* Jay Greene, Michigan State Football alum

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 4 (00:30):
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Speaker 5 (00:32):
Jay Green joins us. Proud Flintstone Spartan dog for life.
You got a lot of answers. Which Michigan State team
are we going to see tomorrow?

Speaker 2 (00:44):
I'm hoping that we see the best Michigan Stay team,
the best version of the Lisa.

Speaker 5 (00:49):
I know you're hoping it. You always hope it. You
you have green glasses.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
We know that. But which one do you think we're
gonna see?

Speaker 2 (00:57):
I think we will see a better version of think that.
It's a lot you know that's going on in this game.
You know, the two quarterbacks all rivals. You got a
coach who was here last year, that's returning, who played here,
that's here, So that's a whole nother you know issue.
And you know, they just came off a big win

(01:18):
and we just came off of a game we should
have won. So it's a lot going on. And I
think that both teams really got a lot to play
for us. So I think that it'll be it'll be
a good game, but I think the best, the best
version of us will show up.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
We both know Demetris Martin.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
You know him a lot better than I do, having
been a teammate of his in the early nineties here
and he was an All Big Ten defensive back before
making a tour of the West Coast coaching stops, coming
back to Michigan State and then heading back to UCLA.
Who has the advantage on that Jay, Is it meet

(01:58):
for knowing the Michigan State personnel or is it Michigan
State's other coaches for knowing what Meat likes to do?

Speaker 4 (02:07):
Well?

Speaker 2 (02:08):
I would think it would be him because he because
he was actually in that building. I think it's different
when you actually in the building because you get a
different sense of everything than you know, everybody else does.
So if there is an advantage, I would definitely say
that that it's him, But you know, you kind of
wonder if there really is an advantage, because you know

(02:28):
that I feel like they know that they know what
he knows, and they going to try to make sure
that they don't do things that he's familiar with. So
I think that him knowing is definitely an advantage, but
I just don't know how much of an advantage it
would be.

Speaker 5 (02:43):
We had seen a notable improvement from Aiden Childs first
four games of the year. He was the best thing
Michigan State had going on offense, maybe next to it's
incredible punter Ryan Eckley. Really a positive player for the
Spartans last week.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
None of that.

Speaker 5 (03:02):
Some good plays with his legs, but I really could
not throw the ball effectively.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
What happened.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
And that's hard to say. That's a That's a great
question I wish I had an answer to. He seemed
very comfortable and yeah, I've been doing very well. I
don't know, you know, coming off the bye week, you know,
you usually expect, you know, more improvement coming off of
bye week because you've got that time to you know,
kind of get your stuff to things together. But yeah,

(03:32):
that's a good question which I don't have an answer
for because I'm not really sure and I don't want
to say that he's just going in the tank just
because of one bad game either, you know, it happens.
So I'm interested to see how he bounced back, how
he bounces back from that you know, performance from last week,
and how he does. Yeah, I think that's going to

(03:55):
be again. That would be a part of what's going on,
to be able to see bas back.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
You're a receiver, you understand the mindset receivers are are
a little different the way they're wired. But we saw
the conversation slash confrontation last week on the sideline with
Nick Marsh and Aidan Giles and their friends and you
know they rode back together on the plane and all that,

(04:25):
but a lot of frustration and you can imagine for
Nick Marsh he wants to get the football and not
getting it enough for whatever reason. But how much of
getting a receiver the ball if you have a great receiver,
and I've seen teams scheme to get their receiver the

(04:46):
ball in unusual ways. Lou Holtz was very good at
this with Tim Brown with rocket ismail with others, and
Nick Saban very good at getting his main guide the ball.
Is there a problem here that Michigan State is not
getting the ball to Nick marsh or he can do

(05:08):
something with it.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
I think that it is definitely a problem because I
feel like he's our best player on offense, and you
want to get your best player of the ball. I
think that, you know, after what happened in the last game,
I think that there is definitely a priority. And then
I think that they'll figure it out. And I think
that you know, what we saw is just two guys.
You know, it happens in the heat about it. You

(05:33):
got two guys who want to win very badly, and
when that's not happening, you know, we see it on
a professional level. I watched the Eagles game last night,
and they have you know, they had guys who were
disgruntled about not getting the ball as far as receivers.
So I think it's just a thing. And I think
that more so, guys just want to feel like they
contributing him. If you're not getting the ball, you don't

(05:55):
feel like he's contributing. And I think that that's basically
what it is. I don't think that, and especially mixed case,
I don't think that is necessarily about getting him the ball.
I think that it's just about, you know, the whole
offense as a whole is what they frustrated with. I
don't think it's just about getting him the ball because
I don't feel like he's a selfish player like that.
I think he just wants to win, just like AID

(06:16):
wants to win.

Speaker 5 (06:19):
Last week we saw a different Michigan State defense.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
Jay.

Speaker 5 (06:25):
We talked about the offense and the special teams not
getting it done. The defense played really well considering some
of the field position. There was a touchdown that was
not on the field for with the block punt kickoff
return that was botched, led to a very short field,
some other things that happened. That wasn't the perfect game

(06:48):
for the defense, but much better than what we had
seen two weeks earlier out at the coliseum. So do
you think that the defense took a real step or
is it going to be undressed and exposed tomorrow by
Nico Iamaliava.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
I think it took a step, but the I think
the question is is whether you can take another step
or you're going to take a step back because we
you know, we hadn't been getting any pressure on the quarterback,
which we did. We were able to get a couple
of sacks and was able to get some pressure on them,
and I think that was for a variety of reasons.
So that I think the thing is that building on that,
whether you can build on that to move forward, or again,

(07:30):
if you're just going to take a step back. So
I think that that would be interesting to see. And
I think again with a guy who is, you know,
kind of high profile, I think that that would motivate
you in order to want to have a big game.
So we'll see how that works out.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
Jay, in the interest of full disclosure, two years ago
about this time, and certainly it was in the month
of October, you told me that you thought this coach
at Bregon State was terrific. At that point, this was
long before that we knew Alan Haller was going to

(08:07):
zero in on him and make him as his focal
higher But you really like Jonathan Smith just from watching
from afar now the reaction to him is not what
he would want. You don't want to say he's maybe
on the hot seat yet but it's it's heating up,

(08:28):
and a loss tomorrow might be some irretrievable territory for
a lot of fans. How important is this game? I
say they all count one, but this one count a
little bit more. If you lose this one, you're probably
not making a bowl game and homecoming the alums back.

(08:49):
I think a lot of people are ready to pass judgment.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
No, I agree. I think this is a huge game.
I think with the loss last week, it makes it
even bigger because losing this game will give us free
losses in a row, and you're looking at going to
Indiana and hoston Michigan and the week you know, and
the week's following that, and you still got Pean State,
you know, to deal with. So I think that losing
this game, I think. I always feel like losing a

(09:15):
homecoming game is always huge anyway, because I feel like
you try to schedule a team that you know that
you think you can bet on homecoming, so to actually
lose that game, I always feel like it's kind of demoralizing.
But I think that again it's possible. It's a one
to one team that's you know, kind of I think
we kind of hope that they kind of still celebrating,

(09:36):
is what what I you know, and then having to
travel across country and then play a noon game. I
also feel like it'll be tough. So they gonna have
their work cutoff for them, but we will also have
our work cut out for us.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
So you're saying that we should know a lot about
what teams can do if we look at the other
team's schedules and if we see one team as a
homecoming opponent for two or three teams, those teams think, well,
that's a w That's probably a bad thing when you're
in a lot of homecoming games.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
No, I agree, if you are everybody's homecoming game, I
think that that's definitely a bad thing, and you should
take that personally for sure.

Speaker 5 (10:21):
You're one of these guys because you get up very
very early before I go to bed.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
Noon games are fine for you, right.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Noon games are the absolute best, And I honestly don't remember.
I think the last noon game we had might have
been when we beat Michigan in twenty one. That's the
last noon game that I actually remember. So I'm here
for and there are also some great games after our
game which I'll be able to watch, which makes it

(10:52):
even more exciting.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
So that's right.

Speaker 5 (10:55):
And next week, Rob, you know where Jay and I
are going to be. We will be doing the show
on the road next Friday. And uh uh no, maybe
we won't because I think we're going to go in
on Saturday. We're going to leave Saturday morning, right, leave
Saturday morning and come back Sunday.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
That's our plan.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Now we are traveling, that's right, the traveling band.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yes, so my first official game as a member of
the media, that's right. That's right.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
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