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September 28, 2025 • 41 mins
Elijah answers your email questions about autism. Is there a cure? Elijah also gets you caught up on his past week.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
You're listening to The Elijah Winfrey Show, a space for inspiration, impact,
and community connection. Each week, Elijah shares the latest on
his work in the community, answers listener questions, and reflects
on the week that was, from acts of kindness to
real conversations that matter. This is where purpose meets positivity.

(00:23):
Sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. Here's your host,
Elijah Winfrey.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Hello, folks, and welcome to the Elijah Winfrey Show. I'm
aditya host, Elijah Winfrey. We have a terrific show lined
up for you today, folks. I hope that your weekend
has gone well. Mine has been pretty good. I am
pretty tired at the moment, but I've had a productive weekend.

(00:56):
I got a lot of things done. I'll get you
called on my past week in just a moment, but
I do hope that your weekend is going well. It
looks like we're gonna get some rain next week, and
that's something that I am not really excited about, if
I'm being honest. But at that time of year where

(01:17):
we've started to transition into the cloudy days here in
the Pacific Northwest, and I know people that live here
that listen to the show will tell me. You know, Elijah,
this is just part of the process. You know, we
get all the seasons and you do, so I shouldn't complain,
but I am. It's just that my nature. I nonetheless

(01:41):
hope that you had a good weekend. Shout out to
my amazing producer, Greg Nice. It's good to to always
chat with.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Him before we go live.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
You know, we have an interesting show today and we're
gonna start.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
With a very.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
I'm not gonna say sensitive topic because it's not sensitive.
It's autism related for sure. But we got some questions
and you've been emailing me all week or last week,
you were emailing me a lot, wanting to know my
thoughts on you know, the autism controversy that's happening. I

(02:25):
don't even know if it's a controversy, right. We were
talking before we went on about you know, people say
a lot of things, and I think sometimes we don't
realize the danger and what we say when we don't
have you know, the facts, and that's what's been happening
around autism, and it's been happening, you know, for a

(02:46):
long time in my opinion. So we're gonna we're gonna
start with those questions momentarily. First, though, my past week,
I'm gonna get you caught up on that. It was
very productive. As you know, I mentor not just you
know kiddo's also mentor adults, and you know that's going well.

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I also mentor at a local high school and that
is you know, we had our first meet up last
week and it went terrific.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
I'm excited to be.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Called upon to kind of interact with with with students
who are getting ready to jump into this world right
and you know, this world is something else, you know,
once you get out of high school. So it's great
to kind of catch up and talk about their summers
and and me share a little bit about what I
did this summer.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
So that was that was good. My nonprofit, we are
in the beginning.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Stages, started last week of delivering grocery gift cards to
families in the community.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
I think I mentioned that last week on the show.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
You know, we were going to do this through mid October,
and you know, I'm really excited about it.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
You know, anytime we can delve deeper into the community
and helping more families keep food on the table, it's
it's I'm all in, it's a plus for me. So
we started that last week so out and about making
those deliveries. And you know, I have a great team

(04:26):
that helps assist with that. I took a great walk
with Gerald Donaldson this morning and we talked about ways
that you know, we can continue to better our communities. Ah,
It's it's always a blessing to pick his brain about,
you know, ideas that I may be thinking about as

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far as helping families in the community. So we started
that with the nonprofit. I am wrapping up my the
children's book. The illustrations are done. It's done, people. We're
moving on to the next phase. You know, we are

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working with our distributor. The goal is to have the
book out in January. We figured the beginning of the year.
It's a good time and you know with the holidays.
You know, I did that last year in November and
it went really well. And shout out to everybody who

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continues to support my books, who continues to read my
books in their classrooms, not just here in Washington State,
but around the country.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
I really appreciate that support. It means a lot.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
This next book, I in my own personal and selfish opinion,
I think this is probably some of my best writing yet.
I really let my imagination and creativity flow, and I
can't wait.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
To start the what's the word, what's the word? I'm
looking for.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
The media blitz or the promotion of the book. Yes,
that's it, the promotion of the book in November. I'm
so excited. Little E has grown a little bit and
I can't wait to share his next story. So that

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was accomplished. And I'm doing decently physically and mentally. You know,
I still have a few aches and pains. I got
a massage yesterday, which is good. I really encourage you
to get out and and and and get a massage
if you haven't gotten one. Self care wellness is so important.

(06:45):
You know, you want to make sure that you're your
best self at all times. So I did that. Peloton
is still Peloton. Great ride with with with my teammates.
My family's doing well. You know, my kiddles really loving
high school. I mean really love in high school. And

(07:07):
you know that makes my heart, my heart sing, So
shout out to him and we're gonna play. He and
I are going to start a NBA fantasy basketball league
when the NBA season starts. We talked about it a
couple of days ago. I'm excited.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
I know he is.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
He thinks he knows everything there is to know about basketball,
so this should be fun and I can't wait to
jump on that with him. All right, let's transition into
the show. My producer has thrown these questions up on
the screen each week. I ask you to email me
your questions at Elijah dot Winfrey at gmail dot com,

(07:47):
and we do our very best to get your questions
on the show, and we try to get them answered
in a timely fashion. These first at the questions. You know,
I as I look over the questions today and I
don't really do that, but because you all consistently asked

(08:08):
me last week about you know, this autism conversation that
was happening around the country, I just wanted to move
these sets of questions up and jump on them right away.

(08:28):
And his first question is from Danielle in Toronto, Canada.
Daniel writes, Elijah, there's been a lot of talk lately
about whether autism has a cure. Do you think framing
autism this way is horriful? And why this is a
great question. I'm not a doctor, first and foremost, but

(08:53):
I can honestly say, in my opinion, there's no cure for.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Autism, and.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Framing autism as something that needs a cure, in my
humble opinion, it's harmful because you're you're now treating autism
like a disease instead of a difference. And what that

(09:22):
mindset does is create a stigma, and it prevents us
from celebrating the you know, the unique strengths of autistic individuals.
The spectrum is broad, It's why. And so when people
get on television and start talking about, uh, there's a cure.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Uh. You know, I heard the I heard the word
tail in all last week.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
I thought it was it sets a dangerous precedent for
a lot of uh folks on the spectrum, a lot
of families, a lot of moms. And you know, we
we we we have to do better in that department.
There is no cure for autism.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
The question.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
You should be asking yourself, or we should be asking ourselves,
is how can we help autistic individuals live fulfilling lives.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
How can we do that?

Speaker 2 (10:32):
There is no cure people, And again that's just it's
just my opinion, and we have to be very very
careful when we start saying things on TV just to
get clicks and ratings, like it's it's dangerous, very dangerous.

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Next question is from Marcus in Seattle. Marcus rights Elijah.
From your perspective, how does the idea of searching for
a cure effect families and individuals living with autism? So, again, Marcus, like,
it's not a cure. And what that does, what that
kind of talk does is it can place unnecessary pressure

(11:17):
on families, right, and it can also make individuals feel
like they're not enough. And again, instead of focusing on
a cure, we should be focusing on support, inclusion, and acceptance.

(11:39):
I think it's as simple as that. We need to
do more of that because if we begin believing all
of this, you know, I call it rhetoric. When we
start believing this stuff, it really really becomes dangerous. So

(12:09):
I think we need to focus more on support and
inclusion and finding services for families who have kids on
the spectrum and making sure they're getting those services that
they need. I think that's what we have to do.
We have to really focus on that, and it's something
that we don't consistently do. And there are a lot

(12:32):
of organizations out here, not just here in Washington State,
but around the country, around the world that are doing
great things. We just have to continue to reach out
and if we do that, these families will get the
help that they need for their children. But we have

(12:54):
to do that. Next question is from pre and Mumbai, India.
Prior writes Elijah. Some argue that looking for a cure
overlooks the strengths and individuality of people on the spectrum.
What are your thoughts on that, Prior? I agree, you know,

(13:15):
I think I think autism brings unique perspectives. You know,
talent and you know, I think it brings a uniqueness, right,
creativity is one I just said talents, And I think
sometimes when you when you talk about a cure, it

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shifts the focus away from those talents, right, It shifts it.
It shifts it towards like a negative. You're looking at
it in a negative light or through a negative lens,
and that doesn't honor the individual at all, in my opinion,
it doesn't.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
There's some unique.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Talented people who very creative who were on the spectrum.
But when you start talking about a cure and now
you're shifting that so you're you're eliminating the positives that
are right there in plain sight, and now you're talking
about all the bad things and I don't think it

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helps well. In fact, I know it doesn't help families
or individuals on the spectrum. And I understand you know
this talking about a cure. You know, it's not going
to go away because you're going to have folks that
actually believe it, and therein lies the danger because there's

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no scientific facts that back it up. My phone, people
were texting me like you wouldn't believe about what was
being said, and I'd seen it, you know, and I'm
trying to.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Process it as well.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
And you know my response right away was, let's I'm
you know, respectfully, I'm trying to process it before I
give you an answer, because everybody's so quick to have
a response, you know, but I you know, I think
we have to. You know, I agree with you pre

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I think autism brings a uniqueness in these individuals and
you'd be surprised at what they know, what they can do,
and how they see the world. Next question is from
James and Birmingham, Yes, Birmingham UK. James wants to know

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what role do you think the community and media should
play in reshaping how autism is discussed. I think both
the community and media have a huge influence. I really
believe that, and I think we need more stories that
highlight acceptance and achievement and humanity, something we don't do

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a very good job of, in my opinion, not just
talk about the challenges or the stereotypes we see that,
but language and representation matters.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
It's a really big deal.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
And I'm just focusing on the media right now because
once the media gets it, it trickles into community. And
as I said, some people believe it, some people don't.
But I believe the media's first obligation is to get
it right, not to be first with false information or

(17:16):
bad information, like you're not even studying whether or not
this is true. And you got manufacturers like tile and
all and other companies having to put out statements. So

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the obligation for the media, I think, is to get
it right, be fair, do your homework. Instead of trying
to be the first, make sure you get it right.
And I'll say it again, there is no cure for autism.

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And I know some of you that listen to the
show may not like that answer, but I can tell you,
based on my experience and and and being in the
community and having a niece and nephew on the spectrum.
I'm just telling you what I've seen and done and

(18:25):
talk to the people that I've talked to the doctors.
There's no cure.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
There's no cure.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Next question is from Alicia in Dallas. Alisha writes, Elijah,
how do we improve? How do we move the conversation
from cure to support and acceptance in everyday life? We
have to continue to talk about it, Alicia. Right, that's
the bottom line. It starts with listening and and and
and you have to listen to the autistic voices. And

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we have to continue to educate ourselves and make inclusion
as well as including make inclusion part of our daily actions.
A lot of people talk to talk, but a lot
of people aren't walking the wall.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
And all of this.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
What we have to remember also is change happens in small,
consistent steps. It's not always a big leap. It takes time.
And if we're educating ourselves and we're listening to these
autistic voices and we're making inclusion part of our daily actions,

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you'll see lots of progress in time. In time, you
take the small winds and you build on top of that.
I think if we do that consistently, we'll get to
where we want to be and we'll be able to
help these families and these kids on the spectrum live fuller, happy,

(20:11):
joyful lives. That is the goal. That is the goal.
Next question is from Matteo from Los Angeles, California. Matel Rights, Elijah,
You've done so much in your community work. What does

(20:32):
inspiration personally mean to you?

Speaker 3 (20:38):
I think.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
For me, inspiration is it's fuel, right, It fuels that
turns intention into action. That's how I see things. It's about,
you know, letting love, kindness, and purpose drive you forward.
I try to leave with that every day. Do I
get it right every day? Nope, I don't. But I'm

(21:06):
inspired by so many people that are around me. You know,
I can't begin to tell you the list of names
that I interact with in the community, in the public
school system on a daily basis. That that inspire me,
you know, and that turns into action for me, That

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then spawns ideas in my head on how you know,
I can take the things that I'm seeing and incorporate
it into my work. But that's the fuel for me,
That intention, big deal. Big, big, big, and I try

(21:52):
to leave with love. I try to be kind, I
try to be as genuine as I positively can and
honest and what I see and I know my purpose.
You know, I found it, and you know I'm loving
the things that I'm doing, and it drives me every

(22:12):
day to keep pushing forward. And that's what I'm doing.
And that's the best way I can say it, Matteo,
that's the best way. Next question is from Sophia and
waynous Aris Argentina. Wow, wayous Aris. Sophia rights, When you're
feeling low or overwhelmed, what inspires you to keep going?

(22:42):
There are a lot of things, you know. I think
of my niece and nephew. I think of my mom,
I think of my wife, I think of my son.
I think of my my close friends who have seen
me work extremely hard. So when I have my tough days,
I kind of I kind of check in on what
they're doing, you know, And and a lot of times
that jump starts me right or that keeps me going,

(23:05):
because there are days where I don't have anything. If
I'm being honest, you know, whether I'm a para professional
or an advocate, there some days, well, I'm extremely mentally tired,
and I don't have the answer in the moment that
they're looking for me to have the answer to. You know,
I would I would say that I have I lean

(23:27):
on my mentors, but I don't have mentors like that,
you know. I I have deep conversations with people. I
think there's some that can develop into mentors. But for
the most part, I mean, I have some close friends
that I really admire and when I'm struggling, you know,
I watch them be successful and I try to feed

(23:50):
off of that, and a lot of times it helps tremendously.
Next question is from Oliver and Sydney all Stralia, all
of the rights alike. Excuse me, Elijah, how do you
balance being someone others look up to while also finding
inspiration for yourself. I'm listen. I try to stay humble

(24:17):
and open. I know I don't have all the answers,
and you know, I know sometimes the people who look
look up to me end up inspiring me right back, right.
I know I have flaws.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
I do.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
I'm not afraid to say that life is hard, you know,
but you find a way to push forward and get
things done. And for me, being humble is something that

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I learned as a kid.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Being open.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
I'm an open book by if you know, if I
if I got to know you, I not talk about
my life. Now I've been I've been burned in that
department because I can be so open. But that's that's
just me. You know, where I'm talking about my shortcomings
a lot, and that has come back to bite me

(25:22):
a couple of times, but it doesn't change who I am. Right,
I'm always going to be that person, you know, but
staying humble, staying open, staying honest, knowing that I don't
have all the answers, you know, As long as I
live by that, you know, I'm gonna be okay. And

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you know, I balance it because I know I can't
be all things to all people. I learned that a
long time ago, and since then, you know, I've been
able to accomplish the things that I want to accomplish.
I've also been able to shed people who are no
longer with me on my journey, and that happens too,

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and that's okay, That's okay. Next question is from Naomi
in New York. Naomi writes, Elijah, on your show, you've
mentioned struggling with getting with not getting enough sleep. Why
do you think rest is so hard to come by

(26:23):
for you? Honestly, it's just I haven't been able to
sleep well since my military day. It's just my body's
an alarm clock. I don't really sleep well anyway, and

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it just knows when it's.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Time to get up. Now.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
You know, when I say you know I'm not sleeping,
I'm still in bed, right, I'm not walking around the
house like I'm in bed because my body is still
not recovered. Cause there are days where I can sleep
for three hours, right, and I opened my eyes, you know,
from a nightmare wanting to get up. My body's like,

(27:10):
we're not ready to get up. So a lot of
times I'm staring at the wall and trying to go
back to sleep and I can't.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
So it's a struggle.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
And also, you know, once I found my purpose in
my passion, I think I was I started to mask
that I wasn't getting sleep, and I thought, because I
was so excited about, you know, you know, my purpose,
that I could deal with not sleeping because I know, oh,

(27:47):
I'm going to get up, and I got this idea
I'm going to write down in my notebook or on
my phone and I'm gonna you know, I'm going to
create something. So I was trying to mask mask not
being able to get to to stay asleep. And you
know that that doesn't make it healthy, you know, as

(28:08):
a matter of fact, that makes it.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Worse in a way.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
You know, I burn out quickly, but you know, more
quickly than most. But I'm working on that. You know,
I am really trying hard to sleep. I've seen some doctors.
We got some things in the works, and we're going
to get on that here in the next week or so.
So just keep me in your thoughts as I continue

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to deal with the lack of sleep. Next up is
Day from Cape Town, South Africa. David writes, what are
some dangers people may not realize about living with constant
sleep deprivations. Well, it affects your health, of course, and

(28:57):
it could also affect relationships, your focus, It messes with
your creativity and and look, sleep isn't optional, It's not.
It's a foundation for your well being.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
And I know that.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
So I'm not like beating my chest saying, you know
I can stay You know, all I need is three
hours of sleep and and and you know.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
I can function no It is hard. It is hard.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
I know people see me throughout the day and and
you know, I may have energy and and and and
and all of that stuff, but I am battling. I'm
really battling on the inside. And you know, the dangers

(29:53):
are pretty significant. And you know, I'll share this with you. You know,
I I recently talked to my doctor after a sleep
study and you know, I you know, I was elevated
to you know, because of the lack of sleep. You know,
I was elevated to having a you know, not high risk,

(30:14):
but it's growing into having a stroke or heart attack.
So I I'm aware of this. You know, I'm again,
I'm not walking around saying I'm I'm super Bad or
Batman or Superman or whatever. I know the dangers that

(30:35):
come with, you know, the lack of sleep. I've always
known it, and I'm working really really hard to make
sure I combat that. And I will. I promise you
I will. Next question is from Rena in Tokyo, Japan,
and ma Rena writes, how do you keep your energy

(30:58):
and focus you're not fully rested? Well, I just rely
on my routines, right, you know, I have a routine
in the morning, I have a routine when I get home,
when I transition into my nonprofit work. So I try
to stick to my routines. I know when it's time
for me to like lay down. I know when I

(31:20):
need to stop everything and sit or lay I know
that my body tells me that. And that's why I
kind of this summer lighten my work schedule, because my
body was saying, no, we can't do that.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
We're not going to be able to do all of that.
You can do two, but you can't do four, you know.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
So I rely on my routines. I rely on discipline,
you know. I rely on the support of my family.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
You know.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
If they know that I'm a bit off, you know,
they tell me. And I know, like as I rely
on all these things, I know truthfully, none of it's
sustainable without rest. Right, rest is the real key. It's
the real key, and I'm gonna get there. I'm gonna

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get there. Next question is from Anthony in Chicago, Anthony Rights,
do you think do you think these are a lot
of sleep questions today? Do you think lack of sleep
affects your creativity and leadership? Absolutely? One hundred percent, one
thousand percent. Creativity, It requires clarity, and leadership requires patience

(32:44):
and presence, and if I'm not sleeping, we'll both take
a hit. I don't care how good my work is, right,
I know if I had eight hours of sleep every night,
I know things will be even better than they are now.
I know that, but it absolutely it impacts your creativity absolutely,

(33:10):
and your ability to think clearly. So again, we're gonna
get it right. And uh, you know, we're taking the
steps necessary to to make sure that I'm able to
get myself on the right track.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
And I will. All right, let's take how many more
questions up on them?

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Let's see, let's take four more questions before we wind
down the show. This next question comes from Grace and Kingston, Jamaica.
Grace Rights, You've been a mentor to so many young people.
What do you believe makes mentorships so powerful? I think

(34:02):
it's powerful because it's about presence, right. It's about showing
up when you see them. It's about believing in somebody.
It's about walking alongside them. I mentored kids and adults frequently,

(34:24):
and you know, it's it's about being in those moments
and listening to those conversations about life and a lot
of times, they just want you to be present. That's it,
just be there for me. But mentorship is extremely powerful.

(34:52):
I's one of the best things I've ever done. And
I have to shout out Kimberly Good during my time
at the First Tier of Greater Seattle. She thought I'd
be a good mentor for a student and it's worked out.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
Really well.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
And that opened the door to mentor not just golf students,
but adults. And you know, I'm forever grateful, you know,
to her for that opportunity, and I've enjoyed it.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
I've really enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
I think you learn a lot about yourself when you
when you become a mentor, you really do. Next question
is from Lucas in Berlin, Germany. Lucas writes, Elijah, why
is it important for adults, not just kids, to have
mentors too? Because I believe deep in my heart, growth
never stops you never stop evolving. We all need guys,

(36:01):
we all need accountability, and we all need encouragement from
time to time, just like kids do. And you know,
I've been a firm believer and I always say I'm
always evolving, I'm always trying to be a better person.

(36:21):
I'm not in competition with anyone. I just want to
be as good as I was yesterday, and that's what
I try to focus on. Does it always happen, No,
But it's not from the lack of trying. But we

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all need mentors in our life. We all do for
a multitude of things. Next question is from Isabella in
Miami Bella Rights, Elijah, what lessons have your mentees taught
you about yourself?

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Uh, they taught me about patience.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
You know, I've heard a lot of things they've they've
They've taught me about perspective, you know, And I think
that I've learned that mentorship isn't a one way street.
You learn as much as you teach. And again I'm

(37:31):
speaking based on what I've been through as a mentor,
but I think it can apply to a lot of people.
Patience is a big one, perspective, big one, and you

(37:55):
have to you have to realize that it's it's not
all about you.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
It really isn't. It's about us. It's about us.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Next question. Last question is from Kwame and Ghana Quame Rights.
Do you think mentorship can help break cycles in communities
struggling with poverty or lack of opportunity, absolutely, kwame. I
think mentorship provides hope, direction and resources. I think it

(38:38):
shows people what's possible. I think it helps them believe
in themselves and those things can absolutely break cycles. But
you have to believe, right, That's key. You have to believe.

(38:58):
If you believe, yep, you can break cycles. You really can.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
All right.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
That is it for questions. We have come to the
end of the show. We run out of time, unfortunately,
but continue to send me your questions at Elijah dot
Winfrey at gmail dot com, and my producer and I
would do our best to get them on the show.
I want to thank everybody today for tuning in and

(39:31):
listening to my radio show. I am forever grateful. I
say this at the end of every show, and I really.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Do mean it. I just it seems like.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
We grow every week, and you know, these questions are
evidence of that. These questions are from individuals around the
world that listen to the show, and I am I'm
so thankful for that. So thank you for the support,
thank you for the love, thank you for the kind

(40:05):
messages that you send me via email or on social media.
Some of you do follow me on social media. And
you send me some very nice messages from time to time,
so I'm really appreciate, appreciative of that.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Do me this favor.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Get out in your communities this week and check in
on your family and friends. Put a smile on someone's face.
Remember doesn't take a lot of energy to do that
at all. Thank you for listening to The Elijah Winfrey Show.
Please be sure to download this show wherever you download
your favorite podcast to it next week. Take care, God

(40:46):
bless about

Speaker 1 (41:11):
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