get treated.
Oh, I'm with you, I'mwith you. It's tough. This
crazy situation in Calgary. Oliver Chillingtonwas originally supposed to be playing this year,
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reported it all, everything was good, everything was taken care of that
caused him to lose last year's season. Reports the training camp and doesn't make
it out of medical clearance. Lotsof speculation, lots of thoughts. I
have no idea, but at thispoint I think you cut ties and get
your cap space back right. Well, how much is he making to something?
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They sent him to a two yeardeal and they haven't been able to
use them once. What's the issue? Like he stated, personal reasons.
I don't understand why everything's so topsecret anymore. I don't understand. I
could see it being top secret fora year, and if you don't get
your stuff figured out, then it'shard to be top secret anymore. But
I guess we'll see what happens there. But you know what, it is,
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time to fast forward into three questions. It's time for three questions,
like it's your turn this week,fire three at me. What was your
honest thoughts on the heritage classic jerseys. I don't mind the flames one.
I know I have some flames.Fans are friends some flames friends that absolutely
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hate it. I don't hate it. I don't know that I love it.
I think Edmonton's is god awful.Mentons is different for sure. Well
it's the brown pants and stuff lookbad. I don't I don't think it's
awful. It's different. The jersey, though, is not. Jerseys would
be so much better if they hadout yellow stripe at the bottom of their
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jerseys. Yeah, that's all it'smissing. That's all it's missing is a
yellow stripe. But at the bottomand on the arms. It's all.
If it has a yellow stripe onthe bottom and on the arms, it's
ten out ten. Yeah. Butthat logo, like there's rare, there's
there's yellow in the logo, Likewhy did you not have yellow on the
arms and on the bottom. Ilike the red helmets with the white jerseys.
I like that. I the oildrop is got awful though in Edmonton.
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That's awful. Yeah, that's itcould have been a lot better.
I mean, the heritage ones alwaysusually suck. Okay, well, it
sinks you stole one of my questions. I don't want to ask you.
So, who's your biggest sleeper thisyear? If you have another guy,
I've I penciled Bertusia as in abig as a big one. Uh I,
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I don't know. That's that's oneguy that really stood out to me.
I guess I don't even I can'teven think of a another one right
off the top of my head.Yeah, I'm going Bertusi too. That's
what I'm going with. What wouldyou do if you were Kevin chevel day
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off with the Winnipeg Jets and thesituation with Connor Hellabuck and Mark Shiflely two
pending UFA's give him my offer,and if they said no, I would
trade him. Really, what choicedo you have? I think you have
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there? I think there is nochoice. You give him your you ride
out this season, You ride outthe season and lose him for nothing.
I mean, what you're you justtraded Dubois for Well, okay, I'll
look at it this way. Youjust trade Dubois for a pile of stuff.
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Good players you should. You shouldbe doing the same, sure if
you can, but you gotta tradehim a deal. I would trade Hallabuck
and I would trade Shifely. Nobodymay sound crazy. That may sound crazy.
It might be the best thing forthe Jets, especially Shifly. And
the thing I don't think your returnwould be. You would get a lot
for Shifly, a lot, alot. He's twenty eight years old,
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dus in the prime of his career. So maybe you trade maybe maybe maybe
Calgary let and you keep Hellabuck.Maybe Calgary let's Lindolm walk and they signed
Shifly. I would rather have Lyndelthan Schifly. I don't know. I'd
rather woman. I don't know.You would excuse me, I don't know.
I don't mind Shifle. Answer thatwith a straight face, please,
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I would I don't. I wouldnot mind if Schifley was on the on
my favorite team. Yeah, butwould would you trade? Would you take
Lindholm right now and trade one onefor Shifle? You are not doing that
trade. You are lying to meright now. You're lying to me.
Think about it. It's dude,it's it's it's not even a question.
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Lindholm is a way better player.I don't know, Okay, I think
I think, honestly, I thinkShifle's gone, and I think Connor Hellibuckle
resigns, and I know that Iam way out of I know I'm way
out of the majority who feel thatway. I'm way out of the majority
who feel that way. But Ijust my God tells me. I think
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the league has taken an approach wherethey're not gonna pay goalies crazy amounts anymore.
And I think Winnipeg is probably theonly team that will give him a
crazy amount. Like what did Ijust say ten minutes ago? Canadian markets
are gonna have to overplay to keepplayers. It's just what it is.
Vancouver had a over tape Overpaide atMoller a little bit right, the Overpaide
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Tyler Meyers too. That was thatquestion? Two or three? Three?
That was three? Okay? Listenerquestion, are you ready for this?
Yeah? Which PTO is most likelyto sign an NHL contract? Is it?
Josh Bailey? Give me a list, Please give him to listen to
(47:55):
me. Josh Bailey and Ottawa,Brandon Sutter and Edmonton, Nick Ritchy and
Single, Louis uh Danton Heinen inBoston Zach Cassian and Anaheim Austin Watson and
Tampa Bay, Colin White in Pittsburgh, Sam Ghani and Edmonton, Zack Aston
Reese and Carolina, Joel Kivonta inuh Colorado. I think Zach Aston Reese
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is gonna play a perfect style forCarolina. No, I don't know if
they have a room though. ButJosh Bailey, Who's who is the first
two? They said, Josh Bailey? And who Brandon Sutter in Edmonton he
doesn't get signed, I don't think. Don't think so? Oh, I
don't And if and if Saint Louissigns and Nick Rinchy they are drun Zacha
(48:46):
Cassie and coming back. Maybe youknow who it is. Probably it's probably
gonna be Colin White's That's probably whoit's gonna be. I like Josh Bailey
or Colin White, Like what's hisname? The guy that used to play
in Dallas starts like, hey,what's his name? That's the that's the
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guy that scored all his big goalsin the playoffs in twenty twenty. Yeah,
you're right, it is. Hescored. He scored a hatching against
Calgary. He is six. Yeah, we should have broke his wrist.
Yeah, calm down, Maybe weshould have signed him. Yeah, Calgary
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killer. He was all right.Time to get out of here. Next
week's show, Yeah, it's anotheryearly show that we look forward to every
single year, probably our fifth yeardo ye and it's the ten Crazy Predictions
show. Blake and I both comeup with ten crazy ass predictions for this
hockey season. The Taco about him, We'll explain him, we'll try to
(49:49):
justify him, and we probably doa little bit more laughing on that show
then we do on any other night. When are we doing the show,
It's gonna be shuffle fans. Justa couple of day. My daughter's in
the state golf champ up in hipnext week as an eighth grader, which
is you're on the bag crazy,No you can't. I can't, but
no, they're on their own.You can watch and get the standard the
(50:12):
distance. And she's an eighth grader, first year on the team. She
went right from jav late at thevarsity and well planned top five. Oh
you didn't I know, she didn'tlearn from you. Was learned from that.
She's learning from the old man.Okay, hopefully Charles. He's good
at golf. I think she's she'sadequate. She's not good, Okay,
(50:32):
I can't claim myself as good,but I have my moments. Right I
happened. Everybody has her Moment's theshot that keeps them coming. So we
are doing the show next week,but it is going to be Thursday,
October fifth, nine o'clock live Facebook, all all of thems, Debate not
to that comment's on there. It'sgonna be a good one Monday nights.
(50:52):
We will be back to them normallythe following week with the Predictions show.
That is part of the more highlyintest lots coming from the Debate Hockey Podcast.
And enjoy the preseason's free for noinjuries for a regular lineup tomorrow it's
Emerson. Oh alright, alright,alright, So we are back next Thursday
(51:19):
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Do you mean welcome to another episode? Oh they're big hockey, have the
hops the show? Glad you joinedalongside my christ speech friars, What do
we start about? Hockey? Gamesare going? Preseasons going? Do you
want to start Canucks flames? Ordo you want start I can't comment on
(00:41):
that game. I only watch fourminutes. Oh four four minutes. Why
I honestly I sent you a textthe day before and I said, this
game is going to be a shipshow. The Canucks are only sending two
NHL players. Calgary's dressing their wholetop six or starting Goldie and two were
their top four d So I kindof went exactly how I thought of the
(01:03):
goal. Yeah, but Calgary's goalsweren't even from their veterans. I mean,
I guess Sea Lofts had a toughI'm pretty sure I could have stopped
more than him. I mean,but you know what I will say this,
I I saw that I saw thecombined total defenseman games played. I
think it was at twenty six atotal gas. Your defense was god awful,
(01:29):
like it was it was all rookies, like there's not one NHL defenseman
in the lineup. Uh yeah,it was but I they ver be put
on a better lineup tomorrow. Getsat Why would they even? I don't
know. I mean they just wantedto see their kids, I guess.
But like the only nhspers maybe makethat team is whole Glander rath or not
(01:53):
rath Bone. Maybe no, rathBone will make the team. No,
he won't make the team. ButI mean, I mean Coronado looks pretty
good. I mean you know that, Cubido. Okay, you you were
over exaggerating on your Hearbo goal goalof the year last year. It might
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have been the goal of the yearlast five our scene one maybe the goal
of the year for him. Hedidn't have many has named me how many
highlights did the Flames have last year? I'm not many. It's not many,
So I don't think I'm over exaggerating. I mean, they didn't the
goal of the year for the Flames. That's what he meant. Okay,
Well he didn't word it that way. He meant go. He said goal
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of the year like a total inthe league. No, I never said
total of words that year. Isaid goal of the years. I said
hashtag flames. My god, howmuch more I gotta spell it? Out
X will be like to clarify Blake, Okay, I'll just checking. I
want to talk about Taylor Swift andher boyfriend like everybody else is doing.
(03:00):
God, they're not officially dating aswe can't put that label on it.
Why do we just hair you're justhanging out? So why do we say
this? Day? Don't be makingfun of the Swifties? But but why?
Why does? Why is this?They're a very powerful group. They're
very powerful. I'm sure almost NHLfans. I'm sure they're I'm not.
I'm not like a diehard Swifty,but I do like her music. I
(03:23):
like her music old Taylor Shift,country, country Taylor Swift. So what
are your thoughts on this Australia games? I mean they were on at what
like midnight, eleven at night?Yeah, yeah, So I caught half
of the second game or first game. Maybe I think it was a shootout
(03:47):
or something. Maybe that was asecond game. So what's it just me?
Or was it looks it looked likea really cool atmosphere like it looked
it looked awesome. It looked likeit looked like how do I explain this?
It kind of had like the likea soccer atmosphere to it kind of
why I don't mind that. Whydid it seem like half of the arena
(04:09):
was just freaking dark? The lightingmust have been real that the lighting was
pretty bad in there. Look butbut like when they showed the crowd like
they were into it, it waspacked both games like it was. It
was. I think it was agay success for the NHL to go sick.
What for what, We're a hundredyears into this league and we're trying
to grow it. Come on,yeah, I understand that part, but
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one hundred years. We haven't grownthe game in a hundred years. And
all of a sudden and year onehundred and twelve, we're gonna get a
one hundred and four. We're gonnaget somebody be like, you don't want
to really like this hockey? Yeah, well it's for the younger generation,
that's what it's four. Because you'restarting to see younger, younger kids not
play hockey anymore. You're starting tosee that already in small towns in Canada,
(04:53):
there's nobody wants to play hockey anymore. But I go to every sport,
but it's not listening. It's everysport, it's every scape. But
when I listen though. When Iwas growing up, we had initiation novice
adam peewee, bantam and amidgee teamand being faked a town of seven hundred
people, we had six teams.Now there's only one. Nobody wants to
play hockey. Nobody's playing sports ingeneral anymore. It's just it's just the
(05:15):
reality. You know. They'd rathersit at home, not like they'd rather
sit at home playing their video games. They would. When we were kids,
man, we were playing street hockeytill the street light came on and
that was it. That's just whatwe did now, only that you don't
see any street dockey outside. It'sdifferent generations, Blake. You know.
You know another reason I think thatkids aren't playing sports because psychotic dads.
(05:39):
Well yeah, but psychotic dads,Yeah, the parents can sometimes ruin the
experience for the kids for sure.Yeah, it's not fun anymore. I
mean, they don't get to gohave fun anymore. They're gonna be the
thing. The thing about the kidsis, man Like, nowadays you're on
the ice like five six times aweek. Man. When I was a
kid, it was practiced Tuesday,practice Thursday, and played games in the
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weekend. That's all. Ye,you don't need to be playing practicing at
six am Monday to Friday. That'sjust like you're you're just gonna burn a
kid out day. He's just notgonna love the game anymore. My kids
final year of bantam or peewee's peewees, he had he practiced Monday night,
Tuesday night, Wednesday morning, Wednesdaynight, Thursday night games, Friday,
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Saturday, and Sunday. It's stupid. Yeah, like you're burnt out.
You're burnt out, Like, howdo you expect of energy for a game?
It's ridiculous. What do you Whatdo you think of the Minnesota Wilds
new third jersey? They should bemaking those those should be like, I
mean, it's it's one of thebest color combos in the league. It's
the same thing with Vancouver. Theyshould be making this gate jusy their permanent
(06:44):
jersey is just the way it is. Yeah, but sound like I've always
liked it. Sends finally gets soldfor nine hundred and fifty million dollars,
wasn't it. Yeah nine hundred andfifty million right? Yeah? Crazy crazy?
Uh Yeah, they were worth likewhat like seven hundred something and they
almost sold for a billion. It'slike, holy, I know it's crazy.
(07:06):
All right, we got a busy, busy, busy episode. Twenty
questions. I fire twenty questions aboutthis year's NHL season at Blake. He
has no ideas. Have to beone word answers, maybe explain, No,
we gotta explain them, we gottaexplain. But twenty questions. He
has no idea what the questions are. And then we'll go around the NHL,
(07:27):
talk a little bit about the Canuckstrade, Zegers offer stamkoses future and
Chillington missing in action in Calgary.Alright, favorite things we do every single
year. I like this episode.This is an episode, right. I
(07:49):
don't have to prep anything. Ijust gotta sit back and listen. Okay,
are you ready? Question number one, let's go, let's do it.
How many points will Connor McDavid recordand twenty three? Twenty four?
Uh? Okay, wait a second. You can't do that after every question.
Nobody wants to hear that. Youcan't go off for thirty seconds after
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I ask every question one hundred andseventy two. No way yet last year,
there's no way, he guess scoresthat. No way, no way,
no way, that's only what likeone point three points a game?
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Well, eighty two, Well,what's eighty two divided by one seventy one.
I'm gonna get my calculator going eightytwo divided by one seven, it's
over two points a game. Okay, that's not it's a little crazy.
That's a little crazy. I'd say, Okay, I'll go. I'll go
one hundred and fifty five. Iwas gonna say one hundred and eight,
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one hundred and eighty. No,he'd be way over one hundred eight.
So you're betting on him being onehundred percent healthy again all year. He's
gonna have three healthy seasons in arow. He still had one. He's
out of his eight seasons, heonly has had one two two. He
was a cod won COVID year.No, but he had time off during
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two seasons though. I mean multiplethings. So I don't know a guy
that skates that fast goes that harderthe net. I don't know. Oh,
you can get one hundred and fifty. I'll go one hundred and fifty
points. Question number two, whowill be the rookie point leader? A
bard I'm gonna I'm gonna reveal mysixty eight points, sixty eight points.
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I'm gonna reveal mine next week.He's gonna have sixty eight points, okay
the next I'm not gonna go crazyand say he's gonna get like ninety.
He's just not realistic. The nexttwo questions. The next two questions deal
with fantasy hockey, and I knowyou play fantasy hockey. So number three,
I want to know who your sleeperpick is. I was gonna be
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one of my questions. Do youactually is one? I beat you to
it, Tyler BERTUZI I don't mindthat at all, to be honest with
you, He's gonna be playing withAustin Matthews and Mitch Marner, and I
love the way he plays. He'sgonna get so many points. I love
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the way he plays. He's gonnaget so much points. All right,
Well, number four is gonna bewho's the bust? Pick a bus bus
bust? Danny Maulkin. Why doyou say that he's just been injured the
last three years? I know,But do you think a lot of fancy
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guys are putting a lot of stockin him this year? Mm? Probably
not, but I mean still aname. How about J. T.
Miller Okay, what do you meanyou're trying to bait me? Now,
I'm not following for your shit.Why guy's gonna play in one of the
best power plays in the league thisyear? What are we saying? I
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will bet you money the Canucks powerplay doesn't it doesn't land in the top
ten. It's been the top tenthe last three years, So how can
you say that. I'm going toThey have one of the best power play
quarterbacks, they have two of thebest fucking half wall guys. Come on,
what are you saying? Come on, you want to bet on that?
You want to make a bet onthat that Vancouver has a top ten
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power play this year. We'll comeup with something. Okay, I still
think you owe me a jersey fromlike seven years ago. There's a couple
of things I know you owe me, So all right. Question number five?
Who record more points this year?Nathan McKinnon, Matthew Kachuck or Kutrov
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uh Kachuck? Really yeah, Ithink he's going to record the least of
the three good I'm not saying he'snot good, but Canucks are Canucks.
Kitchuck is more than just a pointguy though, Like that's not even what
he was really knowing for his points? What do you mean last years he's
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had over one hundred and ten.Yeah, he's had two good, really
good years. But can he continuethat? I don't know, I mean
with his style, can he continuethat? I well, there's no there
ain't no doubtam until he doesn't doit. Okay, I think Nathan McKinnon
will have him more points. It'shere, that's fair. I don't see.
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I don't know. Question number six, which NHL player will have a
breakout season this year and will makehimself a household name in the league.
M I know, this is atough one. I had to really think
about this one, and I'm noteven sure what I would answer this one.
I really don't I don't know whatI would answer this one. I'm
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trying to think, like off thetop of my head. That's the only
bad thing about this because I don'tknow the questions. Well, that's the
fun part of it, right,you know how. I think it's gonna
have a really good year, buthe's already like a household name. I
think Taylor Hall is gonna have areally good year. Yeah, that would
be. That would be. Idon't want to say that. I don't
like. I don't think that breakup. He's won a Hart Trophy,
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but I think he's gonna have agood year. Yeah, that might be
a sleeper pick. Yeah, youknow. Yeah. Number seven, who
will have a bounce back season?Balanced back season. I'm trying to think
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of who had a bad year lastyear? Austin Matthews. Yeah, well,
I mean he answer, that's agood answer. Maybe like a guy
like Logan Couture or something. Idon't know. I'm thinking like a Jacob
Marks from Mark Shrom that's another goodone. He had a really bad year.
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But he's been like the last fouryears, he's his even years have
been good, his odd years havebeen bad. Yeah, that's just the
way it's been every other year.It's like flip flops. His last year
in Vancouver was good, and thenstruggled his first year in Calgary, and
then last year at two years agohe had ten shoutouts. Last year it
was bad. It was a question. Number eight, what teams are you
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most excited to watch this year?The Buffalo Sabers, I would agree,
New Jersey Devils. No, Iwould disagree you Edmonton Oilers. Yeah,
they'll be a fun team to watch. La Kings I was fun me and
you were definitely on the King's Bandwigan. I think the Arizona Coyotes might be
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surprisingly will I said, we saidthat two weeks ago. They're they're gonna
be a good team, Like they'renot gonna make the playoffs, but like
be a good team. I thinkCarolina is going to be a fun team
to watch this here. Well,they're always a fun team. It'd be
very interesting to see what Pittsburgh doesthis year. Yeah, you know what,
I'm also interested to see a Detroittoo. I don't know, we've
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we've been waiting for them to come. They haven't game. I don't either
have been the buffal. They're turninginto a buffalo. But it makes me
wonder though, doesn't it make youwonder a little bit where where that's gonna
go? Yeah? I don't know. Question number nine, who will be
the first coach fired? I'm gonnastick with the same answer I had last
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year. T J. Smith couldbe why do I feel like like,
why do I feel like there's goingto be less coaches fired this year?
Wow? I mean there usually isn'tEddie coaches fired to a while like American
Thanksgiving. Oh, we can't gowith the one that's already been fired.
I don't think can we? Doesthis one cock? He didn't even get
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a game? Does that count?I mean, I don't think that counts?
Does Hey? He didn't even geta game. Did you see his
top ten in wins was zero?I'm interested to see what happens in Toronto
if a slow start happens there.They just gave a two year deal.
I don't think they care in Toronto. I really don't think they care.
I really don't like it. Isliterally make hay or be done this year?
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What a Mike Sullivan's and Mike Sullivan'sI got to keep an eye on
if they get off to a slowstart. Woodcroft, is he on the
hot seat a little bit? Imean, how many more? How many
more seasons does he get? He'sonly had two, not even two,
he's had three. I believe hesaid, didn't he take over this third
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year? This is his third year? So this last year was his first
full year? No no, no, no, no no no no no
no was last year was his firstfull year he took over. He took
over when I was in Salmon armDude, that's that was two years ago.
This is this, this is thissecond full season, So I mean,
how many how many more kicks ofthe candidate Edmonton? Now? I
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mean, I mean, I don'tknow. It's like so things if they
get off to a rough start,is he on whoever won that Vegas Edmonton
series is winning the cup? That'sjust the way it was. And they
lost in Vegas won like that's that'sjust tough slide. And I guess,
I mean, I mean, Ithink he's got a pretty secure job.
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The only way he gets fired isit like they got swept in the first
round or something. What if theymissed the playoffs, which which I think
highly doubtful, high doubl No,what player are you most excited to watch
this season? A lot? Imean the easy answers Bedard. I mean,
that's something you're gonna laugh when youhear mine. You're gonna laugh when
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you hear mine. You shouldn't.You won't laugh. You'd be like,
oh, honestly, like I enjoywatching all the guys that grew up like
the old the old guys like Crosby'sand all of Vetchkins, and like I'm
so attached to those that older corebecause I grew up with them, so
like the younger guys. That's moreabout the younger generation guys like obviously like
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Patterson, Like I like those guys, but like, I don't know,
I like I like watching Crosby.Super excited to watch Tim Stutslo this year.
I just I love watching him play. He's one of my favorites to
watch. Yeah, now he's agood player. Question number eleven, the
chase continues. How many goals willa Vetchkins score this season? Do you
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want to answer that? Because yousaid he's not gonna break it like four
years ago, not only you will. I think he scores thirty two this
year. Well, Vetchkanes is gonnascore forty. Okay, I say thirty
two. Well, Vetchkin is gonnahave a fifty goal season, one more
left in him. Oh that's abold prediction, bold take, buddy,
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Yeah, bold should save that fornext week. Maybe it's happening this year.
You should say shoot next week onthe debate predictions. Yeah, well
no, next week's now predictions itis. It's ten crazy predictions next week,
and that would be I don't thinkthat's crazy, that's not crazy.
Yeah, that's crazy, all right. Question number twelve, how many players
will be suspended when Team Canada scandalis finally announced and when will it be
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announced? Or is Canada Hockey justgonna shuffle this under the rug? Well
they can't. Nobody's nobody's with HockeyCanada. That was a part of that.
So there's no way they could sweepit under the rug. Why is
it taking so long because they gotall new people in there, They're trying
to do this instigation properly and theycould take as much time as they want.
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Is if they get it right andit takes him another year, it
is what it is like. Theycan't get this wrong, dude. They
there's too many people involved and toomany big names in the NHL that were
on that team. Like if itcomes out that it was like a Carter
Hart, I'd be so. Iwould. I would lay down large amount
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of money that his name is onit, because like I will lay down
a large fired his psychologist coach hislast two years in the league. That's
just been a spiral since this cameout in the press. He's been dogshit.
I don't know, I don't Idon't want to, I don't want
to make allegations. I'm not makingallegations. I'm just saying I'd put money
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on it. Yeah, see,we'll see. I hope I'm wrong.
But you know what, they've alreadylike greased the wheel that it's NHL players.
Oh yeah, and it's so,what do you think happens? What
do you think happens? What canthey do? What the league? The
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league can spend as much as theywant in ten games. I don't know.
I don't know. I don't knowwhat they did in game. I
don't know what they did. Theyraped the girl? Okay, well,
then you know what will happen?Then criminal chargers will be no, no
criminal. You can't kick them outthe league because then you got to kick
everybody that does something criminal for ayear. Then they're gonna go to jail.
If that's rape. You won't haveto do anything as a league,
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right, I guess, because theywon't be available to play. You leave
it up to the legal at first, because if you set a precedent and
you determine their guilt and you suspendthem, then you have not trusting the
NHL players safety because they don't doa dick all. Well, they don't
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because the NHLPA is the one whodictates what happens. It's kind of like
the NFL, like you those isthere with dostic violence that's unreal and nothing
happens, right, Yeah, majorLeague Baseball's similar, maybe a little bit.
Major League Baseball cracks eighty game suspension. They do correct way more the
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first time. It's eighty games.NFL, like, I get it's like
a smaller season, but like fourgames, Like what is that? I
know, it's it's embarrassing. Honestly, it should be more of the NFL
because there's less games. Yeah,you're right, you're right, like you
should get eight games and it's andit's and it seems to happen more frequently
in the NFL, like DeShawn Wattson, like we got like a slap on
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the wrist. Yeah, yeah,it's too bad. I'm just curious to
see when this finally does come out. But all right, question number thirteen,
does Shane Wright in Seattle prove thathe is for real? Or does
he prove he is a bust thisseason? Wall For Seattle's sake, he
better figure it out, because Imean, he had a good year in
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the HL. He just just nevertranslated. I mean like that's that's a
thing, like it's a huge,huge step HL NHL. Did you did
you say he was generational? ThoughI did not go back in the tapes,
go back in the tapes. Ihad a na say I'm sorry,
I slipped my memory. That waslaffing year that you said was you said
that that was not me? Yousaid was not me. You're trying to
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tell me that Tyler Myers is agood signing for us to you'll happen with
that. You said that you hadtoo much snaps and you're Tim Horton's that
night. God, Oh, here'sa really good question. Here's a really
really good question. What is thebest division in hockey? Oh it's Atlantic
Division. That's not That's an easyone. Okay, you're gonna have I'm
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not gonna argue. You're gonna haveyou're gonna have Tampa Bay, you're gonna
have Boston, you're gonna have Florida, you're gonna have Toronto. You got
up and coming Buffalo team, yougot up and coming Detroit team, you
got Ottawa in the mix. That'sthe best division. I signed close.
Okay, So where does a Pacificit in it's probably one of the worst,
probably bottom two. See, Idon't think so anymore. I look
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at the Mate or the Metro.Okay, you got what three really good
teams in the Metro and some mediocreand not good teams. Okay, you
got three. It's the same.It's the same in the Pacific. Yep,
three good teams and two mediocre andtwo really bad. I don't no.
I think one of the mediocres thisyear is going to really step up,
whether that be Vancouver, or whetherthat be Vancouver or Calgary or Seattle,
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one of those is really kind ofsurprise. I do believe too.
I do believe that. I thinkSeattle is going to take a step back.
But I too, I do too. If I to put money in
the beat my step back. Yeah. Question number fifteen, who is the
best goalie in hockey currently? Eliasare Okin? Do you like him better
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than Shusterkin? Yeah? I do, I do too. I like sir,
I like I like Stroking a lot. He's uh, he plays on
conventional game like he just because he'sa different style. He's just like kindie.
He you know, he reminds meof is of getting in the back
off. Yeah, but better likea better version the back off was a
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great goalie for a lot of years. Like he just played that like hybrid
kind of stand up like he justI don't know that eighty bill four style.
Yeah, the kind of the Ilike a butter a butterfly, but
was super versatile and and my mytop three probably be saroking vassy. It's
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just striking probably right now. Yeah, that's what I would go, all
right, Number sixteen, what playeron a new NHL team this season will
have the biggest impact. I'll stickwith my Tyler PERTUZI answer. And that's
you know what, when I wrotethis question, that was the guy that
had in my mind, I'm like, oh, yes, it's gonna be.
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I mean, he's gonna get firstpower play unity. They're gonna move
they move knee Lander back to center, which is kind of interesting. I
mean, do you think that's agood decision. I mean, look at
look at how look at the teamsthat Toronto was lost to in the playoffs.
How do they lose It's three centersdown the middle. Now you got
Matthews, Tamars, knee Lander downthe middle. That maybe maybe that's maybe
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that's the road to go. Idon't know if you can play, if
you can find a good look alook at look at look at stamp Coast
points Sorelli down the middle. That'syea, but that's how you win.
You win down the middle. Yeah, so I see there. I see
their logic in a move like that. But too, I just it makes
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sense. You can always put themback to the wing. You can't put
a you can't put a winger andmake him a center. But you can
always put a center on the wing. It's it's pretty easy. Yeah.
Number seventeen, what excuse me?Will Patrick Kane play in the NHL this
season? And if so, withHua he will play? I think he's
gonna sign uh with the Buffalo Sabershometown kid. I don't I really going
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back home. I don't think that'llhappen. What do you think? I
don't he loves the cab drivers overthere. Yeah, I gotta feeling they
love him too. He might haveburned enough bridges in that town. I
don't know. We'll see us.Your number eighteen, what player will have
the largest season of regression from lastyear? Can I say Jonathan Huberto?
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I'm skidding. I have been acorrect as last year. Uh boy,
you're gonna freak when you when youhear who, I say, who wouldn't
know who had a really outstanding year? Oh I know this, I can
get like all those points. YeahI do. I do. When I
when I say who, I think, you're gonna be like, oh,
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hell, yeah, you're right,go to Vegas. Okay, who is
it? Eric Carlson? No wayin hell that's an easy one. No
way in hell he does that.He is playing better, he is playing
with better players. Though it's notgonna happen again. You do else.
I really think has a chance thoughthat I think has a chance for a
big regression. And I hope notbecause I like watching him, but David
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Pasternick, I don't know. Iswith the way things are in Boston this
year. I I mean, I'mnot talking like a hubert O drop,
but it could be a substantial drop. Fifty goals last year, one hundred
and thirteen points. Like I couldsee him back at it, like eighty
eight eighty nine point of game,Yeah I could. I really could see
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that. Yeah, I mean that'snot a bad season though, not at
all. But that's still a bigregression, right, Yeah, you know
it's not quite humid. I'll goon one hundred and fifteen to sixty five,
fifty five fifty five, get itright, fifty five. That's gotta
be the worst point chop in theleague. No, all time most,
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No, actually all time. Yeah. You remember when I asked you a
month of this season if you're worriedabout I'm still not. I am,
honestly I'm still not. Oh,eight year deal kicks in this year,
buddy, not worried. Okay,well, I'll get a Paul check on.
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Yeah, he'll have eighty two pointsstand the season. Okay, that's
right. We'll see about that question. Number nineteen is Elias Lindholm and Michael
Kneelander still Flames and Leafs players attrade deadline. Michael Kneelander, who's William
Lander? He's diving back to mypast. I think Lindholm signs an extension.
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I think they're gonna overpay to keephim, and I think ni Lander
walks for nothing. Really, yeah, you think he's just gonna chase money.
He's it's he's so the players tenmil. Oh, they can't give
him ten mils. Not a chance. You can give him ten mil.
No, but the Flames you mighthave no choice to give litt home ten
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milk. You can't. No,no, no, they won't. They
let him walk for that. Theywon't. Okay, I gonna let your
number one center who's twenty eight walkfor nothing if he wants that much.
He's not a game changer. Calgary'soffering him nine mill and he out he
asked for ten. Just give himthe ten milis. No, you don't
do that. That's how you getyourself, that's that's the Canucks way of
doing things. Okay, but dude, you're in a market where like you're
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gonna have to overpay players to stayin Canada. That's how it always is.
You give him he has been.Nobody else is gonna give him now.
Is he gonna be a number onecenter? You're gonna go into a
full rebuild? No, god,no, we have a ton of good
players. Okay, but name meone good Name me a team with good
players, a ton of good players. It doesn't have a number one center.
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That's a good team. Name meone team that. That's still not
a license to overpay. It's stillnot a license to overpay. You offer
Johnny Lennholm is worth more money thanJohnny control. Is that crazy to say?
Am I absolutely taking crazy pills forthat? I think you're crazy on
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that. Yeah, and I'm anumber one center. He's a better defensive
player defense, absolutely, But I'msorry. I hate to say this though,
Blake, We're not We're living ina league, and I play.
I would pay for intangibles because Ithink that's really important. But you don't
mean Okay, don't sure you can. You can let him walk and spread
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out that money all you want,but you still don't win without a number
one center. It's just playing.So I don't know that you win with
him. I'm just saying that.I mean, I think you don't.
You don't go over nine five Well, okay, so you're gonna let him
walk over five hundred thousand? Really, yeah, I mean it is.
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If you're gonna let let him walkfor nothing, you're basically telling your fan
base that we're going into it.You're not going into a rebuild. You
can't. There's rebuilds or a thingof the past nowadays when you have guys
whatever you want to, So you'regoing into a retool. Okay, you
can't overpay for eight years. Youcan't. You can't tie yourself to offense.
If it's what if it's ten yearsor sorry, what if it's uh,
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what if it's six years sixty mil? No, six years or five
years six or five years fifty?No, six years. No, I'm
not going mill a year, notdoing that. I don't want to know.
Well, he's worth nine to tenmill. It's just what that's what
guys are getting at this rate.We'll see, we'll see, we'll see,
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like how much how much is Pettersare gonna get? We're actually no,
we're not going down that road becausethe media is pissing me off already
about it. It's gonna be alot more than than Lin will get.
He's gonna get eleven mill, probablyprobably more. Yeah, and I give
him a blank check because they haveno choice. Question number twenty Is anything
short of a Stanley Cup of failurefor the Edmonton Oilers or the Toronto Maple
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Leafs. No, it's it's wellfor the Leafs. For the Leafs.
No, because the Oilers have goneto the conference final twice in the last
four years, so they they've beenthey've been closer to getting over that hump.
Yeah, but how just won theirfirst round in eighteen years, they're
running out of time going the coreis definitely running out of time. But
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for the Oilers, it's for sure, copper Bost that has to be like,
the Oilers are banking on Skinner toto grow and develop more, and
you gotta expect Campbell and have abalance back here like you. You have
to expect that. Right, We'llsee Campbell's gonna start game one for them.
I know he should. He's gonnastart. He's gonna start game one.
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That you paid him five million dollarsto be your starting goalie. He's
they're gonna give him every what ifhe allows five, then I'm saying there's
as good a chance he does ashe doesn't. Well, they play the
Canucks and they last year, Wellthere was three goals on nine shots and
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then the Canucks blew the game andlost five three. So you're telling me
to bet the over that night becauseit'll probably be nine to five. Yeah,
probably with the way the Canucks defenseis, it'll be nine for Edmond
and stop train wreck. Just guysjust turning wrong ways and holy god,
it's train wreck. It's a trainwreck. We're gonna talk about that next
week. So all right, timeto go around the National Hockey League.
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All right, Vancouver canucksons to thistopic was the night and they had a
trade this week as Vancouver acquired Caseyto Smith from Montreal for Tanner Pearson and
a third round pick in twenty twentyfive. Talk to me, Yeah,
it's a it's a it's a winwin for both teams. I mean,
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it's a Tanner Pierson had a frustratingyear last year. He had like seven
hand surgeries and got him totally screwedover by the Vancouver Canucks. It was
a ship show from the star withhim for so good on Vancouver for getting
him a fresh start and having achance to play a role with another team
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because he probably was going to beput on waivers or sent down to the
HL in Vancouver. So they theydo Tann Pearson right after kind of screwed
him over last year, and Vancouvergets back a service, serviceable backup that
they haven't had and since they've hadEuros off a lock. And what happens
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to Spencer Martin. With Spencer Martin, I don't even know what. They
have seven goalies under contract right now, seven so like it's they just brought
in that Sauceanco this summer like theyyou're ten, they be in the HL
is gonna be It's gonna be Demkosto Smith and then the HL you're gonna
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have Spencer Martin. You're gonna haveArcher c Lows. They were talking time
old, time old. They weretalking today on Daily Faceoff and it doesn't
sell like Spencer Martin. They likethat. Vancouver wants him down there,
they want well they while they weretalking about happen a third goalie with Vancouver
like to like to practice and stuff. So then they're gonna have to roster
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him then, huh So, Idon't know what they're gonna do. Like
it's the biggest thing with Vancouver wasthat Demco has been hurt the last two
years and they didn't have anybody,didn't have a service back up to back
up. So if Heaven forbid,Demko does get hurt, dismiss a capable
guy to come in and play playand give you a chance to win.
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Right, they haven't had that ina long time, haven't had it in
a while, So that does itsuck giving up a third round pick for
matre All to eat salary? Sure, but I mean that's just the cost
of not mature all helping all Vancouverbecause they would have been over the cap.
So that's the priced eat two anda half million bucks. And I
think it's a good it's a goodtrade for both teams. So you think
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the dilemma in Calgary on Lindholm isup against the wall. How about Zegras
in Anaheim? As the Ducks havesixteen point six million in cap space,
twenty two players under contract for theupcoming season, and they offer Pat Verbeek
offers them a low ball deal.It was reported that they offered him a
three to four million dollar deal.Okay, they can do that. He's
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an RFA. Then Holme's at ufatotally different situation. I'm not comparing,
and Blake, I'm not. Youcan play hardball with r face. I'm
not complaining. It's the worst casein there. They're gonna get out there
Montreal. Montreal is gonna help outCaroline and Offsheetah, and that it's done
for you. No, here's thedeal, here's what it's gonna do.
It's gonna piss Zegers off and he'sgonna play out one more year and tell
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you to kick rocks. Maybe that'swhat it's gonna do. You can play
it, you go, you youThey always play hardball with RFA, it's
been yeah, but you can't playhardball to that point. Yeah, that's
an insult. That's an insult.Not the hardball is different than an insult.
Much Ze is worth six, Yeah, that's a far cry from three.
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So if they said four and ahalf or five, I could say,
okay, you're in the range thenright, and me in the I
don't think he's worth like eight ninemile. I don't either. I don't
either, but he's worth more thanWould you give him more than four to
come to Vancouver? Yeah? Igive him probably six? There you go,
there you go. So then offerhim five. Play hardball with him
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there. Don't don't offer him threeand insult him because now he's gonna be
like packer bags. Honey, afterthis season's over, we'ren staying here.
They don't have my back. Yeah, that's what I would do. Dat.
He's dating all Dixie Demilio too.He saw that. You know,
you probably don't know who that is. I don't have any idea who that
isn't I don't even very you're veryold. I think I want to know
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who that is, Shane Pinto dealsstill not happening. I know Ottawa is
looking to trade someone to free capspace up to sign him to an appropriate
contract. Let me let me lookhere, let me look at it.
I was just I was gonna lookat that today. Look at what they're
their contracts. I'm just their contractlike their cap space. Who they who
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they could trade like? Well,I well, you would that prime the
guy. You would try to tradehis Zuba. But no one's taken that.
I mean, there's not beyond thisroster that I would trade. Maybe
Matt Joseph two point nine, DominicanKuba Leaks two point five? Who's taking
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now at six and a half?Oh, who's taking Kuba Leak? I
don't afford to take. I loveall these contracts like Stutzel at eight three,
you got kit Shock for another five. At eight two, you got
bathroost In for another four. Atfour point nine, you got Shabbat at
eight mil for the next eight yearsI'm sorry, more years at four six.
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I think he's an integral part ofthis Ottawa senator's future. I do,
I really do the old I'll thinkont Josh Norris at seven nine two
what a deal that is. Well, we'll see he's been hurt though,
we'll see. I love their goaltown. I like Automa on paper,
like they're back in as young.They're back in as young. You got
but our doger, you got Sanderson, you got brand strip checker, and
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you got Shabbat. I like CorpusSalo. I like the addition of Corpus
Salo. But they're in the bestdivision of league. So we'll see it
happens. Be interesting. Uh,Stephen stamp Coos got brushed off by the
Tampa Bay Lightning this week, anduh, there's an underlying belief for all
Damn Tampa wouldn't be crushed if Stampcosleft. Yeah you sah, you just
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don't piss people like that off likethat guy's Uh, it surprised me,
it really did. I can't imaginehim in another uniform like he's been that.
I don't want to imagine him inanother unif. It's like it's like
Jonathan tays like, I do notwant to see that guy play for another
I don't either. I want himto just retire. So it's like like
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guys like that like that that that'sthe generation I'm talking about. The Crosby's,
the stamp Coast is the tas Likeall those guys have played their whole
career for one team and just beenloyalist shit and that's how they get treated.
Oh, I'm with you, I'mwith you. It's tough. This
crazy situation in Calgary. Oliver Chillingtonwas originally supposed to be playing this year,
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reported it all, everything was good, everything was taken care of that
caused him to lose last year's season. Reports the training camp and doesn't make
it out of medical clearance. Lotsof speculation, lots of thoughts. I
have no idea, but at thispoint I think you cut ties and get
your cap space back right. Well, how much is he making to something?
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They sent him to a two yeardeal and they haven't been able to
use them once. What's the issue? Like he stated, personal reasons.
I don't understand why everything's so topsecret anymore. I don't understand. I
could see it being top secret fora year, and if you don't get
your stuff figured out, then it'shard to be top secret anymore. But
I guess we'll see what happens there. But you know what, it is,
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time to fast forward into three questions. It's time for three questions,
like it's your turn this week,fire three at me. What was your
honest thoughts on the heritage classic jerseys. I don't mind the flames one.
I know I have some flames.Fans are friends some flames friends that absolutely
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hate it. I don't hate it. I don't know that I love it.
I think Edmonton's is god awful.Mentons is different for sure. Well
it's the brown pants and stuff lookbad. I don't I don't think it's
awful. It's different. The jersey, though, is not. Jerseys would
be so much better if they hadout yellow stripe at the bottom of their
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jerseys. Yeah, that's all it'smissing. That's all it's missing is a
yellow stripe. But at the bottomand on the arms. It's all.
If it has a yellow stripe onthe bottom and on the arms, it's
ten out ten. Yeah. Butthat logo, like there's rare, there's
there's yellow in the logo, Likewhy did you not have yellow on the
arms and on the bottom. Ilike the red helmets with the white jerseys.
I like that. I the oildrop is got awful though in Edmonton.
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That's awful. Yeah, that's itcould have been a lot better.
I mean, the heritage ones alwaysusually suck. Okay, well, it
sinks you stole one of my questions. I don't want to ask you.
So, who's your biggest sleeper thisyear? If you have another guy,
I've I penciled Bertusia as in abig as a big one. Uh I,
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I don't know. That's that's oneguy that really stood out to me.
I guess I don't even I can'teven think of a another one right
off the top of my head.Yeah, I'm going Bertusi too. That's
what I'm going with. What wouldyou do if you were Kevin chevel day
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off with the Winnipeg Jets and thesituation with Connor Hellabuck and Mark Shiflely two
pending UFA's give him my offer,and if they said no, I would
trade him. Really, what choicedo you have? I think you have
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there? I think there is nochoice. You give him your you ride
out this season, You ride outthe season and lose him for nothing.
I mean, what you're you justtraded Dubois for Well, okay, I'll
look at it this way. Youjust trade Dubois for a pile of stuff.
(45:35):
Good players you should. You shouldbe doing the same, sure if
you can, but you gotta tradehim a deal. I would trade Hallabuck
and I would trade Shifely. Nobodymay sound crazy. That may sound crazy.
It might be the best thing forthe Jets, especially Shifly. And
the thing I don't think your returnwould be. You would get a lot
for Shifly, a lot, alot. He's twenty eight years old,
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dus in the prime of his career. So maybe you trade maybe maybe maybe
Calgary let and you keep Hellabuck.Maybe Calgary let's Lindolm walk and they signed
Shifly. I would rather have Lyndelthan Schifly. I don't know. I'd
rather woman. I don't know.You would excuse me, I don't know.
I don't mind Shifle. Answer thatwith a straight face, please,
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I would I don't. I wouldnot mind if Schifley was on the on
my favorite team. Yeah, butwould would you trade? Would you take
Lindholm right now and trade one onefor Shifle? You are not doing that
trade. You are lying to meright now. You're lying to me.
Think about it. It's dude,it's it's it's not even a question.
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Lindholm is a way better player.I don't know, Okay, I think
I think, honestly, I thinkShifle's gone, and I think Connor Hellibuckle
resigns, and I know that Iam way out of I know I'm way
out of the majority who feel thatway. I'm way out of the majority
who feel that way. But Ijust my God tells me. I think
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the league has taken an approach wherethey're not gonna pay goalies crazy amounts anymore.
And I think Winnipeg is probably theonly team that will give him a
crazy amount. Like what did Ijust say ten minutes ago? Canadian markets
are gonna have to overplay to keepplayers. It's just what it is.
Vancouver had a over tape Overpaide atMoller a little bit right, the Overpaide
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Tyler Meyers too. That was thatquestion? Two or three? Three?
That was three? Okay? Listenerquestion, are you ready for this?
Yeah? Which PTO is most likelyto sign an NHL contract? Is it?
Josh Bailey? Give me a list, Please give him to listen to
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me. Josh Bailey and Ottawa,Brandon Sutter and Edmonton, Nick Ritchy and
Single, Louis uh Danton Heinen inBoston Zach Cassian and Anaheim Austin Watson and
Tampa Bay, Colin White in Pittsburgh, Sam Ghani and Edmonton, Zack Aston
Reese and Carolina, Joel Kivonta inuh Colorado. I think Zach Aston Reese
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is gonna play a perfect style forCarolina. No, I don't know if
they have a room though. ButJosh Bailey, Who's who is the first
two? They said, Josh Bailey? And who Brandon Sutter in Edmonton he
doesn't get signed, I don't think. Don't think so? Oh, I
don't And if and if Saint Louissigns and Nick Rinchy they are drun Zacha
(48:46):
Cassie and coming back. Maybe youknow who it is. Probably it's probably
gonna be Colin White's That's probably whoit's gonna be. I like Josh Bailey
or Colin White, Like what's hisname? The guy that used to play
in Dallas starts like, hey,what's his name? That's the that's the
(49:07):
guy that scored all his big goalsin the playoffs in twenty twenty. Yeah,
you're right, it is. Hescored. He scored a hatching against
Calgary. He is six. Yeah, we should have broke his wrist.
Yeah, calm down, Maybe weshould have signed him. Yeah, Calgary
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killer. He was all right.Time to get out of here. Next
week's show, Yeah, it's anotheryearly show that we look forward to every
single year, probably our fifth yeardo ye and it's the ten Crazy Predictions
show. Blake and I both comeup with ten crazy ass predictions for this
hockey season. The Taco about him, We'll explain him, we'll try to
(49:49):
justify him, and we probably doa little bit more laughing on that show
then we do on any other night. When are we doing the show,
It's gonna be shuffle fans. Justa couple of day. My daughter's in
the state golf champ up in hipnext week as an eighth grader, which
is you're on the bag crazy,No you can't. I can't, but
no, they're on their own.You can watch and get the standard the
(50:12):
distance. And she's an eighth grader, first year on the team. She
went right from jav late at thevarsity and well planned top five. Oh
you didn't I know, she didn'tlearn from you. Was learned from that.
She's learning from the old man.Okay, hopefully Charles. He's good
at golf. I think she's she'sadequate. She's not good, Okay,
(50:32):
I can't claim myself as good,but I have my moments. Right I
happened. Everybody has her Moment's theshot that keeps them coming. So we
are doing the show next week,but it is going to be Thursday,
October fifth, nine o'clock live Facebook, all all of thems, Debate not
to that comment's on there. It'sgonna be a good one Monday nights.
(50:52):
We will be back to them normallythe following week with the Predictions show.
That is part of the more highlyintest lots coming from the Debate Hockey Podcast.
And enjoy the preseason's free for noinjuries for a regular lineup tomorrow it's
Emerson. Oh alright, alright,alright, So we are back next Thursday
(51:19):
night. Enjoy this week's hockey action. Next week's gonna be a precis gonna
be a crazy one. We're greathockey talk every single week for Debate Hockey
Podcast hockey fans. That was anothergreat episode of the Debate Hockey Podcast with
Brad Burrut and Blake Friars. Keepit locked on Debate Hockey dot com for
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