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September 18, 2025 • 118 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Welcome.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Oh yeah, it's the Doctor green Thumb next show live
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it do. It's the Doctor green Thumb Show. Uh, funky
fresh for you. I am Doctor green Thumb here with
my good friends, starting with mister Goodlight, dj C minus
what Day into his right, the legendary psycho Leacy. We're here,

(01:36):
baby open ball ha. We got the Treehouse Crew, bolt In,
Blombo Bra Bro, and the Dominator.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yo yo, what up everyone today?

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Some good We're all good, I think. Uh back in
the building, Smoke Box Alumni, Bar Spinner, my man Terminology
up in this yat, what up? What up? What up here?
That's right? And we have one of my good friends,
one of my bestest friends in the world, mister Everlast
aka Whitey Forded the Building.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Soul Assassin's Good Dad Gang in the motherfucking house.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
There you go. That's right, Good Dad Gang. That's right.
I got one of them shirts. You know that someone
sent me one of them.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
I brought you some gifts today.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
All right, that's what's up. Man. It's good to see
you back up in here, man. Yeah, it's good to
be here.

Speaker 5 (02:20):
Man.

Speaker 6 (02:20):
I I told so many people about the smoke Box
and like put them onto it. You know, back in
the East Coast. A lot of the people don't know,
but I'll be putting them on. How that was a
legendary thing you did with that.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
You know, you got stripes for that, you know, because realistically,
motherfuckers are scared of the box and you came in.
You came in, you know, and like handled it like
a g no water, no win.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Those up there A lot of kind edits in some
of those shows.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
People not termed not terms, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Some water breaks were had they saw, he said, and
I was like, fuck, but okay, let me put it
into context.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
You know, I've had eyes in that box that are
pro smokers that did not hang yeah, you know what
I'm saying, And one of them being one of the
homies I wrap with, you know what I mean, A bandmate,
if you will, got in that box. It coughed the
whole time.

Speaker 7 (03:18):
I don't know that that was a part of the
rule no water. Well, it wasn't necessarily there was a
part of the rule. It's just we probably didn't have anything.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, it was kind of in the air like, yo,
no water. Oh look they got to Oh yeah, that's
it was in the air, like, oh my god. Term
you were a part of the first smoke well the
second second generation smoke boxes right here, because this is
when we got in the Cadillac and the windows were up.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
One of my favorite interviews ever, by the way.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Thank you man. I love that interview. You killed that ship.
And let me tell you what, because to also put
this in context, when we were doing this particular box
right here, it's a Cadillac brone four door. It's owned
by my one of my bro's mouse, you know, and
so he donated the car to do the smoke boxes

(04:06):
and because mine were in the shop for a long time,
and so you know, he popped out his broom and uh,
it's it's a cool car to do the box. And
but let me tell you what. When the windows are
up there are shut and it and it is fucked
up in there, let me tell you yes. And and
at this point we didn't have our a C installed yet,

(04:30):
and so it would get dead ass hot in there.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
I was were surviving like it was. That was like survivor.
It was fun though survivor right there, Bro, you did
it like nothing. I gotta tell you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
I appreciate that everybody at this table has managed the
box like no problem.

Speaker 7 (04:47):
If you lucky you didn't have nobody sitting in the
back seat. We got we got you the blow smoke.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah see by see by Less's time, by less his
time in the box, we were already putting two heads
back there so that we could be smoke machines.

Speaker 7 (05:06):
You know.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
We had an everlast with with sick jacket back there. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
That's a lot of weed, man.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yep. Oh yeah, that's like that's like Tuesday night, you
know what I mean. Yeah, for us, it's like every
boy ever lasts right there. Yoh, that's that's like a shit.
It's sixty seventy pounds ago. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (05:27):
Yeah, there's those weeks we did like two in a
row in a day, and there was like times, you know,
we would just look at each other and just like
we trained for this.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
See. You know, it salutes all those people that did
the box because those were the unafraid. Yeah, those were
the ones that stepped up. It took the challenge, you
know what I'm saying, because it's not easy being in
that car if you're not a no, avid smoker, even
if you are an avid smoker, unless you're you know,
you're you're built to be in a condensed area like

(05:58):
that and like absorb ball that smoke without breaking, which
our crew always has been. Yeah. It's a tough piece,
you know what I mean that when people watch it,
they're like, oh, I would never do that. That's crazy. No, wait,
I want to get sucked up, talk themselves right out
of it. Yeah, so the absolute those that have done it.

Speaker 6 (06:19):
Another cool thing was like all the famous people that
sign their name on the car.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, that was that car.

Speaker 6 (06:25):
You can't front. It's like you're looking on the side.
It's like Everlast, this guy, It's like, yo, what come on, man.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Bout a history? Like let's go word up. Hey, cheers
to you and cheers to all the Smoke Box alumni.

Speaker 6 (06:37):
Salute cycle last problem, Everlast, be real, love you guys.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Man. Espresso, by the way, that's not that.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
Not like Jamison for breakfast.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
You know, Jamie's crying. You know what I'm saying. The
little splash of uh espresso after the jamison wasn't so bad.
Actually kind of wrangled it together. Mine.

Speaker 8 (07:05):
I remember when I still drank like eleven twelve years ago,
like there was this I want to say, there was
a liquor that was coffee flavored.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
I think it was tequila, Okay, I.

Speaker 8 (07:15):
Think I want to say it was like, uh, well
trone with coffee or something.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yeah, that was a Patron that was there.

Speaker 6 (07:22):
You go Patron Cafe me and static drink a whole
one at six in the morning.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
I remember it was like a purpleish color.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
I remember.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
One of my favorite new drinks is kara ehole. I
believe it's the pronunciation of it, and it's it's liquor
forty three or forty four and that's like an espresso
liquor and and something else and that's it. And it's
the most amazing drink because you can get drunk.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
I know you ain't. I ain't endorse it right right now.
That sounds I know you talk about it all the time.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
So I'm like, you could get drunk and stay very alert,
you know, like drinking the strength.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
For me, I don't like the fucking ones that like
are flavored like that, you know, either sugar like.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Drinking and a so like a chill express. So there's
no it's almost like you're not drinking. But yeah, most
of them are really sugary for me.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
You know what I'm saying. I can't like it's just
something about it. But like I mean, I'm open to ship.
I'll take I'll take a little shot if I like it.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Just at dinner one night, which which wifey have one
of these drinks and then try and be like, man,
if that motherfucker wasn't.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Right, what's the call again? I believe it's called car
I gotta try to gotta ehole.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Don't let him sell you at the bar either that
it's an espresso martini because it's not the same.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
No, they're different.

Speaker 6 (08:34):
Can I get a lighter? Yes, sir, get it popping?
Oh look you use this?

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Oh you got a Gucci lighter. Okay, let's go, oh boom,
all right, let's go. Yeah, man, got a Gucci link.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
You might be able to got a Gucci jacket, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Let's go Bobby stick in the pocket after yeah, oh man,
I remember I got one of them Gucci cases in
Vegas and the same night I got it, some sticky
fingered motherfucker got it. I was like, what happened to
my ship?

Speaker 6 (09:10):
That's why I stay away from like the Louis luggage
because it's like people want to steal it.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
You know.

Speaker 6 (09:14):
If you check your bag, I mean it's fly to
have it, but it's like people target you. Even the
TSA and the dudes work at the airport are like, yo,
there's something in there.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
If yeah, if you if you take your eyes off
of it, it's gone, you know what I'm saying. And
sometimes yeah, they'll pull it off that ship and be
like they lost it.

Speaker 6 (09:32):
You got a Gucci bag and all that, But like
checking it, you're kind of asking for it because it's
like you're saying, there's something in there.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Yeah, you know, I'll tell you what. There needs to
be anything in it. It's a Gucci bag, right, even
the bag, yeah, just a bag full of underwear. It's
a Gucci bag. They're gonna take coming up anything. I
don't think people.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Who travel with full sets of Gucci luggage are traveling commercial.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Okay, some of them are.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
You'll see something kids are using it as a carerry
on you know what I mean, fucking duffle or something.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Most of the time that bag.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
I rock with my little toomy shit that's covered in stickers.
Nobody else's bag on the planet looks like mine. It's
literally covered in a hunt like I always had an
imagination of my luggage looking like old Bugs Bunny cartoons
with stickers all right, the different places. Whill I combine
that with a bunch and it's just there's no mistake
in my bag for any other bag.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
The minute it comes off, thought, wouldn't it be hilarious?
To very quick? Wouldn't it be hilarious? Wouldn't it be hilarious? Though?
If what if someone did have a bag that looked
like yours covered off?

Speaker 2 (10:39):
I've seen it all stick it up, and there's been
a few times and I'll be like, no, but it's
a different bag.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
I'll get you got different stickers, and I got some you.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Know, amazing art stickers kind of over it like they're
not worth anything.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
But like the way that I'm you know, it's just
like very colorful, Like, oh, ship that does look like
a fucking Bugs Bunny fucking cartoon. It's very Yeah, I'll notice.

Speaker 7 (11:04):
I'll get a Louis bag and check it in, but
it's gonna be an African bag from you know, like
from Canal Street or something.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
You know, here's my thoughts.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
No one's gonna know if you can't like buy a
fucking whatever duffel of Louis or Gucci or whatever, but
whatever the other you know, at goy yard and kick
it around the fucking airport floor like it ain't ship,
don't fucking buy it.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
You don't need that ship for fucking real.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
If you can spill a bottle of wine on this
Gucci jacket, don't fucking buy it.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Man, people will be bitching, yo, yo, you stepped on
my bag. You push him? Well, you know those are
either people that could that that well, that's probably someone
who either put it on the floor, if you're that,
that's someone if I'm sorry, that's someone who either got
it as a gift or could barely afford getting it
so they fucking covet it like motherfucker. Yeah, try to

(11:53):
cherish it. But you right, you're right, you know if
that's probably.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
The only excusable thing to me is if it some
sort of gift and a precious thing to somebody that.
I can understand that a little bit more. If you
bought it, you have a reason buying. It's like being
at the crap table with rent money man. You shouldn't
be there.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah. The people that actually can afford it don't give
a fuck about those bags. They'll go buy another one.
I'm saying, I've had. You know, well, I got whatever, Aci, Glucci, Louie,
I got all that shit.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
I got some of those too, fucking if I literally
kick them around the airport, like just to fucking make
people mad, not mad, but like, look like it's a
fucking bag.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
What is it for? Yeah? They were supposed to put
on the floor. Yeah, I mean the minute you scratch it.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
It's got draws, some cologne, and a fucking iPad in it.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
The bag is working. The bag is worth more than
anything you put in it, you know what I'm saying.
And like, you know what you're taking it for. If
you're taking it to the airport, it might get scratched. Yep,
So you can't you know, you can only blame yourself
if you're using that shit and you get mad that
it got scratched, Like you said, if you're worried about
that don't fucking use those bags. Yeah, and it's an

(13:02):
expensive ass bag.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
I also, I don't disagree what he's saying. If you
buy like a fucking nice, fucking you know Louis Vuitton
trunk and packing full of all your ben finus, you know, threads,
and check it at the airport.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
But that's the thing. Yeah, if it's lucky, if people.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
That do that are putting that on a goddamn private Yeah,
but either way, either way, twenty thousand dollars trunk.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Either way, though, there are people that buy it and
go commercial and then complain when their bag comes back scratched.
It's like, well, what the fuck are you doing? You
know that it's luggage and you didn't take a private flight,
and you got on a plane with two hundred people, Yeah,
what do you think is good? Each one had a
bag or more.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
I guarantee somebody flew this week on Spirit with a
Gucci Louis bag.

Speaker 6 (13:45):
Yep, you fucking right as dead ass. I guarantee somebody
did it on the plane. Not that they're smart, but
they you know, they probably did it.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Oh, listen, there's there's folks that got those bags that
can afford them, and other folks that got him, but
that not necessarily in that bracket. To the it's the
most Yes, to some it's the most expensive thing they own,
so they want to protect it as much as they
fucking can. But it's like, again, you know, if it's

(14:15):
that much of a stress on you, why take it out?

Speaker 2 (14:19):
And and the and the true fact of the matter
is less a statement from earlier is is valid in
so many ways, including one that there's not that much
difference between that African bag he buys off of and
the one that's.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
Really just the same material.

Speaker 7 (14:37):
What is the baggage guy gonna call you out to
the same everyone.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
He's got fake bags over here, what's gonna do that? Right?
No one cares. It's only like if you're traveling with
other people that do got money. And then all.

Speaker 6 (14:55):
Hip hop is a is a materialistic thing, which I
don't like that part, but it is. It is like
people judge you off what you wear and stuff like that.
And I think the coolest thing about what we do
is that people know us because we make good music
and we're good rappers. You could walk in with a
black tea on this five dollars and people are going
to be excited to.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
See true that term.

Speaker 7 (15:14):
In the beginning, we had like rock him and them
rocking the fake Gucci jackets that but done.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
So all that was fake.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
What do you think, bro, You didn't sign off on
that until thirty plus years later when they actually realized
how much he did for them.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Let's hit it. Let's hit it on the head. A
lot of motherfuckers were wearing fakes at the beginning because
guess what those pigs ago I was wearing fucking Nikes.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
I bought off a fuck at the fucking slas and
swat meat that had Birdberry fucking in lays and fucking
Gucci bottom line and overdy gave a flying fuck.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
They were like, that ship is dope at fun bottom
line is back then, those big ass brands were fucking
with rappers. You were wearing the Fugesi ship because they won.
They weren't giving it to you too, No rappers back
they could afford it. They didn't even make a hoodie.
But yeah, they didn't make anything.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Really like fu Fu up or echelon high fashion bullshit,
except for maybe the belts and the things that had
the logo patterns and shot on it. The few things
a shoe here, a jacket there. It was those key
pieces that Dabor Dan took and made into street fashion things. Yeah, yes, absolutely,

(16:27):
Bootleg Belts of Africa.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Trip they trip us out, no doubt. You just hit
on a great point because like the way that all
these the lighter cases things were made or made in
that same vein where they were taking all the fugesy,
fucking bags and cutting them up and making them up
as as part of the fashion ship that we were
seeing back then in those suits. Right now, it's in

(16:52):
the lighter game for sure, like all these ones that
are like the Gucci and go Yard and all those
fucking lighters. Some of them are real, but most the
more fucking fake, but no one gives a fuck. They
just look cool that you know, hey dude on Instagram
and I ain't blowing him up.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
That's for fly hop boy, Like everybody Christmas presents when
you're like twenty, idi is the guy was listening like, hell.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah, listen. If you told me that was fugazy, I
would give a fuck. I would tell you it still
looks fly.

Speaker 6 (17:22):
I want to say something though, right I think that
hip hop has infiltrated fashion in a way where like
look at Ralph Lauran how to spend the Block thirty
years later and put Thurston Howard the Third in his
movie and on the billboard because it's so important.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
That dude who robbed him for about five million.

Speaker 6 (17:37):
It's so important that he stole that much Polo, that
he made it important in this culture, you know. So
it's like they got to spend the block and give
us and cater to us.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Now, yeah, really the only reason Polo has any cultural
relent relevancy at all. Real, see that fucking whiskey up.

Speaker 6 (17:54):
Yeah, lives right, seaking lives.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
But yeah, I mean that's the only reason.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
I mean we we never even would have heard of
a Tommy Hill figure or.

Speaker 6 (18:07):
Yeah yah, nineties nineties rappers made it. Yeah, nineties rappers.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Yeah. I'll tell you what the people that never acknowledged though,
right that that we you know, hip hop culture blew
up their fucking brands, which part of partially is Nike.
You know, Michael Jordan did it, but like it's because
a lot of fucking hip hop fans fucked with Michael
Jordan even though he didn't fuck with hip hop. Right.
The other one, Timberland. Timberland was a workingman's boot. Timberland

(18:36):
never broke bread knowing they made so much money off
the hip hop culture in the nineties. Everybody had. Yeah,
they did have. They did give a two fucks the
bag and kept it moving money already before hip hop. Yeah,
but they had an influx of money from a revenue
stream they did not expect. They weren't.

Speaker 6 (18:55):
They weren't charging two hundred for that boot. No, they
were charging one hundred. And now that all the rappers
were in the streets where it now it's two hundred.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
One.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
That's four rex.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Like, what are we talking about? How ridiculous?

Speaker 2 (19:06):
How they do collapse with high end brands because they
it was cool in the streets, you know, yeah, and
and and well and what it was five years ago.
I don't know if he's still in that role, but
they had to step up and put Dapper Dan on
a pedestal and say we're making him our worldwide kind
of ambassador of you know, style or whatever.

Speaker 6 (19:26):
He like a two year contract because it was proven
that they stole his style and never paid him.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, because he took their logo and put it on
ship and made it cool.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
And I guarantee you.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
As fake as that ship was. As we were talking about,
that leather was probably the most premium leather. Yes, and
they would get that money. You know, weak ship DP
suits were hard.

Speaker 9 (19:45):
Dude wanted the BDP bucket had Dude, all I wanted
a bucket had as much pardon me as when you
guys brought that ship.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Back E p M D E p M D two bucket.
Oh yeah, it would have been a good to collabor
with him. Everybody wanted to fuck with him. I mean
his ship was.

Speaker 7 (20:03):
When ko Res did the philosophy with with that puffy
black and white jacket.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yo, I was, I was like, yall, yeah, and that
was just straight up Dapertanna. I wasn't Gucci, it was anything.
It just it just looked fire like that. Yeah, little
level and there was a lot of dope pieces back then,
you know what I mean. He was making everybody some
really cool ship. On the East coast we didn't really
get We didn't really We did.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Fifteen twenty years to catch up to that and actually
make it themselves.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah no, I hear you, but we didn't really have like,
we didn't have so much of that on the West coast.
We had to go out there and get it and
bring it back here if we wanted to have any
of that kind of fly ship. There was maybe one
or two people. The guy who the guy who eventually
goes on to make Fubu, He was one making a
couple of suits here and there, but it wasn't quite

(20:54):
the same as as y'all had it on the East Coast.
But to me, to fly shit out here was like that.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
It was the whole different for culture of Pendleton's and
fucking like you know, Fiva ones.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Or Dicky Dicky.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah, for me that one of the most magical spots
out here was Green Spans, the original one back in
the day out by your old kind of air motherfuckers.

Speaker 7 (21:14):
Motherfuckers on the East Coast was rocking dickies and all
that ship, rocking the Dickie nicky suits, the whole ship.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
That was crazy. It was a crazy dick because it
was a transfer of influence, right. We wanted the crazy
leather suits that we don't get out here, and we
really couldn't possibly wear them. It's too fucking hot. And
y'all wanted the car Heart gangster ship, which is totally cool,
but it's too thin for y'all.

Speaker 6 (21:41):
Out Yeah, even a wife beat U with all the
tats Cortes. We were always stealing that ship over there.
Y'all wanted that ship too, you know.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
It was we were. It was an influence on each other,
you know what I mean, because there was a lot.
I mean, most of us that grew up on the
West Coast were influenced by East Coast hip hop period.
We had a different fashion sense, you know what I mean,
and then eventually develop a style that's that's different than
than the East Coast, and then you know, the East
Coast looking at some of the ship we're doing over

(22:11):
here and was like, oh fuck, that's kind of fly
and adopted some of it, you know. So we adopted
from each other all day and influenced each other all day.
That's that's the beautiful thing. No one speaks on it
so much, but that is what fucking happened.

Speaker 6 (22:25):
Iced Tea too like Iced Tea too, so swaggy like
both coasts wanted to be like Iced Tea as far
as like fashion, like big gold chain like he he
dressed like an East Coast rapper, but he's a West
Coast rapper.

Speaker 7 (22:36):
Yeah, I mean, if you go to fucking Japan, there's
cholo Japanese was dressed with fucking all that bikey's.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
And yeah, you know, I want to go check it
out up and ship japan the low riders. I'm like, yo,
it was a gangster look for sure, most of us
they used to rocket back there. We don't fuck with
it now, you know what I'm saying, because eventually you
got to evolve, You got to do different things, different
looks and ship like that. And you know, and we
see that now all day. The looks are crazy all

(23:08):
over the place, some dope, some not so dope.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
And point you were stopping trying to advertise a certain
thing while you're trying to get on in your correct
right and yeah, you're trying to not show flags that
you're active in the street. Also, well yeah right.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
I had to be very careful because I was one
of very few bloods at that time in the in
the hip hop industry here on the West Coast. There
was bou Yard Tribe myself, and then eventually DJ Quick
or maybe Quick was at the same time, and very
few of us and you know, a whole lot of

(23:47):
crips in the hip hop game here on the West Coast.
So it's like you know, yeah, to be careful how
you rolled in certain places. But you know, the style
was what it was, and now it's evolved, like because
you don't you rarely see that ship anywhere now a days.

(24:08):
You know what I'm saying in terms of rappers here
and what they're wearing, they're not wearing nothing close to
what motherfuckers used to wear in the nineties or early
two thousands the West Coast. It's all some different ship.
Now quite the opposite has changed around. Oh yeah, yeah,
well now they're.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Following fashion, and fashion isn't following what was happening, you
know what I mean. Yeah, I didn't invent ship, but
I'm saying the things I was copying weren't in fashion magazine.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah they were ship. I saw like exactly that ship,
like you know, we was, we was rocking the Cassell's.
There was no internet either.

Speaker 7 (24:44):
Before it was like a big thing, you know back yeah,
you know before right, yeah, I got that clear ones too.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
But but but look that that goes to show you
that the influence of hip hop because the motherfuckers started
wearing those cazelles after run DMC and theat Boys and
Beastie Boys. That they were running them everybody then everybody
needed that.

Speaker 7 (25:05):
Came from the street. That's what I'm saying. That style,
it's just a street. We we made that ship famous. Yeah,
it wasn't some fucking you know it did. Thank you
dm C, DMC.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Hold upright, DMC popped off Cassell's extra sales for Cassell's
right and also for Adidas. It did and launched relaunched
fucking arrow Smith right, black black leathers. Used to that
was the power of hip hop. Used to have.

Speaker 7 (25:38):
They used to have the bootlegs there every time the
ls you got the good I had a pair. They
didn't last long. They got stamps. They look pretty good
for those days. You in the streets, you throw them ships.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
You left those hangings somewhere too long. Someone was snatching
them bitches up. You went the wrong playing. Somebody might
snatch them off your face. True that they'll take them
right off your face. The squad rolls up with you,
a let me see them glasses, glasses? What's the answers?

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Like?

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Hey, what size? Or those homie? Yours? What about it?
Not yours? Not yours?

Speaker 2 (26:25):
At that point the question has been asked, it might
as well be like they're yours, what about it?

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Or you want to find out? I see, that's just
like you can't even like when you get when you
get a question like that, it's it's not even a
matter of an answer, it's a matter of action. How
do you handle it? You fucking sock them right dead
in the fucking face, right there and there, don't even
give them the option of an answer, you know what

(26:50):
I mean, Because it's like, if they're coming at you
like that, they're planning to take your ship, you know
what I'm saying. So if you got the means to
not to not get fucked with, if it's just one person,
yeah you fucking crack them, don't even say a word.
But if it's like a few of them, you need
to take stock. You either give it up or you

(27:11):
better be running fast with it, or you try to
knock two of them out and take the chances and
ump off the bus at the next stop. Yeah, it
doesn't always work out the way you want it to,
So like you have to really take stock in your mind.

Speaker 6 (27:25):
You think you could beat everybody, and then the next
thing you know, you're getting jumped.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
It's not a video game. I never thought I could
beat anybody. I might have just been on the bus
trying to catch a tag on that line.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Man, I don't know. No, that's the thing, you know,
Like the minute you start talking is when you get
tagged up. I learned that shit by seeing motherfuckers that
you know, I rolled with tag people that were talking
too much, or motherfuckers that were with me that were
talking too much got tagged up instead of like action. Right,

(27:55):
So if you're going into a confrontation, the worst thing
you could do is talk because if your intention is
to do something and their intention is to do something,
someone is gonna make the first move. And if you're
the person that does this, I'm gonna fuck you up,
you know what I'm saying. So you have to choose
before you even get to that point. Am I gonna

(28:17):
fight with this motherfucker or not? And if you're not,
don't even go for the confrontation. But if they're coming
at you, you have to decide is this fucking chain
or whatever they're gonna take is it worth what's about
to happen?

Speaker 4 (28:33):
Because you can get another chain, you can get.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Another chang, can't get another life, you know what I'm saying,
And especially if there's a few of them, you know,
because some of us want to fight back and like say,
fuck you, you ain't taking my shit right, But like, hey,
brave hearts maybe exist, but like you know, where that
leads to is not the good road unless you're one

(28:56):
of them thorough motherfuckers we see in the movie that
could beat up six people. You know what I'm saying.
That's very rare in life. So you either give it
up or you run. And if you run, you better
be running fast.

Speaker 6 (29:10):
These edits, by the way, who I was doing these
editor is crushing it. Yeah, all these sound effects.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
They need to get to the chopper son. I mean,
let me tell you. Let me tell you.

Speaker 7 (29:19):
When I was fifteen years old, I remember in school
I had a fat nugget ring and they ran up
on me, two gods in my face. I looked at them.
I was like, boom, nigga, I wouldn't be here to
tell you the story right now, ring like two gods,

(29:39):
I'm not taking that risk. I run orp I would
have got okay. So so check.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
The problem here they taking the ring anyway? That ring is?
I mean, so checked out now I'm here to tell you,
so check this out. Check this out right, you did
the right thing. I want to tell you you did
the right thing. Let me tell you a Sun Doobe story.
Right everlast knows this because he went with me to
the aftermath of it. Right. So, like Duby goes to

(30:07):
a barber shop in the hood and he wears a
Rolex and he don't have people with him. He's by himself.
This is something Dubie used to do, like roll out,
floss out and be by himself. Rolled up. These two
motherfuckers came up and were like run the rolex, and
they had they had heat with him. And instead of

(30:29):
giving that the rolex, he throws it up. He takes
it off as if he's gonna give it to him,
and he throws it on the roof of this building
and tries to run. They shoot him in the ass.
Lucky and by am I right am? I exaggerated on
this absolute gospel. Okay, So he didn't give up the

(30:51):
watch and he got shot in the ass for it.
And then I asked him, you know, like why didn't
you give up the watch? Because I was go back
up on the roof forget it, and blah blah blah blah,
I said, do you think that watch is still there,
probably not. Should have just gave up the watch.

Speaker 6 (31:09):
It on one show got the watch back or claimed
insurance on the watch.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
If you were smart when you bought a fucking Rolex,
you got insurance on it. So if you ever got
ran for it.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
Yeah, that's a funny story though.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah he got. Yeah, and me and everlast. The very
next day we go down there to visit him in
the hospital. While he's laid we're like, why did you
just give up the watch too? And not a folk.
He had a good one, he had, He had a
good one, big bullet scar Scar. Yeah, he learned from that.

(31:44):
Don't be going out by yourself, flossing out to dangerous places.
That's the next movie, Scar Scar scars face. Yeah, you know,
you gotta be careful man, especially here. A whole lot
of wolves out here from way back to now.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
You can't really sleep anywhere. I think, Yeah, yeah, that's true.
You know, there's a whole lot of wolves. And just
like this little guy and now he don't realize he's
food and a lot of these cats don't realize the Yeah.
Let me you know, in certain places in life, I'm food.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yeah, if you go in there unaware exactly and unprotected
your food. Yeah, let me tell you. Just let me
tell you something.

Speaker 7 (32:26):
And people think France is all cute and you go
over there, nigga, you better watching ship is grim.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
City over Let me just turn it upside down and back.
Let me just say this, right for people who are
are from our side of the water, right who think
that there ain't no gangster ship down there, there was
gangster ship down there before our continent even was developed.
I mean that the European continent like and further out

(33:00):
could have been a part of gangster ship for thousands
of years before us. They took this ship.

Speaker 6 (33:06):
That's how gangster they took where we live.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
So it's like to say that London doesn't have any
gangsters or Paris doesn't got any gangsters in Germany or Italy,
which we know. Ass, that's just ridiculous and laughable because like,
you can't just think that it came and and was
spawned here. It was not.

Speaker 6 (33:30):
You think the dog is high, The dogs chilling, look
looks chilling, just wondering.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
You don't get stretching, stretching, just don't smoker.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
He's doing dog yoga Sunday. Yeah, he's doing dog yoga.
His eyes would be almost close.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
We're taking another shot. What's up?

Speaker 1 (33:48):
All right? I'm with you here.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
I wish I could say we got the bartender.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
I did not drive. I did not drive, nor will
I be driving today, So I I could have another one,
and I'm not gonna feel bad about it, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Thanks for the parking spot.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Yeah, you're welcome. Uh some Jamies according to your bottle
over there, son, Jamie's crying.

Speaker 6 (34:21):
I like these things. These are great. We need to
get some of these on show Off radio.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
Static, we got to get our little our own little buttons.

Speaker 7 (34:28):
A little sound buttons is funny. You got to be
into the bike the bar.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Oh yeah, No.

Speaker 6 (34:37):
Static is my drinking partner. Man's in sixteen The Salt,
the Statics and sixteen. He's a nut.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
I'll say this, man, I love Static because I mean,
for for so many reasons. Is one of the cool
homies and ship and all that stuff like that. But
in terms of like his representation of like keeping like
that that hardcore hip hop ship popping. Yeah, he's one
of the one.

Speaker 6 (35:00):
One the record y'all did together on his auh. Yeah,
that's a classic bro the record.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah, we did a record with Shake Him Up Records.

Speaker 6 (35:07):
That ship was crazy and it came out of nowhere
because he put it in the end of the album.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
It's like track twin.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Didn't we just do another one? We did? What with
Diamond d Dimond's one of them one another one. He's
another one of them.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
One Diamond the.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Throwing them up. Salute, salute to the real hip hop
producers show in the world, like being one of those. Yes,
absolutely expressed that once again. Oh yeah, that was good. Jamo.

Speaker 6 (35:42):
I drank a lot of Jamison with this guy in incident.
Oh yeah, we had he had a Sprinter. We had
a Jamison in the sprinter. There was a Jamison the
show Jamison in the after party. We were wilding in incident.
Remember that.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
You know this guy is the one who introduced me
to Jamison. I think this guy almost got me in
doing it.

Speaker 6 (36:01):
We're talking to police, crazy. I never seen nobody talk
to police like. He's like, get the funk out of
my face, move over to your job. You're wild And
I was like, oh, I never seen nobody talk to police.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Like, oh, you will have a special time hanging out
with ever last baby, what we've had too many? I
love it. Though I've never seen that ship in my life.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
I think this guy was like, he's a he's an estevan,
a little bit, a little bit like stuff pushed it.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
I mean I might have done nudged him, but I was.
I was definitely nudged and and and and and instigated,
and uh that was crazy. It happens. Man. That was
a good time. Though agitated, but but uh he was
enjoying it. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (36:41):
I had a good time. Man, I'm enjoying like watching
me just do my thing now, I was. I mean, bro,
first of all, you're my friend.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
I had enough Baker in me where everybody else was
oh wow, you know everybody else.

Speaker 6 (36:55):
And I drink you know, I've been on tour with
you for three weeks. We drank a hundred of those.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
To be honest, term a bunch of my band members
were like, Yo, that dude's toxic, don't hang out with him.

Speaker 6 (37:04):
And I would be like, terms, good man, I'm a
humble listen, I'm a humble person, right, but I like
to turn up.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. Just pushing your buttons
all night. I was like word word, I was like, yeah,
come on, you you were the one.

Speaker 6 (37:23):
Let me tell you something anytime. I mean, I was wilding,
but you were telling police.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
And I believe that. Yeah, And I believe that because
I know him.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
I've never seen nobody talk to a police officer like
that in my life.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
That's different.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
That's white privilege, and that abuse it out of that
in order to entertain my my folks, that can't do it,
you use all the We.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
Were so happy, we were so happy, like we were
in the back seat.

Speaker 6 (37:48):
It was me and my singer problems fucking just fuck you.
It was amazing, legendary, you know what, you know what
the cops.

Speaker 7 (37:57):
The cops could sense this, yeah, thisact they got out
the way.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Was like all right, my bad, Like okay, yeah, I
mean you know, look, it's a certain get down you
have to have when you talk ship to the po post. Right.
You can't do it when you're like, you know, second
guessing the ship you're talking right, like, you can't be
like yeah, you have to like do it with conviction, right,
because if not, they don't believe you, right, And if

(38:25):
they don't believe you, then they're pulling you right out
that fucking car. And giving you the business.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
I think they got to believe two main things, that
you have life insurance and that they know you can afford.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
A lawyer, right, and then it's problem and it's how
you speak to them that they know, like if they're
dealing with a serious person, is someone who they could
intimidate and fuck. Oh man, I swear to god, I
used to scare the ship out of Fred Wreck whenever
he was in the car with me and I got
pulled over because I'd be talking so much ship, I

(38:55):
forget about police. Oh man. I would try to toss
his car or something. So there was a time that
me and Fred Wreck were going to a Laker game
and I had a pound of weed that was getting
trunk right because I was gonna give it to one
of my homies after the game or whatever. Right, So
we're rolling and this cop pulls this over right before

(39:15):
we hit the parking lot cause he hears my exhaust.
I had one of those crazy exhausts on my SRT eight, right,
And he decides to pull me over, and I catch
an attitude really fast. When he comes to the window,
I'm like, the fuck do you want? Man? What are
you pulling me? Over for Oh, well, you're out of it.
You were going fast through this intersection. No, I wasn't

(39:39):
showed me the gun. Why did you pull me over?
I just started ripping him from the top because I
knew I had that pound in the trunk. You know
what I'm saying. So I was just trying to distract
from him, like saying, hey, y'all, get out the car.
I need to search this. And so he asked, where's
the weed at? Like he cut to it. He was like,
I smell weed in here. I said, Oh, out a

(40:00):
fucking quarterouts on a boom, here's the fucking weed. Boom.
Here's my license for the weed. Why'd you pull me
the fuck over? Oh well, you don't have front license
plates and you got tinted windows and blah blah blah blah. Said,
that's not what you said in the beginning. He goes, oh,
I need to call my supervisor. Calls the supervisor. Hey,
I got this, he's got weed, and blah blah blah blah.

(40:21):
I could hear him and talking about the fucking license
and the do I could hear the guy say let
him go, and he had to let me go. And Uh,
I'm like thank you, And I fucking rolled the window
up and popped off and went into the parking lot.
And Fred Rex say, hey, Uncle Louis, you were because

(40:42):
that's another name they used to call me in another time,
Uncle Louie. Why why the fuck did you pop off
on the on the pop post like that? That ship
was crazy? I mean why, I said, because I had
a pound in the trunk and I had to do
something that's right, charge that day. Yeah, I avoided a

(41:02):
nice charge that day, you know what I'm saying, because
by law you could only have eight ounces at the time,
and I was way over, you know what I'm saying,
and I didn't need him popping my fucking trunk and
finding that out. So I just kept like distracting him
with what the fuck you pulled me over for? For real?
Because it ain't for this, It ain't for this today,
for this. I just kept disputing. And then when he

(41:22):
mentioned the weed, I popped the weed out in front
of him, and he was like, well, that that's only
a little bit of weed. How come it smells like
it's the whole car? I said, because that's the fucking
best weed in the world. Man, Like, without hesitation, I
was selling it, and Fred Wrack never probably didn't get
in the car with me for another two years.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
Could I get one of them?

Speaker 6 (41:44):
Light?

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Is this one? This one? Bro Yes, sir, passes on over.
I want to throw it over the door, the Gucci
lighter broke you you just pocket you gotta you gotta
you gotta fucking know how to play poker when you
talk that ship, dude, that's so posted our story. Oh
we've got our story was so close. So we so

(42:04):
everlast night we had this homie name the packer. He
was like an Asian Japanese dude out of like Montabello,
and he was my homie, you know, going back through
another homeboy, right, and we would get our weed from him,
and he had before the cush came along, the most
expensive weed we knew about. It was like four hundred

(42:24):
dollars announce and it was really good. Didn't have a
strained name. Still don't know what it's called to this day.
Grew it up north somewhere and then brought it down
in his nephew and and our homie, who was the
guy the grower's nephew would fucking you know, pop it off, right,
And so we get the last bag the last bag

(42:47):
of of of his ship before we got to weight
on his next hit, right, and we're we're ripping through
through We're ripping down on Highland. We're coming. We had
just finished coming back from getting it from and then
we went somewhere else and we were coming into Hollywood,
and I think you were driving, if I'm not mistaken, right,
or was I driving typhoon? I think what we both

(43:11):
had typhoons. I don't know if I was driving or
you were driving. I think you were driving. I think
I got mine and then you got yours. You were driving,
I was driving. You were driving. That's why the thing
was in the Yes, yes, the thing was in the
glove compartment. We get pulled over because this guy's driving
like a maniac, which we were know to do, not
just him. We amazing truck. We both had the same truck,

(43:33):
so we'd race through the city and these these things,
you know, especially if we were mobbing up together, because
we used to like mob like ten fifteen motherfucking cars deep,
and we'd just be whipping through the city. Wow. And
uh so this day we're mobbing together and they pull
us over because it's raining and he's driving fast because
you cannot drive that car slow, and they pull us over.

(43:56):
They find the gun. It's registered though, so they old
you know, they're not taking anybody to jail. But they
confiscate the gun, and then they find the weed because
they recognize who we are. They're like, oh, you're those guys.
Where's the weed at mother? Here it is. He goes,
all right, what are we gonna do with this? I said, well,

(44:18):
do you guys want it? He goes, no, you give
it to me. I got to take both of you
to jail. You got to figure it out. And I said, well, fuck,
do we gotta dump it?

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Like?

Speaker 1 (44:27):
He's like, yeah, dump it. So I dump it. Then
I'm like okay, what now He's like, you guys got
to stomp it out, come on, because yeah, we had this.
We had to stomp it with our feet in the street,
grind it out so that we wouldn't come back.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Yeah, they didn't. And they stole my gun and they
took his gun. They stole my gun. They never give
it back. They didn't even write me a ticket, but
they took it because there was one in the chamber.
But I was like, what good is it if there
isn't one in the chamber. We were wild back then.
They never gave me a I called like about it,
like and they were like, we never heard of it.
And I just was like, you know what, I'm just

(45:06):
gonna write it the fuck off. Yeah, because we probably
got away with a.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Lot that night. Nah, I hear that. You know what's
having that gun and the amount of weed we had
in the days.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
Those were that song that you wrote for Yeah, it
goes with that, the Corooker cops song.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Oh yeah, I mean because we dealt with them over.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
I mean that song it's al those also birth from
pigs because the officer and the song is officer.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
O'Malley right right. That was a legendary album, if you know.

Speaker 10 (45:31):
If nobody else put that together. I thought it was
a pretty obvious slow fucking easter egg. Yeah, it's among
well you and I know this, you know, but now
they don't, So that's good. I would hope more people
knew that information. Yeah, man, Yeah, that's what I remember
that this pullover.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
That wasn't even the story I was talking about, But
I think we've told the one I was talking about before.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
I remember these cops like taking glee in just doing this.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
I'm not sure if they even when I was House
of Painters, just thought I was mugs, because that would
happen a lot too.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
I think they might have just thought we were both
the pigs guys. Yeah, oh we got the pigs guys here.
Oh yeah, fuck, that's true. Yeah. And that weed was
four hundred dollars. Now it's in nineteen, it's like twenty five.

Speaker 4 (46:19):
Say that's like two two three racks right now?

Speaker 1 (46:22):
How about this? So after that, I'm rolling through Beverly
Hills with Capper, remember Capperra, And we had an ou
to weed with us, and we had one of those
battire those tire batons in the in the back right,
and we get pulled over because I'm rolling my fucking
battle act. You know what I'm saying that the Blue Seville,

(46:45):
which looked very gangster rolling through Beverly Hills. What year
is it? This is? Oh? The car is I think
it was eighty five something like that. It was all McLean's,
so it looked very gangster. Roll it through Beverly Hills.
You couldn't make it out of Beverly Hills without getting
pulled over in that car. And sure enough, yes, sure enough,

(47:08):
we get pulled over. Much nicer than the cheach and
chunk car, let's just say that. But but gangster. Nonetheless,
we get pulled over. We got the weed, we got
the baton, the tire baton in the car, and the
fucking I had gotten busted a year before on a
on a weapons charge in Beverly Hills, right, so fucking

(47:30):
as as as he's given me the business, he goes, hey,
I know your name, and I'm thinking it's through the
rap shit, you know what I mean. I'm thinking, oh,
you know the music. He goes, no, no, no, no no,
because my son busted you about a year and a
half ago with your with your whole family. Is that
with your pistola? You remember that? I said, oh yeah,

(47:53):
I remember that. He goes, I hope you cleaned your
act up. I said, I have. He goes, but you
got this weed. I'm like, yeah, what are you gonna
do with it? I said, I guess I'm gonna throw
it out? And he says, where you're gonna throw it out? At?
I said, the trash can. He goes, nope. I'm like,

(48:15):
what the street? He goes, right, get to step in,
and he made me like he made me grind it out.
And then after that and he goes and then he
says to me, he goes, my son, when he got you,
he got you clean. And you remember that. But remember
when you're writing songs about this pig, that this pig
gave you a break. Now, fuck off. He took the

(48:38):
tire baton and that was the break. It wasn't even
the weed. The tire baton is a felony if you
have like any of that type of shit, even a
baseball bat over a gun, even it's a felony. At
that time, right, and he was giving me game. He goes,
I'm gonna take this tire baton from you, because if not,

(49:00):
I gotta write you up for a felony. And I
know you do music and you're trying to do the
you know, different things now, so I'm gonna cut you
a break. So when you talk about pigs in your song,
remember this pig gave you a break. That was That
was one of the craziest lines anyone has ever told me. Yeah,

(49:20):
not for real. Huh have you ever told that story before?
This is maybe the second time I told it, third maybe.
I mean they caught me and Brooklyn. You just got Yeah.

Speaker 6 (49:33):
Sometimes, bro, I ain't gonna lie right the smallest, like
the craziest things I did, I didn't get caught, and
I got locked up for the dumbest shit, like I
was taking a piss in l e s. You get
locked up, but then you do some crazy ship and
you don't get like. I'm just saying, like it works
out like that, you know, dude. Yeah, here's here's here's
a fucking crazy thing.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
You remember.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
I had a crazy gun charge at the New York airport.
My apartment in LA was under surveillance for fucking a year. Wow,
things we did, No, Yeah, I don't know how they
went because they were watching all the time, but we
like there was like so much weed that moved through
that place at some point. And it's been long enough,

(50:12):
I don't give a fuck. But it was hilarious. Yeah
that these people were like that was a crazy charge,
by the way, but a gun charge in the airport
in New York.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Yeah, I never went to I didn't do any jail. Well,
this is before all that happened, but it cost me, Like, no,
it was right after the first twins they drove underneath
that's okay, because we used to fly with guns all
the time. We would just put them apart and put
them in separate pieces of luggage, put them in. They
never your luggage back then used to hit at the

(50:47):
curb and go under the airport right onto the plane.
You could you could still do that plane. You could
still do that. You just got to you got to
make them aware. And it's got to be a registration
of this point X ray everything. I'm sure now, but
like if you tell them that you're taking it, it's
it's not. They were bringing everything up top because of
that first bombing.

Speaker 6 (51:05):
And in the nineties, I got a question, could y'all
just sneak a gun on the plane if you want? No,
because you know now they got the X ray ship.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
No eighties, get the eighties. In the eighties. In the
eighties though.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Well before before the metal is normally the luggage you
were sending underneath wouldn't go through that, it would just
go underneath.

Speaker 6 (51:22):
The price before whatever, before they had metal. The movie Blow, right,
you're throwing bricks in the bag and all that.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Yeah, before they had metal detectors, you could steak not
not y'all.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
I mean, like the movie Blow like they put bricks
in the bag and they got away with it.

Speaker 7 (51:34):
Well, yeah, like a point when that was a thing
real well, like ship like that ship like seventies and eighties,
seventies you could kind of pop was taking things to
Columbia and and and breaking things up, putting them inside
televisions and doing all kind of crazy things to.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Get the X ray. Yeah, but that's that's that's that's
you know, you had taking the television on the commercial flight.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
We're talking it was flying, No, we was flying checking
ship in No, that's not what I mean though, like TV.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
But you know, yeah, like back back before the metal detectors,
you could bring in a bag and if they didn't
check it thoroughly, they weren't fucking catching weed or coke
or whatever the fuck, you know what I mean. It
had to be very obvious. It wasn't til the metal
metal detectors to where you could steal it.

Speaker 6 (52:19):
But a gun is something different, you know. Yeah, a
gun is different than drugs. So that's really hard to get.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Like, yeah, I mean, you like you got it, you
don't these days most people know and they just forget, like,
oh shit, I had, Like what.

Speaker 6 (52:33):
Happened to I'm saying, Tanna Ray, he had a gun
in his bag and he forgot and then he got
locked up.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
I don't I don't forget that. I didn't forget. I
saw the bag.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
I saw them wheel all the luggage in, and I
was like, what the fuck's going on there? And even
though we used to take our guns apart attest to it, Yeah,
that's true. Bang boom here, nothing's nowhere, but it's a
gun in there. But I'm like, oh, ship, they're about
to X ray everything.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
And I go to leave. I go to leave the airport.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
They know it's your My bag's already the first one
on bag and it stops and I'm like, all I
got to get out of here. I tell Estevan Oriel
was my road manager at the time. I tell him
I'm out. Just tell him you didn't pack that bag
said it's my bag. You could say it's my bag.
I don't give a fuck. I'm out the door right now.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
I'm in the cab. Turn around. Two officers at the
door waiting for your ass.

Speaker 6 (53:19):
No.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
I turned this way to go through where you would
go through the ticketing and then go find another door.
And there's two officers right there, I'm like, oh shit,
now looking in there, obviously at the screen there's like
five guys pointing at it now like right here, like well,
and I'm like, it's obviously my bag.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
I was like well, I was just like, all right,
I'm gonna eat it.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
I walked right up to and I was like, there's
a problem, that's my bag, and they're like, I was like,
this is supposed to go under by the way, that's
the first thing I'm saying. I was like, this is
I'm not trying to take this on the plane, right,
carry on. I was like, this is supposed to be
checked at the curb. And they're like, is there a
gun in your bag?

Speaker 1 (53:51):
I was like technically, I was like, yeah, it's in pieces.
But yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
I was like, there's a gun in the back. And
the problem wasn't even that it was It was not
a legal gun.

Speaker 4 (54:04):
It was legal hammer.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
Yes it was. It was.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
And I will not go further into it than that
that you know that was and there it is next
year and a half of my life of fighting that one.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Do you like cheeseburgers? Do I like? Why? Because it's national.

Speaker 6 (54:26):
My brother bum Bee bum Be Bumby got the best
burger in America, trill Burgers.

Speaker 4 (54:33):
I still got a try one troll burger is banging.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
He he brought a trip. This is where the troll
burger should be at. Brought on on on the show
one be real, can't have one.

Speaker 6 (54:43):
Indeed, one man, Bumby got the best burger in the world. Bro,
I went to the Houston Rodeo.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
You know it was here.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
It was here in l A just the other day
doing some like b exploitation film music thing at the
Hollywood Bowl.

Speaker 4 (54:57):
Bumbe is the is the nicest guy in the world.
He's a super goat. He buy his business. Bro, I
love that man, and he's like a he's like a
mentor to me.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
I love him like a brother. But man, just watching,
just watching the burger grow from like something.

Speaker 7 (55:11):
Look at that started, Bro, that looks delicious, sudden, and
I gotta say, I gotta says, let's go.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
I gotta say I wanted to spray painted box. All
that I gotta say. In the hip hop game, he's
one of the nicest motherfuckers you'll ever meet. One hundred
like a one hundred dude.

Speaker 4 (55:29):
And he's a killer with the bars. You got a
record with DJ Premier with bum Be and the Sling.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Yeah, Bumpy we got. We keep trying to get him here.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (55:38):
I think I think Ever forgets versus everlast. I think
he does.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
I don't I guarantee you they come back once you
remind him, like oh sh word, you don't like hey, listen.
I think it happens to anybody who's been doing like
thirty some odd years of work, Like you don't remember
every single fucking thing. Get on, like I know, like
people will interest to me. I'll be like what I
did when then I'll hear it.

Speaker 6 (56:03):
It'll be like, oh, if you do a song in
like Japan with some rappers, Oh yeah, you don't got
the bag, and then you never hear it again, like
you hit a shit ten years later, Like what okay?

Speaker 4 (56:11):
That it was hard, Like you never would have heard
it if somebody didn't show it to you.

Speaker 6 (56:15):
Oh yeah, I got a lot of those, of course,
especially because you're a producer, so you got Matt rappers.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Is blacking out on your beat or when you featured
or when you featured, right, because that's usually when I forget,
Like it's like, how many features I've been on like
that are like on major labels, mid level labels, and
independent label.

Speaker 4 (56:35):
I got a jewel, yea. I don't know if you
about this app.

Speaker 6 (56:37):
There's an app called Muso, and it finds if you
put your name, it finds everything you've ever done really
so right now, yeah, Musso dot ai or whatever, I'll
send it to you. So basically, bro, like you, this
company tracks everything you've ever done music wise, right, So
let's say they'll say, okay, be Real has one thousand songs,

(56:59):
uh you know, sick hundred are his own than four
hundred features, and then same with you, and like, you
know what I mean, it's crazy, but I put all
my people onto us, That's what it's Mooso dot ai.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
That's crazy. How like with the with that month look,
it's look.

Speaker 4 (57:12):
Look hold up real quick one all right, so you.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Got ever so three hundred thousand, right, not for us.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
The analytics are crazy.

Speaker 6 (57:19):
So let's say, okay, it shows you everything you do
some like your views, your videos. But the reason why
I think it's cool is because okay, you're right here
at the number one, right, But if you keep going,
if you keep going down, it's a thousand songs I'm
on right, Like, when you get to like literally nine hundred,
you're like, what the fuck is this song?

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Like? Forgot you even? You know?

Speaker 7 (57:38):
I mean, at like a hundred, I'm forgetting. And if
you got for those features, that's that's bread. Oh yeah,
thirty nine, I'm gonna be like, what the fuck I mean?

Speaker 1 (57:48):
Do you know that? I'll tell you what though. That
is the cool part about the AI shit is that
if you wanted to know just how many features you
were on and who like you got on with, it
could give you more or less maybe not completely accurate,
but accurate enough to give you an idea of what
the fuck because like some songs you do aren't necessarily

(58:08):
like registered, you know what I mean, You'll be.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Look at this right now, I'm at Summer fake. There
are a like that, two collaborations I've seen with my
name on them. Yeah, oh yeahir where it's not like
a full fledge like me rapping or anything, but like
my background vocal or singing.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
I think I think you have to ask No, I'm ahead,
but I'm saying I think you have to ask it
in the prompt like official songs, and then it'll narrow
it down.

Speaker 6 (58:31):
For you, yo, for real, look at this one, two
hundred and twenty nine songs. Damn I've written according to
this app. And I know it's more than that, but
this is what the app, right, you know what I mean.
We've been rapping our whole life, right, I've been rapping
for thirty years and I have a thousand you got do?

Speaker 1 (58:48):
I doubt it? Well over your career And I'm saying
my whole career, like what, let's see.

Speaker 4 (58:53):
I I just like to rap. I make songs every day.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
An ever Last album I made, then three Houses of
Pain albums that I made three Everlast albums, and on
the Coconulstra.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Album what Porn you know, warre Porn? And then what
another couple two ever Last albums and.

Speaker 4 (59:12):
The features soundstracks.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
You got a lot of songs, you got you got
a lot of songs plus features, not thousands.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
This is nine eighty six.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Look at that, Bros. That's but that really there's different
versions that jump around, you know what I mean. It's Listen,
it's maybe seven hundreds, eight hundred songs. Listen, it's not
just this list is not making and that even seems
like a lot. Hold on, it's it's not just songs
you wrote. It's songs you're on right, you know, even
if you're like the feature on it. Yeah, yeah, God,

(59:47):
I don't even know what mine is.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
Two thousands, my thousand, be real.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Look at what I'm saying, Bro, we do this now,
you gotta do. You know what that tells me is
that I work too much.

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
No, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Fan like, we we do it. We do it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
You're right, put out records like, let's say, average every
five year, I know, but we forgetverage.

Speaker 7 (01:00:11):
Sometimes it's longer. I mean, I mean, I do it
because I want to keep my name out there. Keep keep,
keep keep, you know, you want to keep your ship.
I want, you know, be real everywhere, psycho lest term
every you know e everywhere. That's that's the whole ship.
That's what features is about.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
You know. For me, I only want to put material
out if it makes sense, right like, because by this time,
like all of us here, have put out enough of
a body of work that we could work off that
much like the way the Grateful Dead stopped making records
and they were just working off of the body of work,
selling out shows because they developed the fan base, right managers,

(01:00:54):
agents and record company motherfuckers want their artists to make
records every time because you know, they feel like that
helps generate tickets to a tour. When you got a
new song, people want to come see it. But by
now the game is so different. If you cultivated your base,
you don't need new music. It's great when you have it,
but you don't need it. And like so for me,

(01:01:16):
it's like, I want to make music when it's it's
the vibe that makes sense to me, when it calls
to me, not not just for the sake of, oh,
we need to put something out, because for me, that's
when you're chasing the ship, you know, just in my
in my frame of mind, I don't want to chase anything.
I want to do it when it's the right vibe
for for what I'm for the mode I'm in, I guess.

(01:01:38):
But we keep working. Everybody at this table is always
working on something, and that is that's the part of
our creative shit, is that we don't ever want to
stop working.

Speaker 7 (01:01:48):
And another thing a good thing about like doing features
with people you you you look up to or admire,
you know, like for me, if I did a record
with Time or ever Last or be Real, even see Minus.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
You know, like it wouldn't be no, I wouldn't need money.
We just do.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying, motherfuckers, Yeah, I gotta
charge you because I don't know who the fuck you
are through that.

Speaker 7 (01:02:14):
Family or like I'm doing the record with Snoop or Preach.
There's no money here. We're just gonna knock. Let's make
well because it's a job, right, But we do it
because we love it. But it's also a job.

Speaker 6 (01:02:24):
So I could be doing a song with Psycle Less
every day and you want to take me away from
that to do a song with you.

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
I gotta charge you is the personal right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Right, right. Look, some of us that like have gotten
down with each other for for a long time, we
do ship just off of gp that we're homies and
it's barter like whatever, I need you on this song,
Hey Less, I got a song, and you're gonna be
like yeah, all right, And we don't question that ship right,
and we don't charge each other and ship like that

(01:02:54):
because it ain't about the money for us. It's more
about the art and the fact that we're working together.
You know what I'm saying. We're others, you know, you
might not have that vibe or that connection or that
chemistry or that camaraderie, and you might say, hey, man,
I need ten racks for that song, and that's okay,
and then if you build a bridge from that song,

(01:03:14):
you may not ever charge that again when you work together.
But I've said, you know, there is a difference, you
know what I'm saying. And there's many motherfuckers that I
did shit for nothing, yeah, because like I considered them family.
So I'm like, I'm not going to fucking charge you
what I'm worth because I know you ain't got the
budget for it. I got love for you. Let's just
fucking do it. And others that I knew had the

(01:03:35):
budget for it and said, you know what, fuck that.
We're homies. You know you'll do something for me later.

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
You know what else too. My biggest songs were the
ones I didn't get paid for.

Speaker 6 (01:03:48):
My song with Mac Millan has thirty million streams or
just on Spotify me static and Mac did that in
the basement.

Speaker 4 (01:03:54):
Mac was an eighteen year old kid, nobody heard of
him yet.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
We were just having fun the way I look at it, right,
and y'all y'all could look at me crazy if I
say this, but the way I look at it is
that if if if I'm doing this ship like based
off of love and I'm not charging. It's about a
squad thing, right, and we're a team and we go
together and we're trying to make the song pop, right,

(01:04:21):
and the motherfuckers that that that that that I don't know,
but they're they're paying me for it.

Speaker 8 (01:04:27):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
It's like I'm a mercenary and I'm gonna kill everything.
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (01:04:33):
That fucking bars like this, this is this is this
is my it's.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
The mercenary flow. If you're paying me, you get the
mercenary flow. Where might be chopping your fucking head off
on that.

Speaker 6 (01:04:44):
Yeah, that's everybody here got crazy bars, you know. That's
that's where we all come from.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
Yeah, I mean, it's you know, look, it takes a
lot to get to the levels that we're at, you
know what I mean, because we didn't all start with that,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
Sense levels which we practiced the whole life doing this ship.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
Yes, we didn't all start off great, that would be
a great story if we could say that, but you know,
it took us, you know, years to get to the
levels we're at. So it's like, you know, when you
got love for people, you don't even have to fucking
put a value on those skills because it's all respected
and it's a mutual feeling, right. But when it's somebody

(01:05:25):
you don't know and they're they're gonna pay for that,
and they want you that bad that they will pay
for it, Yeah, I'm giving you mercenary flow. Well, and
you got to keep up with it.

Speaker 6 (01:05:40):
You don't know their intentions because they might be like, y'all,
I'm gonna pay b real x y Z and I'm
gonna body him watch, So their intentions is to outshine you. Now,
it's all competitive, right, everybody wants to have the best
verse on every song, right, but you also just got
to be on point when people ask you to get
on the song.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
Why. So, look, that is a great fucking point you
bring up term because look, we were just talking about
this shit the other day and it wasn't even on there.
We were talking about like, you know, back us as
nineties rappers, here a lot of us had chips on
our shoulder and we will overwrap on shit to show
you how dope we are. And whenever one of us

(01:06:16):
maybe from the older generation gets called to where you
used to be getting called on a feature. We would
try to outrap the motherfucker that asked us to be
on the song, yeah, to show them, hey, look we're nineties,
we're fucking right. And sometimes that was cool, and other
times you fucked up the song because you're over rapping

(01:06:37):
and it doesn't even connect with the artists you're getting with,
you know. And so you know, I realized that shit,
like when I was trying to like take someone's head off,
like did I make the song better or did I
just make me better? And if I just made me better,
then I'm fucking selfish, right, So I had to learn

(01:06:57):
to like disconnect from that. If if if I really
liked the song and I you know, got down with
the artist, that I would not overwrap it or try
to outrap them. I would like, do my ship snap in,
but make it cohesive with the people. I'm fucking do
it songwriting verse, yes, because I because I did my my, my,

(01:07:21):
you know, my run of trying to body everything and
body everybody, and then I realized, like I missed, I
missed the context of the song by like thinking this way,
like Tash fucking came on this show like months ago.
It called me out on that ship. They said, you
were trying to body me. Huh No. What he did
was he said, I sent you this song, and it

(01:07:44):
was a concept that I was gonna be high doing
the song. That's why my verse is kind of like,
you know, like like not not all the way on
point and and and a little bit slot because I'm
acting as if I'm high. I'm not really high, all right,
but this is how I'm acting because this is the
concept of the song. And I thought you would get that,

(01:08:05):
and you would wrap it as if you were kind
of slurring like you were drunk, like we would flip rolls.
He says, you didn't get it. You just wrapped your
ass off and killed me on the track. And yo,
and you know like that that that opened my eyes
to what my That that opened my eyes to what

(01:08:27):
my mentality was was that it was just kill everything
and not even listen to what what the concept was.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
If you were asked or told that that, hey, there's
a concept to this record, You're right real, listen to
what I'm doing. See if you vibe with it, that
you wouldn't have took a shot at that and got
it easily.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
That's called producing the record. If if if listen, because
I think he assumed that was going to get where
he was coming from based on what he had because
we didn't have a conversation on it. Because if I
you're right, if if I had had the conversation with
them about it, I would have totally have done it
like that. But it wasn't drunk, It wasn't It wasn't

(01:09:17):
his fault. I was trying, you know, I should have
paid attention more on it. But it was like the
way that I did this this joint called peer pressure
with with with de la soul right. They wanted me
to come off as this as if we're peer pressuring
pause to get ht right. And I didn't even write
any of my ship. They wrote it, but they thought
i'd be good to, like, you know, come in. I

(01:09:40):
think I wrote a piece of one of my pieces
in the verses where we're flipping back and forth. But
it was like we talked about it, so it was
a pre you know, there was a prediscussion before I
even did anything. This is the concept Mace, me and
Dave rest in Peace are trying to get pau to

(01:10:00):
like get high on the song. So I got it
with the context of that. So when they fed me
some of the lyrics, I was like, okay with it
because you know, this is what the song was about,
and they crafted it, you know what I mean. But
if they had just given it to me and I
would have just not even dug like went on the concept,
but just did went on a snap mission, it would

(01:10:22):
have fucked up the song. Yeah. Kind of what Prince
Paul told me for that record. Prince among Thieves was like, hey,
you're a racist cop. Go you body that record and
you bodd you're a racist cop. Go that's it. Write
a record. I like that be too. I like producers.

(01:10:44):
I like producers that can spill out an idea like
that to you, like give you a perspective that you
might not have been thinking. You might hear the beat
and say well, okay, I'm gonna write about this. But
then they come in and say, hey.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
I like Larry David Ship before Larry David because he
didn't write it. He just told you here's the story.
And he did it with every rapper on the record.
Every MC was just told like, here's your character. You
got to get from here to here with what you're saying.
But you don't know as I'm a racist cop. I'm
breaking into this guy. You know, I'm fucking hassling.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
But that's that's what I'm saying, right, is that great
producers like that hear the story on the beat before
you and flip it. Some of them, not all of them,
you know, some of them might just let you do
your thing, but like I still think that's to be
a Broadway show.

Speaker 6 (01:11:28):
Some of them have a vision tough, like the lin
Manuel Lyn Manuel.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
Yeah, I mean, let me let me think. Let me
tell you something.

Speaker 7 (01:11:39):
Us coming from like the old school, back in the
days when we did a posse cut, you didn't want
to be the weakest link.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
Hell no, for sure.

Speaker 7 (01:11:47):
What I'm saying like, like, for instance, let me tell
you something like Big Pun, perfect example, he would tell
you when he's on the post, He's like, Yo, I'm
taking everybody's head out, like I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
Taking it off. See when you got on with everybody's
and he did it? He did, Yeah, the rector he
was on, he's the man. I'll tell you what you know,
Like Joe getting on with Pun made Joe better because
he had to wrap on.

Speaker 6 (01:12:14):
A different level even that record y'all did. What would
you do if you could unbelieve y'all? Listen, listen, I'm
gonna say. I'm gonna say this again. I said it
somewhere else, or maybe I said it here. I don't know,
But like listening to Pun helped me shift into a
different style, because I because I'm a student of styles,

(01:12:37):
and he helped me shift into a different flow. My
like flow before listening the Pun would be some pauses
and different cadences where it stretches, sets it out. And
after I heard Pun, I unlocked a different flow pattern
and he inspired that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
You know what I mean, because I was hearing how
he was snapping, and I was like play was I used.

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
To wrap like when I was a kid, I used
to rap more like nas and met the man like
it was like.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
Like slower.

Speaker 6 (01:13:08):
But then when I started, when I started hearing like Pun,
I wanted to do more like the that in the
middle of a little I wanted to go like that.

Speaker 4 (01:13:16):
Like he helped me like change speeds and know how
to attack to be different.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
That's that's the same ship he did for me. Like
you know that, you know people don't hear that ship enough.
But he influenced many in terms of that just the
way that the cool g rap Rap.

Speaker 6 (01:13:34):
To me, I always looked at it like g rap
made it up and then like pun took it to
another level. My style that I used I got from
them to yeh, I mean, g rap is one of
the most prolific. If you ask Eminem who's your favorite rapper,
He's gonna tell you those guys made a big pun

(01:13:54):
back in the days.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
He would tell you, amazing guys that change wrapped the most,
like from the era into whatever it became, were wrapped
him and.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
And game out of the out of the giants, out
of the giants at that time. And shock, man, no doubt,
there's my mount. That is a great mount rushmore. But
let me tell you what out of all those giants,
k g Rap had the most fluent flow out of
all of impact. He still yes impact listen, impacted syllables

(01:14:33):
within the context of the each phrase, right that like
just bounce so.

Speaker 6 (01:14:38):
You rhyme like four times within one measure, within one bar.
He created that style's every other word.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
Yeah, I mean like to me, he's one of the
sickest styles that ever existed in in hip hop rap
ship like your favorite rappers, rappers, rapper g rap I.

Speaker 4 (01:14:59):
Just finished my first joint? What what was that smoking?

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
So? I mean asked, what's this you just gave me?
That's some flavors.

Speaker 4 (01:15:07):
Let's bust it over over?

Speaker 6 (01:15:08):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
Luigi? I don't know. I just gave it to you.
World up. It's a national paw Paw Day. I don't
know asking what I'm smoking. I don't know what pop
paw is called. What Paul like? What pops like at that?
It says Paul like, Okay, it's this. It's a plant
all day. Yeah, there must be some kind of thing

(01:15:30):
that happens kind of fruit. It's a fruit, all right, Cool,
We're taking another shot. Was going on? And it is.
It's the Air Force. It's but I heard you. Oh
you're good. Yeah, I got mine. And it is also
the Air Force's birthday. Happy birthday air Force, like the
real like the Space Force or Air Force, Air Force,
Space Force. How old is the Air Force? Berry?

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
Oh, that's a good question.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
I'm gonna guess round about one hundred and eleven nineteen.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
What the Air Force is seventy eight years old?

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
A nineteen forty seven yeah, World War Sorry whatever, history teacher,
air Force of me right now?

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
Why was the air force created so.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
They could go bomb Germany, to bomb thing, to bomb
thingk and fly people places to kill other people? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
I got bomb this bomb the ship out of Germany
back in the day. The Department of War says, so, yeah, ship,
we are way behind. Did you know it is the
birthday of the late great D. D Ramone born on
this dad nineteen fifty one. Bad motherfucker right here. That's
just cool, all right, he ramones forever. Dude. Hey, I'll

(01:16:42):
tell you what. The guy who reminds me of D.
D Ramone right now is Robert Trujillo's son. The way
he plays, not not necessarily what he's playing, but like
the energy and style that he plays on stage reminds me.
Even his look is kind of D. D Ramone style.
Well not right here, because it's hair is longer, but
he's cut his hair. Ties of badass there. Yeah, he's

(01:17:03):
badass man tie true heel and I can't play for
years place for doing it. Please for suicidal tendencies right now,
he's a bad ass. Did you know it is the
birthday of the late great James Gandolfini born on This
Dad nineteen sixty one. Legend, Yes, legend, great actor. This
man here. I've been thinking about finishing the Sofronos too.

(01:17:25):
What you never finished this a product? Man?

Speaker 4 (01:17:27):
Come on, bro, The last episode is iconic, That's what
I hear.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
I'm thinking. I'm thinking. You know, I got a mac
so I think I'm gonna you should. Man, it's worth it, Okay,
but the last episode you'll either love it or you'll
hate it.

Speaker 4 (01:17:47):
I kind of hated it, but as I get older,
I understand it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
Yes, that part you might understand it. You're you're already
in the age of understanding, so you might understand it,
love it or hate it. There's no no, there's no
in between. Like God, it's okay. No, you're gonna love
it or hate this is right? Let mee. Yeah, good art.

Speaker 4 (01:18:09):
It makes you feel something?

Speaker 6 (01:18:11):
Yeah, what you feel? Yes, But good art makes you
feel something it is and that was great art.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
Did you know? It is the birthday of Ricky Bell?
From new edition at BBD. Happy Birthday, Going on This
Dead nineteen sixty seven. Ricky Bell? Do mean they had hell?

Speaker 6 (01:18:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
He got hits?

Speaker 6 (01:18:34):
Hey Bell b Lot of Boston lot of Boston. You
know what I mean, Boston energy, so Boston with that seven.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
Did you know in nineteen seventy Jimmy Hendrix passed away
recipes Jimmy Hendrix late, great legend, pioneer of heaviness. Oh
dude what cry? Yep? He can make it talk man, talk,
make it rap. He make me do? What the fuck
it is?

Speaker 7 (01:18:59):
He?

Speaker 8 (01:19:00):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
You have a sample Jimmy Hendricks what record? Do we
know it? I know, I know.

Speaker 4 (01:19:06):
Sometimes we don't tell, but sometimes are you cleared?

Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
The Hey?

Speaker 11 (01:19:09):
We we we definitely have. We definitely have my highest lover.
Boodle Child snitches on YouTube Google.

Speaker 6 (01:19:19):
Yeah, did you know that with that ship they got
a whole team trying to trying to snitch on you
with the with the samples.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
Now world up? Did you know it is the birthday
of Exhibit Happy birthday to my bro Exhibits x Z
nex to the z got that new ship coming, that
new joint out King Maker er he Gang album Birth Crazy. Yeah. Man,
it's a banging as album. He did it on that

(01:19:46):
bro Connor McGregor this label, just to switch it up. Yeah,
it's a smooth I like it. Yes. Did you know
in nineteen eighty three, Kiss appeared in an MTV interview
without makeup for the very first time with VJ. That
was JJ Jackson.

Speaker 8 (01:20:05):
So that's uh, from left to right, it's Eric Carr,
that's JJ Jackson's Gene Simmons, Vinnie Vincent family.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
On the right, that's Harek Carr. All the way on
the left, that's the drummer. He looks He definitely looks. Yeah,
pretty much.

Speaker 8 (01:20:19):
They decided to go makeup free and they did it
on MTV and they were premiered the video to Lick
it Up and then they blew up. They started to
blow up from okay taking the makeup and you were
you were a huge fan, yeah of Kiss. That like,
how did that make you feel? When when when they
popped off without the makeup? I was kind of bummed

(01:20:41):
because I wanted to see the makeup version, you know
that you heard about and I seen like all the
pictures and the magazines and ship and I wanted to
see that show.

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
And here they come with their faces all out. And
of course that's the first show I ever got to
see them lick it up. Telling you to lick it
up even no, sorry, Geen, that's why they went back.
They went back to the iconic bakeup last one two albums.

Speaker 3 (01:21:08):
No, they did like fifteen no.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
No without the making. Yeah, they make fifteen albums without
the makeup.

Speaker 8 (01:21:14):
No, No, fifteen years, fifteen years, Like they went fifteen
years without the makeup. Yes, it was from they took
it up. They took the makeup eighty four, I.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
Think was that? Like, what year was that?

Speaker 5 (01:21:25):
Bolton I'm seeing a Kiss made six studio albums. Uh,
Kiss made six studio albums without the makeup before the
band's first unmasked tour in nineteen eighty three.

Speaker 8 (01:21:34):
Wow, they fucked up after Yes, lick it Up and
then pick it up Animal right here?

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
Yeaheah, well, hey let's let's let's be glad they went
back to the fucking makeup.

Speaker 4 (01:21:46):
We want to see our legends, like the way that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
We let you know. I don't want to see Clark.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
I don't want to see something about any of those
albums except the title track of the nineteen eighty three
one and Lick It Up was a good song though,
And that was what I did fuck out And that
was when I was like, oh man, my childhood just died.

Speaker 12 (01:22:04):
Yeah damn, yeah, who I knew I was a man
in that moment. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that that
was nineteen eighty three.

Speaker 1 (01:22:17):
I think that was that fucking day you were fourteen
years old, son.

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
Yo, and I was like rock box over fucking lick
it up. Yeah forever, same sease, that's it. Yeah, all right,
next one. Oh wait, we ain't even there yet, are we?

Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
No, we are not all right. We're about to open
up the doors to the insane asylum. That means y'all
got a comic question, shout out suggestion, we are here
for it, bing bang, Oh you didn't lick it up?
Lick it up.

Speaker 5 (01:22:52):
We got Jamie in here saying, yo, big show to
be real. I just listened to your collab with Outcast Explosion.
That's a really good song, and that's my ship since
ninety one.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
You know what's crazy is that we were talking about
that song yesterday with Armene. Armine was here sloop to
my bro Armene another bar spitting motherfucker, and we were
talking about that collapse because it was unexpected. I did it,
and it pertains to the conversation we were talking about before,
where we're uh, we're talking about head and taking motherfucker's

(01:23:25):
heads off on the track and being selfish and shit
like that. That was the track I got selfish on
because I did not even think that Outcast would call me.
I didn't know I was on their radar like that, right,
So they asked me to be on the ship and
it's an aggressive, up tempo track and at the time,
I had beef with Double Excel and the Source magazine

(01:23:46):
and all those guys, and I fucking snapped on him
on that track and not thinking that that could lead
to repercussions for Outcast, that was being very selfish. Yeah, well,
you know, it's a song and here I am airing
these motherfuckers out and they probably didn't expect me to
air them out on that song. So you know, I

(01:24:08):
salute to them because they didn't ask me to change
the verse and they put it out and gave me
my platinum plaque for that. But yeah, yeah, so it
was unexpected. But like, that's on that track, you know,
that's one of the tracks I noticed, man, I was
very selfish on that, and that's when I started flipping

(01:24:29):
my frame of mind that I'm gonna like be on
songs with people and try to make the song better
and not just be taking motherfucker's heads out. Yeah, yeah,
you gotta take everybody's head out. I mean, I'm gonna
do that regardless, but I'm saying I'm gonna do it
more in the context of the song than like going
off grid.

Speaker 4 (01:24:45):
Sometimes we come in, we come into.

Speaker 7 (01:24:47):
A The best records are when everyone's taking every head
over everything well yeah, everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
Like serve yourself, the song and the record, which are
all three to different things at the same time. Though,
you have to learn that though war Porn was never
once us in the room locca were any of us
in the room trying to be like now I'm gonna
let somebody else trying.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
Well whoever. But that's the point. It's it's like whoever
said it earlier. No one's trying to be the weakest
link on the track. But that's what makes the tracks great.

Speaker 6 (01:25:24):
The record we did with Premiere Me Everlast, Bumbye and Slain.
The coolest thing about the comments section is all our
fans going to war you crazy terminology killed it? Now
you bugging everlast body Joall now you bugging bum Bee?

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
Oh Slain? Like you don't love that? Now look now
now looking hold on hold on real quick, let me
make this point. Let me make this point because songs
like that are ones that aren't necessarily a concept song.
It's just got a good, good chorus, but everybody's going
for broke, right, and when it's you read that stuff. Oh,

(01:25:58):
I remember the video that was make it very much for.

Speaker 4 (01:26:03):
That, but for real, like that was a legendary moment.
But I've never seen that ship call that.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
It's like half and it goes down gradient. So what
I was saying is in context of pull up. What
I'm saying in context of these tracks, right, is it
when you get a song that's non conceptual, it's just
like it's a good chorus and everybody's trying to snap.
That's different. You can go for the fucking neck on that.

(01:26:35):
But when it's when it's when it's a record conceptual track, right,
you kind of can't. I mean, you could snap in
the in the in the context of the concept, but
like you can't just go on some crazy rapper ship
and like disregard what the concept is. Then you ruin
the song. And that's the ship I'm saying is that before.

(01:26:56):
I don't think a lot of us recognize that we
just went for the head on every fucking song. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:27:02):
Yeah, I like the songwriting better these days, to be honest,
I mean, I know, I know all of y'all got
big records, Like y'all know what it is writing a song.
Writing a good song is better than just bodying it.
But the fun of hip hop, how we loved it
was the body in it. But our job and like
connecting with the fans in our career and our legacy is.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
To write a big record. I believe.

Speaker 7 (01:27:21):
I believe every hip hop album should have a posse joint,
at least one a couple couple. Yeah, then you could
go back into your world, you know, you gotta have
that one joint car the web that should come on.

Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
And it's like, now you're right though, I mean, because
that is like almost traditional, Like like you were just saying,
is that used to be the get down, Like you
at least had one posse fucking cut on an album.
Hell yeah, But now it's like you got a motherfucker
on every other fucking song. I mean, like that's the
ship I hate is that when it's a whole album

(01:27:58):
full of features, Yeah, because.

Speaker 4 (01:28:01):
You don't get to know who the artist is.

Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
Yeah, I could. I could get I can get down
with two three features. I cannot get down with features
every song. That shit is crazy. I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
I mean the betting all the corners on motherfucker lad,
it's like you know what I mean, you inch a head, Yeah,
you'll inch a head because that's some those guys out.
It's all if you're playing that, you're playing an algorithm game.
You're not making record.

Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
I mean, if you're making an album, that is.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
I mean no, I get it. But like you know,
if you're making an album, that's that like, Okay, I'm
the producer, I don't rap. I'm getting all these motherfuckers
on it, right because we've seen that. We've seen a
number of motherfuckers do that. But like if it's an
artist and then you got a feature on every goddamn song,
that's just like you. It feels like it's like you
only wrote half the album, like you can't carry it.

(01:28:50):
Like if you got all these features, it means you
can't carry it and you're depending on all these motherfuckers
right here that you got on to help you push
your line, and and like that just.

Speaker 7 (01:28:58):
Mean they are rappers like that, yeah, do that every
song is featuring fucking you know whoever?

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
You know?

Speaker 6 (01:29:07):
My thing is this, right, I personally have wrote so
many albums and so many songs and executive produced so
many albums that I get bored. So I'm like, I'll
hit an up and coming rapper. You'll send me something
to this beat, and when I hit that energy, it
makes me want to rap. And that's sometimes where you
get a lot of features. But to be honest, like,
if it's a your album, it should be you.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
I mean, if you got the whole fucking thing you
know featured up, you should just call it the feature
I didn't want. It's called a compilation. It's called the compilation.
I got an album.

Speaker 4 (01:29:39):
It's called all my Friends on it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:42):
You know. All that's that. But when you're doing a solo,
that's right, all right? What else you got?

Speaker 5 (01:29:47):
Let's see, we got a mic and you're asking your term?
Any wild stories making Out the Gate the album.

Speaker 6 (01:29:52):
Out the Gate, Well, coolest thing about Out the Gate
was like it was my transition from not being known
to being known as right before premiere me watch How
Go Down?

Speaker 1 (01:30:01):
And my life changed.

Speaker 6 (01:30:02):
So Out the Gate was made like when I was
like twenty one, you know, just had my daughter, like
I was like a little kid in my mind. Now
looking back, you know, my daughter's twenty one now, so
like looking back on it, it's like, that's probably the
craziest version you're going to ever get me because I
recorded the whole album when I was like twenty whereas
you hit me now, I'm a green ass man, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:30:24):
But twenty I was bugging.

Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
We were all bugging, right, Oh yeah, twenty twenty is
the bug out is a good year? What cheers?

Speaker 7 (01:30:33):
All right, Well you're supposed to if I, like I said,
you're supposed to wild out in your twenties' that's you know, yeah,
out the way, ready to get it out of your system.

Speaker 1 (01:30:43):
Yeah, man, all right.

Speaker 5 (01:30:44):
Next, Western Goods is saying, yo, I remember watching the
beat Nuts and turn back or out in Oakland.

Speaker 4 (01:30:49):
Slu to you guys, Yes, sir, there we go out
to Oakland.

Speaker 10 (01:30:52):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
That's right for the pop off for us. So I'm
glad I was just because and actually got less wild
after twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:31:01):
And and and don't think the teenage years was was
teenage years? Was wow? Going into any money? If we
really wold going in Yeah, going into the twenties as wild.
So if you got any of that problem, it took
a little bit of time. Yeah, imagine like the Disney
stars that go from teen into like to young adulthood.

(01:31:26):
Imagine how wilding out they are they and they have
to do it on the low because their contract. Yeah
you know drink. Yeah, you can't be doing any of
that ship in public.

Speaker 5 (01:31:36):
All right, let's see here, Nate sane, you'll be real.
You guys should do a live podcast straight from the
smoke box.

Speaker 1 (01:31:42):
I was thinking about, man, and maybe we will. Maybe
we will. Windows up? It takes no hell no, no,
well we over that now? Do we retire? Well no,
we got it. No, we got a c now, so
we could do it, bro Windows up? Yeah, windows up. Well,

(01:32:05):
the way we cover it now is it's as if
the windows are up because the smoke doesn't go in
it is lower. Otherwise it can't be called the smoke box.
Doesn't matter. Man, the lights.

Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
I've smoked lots of weed with you at that place.
Never had me tap, but in the back of my
brain it was like you could you know, like both
Remember you can leave anytime you They had to happen
a few times.

Speaker 1 (01:32:30):
Just remember you can leave it Hell No, I think
most people that are going through it comfort I think
whatever I want. I think most people that are going
through it in the moment when they're in the box,
it's like when is this ship over?

Speaker 6 (01:32:43):
Yeah, I ain't gonna lie that. That went through my
mind like halfway through the interview, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:32:48):
But but it was so fun. I'm like, man, fuck that,
Let's get high.

Speaker 8 (01:32:51):
Yeah, you know, you just got to embrace it. No,
you just got to get acclimated to the smoke. Once
you get acclimated to the smoke, like just being so heavy,
being still and being still polutely still slipt, you just
lower your breathing. You know, you can't do like Joe
Rogan was where he's like twitching all about man, Joe
Rogan in the smoke box. Yeah, I gotta see that.

(01:33:13):
I mean, that's let me tell you something.

Speaker 7 (01:33:15):
I was in the smoke box, and there's moments where
you go into your brain and you're like, yo, what
the did I do it?

Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
There's a moment like when you're at Disney Disneyland House
and the ghosts is sitting next to you.

Speaker 7 (01:33:28):
Yeah, that's your high. Yeah, Like moments this moment, it'll
step up on you. You guess it's the record. I'm
a joint you want, I'm like in my third joint
for the record.

Speaker 1 (01:33:41):
Let's go, man, let me look at him. Does he
look comfortable? High ship? And yes, Bosol was totally blowing
him up. Yeah, he ship. He's looking at me like, yo,
He's like, what if I do it? Here? Have I
done with my life? Why did I agree to this?

(01:34:03):
You need a smoke machine? Going to the Spotify? Yeah,
this was a couple of years back. And yeah, folks, yeah,
he doesn't smoke like we do. But like people, different
people think that you know, all of us, no, less
less less, it's different less. Let's listen to me. He smokes,

(01:34:26):
sure enough, he does, and he's done it on the air,
But the frequency that we smoke with down here, he
does not. Not many people do. Look, he's lifting his
shoulder for fuck's sake, you know what I'm saying. Like
he put that joint down. He didn't want no part
of it. He almost already he was already getting him

(01:34:48):
hot smoke. All right, all right, next one before we
get carried away.

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
I was gonna say it wasn't this like just his
only he only had like a hit or two. Yeah,
because he smoked.

Speaker 7 (01:34:58):
For did not realizing it before the joke someone he
really looks like he just gave him some bombs and
he's like, yeah smoking.

Speaker 1 (01:35:07):
No if if I'm if I'm remembering correctly, the zone
I think gave him a dab before the show. There
it is, and so he was already like fucking you know,
high as far looks Yeah, you know, I had to
tell these stop dabbing people out before we get in
the box because they'll tap faster. You know what I'm saying,

(01:35:30):
The dabs get you high as fuck. If that's something
you don't do it, you've done it for the first time,
then then hold up, I'm of it. But no, I'm saying,
if you've done it for the first time, then you
try to get into the smoke box after. That's not
an easy fucking to smoke. Yeah, that's what That's what
joke did. Okay, Yeah, that's why he plans he could

(01:35:52):
do it.

Speaker 5 (01:35:53):
He's a little uncomfortable, stupid saying yo, yo, what's up guys,
You guys to come back to the Boston You need
to come back to Boston for another Haunted Halloween show.

Speaker 3 (01:36:03):
The new venue, the MGM Theater is connected to Fenway Park.

Speaker 1 (01:36:08):
We're working on it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:13):
Multi.

Speaker 5 (01:36:13):
Carson is saying, again great at great ensemble tonight. Much
love all the way from Germany.

Speaker 1 (01:36:17):
Salute.

Speaker 5 (01:36:22):
Loop Loopy is saying, did you guys ever take knife
hits back in the day two butter knives from a
stove to smoke your hash and weed?

Speaker 1 (01:36:29):
I've never done it. I always heard about it, hits.
It's like pre it predates, like you know, daping. I
guess it seems heroin me. Yeah, you put the deal, think.

Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
You might as well use it in apone, right, Yeah,
it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:36:51):
It wasn't necessarily something we did on.

Speaker 2 (01:36:53):
Our I've done the little uh pardon me, bend up
the baby, you know, pin burn it, put it under
the glass, yeah, at the edge of the table.

Speaker 1 (01:37:09):
Well, you know, you remember skate master Tate, right, the
thing he taught me with with getting the hash, like
if it was a soft ball of hash and you
could stick a pin in it, not yes, yes, now,
you couldn't do this with the dry, bricky hash. It
had to be that soft ship, right, Yes, he would.

(01:37:31):
He would stick a pin in it and he would
light it up for a couple of seconds. Let it burn,
but not all the way, and then he'd blow it
out and drop it into the pile of weed and
then you know, break it up together. Well the weed
was already broken up, but he would drop the the
soft ball of hash in there after it's been lit
up a little bit, and then mix it with the
weed and then roll that up. He called that the

(01:37:53):
marriage and that was like a really good way to
like roll hash without the crazy run and all that stuff.
And it's like it's in the fucking weed. Bro, we
used to get lit to that. Escape Master take rest
in peace taught me that little trick. You don't burn
it all the way. You let it heat up, let

(01:38:14):
it get warm, and then you drop it into the
into the weed pile and mix it in and then
roll that ship up.

Speaker 4 (01:38:20):
Did you ever used to put like little sprinkles of
hash in your blunts?

Speaker 1 (01:38:22):
Well this was the hash. We take the chunk of hash,
light it, warm it up, and then put it all
into the weed and mix mix it and all like
little crumbles. No. No, we took the whole goddamn ball.
And we were we were extreme dog I mean, you know,
that's why we're monsters at this ship.

Speaker 7 (01:38:43):
I remember being in Europe one time, somewhere out there.
I was out there, we only had hash, no weeds. Listen,
I fucking rolled the hash bluns. You never smoked the
hash hash?

Speaker 1 (01:38:59):
Yeah, that ship? Have you lightheaded? Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:39:03):
I mean when you all got hoist on the road,
because back in the days, so that was all you
could find in Europe.

Speaker 7 (01:39:09):
And that a lot of hash. Yeah, we'll twisted in
a cigar. You're pulling up to that little cigar. You know,
back in the days, we're stupid.

Speaker 6 (01:39:18):
But smoke a whole blunt a hash is crazy, yeah,
twenty twenty five, you never do that, ship.

Speaker 1 (01:39:24):
What's crazy is that they would like sprinkle the fucking
hash and the tobacco, not even putting it in weed.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:39:31):
In Europe, that's that's that's crazy, ship. Look at you
crazy for just smoking a straight weed.

Speaker 6 (01:39:37):
You smoke pure, You smoke pure. Hell yeah, all that
smoke is pure. What you mean, don't put the tobacco
on my blunt?

Speaker 1 (01:39:43):
Yeah? Well, you know that's us on this side of
the water, you know, like they like now you'll see
a lot of Euros did smoke pure. Yeah, But back
in the day. Back in the early nineties when we
were going down there, it was like you were lucky
if you got any weed in those fuckings.

Speaker 2 (01:39:57):
Every other town it would be like, no, I could
do that, I can smoke, let me tell you that.
More people just say, hey, though, we smoked, and this
is before we the weed was even weed. But of course,
again being on tour with these guys, the cats would
come out to Woodwork to try and prove something. They
always have a Yeah, there'd always be somebody'd be like, no,

(01:40:18):
I can smoke it fucking before the show. They're getting
wheeled out, you know, wheelchair or on a fucking Bernie.
People don't know ambulance. People don't know till they know.
All right, what else you got?

Speaker 5 (01:40:33):
Double M's asking a terminology. Remember the Abunde album where
he did the eleven hour live stream in one day.

Speaker 4 (01:40:38):
Yeah, that was amazing. Shot the static select up.

Speaker 6 (01:40:43):
I wasn't invited to either one. Well guess what your
static We're gonna so we're gonna invite you to number five.
This is the fifth one we've done.

Speaker 1 (01:40:53):
Invited. I would invite all the clean up crew of.

Speaker 6 (01:40:57):
Like no, no, I mean listen, you just say you
don't like rapping, you know, but if you want to rap,
we'll invite you to the true Static five. So what
we do is we make an album in a day, right,
Static does all the beats? Is Bun, Yeah, he gots
but we do it live on you on U stream
right in on YouTube now, but you stream in twenty ten.

(01:41:17):
The first one we did and we it was I
did one, Freddy Gibbs did one, Freeway did one, Saigon
did one, and then when we got Bun. By the
time we got to Bun, it was it was lit.
So Bun and Static got it tri Static. We're doing
part five this December. And what we do is we
do a whole album live within twelve hours on YouTube.

Speaker 1 (01:41:37):
Is he doing the beats from scratch or just now
he brings the beats?

Speaker 6 (01:41:41):
We pick him on the spot right and Bun writes
ten to twelve verses, and it's like, you know, all
the bros pull up, Fat Joe pulled up, all the
different artists pull up, met the Man pulled up, like
we all just anybody who wants to rap with us
pop it off. Everlast is pulling up to number five
be real pull So.

Speaker 1 (01:41:58):
This is pure nonsense. The five albums. Hey, I haven't
been on one.

Speaker 4 (01:42:04):
Hey, listen, both of y'all are invited this December, we're
doing Static five.

Speaker 1 (01:42:09):
You guys are invited. You you were the invitations there.

Speaker 6 (01:42:12):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:42:12):
I wasn't complained. I was just illustrated to him that
I was that that ship and that's the dope. That's
that's that's a dope concept though, you know, to me,
that's a dope concept. Okay, we're all just talking. I'm

(01:42:34):
just I'm just answering, what what what?

Speaker 7 (01:42:37):
What everlast was talking about term I was like, definitely
turned one of the most slept on you know, I
mean not really slept on because people know.

Speaker 1 (01:42:47):
Yeah he's nice and true. That true that the man's
got heat. Bars. I just Boston, you guys, Boston, right
bars masks right there. I don't know, let them know.
That's right being town, That's right. A lot of good beer,

(01:43:07):
lot of trouble maker. I'm a troublemaker. Let me tell
you something.

Speaker 7 (01:43:12):
If term Ever invites you to go somewhere and meet him,
best believe that we're going to be drinking.

Speaker 13 (01:43:19):
It's you know, some ladies, it might be something some hip,
some drinks. Music is always good. It's the vibe.

Speaker 1 (01:43:30):
It's the VI.

Speaker 7 (01:43:32):
I'm saying, create the vibe and static. That's the that's
the twins right there. Yeah, that's my dog Static. Anytime
we got to get static down. Static man, y'all do
the DJ show after right, Yeah, we rock and we're
gonna do a little little sight for sight for for show.

Speaker 5 (01:43:51):
All right, saying yo, I saw cypress well back in
Cincinnati and the show is amazing and the big show
to everlast for being on the show. I would love
to hear everlast thought on his song. It ain't easy.
The fact that that song was not a megasmash still
amazes me. Love that song so much.

Speaker 1 (01:44:07):
Well, thank you. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:44:09):
Sometimes shit happens, sometimes it don't thanks to people like you.
I don't need huge smash records. You know, life is good,
But thank you. I appreciate that. I love that song.
I attribute stuff like that to that.

Speaker 1 (01:44:23):
Sometimes the record companies don't know how to market that
song well, you know, or you don't have the same
budget as a major to be able to market a
bit that, A little bit of that.

Speaker 4 (01:44:35):
That's what the fans don't know. But why it didn't
blow up, maybe the label sucked.

Speaker 1 (01:44:39):
Or or you know, or the label was good but
didn't have the money for the marketing part. Because that,
you know, what we all forget about as independent artists
because we've been disconnected from let's just say a major
for so long. Is the resource in that you're with
the major and they got marketing and voting and it's
a part of your budget. All that shit. Now you

(01:45:00):
got to recoup all that, so it takes a long
time for you to get your money. But the one
thing that you know is that they're like putting money
so that everybody knows about your shit. Because you could
have the greatest fucking album out, but if nobody knows
about it and they got to find their way to it,
they may do it in time, but in the time
you wanted to it might not happen like that unless

(01:45:22):
you got a viral song, unless it goes But.

Speaker 2 (01:45:25):
Mostly sometimes, like I said, I'm the label, so I
have an audience right that you know, I'm what thirty
plus something years and making records and whatnot. A good
portion of that independent, owning my own stuff, and so
I have a certain amount of money I spend on marketing, radio, this, that,
and the rest and it's like the rest is like,
all right, if I cross that line, I got to

(01:45:48):
see something really giving action for me to really to
go first, go pass that line.

Speaker 1 (01:45:52):
Yeah, no, I hear go.

Speaker 2 (01:45:53):
My formula works and I'll make my money and I'll
do all right, and my fans will be fine. I'm
happy where I'm at. Yeah, one out the park. There's
always a shot. It's always just because of the history.
I'll get looks at radio. All I need is reaction.
Is sometimes you get it, sometimes you don't.

Speaker 1 (01:46:09):
Yeah, I mean yeah, sometimes you take a really good
swing and you know as you should the next, the
next one.

Speaker 2 (01:46:18):
I think people will be I think so too, man,
I tell you people are a little little surprised.

Speaker 1 (01:46:23):
I think they are. I heard it that wedding for
no heat. Yeah, so people are open right now. For sure.
They need that good ship the man beforehand. We'll come
in a little early.

Speaker 7 (01:46:36):
Actually, actually they don't need it. They're fiending for absolutely
absolutely all right, what else you got over there?

Speaker 3 (01:46:44):
Let's see here.

Speaker 5 (01:46:44):
So right now we got an r s MD saying
a sokel punk rock legend Keith Morris.

Speaker 3 (01:46:49):
It's his birthday today.

Speaker 1 (01:46:50):
Happy birthday, Keith Morris. Pean Morris.

Speaker 5 (01:46:52):
Yeah, yeah, Circle Jerks black fag, black black flag and
off black flag?

Speaker 1 (01:47:03):
Did that Minnesota thick flag? Flag fag? Not? I think
flag on the play Circle Dregs. Guy that Joey C playing.
I was about to say, I think Joey C is
playing for them. Yeah, killing it, Joey's kills it.

Speaker 5 (01:47:17):
Salut flex Luthor saying a slute the term still bummed.
I missed the pop show in Denver. Shout to the table,
salute to you.

Speaker 6 (01:47:25):
Yeah, I love Denver, Man one of my favorite cities.
I've been to pretty much every state at this point,
I think like forty eight. I think I've never been
to Mississippi, and I don't know one other one anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:47:36):
I used Mississippi is a song? Right yeah, yes, side,
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:47:43):
I just smoked three joints.

Speaker 1 (01:47:44):
Bro, I'm not a spell couple. Yeah, everybody's trying to
sing it to their head right now, even if people
watch it. Wait, how does that go a good?

Speaker 11 (01:47:58):
I mean, who wants to go first selling spelling, B
B spelling, highest show in the fucking world?

Speaker 2 (01:48:09):
All right, be a man that means you can't spell Mississippi?
I mean I did that high that I him.

Speaker 6 (01:48:16):
The whole part of right now, I'm not I'm notoriously
not a lot of I'm like what the am I am?

Speaker 1 (01:48:27):
I s.

Speaker 2 (01:48:30):
Well singing the song man, he's singing the song that
leubled down on the I S S and then I
and the PP.

Speaker 1 (01:48:39):
I'm retarded.

Speaker 4 (01:48:40):
I might need another joint man. When I finished this,
We're going on number four.

Speaker 1 (01:48:45):
There you go, Yeah, I got spoken like a stouter.

Speaker 5 (01:48:49):
All right, let's see flex Luthor's all saying your collabed
with Paul Wall was dope, and it's cool to hear
a Houston rapper spit bars on a traditional beat.

Speaker 6 (01:48:57):
Yeah, man, shout out to Paul Wabo. I love Paul Wall.
We're in our third album right now. The first two
did really well. We got this is the cool thing
about this, right Paul Wall is a great rapper, and
because he blew up with the slow flow, people don't
understand how much of an intricate MC he is. So
when I took Paul Wall and I put him on

(01:49:18):
pete rock beat, a diamond d beat, wild beat, a
static selected beat, a dang grease beat, like I put
Paul Wall, He's been He's wilding yeah, and I put
him but I specifically as an A and R and
just knowing how to produce, not make the beat, but produce,
like outside making records. I put Paul Wall in a
space where he can snap, and we've done records that

(01:49:41):
are crazy, bro, and I ain't gonna lie. I got
like a ninety nine per body rate. Like if I
get a song with you, I'm I'm smoking you, like
all day. It's easy for me, Like that's what I do.
And Paul really went crazy on the album. I'm like, damn,
I just sit back a few times, like, man, he
might have got me.

Speaker 1 (01:49:56):
Something. Let me tell you something.

Speaker 7 (01:49:58):
Paul is an MC's see yeah, but he's not known
for that the head and sleep one man, I don't
sleep one second.

Speaker 1 (01:50:08):
He got styles, his styles, styles, and wow, baby, that's
my dog.

Speaker 7 (01:50:13):
He's man cool. And I always see him with the
with the fronts, with the with the Asian.

Speaker 1 (01:50:18):
Dude dang on the ring shout up man dang. I
got at him. Salute all right, next one, all.

Speaker 5 (01:50:26):
Right, sweetheart, saying yo stoked. You guys have terminology on
the show Big Show to Massachusetts.

Speaker 1 (01:50:31):
Big nine seven eight chats, Yeah, I mean trus.

Speaker 3 (01:50:37):
You're living out there, you out here me?

Speaker 1 (01:50:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:50:40):
You out in mass right now?

Speaker 4 (01:50:41):
Yeah, I'm out in mass man. Lots of that seven eight, nice, big,
nice seven eight.

Speaker 3 (01:50:45):
You've heard all right?

Speaker 5 (01:50:47):
Next t here we got a tony. He's saying, do
you guys like to do shrooms, hash, paper, acid, mescaline?
If you guys could choose one, which one would it be?

Speaker 1 (01:50:57):
Yep? I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (01:50:58):
Show me a wick one strooms, But I ain't doing
shrooms or coke or what, I don't know whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:51:06):
They didn't say coke, but that was what would you
wish they had? Was it the the coke on the
menu be throwing? I guess brothers instincts, hands are gonna
say shrooms, troops. I don't know if I heard. It's
messing coke, so mescalin, paper acid, mushrooms and what was

(01:51:30):
the other one?

Speaker 3 (01:51:32):
Let me see here, shrooms, hash, paper, acid, mescal in.

Speaker 7 (01:51:35):
Hash For me, yeah, hash, that's easy. We smoked out
the bus. I'm still going with mushrooms. Shrooms is a
long commitment. Rooms over hash.

Speaker 1 (01:51:47):
Yeah nah, that's.

Speaker 4 (01:51:51):
Just like I'm smoking smoked time blunts.

Speaker 1 (01:51:53):
I get listen, I get high all the time off
of some good flour. And there ain't no hash in
the world that's gonna taste as good as the flower
unless it's like the new form of hash that we
smoked today, not that brown ship that's gonna get you high.
And there's a little bit of taste to that, but
it doesn't taste not as good as any flower we
smoke today. So and and and that's just the form

(01:52:16):
of getting stolen off with th HC. So like realistically,
now you know, if I'm gonna go for the unexperienced,
it hurts from the doctor. Yeah, No, I mean mushrooss,
mushrooss and learning I get high all the time. Mushrooms done,
I get hot.

Speaker 5 (01:52:35):
Big showed it to a Joaquin big Schow to Louise,
thank you so much for the super chat. Mike's asking
a term. What was your first car after a big bag?

Speaker 2 (01:52:43):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:52:44):
I had a lot of cars, man.

Speaker 6 (01:52:46):
One of my favorite was like a nineteen eighty six Mercedes,
like the one like rock Kim, like being rock Kim
had on one of the covers in E P. M.

Speaker 5 (01:52:53):
D had.

Speaker 4 (01:52:54):
My father used to build low riders. That was a sports.

Speaker 6 (01:52:59):
Yeah, it was a one ninety was a little baby one.
But we souped it out. My dad put the presidential
tints on it. I had the eighteen inch rams you
know chrome.

Speaker 1 (01:53:07):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (01:53:07):
I'm talking about when I'm in high school, respectfully, Like
I've been flying my whole life. Bro, it's a real fact.
YEA had that one right there, blacked out with the
black windows. My dad blacked out everything. We had the
chrome's on it.

Speaker 4 (01:53:19):
Yeah, real ship like that was. That was probably my
favorite card.

Speaker 1 (01:53:22):
You know what I mean. That's some real ship.

Speaker 6 (01:53:24):
Yeah, but fun ship. Fun ship was my Mustang. You
know how he was talking about. They used to race
through the streets. Man, when I had my Mustang. Bro,
you hit the gas literally you just put the pedal
gun boom.

Speaker 1 (01:53:34):
The hold back. What was first? Ben was high school.
I bought yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:53:41):
Paper, yeah, come on man to mom it and turned
it in and came back with a Saturn No way,
Yeah I'm dead.

Speaker 4 (01:53:50):
I was like, wow, my accurate. I had an accurate cl.

Speaker 1 (01:53:53):
That was clean. She traded that in for a man.
Now you went, I know you were tripping.

Speaker 2 (01:54:02):
But luckily I bought it was used when I bought it,
so it was, but it was like thirty grand. She
turned it in and I mean I think she got
I mean she she just traded it in straight.

Speaker 4 (01:54:10):
For us that Oh, but it's easier to maintain, like
mom Duke's breaking I had.

Speaker 1 (01:54:14):
Like one hundred thousand mile warranty and all.

Speaker 4 (01:54:17):
That shit, but you break a window on the shot.

Speaker 2 (01:54:19):
Never could have seen herself in the bands, which kind
of bothered me. But I was like, it was your car, and.

Speaker 1 (01:54:24):
Well, you know, I think the Saturn was more practical
for her.

Speaker 2 (01:54:27):
She loved that car, all right, but I saw that car.
I was like, oh shit, that's the car game my mom.
That she came back like three weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:54:35):
Man, I love that car.

Speaker 5 (01:54:38):
Christianan here is asking that terminology. What was it like
working with Alchemist on Icy Dead People?

Speaker 1 (01:54:43):
Man?

Speaker 6 (01:54:43):
Alchemist is one of my favorite producers, you know, lucky
enough to have five records with him. I See Dead
People is so cool because shout out to John Colombo.
He's a great director. He's out here in la He
actually did the one with me and ever Last as well.
But John Colombo is such a great mind that he
went to the cemetery and like he also like filmed

(01:55:06):
Mad People, like so in the song I See Dead People,
I'm telling stories about people that I'm seeing and how
they died. Right, So, one dude died in a car crash,
one person dotted aids, you know, one person had health issues.
He went and casted actors to play the people that
I said, and I didn't see it until the video
came out, and I'm like, bro, this is so crazy.

(01:55:28):
Like I wrote a song about somebody and he casted
them in, you know what I mean. So, yeah, I
see dead people as beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:55:33):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:55:33):
Shout out to ALC, shot out to John Columbo, man
legendary ship.

Speaker 1 (01:55:37):
That's what's up.

Speaker 3 (01:55:38):
And then that seems to be it so far.

Speaker 1 (01:55:40):
Word Upsalute to everybody that rocked the super chat. We
appreciate you. Thank you very much much love to all y'all,
and thank you for being here with us on The
Doctor Green Thumb Show today. Past that positive vibe around,
did we want to salute to a man Terminology for
sitting in once again. So I'm saying, smoke Box alumni,
guys man, happy to be here. Word up. Won't give

(01:56:03):
any shout outs before we wrote.

Speaker 4 (01:56:04):
Yeah, man, I got a lot going on, you know,
Shout out to my man Summit.

Speaker 1 (01:56:07):
He's in the building.

Speaker 6 (01:56:08):
We got an album drop in September twenty sixth. We
just dropped a single Friday with Met the Man. It's
going crazy. Shout out to Met the Man. The video
drops to twenty six as well with Met the Man,
so you know, we're excited about that. And I wrote
a book. It's called A Hundred Ways to Be a
Better Dad, you know what I mean. So you might
want to check that out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, check out
the website. Good Dad Gang.

Speaker 1 (01:56:28):
I need that.

Speaker 6 (01:56:29):
Shout out to Everlast for going on Joe Rogan podcasts
and telling everybody on that platform to follow Good Dad Gang.
You know, he's one of the first people that supported
me him in premiere, you know. So anyways, man yeah, man,
new album with Summit dropping the twenty six and Good
Dad Gang.

Speaker 1 (01:56:44):
Let's go. That's right, see Minus.

Speaker 8 (01:56:47):
Shout out to everyone here at the table, will be
Everlast Terminology always a pleasure, Good Sir, Cycle Lazy Trea's crew,
Don Bolton and ray Aton Drove. He's on uh the
Strong One and you for watching follow me c Minus

(01:57:09):
fan for on all social media and uh I'll probably
on Twitch in the mix later tonight, so follow me
there too and see you tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:57:17):
What a cycle easy chilling, chilling over here.

Speaker 7 (01:57:21):
Shout out everybody just hanging out with us, Big Term
for coming through, Doctor Green Thumb crew. If you're on
the I G follow me cycle lest Official, go to
the website the Cycle Last Shop dot com. And we're
about to get into the mixed Thursday mix. You know,
shout out to everybody, Big Term.

Speaker 4 (01:57:41):
You think we're gonna get into brought some spits with
me a little we get.

Speaker 1 (01:57:46):
Into a cipher right now after the show. Don't go nowhere.
We're here and you know, shout out, I see though
they hooked me up with some nice beers. It's flavors, peace.

Speaker 5 (01:57:59):
Yore your shilty in seeing Asylum, Show to Ray Morning Shot,
Film show to the Dominator, everyone go to be Real
TV two in Twitch we're gonna get into the mix
and uh, what's up everlast?

Speaker 2 (01:58:09):
Same old, same old, you know, shoutout chadri All, y'all.
Motherfucker's back there behind that curtain acting and doing weird shit.
Uh C minus Psycholas my man turn, which was a
nice surprise to see today. Be you know, saluting God
bless everybody. Get out your motherfucking house. It's good for you.

Speaker 1 (01:58:30):
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