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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jack Kebling here with my good friend Matt Sloan a
graph of Okeemists. Big summer here, Matt.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
That's right, Jack.
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
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Speaker 4 (00:24):
Can't get much lower than that.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
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Speaker 4 (00:30):
They're making friends.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I want to stay right here, Rob and welcome in
Archie Troit correspondent or man for All Sports, rich Kin
caid Rich.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
You heard some of.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
The comments from Pat Kapudo, Sure, Kenny that you disagree
with about guys who are going to be gone or
what this Tiger's team needs for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Well, you know, I'll just go back and start talking
about last Friday night. I want to talk about Pat
at some point I remember, and I'm sure he does.
Two to night, I was chasing Marannie Ice after he
humiliated me during a.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Hockey team Yeah right he did.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
He was pats a bit of a pylon out there,
but he goes from fifteen feet in. He was money.
I couldn't stop the guy. He's scored more goals on me.
Some guys got the pucket the point, I'm having a
really bad night. I'm down ten nothing, ten to one whatever.
I'm just getting lit right and the kampooters are increasing.
He goes, how gonna you give it up tonight? Ten?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
You know?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
And I turned to stare at him or maybe hit
him with my blocker, and just as I turned right,
they guy at the point shoot and it goes right
between my legs and Kiputera goes, oh eleven then and
I threw it down my blocker and I threw it
down my glove and I sort of chased the marne
ice and somebody says, somebody said, what are you going
to do if you catch him? So there you go.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I would have loved to see that one when you
guys threw down. That would have been great.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Let's let's talk about school. If he shouldn't come out
for that seventh getting I you know, I'm down with
the game. Has changed. You know, we can all talk
about Jack for us, and you know he fought for
the baseball, you know, but it is different now and
essentially earlier today. Of School's last five starts this season,
all of them in the playoffs or you know, key
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clinching games that sort of like the like the series
decider in Cleveland for example, And you see twelve strikeouts,
thirteen strikeouts, fourteen strikeouts in these outings, and then you
look at the bottom. Tigers were one and four in
those starts. So the reason the Tigers lost Friday was
at Kyle Finnegan walked the leadoff guy in the seventh
inning when the Tigers had a two to one lead.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, maybe to that guy in the well.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
But you know, baseball Jack, I think what it would
have happened is if Scooba comes out and works the eighth,
Finnegan comes out, walks the lead up guy, Ethan, he
comes around the scores of Tiger right. It was just
this game was the greatest baseball game I've ever seen
involving the Detroit Tigers. This was the Tigers version of
Game six of the nineteen seventy five World Series Boston
and Cincinnati. The Bernie Carver home run to tie it
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up in the eighth I think the three run shot,
and then of course Carlson fifth game winner. What was
that the fourteenth inning? Something like that. You know, this
was the Tiger's version of that. It was one of
the greatest baseball games ever played.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Should write a book about it.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Having written absolutely books, someone should just write about that night. Sure, yeah,
amazing and so yeah, so how do you explain the
Seattle Mariners now and Jorge october is just going crazy
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in the postseason. This is not Placido Polanco. This is
Jorge Polanco and Seattle, which could barely scrape itself onto
the plane to fly to Ontario, is heading back to
Washington State, or is back now with a pair of wins,
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and they're two more. They may not have to go
back to Eastern Canada. They may be headed right to
the World Series.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Well, you want me, you want me to explain that?
I can only do you know, you're limited to pat
computer to twenty five words to us in one of
his responses, I can do it in one sports you know.
That's you can't predict that. That's why I don't gamble
on this stuff. Oh my God, yeah, I mean that
would that seemed like a dead solid locks. That's wile
beating Saddle in Game one for all reasons listed above.
(04:28):
But you know there's something I must be something to
be set for adrenaline and the playoffs so and have
have not? The playoffs been great as usual?
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah absolutely And for someone who you know, I don't
sit and watch all the Tigers games every inning, but
when we get into this postseason drama, I mean, you
can't have a script. Aaron Sorkin couldn't write something any
better than this, And oh you're sitting there watching guys
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rise to the moment rich. I mean I saw two
throws Friday night as good as any throw I have
ever seen from a catcher, first cal Rally then Dylan Dingler.
And to think of what cal Rally has done this season.
I mean, now, he's got sixty two home runs, but
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gold Glove defense, and he was hitting for average against Detroit.
He wasn't trying to put the ball in the seats.
He was an absolute clinic for what Riley Green should do.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
And it's situational hitting.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
It Sometimes, yeah, you can hit a home run, but
you don't have to try to do it every swing
and to watch what he has done. I mean, I
wouldn't want to have a vote for American League MVP
because Aaron Judge has had a season like few other
and one of these two guys is going to be
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the runner up for this thing unless they.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Have a top.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah. No, he's got such fast hands. That was the
thing that struck me about His swing gets through the
hitting zone. I mean, it's just remarkable. You can see
how he generates that that. Here's one for you. What
if you were to trade the best pitcher for the
best hitter. Well, if we traded Derek Derek's Scooble to
the New York Yankees and got Aaron Judge.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Any day, any day, sign me up. And I love
Terrek Scooble. But but he's pitching.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
What's the downside?
Speaker 1 (06:21):
He's pitching twenty percent of the games, right, Yeah, Aaron
Judge is out there and he can play one hundred
and fifty times, not thirty one or thirty two, and
he can impact the game in so many more ways.
You know, the thing that's most amazing about Aaron Judge
isn't his home run power. How many times he walks
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and the Tigers could use a few more walks.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Oh my goodness. Well, young mister Harris was developing that
theme at his presser yesterday when he talked about how
the Tiger's got got away from being kind hacked hitters
and all of a sudden trying to hit home runs.
And he did say, well, he said a number of
things that were interesting. Was the one that stuck with me.
If you go back a calendar year from late August
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of twenty twenty four to late August of this year,
no organization in baseball, no major League baseball team had
more wins than the Detroit Tigers. Yeah, and I think
he phrased thatch Ray. He said, that's an epic achievement.
And it is. It's just, you know, the timing of
the thing is such. It hasn't translated into the postseason
success that everybody wants to see, but it's still something
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to think about.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I think it's also maybe some camouflage to cover up
some questionable decisions made by Tiger's management. And I don't
just mean the manager. So there's that issue. I want
to talk about the Detroit Lions for a minute, and
what we saw Sunday night. First of all, it's amazing
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to me that they're playing Thursday night Sunday night. I mean,
it used to be a lock to play at one
o'clock on Sunday. It shows so you know what the
organization was. But here they are all over the place.
So go into Kansas City and the chief said, wait
a minute, we're not dead yet.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
We're going to show you how this game is played.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Well, Jack, your Detroit correspondent has let you down during
the game. On during the game on Sunday, I fell asleep.
You are you're talking?
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Well you you know it's it's you. I wouldn't falling asleep.
It was one o'clock on a Sunday. But now on
a Sunday I do, and things are going so well.
When I fell asleep, the lines were at ten to six.
The offensive line, especially the left side, was holding up nicely.
Sojared Goff had that cream pocket we always talk about.
So I'm thinking, you know, he'll put up four or fifty,
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whatever it takes. I know the secondary for the lines
was problematic, but nevertheless, so I text a friend the
next morning, you know, how do we make out? And
they said we lost, and I was get surprised because
that's not thing for willing hand. I did, Jack, I
did go back and watch the rest on tape, et cetera,
et cetera. You know, not quite the same, But no
losing on the road to a two time Super Bowl champion.
(09:11):
I think you can move on. I don't think it's
gonna you know, torpedo your season.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Hey, Rob, now I think we figured this out. We're
wondering what happened Sunday night. kN Kate fell asleep and
that turned everything. But now the now, the Lions, with
injured corners, a free safety who is hobbling, and a
strong safety who's in trouble with the NFL for the
(09:37):
eighth eighth time and is suspended for a game, has
to go up against Tampa Bay team that has already
won four games by three points or less and probably
has the MVP at this point in Baker Mayfield. You know,
Lions haven't lost back to back games Rich since I
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October of twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Is that about to change?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Wow? You know I'm saying the praises of Baker Mayfield.
There's no denying that. I mean, we've talked about this
where this is a guy who had a chance at
the National Football League level to develop his skills. And
we used to say it took five years for a
college quarterback to become an effective pro quarterback. We alway,
that was a mantra when I was growing up. But now,
of course, you know you're number one draft, you're playing that,
(10:27):
you're playing, you know, come to fall. But he did. Yeah,
he's turned into a terrific quarterback. Boy, because Cleveland muse
a guy like that right now? Eh, And yeah, it's
it's it'll be a challenge. The whole thing was well,
the secondary just sounds like a complete disaster.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
So I want to ask both of you. Rob, I
want to start with you. Who wins the game Monday
night at Ford Field.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Wow, I'm going to go Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Okay, Well, truth be told, Boston. Rob is not a
New England Patriots fan. He loves all the Boston teams
except the Patriots. He is a Tampa baby.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
If it's close in the fourth quarter, If it's close
in the fourth quarter, Baker Mayfield, That's all I need
to say.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Okay, okay, Rich who wins money?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Now I'm scoffing, I'm scoffing over here. If it comes
out of the fourth quarter, what's the game on the line,
of course it goes to Jared Goff. I'm upset about that,
but yeah, it may welcome down. It may well be
a situation like that where it comes out of the
down to the fourth quarter. But in a late inning
pressure situation. I'm going to take cured golf Matt Stafford
and you know what's lot Baker proved himself in those
(11:41):
situations a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
How much fun do you think Baker Mayfield is having
right now? Rich looking at Lion's game tape.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I he was featured. They did the ABS training camp
show Hard Knocks. They did Cleveland the year Baker Mayfield
was a rookie, and I grew to like him. You know,
this kid that's coming in getting him all it's not
seemed to still be levels but as having they showed
him signing his contract for you know, fifty million dollars
(12:11):
or whatever you know happened to be. Yeah, but he
still seemed like a decent guy. And this sounds weird,
but I liked him in those insurance commercials where he
was living at at Cleveland Brown Stadium. There Yeah, it
just stuff like that which has nothing to do with football.
I understand that, but I've kind of been full of
you when you when you get involved with something like that.
(12:32):
You know, just through watching the TV show, you kind
of keep prack of him. You know, he's been bouncing
around here a little bit, but he's home in Tampa Bay.
And yeah, it'll be a terrific football game. But yeah,
if it's close.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Jared goft Man, Yeah, well we'll see if Aiden Hutchinson
can make his presence felt and introduce himself to mister Mayfield.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I would like to go back and read the postgame
notes for the development Steam News. This sort of thing
not to read this week after the lost to Kansas City,
except for one instructor is interesting. I'm around Saint Brown,
who hasn't been around that long. Is now that he's
about number three in the Alliance all time receiving loss.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
He dropped the past Sunday, and every time the ball
he doesn't just velcrow to his hands.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
You're shocked.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yep, yep. He's a beauty.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
All right, So.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Rich we talked about this briefly yesterday, but heading into
the weekend, okay, with the Tigers and Schoobel on the
mound and a chance to go to the Alcs, with
the Lions having a chance to beat Kansas City and
arrowhead again with Michigan State favored to win a game
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by more than a touchdown against UCLA and Michigan going
out there and they're determined to make this Michigan West,
as they kept talking about out at the LA Coliseum.
Who would have thought that the only bright lights we
had for the weekend would be the Detroit Red Wings
and ms U volleyball.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Wow, and I get a great NaNs Sunday and I too,
so let's throw that in as well. But well, the
Runways laid a total egg in their home and their
opener last Wednesday night, you know, at the gaming point
to all summer along. It's the opener, it's a sell out.
Montreal's and down and they were just awful. You know,
it's got to be five to one every serious. Then
(14:28):
they turn around two nights that beat Tomorrow and then
yesterday beat Toronto again, and uh so, so happy good
start for you for the Red Wings.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Montreal.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, I mean on paper, you know, I mean Montreal
maybe maybe way improved, you know, but yeah, definitely, Trota
would be considered the start club at.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
This point, Rob, who's better the may Po Lice are
the Canadians.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Why would you make Boston? Rob pick that nonsense, I'll
go I mean, I agree, I mean Montreal is an
up and coming team, But Toronto right now, when you
look at the talent they have from top to bottom,
I'd go with Toronto over Montreal. Don't ever ask me
that again.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, well, Jack, I want to point out that when
we were doing a Red Wing season preview last week,
I said, the most important thing is, of course, goaltending,
all right, So Gibson or the Red Wings. Apart from that,
I have over the summer started on opening night, got
pulled in the second period, has not seen the ice since.
Cam Talvert has played all the medicine goals since then.
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So potential storm cloud brewing there, because if Gibson is
not terrific, to Redends are not going to be terrific.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
So we have the Edmonton Oilers coming into Little Caesars
Arena Sunday afternoon, and that means I coward coming in, right.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
You got me on this one. Who's I coward?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Well, he's a Hobie Baker Award winner, a guy who
uh from Michigan State and the guy who a lot
of Spartans thought might stick around for another year, and
now he's got a chance to win a Stanley Cup
with the Oilers and Connor McDavid. He's not playing on
that line, but he's playing a lot, and you know,
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he's doing very well, I think as an NHL rookie.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Well there you go, three games into his career, you know.
So yeah, the Runners have got five rookies in the
lineup right now, which is unusual. Two of our twenty
year olds. Two others have hyphenated names, and I haven't
quite caught on yet, but I will, I will, I.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Promise so well talk about hyphenated names and Rich you
will appreciate this because you had to call some of
these names. But I felt very sorry for Mike Vitally
and he was doing the press box PA Saturday at
Spartan Stadium. Good luck trying to pronounce these U c
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l A names. I mean, they have the pronunciation guide
here on the flip card that they handed out, and
you know, you can imagine some of the variations here.
But if you didn't know, you didn't have this fanatic guide.
You would sound like an imbecile with all of these
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Samoan names.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Well, there's that and the hyphenated names that are really
going to kill us. It's fair enough when it's Smith's
Jones passed Williams Daniels. You know right now, what's going
to happen when people with hyphenated names get married and
they become Smith Jones and Daniel Washington Johnson.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Yeah, we need to return to common censor. Jack, That's
all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
You were not down at the press conference with Scott
Harris and aj Hinchware or were you?
Speaker 4 (18:01):
No?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
I was not, but I did. I watched the feed.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Yeah, what did you think? How did they do?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
He wouldn't talk about school's contract status, okay, which you
know we can't. What can you say you can't. I
actually liked his explanation for why they didn't make a
deal for a hitter at the trade deadline, which was
that they felt that the fans had been more upset
if they made a deal, given the quality of the
hitters that were available to them and the price that
they would have commanded. They were talking about a position player,
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for example, that was on the divisional series roster and
a number one draft was you know, that's sort of
a situation, and he just didn't. I felt he was
being honest. I know he was being honest and right
off the top, and he said, we all wish we
were in Toronto, followed by an ellipse, you know, getting
ready for the game too tonight, YadA, yadi.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
And Toronto. The Red Wings were in Toronto and they did.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Well, that's that's absolutely right. And what a thing it
would have been had the Red Wings have been doing
well in Toronto, Yes, and then the Tigers would follow
that up with the game against the Blue Days. What
we would have been terrific.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
But you know, you know what I thought the press
conference was, and I mentioned took apudo that I wanted
to hear a direct question, and I didn't hear it.
I thought that as Scott Harris was rationalizing, and I
think he was trying to say, well, you know, you
wouldn't have wanted this. I think most fans want to
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go for it. It's kind of the Dan Campbell attitude.
You don't know if you're going to have a chance
to come back. It's nice to try to be the
team of the twenty thirties, and the Tigers have a
farm system which is at the top in Major League Baseball.
They're gonna be fine if they had traded their number
four or number five prospect for someone who might have
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been an advantage for them. Trying to witness thing instead.
When Scott hear Us at the trade deadline said well,
you know, we don't look at it in terms of windows, Well,
he's going to be looking through the window when Trek
Scooba leaves. So I would have wanted to hear in
retrospect a little bit more about that, and I didn't.
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Didn't hear that address the way I hoped.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, and Pam was talking about it too. The quality
of the questions that are asked a press conferences. Yeah,
and I think I take a bit of a harsh
review than Pat does. I think a lot of times
people are afraid to ask questions because they're afraid to
lose access, you know, Yes, And it's it's just I
think anybody in the business will tell you this that
it's so much different now than I used to do.
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You see the game it over. You just go into
the locker room, start stick a microphone in front of
guys and start talking. You know. Now they bring them
out the interview room. It's very sanitized out there. You
used to sit around, so I was for the game.
The Major League Baseball managers would gather reporters either in
their office or in the dugout, and you'd sit around
and shoot the fat with a man nager for forty
five minutes. Yeah, you know, I don't think.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I don't like a situation rich where the media members
are trying to be stars. Okay, they're trying to get
some poplicity for being a tough guy. I know, But
I think you can ask a direct question without being prosecutorial.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
When Matt Patricia coached the Lions, I was in the
press room for every one of his home losses, and
there were a lot of them, okay, And after each
and every one, the first word out it was a
mouth or near the first would be we got to coach,
we got to coach better, you know, And towards the
end it was hard for me not to say, one,
can we ask the question one can we expect to
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see that begin? Is that a fair question? Or is
it me trying to be a star, or you know,
is it too is it two nastic quests in a setting.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
The best question I've ever heard of the press conference
and it led to some action. Was the two thousand
and to Michigan State Michigan game and the Spartans got smacked.
And afterward Mickey York asked Bobby Williams, have you lost
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this team? Five words? And he didn't ask it to
try to get on the national news. He just asked
it because it looked like, you know, this was a
train wreck. And when Bobby Williams said I don't know,
that was the end of his stay as Michigan State's coach.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah. No, that's a tough question, but it's it's tough affair,
it's a fair it's a you know, take a lot
of guts to ask a question like that. I think
it's a hell of a question. I wish I'd asked
it myself.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah, yeah, Rich, thanks so much for joining us. I
don't know if I will see you Monday at Ford
Field or I'll see you at the the Michigan Michigan
State game here on the twenty fifth.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
I will see you soon. We'll look forward to talking
to you next week.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
That's worry kid. Thanks Jack, game.
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Speaker 4 (00:30):
They're making friends.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I want to stay right here, Rob and welcome in
Archie Troit correspondent or man for All Sports, rich Kin
caid Rich.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
You heard some of.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
The comments from Pat Kapudo, Sure, Kenny that you disagree
with about guys who are going to be gone or
what this Tiger's team needs for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Well, you know, I'll just go back and start talking
about last Friday night. I want to talk about Pat
at some point I remember, and I'm sure he does.
Two to night, I was chasing Marannie Ice after he
humiliated me during a.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Hockey team Yeah right he did.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
He was pats a bit of a pylon out there,
but he goes from fifteen feet in. He was money.
I couldn't stop the guy. He's scored more goals on me.
Some guys got the pucket the point, I'm having a
really bad night. I'm down ten nothing, ten to one whatever.
I'm just getting lit right and the kampooters are increasing.
He goes, how gonna you give it up tonight? Ten?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
You know?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
And I turned to stare at him or maybe hit
him with my blocker, and just as I turned right,
they guy at the point shoot and it goes right
between my legs and Kiputera goes, oh eleven then and
I threw it down my blocker and I threw it
down my glove and I sort of chased the marne
ice and somebody says, somebody said, what are you going
to do if you catch him? So there you go.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I would have loved to see that one when you
guys threw down. That would have been great.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Let's let's talk about school. If he shouldn't come out
for that seventh getting I you know, I'm down with
the game. Has changed. You know, we can all talk
about Jack for us, and you know he fought for
the baseball, you know, but it is different now and
essentially earlier today. Of School's last five starts this season,
all of them in the playoffs or you know, key
(02:11):
clinching games that sort of like the like the series
decider in Cleveland for example, And you see twelve strikeouts,
thirteen strikeouts, fourteen strikeouts in these outings, and then you
look at the bottom. Tigers were one and four in
those starts. So the reason the Tigers lost Friday was
at Kyle Finnegan walked the leadoff guy in the seventh
inning when the Tigers had a two to one lead.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, maybe to that guy in the well.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
But you know, baseball Jack, I think what it would
have happened is if Scooba comes out and works the eighth,
Finnegan comes out, walks the lead up guy, Ethan, he
comes around the scores of Tiger right. It was just
this game was the greatest baseball game I've ever seen
involving the Detroit Tigers. This was the Tigers version of
Game six of the nineteen seventy five World Series Boston
and Cincinnati. The Bernie Carver home run to tie it
(02:59):
up in the eighth I think the three run shot,
and then of course Carlson fifth game winner. What was
that the fourteenth inning? Something like that. You know, this
was the Tiger's version of that. It was one of
the greatest baseball games ever played.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Should write a book about it.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Having written absolutely books, someone should just write about that night. Sure, yeah,
amazing and so yeah, so how do you explain the
Seattle Mariners now and Jorge october is just going crazy
(03:36):
in the postseason. This is not Placido Polanco. This is
Jorge Polanco and Seattle, which could barely scrape itself onto
the plane to fly to Ontario, is heading back to
Washington State, or is back now with a pair of wins,
(03:56):
and they're two more. They may not have to go
back to Eastern Canada. They may be headed right to
the World Series.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Well, you want me, you want me to explain that?
I can only do you know, you're limited to pat
computer to twenty five words to us in one of
his responses, I can do it in one sports you know.
That's you can't predict that. That's why I don't gamble
on this stuff. Oh my God, yeah, I mean that
would that seemed like a dead solid locks. That's wile
beating Saddle in Game one for all reasons listed above.
(04:28):
But you know there's something I must be something to
be set for adrenaline and the playoffs so and have
have not? The playoffs been great as usual?
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah absolutely And for someone who you know, I don't
sit and watch all the Tigers games every inning, but
when we get into this postseason drama, I mean, you
can't have a script. Aaron Sorkin couldn't write something any
better than this, And oh you're sitting there watching guys
(04:59):
rise to the moment rich. I mean I saw two
throws Friday night as good as any throw I have
ever seen from a catcher, first cal Rally then Dylan Dingler.
And to think of what cal Rally has done this season.
I mean, now, he's got sixty two home runs, but
(05:19):
gold Glove defense, and he was hitting for average against Detroit.
He wasn't trying to put the ball in the seats.
He was an absolute clinic for what Riley Green should do.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
And it's situational hitting.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
It Sometimes, yeah, you can hit a home run, but
you don't have to try to do it every swing
and to watch what he has done. I mean, I
wouldn't want to have a vote for American League MVP
because Aaron Judge has had a season like few other
and one of these two guys is going to be
(05:52):
the runner up for this thing unless they.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Have a top.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah. No, he's got such fast hands. That was the
thing that struck me about His swing gets through the
hitting zone. I mean, it's just remarkable. You can see
how he generates that that. Here's one for you. What
if you were to trade the best pitcher for the
best hitter. Well, if we traded Derek Derek's Scooble to
the New York Yankees and got Aaron Judge.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Any day, any day, sign me up. And I love
Terrek Scooble. But but he's pitching.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
What's the downside?
Speaker 1 (06:21):
He's pitching twenty percent of the games, right, Yeah, Aaron
Judge is out there and he can play one hundred
and fifty times, not thirty one or thirty two, and
he can impact the game in so many more ways.
You know, the thing that's most amazing about Aaron Judge
isn't his home run power. How many times he walks
(06:45):
and the Tigers could use a few more walks.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Oh my goodness. Well, young mister Harris was developing that
theme at his presser yesterday when he talked about how
the Tiger's got got away from being kind hacked hitters
and all of a sudden trying to hit home runs.
And he did say, well, he said a number of
things that were interesting. Was the one that stuck with me.
If you go back a calendar year from late August
(07:09):
of twenty twenty four to late August of this year,
no organization in baseball, no major League baseball team had
more wins than the Detroit Tigers. Yeah, and I think
he phrased thatch Ray. He said, that's an epic achievement.
And it is. It's just, you know, the timing of
the thing is such. It hasn't translated into the postseason
success that everybody wants to see, but it's still something
(07:31):
to think about.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I think it's also maybe some camouflage to cover up
some questionable decisions made by Tiger's management. And I don't
just mean the manager. So there's that issue. I want
to talk about the Detroit Lions for a minute, and
what we saw Sunday night. First of all, it's amazing
(07:56):
to me that they're playing Thursday night Sunday night. I mean,
it used to be a lock to play at one
o'clock on Sunday. It shows so you know what the
organization was. But here they are all over the place.
So go into Kansas City and the chief said, wait
a minute, we're not dead yet.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
We're going to show you how this game is played.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Well, Jack, your Detroit correspondent has let you down during
the game. On during the game on Sunday, I fell asleep.
You are you're talking?
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Well you you know it's it's you. I wouldn't falling asleep.
It was one o'clock on a Sunday. But now on
a Sunday I do, and things are going so well.
When I fell asleep, the lines were at ten to six.
The offensive line, especially the left side, was holding up nicely.
Sojared Goff had that cream pocket we always talk about.
So I'm thinking, you know, he'll put up four or fifty,
(08:50):
whatever it takes. I know the secondary for the lines
was problematic, but nevertheless, so I text a friend the
next morning, you know, how do we make out? And
they said we lost, and I was get surprised because
that's not thing for willing hand. I did, Jack, I
did go back and watch the rest on tape, et cetera,
et cetera. You know, not quite the same, But no
losing on the road to a two time Super Bowl champion.
(09:11):
I think you can move on. I don't think it's
gonna you know, torpedo your season.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Hey, Rob, now I think we figured this out. We're
wondering what happened Sunday night. kN Kate fell asleep and
that turned everything. But now the now, the Lions, with
injured corners, a free safety who is hobbling, and a
strong safety who's in trouble with the NFL for the
(09:37):
eighth eighth time and is suspended for a game, has
to go up against Tampa Bay team that has already
won four games by three points or less and probably
has the MVP at this point in Baker Mayfield. You know,
Lions haven't lost back to back games Rich since I
(10:00):
October of twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Is that about to change?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Wow? You know I'm saying the praises of Baker Mayfield.
There's no denying that. I mean, we've talked about this
where this is a guy who had a chance at
the National Football League level to develop his skills. And
we used to say it took five years for a
college quarterback to become an effective pro quarterback. We alway,
that was a mantra when I was growing up. But now,
of course, you know you're number one draft, you're playing that,
(10:27):
you're playing, you know, come to fall. But he did. Yeah,
he's turned into a terrific quarterback. Boy, because Cleveland muse
a guy like that right now? Eh, And yeah, it's
it's it'll be a challenge. The whole thing was well,
the secondary just sounds like a complete disaster.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
So I want to ask both of you. Rob, I
want to start with you. Who wins the game Monday
night at Ford Field.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Wow, I'm going to go Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Okay, Well, truth be told, Boston. Rob is not a
New England Patriots fan. He loves all the Boston teams
except the Patriots. He is a Tampa baby.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
If it's close in the fourth quarter, If it's close
in the fourth quarter, Baker Mayfield, That's all I need
to say.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Okay, okay, Rich who wins money?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Now I'm scoffing, I'm scoffing over here. If it comes
out of the fourth quarter, what's the game on the line,
of course it goes to Jared Goff. I'm upset about that,
but yeah, it may welcome down. It may well be
a situation like that where it comes out of the
down to the fourth quarter. But in a late inning
pressure situation. I'm going to take cured golf Matt Stafford
and you know what's lot Baker proved himself in those
(11:41):
situations a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
How much fun do you think Baker Mayfield is having
right now? Rich looking at Lion's game tape.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I he was featured. They did the ABS training camp
show Hard Knocks. They did Cleveland the year Baker Mayfield
was a rookie, and I grew to like him. You know,
this kid that's coming in getting him all it's not
seemed to still be levels but as having they showed
him signing his contract for you know, fifty million dollars
(12:11):
or whatever you know happened to be. Yeah, but he
still seemed like a decent guy. And this sounds weird,
but I liked him in those insurance commercials where he
was living at at Cleveland Brown Stadium. There Yeah, it
just stuff like that which has nothing to do with football.
I understand that, but I've kind of been full of
you when you when you get involved with something like that.
(12:32):
You know, just through watching the TV show, you kind
of keep prack of him. You know, he's been bouncing
around here a little bit, but he's home in Tampa Bay.
And yeah, it'll be a terrific football game. But yeah,
if it's close.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Jared goft Man, Yeah, well we'll see if Aiden Hutchinson
can make his presence felt and introduce himself to mister Mayfield.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I would like to go back and read the postgame
notes for the development Steam News. This sort of thing
not to read this week after the lost to Kansas City,
except for one instructor is interesting. I'm around Saint Brown,
who hasn't been around that long. Is now that he's
about number three in the Alliance all time receiving loss.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
He dropped the past Sunday, and every time the ball
he doesn't just velcrow to his hands.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
You're shocked.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yep, yep. He's a beauty.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
All right, So.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Rich we talked about this briefly yesterday, but heading into
the weekend, okay, with the Tigers and Schoobel on the
mound and a chance to go to the Alcs, with
the Lions having a chance to beat Kansas City and
arrowhead again with Michigan State favored to win a game
(13:46):
by more than a touchdown against UCLA and Michigan going
out there and they're determined to make this Michigan West,
as they kept talking about out at the LA Coliseum.
Who would have thought that the only bright lights we
had for the weekend would be the Detroit Red Wings
and ms U volleyball.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Wow, and I get a great NaNs Sunday and I too,
so let's throw that in as well. But well, the
Runways laid a total egg in their home and their
opener last Wednesday night, you know, at the gaming point
to all summer along. It's the opener, it's a sell out.
Montreal's and down and they were just awful. You know,
it's got to be five to one every serious. Then
(14:28):
they turn around two nights that beat Tomorrow and then
yesterday beat Toronto again, and uh so, so happy good
start for you for the Red Wings.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Montreal.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, I mean on paper, you know, I mean Montreal
maybe maybe way improved, you know, but yeah, definitely, Trota
would be considered the start club at.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
This point, Rob, who's better the may Po Lice are
the Canadians.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Why would you make Boston? Rob pick that nonsense, I'll
go I mean, I agree, I mean Montreal is an
up and coming team, But Toronto right now, when you
look at the talent they have from top to bottom,
I'd go with Toronto over Montreal. Don't ever ask me
that again.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, well, Jack, I want to point out that when
we were doing a Red Wing season preview last week,
I said, the most important thing is, of course, goaltending,
all right, So Gibson or the Red Wings. Apart from that,
I have over the summer started on opening night, got
pulled in the second period, has not seen the ice since.
Cam Talvert has played all the medicine goals since then.
(15:38):
So potential storm cloud brewing there, because if Gibson is
not terrific, to Redends are not going to be terrific.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
So we have the Edmonton Oilers coming into Little Caesars
Arena Sunday afternoon, and that means I coward coming in, right.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
You got me on this one. Who's I coward?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Well, he's a Hobie Baker Award winner, a guy who
uh from Michigan State and the guy who a lot
of Spartans thought might stick around for another year, and
now he's got a chance to win a Stanley Cup
with the Oilers and Connor McDavid. He's not playing on
that line, but he's playing a lot, and you know,
(16:25):
he's doing very well, I think as an NHL rookie.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Well there you go, three games into his career, you know.
So yeah, the Runners have got five rookies in the
lineup right now, which is unusual. Two of our twenty
year olds. Two others have hyphenated names, and I haven't
quite caught on yet, but I will, I will, I.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Promise so well talk about hyphenated names and Rich you
will appreciate this because you had to call some of
these names. But I felt very sorry for Mike Vitally
and he was doing the press box PA Saturday at
Spartan Stadium. Good luck trying to pronounce these U c
(17:07):
l A names. I mean, they have the pronunciation guide
here on the flip card that they handed out, and
you know, you can imagine some of the variations here.
But if you didn't know, you didn't have this fanatic guide.
You would sound like an imbecile with all of these
(17:28):
Samoan names.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Well, there's that and the hyphenated names that are really
going to kill us. It's fair enough when it's Smith's
Jones passed Williams Daniels. You know right now, what's going
to happen when people with hyphenated names get married and
they become Smith Jones and Daniel Washington Johnson.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Yeah, we need to return to common censor. Jack, That's
all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
You were not down at the press conference with Scott
Harris and aj Hinchware or were you?
Speaker 4 (18:01):
No?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
I was not, but I did. I watched the feed.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Yeah, what did you think? How did they do?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
He wouldn't talk about school's contract status, okay, which you
know we can't. What can you say you can't. I
actually liked his explanation for why they didn't make a
deal for a hitter at the trade deadline, which was
that they felt that the fans had been more upset
if they made a deal, given the quality of the
hitters that were available to them and the price that
they would have commanded. They were talking about a position player,
(18:33):
for example, that was on the divisional series roster and
a number one draft was you know, that's sort of
a situation, and he just didn't. I felt he was
being honest. I know he was being honest and right
off the top, and he said, we all wish we
were in Toronto, followed by an ellipse, you know, getting
ready for the game too tonight, YadA, yadi.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
And Toronto. The Red Wings were in Toronto and they did.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Well, that's that's absolutely right. And what a thing it
would have been had the Red Wings have been doing
well in Toronto, Yes, and then the Tigers would follow
that up with the game against the Blue Days. What
we would have been terrific.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
But you know, you know what I thought the press
conference was, and I mentioned took apudo that I wanted
to hear a direct question, and I didn't hear it.
I thought that as Scott Harris was rationalizing, and I
think he was trying to say, well, you know, you
wouldn't have wanted this. I think most fans want to
(19:32):
go for it. It's kind of the Dan Campbell attitude.
You don't know if you're going to have a chance
to come back. It's nice to try to be the
team of the twenty thirties, and the Tigers have a
farm system which is at the top in Major League Baseball.
They're gonna be fine if they had traded their number
four or number five prospect for someone who might have
(19:53):
been an advantage for them. Trying to witness thing instead.
When Scott hear Us at the trade deadline said well,
you know, we don't look at it in terms of windows, Well,
he's going to be looking through the window when Trek
Scooba leaves. So I would have wanted to hear in
retrospect a little bit more about that, and I didn't.
(20:17):
Didn't hear that address the way I hoped.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, and Pam was talking about it too. The quality
of the questions that are asked a press conferences. Yeah,
and I think I take a bit of a harsh
review than Pat does. I think a lot of times
people are afraid to ask questions because they're afraid to
lose access, you know, Yes, And it's it's just I
think anybody in the business will tell you this that
it's so much different now than I used to do.
(20:41):
You see the game it over. You just go into
the locker room, start stick a microphone in front of
guys and start talking. You know. Now they bring them
out the interview room. It's very sanitized out there. You
used to sit around, so I was for the game.
The Major League Baseball managers would gather reporters either in
their office or in the dugout, and you'd sit around
and shoot the fat with a man nager for forty
five minutes. Yeah, you know, I don't think.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I don't like a situation rich where the media members
are trying to be stars. Okay, they're trying to get
some poplicity for being a tough guy. I know, But
I think you can ask a direct question without being prosecutorial.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
When Matt Patricia coached the Lions, I was in the
press room for every one of his home losses, and
there were a lot of them, okay, And after each
and every one, the first word out it was a
mouth or near the first would be we got to coach,
we got to coach better, you know, And towards the
end it was hard for me not to say, one,
can we ask the question one can we expect to
(21:42):
see that begin? Is that a fair question? Or is
it me trying to be a star, or you know,
is it too is it two nastic quests in a setting.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
The best question I've ever heard of the press conference
and it led to some action. Was the two thousand
and to Michigan State Michigan game and the Spartans got smacked.
And afterward Mickey York asked Bobby Williams, have you lost
(22:15):
this team? Five words? And he didn't ask it to
try to get on the national news. He just asked
it because it looked like, you know, this was a
train wreck. And when Bobby Williams said I don't know,
that was the end of his stay as Michigan State's coach.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah. No, that's a tough question, but it's it's tough affair,
it's a fair it's a you know, take a lot
of guts to ask a question like that. I think
it's a hell of a question. I wish I'd asked
it myself.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah, yeah, Rich, thanks so much for joining us. I
don't know if I will see you Monday at Ford
Field or I'll see you at the the Michigan Michigan
State game here on the twenty fifth.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
I will see you soon. We'll look forward to talking
to you next week.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
That's worry kid. Thanks Jack, game.
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