Classic Audio: The Truth & Lies of 9/11

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
You're listening to the Fact Hunter Radio Network. Here is
your host, George Hobbs.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Welcome back truth seekers from around the world. It's time
for another edition of our classic audio series, and tonight
we're going back two decades. One of the first big
underground truth or DVD's post nine to eleven. It's Mike
Rupert's The Truth and Lies of nine to eleven. This
run's about two and a half hours. It's very interesting.

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He kind of predicts, if you will, the financial collapse
of two thousand and eight and kind of touches on
what happened in twenty twenty. And yes there's going to
be some wholesale disagreements with him as well. Unfortunately his
life was cut short. I'm not going to get into
the whole Mike Rupert story. If you'd like to take

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the time and research, please do so. But this basically
encompasses his lecture that he delivered at Portland State University.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Again.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
He entitled it The Truth in livesvan Don eleven. So
when it came out in early two thousand and four,
we'd already invaded Afghanistan, the war in Iraq was heating up,
so there war on terror again, you don't want to
specify an enemy that way, they can have their endless wars.

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But Rupert's lecture that was recorded and passed around on
DVD and then again early online, right, it cut straight
against the official narrative. For many who saw it, it
was their first real encounter with a documented, data driven
challenge to the story that they've been fed since day one.

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But what made Rupert compelling wasn't just his passion, it
was his background. Like Ted Gunderson, right, here's a former
lapd Arcotis investigator who once publicly confronted CIA director John
Deutsch over the agency's tide to drug running. And that's
also something that mister Rupert has an interesting perspective on.

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And I'll save that you guys can listen hear what
he says, and feel free to send us an email
in your thoughts. But again, here's Rupert carrying the credibility
of someone who had worked inside the system, and he
did pay a price for speaking out. He had an
old school newsletter entitled from the Wilderness, and he had

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built a big reputation because he followed the money trails
and he exposed the dark corners of intelligence and finance.
So in this lecture he laid out his arguments that
later shaped his book entitled Crossing the Rubicon. He connects
the dots between Wall Street intelligence agencies, big corporations, war

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gains that parallel the real events which we've discussed a
lot of great points, a lot of great agendas that
he discusses. And here we are two decades later. And again,
whether you fully agree with Rupert or not, Number one,
understanding how much knowledge he had and how many things

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he ended up hitting on the head is pretty eye opening, right.
And he's one of the earlier examples who showed you
that truth seekers can easily be labeled unpatriotic. That's what
happened to him. He urged the audiences to slow down,

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examine the documents, follow the money question, the narratives that
were shaping foreign policy. And at the same time, we're
stripping away our liberties here at home. So as we
are now, just you know, three days away from the
twenty fourth anniversary of nine to eleven, listen with fresh ears.

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Don't just hear his claims. Pay attention to the connections
he draws, even if they may go against our presuppositions. Right,
the chronology he builds and the urgency in his voice.
If you only learn one thing today, you've learned something.
This is part of the historical record of descent, a

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reminder that even in times of fear, there were people
willing to stand up alongside Bill Cooper and others that said,
wait a second, look again, so again. Tonight's selection our
classic audio series is Mike Rupert's The Truth and Lies
of nine to eleven, recorded at Portland State University and

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released in January of two thousand and four. God bless
you all have a great week. We'll see you Thursday
night at eight pm Eastern Time. Here is Mike Ruper.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Tonight we have the remarkable story of a man who says,
when it comes to Los Angeles, the CIA hasn't always
played by the rules.

Speaker 5 (05:15):
The agency has dealt drugs throughout this country for a long.

Speaker 6 (05:18):
Time that you don't like flight on her Now it
began to become apparent to me that guns were going
one way and drugs were going another.

Speaker 5 (05:29):
CIA has issued a blanket response to all of this,
denying any involvements. My name is Mike Rupert or Uppert.
I did bring this information out eighteen years ago, and
I got shot at and forced out of LAPD because
of it.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
I've been on the record for eighteen years.

Speaker 6 (05:45):
We got on record everywhere we could, so that if
I did get killed, we would know, you know, somebody
would know that somebody was saying something was wrong with CIA.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Hello, I'm Mike Ruper.

Speaker 5 (05:58):
It has been twenty eight months since the attacks of
September eleventh changed our world forever. As I wrote recently,
the events in the five years following the attacks of
nine to eleven will determine the course of human history
for the next five hundred years. That prediction is proving
to be true. Within three months of those attacks, I
and my publication From the Wilderness had, using unimpeachable research materials,

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assembled a clear picture of what was driving world events.
We had shown that the US government had ample warning
to have prevented the attacks and did not. We had
shown that the US and global economies were corrupt and
on the verge of collapse. That the US economy was
particularly dependent upon the flow of hundreds of billions of
dollars from the illegal drug trade. Since the US occupation

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of Afghanistan in November two thousand and one, at a
time when the Taliban had destroyed more than ninety percent
of all opium production. Afghanistan has, under CIA and US
military control once again become the largest producer of the
open and poppy, accounting for seventy percent of the world's supply.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
In spite of.

Speaker 5 (07:05):
That, more than two million new Americans have become unemployed,
and the total number of unemployed is higher than at
any time since the Great Depression. According to the Reuter's
News Service, the number of Americans living in poverty is
thirty four point six million. Most importantly, we accurately described
something called peak oil. That is the fact that in

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one hundred years, mankind has used half of all the
oil and natural gas that has ever been created, and
that from now on the world will have to cope
with ever diminishing supplies of hydrocarbon energy, even as demand
is increasing exponentially. We described the war that Dick Cheney
told us would not end in our lifetimes as a
sequential war to control the last remaining oil reserves on

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the planet. We specifically stated that the Middle East, Columbia,
and Venezuela were on the agenda. We have been proved
right on every count. The years since I gave this
lecture at Portland State University, our subscribers have benefited for
more than one hundred separate articles which.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Have kept them ahead of the game.

Speaker 5 (08:09):
With the occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq, both of which
have become costly guerrilla conflicts, and with the exposure of
the Bush administration's deceptions about nine to eleven and the
threats posed by Saddam Hussein, we have seen the seeds
for new conflicts being planted in West Africa Venezuela and Colombia,
as well as in the Far East, Indonesia and Korea.

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In each of these places there are reserves of oil
and gas or strategic transit routes that can help to
meet supply needs for whoever controls them. The endgame for
all this struggle is China, whose oil imports were recently
predicted by the Japan Times to increase by five hundred
percent before the year twenty thirty. What we did not
know at the time that we made this tape, a

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fact which was not known even to the oil companies
who were drilling there, was that an anticipated bonanza of
oil from the Caspian Sea basin and Kazakhstan was proving
to be a major disappointment. As one oil expert told
a May two thousand three conference on peak oil in
Paris which I was attending, quote twenty out of twenty
five wells sunk in the Caspian Basin between two thousand

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and two thousand three have resulted in dry holes. What
was thought to be a reserve holding as much as
two hundred billion barrels of oil has shown itself to
be a series of isolated pockets totaling no more than
forty billion barrels. Planet Earth consumes a billion barrels of
oil every eleven and a half days. That oil may

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never reach Western markets because of the drilling, pumping, and
transportation investment required. As this realization came to pass, the
oil reserves of the Middle East have become all the
more important for the industrialized world. Sixty percent of all
recoverable oil is in the Middle East. That helps to
explain the sudden shift in US policy away from Afghanistan
and towards Iraq in two thousand two. So explains the

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desperation behind the sloppy and fraudulent efforts to get the
US into Iraq at whatever cost, even if that prevented
the re election of the Bush administration or its exposure
to impeachable charges over forged documents, the outing of CIA
counter terror personnel, and many other criminal activities. Eleven percent
of all recoverable oil in the world.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Is in Iraq.

Speaker 5 (10:23):
In the meantime, in spite of some resistance by the
US Congress and state and local governments against the Patriot Act,
American civil liberties continue.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
To be trashed.

Speaker 5 (10:32):
New laws, such as the Homeland Security Bill, permit the
US government to forcibly vaccinate American citizens against their will,
and then prosecute them as criminals if they refuse to
accept untested vaccines. This even as the vaccine makers have
been granted absolute legal immunity. If you or your family
dropped dead after receiving the shots, there's no one to sue.

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And critical shortages of natural gas have prevented the building
of new electrical generating infrastructure and threatened the production of
commercial fertilizers. Is food production for an exploding population becomes
a critical issue, All commercial fertilizers are made from natural gas.
Mankind stands at the brink of the most important moment

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it has ever faced. Alternative energy sources are vastly overrated,
and none of them, in any combination, can replace what
oil and natural gas have done for mankind in the
last one hundred years. Even if they could, the infrastructure
and investment and building needed to implement these solutions should
have begun thirty years ago, when the United States passed

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its own irreversible peak of production. Since I gave this
lecture on The Truth and Lives of nine to eleven,
I have given more than thirty five additional lectures in
seven countries around the world, from Australia to Germany. With
each lecture, I have updated this presentation with new material,
and sadly, now once have I had to say that

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we had it wrong from the start. So please sit
back now and watch our film, The Truth than Lies
of nine to eleven, and begin to understand how deeply
all of our lives are threatened. Then come join us
at from the Wilderness dot Com and become one of
our more than twelve thousand subscribers. With each new subscription,
our ability to bring you better and more comprehensive reporting expands,

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even as the world becomes a more dangerous place to live.
The answers our answers, our children's answers can only be
found when we come to understand the real map that
we are traveling on.

Speaker 7 (13:07):
Mister speaker, members, I rise today really with a very
heavy heart, one that is filled with sorrow for the
families and the loved ones who were killed and injured
this week. Only the most foolish and the most calous
would not understand the grief that has really gripped our
people and millions across the world. This unspeakable act on

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the United States has really forced me, however, to rely
on my moral compass, my conscience, and my God for
a direction. September eleventh changed the world. Our deepest fear
is now haunt us. Yet I am convinced that military
action will not prevent further acts of international terrorism against

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the United States.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
This is a.

Speaker 7 (13:56):
Very complex and complicated matter. Now this resolution will pass,
although we all know that the President can wage a
war even without it. However difficult this vote may be,
some of us must urge the use of restraint. Our

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country is in a state of mourning. Some of us
must say, let's step back for a moment. Let's just pause,
just for a minute and think through the implications of
our actions today so that this does not spiral out
of control.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Now.

Speaker 7 (14:35):
I have agonized over this vote, but I came to
grips with it today, and I came to grips with
opposing this resolution during the very painful yet very beautiful
memorial service, as a member of the clergy so eloquently said,

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as we act, let us not become the evil that
we deplore.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Thank you to Meterest, and thank all of you.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
I am unbelievably gratified to see so many people here tonight.
I almost got up here and said, Hi, my name
is Mike. I'm an alcoholic. But I think I'm at
the wrong meeting.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
I guess we're going to talk about.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
A lot of things tonight that are very difficult, a
lot of things tonight that are very challenging, a lot
of things that will test and try many of us
in the months and the years to come. But we're
going to have a certain approach to this, and it's
the only kind of approach that I have found in

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twenty three years that works when you're challenging a government
that no longer serves the interests of the people. I'd
like to start off by asking a question like a
show of hands, How many people in the room tonight
believe that Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone gunman and

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solely responsible for the murder of John F.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Kennedy.

Speaker 5 (16:22):
Show of hands, two hands, and they're both joking. How
many people in the room tonight believe.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
That the war that is now.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
Taking place and getting ready to move all over the
world is solely the result of the attacks on the
World Trade Center on September the eleventh.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Okay, all right, great.

Speaker 5 (16:49):
The approach that we're going to take tonight is very straightforward.
I was for some short period of time, not as
much as I wanted to be instigator with LAPD. I
worked narcotics, I was loan to detectives. I worked a
homicide table, I worked at burglary table and an auto
theft table for a while. And there is a procedure

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that you follow when you are presenting evidence.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
There is a way that you.

Speaker 5 (17:15):
Structure evidence to avoid speculation, and there is a way
to fight this government. And before we start into the
details on September the eleventh, I want to show you
two dramatic examples. I have two short clips of video
that I would like to show you. If we can
run the first one. This will set the tone for

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what we're going to talk about tonight and what we're
not going to talk about tonight.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
For thirty eight years.

Speaker 5 (17:44):
As of November twenty second, just a few days ago,
we have had a videotape showing clearly that John F.
Kennedy was shot from the front and not the back
where the Warrant Commission says that Lee Harvey Oswald was
up and behind to the right in the Texas school
Book Depository. You look at this tape and there is clear,

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convincing and controvertible evidence. Yet, what good has it done us?
What has it done to change the government?

Speaker 1 (18:17):
What has it done?

Speaker 5 (18:18):
What has what have we, meaning the American people, accomplished
with this piece of video that shows his head moving
backwards as a result of a bullet impact from the
front of his head.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
It hasn't changed anything. I want you to bear that
in mind.

Speaker 5 (18:34):
Because I'm going to use the word you a lot tonight,
and by you, I mean the American people.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
I'm talking to you as if I was talking to all.

Speaker 5 (18:43):
Two hundred and eighty million people in this country, and
I'm going to say some things that are going to
be kind of backing you into a corner, and that
is my direct intent. So some of the things we
are not going to talk about tonight are speculations about.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
The attacks on September the eleventh.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
We are not going to talk about where there are
explosives in the building, where the planes piloted by remote control,
any of those questions, because those are speculative questions that
produce the same kind of results that we just saw
on the tape. After thirty eight years. You can play
that all you want and it doesn't change anything. There

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are people who have been talking about the Oklahoma City
bombing since it.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Happened in nineteen ninety five.

Speaker 5 (19:31):
We have videotape of US military personnel machine gunning the
branch Davidians at Waco. We have proof up the galore.
We're not here looking tonight for proof. We're not going
to go home and have armchaired discussions because what's at
stake now is our freedom. What's at stake now is

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our future. This is no more time to go home,
and you'll see that before I'm through tonight. Now, there
is another way to take on the government. There is
another way to take on the lunacy of the mass media,
and that is by using their own statements and their
own evidence against them to prove that they are lying.

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Because if you're in this room tonight, you are probably
already the choir. Our safety, our future, our liberty, our country,
and maybe the planet depends upon us reaching out to
the millions of people out there who are still waving
the flag, still believing that this is a war like

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they're being sold on CNN. Now, I'm going to play
another tape now, and I'm going to show you what
happens when you confront the government with their own information
head on. This is a confrontation I had with the
Director of Central Intelligence John Deutsch at Locke High School
in nineteen ninety six over the issue of the CIA
bringing drugs into Los Angeles. I want you to watch

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his hands very carefully after I confront him, Sir.

Speaker 8 (21:02):
The man and the.

Speaker 5 (21:03):
Scotswoman Wanita Millander MacDonald of Compton, I will be coming
back over. I am a former Los Angeles Police narcotics
executive and I work South central Los Angeles and I
will tell you Director Deutsch emphatically.

Speaker 8 (21:16):
And the mic don't seem to.

Speaker 5 (21:19):
Be I will tell you Director Deutsch has a former
Los Angeles Police narcotics detective, that the agency has dealt
drugs throughout this country for a long time.

Speaker 9 (21:41):
All right, all right, all right, obviously that is an
answer for a lot of you.

Speaker 8 (21:48):
Now, all right, now, can you please I refer direct
wait wait, wait, wait one minutes, Wait.

Speaker 9 (22:06):
A minute, wait a minute here, wait a minute.

Speaker 8 (22:11):
If you don't like what's going on here, please lead now. No no, no, lead, no, no, no
lead now.

Speaker 9 (22:19):
But if there are others who do want to hear
what's going on in this room, will you please take
your stats. I will come back to you. As we
rode back across to the center.

Speaker 5 (22:30):
Section, Director Deutsch, I will refer you to three specific
agency operations known as Amadaeus, Pegasus, and Watchtower. I have
watched Tower documents heavily redacted by the agency. I was
personally exposed to CIA operations and recruited by CIA personnel
who attempted to recruit me in the late seventies to

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become involved in protecting agency drug operations in this country.
I have been trying to get this out for eighteen years,
and I have the evidence. My question you is very specific, Sir,
if in the course of the IG's investigations and Fred
Hits's work. You come across evidence of severely criminal activity
and it's classified. Will you use that classification to hide

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the criminal activity? Or will you tell the American people
the truth?

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Watch his hands? Watch his hands?

Speaker 2 (23:28):
All right?

Speaker 9 (23:28):
You want to hear the response first from Congressman Julian
Dixon and then from the directory. Wait a minute from
your from your I'm.

Speaker 8 (23:42):
Sorry, sir, I will allow the.

Speaker 10 (23:45):
Directors to speak first, and then Congressman Julian Dixon.

Speaker 11 (23:50):
If you have information about CIA illegal activity in drugs,
you should immediately bring that information to wherever you want.
But let me suggest three places. The Los Angeles Police Department.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Got you.

Speaker 8 (24:14):
To please if I'm sorry.

Speaker 9 (24:19):
Others want to hear this answer. I am sorry, others
want to hear this answer.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
It is your choice.

Speaker 11 (24:29):
The Los Angeles Police Department, the Inspector General, or an
office of one of your congress persons.

Speaker 8 (24:37):
From this, I got shot at for it. Wait a minute,
Wait a minute, Wait a.

Speaker 9 (24:47):
Minute, wait a minute, Wait a minute, sir and sir,
you have not gotten the mic yet you are not,
but wait a minute.

Speaker 8 (24:56):
Then don't stick out of turn.

Speaker 11 (24:57):
Let me say something else. If this is information turns
up wrongdoing. If it turns up wrongdoing, we will bring
the people to justice and make them account.

Speaker 8 (25:15):
All right, Congress, mendiction.

Speaker 12 (25:18):
Thank you, Thank you Sarah for coming.

Speaker 8 (25:21):
Wait wait, wait, wait a minute here. I thought you
did not want to be here, but now that you.

Speaker 9 (25:28):
Are here, please let us here and listen.

Speaker 8 (25:32):
Thank you very.

Speaker 13 (25:33):
Much, sir.

Speaker 12 (25:35):
I want to thank you for coming. You were at
the last meeting. The staff probably had the spelling.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Of your name wrong, but we know they didn't. Would
like to talk to you.

Speaker 14 (25:46):
We have been looking for a couple of days for you.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
And we want to.

Speaker 12 (25:55):
We want to make sure that you contact the committee
because because obviously you have some valuable information.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
If you want to give it to me privately, if.

Speaker 14 (26:05):
You want to hand it to that aid where I
can contact you this evening, please do it.

Speaker 12 (26:10):
Don't let us get away without getting a contact for you.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Thank you, sir.

Speaker 12 (26:14):
I'm to it now so everyone can see that I
got it.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
I would be fine, Thank you, sir.

Speaker 10 (26:19):
And for the record, for the record, keep the noise
down so that we can hear and we can get answers.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
For the record, my name is Mike Rupert.

Speaker 8 (26:32):
Are you p P. E.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Ert.

Speaker 5 (26:34):
I did bring this information out eighteen years ago, and
I got shot at and forced out of LAPD because
of it. I've been on the record for eighteen years NonStop,
and I'll be happy to give you, Congressman, anything that
I had.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Right.

Speaker 5 (26:50):
I have to tell you that that was probably the
most fun I've ever had in my life, although tonight
may may top that. You can if you can kill
the blue on the best, he are there. What happened
after this was John Deutsch was guaranteed an appointment by
Bill Clinton to become the next Secretary of Defense. My

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confrontation with John Deutsch cost him that appointment. My good friend,
my good friend Dick Gregory, who I just did a
radio show with on Thanksgiving Day, called me up and
said he said he was talking to some people in
Washington and they just chewed him up one side and

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down the other because he looked like a fool. Everybody
here seeing the Wizard of Oz, everybody here seeing the
man behind the curtain. We have to get to the
man behind the curtain, but it's going to be a
little bit scarier than that movie was to do that.
So let's take an approach to September.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
The eleventh, along the lines.

Speaker 5 (28:00):
Of an investigator presenting a case to a grand jury,
or along the lines of a detective presenting.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
A case to a district attorney. First of all, who
am I. We're going to go through this really quickly.

Speaker 5 (28:15):
I had the misfortune of being born into a family
that was heavily rooted in the intelligence community. My mother
was a cryptographer and cryptanalyst for the Army Security Agency
and National Security Agency. During World War Two, she worked
for Secretary of State Cordell Hull.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
She worked on the Japanese and Russian codes.

Speaker 5 (28:37):
By the way, we did know the Japs were going
to attack Pearl Harbor, and we did let it happen.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
This is evidence that I would present.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
This is my mother's separation from the NSA in December
nineteen forty nine because she was going to have babies.
She didn't have me until fifty one. But my dad
was also recalled into the Air Force during the Korean War.
He went to work for Martin Marietta and I went
to work on projects like the Titan three C, which
put up all the CIA's keyhole spice satellites. Relatives of

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my father were oss that's the forerunner of CIA, and
they were career at CIA and Langley, so everybody in
the family had a clearance. I used to come home
from school and say what's for dinner and Mom would say,
I can't tell you.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
That's a joker. Hope. Now, what I need is a
way to do this so that I don't get them
all whagged.

Speaker 5 (29:31):
Up here, continuing with the presentation, there's a couple of
points I want to make here in Portland. This is
one of my rating reports from LAPD, showing and outstanding rating.
Showing also that I have especially in the field of
narcotics enforcement and investigative procedures. I was loaned to Wilshair
Division Narcotics several times and specialized in narcotics. I was

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even sent to a training school by the US Department
of Justice and the DEA, which I attended. You don't
get that for writing parking tickets. And the reason why
I say this is because the ranking member of LAPD
in the room that day when I confronted John Deutsch
told Ted Copple that I had never worked narcotics, and

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that got me pulled from a live interview with Ted Copple.
The ranking member of LAPD in the room that day
was Deputy Chief Mark Croker. Yeah, I'm having fun already.

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Now I want to talk about CIA dealing drugs briefly,
because I have to lay a foundation. You have to
understand the economic and the political context in which this
war is taking place and in which it is set.
And there's two things that if you don't understand, you
will never understand. September the eleventh, One is drugs. The
other is oil. Or one is oil, the other is drugs. Okay,

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we want to talk about evidence. We want to talk
about proof.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (31:05):
This is a memorandum that was written February eleventh, nineteen
eighty two, to the Honorable William J.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Casey.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
Everybody remember Bill Casey from Iran Contra CIA Director, signed
by Attorney General William French Smith.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
This was at the beginning of the Countra.

Speaker 5 (31:22):
War, very early in the Reagan administration, and something had
happened before this. There had been a series of negotiations.
Now in the CIA, the highest rung on the food
chain is called an officer. If you are a case
officer at CIA, you are someone who cannot be disavowed
or denied. You are a man of the cloth. You
are a man blessed with immunity. The agency will protect you.

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But underneath that, on the food chain, they have career agents,
contract agents, foreign agents, informants, they have proprietary companies, employees
of there's a whole category of people. Two, Because the
CIA knew there was going to be a massive explosion
in cocaine trafficking, that they were going to control US

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cocaine consumption went from roughly eighty metric tons in nineteen
seventy nine to six hundred metric tons by nineteen eighty seven.
Think about that for a minute. That's it's a lot
of coke, all right. They knew that was coming, all right.
So one of the things they did legally because the

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agency and the government they always find paper ways to
try to cover their trail and they think nobody will
catch them. One of my favorite lines of all time,
and for the first one hundred of you who got
here you got a free copy of my last issue
from the Wilderness, is from Alan Dulles, who when the
Warrant Commission report was released, all however many volumes there were,
and you read those volumes and you know that Lee

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Harvey Oswald didn't kill John Kennedy and Alan Dulless said,
the American people don't read.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
You don't read. This memorandum says, first of.

Speaker 5 (33:05):
All, they took all the people who were not case
officers and they decided to call them non employees of
the Central Intelligence Agency. There's a federal law stating that
if a federal employee breaks a federal law, you have
to report him. They were caught on the horns of
a dilemma. So first they said, well, all these people
are not employees, even though they get CIA paychecks. And

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then they said, in light of these provisions, and in
view of the fine, fine cooperation the Drug Enforcement Administration
has received from CIA, no formal requirement regarding the reporting
of narcotics violations has been included in these procedures. That's
black and white evidence of a conspiracy.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
The Attorney General of the United States just told the.

Speaker 5 (33:52):
CIA director he no longer had to report it when
anybody other than a case officer was dealing drugs. Let's
look at something else about how cynical these people are. Now.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
I've been studying CIA in the drug.

Speaker 5 (34:08):
Trade for about twenty three years, and this is one
of my favorite documents of all time. Some twenty eight
one thirty hercules were smuggled by the CIA and the
Pentagon through the US Forest Service into private hands, supposedly
for the purpose of fighting forest fires. The problem was
is that some of them turned up in Peru, in Mexico,

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in Panama, in Angola, in Iran and Iraq running covert
missions for the CIA. One of these one thirties was
caught in Mexico City.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Aro Postal de Mexico.

Speaker 5 (34:41):
Had it with a billion dollars worth of cocaine on board.
The Forest Service, having let these airplanes out, found itself
in a kind of embarrassing position, so they had their
lawyers work on it and noticed the last sentence, DoD
is the Department of Defense. Apparently, DoD thinks that by

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having the Forest Service as the intermediary of any future
aircraft are used in drug smuggling, the Forest Service and
not DoD will suffer the adverse publicity.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
They don't care about stopping it. They care about who's
going to take the blame.

Speaker 5 (35:17):
It is possible to nail these people, but you have
to know how.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
To approach.

Speaker 5 (35:26):
The main reason why the CIA deals drugs is for
one reason and one reason only. It's not to fund
covert operations. The main reason is not to weed out
the gene pool, although I will tell you and I
have proven that have been deliberately targeted. But the CIA
brings in more drugs than all the African Americans could

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use in this country. The main reason the CIA deals
drugs is to support the US economy. Let's take a
look for a second. I don't know if you can
read this in the back, but i'll call the names out.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
We're going to see something that's very unusual here. The
National Security.

Speaker 5 (36:05):
Act of nineteen forty seven created the CIA. It was
written by a man named Clark Clifford, who was a
longtime aide to Harry Truman. Okay, Clark Clifford's profession.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Was he was a Wall Street banker and lawyer.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
Clark Clifford is also the man who brought a bank
called BCCI into the United States in the nineteen eighties,
a drug money laundering bank that was exposed for laundering
drug money.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
The design for the CIA.

Speaker 5 (36:44):
In other words, the people who told Clifford how to
write the act were two brothers, John Foster and Alan Dulles.
The Dulles brothers dull Duller and Dullest John Foster Dulles
was Secretary of State in Dwight Eisenhower. Alan Dulles was
the DCI not from eighty one to eighty seven. He

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was the DCI from I think roughly nineteen fifty three
until about sixty one in the Bay of Pigs when
John F.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
Kennedy fired him.

Speaker 5 (37:15):
You know what their profession was Wall Street lawyers at
the law firm of Sullivan and Cromwell, which is today
the most powerful law firm on Wall Street.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Bill Casey, the man we just saw.

Speaker 5 (37:35):
The memo address too. We know he was Ronald Reagan's DCI.
What did Bill Casey do for Richard Nixon? He was
Chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission. Stanley Smorken, one

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of my favorite turkeys, was CIA General Council during the eighties.
He used to email back and forth with Oliver North
Dear Stanley to Ali.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Stanley to Ali was very funny. Okay, do you.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
Know what he did before he became He was the
General counsel to the SEC Securities in Exchange Commission, charged
with monitoring all securities transactions. David Daherty CIA General Counsel
after Stanley Sporken.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
You know what he does today the executive vice president
of the New York Stock Exchange for enforcement. Isn't that great?

Speaker 5 (38:50):
And then we have a gentleman by the name of
ab Buzzy cron Guard, and we're gonna hear a lot
about Buzzy cron Guard tonight. Buzzy cron Guard is currently
the CIA executive Director. The top three positions are DCI,
Director of Central Intelligence DDI, Deputy Director of Intelligence, and
Executive Director. Buzzy Krongard was until nineteen ninety eight the

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head of an investment bank called ab Brown. Ab Brown
is involved in insider trading connected to September the eleventh.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
He's a Wall Street banker.

Speaker 5 (39:31):
As a matter of fact, six out of seven of
the first deputy directors of Intelligence came to CIA from
Wall Street.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
The mission of the CIA is to control.

Speaker 5 (39:44):
Money and cash flow for the benefit not of you
and me, but for the benefit of the banks and
the stockbrokerage houses and all of the interests that control
US politics.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Now, the US economy is in.

Speaker 5 (39:59):
Deep trouble, but the level of criminality in this government
and in this country has become so overt in the
last two years that the stink is becoming hard for
people to ignore. This is a story from the Associated Press,
June twenty seventh, nineteen ninety nine.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
New York Stock Exchange chief.

Speaker 5 (40:21):
That's a guy by the name of Dick Grasso hops
on an airplane in New York City and flies to Bogota, Columbia,
hops in an armor plate at limousine and drives up
to the foothills in the mountains that are occupied by
the fart Gorillas who occupy a.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Third of Colombia. They tax the Coca.

Speaker 5 (40:39):
Everybody in Coca in Colombia deals drugs.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
But what did he ask them to do?

Speaker 5 (40:45):
He asked the fark Gorillas to invest their drug profits
in Wall Street.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
There's an AP story right there.

Speaker 5 (40:53):
He didn't say stop dealing drugs, it's bad for our kids.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
He said, let us manage your drug money.

Speaker 5 (41:02):
The fark said, we think we would rather keep our
money in Colombia for the benefit of Colombians.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Why should we send it to New York.

Speaker 5 (41:10):
And what happened a year later was Bill Clinton announced
planned Columbia. And don't get me wrong here, Colombia is
on the list of countries where this administration is planning
to go to war.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Because there's also oil there. All right, I'm still laying a.

Speaker 5 (41:24):
Foundation, but we're getting ready to move into September eleventh.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Let's look at a little history of the Bush family.
I'm having a lot of fun. Okay.

Speaker 5 (41:39):
This is from a book called The Unauthorized Biography of
George Bush, which is an extremely well researched book, and
everything that they put in here is sourced. If we
go to George Herbert Walker Bush's father, Prescott Bush. He
was the managing director of a firm called Brown Brothers Harriman.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
During the thirties and forties.

Speaker 5 (42:01):
Brown Brothers Herreman financed Adolf Hitler before.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
And during World War II.

Speaker 5 (42:09):
Brown Brothers Herreman got involved with the Hamburg steamship line.
They got involved with a number of companies and front organizations.
The channeled money directly to Adolf Hitler, and they did
not stop that relationship when the war began.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
As a matter of fact, one.

Speaker 5 (42:24):
Particular firm, it was a bank affiliated it was the
Union Bank affiliated with the Tissen that's tys Sen Steel
Trust managed by Prescott Busch, produced fifty point eight percent
of Nazi Germany's pig iron forty one point four percent
of Nazi Germany's universal plate, thirty six percent of Germany's,

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Nazi Germany's heavy plate, thirty eight and a half percent
of Nazi Germany's galvanized steel, forty five and a half
percent of Nazi Germany's pipes and tubes, twenty two percent
of Nazi Germany's wire, and thirty five percent of Nazi
Germany's explosives. It was so egregious and offensive that we

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find that in nineteen forty two, under the Trading with
the Enemy Act, the US government took over the Union
Banking Corporation in which Prescott Bush was a director, and
they seized the assets. That's our current president's grandfather. Now
we know that our current president's father went out of
his way to arm Saddam Hussein. How many people remember Iraqgate?

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I have an excellent story on that. There's monstrous, wonderful
sourcing on the fact that George Herbert Walker Bush created
the enemy which he fought in nineteen ninety one, and
so it is currently with Osama bin Laden. Now, how
important is drug money? The International Monetary Fund published a

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report in January of this year, so showing that one
point five trillion dollars trillion with a key a year
is laundered through the world banking system. Of that, according
to Lemande, and according to the US Department of Justice,
it's very safe to say that five hundred billion to
six hundred billion dollars of that is directly the result

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of the drug trade. Why is drug cash important? How
many people here have.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
A credit card? All right now, I want you to
be real truthful when you answer this. When you open
your credit card bill every month, what do you look
at first?

Speaker 5 (44:35):
I want everybody looks first as at the.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Total balance owing on the card? Raise your hand.

Speaker 5 (44:44):
How many of you look first at the minimum monthly
payment required?

Speaker 1 (44:51):
How many of you pay your credit cards off in
full every month? I'm impressed.

Speaker 5 (45:00):
It is that the United States economy, and I was
at an economic conference in Moscow in March of this year,
has derivatives. Derivatives are anything that's not related to anything
of value. It's like stock futures, it's calls, it's puts,
its options. It's has a derivatives bubble of three hundred
trillion dollars.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Twenty trillion of.

Speaker 5 (45:21):
That alone is connected to JP Morgan Chase, which is
about ready to go under thanks to Enron and watch
that very closely.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (45:29):
Just in March of this year, we had a wonderful
piece of evidence come up from Senator Carl Levin's Minority
report to the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, and it
was a report on correspondent banks and money laundering. Now,
this is a story from the Washington Post dated February fifth.

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It says inattention and disinterest by US banks in screening
the foreign banks they take as clients has allowed rogue
foreign banks not rogue, and their criminal clients to carry
on money laundering and other criminal activity in the United
States and to benefit.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
From the protections afforded by.

Speaker 5 (46:06):
The safety and the soundness of the US banking industry,
said Senator Carl Levin of Michigan.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Specifically mentions JP Morgan.

Speaker 5 (46:18):
Chase on the next page, four thousand offshore banks to
launder money into the United States, one trillion dollars laundered annually.
That's conservative money laundered in which the Clinton administration declared
a national security threat. Not true, It's a national asset

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as far as Wall Street is concerned. Carl Levin said,
five hundred billion dollars moved through the US banking system
in drug money every year.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
That's liquid cash. And you want to know how important.

Speaker 5 (46:54):
Liquid cash in this one, there's a saying one of
my dear friends and colleagues and mentors, Katherine Austin Fitz
is a former Assistant Secretary of Housing.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
She was a managing director of Dylan Reid on Wall Street.

Speaker 5 (47:05):
She says cash flow is everything, and then an economy
that's on the verge of a major implosion without cash flow,
the crash is guaranteed. Now, CIA's role is to make
sure that as much of that drug money comes through
the US economy as possible.

Speaker 15 (47:25):
When I was a little girl, I grew up at
forty eighth in Largewood in West Philadelphia, and the Solari
index was one hundred percent. The Solari index is the
index that I used to describe the well being of
a neighborhood. It's the percent of people in a neighborhood
who believe that a child can leave their home, go
to the nearest place to buy a popsicle, and come

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home alone safely. It was unthinkable that a child wasn't
safe at forty eighth in Largewood in West Philadelphia in
the nineteen fifties, the Solari index was one hundred percent
and the Dow Jones Index was probably about five hundred.
Today it's reverse. The Dow Jones Index is very high
at about ten thousand, and the Selary index is at

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very low in West Philadelphia and very low throughout the
United States. And why is that. It's because one of
the ways that we've financed the growth of multinational corporations
and big banks and the rise of the Dow Jones
is by selling narcotics to our children. It's one of
the most profitable businesses in America. About a year ago,

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I gave a speech called How the Money Works on
Organized Crime to a wonderful group of people in Philadelphia.
They have a conference every year. They go off into
the woods for about three days and talk about how
they can help our culture, our world spiritually evolve. So
I gave my presentation on how the Money Works as
organized crime, describing what is arguably the biggest, most profitable

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industry in the United States today, And towards the end,
we were discussing the fact that the Department of Justice
estimates that the United States is the leader in laundering
organized crime profits of about five hundred billion to a
trillion dollars a year. So I asked the audience what
would happen if we stopped being the worldwide leader and

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laundering five hundred billion to a trillion a year. And
they said, well, you know, if we stopped, our mutual
funds would go down in price, the stock market would crash.
I said, well, what else would happen?

Speaker 16 (49:26):
So they said, well, you.

Speaker 15 (49:27):
Know, we might have trouble financing the government deficit because
in fact, the people who control fifty years of accumulated profits,
that's a lot of capital that we need to finance
our deficit. So I said, okay, well I'll tell you what.
There's there's a Let's pretend there's a big red button
right up here in the lecture and right in front
of me, and if you push that button, you can

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stop all organized crime in America, and you can stop
America laundering five hundred million to a trillion dollars if
organized crime profits every year? Who here will push the button?
And out of one hundred people only one person would
push the button. And I said, okay, so what you're
saying is you want a whole armada of people to

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sell drugs to your children. And grandchildren to keep your
mutual funds up and your government checks coming. And they said, yes,
that's right.

Speaker 16 (50:21):
Now.

Speaker 15 (50:21):
There are many ways to change that. There are many
ways to re engineer our financial system and our resources
so that the Solary Index and the Dow Jones can
be friends. So that when we get the Solary indecks
to go up by making sure our neighborhoods are safe
for children, the real estate can go up and value,
the small businesses go up in value. There are many
ways to make the Solari Index in the Dow Jones friends.

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But before we can do that, before we can have
that conversation, we have to face what's happening. We have
to face that we are addicted to drug profits. Because
if we can't face it, God can't fix it.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (50:58):
This is a copy of the cover sheet of the report.
It's on the world Wide Web. If you want to
go search for it. You can just look for the
report on Correspondent Banking. Okay, And that's a copy of
the report. It's an incredible read. What they don't tell
you and there, of course, is that the US economy
is dependent upon that drug money, among other things.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Yes, now let's go a little further. Got I love this.

Speaker 5 (51:26):
If this gentleman down here in the black jacket walks
into a bank with a deposit of ten thousand and
one dollars, so everybody understand that the bank has to
fill out a report and send it to the US
Treasury indicating.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
That he might be a money launderer. But did you
happen to know that under US laws there are certain.

Speaker 5 (51:46):
Classes of business that are exempt from making currency transaction reports.
Included in those are a bank, obviously a department or
agency of the US government CIA does not have to
fill out currency transaction reports. And entity established under the
laws of any state. Yeah, yeah, yeah, But you come

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down to this one. A listed entity other than a
bank who's common or analogous equity interests are listed on
the New York Stock Exchange or American Stock Exchange.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Or designated as a NASDAQ.

Speaker 5 (52:20):
National Market Security. If you have a company that trades
on Wall Street, you can launder all the money you
want to.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
It's legal. Gee. Now, I'm just laying a little groundwork
here for you before we get to September eleventh. We're
getting there.

Speaker 5 (52:43):
Just last year, group of companies were called into me
with Janet Reno, who's not probably the most ethical person
that ever lived, and Secretary of State Stewart excuse me,
the Deputy Treasury Secretary stud Eisenstadt, and these companies Hewlett Packard, Ford, Sony,

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General Motors, Whirlpool, General Electric, and Philip Morris were called
in to the Department of Justice for.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
The amount of drug money they were laundering.

Speaker 5 (53:16):
Basically, the message was, you guys, cool it. Okay, it's
getting like out of hand. Now, let me ask a
question this gentleman right here. What's your name?

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Kevin? Kevin is a drug lord.

Speaker 5 (53:30):
Kevin is the is the king of all drugs in
South America. Okay, all right, and let's say this young
lady right down here with the glasses. What's your name?

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Ronda?

Speaker 5 (53:44):
Ronda is the executive vice president of General Motors for
the Southern Hemisphere or South America.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
Okay, Kevin, you.

Speaker 5 (53:53):
Call up Ronda one day and you say, I'd like
one hundred Chevy Suburbans, armor plated, custom built at thirty
thousand dollars each, and I'll pay cash.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Ronda, what are you going to say to that offer?

Speaker 8 (54:07):
All right, all.

Speaker 5 (54:11):
Right, now, Kevin's got money that he can't spend because
of drug money. But now he's got one hundred Chevy Subourbon's.
But let's say now that god gentleman with his hand
on his chin right there, right there, what's your now?

Speaker 16 (54:25):
You?

Speaker 1 (54:25):
What's your name? Brian?

Speaker 5 (54:28):
Brian is Jack Welch, the chairman of General Electric? Okay, now, Kevin,
you're really good. Okay, you got two hundred million dollars
that you got to move.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Okay, so you.

Speaker 5 (54:43):
Call up Jack Welch's assistant, special accounts assistant. You'd say,
I'd like to open in South America Kevin's Appliances. I'd
like to buy two hundred million dollars of everything GE
has because I'm going to open.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
This appliance store and I'll pay you cash.

Speaker 5 (54:58):
Now, Jack Welch at GE, do you say.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Right on, let's do this deal. Now.

Speaker 5 (55:04):
By the way, who owns NBC General Electric, MSNBC, CNBC,
all the NBCs? Okay, now, let's just take a look
at that for one quick second, very quickly. A price
to earnings ratio p TOE market capitalization.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
It's very simple.

Speaker 5 (55:22):
If you have a company that has ten thousand shares
and each share sells for ten dollars, did I say
a thousand shares one thousand shares ten dollars. Your market
capitalization is ten thousand dollars. You multiply the share price
by the number of shares market capitalization.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
You divide that by net profits. In other words, what you.

Speaker 5 (55:44):
Sell les the cost of doing business, and you come
up with the ratio. This is how they value the
stock market. Okay, So if you have a company that
has a three hundred million dollar market capitalization and a.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Ten million dollar off it, the price to earnings is thirty.

Speaker 5 (56:03):
The pop is thirty, and that's about right. And by
the way, the current Dow Jones industrial average is overpriced
by about two thirds. Okay, Now, if you have this
thirty to one ratio, if I add another million dollars.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
My pen went dry.

Speaker 5 (56:25):
If I had another million dollars and make that too,
what happens to this number become sixty?

Speaker 1 (56:32):
All right? Now? The lady had red down here? Who's
looking away from me? Man? What's your name? Karen?

Speaker 5 (56:39):
Karen owns an orange juice company, makes the best orange
juice in the world. And I owe all of what
I'm teaching you now to Catherine Austin Fitz.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
And she's just a one she has a.

Speaker 5 (56:47):
Wonderful website at Solari dot com and we'll put those
up before I leave. You make incredible orange juice, okay,
the best orange juice in the world.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
It's fairly priced Karen's Orange Juice.

Speaker 5 (56:58):
Right.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Okay, you have a million dollars net profit a year.

Speaker 5 (57:02):
Now, let's say this young lady down here in the
glasses with the light green sweater.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
What's your name? That's you? What's your name? Chris?

Speaker 5 (57:11):
Chris is the chief executive officer of PepsiCo, which owns
a small orange juice company called Tropicana.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
Okay, you see.

Speaker 5 (57:20):
Her company with a million dollars in net profit? How
much and your price to earnings is thirty to one.
How much are you willing to pay for that? How
much you're willing to pay for her company? Would you
pay twenty nine million dollars?

Speaker 16 (57:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (57:37):
Yeah, because the minute you bought her company for twenty
nine million dollars, your stock value goes up thirty million dollars.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
How to Wall Street executives get paid in stock.

Speaker 5 (57:48):
And you watch very closely the Bush administration's plan for
economic recovery. It's all handouts to the corporation which will
go directly to boost their pop, which will put hundreds
of millions of dollars in the pockets of executives. Has
anybody noticed the Bush administration has not offered one single
aid plan for any unemployed airline worker. All right, let's

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get down and dirty here. Oh, one more thing. Remember
that guy John Deutsch that I had fun with? Okay, Well,
right now he's on the board of directors of City Bank,
along with the former executive director of the CIA, who
is not on the board, but she's very highly replaced,

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executive Norah Slatkin. John Deutsch, of course, is as crooked
as the rest of them. Also on the board of
City Bank is a guy named Robert Rubin, former US
Secretary of the Treasury.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
Yes, thank you. He deserves all the hisses he can get. Well.

Speaker 5 (58:55):
In May of this year, City Bank announced a twelve
million dollar cash purchase of a Mexican bank called Baname's
second largest bank in Mexico, also a documented and I
mean documented drug money laundering bank.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
That was exposed in a Mexican newspaper.

Speaker 5 (59:13):
Roberto Hernandez, this is him, gets a seat on Citybank's
board of directors. And yet this is what's going on
on his property. He owns thousands of acres near Kancun
in Mexico. Did locals call it the cocaine Peninsula. There's
hundreds of photographs he lost to lawsuits in Mexico. And

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then my friend Al Giordano, who publishes a great website
called www. Narconews dot com, wrote a great story about
the Mexican paper stories, and Hernandez sued Giordano in New
York and he's going to lose that lawsuit. By the way,
Now Giordano's a brave journalist. But the point I'm making
with this is that the criminality had gotten so out

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of hand by May of this year that City Bank
would openly buy a known drug money laundering bank and
put the drug money launderer on its board of directors.
That's the need for drug cash in the US economy
right now. By the way, City banks record of involvement

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in drug money laundering is extremely well documented in the
Wall Street Journal and the New York Times. It laundered
some I think three or four hundred million dollars for
Raul Salinas de Gortardi, the brother of the former Mexican president.
Now let's go to some other things that are going
on in the economy, so that we set you up
to understand what's going on. Around September the eleventh, the

(01:00:37):
US economy is being looted. Anybody here remember the savings
and loan scandal. You know the gang that's in the
White House is the same gang that brought us the
savings and loan scandal that took five hundred billion dollars
out of your pockets. Well, here's some new developments in
the government. And by the way, I'm not a Democrat
or a Republican. Bill Clinton's a slave's bag too, Okay,

(01:01:03):
that's so called liberal. Put a million, almost a million,
non violent drug offenders in prison to boost the shares
of companies like Corrections Corporation of America and wacken Hut.
He destroyed many of the welfare laws. And you know
he's one is not better than the other. But notice this,
HUD loses HUD Housing and Urban Development fifty nine billion dollars.

(01:01:26):
When was the last time you lost fifty nine billion dollars?
This was from testimony in Congress by Susan Gaffney, Inspector
General of HUD. And you know what HUD said they
did when they couldn't figure out where the money went.
We made an adjustment in our checkbook. Where's that money going?

(01:01:50):
You'll you'll find out before we're threw Now, if you
thought that was bad, the.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Defense Department cannot account.

Speaker 5 (01:01:58):
For one point one trillion dollars that seems to have
vanished within the tangled system of financial accounting put in place.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
By private contractors.

Speaker 5 (01:02:06):
You know who The private contractors are, Lockheed Martin and
Dine Corp.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
Okay, hud, I dropped a microphone.

Speaker 5 (01:02:16):
I have more microphones on me than the FBI has
in my living room. This is from a very great reporter,
a very courageous woman who had served on the Capitol
Hill for many years and became an investigative report named
Kelly o'meira, who writes for the Washington Times Insight magazine.

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I know is owned by Moon, but Kelly does fabulous work,
and she's written a great piece on civil rights after
the September eleventh attack.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
The point is is.

Speaker 5 (01:02:45):
That four point four trillion dollars in adjustments to the
Pentagon books had to be cooked to compile the required
financial statements, and that one point one trillion of that
amount could not be supported by any reliable information.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
All right, now, there's one thing I got to.

Speaker 5 (01:03:01):
Do before we get to September the eleventh, and what's happening.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
Since it's easy to say that this is the war
about oil, and you're going to know more about it.

Speaker 13 (01:03:10):
Than you did when you came in here when you leave,
the entire world economy is on the brink of a
major collapse.

Speaker 5 (01:03:22):
Two days before the attacks on the World Trade Center,
I issued an emergency bullet into all of my subscribers.
And by the way, there's a table over here, and
those of you who would like to subscribe, we have
the information there for you. I'll put a website up.
We also have videotapes of a lecture on Wall Street's
War for Drug Money, which is like two hours on

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what I did with the economy that I gave at
the USC School of International Relations last December, and we
have those tapes over there. I think Chris Milligan's over
there somewhere, Chris, wherever you are. But I issued a
bullet in saying that we were on the brink of
an economic collapse that would make nineteen twenty nine look
like a picnic. And in the three weeks prior to

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the attacks, the Dow had dropped almost nine hundred points. Now,
what we have seen since then, and you must understand
this clearly, is that the Dow's so called resurrection to
close to ten thousand points is strictly the result of
a massive infusion of cash from the US Treasury, which

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is your cash, which is being given to the corporate executives.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
And not to the people who have been laid off.

Speaker 5 (01:04:30):
And every time you see the Dow go up, you'd
better believe that another five ten thousand people have lost
their jobs.

Speaker 17 (01:04:38):
We are also in a global financial crisis. It began
in nineteen ninety eight with the collapse of the bond
markets and hedge fund derivatives, the money laundering investigations, and
the mega mergers in the financial industry. The war build
up after September eleventh is now shifting resources from domestic
needs to the defense establishment. This fulfills a Bush Cheney

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campaign promised boost defense spending.

Speaker 5 (01:05:01):
But it is not sustainable for a number of reasons.
And then this brings us into the issue of oil briefly,
and we'll get into this more later, And basically is
that oil production in the world is peaking. The last untapped.
Major oil fields in the world are in two places actually,
First Central Asia and we'll get into that in depth.

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And second, guess where in Colombia? Okay, And this is
now a war, and this is now a moment in
human history when the age of oil is nearing its
end because world population and demand, world population and demand
will exceed production sometime within roughly the next ten years.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
And we're going to get into that for why.

Speaker 5 (01:05:48):
But now let's go back into the warnings about September
the eleventh.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
And I didn't do a lot of this, and we
have time.

Speaker 5 (01:05:59):
Osama bin Lad, of course a Saudi Arabian by birth.
His family is exceptionally wealthy. They own not only major
construction companies, but they are heavy investors in high technology
stocks like Nortel. They have a piece of PEPSI I
think in Coca Cola.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
They're into everything. They're very wealthy.

Speaker 5 (01:06:21):
In nineteen seventy six, Osama's older brother, Salem bin Laden,
hired a man in Texas by the name of Jim
Bath who has CIA connections to handle all the investments
in the United States for the bin Laden family. Jim
Bath also happens to be a personal almost lifelong friend
and former Air National Guard pilot with George W. Bush,

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and immediately after Jim Bath made the arrangements took over
the bin Laden families' finances. Jim Bath made a fifty
thousand dollars investment in George W.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
Bush's first company, or Busto Energy.

Speaker 5 (01:07:01):
The connections between the Bushes and the bin Ladens become
much more clear as you move forward, and we have
reported this and from the Wilderness again, I was using
stories and you'll see this when George Herbert Walker Bush
made trips to Saudi Arabia nineteen ninety eight and two
thousand to meet with the Saudi royal family and to
meet with the bin Laden family, which he finally acknowledged

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along with former British Prime Minister John Major on behalf
of a company called the Carlisle Group, which is the
eleventh largest defense contractor in the company in the country.
Carlisle Group is a privately owned corporation that means they
do not have to report their ownership or financial.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
Activities to the SEC.

Speaker 5 (01:07:43):
Yet they provide all kinds of the highest technology equipment
to the US Pentagon and Carlisle of course has made
several probably billion dollars and will as a result of
this war. In that context, Sama bin Laden went to
Afghanistan in nineteen seventy nine, nineteen eighty, maybe the early

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eighties to fight the Russians, and he was supported by
the CIA. And it's interesting to note that when the
Russians invaded Afghanistan, zero percent and this is from Professor
Alfred McCoy of the University of Wisconsin, who was also
one of my subscribers in a great book called The
Politics of Heroin, zero percent of the US consumption of

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heroin came from Pakistan Afghanistan before the Russian invasion. By
nineteen eighty five, eighty six, forty percent of the heroin
in the United States came from that region, all controlled
by the Central Intelligence Agency. And Osama bin Laden came
up under a guy named Gulbadin hek Matyar who ran

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six heroin labs, all protected by the CIA and controlled
by the agency. He has been a CIA asset for
a long period of time. We'll see more about that.
He is a CIA creation. Now we come to September eleventh,
and we're going to go into a timeline here. And
I have written several stories and I was on the

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radio here where Sheila Hamilton at KPAM just a few
days after the attacks, and I was saying, the US
government knew these attacks were going to take place and
did not stop them.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
And I keep building to that evidence.

Speaker 5 (01:09:19):
But I'm going to show you a couple of things now,
not by any means all of the evidence that I
have of fore knowledge, but just a couple telling points.
Israeli security issued urgent warning to CIA of large scale
terror attacks. And this is a long story saying that
that the Israeli Mosad knew that the attacks were going

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to take place, They knew that the World Trade Center
were the targets. This is from the British paper The Telegraph.
Two senior experts with Mossad were sent to Washington in
August to alert the CIA, and so on and so forth.
This is just one of probably two dozen examples that
I have that are absolutely specific. Now bear in mind

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that if what I'm showing you is known overtly through
the media, how much more does our thirty billion dollar
intelligence community. No, there's a recurring theme out there that
maybe the Israelis did this. You hear that in some
right wing circles Horsepucky. They didn't do it. They were
warning the US hand over fist and the US did

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not listen because it needed the attacks.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
You will be convinced of that.

Speaker 5 (01:10:27):
But here's one of the most telling pieces of evidence
that I found. We reviewed the list of former tenants
of the World Trade Center at the online Wall Street
Journal site. And there's the website. It is an alphabetical
list of tenants. Scroll to the very bottom and notice
the moving date for the office of ZIM American Israeli
shipping to Norfolk, Virginia.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
They were in the World Trade Center.

Speaker 5 (01:10:49):
They must have had Mosat's input because they vacated one
week before September the eleventh, and they broke their lease.
The Israelis didn't pully attack, but they were smart enough
to get their people out of the way. How come
our government didn't do the same thing for us. Now,

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now we're getting into the heart of September the eleventh.
I picked up this document just a few days after
the attacks September twenty third, and it's from the Herzliah
Institute for counter Terrorism. It is an Israeli counter terrorist
think tank. Of course, it's connected with the Massad.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
And what they detailed.

Speaker 5 (01:11:36):
This is from the October fifteenth issue of From the Wilderness.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
Between September sixth and.

Speaker 5 (01:11:41):
Seventh, the Chicago Board of Options Exchanged saw purchases of
forty seven hundred and forty four put options on United
Airlines and only three hundred and ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
Six call options.

Speaker 5 (01:11:52):
A put option is basically a bet that the stock
price is going to go down. It's a contract that's
entered into that's irrevocable. And let's say the gentlemen in
the suspenders, I do a put option deal with you
to sell shares at one hundred dollars in two weeks
four months. Four months is the standard, but you can
write the contract for anything you want. And he's committed

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now to buy the shares for one hundred dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
Well, if I know that the attacks are going to
take place, I.

Speaker 5 (01:12:20):
Don't have to deliver the shares until the contract matures.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
So if I know this, the stock is going to crash.

Speaker 5 (01:12:27):
He enters into a put agreement with me, agrees to
buy the shares at one hundred bucks. The next day,
the World Trade Center attacks happened, the stocks are selling
for twenty dollars. I go buy the shares for twenty
and he has to buy them for one hundred. That's
how a put option works. That's a short version. Okay,
So we saw forty seven hundred and forty four put

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options on United Airlines, but only three hundred and.

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
Ninety six call options.

Speaker 5 (01:12:52):
On September the tenth, four, five hundred and sixteen put
options same deal were placed on American Airlines bought on
the Chicago Exchange, compared to only seven hundred and forty
eight calls. There were no other similar trades on any
other airlines, and this level of put options was like
six hundred to twelve hundred percent above normal for United

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and American.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
Airlines now just these trades alone.

Speaker 5 (01:13:22):
There were also put options placed on Merrill Lynch, which
had twenty two floors. No Morgan Stanley had twenty two floors,
and Merrill Lynch had an offices near Both were heavily
impacted heavy put options. There heavy put options on reinsurance
companies Munich Reinsurance, the largest in the world, AXA Reinsurance
in France, which owned twenty five percent of American totally

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out of whack, absolutely spiking.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
There's another newsletter.

Speaker 5 (01:13:51):
That says very clearly, my guy named of Phil Airlonger,
and this is his newsletter that the insider trading may
have cost a billion dollars. These just these ones that
were identified produced only two and a half million dollars
and instant profits for somebody who knew the attacks were
going to take place.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
Nobody claimed the profits.

Speaker 5 (01:14:11):
The San Francisco Chronicle caught it shortly thereafter, and nobody
has claimed them since. And we don't know who made
the trades. But what did the Hesliah Institute for Counter
Terrorism tell us? It told us that the United Airlines
put options were placed through the firm AB Brown.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
Do you remember AB Brown.

Speaker 5 (01:14:37):
AB Brown was the firm headed until nineteen ninety eight
by ab Buzzy Krongard, who is now the executive director
of the Central Intelligence Agency. AB Brown was sold in
ninety seven to Banker's Trust in de Deutsche Bank.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
I think in ninety eight or ninety nine. It was
offshoot of Deutsche Bank.

Speaker 5 (01:15:04):
Now, one thing that I know that I have written
heavily about is CIA, the MOSAD and major intelligence services
track all stock trading in real time. On my website,
you'll see stories about promise software and it's very long
to go into but it's a very sophisticated software.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
I'm going to write the website for you.

Speaker 5 (01:15:26):
It's a very sophisticated software that's been made with artificial
intelligence and its capable of integrating wide numbers of databases
in different languages. You'll find this on my website at
www copvcia dot com. Now, I know that CIA and

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Mosad trackstock trades in real time. So if all these
put options were placed on American and United do you
think that should have triggered some alarm inside the Central
Intelligence Agency? But instead we find that the trades were
placed through a firm that was once owned managed by
the guy who was the number three at CIA. This
is just pieces of evidence. Now I'm building the case.

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Now again we're building up some history here. In January
of this year, the Taliban and al Qada destroyed the
entire opium crop in Afghanistan. It's been verified by the
United Nations, by the Drug Enforcement Administration, by ABC News,

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by BBC who put people on the ground. Afghanistan had
been the world's largest producer of opium, producing seventy percent
of the world's heroin through the year two thousand. In January,
they destroyed their crop part of it was a price support.
They had overproduced the year before part of it and
they sold from their stockpiles. But there are no opium

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crops in Afghanistan right now. They've all been planted, of course,
since the Bush administration and the CIA have lifted the
ban and everybody can go back to work in the
CIA can move the heroin again.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
Something that is not being reported in the US press
but is getting quite wide coverage in England and in Europe,
and that is that the result of our backing the
Northern Alliance in Afghanistan this year is to restore a
heroin flow which would otherwise have been halved or more

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in the world because the Taliban not only announced that
they were going to outlaw planting, but.

Speaker 14 (01:17:37):
Their decree worked.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
There was no Taliban opium planted last year, and that
meant a reduction of ninety percent in the amount of
opium coming out of Afghanistan, and the ten percent that
was left represented a radical increase in the areas under
Northern Alliance control. Now, if we had not gone into Afghanistan,

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this would have been the most effective reduction in the
flow of heroin in the world since the DEA was created.
Thirty years ago. But by going into Afghanistan backing the
Northern Alliance, we've now chased the Taliban out and in
all kinds of provinces where the farmers had started to

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plant t wheet, they're now plowing up their.

Speaker 14 (01:18:28):
Fields and putting in opium instead.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
And the global drug authorities at the UN expects that
we are going to go back to the record flow
of opium that we've seen in the last company of years.

Speaker 5 (01:18:44):
But we heard right after the attacks on September eleventh,
Tony Blair saying we will bound the poppy fields.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
Well, there are no poppy fields. They destroyed their crops.

Speaker 5 (01:18:58):
I was in Moscow and Moscow, Russia in March of
this year and I found out that it was Bekistan
and we're going to get to Zbekistan in a minute.

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
Was a wash in a sea of poppies.

Speaker 5 (01:19:10):
And what did I find also was the companies like
Southern Air, Transport, Evergreen and other CIA connected affiliates had
been flying into and out of Tashkent. The CIA had
been setting up operations that were proprietary companies all over
the place.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
It was Beekistan.

Speaker 5 (01:19:26):
So now we have the destruction of an opium crop,
which does what it takes cash out of the world's
banking system, in conjunction with a stock market bubble, in
conjunction with world oil prices or world oil production diminishing,
and a huge bubble on Wall Street.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
Now we come to.

Speaker 5 (01:19:50):
This is just from recently, of course, this is from
what's from the October fifth Afghan Rebels. That's the Northern Alliance,
our good friends, the who actually dominate the opium trade
from the north of Afghanistan. Now we've seen the recent
stories saying that the poppy farmers are absolutely rejoicing because

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they've gone back to planting.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
So now we come back to the oil and drugs.

Speaker 5 (01:20:17):
There's an old saying God equals gold, oil and drugs.
Testimony from February twelfth, nineteen ninety eight, in Washington, d C.
Before the House International Relations Committee by John Maresca, vice
president of international relations for Unikal, which had been planning

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to build a pipeline for some time from the Central
Asian oil fields of Tajikistan, Kurajikistan, Zbekistan all the stands
across Afghanistan down to the Pakistani coast. It's a distance
of about fifteen hundred miles to a terminal where US
tankers would take the oil and gas and ship it
to China and Japan, the largest emerging.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
Markets in the world.

Speaker 5 (01:21:01):
China's in the middle of a huge oil crisis and
the US Wall Street is pouring money into China hand
over fists and he says in this construction cannot begin
construction until internationally recognized Afghanistani government is in place. A

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recent study for the World Bank states that the proposed
pipeline for Central Asia across Afghanistan and Pakistan to the
Arabian Sea would provide more favorable netbacks. That's money in
your pocket, folks, to oil producers. That's his testimony. Now,
Unical put the pipeline on hold in nineteen ninety nine.

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They also hired a guy named Henry Kissinger to consult
for them, which explains why Afghanistan has never been listed
as a sponsoring terrorist nation. Isn't that strange the head
of all the terrorists in the world and the biggest
country has been listed.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
Okay, US companies.

Speaker 5 (01:22:02):
To invest in Pakistan oil and gas sectors. This is
from a Pakistani newspaper, the Frontier Post.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
The date is what is the date October tenth and
what this says. Now.

Speaker 5 (01:22:15):
October the tenth is after we've gone to war, after
the attacks on World Trade Center, after we know. Is
anybody surprised at how quickly we kind of won in Afghanistan? Okay, well,
the war has been planned for four years and I'm
saving the best for last. But the US Ambassador to
Pakistan met with the Pakistani oil minister and briefed the ambassador,

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who briefed the ambassador on the proposed Turkmenistan Afghanistan Gas
Pakistan Gas pipeline. And so that this project opens up
new avenues of multi dimensional regional cooperation, particularly in view
of the recent geopolitical developments in the region. Gee, the
pipeline that was blocked is now back on full tilt

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just days after we started the bombing.

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
Suspicious.

Speaker 5 (01:23:07):
Okay, maybe I haven't convinced you of everything, but we're
just getting warmed up now. This is how Afghanistan went
on listed as a terrorists sponsor.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
This is the story that I found and it says
right here.

Speaker 5 (01:23:20):
Unical hired former State Department insiders, former Secretary of State
Henry Kissinger, former Special US Ambassador John the guy was
also I didn't see that the Unical guy was also
a special ambassador and Robert Oakley, a former US ambassador
to Pakistan.

Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
You're going to love where Henry Kissinger turns up on us.

Speaker 5 (01:23:40):
By the way, all right, this is one other thing
about Kissinger. Chinese oil firm picks Kissinger as advisor. This
is from November four.

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:24:00):
The Chinese National Offshore Oil Company has hired Henry Kissinger
to head its foreign advisory board.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
Now Kissinger's got.

Speaker 5 (01:24:08):
The Pakistan end and he's got the China end of
this oil pipeline.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
Who does Henry Kissinger front for? Very good? David Rockefeller?
Who's that?

Speaker 5 (01:24:24):
C Big?

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
Brazinski Sibignia of Brazinski.

Speaker 5 (01:24:31):
Was Counselor for Strategic and International Studies, Professor of American
Foreign Policy of JOHNS. Hopkins, National security advisor to President
Jimmy Carter, trustee and founder of the Trilateral Commission, Member
of the Council on Foreign Relations, International advisor of several.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
Major court corporations associated.

Speaker 5 (01:24:56):
Henry Kissinger also worked for Ronald Reagan in intelligence capacity.
It is co chairman of the Bush National Security Advisory
Task Force in nineteen eighty eight. But a guy C big, Now,
if you want to get really really really really angry.

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Go buy this book. It's called The Grand Chessboard American
Primacy and its Geostrategic Objectives, written by Xavigniev Brazinski in
nineteen ninety seven.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
I'm going to read you some quotes from that book.

Speaker 12 (01:25:45):
H XII.

Speaker 5 (01:25:46):
It's the very first words in the book. The last
decades of the twentieth century has witnessed a tectonic shift
in world affairs. For the first time ever, a non
Eurasian power has emerged not only as a key arbiter
of Eurasian power relations, but also as the world's paramount power.
The defeat and collapse of the Soviet Union was the
final step in the rapid ascendants of a Western Hemisphere power,

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the United States as the soul and indeed the first
truly global superpower age XII. It's in the preface, but
in the meantime he says, it is imperative that no
Eurasian challenger. Eurasia is everything in between roughly east of
Germany all the way to the Pacific Ocean, south through
the Indian subcontinent, and includes the Middle East. It's imperative

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that no Eurasian challenger. By that, he means Russia or
China emerges capable of dominating Eurasia and.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
Thus of also challenging America.

Speaker 5 (01:26:41):
The formulation of a comprehensive and integrated Eurasian geostrategy is
therefore the purpose of this book, Geostrategy Eurasia. The attitude
of the American public toward the external projection of American
power has been much more ambivalent. The public supported America's
and gay in World War Two, largely because of the

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shock effect of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.

Speaker 1 (01:27:08):
Gets worse for America.

Speaker 5 (01:27:11):
The chief geopolitical prize is Eurasia. Now a non Eurasian power.
That's US is pre eminent in Eurasia and America's global
primacy isn't that arrogant. America's global primacy is directly dependent.

Speaker 1 (01:27:26):
On how long and how effectively its.

Speaker 5 (01:27:28):
Preponderance on the Eurasian continent is sustained.

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
What he's saying.

Speaker 5 (01:27:35):
Is is that if the US wants to stay top dog,
we have to control Eurasia. America's withdrawal from the world.
Withdrawal from the world or because of the sudden emergence
of a successful rival, would produce massive international stability it
would prompt global anarchy.

Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
You know what he's saying there, Yeah, global anarchy. It'd
probably be a damn good thing.

Speaker 5 (01:27:58):
Right now. What he's saying there is, if we don't
control the world by whatever means necessary, the world's going
to be miserable.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
He didn't ask my opinion, did he ask yours? Okay?

Speaker 5 (01:28:17):
In that context, how America manages Eurasia, do we manage
people around the world?

Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
Is that our job is critical.

Speaker 5 (01:28:26):
Eurasia is the globe's largest continent and is geopolitically axial.
A power that dominates Eurasia would control two of the
world's three most advanced and economically productive regions. A mere
glance at the map also suggests that control over Eurasia
would almost automatically entail Africa's subordination, rendering the Western Hemisphere

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and Oceania. That's Australia for all of you non academics,
geopolitically peripheral to the world's central continent. About seventy five
percent of the world's people live in Eurasia, and most
of the world's face wealth is there as well, both
in its enterprises that underneath its soil. Eurasia accounts for
sixty percent of the world's GNP and three fourths of

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the world's three fourths of the world's known energy resources.
Two basic steps are thus required. First to identify the
geostrategically dynamic Eurasian states that have the power to cause
a potentially important shift in the international distribution of power,

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and to decipher the central external goals of their respective
political elites and the likely consequences that they're seeking to
attain them. Second, to formulate specific US policies to offset,
co opt, and or control the above. The man is

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talking about co opt and controlling, managing, subverting nations and
peoples and economies, to put them in a terminology that
hearkens back to the more brutal age of ancient empires.
The three grand imperatives of imperial to listen to this
of imperial geostrategy, are to prevent collusion and maintain security

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dependents among the vassals, to keep tributaries pliant and protected,
and to keep the barbarians from coming together. That's on
page forty I'm telling you got to buy a book.

Speaker 1 (01:30:31):
Now we get really serious.

Speaker 5 (01:30:33):
On page ninety five it was Bekistan with its much
more ethnically homogeneous population of approximately twenty five million, and
its leaders emphasizing the country's historic glories, has become increasingly
assertive in affirming the region's new post colonial status. He
saw the first step in this as diminishing the ability

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of Russia to reassert the dream of the Soviet Union.
All the stands utral Asia were once part of the
Soviet Union. The borders were drawn arbitrarily by Lenin and Stalin,
and he saw one of the most important steps was
to prevent Russia from asserting any control in the region,

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which we did. You know how we did it over
the last decade thanks to Goldman Sos, the Harvard of Dowlmo,
the US Treasury, and the Federal Reserve, the World Bank.
We looted three hundred billion dollars out of the Russian economy.

Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
Three hundred billion dollars I was there. The Russian population
was what.

Speaker 5 (01:31:31):
One hundred and sixty sixty four million at the fall.

Speaker 1 (01:31:35):
Of the Soviet Union.

Speaker 5 (01:31:36):
The population of Russia is today one hundred and forty
five million. In another ten years it will be one
hundred and thirty million. The average life expectancy of a
mail in Russia has.

Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
Dropped to forty eight years.

Speaker 5 (01:31:51):
Thanks to the economic devastation the Ruin we visited on
their economy. It was a deliberate plan to weaken Russia
so that it couldn't challenge our into Eurasia a decade later.

Speaker 1 (01:32:03):
It helps if you see this on the map.

Speaker 18 (01:32:06):
Okay, Russia, Kazakhstan, Rajikistan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan,
India and China.

Speaker 5 (01:32:21):
Now the proposed oil route is from here to here,
fifteen hundred miles. China can't build it because it's five
thousand miles and they don't have the technology to build it.
We do thanks to a company named Halliburton. Haliburton which
was chaired with the CEO was Dick Cheney. Right, Okay,

(01:32:46):
they're probably going to build the pipeline. Okay, So now
that you see this relationship, what he's saying is you
build a block starting with Islamic fundamentalism, which supported and
created to keep Russia from moving south to reassert control.
But then you build up these countries so that they're

(01:33:08):
so powerful and with a week in Russia, Russia can't make.

Speaker 1 (01:33:11):
A move to control, and all the oil reserves are
right in here.

Speaker 5 (01:33:17):
Okay and he we have effectively made China dependent upon
our technology because they need the oil desperately. Now, it
was Bekistan, nationally, the most vital and the most populous
of the Central Asian states, represents the major obstacle to
any renewed Russian control over the region. Its dependence is

(01:33:39):
critical to the survival of other Central Asian states and
is the least vulnerable to Russian pressures. Where was the
first place that President Bush announced we were sending troops
after the attacks on September eleventh.

Speaker 1 (01:33:52):
We were already there.

Speaker 5 (01:33:53):
We've been training Uzbeki troops for more than five years,
referring to an area he calls the Eurasian Balkans and
eighteen ninety seven map in which he circled the exact location.

Speaker 1 (01:34:05):
Now, remember this is a book written four years.

Speaker 5 (01:34:07):
Ago, and I'm going to show you a map where
Zibigniev Brazenski said the next world.

Speaker 1 (01:34:16):
Conflict was going to take place.

Speaker 5 (01:34:20):
Afghanistan, Iran, turkmenistanz Bekistan, Tajikistan, Kajikistan, Kazakhstan. This is where
he said four years ago, the United States in order
to sustain it's precarious. That's my words, economy would have
to control that to maintain its role as the global
superpower and to become the world's only superpower, the rule,

(01:34:42):
in effect, the ruling nation of the world. That's his
map from four years ago, referring to an area he
calls the Eurasian Balkans and a ninety seven map in
which he circled the exact location the current conflict, describing
it as the central region of pending conflict for world dominance.

(01:35:04):
Brzhenski rights moreover that they the Central Asian republics are
of importance from the standpoint of security and historical ambitions
to at least three of their most immediate and more
powerful neighbors, namely Russia, Turkey, and Iran, with China also
signaling and increasing geopolitical interest in the region, and.

Speaker 1 (01:35:26):
He really lets his hair down.

Speaker 5 (01:35:30):
More important as a potential economic prize and enormous concentration
of natural gas and oil reserves is located in the region,
in addition to important minerals including gold.

Speaker 1 (01:35:44):
Didn't know about the gold, did you?

Speaker 5 (01:35:45):
The world's energy consumption is bound to vastly increase over
the next two or three decades. Estimates by the US
Department of energy anticipate that world demand will rise by
more than fifty percent between nineteen ninety three twenty fifteen,
with the most significant increase in consumption occurring in.

Speaker 1 (01:36:03):
The Far East China.

Speaker 5 (01:36:06):
The momentum of Asia's economic development is already generating massive
pressures for the exploration and exploitation of new sources of energy,
and the Central Asian region and the Caspian Sea Basin
are known to contain reserves of natural gas and oil
that dwarf those of Kuwait, the Gulf of Mexico, and

(01:36:26):
the North Sea. Once pipelines to the area have been developed,
Turkmenistan's truly vast natural gas reserves augur a prosperous future.
He's talking about the pipelines without sustained and directed American involvement.

Speaker 1 (01:36:42):
Before long, the forces of global disorder.

Speaker 5 (01:36:47):
Global disorder, you mean democracy, global disorder could come to
dominate the world scene, and the possibility of such a
fragmentation is inherent in the geop political tensions not only
of today's Eurasia, but of the.

Speaker 1 (01:37:02):
World more generally.

Speaker 5 (01:37:04):
The most immediate task is to make certain that no
state or combination of states gained the capacity to expel
the United states from Eurasia, or even to signific or
even to diminish significantly.

Speaker 1 (01:37:15):
Its decisive arbitration role.

Speaker 5 (01:37:17):
In the long run, global politics are bound to become
increasingly uncongenial to the concentration of hegemonic power in the
hands of a single state. Hence, America is not only
the first as well as the only truly global superpower,
but is also likely to be the very last.

Speaker 1 (01:37:37):
And what does he say that's going to happen?

Speaker 5 (01:37:41):
He says that the United States will fold into a
one world government in which all nations will cease to exist.

Speaker 1 (01:37:48):
Run by corporations. I'm paraphrasing it.

Speaker 5 (01:37:53):
Now hold your breath, very last pages in the book. Moreover,
as America becomes an increasingly multicultural society, it may find
it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues,
except in the circumstance of a truly massive and widely

(01:38:14):
perceived direct external threat.

Speaker 1 (01:38:22):
Read it again, she said, maybe I should read this
with a German accent. Appayment.

Speaker 19 (01:38:31):
Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multicultural society, it may
find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign
policy issues, except in the circumstance of a truly massive
and widely perceived direct external threat.

Speaker 5 (01:38:59):
Listen, I want you to know that the Third Reich
did not lose the Second World War.

Speaker 1 (01:39:06):
It just changed venues. Now we're going.

Speaker 5 (01:39:12):
To close with the summation, and you all are still
with me. Nobody's falling over in their chairs, right?

Speaker 1 (01:39:18):
Can I have a minute to take a hit off
my pepsi here? All?

Speaker 17 (01:39:23):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:39:23):
Now, I'm going to run you through a timeline, which
is what a detective would do for a prosecutor. I'm
going to run you through a series of events with
some information that's absolutely going to curl your.

Speaker 1 (01:39:36):
Socks or something. And let's start with some of this
we've covered.

Speaker 5 (01:39:46):
Nineteen ninety eight and two thousand, Former President George Bush
travels to Saudi Arabia on behalf of the Carlisle Group,
the eleventh largest defense contractor. While there, he meets privately
with the Saudi royal family and the bin Laden family.

Speaker 1 (01:39:57):
Source Wall Street Journalist.

Speaker 5 (01:39:58):
September twenty seventh, Also from the Wilderness. That's my newsletter,
the best enemies money can buy. And I hope some
of you folks are going to subscribe to Night Chris.
Wherever you are, raise your hand, January two thousand and one,
the Bush inspiration orders the FBI and intelligence agencies to
back off investigations involving the bin Laden family, including two

(01:40:20):
of Osama bin Laden's relatives, Abdullah.

Speaker 1 (01:40:23):
And Omar bin Laden.

Speaker 5 (01:40:25):
There goes the black sheep theory who were living Guess
where in Falls Church, Virginia, right next to CIA headquarters.
This followed previous orders dating back to nineteen ninety six.
That's under Bill Clinton, frustrating efforts to investigate the bin
Laden family. Source BBC Newsnight correspondent Greg Plastin on the

(01:40:48):
TV broadcast, he actually held up an FBI national security
report showing that the bureau had been ordered to leave
the bin Ladens alone. By the way, this is just
for your edification. This is a copy of the BBC
report showing that the Bush administration ordered the FBI to
stop investigating the bin Laden family in January, right after

(01:41:11):
taking office. February thirteenth, UPI Terrorism correspondent Richard Sale, while
covering a trial of Ben Ladden's Alcada followers, reports that
the National Security Agency has broken Bin Ladden's encrypted communications.

(01:41:31):
They introduced the evidence into court the NSA had broken
his secure communications Even if this indicates had bin Laden
changed systems in February, it does not mesh with the
fact that the government insists that the planning for the
September eleventh attacks took years. May two thousand and one,
Secretary of State Colin Powell gives forty three million dollars

(01:41:54):
in aid to the Taliban. Why good question purportably to
assist hungry farmers who were starving since the destruction of
their opium crop, and in January orders in January on
the orders of the Taliban. Source the Los Angeles Times,
May twenty two, they are two thousands.

Speaker 14 (01:42:14):
The UN says that there were three thousand.

Speaker 2 (01:42:18):
Two hundred and seventy six tons of opium produced in Afghanistan.

Speaker 14 (01:42:25):
In two thousand and one.

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
They estimate that the total crop was one hundred and
eighty five tons.

Speaker 14 (01:42:31):
That's a reduction of ninety four percent.

Speaker 2 (01:42:34):
Now in the global in the Northern Alliance areas there
was an increase.

Speaker 20 (01:42:44):
There were two provinces that one place grew by I
think one hundred and eighty five percent on this doubled
in another it increased tenfold. But even so the Northern
Alliance provinces with their huge increase they were ninety percent
of this year's crop, but of one hundred and eighty

(01:43:08):
five tons is not enough to offset.

Speaker 14 (01:43:11):
There was a net loss of thirty one hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:43:15):
Tons of opium, and that would have been such a
fantastic improvement in the world OPIM scene. But now that
they are replanting fields all over Afghanistan with OPIM, that
possible victory we could have seen over.

Speaker 14 (01:43:35):
Drugs is being white as a result.

Speaker 5 (01:43:38):
Of the US intervention May two thousand and one, Deputy
Secretary of State one of my favorite guys in the
whole world, Richard Armitage, a former Navy seal who used
to go on kill missions in Laos and Cambodia, who
has been dealing drugs for most of his adult life,
who was involved in Iran contra and death squads, and
who has been around this world as a covert operative,

(01:44:00):
goes to India. At the same time while the DCI,
the CIA director George Tenant travels to Pakistan.

Speaker 1 (01:44:10):
Armitage is the cover. It's a publicized tour.

Speaker 5 (01:44:12):
Tenant makes a quiet stop to Pakistan, where he spends
a long time with General Pervez Musharraf, our great ally
in Pakistan. Pakistan is the largest supporter of terrorism in
the world. By the way, Armitage has deep intelligence connections,
but Tenant spends hours and it would be assumed reasonable
to assume.

Speaker 1 (01:44:31):
Wouldn't you agree that the head of.

Speaker 5 (01:44:33):
The Central Intelligence Agency, if he's meeting with the President
of Pakistan, would also meet with the head of Pakistani intelligence.

Speaker 1 (01:44:39):
Wouldn't that makes sense to you?

Speaker 5 (01:44:40):
Remember the head of Pakistani intelligence has to be approved
by the CIA by treaty. The guy's name is Lieutenant
General mah Mahmoud Ahmad. Source the Indian Sapra News Agency,
May twenty second.

Speaker 1 (01:44:55):
I have copies of all of these. My thousand dollars
is safe. June thousand and one.

Speaker 5 (01:45:01):
German intelligence the BND the bundest Nachristan dinst WARN's the
CIA at Israel that Middle Eastern terrorists are planning to
hijack commercial aircraft to use his weapons to attack important
symbols of American and Israeli culture. Source the frankfourger algemin Zaetong.
That's a great newspaper in Germany September fourteenth, July two

(01:45:22):
thousand and one. Three American officials Tom Simmons, former US
Ambassador in Pakistan, Carl Enderferth, former Assistant Secretary of State.
Lee Caldron, former State Department expert on South Asia, meet
with Pakistani and Russian intelligence officers in Berlin and tell
them that the US is planning military strikes against Afghanistan

(01:45:47):
in October.

Speaker 1 (01:45:52):
A French book.

Speaker 5 (01:45:55):
La Verite and Anteldiite discloses the Taliban representatives often in
on the meetings. US is going to the Taliban get
this and says We're going to bomb you to smithereens
in October.

Speaker 1 (01:46:09):
Could we call that provocation? Historically there is a model.

Speaker 5 (01:46:13):
Franklin Roosevelt shut off the Japanese from oil supplies in
the late thirties and early forties to provoke them into
attacking Pearl Harbor. Sources The Guardian September twenty second, the
BBC September eighteenth, and the Interpress News Service in Pakistan
November sixteenth, Summer two thousand and one. According to a

(01:46:33):
September twenty sixth story in Britain's The Guardian, correspondent David
Lee reported that US Department of Defense official Jeffrey Star
visited Taijikistan in January. The Guardian's Felicity Lawrence established the
US Rangers were training special troops in Kajikistan at that time,
and there were unconferred reports that Taijik and Uzbek special

(01:46:54):
troops were training in Alaska and Montana. Summer two thousand
and one, Pakistani ISI Chief General Mahmud Remember the guy
I talked about, the guy that has to be approved
by the CIA director by treaty.

Speaker 1 (01:47:09):
You're going to love this.

Speaker 5 (01:47:11):
Pakistani ISSI Chief General Mahmoud orders an aid to wire
transfer one hundred thousand dollars to Mohammad Atta, the lead
hijacker who was, according to the FBI, the lead terrorist
in the suicide hijackings. Mahmud recently resigned after the transfer

(01:47:35):
was disclosed in India and confirmed by the FBI source
The Times of India October eleventh. Our allies wiring one
hundred thousand dollars to the lead hijacker before the attacks
summer two thousand and one, and Iranian man phones the
US law enforcement to warn of an imminent attack on
the World Trade Center in the week of September, the

(01:47:58):
Ninth World Trades said enter September, the Ninth German Police
confirmed the calls, but state the US Secret Service would.

Speaker 1 (01:48:04):
Not reveal any information.

Speaker 5 (01:48:06):
I got this from the German news agency online IE.
September fourteenth, two thousand and one. August two thousand and one,
the FBI arrests and Islamic militant linked to bin Laden
in Boston. French intelligence sources confirmed the man is a
key member of bin.

Speaker 1 (01:48:22):
Laden's network, and the FBI learns that.

Speaker 5 (01:48:23):
He has been taking flying lessons in Boston at the
time of his arrest in Boston or two of the
Placer hijack, the man is in possession of technical information
on Boeing aircraft and flight manuals writers. September thirteenth, Summer
two thousand and one, Russian intelligence notifies the CIACIA the

(01:48:44):
twenty five terrorist pilots have been specifically training for suicide missions.
This is reported in the Russian press and I have
one of my sources. I have several sources who are
former CIA officers translated the article for ME. July fourth
through fourteenth, Osama bin Laden receives treatments for kidney disease
at the American Hospital in Dubai and meets with the

(01:49:06):
CIA official who returns the CIA headquarters on July fifteenth.
This is the guy who blew up the coal and
the embassies that Bill Clinton signed an order it's okay
to execute. He gets treatment at an American hospital in
Dubai and flies out on a private plane.

Speaker 1 (01:49:25):
Oliver North in the eighties. Oliver North is one of
my least favorite people.

Speaker 5 (01:49:29):
But he said navy planes to track down terrorists on
the Achille Lauro.

Speaker 1 (01:49:34):
The moment Bin Laden entered international airspace, he would have
been fair game.

Speaker 5 (01:49:38):
The source for this story is La Figaro, French newspaper,
October thirty First, Now, I gotta throwing a caveat here.

Speaker 1 (01:49:45):
La Figaro is owned by the Carlisle Group.

Speaker 5 (01:49:50):
These guys can't control everybody, okay, and they can't control reporters.
La Figaro was emphatic that they had confirmed the deta
tales of the story. The CIA immediately came out with
an adam of denial. But the CIA never lies, and
you know, so did some people at the hospital.

Speaker 1 (01:50:09):
But you don't have to take the story as all
or everything.

Speaker 5 (01:50:11):
But the Figaro has not retracted the story. August two
thousand and one, Russian President Vladimir Putin orders Russian intelligence
to warn the US government in the strongest possible terms
of imminent attacks on airports and government buildings. I watched
it on MSNBC on September the fifteenth August September two

(01:50:32):
thousand and one. The Dow Jones industrial average drops nearly
nine hundred points in the three weeks prior to the attack.
A major stock market crash is imminent September three through ten.
MSNBC reports on September sixteenth at a caller to the
Cayman Islands to a Cayman Islands radio talk show gave

(01:50:53):
several warnings of an imminent attack on the US by
Ben Laden in the week prior to nine to eleven.
These are just some of the advanced warning bits that
we have.

Speaker 1 (01:51:05):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:51:10):
September one through ten, some twenty five thousand British troops,
the largest British naval armadas since the Falkland Island War.

Speaker 1 (01:51:19):
It's not essential harvest.

Speaker 5 (01:51:20):
It's called swift Sword, an operation in the planning for
four years, are set to deploy to Oman in the
week before the September eleventh attacks. It takes years to
plan this kind of a deployment, and yet the British
government had been planning it for four years. After the

(01:51:42):
attack on the eleventh there was a slight hiccup. They waited,
but the deployment went ahead as scheduled, supposedly to support
the US. But you have to understand, I don't know
how many veterans we have in this room, but you
have to understand that it takes months and months and
months to deployed these kinds of personnel. Yet they're already

(01:52:02):
set to go to Oman. At the same time, two
US aircraft carrier battle groups happened to be rendezvousing off
the Pakistani coast. This is not a normal deployment. The
Pakistani coast is not the Persian Gulf, it's the Arabian Sea.
Yet we have two aircraft carrier battle groups off the

(01:52:23):
Pakistani coast. And at the same time, some seventeen thousand
US troops joined more than twenty three thousand NATO troops
for Operation Bright Star in Egypt, fully deployed, combat ready,
locked and loaded, all before September the eleventh.

Speaker 1 (01:52:41):
Is the suspicious I think.

Speaker 5 (01:52:43):
So September sixth through seventh, we have the four thy
seven hundred and forty four put options on United Airlines
CIA monitoring stock trading in real time. September tenth, forty
five hundred put options are purchased on American.

Speaker 1 (01:53:00):
September sixth through the eleventh.

Speaker 5 (01:53:02):
No other airlines show any similar trading patterns to those
experienced by Ual and American. The put option purchases on
both airlines were six hundred percent above normal September six
through tenth put options on Merrill, Lynch, Morgan Stanley, Axel Reinsurance.

Speaker 1 (01:53:18):
And Munich reed.

Speaker 5 (01:53:20):
It has been documented, and as I talked about this
through the promised software that intelligence agencies routinely track.

Speaker 1 (01:53:26):
The stock trading.

Speaker 5 (01:53:26):
And I'll tell you what I think an opinion here
happened is that someone at CIA told the head of
AB Brown, and the head of AB Brown decided to
make himself a little money on the side, and he
got caught because the stock market was shut down.

Speaker 1 (01:53:43):
Because well, we'll come to that in a second.

Speaker 5 (01:53:46):
General Mahmouda the Isi, the guy that wired one hundred
thousand dollars to Muhammad Ata, the guy that had to
be approved by the CIA, happened to be in Washington
on September the eleventh. He had arrived the week before.
I think he was discussing war plans. That's from MSNBC

(01:54:08):
September the eleventh, for thirty five minutes from eight fifteen
am until nine oh five am, with it widely known
to the FAA and the military that four planes had
been simultaneously hijacked and taken off course, no one notifies
the President of the United States. It is not until
nine to thirty that any Air Force planes are scrambled
to intercept, but by then it is too late. This

(01:54:32):
means that the National Command Authority waited for seventy five
minutes before scrambling aircraft, even though it was known that
four simultaneous hijackings had occurred.

Speaker 1 (01:54:41):
An event that has never happened in history.

Speaker 5 (01:54:45):
Sources CNNABCMSNBC, the Los Angeles Times, in the New York Times,
and if you go to my website you will see
the beginning of a fabulous series of articles out of Canada.
They've established clearly, using documents that have now been taken
down off of US Air Force websites, that it is
a matter of routine policy on the FAA and the

(01:55:06):
US Air Force to scramble a jet the instant any
airliner is hijacked without waiting for an order from the president.

Speaker 14 (01:55:15):
Scrambled.

Speaker 1 (01:55:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:55:16):
I'm sorry you.

Speaker 5 (01:55:18):
Put them up in the air and make them go
intercept the jet, not shoot it down. But you put
a fighter aircraft in the airspace with the hijacked airliner.

Speaker 1 (01:55:27):
It's FAA routine procedure.

Speaker 5 (01:55:29):
It doesn't require an order from the President of the
United States. Remember Payne Stewart, Remember his airplane. Remember it
went off course. It was off course for no more
than ten minutes, and fighter jets had been scrambled to
fly along beside it. Now, if we have four simultaneous hijackings,
why were no planes scrambled to intercept those planes for

(01:55:49):
seventy five minutes. The Andrews Air Force Base website has
taken down information saying that it maintained a ready response
scrambled force to protect the skies over Washington, DC. Presidential
order is not necessary to intercept an aircraft.

Speaker 1 (01:56:04):
It is necessary to shoot down an aircraft.

Speaker 5 (01:56:08):
And yet the government has committed a lot of lies.
Dick Cheney has lied about US Air Force response. I
used to work outside Andrews Air Force Base. I saw
I F sixteens, F eighteen's F fifteenth taken off all
the time.

Speaker 14 (01:56:21):
So he took down that site.

Speaker 1 (01:56:23):
They have changed the site it has been archived and saved.

Speaker 5 (01:56:27):
If you go to my website, go to the articles,
you can get links to the way it used to read.

Speaker 1 (01:56:31):
Okay, all right.

Speaker 5 (01:56:33):
September thirteenth, China has admitted to the World Trade Organization
after fifteen years of unsuccessful attempts.

Speaker 1 (01:56:41):
The vote was taken.

Speaker 5 (01:56:42):
It was just ratified about a week ago. But that
was the vote nobody noticed. September fifteenth, The New York
Times reports that Mayo Shattuck, the third the head of
ab Brown in the United States, resigned, effective immediately, without explanation.

Speaker 1 (01:57:01):
The insider trading.

Speaker 5 (01:57:02):
September fifteenth was the first day that the stock market.

Speaker 1 (01:57:05):
Opened after the attacks.

Speaker 5 (01:57:08):
September twenty ninth, the San Francisco Chronicle reports the two
and a half million and put options on American Airlines
and ual are unclaimed. This is the result of the
suspension and trading. Nobody showed up the claimant. October tenth,
the Pakistani newspaper Frontier Post reports that Ambassador Wendy Chamberlain
has called on the Pakistani oil Minister the pipeline is
now a go.

Speaker 1 (01:57:30):
Mid October two.

Speaker 5 (01:57:31):
Thousand and one, the Dow Jones is back up near
ten thousand as a result of the massive looting excuse
me outpouring of cash. I'm gonna love this one. One
of my dearest causes in the whole world. I have
a couple of monthly columns in magazines, one of which

(01:57:51):
is High Times Believe.

Speaker 1 (01:57:53):
It or Not.

Speaker 5 (01:57:54):
And that's a strange thing for an ex nark who
who hasn't had a who hasn't had a beer or
a joint. I've had no mind altering chemicals in eighteen
years I made. It'll be nineteen and January.

Speaker 1 (01:58:12):
I'm a recovering.

Speaker 5 (01:58:12):
Alcoholic and I work a lot with men in recovery.
I've written more than thirty articles on the subject of
drug addiction and recovery for the US Journal of Drug
and Alcohol Dependence. And I can tell you that drug
addiction is a medical, social, and spiritual problem. It is
not a criminal problem. And one of the most frightening

(01:58:45):
things that I saw in the wake and we're going
to wind this up here, I'm going to hit you.

Speaker 1 (01:58:49):
With everything that I got.

Speaker 5 (01:58:51):
One of the most frightening things that I saw in
the wake of the attacks was a story that showed
right here.

Speaker 1 (01:58:57):
This is from the New York Post that the two companies.
Most of you know that.

Speaker 5 (01:59:03):
Some thirty to forty percent of the prison inmates in
this company are housed by private corporations who trade their
stock on Wall Street based upon the number of human
beings that they're housing in prison. That's what our economy
has evolved into. We are a search and destroy economy.
A snake eating its own tail is not nutritious, yet
that's what we're doing. And I saw that the stocks

(01:59:25):
of these two companies, Corrections Corporation of America and Wackenhut
went up three hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (01:59:32):
In the what two weeks after the attacks.

Speaker 5 (01:59:36):
And not only that, you read this story and there
was an urgent request outside of the budget for forty
thousand new prison beds.

Speaker 1 (01:59:46):
That's before the next year's budget.

Speaker 5 (01:59:48):
Now, does anybody here think there are forty thousand Islamic
terrorists in this country?

Speaker 1 (01:59:55):
Who are those beds for.

Speaker 5 (01:59:58):
I'll tell you when I get there. But the Bureau
of Prisons budget request next year is supposed to ask
for something. And this is not confirmed, but I've heard
on the order of four hundred thousand new prison beds.

Speaker 1 (02:00:14):
Maybe more.

Speaker 19 (02:00:16):
You had that as you sign.

Speaker 5 (02:00:18):
What I just showed you was in one of the
issues of the newsletter on the site. Yes now, in
January of this year, when the Bush administration took office,
these are the folks that brought us savings and loan
with Lockheed Martin dinekore looting two trillion dollars out of
the Department of Defense, fifty nine billion dollars out of HUD.

(02:00:41):
That's to sustain this bubble, to maintain the grip on
power of this CFR trilateral group that has taken us
into a war for Central.

Speaker 1 (02:00:50):
Asian oil before the age of oil ends.

Speaker 5 (02:00:53):
And in January I said they're going to go after
Social Security. You mark my words. Savings and Loan was
just a warm up. And here I find this story
or this letter written to the Honorable Daniel Patrick moynihan,
who is the head of the President's Commission to Strengthen

(02:01:17):
New Speak or will Strengthen Social Security. And the letter
is from two members of Congress. It's from Henry Waxman,
I don't have the second page and one of the
members of Congress. And you know what, you know what
they're saying.

Speaker 1 (02:01:29):
You've locked us out of your meetings.

Speaker 5 (02:01:32):
You're having closed door, classified meetings on social Security. We're
the members of the Ways and Means Committee that are
charged with Social security oversight, and you.

Speaker 1 (02:01:41):
Have locked us out of the meetings. Does that scare you?

Speaker 14 (02:01:47):
It scares me.

Speaker 5 (02:01:50):
They've just been writing letters so far. Hey, listen, I'm
going to come to this. But uh, you know, there's
a few bright lights on the hill. They are fully
bright yet, but there are some people speaking out. And
in the wake of the total assault on American civil liberties,
Daniel Patrick or excuse me, Patrick leahey, forgive me. You know,

(02:02:16):
had the temerity to write six letters to Attorney General
John Ashcroft demanding that he testified before the Senate Judiciary
Committee on such matters as military tribunals at Ashcroft's unilateral
decision to begin wiretapping attorney client conversations in terrorist cases.

(02:02:36):
And he said, I demand that you're responding me in writing.
I think it was by the thirteenth. Well he got
a response in writing, but it was an anthrax letter.
You notice they're only going to democrats.

Speaker 1 (02:02:54):
Had a couple of minutes.

Speaker 5 (02:02:56):
All right, now, let's look at this HR thirty one
sixty two, the Patriot Act. Hey, let's hear it. For
the Patriot Act, now it's group therapy.

Speaker 1 (02:03:12):
That's good, okay.

Speaker 5 (02:03:15):
In the most recent issue of From the Wilderness, we
covered some of the highlights or the low lights of
this bill, and I want you to listen to me
very closely. This is your constitution. We're coming now to
pay the bill for the price that you And remember

(02:03:36):
how I defined you at the beginning of this presentation
as all of the American people who failed to reconcile
accounts after the assassination of John Kennedy, of Bobby Kennedy,
of Martin Luther King of Iran, Contra of Vietnam, of Panama,

(02:03:57):
of savings and loan, of the genocide of two million
people in Rwanda, of the rendering to radioactive waste of
large portions of Iraq with the depleted uranium that's contaminated
with plutonium, the displacement of a million people in Columbia
within the last year. The bills are coming due, and

(02:04:18):
now it's.

Speaker 1 (02:04:18):
Your turn to pay.

Speaker 5 (02:04:21):
The Patriot Act that was passed just recently includes several provisions.
First of all, the FBI can enter your home in
a criminal investigation.

Speaker 1 (02:04:30):
I think it's criminal. They might have said terrorist. Doesn't
make a difference. How you define it.

Speaker 5 (02:04:36):
When you're not there without a search warrant, they may
seize whatever they want to seize and use it to
convict you in a court of law for a crime
when you didn't even know they came. How many people
know that the Fourth Amendment of the United States Constitution
is supposed to protect us against unreasonable searchers and seizures.

(02:05:02):
The Patriot Act also permits the CIA to share its
intelligence files with local law enforcement.

Speaker 1 (02:05:10):
Now what does that mean.

Speaker 5 (02:05:11):
Everybody knows the agency has been wiretapping people illegally.

Speaker 1 (02:05:15):
For a long time. So is the FBI co intelpro
I mean, you know.

Speaker 5 (02:05:19):
But the deal was is that that information, because it
wasn't obtained under reward, could never be introduced into.

Speaker 1 (02:05:24):
Court as evidence.

Speaker 5 (02:05:28):
Now, when the CIA turns all that information over to
the Los Angeles Police Department or the Chicago Police Department,
they can write that up as a probable cost statement.
Go out and find one other piece of evidence and
put it all into court.

Speaker 1 (02:05:42):
Gie, there's the Fourth Amendment is gone. The exclusionary rule,
it's gone.

Speaker 5 (02:05:48):
The Act also provides that local police agencies can share
their intelligence with the CIA, who may in turn share
it with foreign intelligence agencies. We have the beginnings of
able secret police. Echelon is a program of wire tapping
run by the United States, Great Britain, Australia, New Zealand
and Canada. And it was originally set up on the

(02:06:09):
premise Gee, it's illegal for CIA to wiretap Americans, but
there's nothing wrong with the Canadians doing it. No Americans
will wiretap, the British and the Australians will wire tap, and.

Speaker 1 (02:06:19):
Then we all share it. That's Echelon.

Speaker 5 (02:06:22):
And now all that information, now under the Patriot Act,
can now be used in terrorist criminal prosecututions. And it's
going to get worse for you in just a minute
here if it isn't bad enough already, Okay. In addition,
the Patriot Act allows cops to search for judges.

Speaker 1 (02:06:41):
You don't have to go to a judge in your jurisdiction.

Speaker 5 (02:06:43):
You can go to Joe friendly judge, thereby cutting out
any judge that might refuse a warrant because it's not illegal.

Speaker 1 (02:06:51):
Or because it's illegal. Excuse me.

Speaker 5 (02:06:54):
Now we have John Ashcroft saying he's going to wiretap
attorney client conversations in terrorist cases terrorist cases only only
I'm only going to do it I swear you know
involving cases of terrorists with florens.

Speaker 1 (02:07:09):
Now, the Fifth Amendment to the.

Speaker 5 (02:07:13):
United States Constitution says that we have an absolute right
against self incrimination and protected communications are those between an
attorney and his client, a husband and his wife, a
priest or, a spiritual leader and his confessor.

Speaker 1 (02:07:31):
Gone.

Speaker 5 (02:07:33):
We have President George Walker Bush announcing by FIAT, and
it evoked a stirring series of editorials by conservative columnist
William Sapphire that he will now have military tribunals to
try terrorists could be held here in the United States,

(02:07:54):
and in those military tribunals, they don't have to reveal
evidence if it's the.

Speaker 1 (02:08:00):
Interest of national security.

Speaker 5 (02:08:02):
They don't have to disclose the voting, they don't have
to publicize the trial, and the person convicted can be
executed even if one third of the officers disagree. The
sixth Amendment to the United States Constitution provides the right
to a fair and speedy trial, the right to confront
one's accusers, and to the examine and to examine the

(02:08:24):
evidence against him. Also, under the Patriot Act, it is
legal for the FBI to come into any business on
a terrorist investigation and seize all of the business records.
And what's more, there's a clause in there that says
that if it's your business, you can't tell anybody that

(02:08:46):
the FBI was there, or they can lock you up.
There goes the First Amendment, the freedom of speech part
of the First Amendment. Now, people who read this, who
want to defend the Bush administration will say.

Speaker 1 (02:09:01):
Good grief. They wrote a.

Speaker 5 (02:09:04):
Sunset clause into this. It's supposed to go away after
four years. Well, if you read the sunset clause, and
it's in my last issue from the Wilderness, there's a
provision in there. It says this clause applies except for
in any case where the terrorists where the investigation was
begun before the sunset clause takes effect, the sunset clause

(02:09:26):
doesn't exist. All they have to say is we started
this investigation before. It's a date in two thousand and five,
and there is no sunset clause.

Speaker 1 (02:09:35):
There is no Santa claus.

Speaker 5 (02:09:37):
Maybe this is just the beginning. I didn't become a
policeman to break clause. I became a policeman to protect
people and to enforce laws.

Speaker 21 (02:09:53):
In the article and Insight magazine, it was mentioned that
you didn't get a chance to read the bill completely
before you had to.

Speaker 14 (02:09:58):
Vote on this.

Speaker 1 (02:09:59):
That trip.

Speaker 16 (02:10:00):
That is interesting because a lot of people are fascinated
with that possibility, and it is true, and they think, well,
is this the first time that's happened, And I say, no,
anything that's important.

Speaker 1 (02:10:10):
That's the usually way they do it.

Speaker 16 (02:10:12):
Unfortunately, what they do is they fully Shenanigan say, you
don't have much time.

Speaker 1 (02:10:17):
But we look real hard for that bill.

Speaker 16 (02:10:20):
And even while I was going to the floor of
the staff still could not get it off the internet.
So that in itself should have been a reason for
everybody to vote against it.

Speaker 1 (02:10:28):
So there was not a full disclosure there.

Speaker 16 (02:10:30):
We had an idea that they were taking a reasonably
bad bill and substituting a very bad bill, which was
a Senate version.

Speaker 1 (02:10:38):
The House had actually cleaned.

Speaker 16 (02:10:40):
Up the Scentate version to some degree, but they switched
it that last minute. We did not have it in
front of us, so that even made it that much
easier to vote against.

Speaker 1 (02:10:48):
And I am a very poor example.

Speaker 5 (02:10:50):
Twenty three years, I've been shot at twice, I've been
made homeless, I've been forced into bankruptcy.

Speaker 1 (02:10:54):
I was told that if I ever had children, they'd
be killed.

Speaker 5 (02:10:57):
I was denied employment, I was arrested on phoney chair arges.
I've had all of that in twenty three years, and
yet my sacrifice pales by comparison to some brave men
I know, and I'll mention two out of dozens that
I know. One is cele Reno Castillo, a DEA agent
who lives in McCallan, Texas and poverty, who watched the
CIA loading planes full of cocaine at Elopongo Airfield in

(02:11:18):
Al Salvador, who confronted Vice President George Bush then and
who was told to leave it alone. It's a white
house operation. The DEA forced him out and almost killed
him like Cerproco. And the other is a marine colonel
by the name of Jim Sabo, who caught those CIA
one thirties CIAC one thirties flying cocaine onto his base
at Altora Marine air Station and was murdered because of it.

(02:11:41):
People like us, and I'm just one of many, have
been trying to tell people like you that unless you
face this now and pay the price, this is what
the end result is going to be, and it's only
going to get worse. Catherine Austin Fitz has a great saying,
if we can face it, God can fix it. But
it can't happen till we face it. Now, let me

(02:12:02):
show you what's on the drawing boards.

Speaker 1 (02:12:05):
This is being debated right now.

Speaker 5 (02:12:07):
Models State Emergency Health Powers Act as of.

Speaker 1 (02:12:10):
October twenty third.

Speaker 5 (02:12:12):
This goes in conjunction with the three hundred million doses
of smallpox vaccines that are being ordered. This is an
act that will give state and local governments the right
to seal off neighborhoods, herd people into stadiums, close down
all transportation, water and communications, seal off everything, suspend the constitution,

(02:12:33):
seize property, and suspend the rid of habeas corpus, all
justified under a supposed threat of massive biological warfare. This
is being debated right now. The criminality of this regime
is out of the closet. I noticed it was out

(02:12:54):
of the closet in May when City Bank bought Benemix.
They don't care anymore. They're arrogant. But I got new
for you. These guys, and especially George W. Bush, play
in a rigged game. They've always played in a rigged game.
And those who play in a rigged game get stupid.
Because they don't have to perform.

Speaker 1 (02:13:14):
Their arrogance gets them. Now, if you have.

Speaker 5 (02:13:18):
Any lingering doubts and you can go to my website
and read all of these documents of.

Speaker 1 (02:13:24):
Operation north Woods.

Speaker 5 (02:13:26):
These are declassified, top secret documents from nineteen sixty two
showing that the Joint Chiefs of Staff had planned to
shoot down two American airliners and blame it on Fidel
Castro for the purpose of getting a war with Cuba.

Speaker 1 (02:13:41):
You don't have to believe me.

Speaker 5 (02:13:42):
Go read the declassified documents yourself. They don't care about us. Okay,
They're all on the website. The Victoria's warlords set to
opium open opium floodgates. The Northern Alliance is planning opium
poppy's hand over FIST, and the CIA will control that
drug trade and control the money to keep the bubble

(02:14:04):
on Wall Street afloat.

Speaker 1 (02:14:06):
I want to leave you with a couple of thoughts.
I may have.

Speaker 5 (02:14:16):
Scared you, and I love it when people come up
to me and say, Mike, what am I supposed to do?

Speaker 1 (02:14:22):
And I know that in your head you're saying you don't.

Speaker 5 (02:14:23):
Want me to tell you what you're supposed to do,
because you want what you want me to tell me.

Speaker 1 (02:14:27):
Tell you is something that'll.

Speaker 5 (02:14:28):
Let you go home, drink a beer, watch your television set,
and manage your four on one K plan.

Speaker 1 (02:14:33):
Okay, Yeah, you can write. And I got to tell
you from the wilderness.

Speaker 5 (02:14:39):
My newsletter has doubled in size since September the eleventh.

Speaker 1 (02:14:41):
And you know what I'm doing with the money.

Speaker 5 (02:14:43):
I'm hiring reporters and I'm writing more stories. One thing
you can do. One thing you can do is vote
with your money. Stop giving money to people who lie
to you. Okay, Now, I'll give you a little word

(02:15:09):
of inspiration. I'll give you. This is a comment on
the Patriot Act. It says, our forefathers would think it's
time for a revolution. This is why they revolted in
the first place. They revolted against much milder oppression. And
who said it a Republican Congressman Ron Paul of Texas.

Speaker 16 (02:15:35):
To vote against the Patriot Act was a very easy
vote for me. To me, it was a clear violation
of the civil liberties of all Americans. It was called
Patriot Act because they didn't want anybody to vote against it,
claiming that if you didn't vote for it, you weren't
a patriotic American citizen.

Speaker 1 (02:15:52):
I think it was probably the opposite way.

Speaker 16 (02:15:54):
I think those who voted for it voted for a
bill to undermined the Fourth Amendment, the whole principle of
individual freedom and liberty in this country. So it was
very easy for me to oppose a bill that we
just open up Pandora's box with search warrants and the
whole ability to wiretap and listen to all our communications,

(02:16:15):
whether they were on the Internet, and check on websites,
the whole works. It was very easy for me to
vote against that bill.

Speaker 21 (02:16:22):
And there are other actions taken by the administration, including
military tribunals and Attorney General Ashcrofts announce when he's on a.

Speaker 14 (02:16:30):
Wiretap attorney client conversations. How do those make you react?

Speaker 16 (02:16:36):
I guess there are two there. I don't like what
he's doing. But the other part is is how did
we get to this point in our history where our administration,
our presidents, and our attorney generals do this by FIAT
just come up and declare, well, there's going to be
new military tribunals set up where we're going to wiretap
communications between the accused and their lawyers, and they didn't

(02:17:00):
even confer with the Congress. So I would say that's
very bad. Of course, there's the slippery slope there. They say, well, well,
we're only going to do this with the terrorists. Well,
how do we know who the terrorists are if they
haven't had a trial. So the whole thing is just
out of landish for a country that pretends to protect
the rights of the accused. And we challenge other countries

(02:17:22):
like Peru in recent years for setting up these.

Speaker 1 (02:17:24):
Type of tribunals.

Speaker 16 (02:17:26):
So I think that moving in this direction is a
serious challenge to the whole principles of the ten Amendments
and the Constitution.

Speaker 1 (02:17:37):
For all the.

Speaker 5 (02:17:38):
FBI agents in the audience, a revolution can be anything,
but I will tell you this that a revolution, according
to Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Monroe, and all of the founding.

Speaker 1 (02:17:49):
Fathers, is my divine right.

Speaker 5 (02:18:05):
One of the most offensive statements I have heard since
September the eleventh was Pennsylvania Governor Tom Ridge when he
was sworn in, and he said civil liberties are one
of the most precious gifts that we give our citizens.
I got news for you, Governor Ridge.

Speaker 1 (02:18:28):
These are inalienable rights. You don't give nothing to me,
We give them to you.

Speaker 5 (02:18:43):
In and during the Civil War, Abraham Lincoln suspended the
rid of habeas corpus, and it led to one of
the most powerful and most important trials that ever reached
the Supreme Court of the United States.

Speaker 1 (02:18:54):
The case was ex parte Milligan, and this is what
they had to say.

Speaker 5 (02:18:58):
They said, the Constitution of the United States is a
law for rulers and people equally in war and in peace,
and covers with the shield of its protection all classes
of men, at all times and under all circumstances. No
doctrine involving more pernicious consequences was ever invented by.

Speaker 1 (02:19:18):
The wit of man than that any.

Speaker 5 (02:19:20):
Of its provisions can be suspended during any of the
great exigencies of government. That was when we had a
Supreme Court. Now, I want you to bear in mind.
You may think that the system of government is still

(02:19:42):
mildly working here. Well, we had a law and then,
and you know what, so Congress is working, but you know,
Congress is totally subdued. They're rolled over there. You know
they're not fighting. So you think it's the court. But
bear in mind that the current Supreme Court is the
one that illegally gave George W.

Speaker 1 (02:19:59):
Bush the election victory.

Speaker 5 (02:20:01):
And when I say illegally, I mean it was a
butchery in the major media because the Florida law said
the clear intent of the voter. And what happened was
the Supreme Court stopped the counting when there were thousands
of ballots left uncounted that would have shown the clear
intent of the voter and said, we're going to make
a one case exception here, and we're going to say

(02:20:22):
that we stopped the count and we're going to just
recount the votes that we have and ignore the votes
where we could still determine the clear intent of the voter.

Speaker 1 (02:20:29):
That was an illegal decision. So where do you go
after that?

Speaker 4 (02:20:35):
The first most important thing that the American people should
remember is how George Bush came to the White House.
One through fraud and two through buying the election the
most money ever spent in the history of the United
States for this office. That's a crime, and that's a shame.

Speaker 5 (02:21:00):
All right, we are living get this in an empire.
Bill Sapphire said this about George W.

Speaker 1 (02:21:08):
Bush.

Speaker 5 (02:21:09):
He said, on what legal meat does this our caesar feed?
Bill Sapphire said that, okay, and it is an empire.

Speaker 1 (02:21:20):
Now.

Speaker 5 (02:21:20):
I want to go all the way back, and I
want to take you back before I shut up here
and leave you with one of my favorite quotes of
all time. The foundation of all mental illness is the
avoidance of legitimate suffering. And the country is mentally ill.

(02:21:43):
It'll wake up sooner or later. I don't know when.
I'm not God.

Speaker 1 (02:21:46):
I don't know where this is going. I know that
my job is to teach.

Speaker 5 (02:21:49):
My job is to give you information, and my job
is to clarify for you what's at stake here.

Speaker 4 (02:21:56):
Let's look at the fact that and this is the
most important point. It appears to me that the American
people might have a criminal syndicate running their government. This
would be especially for when you're considered changing the structure
of the intelligence community.

Speaker 6 (02:22:17):
And that is the challenger.

Speaker 5 (02:22:19):
What's at stake here is your liberty. This is a
criminal administration. It will not stop, it cannot turn back.
President Bush broke the Presidential Records Act of nineteen seventy
eight by refusing to release the Ronald Reagan papers. Arbitrarily
broke the law. John Ashcroft broke the law by ordering

(02:22:39):
wire taps of attorney client conversations and terrorist cases. The
Supreme Court doesn't exist.

Speaker 1 (02:22:48):
They're grabbing for the power right now.

Speaker 5 (02:22:50):
And you better rest assured, as sure as I'm standing
here tonight that the war that's supposed to be taking
place against.

Speaker 1 (02:22:57):
Terrorism is also a war against you. Thank you Hart.
You're listening to the Fact Hunter Radio Network.

Speaker 10 (02:23:22):
Just the facts, Mammy, m hm.

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