#1290 | Lil Skies on Getting Smoked Out by Wiz khalifa, Mental Health, & Influences | The Dr. Greenthumb Show

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Speaker 4 (01:52):
And we got our special guests today up at the
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what's up up?

Speaker 6 (01:59):
Yes, welcome, Yeah, thanks show man, thanks for having me,
and congratulations.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
I know you got a new joint coming yeah, and
you've been popping it off and it's good to hear
you coming back with some ship.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yes, sir, I appreciate that. You know.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
What I thought was was was dope, like and knowing
some of your story is like you were getting down
with your pops.

Speaker 6 (02:26):
Pops was making music too, Yeah right, definitely. Yeah, my
dad in music while I was growing up. I started
making music when I was like four years old. I
would imagine, yeah, like in the studios since I was four,
So when I was with my pops, like because him
and my mom was separated. So when I go with
my dad, that's what we did. We'll be in the studio,

(02:47):
so I'll just be watching him. And then one day
he just I don't even know if he asked me.
I can't remember. Shit, I was too young. But we
just got on the I just got on the track,
like I just tried it.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Do you feel like it?

Speaker 4 (02:59):
Do you feel that early exposure to the studio life
is what got you into doing the music or was
it something else that inspire me?

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah? Yeah, it was just like I don't know seit.

Speaker 6 (03:12):
What I told people is like kids as a kid,
like kids like to play with toys and go out
time and do this, Like the music was what I
like to do.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Like that was just that I loved.

Speaker 6 (03:22):
Yeah, It's just something I loved so like it wasn't
nothing I really thought too deep on. It's just what
I always did, like my whole life. I don't know
nothing besides it, honestly, so like that's just what I did.
It's just something that I loved. And then like over time,
I just I studied. I taught myself a lot of shit,
you know what I'm saying. Like I guess I put

(03:45):
that pressure on myself, but I just studied like a
lot of the you know, the legends, the greats and
shit I tried to learn. I tried to learn what
to do and not to do. I taught myself how
to write. Like I remember being like thirteen in my room,
Like I would just stay in my room for hours
and hours and hours after school. Like by the time
I got home from school, I'm in my room till

(04:08):
I like I.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Go to bed at like nine pm.

Speaker 6 (04:10):
Just write off school with like three three fifteen, I
think that I'm in the I'm in the room trying
to write and teach myself, and it just was taking
me forever. I just kept doing it, and then over
time that shit just started flowing.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Were beats or without him.

Speaker 6 (04:25):
Yeah, I was writing the beats and then sometimes without them,
but like I would always write the beats or like people,
I looked up two beats shit like that.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
What did you find yourself writing most too? Like which artists?
Probably Little Wayne, Little Wayne. He was winning your bigger influences,
right yeah, Little Wayne for sure. But I had like
it was eras with me.

Speaker 6 (04:48):
Yeah, so like fifty little Wayne shit. Then then as
I got older, like Mac Miller West Khalifa because I'm
from Pennsylvania. Yeah, so like that shiit, it was like
close to me and I think, I like, I think,
I don't. I think I discovered Mac first and then
it was whiz but like, yeah, bro, I don't know.

(05:09):
I just I'm a fan of music. Like I like
what I like, I love what I love. So yeah,
I don't put myself in like no category, say I
have a favorite artist or this or that, like I
really just love this shit.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
Yeah, it's best not to put yourself in a box, right, like,
just be open to everything. Yeah, and I feel that
when when I when I listen to your ship, you
know that it that you're you're open and it's not
just like one specific style that you you lock into.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, I try to switch it up.

Speaker 6 (05:37):
Like on my last album that I just drop, I
just try to switch it up, show people I can
make any kind of music for real, Like I just
wanted to challenge myself, honestly, Like that's really what it was,
to see if I can make something different than what
I normally make.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Because as an artist, people.

Speaker 6 (05:54):
You know, they like your fans, they like you for
a particular sound, like your sound, you know what I'm saying.
I try to switch it up, gain some new fans,
hopefully some of the old fans like it too, but
then I still got my style. So it's like, I
don't know, it's just I was really trying to find
Like I wouldn't say I was losing love for this ship,
but it was kind of like that at a point.

(06:14):
It's just trying to find my love again because like
up and downs with hip hop, I felt like, you
know that, but it's ups and downs with this ship.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
Yeah, you know, it's like motherfuckers need to catch a
spark every now and then because like you know, the
game goes stagnant.

Speaker 7 (06:27):
But we're gonna say, let's no, I was just gonna
say that sometimes you know, you could use that break too,
just take a little break, come back to it when
when you're feeling better, you know.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah readjust reset.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
And then in that time when you're not doing shit,
someone might come along that sparks you and like inspires you,
you know what I mean. Like I had that same
shit happened, and then fifty Sex came out and I
was like, oh man, it was he's doing some dope shit,
like like the lead in from his mixtapes to his
his first album, Legend, It's like, oh okay, and the

(07:02):
like that kind of sparked me to get back in
the studio because I was out there, like, you know,
kind of just chilling for a second, right, Yeah, And
sometimes sometimes that happens, you lean back off of it
and be like, you know, how come I love this
so much? But I need something to re spark me,
you know, even though I do love this sure and

(07:22):
for sure, like he was one of the ones that
kind of like sparked me to get back in the
studio and start knocking it.

Speaker 8 (07:27):
Yeah yeah, you know.

Speaker 9 (07:29):
As as a as a DJ, my favorite thing is
I'm always looking for my next favorite album, you know
what I mean, I'm looking for the thing that's going
to bring me.

Speaker 6 (07:38):
You kind of gotta play what's hot, like you gotta
play with what's what's popping? What you gotta play what
you like.

Speaker 9 (07:43):
To absolutely, but I'm always looking for that album to
make me feel like, oh, this is this is why
I'm here, you know what I mean. And then I
could go further and do the gigs of playing what
everyone else wants to hear, you know what I mean.
But it's it's always important for me to find the
next sound or the new album, a new favorite song.
So I could be like, man, this ship is doble,

(08:05):
and if it's something I don't I'm not too familiar with,
maybe I'll go search some more of this out and
then I might find a couple bands or a couple
different artists that I might go, oh shit, okay.

Speaker 7 (08:17):
Sometimes sometimes that's all you need is the right beat
to inspire you to. Probably if you have that beat
and then you're going here, he's gonna be like it's
just gonna come to you and like you inspired right there, boom.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
It could it could very well be a beat yep.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
I mean, because like some of us get into a
funk where like we get bored or overworking because we've
been in the studio so goddamn long, and you need
a break from that ship, like to be in the
studio every day all day without a break.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
You will, Yes, I think that was kind of my problem.

Speaker 6 (08:48):
I did that ship for years, like, no, it's time
I feel you. I did, like, and then I just
was like, damn, I have moments where like I ain't
feeling the ship, Like when I say ain't feeling I'm
just like, we'll go on the studio today. I don't
think I'm gonna make nothing like fire for real, But
then I go in there and I make something I
thought I wouldn't have made. So it's just like me,

(09:09):
I think it'd be a little bit of self doubt. See,
people look at me, probably think I'm ad confident and
ship like, but I think I'm still finding my confidence
and ship like as I get older, you know, like
I'm still trying to figure this ship out life life
shut out too, like find a balance with real life,
ship and being an artist.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
That's part of your growth though, I think, And that's
what that's what's making you get better each time.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Though.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
Yeah, you know what I mean, right, because I think
you know, Yeah, confidence is everything you have to have
it as a rapper ever, we all gotta think we
the best and ship. But even in that mentality, we'll
have some self doubt, like we'll listen back to a
song and be like, ah, fuck, I don't know about
that one, or maybe I should fix that line, or

(09:55):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Know about it.

Speaker 6 (09:56):
You have you ever had a song pop though that
you thought wasn't gonna be the one?

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yeah, ain't crazy though.

Speaker 6 (10:06):
Yeah, I was like, crazy, y'all want this? That's crazy
because we were with the major label.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
And you know, when you're on an independent, you could
call the shot all you want, but with the with
the major, they'll allow you to call the shots if
they believe in you, but if if they feel like
you're wrong on something, they'll interject. And with Insane, we
all thought it's a great album, but we were like,
I don't know about a single. And it went to

(10:33):
show you, you know, some of us rappers should be
picking our singles because I would have picked something else
that we never would have popped like we did. They
chose that and they argued for it, and we were
just open enough to say, well, if you feel that
that way about it, fuck it, let's go with it,
But I didn't think it was going to do anything because,
like you know, I didn't hear it like the way

(10:54):
they did. But I guess that's because as artists, when
we're making a piece, like an album or whatever, we
live too close to the music for too long, and
what everybody else hears, they might hear something that sparks them,
but we're like, we live so close to it.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
No no, no, no, no, that's not the one.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
Check this, But that's because our ears are tuned to
it in a different way. When you get fresh ears
and they tell, like everybody else is telling you, it's
this song you should listen to that.

Speaker 6 (11:23):
Yeah, sometimes sometimes sometimes not all the time.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Some motherfuckers will steer you up, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
But when it's a unanimous thing where everybody like hears
it and no one's heard it before him, that hey,
that song right there, that's the one. If you get
enough of that from different people who don't you know,
you didn't necessarily play it at the same time, then
it's pretty undeniable what song you should go with. But
some motherfuckers will yes you to death. That's why you

(11:52):
can't tell anybody when you play shit which songs you like.
You kind of got to just say yeah, you just
got to play them. Hey, I got some shit, tell
me what you like, instead of saying, hey, I really
like this one. What do you think? Because them motherfuckers
that like just want to be on your good side. Yes, man, Yo,
that ship is the business be and you got no
business putting that out. But they will tell you, you know.

(12:16):
I mean, as a producer, you got to have that here.
You've had to have had that in your career. You know,
yeah it happened. What do you do when you find
one of those homies kick him out the studio?

Speaker 3 (12:28):
I mean, or you're just telling them just let them.

Speaker 6 (12:31):
Do you need somebody that's gonna be like brutally honest
though too.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
That's more than anything. That's me.

Speaker 6 (12:38):
After I make a song, I'm like, that shit sucks.
I gotta make something better. And that's how I am
with every song. But I'm not saying like literally that
shit sucks. It's just like, damn, I got one up,
Like in my head, I got.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
To you got to make everything better than that last
you know.

Speaker 7 (12:54):
You know, I noticed sometimes you feel like that, like Yo,
this shiit sucks, but you hear it like an hour later,
two hours later, you'd be like, oh, yeah, yeah, you
forgot about it, right.

Speaker 6 (13:06):
Yeah, I'm sure I've definitely had that word later on.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
That's something I'm like, I don't.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Know, And then I hear it maybe a week later
and be like, you know what, this is kind of tight,
but that you know, because we're listening it with different
ears at certain points, you know, I think our moods
have something to do with I would.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Say, how do you how did you make?

Speaker 6 (13:30):
Like when you was coming in cause y'all swag, y'all style, y'all,
how you rap was just different, but even back then,
like how you like, how did you what was your
process of making a song? Like you just go in
there like all right, we got they booked us twelve
sessions this week, that's what we gotta do.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Or did you just some.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
Of it was like, you know, like because Muggs always
had like a makeshift studios at his at his crib
wherever he was thin, and he didn't that much, but
it was enough to get the idea off. So like
if we were you know, at his crib, boom, we
knocked the idea out. If they you know, had us
go to the studio. We had to learn how to

(14:10):
dry right, like right on the spot, I should say,
spot right right. Whereas you know, making the first album,
you know, we had time to like fuck with songs
before we got into a studio because he had his
little makeshift shit, you know what I mean. So we
had time to craft that first album, and it was like,

(14:32):
you know, song comes, we vibe to it, Okay, let's
get on it, and we'll all sort of put in
the ideas and stuff like that. We never really really
went away from each other. We were always in close proximity,
like in the room. On the first few albums, we
tried to do all that shit together. But as you know,
time goes, you start having a different process. Your process

(14:55):
does something you know, evolves, It changes like sometimes okay, okay,
let me take this home with me, let me let me,
let me absorb it and see if I could come
up with something to it. As as opposed to we're
all right here bouncing each other's ideas off one another
and seeing what sticks and shit like that. So we
never really had one process. We always like just did

(15:18):
the vibe, like what is the vibe right now? Okay?
And we'd snap in this way. But other times I
would take the studio, I would take to writing it elsewhere,
Like I go up into the Hollywood Hills play you know,
in one of the park parking areas where you could
see the fucking city, and I'd just be getting lit
up there and riding to Mugs's shit up there. I

(15:42):
think I did most of the third album, Temple Boom
like that, and on Black Sunday.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Some of it. I was driving around in the city
writing because I like to drive and write. Yeah, I
see in my car.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
Yeah, ideas come faster to me when I'm in the
car for some reason. I don't know what it is,
but that used to be my main process, is writing
while driving. It's like sitting still was a crazy thing
for me, but I got used to it.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
I could do it now, But that was that was
the process.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
I had to go somewhere after, but that was after
the first album, that was going into the rest of
the ship. But it's really not one one way to
do it. There's and there's no real right way to
do it. There's just your way to do it exactly, you.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
Like ever last, for instance, one of our one of
our homies. You know, he does the jump around thing
House of Pain and it's got a bunch of other
ship that you know, is enormous. But his process was
he never wrote a lyric down on paper. Yeah you
know what I mean. He would think of it, think
of it, and as he's thinking of it, he's memorizing
it as it as it goes, and then he goes

(16:52):
and locks it down and boom. Never seen him write
a song on paper ever, And that's a different process.
I mean, that's like how Lil Wayne's does. Jay Z
and Big did it a couple of times. I did
it once on the first album in a couple of
times in the last few years.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
But it takes a lot of fucking brain power to
do this.

Speaker 6 (17:14):
Yeah, I can do that. I've done that a lot
before too. It's like I learned because I came in writing.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (17:20):
Then I was like, well, shit, I can write now.
I think in my head like all right, I'm decent now,
now let me try this.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, so now I can do both.

Speaker 6 (17:29):
But it's like writing is like like therapy or some
shit to me.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (17:35):
I feel like my songs come together better when I'm
writing because it's it's not like it's planned out, but
it just like I get the chorus all right, now
I know the chorus is what the song's gonna be about,
so now the versus is nothing for me to knock out.
So it's just I don't know, it flows so smooth
for me like that way.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
Yeah, I think because you've trained your mind to to
you know, be creative in a specific way that's efficient
to you, you know what I mean, right, And it
feels more comfortable, like because I've done that style too,
where it's like no ink to paper, not typing it
in the phone, whatever, and just coming with it line

(18:15):
by line. And I like it because the style you
could you could take it anywhere. You're not bound by
the paper and the restrictions of the lines and syllables
that you wrote. But to your point, the songwriting ability
when you're inking it to pend at least for guys
like myself and yourself obviously, is that we feel more

(18:38):
comfortable writing it than coming off the top with it
because we can connect the storylines better as we're writing it,
and it is an outlet. Like you said, it's like therapy.
You're writing this shit down and seeing it.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
I just think written is going to be tighter.

Speaker 9 (18:56):
I don't know, you know, because I mean, you look
at jay Z's person versus imagine he wrote something. He
would make that shit better than that little bit.

Speaker 6 (19:04):
It depends because like even when I freestyle, I'm like,
all right, this ship's cool. But then now I'm listening
back to it and I'm like, Shitta said this word.
Oh yeah, I'm feeling a word like it's just like
I'm feeling in words with maybe curse words or some
ship I could have said a word like.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (19:20):
It's such like it's more challenging, like I'm challenging myself
like when I'm writing, I'm thinking harder. Yes, but it's
like when it comes together is better. As far as
me going off the top, I can do that. That
going off the top is fun, Like it's fun. I
get that process. But it's like, all right, I'm trying
to make good music here at the same time, I
want to have fun, but I'm trying to make music.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
I think it's a process.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
Like if you're going to write songs without writing them
like that, it's it's it's like something you have to
do consistently to get better at it because it's it's
building that muscle in your in your in your brain
like ever Last and guys like ever Last, Little Way
and and jay Z and those guys, you know, their
masters at it because they've been doing it so long,

(20:05):
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
You know Greg Nice is like that too.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
Yeah, but that's but what I'm saying is guys like
that are great at it because they've been doing it
so long, and they make it look fucking easy.

Speaker 6 (20:14):
And jay Z, Like jay Z used to watch the
Faded Black documentary like all the time, like his documentary
that he had, and you just see him like where
everybody's working with Pharrell everybody, but how he's like he
trained his mind and he's writing and ship how you said,
He's like he already got it in his head, but
he's writing. He's coming up with it. You hear him

(20:35):
doing melodies and then he got all right, put me
in the booth, go in the booth, and that ship
comes out.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
What the fuck?

Speaker 6 (20:43):
This nigga's a magician, Like yeah, he's crazy with it
like shit like that was just like all right, that's
the ship. I'll watch it over and over again, like lol.
Wayne he's making the Carter two and that documentary that
never was supposed to come out, but it leaked and
came out. Like I don't know if you ever seen that.
Watch that a million times, like back to back, eight
Mile a million times.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Back to back.

Speaker 6 (21:03):
Oh yeah, fifty cents movie. Uh, what's the what's Richard?
A million times? Back to back? Like just trying to
like learn from them, but like all right, not copy
their style, but just learn like their process.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Like that shit was just intriguing to me.

Speaker 7 (21:20):
Like, like I always say, you want to be the best,
you gotta study the best.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
You gotta study the best, absolutely, I mean that's all.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
That's all.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
Like everything you're saying is like being a student of
the game, and that's that's how you become one of
the best by learning all these these different things. It's
like military motherfuckers, right, generals study other generals throughout history
and how they won wars, you know, strategically or psychologically
or shit like that, like the art of war, you

(21:49):
know what I mean. Yeah, you try to get in
the mindset and study like other leaders who have won
without costing so many lives and shit like that.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
And it's it's the same sort of process. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
It's like you're getting ahead of it, you're strategizing, and
you know, it's it's just a different train of thought.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
It takes to another level, man, being a student, because
you learn everybody's pockets and you figure out how you
could make a pocket from theirs, you know what I mean,
not emulating or duplicating or repeating their style, but like
learning something from it, absorbing the the special parts of it.
Like I used to study Pun like a motherfucker. Like

(22:36):
I would study Big Pun left and right, because he
was the nastiest with with the with the flow that
had no no pause or disconnection from it. It's all
just rapid fire, machine gun ship. Yeah. I learned that
from him, you know, indirectly, just studying his style.

Speaker 8 (22:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
And uh yeah, man, I think you have to study
others to become the best, or to be one of
the best, you know what I mean.

Speaker 9 (23:06):
You know, when as when I first started learning how
to DJ, I had to learn everything jam Master J did,
and then Terminator X and then you know, and then
DJ you know DJ scratch from EPM D. Like I
had to learn how to transform and do you know,
because I wanted to learn how to do that. And
also if maybe by chance, when I'm doing some cuts

(23:27):
later on, there might be a little thing that I
learned from memorizing that that I can add to.

Speaker 8 (23:32):
My own ship. And that's just like.

Speaker 9 (23:35):
Your teacher, absolutely, and you know, and I can only
imagine this like that with rhyme as well.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 9 (23:40):
You look listen to somebody like oh Man, and then
at some point it's going to add to your ship.

Speaker 7 (23:46):
Like I used to hear back in the day, it's
Big Daddy Kane or rock Him or somebody like. You know,
I'm like, this ain't some ship that something like yo,
I want to get write some ship.

Speaker 4 (23:58):
We studied all them cats, I know I did for sure,
Rock Him, Cool g Rap, Big Daddy.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Can I meant all the old motherfuckers?

Speaker 4 (24:09):
Oh yeah, I chucked d Yeah, chuck d Or he
had the most prolific stock there was, the craziest still
remains Ice Cube. Yeah yeah, what was your yblack making
the new album?

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Like did you have people there or did you like isolate?

Speaker 6 (24:26):
And like, yeah, I actually made it out here with
his name, John Felman. I made it with him and
shit was just in the studio. Like this motherfucker got
the craziest energy. He just always is, Like it's just
a person that like, I like, I look up to
people like him because he's always happy.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
He's always excited to create something. It's always up.

Speaker 6 (24:47):
Yeah, Like he's always just ready to create something. And
you bounce ideas back and forth, and it's like it
just is a good process. Like I'll come up with
some lyrics, then he'll be making the beat, and then
the song just comes together and it's like, oh, ship,
we made three songs in an hour.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
So y'all are doing it completely from scratch, no folders.
Yeah that yeah, because there's a lot of folder albums
out there.

Speaker 6 (25:10):
Yeah. Now that last project was straight like everything fresh,
everything fresh.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Cool.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
I like how that comes together, you know what I mean,
because there is ship you might pull from folders that
you make it work, you know what I'm saying. But
like when you do some shit from scratch, that's always
special as well, because I mean, it can't it's the
most organic form of music when everybody's in the room
and it comes out of that.

Speaker 6 (25:34):
Did you prefer like the bigger studios, like a professional
studio or like the studio at the Homies Crib.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
At the Homies Crib, we could take our time because
it's the Homies Crib, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
There was not so much pressure.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
But the problem but the problem with the Homies Crib
is that it's distractions that happened in between the process
unless you get to like do whatugs were doing.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Like if somebody was getting like, you know.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
Just distracting from what we were doing, Hey, you gotta
go right fuck out of here, you know what I'm saying.
But the but on the other end, the cool thing
about the studio is that you know you're in the
place and it gives you It either intimidates you or
gives you a certain confidence level like oh shit, we
are here, we're doing this and we're knocking this down,

(26:25):
you know what I'm saying. For me, it was a
little bit of both. I was a little bit intimidated
because you know, I'd seen others like Kid Frost and
Mellow in their studio sessions before we got on and
seeing them do the ship in these big studios, you know,
that was crazy.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
But it wasn't no pressure on me, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
I'm just there supporting right, but when it came to
our shit, it's like, oh, now it's time to deliver.

Speaker 8 (26:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
I would imagine it's like a rookie getting signed to
the pros and it's their first game and they're like
that little bit of nervous anxiety. But I'm here, shit,
you know what I'm saying. That's that's what it was
for me. Like I felt good that we were in
an official studio because that that made it feel real.

(27:13):
At the homie shit, it was like we were just
doing what we normally do. We're trying to, like, you know,
come up with an idea. But in the studio it
made it felt like real, Like oh shit.

Speaker 7 (27:22):
I mean, the only thing I like about the studio
is that you know when you in there, you there
to work.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Yeah, because time is money.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Yeah, we getting this ship though, Put that song up,
throw this up, throw it. You know, you're not playing
no game with the times.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
I can't I can't tell you how many and there
there might be a statistic on this. I don't know
if anybody's ever kept it in the music industry, but
I can't tell you how many bands gasped their fucking
album recording budget because they were in their partying and
not working.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yeah for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (27:58):
Like when I got my first when I got my deal,
Like when I first came out here, what shit was
I nineteen boom? I was broken shit for one so
I'm like shit, I mean the twenty dollars Domino's pizza
box shits or whatever. Like every day me and my
manager was sharing the hotel room and they gave me
this money. I'm like, oh shit, I look at my account.

(28:20):
I'm like damn, like okay, and you know what I did.
I just went. I just They was like, you can
have all the free studio time you want to me.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
I was like, what what the fuck?

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Right now?

Speaker 6 (28:33):
I'm just I'm in the studio though, Like the money's cool.
I'm like, shit, all right, that's cool, but let me
lock in. And I knocked out my project and that
shit just like blew up. I didn't seen because I
didn't seem like I'm glad I actually got I did
that because I didn't seen like rappers or people like,
you know, they signed, they get this money, they go shopping,

(28:53):
they go buying all this shit first, just because they
got one record. I'm like, well, shit, I got one
record right now. But I need to make like an
album or something to back this shit so I can
just have something to go on, and so I ain't
just performing one song at these shows. At least I
could have some songs are good catalog to perform when I.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
Go and do the show exactly.

Speaker 6 (29:13):
Yeah, So once I did that, it was like it
should changed for him. But I'm so glad I did it.
And at the same time, it's like I ain't realize
what was going on though. That's one thing I wish
I could go back and just like enjoy the shit
a little bit more. I was just working so hard.
I really wouldn't. I was working so hard, like all

(29:33):
the shit I was doing. I was just like by
the time I'm done doing the show or doing this
like five six seven shows a week, I.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Just want to go home.

Speaker 6 (29:40):
You wasn't seeing I don't want to be out and
go partying, dude, I just want to go back home
in my family.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
You didn't enjoy the success of it, Yeah, not really
too busy working it.

Speaker 6 (29:50):
Yeah, Like, yeah, it's like I don't. At the same time,
I don't feel like I missed nothing. You know, like
if you did it, everything is a learning. Everything's a
learning le life is. I think life goes, yeah, and
I think life goes how it's supposed to go. Like
everybody's life is different, Like we all sitting here together,
but everybody had a different come up a different life. Yeah,

(30:11):
everybody got a different story different.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
And you had a different and you had a different shit,
and you had a different focus. You know what I
mean that all that other side ship wasn't important to you.
What you did was invested in yourself, which a lot
of people don't do it. You mentioned it that like
what most people do in the beginning is that they
get they hit a little bit of a lick, and
then they're spending money that they don't got. Instead of

(30:35):
investing that, what they the little bit they do got
back in themselves and back into the music. And that
was key for you, man, because it did give you
that catalog and it showed that you were more than
just that one song, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
And that's important and you know, like consistency is everything,

(30:56):
and you followed up with that. Yeah, So I don't
think you missed anything.

Speaker 7 (31:00):
Once you get a taste of fans loving your ship,
you're gonna always want to keep bringing it to the
next level, right, yo, we gotta hit them with something,
you know, like exactly.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
Hey, you know it's better when you're investing in your
own music. Then you wait for the deal, you know,
to get the budget to record. If you have the
means to like record the Ship with without the label, right,
you could get the album, put it together the way
you want it, and then go sell it to the
label or license it to the label and it be
how you want it to be without nobody you know,

(31:36):
telling you how it should be or how they want
it to be or they can't hear a hit on
it or this or none of that nonsense. And Ship,
I mean like reinvest in yourself. And they think, you know,
more artists are doing that these days, but they didn't
do that in the beginning. They were relying on that
one fucking song and then just sitting on their hands
until they had to.

Speaker 6 (31:55):
Yeah, and it's different now with labels. They ain't just
giving anybody money. It'll just sign it. They ain't doing
that shit no more.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
No, you better doing it yourself.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
Yeah, yeah, Well what the labels are do now so
they don't have to spend all that money on you
is let you develop yourself and then when they see
you get to a certain level, then they'll come offer
you a decent enough deal. And it's different from any
deal that you then you, then you or I had
back in the day. It's definitely crafted different than what

(32:24):
it used to be. But yeah, they don't want to
spend a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
They just want to make a lot of money.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
So if you could do half the work for them,
then they'll come in and swoop and give you a deal.
If you have a like a big enough you know,
base that follows or or interact that you interact with
that that gets down with your music or whatever you're
fucking putting down, Yeah, then they get down like that

(32:51):
for a minute. Right, So a lot of the industry
A and r's were looking at YouTube for the new stars.
They weren't waiting for music to be sent over to
their desk anymore.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
I mean, you see, you go to an r's office
and you'll see boxes, boxes, Like if you're a new
artist trying to have a meeting with an n R
person about your music, and you see all these boxes
of other artists music that that motherfucker ain't ever gonna
listen to I mean, it's discouraging, right, but they don't

(33:26):
even so they don't even listen to that no more.
They're like going on YouTube, all right, who's got it
right now? Who's like ship's going viral?

Speaker 10 (33:33):
And they didn't spend a dollar that's what we want.
I mean, but it's it's it's it's it's poaching. It's
actually poaching though, because like you know, if you hit
a lick like that on YouTube, you don't need those motherfuckers, right,
But they don't they know that.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
You don't know that, I mean not you because you're
a veteran.

Speaker 6 (33:56):
And then some people don't have their ships set up
to where they're getting paid offten via or shit like that.
Like even when I first came out here or whatever
I was, I had hundreds of thousands of views whatever,
Like my shit was cool, but I ain't have no
I ain't on the beats, I ain't like shit like that.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
I didn't this shit I didn't have.

Speaker 6 (34:15):
Like once I got the money, I went back and
bought all the beats for the songs that I did
have out and shit like that.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Like, but this is shit.

Speaker 6 (34:22):
I had to learn, you know what I'm saying through time, like,
but they're not just gonna tell you this shit like
how he's saying, he just gonna tell you what to do.
And it's like even my deal might have deal when
my first deal was like a developed what it called development, yeah,
something deal with some shit like that where they like
eighteen months they help you or something. And I'm not
even realizing at the time, like I'm kind of already here,

(34:44):
but it's like, all right, I just went in there,
locked in. I'm like, look, I'm gonna call this out
and it's Life of Dark Rows. I already got all
the songs done, like all right, let's put it out,
put it out.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Boom the shit. His billboard now was doing numbers all this.

Speaker 6 (34:59):
Now it's to the point like because in my deal
was never the labels telling me.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
What to do.

Speaker 6 (35:04):
It's like they're just following my lead because anything I'm
kind of doing is working. So it's like, why are
they going to try to stop this or do this?
Like they're putching it, they're pitching their idea Like how
you said they might be like, oh, this song's hot.
I'm like, all right, I feel you on that, but
I like this and I'm looking at I'm thinking in
my heads like this motherfucker behind the desk, i't gonna

(35:26):
tell me about this shit when I know the I
know these these kids' people here that's listening into my ship.
So it's like some of the ideas worked. I ain't
gonna knock it like it did. All right, let's try this.
But it got to a point where it's just like,
all right, he wants to put out this single, he
wants to do this, now, let's just rock with it.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Shit.

Speaker 6 (35:45):
So it wasn't like I didn't have like that big
of a struggle, like with the label shit, Like I'm
thankful for that, but it do be some shit in
there where you don't like I didn't understand everything, like
Snoop told me when I went and met Snoop Dogg
and was on his pop podcast, and he told me, like,
Scott's make sure you're in every meet and make sure

(36:05):
you're on every business call. Make sure you're in all this.
Because at first I wasn't in none of this shit.
I'm like, all right, y'all, just take care of it.
I'm worried about the music. But then I learned the
game is like this shit ten percent music, ninety percent business.
You gotta be on point because you're gonna be getting fucked.
That's the crazy shit we all learned later. Yeah, yeah,
that's the thing. Like I really could have had so

(36:25):
much more money if I knew what I knew now, Yeah,
Like I really could have been in better place and
all types of shit if I knew what I knew.
But I just was like, you know what, my music
is popping shit. This all I ever wanted. I got
a little bit of bread, all right, this cool, I
ain't tripping, like but instead of actually getting what I deserve,
you know, like now I know, but I guess that

(36:45):
comes with time and growing up and shit, and then
like not having no I wouldn't say like no mentors,
but I really ain't have no Like somebody gonna ask about, yo,
what you think I should do with this? Like even
me and my manager or we came in and ship
learning together, you know what I'm saying, Like this is
like somebody I like, we we grew up together, like

(37:07):
we developed a bond and he's learning. I'm learning as
we go, Like we both learning, but it's like we
still made it through this shit, you know, Like That's
why I'm saying. The thing about life is like I
used to say there in question a line, why does
this happened to me?

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Why is this going on? Why is this this?

Speaker 6 (37:23):
But I think everything is for a reason, you know
what I'm saying, Like everything's for a reason. It builds
you to be who you are today. Like you may
not like it, you may love it, one of the two.
But I'm not gonna sit here and cry about it
and just got to deal with it.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
You know, did your father have any advice for you?

Speaker 3 (37:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (37:41):
Yeah, my father had Like see me and my father
like he knows I could say this, but like me
and my father relationship was always like.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Up and down, you know what I'm saying, relate.

Speaker 6 (37:50):
We bonded over music, Like That's what me and my
father's relationship was. You know what I'm saying. It was
music Like the father's son shit came like later on
in life, I feel like a little bit. But then
you get to a point or a young man and
you're like I don't want to hear that shit like
you my pops with you know what I'm saying, it's
just like you you bump heads because you both fell

(38:11):
away about this or that, but it's like the music
always kept us together with me.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
Was he proud when he saw you get that multi
platinum plaque? I mean he had hell.

Speaker 6 (38:21):
Yeah, hell yeah. My dad's like my dad like is
definitely one of my biggest fans at the end of
the day. Like he really supports my shit, like because
that's what he always wanted, is his dream too, you
know what I'm saying. So it's like, shit, all right,
your son made it, you know what I mean. And
it's like I got a supportive family and shit like that,
you know what I'm saying. Just like now I got

(38:43):
my own family. So it's like even when COVID and
all that shit hit, That's kind of why I took
a little break. You know, I had I had a son,
and I just wanted to like lock in. I wanted
to give my son something that I guess how to
have growing up and like being there for the moments
I could the money. He's like, all right, cool, I
know I could take care of you, but like I
want him to know God forbid if I die something

(39:03):
happened to me.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Who his dad is, Like, you.

Speaker 6 (39:05):
Know what I'm saying, and him and remember these moments
growing up and like even my girl I've been with
I've been with my girl since I before I signed
my deal, Like she was with me when I ain't
have shit.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (39:17):
Yeah, Like, I'm not even trying to get emotional on shit, bro,
but that shit you got to hurt somebody like me.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
Yeah, it's just like you got your family circle lot
that shit hit hard.

Speaker 6 (39:28):
Brocuse Like can you can be on top of the
world but you can feel so alone at the same time.
You get what I'm saying. But I know when I
go with I know when I go on my household,
this is this is my ship. I built this shit
and this is like us we're a family unit. And
I'm I'm thankful, Like that's one thing I cherished more
than anything. And now you know what I'm saying, Like

(39:49):
I was just telling my girl, like, bro, my son's
six years old. Like it's just crazy to me to
think I got six year old son. He looked just
like me, act like me. You know what I'm saying,
It's just like, shit, I cherished this ship, and I
guess that's why I took my little break. It's like
to do the father things, you know what I'm saying,
And then I got so focused on that I was
kind of like, fuck the music shit. But then I'm like,

(40:11):
it's a love hate relationship kind of with the music
shit because I love this shit, but then I hate it.
Sometimes it was just like the bullshit to come with
the shit. So it's like it's a love hate relationship
with the ship, but like I love this shit at
the end of the day. So it's still something I
always do, you know what I'm saying. And it's like,
now I'm getting back. I told you I was. I
felt like I lost my love a little bit for

(40:33):
the shit, so now I'm just getting back in my groove.
I feel like of loving this shit, like recording again
the process, like that's what it was for me to process,
Like I love making the song and shit, but then
like performing the music is really something that I enjoy
the most, is like getting on stage and showing people
my art and what I you get what I'm saying,
like type person I am, and I guess I just

(40:57):
I'm wanting people to bro like I wear my heart
on my sleeve. I'm a man at the end of
the day, Like growing up. You know what I'm saying, Like,
I'm twenty seven years old now, Bro, I didn't think
I would make it to see twenty seven, you know,
like it's a different generation and shit that we that
like I grew up in now and shit, and my
life is going so fast and everything. I just didn't
even think i'd make it to be here. So like

(41:18):
now that I'm hearing shit, it's just like I feel
like I don't know, like people got their higher powers
and shit, I believe in God, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
So I'm just thankful, Like, but he.

Speaker 6 (41:28):
Gave me through them doors and shit and showed me
things that you feel me, it felt like I needed
to learn and shit that I needed to go through
so I could be who I am today. And I
felt like as a man man, we put a lot
of that shit to the side. We don't want to
speak about it. We don't want to talk about certain things.
We don't want to you feel me. We gotta be
tough all the time. We got to do this, that

(41:49):
and the third, and I do that shit all the time.
But it's like at the end of the day, Nigga
gonna have his moments where it's like, man, you know
what I'm saying, like whoa, Like.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
Are you taking? You taking your little one to the studios?

Speaker 3 (42:02):
I don't be like now now like my crib.

Speaker 6 (42:05):
I got a studio in the crib, like so like yeah,
I mean he can come down there if he wants
or whatever, but it's not like something not forced on
him because you know, like I told my dad that recently.
Like see I told you, me and my father, we
ain't had the best relationship. So it's like I felt
like I was chasing the music shit, trying to please
my dad or something like get my pops to I
won't even say it set me, but I don't know.

(42:26):
That's just how I felt growing up. So it's like, shit,
if I do this, he'll fuck with me more or
it'll be like this. So it's like my son, I
don't want to put nothing on him. I want him
to be who he wants to be.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Bro.

Speaker 6 (42:38):
I don't want to like put no shit up here
where you gotta do this, So you gotta do that now,
Like if you want to come from the studio with
dadd and you can come. But other than that, like
my son likes you know, he's a video gamer. He
liked playing games and shit, right, yeah, he loves playing
being on a video game and shit like that. He
loves Sonic, he loves Spider Man, shit like that. I
want him to be like them, guys. I don't say,

(43:00):
and I wanted to be like a rapper. But you
know what I'm saying. After being in this shit, I
know what it comes with, and it shit can break
you down and fuck up your mental health physically be
hurt and touring all the time, your back hurt, your
legs hurt, shit like that. You know what I'm saying.
It's just like shit like you know that comes a
lot of wear and tear.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
That's real shit though a lot of people don't talk
about that, and they haven't talked about that in hip
hop is the mental health effects that it has on
you because of the pressures, the pressure of selling records
right in the time of you had to fucking sell,
and then the family times, the being away from your family,
adapting to the new environment. Because some folks could adapt

(43:41):
quickly to going on tour and not be homesick and
be on the job and like enjoying the moment, and
others were going through the motions, but not necessarily loving
to do that shit, wishing that they were back home
and like depression hit.

Speaker 7 (43:58):
I mean, this happened to a lot of mother I remember.
I remember with Big Pun he would take his family
on tour, like.

Speaker 6 (44:05):
Oh yeah, like I bring I'll bring, I'll bring my
girl to shows. I'll bring. I brought my son to
a couple of my shows and shit, and I was like, bro, like,
I don't know, I should just did sound for him.
All right, this is the push I needed to keep
going with this ship, you know what I'm saying. Shit
like that, Like, yeah, I mean that should get rough,
Like it does get rough when you spend so much

(44:26):
time on the road, right, I could tell you, like,
you know, in the first ten years of our shit,
we spent very little time at home.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
You know, we were always on the road, and all
this stuff was happening at home, you know, shit that
we could not see happening because we were out there working.
And then we had to catch up to all that
when we got back home, and you know, and then
the time away from the family and all that shit,
and to disconnect from your friends and family because you're

(44:59):
out there working that much, you know, what I mean,
and some again, some of us can adapt to that,
you know what I mean, Like I adapted to it
and it didn't really fuck with me, you know, plus something.

Speaker 6 (45:09):
Yeah, but it felt like it's I ain't mean to
cut you off, but it's like a gift in a curse.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Bro with it.

Speaker 6 (45:16):
That's how it is, because you gotta know what you're
signing up for listen Dan, But at the same time,
you don't know what you're signing up for when you're
signing up. I could tell you that's the difference. I
could tell you.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
I've seen dudes that do this at the top level,
right at the top level of what we do, where
they're performing in front of a souled out crowd. Everybody's
going crazy for the music and you know, people are
jumping up and down, and instead of elation, it's you know,

(45:50):
from and this is not from all artists, this is
from few here and there, because it's it's it's hard
to harness what this is and find the happy meat
and be happy with this ship. Some of them be
like on top of the world with the fucking career
and be like fucking like not satisfied in life because
this ship is just they don't know how to juggle

(46:12):
this or you know, or or or take themselves out
of this for a second for the reset. It's like
they let it get to them and some some just
continue this cycle till they till till they snap and
say fuck it, you know, I don't want to do
this shit no more, or some quit early.

Speaker 6 (46:28):
Now I know what you're saying, because like on the
road or I'm on the tour or whatever, like I'm
Sky's right but home, I'm ki. You get what I'm saying, Metris, Like,
ain't nobody my family calling the Scots come in.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Ain't nobody like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (46:43):
It's like you gotta know how to like all right,
I'm gonna go out here and perform, do the show,
but after this, I'm gonna go. You feel me, I'm
back to the hotel, chilling. I got another show tomorrow
or we got travel so I'm getting I'm gonna take
a shower after the show. Boom, come on, we getting
in the van wherever we driving and let's go. Let's
type mode. I'm in like you feel me? So you
gotta know, Like I see what you're saying, because some

(47:05):
people like they let all this shit go. They ruin
their relationships, all types of shit because they just like,
fuck everybody, you can't tell me nothing. Fuck the family shit,
fuck fuck the relationship shit, fuck all this shit. I
can get anything, I can have any female one, I
can do any But I don't know. I feel like
them people they they they might make up in their

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head that they're happy and shit, but they're really some
of the most fucked up people.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
You know what I'm saying. They'll put on spider face.

Speaker 6 (47:32):
Yeah, sure, yo, yeah, because I'm like, I feel like
when my familyation and shit or people that fuck with me, bro,
they know that I'm It's not even about me being real.
I'm just gonna speak how I feel. I'm always come
from the heart and that's just how I am. So
I feel like that's why they connect with me. Because
Scott's gonna speak on some ship that maybe other people
won't speak about it. He gonna be like, man, you

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know what that dude like he talking about his feelings
line in front of everybody.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
Who the fuck does that?

Speaker 3 (48:00):
Like?

Speaker 1 (48:00):
People scared to do that ship?

Speaker 6 (48:01):
You know what I'm saying, It's just like me, I'm
just I ain't trying to be nobody. I ain't trying
to be cool. I'm just I'm just being myself. I
don't know what else to do. And that's what people
relate to though, you know, like you being yourself instead
of like following the train of everybody.

Speaker 7 (48:15):
Like and a lot of people could relate to ship
you're saying to I'm going through that ship too.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
Exactly some shit.

Speaker 4 (48:23):
I mean, like when you're a cookie cutter artist, nobody
fucks with you.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
I mean they might fuck with you for a song.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
I mean, if you got to catch you a little
fucking song, But like when you got substance, that's when
people actually fuck with you beyond that song, you know
what I mean. And and like the writing that you
do and what it's about is that substance you get.
You give a lot of yourself to the people listening

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and ship vulnerabilities, that vulnerability, and you know, that's what
connects because people go through that every day, you know
what I'm saying, And when they hear someone you know
in our craft like speaking about that, they know, oh shit,
they're going through that same thing. And that becomes you
become a voice for those people, and you know, what

(49:12):
I mean.

Speaker 6 (49:12):
I feel like we need that in hip hop now
because all this shit is just shake ass, fuck this nigga.
Pop to put all this shit, it's like like it's cool,
like y'all, y'all want to turn up music or get
fucked up to music or whatever. But it's just like,
what about the art of this ship? The feeling I

(49:33):
like to listen. I want to listen to some shit
that I feel that I can relate to, Like this
ship's cool. But it's like, all right, it's a million
of them songs like that, a trillion of them songs
like that, or it's about to put shi to that,
do all this, fuck this nigga, he's a bitch, all
this whatever, and then that song's cool for what a
month or two? Now they got to come up with
another song like that because ain't nobody listening to that

(49:54):
shit no more? So what's next? And then just twents
fit the other artists doing the same shit. So it's
just like, I don't know, people just feel like they
need to get back to the rt of not like
you got me as ours. I feel like you need
to make what like your fans want too, but you
gotta do it. Feels right to you. You can't just
be trying to please everybody like, because you can't. It's impossible.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
That chasing that is the hardest deck trying to please everybody,
because you will not.

Speaker 6 (50:21):
Ye And I had to learn that this is like
life in general. I can't please every everybody. I try
to help everybody, you know, you when I got money
and all this and ever, and it's just like, at
the end of the day, ain't nobody there for me.
I don't expect you to do nothing in return. But
it's just like, man, I gaving this so much, and
it's like where to leave me? In a fucked up seat?
I think you still fucked up after I helped you,

(50:43):
said where are we at?

Speaker 4 (50:44):
I think you got to, like, as an artist, do
what you know you could live with, Like, because guess what,
Art lives forever, Music lives forever. TV shows and all
that shit. They may go off, you know, seasoned, you know,
but they live forever out there. And so when you
hear something you do years later, you're either going to

(51:08):
be like, damn, that shit was tight. We we fucking
locked in on that one, or you're like, I don't
know why we did that. You know what I mean,
And it's it's that right, like you got to do
the ship that you know you could live with for
your whole goddamn life, you know what I mean That
it's not that it's not something that that that you're
gonna hear later and cringe at. And I think if

(51:31):
you keep keep honest with yourself, you could do that.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
You know, any artists could do that.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
You know, you just don't sort of try not to
sell out your values or your integrity to do a
specific thing, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
I mean, for me, hip hop started off as a
hobby and and look what it turned in.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:52):
But I want to key in something he said earlier,
because I got to tell you, you know, a lot, a
lot of these folks to be watching shows like this
are very judgments until two when they see a young
artist come up and they you know, assume that they're
just gonna be talking that bullshit that you're.

Speaker 6 (52:07):
Like me, Yeah, like all these fucking tats and ship who.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Yeah, And I want you to just like every other.
And I watched and I watch you to key in
on what he said.

Speaker 4 (52:17):
It's about the art and telling people something something with somebstance,
not that ship that you've been hearing a thousand times
that like a thousand artists did kean off of what
my man said. It don't be so judgmental because of
the age, because there are cats his age out there
that are students of the game that be doing this

(52:39):
ship for real, that say real ship to people that
that that matters, that like you know, connects.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
I mean, if if you ever any any rapper that
was ever big is because he drops jewels and he
does something special, you know, Yeah, you.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
Know, don't judge. Don't always judge the book by its cover,
is what I'm shying to.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Y'all for sure.

Speaker 6 (53:01):
I mean, I knew it was gonna come with this
shiit saying like how I look and on the I
already knew, like, but then it'd be fucking people's heads
up once they actually get to know me and see
what's going on, and they'd be like, Okay, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
So that's why I don't.

Speaker 6 (53:14):
You don't never hear me talk bad about nobody, talk
down on anybody. You won't hear me having no beach.
You don't see me in no vlogs around and fucked up.
You don't see me in team, see none of this
shit because I don't. I don't do all that, bro.
Like I'm not one of them people. And that's good man.
You stay being you many positive. Yeah, that part for sure, Man,

(53:34):
no respect. I appreciate you having me on this shit
like that's crazy, bro, I don't understand.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
We appreciate you coming up. Man. You know what I'm saying.
We like to build bridges.

Speaker 4 (53:44):
Yeah, for sure, we don't be tearing them down now
that we ain't about that ship, you know what I'm saying.
It's twenty four year anniversary of nine to eleven. Salute
and rest in peace to the folks.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
That lost their lives that day.

Speaker 4 (53:58):
Yeah, and there's all sorts of memorials popping off and all.

Speaker 9 (54:02):
The first responders that helped, you know, you know, get
everyone together, and you know on that day, salute to
you as well.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (54:10):
Oddly enough, it's Patriots Day on this day, Patriots Day.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
The team, No, I don't you know what. I don't
know if it's the team or the day. I don't know. Berry.
Patriot Day, it is Patriots.

Speaker 11 (54:26):
Remember the innocent victims who died on September eleventh Patriots.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (54:32):
It is also National Day of Service and Remembrance, and
so we are remembering their services and all that. It
is also National School Picture Day, which I never showed
up to.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
I mean maybe two in my life. My son got
a school pictures coming up. Did you did you show
up for your school pictures? Yeah? Did you?

Speaker 6 (54:56):
Right?

Speaker 8 (54:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (54:58):
Y in the beginning, I look cool?

Speaker 4 (55:03):
So no, no, no, I'm asking like for every for
every year?

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Did you do the school pictures?

Speaker 3 (55:09):
Not every year?

Speaker 1 (55:11):
What year did you stop?

Speaker 3 (55:12):
I mean ship on it, like sixth grade or something?

Speaker 1 (55:18):
The smart move? How about you?

Speaker 3 (55:20):
I was young. When I got older, I was like.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
How about you?

Speaker 9 (55:24):
I went all the way to yeah, all the way
to high school, way to senior year, playing that ship.

Speaker 4 (55:29):
They could point they could point you out if you
ever did anything wrong. But you weren't one of those
badass kids. See I was, so I stood out of
the picture books. We already told you. I told you
that story.

Speaker 6 (55:43):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (55:43):
It is also National Hot Cross bun Day. Hot Cross
bun Okay, I see I support this. I'll get down
with that.

Speaker 9 (55:52):
Isn't that a song hot Cross bunrossun Like Mary had
a little lamb?

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Is that a song you said, yeah, I think it's fuck.
I don't know. I mean now I'm questioning.

Speaker 8 (56:03):
Yeah, I mean I remember when we remember having to
learn recorders.

Speaker 4 (56:07):
I know this is random and stupid, but you know
that song, uh, the Lights in Georgia something. It was
a nineteen seventy song. You know it's this white lady
sung this song nights in Georgia.

Speaker 9 (56:22):
So yeah, it's all right, midnight the night the lights
went out in Georgia, Nights.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
The light went out in Georgia or the night the
lights went out in Georgia.

Speaker 8 (56:31):
Okay, who sings it?

Speaker 4 (56:32):
Vicky Lawrence son, Vicky Lawrence from the Carol Burnett Show.
She actually had a fucking song out son, Hell yeah,
who would have thought there's the Vicky Lawrence Hell yeah,
that's a mama right yep, yeah, she played Mama Mama's
house right. Yes, she could actually sing. I think that

(56:53):
was her only hit though it flew to Vicky Lawrence.
That was random. I'm sorry. It's also national make your
bed day bake fucking bed b Yeah, I have to.
It drives me crazy if I don't.

Speaker 6 (57:05):
If I cannot, I don't know how it was raised
like my grandmother's holding that you get up, make your bed.
That's how you start off, Like, that's how you know
your day is gonna go good. I don't know, yeah,
but I just make my ship every everytime I get.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Up the bed is me.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
My mother was you know, two gangsters for me. You
know what I'm saying, like, you better get on, you
better make that. I ain't there to make you. And
if I didn't, so I made that bet. And now
I can't stand to see when it's not made like
I hot, you know. Yeah, so it's mostly made all
the time, you know what I'm saying. But I don't

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know there was a day for that then. Now, yeah,
there is somebody up stuff the pillows.

Speaker 6 (57:47):
Somebody took their time and collected signatures or applied this
or made this application for this make your bed day.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
But yeah, and did.

Speaker 4 (57:59):
You know it is the birthday of Mickey Hart from
The Grateful Dead, born on this day in nineteen foty three.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
Oh wow, the ultimate hippie band.

Speaker 8 (58:10):
Yeah, they're stiff out doing shows.

Speaker 4 (58:12):
Would you say that they were like a jazz rock
band or a jam jazz rock band or not a
rock band at all?

Speaker 9 (58:21):
No, they were a rock band. They were just a
jam band. I think they they like finding new shit
in their music by playing these Were they dropping acid
two though while they were doing this? Yeah, okay, that's
probably why they went on journeys and shit.

Speaker 8 (58:38):
Real quick, did you hear? Do you remember?

Speaker 9 (58:40):
The story was like a few years ago, maybe four
or five years ago, when someone had got commissioned to
clean this old keyboard that used to belong to one
of the players from Grateful Dead. So he went to
go do it, and as he was fixing, he also

(59:01):
touched and apparently it was all like he got he
had an acid trip from.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
He had an acid trip from the residue.

Speaker 9 (59:07):
From the residue on this keyboard ship and he started tripping.
He's like yo, like and then he like, They're like,
oh yeah, well we used to like you know.

Speaker 4 (59:17):
Hey, well yeah, like if they were doing acid and
if any fucking tabs or any of that fell in there,
and he touched him with his fingers, especially if he
was sweating while he was cleaning that thing. Yeah, he
was going on balls out trip right there, pure pure, yeah,
I mean, you know it is the Grateful Dead. The

(59:37):
Deadhead shows were some of the most psychedelic deals around. Yeah, yeah,
I would imagine there was weed, cocaine, shrooms and shrooms, acid,
and a bunch of other things that we probably yeah, elicit,
shouldn't list as I.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
Say, yeah, the dis you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
You know what it's a trip with YouTube these days,
is that like whenever somebody wants to say and I
you know, I could give a fuck these days because
we get flagged for everything. But if they're describing that
someone was taking drugs really in a caption, they won't
spell out drugs. They'll put out d r gs or

(01:00:22):
something like that and forget the you and assume that
you know that that means drugs because they don't want
to say the word or spell it for the sake
of the yellow flag that comes with YouTube by saying
certain words like sexual, like someone will say sule instead
of sexual. All right, Yeah, so I just put up

(01:00:44):
flags for our show right now, just to give you
this example how they fuck with us but.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
We don't care. All right.

Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
Did you know it is the birthday of Tommy Shaw
of the band Sticks born on this dad nineteen fifty three,
Tomo Bigato, mister Rabato, yep, Tom Shaw they had some jams. Oh,
stick's got some heat. They were a little weird, but well, yeah, they.

Speaker 9 (01:01:11):
Were coming in on that like seventies prog rock kind
of like, you know, and then they were also wearing
shiny suits.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
And they also were trying to be like theatrical.

Speaker 9 (01:01:20):
Yeah, that was the thing in those days, you know,
like you know, people were, you know, trying to be.

Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
Like the level they're trying to do the who kind
of Yeah, but in the space age type of deal.
You got to check this shit out. It's it's ridiculous,
but some of it's good.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
It's weird.

Speaker 8 (01:01:38):
Yeah, did you know.

Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
It is the birthday of Moby born on this day
at nineteen sixty five. Yes, he'd been gone since Eminem
put him to bed. Yeah, he's been out here. He
lives in La Now, that's good for him. Eminem gave
it to this guy. He deserved it. You know, this
guy for a minute was doing around where like you

(01:02:01):
know how they he was on like VMA's, Grammys and
and bill Board Awards and ship like. It was a
known thing that if he got on stage with you,
he was gonna tap your fucking He was good, give
you a fucking ball.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Tap ball tap.

Speaker 4 (01:02:19):
Yeah, apparently, and every you know, it got around to
some of us that you know who might have been
around him at some point, because you know, we were
doing some of the same festivals he was doing. Like, hey, man,
if he gets dex to us and he tries that ship,
we're gonna beat him up. We're gonna beat his ass
for a nut check, no way.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
Did you know.

Speaker 4 (01:02:44):
Harry Connick Junior born was born on this day nineteen
sixty cent and old Harry Conic junior, y junior.

Speaker 9 (01:02:53):
Yeah he got h he got man, he got you know,
he got some great music. And he's a good actor too. Yeah,
he's a good actor. Yeah, he comes along those crooner
like old Frank Sina a good bend leader too, Yes,
yeah that part.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Did you know?

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
It is the birthday of the legendary Ludacris born on
this day in nineteen seventy seven. Stand up, lad, but
then sit back down and chill out. You know what
I'm saying, one of the best to ever. I like
Ludacris's catalog a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
Alright. Yeah, he got bars.

Speaker 9 (01:03:25):
He got bars, he got and he picks amazing beats
that he gets.

Speaker 6 (01:03:29):
His beats was challenging, you know what I mean from everybody.

Speaker 9 (01:03:34):
Now, now he had DJ Quick Timberland premiere. I always
thought it would have tunes.

Speaker 4 (01:03:40):
I always thought it'd be dope if if him and
Bust the Rhymes did a joint together, you know what
I'm saying. Yeah, they got that outrageous ship and their
voices just like be cutting yea, and they both can
spit that rapid fire ship.

Speaker 9 (01:03:54):
And they got plenty of cadences they could just come up.
I mean, those duds.

Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
I'm surprised they have it. Man, come on, y'all, y'all
got to get with it. We got to hear a
Bust to rhyme Luta Chris Anthem of some sort, you
know what I'm saying. Did you know in two thousand
and one Jay Z dropped The Blueprint? Yeah, classic material,
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:04:20):
Oh yeah, it was on the day.

Speaker 9 (01:04:22):
Yeah yeah, that was a while because it was like
the build up to it was dope, you know what
I mean, and then like nine to eleven happened. But
this album is still persevere through all of it, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
And some the fucking Blueprint, man, that's a great record.

Speaker 9 (01:04:37):
Shot to Jess Blaze and did you know in two
thousand and seven Kanye West drop graduation. Ah, this is
my favorite, I think, well, my first favorite is Yeesus.

Speaker 8 (01:04:47):
I love that album.

Speaker 9 (01:04:48):
But this album right here man from the steely Dan
flip to the man, this is good.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
The artwork was dope on it.

Speaker 9 (01:04:56):
Yeah, Champion is much Barry Bonds with Lil Wayne Lights
this clou can't tell me nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
All them songs. This hits for real.

Speaker 9 (01:05:03):
Yeah, real right. There's not one bad song on that record.
That's the thing about dude. He knows how to put
an album together. Man, for sure. He was unstoppable at
this out.

Speaker 6 (01:05:15):
Man.

Speaker 9 (01:05:15):
It was so dope. Man, and I wonder word up.
We're about to open up the doors to the insane asylum.

Speaker 4 (01:05:23):
That means y'all in the live chat, got a comic question,
shout out suggestion, we are here for it. I smash
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Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
Welcome to the insane messigh love all right, Tom, And
here's asking the table.

Speaker 11 (01:05:52):
Is social media and SoundCloud still an effective tool for
promoting music.

Speaker 4 (01:05:56):
Because I'm here. I think SoundCloud still definitely. What do
you think, which you think? Yeah, Like, what do you mean,
is it's still like relevant enough to like promote your
music on.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 6 (01:06:12):
I don't know, say, I don't really be on SoundCloud
no more, but coming up like me, that's what that
was my main platform.

Speaker 4 (01:06:20):
Yeah, like that spin. I think it's necessary. I think
it's necessary for new artists sound for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
Yeah, SoundCloud is important.

Speaker 6 (01:06:29):
It's a good way you can you can release your
like I don't know, you can show all your work,
you know what I mean At the time, and I
was doing. I don't know if they charge you now
or whatever. But you create account, you upload your music,
chose your plays, your likes, you know what I mean.
People can comment on their favorite part of the song,
like that. Shit was cool.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
It was cool.

Speaker 8 (01:06:48):
I used to put mixes on soundcload fun.

Speaker 4 (01:06:50):
Yeah, people still are putting up a bunch of shit
up there, like Lord Sear from Shade forty five spots.
But man, lord sir, you'd be putting up mixtapes on
SoundCloud left and right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
Dope with this too. I gotta say, Yeah, it's still useful,
all right.

Speaker 11 (01:07:05):
Megan's asking, now, little Skies, Uh, how did becoming a
father change your perspective on making and releasing music?

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
How did it change my perspective?

Speaker 6 (01:07:16):
I mean only thing having a son that just made me,
like made me tighten up, like I feel like tighten up, like.
I still gonna make my music. I'm gonna still do
my thing like because that's that's what I do, That's
what I love. But I mean I do keep in
the back of my back of my mind, all right,
my son's gonna listen to this, but I don't know.
My son loved my music, so still I still do

(01:07:38):
my thing like.

Speaker 4 (01:07:39):
It's it's it's crazy that you bring that up, because
how many motherfuckers that are you know, eventually that are
young artists that are talking that wild ship that eventually
are going to have maybe kids, and if their daughters,
they got to explain that ship, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
that's that's that's that's the wild shit that some of

(01:08:01):
those fathers, unless they're gonna be the type of fathers,
they ain't having a relationship with their daughters. You know
what I'm saying for sure, which would be horrible. Yeah, Yeah,
that sucks all right.

Speaker 5 (01:08:13):
I was reading this. Is this true?

Speaker 11 (01:08:15):
It says Sky's claim, if he was not rapping, he
would like to do some bear grills type shit, some
outdoor stuff and his favorite hobby is fishing.

Speaker 5 (01:08:23):
Is that true?

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Yeah? For sure.

Speaker 6 (01:08:25):
I like like the outdoor shit and they're funny for that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 6 (01:08:30):
Yeah, I like, yeah, I like like, I like Bear
Gral's Survivor Man and shit, and I'll be watching videos
on YouTube about just like people going to the island
surviving three days with just like a fishing pole. You
ever see that show alone? Yeah, yeah, that's cool too.
I like niked in the phrase cool too. It's all right.

(01:08:52):
But like Survivor Man was like just him and the camera.
That's why I like that Bear Grail he had a
crew with him. Environ Man was a little more realistic.
But bart Girls is still Bear Girls. So like, I
don't know, like now, would I be doing that ship
if I wasn't making music? Probably not, But you know

(01:09:12):
what I mean, Yeah, I like that ship though I'm
in the ship like that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:16):
Yeah, you have a plan on going to any type
of I mean, I don't know if they got courses
for that type of ship. But I mean, I'm sure
they got like some sort of I.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
Mean I would if bear girls hit me up and I
was like, oh you are coming.

Speaker 4 (01:09:33):
It's gonna get to him and he's gonna be calling you.
I got listen, mag I gotta did that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
Yeah, I got it. I got a place. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:46):
Yo.

Speaker 11 (01:09:46):
The Survivor man, dude, he's wild. He does his own
filming and yeah, go out there with cameras.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
That's why I said, he's like the real deal.

Speaker 6 (01:09:54):
Like he looks out there by himself for the camera,
looks like Bolton's uncle and ship.

Speaker 11 (01:09:58):
You know, you've watch that dual Survivor where the guy
that he doesn't wear any kind of shoes.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
Yeah, the other guy's like a hippie, right, yeah, got
the long hair. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:10:07):
I see those survivors fire. I think they got it
doing to be. I don't know why people hate on
to be and ship y'all, y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
I live off.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
Oh yeah, we we'd be watching to b shit shit.

Speaker 6 (01:10:20):
And then heybody having all the old classics, so damn
ship crackle too, classics.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
It's always crackle. Yeah, we're all with it. That's right.

Speaker 11 (01:10:30):
Jacob's asking you'll be real I want to know if
the team was treated with respect and honor while visiting
albert Querque, New Mexico, and would you guys ever come back?

Speaker 4 (01:10:38):
Of course we would come back. I mean we've been
going there since the nineties. It's it's popping. They love
hip hop, they fuck with Cypress Hill. There are some
weed heads out there because it's legal. Yeah, man would
do Mexico, so we will definitely be coming back.

Speaker 11 (01:10:54):
Tom's saying I would love to see cypers Hill write
a song from start to finish. Y'all have been making
some great content. That'd be a cool like documentary or
a video.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
I could do that for you.

Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
But the thing is, I always had a pet peeve
of someone looking over them over my shoulder while I'm writing,
because people used to do that, you know, when occasionally
someone would come into the studio until they got kicked out,
you know what I mean, Like mugs would notice something.
It'd be like, no fuck out, but yeah, you know,

(01:11:25):
one of the homies might come to the studio and
see that I'm writing and try to look on the paper.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
And that used to fucking bug the fuck out of me.

Speaker 4 (01:11:33):
So in terms of like being able to be open
and having like a camera dude in my face or
over my shoulder looking at what I'm writing. I would
have to still like sort of get past that part,
like for people to see it. I mean, if they're
not looking at what I'm writing and they're just kind

(01:11:53):
of like look at me doing the writing, but they're
not seeing it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
I could handle that.

Speaker 4 (01:11:58):
But seeing what I'm writing as I'm writing it, that
that that that would have to be. I would have
to get over that part because it's.

Speaker 8 (01:12:07):
Like over your shoulder.

Speaker 4 (01:12:08):
I don't want no one judging what I'm writing as
I'm writing it because it has to go through a
process in my head to like finish line for line.
But I'm just saying that that that would be I
could do it. I would just have to get over
that part, like of people getting to see the lines
before I finished them, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
But I could do it. I mean, whatever I put
my goddamn mind to, I could do. So there's that.
It's so can you all right?

Speaker 11 (01:12:38):
Next, Medicine's asking has Little Skies ever done psychedelics?

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
Hell no, no, mushrooms did not my mind?

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
All right.

Speaker 6 (01:12:47):
I'm a deep thinker, bro, Like, I think too much
for that ship, I hear you. So it's not no
good or bad trip with me. It's gonna be I
don't know. That's why I can do you think you
go too deep?

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
Oh yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:13:00):
I just already think crazy. So it's like I don't
want to be like that's what I'm saying. I have
a bad trip then I don't know what's gonna happen
and ship it's just like kind of scary, I guess
to me, I don't know. I don't got nothing against
people to do it. Yeah, everybody's eating shrooms now and ship.

Speaker 4 (01:13:15):
Yeah that but well a lot of people are doing
microdoses these days.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
Yeah whatever that is. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:13:21):
That's like taking the minimal aspect of it. So did
it sort of? It doesn't give you the psychedelic ship
or or make you go in too deep. Yeah, you
don't trip. It's more like the body feeling. But what
are you doing it for it? Well, you know, some
people are using it for therapy, like a lot of

(01:13:41):
a lot of therapists are using it on their on
their patients for depression and for anger and ship like that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
Should I know that?

Speaker 4 (01:13:49):
Oh yeah, it's it's uh they've been using it as
of late, they've they've been trying to use it more
microdoses though, and in some cases they'll go beyond the
micro but they want the therapists to be there to
guide the patient through the ship, to help connect the dots.
So they're just not wilding out in their own head,

(01:14:10):
you know what I mean. But yeah, it's a process.
It's not for everybody. He's right, just like weed isn't
for everybody. You know, people think anybody could just smoke
some weed. There's some people that, like, you know, they
smokes weed, and you know, it just doesn't agree with
them the same way it does with others.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
And that's a fact. All right.

Speaker 11 (01:14:32):
Let's see here we got a midge of Mike. He's saying,
you know, the Deftones got fined in two thousand dollars
because they didn't finish the album on time.

Speaker 4 (01:14:41):
Wow, who said, where'd that come from? Where'd that story
come from? I never heard that?

Speaker 11 (01:14:47):
What source of two thousand? Two thousand and one? Let
me see here? That's yeah, White Pony album.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
Who was quoted as saying that.

Speaker 9 (01:14:56):
I think she said that in a in an article. Yeah,
that like they got fined for not having well.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
Then it must be true.

Speaker 5 (01:15:04):
Yeah, I didn't know that was a thing.

Speaker 11 (01:15:06):
Yeah, like on this day, it has to be done
like I need, like I need a week last.

Speaker 4 (01:15:10):
I mean, like, I don't know how many shows I've
mentioned this, Bolton, but I have mentioned it. So you
have not paid attention that when you have a turn
in date, right if you're on a major label like
the Deaftones, and I know because that's you know, Cypress Hills,
we spent like sixteen seventeen years on a major label,
you have a turnin date for each album that you negotiate,

(01:15:33):
and if they gave you a whole lot of money
for that particular album and it's expected to be out
on this date. Every month that that album isn't out,
they are taxing you whatever is in that contract. I mean,
I don't know what was in the Deaftones contract, and
I don't know how long they took how long they

(01:15:55):
went past their their turn in date, but it could
be anywhere from five thousand into ten thousand dollars a
month that they're taking back from that budget. So if
they gave you a couple million dollars, you know what
I'm saying that some of that is going down each
month that you don't turn it in after that date.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
We got tax like that ourselves.

Speaker 4 (01:16:18):
Because we took a little bit long, but we didn't
get hit that hard, not for no fucking million.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
No way mugs was having that.

Speaker 7 (01:16:26):
I mean, when you on those on those big labels,
you know they got release dates that you gotta deliver them.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
The money. They got a lot of ship planned already.

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
David bested money on that release date, and if you
fuck it up, they take money back and it's going
to be significant.

Speaker 7 (01:16:45):
That happened to us one one the for one of
the albums, and we have to just hand in whatever
the fuck we had. We didn't even get time to
finish up. And that's the one we called. We called
take It to Squeeze It because we were like, yo,
take it a squeeze it.

Speaker 8 (01:17:03):
No ship, that's the one you guys, just like.

Speaker 7 (01:17:06):
Because they was rushing us. So we was like, all right, here,
fuck it, just take it and take it a squeeze it. Yeah,
And that's how we called the album.

Speaker 4 (01:17:14):
And so yeah, I think it might have been Temple
of Boom that we took some extra time with and
they might have taxed us for that one, and then
after that, Muggs didn't take his time. He was on
the money every time because he didn't want nobody getting taxed,
right because you know that takes away from your budget.

(01:17:36):
Don't want that. That's right, all right?

Speaker 5 (01:17:40):
My fair is asking a little skies, did you ever
work with Triple X?

Speaker 9 (01:17:44):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:17:45):
People asked me that all the time. I think I
answered that ship like a hundred times.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
Nah, I never have.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
If I did, I'm sure it would have been an hour.
So but no, I never have.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
No.

Speaker 6 (01:17:56):
I talked to him a couple of times, but it
was just one of some like normal shit like I'm
telling him to keep his hat up, he telling me
to keep my head up, that type of shit like
it wasn't even know, no rapper shit.

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
Yeah, just some human being ship. Yeah, really, just some
human being shit.

Speaker 5 (01:18:12):
Stupid.

Speaker 11 (01:18:12):
Almanac is saying the Upside Down single featuring Charlie Tune
and be Real is out now. Yes, it is saying
limited edition merch as well, get some.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
Artist fire go get it.

Speaker 4 (01:18:25):
Salute the slightly stupid for you know, put me on
that with Charlie.

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
Charlie Madden.

Speaker 11 (01:18:33):
The super Chat is saying a show to you Little Skuys.
Thank you for being on the show. You're a very
humble and real individual. Keep doing what you're doing, and
I'm a fan of your music, and thank you to
be real.

Speaker 6 (01:18:42):
Much love, much love. Yeah, thank you for the support.
I appreciate it. That's all right. I'm just happy to
be here.

Speaker 11 (01:18:49):
And shit, we got a lot of people in here
asking be real about the Serial Killers album?

Speaker 5 (01:18:55):
Is that gonna drop?

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:18:57):
Absolutely, first singles go be coming out soon. I can't
really tell you what it is because I don't be
keeping up with that type of shit, but I could
tell you yes that the new music is coming soon,
produced by Scoop Deville and yeah, get ready for some

(01:19:18):
more super charge shit.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
You know what I'm saying. We just keep working over here.

Speaker 5 (01:19:21):
We do, and that seems to be it so far.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
Word up.

Speaker 4 (01:19:25):
Salute to all y'all in the live chat that pop
them super chats off. If we see more as we go,
we take them, you know how we do.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
Salute to all y'all out there.

Speaker 4 (01:19:37):
Yeah, I mean, we strive to keep busy our circle
of people's You know what I'm saying, Less is always working,
Bobo is always working on something. Myself, I can't stop working.
I mean, not that I want to, but if I
wanted to, I couldn't stop just because it's you know,

(01:19:58):
like Jesus.

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
But it's good to be working, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:20:02):
There's there's other motherfuckers that that ain't as fortunate as
we are to like be doing the ship that we
love to do.

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
What was that blip? Yeah, it's like, oh ship.

Speaker 8 (01:20:13):
It was like there's a similation.

Speaker 4 (01:20:15):
Yeah, they're tapped, they're they're they're tapping our lines now
you mean just glitched?

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:20:21):
No, we're fortunate to be able to do what we do.
So you know what I mean I said, I keep working.
It's just the momentum of it. I guess like vacations
don't exist for me, although I probably need one.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
You know, high as hell. You're high as hell right now?

Speaker 4 (01:20:41):
Yeah, I mean you only smoked one joint.

Speaker 3 (01:20:45):
I smoked the whole joy and then.

Speaker 4 (01:20:47):
I'm okay, Oh, I say, I'm looking at that bottle
now and I'm realizing what happened.

Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
There is good.

Speaker 5 (01:20:55):
It's the fucking you got a mixture today, you know?

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
Oh yeah we do huh ship?

Speaker 8 (01:21:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:21:02):
All right, well I'm ready do it I'll go. You
know what I'm saying, You know me, I stay at
the ready. Yeah, the drunk mix or the faded mix,
because there's a difference.

Speaker 8 (01:21:17):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:21:18):
You know we had a homie rest in Peace that
used to be able to mix. Well, he was completely
fucking hammered. I don't know how he didn't fall over
the fucking turntables, you know what I'm saying, because he'd
be like talking to you, sloppy, drunk, but mixing the
ship out of the out of the turntables, and you know,

(01:21:39):
like you wouldn't like if you didn't talk to him,
you wouldn't know until you talk to.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
Him, and they sha.

Speaker 4 (01:21:47):
I mean he can't even form words and ship, but
he's mixing like a pro.

Speaker 8 (01:21:53):
Oh man, the same yeah, same guy.

Speaker 9 (01:21:55):
I'd see him be like like like struggling to end
up and even like still, but it came time to
mix and from one song to the other, and it's flawless.

Speaker 7 (01:22:08):
I mean, you know, as a DJ, you know those
drinks is coming by right from the bar like we
got you, we got you, and it's only gonna make
the mix a little better sometimes.

Speaker 9 (01:22:21):
Yeah, I mean, you can't overdo it, but yeah, it's
the overdoing part.

Speaker 4 (01:22:26):
Yeah, we're gonna have fun. Don't overdo it. Don't fall
on the turntables, no, thank you. Don't spill some ship
on the turntables.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
In the mix.

Speaker 8 (01:22:36):
That was.

Speaker 4 (01:22:37):
That was the other thing that I was surprised was
that he never dropped any drinks in the turntable as
loaded as he would be while he was mixing. I
mean he didn't mix loaded all the time, but when
he was on one, yeah, the drunk mix for real,
oh man, And it'd be crazy like that, the songs

(01:23:01):
he would like throw in the mix because you then
you would know he's like, oh shit, he's all over
the place.

Speaker 9 (01:23:07):
He's loaded, but always on beat. But oh it's all beat, dude.
And it was like flawless, like you go from like
and these two songs would sound great together for eight
bars and he and you would see him he's struggling
just to like stand up, and all of a sudden,
the smoothest transition, you're like yeah, And he would do

(01:23:29):
it for like an hour.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
Yeah, he had it down to an art form.

Speaker 8 (01:23:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
I could not mix loaded now, not like that. Fuck no,
I'm sure, but.

Speaker 4 (01:23:39):
Y'all would be carrying me out and I loaded, y'all
would be carrying me the fuck out.

Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
I have done it before, but I would and recommend it.

Speaker 9 (01:23:47):
Y'all would be like, Hey, break the dolly, we're gonna
wiel this fucker out. Like when you're struggling to listen
to the song and your bang, You're like, Yo, how
the fuck am I going to do this? Because you're
just so tossed. Oh that's that's when. Yeah, that's when
the adventure begins. You're like, oh, man, let me keep this.

Speaker 8 (01:24:05):
Ah, man.

Speaker 9 (01:24:09):
Goes nothing boom, and then like I didn't I made it.
I made it Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
The next Yeah, no, I don't drink like that. Nah
that used to be. I'll stick to the weed, thank you.

Speaker 8 (01:24:20):
Yeah all right.

Speaker 11 (01:24:22):
Angel, And here's asking skuys you ever plan on dropping
thank god?

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:24:30):
Yeah, you're saying, I noticed you un archived the snippet
on Instagram.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
Did I know I did that? God?

Speaker 3 (01:24:42):
I know I did that. But yeah, I mean, yeah,
I'll jump it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
They Yeah, what was it? What was it? A song
of you or iffy about?

Speaker 3 (01:24:52):
I mean, it's just.

Speaker 6 (01:24:53):
Old as ship bro like, but I guess the world
hasn't heard it.

Speaker 4 (01:24:56):
So it's like, yeah, well, you know sometimes the day
one fans they want to hear the old ship exactly,
I release it ship Like.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
That's that's the thing with us.

Speaker 4 (01:25:06):
We could release something new tomorrow as Cyprus Hill to
our fans and they'll they'll appreciate it, But when we
go play a show, they would rather hear the old ship.
Did us play the new ship? No matter how much
they might like the new ship. It's the weirdest thing.
And you have to kind of sprinkle the set with
the new ship if you're gonna put it in there

(01:25:27):
as opposed to play a whole big chunk of it, right,
Because I remember doing that and I was like, damn,
these motherfuckers, you know, like I could see they absorbing
and appreciate the song, but yeah, they don't know how
to react to it when it's new new, unless it's

(01:25:49):
unless it's yeah, they gonna feel it real.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:25:52):
Okay, if it's in rotation somewhere and everybody's making a
big deal, yeah, then they're gonna move to it. But
just interest do sing to them on a dry run
with no hype on it, you kind of know if
you got something there, because if if they move, it's like, oh, ship.

Speaker 6 (01:26:10):
I made a move with some ship they don't know about.
But if they didn't do ship, you know, Okay, maybe
I got to rework this.

Speaker 3 (01:26:20):
But you know, when you got fans, they know.

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
They know what the real ship is.

Speaker 3 (01:26:25):
For sure you got some ship, Yeah, for sure, got.

Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
Some sure word up.

Speaker 4 (01:26:33):
All right, let's get into submissions right here, run him
if you got them.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
Suficis sub suficients.

Speaker 11 (01:27:06):
All right, first one of the day. Here, we got
Megan up in here saying, hey, guys, sorry, it took
so long to send this over. My phone got messed up.
The day of the show, it rained for five hours straight.
The show was great, and I was sad I didn't
get to meet all of y'all, but at least I
got a chance to meet Bobo and give you guys gifts.

Speaker 4 (01:27:22):
Thank you so much. And that's a dope flag right
there is sick. I like the color scheme.

Speaker 3 (01:27:34):
Gooball linguo.

Speaker 4 (01:27:37):
He was saying, yeah, I would say, you're probably right.

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
Oh that's a nice one right there, to.

Speaker 5 (01:27:45):
Day saying she made a bunch of banners and gave
them out to strangers.

Speaker 1 (01:27:49):
Nice.

Speaker 8 (01:27:49):
Cool, that's dope.

Speaker 1 (01:27:52):
That is really dope. Bobo receiving the gifts. Hey, what's this?
What's that? He thinks he's invisible.

Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
Splinterselves.

Speaker 9 (01:28:12):
No, he's just a splinter, like the dude from Grandma's
Boy that tries to hide in the black Ball.

Speaker 1 (01:28:19):
Yeah, why can't they see me?

Speaker 3 (01:28:23):
Shadow?

Speaker 8 (01:28:23):
Yeah, shadow Man, the.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
Ninja, the SPLINTERA.

Speaker 5 (01:28:36):
You've got Trace right there too.

Speaker 11 (01:28:41):
First of all, that's pretty funny since the people tune
into the podcast now, they're always checking out, like a
ton on the stage, Like, where's a ton at?

Speaker 5 (01:28:52):
Where's Trace at?

Speaker 4 (01:28:54):
You know, it's not even supposed to be on the stage.
I gave him a rule that he has to shoot
shots off stage, and yet he found himself on stage
and doing the shots that I didn't want.

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
But he still did a good job.

Speaker 3 (01:29:08):
So you come in a star man.

Speaker 4 (01:29:11):
He has to be seen on stage, seen but unseen
because he does. Like what's crazy is that the people
who watch our show, they go to these shows, they
know exactly who he is. He's not hiding from them
with that little as masks. We know it's Atan. It's
the other folks who may not watch the show, they
just know Cypress Hills here. Blah blah blah blah, blah.

(01:29:33):
They don't necessarily watch Doctor Green Thumb show. They're like,
who the fuck is this guy with the mask? Why
is he always in the way?

Speaker 3 (01:29:43):
Get out the.

Speaker 9 (01:29:44):
Way, hey, move buddy, right and be rude. You're not invisible,
g you know that type of shoe.

Speaker 8 (01:29:57):
Can't see me, can't.

Speaker 1 (01:30:01):
Yeah, absolutely all right.

Speaker 11 (01:30:03):
We got to give a big show to dj C
minus last night.

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
Oh dj C minus hit that one eighty eight last night?

Speaker 8 (01:30:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:30:11):
Yeah, yeah, did that had that four in a row strikes?

Speaker 4 (01:30:17):
Yep, it's your start too. It's like that, the three
spars and the strike. Yeah, and wait, you had give
me a fucking break. You had three open frames and
you still got that. It was because your last fucking
three frames and I did that. My one sixty five
looked very close to that except for that my three

(01:30:40):
open frames were shittier than your three open for it.

Speaker 9 (01:30:45):
Did it was like that's I think that was the
first game like where I started to like.

Speaker 8 (01:30:51):
Get the groove.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
Yeah, I had my ball.

Speaker 4 (01:30:54):
I was in the groove last night, but like I choked,
you know, two and three open frames on two big games,
Like I had a won sixty five and a one
sixty three at least that's big for us because we're
trying to get to two hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:31:07):
We're not pros, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (01:31:11):
I noticed I kept throwing and all the ball they
kept going to the right, when mostly I'm a straight shooter,
you know what I mean. It's something about it. Last night,
I just it all just kept veering to the right,
and I was.

Speaker 4 (01:31:21):
Because they were extra polished and they had not been
touched those floors we were bowling on.

Speaker 7 (01:31:28):
I'm still I'm still not at that point where I
want to own a bowling ball like that should have
a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:31:34):
To listen, you know, I get that, But I feel
more comfortable sticking my fingers in my ball than some
random ass ball. I don't know where somebody else's fingers been.
They could be scratching their ass and they stuck their
fingers in that bullet ball.

Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
I can't. You know what I mean. I got to
have mine. I swear to God.

Speaker 5 (01:31:59):
All right, guys, you get bowling or not?

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
Yeah, I fuck with bowling heavy.

Speaker 9 (01:32:03):
Yeah you just went recently, right, Yeah, I just went
like last weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:32:08):
We gotta we gotta hit you up when we go next. Yeah,
I'll go over.

Speaker 6 (01:32:12):
Yeah, you have and everything, make it there now, Yeah,
there yet, I got a technique.

Speaker 1 (01:32:19):
Yeah, I like the curve. Yeah, I do the curve ship.
See that. I know you bowl because like you know,
it's you got the curve ship. Yeah yeah, I'm all right,
I get you know, practice a little more. I'm decent.

Speaker 4 (01:32:35):
Yeah, we're trying to get more more games going on ourselves.

Speaker 7 (01:32:41):
It's all about getting the right weight. Yeah yeah, not
too heavy, not too light, you know he wanted right there.

Speaker 4 (01:32:49):
Yeah, if it's too light, you might overthrow. And like
that ship. Trace got that ship down though, Like he
you know, he's like six three and he rolling a
twelve pounds all he throws that ship like a lightning
fun like a lightning bolt.

Speaker 1 (01:33:06):
But it's a twelve pounds ball.

Speaker 4 (01:33:08):
Yeah yeah, should be a fourteen is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
But you know, hey, that's my opinion. All right.

Speaker 11 (01:33:15):
Next, what's your style of rolling called? But when you
throw it well with the two hands, yeah, with the
two hands, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:33:21):
I think it's a two hands.

Speaker 3 (01:33:25):
Row to throw.

Speaker 4 (01:33:26):
Well, there's two ways to knock it with the with
the two hands, right, there's the somewhat of a toss,
right where when you hit the line, the ball is
in the air for a certain time till it hits
the arrow. There's that, right, It's that's like a throw right.
And then there's a role where you roll it from

(01:33:46):
the line. And I don't know if there's a difference,
you know, in terms of the terminology between those two styles.
This guy's rolling from the line. See that he doesn't
throw it. He rolls it from the line where other
guys will toss it and it you know, maybe a

(01:34:08):
few feet or a foot whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:34:10):
You need those two hands to flip to do the spin.

Speaker 4 (01:34:13):
Yeah, well that it makes it makes the curve easier. Yeah,
Like because I like, I can't. I can't with one hand,
I can't get that that spin.

Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
With two hands, I could definitely get it.

Speaker 3 (01:34:26):
They should have rules like that ship is cheating.

Speaker 4 (01:34:29):
No, No, the pros to this. The pros do this.
That's not cheating. Why is it cheating?

Speaker 7 (01:34:35):
You still gotta with two hands and I'm over here
just doing one hand style.

Speaker 1 (01:34:40):
Well, why don't you do two hands? Then that's not bowling.

Speaker 3 (01:34:44):
B there you go it.

Speaker 9 (01:34:50):
One hand, Come on you, we was raised on both
one hand, two hands.

Speaker 3 (01:34:54):
It's supposed to one hands came later.

Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
It did come a little later, but still bowling.

Speaker 4 (01:35:00):
It's still like it took a technique to make that
happen though, because that means just because you could spin
the ball and make a curve, doesn't you got to
make sure you landed in the right place.

Speaker 9 (01:35:11):
So is the two hand is that considered new style?
I mean it's unorthodox. I don't know when it was introduced,
it is unorthodox. Yeah, most people roll with one hand,
but more people that you see in the PGAs now
are rolling with two hands. And then there's some people
that will, like you know, they'll roll their first ball

(01:35:32):
with two hands and then their second ball with one hand.
See how he threw his balls as opposed to the
other guy who he rolled it. Look, he throws it,
damn he throws it towards the middle, but going in
a diagonal. See that that's.

Speaker 4 (01:35:52):
What that's that's the that's the role Aton is trying
to get. But he has he can't. He can't get
the diagonal part right yet. Yeah, he's so close, He's
so close. Yet so far here's a cycle lest bowling.

Speaker 1 (01:36:12):
With the earth ball.

Speaker 4 (01:36:13):
Yeah no, see that's see that's you probably got it
to see that's fucked up. That's unacceptable right there. That part,
to me, is unacceptable. It will blow out your back
right there. Yeah, get a hernia trying to push that
ball like that. Man, Hell no, thank you, granny granny roll,

(01:36:37):
two handed roll and then the two handed granny roll.

Speaker 6 (01:36:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:36:41):
I mean whatever, you're good with one.

Speaker 9 (01:36:43):
Head, you don't need you got it. Yeah, I like
the one hand too, just makes it more. Hey, well, listen,
the two headed guys miss too. You know what I'm saying.
They missed too. They're not always knocking them all down
all the whole time. It's just not possible.

Speaker 4 (01:36:59):
So it's like they would have any other advantage that
like a one headed roller dope.

Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
It's just different style, all right.

Speaker 11 (01:37:08):
And the less less emission Right here is we got
little wise. He's saying, Yo, guys, my thermostat broke out
here in Missouri and it's going to be hell I
need fall out here right now.

Speaker 5 (01:37:19):
Eighty six, eighty eight ninety one. He has no ac.

Speaker 1 (01:37:22):
That's pretty hot.

Speaker 5 (01:37:23):
That's hot out there in humid ass Missouri.

Speaker 8 (01:37:27):
Oh yeah, the humidity. Yeah, we've been getting some over
here in California.

Speaker 5 (01:37:33):
He still got legal weed out in Missouri.

Speaker 8 (01:37:35):
So there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:37:36):
You console yourself with some weed.

Speaker 4 (01:37:40):
Human ass. That's the thing, man, smoking weed. Like when
it's hot, it's it's tough. It'll put you to sleep. Yeah,
does down?

Speaker 1 (01:37:50):
I don't know if it cools you down, I don't
think so.

Speaker 11 (01:37:53):
I take a dab, I start to free days.

Speaker 8 (01:37:56):
Sure, that's sure. Yeah, you're right, all right? Scratched that.

Speaker 6 (01:37:59):
Yeah, No, it's it's hard spoken weed out in the
dead ass heat and it's humid.

Speaker 4 (01:38:04):
Like it's it's almost like you got a cold beer. Yeah,
it's almost like you don't want to be bothered with it,
like yeah, yeah, you're right. Maybe in the shade, in
the shade maybe, or in an air conditioned place, yes, like.

Speaker 1 (01:38:19):
Such as, Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:38:25):
You guys.

Speaker 1 (01:38:25):
You got any shows coming up? Yeah? Tomorrow? Oh yeah
that's right.

Speaker 6 (01:38:31):
Yeah, yeah, I gotta shut tomorrow like Trippy Red Who
is it Trippy Red? Young pant Yeah there it is
boom boom bang at the Toyota and they want me
any name everybody there you go the Yeah, yeah, our
guys usually on it the Toyota Arena.

Speaker 1 (01:38:51):
It's gonna be fun. Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:38:52):
Ontario's lit it's gonna be popping off over there.

Speaker 5 (01:38:57):
I believe we had bank roll Hayden up in here.

Speaker 6 (01:38:59):
Yeah we did, you did while back right, b he's cool.
He came on tour with me. He opened up for
me and ship. Well, bro, it's gonna be a good one.
Y'all are gonna pack that ship over there. It's gonna
be jumping, yeah Ontario.

Speaker 4 (01:39:17):
Well yeah, what's your favorite part of touring?

Speaker 1 (01:39:21):
Is it the shows? Yeah? The shows?

Speaker 6 (01:39:24):
I guess just seeing what place is gonna be the
most lit Like it be the random places you don't
really think that's gonna be popping and be popping, like
i'd've been out in the middle of nowhere and like
where the fucking my head and then it's all these
people show up, so ship like that. Like I just
like seeing people, like people be singing. It just like

(01:39:45):
fucks up my head every time people are just singing
the words, like I don't know that means you're doing
your job right, Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I like
giving a lot of energy, though I ain't I can't
just walk around and stay. Don't gotting against people that
do that, but me, I move around like I get
around everywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:40:02):
I use the whole stage and off the stage and.

Speaker 3 (01:40:06):
Anywhere show they wanted to see the show.

Speaker 1 (01:40:10):
Yeah, gotta work the stage.

Speaker 6 (01:40:11):
That's how I perform that ship to work out, like
to work out for me for see, that's what I'm
talking about. That's that's because that's what it is. It's
you know, it's people think it's an easy job. You
walk up there a wrap, but that's not what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:40:27):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:40:27):
Most people don't even have the courage though to like
I want to say the courage, but they're just not
comfortable with going in front of a lot of people
and just people just staring at them, like twenty thousand
people just I gotta do something looking at me like yeah,
if you fuck up, you do anything like That's the
part of psychedelics, part of the ship. That's the part
of psychedelics. Like if you're gonna trip on stage, you

(01:40:49):
got to like be one with the fact that there's
like thousands of people watching you.

Speaker 1 (01:40:54):
Out that way, I could do like that and go perform.

Speaker 3 (01:40:58):
If you ever been on stage and like forgot your
lyrics or.

Speaker 6 (01:41:01):
Something, no knock the table, that's never never there.

Speaker 1 (01:41:09):
You go. I have remember after you performing Ship so
much just like get it. I don't even realize I'm
saying it.

Speaker 6 (01:41:17):
Sometimes it's because we begetting to it's because we get high.

Speaker 1 (01:41:22):
Or for me, it's drinking.

Speaker 4 (01:41:24):
If I if I, if I had too much to
drink before a show, that one word it'll.

Speaker 1 (01:41:29):
Be praised, the smuggle out before the show. That shoul
ain't really fuck me up. Yeah, Now for me, it's
the drinking.

Speaker 4 (01:41:34):
I could remember it if I'm high, as if I've
been drinking at all, well not at all, like if
I had too many drinks, then don't forget a word,
and that's what and ship Now usually if for me,
it's for me, it's it's like if I forget that
first word, I'm blanked unless Bobo or or send Dog

(01:41:55):
tap me in you know what I'm saying, which they
usually do. But if they blank out at the same
time I do, then it's horrible that don't that don't
necessarily happen. But it has happened twice that I can remember.

Speaker 1 (01:42:10):
Once.

Speaker 4 (01:42:11):
Both times were with Naughty by Nature, different years though
first year were I think it may be in Buffalo
or some ship like this. Right we're up northeast for sure,
and uh, I'm on Naughty by Nature's bus getting hammered
with tretch.

Speaker 1 (01:42:29):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:42:30):
We're drinking forties back there, and I wasn't a big
drinker at the time.

Speaker 1 (01:42:34):
I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:42:37):
I drank, but not as much as my dude. Did
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (01:42:41):
You didn't tell them you Yeah, no, I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:42:46):
I just took just I said fuck it. And before
I know it, a yob, they're looking for you on stage.
You're about to go on. I'm like, all right, I'll
be out there, you know. I give them a pound,
give Vin a pound. And I'm walking through the bus
and I could feel that. I'm like, oh shit, I'm
like wobbling a little bit. And we got on stage

(01:43:09):
and I was like feeling real nice.

Speaker 1 (01:43:13):
And then.

Speaker 4 (01:43:15):
Real Estate came the song real Estate forgot the lyrics
to that, and then I confused lyrics of Stone just
the way the way walked to hand on the pump,
because they kind of start the same way. I was
faded and Mugs was looking at me like, you know
what I'm saying, Like this motherfucker, because I had not
got loaded before a show like that, you know what

(01:43:38):
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:43:38):
I was totally faded out.

Speaker 4 (01:43:40):
And then the next time again was with Naughty by
Nature in Hawaii fucked up insane in the brain. I
was in the middle of it and then I lost
the word and they were all shocked and I lost
the word that they did not know how to bring
me back in Oh, I had to stop the song, like.

Speaker 9 (01:43:59):
Yo, you guys, they'd hype it up when yeah, yeah,
that's smart at least yourself the way to do it.

Speaker 7 (01:44:06):
Let me ask you something, when you perform live, you
do the live performers like you spending or you got
the lyrics.

Speaker 1 (01:44:14):
Behind or yeah, I mean I got the lyrics behind.

Speaker 6 (01:44:17):
But I'm like I could do it without and I
did it without it before I did that without yeah, yeah,
every word, every word, and then I did. I think
I did this uh without it when I went on
tour Whiz and Ship like that, but I had like
Wiz was like this niggas give me like he smoked
you all know Whiz He like, yeah, he reminds me

(01:44:38):
of Snoop, Like he just smoked bro like but it
was like he gave me his dad, bro, And I
don't do that. I don't be taking dads like I
was backwards smoker and ship like that at the time.
So I'm like, that's before I started smoking papers and ship.

Speaker 1 (01:44:53):
But he gave me his dad. It was like this long,
but he did it.

Speaker 6 (01:44:56):
The way he did it was like, damn, I can't
turn it down because he in front of like all
these other famous people.

Speaker 1 (01:45:02):
It was just like you feel me portant. He pressured
you in Yeah, I'm like this nigga.

Speaker 3 (01:45:06):
Damn.

Speaker 6 (01:45:07):
You know, I'm looking up to him type ship too,
So I'm like, damn, all right, I can't, like, I
can't turn it down, so I take it. But I'm
like I don't feel nothing, you know, when you're hitting
the dab. I'm like, I don't feel nothing, like I'm inhaling,
but I don't feel nothing, all right. Then blowing up,
He's like everybody's like yeah, ship, yeah, hype me up
and ship. I'm like yeah yeah. It was like it

(01:45:29):
was a circle, right, and I was like walk out
the circle, like to my green room and ship there coughing.

Speaker 1 (01:45:37):
I'm about to die.

Speaker 6 (01:45:38):
Like I'm dying, bro, I'm dying like I laid down
the ground, I got hot a ship like I was
dying to pour water on my face and ship.

Speaker 1 (01:45:46):
Like after that, I was like cool. I came back out.

Speaker 6 (01:45:49):
I'm like, shit, I can't be like and I think
we was in like I don't know where we was at,
but like it's something with the oxygen levels. I don't
know if he was in Denver or something. It's like
where you're performing Red Rocks. Yeah, we said some shit,
yeah that shit.

Speaker 3 (01:46:02):
We was there.

Speaker 6 (01:46:03):
So I'm like, I got I just got off the
stage and ship and I was like, I'm like, damn, bro,
I really can't breathe real so I had to do
the so then I really couldn't breathe.

Speaker 1 (01:46:12):
They like, Yo, we're going to get you the oxygen
tank joint.

Speaker 6 (01:46:15):
So I was about to do that, but then wiz
haaying to me the dad before that, and then I
got the oxygen. So after that shit, I'm like, yo, y'all.
I'm telling I'm like, Yo, you got hurt. Bring the
tank now bringing it, hurry up. Put the mask on
my face. I'm about to die out and I'm trying
to be cool. I walked back out the room like

(01:46:36):
after I hit the damn trying they are cool off.
I'm like, no, I'm cool. I grab it back what
I have Bro, I'm about to go back out there
and light it. I'm like, Bro, I still offing, like
I can't breathe. I go back in there do the
oxygen tank. I was cool, man, that shit was Yeah,
that was just a funny story.

Speaker 1 (01:46:49):
Yeah, the oxygen to bring you back. Yeah, Bro, I.

Speaker 6 (01:46:52):
Ain't know what they was talking about because they told
us that like before we perform, like they told it
was like me Wiz and it was Ray Shimmer like.
So they they told all of us like they came
to be like yo, if you need this or something,
just try and manage your breast while you're performing.

Speaker 1 (01:47:06):
And shit.

Speaker 6 (01:47:06):
I'm like, man, I'm gonna be all right. Shit, I
still did my show, but I'm like, damn about a
third song. I couldn't breathe, right, Yeah, and I have
like a forty minute set, forty five minute set.

Speaker 4 (01:47:15):
Yeah, when you have like an uptempo, like energetic show,
you have to pace yourself in the place.

Speaker 1 (01:47:21):
I'll learned that. Yeah, learn that bro, the hard way.

Speaker 3 (01:47:24):
Super hype, yelling and ship and that shit will take
it out of you.

Speaker 1 (01:47:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:47:29):
There's a spot in Dylan Colorado that we just played
that was like ninety eight hundred feet up damn, and
we really had to pace there. It's beautiful though, like
you see this big ass lakes, it's like serene, like
some zen shit, but trying to do a show there
and it's uptempo, you know, up like fast paced show. Yeah,

(01:47:53):
you didn't get winded up there unless unless you pace
yourself in like you know, not get too crazy because.

Speaker 3 (01:48:00):
You know what that like.

Speaker 7 (01:48:01):
I just got back from Bogota and it's it's over
there too, is too high. But it was telling me
it actually makes your lungs stronger living in that that.

Speaker 1 (01:48:10):
Yeah, then people breath different.

Speaker 3 (01:48:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:48:12):
It's eleven thousand feet over there, right where you're talking.

Speaker 3 (01:48:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah above above.

Speaker 1 (01:48:18):
Season above level.

Speaker 3 (01:48:20):
Yeah yeah, because my boy Roca, he lives out there,
and he was telling me yo, because he wraps and
like when he goes to Europe, he's like, I'll be
eating everybody up, like no breaths because his.

Speaker 1 (01:48:34):
Lungs is, his lungs are built for that.

Speaker 7 (01:48:36):
He was saying, people people like Olympics and bike riders
they train over there.

Speaker 1 (01:48:41):
Well, yeah, boxers training show for that.

Speaker 3 (01:48:43):
That's crazy to me.

Speaker 4 (01:48:44):
I was like that way they got like extra wind
when they're boxing in those later rounds, like De la
Joya used to go to Big Bear and train you
know what I mean, because of the elevation down there.

Speaker 3 (01:48:58):
I was we were both winding man on stage.

Speaker 4 (01:49:01):
Yeah, I mean you gotta trade a little bit, mate.
I jump rope a lot, I run a lot all
that stuff. So places like that don't fuck me up
so bad. But I still got to pace myself in
those places because you know, we do have like an
uptempo catalog with most of it that we perform, and yeah,

(01:49:23):
it gets tough to breathe in that ship especially. I
mean imagine there was like crazy humidity there. You would
be able to breathe at all. Yeah, ship especially.

Speaker 7 (01:49:33):
Imagine you jumping around and all that, You're really gonna
go out of breath.

Speaker 1 (01:49:39):
Oh we had somebody pass out at the show. Know
they do that in my shoes.

Speaker 6 (01:49:43):
Yeah, like people be but I I'll be making sure
like we'd be passing out waters and ship. I'll stop
the set like we'll pass out waters and all types
of shit whatever. Yeah, you gotta make sure out the
crowd and ship whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:49:58):
But you look like you you and in shape, man,
you like how to be not like like that rapper
that what's his name, I forgot his name, and he'd
be sitting on a couch and ship on the in
the middle of the show, like, yeah, you know Dave Blunt, Yeah,
Dave Blunts, big up Dave Blunts by the way, because
he does have some fire ship.

Speaker 7 (01:50:19):
But you know it's crazy, like you go to go
see his show, he's just him on the couch.

Speaker 6 (01:50:24):
I wish I could do that. I wouldn't, but it's crazy.
I mean it's not I'm not saying nothing wrong. But
his fans love that ship though, Yeah, they love that niggau.
I wouilsh show up the shows. I wish I could
just do him bro doing his things. I wish I
could sit still in the chair and do it. I
think it's it's more me that I could not not move,

(01:50:47):
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:50:47):
It's so used to moving.

Speaker 4 (01:50:50):
It would take discipline to just sit there and not
and not move for me, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:50:55):
What, I used to do it? Well, yeah, but there
was a reason for.

Speaker 3 (01:50:58):
That same thing. There's a reason for that.

Speaker 1 (01:51:04):
All right.

Speaker 4 (01:51:04):
I could buy that. But I'm saying if it was me, right,
I'm so used to moving. I don't know how long
I would be able to sit there in the chair. Yeah,
without moving I would feel like, I like, if I
was just walking on the stage, I feel weird. Yeah,
like I would feel like I gotta do more than
I'm just citty. I'm on the couch and yeah, no,

(01:51:26):
I imagine that get too comfortable. Yeah no, I got
to be able to move around. It's too much energy popping,
you know what I'm saying. But I probably would not
have as much wear and terri if I just sat there.

Speaker 1 (01:51:41):
Bars, let's go bars.

Speaker 11 (01:51:44):
Last one super chats so far, Ewin is saying, you're
a big fan of Little Skies.

Speaker 5 (01:51:48):
What inspired you to write Red Roses.

Speaker 1 (01:51:51):
Roses? What inspirement? Right?

Speaker 6 (01:51:55):
And should I heard the beat? There's a time where
I was on some street. I had a lot of
street shit going on, So I mean that pretty much
explains the song. So I got all the drugs in
the world that you need. I ain't telling them on myself,
but you know that's that's kind of what it was about.

Speaker 1 (01:52:11):
Shit.

Speaker 3 (01:52:13):
I heard the beat. It was like two three in
the morning.

Speaker 6 (01:52:15):
Some kids send me to beat nay me and him
from Chicago and my email and I never really checked
my email.

Speaker 1 (01:52:20):
I just so happened to check the shit.

Speaker 6 (01:52:22):
He sent it to me because I had my email
and my soundclouds and shit, so he sent me to beat.

Speaker 1 (01:52:26):
It's like the Ship's fire.

Speaker 6 (01:52:27):
I wrote the song and then yeah, I went and
made the ship and yeah, that was it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:33):
I don't know, I ain't.

Speaker 6 (01:52:35):
I'm a moment like I'm in the moment like how
you set off the vibes earlier, I go off the vibes.
That was just how I was feeling at the time.
So I wrote the song that I went and laid
it down and that was that. I got landed on it,
landing cube going it. It was history from there. That's
still my biggest song. People asked me to perform. I
gotta perform that song every time I performed, because it's

(01:52:55):
like my biggest song.

Speaker 3 (01:52:56):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:52:57):
It's like, you know what I'm saying, that's how it's
always going to let it go. Oh yeah, that's how
it's always going to be. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 (01:53:03):
I said.

Speaker 4 (01:53:04):
That's good though, because I mean that's why people, you know,
like when they love you, it's for those like those
entry songs, you know what I mean, Like those those
are like very special.

Speaker 1 (01:53:15):
So the fact that you're willing to do them.

Speaker 4 (01:53:17):
Man, that's everything, you know what I'm saying, especially to
those day one facts.

Speaker 3 (01:53:21):
You don't know what your music was hit this person
where they could have gone through some ship. Listen, that's
the crazy thing. You're bringing it to the live like
that's incredible.

Speaker 6 (01:53:31):
People come up to you and be like, man, you
cure my depression or you saved my life. I'm like, hell,
like I get it, like the music, but I still
be like damn and still be sucking my head up.

Speaker 1 (01:53:45):
O don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:53:46):
I just be like, that's crazy. Like sometimes I don't
be knowing what to say when they say that ship.
I'm just like y'all When I hear like that, I mean,
y'all just help me keep going too. I think it's
like it's two way straight, like we help each other ship.

Speaker 1 (01:53:58):
I believe that's true.

Speaker 4 (01:53:59):
Yeah, they received like what we're putting it putting down
and it resonates with them and they can relate to
it and connect with it.

Speaker 1 (01:54:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:54:07):
And uh, it's a voice yeah definitely for us satting there.

Speaker 1 (01:54:11):
Yeah, facts salute.

Speaker 4 (01:54:12):
Hey, I want to thank you for sitting there with
us for sure, saying and getting down with us first many.

Speaker 1 (01:54:18):
Times yeah, you want me back. I'm here.

Speaker 4 (01:54:20):
Hell yeah, I'm here, No doubt you got any Shout
out to work give.

Speaker 6 (01:54:27):
Yeah, Shout out to my girl, my wife, you feel me,
she waiting over there and Ship. Shout out to my
boy Sam. Shout out to my son. Shout out to
my mom. Shout out to y'all for having me for sure?

Speaker 1 (01:54:39):
What else?

Speaker 6 (01:54:40):
Oh yeah, shout out my manager Craig you over there
and Ship. Thank Thank you to the man upstairs you
feel me for just keeping me blessed for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:54:49):
That's it, That's right.

Speaker 9 (01:54:51):
Minus Oh everyone, shout out to everyone here at the table.

Speaker 2 (01:54:55):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (01:54:55):
Shout out to the Treehouse crew.

Speaker 9 (01:54:58):
Shout out to everyone that watches you can call him
a C minus fan for on all the social media.
And tonight I'll be at All End with Dj Fatty
from nine to one. We're playing all post punk, new
wave and indie indie rock. So come by or see
me on. We'll be on my Twitch channel starting at
nine pm. So word, see you here tomorrow for another

(01:55:18):
Green Thumb show and a mix. Word what up cycle?

Speaker 7 (01:55:21):
Lest chilling chilling, Shout out everybody hanging out with us,
you know Sky for coming through Doctor Green thumb cruel,
everybody hobby Low. If you're on the IG, follow me
cycle Less Official and also go to the website the
cycle Less Shop dot com. Uh word, it's Thursday, Master Mix,

(01:55:45):
Real Cycle Coming.

Speaker 3 (01:55:47):
Get ready.

Speaker 11 (01:55:49):
Shout the Insane Asylum Show, to Ray Morning Chat Film Show,
to the Dominator Show, to Sky for coming through. We'll
have to set up that bowling game and shout the
Insane Asylum.

Speaker 5 (01:55:58):
What's up? What's up?

Speaker 6 (01:55:59):
B God is good? Swallow that