2 MOTYS or SETH HURT AGAIN?

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Speaker 1 (00:29):
All right, all right, how do I sound?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Sound fine?

Speaker 1 (00:36):
All right? Just want to be sure. All right, people,
it is Wednesday. Welcome. Oh it is Wednesday, nine oh
six pm Central Time here in San Antonio, and welcome
to another episode the Experience. I am Drew and joining
me as always is.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Dustin from Spinebuster Teas and spine Buster Tees dot Com.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
And uh yeah, we have a wrestling pack show tonight
because we had a busy weekend down on DAH in Australia.
Friday was for Friday Night SmackDown and also the Crown
Jewel pay per view which occurred over the weekend on
Saturday as well as Raw. Then we came back to
the States in NXC. NXC is always in Florida, but

(01:23):
any but you know what I mean. And then of
course Bound for Glory and one little news tidbit would
involve some releases and I believe that's about it. But
I don't know. We haven't done this in a while,
justin Oh, what's something you want to talk about?

Speaker 2 (01:44):
I didn't prepare for the show, so I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Okay, Yeah, like I said, I just go home. Maybe
about five six minutes ago, or actually about ten minutes
ago now, so I didn't get to prepare for the show.
So I was kind of hoping you kind of lead
the reins here tonight.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, I can do that. I do have something to
talk about. It's it's not it's not wrestling related. It's
actually basketball related. The NBA preseason has started. I know
it's the preseason, but I'm happy for our Spurs. Our
Spurs are undefeated so far. Wenby's doing Wenby things. The

(02:22):
new rookie Dylan Harper, he's actually doing a really good job.
He's playing, you know good. He had a really good
game last game. I think this could be Castle's breakout year.
He might even win Most Improved, or it could be
a candidate for Most Improved. You never know. And uh,
the new big guy, Corny Barnette. He's He and Wenby

(02:47):
seem to be gelling. They look like they have really
good chemistry. And I'm enjoying it. I'm really loving it.
I'm really loving this new Spurs team so far. Where
they go in the regilar season, I would say I
can see them making the playoffs, maybe like a sixth

(03:08):
or seventh seed, if they can stay healthy. I know Fox,
he's gonna be he's gonna be missing some time, so
you'll get to see the new guy Harper, you know,
play more. Yeah. Other than that, that's kind of one
I want to talk about. It's pretty short. It's a
non wrestling related I don't know, do you have any
thoughts about the Spurs.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
That's no, just preseason I likewise hee so far. I mean,
but it preseason okay.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
And just on a side note, So last week I
brought up the possibility of doing a basketball podcast my
friend Anthony, who I've known since kindergarten. Yeah, next week,
and we don't have a date picked out picked out yet,

(03:58):
we are gonna do our best our Spurs basketball podcast.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Uh. It's gonna be called the Silver and Black Experience,
and it's not gonna be live, It's gonna be pre recorded,
and it's gonna be just once a week, you know,
preferably the end of the week, where we just talk
about the week of Spurs basketball and also the rest
of the league, some some league news, you know, some
interesting baits. But yeah, next week, look out for it.

(04:27):
Silver and Black Experience starting yours truly and my friend
Anthony so.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Doing it like like like here on Discord or like,
how y'all doing it?

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Well, it's not live as far as I know, we're
not gonna go live. It's just gonna be pre recorded.
But I'll yeah, i'll never know.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
You might get a new audience.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yea true. But yeah, that's something that doesn't hurt you know.
No you no, no, you're not wrong. I'm not opposed
to it. But it's off to talk to him about
see I feels but but yeah, that is uh, that
is the news on that. Let's get the Let's get
the show started, shall we. So the week of Wrestling

(05:12):
and Australia started on Friday with SmackDown, which was in Perth, Australia.
It was the SmackDown before Crown Jewel that too, kind
of like Crown Jewel and Raw was at seven in
the morning. Here, it's on eight in the morning if
you lived, you know, in the East. For the most part,

(05:32):
like I said, the biggest stuff out of that show
was Knockamore coming back answer sammy'se Ain's challenge and it
was a pretty big moment because we haven't seen Knockamore
in a while, we haven't heard his theme in a while,
and kind of it kind of was reminiscent of Takeover

(05:54):
from twenty sixteen with Knockamore and Sammy's Ain, which is
one of the biggest matches probably in Takeover history, and
a great debut by Knockamore, but the match ended up
in a pretty the match got thrown out essentially because
the MFT came out and you saw Toma Tonga return

(06:15):
and everyone else, and they were dressed up and I think,
correct me if I'm wrong, the the face paint they
were wearing us, the face painty they wore in like
a new Japan, right.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yes, Tom Tonga and Tuga Loa, Yes.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Okay, So it's nice seeing them back. And then later
in the night after the main event with White Six
and Street Profits who Street Profits actually came back with
their old theme. So, and that's another thing. A lot
of WWE wrestlers are pushing to either change their theme
or get their old themes back, partially due to Deaf Rebel.

(06:53):
Their contracts are expiring with w w.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
SE be going that way.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
And then the news is that ww is looking to
look for outside artists to do themes. So that that's good,
you know, because themes really do they can really make
or break somebody because not to say that there are
some good Deaf rebel songs, but the rest are just
like like, for example, like whenever I watch The Rumble,

(07:26):
when I hear some's theme, I'm like, who is this again?
Oh that's that's so and so. Oh I've really that's
their theme. So yeah, the themes really do make or
break somebody.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
But I mean I agree, and you know, dud Rubbull
like they had like thirty percent their themes were good,
the other seventy was not.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
I got on Twitter. While man, I've been off Twitter
for a little bit.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
By got on Twitter, I happened to be on Twitter,
like I was like like yesterday and and I.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Think I saw that's why I saw the news of it.
And there's some people in there. I mean, yeah, I
don't like death Rebel man. But people were like, oh.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Man, they you know, they should they should be dead instead,
you know, instead of making music.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Like eh, you know it's a.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Little bit too far, Like all right, like we don't
like their things, but man, I don't want to wish
death amond.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
People like it's not that serious. It's not.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
But like I'm very much of the ilk of like
I don't wish anything bad to happen to anyone. But yeah,
fucked on their music, But not them as people. I'm
sure they're nice people, and you know what.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
They're probably and they're probably thinking they're they're doing their best.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
They're thinking like, oh man, we made a good theme,
but like, like how dejecting that must be to them,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (08:43):
No, I get you. I don't think anyone sets out
to do a bad job, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, but it just it just didn't work.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
It just hasn't worked out for them as far as
like making good wrestling themes. But you know, then maybe
maybe they'll, you know, venture onto something else and do
a better job in another field. But but yeah, I
just don't think they just don't get or understand wrestling
in its entirety.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yeah, true, very true. Oh yeah. Going back to SmackDown,
the main event I believe them was the main event
the White Six or oh no so yeah, Damien Price
versus Alistair Black, which I believe was a less man
standing match and a good match, fun match. I I

(09:31):
mean Alistair Black being treated more like a big deal.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Is a w goat horns.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yes, I love I love the goat Horns. I shirt
A bought that shirt from U spawn Buster Tease at
Wonderland Mall of America's People and the great shirt. So
I I do love that he came out with that.
Damien Priest seems lost created. I don't really know what's

(10:05):
missing with Damien Priest, you know, he It almost seems
like whenever he left the Judgment Day, that's when it kind.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Of that that's what happened. True, very true.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
So you think so you think he's much better as
a heel, he's more interesting. Oh no, I'm agreeing with you.
When he was with the Judgment Day and they were
all heels with I mean with aside from Ria Rhea,
Ria is still oh fuck. Like, there's no doubt about that.

(10:40):
Damian I think needs people around him. And like you said,
he's much more interesting as a heel. Him being by
himself and trying to be the cool rock star guy
is just it's it's not clicking the way we think
it we thought it would. So and I and I
like Damien. I want I want it to work out
with Damien. So we'll see what works out with that.

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But like the big highlight of the match was Zelena Vega,
who's Alistair Black's wife. In reality, she came out and
aided Alistair Black. She gave him a fireball to throw
a Danian priest's face, and in the end her and
Alistair her man stood side by side. So everything is

(11:24):
Selena with Alistair, which is good because it's like, well,
it's about time. And I've always said about Zelena not
a terrible wrestler, but she's much better as a valet.
That's that's where she works better. As she works. She
worked better as a valet with Andrade and and Alistair

(11:45):
are gonna be I mean, they're already married, so you
know clearly that they're gonna work out, but like they're
gonna be fucking cool as fuck together. So I'm looking
forward to that. I don't know if you have any
closing thoughts on that.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
No, you covered it pretty thoroughly.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
But that was SmackDown, the SmackDown before Crown Jewels. So
let's add an a Crown Jewel, which was the very
next day at seven in the morning, which I watched
while I was at work. I just put it on
while I was working. Luckily it was a slow day
at Army Record pronounced it there's anyone in the chat

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room and from Australia that can correct me on that.
But a little of five matches, which again these are
these w W pavers how they usually go. You have
the show opens with Bronson Reid with Paul Haman versus
Roman Reigns in a Australian street fight, justin can you

(12:49):
tell me what made this an Australian street fight?

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Near in Australia and they used Australian weapons.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
So what Australian weapons did they use?

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Like the sports weapons like the cricket bat for one.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Okay, Like with a lot of these.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
I don't really I don't really pay attention or care
if it's a street fight, if it's a no holes
bar match.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
I don't really think that really matters. At the end
of the day, they can call it anyone. They call
it a fucking you know, a Mars street fight or whatever,
and they're not even on Mars.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Like it's it's just for branding. It's not. It's not
that deep.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
What. It's one of those things that like I try
not to make it deep, but then I somehow do
where it's like if you're gonna call out a street
fight pertaining to the city or the country that you're in.
I don't know, add some to it, you know what
I mean. It's like it's like when I when I
talked about the Damien Priests and Drew Manatch at Mania
where they had the Las Vegas street fight, but it

(14:04):
wasn't really Las Vegas themed. It was just a street fighter, right,
Like I don't know, like throw some casino suggestion for
for an Australian street fight, like I don't know, add
some weapons, like was it digeridoos? You know, the koalas

(14:24):
I don't I don't know. Yeah, is the only thing
I can think of. But I don't know if you're
gonna do something Australian with the cricket bat okay, one one?
But I don't know. That's just me, That's just that's
just me being picky as fuck.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
I mean, in Texas street fight, do we do we
usually see bull ropes in Texas street fight?

Speaker 1 (14:45):
I hope, I hope we do. That would be fun.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
I want a Texas death match. Whenever they have Texas
death matches, do we see bull ropes typically?

Speaker 1 (14:56):
I mean they should, but we don't.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
I don't know, But no one complains about that.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
I don't know, I do because I'm picky.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
In a Chicago street fight, did they use fucking pistols
and fucking knives?

Speaker 2 (15:12):
I mean, I know they can't, but you know, it's
like I don't I don't really care.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
It's just a branding. I don't really look at deeper
than that. You know, That's it.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
I know, but unfortunately I'm picky like that. But anyhow,
uh Metro twenty one minutes. Of course Roman had his
big ass entrance, Bronson had his entrance, got got of
course got a pop because he's in Australia. He's the
hometown boy.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
And you didn't get a pop. Bronton reed, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Bron Bronson regot reaction. You got people cheering from.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Yeah, reaction being out, but like a huge pop anything.
Roman was the one that got the pop.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah, not not to the extent of Roman, but Bronson
still got a pop. Not like a big pop, but a.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Pop literally not literally everybody. Most rustlers get some type
of reaction, hometown reaction, and yeah he.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Got home he did.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
He didn't get like a huge hometown reaction because he
was the heel.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
You know what I mean, right, he was He didn't
get a reaction like that.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
No, no, no, I know he didn't get a rear reaction,
but he got a reaction ban him that. This match
kind of went the way you thought it would. There
was interference, the USOS came out. Roman got mad at
the USOS for whatever reason because he's like, I can
do this all moon and Jay is getting mad at

(16:43):
Jimmy for whatever reason. Bronson got a win. I mean
think me both picked Bronson because at this point it's like,
what does Roman lose if he loses? And also it's
a it's a gimmick match, so it's more believable if
he loses because there's going to be interference. But I'm

(17:08):
happy for Bronson. I'm happy you gotta win. I have
been liking the presentation of Bronson so far, especially in
this group. And of course we'll talk about what happened
on Monday, But what do you think about this match?

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Wait, yeah, you broke up just a little bit. I
can't repeat that last part.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
What did you think about this match?

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Oh? It was good, it was good.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
There was a standard street fight, you know, Bronson picking
up the win. I didn't officially predict I predicted Roman
by said that Brosson should be the one to get
the win, but yeah, no, it was the right outcome.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Okay, agreed, and uh all right, So moving on. So
you had Stephanie Vacor, the Raw Women's World Champion, versus
Tiffany Stratton, the SmackDown Women's Champion in the Women's Crown
Jewel Championship match. That match. I was almost surprised, but

(18:23):
not really that Stephanie won the match. I I think
you picked I think I think you and me were
split on this last Wednesday because I think you picked
Tiffany and I picked Stephanie, and then the end Stephanie won,
which from the way it looks, from the way they're

(18:43):
really pushing Stephanie. And you know, I said last week
that Stephanie looks like she's been ready for the spot,
like because it's weird because like a Facebook memory popped
up where it showed Stephanie's debut in NXT last year,
and it's like she's only been in the company for
a year, and in one whole year this year, she's

(19:07):
been the Women's North American Champion, the NXT champ or
NXC Women's Champion, the Women's World Champion, and now she's
the Women's Crown Jewel Champion all in one fucking year.
It's just it's astounding. How would you consider her, like,
I guess, in WWE terms, a rookie or how would

(19:27):
you place her as far as like rankings go for
like any category?

Speaker 2 (19:34):
What do you mean.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
So like.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
The question, she's not a rookie, so I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
I mean for WWE terms, would you I guess consider
her for well, you know what rookie isn't the right word.
Let me let me rephrase that as far as like
anyone that's had a really good first year in WWE, Like,
how would you rank her.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Courted people like like like as far as like regular,
as far as like a fresh in w.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
She's she has to be. She has to be towards
the top.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, all right, because like who else like Kurt Angle,
you know he had a really big year and his
first year in w w E brock Lesner, that's another name.
Who's who's another good name?

Speaker 2 (20:25):
I mean collectively the Shield?

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah, the Shield, Okay, collectively this shield, yeah for sure.
Trying to think of who else possibly shamous, seamous, Yeah, yeah,
you know, yeah, he was, he wasn't on e c
W that long and came out to the main roster beat,
you know, and he was pushed. She was pushing before

(20:51):
he before he lost to Hunter at twenty six.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Remember that, uh del Rio He was.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, yeah, the reel's another one too as well.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
You know there's names, Yeah, definitely. So yeah, this match
was fine. I mean, I don't really think there was
anything overly spectacular about the match. I did find it
interesting how it almost seemed like Stephanie was trying to
work heel while Tiffany was trying to work a face,

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because there was that one spot where I think, I
think Stephanie wants to shake her hand and then Tiffany
slaps it away, and I don't know, I don't know.
Maybe that's just me, but overall, like, I'm not, I'm not,
I'm not. I'm obviously not mad. Who won. Would have
made more sense for Tiffany to win because she's been

(21:45):
pushed more heavily, or he pushed longer than before Stephanie
came on. Yeah, maybe I just think win for just for.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Because if.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
It's well lost, it would not have hurt her whatsoever.
I'm not saying that Tivity is hurt from this. I
just think that Tiffty needed to win more because she's
on SmackDown. She's not you know, she's not really getting
high praises right now, not because she's bad, it's just
that just because.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Of the vision around her.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
I would have really liked it to just give it
to Tiffany here, you know what I mean, because at
the end of days like it wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Hurt you know, Stephanie.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Now, I think this kind I won't say it hurts Tiffany,
but it does put a little bit of a blemish
on Tiffany.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Because Simmy's about to come up. What do you think
you know that's not go ahead?

Speaker 1 (22:38):
No, no, no, go ahead, Innis.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
I'm sorry, no, no, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
No, because you you mentioned how Tiffany's gonna is already
She's about to come up on a year as champion
because she cashed it in at the beginning of the year,
and it's like it's October, so it's like pretty much
not much as champion. I think a lot of what's
hurting Tiffany in some ways is you know, you look

(23:04):
at that SmackDown Women's division, there's really not a lot
like every feue she's had on SmackDown has been her
versus Naya, her versus Jade, her versus Nya and Jade,
and then you know, back and forth, and it's like,
I mean, I love Julia, but what has Julia been doing?
Really nothing, you know? And then he got Chelsea there,

(23:25):
who love Chelsea, but you know, what are you gonna
do with Chelsea? So I don't know like Tiffany. I
really do like Tiffany, but I feel in some ways
she's kind of but I don't think that's her fault.
I think it's booking. But I Stephanie, you know, I think,

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I mean, Stephanie's naturally good, not even saying that Tiffany's bad.
But I think for Stephanie, she probably feels more motivated
because she's on a brand that has bigger names. She
has Rhea Ripley, she has EO, she has Osca whose
name is rock Sanne, you know, and you got rock Heel,
who's kind of come into her own. So I again,

(24:10):
it was interesting to see Stephanie one, and I'm happy
Stephanie one. But I do agree with you that even
if she lost, I don't think it would have hurt
her because she's only She's still popular and over as fuck.
Tiffany and hindsight probably could have used this more, but
I don't know, we'll see, but good for Stephanie. All right.

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Next as you had undoubtedly match the night but or
match of the afternoon, morning whatever, pretty much the match
of the show I think people paid to see. And
that's John Cena versus AJ Styles. You happy, Styles come

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out in his old gear from twenty years ago in TNA.
You know, the the tight trunks and also the the
vest which and also the vests and also the little
like necklace. And I smiled when I saw that. I'm like,
oh shit, AJ's wearing that. And he obviously could still
pull it off because you know, he's been wearing like

(25:16):
long you know, long tights for the longest time that
I forgot how he looked in that, and he was
able to pull it off without looking like, you know,
goofy or anything. And then of course John Cena came
out and you know, got a you know, rock star
like reaction as you can imagine John Cena would, and
he does his usual you know, and introduction from the

(25:37):
announcer and then he gives a piece of paper to
the announcer to announce a J which maybe that was
off the cuff and AJ didn't know about it, and
you can see AJ get emotional, you know, refer to
him as mister you know, total NonStop action, the face
that runs the place AJ styles, and I thought that
was cool. Bad. This match was everything you didn't know

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it was going to be, and that's a good thing.
I usually I bitch about this kind of stuff, but
in this case, I'm like, you know what, I love this.
I love AJ Styles. John Cena is somebody that I
do respect. Haven't always been the biggest John Cena fanly
I liked them better as you know, doctor thuganomics just

(26:23):
being honest, but I do I've always respected John Cena's hustle,
on his drive and how giving he can be. And
he was very giving in this match, and as was AJ.
You know, granted AJ was the one doing eighty percent
of the work, but you know, you got to give
John credit there as well. And a lot of this
was a a concert of somebody of like an older

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band playing the greatest hits while also doing covers, and
I mean that in the nicest way possible, where you know,
you saw John Cena do a fucking a sister Abigail,
which I popped for that, and I also got choked
up for that because, you know, obviously because of Bray
and uh, you know, looking up into the sky, you know,

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saying thank you, I miss you, and the crowd even
you know, pulling up their like their cell phone lights,
which that was That was cool. And also John looked
pretty John looked like he was able to pull it
out pretty well. And then AJ you know, borrowed some
moves from I think Christopher Daniels. Johnsina was about to

(27:29):
do a six to one nine, which I'm like, tell me,
he's not going to do a six to one nine,
and then AJ clotheslines and then the fans start pooing AJ.
So I thought that was kind of funny. There's some
other moves and I'm blanking on them, so if you
remember him, please let me know. The match ends with

(27:53):
with Sina going for a choke slam. Well, he does
a choke slam and then a tomb stone and then
he turns that into a and one two three and
gets the win. So I thought that was a perfect match.
You know, you had mister w w e versus mister
Tianna that was the best way to promote it. I

(28:17):
loved it. I loved every second of it. It's if
that's anyone's match of the year, I won't disagree with you.
It's definitely. It's it's up there for my match of the.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Yearly I will say I'll done, say top three for sure, Yeah,
but for sure.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
But please tell me your thoughts justin I'm dying to know.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
So he So these were the moves overdone in this
in the match Go Crush Finale, the Accolade, the Coquina, clutch, walls, Jericho,
Andreel Wings, Sister Abigail, Scorpion, death drop, the or and
d T the r k oh, the Fate to Black.
A lot of people thought was was a dead eye.

(29:04):
Is really a fate to black for Kazarian? Sorry, Hangman,
you know this wasn't really.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
It wasn't really.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
It wasn't a Hangman tribute. I don't know why people
would have thought that, but I mean, I see why,
but I see why people would have thought that, and
people don't know why. Uh, people probably don't really realize
that cause Aarian did that move, but it wasn't attributing
Man guys, A choke slam, uh sweet cham music and

(29:32):
a tombstone. So those are all the the moves that
were used in this match. I thought this match was great.
It was a tribute to pro wrestling, right, a tribute
to their opponents. It really just really just a shout
out to a really a shout out to their to

(29:52):
these wrestlers that they probably won't have a chance to
have a match with. Yeah, I don't see seeing how
the match with Chris Jericho, I don't see uh, you know,
seeing it having a match with russev or obviously the Undertaker,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
So now I.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Thought I thought this match was was good for what
it was obviously, and and on top of that too
as well, you know, really really just a j being
to be be able to be put in this position,
you know what I mean. Meltzer said that this match
supposed happened in the entire time. I don't know about
that one, man, Like, come on, I don't really believe

(30:34):
that particular.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
You know, story or or or hypothesis that you have there,
mister Meltzer.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
But it was good, not good. Great, It was a
great match. This is gonna be one of the matches
that you're gonna remember this is the I think, out
all the scene of matches from this retirement tour, I
think this one maybe remembered the most. I mean, SOT
has four appearance has left, so we don't know for sure,
but but this is definitely going to be top two

(31:05):
or maybe even number one people's lists. So if this was,
if this was in his last match, I don't think
anyone would have complained.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
This. I mean, this would be perfect. This would be
a matter of fact, you know, because you got AJ retiring.
AJ is going to be retiring pretty soon, and you know,
in a perfect world, this would have been a nice
way to send both of you know, if they retired tomorrow,
you know that'd be a perfect like Hollywood movie ending.

(31:36):
And uh, there are they? Before going to the match,
there were two and two. So you had the match
at SummerSlam twenty sixteen, Yeah, twenty sixteen, to which AJ
one clean. By the way, I remember that match, and
I remember thinking, like, shit, AJ one clean. You had

(31:57):
there's another matchtween. I think it was right, but there
was a match in between that, but that was on
a one on one match, so I guess I'm not
gonna I'll negate that. So Romo twenty seventeen, which I
was actually there. I was there for that, and another
good match to which Sina Uh tied Rick Flair for
the for you know, be a sixteen time champion. And

(32:22):
then because they said two and two, I'm trying to remember,
I'm guessing there counting the multiman matches because there was
a match in another pay per view which was the
champion and John Cena was involved. It was like a
multiman thing and aj still won. And then there was
an elimination chamber match in twenty seventeen and that was

(32:43):
when bray Wyatt won the championship last time. So I
guess they're counting those matches.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
And this is what I this is what I got,
got Crown Jewel this past weekend. You got money in
the bank sixteen, Yeah, SummerSlam twenty sixteen, you got Rumble
twenty seventeen, and you got smacked down in twenty eighteen.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Oh fuck, okay, all right now, all right, good, thank you,
justin so uh. And then a Sino won the rubber
match over the weekend, so great feud, look, great feud
branch into perfect ending. So uh. And then of course
Sena has four matches or yeah, four more appearances which

(33:32):
are more than likely gonna be matches. You have there's
gonna be a raw in Boston, which elite is November fourth,
and then you have a raw in Massive Square Garden
which is the week after, and then you have Survivor Series,
which there's talk about who've seen them might face a

(33:53):
Survivor Series, and then of course his last sever match
which is on December thirteenth, and DC, which is gonna
be on Peacock. Uh. I guess well, I was gonna
say something. I don't really think it matters the fuck.
I was just say it anyway. So yeah, Karen Cross,
he'd put on h he put on Twitter, you know

(34:15):
last night after Matt Cardona. Hime next he that uh
pretty much he wants to see John Cena versus Matt Cardona,
and then John Cena, you know, usually puts up photos
on Instagram without any you know, context or captions, you
know whatsoever, and uh, he pretty much put up a
screenshot of Matt Cardona and NXT. So uh, the you know,

(34:39):
the talk is that Sena has more saying who his
final opponents are, so oh, justin would you be interested
in seeing John Cena? Versus Matt Cardona in one of
his final matches.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yes, I love Matt Cardona.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
I listened to the podcast every week obviously because I'm
a wrestling figure collector and I I'm a shop owner,
so I have to be on top of news for
that and here opinions on certain things, and they all
and now obviously go into what they do for wrestling
as well, so they it's like it is like eighty
percent action figures, like twenty percent about like what they're

(35:16):
doing like in the indies and stuff and like jokes
and stories and shit like that.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
However, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
I know Se has a lot pool and he probably
wants to help Cardona, and I know they're very good friends.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
I just don't know.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Like the benefit to WWE for this, because Cardona ain't
gonna be signed to a new contract with WWE.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
That's not happened.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
No, no, no, I know that, but like he's well tech is.
Let me ask you something. Is Matt Cardona signed with
TNA or is he just like on loan essentially he is?

Speaker 3 (35:56):
I think he's not, like he's he's not on the
exclusive contract. I'll say that it's not exclusive contract because
he could.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Work to c W.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
He could go to you go to AW if he
really wanted to. As far as like do you want
to bring him honor things that nature, He's he's on
a contract, but not exclusively, if that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Right, Okay, now now I get you because I know
he did the House of Glory show recently with Cross
so chance as far as like benefit goes, I just
think it'd be a good attraction match because Cardona, you know,
I said, you know, as a parents from NXT on Tuesday,

(36:34):
which was that you know, he's he worked his ass
off in the Indies to get over into you know,
to redefine herself and he did, and I wouldn't mind
seeing him in Sena. Yeah. I think it'd just be
a something for the fans, not necessarily for WWE, so
to speak. I mean, it could definitely help out Cardona.
I mean because I know Chelsea, you know, and yeah,

(36:54):
Chelsea's you know, his wife, and so she has to
say certain things and not say certain things. But like
she it's said that she thinks Matt is ready to
come back to WWE. So and again that can mean
a whole lot, that can mean nothing, but.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
I will love to see Cardona comeback. I unless it
they allow him to continue his his toy company.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
I don't see it, because his toy companies is what's making.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Him a lot of fucking money.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
Right now, he's not making he and he's making I mean,
obviously with this happening. Let's say he signs back with WW,
he's not going to be doing this no more. But
he's currently making his toy Cup is making figures of
AW wrestlers. So I don't see that happening. Number one, ball,
number two. It's not just they're making my own AW.

(37:44):
They're making things for the for Major League Baseball. They're
doing like other properties as well, Like, for example, they
didn't like like a Don Ramble action figure and are
doing like a Kurt Sloan from Kickboxer action figure. They're
doing like things like that. So I don't know if

(38:08):
WW is gonna allow him to continue that. If they
can work out a deal and do something very excusive
to do it, I'm more than sure he'll jump all
over it. But one thing he has mentioned, he really
loves and he enjoys his freedom. If he can I
operate you this way, if he works, if he if
he wants to come back to WWE.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
He's like, you know what, I don't want to.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
I don't want to be on Manton's want to be
on NXC because he lives in Orlando. I think he
will sign out a heartbeat. I think he will sign
on a heartbeat, But I'm not sure if he wants
to do that or not.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Right, No, I get you, I get you on that.
And and you know, if someone has that kind of
freedom and they're still making good money, that's like on
the same length as like WWE, if not even more.
You know, I wouldn't want to sign anywhere. But you
know we're all coming up in Madison Square Garden then
you know, you know, Zach Ryder lives yours from you know,

(39:05):
he was born around the area. It's like, can you
imagine that, Pops? When's that when Matt Clinton out like that?
That would be it would be a.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
Great pop, It would be a great moment and all
that stuff. I just don't know.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
If I don't know, I don't know anything.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
Anything's possible in wrestling, so you know, I would like
to see it, but I just don't know if w
W w W has to have something. If John Stone
was like you know what I want to wrestle.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Uh, I don't know. I want I want to wrestle
Rob Conway.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Okay, But because because we were in OVWT and you
know we have a good relationship whatever, right, Like you
think w W is.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Gonna allow that ship to happen, well, because nobody remembers
on Conway really pushing for it. I mean I think
they're gonna gonna let Sina do whatever the fuck he wants, essentially,
So I truly believe if he said, hey, I.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Can't he only has four appearances that you can't matches
with everyone, Like I.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Know, Like I'm just saying, like I can picture four.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
Now pick your four right now? Who's the four that
you want to see Seene to have in his last
four matches?

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Well, Goonther is kind of a gimme. So I can
see goon Through being the last one dom for sure,
especially with versus being San Diego. So yeah, those two
Boston for his Boston show? Who okay? So Madison Square Garden,

(40:58):
I would love Matt Cardonos. That's gonna be my choice Boston.
I would say, you know what, fuck it, I'm gonna
be bold. Camara Hayes.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Okay, Uh, that's a okay, that's left field right there.
I would love to see it, but that's left field.
So so for me, I agree with I agree with Dom,
I agree with Gunther. I will say, I will say

(41:33):
to what WWE wants to do. I'm not saying these
are the people that will want him to go up against.
I'm just saying I'm thinking the terms of what WW
will probably want to do. One name I'm thinking of
is l A.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Knight.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
That's the one name I'm thinking of right there, is
l A.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Knight.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
I don't agree with that, but I think that's the
direction that WW may want to go in.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
And the other name.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
May be Bron Breaker, maybe bron Breakers champion by that
time it is the world titles. Is a NERD world
title match. I don't know, well see what they do,
but maybe maybe that's the possibility.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
I think Breaker will be an interesting way to he
would be he'd be an interesting opponent for Sina's last
match in DC because I love Gonther, but I don't
think Goother needs the match. I think it would be
a bigger, high profile match, but I think someone like
Bron Breaker could use it more like I don't think

(42:40):
Goother really needs it. It would just be like, oh,
that that's a that's an attraction match, that that's that'd
be cool. But I think Bron needs it more in
my opinion. But yeah, some good choices. I like those.
But with this show, all right, Crowns. So the next match,

(43:02):
you had EO Sky and rear Ripley versus the Kabookie Warriors,
Oscar and Cary's Sane, who had to the unfortunate honor
of having to follow this last match again. It was
just it was a kind of, I don't want to say,
a boring match. It was kind of a you cut
fear of what was going to happen here. I would

(43:22):
have personally wanted if the Kookie Warriors won, since you're
trying to get them over and I guess re establish
them as heels, especially Osco. I think he's doing good
work as a heel. By the way, I don't really
think it hurts Rea lose. I don't want to think
it hurts Eo to lose, but I guess you want
to you want to send the crowd home happy, because

(43:43):
for the most part this seemed like a very heel
centric show, especially with you know how this show ended,
but rioneo one, which makes sense, you know whatever. But
I don't really have anything else said to this match,
what about you.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
I thought it was a very good match, very good match.
You know.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
I think I thought all four women looked gray in
this match. I mean Kyrie, I mean, I don't think
she gets no credit for what she does.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Oscar's doing gray in this heel role.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Ray Elslebar were obviously in Australia, and Eal's the best
women's wrestle in the world.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
I mean, it ended up being a really really good tag.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Match, all right. And then of course he gets to
the main which is for the Men's Crown Jewel Championship.
You have Cody Rhodes, who's the WWE champion, and then
you have Seth Freakin Rollins, who's the world headweight champion.
On raw. I didn't think I mean, obviously didn't think

(44:48):
it was a bad match. Actually thought it was a
pretty good match. These two typically have very good matches
with each other. They seem to have pretty good chemistry
from the matches I've seen for them so far. My
big problem obviously how the match ended with Seth winning

(45:09):
and also going into what with what happened on Raw,
which we'll you know, get into that obviously, but good
match overall. Why do I need to win?

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Oh? Sorry, you broke up? Say it one more time.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
No, I was saying, why did Seth need to win?

Speaker 3 (45:30):
Were you not paying attention to the story that was
being told between Seth and Paul Hammon and the situation there?

Speaker 1 (45:38):
No, Like I I was paying attention, but like especially well,
you know, I'll just jump ahead anyway, so obviously, I mean, well.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
I'll just say this, I know, I know, like you're
not like a huge like death guy right now?

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Or I mean, I mean, I won't say you're happy
that you got entered, but but that's way too far.
But no, but no.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
No I hate him. No, I don't hate Seth any
go ahead, talk.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Well, I mean, you're I'll put it to you this way.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
I don't think you're not You're like he's off to you, Okay,
I can I can take a break from him.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
You're not. I don't think you're like, what's the word
I'm looking for. I don't think.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
I don't think it's malicious. But but at the same time,
and it's it's gonna be all cheer. I could I
could take a break from Seth.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
For a little, Yeah, I mean, because we've been seeing
Seth on TV for so freaking long, and like even
if you like somebody too much of them.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Like like that's like a terrible thing.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
Like we see, we see as well, we've seen on
TV for a long time.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
But like Cody isn't as pushed as Seth. Seth has
been pushed for a long.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Seth, He's the.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Dude has been on TV for forever.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
I mean, she's getting pushed down people's strog but she's
over get it.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
But the thing, the thing, the thing, the thing about
this is is that you know, when when it comes
to set and Seth is going to be out for
a while, right, I think people are going to realize
on how much of a missing piece he's going to
be in the main event scene. He's gonna be a
it's gonna be a huge chunk missed out of the

(47:32):
main event scene for a while. He's gonna come back
in a bay faced, which is I don't think that's
not a good idea at all. But with the story
that they're telling, they were telling the story of you know,
you know, is Seth really uh the guy that is
gonna turn the cog or or the guy that's really
in charge of the vision or is it really Paul

(47:55):
Hayman And and the story was saying that Paul Hamon
was telling se, well, you know, if you don't win,
maybe maybe I should have not picked you.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Maybe I shouldn't.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
They were Roman rings. That was basically the story that
was telling. So the story was set up for Seth
to win.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Okay, I don't know. I I guess I feel differently
about it. I get I get where you're coming from,
and I get where the story's coming from. It's just
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
And for obvious reasons, I understand it.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
I oh, he's the guy, like is he?

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Definitely is? Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
For obvious reasons. What happened on Monday happened because Seth allegedly,
well not even allegedly, he was seen wearing wearing a
sling with some fans. He's gonna he's hurt. He what
did he injure? Again? I'm sorry?

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Is he?

Speaker 3 (48:53):
He did the coast to coast headbutt and he landel
on his shoulder. As soon as he land on his shoulder,
and I saw him clutching his or I was like, oh, well,
he fucked he fucked his shoulder up.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
I didn't know it was that bad, but he fucked
his shoulder up.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Yeah, which when I when when I saw him do that,
I'm like, fuck that. You you shouldn't have done that, Seth.
But and this is before I knew he was hurt.
But so he's he's more than he's more than likely
going to be out for some time. And uh no,
this isn't going to be a work like before. He's

(49:27):
actually going to be out, like out out. I mean
he could even he might even miss WrestleMania. Yeah, one
of the way it looks. But again, I didn't think
the match was bad. I actually thought it was really good.
It's just I don't know the presentation. I would say,
you know what, the presentation on Cody hasn't been as strong,

(49:51):
and I don't think that's his fault. I just think,
you know, r J has that has that you know
name from you know Captain Savaho, Like he tries to
be too much of the nice guy, and he also
tries to be too much of an actor when cutting
a promo. The last time he was interesting was you know,
against Kevin Owens. Like that was the last time he

(50:12):
was actually interesting Seth, I will I will say this
is probably the most human I've seen him in this
feud with with Cody, because it feels real. It makes sense.
You have a story that revolves around Seth wanting to

(50:33):
beat Cody and is driving him nuts. But I don't know.
I guess I feel differently. I guess maybe I just
I just think Cody could have used the win and
you know the vision, we're just gonna beat his ass anyway.
But I guess. But like I said, Frobby Cody.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
I don't think he needed the wind or anything.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
He won it last year, so I don't understand why,
you know, But regarding I mean, at the end of
the day, the at the day, the match was really good,
but now it's the match is pointless because of the injury.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
So it doesn't matter to me. At this point, didn't
really matter who.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Won, who lose, so you know whatever, because the match
is pointless and the story of the story is dead.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
So I mean, when you think about it, a storylines
that have been going on before the show had been
pointless because you had l a Knight who had been
wonning a world title match, against Seth, and then you
have CM punk who wants his title back, and then
you have jay Usso who wants his title back, but

(51:33):
he's like, they're ever gonna make a world champion again.
And then he has this you know thing going on
with Roman Reigns and Jimmy.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
That's a conversation.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Yeah, but I guess the segues into brawl. I guess
before that, how would you rate Crown Jewel?

Speaker 2 (51:53):
I give it.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
I give it a nice eight. I thought it was
an eight and a half. I'll say eight though a ten.
That was a Vegas show.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Yeah, same same here. Even ESPN they gave it a b.
They said it was much better than Russell Palous So
uh yeah, uh sah. It's segues in the raw, which
was also in Perth, Australia, which was also at seven
in the morning. So yeah, let's just talk about the
you know, the elephant in the room with that match,

(52:22):
so or with that show. So the main event ended
up being a seam punk Ers is La Night versus
jay Uso to determine who would face Seth Rollins for
the World Heavyweight Championship, which is supposed to be keyword
supposed to be at a Saturay Night's main event November first,

(52:43):
which is gonna be in Utah, and uh Seth Rawllins
came out and celebrated and you know, did his usual
shtick blah blah blah, and it's it's I don't know.
He was kinda be weird. Yeah, I know, weirder than usual,
but like he was like telling, uh the vision and
you know, the birth of my child, you know, uh

(53:04):
me getting married to my wife, and then you guys,
you know, the sky's the limit, you know pretty much.
And of course the main event you had seem Punk
and Ellie Knight and Jaus so like I mentioned to
which CM Punk won, which I love seem Punk, but
it's like storyline. Purpose wise, I would have wanted l A.
Knight toWin just so he can get his title match,

(53:25):
but obviously.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
This point, I mean, at this point, yeah no, yes,
well well well let's let's let's stop. Let's rewind either
players Mpunk or maybe possibly brown Breaker, who might may
end up being champion. Right, I think a lot of

(53:49):
things have changed. They have to scramble because they didn't
announce this uh no more containers match last week. I
don't think I think it was just a match that
was announced the day of the show. If I'm wrong,
someone tell me. But I believe that was the case.
So they're scrambling for an answer to this Seth rawling situation.

(54:14):
So and and you know what too, It's like, this
screws up a lot of things. It only doesn't screw
up because the Vision storyline, because they weren't supposed to
wak up until next year, sometime next year now, number one,
basso number two. This screws up war Games, come fuck completely.

(54:36):
It screws war Games all.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
The way up.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
Because I was imagining it was gonna be the Vision
versus a combination of like Jay Uso Roman.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
La Knight, you know what I mean. I was imagining
it was gonna be that. So this screwed everything up.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
So with this match that happened, yeah you know, oh
you know, Sampom probably didn't it, which I which in theory, yes,
if Seth was the champion, But also the same time
as well as like what else, who else would you
have in this situation too? To help sell these tickets
to Saturday Nights May event and to you know, sell
it to the folks who want to watch on NBC

(55:18):
or not NBC, but Peacock now no.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
At the time that my thought process was Okay, love Punk,
but why can't Night you get the win? And then
when I found out what was actually going on, I went, oh,
that makes sense because Punk is punk, he's a draw,
he's you know, he's gonna sell you tickets and love
l A Knight that guy. And from the way it looks, well,

(55:42):
you know, let's just jump ahead. So Punk wins, and
then afterwards the vision comes in and beats up Punk,
and then you know they're celebrating, and then Seth is telling,
you know, pray get them out of my ring, and
the cam panning out almost as if someone's gonna come

(56:03):
out or something's gonna happen, and you see the credits
pop you know, uh pilot from the bottom you see
Paulovec and Lea fitting and I'm like, okay, so or
are they gonna do something or what's going on? Because
the show is about to end. And then you see
bron Breaker, which I there so like, I'll watch like

(56:26):
twitch streamers that react to the show just to kind
of see what their reactions are and is my friend?
I think it's my friend Devin might have might have
been him who reacts to the shows, and he that
bron Breaker looked upset like, he looked like he was
pissed off. And so you see bron Breaker get into

(56:49):
the corner and stare like into the corner, almost as
if he's about to go after someone. And then when
Seth turns around, he spears a shit out of Seth
and that I pop because I again, obviously I didn't
expect that because I was so into the moment of like,
you know, what's going on as a show about to end.
And then he gets in Bronson reads face and says

(57:11):
are you going to join me? Or join him? And
then read grabs Seth and does a tsunami, and then
you know, Bronson gets in Paul Hayman's face and Paul
Hayman shocked quote unquote, and you know pretty much tells
Paul Hayman, your are the with us? Are against us?
And then Paul Bronson in Bron's hands while Braun, you know,

(57:32):
Breaker has the World eavyweight championship. So to kind of
go piggyback off what you said earlier, that kind of
looks like where they're going is that Broun is they're
gonna put the title on Braun, which I'm happy because
I love Braun. I think Broun's been doing a great
job getting himself over that. That's kind of where I'm stalling,

(57:57):
is that, do you really hotcht the world title on Braun?
That's my thing, my my look.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
I think he'll I think he'll hold the towel fine
and he'll get over by I. I'm just saying, temper like,
let's really think about this first. Now, if they do
a twhere now this is the direction that they may
go and they may put this how on Braun? Make
them world champion? If sess ready by Mania? Have him

(58:31):
been brought at Mania? M But I don't know. I
don't know, if I I don't know. I don't want
to see that because it was to be South versus
like in Roman.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
Well, well, for a while looked like it was gonna
be Seth and Sammy, but I think I don't think
they're gonna be.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
No, I've been off the Sami train for like the
last couple of months.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
I don't see that happening now.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
I may be wrong, but I've been off of this
since he won there kind of championship, US championship, Oh,
US championship.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
Yeah, I'm sorry, US Championship.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
But yeah, I think everybody's been off the CMI train,
you know, for a while. But shit, at this point,
it's like the right Survivor Series is well, I'm not
necessarily fucked, but like they're obviously still getting on of
the match, but like at this point, it's like, who,
what's gonna be your Survivor Series match? Like what is it?
So again, I don't know. I I would think they

(59:35):
would go with the safe bet and put the title
on Punk because I just I can't see them hot
shotting Braun into that spot because I love Braun, but
he's not ready. He's he's still a little green. He'll
has some greenness to him.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
I'll think he's green, but I I just don't think
he has that full experience to have to carry the
World championship.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Him, I think him six months.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Yeah, like I think him him obviously working a program
with see him Punk is gonna do him wonders but
there's no doubt about that. But yeah, I kind of
in some ways, I hope they don't shot a title
on him, just to get him over like he like,
I don't know, And they've done that before with guys
in the past, where they put a title on them

(01:00:32):
to get him over, and Bron's over, but he's he's
not ready. In my opinion, I think they're gonna go
to me. I think it's better go with the safer
bet and just put the title on Punk. But I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
We'll see where does Punk go next.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
As far as like like if he wins the world
title again, It's one of those things like I don't know,
because you know, Seth Hurt kind of puts a foil
on things. I don't do a feud with with Night,
I haven't done that yet. Maybe do a feud with Jay.

(01:01:13):
I don't know. It's rough, it's it's definitely gonna be
interesting to see. We're overrom here. And then there's the
possibility of Obafemi coming to the main roster make some
call ups. Oh yeah, definitely. I think this is going
to be the you're gonna see more guys debut. I mean,

(01:01:35):
Dragon Off is going to come back pretty soon. You
got Chris Jericho possibly at this point, he's coming back
to w w E. There's I think at this point,
he's coming back. It's going to be interesting to see
what they do in the next coming months. So what
do you think, what do you think is gonna happen?

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
Yeah, all right, but as far as far as the
restaur all, the restaurant was actually pretty good. It wasn't
a bad show. You had Dominic Masterira versus Penta and
uh as usual. That was a great match. Dom is

(01:02:19):
really at the top of his game. Pentas over like Rover,
people love Penta. I love how Russa is still involved
in this. I love Russov just shiit talking Dom calling
a little baby boy, and uh, Dom pretty much wrestling
like his dad, not Ray, you know, Eddie Guerrero and
uh there was a nice spot in the match where

(01:02:41):
he was it the hammer for the ring or for
the ring bell and hits Penta with it and does
the six one nine the frog splash and then hides
the bell like in his boots. So I thought that
was perfect. I think Dom is doing great work. I

(01:03:02):
hope you don't take that title off of him anytime soon,
because doing great ship. He's also somebody that you know
with seth out, he can be propelled and not necessarily. Well,
yeah to the main events scene to work with someone
like punk like that, that'd be interesting to do a
program with with a punk and dom so but yeah,

(01:03:26):
what do you think about the domin Penta match?

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Standard match? Very good? All right?

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
Next as you had real Ripley versus Cary say, uh,
what led to this was Cary saying was overly apologetic
to Oscar for letting her down, and then Oscar slapped Cary, saying,
which actually like jumped out of my seat for I'm
like the fuck like just abuse Kyrie. I shouldn't be
laughing about that, by the way, But Kyrie says, you know,

(01:03:58):
I'll I'll go after Rhea. So so those two had
a match. It was it was a pretty good match.
You know, Kyrie was working a lot more aggressively, uh
to one you know spoilers, after which the Heels ended
up gaining the upper hand, uh taking down Rhea and
I and EO, and Oscar seemed to be happy with

(01:04:21):
Kyrie with helping her takedown Ria and EO. So uh, yeah,
the Heels ended up leaving Australia taking down taking down
Yeah cool, Yeah Bronson read versus Jimmy USO uh. Jimmy
USO and Jay were arguing in the back and Jimmy
was telling Jay listen, I don't need you just stay
back here and what you're gonna call it? Yeah, Bronson

(01:04:47):
won the match, as we all expected. Afterwards, Braun and
Braun beat down j Jimmy when Jay came out to
make the save and then Braun ended up spearing Jay. Anyway,
so there's that. You had Bailey and Lyra Valkyria who
were coming out matching, were matching shirts, doing a matching

(01:05:08):
entrance versus Roxanne Petees and Roque Roquel Rodriguez. I thought
this was a fun tag match. I'm a so far
I'm digging crazy Bailey. I like it. You know, Bailey's
working a more aggressive style, and I don't think I've
ever worked I don't think I've ever seen a work
of style like that, so she seems a little bit
more inspired, and I thought it was kind of funny

(01:05:30):
how Lyra had to slap Bailey across the face to
get her to be crazy, and then she just ended
up beating the ship everybody and then she got the
win for her team, So I thought that was pretty cool.
Then he had Stephanie Vacor come out to talking about
you know, her win on Saturday, and then Roquel and

(01:05:52):
Roxanne came out and just talked a little bit of shit,
and Roxanne saying, you know, I beat Io. I'm the
last one actually beat Ill, so I should get a
world title match. So it looks like Stephanie and Roxanne
are gonna be working a program together, which I'm happy
about because that would be great. That'd be great. I'd
be a great program with the How do you feel

(01:06:12):
about that?

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
No, no, get get too young. I don't want to
say the Stepan. I mean, she's already up to the
top of the nine, but up and coming.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
When his wrestlers and uh youah put me in a program,
I think they'll be It's it's good for both of them.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Obviously, very good first program for Stepan.

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
They're not as far as in ring so.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
So yeah, but that'd be a great match. And the
main event happened and we talked about that. So that
was RAW pretty good Raw. So NX is coming up next,
but we forgot to talk about Bound for Glory, so's
talking about bun for Glory real quick. That happened on Sunday. Yeah, Sunday,

(01:06:59):
October twelve in Lowell, Massachusetts in the Sanga Center. And
if I'm saying that wrong, I'm sorry. Lah. You had
a pre show match which I didn't watch. Well, I
think I caught literally the end of it. You had
the Inspiration defending the TNA Knockouts Tag Team Championships against
the Elegance Brand Inspiration. Did you watch Bound for Glory?

(01:07:24):
I did, okay? And then the first match he had Steve.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Macklin, I actually actually ordered it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Oh yeah, you ordered the pay per view? Nice ye?
Next as you had Steve Macklin versus Frankie Kazarian for
the International Championship, the TNA International Championship. Kind of the
match wasn't bad. It was okay. I mean it wasn't
really anything I was really particularly interested. I mean, I'll

(01:07:58):
say this about the pay per view. You they knew
how to pace the show and where to put everything
on the card, and they knew people were gonna care
more matches. And there's no disrespect of Steve Macklin or Kazarian.
It's just I think they knew what people wanted to see,
so I'll give them credit for that. But uh, this

(01:08:21):
was this was a match. That's that's the that's I
put it. It was a match, wasn't terrible particularly exciting,
but it was a match that it happened. Steve Macklin
is the new International champion, So, uh, what'd you think?

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
I thought it was a fine match. It wasn't like,
to your point, was anything like great or anything like that.
But Macklyn winning was the right decision for you know,
for his spot in the company, you know, former world champion,
so you know, I thought I thought it was the
right sit what right outcome?

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
Yes, sir, all right. Next, as you have Tesla Blanchard
with Victoria Crawford, who was uh the Alicia Fox defeeding
gam Miller, which I I had to remember who gam
Miller was. She was the announcer that Tesla blancherd beat
up and then got suspended. So yeah, again it was

(01:09:21):
it was a lot of the match was Tesla Blanchard
not taking her seriously because she's not really a wrestler,
and then shea doing some moves and then Tesla getting
the win because yeah, I guess again, like I mentioned,
they they the TNA knew how to put these matches

(01:09:44):
together because they knew what people were gonna like more
and be more interested in But uh, thoughts on this match.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
I mean it wasn't fantastic. It wasn't bad. It wasn't bad,
but it wasn't like I mean, there was Honestly I
could have done.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
Without his match. To be honest, like I said, it
wasn't a bad match. It wasn't there what I just
could have done without it?

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
All right? Twenty two person intergender claw your shot Gauntlet.
Let's see if I have the participants I do. You
had Lee yan Lee, you had Mara Sade, you had
Ryan Nemeth, Nick Nemeth, Cedric, Alexander, sign A, J Francis,

(01:10:32):
Travis Williams, b d E. Who's b d E? Because
people are making a big deal about him.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
He is a YouTuber, which who I don't like. I'll
just say that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
Like what like what does he do?

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
What does he talk about?

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
He's a U two K content creator.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
Okay, I had no clue who he was because I
remember I think I saw Solomon saw a Monster talk
about him. I'm like mud, you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
I mean he's very popular, I will say that, and
he has a fan base.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
I personally just don't like him, So okay.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
Yeah, the Rascals, Myyroon Reed, Trey mcguel and Zachary Wentz
come out. We'll get into releases pretty soon. Danny Luna,
Eric Young, Jake Something, Rosemary the Home Turn. I don't know.
I get a kick out that song for some reason,
don't know why. Zach Clayton, Frankie Kazarian, Santino Morella who

(01:11:43):
actually apparently I think he broke his record for the
shortest time in a battle Royal. So uh, Matt Cardona
and mans Warner and and the winners of this match
were Matt Cardona or not Matt Cardona, Frankie Cary, Nick Deamith,
which the crowd actually booed. That was a fucking terrible

(01:12:04):
decision to have two guys win instead of just one guy.
But I don't know, what did you think about that match?

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
I mean, I like to see Darro's like this, especially
when it's like Inagender. It makes it a little bit more fun.
I would just have one person would have won though, personally,
but maybe there's something bigger than this that's gonna happen
that we don't know about yet.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
So you know.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
Next as you have for the TNA Knockouts World Championship
Kilanie Jordan versus Indy Hartwell, this is an okay match.
It wasn't terrible. I like, I like Kilanie Indie' I'm
I don't know India's I'm still not sold on I

(01:12:55):
just I don't. I don't see what other people are saying.
Person just still think she's wrestling with same But I
thought this was a match. This is not a terrible match.
I'm not even gonna say the same thing about this
match that I've said about other matches on the show.
It was what it was. Kilanie winning is not predictable.

(01:13:16):
I think I know you picked Indy, which I can
see why. It would probably would have made more sense.
But you know, there's really nobody else on the show.
As a matter of fact. It's it's weird to think
about there's really nobody else on TNA's current women's roster
that I think is interesting enough to be the women's champion,
except for maybe Tessa. But they're not bringing Tessa into WWE.

(01:13:40):
I don't think they're touching it with the ten football.
Kilanie winning was kind of the way to go, and
you kind of see that coming. But do you have
any thoughts on that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
I disagree Wholeheartedy, the whole story was of NXT nx
T you know, running through TNA, and we got when
we got the biggest one, you know, you know st
Town's the new TNA Worldwey Champion. They should just put
the title on on Indy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
And just figure it out.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
It's it's it's stupid that you're gonna keep the title
on Kolana and pretend that on a diehard.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
Now like this fucking retarded, it's stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
You're you're a contract to w W wrestler like it's
tardy now saying that KLi deserves because I love Klan,
he hasn't just the decision making of this. You can
still have Indy go up against you know, the NXC
women's roster and defend against them.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:14:43):
But but to me, to me, this is to be
because I mean, you still got like other women there,
uh in the in the Nightcouts division, you still got
the you still got other women there in the Nightcout's
division that you can that you can, you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
Lies you guy, you know Ziely obviously Andy.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
Heartwell, Jody Threat's there, Kelly, Kelly's there.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
You know, you got names you can use, you know,
but I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
Yeah, well we'll see. Next to the other ten person
Interjender Hardcore War, you had the System Moos, Alisha Edwards,
Brian Myers and Eddie Edwards and JD c versus the
order for Mussafa Lee, Tosh Steele especially is in zero,
Jason Hotch and John Skuyler. I'll be honest, it's kind

(01:15:43):
of this match because I was, you know, preparing something
for dinner, so I saw bits and pieces as the match. Again, obviously,
I know the System one and Moose was kind of
like the big I guess the big reason why they won.
So you're gonna have to like fill in some gaps
for me. But yeah, that match, that was any other boards.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
We just skip it if you didn't see it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
But uh, I guess, quick thoughts, what did you think
about it?

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
That was a really good hard.

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
All right? All right?

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
Next as he had I think the match most people
wanted to see. That was on everyone's radar. You had
Leon Slater, who's the TNA exhivision versus Javon Evans previous
reasons is on everyone's radar. I thought this was fun.
It was a fun match. I don't know if I'll
call it a great match personally for me, but I

(01:16:37):
like Javon Evans Leon Slater. I've only seen a little
bit of him, but from what I've seen, you know,
he's obviously very impressive. He's very young. Him and Javon,
I I like the I like the idea of them
working together and just being just being best friends and
just you know, being two young guys talking shit to
each other. And uh, this match did a lot. It

(01:17:03):
was basically the quintessential. Like if you love modern wrestling,
if you love flips, it love video game style. I
don't mean that in a bad way, honestly, I don't.
Then this is your match. And like I said, I
had fun, even though you know, again me being me,
me being picky about stuff like this, I had fun.
I had phone this match. My whole thing was in

(01:17:25):
I'm thinking, like, Okay, is Javon really gonna win the
exhibition title? Is Slater you know, going to beat Javon
because I can't really see either happening, because you know,
jud they you know ww you know covets and hold Javon,

(01:17:46):
you know, near and dear to their hearts and Leon
Slater is like, you know, one of the biggest guys,
and well, yeah, one of I guess, one of the
biggest attractions you know going on in TNA. So that
was kind of my thing of like houses match can end.
Guy was kind of worried a little bit, and it
had a time limit draw, which I'm like, oh wait,
TNA does time limit draws? Be honest, I like time

(01:18:11):
limit draws because it gives the match more meaning and
it makes people work with a sense of urgency. So
I like the fact that it ended on time limit
draw and they decided to give them, you know, more time,
and then the lights went out and fucking Dark State
came did things, which yeah, I just RJ to his

(01:18:42):
credit and I'll agree with what to say about it.
He kind of just what it said what I said,
which is like, they're not beating, they're not gonna have
Javon Evans lose, and they're gonna absolutely so they had
to think of something to do. I just don't get
why they didn't just with the time limit draw a bit,
which yeah, that would have made people mad, but that

(01:19:04):
would have made more sense instead of having Dark sticking
out and get booed, which the whole crowd was chanting,
fuck these guys.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
But I mean, when't that be the reaction that you
wants to heel?

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
Yes, but I think I don't even think it was
like fuck these guys their heels. I think they're I
think honestly the crowd was like, fuck these guys, like
we don't want them on our TV, Like get them
the fuck away from here. But anyways, what are you
thinking about?

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
I don't like that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
Yeah, but anyways, thoughts on the match.

Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
This is my best match of the year for any
male wrestlers.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
It was incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
This is the reason why you let two young guys
go out there and just wrestle. They told a story,
they did amazing counters, amazing risk, They had the crowd
the palm of their hand. See, the athleticism is second

(01:20:14):
to none. And this is everything that I that I
hope for this match to be and I want to
see these guys going against each other again this and
potentially it could be a potential a wrestle Minia main event.
Can you imagine them, you know, five six years from now,
you know, in a wrestle maa main event situation, A right,
it doesn't have to be a movement, but at least

(01:20:35):
a big match at wrestle Menia made for their kind
of a title, right something. These guys were fucking tremendous. Yes,
the ending sucked, Yes, the ending was stupid. Whoever, Right,
Even despite that, I still think this is the best
match of the.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
Year between two male wrestlers. Unbelievable match. Unbelievable match. Yeah,
two match of the year candidates two days in a row.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
That is.

Speaker 3 (01:21:04):
That is great, That's fantastic. I love that age and
Sena is a match of the year candidate. I'll possibly
have that in my top three, right and this is
my my match of the year as far as male
talent's concerned. So I have this at number two right now.
So this fantastic match. Loved it, loved everything about it

(01:21:26):
is pro wrestling, is modern pro wrestling in a sense,
and it's great.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
I mean, these guys, these guys are the now, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:21:38):
They are the now. These guys should be winning world
titles now, not in seven years whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
Now. These guys are fucking fantastic. Yeah, I think, Hello,

(01:22:20):
can anyone hear me? Can you hear me?

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
No? I can hear you. Just fine, It's just I'm
I don't know what my problem is. Uh, anyone in
the chat? How I sound doth normal?

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
Yeah? I think we're there, all.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
Right, says my audio sounds good again? All right, fuck
Jesus Christ Christ on a cracker. Anyways, all right, so
take two Now we got to restart the show. But no,
what I was saying, if anyone can hear me, is
I can stop yelling. It's funny how both matches represented

(01:22:58):
the changing of the guard. You know, you had Sena
and aj represent the past and they still a great match.
And then he had Slater and Evans you know, represent
you know, the future, and they had and they had
a great match that everyone loved. So again, great great
weekend for wrestling in general. So uh right, we'll get

(01:23:20):
to this is gonna be fun to edit. By the way,
speaking of the past, you have the Hardys and Jeff Hardy,
who are the TNA and NXT Tag Team champions, versus
the Dudley's or Team three D, Bully Ray and Devon
in a tables match, and this was being built as

(01:23:43):
Team three d's last ever match. So I was surprised. Well,
I guess I shouldn't say a surprise for the Hardys
because they still work at a pretty you know, high pace,
so to speak. I guess I was more surprised for
the Dudleys because they were they were bumping out there,

(01:24:05):
like I haven't seen him bump in a while. And
even Jeff recreated his famous Royal Rumble swanton dive onto
the Dudleys on a table, to which he took out
Devon first, So yeah, he did the swanton on Devon,
and then later on, I'll the Hardys have a bubbare

(01:24:28):
cornered and they kind of I guess they kind of
recreate the spot with Sean Michaels and Rick Rick Flair
where they do the I'm sorry, I Love you bit,
but it's uh, you know, Bubba Ray turning around going well,
I guess it's the end, and Matt and Jeff throw
Bubba through a table and that's how they won the match.

(01:24:50):
And then afterwards they shake hands and hug and the
Dudley's actually take off their boots, which is traditional and wrestling,
take off your boots and leave them in the ring
and give them to the Hardys, and then the match
ends with all four men hugging and shaking hands. And

(01:25:11):
it was a pretty emotional moment obviously, because you know,
these are guys that we grew up with. I grew
up with these guys. You know, are these guys redefine
tag team wrestling. So it's a pretty emotional moment. But
what'd you think about the match?

Speaker 3 (01:25:31):
It was a great send off for the Dudleys, you know,
taking the boots off and that that symbolism. I mean,
I think that's very Italian. Seems like Bubba is not
wrestling again. There's just what it means. I think Bubba's
official retired as well. So but yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
That was good. I thought it was good for it was.

Speaker 1 (01:26:01):
And then he had the main event, which was for
the TNA World Championship. Yeh, Trick Williams as the champion
versus Mike Santana. And again it was iper on this
match for obvious reasons, and I thought both men pulled
it off. I thought it was a really really good match.

(01:26:23):
There was, you know, the spot outside of the ring
where Trick is getting in Mike Santana's daughter's face and
his daughter actually slaps Trick, which again to her credit,
she's a kid. So I guess you can't really expect,
you know, her to give a really good work slap,
but she slapped Trick and then Trick sold it and
then went back into the ring. Santana bled, so it

(01:26:47):
added more to the match, and I thought there was
some good false finishes. There was even the lawyer, you know,
Trick Williams's lawyer, and you know Mike san Tanna beat
him up, and Uh, in the end, you know, Santana
got the win as he should have. He beat him.
He beat Trick Williams to become the TNA World Champion.

(01:27:09):
And I'm not gonna lie. I choked up a little
bit because of just how far my d'antanna has come.
And you know in the ring he celebrates with his
daughter and it means a lot because you know, Santana,
he's been through so much in his career. He started

(01:27:29):
out for the part as the tag team guy and
then went to a w and what happened, you know,
happened there and he decided to bet on himself and
being a single star and it paid off and now
he's the TNA World Champion. What are your thoughts on.

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
That very much deserved?

Speaker 3 (01:27:51):
Uh, he took a bet On himself left a w
came to TNA and really just really really made it
into his own So very very happy for a must
reserve and and and S threw.

Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
It up for once.

Speaker 3 (01:28:08):
So they absolutely the right decision and this is the
right guy to carry your brand through next year.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
All right, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:28:19):
Time for glory overall. How would you rate the show?

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
Uh, seven out of ten? Good show?

Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
Yeah, say about the same very good show you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
Have, you have you know match they are in there,
you know candidates, so oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
He had a big moment you know with the Dead
Lea's and the Heartys with the Dead Lea's retiring, so
that was a big moment. We're kind of going over time.
So n x T was pre taped on Tuesday, so
you know, the big moment coming out of there was
Matt Cardona, uh wrestling on the show and wrestling Josh

(01:28:59):
Briggs any law, which I thought was pretty pretty bold.
You know, they want to make Josh Briggs a thing,
so cool. And then Taan Paxley won a Battle Royal
to face j C. Jane for the NXT Women's Championship
at Halloween Havoc. So good good for her because I

(01:29:19):
love Tatum. I'm a big fan of Tatum. I don't
think she'll win, but it's a good moment for her,
so I was happy when she won. But that's I mean,
do you have any closing thoughts on NXT? Nah?

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
No, you pretty much covered it, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:29:41):
I guess we can close the show out with some
releases that happen over the weekend on NXT. I have
him right here, the big The big name is Wesley,
which I was a little bummed out by because I've
been very high on Wesley. I think you like Wesley
as well. Well. I don't know if he's been hurt

(01:30:05):
or if they just decided just playing give up on
or maybe he was mutual. I don't know, but I
was bummed out also because you know, I heard the
news about the Rascals contrast expiring, so I was thinking, like, oh,
could there be a Rascals or union in NXT? And
I mean I think there still could be one, just
not an NXT. But yeah, Wesley, that that kind of

(01:30:29):
that kind of broke my heart a little bit because
you know Wes, you know, when his partner got fired,
like that could have been a make or break situation
and you know, usually when TAD teams get split up.
Not everyone can be a Sean Michaels and everyone can
be a Jeff Hardy or an Edge or Christian. In

(01:30:50):
this case, you know, Wesley ended up becoming a really
good over babyface, you know, having really good matches on
the on the show, and you know he was you know,
people will consider him the greatest North American champion of
all time and some might agree. And I think when

(01:31:10):
he became a heel that's when it kind of went
downhill a little bit, because I just I don't think
people bought Wesley as a heel. It's not too much
like a nice guy playing a playing a bad guy role.
And man, I don't know where he's been lately. Yeah
he's gone sucks, but you know, like I can see

(01:31:34):
him going back to TNA reforming the Rascals. But uh,
how do you feel about Wesley getting getting released?

Speaker 3 (01:31:43):
I don't want to see anyone fire let go, especially
it's very talented wrestle, like like Wesley. He deserves to
be n X team and I'm bummed that he I'm

(01:32:06):
bummed that he gotta let go. But when he turned heel,
I I won't say that was the beginning of the end,
but it was the beginning to end for him. Unfortunately,
they put the guy on fucking where they end up
puttingm like on like they put him on TNA.

Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
I think they even put.

Speaker 3 (01:32:25):
These guys on Evolve like that's that that's the beginning
of the end right there. So he's gonna he's gonna
do well wherever he goes. He bet TNA for all
we know, you know, but very very bummed. Hopefully he
bounces back on this feat.

Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
Yeah, of course, I think he'll do well. Other names
he had Stevie Turner.

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
We lost to Andrew I lost you.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
I always when they released people that do things like
that's not even to say like Stevie Turner was gonna
light the world on fire, but like she was, she
at least had a role on television at least. But
I don't know, we'll see Lance. I don't know why,
which was kind of weird because he had signed with
the company for a year and didn't do anything and

(01:33:24):
then they released it anyway. Again, I don't wanna laugh
at it, but it's just it's one of those things
that's just like you had this guy on contract for
a year, and didn't do anything. But I don't know
thoughts on that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
I mean, it's unfortunate, but you know, hopefully.

Speaker 3 (01:33:45):
These guys find work and hopefully they are able to
uh you know, get back get back on their feet.

Speaker 1 (01:33:56):
True. Gen Tala, who was I think she was the tall,
muscular Asian chick. Yeah, she got let go as well.
Dracco Knox. Who's that Draco Knox? Do you know who
that is?

Speaker 2 (01:34:18):
I don't know, but I don't know. Do you know
who he is?

Speaker 1 (01:34:23):
Like, I don't know, Uh, Draco and Knox.

Speaker 2 (01:34:28):
It's a good name. I like the name.

Speaker 1 (01:34:31):
Draco Knox.

Speaker 2 (01:34:35):
I mean, I don't think it's important.

Speaker 1 (01:34:38):
No, yeah, uh yeah, I can see why they didn't
they really Yeah. No, I don't mean it. Bragg On
the guy, uh Hayes Jamison, Hayes Jamison.

Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
He I mean just.

Speaker 3 (01:34:56):
Because have no importance to w you whatsoever. So I
just hope that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
Hampton go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:35:14):
No, I was just I was gonna say, I just
hope all these names they they get back on their feet.

Speaker 2 (01:35:19):
Hopefully they quit wrestling. And well, no, I think I
think you're cutting.

Speaker 3 (01:35:25):
I think you're on audio delay, Okay, but I I
would just say that I hope that they get back
on their feet, hope they don't quit wrestling, and hopefully
they are you know that they end up going.

Speaker 2 (01:35:39):
Somewhere and becoming a name. I really hope. So yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:35:42):
I mean a lot of these guys they end up
getting released and just in Queen Wrestling, some those guys
got talent. This price gotta go to other places to
to really uh show their talents, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:35:57):
Biden bj Ray who was on an LFG. He was
kind of a controversial name because he would get into
fights quote unquote with the trainers and he put on
his Instagram at Tony Kahan pretty much like, hey call
me so again. I don't I've never seen the guys
like I really have nothing to add to that other people.

(01:36:21):
Kylie Ray, he's at least while after it's fucked up.
She got released after she announced that she was pregnant.
So that's I I.

Speaker 3 (01:36:33):
Really I really don't get that there, Like, like, what
does she what does she do to jove to get released?

Speaker 2 (01:36:42):
She was a champion for in evall.

Speaker 1 (01:36:49):
I got nothing. I can't that's not even something I
can try to justify, Like I'm like, that's that's that's weird.
Unless it was like a mutual thing, but I can't imagine.
And Kyle is like, hey, I'm pregnant, by the way,
release me, so that that's that's weird.

Speaker 2 (01:37:04):
I'm pretty wanted to get that.

Speaker 3 (01:37:06):
I'm pretty sure she wanted to get money while she
was pregnant. I wouldn't know why she wanted to get
get released and not get paid.

Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
No, I'm agreeing with you. I still think it's fucking weird. Lastly, Uh,
Ridge Holland announced that WWE wont not be renewing his contract,
and UH pretty much just put on that. You know,
he's currently hurt and ww is not going to renew

(01:37:36):
it anyway while he has a family of five to
take care of, which again is fucked up in hindsight
when you think about it. My biggest issue with this
is not so much Ridge Holland himself. It's we've talked
about this countless about different topics. Is these fake ass

(01:37:58):
fans who are all of a sudden Rich Hollands who
now it's like, oh, Rich Holland, he deserves better Rich Holland,
blah blah blah. It's like you lying motherfuckers. You were
the same fuckers who said this guy sucks who were
sending him death threats because of him, because of when
he injured Biggie being you're rich Holand fans because he's

(01:38:22):
getting his contract not renewed. Fuck all of you, like seriously,
fuck all of you, you fucking fake fucks.

Speaker 3 (01:38:33):
Like Jesus, he's the same people that want Ridge Holland
fire because of what happened with the accident with Biggie.

Speaker 2 (01:38:39):
So which one is it?

Speaker 1 (01:38:43):
Again? It's just people. They're only doing it because they're
pissed off at wut.

Speaker 2 (01:38:48):
Well. They're doing it to get Twitter engagement. That's what
they're doing it for. They're not doing it. They're not
doing because they actually care about the guy.

Speaker 3 (01:38:55):
They're doing it for fake Twitter engagement, trying to you know,
get new followers or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:39:02):
Yeah, And the sad thing is these are the same
people that have more followers and uh have have more
subscribers on YouTube, Like the same ones that yell woke
into the camera and car everything woke and say everything's
you know DEI and you know, fuck WWE, I hate WWE,

(01:39:22):
Triple h sucks, Triple Ah should get fired, YadA, YadA, YadA.
It's like you can't win with these fucking people. But seriously,
they can all get fucked, like seriously get fucked anally
and orally. But that is pretty much the show. That's
pretty much everything we have. Aside from from some audio hookups.

(01:39:46):
I think it sucks because the better laptop but I'm
having problems with it, so I think I'm night have
to switch back to the old laptop, which you know,
for as slow as it is, it worked better. But yeah,
but aside from some audio hookups, that was the show.

(01:40:08):
But I want to thank Justin for coming on and
or being on the show and making it work the
way it does. So thank you Justin, and thank you
everyone else for showing up, Kyle Maurice or anyone else
who's here in the chat. See what experience on Twitter

(01:40:30):
YouTube the YouTube channel we started to get. We had
some more followers, We got bumped up to one sign
trying to get those numbers up as usual, and like
I mentioned the previous week, I recently activated something on
speaker called the Supporters Club. So basically it's just you know,

(01:40:55):
no rush, but it's sucks a month. You know, you
just pay a fee, and I mean not to say that,
you know you'll have to do that with spreaker, but
like Speaker is still free. But like, like if you want,
like let's say you wanted extra content, which in the future,
we're going to start putting some extra content for just

(01:41:15):
three bucks a month. And you know, three bucks a
month goes a long way it. You know, it actually
goes towards our ad program. So whatever we make on
you know, Supporters Club goes star it's our ad program.
So I put the the link in the chat room.
So yeah's three bucks a month, no rush, no pressure,
And like I mentioned speakers where you can listen to

(01:41:38):
the show iTunes, Spotify and how many.

Speaker 3 (01:41:43):
People, uh, like, let's say when people show up does
a show, like how many people are signed.

Speaker 1 (01:41:48):
Up, it'll show you how many supporters there are. Like
I'll I mean, I'll get an email saying somebody shined
up and blah blah blah. But justin.

Speaker 2 (01:42:02):
Night yet, Oh well we'll get there.

Speaker 1 (01:42:05):
But like, but like I mentioned link, the link to
sign up is in the chair, so scroll up, but
justin go ahead and plug. Yeah.

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Speaker 1 (01:43:15):
Yes sir, all right people. Uh that's the show. We'll
be back next week, same time, same channel. Like I mentioned,
me and my friend Anthony are going to be doing
the basketball podcast, so that and then of course friendly
Neighborhood Marks with me and r j Uh. I need
to talk to him and see when the next show

(01:43:35):
is and uh Culture Attack with Rubin. I need to
talk to him see when that show is and uh
oh yeah, next Saturday we'll be Halloween Havoc, so me
and Jeff will be covering that. I'm not sure if
Ourgie will be joining. I'll need to ask him about that.
But all right, people, we're done. Peace out.

Speaker 2 (01:43:58):
Yes, I'm ready to leave you.

Speaker 4 (01:44:00):
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don't mock representing the coat of the streets properly black
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Speaker 2 (01:44:08):
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of syllables down, like Power Bob we Go wrestling reperences
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