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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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I want to welcome in our Detroit correspondents. And we're
not going to spend a lot of time on the
Lions in Kansas City because there's another Detroit team that's
still playing.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
A lot of people weren't sure that would be the case.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
In the fifth inning yesterday when the Tigers were coming
to bat and it was three nothing Seattle and that
would have closed it out. A lot of people were
moaning and there were audible booze at Comerica Park.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
What happened? How did the Tigers find nine runs all
of a sudden, Rich.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
I'll tell you what they sort of hitting the baseball.
I mean, it's just that simple, all of a sudden.
You know, the experts kept saying that when the Tigers
are gonna have to get extra bates, get extra base hits,
and get some home runs. And they finally got around
to doing that, and now, right, you got the best
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picture of baseball going for you tomorrow and in Seattle
beat them four times in a year. Mostly I don't know,
I don't think they can.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yeah. Yeah, people will look back.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
On this season as being maybe the most bizarre in
Detroit history. You have the twenty five game lead and
then blow it and go seven and seventeen in September
and lose the division by a game, and then come
back and beat that same team in the wild card
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rounds and then look like they were on life support
yesterday and then find this surge an eighteen run pace.
They had hit that way for the whole game, and
now to go back. You know, this is something you
couldn't write this. I wouldn't send this into a publisher
and say I've got a thought for a story.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Well, I'll tell you what. When you talk about great
Tigers seasons, maybe you go back to nineteen sixty seven
when I had that tremendous four way Pennant Race that
went right down to the final weekend. In fact that
Tigers had to play double headers on Saturday and Sunday
that last weekend and a game short in their pursuit
of the Boston Red Sox. In that one, that was
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a terrific story in and of itself, But in terms
of agony and ecstasy, no, nothing comes close to this
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
You mentionedeen sixty seven, and there were two other events
there besides that Pennant Race, and to think that you
could have four teams the final day of the season,
as you mentioned, and Tiger's that doubleheader with the Angels
losing it. But there was the riot in Detroit, and
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for a lot of people that was a life shaping event.
Certainly changed a lot of things about southeastern Michigan to
this day. There was also a long, long newspaper strike,
and in those days, rich it wasn't a matter of
going to your cell phone or flipping on ESPN. People
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depended on the newspaper, on the Detroit, on the Detroit
Free Press. Before that the Detroit Times. That's where you
got your news, was from the daily newspaper, and not.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
To happen, everybody made it. Everybody needed to read Jerry Green,
or they needed to read Joe Falls or Pee Wallmeyer
or any of a you know, the pantheons of Great Collins,
and those guys were shut up in sixty seven and
well into sixty eight. And it turns out we were
talking at these last few days during the playoffs about
pressure on athletes, and you'll never get an athlete to
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admit to being under pressure, but they all said it
was a relief not to have to deal with newspaper people.
So maybe there is something to the pressure, after all,
you can't have it both ways. I don't suspect, but yeah, yeah, good.
You know that riot in sixty seven, My sister and
I got stuck at Tiger Stadium that day. The Tiger
was playing a double letter against the unique, the New
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York Yankees. Yet oh and I remember I was like twelve, oh, yeah, twelve,
But remember seeing the smoke rising over the left field
stands and you're wondering what's going on. Tons of people
had their radios at the game to listen to Ernie.
But they never made any announcement over the pieces or
on those radios about the riot because they thought to
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give it publicity would make the situation worse. So they
kept the lid on things. And in the eighth inning
of the second game, we had gone down there by
the bus, and the eighth inning of the second game
they announced on the PA the bus was wooden, would
not be running, and we were thrown into a bit
of a situation, if you will, But you know, we
we got out of it. But oh my god, Bill Bonds,
if I can digress just a moment, so it'd be great.
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Detroit newscaster, the famous to great newscast Bill Bonch told
me one time that the riots started because the Blind Pig,
where all the troubles began down on twel Streets, did
not did not pay its protection money to the cops,
you know. And I wanted, I wanted to write a book.
I wanted to write a book with Bill Box because
you're talking about the seminal moment in Detroit history. And
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I just thought that'd be a great story to you know.
And I thought the book would have done well, at
least at least in the state of Michigan, especially in
southwest Detroit, but it never did white pan out. And
then Bill died and I was I'd never got a
chance to tell the story. I regret that.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Two years ago, I was coming back from Tiger's game
and it was an afternoon game, and I said, you
know what I'm going to do. I Am going to
go to twelfth Street, Rosa Parks Boulevard there and I'm
going to spend two hours out here and I'm going
to walk it and I'm going to see. You know,
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it's changed a lot, but I'm going to talk to
people and find out what they knew. And some knew nothing,
you know, just what the legend and others. So, you know,
my aunt or my uncle or my brother or I
was there and I could have stayed there all day
listening to that historical narrative about one of the most
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important events in the history of state of Michigan.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Oh, no question about it. Yeah, well that you're talking
about an event that sets the tory back fifty years.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Yeah, everybody talks about it's coming back now, but it
is only now that Detroit has come back. And oh yeah,
for those of us who grew up in the area.
I mean it was a generational shock.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, people have no idea that in the nineteen sixties
the five dominant cities in the United States. You talk
about Detroit and New York and Chicago and Philadelphia and Detroit,
those were the five, not Houston, not Atlanta. You know,
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it has changed so much, And you're right, the stigma,
the business that was lost, the migration of people, the
flight to the suburbs, everything changed because of what happened
in nineteen sixty seven. But yeah, wanted to talk to
you just for a minute about football here and the
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Lions on the road Kansas City. How important a game
is this the span of a seventeen game season.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Oh, they all count one seventeenth. I mean, some would say,
but this is an important game because again it's an
opportunity to send that message. I don't know if the
Fry needs to re establish its reputation any longer after
the dvakul in Week one. You know, they're four and
one at this point, looking pretty solid. But no, for
all the reasons here, five game win streak sounds often
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I five and one sounds offt and I stuff. For
all the reasons this is it's a huge game, cool lines,
and I like their chances going into this one. I
like the fact that they've had a little bit more
rest and I don't think they're but's banged up to
Kansas City, although you got to watch that Detroit secondary
and we will do that over the course of the week.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, and Detroit has beaten Kansas City and won in
Kansas City. But the idea, yeah, that you're going up
against the dominant team of the decade and if you
want to get them again, that's got to give you
confidence that should you meet Kansas City or a team
of that caliber, maybe it's Buffalo, maybe it's the Eagles
later in the season in the playoffs, not in the
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regular season, that you would have a great opportunity to
get to the Super Bowl and even win it. I
want to talk to you a little bit about this
weekend before Sunday, and Sunday is going to be a
crazy day here. If the Tigers can win tomorrow in Seattle,
we're going to have the Tigers and the Lions both
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going in Marquee Attractions on Sunday. But you've got a
game tonight, right or tomorrow night?
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Got a game tonight. It's said, Well, we're here at
a little season's arena right now. The Red Wands are opening.
They're a twenty five twenty six campaign against the Montreal Canadians.
They're kicking off there. The Canadian are in town. They're
kicking off their centennial season, which I don't agree with
first game in Red Wands since we was played in
September of nineteen twenty six. I say that ultra one
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hundred till September nineteen twenty six. But this is the
one hot with season of Red Wings hockey. I like
to say about the fact that when I was born,
the run Wings were only thirty two and now there
are one hundred.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Well, what kind of season is this going to be?
Is this going to be the season we've been waiting for?
Or is this going to be you know what? Another
state meant that Steve Eiserman as a much better player
than an executive.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Well, i'll tell you what. I think. This is a
year where he's got to answer that to a question.
I think it's the en or he's gone. I think
we've reached that point. It all depends that not all
of it. But pitching is to goaltending is to hockey.
With pitching is to baseball. The goaltender of the Detroit
run Rings is a guy named John and Gibson, acquired
in a trade over the summer. If he performs the
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Stevie's going to look pretty good. If he don't, somebody's
going to get shown the door. I think I one
hates to be blunt, but it's opening no, And I
think that's the situation that confirms the Red Wings. You know.
The funny thing is though, thingf Eisamuin's picture on this storeboard.
At some point tonight it introducts he's going to get cheered.
He's gonna cheered loudly. How many gms have missed the
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playoffs for seven years in a row? Get cheered loudly? So,
I mean you feel a very.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Popular, biggest job and still be chaired.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Yeah, you know what, that's an interesting He might well be.
He might well be. So, I don't know. I'm one
of those guys. You know, I've known Stevie since he
showed up in Detroit of an eighteen year old in
nineteen eighty one. I like the guy. I pulled for
the guy. But yeah, it's time for results. Enough of this.
Oh wait, we missed the playoffs by a point, and
we missed the playoffs by by three points. His team's
got to get itself together and get into that post season.
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And there's a lot of names on this roster.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Right right, a lot of young players.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Yeap. Have high school game tomorrow. Yeah, it'll be fun.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
And the.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Exactly keep an eye out on those Farms and Falcons.
They're five and one. They're playing with some real good football.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I will see you Saturday at Spartan Stadium.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Correct, correct, and then I'll turn it off from that
and get back down a little seasons to the Breadwicks
maypleas came on Saturday night. I'm looking forward to a
busy couple three days coming up here. Yeah. But it's
all part of the fun, isn't it, Jack, Yep.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yes, that's right. That's that's why.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
That's that's why people would love to have our jobs,
even though they wouldn't love to have our.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Paychecks pretty much pretty much.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah, yeah, Rich, thanks so much for joining us. I
appreciate you doing double duty the last two days, and
I hope that when we talk Saturday in the box
and then next week on this show, we're still talking baseball.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Sounds good. Jack takes care man appreciate it.
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