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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Quinn McLain from sumer Sports on a Tuesday. Hello Quinn,
how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hey? Let's go and thanks for having me back.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Appreciate the time.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
So, just from an outsider's perspective, I wonder what your
opinion understanding knowledge of just how unique and passionate and
intense this rivalry is.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
With Utah and BYU playing football on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yeah, I know last year was an awesome game, and
especially years where last year's Utah team had some struggles
at quarterback, they still kept the game close. And I
think that's what you expect to going any rivalry games
that no matter the spread or no matter the opponent,
you're and you're out, the game's going to be pretty close.
And I think I'm excited to watch it from the
outside of perspective this year.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
So the line opens up, Quinn as Utah with a
slight favorite. There are three point excuse me, three point
five point favorite, even though that game is in provo
and Vegas typically builds in about three for the home team,
so neutral field, I think Vegas favors Utah by a
touchdown or so what do you make of that? Help
us understand why are Utah's favored to win, even though
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this game is being played in provo.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah, I think it really comes down to Vegas's favoring
Utah's defense, Utah's defense, and also when factor in the
strength of schedule at Yu, I think if you looked
at the schedule at the beginning of the year, it
would have been expected that the Uyu would have started
the season six now and heading into the Holy War
as a game that they would have been the first
test of the season. And given that Utah held that
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Texas Tech offense and check for the first half. Obviously
they had the QB injury and they blew it open
in the second half. I think those are indicators for
Vegas and some data points for them to say like
this Utah defense is talented and not even the whole
one of the most prolific offenses in the country and
check for about a half. And so those are enough
of the indicators despite the you know, the loss that
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Utah had in that game for this game to be
more favored into Utah's favors. I think there's some indicators
too that this game will be largely a running game,
as we saw the weather last weekend in Utah is
you know, probably a pretty sloppy game Utah held out
with the weather. But I think both these teams like
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to establish the run, and they both have mobile quarterbacks.
I think the experience of Utah's quarterback and Russian the
football are both welcome them.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Let me just ask you, because you're your guy that
digs into the data, I'll just I'll phrase it like this,
where does Utah have the advantage and on the other side,
where does BYU have the advantage when it comes to
the raw numbers the rod data.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, for Utah, I think they are an offense that
they're number one in the country in terms of their
ability to convert on third and fourth downs, and so
I think that's something that they leave themselves into an
offense that's likes to be on schedule. It is what
we mean by that is they're not a huge explosive
our team in terms of like stretching it downfield, although
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they've kind of caught up in the season in terms
of their explosive plays where they start at the beginning
of the season. They like to be on schedule, so
more of a dac and dunk offense and to get
small chunks and be efficient from that standpoint, and that's
been their their rhyme of reason as so the season
goes on, where b YU can kind of test that
number of being average. Their down success rate is they
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are a top ten country or defense in the country
in terms of limiting a closing offensive on that third
down success rate. So that's something I'm watching out for
Utah and this game is how their ability to convert
on this. Something for BYU that's kind of a strength
for them is the running game. L J. Martin is
averaging nearly four yards after contact and so tackling and
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space has been kind of the kryptonite for the Utah
offense or defense as the season progresses, and that's a
big area I'm looking at for them to hone in
on as the game progressive. Something that Utah can use
their favor on defense, especially with the freshman quarterback is
u YU is top fifteen in the country. What we
call a big havoc play havoc plays or tax hop
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for lots backs, interceptions, pass breakups. They're a defense that
really starts to disrupt the quarterback, and especially at offense
like BYU that Larks likes to draw the defense in
and then go over the top. What I mean by
that is they are twenty percent screen rate, which is
really high in the conference, in sixteen percent DePass rates.
And so we've seen this with offensive trying to manufacture
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a big explosive plays it, they'll throw a lot of
screens or have a bunch of run and rushing attacks
so they can draw the safety forward only to go
over the top on that. And that's what YU like
to play a lot in this game. And so if
the Utah defense can be disciplined and keep everything underneath,
I think they'll have the advantage defensively in this game.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Tell me what your data says about Utah's offensive line.
Most of the things that I've read has the Utah
o line graded as not just one of the best
in the Big Twelve, but one of the best in
the country. And you know Devin and the two running
backs they like to use. Certainly last week against ASU,
I don't have any broad numbers outside of what they
just went for and how many yards they rushed for,
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but the lines and the holes the lanes Quinn were
just wide open. The only game the on line has
not been able to perform top shelf has been tech
and I do want to talk Texas tech in a moment,
but what does the data say about Utah's offensive line.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, they're getting one point eight yards before contact, which
is pretty incredible. And considering that LG. Martin, if he's
putting four yards after contact on average, he's not touched
for nearly two to three yards on the given play.
And so that just forces a lot of issues for
opposing defenses. And I think the one thing that might
be their kryptonite there is they face a lot of
light boxes relative and what we mean by light boxes
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is seven or less defenders in the box, and so
I think that's something that Utah will shift for them.
They'll put a lot more people in the emphasis on
that running game in the box and basically force bear
box myrier tip through at them. The other thing for
them is they just they in given situations when we
look at the data where we expect the team to
pass BYU is one of the top teams in the
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country where the rush said, So that just puts a
huge emphasis in that they do trust this offensive line to.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Propel the too board interesting, all right, So when it
comes to the way this game is typically decided unless
there's a massive talent gap. It's it's always chaos, it's
always crazy, It's always close in some years Utah. As
you know when Urban was here in two thousand and four,
that team thumped the BYU team that they were much
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just much much better than But more often than not,
this game does come down to something wild. I know
you're a numbers guy, you're a data guy, so I
will phrase the next question like this.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
In your opinion, Utah wins this game if they do what.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Get Ryan Davis involved. I think that he's been the
blanket for Devin Vampire. Dampier has eighty two percent completion
rate when he targets Ryan Davis in less than seventy
percent when he targets anyone else. And right now, Ryan
Davis is averaging nearly three yards for every route day front.
So put simply, if you were to target Ryan Davis
for the first three downs on the given play, you'd
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probably pick up a first down. And so I think
his involvement, knowing that the rushing attack is going to
be pretty key for both these sides of the ball,
I think this wide receiver being able to have a
breakout game for them is pretty critical. For Utah to
extend that lead from what we project, knowing that BYU
has the capable wide receivers on the other side, so
I think he's a pretty pivotal player for this offense
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to really get.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Going, and conversely, BYU wins this football game if they
do what Quinn.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Make Devin Dampier uncomfortable. He is largely a guy that
likes to throw to the boundaries, and what I mean
by that is that he outside the numbers. He leads
the Big twelve in terms of throws outside. So if
their corners are able to kind of clamp down towards
the boundaries, force them out of the force them in
the pocket to make a throw that isn't towards the out.
Out of that, I think that will make him a
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little bit more uncomfortable. He's the guy that likes to
roll out sixteen percent of time and scrambled seventeen percent
of time, So we're looking over half of the throws
or drop factor either scramble or rollout. If they Utah
defense is able to keep him between the numbers, inside
the pocket and force him to actually be a pocket passer,
I think that's where they can, you know, pick up
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and force a mistake from Dan Pierre.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
So now that we've really unpacked and really good insight
here that we've unpacked this data on both sides of
the football for both teams, let me just ask your
point blank, do you have a feel for how this
thing is going to go down?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Who do you think is going to win this game
Saturday night?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I have a Utah winning this game. I think they've
played a more competent schedule so far and the you know,
John Henry Gaily, I think it's the key on the defense.
He's been a huge pressure situation. It will be a
huge test for this YU offensive line, and I think
he'll be someone that will call in your number on Saturday.
So I have Utah winning this game. That's at the
end of the day.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Is there a general rough score you'd like to give
us or maybe you've landed on something specific.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah, I think I have thirty to twenty As far
as the Utah winning.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
In this game, thirty to twenty.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Okay, interesting the double Did you know we had an
analyst on yesterday who actually said he believes Utah is
two scores better than this BYU team. Let me go
back to some point you made about BYU and I
continue to talk about this, and I'm like, it's not
BYU's fault that Stanford is in this pivot situation trying
to rebuild with Andrew Locker. Colorado isn't who they were
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a year ago with the Heisman Trophy winner and a
season quarterback. Of all the games BYU has played so far,
what has been the toughest test, Like which one would
be the most most accurate LITNUS test of the six
games they played that we can look at to say, Okay,
that team that they've played so far did actually provide
a challenge.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Probably last week against Arizona. I think BYU looked pretty
confident in that game, but they also got pretty lucky
in terms of their third, third down and red zone
success rate. They were really well above average and being
able to convert in critical situations. And to be honest,
if they didn't convert in those situations, I think we'd
be looking at a one loss YU team because they
did let that Arizona team back into the game in
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the middle eight of the game. And so I think
if you looked back and one of the critical things
to take away from that game against Arizona was Arizona's
ability to rush all over that YU defense. They did
pretty well in terms of the numbers that we're looking at,
and so I think that's something they're looking at the
tape this week, knowing that they have a very confident
offense in Utah who likes to rush the ball with,
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you know, the three spirit or three people that they
like to rush with, Dan, Pierre Parker and the other Rodgers,
and I think they're looking at their tapes to see
how they can limit it from last week.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I want to ask you about Jason Beck as a
play caller because you referenced and I really haven't been
able to land Quinn on whether or not it's a
big deal that we haven't seen a ton of chunk
plays from this Utah offense. Because if you can be
you know, if you can be methodical and control the
clock and rest your defense and wear out the other
team's defense, do you really need these sixty seventy eighty
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yard bud plays now if they go down and they
have to come back. And we'll talk about tech in
a moment, maybe there's something there, But what have you
noticed about the way coach Beck calls plays? That just
allows them to incrementally move the ball up the field.
And should you fans be concerned that we haven't seen
a lot of explosive plays from the offense.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, it's tough to say, because at the beginning of
the season, I think you and I talked about this
that I thought they were tipping the cards a little
bit against these bigger opponents that they didn't want to,
you know, show the explosive plays because they have such
an explosive athlete and Zampier that we know is capable
to kind of bomb it down the field. And so
I think it more speaks to what he's recognized in
the capability of the staff that you know, with this
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offensive line they have in Utah, you don't need to
kind of force and create a play. In some ways
that the quick passes gets a lot of these opposing
defenses out of their rhythm and moves the ball on schedule.
Is what popular term we like to look at in
terms of the numbers, their success rate is, you know,
off the charts in terms of their ability to convert
for play. In terms of their explosiveness, I think is
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kind of in between in some ways, and part of
that is usually just the more offensive strategy that they
just like to convert in the chunk plays and that
hopefully those chunk plates makes a defense, you know, anty
in some ways to force a big mistake. And that's
where we've seen the big most of their rushing explosiveness.
It's just screenplays from damp years shortyarded passing to where
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you draw the defenders and force a person out of place,
and that their running game has really killed them on
and that's been the moniker of Utah offense throughout the season.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I wanted to ask you about the Arizona State game.
I mean, look, the fact of the matter is Arizona
State won the thing a year ago, won the Big
twelve a year ago, and yes, like the Levin injury
clearly changes that that that dynamic of that game. I mean,
they come in here without the starting quarterback who was
second in the conference in QBR a year ago, and
Jeff Simms has been playing college football for six years
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and he's just not a very good quarterback. I don't
to keep cracking on the kid. So that did change
the dynamic. But I think a lot of people around
here were curious after the Tech loss, even though they
stopped West Virginia.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
I think most people know West Virginia is not good
this year.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
To see what Utah would do against the quality opponent
and they blew their breaks off. So what sort of
challenge did Arizona State provide and what were your thoughts
on the way Utah answered the bell there?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, I think Arizona State I was more worried about
being a Jordan Tyson on the end game, Like he's
such a capable wide receiver and you know we're talking
about him and talks of the wide receiver number one
when it comes to the NFL draft. That how they
would attack a prolific wide receiver. I thought was an
interesting takeaway from that game. He did end up having
his numbers. He was targeted seventeen times from Jeffson's nine game,
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eight catches for only forty yards, so limiting the damage.
And I think that is a nice previeum into this game,
keeping everything underneath so you're not giving up explosive plays
in this game. I think it's something to take away
from what Arizona State didn't that game. The thing that
airs on a state, and I think it continues to
be an issue for the Utah defense was they were
able to rest the ball at will at times ninety
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second percentile EPA per rush in that game against Utah.
I think it's something to keep to look into against
this game against Yu, because Yu likes to rush the
ball a little. As what we've seen a touch on earlier.
I think the solids from this too is that this
was probably the biggest explosive play game. On the data
points from Utah, they are fourteen percent of plays that
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Utah called in the game were explosive plays, which we
would rank about a ninety five percentile game overall, and
most of that came from Dampierre. You know, ten perris
for one hundred and twenty yards, three touchdowns, and on
the flip side of that, I think the nice thing
to take away from this as well as the Utah
defense causing a lot of havoc and so five sacks,
three tackles for loss, albeit the running game having some success,
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I think those are things to take away from you
can build on going into this week.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I want to ask you about Utah secondary. You've done
a good job of breaking down the defensive front and
their ability to cause some havoc. The secondary has two
maybe three injuries to some safeties. Smith noten was it
really able to lock down the Tyson kid, and he
certainly is an elite talent back there. But to your
point about BYU trying to take the top off, like
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set you up with the screen game, go over the
top and try to get some of those talented wide
receivers involved. What does the data say about Utah's ability
to stop that. Let's move into the second part of
the defense for Utah, the defensive backfield.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
What do you have to say there.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yeah, Utah's ability to stop the passing explosiveness I feel
like been a bit of a cryptonite in some of
their ways. They ranked twenty eight percent on limiting passing
explosive plays, and so with the capable wide receiver Chase Roberts,
who they like to target just over twenty five percent,
which is probably one of the top target rates out
in the nation outside of the person I just mentioned earlier,
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Jordan Tyson. That will be the big thing that I'm
looking for, because as capable as the Utah defense as
far as limiting the the push up front, they do
give up a fair amount of explosive play, most of
it coming from the pass side, and so yeah, I
think that's something that if they are disciplined and keep
everything in front of them, they should be able to
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tackle it well. But you know, as you know, if
you're caught flat footed in one of those situations where
to go deep, I think those are one touchdown you
can't take away.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
All right.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Let me move over to Texas Tech, who rolled in
here to Salt Lake a few weeks back, and you
know it, I don't love the way this game has
been talked about from a national scale because it's clear
that there's certain people analyzing this without watching it. It
was a rock fight for three quarters. I'm not taking
anything away from Texas Tech. The Will Hammond kid came
in and really dissected Utah Secondary. And the final score
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is the final score twenty four points in the fourth quarter,
thirty four to ten.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
But I was there, I was I watched the entire thing.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
It was a rock fight between two big, physical athletic teams.
But what can you share with us about this Texas
Tech team? Because it feels to me, Quinn that it
might not just be the best team in the Big twelve,
it might be a top six or seven team in
college football. So share your thoughts about the start of
the season for Texas Tech.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I think they had one of the best front sevens
in all of college football, and the fact that you
have to on a week two week scale or week
to week schedule, you know, defend against both their opposing
pass rushers. David Bailey is leading the Big twelve and
possibly in the country and pressure rates, and then Romelow
Height last week, you know, had a breakout game as well.
Those are you know, kind of the new era pass rushers.
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Who talk about David Bailey about six one sixties a
little underside of the pass rusher. But you know what
we've seen in the NFL of Nick Bonito having success,
you know, with the sack rate. I think David Bailey
kind of falls in line with that. And the one
kind of bad game for the offensive line of Lomu
and Vanu was against those pass rushers who are going
to be at least Bailey is going to be having
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his name called early in the draft come come April.
And so outside of that and the challenge those offensive line,
the rock fight that they went up against, I think
their ability to kind of move the field and limit them,
you know, it's hard. I think the Techni Tech is
a top ten team in the nation. I actually will
put them top five given that they they I think
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the one thing I think that was a detriment to
them going into the season because Joyner went down was
the rushing game. But we saw last week that they
broke a few rushing attack plays for over fifty plus
yards and so and to go on that. They have
a top top to rushing defense defense. And a lot
of times these defenses, especially when you have pass rushers
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that are so speedy like Texas Tech, they over index
on the ability to get to the quarterback. And so
if you're constantly putting the pressure on blind in the quarterback,
a lot of times you let the run defense go in.
Their top fifteen in pass defense and the number two
best defense in the country in terms of the bildy
stopped to run. So they're a real formidable attack. And
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as that running game gets better and better as the
season goes on, it they're gonna be a tough team
to go into when it comes to the college faball playoffs.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Do you believe in your heart of hearts or maybe
you have numbers and data to kind of help us
understand if if this Texas Tech team is a team
that can go toe to toe with Ohio State or
Miami or A and m or Bama or whoever, like,
do they really live in that area of national championship
contending college football teams.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I think you'll create some buzz in the first two rounds.
I think it's really hard to go beg into this
Ohio State defense and how while they're played right now,
to really move them off their their pedestal. The Ohio
State defense, it arguably is better than what we saw
of them last year. And the fact that they have
a truth you know, a red shirt freshman and Julian
fan play pretty well, and they have the capable wide
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receiver in the out outside that he's able to grow to.
I think it's how they and maybe a step below Miami,
and then there's probably a tier of a couple other
schools that are competing in there. But I do think
they will make some noise in the first two rounds.
But it's really hard to put Ohio States off that
pestal right now.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Is anyone in the Big twelve on the same level
as Texas Tech or even close?
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Is there any other team in the big twelve.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
You would say, okay, right now in the conference, Tier
one is Texas Tech and insert team here.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Is there another team that's in that area?
Speaker 2 (20:18):
It's a clear Tier one for a Texas Tech. When
we look at the EPA for play margin, and that's
like a nice number you can put at one team
in terms of encompassing all their performance offense and defense,
they are point four to nine. When you start to
adjust that, the next closest team is Utah point twenty seven.
So there's double the next closest team in terms of margin.
Right So they're a juggernaut right now, and the numbers
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are kind of showing that.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Are you starting to believe it? Like Austin's a tough place,
Oregon's a good team. I didn't think Indiana would go
in there and win. And you reference, you know, maybe
the tiers Ohio State, then everybody else than maybe Miami.
But how real is this six and zero start for Indiana?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Indiana? It's very good. I think the thing that the
Oregon uh secondary is very young. They're starting three true
freshmen in their secondary, but they're rotating. Albeit those true
freshmen are very good, and the linebackers in that game.
Were very confused by the quick passes that the Indiana
offense was able to communufacture. And so given the ball
placement a and dozing against those corners, that's just I
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don't care what team you are, that's really difficult to
defend against. The thing that Oregon's flat footed on was
the simulated pressures that Indiana was able to bring in.
So what I mean by that is the you know,
you look on the right hand side, you think you
have up with linebacker that's coming in. The linebacker actually
comes in, but then the defensive end drops in the coverage,
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and so if you're a quarterback, that's just confusing. You
don't know who's coming at what given play. And Oregon
was a little bit flat footed in that game. And
so I don't know if they saved everything in the
war chests for Oregon, I think that's tough to say.
But you know, they do have some other matchups in
this season I think will test them a lot little
bit that I'm excited. I think right now they're they're
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definitively in the top five, but I wouldn't put them
in the Tier one if that makes sense for the
other school.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Quinn I feel like we've been drinking through a fire hose.
My man.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
For our listeners that want to go find all this
data to understand how this game on Saturday night, can
you know, can help them maybe predict and understand the
way it will go. Where can we find your work
and then tell us about this new feature you guys have.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
I believe it's called sumer Brain.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yes, yeah, you can find me at Quinn's Wisdom on Twitter,
at Post a lot, at College Content. We came out
with a new product last week called Summer Brain. I
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Speaker 3 (23:32):
About great stuff.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Man, thanks for the time, enjoy the week, and we'll
get you back on soon.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Okay, all right, sounds good. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Quin McClain, Sumer sports dude drinking through a f I
love nerds. Nerds are so helpful. I mean, that was
a tremendous amount of data. And you know what I
love about Quinn. There's zero emotion. He's not like picking
Utah to win the game because he likes Wit or
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you know, he favors Crimson over or.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
He's just like, Hey, this is what the numbers say,
this is who by U's played, this is who Utah's played.
Here's what they do against this. I forgot to ask
him about the Spider two why Banana though I didn't
want to get too deep into the weeds with that.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
You know was in banana? And now Spider two, why banana?
Did you in the same aunt?
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Did you know that story that a you fan hit
hit coach wit with a frozen banana?
Speaker 4 (24:24):
I had heard that Story's not a first hand account
of it, though, So that's nice.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Well, usually it's beer being poured on them when BYU
comes up here. Now we have frozen banana stories as well,
of course.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
But how about my guy Quinn senior data scientists not
nerd senior data scientists.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yeah, but he's a nerd. That's all right.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
We need nerds to help help us understand how this
game is going to go down. Were you listening to
the two football siccos go back and forth like that?
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Of course?
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Okay, I always epa per play porter. Get familiar. What's
that's tend for?
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Are you familiar? Estimated points a lot?
Speaker 4 (25:00):
There you go, Come on, man, I think Utah is
like second or third in the country. Estimated points added
the other side on the offensive side.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Third and fourth down number one in the country.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
That how about third and back?
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Huh oh?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Are we doing that? Now? If you want that, you
and the youth zone bloggers.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
No, I just always found it funny that third and
Scaley was like a thing that the Utes would get
people to third down and then allowed them to you know,
people will get frustrated with that, but then you look
at like historical records and Scaley as a decordinator is
like top five percentile when it comes to conversion defense.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
So it's you know, just funny.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
The red zone numbers are wild this year, yeah, because
that's where that's where the yout Offman stalled last year,
like over and over and over. They already have what
like eight more touchdowns this year than they had all
of last year.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Yeah, And as you mentioned, the red zone stuff, when
the short when the when the field shortens up and
you know, your playbook kind of shrinks a little bit.
That's that's where you make your money. And Jason Beck's
been been not just field goals, they've been punching it in,
(26:18):
which is which is the big point.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yes, I think twenty seven of the last twenty eight
red zone trips they've converted, and twenty five of those
trips are touchdowns. That's there are a lot of football
games if you do that. If you're a Ute fan
and you missed that interview. You should go listen to
it because you should feel a lot, a lot better
about the game on Saturday night than you did prior
to some really interesting stuff from Quinn McClain from Summer Sports.
(26:43):
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