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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jack keamblin here with my good friend Matt Sloan a
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
That's right, Jack.
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
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Can't get much lower than that.
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Papacy, Matt in the gang here on West Grand riverd Okamitz.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
They're making friends.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Let's welcome in another guy who is unique. Talk about
Jay Green, Proud Flintstone and now he's getting to be
a baseball guy.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
This is two games this summer for Jay, which is
two more than his previous season record, career record. Jay,
do you want to try to describe to our listeners
what that experience was like Wednesday in the clown car.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
It was it was one of those things where if
a person like me would just sit back and just
soak it all in, like that's that's what it was.
You just had a lot of what I feel like
was a lot of knowledge about a lot of different things.
And I just sit back and soaked it in and listened,
like that's that's what it was for me. It was
(01:23):
a great experience, uh, something that don't happen a lot,
but when it does, you you really appreciate it. So
that's that's what it was for me. It was just
a being being amongst some people that again have a
lot of knowledge and have a lot and have years
over me, so a lot more experience. So I'm just
(01:44):
like the you know, the kid who's learning it. And
that's what it was. Rob.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
It was probably a good thing that Jay came into
this trip with that here was because you had five
guys who loved to flap their dumps and the fact
that Jay was sitting up front just a sponge, just
taking it all in. A couple points, I looked up
there to see but he wasn't snoring, so I know
he was listening.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
And then we wound up there.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Jay got his picture taken down right by the dugout,
So now he's had the experience of being at the dugout,
of opposing with the big Tiger jumping up with al
Kline and left field with the statues.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Well, he saved the let he saved the last segment
of the show, if.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
You remember, he did he absolutely.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
He absolutely did. He was on the ball, thankfully.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
And can you describe the seats we were in. We
were originally up right behind home plate. We were in
foul ball territory over the screen.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
But those were good seats.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
They weren't quite as good as the ones that Jim
Keaton arranged to get for us.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
No, I agree, the original season we were in were
very good seats. You could see everything. But the upgrade
program was definitely in effect. And the seat that we
upgraded to for a wonderful seas for sure.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
And now you can't say that you've never seen the
Tigers win.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
So you have that stick has been a race, right,
it won in one this year.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yes, let's talk about let's talk about one week from
tonight Western Michigan. I was telling the story about three
matchups with the Broncos with pretty good Michigan State teams
that were scary. One was a last minute touchdown disputed
in a seven to three win in nineteen eighty five,
(03:41):
and then to start the twenty thirteen season. You can't
do any better than that. I still think Michigan State
would have had a chance to win a national championship
if there'd been a playoff that year. More than more
than a two teamer lost that game at Notre Dame
on all the pass interferences and won the rest. But
that season started with a loss, I mean, excuse me,
(04:03):
started with a win that looked like it could be
a loss against Western Michigan and Cheliqe. Calhoun saved the day.
But that was a very different Michigan State team than
the one that won the Rose Bowl. And then there
was a game in Kalamazoo, Jay, I think you were
at that one, and Michigan State won, but it was
(04:23):
a little scary well into the fourth quarter. So what
is it like to play a game like that? You've
had this experience against MAC teams, right, one that lost
to MAC teams.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
No, I think that it's a double ayer sport because
there are games that most people feel like you should win,
But I don't think that they understand the chip on
the shoulder of the guys that you played against, because
a lot of them have been you know, shun by
schools like you or so it's kind of a, you know,
a weird situation because you know, when you expect them
(04:58):
to beat a team, you know, usually MAC teams aren't
the teams that you necessarily get up for. You know,
it's just kind of a necessary evil in your mind.
But of course, you know, I lost two years in
a row to a MAC team, So yeah, you know,
I think as the years have gone going along, the
respect has grown for those teams, and I don't think
(05:19):
that it's just a you know, give me in anymore,
something that you actually got to prepare for. And now
I feel like the sentiment is you don't want to
be the one to lose to them, to a MAC
team or get embarrassed by them.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
After those two losses did the Chippewise Herb Doromedy and
Dick Flynn led teams down one twenty seven and came
back with the stunning victory, but played a third time,
and I said to George, are you sure you don't
want to cancel this game?
Speaker 4 (05:52):
He chased me out of the office.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
And playing the Central Michigan the third time, there was
a sound that I have never heard before in the
stadium as close as you could get would have been
wholl We has trouble with the snap, and the Michigan
fans sitting there, I'm like.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
What the hell just happened? But this was.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Late in the third quarter and Central comes back from
a deficit and ties the game, and the fans in
Spartan Stadium are like, you have got to be kidding me.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
I can't lose three in a row.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
And then Craig Thomas took over in the fourth quarter
and Michigan State wound up winning. I think it was
forty eight to thirty four, but it was a very
very precarious win for a long long time.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Do you remember that game when Michigan State finally got
the best of Central.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
No, I'll do, because it was a weird again, a
weird feeling because you know we I feel like we
kind of switched roles, you know, we were I feel
like they were kind of a favorite going into the game,
and you know, again, we struggled with them and pulled
it out at the end luckily. So No, I know
exactly what you were talking about, and I remember those
(07:12):
feelings of feeling like, you know, here we go again.
But thank god it didn't happen because there's no killing.
What would have come of that?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yeah, yeah, Let's talk a little bit about this Michigan
State team and now the selection of captains announced early
in the week and Michigan State with five captains. Matt Gulbin,
a senter who is going to be leading this team
(07:40):
without ever leading it out of the tunnel. He's never
worn a Michigan State helmet in a game. Transfer from
wake Forest, Quindarius Duneagan, who to my knowledge, I mean,
I suppose this could have happened back before World War One,
but I don't know of a player who's been in,
you know, from seven years.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
This is his seventh season, so he will.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Have been a football player on the collegiate level only
one year less than Jonathan Smith has been a head
coach at that level. Then you talk about Aiden Shilds
and one of the youngest captains Michigan State has ever had.
(08:25):
Then you look at Jordan Hall and you think that, well,
he should have been a captain before he certainly was
born to be a captain. And then maybe my favorite
of these choices jay is Sam Edwards and he has
done everything they've asked, played on every special team a
walk on, a lancing guy. His dad very important in
(08:49):
academic support at Michigan State. Sam came in last year
after they had all the long snapper injuries and handled
that job and he's an academic All Big Ten every
season he's been on campus.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
So what do you think of this group?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I think that the one thing I think about when
I see captains is the fact that is voted on
by the players, and that leads me to believe that
these guys have have done something or stood out in
a way that probably others haven't. Not that others haven't
stood out, but it's just something about these guys that
make guys want, you know, want to have them leading them.
(09:29):
So that's what That's what I always think about. The
fact that they are chosen by their peers, which you know,
that's kind of the toughest nut to crack is your peers.
You know, that's that's where you what you really care
about is what your peers think. So the fact that again,
the fact that the piers shows them, I think that
they saw some memm especially Aiden, you know, I think
(09:51):
that they probably saw a lot of maturity in him,
because you know, we talked about him not going to
the the Big Ten meetings and and you know how
that was, and the fact that now he was a captain,
I think sales a lot. So I feel like it
just makes me kind of more excited to see what's
to come, you know, with the guy that they children,
(10:12):
I would think that before the season or before this
came out, Jordan Hall might have been the only name
on that list that you probably would have picked.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, yeah, certainly he'd been the one who was most likely.
I'll buy that as green blooded. And I don't mean
as a pun on your name. As you are and
were as a player, your loyalty was unquestioned. You'd have
been a transfer portal wouldn't have mattered to you. But
in spite of all that, you were not a candidate
(10:45):
to be a captain. You were a voter for captains
and what were you looking for when you cast your ballot?
How did you judge who would be a good captain?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
You just kind of look at, again, guys who are
who are out in whatever way, whether that's in workouts,
in meetings. Sometimes it's a guy that's vocal, but you know,
it's not always the fact that he's vocals. The fact
that he's backing up, you know, what are you saying?
So it's a lot of different things that you look for,
but I think the main thing is you're just looking
(11:18):
for a guy who stands out, because that's usually what
a captain, you know, is they're a leader and they're
the face of the program and what's going on. So
I think that those are kind of the qualities that
I know I look for, and I think different guys
look for different things. But as far as me, it's
just a guy who you know, stands out amongst everybody else.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Is there a player or a couple of players since
you really got to Michigan State, let's say the last
thirty five years, and you look at you say that
guy was an ideal captain.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
You can't be much better than he was.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
It's hard to say for teams that I that I
wasn't on, because again that's the part of it is
the way that you rally your team and the way
that your team teammates feel about you because of the
person and the leader that you are. I know that
during my time, I you know, it was some very
good captains. A matter of fact, Coach Hawk was a captain,
(12:19):
you know, on one of the teams that I played on,
and I think that we see, you know, kind of
what he's doing now. So for every guy's different, but
for me, and I think the other thing is what
people need to understand is just because a guy is
not selected as a captain, don't mean that he's not
a leader on the team. You know, you can only
have so many so just you know, captains are leaders,
(12:43):
but you also have other leaders on the team also.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
You know, Jay, I think back to Duffy Dougherty in
nineteen sixty six and all of the incredible work that
was done for integration of college football, and Duffy was
determined that not only was he going to reward all Americans,
but he was going to be color blind. And when
they trotted out Clinton Jones and George Webster as the captains,
(13:14):
and some people around the country.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
With racist tendencies didn't like that.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
But I can go back through Michigan State in point
to four captains that I thought were just about as
good as you could get, might be able to write
the manual for captains.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
One of them was a Flint guy. It was George's
second year, Jay and Jim Morrissey was the last solo captain.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
He was so good, so much of a leader, He
was the spear of the stunt four to three defense
that he didn't need any help. He did it alone
in nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
And I think about a guy who could get anybody
fired up.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I mean, if you weren't into the game and you
didn't respond to this guy, you didn't have a pulse.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
And that was Ike Reese at Michigan State. Oh, great choice,
incredible captain.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
And I think back to the guy who really got
the Mark d Antonio era going, and he was the
last guy they brought in in the first class and
Kirk Cousins. You know, you don't have to be a
captain to be a great quarterback. Connor Cook certainly proved that.
But when you are the captain and your team beats
(14:35):
Michigan four straight years, you're doing a lot of things right.
And guys looked to him. They called him Captain Kirk,
that's what they called them, and not just because of
Star Trek and the fourth guy Jay, And I think
that he may have been as good a captain as
I've seen at Michigan State in any sport. Was our
buddy Darien Harris.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
And I think the interesting thing about that is I
don't Jim Morrissey I knew a little bit about, and
I've heard stories about Ike Greece. I know very well.
Kirk Cousins, of course, you know, you hear a lot
about and Darien I know, and they are all different
kind of personalities who I feel like did things in
(15:17):
different ways. You know. I feel like was very fiery
and like you said, he can get guys to run
through walls for him. I think I feel like Darien,
even though I wasn't on the team with him, was
a guy who was just very intelligent and kind of
led by example. Kirk Cousins was a guy who you know,
came in not very heralded, but then you know when
(15:40):
he left, you know, he was a top draft pick.
So I think that they all kind of did it
in different ways. And I think that's the wonderful thing
about captains is each team is different and every you know,
every team needs different things, and all of those guys
gave their teams what they needed.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Jay, thanks so much for joining us twice this week,
and next Friday, I'm going to see you on campus. Rob,
I'm gonna be rolling around somewhere. I don't know how
we're going to try to get this show done from
campus before the game, and then I think you'll join
me over there for the kickoff. But we'll be over
(16:18):
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there on campus.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I'll look forward to its.
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Speaker 4 (00:30):
They're making friends.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Let's welcome in another guy who is unique. Talk about
Jay Green, Proud Flintstone and now he's getting to be
a baseball guy.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
This is two games this summer for Jay, which is
two more than his previous season record, career record. Jay,
do you want to try to describe to our listeners
what that experience was like Wednesday in the clown car.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
It was it was one of those things where if
a person like me would just sit back and just
soak it all in, like that's that's what it was.
You just had a lot of what I feel like
was a lot of knowledge about a lot of different things.
And I just sit back and soaked it in and listened,
like that's that's what it was for me. It was
(01:23):
a great experience, uh, something that don't happen a lot,
but when it does, you you really appreciate it. So
that's that's what it was for me. It was just
a being being amongst some people that again have a
lot of knowledge and have a lot and have years
over me, so a lot more experience. So I'm just
(01:44):
like the you know, the kid who's learning it. And
that's what it was. Rob.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
It was probably a good thing that Jay came into
this trip with that here was because you had five
guys who loved to flap their dumps and the fact
that Jay was sitting up front just a sponge, just
taking it all in. A couple points, I looked up
there to see but he wasn't snoring, so I know
he was listening.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
And then we wound up there.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Jay got his picture taken down right by the dugout,
So now he's had the experience of being at the dugout,
of opposing with the big Tiger jumping up with al
Kline and left field with the statues.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Well, he saved the let he saved the last segment
of the show, if.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
You remember, he did he absolutely.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
He absolutely did. He was on the ball, thankfully.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
And can you describe the seats we were in. We
were originally up right behind home plate. We were in
foul ball territory over the screen.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
But those were good seats.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
They weren't quite as good as the ones that Jim
Keaton arranged to get for us.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
No, I agree, the original season we were in were
very good seats. You could see everything. But the upgrade
program was definitely in effect. And the seat that we
upgraded to for a wonderful seas for sure.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
And now you can't say that you've never seen the
Tigers win.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
So you have that stick has been a race, right,
it won in one this year.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yes, let's talk about let's talk about one week from
tonight Western Michigan. I was telling the story about three
matchups with the Broncos with pretty good Michigan State teams
that were scary. One was a last minute touchdown disputed
in a seven to three win in nineteen eighty five,
(03:41):
and then to start the twenty thirteen season. You can't
do any better than that. I still think Michigan State
would have had a chance to win a national championship
if there'd been a playoff that year. More than more
than a two teamer lost that game at Notre Dame
on all the pass interferences and won the rest. But
that season started with a loss, I mean, excuse me,
(04:03):
started with a win that looked like it could be
a loss against Western Michigan and Cheliqe. Calhoun saved the day.
But that was a very different Michigan State team than
the one that won the Rose Bowl. And then there
was a game in Kalamazoo, Jay, I think you were
at that one, and Michigan State won, but it was
(04:23):
a little scary well into the fourth quarter. So what
is it like to play a game like that? You've
had this experience against MAC teams, right, one that lost
to MAC teams.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
No, I think that it's a double ayer sport because
there are games that most people feel like you should win,
But I don't think that they understand the chip on
the shoulder of the guys that you played against, because
a lot of them have been you know, shun by
schools like you or so it's kind of a, you know,
a weird situation because you know, when you expect them
(04:58):
to beat a team, you know, usually MAC teams aren't
the teams that you necessarily get up for. You know,
it's just kind of a necessary evil in your mind.
But of course, you know, I lost two years in
a row to a MAC team, So yeah, you know,
I think as the years have gone going along, the
respect has grown for those teams, and I don't think
(05:19):
that it's just a you know, give me in anymore,
something that you actually got to prepare for. And now
I feel like the sentiment is you don't want to
be the one to lose to them, to a MAC
team or get embarrassed by them.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
After those two losses did the Chippewise Herb Doromedy and
Dick Flynn led teams down one twenty seven and came
back with the stunning victory, but played a third time,
and I said to George, are you sure you don't
want to cancel this game?
Speaker 4 (05:52):
He chased me out of the office.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
And playing the Central Michigan the third time, there was
a sound that I have never heard before in the
stadium as close as you could get would have been
wholl We has trouble with the snap, and the Michigan
fans sitting there, I'm like.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
What the hell just happened? But this was.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Late in the third quarter and Central comes back from
a deficit and ties the game, and the fans in
Spartan Stadium are like, you have got to be kidding me.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
I can't lose three in a row.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
And then Craig Thomas took over in the fourth quarter
and Michigan State wound up winning. I think it was
forty eight to thirty four, but it was a very
very precarious win for a long long time.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Do you remember that game when Michigan State finally got
the best of Central.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
No, I'll do, because it was a weird again, a
weird feeling because you know we I feel like we
kind of switched roles, you know, we were I feel
like they were kind of a favorite going into the game,
and you know, again, we struggled with them and pulled
it out at the end luckily. So No, I know
exactly what you were talking about, and I remember those
(07:12):
feelings of feeling like, you know, here we go again.
But thank god it didn't happen because there's no killing.
What would have come of that?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yeah, yeah, Let's talk a little bit about this Michigan
State team and now the selection of captains announced early
in the week and Michigan State with five captains. Matt Gulbin,
a senter who is going to be leading this team
(07:40):
without ever leading it out of the tunnel. He's never
worn a Michigan State helmet in a game. Transfer from
wake Forest, Quindarius Duneagan, who to my knowledge, I mean,
I suppose this could have happened back before World War One,
but I don't know of a player who's been in,
you know, from seven years.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
This is his seventh season, so he will.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Have been a football player on the collegiate level only
one year less than Jonathan Smith has been a head
coach at that level. Then you talk about Aiden Shilds
and one of the youngest captains Michigan State has ever had.
(08:25):
Then you look at Jordan Hall and you think that, well,
he should have been a captain before he certainly was
born to be a captain. And then maybe my favorite
of these choices jay is Sam Edwards and he has
done everything they've asked, played on every special team a
walk on, a lancing guy. His dad very important in
(08:49):
academic support at Michigan State. Sam came in last year
after they had all the long snapper injuries and handled
that job and he's an academic All Big Ten every
season he's been on campus.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
So what do you think of this group?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I think that the one thing I think about when
I see captains is the fact that is voted on
by the players, and that leads me to believe that
these guys have have done something or stood out in
a way that probably others haven't. Not that others haven't
stood out, but it's just something about these guys that
make guys want, you know, want to have them leading them.
(09:29):
So that's what That's what I always think about. The
fact that they are chosen by their peers, which you know,
that's kind of the toughest nut to crack is your peers.
You know, that's that's where you what you really care
about is what your peers think. So the fact that again,
the fact that the piers shows them, I think that
they saw some memm especially Aiden, you know, I think
(09:51):
that they probably saw a lot of maturity in him,
because you know, we talked about him not going to
the the Big Ten meetings and and you know how
that was, and the fact that now he was a captain,
I think sales a lot. So I feel like it
just makes me kind of more excited to see what's
to come, you know, with the guy that they children,
(10:12):
I would think that before the season or before this
came out, Jordan Hall might have been the only name
on that list that you probably would have picked.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, yeah, certainly he'd been the one who was most likely.
I'll buy that as green blooded. And I don't mean
as a pun on your name. As you are and
were as a player, your loyalty was unquestioned. You'd have
been a transfer portal wouldn't have mattered to you. But
in spite of all that, you were not a candidate
(10:45):
to be a captain. You were a voter for captains
and what were you looking for when you cast your ballot?
How did you judge who would be a good captain?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
You just kind of look at, again, guys who are
who are out in whatever way, whether that's in workouts,
in meetings. Sometimes it's a guy that's vocal, but you know,
it's not always the fact that he's vocals. The fact
that he's backing up, you know, what are you saying?
So it's a lot of different things that you look for,
but I think the main thing is you're just looking
(11:18):
for a guy who stands out, because that's usually what
a captain, you know, is they're a leader and they're
the face of the program and what's going on. So
I think that those are kind of the qualities that
I know I look for, and I think different guys
look for different things. But as far as me, it's
just a guy who you know, stands out amongst everybody else.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Is there a player or a couple of players since
you really got to Michigan State, let's say the last
thirty five years, and you look at you say that
guy was an ideal captain.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
You can't be much better than he was.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
It's hard to say for teams that I that I
wasn't on, because again that's the part of it is
the way that you rally your team and the way
that your team teammates feel about you because of the
person and the leader that you are. I know that
during my time, I you know, it was some very
good captains. A matter of fact, Coach Hawk was a captain,
(12:19):
you know, on one of the teams that I played on,
and I think that we see, you know, kind of
what he's doing now. So for every guy's different, but
for me, and I think the other thing is what
people need to understand is just because a guy is
not selected as a captain, don't mean that he's not
a leader on the team. You know, you can only
have so many so just you know, captains are leaders,
(12:43):
but you also have other leaders on the team also.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
You know, Jay, I think back to Duffy Dougherty in
nineteen sixty six and all of the incredible work that
was done for integration of college football, and Duffy was
determined that not only was he going to reward all Americans,
but he was going to be color blind. And when
they trotted out Clinton Jones and George Webster as the captains,
(13:14):
and some people around the country.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
With racist tendencies didn't like that.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
But I can go back through Michigan State in point
to four captains that I thought were just about as
good as you could get, might be able to write
the manual for captains.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
One of them was a Flint guy. It was George's
second year, Jay and Jim Morrissey was the last solo captain.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
He was so good, so much of a leader, He
was the spear of the stunt four to three defense
that he didn't need any help. He did it alone
in nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
And I think about a guy who could get anybody
fired up.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I mean, if you weren't into the game and you
didn't respond to this guy, you didn't have a pulse.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
And that was Ike Reese at Michigan State. Oh, great choice,
incredible captain.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
And I think back to the guy who really got
the Mark d Antonio era going, and he was the
last guy they brought in in the first class and
Kirk Cousins. You know, you don't have to be a
captain to be a great quarterback. Connor Cook certainly proved that.
But when you are the captain and your team beats
(14:35):
Michigan four straight years, you're doing a lot of things right.
And guys looked to him. They called him Captain Kirk,
that's what they called them, and not just because of
Star Trek and the fourth guy Jay, And I think
that he may have been as good a captain as
I've seen at Michigan State in any sport. Was our
buddy Darien Harris.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
And I think the interesting thing about that is I
don't Jim Morrissey I knew a little bit about, and
I've heard stories about Ike Greece. I know very well.
Kirk Cousins, of course, you know, you hear a lot
about and Darien I know, and they are all different
kind of personalities who I feel like did things in
(15:17):
different ways. You know. I feel like was very fiery
and like you said, he can get guys to run
through walls for him. I think I feel like Darien,
even though I wasn't on the team with him, was
a guy who was just very intelligent and kind of
led by example. Kirk Cousins was a guy who you know,
came in not very heralded, but then you know when
(15:40):
he left, you know, he was a top draft pick.
So I think that they all kind of did it
in different ways. And I think that's the wonderful thing
about captains is each team is different and every you know,
every team needs different things, and all of those guys
gave their teams what they needed.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Jay, thanks so much for joining us twice this week,
and next Friday, I'm going to see you on campus. Rob,
I'm gonna be rolling around somewhere. I don't know how
we're going to try to get this show done from
campus before the game, and then I think you'll join
me over there for the kickoff. But we'll be over
(16:18):
there and Jay we'll hook up and do our segment
there on campus.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I'll look forward to its.
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