* Stephen Brooks, MSU Beat Writer for 247Sports

Episode Transcript

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Have to grab your hat.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
We have tons to talk about today and some great
guests to do that with. I want to start out
as we do almost every Wednesday with Steven Brooks from
twenty four to seven Sports Spartan teal Gate Premium site. Stephen,
I wanted to take all fifteen or twenty minutes and
just talk to you about World Series Game seven, but

(01:19):
we're going to pass on that. Okay, you did watch it,
which I wasn't sure you could bring yourself to do.
When you got to Buffalo Wild Wings after Michigan State's
overtime loss to Minnesota, you weren't bitching that they needed
to change the channel. You were actually watching some high.

Speaker 5 (01:35):
Drama, you know, Jack, That's what the NBA was for.
You weren't supposed to tell people I was watching baseball.
So you're in violation of our deal and you will
be hearing from my attorneys. So thanks for that.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Let's talk about the game ahead of that. I thought
Michigan State's best performance of the year win or lose,
the first of their six straight losses where you can say.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
They should have won.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
There were others where you could say they could have won,
but this was a game when they clearly beat themselves.
With the ten penalties in Minnesota had two, you can
question the officiating. I think a lot of people would Nonetheless,
Michigan State was its own worst enemy. And I don't

(02:22):
know how with a seven point lead in less than
two minutes to go in the game, with one hundred
and sixty foot wide field, you kick the ball out
of bounce.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
Yeah, it was an interesting weekend out there, you know,
I mean, naturally coming out just the way the season's going,
coming up the Michigan game. You know, my eyes were
kind of tuned to looking for effort and let down
and give and whatnot.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
And obviously you.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
Change a quarterback that's sort of a bit of a
natural spark, and the something's happened there. I mean, they
outgained them by a time, but bottom money, we didn't
see that. You know, they did compete defensively, They probably
put together a winning performance, you know, much like I
thought against Michigan. They probably played good enough to win.
It's not going to go you know, uh up on
the walls of the facility, but.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Good enough to win.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
So didn't get enough finishing out of their offense. Some
some really timely mistakes that this program has been good at,
you know.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
The last few years. Unfortunately for them.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
Yeah, when that kickoff went out of bounds, I just
kind of felt to my gut like this isn't going
to add well. Even though the defense had been playing well. Uh,
they left them enough time and on their home field,
you just you could feel it coming. And it's and
that's kind of the whole issue with this team and
in program. Right as you expect the worst, you can
kind of feel that that dark cloud looming or at

(03:44):
least you know, on the horizon. So that that all
played out out there. But the bottom line, I think
is that they they've competed well, They're still they were
still putting forth effort that day. It's going to continue
to be a thing that you have to watch, I think,
in this era with this team, with the with this season.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
But you know, they checked the box there.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
They battled well, just some breaks and some for execution.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Steven, good teams tend to win those kinds of games,
and bad teams often lose them. But I agree with
you about the defense. I thought it was definitely the
best defensive effort of the year.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
And I asked Jonathan Smith this question.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
He kind of said, well, it doesn't really matter, you know,
it cuts both ways. But I thought Joe Rossi seemed
to know what Minnesota wanted to do. Maybe not the plays,
but certainly having worked for the Gophers and with PJ.
Fleck for so long, he was a step ahead.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:49):
Yeah, I think we didn't see the big bus, you know,
in the back end as much, and maybe in Minnesotas
wasn't really capable of it. But yeah, just you know,
Nickai Martinez ha been back for a little bit now,
not fresh coffee injury. He's got some snaps to him.
I think that helped.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
You know, Jordan Hall was was.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
Emptying the tank out there, like every time he got
up off the field, he was limping or grabbing at something.
Still played pretty well. Not perfect by any of them,
you know, they let the big run out and whatnot.
They give up the last drive obviously to give up
the game winning.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Score, but pretty good across the board for them.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
I mean, a shut out for most of the second
half there, pretty pretty good effort overall.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
And yeah, I just the other thing is tooth.

Speaker 5 (05:30):
I don't think Minnesota is that good, you know, when
you talk about shutting them down or knowing what they
want to do, right, I don't think they can really
hurt you that bad. But that's the other tough part.
If your Michigan State and you're going, man, we're on
a six game losing streak, and that team is they're
six and three, I believe now right, you know, And
that just shows you, like a couple of breaks here
or there, you know, and how you really needed to
finish that in Nebraska game, really really really needed to

(05:52):
win that UCLA game, and hey, you had your shot
against Michigan, some things didn't go your way or whatever.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
But you know, it just shows you the margins in
this conference.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
At that Minnesota team at six and three and they celebrated,
go into a bowl. Maybe they'll get to seven or
eight even you know, I mean, that could very well
be Michigan State. We wouldn't even be talking about this
big picture stuff until, you know, a couple of weeks
from now, we have nothing else to talk about. So
I think that's an interesting comparison to.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
What did you make of Alessio Milavoievic. There was a
lot of speculation that we would see him. Didn't know
that we would see him for all but play at
the end of the first half one he had to
get checked out according to the Big Ten. But other
than that, it was his show and he got scraped

(06:39):
himself off the ground a lot in the first half
with those six sacks overall, how would you assess his performance?

Speaker 5 (06:48):
Yeah, pretty good, good enough to see more. It wasn't
that immediate, you know, twisting your gut like you know,
we eat some weird you know, or something's under cookie like,
oh no, right away. It was definitely wasn't that. He
didn't blow my socks off. I don't think he's a
second coming or anything like that, but enough to enough.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
To see more for sure. I mean you mentioned I
like this toughness.

Speaker 5 (07:08):
That's the number one thing coming out of that, I think,
because you see a guy who's young, he's tough, competitive,
willing to battle and hang in there and not just
taking the sacks but on the run play down in
the red zone, which didn't end up working. But hey,
I mean, the guy's in there blowing his shoulder. He
took a couple other hits, so I really like that
part of it. You know, he he does allow, he's

(07:28):
a very quick processor. You see the gears turning, and
when he decides, he decides, and he goes and the
ball's out. It's not ever sometimes ad and Child's almost
acts when you watch him, it's like he's making the
decision up until the very moment the ball leaves his hands. Yeah,
with Alessio, it's boom blocked in target acquired fire. You know,

(07:50):
you can see it happening pretty quick, and so from
the pocket, you know. I think that stuff gives them
a little bit of an edge in terms of utilizing
these receivers that we've talked about all year, But you
do lose the mobility factor I think I was talking
with you about. I am curious how many scoring drives
this year feature in Aiden Childs either run for a
first down or a ten plus yard run. I bet

(08:13):
it's a pretty high correlation there. But didn't hurt him
necessarily this day, So I think we're going to see
him again, even though John Smith didn't commit to that.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
I have a football philosophy, Steven, and it is at
odds with Graham Couches, who does not like running quarterbacks.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
I do.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
And I think when you have an offensive line which
is lackluster or worse, you must have a quarterback who
can do things with his feet. If you don't, then
you are really playing shorthanded. So I like that, and
I don't know whether milavoyevic Is would be adequate in
that department.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
He's certainly not Aiden Childs.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
But I thought he did a really good job of
protecting the football too, and with all those hits, with
the opportunities in Minnesota's defense is known for being aggressive
in the secondary. I think he did a pretty good
job of that. I know, the underthrow to Nick marsh
on the deep ball. He can come back and say, well,

(09:13):
if he throws that thing three feet further and doesn't
make Nick stop and fair catch it, then Michigan State
wins that game easily because they got nothing out of
it after that missed chip shot field goal. But that's
kind of what you expect. I think in the first start,
you're not going to have perfection, and I would agree
with you that he's going to get another chance. My

(09:37):
question is, have we seen the last meaningful snap for
Aiden Childs as Michigan State's quarterback.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
I'm hesitant to say yes. I still think, you know,
like he's got a lot of ability. I think he's
still well liked, he's still a captain, still has deep
relationships with his staff. Not that any of any one
of those things could carry the day, but I think
all of them, you know, and I just I don't
know if Alessia is just gonna light it up to
the point that that you can't, you know, can't take

(10:10):
them off the field. So I could see them kind
of continue to sputter.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Around through these next couple of games.

Speaker 5 (10:15):
To where it's it's they're they're they're in a rough
spot at halftime there they know they don't have any
points on the border. Some let's throw aiding back and
maybe so I haven't say that, yeah sure, or even
you know, I mean, if we're talking even beyond this year,
who knows, you know, you could tell me anything could
happen next year, player, coach wise, anything, and I'd have
to at least buy to a slight degree. So I'm

(10:37):
not gonna say it's over for him yet.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
I talk about next year. A percent chance that Aiden
Chafts will be back for the Spartans.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Yeah, has no idea.

Speaker 5 (10:50):
I mean at this point, I would say less than
fifty percent.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah it feels that way.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
Yeah, yeah, so you know, maybe twenty I guess I
just don't know. I mean, is there a new staff
is or not? What if what if John and Smiths
here and he's not you know what I'm saying, that's
the most intriguing, not necessarily intriguing, but that's an interesting
one to think about, right, But I doubt that's likely either.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
Right exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
And I thought the offensive coaching in this game was
good and bad, unlike the defensive coaching, which was just
I thought good. Certainly, Joe Rossi didn't tell his best
player to get a face mask penalty on the last drive,
and that was an effort play. And and you know,

(11:37):
those I guess those kinds of things happened, seemed to
happen more to losing teams. But uh, there was the
reverse so Olmari Kelly, which was called back on the penalty,
and you know, I thought that was a really well
timed misdirection play, taking advantage of some things. But I
really didn't understand the whole past protection scheme in the

(12:01):
first half. Now you got Minnesota and the one thing
the Gophers can do. Okay, if you said what's Minnesota's
greatest strength, everyone would have said rushed in the passer.
I mean, they sacked Dylan ray Ola nine times in
that game, and they were among the league leaders in
getting to the quarterback. So there were no tunnel screens,

(12:23):
shovel passes, anything which would slow down this heat against
the Swiss.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
Cheese offensive line.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
And I really kind of felt sorry for Alessio in
the first half. It seemed like he was having a
lot of five step drops, you know, seven step drops,
and sometimes he was barely back to his launch point
and someone was shaking hands with him.

Speaker 5 (12:49):
Yeah, that's a good point. We haven't seen the screen
game very much. I mean, you could say basically everything
you just said about Michigan and we didn't see it
much of there either, just in terms of one to
slow down their pass rush. Yeah, we saw a ton
of it against Indiana, which you're like, okay, this all
next sense. I'm wondering if maybe they ran almost everything
they had or close to empty the bag. They don't

(13:11):
want to go back to it too soon, I don't know.
And then you were also down Makai Frazier, you know,
and he's not great at pass protection, but Tullus has
kind of been worse than him.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
To Oliver's Okay, that's probably the best of the bunch.

Speaker 5 (13:24):
But either point is you're down one of your better,
maybe your second best pass throw running back and you're
playing a lot of tennis out there, So yeah, no,
I hadn't considered that. The one that really stretched out
to me was the third down uh toss that this
team just has not executed very well. I think that's
become the new Jets sweep. And you know when Mark'd
Antonio every time they ran.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Jets sweep, you, oh boy, here we go. It's the toss.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
Yeah, the toss sweep for this team this program staff
has become that new play where you're like, oh no.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
And then they.

Speaker 5 (13:55):
Followed up with a rolledout pass to the boundary on
fourth down that was totally covered up and had to
give the ball away in Minnesota territory. That was the
stretch that I oh. And before that, actually they did
the fake they were trying to sneak it and call
the time out on themselves, snapped the ball. They were
snapped it under a leftio's leg in between his legs
of the running back, and I think he was going

(14:16):
to pass it either way.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
They lifted the curtain on their own trick play before.

Speaker 5 (14:20):
They had to in that same sequence, So that that
was the one that stood out.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah, that was ill faded at best. If you think
about Mackai Frasier. Do we know what his injury is, Steven.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
No, I don't. I don't. He was a surprise on
the list.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, he was a surprise, and you know, we all
was here this time of year, especially with teams that
aren't going anywhere. Players are making business decisions. We don't
know that they don't tell us. That tell us a
lot about players who are unavailables up that they are.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
Are you hearing specific names, because I'm starting to.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
I have heard a.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
Few, but he was He's not one I've heard either way.
It's just to be clear, But I've heard a few
names a couple of weeks ago, but he's not one
of them.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Well, it was a surprising absence because he was so
good against Michigan and we had over one hundred yards
rushing in that game, and I didn't know that he
was injured, didn't seem like he was going to be out,
and suddenly he's out. So you know that raises more questions.

(15:43):
Before we let you go, I know you got to run.
I want to talk to you quickly about what you
saw Monday night against one of the best coach teams.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
I think it's ever come into Breslin Center.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
What Matt Langle has done with Colegate five wins in
six years and a pretty tough Patriot League, going into
Carrier Dome and beating Syracuse there back to back years
by twenty seven points and then going back there again
and losing by two.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
He has done amazing things. And he had.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Michigan State tied in the second half before that one flurry.
And I think a lot of people will remember the
Jeremy Fears pass off the backboard for the Cohen car slam.
I think I said it was as loud as he's
ever heard of building.

Speaker 5 (16:34):
Yeah, So I'm trying to be make sure I'm cautious
this year with sort of big picture ideas, just because
of how down I was on last year's team early.
I know I wasn't alone in that, but you know,
they kind of proved us all wrong this. I just
want to give them some space, I guess, before making
any sweeping judgments. But yeah, I don't think it was
a super inspiring game, and a lot of ways that

(16:55):
Colgate might be nice and everything, but just even Michigan
just looking at Michigan State.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
In the back him. Yeah, I said it was going
to be a slow burned season again.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
I think I think it'll probably be slower than I thought. Uh,
these guys gotta I think there was assumed that the
returning seniors are just ready for you know that that
lead from from supporting cast to main cast doesn't always
just happen, you know, with the with the blink of
an eye or you know, flip of a switch. Sometimes
guys are best are Robin and they're not Batman, And

(17:25):
we'll see. I'm not necessarily claiming anything yet, but I
just that those core guys that have to carry him,
the four returners, they all if that's gonna happen and
they're actually gonna do something of significance this year, They're
gonna all have to be comfortable being the guy uh
right in big moments, and none of them have really
been that yet in their career. Jeremy, I guess sort of,

(17:46):
but not really. So I think that's a big thing
to watch here moving forward. You know, they ask some
question marks. Obviously, two guard I didn't think collectively was
a great deal for him, but it's just one game.
But to me, the bigger thing is in terms of
protecting Arc and then the satisfaction of this season.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
All that is, I'm.

Speaker 5 (18:03):
Curious to see what this core for we'll call it,
how well they take on that role of being the
core four as opposed to just being another for them.
I think that's what's really intriguing. Are they ready to
be star players and go to every night?

Speaker 3 (18:17):
You know?

Speaker 5 (18:17):
And I'm not going to say thirty games, but let's
call it twenty six games out of this season where
you have to show up or this season's going to
be a rough one.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Last year, Steven Michigan State shot seventy seven percent better
than that at the line and one of the best
in the nation, certainly could have led the nation in
free throw shooting, and Tom thought they would be every
bit as good this year. I wasn't quite sure about that,
but I thought they'd be very good. They managed to
miss thirty one free throws in a week less than

(18:50):
a week. That's hard to do. If they had just
made their free throws and shot seventy five percent the line,
would we have looked at this a lot differently?

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Probably?

Speaker 5 (19:02):
Yeah, probably, But I still I don't I don't know though.
I mean, there was some there was some real weird stretches. Offensively,
I mean, they could just they could hardly get any
penetration when when Colgate was playing his own it just
didn't look like if they weren't running or getting something
easy and out quick, you know, or offensive rebound obviously
something when they had to play a half court offense,

(19:22):
it did not look great. And then I just think
the two guards on both ends of the floor still
going to be a long term question mark for a while.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Maybe maybe the whole way.

Speaker 5 (19:32):
So I don't know, it would have felt a little better,
but uh, I think there'd still be some concerns and
some cracks. But hey, if you go out and play
well against Arkansas, that's what people remember more.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
So we'll see. You know, they played some weird games
early last year, so we'll see. We'll see.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
But that's kind of where I'm at with it. I've
still I still think, you know, I can't shake some
of the memories of that offense in the half court
right now.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, And we saw last year against Indiana when the
Hoosiers hadn't played any zone and they put in the
zone and Michigan State seemed flummixed.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
Pretty much the same thing here.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
You wouldn't have thought of Colgate as a zone defense team,
but looked like they'd been playing it their whole lives.
And I don't know, maybe Michigan State has to work
on that or drill on it. When they do they
can run effective zone offense, but they they really didn't,
and I thought they had some defensive breakdowns too. They're
going to have to have to really work on. What

(20:30):
do you expect against Arkansas?

Speaker 3 (20:36):
I kind of have a bad feeling. Am I good?

Speaker 5 (20:37):
To be honest, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
I just it was not.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
Very inspiring Monday. I have a hard time. I feel
like these guys are gonna think. I think they're gonna
feel pressure, and I don't know if it's a team
that's built for pressure. Yet we've seen teams that obviously
to come into Bresilan, big matchup, whatever's stakes on them,
and they rise.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Up to it.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
I don't know if this team's been through enough buyers yet. Yeah,
got too many new guys and new new roles, so
I don't know. I mean, I don't just want to
predict that they're just going to get run out of
the gym or anything, but I don't see it going
well necessarily.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yeah, Yeah, I can see why you would say that.
I would say that two seasons, in particular, tom Izzo's first,
when you know they obviously were working progress. They barely
beat Shamanad in Maui, and then they come back and
something called the Grade eight in Detroit and they blow

(21:30):
out Arkansas, which was ironic, but that team that was
a lot of people thought could win a national title,
and a couple of years ago they had the same thing.
Stephen really sluggish starts the season and they get Baylor
in Detroit at Little Caesars and a lot of people
are saying, oh my god, I didn't want to watch this,
and Michigan State led by twenty after like ten minutes.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Yep, I remember that one.

Speaker 5 (21:58):
I just think this seem's going to feel pressure to
make a statement, to sort of show that they're a
new team.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
These guys that are back.

Speaker 5 (22:05):
When I take that step that I just talked about, the.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
New guys want to say, Hey, I'm here to help
all this.

Speaker 5 (22:09):
We're gonna run another Big Ten title, We're gonna play
deep again, we're gonna do all this stuff. Are with
the same teams last year.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Just watch. I think they're gonna feel a lot of that.

Speaker 5 (22:16):
I think there's gonna be some angst in the building
from a bad football season, hoping that they're the saviors.
I don't know, I just don't. I don't have good
vibes about it. That's just my gut and it's been
wrung plenty of times before.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Two things about the game Monday Night, Steven, do you
remember a time that you saw a team with a
thirty seven to six edge and free throw attempts or
more positive things said about a guy who played less
than twenty minutes and was one for four from the field.
But listening to tom Izzo doesn't throw compliments around easily,

(22:50):
or his teammates they love them some.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
Jordan Scott, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
I can't remember a free throw deal like that. Necessarily.

Speaker 5 (22:59):
I'm glad it was dialed back at least a little
bit from the Yukon deal where both teams weren't shooting
thirty something affected basically. But Dan Jordan Scott man arrow
up and has been. You know, every time I see
him on the floor, I'm like, I want to see more.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
I want to see more.

Speaker 5 (23:12):
He just plays hard, he plays smart. That little sequel
you going giveing Gough type sequence with him and Cohler
in the corner was really nice. Led to a Cohler
bucket on the block. He just seems to play within himself,
within the under control and that length and size helps
for sure, and just plays hard and.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Good things happen.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
I think he's going to be a really nice him
in can Ward. I both think are going to look
really good by about mid January.

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