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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The following presentation is del Marvistidios production. Yeah listening to
the fact unto radio Network. Here is the Hey Stuo Chubbs.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Welcome back truth seekers from around the world. It's time
for another edition of our classic audio series, and tonight
we go back about thirty years to nineteen ninety six.
It's Bill Cooper's Lansing, Michigan lecture. It's very again like
many of our classic audio just as pertinent today as
it was thirty years ago. Hey, Happy Father's Day to
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all the dads out there. I hope everyone has a
great week. And without any further ado, here is Bill
Cooper lofty goal.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Here nobally is.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I just want to read a real quick little saying
that a member of the audience told me about. This
is from Solzanitsen, and this is one of the reasons
I think we're all here, and we kind of have
to remind ourselves why we're doing this, he says, And
how we burned in the cabin slater, thinking what would
things have been like if every security operative when he
went out at night to make an arrest, had been
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uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say
goodbye to his family or if. During periods of mass arrests,
as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter
of the entire city, people had not simply sat there
in their lairs paling with terror, had every bang on
the downstairs door and every step on the staircase, but
had understood that they had nothing left to lose, and
had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush
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of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, whatever else.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Was on hand.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
After all, you knew ahead of time that those blue
caps were out of a night for no good purpose.
If if, but we didn't love freedom enough. That's what
makes this country great. It's not diversity, it's freedom.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Bell Cooper, thank you, Kenny. We back it well.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
You sure know how to uh make me feel very humble.
Thank you so much. I think one of the biggest
misconceptions in this country is what this country is all about,
who founded it, for what purpose, and most specifically.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
What it is that we're all looking for.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
I'm gonna try to clarify some of those, and in
doing it, as always happens, someone's going to be angry
with my definition of some of these things.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I've traveled all over the country. I've talked to probably
hundreds of thousands of people individually over a lot of years.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
I broadcast a radio show that brings me thousands of
letters every week. I administer the world's largest and most
successful civilian intelligence gathering operation in the world, which makes
me privy to an awful lot of information that none
of you will ever see. And there's so much of it,
I can never present it in a form that you
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would be able to look.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
At it and digest it.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
So that puts a pretty big burden on me and
the people who work with me in the Intelligence Service
and in the Cadgy News Service, in order to digest
this information, analyze it, and be able to present to
you what we believe. And this is a subjective judgment
what you can digest and what you need to know
at that particular time. And in doing this, by jesting
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all this inform, reading all of these letters from people
of every kind of background, that you can imagine every race,
every religion, every kind of agenda. And believe me, there's
an awful lot of agendas going on in this country
that are dangerous to Americans, being promoted by people who
claim to be Americans who claim to be patriots and
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who claim to be doing the best for this country,
including those who want to destroy it and bring a
battle one world totalitarian socialist government, they sincerely believe in
their heart they're doing the right.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Thing for humankind.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
You see, nobody gets up in the morning and sets
out to do evil. Nobody consciously does that. I've never
met any person in my entire life who said I'm evil,
I'm gonna do evil things. I like to do evil things,
I want to do evil things. They don't exist in
my knowledge. They may exist somewhere people like Jeffrey Dahmer,
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And I believe that even Jeffrey Dahmer probably he rationalized
what he was doing in his own mind to make
it right.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Isn't that the way we all do things?
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Even if we do something wrong, but we know we're
doing something wrong, don't we attempt to rationalize it in
our own mind and to our friends to justify what
we're doing. So I believe it's a great fallacy to
set out to brand those whom we disagree with as
being evil people.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
The result of their actions.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
We may perceive to be evil, we may perceive it
to be bad, but I guarantee that those people don't see.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
It that way.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
And when we present ourselves to them in that right,
we're good and they're evil. Do you think we have
a chance of getting them to listen to us. Not,
on your life, it's not gonna happen. So I think
we have to change the way we talk. We have
to talk to them in a day.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Now.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Don't take what I'm gonna tell you standing up here
today and compare it to what I say on the
radio and expect the two to concur Because when I'm here,
I'm just Bill Cooper. I'm talking to you from my heart.
When I'm on the radio, I am on a mission,
and that mission is to slap people upside the head
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and wake them up and even make them hate me
if that's what it takes to get them to go
examine what I'm telling them to find out.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
That it's right.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
You see, I don't care how it's done as long
as they wake up. And if I have to be
the bad guy that they're gonna hate for the rest
of their life, that's okay with me.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
If I wake them up. But when I'm here talking
like this, that's not my mission. Because you're awake already
or you wouldn't be here.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
You see, there's a difference between the people here and
the people that I'm talking to over those airwaves.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Big difference.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Awful lot of you are steady listeners of the hour
of the time and have been probably for many years.
And when I'm talking on the radio, I know who
you are, and I'm not talking to you, and I
know that when you're listening and I talk about the sheeple,
the stupid sheepel, it doesn't make you angry. You know why,
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because you know you're not stupid sheep?
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Well, don't you.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
The person that gets angry has verified that I was right,
because he.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Wouldn't get angry if he didn't know any his heart
that he's a stupid sheep. You ever been walking down
the street somebody comes running out, says bank robber, bank robber,
Stop that bank robber. Do you start running?
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Why don't you start running? Because you're not the bank robber?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Right? You get angry? No?
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Do you pay attention most of the time if you're
from a big city champas, are you even look around
right after you're from a small town where I'm at.
I mean, people will come running out in the street
to see the bank ropper, because small town and not
much excitement goes on there unless the irs comes to
mess with me.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
So what I'm gonna talk to you about today comes
from my heart, from my experience in life, from playing
this role as messenger, which I take very seriously, from
my efforts to wake up the American people, from my family, from.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
All the letters that I get, the people that I
talk to, just like I've talked to many of you
here today. I've learned some things and I think these
things need to be passed on to you. And I
think you need to start examining yourself, your agenda, your mission.
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Who are you, what are you about? What do you
believe about America? Is it true? Are you helping to
divide us more? Are you helping to bring us together?
Do you really understand what this country is all about?
And I know this is gonna make some of you angry,
that's okay. I know that it's gonna open some doors
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for some of you. I hope that it'll bring us
all a little bit closer together. And I hope that everybody,
once you've aj examined your own particular agenda, will try
to make it fit better into what we should really
be doing.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
And I'm gonna start off way back in.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
History, folks, because that's really where it began. The human
race is young in the in the whole scope of
the life of the of the earth. We're just a
young species. Really haven't been around for a long time
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compared to everything else that's in this world. And I'm
not talking about biblical years, and I'm not talking about
theory of evolution years. I'm talking about from the time
when you can see that man emerged on the historical
scale of this world and began to affect other species
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and the world that we live in and himself by
perfecting the ability to think first, original fought. See, there
used to be a time in history when man was
just like all the other animals. He didn't think, he
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didn't know good from evil. He existed and lived by instinct,
just like the other animals did.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
If you want to believe the record that we can
look back.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
And see written in stone, okay, if you wanna believe
that there were creatures that ultimately became this thinking man
that you see standing up here in front of you
and sitting out.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
There amongst you, didn't have this ability.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Now, if you doubt that, read Genesis in the Bible
and you'll see that is confirmed. There wasn't there time
and Adam and Eve lived in the garden of Eden.
They were not to think, they did not know good
from evil. They were just there to take care of
the garden.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Isn't that correct?
Speaker 4 (11:47):
So this concept and the biblical concept agree. Man just
enjoyed what God had put there and sort of took
care of the garden. Any dentist will tell you that
our mouth was not made for eating meat, So ancient
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man most probably ate vegetables and nuts and things like that.
Roots doesn't mean that I'm telling you to become a vegetarian,
because I'm not. You See, I really believe in freedom,
believe you should eat whatever you feel like eating.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
That's your business.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
But that's known to people who study these things as
the age of innocence. Something happened that brought man out
of that state, and if you're talking from a biblical reference,
out of the garden of Eden and into the world.
He wasn't innocent anymore. He understood that he was naked
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and that his partner was naked. He could think, he
could look around, he knew and something was good and
when it.
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Was bad, just as we all do here.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
When somebody comes up to me and says, well, how
do we know which is the right way to go?
I know that person has set me up to justify
his bad deeds, and I won't do it.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
You always know, We always know.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Which is the right way and which is the bad way.
The bad way sometimes feels better, so we may choose
that way and justify it by rationalization in order to
make ourselves feel better about the bad that we did.
In the mystery schools, they refer to this mystical time
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coming out of the age of innocence as the Luciferian philosophy.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I've tried to illuminate you with this for years on
my radio broadcast.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
In the Bible or in the Church, they talk about
the fall of men, same thing. There's only one difference
between the Luciferian philosophy and the fall of man is
that those who talk about the fall of man believe
in God. Whether or not they believe in a savior,
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they believe in God. The ones who believe in the
Luciferian philosophy do not. Now here's how that works, and
the Bible, we're told that Eve was tempted by Satan
to eat of the fruit of the tree.
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Of knowledge of good and evil.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
God had commanded Adam and Eve not to eat of
the fruit of that tree.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
If you do, ye will surely die. Isn't that the commandment?
Speaker 4 (14:51):
The Lucifer, through his age of Satan, on the other hand,
told Eve, God lied to you.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
He's holding back the fact that you too can become God.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
But first you have to eat of the fruit of
this tree, and if you do, you will surely not die,
but shall become as God's isn't that true? So from
the religious aspect, we see that as the fall of
man because man disobeyed God. We see that as the
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subjugation of the woman beneath man, where she had originally
been the partner. Now she is subjugated beneath men because
she was the agent of man's downfall. Is that correct.
I'm not talking right or wrong. I'm not trying to
insult anybody in here. I'm just telling you what we're
taught so that we all understand what we're talking about,
because that's most important. If you understand something differently than
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what I'm trying to impart you up here. We don't
have the same definition. We're not going to understand each other,
are we. The mysteries, on the other hand, look at
this in a different light. Here's their story. It's a metaphor.
They don't believe that there ever was a God, or
that there ever is a God aside from man himself.
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And man has not reached that state yet, but can
And this is what they teach in the lodges. And
if you perfect yourself as the temple of the God
within and become christed. We've all heard this in the
New Age movement, you two can become God. In her
movie Running on.
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The Beach, spending around, I am God. Go ask her
early in the morning.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
When she just wakes up and goes and sits in
front of the mirror and looks at her aging face
and tries to cover it up with makeup. If she's
got she may tell you a different story about that time.
Around noon. She might be feeling better and become God again.
But this is the reality of the human condition. I
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love to be God's, wouldn't we. My question to Shirley
MacLean at one time was, please, Shirley, could you make
me a universe. She sort of looked at me with
this hurt look on her face as she confronted her
mortality and realized that she was not God because she
could not make me a universe. She couldn't make herself
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a universe. She can't even make herself look young again.
She's having a hard time paying some of her debts.
God doesn't have that problem, does he, And in.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Her case she Here's the way they look at it.
Here's their metaphor for the end of innocence.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Adam and Eve were held prisoner in the Garden of
Eden by.
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An unjust, cruel and vindicting God, until.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
The Lucifer, through his agent Satan, set man free from
this garden by giving him the gift of intellect. Through
the use of intellect, man will conquer the earth, will
conquer nature.
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And will himself become God.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
It's taught in every Masonic temple in this land, every
secret brotherhood, every secret society, every mystical temple, every occult
organization teaches the Luciferian philosophy. They do not believe in Lucifer,
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they do not believe in any entity called a devil,
and they do not believe in God.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
It is a.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Mistake for you to assume that they do. They're atheists
in the strictest sense of the word.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
They are.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Humanists. That's their religion at the highest level. Their goal
is to create a world in which the Adepts, the
thousand Points of Light, working behind the veil to create
the culmination of the Great Plan, can realize the ultimate
happiness for mankind. That's why they don't oppose pornography. That's
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why they don't oppose certain crimes. That's why they say
you should not be put in jail for the rest
of your life for murder or anything else. There should
be no death penalty because it was a learning experience,
and having gone through that learning experience ants you're a
better person now.
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This is what they teach.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
They believe punishment for these crimes is nothing more than
vengeful retribution, which is wrong in their eyes. So these
are really the two philosophies that we have competing with
each other in the world today.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Who brought man the gift of fire? Prometheus? Yeah? Who
was Prometheus? Lucifer? What was the gift of fire? Knowledge? Intellect?
Has it?
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Man created industry, culture, society, science from the use of
one solitary thing.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Fire. Without fire, none of it would occurred, none of
it nothing. There would be no society with out fire.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
That's how it's represented in the ancient myths and in
the mysteries. How art thou fallen from heaven? Old Lucifer
sun of the morning? What is it represented as?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
A bolt of lightning struck a tree?
Speaker 4 (21:24):
The tree burst into flames. Ancient man, if you watch
the movie Quest for Fire, rushed up and grabbed one
of the burning branches, and it burned his hand, and
he let it go.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
He probably didn't go any farther than that the first time.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Second time, he may have found a deer that had
been roasted by the heat of the fire in the forest,
and being hungry, maybe he partook of some of that
meat and found that it tasted pretty good. Also, the
fire was warm and didn't get cold at night. And
this is where the whole battle between the forces of
light and darkness comes from. Man sat upon a rock
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one night watching the sunset, said, boy, I'm in deep
trouble now. I can't see in the dark. There's wild
beasts out there. There's taggers with teeth seven inches long
that want me for dinner. What am I gonna do?
He didn't know what to do.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Neither would many of us put in that situation, but
we would know one thing. We're in deep trouble.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
And so for a good part of his history, man
sat huddled in the darkness in some place that made
him feel secure, waiting.
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To be saved.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
I remember, folks, I'm not telling you what I believe.
I'm telling you what is taught in the mysteries. I'm
telling you what our enemies believe. Make no mistake about it.
They are our mortal enemies. They want to see us
wiped off the face of the earth. Man huddled in
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this darkness, fearful, trembling, cold, hungry, and around about he
could hear the beasts roaring, and sometimes they were roaring
because they were after.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Him, and sometimes he was eaten.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
A man eventually saw another tree struck by lightning and
grabbed that branch with that flame on it, And by
a little experimentation, he learned how to keep that fire going.
And if he could keep the fire going, he knew
something nobody else knew, and he became the first king,
the first priest, the first scientist, all rolled into one
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and he would burn this fire and keep it going.
Another man in the cold at the night, wanting to
escape from the terrors that were out there, would gravitate
toward this glow, and they would see this man sitting there,
and if he was kind, he would let them come
to the fire, and they would be warm, and they
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would be protected, because if the wild beast came, he'd
pick up a branch and shove it in its face,
and the beast would go away. And so the forces
of light overcame the forces of darkness, and in the
sunshine of the morning, the newly risen resurrected child that
had died the night before. Their savior warmed them and
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saved them from the terrors of the Prince of darkness.
You have to study these things to understand your enemy.
Any general who ventures upon a battlefield without understanding the
inn me is doomed to defeat. Just like a militia
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that forms itself upon a peninsula has already created its
own concentration camp, unless it has a navy.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Damn good militia.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
I might add, what is the upshot of this? What
am I getting at here? These people believe, and they
have conducted themselves according to their belief and their philosophy.
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Since the very dawn of man. These people learned how
to control others through the use of a hidden knowledge.
This ability to keep that fire going was technology that
nobody else knew. By observing the fire, by keeping it going,
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by creating ceremonies around this fire, they became a mystery
to the others. A mystery always holds sway over those
who don't understand it. And the priesthood was born. No
king ever existed without the permission in the priesthood. Now,
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I don't care what religion you're talking about or what
period of history you're talking about, it is the truth.
The kings never had the power and don't to this day.
Kings exist at the whim of the real power, which
is the priesthood.
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Standing behind the throne.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
So when the king ceased to be a benefit to
the priesthood, they would simply poison him or get rid
of him in some other way. The king's dead long
lived the king, and there would be another king appointed.
There was even a time in the history when the
king was a sacrificial king, just like John F. Kennedy
was in the Temple of the Sun on as daily
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plaza they would pick a young man with the height
of his virility, appoint him king for one year. During
that time he could do, or say, or command whatever
he wanted. The priesthood was always there to make sure
he commanded the right things, have any woman that he wanted.
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And at the end of the year, he was ceremoniously
sacrificed upon a rock, his heart ripped out, his body
dismembered into fourteen pieces, and scattered over the land. And
this is where the legend of the Ossyrian cycle began.
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It was to ensure the.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Fertility of the crops of the next year, and young
men would volunteer for this in their patriotic duty to
their kingdom, to their family.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
So that they could have prosperous.
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Years, much as our young men may volunteer to rush
out over the water to a place called.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Kuwait or Iraq and die in the.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
God forsaken sands of a place that nobody can even
find on a map.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
I never heard of until it happened.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Also, that he can be called a patriot, someone whose
family can be proud of.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
It escapes me.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
How they can ever arrive at these conclusions, but they do,
and the priesthood always.
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Takes the most advantage.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Of this willingness to sacrifice oneself upon the altar of
his country. The problem with it is is very seldom
really for the country. It's for the advancement of the
agenda of the priesthood. Whoever the priests happened to be.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
At the time. Am I attacking the church? You'd better believe.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
It all churches, all organized religions that have existed since
the beginning of the time.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Am I attacking the religion of individuals? Never?
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Not, on your life. He wasn't trying to create a
big church. He knew what happened to those things. And
you're all wrong about that.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Man, when you say you shouldn't get angry, you shouldn't.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Curse, you shouldn't do things that upset other people, because
that's what Jesus spent his whole life doing. Right, He
further money changers out of the temple. Don't you think
that made some people angry? Don't you think it was
rude to walk up to somebody's place of business, smack
them in the mouth, rab their table, and throw it
out the door. What about the time he cursed the
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fig tree? No pious Christians sometimes make me very angry.
They don't even know Christianity. They don't know the man
they're following. He was a revolutionary, he was a dangerous man,
and by God, so am I, and so should you
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be right? This country was founded by dangerous men, and
the moment the people in this country ceased to be
dangerous men's they're gonna be the day we cease to
have a country. Their whole goal with this philosophy is
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to teach all men and women that the only end
of life is to seek the utmost pleasure and happiness
that you can get out of it, because when you die,
there's nothing else. That's what they teach, that's what they
want you to be. They don't want laws against sexual promiscuity.
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That's why they don't want families. That's why they don't
want marriage. That's why they encourage homosexuality.
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There's a method to their madness.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
There's really not much method to yours, because you're operating
from a place of ignorance, and until you change that,
you can be bumbling around, bumping into each other, saying
and doing the wrong things, not understanding the nature of
your enemy. And if you don't understand the nature of
your enemy and the weapons they use. You cannot fight
that enemy. You can't fight the battle. You shouldn't even
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be on the battlefield.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
That's why you're losing the war.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
And don't tell me you're not, because I'm in a
place of great knowledge about who's winning and who's losing
this war, and I can assure you you're losing the war.
Doesn't mean it can be turned around, but it'll never
be turned around until you learn what you need to know.
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You don't even recognize half the weapons that they use
against you, and some of them seem so insignificant that
you don't even try.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
They want to create a.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
World where everybody is happy all the time, doing all
of the things that if you're from a religious upbringing, is.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Wrong to do.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
If you're not from a religious upbringing, but you have
a good brain and you understand the purpose of morals
and ethics, is still the.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Wrong thing to do if you're a thinking person. And
then the priest had an army, Oh boy, weren't they
happy with that? Their whole purpose throughout history has been
to teach a.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Small number of people how to become adept at controlling
everyone else and presenting their societies as desirable to the profane,
so that you're going to knock on the door and say, hey,
can I be a member and be initiated with the
promise of learning some great secret. What is that secret?
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The secret is what I have just told you this morning.
The secret is how to control everybody else. And you
never understand how to control everybody else until you get
to the top of this pyramid of initiation.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Most people never make it past the third step.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
All above that are carefully chosen and nurtured and talk.
And Americans for all these years have been looking around
for the enemy, and they have never been able to
find an enemy. So those who control them were able
to control them even better by giving them an enemy.
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That's what Stalin and Churchill and Roosevelt determined at Yalta.
Who was gonna be the enemy post war turned out
to be Stalin, and there was gonna be this phony
Cold war so that the population would never discover the
real enemy. And I'm talking about the population of the
Soviet Union as well as the rest of the world.
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You see, the enemy has always been here. It's your uncle,
your aunt, your father, your mother, your brother, your sister,
your nephew, your nieces, who belong to the fraternal orders
collectively known as the Mysteries, the very highest degrees of
which combined together, make up a secret order known as
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the Illuminati. Their goal is to destroy all existing religions,
save theirs, all existing governments, save theirs, and shackle the
mob and a system of eternal oppressive debt chained to
a computer for the rest of their life, and a
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propagandized world to make them believe that they are happy
in this system. Now do you think they're succeeding? Haven't
I described to you just now exactly what is going
on in.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
The world today. Just they're succeeding.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
They're succeeding because the American people don't understand their enemy.
They don't even know what's happening. People were extolling the virtues,
the virtues of Pat Buchanan and actually considering voting for
that man for president.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
And he sent them all a.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Postcard, and on the front of that postcard he identified
himself as a high priest of the Mysteries, because on
the front of his Christmas cards that he sent to
all of his followers was the penis of Osiris, the Phallus,
the obelisk with a nice red bow tied around the base,
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which represented the testees. You know what he was saying
to you? Are there any children in here?
Speaker 1 (36:57):
This is my man, he was saying, Yes.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
He was laughing at you, So was every other member
of the Illuminati. He was a highly degreed member of
the sovereign and military order, the Knights of Malta, which
was taken over in the Peasants Revolt in England by
the Knights Templars, who had sworn revenge upon the old
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Hospitalleries of Saint John's which later became the Knights of
Malta because of their role in the suppression of the Templars.
How many of you watched Trinity Network? How many of
you watched Pat Robertson. Have you ever seen the cross
in the crown? Do you know what that means? It's
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the symbol of the Templars, the Knight's Templar. It is
the symbol of the unification of the church and the
government over the people.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
What you want.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Every time any church gets control of government, the people suffer.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
It has always happened.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
That's why our founding fathers established a country where that
was not supposed to happen where everybody was free to
worship at the altar of their choice.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
And if you think they were all of one mind,
you better think again.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
How many religions of the Protestant group do you think
existed in this country when our founding fathers put together
the constitution over fifteen hundred different groups, all claiming they
were right, teaching a different dogma, quoting scripture to justify
what they said, and everybody else was going to hell.
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So don't give you this Christian nation bullshit, because that's
what it is. This nation reflected Christian values because the
people who made up the government in the early days
were Christian, but none of them agreed with each other,
and they still don't today. They very seldom ever have.
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What do you mean by Christian Seventh day Adventist branch,
Davidian need to do some serious evaluating, some serious checking
out of agendas.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
You really want to.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
Take over the government and make it a theocracy, cause
I'm gonna tell you exactly what's gonna happen. If you
do that, You're gonna burn people at the stake who
disagree with you. And if that happens, I'm gonna have
to take up arms all over again, and so will
many of you, because you're gonna be persecuted, you see,
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because whichever one controls the government, you're gonna have to
conform to that teaching. And if you don't believe in it,
you're a heretic. Do you understand what I'm talking about?
What is our common bond? Truly freedom?
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Freedom?
Speaker 4 (40:12):
Without freedom, you can't be a Christian, no matter what
denomination you belong to.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
You can't be a Buddhist.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
You can't own a donut shop, you can't drive from
here to Oregon, you can't be an American.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Because that's what it's all about. And it's the only
thing that it's all about. Nothing else, nothing else.
Speaker 7 (40:38):
It's about freedom, freedom, holy freedom.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
It means.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
You have to let other people be free, even if
they disagree with you. I had a tremendous admiration for
the courage of those two communists who had the guts
to walk up with their little communist sign and their
communist flag, two of their young people, all alone in
that sea of America militia uniformed patriots, and I saw
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people who wanted to kill them. Yeah, you know, I
don't like their philosophy. Their misled, misguided communism is a
terrible thing, but they had guts and they had a
great respect for them. And I believe in freedom, which
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means there is no way in the world that we
could have had that meeting on your state House grounds
this morning.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Unless they had to write to do what they did.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
And you had better understand that, because if you stop
them from having.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Their freedom to make their political statement.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
You have stopped yourself, you have stopped everyone, and that
must never happen in this country.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
It must never happen in this country.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Because if it does, there'll never be another congregation like this,
and you'll never hear me speak again, because I'll be dead,
and so will most of you.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
This country is about.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Freedom, because only with freedom can you have all of
the other things that everybody professes that they want.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
So the only way it can be done.
Speaker 4 (42:49):
I hear all crans of misconceptions and misstatements. I have
the freedom of the press.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
No you don't, No, you don't.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
The man wrongs the press as the freedom of the press,
and he can say in his press whatever he wants,
but you can't. That's why I get angry with Americans.
When they say the Jews control the press.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Who sell it to them? How they get it? You
want the press, start a press, you want to be
on the radio. Do it.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
But stop whining, stop bitching, stop complaining.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
That guy that owns the press, that's his press.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
He can do with it what he wants, just like
you do with your car what you want, because it's
your property.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
He doesn't owe you anything unless.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
You've got a contract with his signature on it that
says he will print what you say. If you can't
produce that, he doesn't owe you anything. That's America. You
know what's wonderful about America. You can have a press.
I have a press. How many of you seen my newspaper?
That newspaper is no joke. It makes congress man cringe
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when they see it.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
It scares the.
Speaker 4 (44:18):
Hell out of the enemy. You too can have a
radio show. I'm gonna teach you how. Just hear in
just a couple of minutes. You too can publish books
like this.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
I did it. The Harvest Trust is the trust for
my children.
Speaker 4 (44:35):
I'm not rich. I don't have anything now. I financed
this book. I sold coffees before it was printed to
people who believed enough in me to buy them. I
don't have any money, and my family that's all the
wealth I ever need. I don't make any money from
my radio show. Veritas is operated in the red from
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the beginning, it probably always will.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
But I got something that you don't have. I have
a breakfast.
Speaker 4 (45:10):
It's mine and I get to say what I want,
and I get to publish what I want and print
what I want because it's mine and I'm free, and
it's my free press. That's why I don't care if
somebody calls up my radio show and say they.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Don't like what I say. Screw you, get your own show.
Speaker 4 (45:38):
I don't care that they complain because I won't let
them talk on my radio show. Screw you, get your
own radio show.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
This is mine, bogs to me. I don't have any
contract with you. I don't know you anything. I was
speaking in California one time. A lady stood up in
the middle of.
Speaker 8 (45:53):
The crowd and said, you don't make me so angry, man,
why didn't you tell me this years ago?
Speaker 4 (46:06):
She was lucky I was telling her then I didn't
know her anything. But she blamed me because she didn't
have the information that I was imparting to her on
that day years ago, and I had it years before that,
I didn't know how to do it.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
I would have, oh god, I would have.
Speaker 4 (46:27):
You know, Billy, understand sometimes what a terrible burden it
is to know some of the things that I know
and try to wake people up and impart this knowledge
to them and find out that they just have walls
built in front of them. They wanna be slaves, but
we're making some chinks from those walls.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
You too, can have a free press.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
And that's what's gonna take to get this country back
without bloodshed.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
And I'm gonna tell you right now.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
Unless we can be successful in creating a real free
press where the American people get different viewpoints other than
those expressed in the establishment controlled media, there's going to
be a civil war in this country and it's going
to come soon.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
The only thing that can.
Speaker 4 (47:16):
Stop it is by waking up vast amounts of sleeping people.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
Sheeple is what they are.
Speaker 4 (47:24):
They are following the Judas goat right into the sharing
pins and from there they will go to the slaughter
and they will not know that anything is wrong until
they smell the blood of the sheeple in front of them.
Anybody can publish a newsletter or a newspaper, anybody. It
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is not expensive, it is not difficult, and everyone in
this room should be doing it all across this country,
and everybody that you come in contact with, you should
encourage them.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
To do it.
Speaker 4 (48:00):
That we should flood this nation with information, not rumor,
not opinion, not bullshit, documented fact.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
Everything you print must be documented.
Speaker 4 (48:15):
If it's not, eventually people will stop reading your newsletter
or your newspaper because all they have to do is
check out a few things and find out it's not true,
and you're finished.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
You must publish only documented fact.
Speaker 4 (48:32):
And you must stay away from printing articles from people
who will not document as fact what they put in
their articles. That's why my broadcast scares the hell out
of socialists. That's why in a White House memorandum, I
was named as the most dangerous radio host in America.
Not because I'm going to go out and shoot somebody,
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but because I shoot documented facts which cannot be refuted.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
That's why, that's what's dangerous.
Speaker 4 (49:05):
Seek ye the truth, and the truth will make you free,
and nothing else will do it.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
Jesus Christ has never lied to anybody.
Speaker 4 (49:13):
Why won't you listen to him? Don't spread a rumor,
spread the truth, Document it, prove it, make it irrefutable,
and you too will become dangerous to those who admire
us in lies and enslave us in socialism. Anytime any
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system makes you dependent upon anybody or anything or any system,
you are enslaved. Understand that doesn't have to be chains
of iron. You don't have to be hanging up on
a wall.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
You just have to be obligated. That's all it takes.
Speaker 4 (49:58):
You too, can have your own radios station and broadcast
anything that you want. You can broadcast your own shows,
you can be your own host on that show. You
can broadcast tapes of other shows. We encourage people to
buy satellite receiving stations across this country, purchase a very
simple FM low power transmitting kit and set up their
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own FM radio station in their hometown. And we now
have over six hundred and seventy people across the nation.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
It's not expensive.
Speaker 4 (50:28):
If one person cannot afford the cost, what is wrong
with eight or ten, or fifteen or twenty of you
getting together pooling your money buying one satellite receiving station,
a small FM low power transmitter and setting up your
own broadcasting station.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
I hope you will broadcast the truth and not some agenda.
You see what.
Speaker 4 (50:53):
Happens when you broadcast the troop is you piss everybody off.
Speaker 8 (51:00):
All that.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
If you don't have my address, I want you to
write it down. It's the Harvest Trust peobots nineteen seventy.
I'll repeat it a couple of times.
Speaker 4 (51:21):
Eager Arizona, Eager spelled EA G A R Arizona eight.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
Five nine two five.
Speaker 4 (51:28):
That's the Harvest Trust pio box nineteen seventy Eager, Arizona,
eight five nine two five. If you have purchased Oklahoma
City Day one, it's on the back cover at the bottom.
If you don't have a pin and you would like
to have the address, you can go up to my
wife's table upstairs on the second floor and get one
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of our flyers. The address will be on the flyer
and all you have to do is purchase that equipment,
set it up, hook it into the satellite receiver, and
you're on the air with your own radio station within
just a few weeks, broadcasting the Worldwide Freedom Radio Network.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
Are your own shows?
Speaker 4 (52:09):
Are other networks that are up there that are patriot
broadcasting such as a Marionette and others understand this too.
I'm not trying to tell you what the truth is
because sometimes the truth is extremely difficult to find, and
sometimes we believe we're broadcasting the truth and it turns
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out we really aren't.
Speaker 1 (52:33):
That if we find out.
Speaker 4 (52:34):
We aren't, we must be willing and instantly able to
go on the air and say we were wrong and
correct it. That's a responsibility that we all have to carry.
It's embarrassing. I've had to do it several times because
I'm a human being. I make mistakes too, the only
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difference being when I make a mistake usually not forgivable.
Speaker 1 (53:03):
That's what happens when you become a public figure. Your
wife can make a mistake, but Rush Limball never right.
Speaker 7 (53:16):
Apps.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
I want you all to get interested in this. All
of you should be publishing a newsletter or a newspaper.
All of you should be documenting what you published.
Speaker 4 (53:29):
All of you should have a satellite receiving station and
be rebroadcasting programming to your neighborhood. All you got to
do is make sure that you're broadcasting on a frequency
that's not interfering with any other broadcast, which means you
don't just check it at your house. You get in
your car and you drive out twenty five miles and
all around, and you make sure that there's nobody else
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on that frequency before you use it, so you know
you're safe. In my little town of Eager, which is
a very small town. Between Springerville and Eager is two
miles another two miles either way, and You've covered everybody
in the valley. And I'm up on a big mountain
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in the middle of this valley where the town surrounds
the mountain, and I'm broadcasting six miles in every direction.
Speaker 1 (54:19):
In my town. And it's militia country. Arizona is dangerous
for socialists. But when the war.
Speaker 4 (54:30):
Starts, Heaven help whoever they send to fight in Arizona.
And this still really is kind of like the old
rest days in a lot of places. It's dangerous where
I live.
Speaker 1 (54:43):
I Clinton made the sheriff angry one day.
Speaker 4 (54:46):
The sheriff rode twenty five miles, grabbed Ike Clinton, buy
his hair, and drug him to jail, buy his hair,
which brings me close to the.
Speaker 1 (54:56):
End of my I think it is how much time
do I have? Uh? Three more hours?
Speaker 3 (55:06):
MK?
Speaker 2 (55:07):
Uh come back as a Jim Johns.
Speaker 8 (55:09):
A moment and you thought some more.
Speaker 4 (55:10):
Yeah, just let me let me uh, let me, let.
Speaker 1 (55:14):
Me give you a little parting, parting. No fear. I'll
be back up.
Speaker 4 (55:20):
As well with uh a, as will the others to
answer questions later. Mister Collins has to catch a plane,
so I'm gonna cut my talk short and uh uh
please give him your undivided attention. I mean to tell
you right now, because I deal in reality. I'm gonna
vote for Charles Collins. But at the same time, I'm
a realist and everybody in this room should be voting
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for Charles Collins. But at the same time, understanding he's
not gonna be the president of the United States rightly, right, okay,
And I'm only telling you that so that you're dealing
in reality. Yeah okay, but he is the best man
on any ballot in the country. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
You're listening to the Fact Hunter Radio Network. Just the facts, Mammy,
The following presentation is del Marvistidios production. Yeah listening to
the fact unto radio Network. Here is the Hey Stuo Chubbs.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Welcome back truth seekers from around the world. It's time
for another edition of our classic audio series, and tonight
we go back about thirty years to nineteen ninety six.
It's Bill Cooper's Lansing, Michigan lecture. It's very again like
many of our classic audio just as pertinent today as
it was thirty years ago. Hey, Happy Father's Day to
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all the dads out there. I hope everyone has a
great week. And without any further ado, here is Bill
Cooper lofty goal.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Here nobally is.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I just want to read a real quick little saying
that a member of the audience told me about. This
is from Solzanitsen, and this is one of the reasons
I think we're all here, and we kind of have
to remind ourselves why we're doing this, he says, And
how we burned in the cabin slater, thinking what would
things have been like if every security operative when he
went out at night to make an arrest, had been
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uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say
goodbye to his family or if. During periods of mass arrests,
as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter
of the entire city, people had not simply sat there
in their lairs paling with terror, had every bang on
the downstairs door and every step on the staircase, but
had understood that they had nothing left to lose, and
had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush
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of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, whatever else.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Was on hand.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
After all, you knew ahead of time that those blue
caps were out of a night for no good purpose.
If if, but we didn't love freedom enough. That's what
makes this country great. It's not diversity, it's freedom.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Bell Cooper, thank you, Kenny. We back it well.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
You sure know how to uh make me feel very humble.
Thank you so much. I think one of the biggest
misconceptions in this country is what this country is all about,
who founded it, for what purpose, and most specifically.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
What it is that we're all looking for.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
I'm gonna try to clarify some of those, and in
doing it, as always happens, someone's going to be angry
with my definition of some of these things.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I've traveled all over the country. I've talked to probably
hundreds of thousands of people individually over a lot of years.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
I broadcast a radio show that brings me thousands of
letters every week. I administer the world's largest and most
successful civilian intelligence gathering operation in the world, which makes
me privy to an awful lot of information that none
of you will ever see. And there's so much of it,
I can never present it in a form that you
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would be able to look.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
At it and digest it.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
So that puts a pretty big burden on me and
the people who work with me in the Intelligence Service
and in the Cadgy News Service, in order to digest
this information, analyze it, and be able to present to
you what we believe. And this is a subjective judgment
what you can digest and what you need to know
at that particular time. And in doing this, by jesting
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all this inform, reading all of these letters from people
of every kind of background, that you can imagine every race,
every religion, every kind of agenda. And believe me, there's
an awful lot of agendas going on in this country
that are dangerous to Americans, being promoted by people who
claim to be Americans who claim to be patriots and
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who claim to be doing the best for this country,
including those who want to destroy it and bring a
battle one world totalitarian socialist government, they sincerely believe in
their heart they're doing the right.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Thing for humankind.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
You see, nobody gets up in the morning and sets
out to do evil. Nobody consciously does that. I've never
met any person in my entire life who said I'm evil,
I'm gonna do evil things. I like to do evil things,
I want to do evil things. They don't exist in
my knowledge. They may exist somewhere people like Jeffrey Dahmer,
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And I believe that even Jeffrey Dahmer probably he rationalized
what he was doing in his own mind to make
it right.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Isn't that the way we all do things?
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Even if we do something wrong, but we know we're
doing something wrong, don't we attempt to rationalize it in
our own mind and to our friends to justify what
we're doing. So I believe it's a great fallacy to
set out to brand those whom we disagree with as
being evil people.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
The result of their actions.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
We may perceive to be evil, we may perceive it
to be bad, but I guarantee that those people don't see.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
It that way.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
And when we present ourselves to them in that right,
we're good and they're evil. Do you think we have
a chance of getting them to listen to us. Not,
on your life, it's not gonna happen. So I think
we have to change the way we talk. We have
to talk to them in a day.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Now.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Don't take what I'm gonna tell you standing up here
today and compare it to what I say on the
radio and expect the two to concur Because when I'm here,
I'm just Bill Cooper. I'm talking to you from my heart.
When I'm on the radio, I am on a mission,
and that mission is to slap people upside the head
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and wake them up and even make them hate me
if that's what it takes to get them to go
examine what I'm telling them to find out.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
That it's right.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
You see, I don't care how it's done as long
as they wake up. And if I have to be
the bad guy that they're gonna hate for the rest
of their life, that's okay with me.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
If I wake them up. But when I'm here talking
like this, that's not my mission. Because you're awake already
or you wouldn't be here.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
You see, there's a difference between the people here and
the people that I'm talking to over those airwaves.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Big difference.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Awful lot of you are steady listeners of the hour
of the time and have been probably for many years.
And when I'm talking on the radio, I know who
you are, and I'm not talking to you, and I
know that when you're listening and I talk about the sheeple,
the stupid sheepel, it doesn't make you angry. You know why,
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because you know you're not stupid sheep?
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Well, don't you.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
The person that gets angry has verified that I was right,
because he.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Wouldn't get angry if he didn't know any his heart
that he's a stupid sheep. You ever been walking down
the street somebody comes running out, says bank robber, bank robber,
Stop that bank robber. Do you start running?
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Why don't you start running? Because you're not the bank robber?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Right? You get angry? No?
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Do you pay attention most of the time if you're
from a big city champas, are you even look around
right after you're from a small town where I'm at.
I mean, people will come running out in the street
to see the bank ropper, because small town and not
much excitement goes on there unless the irs comes to
mess with me.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
So what I'm gonna talk to you about today comes
from my heart, from my experience in life, from playing
this role as messenger, which I take very seriously, from
my efforts to wake up the American people, from my family, from.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
All the letters that I get, the people that I
talk to, just like I've talked to many of you
here today. I've learned some things and I think these
things need to be passed on to you. And I
think you need to start examining yourself, your agenda, your mission.
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Who are you, what are you about? What do you
believe about America? Is it true? Are you helping to
divide us more? Are you helping to bring us together?
Do you really understand what this country is all about?
And I know this is gonna make some of you angry,
that's okay. I know that it's gonna open some doors
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for some of you. I hope that it'll bring us
all a little bit closer together. And I hope that everybody,
once you've aj examined your own particular agenda, will try
to make it fit better into what we should really
be doing.
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And I'm gonna start off way back in.
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History, folks, because that's really where it began. The human
race is young in the in the whole scope of
the life of the of the earth. We're just a
young species. Really haven't been around for a long time
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compared to everything else that's in this world. And I'm
not talking about biblical years, and I'm not talking about
theory of evolution years. I'm talking about from the time
when you can see that man emerged on the historical
scale of this world and began to affect other species
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and the world that we live in and himself by
perfecting the ability to think first, original fought. See, there
used to be a time in history when man was
just like all the other animals. He didn't think, he
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didn't know good from evil. He existed and lived by instinct,
just like the other animals did.
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If you want to believe the record that we can
look back.
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And see written in stone, okay, if you wanna believe
that there were creatures that ultimately became this thinking man
that you see standing up here in front of you
and sitting out.
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There amongst you, didn't have this ability.
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Now, if you doubt that, read Genesis in the Bible
and you'll see that is confirmed. There wasn't there time
and Adam and Eve lived in the garden of Eden.
They were not to think, they did not know good
from evil. They were just there to take care of
the garden.
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Isn't that correct?
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So this concept and the biblical concept agree. Man just
enjoyed what God had put there and sort of took
care of the garden. Any dentist will tell you that
our mouth was not made for eating meat, So ancient
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man most probably ate vegetables and nuts and things like that.
Roots doesn't mean that I'm telling you to become a vegetarian,
because I'm not. You See, I really believe in freedom,
believe you should eat whatever you feel like eating.
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That's your business.
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But that's known to people who study these things as
the age of innocence. Something happened that brought man out
of that state, and if you're talking from a biblical reference,
out of the garden of Eden and into the world.
He wasn't innocent anymore. He understood that he was naked
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and that his partner was naked. He could think, he
could look around, he knew and something was good and
when it.
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Was bad, just as we all do here.
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When somebody comes up to me and says, well, how
do we know which is the right way to go?
I know that person has set me up to justify
his bad deeds, and I won't do it.
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You always know, We always know.
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Which is the right way and which is the bad way.
The bad way sometimes feels better, so we may choose
that way and justify it by rationalization in order to
make ourselves feel better about the bad that we did.
In the mystery schools, they refer to this mystical time
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coming out of the age of innocence as the Luciferian philosophy.
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I've tried to illuminate you with this for years on
my radio broadcast.
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In the Bible or in the Church, they talk about
the fall of men, same thing. There's only one difference
between the Luciferian philosophy and the fall of man is
that those who talk about the fall of man believe
in God. Whether or not they believe in a savior,
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they believe in God. The ones who believe in the
Luciferian philosophy do not. Now here's how that works, and
the Bible, we're told that Eve was tempted by Satan
to eat of the fruit of the tree.
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Of knowledge of good and evil.
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God had commanded Adam and Eve not to eat of
the fruit of that tree.
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If you do, ye will surely die. Isn't that the commandment?
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The Lucifer, through his age of Satan, on the other hand,
told Eve, God lied to you.
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He's holding back the fact that you too can become God.
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But first you have to eat of the fruit of
this tree, and if you do, you will surely not die,
but shall become as God's isn't that true? So from
the religious aspect, we see that as the fall of
man because man disobeyed God. We see that as the
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subjugation of the woman beneath man, where she had originally
been the partner. Now she is subjugated beneath men because
she was the agent of man's downfall. Is that correct.
I'm not talking right or wrong. I'm not trying to
insult anybody in here. I'm just telling you what we're
taught so that we all understand what we're talking about,
because that's most important. If you understand something differently than
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what I'm trying to impart you up here. We don't
have the same definition. We're not going to understand each other,
are we. The mysteries, on the other hand, look at
this in a different light. Here's their story. It's a metaphor.
They don't believe that there ever was a God, or
that there ever is a God aside from man himself.
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And man has not reached that state yet, but can
And this is what they teach in the lodges. And
if you perfect yourself as the temple of the God
within and become christed. We've all heard this in the
New Age movement, you two can become God. In her
movie Running on.
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The Beach, spending around, I am God. Go ask her
early in the morning.
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When she just wakes up and goes and sits in
front of the mirror and looks at her aging face
and tries to cover it up with makeup. If she's
got she may tell you a different story about that time.
Around noon. She might be feeling better and become God again.
But this is the reality of the human condition. I
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love to be God's, wouldn't we. My question to Shirley
MacLean at one time was, please, Shirley, could you make
me a universe. She sort of looked at me with
this hurt look on her face as she confronted her
mortality and realized that she was not God because she
could not make me a universe. She couldn't make herself
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a universe. She can't even make herself look young again.
She's having a hard time paying some of her debts.
God doesn't have that problem, does he, And in.
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Her case she Here's the way they look at it.
Here's their metaphor for the end of innocence.
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Adam and Eve were held prisoner in the Garden of
Eden by.
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An unjust, cruel and vindicting God, until.
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The Lucifer, through his agent Satan, set man free from
this garden by giving him the gift of intellect. Through
the use of intellect, man will conquer the earth, will
conquer nature.
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And will himself become God.
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It's taught in every Masonic temple in this land, every
secret brotherhood, every secret society, every mystical temple, every occult
organization teaches the Luciferian philosophy. They do not believe in Lucifer,
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they do not believe in any entity called a devil,
and they do not believe in God.
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It is a.
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Mistake for you to assume that they do. They're atheists
in the strictest sense of the word.
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They are.
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Humanists. That's their religion at the highest level. Their goal
is to create a world in which the Adepts, the
thousand Points of Light, working behind the veil to create
the culmination of the Great Plan, can realize the ultimate
happiness for mankind. That's why they don't oppose pornography. That's
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why they don't oppose certain crimes. That's why they say
you should not be put in jail for the rest
of your life for murder or anything else. There should
be no death penalty because it was a learning experience,
and having gone through that learning experience ants you're a
better person now.
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This is what they teach.
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They believe punishment for these crimes is nothing more than
vengeful retribution, which is wrong in their eyes. So these
are really the two philosophies that we have competing with
each other in the world today.
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Who brought man the gift of fire? Prometheus? Yeah? Who
was Prometheus? Lucifer? What was the gift of fire? Knowledge? Intellect?
Has it?
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Man created industry, culture, society, science from the use of
one solitary thing.
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Fire. Without fire, none of it would occurred, none of
it nothing. There would be no society with out fire.
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That's how it's represented in the ancient myths and in
the mysteries. How art thou fallen from heaven? Old Lucifer
sun of the morning? What is it represented as?
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A bolt of lightning struck a tree?
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The tree burst into flames. Ancient man, if you watch
the movie Quest for Fire, rushed up and grabbed one
of the burning branches, and it burned his hand, and
he let it go.
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He probably didn't go any farther than that the first time.
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Second time, he may have found a deer that had
been roasted by the heat of the fire in the forest,
and being hungry, maybe he partook of some of that
meat and found that it tasted pretty good. Also, the
fire was warm and didn't get cold at night. And
this is where the whole battle between the forces of
light and darkness comes from. Man sat upon a rock
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one night watching the sunset, said, boy, I'm in deep
trouble now. I can't see in the dark. There's wild
beasts out there. There's taggers with teeth seven inches long
that want me for dinner. What am I gonna do?
He didn't know what to do.
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Neither would many of us put in that situation, but
we would know one thing. We're in deep trouble.
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And so for a good part of his history, man
sat huddled in the darkness in some place that made
him feel secure, waiting.
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To be saved.
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I remember, folks, I'm not telling you what I believe.
I'm telling you what is taught in the mysteries. I'm
telling you what our enemies believe. Make no mistake about it.
They are our mortal enemies. They want to see us
wiped off the face of the earth. Man huddled in
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this darkness, fearful, trembling, cold, hungry, and around about he
could hear the beasts roaring, and sometimes they were roaring
because they were after.
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Him, and sometimes he was eaten.
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A man eventually saw another tree struck by lightning and
grabbed that branch with that flame on it, And by
a little experimentation, he learned how to keep that fire going.
And if he could keep the fire going, he knew
something nobody else knew, and he became the first king,
the first priest, the first scientist, all rolled into one
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and he would burn this fire and keep it going.
Another man in the cold at the night, wanting to
escape from the terrors that were out there, would gravitate
toward this glow, and they would see this man sitting there,
and if he was kind, he would let them come
to the fire, and they would be warm, and they
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would be protected, because if the wild beast came, he'd
pick up a branch and shove it in its face,
and the beast would go away. And so the forces
of light overcame the forces of darkness, and in the
sunshine of the morning, the newly risen resurrected child that
had died the night before. Their savior warmed them and
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saved them from the terrors of the Prince of darkness.
You have to study these things to understand your enemy.
Any general who ventures upon a battlefield without understanding the
inn me is doomed to defeat. Just like a militia
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that forms itself upon a peninsula has already created its
own concentration camp, unless it has a navy.
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Damn good militia.
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I might add, what is the upshot of this? What
am I getting at here? These people believe, and they
have conducted themselves according to their belief and their philosophy.
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Since the very dawn of man. These people learned how
to control others through the use of a hidden knowledge.
This ability to keep that fire going was technology that
nobody else knew. By observing the fire, by keeping it going,
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by creating ceremonies around this fire, they became a mystery
to the others. A mystery always holds sway over those
who don't understand it. And the priesthood was born. No
king ever existed without the permission in the priesthood. Now,
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I don't care what religion you're talking about or what
period of history you're talking about, it is the truth.
The kings never had the power and don't to this day.
Kings exist at the whim of the real power, which
is the priesthood.
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Standing behind the throne.
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So when the king ceased to be a benefit to
the priesthood, they would simply poison him or get rid
of him in some other way. The king's dead long
lived the king, and there would be another king appointed.
There was even a time in the history when the
king was a sacrificial king, just like John F. Kennedy
was in the Temple of the Sun on as daily
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plaza they would pick a young man with the height
of his virility, appoint him king for one year. During
that time he could do, or say, or command whatever
he wanted. The priesthood was always there to make sure
he commanded the right things, have any woman that he wanted.
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And at the end of the year, he was ceremoniously
sacrificed upon a rock, his heart ripped out, his body
dismembered into fourteen pieces, and scattered over the land. And
this is where the legend of the Ossyrian cycle began.
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It was to ensure the.
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Fertility of the crops of the next year, and young
men would volunteer for this in their patriotic duty to
their kingdom, to their family.
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So that they could have prosperous.
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Years, much as our young men may volunteer to rush
out over the water to a place called.
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Kuwait or Iraq and die in the.
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God forsaken sands of a place that nobody can even
find on a map.
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I never heard of until it happened.
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Also, that he can be called a patriot, someone whose
family can be proud of.
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It escapes me.
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How they can ever arrive at these conclusions, but they do,
and the priesthood always.
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Takes the most advantage.
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Of this willingness to sacrifice oneself upon the altar of
his country. The problem with it is is very seldom
really for the country. It's for the advancement of the
agenda of the priesthood. Whoever the priests happened to be.
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At the time. Am I attacking the church? You'd better believe.
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It all churches, all organized religions that have existed since
the beginning of the time.
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Am I attacking the religion of individuals? Never?
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Not, on your life. He wasn't trying to create a
big church. He knew what happened to those things. And
you're all wrong about that.
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Man, when you say you shouldn't get angry, you shouldn't.
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Curse, you shouldn't do things that upset other people, because
that's what Jesus spent his whole life doing. Right, He
further money changers out of the temple. Don't you think
that made some people angry? Don't you think it was
rude to walk up to somebody's place of business, smack
them in the mouth, rab their table, and throw it
out the door. What about the time he cursed the
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fig tree? No pious Christians sometimes make me very angry.
They don't even know Christianity. They don't know the man
they're following. He was a revolutionary, he was a dangerous man,
and by God, so am I, and so should you
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be right? This country was founded by dangerous men, and
the moment the people in this country ceased to be
dangerous men's they're gonna be the day we cease to
have a country. Their whole goal with this philosophy is
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to teach all men and women that the only end
of life is to seek the utmost pleasure and happiness
that you can get out of it, because when you die,
there's nothing else. That's what they teach, that's what they
want you to be. They don't want laws against sexual promiscuity.
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That's why they don't want families. That's why they don't
want marriage. That's why they encourage homosexuality.
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There's a method to their madness.
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There's really not much method to yours, because you're operating
from a place of ignorance, and until you change that,
you can be bumbling around, bumping into each other, saying
and doing the wrong things, not understanding the nature of
your enemy. And if you don't understand the nature of
your enemy and the weapons they use. You cannot fight
that enemy. You can't fight the battle. You shouldn't even
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be on the battlefield.
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That's why you're losing the war.
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And don't tell me you're not, because I'm in a
place of great knowledge about who's winning and who's losing
this war, and I can assure you you're losing the war.
Doesn't mean it can be turned around, but it'll never
be turned around until you learn what you need to know.
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You don't even recognize half the weapons that they use
against you, and some of them seem so insignificant that
you don't even try.
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They want to create a.
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World where everybody is happy all the time, doing all
of the things that if you're from a religious upbringing, is.
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Wrong to do.
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If you're not from a religious upbringing, but you have
a good brain and you understand the purpose of morals
and ethics, is still the.
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Wrong thing to do if you're a thinking person. And
then the priest had an army, Oh boy, weren't they
happy with that? Their whole purpose throughout history has been
to teach a.
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Small number of people how to become adept at controlling
everyone else and presenting their societies as desirable to the profane,
so that you're going to knock on the door and say, hey,
can I be a member and be initiated with the
promise of learning some great secret. What is that secret?
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The secret is what I have just told you this morning.
The secret is how to control everybody else. And you
never understand how to control everybody else until you get
to the top of this pyramid of initiation.
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Most people never make it past the third step.
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All above that are carefully chosen and nurtured and talk.
And Americans for all these years have been looking around
for the enemy, and they have never been able to
find an enemy. So those who control them were able
to control them even better by giving them an enemy.
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That's what Stalin and Churchill and Roosevelt determined at Yalta.
Who was gonna be the enemy post war turned out
to be Stalin, and there was gonna be this phony
Cold war so that the population would never discover the
real enemy. And I'm talking about the population of the
Soviet Union as well as the rest of the world.
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You see, the enemy has always been here. It's your uncle,
your aunt, your father, your mother, your brother, your sister,
your nephew, your nieces, who belong to the fraternal orders
collectively known as the Mysteries, the very highest degrees of
which combined together, make up a secret order known as
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the Illuminati. Their goal is to destroy all existing religions,
save theirs, all existing governments, save theirs, and shackle the
mob and a system of eternal oppressive debt chained to
a computer for the rest of their life, and a
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propagandized world to make them believe that they are happy
in this system. Now do you think they're succeeding? Haven't
I described to you just now exactly what is going
on in.
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The world today. Just they're succeeding.
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They're succeeding because the American people don't understand their enemy.
They don't even know what's happening. People were extolling the virtues,
the virtues of Pat Buchanan and actually considering voting for
that man for president.
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And he sent them all a.
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Postcard, and on the front of that postcard he identified
himself as a high priest of the Mysteries, because on
the front of his Christmas cards that he sent to
all of his followers was the penis of Osiris, the Phallus,
the obelisk with a nice red bow tied around the base,
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which represented the testees. You know what he was saying
to you? Are there any children in here?
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This is my man, he was saying, Yes.
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He was laughing at you, So was every other member
of the Illuminati. He was a highly degreed member of
the sovereign and military order, the Knights of Malta, which
was taken over in the Peasants Revolt in England by
the Knights Templars, who had sworn revenge upon the old
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Hospitalleries of Saint John's which later became the Knights of
Malta because of their role in the suppression of the Templars.
How many of you watched Trinity Network? How many of
you watched Pat Robertson. Have you ever seen the cross
in the crown? Do you know what that means? It's
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the symbol of the Templars, the Knight's Templar. It is
the symbol of the unification of the church and the
government over the people.
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What you want.
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Every time any church gets control of government, the people suffer.
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It has always happened.
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That's why our founding fathers established a country where that
was not supposed to happen where everybody was free to
worship at the altar of their choice.
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And if you think they were all of one mind,
you better think again.
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How many religions of the Protestant group do you think
existed in this country when our founding fathers put together
the constitution over fifteen hundred different groups, all claiming they
were right, teaching a different dogma, quoting scripture to justify
what they said, and everybody else was going to hell.
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So don't give you this Christian nation bullshit, because that's
what it is. This nation reflected Christian values because the
people who made up the government in the early days
were Christian, but none of them agreed with each other,
and they still don't today. They very seldom ever have.
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What do you mean by Christian Seventh day Adventist branch,
Davidian need to do some serious evaluating, some serious checking
out of agendas.
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You really want to.
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Take over the government and make it a theocracy, cause
I'm gonna tell you exactly what's gonna happen. If you
do that, You're gonna burn people at the stake who
disagree with you. And if that happens, I'm gonna have
to take up arms all over again, and so will
many of you, because you're gonna be persecuted, you see,
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because whichever one controls the government, you're gonna have to
conform to that teaching. And if you don't believe in it,
you're a heretic. Do you understand what I'm talking about?
What is our common bond? Truly freedom?
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Freedom?
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Without freedom, you can't be a Christian, no matter what
denomination you belong to.
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You can't be a Buddhist.
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You can't own a donut shop, you can't drive from
here to Oregon, you can't be an American.
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Because that's what it's all about. And it's the only
thing that it's all about. Nothing else, nothing else.
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It's about freedom, freedom, holy freedom.
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It means.
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You have to let other people be free, even if
they disagree with you. I had a tremendous admiration for
the courage of those two communists who had the guts
to walk up with their little communist sign and their
communist flag, two of their young people, all alone in
that sea of America militia uniformed patriots, and I saw
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people who wanted to kill them. Yeah, you know, I
don't like their philosophy. Their misled, misguided communism is a
terrible thing, but they had guts and they had a
great respect for them. And I believe in freedom, which
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means there is no way in the world that we
could have had that meeting on your state House grounds
this morning.
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Unless they had to write to do what they did.
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And you had better understand that, because if you stop
them from having.
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Their freedom to make their political statement.
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You have stopped yourself, you have stopped everyone, and that
must never happen in this country.
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It must never happen in this country.
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Because if it does, there'll never be another congregation like this,
and you'll never hear me speak again, because I'll be dead,
and so will most of you.
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This country is about.
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Freedom, because only with freedom can you have all of
the other things that everybody professes that they want.
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So the only way it can be done.
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I hear all crans of misconceptions and misstatements. I have
the freedom of the press.
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No you don't, No, you don't.
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The man wrongs the press as the freedom of the press,
and he can say in his press whatever he wants,
but you can't. That's why I get angry with Americans.
When they say the Jews control the press.
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Who sell it to them? How they get it? You
want the press, start a press, you want to be
on the radio. Do it.
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But stop whining, stop bitching, stop complaining.
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That guy that owns the press, that's his press.
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He can do with it what he wants, just like
you do with your car what you want, because it's
your property.
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He doesn't owe you anything unless.
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You've got a contract with his signature on it that
says he will print what you say. If you can't
produce that, he doesn't owe you anything. That's America. You
know what's wonderful about America. You can have a press.
I have a press. How many of you seen my newspaper?
That newspaper is no joke. It makes congress man cringe
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when they see it.
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It scares the.
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Hell out of the enemy. You too can have a
radio show. I'm gonna teach you how. Just hear in
just a couple of minutes. You too can publish books
like this.
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I did it. The Harvest Trust is the trust for
my children.
Speaker 4 (44:35):
I'm not rich. I don't have anything now. I financed
this book. I sold coffees before it was printed to
people who believed enough in me to buy them. I
don't have any money, and my family that's all the
wealth I ever need. I don't make any money from
my radio show. Veritas is operated in the red from
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the beginning, it probably always will.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
But I got something that you don't have. I have
a breakfast.
Speaker 4 (45:10):
It's mine and I get to say what I want,
and I get to publish what I want and print
what I want because it's mine and I'm free, and
it's my free press. That's why I don't care if
somebody calls up my radio show and say they.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Don't like what I say. Screw you, get your own show.
Speaker 4 (45:38):
I don't care that they complain because I won't let
them talk on my radio show. Screw you, get your
own radio show.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
This is mine, bogs to me. I don't have any
contract with you. I don't know you anything. I was
speaking in California one time. A lady stood up in
the middle of.
Speaker 8 (45:53):
The crowd and said, you don't make me so angry, man,
why didn't you tell me this years ago?
Speaker 4 (46:06):
She was lucky I was telling her then I didn't
know her anything. But she blamed me because she didn't
have the information that I was imparting to her on
that day years ago, and I had it years before that,
I didn't know how to do it.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
I would have, oh god, I would have.
Speaker 4 (46:27):
You know, Billy, understand sometimes what a terrible burden it
is to know some of the things that I know
and try to wake people up and impart this knowledge
to them and find out that they just have walls
built in front of them. They wanna be slaves, but
we're making some chinks from those walls.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
You too, can have a free press.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
And that's what's gonna take to get this country back
without bloodshed.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
And I'm gonna tell you right now.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
Unless we can be successful in creating a real free
press where the American people get different viewpoints other than
those expressed in the establishment controlled media, there's going to
be a civil war in this country and it's going
to come soon.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
The only thing that can.
Speaker 4 (47:16):
Stop it is by waking up vast amounts of sleeping people.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
Sheeple is what they are.
Speaker 4 (47:24):
They are following the Judas goat right into the sharing
pins and from there they will go to the slaughter
and they will not know that anything is wrong until
they smell the blood of the sheeple in front of them.
Anybody can publish a newsletter or a newspaper, anybody. It
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is not expensive, it is not difficult, and everyone in
this room should be doing it all across this country,
and everybody that you come in contact with, you should
encourage them.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
To do it.
Speaker 4 (48:00):
That we should flood this nation with information, not rumor,
not opinion, not bullshit, documented fact.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
Everything you print must be documented.
Speaker 4 (48:15):
If it's not, eventually people will stop reading your newsletter
or your newspaper because all they have to do is
check out a few things and find out it's not true,
and you're finished.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
You must publish only documented fact.
Speaker 4 (48:32):
And you must stay away from printing articles from people
who will not document as fact what they put in
their articles. That's why my broadcast scares the hell out
of socialists. That's why in a White House memorandum, I
was named as the most dangerous radio host in America.
Not because I'm going to go out and shoot somebody,
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but because I shoot documented facts which cannot be refuted.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
That's why, that's what's dangerous.
Speaker 4 (49:05):
Seek ye the truth, and the truth will make you free,
and nothing else will do it.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
Jesus Christ has never lied to anybody.
Speaker 4 (49:13):
Why won't you listen to him? Don't spread a rumor,
spread the truth, Document it, prove it, make it irrefutable,
and you too will become dangerous to those who admire
us in lies and enslave us in socialism. Anytime any
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system makes you dependent upon anybody or anything or any system,
you are enslaved. Understand that doesn't have to be chains
of iron. You don't have to be hanging up on
a wall.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
You just have to be obligated. That's all it takes.
Speaker 4 (49:58):
You too, can have your own radios station and broadcast
anything that you want. You can broadcast your own shows,
you can be your own host on that show. You
can broadcast tapes of other shows. We encourage people to
buy satellite receiving stations across this country, purchase a very
simple FM low power transmitting kit and set up their
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own FM radio station in their hometown. And we now
have over six hundred and seventy people across the nation.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
It's not expensive.
Speaker 4 (50:28):
If one person cannot afford the cost, what is wrong
with eight or ten, or fifteen or twenty of you
getting together pooling your money buying one satellite receiving station,
a small FM low power transmitter and setting up your
own broadcasting station.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
I hope you will broadcast the truth and not some agenda.
You see what.
Speaker 4 (50:53):
Happens when you broadcast the troop is you piss everybody off.
Speaker 8 (51:00):
All that.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
If you don't have my address, I want you to
write it down. It's the Harvest Trust peobots nineteen seventy.
I'll repeat it a couple of times.
Speaker 4 (51:21):
Eager Arizona, Eager spelled EA G A R Arizona eight.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
Five nine two five.
Speaker 4 (51:28):
That's the Harvest Trust pio box nineteen seventy Eager, Arizona,
eight five nine two five. If you have purchased Oklahoma
City Day one, it's on the back cover at the bottom.
If you don't have a pin and you would like
to have the address, you can go up to my
wife's table upstairs on the second floor and get one
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of our flyers. The address will be on the flyer
and all you have to do is purchase that equipment,
set it up, hook it into the satellite receiver, and
you're on the air with your own radio station within
just a few weeks, broadcasting the Worldwide Freedom Radio Network.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
Are your own shows?
Speaker 4 (52:09):
Are other networks that are up there that are patriot
broadcasting such as a Marionette and others understand this too.
I'm not trying to tell you what the truth is
because sometimes the truth is extremely difficult to find, and
sometimes we believe we're broadcasting the truth and it turns
(52:32):
out we really aren't.
Speaker 1 (52:33):
That if we find out.
Speaker 4 (52:34):
We aren't, we must be willing and instantly able to
go on the air and say we were wrong and
correct it. That's a responsibility that we all have to carry.
It's embarrassing. I've had to do it several times because
I'm a human being. I make mistakes too, the only
(52:58):
difference being when I make a mistake usually not forgivable.
Speaker 1 (53:03):
That's what happens when you become a public figure. Your
wife can make a mistake, but Rush Limball never right.
Speaker 7 (53:16):
Apps.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
I want you all to get interested in this. All
of you should be publishing a newsletter or a newspaper.
All of you should be documenting what you published.
Speaker 4 (53:29):
All of you should have a satellite receiving station and
be rebroadcasting programming to your neighborhood. All you got to
do is make sure that you're broadcasting on a frequency
that's not interfering with any other broadcast, which means you
don't just check it at your house. You get in
your car and you drive out twenty five miles and
all around, and you make sure that there's nobody else
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on that frequency before you use it, so you know
you're safe. In my little town of Eager, which is
a very small town. Between Springerville and Eager is two
miles another two miles either way, and You've covered everybody
in the valley. And I'm up on a big mountain
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in the middle of this valley where the town surrounds
the mountain, and I'm broadcasting six miles in every direction.
Speaker 1 (54:19):
In my town. And it's militia country. Arizona is dangerous
for socialists. But when the war.
Speaker 4 (54:30):
Starts, Heaven help whoever they send to fight in Arizona.
And this still really is kind of like the old
rest days in a lot of places. It's dangerous where
I live.
Speaker 1 (54:43):
I Clinton made the sheriff angry one day.
Speaker 4 (54:46):
The sheriff rode twenty five miles, grabbed Ike Clinton, buy
his hair, and drug him to jail, buy his hair,
which brings me close to the.
Speaker 1 (54:56):
End of my I think it is how much time
do I have? Uh? Three more hours?
Speaker 3 (55:06):
MK?
Speaker 2 (55:07):
Uh come back as a Jim Johns.
Speaker 8 (55:09):
A moment and you thought some more.
Speaker 4 (55:10):
Yeah, just let me let me uh, let me, let.
Speaker 1 (55:14):
Me give you a little parting, parting. No fear. I'll
be back up.
Speaker 4 (55:20):
As well with uh a, as will the others to
answer questions later. Mister Collins has to catch a plane,
so I'm gonna cut my talk short and uh uh
please give him your undivided attention. I mean to tell
you right now, because I deal in reality. I'm gonna
vote for Charles Collins. But at the same time, I'm
a realist and everybody in this room should be voting
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for Charles Collins. But at the same time, understanding he's
not gonna be the president of the United States rightly, right, okay,
And I'm only telling you that so that you're dealing
in reality. Yeah okay, but he is the best man
on any ballot in the country. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
You're listening to the Fact Hunter Radio Network. Just the facts, Mammy,
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