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Speaker 1 (00:00):
As I referenced earlier, with these two teams both in
the top twenty five and Fox Big Noon here, there's
a chance this will be the most watched iteration of
Utah BYU football in one hundred and three years. So
big week, exciting week, and excited to welcome in our
next guest. We tried to connect last week, we had
connection issues because we were on remote.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
So let's bring him in.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Former college quarterback BYU and Utah State friend of the program,
Riley Jensen, Happy Monday, Riley, how are we doing more?
Appreciate your time, man, Appreciate your time. So, look, it's
a huge week. As you know, you played in this rivalry.
You've been around media for a number of years. When
I'd say BYU Utah football, what comes to your mind
right away?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Right away? Two big runs in the rivalry From like
eighty two to ninety two there was a huge like
BYU swing and then from like what oh four to
thirteen or fourteen a huge swing for Utah. And now
it's just everything you want out of a rivalry, right like,
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just man, every single game, every single years, there's some
sort of exciting thing all the way up to last
year with red flap and a holding call and a
big long kick to win the game twenty two to
twenty one. So for me, it's always a fun time
of year. It's always fun to watch. I didn't necessarily
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play in the rivalry game, but growing up here and
being around it and having so many friends that have
played in it, and it's really fun for me to
watch as well.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
What sort of level of whether you label it animosity,
whether you label it the time, I like to use
a sports hate because you should never bring the real
life hate into stuff like this.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
It is a zero sum game. It is a football
game played by young people.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
But when it comes to the dynamic of the community
and people in the war, people in families, But what
sort of experiences have you had with those types of dynamics.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
What makes this week different in that way?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Well, I think the fun part about the rivalry is that,
you know, even families are broken up over this week.
I think in the past there's been a ton of vitriol.
Like my age group, you know you're talking. You know,
I played college football with a short missionary stint, well
not short the two hours, the two year deal from
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ninety two to ninety eight. I felt like the players
really hated each other, but I don't feel like that's
the case anymore. With social media and how much these
guys play together and how much they interact with each
other in social media, I don't think the hate is
as much on the field. Of course, they want to
win the game, but I do feel like there's quite
a bit of hate between fans, and it's interesting how
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how fast it can it can change around when I'm
watching the rivalry. For a while there there was a
lot of people that jumped on to the bandwagon with
the University of Utah, and then recently with my son
who's eleven, I've noticed that he feels like BYU has
always gotten the better of the rivalry. So it's interesting
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because he's just barely getting into his you know, kind
of getting his football chops, and he's a big BYU fan,
and I'm like, where did that come from? Like I
didn't see that coming, right, And so it's interesting to
watch how in such a short time, like the momentum
breach team can really switch. I think it's very even
now with both of them being in the Big twelve,
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and I think it's really fun. I mean, there's it
seems like there's always some sort of comment that that
gets people going, and I'm looking forward to that this week.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah, BYU's won the last two. Now, prior to that,
Utah had won nine. And you know, I think the
way that you phrase the quote unquote winning streak is
probably pertaining to who you cheer for. You know, BYU
fans go to the Lavelle years where he was seventeen
and two Matt comes in.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
I think he won four of six.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
And then of course, you know, really starting with urban
landing here and changing the landscape of really everything with
Utah football, there has been what you could consider a
generation of more or less Utah dominance if you go back,
if you pan back, but BYU has won the last two,
I wonder what you make of where we find ourselves
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with both these quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I've always appreciated the way you break down the position.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Let's start with BYU's freshman Bear Bachmeyer, who is an
impressive athlete, and he's really built, and so far he
has been able to stay poised in most moments. I
thought over the weekend he looked more like a freshman
than he had prior to.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
But you're on the road Arizona is not a bad team.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I don't know if BYU has really been tested just yet,
and that will change because Utah is good and we'll
get to Utah in a moment. Devin Danpier, But what
have you seen from Bear Bachmeyer as you've watched the
beginning of his career at BYU.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
So there's two things that I love about Bear. One
is he's not afraid of the moment, and I think
that's really really impressive from a young eighteen year old
boy that doesn't he just doesn't feel like he's afraid
of the moment. I think the other thing that I've
been impressed with is there's been two out of his
three interceptions this year. I think there's been two really
bad ones, and I like the way that he's responded
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to both of those interceptions. Now he has eight touchdowns
and three interceptions. If you flip over to rushing, you
know he's got seven tds rushing, and so he's an
exciting player. I'd like to see him be just a
little bit better when it comes to the red zone
passing the ball, although you could throw it back at
me and just say, well, jeez, he has five touchdowns
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and one pick, but the one pick was bad, and
his percentage isn't particularly high in the red zone, and
so I think that's a big deal. And then where
I think he's also been really really good this year.
He's you know, about sixty six percent when it comes
to third down, so whether that's third, long, third and short,
he's done a pretty good job of keeping the chains moving.
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And so BYU hasn't scored as many points as maybe
you've seen BYU score in the past, but he's keeping
in the offense on the field for long periods of
time and for long drives, and I think that's that's
been good for the defense at BYU. And so look,
he does some really good things. They've been trying to
build up the offense for him little by little, and
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I think a Rod has done a really good job
of that. But you're still going to see him do
freshman things. I don't care how good you are as
a freshman, you're still going to do freshman things every
once in a while. And that usually has to do
with throwing the ball down the middle. It's a lot
harder as a quarterback when you're young. It's really easy
to thrown out. It's really easy to throw a streak
because there's not a lot of reading go on, but
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understanding the moving parts of the middle of the field
is where you're going to see some mistakes from him
every once in a while. Now, he's also made some
really good throws. But I'll give you an example. He
made a really really good throw in the Stanford game
on what I call a post route to get him
down inside of the red zone per field goal. And
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then the very next play they're in the red zone
and he takes a sack, and that's a big no no.
When you get in the red zone, you just can't
take sacks. You got to come away with three points,
and they didn't come away with three points. And those
are examples of where he's doing some really good things.
And then he'll do some things that are like quarterback.
You know, one on one, you should know not to
take a sack in the red zone.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Were you surprised that he won the job?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
You know, it was interesting, Riley, like, you know, I'm
not taking anything away from Jake Retz laugh. I just
didn't think he was the main impetus for their success.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
A year ago.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I thought he made some big time plays in big moments,
including a big time playing a big moment here in
Salt Lake.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
But I thought it was their defense, it was their
run game.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Colonie has built BYU of over a decade where now
it feels a lot like the way Utah plays football.
But you know, I started to really notice that a
Rod was very effusive with his praise about Bear really
early on, and I couldn't really land on why, like,
either he was just trying to take care of his
freshman who he wanted out of high school and he
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was just excited that he had him, or he's really
that good and he was really going to win the
job over McKay and Borgay. Kid, But were you surprised
at all when you heard that Bard won this job
after I don't know, being on the ground for just
a few weeks.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
He was a transfer, as we all know.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I was surprised. I think even the b YU coaching
staff was a little bit surprised. In fact, I think
that the guys that I know on the staff that
I taught to were actually a little bit disappointed that
the quarterback competition wasn't closer, Meaning, yes, you know, Bear
Bachmeier was really really good in the fall but they
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really thought that the McKay hill Staid and the Borgay
kid were going to be a little bit better in
that competition than they were. And I think that they
thought that it was evident after like a week, but
they needed to let it play out for another two
weeks just to make sure, because I think everyone in
the building to see that Bear was the better quarterback. Now,
is it ideal to have a freshman quarterback starting as
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you're going through a big twelve season. I don't think so.
But when it's the best quarterback that you got, you
got to go with it. And I think, you know,
one of the things that I have to be complimentary
to a Rot about is since he's been at b YU,
every quarterback that's been there has progressed. And I think
one of the things that I could be critical about
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quarterback coaches and offensive coordinators there before is there were
some quarterbacks that would get there and they would stay
about the same the whole time they were there. Every
single quarterback under a Rod has progressed and gotten better
year for year over year. And I think they thought
reds Laft was going to be good, But I totally
agree with you. I thought reds Laft last year. He
was He's not going down in the history books that
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one of the great DYU quarterbacks because of statistics. But
I will say that he had some timely throws last
year and some timely plays that helped them to get
to where they were last year.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, no, I would agree with that, all right.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
A lot of hype around Devin, A lot of hype
around Devin Dampier, and I think so far it's safe
to say he's lived up to the billion I think
Texas Tech is really good Riley. I think it's probably
time to just say, like, Okay, it's not just one
of the best teams in the Big twelve, it might
be one of the best teams in the nation. And
it's clear that he was hurt because he could not
move around. But I don't want to take anything away
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from Texas Tech. I think that loss is going to
age well for Utah. But in every other game outside
of the Tech game, he's been elite ninety nine point
nine QBR rating against ASU. So your impressions of Devin
Dampier through six games sound like what, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I was a little bit worried. You know, you saw
that Texas Tech game. It was early. He knew that
the University of Utah was supposed to have a good
offensive line, that damp Pier was supposed to be able
to run the ball and pass the ball. It just
didn't happen in that game. But I agree with you now.
Even up till last week before the AFU game, I
was like, is Utah a good team? Are they not
a good team? I think it's very clear that they're
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a good team. I think it's very clear that Dan
Pier is a good quarterback. I think it's also very
clear that Texas Tech is really good, and they just
happen to catch him early in the year. Maybe they'll
get a chance at him later, maybe they won't. A
couple of things with Devin that I think are absolutely
just stunningly good. Number one is he's sixteen for nineteen
for eighty four percent in the red zone with nine
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touchdowns and zero interceptions. That's just phenomenal football play. Because
the hardest thing about the red zone is that the
lanes get a lot tighter, and you have to throw
the ball accurately, and you have to throw the ball
on time. So the fact that he's thrown for almost
eighty five percent and nine touchdowns is ridiculous. Then you
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flip over to the red zone when he's running the ball.
He has ten carries and four touchdowns with a twenty
with a twelve yard long run in the red zone
where the lanes are tight and where things are difficult
to do again, so I think that he has just
been so so good in the red zone. And then
the other thing that I always look at is what
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does it look like on third down? And he's doing
the same thing as bear Bachbyer is completing seventy percent
of his passes, which is which is down a little
bit from seventy one and a half percent on his overall,
but geez man, seventy on third down with four touchdowns
one interception. I mean, he's just really good, and I
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think he's really really fun to watch. I think he
brings a level of toughness and maturity to that position
that they haven't had in a minute. That doesn't mean
that they haven't had it in the past. I'm just
saying it's been a second since they've had it, and
it's really fun to watch. And when they can run
the ball, it's just going to make his passing stats
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and his ability to hurt you with his seat and
hurt you in the passing game even better.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
So for the second time this year, Utah's offensive line
has received the Big Twelve Offensive Line of the Week.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
And you know, if anybody out.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
There has paid attention to things like mock drafts and
scouts opinions, a lot of people believe Spencer Fano isn't
just a number one pick, excuse me, a first round pick.
He might be like a top ten pick. And obviously
there's Caleb Lomu. There's experience all across the offensive line,
and they've been able to stay healthy so far. You're
a quarterback, and the obvious thing is like, oh yeah,
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if you're a quarterback, a good.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Offensive line makes your life a lot easier.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
But the lanes and holes against Asu all over the place,
I mean, they just gashed him. Tell me what you've
seen from Utah's oat line.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Utah's old line, with the exception of the Texas Tech game,
has been everything that was everyone told us that they
were going to be. They're able to really make holes,
They're able to really give the protection that he needs.
And look, you know, when I was in college and
this is true now dude, when you played seven on
seven in a portion of your practice, that's an offensive drill.
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If you're playing seven on seven, like I was really
mad at myself if I didn't complete one hundred percent
of my passes, because it's just designed for the offense
to win. The way that you stop the passing game
is with a rush. But when you have an offensive
line like Dan Pira has right now for the university
you taught, that's essentially what you're playing is seven on seven. Now,
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are there some drop balls? Are there sometimes where you
miss a throw here and there, Yes, But for the
most part, Dan Pierre's playing seven on seven back there,
and that's where he's thrown for seventy one percent and
eleven touchdowns and only three interceptions. And you know, I
was on record of saying if he throws for twenty
five hundred yards and rushes for eight hundred, they will
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be in the title game. And that's almost exactly what
he's on track to do, almost exactly. And what I
was critical of was twelve touchdowns and twelve interceptions. And
he's clearly fixed that. He's clearly in a different trajectory
as far as touchdowns and interceptions go with eleven them three,
and so then you throw on another five touchdowns rushing
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on the ground. This guy, this guy's playing at a
hugely efficient level.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
So Utah to watch. Yeah, no, no, no, no, not
at all. It's all good.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Utah is a three point five point favorite as of now,
even though the game is down in Provo.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
You know, I don't do the whole like local media
thing where nobody pays attention to us and it hurts
my feelings. That's not really I mean, you've I've worked
with you for years, you know that. But outside of
our state, do you think folks know exactly what this
game is all about? Because, as I've said a couple
of times today and I'll probably repeat it all week,
both in the top twenty five, Fox Big Noon Kickoff
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is here. It's a primetime slot at six o'clock. So
even folks back east to have no choice, they have
no excuse. You can watch this football game. This might
be the most watched football game in the history of
this series that dates back over a century. You think
it gets this proper due in the landscape of the
national college football media world as far as just how
important and intense it.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Is, well, I don't think it does. I think you
know this from living back east. It's it's really hard
to watch a game in the West without staying up
till eleven o'clock at night, right, And that's always just
been a little bit. But I will say that I
feel like the momentum is switching. And the reason why
I think it's switching is because of guys like Urban Meyer,
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who's now you know, with the big new broadcast, and
he can tell people and inform people about how intense
this rivalry is and was when he was coaching in it.
And then you know, I do think that there's there's
a lot of respect for Kyle Whitningham around the country.
And I think that there's a general interest in Kailanie
Sataki is a very likable coach, and so you combine
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those three things together and I think they're getting a
little bit more of their do. I think that's why
Fox Sports Noon is going to be there. I think
it's why you have, you know, these opportunities for to
play on national TV in front of a lot of people,
is because there's been people who've been here now and
who have experienced it and look I've I've been around
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the country. I've been back East, and I've seen different rivalries.
I think BYU and Utah stamps toe to toe with
any rivalry in the country, and it's just a matter
of time until it really catches on fire with everybody else.
And they really noticed how much this rivalry means to
the people here in Utah.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Have you noticed We just had doctor Hill in studio.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
It was really cool, had so many stories about this
week and you know, hiring coaches and moving on for
Mac to bring an urban and then a really interesting
story where he spoke to coach went on a Saturday
night at seven o'clock, got off the phone thinking Kyle
was about to take the BYU job and started thinking
about what's next? Do I have to go to a
different direction. Then got to call at nine and Kyle
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actually said he was staying. Here's how all Fraser Riley,
I've never heard Kyle Whittingham say into a microphone, I
don't like Bronco Menihal. I've never heard Bronco Mendenhall say
into a microphone. I don't like Kyle Whittingham. I just
feel like they don't like each other. I've never heard
either of them say it, and I felt like the
tension that seemed to exist there made this weak feel
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a little bit different than it does now as a
result of Kyle and Kalanie and their mutual.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Respect and friendship as well.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Do you get the same general sense as far as
the two different dynamics with the two different coaches based
off of just what I'm guessing their relationship is, like, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
I don't like you said, they never said it out loud.
I also think that they're both just like kind of
unique personalities. You know, Bronco was the defensive coordinator at
Snow College when I was there as a freshman, and
I think he said exactly ten words to the offense
when he was the defensive coordinator theirs, right, It's just
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not his natural state of being. I think Kyle has
a pretty good personality, but he's been around the media
and around football long enough to know that he can
get burned if he says too much there, and so
he's never said much and I think he's been very
smart about the way that he approaches the rivalry. But
I think it's just a little bit easier with him
and Killanney. They had, you know, I don't know how
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it is for you who your best friends are, who
the people are that are your friends in your life.
But I feel like I probably have three or four
really tight male friends, and it's usually because we went
through something together. And it's not that I just don't
like other people. It's just that, like I know, when
I've gone through something with somebody that I can count
on him. And I think that's what Kilani and Kyle
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bring to the to the to the rivalry, and I
just think that, you know, they never really had any
crossover with Bronco and him, and it's it's maybe not
that he hated him, it's just that it's like I
don't want to be his best friends. I mean, I
don't really know him, do you know what I mean?
And so that led to some more attention because people
were reading into it that they're just not really great friends.
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It doesn't mean they hate each other, but it's definitely
not like Kilani and Kyle.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah, no, I hear you.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
When it comes to if we pan out, let's go
back to BYU for a moment. Because their strength of schedules,
now they're faults. I'm not knocking on them. Their strength
of schedule is not great. It's one of the lowest
in the Big Twelve. Now they've passed every test thrown
at them. My question is, do you feel like they've
been tested so far this year.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
By you or Utah?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
BYU Oh?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
I think they've been tested by Arizona and Colorado, and
I don't think they're great teams. I mean, I think
they're okay, but I wouldn't put them in the top
half of the Big twelve, right and so so, Yeah,
I think they're tested. But are they tested by the
speed and athleticism that you talk can bring. Are they
tested by the speed and the athleticism that somebody like
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Texas techt can bring? I don't know. I do think
BYU defense is legit, and I think one of the
reasons why they're legit is because Bear's been able to
manage some games and I and I feel like this
game is going to be close just because it's a
rivalry game. But I think if I was really drawn
it up on paper, I would probably pick Utah by
fourteen personally. But I do think that the you know
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the three and a half is probably about correct based
on you know everything that's going because that indicates to
me you get three points for being at home. That
indicates to me that that Utah would be a seven
point favorite at home. And I think that feels about
right to me.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
So you feel like you've seen enough to analyze this
where you believe Utah is roughly a double digit better
football team overall than BYU.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Right now, That's what I think.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
But I think because of the rivalry, it won't be Yes.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Of course it does.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
There's no way, there's no way to predict how things
are going. The coaches work harder, the players care more,
and everything in this rivalry is going to keep this
game close. But you know, I would say in Utah
by seven to fourteen if they were at home. So
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that may sound crazy to people, but I think they're
the better team that way. But I don't know. I mean,
you never know what is going to draw up, and
you never know what kind of pressure's j Hill is
going to draw up, and it's it's just a fascinating
and fun game for me to watch every year.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Well, the reason I asked you about BYU and the
way I phrased it as have they been tested? I
know they've played close games I just don't think the
teams they played close games in are good football teams,
not trying to be disrespectful to Arizona. Colorado got a
good win against Iowa State. But I just feel like
Utah enters this game coming off of test against Arizona State,
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who won the thing a year ago, and certainly the
Sam Levin injury changed everything. That the Simms kid, he's
been playing college football for six years and he just
doesn't really do anything well.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
It's not a great backup option for them.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
But I feel like Utah has been tested in a
way that BYU hasn't yet.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Is that fair to say?
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yes? Yes, Although I wouldn't point to the Arizona State
game because of Sam Lemon, I point to the Texas
Tech game.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Then you know, Utah has made some adjustments and they
are much better since that Texas Tech game, and I
think is going to turn out, like you said, to
be a really good loss for them. That loss is
going to get better and better looking for them as
the year goes on, And if they can win this
b YU game, they're going to be setting themselves up
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for a really, really nice place.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
To be as it pertains to the conference. From a
macro standpoint, I don't know how you would tier it.
It certainly feels like Texas Tech might be in their
own tier.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
They are just smoking.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Everybody, and I think Kansas is okay, but they were
not even in that game at all, So it might
be Tech and then everybody else. But do you think
BYU and Utah at least have shown enough to this
point they both have played six games now where you
would consider them in the mix to have something to
say about this com whin the dust settles.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Yeah, no question. And I thought, and this all kind
of depends on Sam Levit. To me, I thought ASU
is the other team they could maybe have something to
say about that, and then maybe just maybe, Although it's
really really hard for me to say this out loud, Cincinnati,
you know what I mean? Yeah, but it's hard to
look at them and like really go, oh, yeah, this
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is a team. But they're playing well and they have
a win over you know, they have a win over
Iowa State that was impressive. I think they're five and
one now, so they're a team that's like an outlier.
But I definitely think b Yu, Utah, Arizona State, and Cincinnati.
I'll have a chance to be in this. I think
what you have to worry about is like, so let's
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say let's say let's say Utah wins this game, b
YU has one loss in the conference, Utah has one
loss in the conference, and then that Arizona State BYU
matchup becomes big, and then there's just you know this,
this next five games, these next five games or four
games for b r U are just really really tough. Yes,
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but they could have something to deal with who wins
it because they're good enough team to beat any of
these four teams, and they're they're they're close enough to
those teams to lose to any of these four teams
that are coming up.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Yeah, they're about to be challenged, so we'll learn exactly
who they are for sure. Hey, before I say you
lose equal time here your Utah State aggies three and
three through six. Do you feel like it's been better
than you expected out of the gates? I mean, what
was it like? Eighty new players? Like that's a difficult,
difficult task. And you know, say what you want about
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Bronco Menenhall, the guy knows how to build a program
and coach football. So three six games Riley, tell me
what you're seeing from Utah State.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Much better than I expected. A little bit of a pause,
and I have to go into PFF to watch the
Utah State game because it was really hard to watch
this weekend. So I got to go see what happened
in the Hawaii game because they it was close there
for a while and then they end up losing. It's
always a tough trip. It was tough for Utah and
by U when they were in the whack to go
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six hours and play in Hawaii. So I'm willing to
give him a one office if I see them recover,
but way better than expected. Definitely a team that I
think should go to a bowl game. And you just
got to really appreciate whether you love Ronco or hate Bronco,
He's always very clear and concise with his directives and
with the way that he's treats his players, and they
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know exactly what they have to do to be on
the field, and that builds trust. And when your team
trusts the coach, you generally play you play better. So
I'm I'm overall very pleased and very very pleasantly surprised
with the way Uta States playing this year.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Riley, good stuff, man.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
I always appreciate the insight, and yeah, reach out if
we can ever do anything for you.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
It's going to be a fun week. Thanks buddy, Thank you, sir.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Great week, right.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Riley Jensen, college quarterback. He's been around the media for
a long time. Work with Riley at the old station.
Really good dude. I always appreciate his insight on the program.
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