December 5, 2023 • 49 mins
THE DEBATE - Hockey Podcast – Episode 235 – NHL Quarter Mark: Yotes Headline the Surprises
Host- Brad Burud @BradBurud
Co-Host- Blake Friars @FriarsBlake
--- EPISODE 235 ---
Evaluating the NHL Quarter Mark
AROUND THE NHL: Zadorov Trade, Barrie, Habs Goaltending, Wild Fire, Vicious Slash, Kane Signs, and Perry Disaster
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--- EPISODE 235 ---
Evaluating the NHL Quarter Mark
AROUND THE NHL: Zadorov Trade, Barrie, Habs Goaltending, Wild Fire, Vicious Slash, Kane Signs, and Perry Disaster
3 Questions
Listener Questions: Hockey jerseys are the best jerseys in all of sports - if you could only buy one more - What team? What style? What player?
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(00:21):
It is time to talk to NHLHockey. It is time to the Debate
Hockey podcast. I'm hostly Joe bradBrude, going alongside my poles each and
every week like friars and it isuh. Yeah, we had a week
out yet last week with all kindsof different things as I, uh high
battled a little COVID and you,uh you what did you have? You
(00:44):
I had? Why didn't Well,yeah, I had hockey and either well
I wasn't really feeling great, NoI was. It was kind of brutal,
but uh and then and then Ijust went to Calgary. Uh this
weekend and uh now I'm back,but I had docs are playing today,
so I wasn't sure if it's gonnamake it, but here we are.
(01:06):
Episode was this two thirty five?Yeah, sometimes it seems like it should
be more, and sometimes it seemslike it should be less. What did
you do like thirty thirty a season? About thirty four Between thirty and four
thirty five a season on average,I would say just every week during the
regular season, and then every weekduring the postseason, and then once twice
(01:30):
a month during the offseason. Yeah, yeah, just enough to give us
a little break to reset a littlebit before we get going. I gotta
get your opinion on something here quick. There's a bunch of teams in the
WHL. I don't know if you'veseen this, but they changed their name
for one night and they had likea name significant to their city and had
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new jerseys and new merchandise and everything. And I saw there was there was
one last week and I can't rememberthe name was Clever. It was somebody
out west and I can't think ofthe name. But I did see that
the Brandon and Wheat Kings did itthis weekend and they were the on Friday
night against the Regina Pats. Theywere the Wheat City Walleye and they actually
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they had jerseys for that. Yeah, like they had a logo and let
me see here I can I'm gonnado it on the flyer and see.
If I can't, I wouldn't beable to pull it up. I don't
have a graphic of it, butuh, yeah, they had jerseys and
everything. And uh, they're notthe only team doing it. There's a
multiple teams that are doing it.And hell, I don't know, maybe
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Brandon should do it every night.They just throttled the Pats six or eight
to one or something crazy that night. That's a that's a cool that's a
cool logo. Yeah, it's kindof different. It's kind of cool.
And I mean they still tied inthe Wheat City and I don't know,
I don't I don't know. It'sa little NBA ish, But I don't
hate this. I don't hate.It's creative. Yeah, it's not terrible.
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It's different. Yeah, I don'tknow the other name. I can't
think of what it was, butit was freaking really cool. It was
something like it is like a fish, and it was also like a fish,
but it was a different aledo.No, it's a w h L
team and like it was a longIt was a name of a fish I
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hadn't heard of before. But Idon't know. Kristin Jarry scores a goal
the other night, does that getyou excited anymore? Or is that on
or off for you? Uh?Yeah, it's cool. It's it's rare.
It doesn't happen very often. It'scool. Like I used to.
I remember that. I remember whenRon Hextall did it. I was just
like, oh, you know,this is amazing. And now you remember
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when you when you remember when Martydid it in the playoffs. I was
pretty good. I was pretty legit. He was jumping up and down.
The best one, the best oneby far in my life. I at
least is is Jose Theater behind thatwhere he turned his stick around and shot
and flipped the puck from behind thatI was And who else? Who else
did that? Oh? Duane Rolisonused to do that too. You should
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put his glove up top and hisblocker on the bottom. Yeah, yeah,
I don't know. I mean it'scool. It's just it's one of
those things. Another thing I sawthis week for the first time I've never
seen before official calls, like someroughing calls and a couple of slashes or
something, and everybody gets a misconduct. I was like, I was like,
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all right, I mean it wasthe audible Florida game, right,
No, yeah, it was fourit was four and nothing. There was
like six minutes left and he's like, everybody ice, you're gone. I
was like, all right, Ithought it was cool. It was good.
It was actually super smart, don'tyou think. Yeah, all the
game somehow knocked out of the hand. But I know you hate it.
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I know, oh you hated wallI'm and Sally on Saturday, and it
was awesome. It was awesome.Did you just say I didn't know?
I know you you're a traditionalist.You don't like celebrations. You don't like
celebrations. No, I just actlike you've done it. I mean,
I don't know. I don't mindcelebration, and you're act like he's done
it. He's done that celebration beforehe's mastered it. It's awesome in that
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fashion, nude ever you want.If you score an overtime winner, I'm
like, okay with it. Ifit's an it's like a one one No,
Like, you can't be doing that. I'm sorry. I just can't
give the times he've done it otwinners. That's okay. I can live
with it. I can live withthat. I lived with you and and
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the best thing about it is itactually was a good gritty like like you
like it was a that was agood one, like he does it good.
But you know, I just don'tlike it, Like I I despise
the or the NFL when they celebratethese stupid skit bullshit. God, that's
a that's hard to score. Inthe NFL. Touchdowns are hard to come
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by. Man, Oh break,what do you mean? They get millions?
And I know, dude, butI'm just saying, like it's hard
to score a touchdown in the league. Oh, it's all right. So
you went up to Calgary this week, and I'm sure you then probably it's
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got a full screen here. What'sgoing on? Yeah? What's there?
There? He is? That's cool, cool story. You were taking that
picture. Did you happen to askPetterson how much she's gonna We didn't have
much. We had maybe a littlebit left in there, but no,
it was good. We stay atthe Sheridan in downtown Calgary, and you
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know it's free complimary breakfast, anduh that's why. Yeah, yeah,
I have free breakfast. Anyway,So I went down there a little late,
so my dad went down there atabout eight thirty because we didn't we
didn't get to bed. We didn'tget back to like to two o'clock in
the morning. We had a lateflight, like because I worked on Friday.
I worked until six and then Idrove up to Regina after work and
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we flew out of like nine fortyat night. Out of Reagina the Calgary
it's like an hour and fifty minuteflight. So we got there at about
you lose an hour, so wegot we got we got in our hotel
at like eleven o'clock. We wentand got some food whatever, went had
a beer. Being't get to bedtill like probably like close to two Saskatchewan
times. So we're tired, andme and my dad were like, hey,
we're not going to set alarms,like, we'll just wake up when
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we wake up, go downstairsy breakfast. So my dad goes down like eight
thirty and I woke up about Iwoke up about maybe ten fifteen minutes later,
and I was just I was gettingdressed whatever. So I walked downstairs
about nine o'clock and I turned tomy right. I see a guy,
a bald guy. I'm like lookingover I double take. I'm like,
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let's Rick Talcket. So I goover there, shook his hands like,
hey, Rick, how's it going. Blake fries here from Saskatchewan. Oh
no, I did No. Iwas like I was like, hey,
like nice to meet him, abig Canucks fan from Saskatchewan. And he's
like, oh, like nice,like what made you Canucks man? We
were just like talk. We talkedlike ten minutes and he's just he's he's
a cool dude. I mean,we're just we're just talking hockey. We
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talked about the West Coast Express,talked about some of his Pittsburgh days when
he was playing with the Auger,and uh yeah, it was It's pretty
insightful, pretty insightful, dude.Do you give any betting advice? Yeah,
he didn't go down on that road, no, but uh no,
it was just cool to just ameet a guy like that. And then
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literally an hour later, I'm onthe seventh floor and we're going down and
all of a sudden, Peterson,Hoglander and Garland walk into my elevator.
I'm just like Jesus, like what'sgoing on here? And I was like,
hey, like mat if I geta quick picture? And then yeah,
like make it quick, like takethe picture. No, my dad
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took the picture. Carland was likehe Garland was like behind like he was
like he was like walking towards theelevator. We couldn't do so anyway,
Like, yeah, make it quick, guy, we're heading to the bust
of the Morgan Skins. I gotno problem whatever, and then just like
said make it quick. I waslike, hey, what's up. So
however, we just took a quickpicture and no, it was cool.
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It was it was. It wasa good trip Vancouver. Uh played a
good game. Probably should have beenlike for to one, it should have
been probably for one. Mark simactually didn't play too bad. Probably probably
should have had the first one,let the first shot on goal. Again
classic Markstrom. But uh, yeahno, it was nice. I like
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sitting up top in the Saladom,like sitting up in the second level in
the saldum. You see the wholelife better. Yeah. No, it
was a good game. That wasmy first time at the Saladom since twenty
nineteen, and so it's good.It's gonna get me back. Well,
quick business trip for two points.Beat just goes on for old knuckleheads.
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Hey, but your numbers are nottrend eeding as well as you can't sustain
four point five goals a game.Everybody in God's green Earth knows that.
So what are you think of todo? All star game? Bring them
back to the draft. That's good. I hope that. I hope the
last person gets a car again.It's good. I hope they tell I
hope they televise it too. It'sgood. Well, why would they not
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why would they do it and nottelevise it. Well, I'm just saying,
like, it's it's cool, it'sit gets it's gets fans engaged.
It's good. They're gonna make money. They're gonna make money. Who's the
last pick? And the if angeland draft and the whole star game.
They're gonna beat on it more moneythan after. After Blake's super long intro
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with Canucks story, just making somegood conversation here. Man, that's longer
than you got to talk to thoseguys. So let's let's roll into the
show. Here. We got thequarter mark, standing to talk about zador
Off trade, Tyson Berry, Habs, goltending, Wilds, fire and hire
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a coach, some vicious slashes,cane signs, and the Perry disaster.
All we got a jam pack show. All right, we got a look
at the split. We gotta getto it, man. We got a
lot to talk about. Thanksgiving uscoming gone. We're to the quarter mark
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of the season, and let's talkabout where the teams kind of sit and
we kind of compared to our predictions. It's a little early for our predictions
to be handing out, but Ido have them in front of me just
in case we need to reference them. But the quarter mark, let's start
in the East. We always startin the East, and let's get her
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going with the Atlantic right away.Is Boston's up on top? Uh that's
wait wait wait wait wait wait?Did you take this like during the Thanksgiving
Oh no, this is a quartermark. This is from last night.
I snapshot of the sty shit.I wrote the standings down. I put
the wrong divisions. My bad.And you know what, Let's do this
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just so our listener and actually ourviewers can see. Our listeners don't need
to see, because what the hellare they going to see. Let's go
like this and switch this around andthere it is so they can see.
That's the wild card format. Yeah. Yeah, let's talk a little bit
about this. We'll go through eachdivision quickly. Uh, Boston on top
in the Atlantic. Yeah. Ilike this. I like this. I
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can see you on my screen.That's good. I like this. It's
good stuff. Florida sits in second. A little bit of a surprises both
for me. I had Florida downa little bit this year. You had
them up there, but you hadBoston down a little bit. Detroit sits
in third. This is a chakerfor both of us, as we both
had them way down the list ofFreut's been good. They're sustaining. That's
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what surprises me a little bit isthat they're sustaining good play from a lot
of players well, and they're gettinggood golden from like from Rhymer too.
Yep. I always liked him.He was he's a gamer. He's a
gamer. He's a gamer, forsure. He's a gamer. Toronto sits
in a fourth. The one statwith Toronto is how many of their games
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have went too extra. They havefive out of the twelve wins five regulation
wins. Yeah. Five, let'suh, let's go over. That's all
of these Sharks have six. That'snot good, I know. But at
least they are winning and they aregetting points. You know, they're like
that opposite what Calgary did last year. This is exactly what Calgary did last
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year the point, you know whatI mean. So it's a mirror image
Tampa Bay. They sit in fifthright now, and that's a team that's
got to be worrying a little bitas they are getting another win tonight,
so they'll be Hey, listen though, listen, okay, if you would,
if you were to tell Tampa Baywho when the season started, if
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you were to tell them, hey, at American Thanksgiving slash just start of
December, we're gonna be without Vassilewskifor two months, but we're all gonna
be out of the playoff picture bythree points. They would have taken that
and ram with it because you didn'tknow what you're with. Johansson, you
didn't know what you're again, heget their head above war. He did
great for them, he did,he was fine. I agree, I
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agree. I think you would havetaken that ten, ten, ten and
five. Sure, you're not evenyour guy back. You got your guy
back, your your leader, youyour Vesna guy. They're fine. But
I think they're fine. I meanI I had them doing okay this year.
They are allowing a little a littletoo much goals that I would expect
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a little leaky. Yeah yeah,did you see the game against Dallas.
Shit they got smoked eight one.Yeah, Well that's gonna happen. Every
team has night. I mean Ikind of throw those in the garbage.
Yeah, Montreal sits at six.Buffalo, you had this year being the
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Buffalo's year to go make the playoffs. I don't think that's happening, Blake.
They are struggling. There was sittingwith twenty well Devin Leeve, I
got sent down. It's like,I don't know, man, it's they're
just not scoring. Tage Thompson's justnot the finishers to start this year that
he was last year. Cousins Cousinshas not been good. I don't know.
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There's a lot of a lot ofmixed mixed bag with that. Ottawa
sits an in last and this onesurprises me. You picked them to finish
third. I did. I did, And I still think they're going to
improve a lot. I just they'renot getting just I don't know. They've
had so many things happen in thatorganization. There's so there's too many distractions.
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Yeah, you know it is callme Blake. It lately had has
been better. Yeah, but they'restill they're still called for Smith's head.
I think Smith gets fired in thenext week. Honestly, I was talking
with my dad and I'm like,listen, if they lose tonight against Seattle,
he's getting fired tomorrow. I don'tthink they're losing tonight, but no,
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no, no, it's Saturday,Saturday. Yeah, they beat Seattle
three to one or something five andit was a shutout. They shut out
Forestburg get a shutout that night.Yeah, corporusal hasn't been great. But
on over to the metro. NewYork Rangers sit atop there. We're both
had New York as one of thebetter teams. Carolina sits in second.
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We both had them up at thetowards the top. Philly sits in third,
obviously one that shocks us both becauseI had Philly way at the bottom
and you did two. Washington isa team that sits in fourth right now.
I don't see this being sustainable.They're getting throttled again tonight. This
team just is They're just offensively.This team is not making the I don't
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think they're gonna make the layaffs.I don't either. They currently sit in
a playoff spot at the quarter marktheir third right, they're third. They
did drop the fourth tonight, butthey did this. Our graphic is from
last night to end the place.Okay, yeah, yeah yeah, uh
Islanders sitting fifth. The other teamhaving a hell of a time scorer in
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this year. Pittsburgh sits in sixth. New Jersey is going on with my
devils. How every time you pickthem blake to do well. They don't.
I know, I'm gonna start gettinghate mail like you got hate mail
from the Hurricanes. I'm gonna I'mgonna tell you a story about what my
theory on the Devils is. CanI go back to Calgary and I'll relate
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it to Seattle This year when youhave teams that have guys that all have
career years, yeah, that isextremely hard to replicate the next year.
Seattle is having it this year.They had career year upon career year.
New Jersey had that last year.It's hard to replicate. Hang on Vancouver
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next year, it's hard to stopwith the jobs. Stop with the jobs.
They're not even in the Western Conference. Let's stay on task here,
Let's stay on task. Columbus sitsin eighth. I don't think that's okay.
Let's go back to the Devils.What the think's going on? They're
not getting their v tech vanchick hasn'tbeen very good. Let's just call a
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spade of spae. Their goaltending hasnot been that good. They're young,
and what they added, I meanyou added as much as I like Tyler
Defoley. I mean you're adding suchan aged slower player. I don't know.
I mean, the dude can putthe puck in the next guy,
he's not twelve goals. He does, and he definitely is not the reason
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they're sitting in the spot they are, that's for darn sure. But they're
not, like I don't know,they're just their power player is good this
year. It's like, well,also Jack hugheses all log chunk of that,
Like he missed what two weeks,two, three weeks, two weeks.
So yeah, but that doesn't thatdoesn't move you up six slots in
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the standings. Yeah, but whenyou miss your when you miss your heart
and soul of the team, everybody'sgot to step up. And they haven't
really had anybody do that. Ijust think it's it's it's hard to have
everybody play at that same pace theydid last year. That that's hard.
Yeah, it's really hard. Suchgiers on over to the Western Conference and
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we'll talk Central versus. Colorado sitsthe top right now with thirty two points,
followed by Dallas and then Winnipeg.I think you know, Colorado and
Dallas we both had one two.I had Winnipeg third. So I've got
this division nailed. Right on themoney so far, but there's where it
changes as a team. First,I guess my question is, is Winnipeg
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surprise you a bit? I mean, the last couple of years, I
haven't really been high on them.Obviously, they're talented. Everybody knows that
they got one of the best goaltendersin the league. They make the playoffs.
We both did, so we didn'tWe both had him in the playoffs.
Okay, I I think I havehim in wild card, right yep?
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Ye, all right? Uh yeahno o. A guy uh.
A guy that's been a big surprisefor me is Cole Profetti. He's been
He's been a really good player forthem. He's on a tear right now
that he's got like eight goals thislast nine games or something like crazy like
that, so he's given him abig boost. They just extended NDO Nina
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Ryder today, a pretty decent deal. Yeah. I think it's it's been
a They were without their coach fora big stretch and and they actually played
well in his absence, which wasgood. Good to see. I had
there on a Coyotes sitting in fifth, You had them in sixth. They
sit currently in fourth and are winningagain tonight. They he did you see
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the stat? Did you see thatstat? They have beat the last five
Stanley Cup champions in the last fivegames. Like how Like what a crazy
coincidence? That is, Eh,crazy that your schedule would be that.
But yeah, they're they're they're they'replaying well like they're they are. They're
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a young team, but they've they'veadded some some vets. They spent a
little money. We talked about inthe in the start of the season that
they were going to be a respectableteam, and they are. They've been.
They've been a respectable team. They'renot the laughing stock of the league
anymore, which is good to seethem go out and spend money and not
like in previous years where they justspent to the floor and just took on
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bad money. That's why we callthem the Arizona money Launders, right,
Like, I'm just saying, likethey they're a respectable team and it's good
to see. We don't love thatthey're playing in a five thousand dollars or
five one thousand seed arena, butI think at least they're putting a respectable
product on the on the ice.I have a prediction for what happens there,
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and I think they get moved thisnext year. But that being said,
Connor Ingram has been really really he'sbeen. He's gonna nine to five
save and winning some very very big, tight, close, hard fought games.
He's coming through for them. He'sbeen well, he's well. He
was a second or second or thirdround pick when he was drafted in and
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he's finally getting a chance to bethe guy and he's he's taking it and
running with it. It's good,good for him. Good Sasky boy,
good Sasky boy, Saint Louis.It's in fifth, Nashville, sixth,
Minnesota. Let's talk about when wehave one with these guys. They're Minnesota
has been like this forever though.They're a hard team, boring, boring
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style, boring play, They struggleto score goals. They they rely on
their defense and goaltender to win themgames. That's that's that's that's the Minnesota
way. And right now they can'tkeep the Parker other net, they're not.
Gusson has hasn't been as good andare can you really rely on a
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thirty eight year old Mark Andre Fleuryto carry the load when he's not playing
well probably not right. They firedDean Everison. Uh is it his fault?
Probably not. I think he's avery good coach. He's a great
coach. He's a great coach.But they they it came down to they
didn't have success in the playoffs andthey're they're off to a bad start,
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and sometimes you can't fire the players. So who gets the blame? Right?
Uh? In Edmonton, was itwas it what's his name? What's
his name? Uh? Woodcroft,Woodcraft? Was it his fault that McDavid
was producing at a seventy point pace? No, But that's that's what happens.
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Right. Let's switch on over tothe Pacific as Vegas hits the top
with thirty six points, Vancouver sitsat thirty three in LA at thirty one.
They at the one two three lockdown. Not a whole bunch of surprise
there other than one team missing thatwe both had winning the division and Vancouver
slides up. We both had beenfifth. Let's talk a little bit.
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Fourth to fifth is Calgary and Seattle. Anaheim hits in sixth. Edmonton sits
in seventh, but have been winnersin their last four, seven and three
in their last ten, with anunder their new coach is Edmonton, obviously
on the upswing. The question ishow far will that upswing bring them?
Well, I mean you look attheir they're twelve points behind. They're twelve
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points behind third place. Well,okay, so let's go right now,
what are they six points have aplayoff spot the second wild card. Pretty
significant gap between a wild card though, in the top three in the Pacific.
That's what twelve points? Twelve fourteenpoints? I'm not saying they're dead,
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but where did you get this twelveor fourteen points from well Edmonton to
Vancouver? Was that's fourteen points?Uh, they're twelve points in LA.
Calgary is unless the unless these standingsare are off, Calgary is eight back
of LA. Yeah, no,I'm talking about I'm talking about Edmonton right
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now. Yeah, we're talking aboutEdmonton. Like that's I got a question
for you. Neither one of ussaw Vancouver getting off to this start,
and Vancouver currently sits second place.They're sixteen eighty at thirty three points.
They're three back of Vegas, whichis very close, but for that good
of a start, Yeah, didyou not? I mean I look at
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the they're well they're six and they'resix and six or last twelve. So
yeah, but they're probably when youlook at that, and LA sits at
two points back of them, soone game back with four games in hand,
so theoretically I would say that LAis gonna least win one of those.
So I mean they're Vancouver is sittingin third for most purposes here until
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the LA catches up a little bit. Is that not kind of upset you
as a Vancouver fan to be inthird place? No, dude, you're
na in this solid of a start. I mean, okay, yeah,
you still got a you still gota ten point cushion on Calgary, Like
you're that's five wins. That's you'vecreated. You've created, You've created a
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cushion for yourself in case you dohave a four and four and six ten
games, like you know what Imean, like they've Uh no, no
knuck fan is upset at this start. I mean it's upset that that you're
in third or second or third.No, I mean you should almost be
higher with how well you've played.Yeah, that's that's just how good Vegas
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has been. There. They theythey're showing why they're the champs and why
they should be respected. LA islike that too. I love watching LA
late at night. Now there's sucha fun team to watch and really fun
Trevor Moore man, wouldn't he lookgood in the team like the Trono may
Police right now? Boy, whata what a what a misplace of management
that was? But uh, yousee the goal he scored last night?
(27:32):
I did not. I don't watchhockey on Sunday night. Kick the puck
out of the corner, took itto the net short side shelf. I'll
send it to you after the pod. Is nice goal. So let's quickly
go through the East and the Westand say who's gonna move out of a
playoff spot? Who's gonna move in? I in the East, I have
Washington probably falling out of a playoffspot. I think Detroit's gonna hold their
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own and sticky in there. Isee Tampa Bay moving up and getting into
a playoff spot. I just don'tknow if New Jersey can. There're three
points out, Brady, I know, I know, Okay, I'm going
to go. I am going uh. I will say, I will say
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Detroit, Detroit is out. Torontowill take Detroit spot, and I will
take that. I will take theDevils to take the capitol spot for the
wild card rong. I mean,what about the Islanders. Are the Islanders
going to stick? Ah? No, I only think the Islanders are in.
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How about as we look over tothe west, I think Colorado,
Dallas, and Winnipeg are pretty locked. I would say LA sounds pretty locked
to me. Uh, wild card. I could almost roll the dice.
I you could almost roll the dice. I think it's going to be Edmonton.
I will say right now, Ithink Edmonton, Arizona. I don't
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know. I think it's gonna beEdmonton, and I want to say Arizona,
but I feel like I'll be onfreezing cold takes real quick now.
Wouldn't be a smart The easy betwould be to go with a team like
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Saint Louis. I don't see thathappening at all. I don't know.
We picked him so down the stangsup. They've been fine, they've been
whatever. Okay, Yeah, Idon't know. It's gonna be interesting.
We will evaluate again at the halfwaypoint. It is time to hit fast
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forward and go around to the leaguequickly quickly. Version Barramlee, A lot's
talk about I'm gonna roll through it. Really fast with you. Zadorov gets
traded, Calgary gets a third,in twenty twenty six a fifth, and
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twenty twenty four Vancouver gets Nikita Zadoroff. Yeah, yeah, it's uh.
It's a good pick up for theCanucks that there is a team that's battling
some injuries on the back end.Very very nice, tidy piece of business
cat management by the Canucks. Theyflipped a four point one million dollar villier
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who was producing uh eight eight pointsin twenty five games playing fourth line minutes.
They flipped him, got rid ofhis money to Chicago and flipped that
pick. They got back plus athird round pick, and brought in a
four or five d man. Soyeah, it's it's good. He adds
a lot of size to uh toa decoor that it's already pretty big.
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Once he gets Susie back, it'sall of a sudden it's looking like a
pretty good defense. I had tolaugh. I heard a guy on sports
I you told he wasn't gonna getbooed. That guy got booted every time
he touched the down buck. Iknew that was gonna You told me he's
not getting booed. You said,they don't really care. The guy's not
gonna want to be there. Whocares? He doesn't want to be there,
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doesn't want to be there. Iknew he was gonna get booed.
It was loud, dude, youknow what I mean? Whatever, But
I will I you know, Ithink it's funny. I don't love him
with Tyler Myers. I will goon record saying that I do. I
don't love him with Tyler Myers.Well I do, actually, as long
as as long as they're your bottompairing. See, I think Zadorf's a
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great five six, and honestly,I think Tyler Myers is a pretty good
five to six. I think they'vebeen miscast. Not in Calgary. Zadoroff
didn't get miscast, but then hegot pissed off because he was a first
round pick and he thinks he's atwo three right, Okay, but hear
me finish, look hear me out. When Myers was in Winnipeg, he
was a third line pairing and didfine. He comes to Vancouver and unfortunately
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Vancouper did not have a good defenseand they had to push him up the
thing and then he struggles. Hegoes on to that bottom three or that
bottom two. He's a fine,He's fine. But you know, I
I heard you're paying him six milthough, but you gotta you gotta take
that. You know, he's fine, he's fine. I would rather Myers
play with a guy like Susie andyou can play Zadora with Ian Cole.
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I would rather that because for me, I feel like Zadorov and Tyler Myers
are too similar. They both liketo jump up and join the rush,
and you need a defensive guy withboth of those guys. But if you
can do like Calgary did with Dabranson, that's true. Branton's that stay home
guy. Have him be stay athome guys and be that big line of
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defense that they'd be tough. Idid hear one. I heard a funny
one. It's the Zadorf and Myerstogether are seventeen feet of zero hockey sense.
Okay, that's why. Is thatfrom your burner account? No,
that's your I do think think thatZadoroff is a is a good acquisition by
the Canucks, But I do alsothink that Vancouver fans are forgetting some of
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the struggles that Zadoroff does have.No he he turns the punck over,
he goes for a big hit andmisses sometimes. Yeah, I mean yeah
for sure. Yeah, he takessome penleyes he took. He took a
dumb one against Calgary, is whatis. I didn't think he looked that
bad for a guy that he's gotfourteen goals last year fourteen. Okay,
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don't forget though that three of themin the final game against a meaningless game
against San Jose. Okay, stilleleven goals is a d man? Pretty
damn pretty still pretty good. Well, let me know how that goes for
you. We will. Tyson BarryNashville has been given permission to talk to
other teams, like, what's upwith sidor off Ed Barry? Why are
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they on so many teams? Idon't know. I means been on Buffalo,
Chicago, Colorado and Barry has beenthe Nashville Edison team. I know,
but holy no, fourteen fourteen fourteenEdmonton, Toronto, Uh, Colorado
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and Nashville. I know. Butwhy these guys are why he's just he's
not very good defenseman anymore. Well, no, but there's a lot of
not very good. Here's the thing, here's the thing. Where does Tyson
Barry? Where is he most valuableon the power play. He ain't getting
power play time with the Roman Yosion the team. He's he doesn't fit
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that scheme. He needs to play. It's the same reason why he didn't
work in Toronto, because Morgan Rileyran the power play. He struggled.
He he was the number one quarterbackof the power play until Evan Bouchard took
that over, so they ship himout. He was a number one quarterback
in Colorado. He was fine.He needs he is more engaged when he
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gets to all this power play time, and I feel like he's more engaged.
He plays very defensively. He's notgetting power play time then, and
he and he's isolated and struggling.I agree with he somewhere where he can
be a quarterback on a power playand he will thrive. He he has
in two of the four places he'sbeen. The other two he struggled because
he didn't plan the power play.Is he making four point five? I
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don't know. I don't know,that's the question. I guess you know,
that'll be interesting to see how ButI think I think he needs to
be a quarterback on the power play. So I get a question for you.
Montreal Canadians extend mountain to say hislast Mantimbau, Mandumbau can't do it
today? Three years, three pointone five? Yeah, Hello, what's
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going on here? Why? Why? Wait a minute? Why you know?
What's wrong with this deal? What'swrong with that? Maltimbo has been
he's been excellent the last year anda half, three point five for three
years. I think it's gonna bethat's gonna be a great deal. He
has a nine ten, say percentageon a pretty pissboard Montreal team. He's
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been just fine. He ain't thereason why they're losing games. I'm not
saying that at all, but it'sI mean, he's a he's a gap
stop until you can for the nextthree years, until you can find somebody
there. He's twenty seven years old. By the time the contract's over,
you're thirty and you're hoping that much. If you're Montreal, you can either
draft a goaltender, you go outand get you get one after three years.
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It's easy. If he's fine,they're rebuilding. They're rebuilding for the
next three years anyway, So what'sthe big deal? Just I thought that
was a little I don't know.No, that's not too bad. Jake
Allen's gone after this year anyway,Cayden, Primu and Maltibo is gonna be
the guys next year. It's okay. Minnesota fire. We touched on this
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earlier, so we won't touch onit much now. But they fire.
Did you even send higher? JohnHeinz Hinds yet? I don't know.
This move to me just seems likeyou thought they should have brought back girl
Sutter. Eh joking, I'm joking, but uh Do I think Hines is
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the answer there? Probably not.I don't know. They're they're what three
and all with Hines two and all? I know three? I believe I
never can tell what Minnesota is gonnado. They're they're the most unpredictable team
in the league. I think theyare one of them. You don't know
if you're gonna explode for six,you're gonna lose five nothing, You just
don't know. So a couple ofquick slash things I want to talk about
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some slashes. Do you see Trubaslashes Frederick in the head gets stop it?
Did you see both angles stop it? He was just his stick.
Frederick was holding his damn stick andhe was just trying to get it away
and he actually hit him in thehead. How about speaking of funny ones,
how about connecting and Brandon Smith isconnect He just gets Mama hawked when
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he had it coming because he heI didn't see it. I look it
up on YouTube. He just getstomahawked. The one I did want to
talk to you about is I watchedthat huge hit that sent him into the
boards right from Garner Hathaway. I'msorry, I don't even see a penalty.
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Dude. It was a fucking icing. You can't do that. The
whistle went for icing. You can'thit a guy when the whistle goes for
icing and blow him up after thewhistle. You can't do that. Blow
him up. He did too.That Hughes is standing there, he's not.
He's he's not thinking he's gonna gethit. He just won the race
for ricing. Nobody is getting Nobodyis thinking about getting hit after the raft
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blows the whistle of icing. That'sbush league, that's bullshit. So how
come nothing happened to him? It'sbulls He should have got suspended. That's
dirty, dude. It's not it'snot that it was a dirty hit,
it's then it was an after anicing, it's after an icing. It's
bush league, it's bush leak.It's bush league. It is. You
can't. You can't do that afterwhen the ref blow. That's why they
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went to the no touch icing toget rid of that ship. Bro.
So when when when are people goingto be accountable though for protecting themselves at
some point? Okay, dude,okay, so you win the race.
I'm not alone. You win therace. You're you're automatically, You're automatically
just supposed to be ready to gethit mehan, you know, come on,
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I'm not alone in this opinion onthis one. I see one of
people say that, this one,including the coach, Tordoerella is saying I
don't get it. I don't getthis. Okay, but the whistle went
for icing, so the play isdead. You don't. You don't hit
a guy they hit already came beforethe whistle. It did not. Watch
it again, No, it didnot. I will, I'll have to
watch it again. Whistle goes andthen he hits him. It's bush leak,
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it is, And I didn't likeit. Detroit Science, Patrick Kane,
were you surprised this? No?He reunites with the brink at they
were a really good duo, andin Chicago they get him at a discount
of price of what three point fivefor one year one year or two one
year. So yeah, I thinkhe's I think he's going to be ready
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to play in four or five games. You just get ramped up. Yeah,
this is a good pickup for it'sa good pickup for Detroit. Anything
that he does is gravy. You'renot really having max Zack expectations to see
see what he can do. We'llsee it happens. I don't mind it.
I want to quickly touch on thisbefore we get to three questions.
The Corey Perry thing. We didn'tget a chance to talk about that.
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The only thing I want to sayabout this is the way our society is
now about protecting. Not the victimwe protect, we protect the perpetrators and
everything nowadays in society. If wewould have just if the if the team
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would have just came out and saidwhat Perry did, listen, we could
have stopped a ton of rumors anda ton ton of hurt for the Badard
family. The fact that the ChicagoBlackhawks let those rumors just circulate on Twitter
for three days almost four days ispathetic. I'm sorry. As soon as
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those rumors started, a statement shouldhave been out and said Corey Perry had
nothing to do with any family memberon the team or anything. Done.
Squash rumors are done. But no, they let him circulate and then and
then the press conference comes out andnan he says it three days later.
Come on, it's gotta be done. As soon as those rumors start up,
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the statement out on social media.Done, done. Just tell us
what happened. I don't know,because there's an investigation. I don't know.
We don't know what's involved. Imean they said it's not criminal,
Like what the hell? I don'tknow? In today's world, why don't
we? I don't know? Soinstead, this poor family had to deal
with this BS for a week andif we had just known what was going
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on everybody. It just doesn't makesense to me. But something that does
make sense to me. Apparel Bandits. You need to go on and check
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sweatshirts, hats, everything, getyour whole team outfitted. Apparel Bandits dot
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com and Blake. You know whattime it is? It is time.
It is time for three questions,an addition of three questions that I hopefully
you are ready for. I'm interestedto see you got it. Here's three
questions. It's time. We're threequestions. Viral wauh is the call to
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race more exciting than people originally thought. I uh know, I thought that
Logan Cooley and a bunch of otherguys would be giving Conor Berard a little
bit or run, although I wouldsay the Connor Bedard has been very,
very good. What's your thoughts beenon brock Faber? Very good? He's
good. I like his game alot. But but what Butard's doing is
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he's got a what ten goals isfirst? Uh? Eleven goals in twenty
some games? Pretty damn good.What's your biggest surprise player in the first
quarter of the year Johnny Goodreau.No, seriously, all that talent and
he can't put a point up.It's pretty surprising. Yeah, I went
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with Profetti. I went with Profettihere because I didn't think he would be
this good this early. I canbe as surprised with bad as I can
good Right, who is your goodsurprise, but you got a good surprise
player Connor Ingram, you knew whoyou knew who was another good one.
And I'm so happy for the guys. Brock Besser leads the league with seventeen
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goals. He had sixteen goals allyear last year. The stuff that you
guys are Canucks were ready to givethis guy away for water bottles, what
little they were literally getting away forfree. They were going to dude,
they were ready to give this guyaway for free. And now he leaves
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aheng goals. It's it's an awesomestory. You won't end the year with
that. But no, I'm justsaying, but for a guy who had
sixteen goals last year and now he'sat seventeen, all the stuff he went
through, I'm a happy for him. Okay, favorite player to watch in
the league right now? Favorite playerin the league to watch right now?
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I can name some teams, probablymore than quicker than players. Who is
That's a really good question. Whois my favorite player to watch? You
want to know who I love watching? You know what you know? Yeah,
but you want to know who myfavorite player to watch is because he
always intrigues me, because I thinkhe's he's so forgotten in this league?
(45:10):
Is is mirro Heyskin in Dallas?Forgotten? Forgotten? Who forgotten? Now
he's hardly talked about outside of Dallas, He's hardly talked about. He's hardly
talked about. Think about it,Yeah, I mean they do talk about
Hughes and mccar a lot right now. You ever hear his name, he's
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back pages. I mean he's youhear Hughes mccarr guy, you'll see had
been you know? And oh yeah? And then he that younger Hayskinning kid
in Dallas. I mean, holyshit, this kid. I I love
watching him play. I love watchingI love watching Coo Trout too. The
guy just continues to just just destroyplayers. I love watching Nathan McKinnon when
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he's in a mode, when he'smad, when he's pissed off and just
takes takes the puck up behind thenend, just gallops all the way down
the ice. I know I wouldn'twant to play a pissed off McKinnon either.
How many times this year this soundscrazy, but how many times this
year when you've been watching Edmonton haveyou seen Warren Fogel and think it was
McDavid because he's number thirty seven andhe's a big body and everyone's whim but
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you know what, he's an underratedplayer for them. He's a good he's
a good hockey player. Yeah,listener, question comes from Eric Larson,
and you got to listen to this. Now. Where's he from? Where's
he from? He's a friend ofmine actually, and he posed this question
to me one day of work becausewe talk sports all the time. And
I told him, I'm like,I got to use this because this is
(46:42):
good. What's his name? EricLarson? Okay, so listen, all
hockey jerseys are the best jerseys inall of sports. If you could only
buy one more for the rest ofyour life, what team would it be,
style would it be? And whatplayer would be on the back?
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I would go with uh a skatein the rink white Marcus Naslan nineteen on
the back. He's on my favoritehere's all my favorite players growing up,
white, the old white skate withthat with a V on the side.
Yeah, that's a good one.All right, all right? What about
(47:30):
you? Have you asked the questionto answer? I don't even know.
I mean, feel flurry, Ialready got it. If I had to
pick, I'd picked the eighty ninewhite Field Flurry fourteen. I kind of
know you too well, But howdo I know you're gonna I already have
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it, but I already have that. Another jersey that I don't have,
that I still cannot believe I havenever bought is the Old Red e nineteen
eighty nine year the Red al mckinness. Yeah, that's a good one.
That's what I'm surprised. I've nevernever broke down in bot but yeah,
those are mine, those are minethat stand out to me. It's so
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last week, it was a niceweekend. I was feeling better. I
watched a little bit more live hockey. I didn't have any games, or
I didn't get to go to anylive hockey because there was really nothing going
on in our area. So Iactually got to sit down, settled them
on Friday night and Saturday and havesome college hockey and Friday night watching off
and some pro watch a ton ofpro hockey on Saturday night. It was
(48:35):
great. There was a lot ofreally good games, a lot of a
lot of fun games. Sunday Ididn't watch any games, right, Why
why is it unless my team playsSunday. I don't watch any hockey on
Sundays NS and I'm not a bigfootball guy, so I don't know why
that is. It just I wakeup in the morning Sunday morning, watch
all the highlights from the weekend,and that's that's I get on Sunday.
So I don't know. It's goodsome business, big games. Just we
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can add ball, all right,Hockey fans, enjoy this week's hockey action.
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It is time to talk to NHLHockey. It is time to the Debate
Hockey podcast. I'm hostly Joe bradBrude, going alongside my poles each and
every week like friars and it isuh. Yeah, we had a week
out yet last week with all kindsof different things as I, uh high
battled a little COVID and you,uh you what did you have? You
(00:44):
I had? Why didn't Well,yeah, I had hockey and either well
I wasn't really feeling great, NoI was. It was kind of brutal,
but uh and then and then Ijust went to Calgary. Uh this
weekend and uh now I'm back,but I had docs are playing today,
so I wasn't sure if it's gonnamake it, but here we are.
(01:06):
Episode was this two thirty five?Yeah, sometimes it seems like it should
be more, and sometimes it seemslike it should be less. What did
you do like thirty thirty a season? About thirty four Between thirty and four
thirty five a season on average,I would say just every week during the
regular season, and then every weekduring the postseason, and then once twice
(01:30):
a month during the offseason. Yeah, yeah, just enough to give us
a little break to reset a littlebit before we get going. I gotta
get your opinion on something here quick. There's a bunch of teams in the
WHL. I don't know if you'veseen this, but they changed their name
for one night and they had likea name significant to their city and had
(01:52):
new jerseys and new merchandise and everything. And I saw there was there was
one last week and I can't rememberthe name was Clever. It was somebody
out west and I can't think ofthe name. But I did see that
the Brandon and Wheat Kings did itthis weekend and they were the on Friday
night against the Regina Pats. Theywere the Wheat City Walleye and they actually
(02:15):
they had jerseys for that. Yeah, like they had a logo and let
me see here I can I'm gonnado it on the flyer and see.
If I can't, I wouldn't beable to pull it up. I don't
have a graphic of it, butuh, yeah, they had jerseys and
everything. And uh, they're notthe only team doing it. There's a
multiple teams that are doing it.And hell, I don't know, maybe
(02:37):
Brandon should do it every night.They just throttled the Pats six or eight
to one or something crazy that night. That's a that's a cool that's a
cool logo. Yeah, it's kindof different. It's kind of cool.
And I mean they still tied inthe Wheat City and I don't know,
I don't I don't know. It'sa little NBA ish, But I don't
hate this. I don't hate.It's creative. Yeah, it's not terrible.
(03:00):
It's different. Yeah, I don'tknow the other name. I can't
think of what it was, butit was freaking really cool. It was
something like it is like a fish, and it was also like a fish,
but it was a different aledo.No, it's a w h L
team and like it was a longIt was a name of a fish I
(03:20):
hadn't heard of before. But Idon't know. Kristin Jarry scores a goal
the other night, does that getyou excited anymore? Or is that on
or off for you? Uh?Yeah, it's cool. It's it's rare.
It doesn't happen very often. It'scool. Like I used to.
I remember that. I remember whenRon Hextall did it. I was just
like, oh, you know,this is amazing. And now you remember
(03:46):
when you when you remember when Martydid it in the playoffs. I was
pretty good. I was pretty legit. He was jumping up and down.
The best one, the best oneby far in my life. I at
least is is Jose Theater behind thatwhere he turned his stick around and shot
and flipped the puck from behind thatI was And who else? Who else
did that? Oh? Duane Rolisonused to do that too. You should
(04:10):
put his glove up top and hisblocker on the bottom. Yeah, yeah,
I don't know. I mean it'scool. It's just it's one of
those things. Another thing I sawthis week for the first time I've never
seen before official calls, like someroughing calls and a couple of slashes or
something, and everybody gets a misconduct. I was like, I was like,
(04:35):
all right, I mean it wasthe audible Florida game, right,
No, yeah, it was fourit was four and nothing. There was
like six minutes left and he's like, everybody ice, you're gone. I
was like, all right, Ithought it was cool. It was good.
It was actually super smart, don'tyou think. Yeah, all the
game somehow knocked out of the hand. But I know you hate it.
(04:59):
I know, oh you hated wallI'm and Sally on Saturday, and it
was awesome. It was awesome.Did you just say I didn't know?
I know you you're a traditionalist.You don't like celebrations. You don't like
celebrations. No, I just actlike you've done it. I mean,
I don't know. I don't mindcelebration, and you're act like he's done
it. He's done that celebration beforehe's mastered it. It's awesome in that
(05:25):
fashion, nude ever you want.If you score an overtime winner, I'm
like, okay with it. Ifit's an it's like a one one No,
Like, you can't be doing that. I'm sorry. I just can't
give the times he've done it otwinners. That's okay. I can live
with it. I can live withthat. I lived with you and and
(05:46):
the best thing about it is itactually was a good gritty like like you
like it was a that was agood one, like he does it good.
But you know, I just don'tlike it, Like I I despise
the or the NFL when they celebratethese stupid skit bullshit. God, that's
a that's hard to score. Inthe NFL. Touchdowns are hard to come
(06:06):
by. Man, Oh break,what do you mean? They get millions?
And I know, dude, butI'm just saying, like it's hard
to score a touchdown in the league. Oh, it's all right. So
you went up to Calgary this week, and I'm sure you then probably it's
(06:29):
got a full screen here. What'sgoing on? Yeah? What's there?
There? He is? That's cool, cool story. You were taking that
picture. Did you happen to askPetterson how much she's gonna We didn't have
much. We had maybe a littlebit left in there, but no,
it was good. We stay atthe Sheridan in downtown Calgary, and you
(06:53):
know it's free complimary breakfast, anduh that's why. Yeah, yeah,
I have free breakfast. Anyway,So I went down there a little late,
so my dad went down there atabout eight thirty because we didn't we
didn't get to bed. We didn'tget back to like to two o'clock in
the morning. We had a lateflight, like because I worked on Friday.
I worked until six and then Idrove up to Regina after work and
(07:15):
we flew out of like nine fortyat night. Out of Reagina the Calgary
it's like an hour and fifty minuteflight. So we got there at about
you lose an hour, so wegot we got we got in our hotel
at like eleven o'clock. We wentand got some food whatever, went had
a beer. Being't get to bedtill like probably like close to two Saskatchewan
times. So we're tired, andme and my dad were like, hey,
we're not going to set alarms,like, we'll just wake up when
(07:36):
we wake up, go downstairsy breakfast. So my dad goes down like eight
thirty and I woke up about Iwoke up about maybe ten fifteen minutes later,
and I was just I was gettingdressed whatever. So I walked downstairs
about nine o'clock and I turned tomy right. I see a guy,
a bald guy. I'm like lookingover I double take. I'm like,
(07:58):
let's Rick Talcket. So I goover there, shook his hands like,
hey, Rick, how's it going. Blake fries here from Saskatchewan. Oh
no, I did No. Iwas like I was like, hey,
like nice to meet him, abig Canucks fan from Saskatchewan. And he's
like, oh, like nice,like what made you Canucks man? We
were just like talk. We talkedlike ten minutes and he's just he's he's
a cool dude. I mean,we're just we're just talking hockey. We
(08:22):
talked about the West Coast Express,talked about some of his Pittsburgh days when
he was playing with the Auger,and uh yeah, it was It's pretty
insightful, pretty insightful, dude.Do you give any betting advice? Yeah,
he didn't go down on that road, no, but uh no,
it was just cool to just ameet a guy like that. And then
(08:43):
literally an hour later, I'm onthe seventh floor and we're going down and
all of a sudden, Peterson,Hoglander and Garland walk into my elevator.
I'm just like Jesus, like what'sgoing on here? And I was like,
hey, like mat if I geta quick picture? And then yeah,
like make it quick, like takethe picture. No, my dad
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took the picture. Carland was likehe Garland was like behind like he was
like he was like walking towards theelevator. We couldn't do so anyway,
Like, yeah, make it quick, guy, we're heading to the bust
of the Morgan Skins. I gotno problem whatever, and then just like
said make it quick. I waslike, hey, what's up. So
however, we just took a quickpicture and no, it was cool.
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It was it was. It wasa good trip Vancouver. Uh played a
good game. Probably should have beenlike for to one, it should have
been probably for one. Mark simactually didn't play too bad. Probably probably
should have had the first one,let the first shot on goal. Again
classic Markstrom. But uh, yeahno, it was nice. I like
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sitting up top in the Saladom,like sitting up in the second level in
the saldum. You see the wholelife better. Yeah. No, it
was a good game. That wasmy first time at the Saladom since twenty
nineteen, and so it's good.It's gonna get me back. Well,
quick business trip for two points.Beat just goes on for old knuckleheads.
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Hey, but your numbers are nottrend eeding as well as you can't sustain
four point five goals a game.Everybody in God's green Earth knows that.
So what are you think of todo? All star game? Bring them
back to the draft. That's good. I hope that. I hope the
last person gets a car again.It's good. I hope they tell I
hope they televise it too. It'sgood. Well, why would they not
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why would they do it and nottelevise it. Well, I'm just saying,
like, it's it's cool, it'sit gets it's gets fans engaged.
It's good. They're gonna make money. They're gonna make money. Who's the
last pick? And the if angeland draft and the whole star game.
They're gonna beat on it more moneythan after. After Blake's super long intro
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with Canucks story, just making somegood conversation here. Man, that's longer
than you got to talk to thoseguys. So let's let's roll into the
show. Here. We got thequarter mark, standing to talk about zador
Off trade, Tyson Berry, Habs, goltending, Wilds, fire and hire
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a coach, some vicious slashes,cane signs, and the Perry disaster.
All we got a jam pack show. All right, we got a look
at the split. We gotta getto it, man. We got a
lot to talk about. Thanksgiving uscoming gone. We're to the quarter mark
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of the season, and let's talkabout where the teams kind of sit and
we kind of compared to our predictions. It's a little early for our predictions
to be handing out, but Ido have them in front of me just
in case we need to reference them. But the quarter mark, let's start
in the East. We always startin the East, and let's get her
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going with the Atlantic right away.Is Boston's up on top? Uh that's
wait wait wait wait wait wait?Did you take this like during the Thanksgiving
Oh no, this is a quartermark. This is from last night.
I snapshot of the sty shit.I wrote the standings down. I put
the wrong divisions. My bad.And you know what, Let's do this
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just so our listener and actually ourviewers can see. Our listeners don't need
to see, because what the hellare they going to see. Let's go
like this and switch this around andthere it is so they can see.
That's the wild card format. Yeah. Yeah, let's talk a little bit
about this. We'll go through eachdivision quickly. Uh, Boston on top
in the Atlantic. Yeah. Ilike this. I like this. I
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can see you on my screen.That's good. I like this. It's
good stuff. Florida sits in second. A little bit of a surprises both
for me. I had Florida downa little bit this year. You had
them up there, but you hadBoston down a little bit. Detroit sits
in third. This is a chakerfor both of us, as we both
had them way down the list ofFreut's been good. They're sustaining. That's
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what surprises me a little bit isthat they're sustaining good play from a lot
of players well, and they're gettinggood golden from like from Rhymer too.
Yep. I always liked him.He was he's a gamer. He's a
gamer. He's a gamer, forsure. He's a gamer. Toronto sits
in a fourth. The one statwith Toronto is how many of their games
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have went too extra. They havefive out of the twelve wins five regulation
wins. Yeah. Five, let'suh, let's go over. That's all
of these Sharks have six. That'snot good, I know. But at
least they are winning and they aregetting points. You know, they're like
that opposite what Calgary did last year. This is exactly what Calgary did last
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year the point, you know whatI mean. So it's a mirror image
Tampa Bay. They sit in fifthright now, and that's a team that's
got to be worrying a little bitas they are getting another win tonight,
so they'll be Hey, listen though, listen, okay, if you would,
if you were to tell Tampa Baywho when the season started, if
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you were to tell them, hey, at American Thanksgiving slash just start of
December, we're gonna be without Vassilewskifor two months, but we're all gonna
be out of the playoff picture bythree points. They would have taken that
and ram with it because you didn'tknow what you're with. Johansson, you
didn't know what you're again, heget their head above war. He did
great for them, he did,he was fine. I agree, I
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agree. I think you would havetaken that ten, ten, ten and
five. Sure, you're not evenyour guy back. You got your guy
back, your your leader, youyour Vesna guy. They're fine. But
I think they're fine. I meanI I had them doing okay this year.
They are allowing a little a littletoo much goals that I would expect
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a little leaky. Yeah yeah,did you see the game against Dallas.
Shit they got smoked eight one.Yeah, Well that's gonna happen. Every
team has night. I mean Ikind of throw those in the garbage.
Yeah, Montreal sits at six.Buffalo, you had this year being the
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Buffalo's year to go make the playoffs. I don't think that's happening, Blake.
They are struggling. There was sittingwith twenty well Devin Leeve, I
got sent down. It's like,I don't know, man, it's they're
just not scoring. Tage Thompson's justnot the finishers to start this year that
he was last year. Cousins Cousinshas not been good. I don't know.
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There's a lot of a lot ofmixed mixed bag with that. Ottawa
sits an in last and this onesurprises me. You picked them to finish
third. I did. I did, And I still think they're going to
improve a lot. I just they'renot getting just I don't know. They've
had so many things happen in thatorganization. There's so there's too many distractions.
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Yeah, you know it is callme Blake. It lately had has
been better. Yeah, but they'restill they're still called for Smith's head.
I think Smith gets fired in thenext week. Honestly, I was talking
with my dad and I'm like,listen, if they lose tonight against Seattle,
he's getting fired tomorrow. I don'tthink they're losing tonight, but no,
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no, no, it's Saturday,Saturday. Yeah, they beat Seattle
three to one or something five andit was a shutout. They shut out
Forestburg get a shutout that night.Yeah, corporusal hasn't been great. But
on over to the metro. NewYork Rangers sit atop there. We're both
had New York as one of thebetter teams. Carolina sits in second.
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We both had them up at thetowards the top. Philly sits in third,
obviously one that shocks us both becauseI had Philly way at the bottom
and you did two. Washington isa team that sits in fourth right now.
I don't see this being sustainable.They're getting throttled again tonight. This
team just is They're just offensively.This team is not making the I don't
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think they're gonna make the layaffs.I don't either. They currently sit in
a playoff spot at the quarter marktheir third right, they're third. They
did drop the fourth tonight, butthey did this. Our graphic is from
last night to end the place.Okay, yeah, yeah yeah, uh
Islanders sitting fifth. The other teamhaving a hell of a time scorer in
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this year. Pittsburgh sits in sixth. New Jersey is going on with my
devils. How every time you pickthem blake to do well. They don't.
I know, I'm gonna start gettinghate mail like you got hate mail
from the Hurricanes. I'm gonna I'mgonna tell you a story about what my
theory on the Devils is. CanI go back to Calgary and I'll relate
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it to Seattle This year when youhave teams that have guys that all have
career years, yeah, that isextremely hard to replicate the next year.
Seattle is having it this year.They had career year upon career year.
New Jersey had that last year.It's hard to replicate. Hang on Vancouver
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next year, it's hard to stopwith the jobs. Stop with the jobs.
They're not even in the Western Conference. Let's stay on task here,
Let's stay on task. Columbus sitsin eighth. I don't think that's okay.
Let's go back to the Devils.What the think's going on? They're
not getting their v tech vanchick hasn'tbeen very good. Let's just call a
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spade of spae. Their goaltending hasnot been that good. They're young,
and what they added, I meanyou added as much as I like Tyler
Defoley. I mean you're adding suchan aged slower player. I don't know.
I mean, the dude can putthe puck in the next guy,
he's not twelve goals. He does, and he definitely is not the reason
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they're sitting in the spot they are, that's for darn sure. But they're
not, like I don't know,they're just their power player is good this
year. It's like, well,also Jack hugheses all log chunk of that,
Like he missed what two weeks,two, three weeks, two weeks.
So yeah, but that doesn't thatdoesn't move you up six slots in
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the standings. Yeah, but whenyou miss your when you miss your heart
and soul of the team, everybody'sgot to step up. And they haven't
really had anybody do that. Ijust think it's it's it's hard to have
everybody play at that same pace theydid last year. That that's hard.
Yeah, it's really hard. Suchgiers on over to the Western Conference and
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we'll talk Central versus. Colorado sitsthe top right now with thirty two points,
followed by Dallas and then Winnipeg.I think you know, Colorado and
Dallas we both had one two.I had Winnipeg third. So I've got
this division nailed. Right on themoney so far, but there's where it
changes as a team. First,I guess my question is, is Winnipeg
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surprise you a bit? I mean, the last couple of years, I
haven't really been high on them.Obviously, they're talented. Everybody knows that
they got one of the best goaltendersin the league. They make the playoffs.
We both did, so we didn'tWe both had him in the playoffs.
Okay, I I think I havehim in wild card, right yep?
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Ye, all right? Uh yeahno o. A guy uh.
A guy that's been a big surprisefor me is Cole Profetti. He's been
He's been a really good player forthem. He's on a tear right now
that he's got like eight goals thislast nine games or something like crazy like
that, so he's given him abig boost. They just extended NDO Nina
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Ryder today, a pretty decent deal. Yeah. I think it's it's been
a They were without their coach fora big stretch and and they actually played
well in his absence, which wasgood. Good to see. I had
there on a Coyotes sitting in fifth, You had them in sixth. They
sit currently in fourth and are winningagain tonight. They he did you see
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the stat? Did you see thatstat? They have beat the last five
Stanley Cup champions in the last fivegames. Like how Like what a crazy
coincidence? That is, Eh,crazy that your schedule would be that.
But yeah, they're they're they're they'replaying well like they're they are. They're
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a young team, but they've they'veadded some some vets. They spent a
little money. We talked about inthe in the start of the season that
they were going to be a respectableteam, and they are. They've been.
They've been a respectable team. They'renot the laughing stock of the league
anymore, which is good to seethem go out and spend money and not
like in previous years where they justspent to the floor and just took on
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bad money. That's why we callthem the Arizona money Launders, right,
Like, I'm just saying, likethey they're a respectable team and it's good
to see. We don't love thatthey're playing in a five thousand dollars or
five one thousand seed arena, butI think at least they're putting a respectable
product on the on the ice.I have a prediction for what happens there,
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and I think they get moved thisnext year. But that being said,
Connor Ingram has been really really he'sbeen. He's gonna nine to five
save and winning some very very big, tight, close, hard fought games.
He's coming through for them. He'sbeen well, he's well. He
was a second or second or thirdround pick when he was drafted in and
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he's finally getting a chance to bethe guy and he's he's taking it and
running with it. It's good,good for him. Good Sasky boy,
good Sasky boy, Saint Louis.It's in fifth, Nashville, sixth,
Minnesota. Let's talk about when wehave one with these guys. They're Minnesota
has been like this forever though.They're a hard team, boring, boring
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style, boring play, They struggleto score goals. They they rely on
their defense and goaltender to win themgames. That's that's that's that's the Minnesota
way. And right now they can'tkeep the Parker other net, they're not.
Gusson has hasn't been as good andare can you really rely on a
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thirty eight year old Mark Andre Fleuryto carry the load when he's not playing
well probably not right. They firedDean Everison. Uh is it his fault?
Probably not. I think he's avery good coach. He's a great
coach. He's a great coach.But they they it came down to they
didn't have success in the playoffs andthey're they're off to a bad start,
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and sometimes you can't fire the players. So who gets the blame? Right?
Uh? In Edmonton, was itwas it what's his name? What's
his name? Uh? Woodcroft,Woodcraft? Was it his fault that McDavid
was producing at a seventy point pace? No, But that's that's what happens.
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Right. Let's switch on over tothe Pacific as Vegas hits the top
with thirty six points, Vancouver sitsat thirty three in LA at thirty one.
They at the one two three lockdown. Not a whole bunch of surprise
there other than one team missing thatwe both had winning the division and Vancouver
slides up. We both had beenfifth. Let's talk a little bit.
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Fourth to fifth is Calgary and Seattle. Anaheim hits in sixth. Edmonton sits
in seventh, but have been winnersin their last four, seven and three
in their last ten, with anunder their new coach is Edmonton, obviously
on the upswing. The question ishow far will that upswing bring them?
Well, I mean you look attheir they're twelve points behind. They're twelve
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points behind third place. Well,okay, so let's go right now,
what are they six points have aplayoff spot the second wild card. Pretty
significant gap between a wild card though, in the top three in the Pacific.
That's what twelve points? Twelve fourteenpoints? I'm not saying they're dead,
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but where did you get this twelveor fourteen points from well Edmonton to
Vancouver? Was that's fourteen points?Uh, they're twelve points in LA.
Calgary is unless the unless these standingsare are off, Calgary is eight back
of LA. Yeah, no,I'm talking about I'm talking about Edmonton right
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now. Yeah, we're talking aboutEdmonton. Like that's I got a question
for you. Neither one of ussaw Vancouver getting off to this start,
and Vancouver currently sits second place.They're sixteen eighty at thirty three points.
They're three back of Vegas, whichis very close, but for that good
of a start, Yeah, didyou not? I mean I look at
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the they're well they're six and they'resix and six or last twelve. So
yeah, but they're probably when youlook at that, and LA sits at
two points back of them, soone game back with four games in hand,
so theoretically I would say that LAis gonna least win one of those.
So I mean they're Vancouver is sittingin third for most purposes here until
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the LA catches up a little bit. Is that not kind of upset you
as a Vancouver fan to be inthird place? No, dude, you're
na in this solid of a start. I mean, okay, yeah,
you still got a you still gota ten point cushion on Calgary, Like
you're that's five wins. That's you'vecreated. You've created, You've created a
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cushion for yourself in case you dohave a four and four and six ten
games, like you know what Imean, like they've Uh no, no
knuck fan is upset at this start. I mean it's upset that that you're
in third or second or third.No, I mean you should almost be
higher with how well you've played.Yeah, that's that's just how good Vegas
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has been. There. They theythey're showing why they're the champs and why
they should be respected. LA islike that too. I love watching LA
late at night. Now there's sucha fun team to watch and really fun
Trevor Moore man, wouldn't he lookgood in the team like the Trono may
Police right now? Boy, whata what a what a misplace of management
that was? But uh, yousee the goal he scored last night?
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I did not. I don't watchhockey on Sunday night. Kick the puck
out of the corner, took itto the net short side shelf. I'll
send it to you after the pod. Is nice goal. So let's quickly
go through the East and the Westand say who's gonna move out of a
playoff spot? Who's gonna move in? I in the East, I have
Washington probably falling out of a playoffspot. I think Detroit's gonna hold their
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own and sticky in there. Isee Tampa Bay moving up and getting into
a playoff spot. I just don'tknow if New Jersey can. There're three
points out, Brady, I know, I know, Okay, I'm going
to go. I am going uh. I will say, I will say
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Detroit, Detroit is out. Torontowill take Detroit spot, and I will
take that. I will take theDevils to take the capitol spot for the
wild card rong. I mean,what about the Islanders. Are the Islanders
going to stick? Ah? No, I only think the Islanders are in.
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How about as we look over tothe west, I think Colorado,
Dallas, and Winnipeg are pretty locked. I would say LA sounds pretty locked
to me. Uh, wild card. I could almost roll the dice.
I you could almost roll the dice. I think it's going to be Edmonton.
I will say right now, Ithink Edmonton, Arizona. I don't
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know. I think it's gonna beEdmonton, and I want to say Arizona,
but I feel like I'll be onfreezing cold takes real quick now.
Wouldn't be a smart The easy betwould be to go with a team like
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Saint Louis. I don't see thathappening at all. I don't know.
We picked him so down the stangsup. They've been fine, they've been
whatever. Okay, Yeah, Idon't know. It's gonna be interesting.
We will evaluate again at the halfwaypoint. It is time to hit fast
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forward and go around to the leaguequickly quickly. Version Barramlee, A lot's
talk about I'm gonna roll through it. Really fast with you. Zadorov gets
traded, Calgary gets a third,in twenty twenty six a fifth, and
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twenty twenty four Vancouver gets Nikita Zadoroff. Yeah, yeah, it's uh.
It's a good pick up for theCanucks that there is a team that's battling
some injuries on the back end.Very very nice, tidy piece of business
cat management by the Canucks. Theyflipped a four point one million dollar villier
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who was producing uh eight eight pointsin twenty five games playing fourth line minutes.
They flipped him, got rid ofhis money to Chicago and flipped that
pick. They got back plus athird round pick, and brought in a
four or five d man. Soyeah, it's it's good. He adds
a lot of size to uh toa decoor that it's already pretty big.
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Once he gets Susie back, it'sall of a sudden it's looking like a
pretty good defense. I had tolaugh. I heard a guy on sports
I you told he wasn't gonna getbooed. That guy got booted every time
he touched the down buck. Iknew that was gonna You told me he's
not getting booed. You said,they don't really care. The guy's not
gonna want to be there. Whocares? He doesn't want to be there,
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doesn't want to be there. Iknew he was gonna get booed.
It was loud, dude, youknow what I mean? Whatever, But
I will I you know, Ithink it's funny. I don't love him
with Tyler Myers. I will goon record saying that I do. I
don't love him with Tyler Myers.Well I do, actually, as long
as as long as they're your bottompairing. See, I think Zadorf's a
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great five six, and honestly,I think Tyler Myers is a pretty good
five to six. I think they'vebeen miscast. Not in Calgary. Zadoroff
didn't get miscast, but then hegot pissed off because he was a first
round pick and he thinks he's atwo three right, Okay, but hear
me finish, look hear me out. When Myers was in Winnipeg, he
was a third line pairing and didfine. He comes to Vancouver and unfortunately
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Vancouper did not have a good defenseand they had to push him up the
thing and then he struggles. Hegoes on to that bottom three or that
bottom two. He's a fine,He's fine. But you know, I
I heard you're paying him six milthough, but you gotta you gotta take
that. You know, he's fine, he's fine. I would rather Myers
play with a guy like Susie andyou can play Zadora with Ian Cole.
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I would rather that because for me, I feel like Zadorov and Tyler Myers
are too similar. They both liketo jump up and join the rush,
and you need a defensive guy withboth of those guys. But if you
can do like Calgary did with Dabranson, that's true. Branton's that stay home
guy. Have him be stay athome guys and be that big line of
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defense that they'd be tough. Idid hear one. I heard a funny
one. It's the Zadorf and Myerstogether are seventeen feet of zero hockey sense.
Okay, that's why. Is thatfrom your burner account? No,
that's your I do think think thatZadoroff is a is a good acquisition by
the Canucks, But I do alsothink that Vancouver fans are forgetting some of
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the struggles that Zadoroff does have.No he he turns the punck over,
he goes for a big hit andmisses sometimes. Yeah, I mean yeah
for sure. Yeah, he takessome penleyes he took. He took a
dumb one against Calgary, is whatis. I didn't think he looked that
bad for a guy that he's gotfourteen goals last year fourteen. Okay,
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don't forget though that three of themin the final game against a meaningless game
against San Jose. Okay, stilleleven goals is a d man? Pretty
damn pretty still pretty good. Well, let me know how that goes for
you. We will. Tyson BarryNashville has been given permission to talk to
other teams, like, what's upwith sidor off Ed Barry? Why are
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they on so many teams? Idon't know. I means been on Buffalo,
Chicago, Colorado and Barry has beenthe Nashville Edison team. I know,
but holy no, fourteen fourteen fourteenEdmonton, Toronto, Uh, Colorado
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and Nashville. I know. Butwhy these guys are why he's just he's
not very good defenseman anymore. Well, no, but there's a lot of
not very good. Here's the thing, here's the thing. Where does Tyson
Barry? Where is he most valuableon the power play. He ain't getting
power play time with the Roman Yosion the team. He's he doesn't fit
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that scheme. He needs to play. It's the same reason why he didn't
work in Toronto, because Morgan Rileyran the power play. He struggled.
He he was the number one quarterbackof the power play until Evan Bouchard took
that over, so they ship himout. He was a number one quarterback
in Colorado. He was fine.He needs he is more engaged when he
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gets to all this power play time, and I feel like he's more engaged.
He plays very defensively. He's notgetting power play time then, and
he and he's isolated and struggling.I agree with he somewhere where he can
be a quarterback on a power playand he will thrive. He he has
in two of the four places he'sbeen. The other two he struggled because
he didn't plan the power play.Is he making four point five? I
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don't know. I don't know,that's the question. I guess you know,
that'll be interesting to see how ButI think I think he needs to
be a quarterback on the power play. So I get a question for you.
Montreal Canadians extend mountain to say hislast Mantimbau, Mandumbau can't do it
today? Three years, three pointone five? Yeah, Hello, what's
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going on here? Why? Why? Wait a minute? Why you know?
What's wrong with this deal? What'swrong with that? Maltimbo has been
he's been excellent the last year anda half, three point five for three
years. I think it's gonna bethat's gonna be a great deal. He
has a nine ten, say percentageon a pretty pissboard Montreal team. He's
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been just fine. He ain't thereason why they're losing games. I'm not
saying that at all, but it'sI mean, he's a he's a gap
stop until you can for the nextthree years, until you can find somebody
there. He's twenty seven years old. By the time the contract's over,
you're thirty and you're hoping that much. If you're Montreal, you can either
draft a goaltender, you go outand get you get one after three years.
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It's easy. If he's fine,they're rebuilding. They're rebuilding for the
next three years anyway, So what'sthe big deal? Just I thought that
was a little I don't know.No, that's not too bad. Jake
Allen's gone after this year anyway,Cayden, Primu and Maltibo is gonna be
the guys next year. It's okay. Minnesota fire. We touched on this
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earlier, so we won't touch onit much now. But they fire.
Did you even send higher? JohnHeinz Hinds yet? I don't know.
This move to me just seems likeyou thought they should have brought back girl
Sutter. Eh joking, I'm joking, but uh Do I think Hines is
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the answer there? Probably not.I don't know. They're they're what three
and all with Hines two and all? I know three? I believe I
never can tell what Minnesota is gonnado. They're they're the most unpredictable team
in the league. I think theyare one of them. You don't know
if you're gonna explode for six,you're gonna lose five nothing, You just
don't know. So a couple ofquick slash things I want to talk about
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some slashes. Do you see Trubaslashes Frederick in the head gets stop it?
Did you see both angles stop it? He was just his stick.
Frederick was holding his damn stick andhe was just trying to get it away
and he actually hit him in thehead. How about speaking of funny ones,
how about connecting and Brandon Smith isconnect He just gets Mama hawked when
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he had it coming because he heI didn't see it. I look it
up on YouTube. He just getstomahawked. The one I did want to
talk to you about is I watchedthat huge hit that sent him into the
boards right from Garner Hathaway. I'msorry, I don't even see a penalty.
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Dude. It was a fucking icing. You can't do that. The
whistle went for icing. You can'thit a guy when the whistle goes for
icing and blow him up after thewhistle. You can't do that. Blow
him up. He did too.That Hughes is standing there, he's not.
He's he's not thinking he's gonna gethit. He just won the race
for ricing. Nobody is getting Nobodyis thinking about getting hit after the raft
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blows the whistle of icing. That'sbush league, that's bullshit. So how
come nothing happened to him? It'sbulls He should have got suspended. That's
dirty, dude. It's not it'snot that it was a dirty hit,
it's then it was an after anicing, it's after an icing. It's
bush league, it's bush leak.It's bush league. It is. You
can't. You can't do that afterwhen the ref blow. That's why they
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went to the no touch icing toget rid of that ship. Bro.
So when when when are people goingto be accountable though for protecting themselves at
some point? Okay, dude,okay, so you win the race.
I'm not alone. You win therace. You're you're automatically, You're automatically
just supposed to be ready to gethit mehan, you know, come on,
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I'm not alone in this opinion onthis one. I see one of
people say that, this one,including the coach, Tordoerella is saying I
don't get it. I don't getthis. Okay, but the whistle went
for icing, so the play isdead. You don't. You don't hit
a guy they hit already came beforethe whistle. It did not. Watch
it again, No, it didnot. I will, I'll have to
watch it again. Whistle goes andthen he hits him. It's bush leak,
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it is, And I didn't likeit. Detroit Science, Patrick Kane,
were you surprised this? No?He reunites with the brink at they
were a really good duo, andin Chicago they get him at a discount
of price of what three point fivefor one year one year or two one
year. So yeah, I thinkhe's I think he's going to be ready
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to play in four or five games. You just get ramped up. Yeah,
this is a good pickup for it'sa good pickup for Detroit. Anything
that he does is gravy. You'renot really having max Zack expectations to see
see what he can do. We'llsee it happens. I don't mind it.
I want to quickly touch on thisbefore we get to three questions.
The Corey Perry thing. We didn'tget a chance to talk about that.
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The only thing I want to sayabout this is the way our society is
now about protecting. Not the victimwe protect, we protect the perpetrators and
everything nowadays in society. If wewould have just if the if the team
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would have just came out and saidwhat Perry did, listen, we could
have stopped a ton of rumors anda ton ton of hurt for the Badard
family. The fact that the ChicagoBlackhawks let those rumors just circulate on Twitter
for three days almost four days ispathetic. I'm sorry. As soon as
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those rumors started, a statement shouldhave been out and said Corey Perry had
nothing to do with any family memberon the team or anything. Done.
Squash rumors are done. But no, they let him circulate and then and
then the press conference comes out andnan he says it three days later.
Come on, it's gotta be done. As soon as those rumors start up,
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the statement out on social media.Done, done. Just tell us
what happened. I don't know,because there's an investigation. I don't know.
We don't know what's involved. Imean they said it's not criminal,
Like what the hell? I don'tknow? In today's world, why don't
we? I don't know? Soinstead, this poor family had to deal
with this BS for a week andif we had just known what was going
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on everybody. It just doesn't makesense to me. But something that does
make sense to me. Apparel Bandits. You need to go on and check
them out. They are our sponsor. They have a lot of really really
really cool merchandise. You can getyour team logo, put on bags,
sweatshirts, hats, everything, getyour whole team outfitted. Apparel Bandits dot
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com and Blake. You know whattime it is? It is time.
It is time for three questions,an addition of three questions that I hopefully
you are ready for. I'm interestedto see you got it. Here's three
questions. It's time. We're threequestions. Viral wauh is the call to
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race more exciting than people originally thought. I uh know, I thought that
Logan Cooley and a bunch of otherguys would be giving Conor Berard a little
bit or run, although I wouldsay the Connor Bedard has been very,
very good. What's your thoughts beenon brock Faber? Very good? He's
good. I like his game alot. But but what Butard's doing is
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he's got a what ten goals isfirst? Uh? Eleven goals in twenty
some games? Pretty damn good.What's your biggest surprise player in the first
quarter of the year Johnny Goodreau.No, seriously, all that talent and
he can't put a point up.It's pretty surprising. Yeah, I went
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with Profetti. I went with Profettihere because I didn't think he would be
this good this early. I canbe as surprised with bad as I can
good Right, who is your goodsurprise, but you got a good surprise
player Connor Ingram, you knew whoyou knew who was another good one.
And I'm so happy for the guys. Brock Besser leads the league with seventeen
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goals. He had sixteen goals allyear last year. The stuff that you
guys are Canucks were ready to givethis guy away for water bottles, what
little they were literally getting away forfree. They were going to dude,
they were ready to give this guyaway for free. And now he leaves
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aheng goals. It's it's an awesomestory. You won't end the year with
that. But no, I'm justsaying, but for a guy who had
sixteen goals last year and now he'sat seventeen, all the stuff he went
through, I'm a happy for him. Okay, favorite player to watch in
the league right now? Favorite playerin the league to watch right now?
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I can name some teams, probablymore than quicker than players. Who is
That's a really good question. Whois my favorite player to watch? You
want to know who I love watching? You know what you know? Yeah,
but you want to know who myfavorite player to watch is because he
always intrigues me, because I thinkhe's he's so forgotten in this league?
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Is is mirro Heyskin in Dallas?Forgotten? Forgotten? Who forgotten? Now
he's hardly talked about outside of Dallas, He's hardly talked about. He's hardly
talked about. Think about it,Yeah, I mean they do talk about
Hughes and mccar a lot right now. You ever hear his name, he's
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back pages. I mean he's youhear Hughes mccarr guy, you'll see had
been you know? And oh yeah? And then he that younger Hayskinning kid
in Dallas. I mean, holyshit, this kid. I I love
watching him play. I love watchingI love watching Coo Trout too. The
guy just continues to just just destroyplayers. I love watching Nathan McKinnon when
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he's in a mode, when he'smad, when he's pissed off and just
takes takes the puck up behind thenend, just gallops all the way down
the ice. I know I wouldn'twant to play a pissed off McKinnon either.
How many times this year this soundscrazy, but how many times this
year when you've been watching Edmonton haveyou seen Warren Fogel and think it was
McDavid because he's number thirty seven andhe's a big body and everyone's whim but
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you know what, he's an underratedplayer for them. He's a good he's
a good hockey player. Yeah,listener, question comes from Eric Larson,
and you got to listen to this. Now. Where's he from? Where's
he from? He's a friend ofmine actually, and he posed this question
to me one day of work becausewe talk sports all the time. And
I told him, I'm like,I got to use this because this is
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good. What's his name? EricLarson? Okay, so listen, all
hockey jerseys are the best jerseys inall of sports. If you could only
buy one more for the rest ofyour life, what team would it be,
style would it be? And whatplayer would be on the back?
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I would go with uh a skatein the rink white Marcus Naslan nineteen on
the back. He's on my favoritehere's all my favorite players growing up,
white, the old white skate withthat with a V on the side.
Yeah, that's a good one.All right, all right? What about
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you? Have you asked the questionto answer? I don't even know.
I mean, feel flurry, Ialready got it. If I had to
pick, I'd picked the eighty ninewhite Field Flurry fourteen. I kind of
know you too well, But howdo I know you're gonna I already have
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it, but I already have that. Another jersey that I don't have,
that I still cannot believe I havenever bought is the Old Red e nineteen
eighty nine year the Red al mckinness. Yeah, that's a good one.
That's what I'm surprised. I've nevernever broke down in bot but yeah,
those are mine, those are minethat stand out to me. It's so
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last week, it was a niceweekend. I was feeling better. I
watched a little bit more live hockey. I didn't have any games, or
I didn't get to go to anylive hockey because there was really nothing going
on in our area. So Iactually got to sit down, settled them
on Friday night and Saturday and havesome college hockey and Friday night watching off
and some pro watch a ton ofpro hockey on Saturday night. It was
(48:35):
great. There was a lot ofreally good games, a lot of a
lot of fun games. Sunday Ididn't watch any games, right, Why
why is it unless my team playsSunday. I don't watch any hockey on
Sundays NS and I'm not a bigfootball guy, so I don't know why
that is. It just I wakeup in the morning Sunday morning, watch
all the highlights from the weekend,and that's that's I get on Sunday.
So I don't know. It's goodsome business, big games. Just we
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can add ball, all right,Hockey fans, enjoy this week's hockey action.
We're back again next week, samenight recording where She's day drop more
great hockey talk. Hockey talk everyweek. It's the Debate Hockey Podcast.
Hockey fans. That was another greatepisode of the Debate Hockey Podcast with Brad
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