Classic Audio: We Were Deceived About What Happened on 9/11

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Here is your host, George Hobbs.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Welcome back truthseekers from around the world. It's time for
another edition of our Classic Audio series. Yes, it's Classic
Audio on a Tuesday. And there's two reasons why we're
adjusting our schedules this week. One, yesterday it was a holiday,
and nobody listens to podcasts on holiday. It's traditionally a
low number day number. Two, most importantly is this year

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September eleventh falls on a Thursday, so I'd like the
main episode to drop the day of So just for
this week and next week only, we'll do Classic Audio
on Tuesdays and Thursdays, which will be the fourth and
eleventh will be the traditional main podcast. Lots to talk about,
and really this is one of the heapest rabbit holes

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in all of the conspiracies, if you will, and all
the truths we should say, so many people involve, so
many countries involved, and the Hegelian dialect is put into play.
And if we look just how far their plan has
come in these just twenty four years, right, they needed

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nine to eleven to happen in order for COVID to happen.
So they do all of these things in order on purpose.
So again, lots to talk about. We'll be talking about
the kind of the prelude to nine to eleven. And
there's a lot more of these things than you think

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that intentionally happened. Number one psychologically, so when the event
did happen, you were more willing to accept it. And
number two just kind of you know, you got to
set up the house of cards before it can fall.
So today, you know, I pondered a lot, right which
classic audio We've played lots of Bill Bill Cooper. You know,

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I thought, let's bring back Christopher Bolan. And this is
a pretty good interview. It's not an interview, it's a
lecture he gave I think in Sweden about eleven years ago.
Let me get my notes that would be helpful. So
again we're going back to yes, May twenty fifth, twenty fourteen.
Christopher Bolin. He's an author. He was chased out of

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the United States many many years ago. Sadly he now
lives in Europe. His talk that you're about to listen
to was entitled we were deceive about what happened? On
nine to eleven, and listen, make no mistake, what happened
that day changed the course of history, and of course
not for the better. It's hard to believe, but it's

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been twenty four years now and we're continuously told the
same recycled story that nineteen, there's that number nineteen, like COVID,
nineteen nineteen, men armed with box cutters and their radical
ideology took down the most advanced defense system in the world.

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But you and I, you know, the folks that truly
seek truth, take the time and just do a little
bit of investigating, and you understand that the official narrative
is nothing more than a fairy tale. It's crafted, it's polished,
planned well ahead of time, so when it's delivered, the
American public will buy into it, hook line and sinker.

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But we know the actual story. The truth is more
complex and sadly, far more sinister. You know, they want
to tell us that these cave dwellers in Afghanistan were
behind this, but we know it was a network of
deep state operatives, Israeli intelligence, financed by Saudi and of

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course carried out by the American neocons who were hungry
for endless war. And global dominant dominance, right, global, right,
here's the coincidence.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
True.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
But this alliance, and I can tell you firsthand, set
the Middle East a blaze and it destroyed millions of lives.
And the folks on this side of the pond even
you know, everyone was affected, right, everyone, every country, but

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more you know, the Iraqs, the Afghanistans, the Libyas, the Serias.
They truly felt right. New York City felt it on
that day when the you know, when our government betrayed
its own people and carried out that event, and three
thousand people in their families suffered, and they put this

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country into fear and the world in fear. And we
were like, please save us, and we trusted this evil government.
And look where we are today, right, and now we've
handed them the keys to further entrench their new world order.

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But it's important to remember going forward, all of these
things are just that they're more than just about worldly possessions.
This is a it's not just a geopolitical event. This
was a spiritual attack. On September eleventh, two thousand and one,
that morning, Satan himself announced his presence on the world stage,

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and he said the new World Order is here, and
those everybody remembers, the smoldering ruins of the Twin Towers
and Building seven, right, they were more than just steel
and concrete. They're destroys was meant to send a message
to us, submit to fear or be crushed. All you

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have to do is consider what happened after that. Wars
that never ended, surveillance systems that continue to expand, patriot
acts that stripped away liberty again in exchange for our
false security. Now we have children being born into a
world where being tracked and monitored and manipulated as normal

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to them. And yet these architects of chaos in the
boardrooms of the CFR think tank secret societies, they continue
to smile as their plans unfold. So that's why it's
important to go back and visit these lectures like the

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one you're going to hear today. Christopher Bolans. I'll tell
you the Meat and Potatoes is an hour number one,
about the first hour ten. After that, there's a lot
of Q and A. But there's still a lot of
interesting nuggets after that, and it takes a lot of courage.
You may not agree with everything he says, but both
he and his family has paid a dear price for

(07:13):
his truth sinking because he had the courage to stand up.
He had the courage to name names and expose what
the mainstream controlled mockingbird media would never touch. He's not
afraid to point the alliance between Masad Right Intelligence saught
these oil and money interest and of course the American

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Neocon warhawks. He wasn't afraid to declare that nine to
eleven just wasn't a false flag. It is, or I
should say, it was a spiritual flag that was planted
right into the heart of the American psyche. So again
it's hard to believe. We're, you know, nine days away

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from the twenty four year anniversary of that evil. And
keep in mind as you listen to this audio that
it's not simply about revisiting the past. It's more about
understanding the blueprint, because the same forces that orchestrated nine

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to eleven are still moving the pieces today. So if
you understand the blueprint when the next thing happens, you
can be more discerning, right, because we know what their
goal is, one world government, one world currency, and of
course a one world religion, the b system foretold in scripture.
So stay awake, stay discerning, because the truth will set

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you free, even in a world that's built on lies.
So let's go back to May twenty fifth, twenty fourteen,
Christopher Bolan's we were deceived about what happened on nine
to eleven. God bless you and we will see you
Thursday night at eight pm Eastern time.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Thank you? Can you all hear me? All right? Sounds working?
Thank you for coming. It's a nice crowd. It's a
great pleasure to be here. Yeah, in Juttaborg. I live
in jun shipping Huskvarna, and I have been an independent
journalist for twelve years, since June of two thousand. What

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I want to start by doing is UH do a
little introduction about what this event is going to be.
We're going I'm going to UH talk for about an hour.
There will be plenty of time at the end for questions,
because in a group like this, UH questions are one
of the most important things. And a little note is

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that everything that I'm going to talk about today, I'm
gonna present fact actual evidence. I will refrain from any
speculation or any sort of idle talk. Everything that I
show you will be factual information which you will be
able you could verify for yourself, because nine to eleven

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is simply too important of an event, too important of
a thing a subject to speculate, to leave speculation. So
the event is, have we been deceived about what happened
on September eleventh? This is a very very important question,

(10:38):
which is why we're talking about why I'm talking about
it thirteen years nearly thirteen years later, because September eleventh
was an event that changed our world. Whether you're an
American or a Swede, a Norwegian, an Israeli, a Palestinian,
and Iraqi anywhere in the world, the world has been

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fundamentally changed by this. It was used to usher in
obviously the war on terrorism, radical changes in the United
States of America and around the world, and Swedes have
been very affected by this. Let's see. But I want
to start by asking just a very brief straw poll

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because I want to get some idea of what you think. Now,
don't be afraid, you don't have to raise your hand
or it's completely voluntary. But is there anybody here who
at this point believes the government version, what thement, what
the US government has told us about nine to eleven,
that basically it was a terrorist operation done by Osam

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bin Laden and nineteen of his comrades who hijacked the
planes and then committed this crime. Does anybody here have
believed that to be the case pretty much at all?
You do it? You kind of believe that's case? Okay?
How many of you would be in the group that
would call themselves skeptical? You you, you kind of doubt you,

(12:02):
kind of you have you have questions about it, but
you're not quite sure. Anybody here, it's just kind of
like in that skeptical camp. Okay, couple. Good And how
about how many of you here belong to the other
side of the spectrum. How many of you believe that
the US government version and the media version of what
happened in September eleventh is nothing but a pack of lies? Okay? Okay,

(12:26):
that's so, that's like the majority of you. Good. Well,
I want to start by thanking que bono for having
me here. Qui bono, of course, in Latin, means who benefits,
who benefits, And it's the typical way that crimes are
often solved. You ask who benefited from the crime. And

(12:46):
I want to thank the friendinging for inviting me here.
This they invited me here after I had a similar
event in Yunshipping, Sweden, back in February. And this is
a very nice crowd. So we'll talk for I'll talk
about forty five minutes and then we'll we'll have questions. Also,

(13:08):
I'm the author of a book, Solving nine to eleven,
and if you are interested in more material, you can
get the books from my family in the back. Let's
see here now. My background is an investigtive journalist. I'm
from Chicago. I was born there and I was working

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for IBM in Schomberg, Illinois, where I'm from. I had
a young family, and I was very involved with the
Estonia catastrophe because my wife lost a loved one on
the Estonia catastrophe in nineteen ninety four, and I had
lived in Sweden. My children were born in Sweden. I

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have some family connection to Sweden. My mother's father came
from Redvick, and I always saw Sweden as being a
country that worked for very well. It was a I
liked it. It was neutral, that it was neutral in wars,
and that when I would go to the Middle East,
I would often find Swedish and Norwegian. The governments had

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done good things for like the Palestinian people. They had
built a hospital, for example, or they gave real aid
to the people, and I thought that was wonderful, and
so I was here. I was in Sweden when the
Estonia sank and the day that it sank, and I
became involved in looking at that, looking at what happened

(14:36):
to the Estonia ship, and I realized, I'm not gonna
talk a great deal about this, but I realized that
there was some some covering up. Some of the information
what happened to the ship was being pushed under the rug,
and I really wanted to investigate it more and write
about it. And I wound up being offered a job

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as a journalist in Washington, d C. In two thousand
and I got involved as an I was an investigtive journalist.
That was my job. I wrote for a little paper
in Washington, DC that was called The Spotlight, and my
first big job, my first big story was the US
elections in two thousand, which were clearly stolen. They were stolen.

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And what I discovered having worked for IBM, I found
out that we were now voting on computers. Basically in Chicago,
you would go and fill out a ballot, but the
ballot would be counted on a computer, and the computers
were being run by a private company. And this was
happening all across America. So what happened is, as you remember,

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in the year two thousand, the elections were stolen for
George Bush. And in November of two thousand, I realized
that if private companies are involved in stealing US elections,
they're not doing it to put good people in office.
And that's when I first realized that we had a
very serious problem in the United States with a government

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that was not accountable to the people. And in the
in the January of two thousand and one, they finally
made George Bush the president. The Supreme Court just said
stop the counting George Bush as the president. Then a
couple weeks later, Ariel Sharon was elected became Prime Minister

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of Israel. And for a person like me who watches
the Middle East very closely, this was a very dangerous constellation.
This meant that the Leequid Party was in power in Israel,
and we had our American Liquid Party, if you will,
in power in the United States. And it was exactly
the same constellation that we had in nineteen eighty two

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when Menachem begin was in power in Israel and we
had Ronald Reagan in power in the White House, and
that brought great problems the Middle East, that brought the
war in Lebanon, terrible terrible disaster in nineteen eighty two,
saw branch taila and all that. Well, I'm going to
go on now to let's see. I want to show

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you a few pictures about what happened on nine to
eleven because I want you to understand to see these
pictures because they show important information that I will refer
to later. So we'll start with this one. This is
a photograph in two thousand and seven in Santa Monica, California,

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And this is to show you just a little idea
of the amount of public opinion that is on your side,
on our side, these people in California. This is a
well to do community. You even have a US marine
in there. They say expose the nine to eleven cover up,
Demand a new investigation. Neo con jobs Iraq nine to eleven.

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Where they say demand a new investigation, I have to
say one thing. This is a very important aspect of
nine to eleven. There has been no investigation people don't
realize that. People think that like the nine to eleven Commission,
like the book that this lady's holding, they think that
was some sort of investigation that was not an investigation.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
That was a.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Political appointed committee that dealt with very specific issues and
came out with a crafted document that they had decided
they would produce in the way it was produced, was
written by Philip Zelikow. They had a pre ordained conclusion,
and they made the myth. They're actually like the authors

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of the myth of what happened on nine to eleven,
But that was not an investigation. Then there were the
building reports. There was a building reports of what happened
to the Twin Towers. They only did investigation and engineering
investigation of what the buildings, how the building's performed up
until the point of collapse. And then there was another

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subsequent investigation engineering investigation only of what happened to Building
seven and the Pentagon. But none of these were criminal investigations.
When nine to eleven happened, three thousand people were killed
in New York City alone. When the Twin Towers came down,
two seven hundred people were in those buildings. They all died,

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of course, so this is a scene of mass murder,
and in a scene of mass murder, usually the investigation
begins with the evidence. And the evidence from the World
Trade Center was composed of basically two physical items. They
had the steel and they had the dust. That's all

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that was left in the World Trade Center steel, big
piles of steel, rubble steel, and big piles of dust.
That was it. And what the United States government did
very promptly is they allowed the steel to be treated
like recycling. They removed the steel immediately, sent it to
two junk yards in New Jersey where was cut into

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pieces this short or shorter, mixed with other steel, and
put on boats and sent to China where it was
melted down. That there's a real question there. At the
time when nine to eleven happened, the price of scraps
steel was the lowest it had been in fifty years.
So rather than taking that steel and recycling it in

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Pennsylvania or Ohio, they put it on ships and sent
it to China, where you're paying twenty five dollars a
ton just to ship it. Why would they do that?
This was destruction of evidence, and the destruction of evidence
was done by the very people who were in the
official positions to investigate it, namely the US Department of Justice,

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which operates the FBI. The FBI ran the investigation. The
FBI was under. FBI was under John Ashcroft. John Ashcroft
was the Attorney General, but the assistant attorney in charge
of the criminal investigation of terrorism, which is what nine
to eleven was, was a man named Michael Chertoff, who's
an Israeli American as it is, and he is the

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one who allowed the officials in New York City to
take the steal, destroy it and get rid of it.
So let's just look at these. I want to show
this shows you that there's a lot of people out there.
We're a small group here, but for every one of us,
there's hundreds of people in our in our countries who
are demanding the truth. They understand that this is a

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very very important subject. These are the two books that
I wrote, The Deception That Changed Solving nine eleven. The
Deception Changed the World. It is my thesis basically, which
is the concise explanation of my whole working thesis that
I developed over a period of ten years. And the
original articles is the book is the articles that I

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wrote because I was a working journalist and I began writing.
We happened to be in New York City on nine
to eleven, passing through New York City, and I began
it was just up my alley. I began writing about
it right away, and I wrote a lot in two
thousand and one, two thousand and two, et cetera, et cetera.
Year after year, I continue my investigation. Some years I
wrote less, some years I wrote more. And then things

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really started heating up in two thousand and five. We'll
get back to that. What happened in two thousand and five,
two thousand and six, a little bit later, all of
you should have something like this in your hands. There
were envelopes given at the door for people who came.
And what this is is this is Architects and Engineers
for nine to eleven Truth. This is a group that
started in San Francisco, California. The group is composed of

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three thousand, about three thousand engineers and architects in the
United States, the people who build these buildings. And I
wanted everybody to have this document and the material that's
in this envelope because these people are professionals. They build
these buildings. They understand the physics at work. They understand
the laws of nature. They know what buildings do when

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they burn. They know what built how. But the forces
are involved. And there are, as i said, about three
thousand architects and engineers in the United States who are
demanding an investigation because they tell you that, for example,
Building seven, the third building that fell that day, did
not fall from fire. Actually, none of the buildings fell

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from fire. These towers, the three towers that collapsed. That's
why they have three streams of light here, one and
two and seven. But seven is a building that fell
at five o'clock in the afternoon. It was forty seven
stories tall, and it was about a block away from
the North Tower. It had fires in it had burned.
But at five twenty in the afternoon, people came out

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of the building and they said, get back, everybody, get back.
It's going to come down. Get back, And sure enough
it came down. The owner of the building was Larry Szilderstein,
and he told he said that you know, we decided
to pull it, and then we watched it come down.
The expression pull it is an expression that's used in
demolition when you're going to pull a building, you pull

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it down, you put you put charges in it, you
knock out the core columns, and the building falls. And
as we know with buildings, buildings, towers one, two, and seven,
they all fell at free fall speed. The two giant
towers fell in less than eleven seconds. And that's a

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four hundred and fifteen meter building falling down. That means
that there was nothing stopping it. That means that the
cold structure, the cold structure below the impact zone, provided
no resistance. I'm really glad to be speaking in a
place where Neils Harratt has already spoken here and Nil's
Hart has talked about in greater detail about what they found.

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But clearly, as these as the architects and engineers, material
will tell you, the official version of what happened to
the towers one, two and seven is simply not believable.
It's not possible. So what did happen? This is impact

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the South Tower. This is a few milliseconds after the
plane struck the South Tower. This is the second building
that's struck. I just want you to notice a couple
of things here. You see that there's explosions going off
and pieces of the building are being thrown out this
first part here where you see this white cloud, that's

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the entry that's where the plane went in. And you
see that there is a very white cloud coming out
with a very light orange flame. You see that white orange,
that very light orange flame. That's important to note because
that is not kerosene. When kerosene burns jet fuel, it

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burns a darker orange more like you see over there
to the far end. But we see with the black
smoke coming out here in this side and the dark flame,
the dark yellow orange flame, that's kerosene. The question is
what's what's what's exploding in the in the entry wound?
What is the plane has just gone into the building
at about four hundred and fifty five hundred miles an hour,

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they say, and we're seeing a huge blast coming out
of the entry wound. And this, I would submit, is
is the The white smoke is very indicative of thermite.
Just as as you understand, when thermite detonates. Thermite is
an incendiary It's made out of aluminum and iron oxide.

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When it when it detonates, any version of that detonates,
you're going to get white smoke, which is the lumine oxide.
Incredible heat release and molten iron. Those are the byproducts,
and we certainly got a lot of molten iron, but
we'll get to that later. But this white smoke is
very suspicious. And when they use these kinds of things

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in Hollywood, when they make a movie, they use thermite,
variations of thermite, as in scendiaries to create the spectacle.
When you see those Hollywood movies, that's often thermite bombs
going off, and they add, for example, barium. A little
bit of barium will make uh, we'll give you an orange,
nice orange flame like that. So they add they can
add different things to the mixture to get different results.

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Here's the North Tower. It's a very interesting photograph because
the plane has just gone into this this side that
we see here, and look at what we see coming
out the back of a building here on this on
this side, it's a it looks like a cotton bale,
looks like a big bale of cotton. Pure white smoke. There's, uh,
there's no explanation for that. If that's the plane's fuel burning,

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there's no explanation for what's causing that that large white
cloud there. And then there's a very important detail. Both
planes flew into computer rooms secure computer rooms. Say, for example,
this if this room we're in right now is a
computer room full of gigantic servers, full of computer stuff,

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locked all the time, only certain people get in there.
But both planes went into computer rooms. Now this is
I think very interesting because if these planes were being
remotely guided, you know, if they were like missiles, the
computer would be telling the plane, come here, come here,
come here, and the plane would be saying I'm coming,

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I'm coming, I'm coming, and it's like a guided missile.
That's possible, that's certainly possible. This particular, this particular impact
went into Marsian mcclennan. Marshian mcclennan is a company owned
by formerly by Maurice Greenberg. And it's interesting that the
man who was working for this company was of course

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very much involved. Maurice Greenberg was very much involved in
the bailout, the AIG bailout that came in two thousand
and eight, two thousand and nine. But one of the
people from Marsha mcclennan became the American envoy to Iraq.
His name was Lewis Bremer, Jerry Lewis Bremer. He was
if you remember when the Americans took over Iraq, they

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sent over a civilian man to run the country. We
call him like a pro consul. He came from this company,
this very company. And another thing is that this company
Marshall mcclennan, and they had another company that was responsible
for security at the World Trade Center since nineteen ninety

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three when they had the first bombing in the World
Trade Center, Kroll and Associates, which is associated with this company.
They had security. They ran security the World Trade Center.
This is I put this photographic here because this shows
you the difference. This is the South Tower. The plane
has come like this, entered from this side, gone out

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this side, just to show you the difference in this
smoke and the flames, the dark stuff, the sooty smoke
that's jet fuel burning, most of the jet fuel burned
on impact like this and this explosion here coming out.
I contend I would submit that that's thermite, and that
both both both computer rooms were pre had preplaced thermite

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in them so that when the plane hit you got
this big, spectacular explosion. And you understand if this is
thermite burning extremely hot temperatures, so that anything that goes
into that into that into that ball of fire will
be basically destroyed. There will be no evidence. Everything will

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be melted because the temperatures that are achieved in such
huge thermite explosions burn everything up. There's nothing left. And
we saw there was very little left of the airplanes.
Now as we see forty five minutes later, an hour later,
the towers pulverized. What we saw, what we all saw,

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anybody who looks at these images saw, was that the
towers began to demolish from the top down. There were
people there who felt explosions at the basement, in the basements,
eyewitnesses when the planes hit experienced explosions in the basement.

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As William Rodriguez, who was a janitor in the World
Trade Center said, there was explosions in the basement before
the plane hit. So there were bombs going off. And
BBC the BBC had Stephen Jones, Stephen Evans there, excuse me,
Stephen Evans was there their journalist. He was at the
World Trade Center on September eleventh, when he was on

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BBC World News. He was an eyewitness and he talked
about the series of explosions that he felt and saw
at the World Trade Center. Before the buildings collapsed. Then
they turned down his mic. They turned down his mic,
and then they said, well, tell us, you know what
did you see? And he turned his mike back up
again and he went on again about the series of
explosions that he saw. He said, we can't we have

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no idea the human damage, the human cost of these explosions.
He never talked about that subject again. Only the first
day he talked about it. Then obviously the people in
London at BBC said, please, don't talk about explosions anymore.
And this is what we saw. All across the media,
people who were there talked about explosions. Eyewitnesses talked about explosions.

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My first article was about eyewitness explosions because it was
even printed in the American newspapers and American magazines. Firefighters
who went in the buildings saw explosions. Firefighters were died
in the buildings from explosions in the basement, I mean
in the in the in the lobby, on ground level.
It was just big explosions. What caused that? Well, then

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we saw then we saw these towers basically demolish into dust.
We call this pulverization because each floor, each floor was
the size of one American acre, which is about two
hundred and twenty feet by two hundred and twenty feet
something like that. And each floor was four inches thick,
about ten centimeters of lightweight concrete which was held in

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a steel pan. All of that material was pulverized. You
didn't see. For example, if you see an earthquake in
Turkey and these buildings come down, you see a level
of pancakes. You know, a floor at the floor, at floor,
all pancaked on top of each other. You might see
it's a terrible thing to see, but that's what happens
with tall buildings. When they pancake, they fall down and

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you have like a stack of pancakes. Nothing like that
happened at the World Trade Center. Every single floor was destroyed,
turned into dust, and that dust was spread all over
Manhattan and into the ocean around Manhattan, and some of
it went to Brooklyn. And in some places the level
of dust was like after a snowfall. You would get people.

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There would be dust this deep in streets of New York.
Here you see here you see the the some of
the some of the columns falling. Now, what's important to
understand about these World trade centers is one important thing
to understand. They were very very strongly built buildings. They
were the biggest buildings in the world when they were
built in the late sixties early seventies, and they were overbuilt.

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They had forty seven core columns, and the core columns
were you know, shaped like a big box, and those
were in the middle of the building and that was
the core, and then there were there were peripheral peripheral
columns around on the outside walls. There were like two
hundred and twenty of those columns, and each face of
the building had windows. They were basically windows. The windows

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were two feet wide and in between each window, between
each two foot window was one foot beam. Okay, so
that means that sixty six percent of each side of
the building was glass, interrupted by thirty three percent, you know,
each each column. So that then you realize that those

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planes hit the buildings basically hit glass, and they would
have gone the planes could easily have passed into the
building because where the glasses, they just went right in
through the glass and those columns would have severed. The
columns would have severed the plane into pieces, would have
like you know, chopped it into chopped it like in slices.

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Here you see again. Now the question is what is
causing the energetic explosions we're seeing here? You are seeing
you see the width of the building. The building is
is you consider again, the building is about what did
I say, sixty six meters wide? Each face of the
building of sixty six meters wide. And you see that

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pieces of steel, these are heavy pieces of steel are
being thrown that much outside the building. That means that
there's incredible energy forcing those things out of the building.
This is not just a collapse. This is not just
gravity collapse. If this was a gravity collapse, you would
things would be going down. But something is throwing steel

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and dust and with great velocity sideways. This is a
pretty good indication that there was explosive explosives in the building.
Just to give you an idea, this is taken from
the New York Police helicopter. These images came out a
few years later, after nine to eleven, because they show

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you they show you the extent of this pulverization. This
is what happened to the concrete from the World Trade Center.
Each building had one hundred and ten floors, the floor pans,
the floors and everything on the floors was turned into dust.
That means also the twenty seven hundred people that were

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in the building, virtually all of those two thousand, seve
hundred people were turned into dust. Nothing was found out
of most of them. A few people on lower in
the lower the very very floors were found, but everything
else above was pulverized. So that means of course that

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this was a hideous act of mass murder, absolutely hideous.
Here's to show you what some people say, Oh, it
was nuclear explosions, and there was no steel left. No,
there was a lot of steel left. This is just
there were mountains of steel. And this is the people
who were involved in removing the steel from the World

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Trade Center. The man whose company was in charge of
basically taking the steel and chopping it up, said that
all that was remaining from the World Trade Center was
dust and steel, that's all. And you see here they
have lots of dust, but nothing, I mean lots of steel.
But there was in this pile. There were no toilets,

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there were no desks, there were no computers. I mean
they only found very small pieces of things that they
found pieces of computer like they found the hard disk
and they would take that hard disk and send it
to Germany to have the data, you know, find out
what that computer you know, was left that of that computer,
and they were able to find it. Actually, they were
able to retrieve a lot of the data. This is

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This shows you the box columns. These box columns that
are behind these firefighters are the core columns. There were
forty seven in each tower, just like the one that
you see behind the firefighter behind this firefighter here. This
is very early on. This is when they're still looking
for their They're still looking for their buddies. The firefighters
are our fraternity and they want to find the missing

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firefighters who died. That day, hundreds of firefighters died, and
so they were looking in the rubble. This is before
any of the removal of the rubble began. And if
you see on this, this is a very interesting photograph
because it shows that the big box column behind this
firefighter has been cut with what looks like a thermite charge.

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You can see that those box columns they were created.
They were built in Japan because they were so so
large and they could only do it in Japan, and
at the time, at the base of the building, at
the very base the walls of the box columns were
ten centimeters wide. The walls of the steel. See so

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that that box column there is pretty close near the
bottom because you can see the thickness. You see the
thickness of the walls of that column are every bit
of four inches. And then as the as the columns
got higher and higher in the building so that it
would be less you can't have such heavy stuff at
the top. They were only a quarter inch thick. So
they tapered the wall of the box column went from

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four inches to a quarter inch. Had it got thinner
as it got to the top. It got much thinner
because that much These were the load bearing columns. These
are the columns that held up buildings. And as you
can s, if you want to bring down a tower
and the tower is held up by forty seven core columns,
those columns have to be cut. Questions how were they cut? Well,

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this one was certainly cut by something that caused melting
of the melting of the steel. Here's a very interesting photograph.
This is from a video. This is why it's a
little bit. It's from a TV video in New York City.
This is a south tower. This is about five ten

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minutes before the building came down. And what we see
coming out of this building is molten molten iron. You
see that like a volcano pouring off the eighty first floor.
It looks like what happened is that the eighty first
floor broke tilted down and there and that this molten

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iron found a way. It was obviously a big pool
of it. This is several This is what we're seeing
right here is several cubic meters of molten's molten iron.
This is not aluminum. In some places, like in the
Government Government of document, they refer to this as aluminum,
But aluminum at this temperature is silver, not this color.

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So this is most likely iron. So what caused? What
caused a gigantic pool of molten iron? This is basically
at the impact level. This is basically where the plane.
The plane came out this side. The plane came out
this end, and we see some some items, some objects
from the plane or what hit the building come out

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very fast off this side of the building. If you
ever look at the video of this, you will see
when the south towers hit, look and see what comes
out the other side. Two items come out very fast.
One is burning white hot, and the other one is
burning a normal color. The one that's burning white is
leaving behind a dark trail of smoke, but only a

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few feet behind the item itself. This, I submit is
probably depleted uranium, because depleted uranium is used by the
Americans in missiles all the time. It cuts through anything,
it cuts through steel, it goes right through steel, and
it's pyrophoric, means that it's burning in the air. So

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when the Americans or the military fires depleted uranium missiles
at for example, a tank, that missile will go right
through the tank, never mind how strong the tank is.
It goes right into the tank. And then the depleted
uranium is burning white hot inside the tank and it
bounces around inside the tank, incinerating everything in the tank.

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So anything that's in that tank has just turned into charcoal.
There will be nothing left from the tank. And this
is what America has been using in Yugoslavia, in Iraq,
in Afghanistan, and a lot of times they actually hit
their own people. And these tanks, these these these items,
these these vehicles are then very very toxic. So what

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the United States has been doing Raytheon company, they take
these these destroyed trucks and cars and tanks. They take
them the Pacific Ocean and to the Marshall Islands and
dump them in the ocean, try to create a reef.
But a couple of my readers were working on this
and they got very, very sick because just to come
into contact with these vehicles that have been hit by

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uranium is deadly. So this another thing that you consider
about this. At this point, we still have people above this.
If you, if you, if you go to a sauna,
you know that a very hot sauna is about one
hundred degrees celsius. This eighty eightieth floor, eighty first floor

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of this tower is at least twelve hundred degrees celsius
at least. And and if this was if this, if
this molten iron is the product of a if this
is a product of a thermatic reaction, that means that
this temperature was two thousand degrees two thousand, five hundred
degrees celsius. That explains why the people that were in

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the in the trap in the floors above the impact zone,
when they're on the phone, they say, it's very hot
in here. It's very very hot. I can't because they
were being they were literally being cooked alive. Because the
temperature of this thermite is so hot, anybody in the
floors just above this would be would be dead already.

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They can't you can't endure such heat. And and this
heat would go up through the buildings, They would go
through the elevator shafts, so that heat at this floor
would go right off that elevator shaft and come out up,
you know, in the floors above. So this is why
the people were so suffering some So this is another
image of this. It's like a volcano, a volcano of

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molten iron. Here this is from the United States Geological
Survey of the dust. I this is a very hard
document to get. But I was working with Professor Jones
when we were first looking into this thermite, and he said, Christopher,
can you get me some of the dust? Can you
get some of the dust from the world Trader. I said,
I don't know I can get dust. But I went

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out to California, to Davis, California, and I found the
book that the United States Geological Survey had written a
little booklet of papers about the dust. So the United
States Geological Survey had done a survey of papers and
they published these papers. The main characteristic of the dust
of the World Trade Center is these what's called iron

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rich spheres. This is like smaller than a millimeter. This
is maybe a half a millimeter or a tenth of
a millimeter, very very small. But what this is is
this is in all the dust there were these tiny
balls of molten iron. This is an iron rich sphere.
That means that the demolition of the World Trade Center
was accompanied by large amounts of molten iron. Now the government,

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the government cannot explain this. The government version cannot explain
why there's molten iron in the dust because nothing in
the government version can account for such high temperatures. Burning
jet fuel cannot do it. So this is this is
where the This is a similar sphere. This is molybdenum libdinum.

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This is another You can make another kind of therm
mate out of malibdinum, as you will see here. I'm
just showing you this picture. This is when we talk
about thermite, we're talking about something called alluminothermix. It's a
reaction when you mix aluminum. Aluminum is a very volatile metal.
When you combine aluminum with other metals and make a

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thermite product, this shows you the energy release. The top one,
the top bar is a aluminum mixed with molybdenum, which
is what that previous sphere. Then we have with nickel
with teflon. And then the bottom one is a I
think it's potassium chlormanganate or something. And it's just another one.

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But you see the military. This is from the US military.
This is from the Department of Energy. Do d in
the bottom corner says DoD Energetics. The US military use
makes this stuff. They make it in living More lab.
They make these kinds of products because they want to
find what product they can use that will create the
biggest bang. That's the people in the military kind of

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like that's the kind of research they do. What is
the most powerful explosive they can make? Well, they found
this is what they found in the dust of the
World Trade Center. This is a form of thermite. Thermite
is just a generic term. This is actually a nano

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composite of thermite. Nano a nano technology is when you
take elements and at a very very very small, almost
molecular size, smaller than one tenth of a micron in size,
and you mix them and when you create something with nanotechnology,
the reaction is exponentially stronger than it is when it's

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like sand, usually thermite, but they use on railroad tracks
and things. Is kind of like a powder. It's a
powder of rust and a powder of aluminium, and they
ignite it and they melt the track together and they
smooth it out. You melt the track together, it's in
Germany and Sweden use it all the time. But when
you mix it at a nano level, at a very
very very small level, then the explosive, the explosive potential

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is as much greater, much faster. So some people will say, oh,
Bullin's talking, you know, they're talking about thermite, thermites, an
incendiary Thermit's not an explosive. Well, this is because when
this reaction occurs, it happens very fast, very powerful. And
this is a bi layered material. One layer is the

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is the is the thermatic layer. The other layers is
an organic layer. The organic layer creates the gas. That's
the explosive. Okay, here we have again just the of
the extent of the polarization. Then when they started removing things,
you know, when they started pulling the rubble away, they

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started you know, they found that the rubble was extremely hot,
and they would they would, you know, come down there
and they'd find here, this piece is dripping. They've moved,
they've they've moved some of the taken some stuff away,
and they come to this red, hot, yellow hot iron.
And this is when they when they finally got down

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to the bottom. When when they finally took away all
the rubble, they were seven floors down on the bedrock
of Manhattan. They found molten iron in the molten state.
That means that for months and months this rubble had
cooked at extremely hot temperature and produce this blue smoke.
This kind of smoke you see here, This is extremely toxic,

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extremely toxic smoke because the fire is so hot, it's
producing tiny, tiny particles, and if you breathe this kind
of smoke, those particles will pass into your throughout your
system because they're so small, and they will get to
the cell, They get the nucleas of the cell, and
they cause these terrible cancers that people are dying from
in the United States. The people who were first responded,

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the firefighters, the policeman, all the people who worked on
the pile. They inhale this stuff. Even if you had
the very best respirator, it won't stop it. So it's
it's a very very risky thing to do to work
on this pile, like you see. And constantly, constantly they
were watering, they were dousing with water twenty four hours

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a day. They were pouring water on the fire, but
it didn't get cooler. See this firefighter here, he has
no protection at all for his lungs. Here just gives
you an idea of the temperatures. These are showing some
of the sites of one to two and seven. Seven

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is at the top. That's the third tower that fell.
That's at the very top. You see very hot temperatures
there too as well. And then in between there's Building
six where there's the big hole. There's a big hole
in that building. That's another very very strange thing about
World Trade Center six is that there seems to have
been a terrible explosion in that building before either tower fell.

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Before either tower fell, that's the US Customs House. That's
where they have all the evidence of crimes, big crimes,
and they have a lot of gold there too. This
gives you just an idea of the layout of the building.
South Tower, North Tower, Building seven. These are the three
towers that fell that day. Never before has a tower
fallen from fire on that day. Three of them did.

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Here we have building seven. Recently, this World Trade this
architects and engineers did a public relations exercise and they
put up advertisements in Times Square telling people about this
third tower that fell, because about forty three percent, about
half the American population, did not even know that this

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building fell at five o'clock in the afternoon. And it's
interesting that that same percentage of people who don't know
about this building believe the government version, which shows you
that the percentage of people who have very little understanding
what happened on nine to eleven is about the same
as the number of people who believe the government version.
It works inversely, the more you learn, the more you

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understand about what happened on nine to eleven, the less
likely you are to believe the government version. Here's the
man who basically owned all three buildings. His name is
Larry Silverstein. He was indicted for a large drug conspiracy.
That case was dis missed and involved Bill Clinton actually

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as well. And this man's basic claim to fame. Before
becoming the owner of the World Trade Center, he actually
leased it. He didn't own it. He leased it. He
owned Building seven, he leased the other two buildings. He
got the lease. He got the lease for the twin
towers on July twenty sixth, so about five weeks before
the buildings fell down. He got the lease, He borrowed money,

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got the lease, and he won. He sued for billions
of dollars. He got billions of dollars for this. Now
he's the guy who owns the Freedom Tower, the big
Freedom Tower. But this is what he said on public television.
He said, he says, I remember getting a call from
the fire department commander telling me that they were not
sure they were going to be able to contain the fire.

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And I said, you know, we've had such terrible loss
of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is is
pull it. And they made the decision to pull, and
we watched the building collapse. You know, Conspiracy theorists people
have said, well, this man is basically acknowledging that they
authorized the demolition of his tower. And that's people who

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you know, that's basically what you're saying. Okay, there were
a couple of other things happened on nine to eleven. Obviously,
the Pentagon This is a very important photograph. There's others
like this. We're told that a plane, we're told that
a large Boeing seven five seven came in flew across
the grass basically at grade level. They say at grade
that means at grass level, hit the building, and then

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the building collapse. Part of the building collapse. Now, the Pentagon,
the Pentagon has walls. The exterior walls of the Pentagon
are about a meter wide thick. It's about a meter
thick concrete brick. Here we see these spools. You see
the spools, these spools here of holding cable. Those spools
are about this tall. They're like seven feet eight feet tall,

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and they were doing construction work there. Now, if the
plane came in at grade level and hit the building,
where's the plane? You would you would expect to see
some of the plane on the grass. And if the
plane came in at grade level, those spools shouldn't be there.
I mean either either the either the plane would have

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hit the spools, but they seemed to be standing there.
Nothing hit them, and you don't see anything of the plane.
This is before the building collapsed. Forty five minutes later,
the building came down again. Here we see. We're told,
we're told that a Boeing seven to fifty seven hit
this building, but you don't see any evidence of it. Furthermore,

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when they removed the evidence from this building, we saw
nothing of an airplane. You would you would have jet engines.
You would have just the jet engines alone, are three
meters high, just the engines, the landing gear. None of
that survived. None of that is is was ever seen
in the Pentagon. So we're told to believe something that
we can't see with our own eyes. Now, this is

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the exit exit hole at the Pentagon. After going through
three rings of the Pentagon. Is there are concentric rings
in the Pentagon. After going through three rings of the Pentagon,
something came out of this hole very hot. And this
is all that we see. This is inside the Pentagon.
This is an exterior wall in the outside the Pentagon

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in the middle of it and the c ring. This
photograph was taken by the FBI. One little note about
this is that the engineers who wrote the report about
the Pentagon were not allowed to go to this part.
All this entire section where this hole is and the
the part of the Pentagon before this ring was barricaded

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off and no engineers were allowed to go there, only FBI.
So you can see that the investigation, the official investigation,
was all very very much contained. Here's what we're basically.
This is the NIST government document telling us National Institute
Standards of Technology. They're telling us what basically happened those

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little colorful boxes there are columns. Those are columns that
are inside the building of the Pentagon, and there we're
told that the plane came in like at that grade
level and then it passed all the way through, and
that the fuselage of the plane made that hole in
the wall that I showed you there. But there's a

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problem with this because it means that it would have
it would have had to go through it would have
had to go through columns that are still standing. So
it's it's and the third the third event, of course,
is Shanksville, Pennsylvania, and deep in the countryside in Pennsylvania.
Very few people live there. It's very rural. We're told

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that that this is from History channel. We're told that
the plane crashed here. If there's a little gash in
the this this big green field here is actually a
reclaimed mine. It's not a field it was a mine before,
and they when they reclaim it. When they reclaim a mine,
they you know, they've strip mined, they've taken everything out
of there. Then when they went to reclaim it, they

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dump a bunch of junk in there. In this case,
they put a bunch of old cola machines and pepsi
cola machines. Then they put a little bit of soil
on top of it and say, okay, this reclaimed, but
you really can't do much with it. You can't farm
it or anything like that. Well, this is where this
little hole here in the field, just in front of
the forest. That's where they said the plane crashed. But

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the FBI was doing all of its work about one
hundred and twenty meters two hundred meters into the woods.
All the recovery was going on in the woods. And
again the man who owns his mind, I talked to him,
and I said he lent the equipment. He lent the
big machines that the FBI was using. He said, the
FBI won't let anybody go there, but they're using my machines.

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He gave the excavators and the bulldog to the FBI,
and only the FBI was allowed to go into this
woods section. Here. There's a family there called the Hoover family.
And mister Hoover is a Lutheran minister. Upright, Fella and
his son Barry had a cabin and their cabins were
basically destroyed. Something terrible happened and their houses were like

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turned inside out, and they were not allowed to go
there anymore. The FBI. Only the FBI was able to
go in there. And I asked mister Hoover a couple
years ago, back in twenty eleven, I said, mister Hoover,
this is the minister. I said, you know, why, why
have you not come forward and told the people that
the crash site is actually in the woods. The whole

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American nation, the whole world is told that the plane
crashed in this little hole. Yet all of the bodies
and the luggage and all the stuff was found hundreds
of feet hundreds of yards in the wood. And he said, well,
you know, I wanted to cooperate. I wanted to cooperate because,
if you understand, I could talk to people who were
exposed to this these events. They were talked to by

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the FBI agents, and the FBI agents basically told like
the coroner, the local corner in this county in Pennsylvania,
the coroner is the man who is who's supposed to
be in charge of the accident scene. The accidents scene
in Pennsylvania belongs to the county coroner. In this case,
the FBI went up to the corner and said, you know,
are you could be a team player. Basically, the coroner

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then gave the FBI the scene of the accident, the
entire scene for them for themselves to investigate. And he
went and sat six miles away and just met families
and he just look like the public relations guy, but
his obligation is to find the dead bodies, identify the
bodies and signed a certificate. And I know this man.

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I called him a couple of years a couple years ago,
and I said, you know, Wally, don't you feel badly
about signing the certificates for people whose bodies you never saw?
And he got of course, she got very upset by
that question. But that's what happened. All of the bodies
that were taken, all of the human remains that were
found in Chanksville, Pennsylvania, were found in the woods. They

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were all picked up and taken to Dover Air Force
Base on the in Dover, Delaware, and as we now know,
many of them were basically just put in a landfill.
The bodies were just put into a garbage stump. It's
a big scandal in America today about that, but it's
a military. Here's the hole. I spoke to the girl

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who came to this hole as the first person to
the this is this is what we're told. This is
what we're told is the place where the plane crashed.
And I talked to the girl who worked just a
few you know, about one hundred meters away, and she
ran down to the they heard this big bomb. She
was like, sound like atomic bomb. And she ran to
there and she said, you know, it's about as big

(01:01:51):
as my little trailer in her front yard, about seven
meters long, seven meters wide, and a couple meters deep.
It looks a little bit bigger because the people are
standing behind it. But this is just a very small hole.
And as Wally the coroner said too, there was no
evidence of a plane or bodies or anything in this hole.
So what caused this hole? Here another photograph again, the

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rescue or the people are behind the behind in the
woods closer to the woods, so it looks bigger than
it really is. It's only about eight meters across. It's
a very interesting hole because this hole looks like it
was made by a air to ground missile. There were
people who were in Shanksville that day, in this little
part of the woods, and they all reported seeing military

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a military jet flying around in circles before the before
anything happened, and they described it as like a US
A ten thunder thunderbolt. It's a very it's a ground
combat plane, and it looks like a plane like that
fired a missile just at the ground and it created
this little hole in the ground. And we're told, we're

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told that this is where the plane went in. We're
told that the plane was flying like upside down, this
big seventy seven and went into the ground. And when
I went to the local paper and I spoke to
the man who who's supposed to answer questions like this,
he's actually a US Army personnel. He told me that
the plane came down at a very high speed into

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the mine and that the ground liquefied, the ground liquified,
and the plane just went into the ground. And as
said anybody said one wing bounced, one wing bounced off
the ground and went about half a mile in the woods.
I mean, this is pure fairy tale. This is this
is this is just you know, they think they were
absolutely idiots that we would believe this, But this is

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exactly what. This is the only story you hear in
America from the media. The US media and the world
media will only tell you this story. They won't tell
you any None of the questions that I ask are
even discussed in the US media thirteen years later, not
even discussed. What's interesting is that that trench, the trench
of that picture was pre existing. This the top picture

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is nineteen ninety four, shows that this was a trench
that they It looks like they burned stuff in there
or something. They had a trench and they some parts,
they did something with it. But then the pilot apparently
fired the missile into this trench, like he just put
his sights on that trench, say yeah, put missile right there.
It looked like an airplane. That's what they did. This

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is just some nine to eleven uh people. This is
in San Francisco. This is again my book, Okay, And
that wraps up that wraps up the picture section. I
just wanted to show you those pictures. Does the Abay
have any questions yet? Theyn't they have any questions from
the pictures that they'd like to ask? Okay, then we've

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now why are we talking about September eleventh thirteen years later?
Why does it matter? Because September eleventh was the seminal
event of our time. It changed. It changed our relationship
to our countries, to our nations, to our states. It
changed the relationship of our governments to us, the media, everything.

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Our world is a different place, and fundamentally it ushered
in the global war on terror. And the global war
on terror has two aspects. One aspect is the war
against Islam, the war against the Arab world, the war
against third world countries. And the other aspect is the

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domestic police state. You see it much less in Sweden
than in the United States, but in the United States,
nine to eleven was a catalyst that allowed a pre
existing law, a book of laws. Michael Chertoff brought to
the United States people, a law called the USA Patriot Act.

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That's an acronym. It doesn't mean anything about patriot, but
it created all kinds of new agencies. It created a
police state apparatus, so that in the United States today,
if you want to fly, you have to go. You
have to submit yourself to a full body scan basically
a full body X ray, which is very dangerous, bad
for your health and and you you you have to

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you have to submit to understanding that your telephone calls,
emails are being listened to by the National Security Agency.
They they they they the relationship of the American people
to their government has changed completely as a result of
this event. So but when you when you understand that

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the Patriot Act was written before, then you understand that
nine to eleven was basically just the catalyst. It was
what they needed to bring this war to happen in
order to they already had planned a war in Iraq,
they had already planned a war in Afghanistan. This was
all planned. They had already planned to bring in this
TSA and all these things in the United States of

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America that we have now. It's all planned. They just
needed the thing to make it happen. That's what nine
eleven was. It was the thing that that made that
made all that happen. Kay. And then in this war,
of course, the entire world's battlefield. After nine eleven, the

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Congress Congress passed the law called the USA UH the
Use of Force a Act, and it gave the President
Bush at that time the right to to wage war
anywhere in the world, at any time, in any place.
And this is basically the law that the use of
force doctrine that Obama uses as he signs off on

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killing people every week, he signs off on targeted killings. Yeah.
Actually during the nineties, yes, yes, the cooperated because yeah successful. Yeah, well,
let's let's take the questions afterwards. But it's what's very

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interesting is that this war on terrorism was, as you say,
was being incubated in the seventies. There was an institute
in Israel called the Netanyahu Institute, run by the family
of the Prime Minister today, and they had conferences on
terrorism and they had this idea that we will fight

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a war on terrorism. And what the Israeli doctrine basically
said was that terrorism is a scourge of the modern world.
Not that not that anything happens to Israel because of
political grievances between the Palestinians and Israelis, but that it's
a problem and the solution is to get all the
Western democracies to wage war on those countries that support terrorism,

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which is what we have today. And of course you
all know that Sweden has five hundred men in Afghanistan,
and that means that for every five hundred men in Afghanistan,
there are people who have been there, four who are
being recycled. Who you know that. So these thousands of
Swedes have been in Afghanistan, Norwegians, Danes, Germans, everybody is
involved in this war. But if what happened on nine

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to eleven, if the government version of what they what
happened on nine to eleven is not true, that means
that the entire war on terrorism is a fraud, like
those posters said, that means that we have been lied to,
We've basically been tricked into war. We've been tricked into
a global war, which is we see in Afghanistan, in

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Iraq and Somalia and Yemen, in many countries in Africa
and Asia, and that we have all been duped. We've
all been tricked into it. The world has been tricked
into it, not just the American people, but we've all
been tricked into it, and that we have to accept
it as like the new zeitgeist. The new zeitgeist is
that we will be waging war against Islam, Islamic terrorists,

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anybody who's involved in any way. But when you consider
that nine to eleven appears to have been a false
flag terror attack, that means a false flag tarr attack
is that somebody committed nine to eleven, the act of
nine to eleven, the terrorism, but the blame was put
on Osam bin Laden. So in that way, you can

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make a war against anybody you want, because you simply
can fabricate the event and then say they're guilty. Now
we go to war. And this is the way, this
is the way the United States and the West have
been fighting wars for a long time. But particularly you
saw it in the Balkans, you saw it in Syria,
you saw it recently in the Ukraine. You see that

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provocations and atrocities are created in order to excuse military
action by a noble Western country against a barbarian power
like they blame Serbia. Now they want to go to
war with Russia, and the modus operandi is is f
flag terrorism. We see of course airport security and the

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government intrusion to our private communications, and and that's you know,
that's where that's what we're we're living with today in
in in a state where the government has complete power
over you, and if you challenge it in any way,
you are an enemy of the state. The drones. And

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what this means is that the United States is effectively
waging war illegally in countries all around the world. And
that and that because Sweden has changed so much, and
that Sweden has very close ties to the United States,
Sweden and Norway and other countries have been brought along
and we're engaged in illegal wars of aggression. History Will

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Will Will Will Will tell us that the war in
Iraq was completely contrived. There weren't no weapons of mass destruction,
and that means that the war in Iraq is a
war of aggression. And obviously, if if nine to eleven
was a false flag terrorism attack, and if if Osam
ban Laden and the Afghani's had nothing to do with it,
then the war in Afghanistan is also a war of aggression. Obviously,

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this is this has affected the lives of thousands of
people Americans, Canadians, Candinavians, uh not to speak of the
millions of people who have been affected in the region
Iraqis and Afghans, Okay, the civil water. For this reason,

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it is essential that we understand whether what happened on
nine eleven is true or is not true. And if
the if the war on terror. If nine to eleven
is a fraud, then the war on terror is a fraud.
That means that everything that we except today as political

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reality is a fraud. So we've been lied to on
a huge scale. And one of the most interesting things
is is they just opened a museum in New York
City about nine to eleven, and it was a this
is a Bloomberg. Mayor Bloomberg opened this museum and it
is basically only there to institutionalize the official story about

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what happened on nine to eleven. To this day, the
American media does not even accept that the official version
has been proven wrong. So that means that our media,
our media is supporting the media and the government are
working together. Really it's the tail is wagging the dog
or whatever, but that the media is presenting the official

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lies as reality. That's the only reality. So it's not
unusual that in an event like this there will be
no media. No media will come to an event like this.
They don't acknowledge that there is any truth of nine
to eleven. They say that the government said this is
what happened. That's what happened, end of story, even though
the evidence clearly indicates that the US version, the media

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version of nine to eleven is false. It's completely false
that the buildings cannot fall like that. We have evidence
of thermite or something. A lot didn't didn't put thermite
in the building. So if there's tons of thermite in
the building, how did it get there? Who did it? Now?
These are the kind of questions that you know, you
have to you have to read my books or do

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a lot of research, but to find out and what
there's right now, what's going on is that there's a
great deal of misinformation, disinformation if you will. I just
wrote an article just yesterday, two days ago about Veterans Today,
which is a pretty respected website, But the man who
runs this website is basically saying that nuclear nuclear bombs

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were used in the World Trades Center. This is one
of the what I call red herring. They say one
lady says that there were there were space weapons like
uh directed energy weapons aimed at the building and this
caused the polarization of the building. That's her name is
Judy Wood. Another theory is this theory that there's nuclear
bombs in the building and the pulverization of towers was
caused by nuclear nuclear reaction. And I in this article,

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this man Gordon Duff, who runs Veterans Today, he said
this comes from Russian intelligence. He says, this latest revelation
comes from Russian intelligence. And I looked at his article
and his article is full of lies, not lies, incorrect statements.
You know, it's just it's just full, full, full full.
So you say, well, why is this man who has

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a who has a patriotic website for veterans, why is
he telling the people that there were nuclear bombs in
the World Trade Center? Because what he his his real
message in that article is that there was no thermite.
Then the evident of nanothermite is he says that was
created by the nuclear blast. He says, when the nuclear

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when the nuclear fusion reaction occurred, it created this iron oxide,
which is what he calls thermite. Well that's nonsense. You know,
iron oxide is rust. That's not what was found. And
a nuclear reaction did not produce that material that I
showed you So I'm just telling you this because so
that you can be aware that there is a great

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deal of disinformation. Our governments are not telling us the truth,
and there are other people in the in the alternative
media who are telling you stories. So you have to
use your own critical thinking. You have to what I
present to you, what I've shown you, what I tell
you is based on facts and and and those are

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facts you can check for yourself. That's what you have
to do. But most of us are actually you know,
we don't have the time to read the papers, the
twenty five page paper about thermite. We want to have
the quick and easy answer, but there is no quick
and easy answer because you have to do the reading.
You have to understand that you're being lied to from
all different directions. So you have to use your critical

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thinking to figure this out. So let's just take a
little break, and there's I know, there's some food back there,
and after you had a little break, there's books and
materials that you might be interested in. Then we can
take some questions. And I think that you probably have
questions that you would want to ask, and that's where
I would get the good give and take. So let's

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take a little break and come back in ten minutes
or so fifteen minutes. I have been writing about nine
to eleven, investigating nine to eleven since the day it happened.
As I said, my wife and I my children, we

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were coming from Vermont. We were passing through New York City.
It's a very easy little story here. We were driving.
We were driving past Manhattan at two o'clock in the
morning on nine to eleven, on the day of the event.
We had been up in Stove, Vermont. I was supposed
to go back to Washington, d C. I was a
day late. We usually live in Chicago, that's my hometown.

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I was working at home, and as we drove, we
were getting very it was very late. The kids were
sleeping in the back of the back seat of the car,
and my wife as we were driving down on New Jersey,
right past Jersey City, which is within eyesight the twin
towers just across the Hudson River. Hudson River there to

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keep me awake, my wife was telling me about a
dream she had the night we left Chicago, and that
dream was that we were driving towards a city with
a huge skyline like New York City, and a plane
a plane was coming and attacking us from in front.
And as we drove, this plane was coming at us,

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and about fifty meters in front of our car, the
plane went into the ground and she turned around and
and this is in the dream, and she saw the
plane come back out of the ground and swirl around
again to attack us again. And she's telling me this
dream on the morning of September eleventh, at about two
o'clock in the morning, as we're passing Manhattan. And this

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is the kind of very interesting kind of clairvoyance that
you sometimes people, you know, people are able sometimes to
sense something in the ether. There's something in the ether.
And I begin my book with this because it's called
the dream. This is a very very interesting thing. My
wife was picking up as Hella in the back. There

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she was picking up something in the ether. But this
we don't know how she did that, but this is
a very interesting thing. But now, if I had been
if we had been just driving a few blocks to
the east, if we had been going through Manhattan. You
don't drive through Manhattan if you don't have to, because
you have to pay a lot of money to go
on the bridges and the tunnels. Every bridge costs ten dollars.

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Every tunnel cost ten dollars where you drive around Manhattan.
But had we been there, we would have seen that
there were trucks. There were trucks leaving the World Trade
Center at five o'clock in the morning. As we now know,
there were large, two large, three large vans who were
at the World Trade Center in the morning. And this

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is about Building six. I shouldn't have mentioned one little
thing about Building six. That's the US Customs House. Now,
the Building seven that fell down, the big forty seven
story building that fell down five o'clock in the afternoon,
that was full of federal agencies, the CIA, the FBI, IRS,
Drug Enforcement Agency, all of those agencies were in that
building and they were investigating very very serious crimes like

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Enron gold scandals. In America, we had in the nineties,
incredibly huge scandals where billions of dollars were being stolen,
and as I said, even cases were even brought against
the President Clinton for being involved in drug smuggling. But
we now know that Clinton has the history of being
involved in drug smuggling, even since the time when he

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was the governor Arkansas. But these huge crimes had not
been prosecuted, and the evidence for these crimes was in
the basement of Building six. Because Building seven had no basement,
it was built on top of a power plant. All
of the evidence for these crimes was kept in Building
six in the vault, in the big vault. Now we

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also know that there was a FEMA videographer named Sonenfeld.
First name Sonenfeld of Guesse, Kurt Sunenfeld, young guy from Colorado.
He was the FEMA videographer. So on nine to eleven
he was called after the first plane hit. Five minutes

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after the first plane hit, he got a call from
his boss in Colorado said, get on a plane, go
to New York. You gotta go and cover this event.
And he was the official videographer for FEMA. And he
went around with his camera and he went everywhere only him,
and he went into Building six. And that's the building
I showed you with a huge crater, and it's a
six story building. But the crater goes down like ten floors.

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It goes into the basement, it goes into the sub
basement and the sub basement and the sub basement. It's
a very strange thing. The six story building was exploded,
hit by a missile or something exploded before either tower fell,
and firefighters. There's a couple photos of firefighters are spraying
the building from the West Street, it's called West Street,

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and vesse on that corn they're spraying. So a couple
weeks ago I wrote to the I contacted the New
York Fire Department. I said, I just want the end
the document that tells me what time you responded to
the fire in Building six, just give you an idea
of the cover up in New York. They won't give
it to me. They will not. It's called an in

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first document National Fire Incident Reporting System. Anytime a fire
department in America responds to any fire, they fill out
a document, what time they started, who went, what time
they finished, when they were cleared, basic information metadata, if
you will. They won't give it to me. They said, oh, well, no,
we know what happened on nine to eleven. This is
guy on the phone tells me Newark planes hit the building.

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For us, it's all like one big thing. No, it's
not one big thing. What happened to Building six? Well,
that videographer Kurt Sonnenfeld, who's not living in Argentina because
the US authorities won him. He went down into the
basement of building six. He poked his camera down there,
and he saw that the door of the vault had

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been broken. The pad, the security pad area was completely cracked.
He poked in, he looked in there, and he saw
that the entire vault was empty. The vault is fifteen
meters by fifteen meters. It's evidence in gold. All that
was in that vault at any time was criminal evidence
of very high cases and gold. Somebody had gone in

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obviously the night before September eleventh, the night of September eleventh,
tenth to eleventh and cleaned out the vault. They took
all that stuff out of there. And because he has
this video footage still in Argentina, he is his wife
was murdered or his wife committed suicide. Sorry, his wife
committed suicide. And the authorities in Colorado said it's a suicide.

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He didn't do it. But the US government says, we
want him, we want him. So luckily Argentina has given
him asylum. But the reason they want him is because
he has evidence of part of the big crime. So
I often refer to nine to eleven as if you
know those Russian dolls called mad Madroshka dolls, the Russian dolls.
When there's a doll inside of a doll, inside of

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a doll, inside of a doll inside of a doll,
and you look at it and you say, oh, that's
a nice doll. But you open up the top, there's
a little one inside there. And you open up the
top and is a smaller doll inside of each doll.
That's what nine to eleven is like. Nine to eleven
is a crime inside of a crime, inside of a crime,
inside of a crime. So when we just talked about
the police state in America, they and the war on

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terrorism and this this is just part of the crime.
Another part of the crime is that somebody went in
and stole the evidence, got the evidence out of other crimes,
and took the gold while they were there too. And
this is this is a question who did this? And
this is why Mayor Bloomberg was the mayor of New
York for twelve years he was. There was supposed to

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be an election in New York City on September eleventh,
but because of the events of nine to eleven, they
postponed the election a few weeks, a few months. But
you remember Mayor Giuliani ceased to be the mayor, and
Mayor Bloomberg the billionaire, the billionaire businessman became the mayor
of New York and he got one term, then a
second term. Then he said, will change the law for
a third term, and he was mayor for twelve years.

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Because during this time in New York, they had been
destroying evidence the whole time, because nine to eleven, the
crime of nine to eleven is a massive crime. And
we have today in the United States of America. I
just came back from Germany and made a little video
in Germany called why nine to eleven Truth is the

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only option? And this video has been very, very successful.
It's only seven minutes long, been very successful. Thousands of
people have watched it. People really like it because I say,
if we have in the United States of America a
government and media that refused to even address the issues
of what happened in September eleventh, they refuse to even
answer ask any questions about it. They refused to even

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acknowledge that it's a problem. They say, we told you
what happened, that's it. Now we're fighting a war in Somali,
or we're fighting a war in Afghanistan, and that's end
of discussion. We do not have a free media when
the media refuses to ask any questions. Shortly after nine
to eleven, a bunch of relatives from Boston came down.

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You know, many people were from Boston. They came to Washington,
d C. They came to the Capitol lawn in June
of two thousand and two, and they demanded to see
their Congressman. Hillary Clinton came out, and Kurt Richard Geppart
and all these guys came out, and I was there.
It was a lawn full of people, hundreds of people
with signs, very sad people, the pictures of their children

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and their husbands, their lost loved ones. And not a
single camera from Washington media was there. Sea Span didn't come,
Washington Post did inn'come. Why nobody came? And I called
Sea Span, I said, why did? This is the first
time that nine eleven relatives have even come to Washington.
They're demanding an investigation, and Sea Span doesn't even come

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and cover it. This is the way it has been
for twelve years now. I said, Now, my logic is this,
if we have a government in the United States of America,
that refuses to investigate what happened on nine to eleven.
Then we have a government that's controlled by the people
who carry out nine to eleven. Because the only people

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who are being protected, the only people are being protected
the United States of America or in the world by
I'm going cover up? Are the culprits. Are the people
who did this? Now this is a massive crime. And
the thing is that people who carried out nine to eleven,
they knew that the media would not investigate what they did,
and they were right. How did they know that because

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they owned the media. They owned the media. And we
used to be in America. We used to have when
I was growing up, We used to have hundreds of
newspapers owned by hundreds of families. Now we have five
companies that own all the media. And I States of America,
you have somebody like Rupert Murdoch. I met Rupert Murdock
once when I first came to America. I was a

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skier and I was a ski guy, and I skied
with him and I was asking him about his recent
acquisitions of the Chicago Sun Times. You know, it's a
cross country skiing in Colorado, and I was wondering, how
is it that this man comes from Australia and buys
up all the media in America. Maybe if any of
you go to Germany, you'll know the same thing happened
in Germany recently. Saban, an Israeli guy who made the

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Power Rangers or something, he went down to Germany and
bought up a bunch of media. And usually Europeans are
very careful about who they sell their media to. Germans too,
not with Chimes, Saban Chimes. Saban just brought it up ZDF,
A bunch of companies sat eins, they belonged to him. Now,
same thing happened in America. So we had basically five

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or six companies controlling all the media in the United
States of America, TV, radio, newspaper, and none of them
investigated nine to eleven. And so, for example, when they
decided to go to war in Iraq, Rupert Murdoch had
one hundred and sixty newspapers that he owned, and every
single editor of every single paper agreed on the need

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to go to war in Iraq. See there is we
have no diversity of media in America. So they knew
that the media will not ask any questions about what
happened on nine to eleven, and that's what's happened. So
we have a situation where the media and government refuse
to acknowledge what happened on nine to eleven. They are
actually continued to maintain the lie, even though we have

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known since two thousand and nine of the evidence of
nano thermite in the World Trade Center. Well, Osama bin
Laden didn't put nano thermite in the World Trade Center.
So the official story has been the official version of
what happened in nine to eleven has been dead since
two thousand and nine. Yet it's like a dead man walking.
It keeps going, It keeps going, it keeps going. So

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you say, well, how can this be? How can the Americans?
How can the Americans keep getting governments that keep maintaining
the lie? Well, was because we don't have a democracy
in America. We have not had a democracy in America
for a long time. What we have in America now is,
as I told you about the voting machines, we have, basically,
in plain English, we have a crimocracy where the elections

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are controlled by private companies for the benefit of the
people who run the elections to put criminals in power.
So we have people like Bill Clinton. He's charming, he's nice,
he's a ladies man. People love him, but he's a criminal.
When he was governor of Arkansas, there was a great

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deal of cocaine being brought into Mena, Arkansas. You maybe
have heard the stories. That's all true. He was involved
in drug smuggling. So there's this criminal element that controls America.
Now we're being told we're still two years away from election,
but we're told that Hillary Clinton will be the next
president or Jeb Bush. As if there's only two families

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in America become presidents, we can only have Bushes or Clinton's.
It's pretty soon a's be thirty five years and all
we have is Clinton's and Bushes. And you tell me,
what is it about Jeb Bush that makes him presidential?
Was the same thing. I'm from Chicago. Obama is from
my town. Well supposedly, but when I was living in Chicago,
he never did anything. He was not known for anything

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at all. And suddenly he got elected to the Senate
because the candidate he was running against withdrew from the race.
This is how Obama has always won his elections. He
he becomes the only candidate running, the other candidate dies
or or the other candidate excuses himself because of in
the case of that election, some sexual striptease impropriety, and

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so Obama was running by himself. Well, as soon as
he won this race where he was the only candidate,
national public radio, which I call national propaganda radio, they
came out on the air and they said, oh, and
he is so presidential, And I said, wait, he just
came out of Chicago. He won an election against a nobody,

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and he's presidential. Then you see, that's how it works,
so that the only people that can be elected in
America are those who we are given these like these
bubbles rise to the surface. Hillary Clinton, Jeb Bush, That's
who you'll choose between. That's it. There is no there
is no grassroots political movement in America where they say

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we like this guy. No, it's not like that at all.
And because they control the election machines, of the votes
in America are counted by computerized companies. The last time
they had an election in Chicago, I was there. I've
been digging elections for a long time. The election, the
company was running elections. I went behind the scenes. It
was a bunch of guys from Venezuela. A bunch of
guys fro Venezuela, and I said, I just came from Venezuela.

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You guys are counting the votes here. Yeah, it's they
own the company all the votes in Chicago, in Illinois,
Cook County, where I'm from, we're being counted by a
Venezuelan private company accountable to no one. So this is
why we have governments and media that are accountable to
no one. They treat us, the people, very much the
same as you're treated here. As the third sector. We

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are simply like the cattle. We're like the cattle. We
don't have to be explained anything to. If they want
us to run that direction, they throw a bomb over there.
The cattle all run that way. They want us to
move in an intended direction, they throw a bomb that
way that way. And this is the situation we're in
right now. So you probably have some questions. I know
some of you have some questions, and I want you

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to ask the questions now. If anybody eh any comments
or questions about anything, please ask please sir.

Speaker 4 (01:34:14):
Sure you haven't less America, yes, yes, where you usually dying?

Speaker 1 (01:34:26):
Okay, A very good point. Yes, it is usually when
you come to CLO. Yes you were at older Yes,
yes they tell me that, yes our and yeah, well yeah,
I know, I I know. I've been chased out of
two countries. Now we we we had to leave America

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because I was malicious prosecution. Uh, undercover police came to
my house. Three of them. They've been going around my
house for a couple of days. This is back in
two thousand and six. This is just after we discovered
the nano thermite. We discovered the nano thermite. My research
indicated that that's definitely involved, based on what I found

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in California and from Professor Jones. We were talking about
it on the radio. Professor Jones was working on it.
He was attacked. I was attacked. I was attacked first
in my house. In August two thousand and six, three
hundred covered police came to the house. They I came
out of the house. I said, who are you? What
agency are you with? They knocked me on the ground,
They tasered me, and they broke my arm and prosecuted me.

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They said, you attacked us. I just asked, who are you,
Why are you? Why are you coming to my house?
Why who are you? And then they then they criminalize you.
You see, then you have to fight off the charges.
In America, in Illinois, the way it works is that
they they say you're you're charged with this and this.
Now you you basically have to plead guilty to one

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of the charges. They give you an option, they say, okay,
you can choose. You can take plead guilty on this
one and we'll take I went away, but you have
to plead guilty. You have to play guilty to something.
And I said, I did not assault those men, and
I did not resist their arrest. I called nine to
one one. They came. They beat me up, and oh
you want a trial. Then, oh my god, oh my god.
Lawyers quit. They don't want to deal with this because

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trials are very uncommon in America, and it's very corrupt,
very very crooked. All my evidence was disregarded. I had
an expert, I had hired an expert on police procedures
to discuss. He was not allowed to talk. So they
found me guilty of both charges. I attacked the three
heavily armed men, they said, and I had resisted their arrest.
Therefore I faced a year in jail, and I was

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given three weeks before sentencing, and then you're at the
mercy of the judge. But having seen that the process
was completely corrupt, with no respect for the truth, I said,
I can't not submit my family to this trauma any longer.
So we went. We went back to Europe, we went
to Norway because you cannot. You cannot put your children

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through this, your wife this, you know. And then in Estonia,
same thing happened. In Estonia, I discovered this, I don't
know if you're familiar, Leave its Ord. This is this
intelligence operation which is very Zionist, trying to get Russian
Jews to go to Israel. Well, I had discovered that
this guy who handed the captain of the Estonia ship
over to the Americans at a base in Sweden was

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Toyvo Trema. Toivo Trema is a pastor and leave its Ord.
His name was Toivo Trema, Toivo Trema, and he was
a high level American military intelligence agent who had been
educated in their schools in Arizona and Texas and Virginia.
And you see, what's happened in Estonia is that the

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US military intelligence basically runs the country. And for that reason,
when I hellya and I. We were given this material.
We we found out information about what happened on the
s the night that it sank, and afterwards I published
it and then we were We were basically prosecuted in
Estonia too. The same thing happened there. Police started following

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me everywhere I went, three meters behind me. Everywhere I went,
there's a policeman following me. And then they told tell
you that you know we're gonna arrest your husband. We'll
take away his passport and put him in jail for
three years. Well, you don't be You don't want to
be in jail in the Stonia. You don't need to
be jail anywhere. You never ever submit to tyranny and
go to their jails unfairly. If you've committed a crime,

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do your time. But if you're an innocent person who's
being prosecuted by these corrupt people, you never give in Yes,
Stone jail, huh to hater, Yes that's because Carl built
is the because Carl Yes, yes, of course of course

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you do. But uh, I mean I very well may
very well do that. But you see, we have really
been burned by Estonia catastrophe. We had to leave Estonia
in the middle of nite. We just had to pack
the bags and get out, because that's the thing is,
it's very traumatic. But you know, in Sweden, when you
talk about Estonia in Sweden, it's very dangerous, it's very dangerous,

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very it's it's dangerous. I'm doing talking about nine to eleven,
but nine to eleven, and I'm an American, Swedes have
a lot of respect. I give Carl Built this much
credit that he says that you have freedom of the
press here. When the Israelis were involved in that Oregon
smuggling and things like that a couple of years ago,
and some journalists and often blowed it wrote about it,
Carl Bilt said, no, I will not give in to you,

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mister Natanyah. We have freedom of the press in our
country and we respect the right of people to say
what they think. For me, that's it. Wow, that's great.
I'm in the right place. I'm in the right place.
And so I I think that Swedish people are very fair.
They have an innate sense of fairness. They're very polite,

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and they're very intelli and for that reason, and they're
not violent. And I've had too much violence in my life.
To you know, I'm afraid to go back to America really,
because it's getting more and more violent all the time,
and there is nobody that stops the police or the
government from killing people. They just kill people. And that's

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what they wanted to do with me. I'm sure they
wanted to put me in a cook on the jail,
because then they would have done what they often do
is that they get somebody to beat the hell out
of you, beat the hell out of you so badly
you never think again. There's an eight million dollar man,
eight billion dollar man, Alan Stanford, a big tall guy
from Texas. Maybe you remember his bank went out of business.
He owed eight billion dollars, disappeared from Antigua and Texas.

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They put him in a private jail in America, and
this big, strapping six foot six cricket player was beaten bloody.
He was just beaten bloody. Then the judge says, oh, well,
now you got to give him medications. They gave medications,
and then six months later they said the judge says, well,
now his brain is gone. We can't try we we
can't have any trial anymore. You would think that for

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eight billion dollars they would protect the man to find
out where the money is. But they don't want to
find the eight billion dollars, just like with Madoff, they
don't wanna find where the money went. They know where
the money went, they don't wanna They don't want you
to know that. So but I think Sweden is a
good place to be right now. Yeah, he is elected exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
Then what was the h.

Speaker 1 (01:41:42):
Yes, yes, filmmaker? Uh yeah, h do you mean the
filmmaker who the the late filmmaker who died?

Speaker 2 (01:41:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:41:51):
Uh? Uh, I yeah, I don't know, I I I
I N I know his some of this stuff. It's
been a long time, but I I can't say anything
about him. I just don't have I in my head
right now. You might be doing it, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:42:07):
Uh. He was invited to become a friend of the
legal rocket feller of who Nicolas and Lincoln Rockefeller.

Speaker 1 (01:42:15):
Okay, uh and uh he was kind of doing well,
come and join us and uh will.

Speaker 2 (01:42:21):
Uh will help you up whatever? Thinking all that right,
We'll give you a play may guard for instance, what
is that he's.

Speaker 1 (01:42:28):
A kiss my ass card had a want they stopping a.

Speaker 4 (01:42:33):
Speaking or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:42:34):
You got shot the car and you can golf, But
he reflects back, after all these events that you've been
talking about that actually he.

Speaker 2 (01:42:43):
Climbed this friendship with rocket Feller.

Speaker 1 (01:42:46):
Yeah, he realized that nine months before nine eleven, who
was stole by rocket all that was gonna be a
big event.

Speaker 2 (01:42:56):
That was gonna, as I understand, the change the.

Speaker 1 (01:42:58):
Goal, right, that's big when all these exactly exactly it's
the same Aaron Russoll are u s s O Rustoll. Yeah,

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it's just like the the the the big general who
was in the Pentagon after nine to eleven and he
talks about you know, he he was a former chief
of staff of the military uh KNA and and he
heard this he heard he said, yeah, and we're gonna
we're gonna do like seven countries. He listened off boom
boom boom, boom boom boom, and then we'll go do
this and this and this, and that's exactly what's happened.

(01:43:44):
That's exactly what happens. Is that this is there's this
war agenda. I sometimes refer to it as the U
A Zionus war agenda because for example, it's the Zionists
have a have a an agenda of war, if you will,
and like they when the United States went in and
destroyed Iraq as they destroyed Iraq for a period of

(01:44:05):
at least twenty one years, from nineteen ninety to two
thousand and three, twenty year war against Iraq, first a
punishing war against the country, then extremely punishing sanctions in
which something like a million children died. And when when
the Secretary of the US Secretary of State, mattel In Albright,
was asked, you know five hundred thousand kids had been

(01:44:27):
killed by these sanctions, do you really think is the
price worth it, she said, yes, we think it's worth it. Well,
Iraq happened to be the most powerful Arab foe of
the State of Israel. Whenever some Palestinian kid would go
do a suicide bombing or something like that, Saddam Saddam

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Hussein would send a twenty five thousand dollars to the family. So,
I mean, some kids would do this just to get
the money for their families in Gaza. So you know,
they it's terrible, It's a terrible, terrible thing. But whenever,
whenever the Israelis are pushed to make peace, they react
with something. And when nine to eleven happened, the Israelis

(01:45:09):
were being pushed towards peace. They were being pushed. There
was being pushed, being pushed, and there was some real
movement towards peace in the Middle East. Then nine to
eleven happened. All that went to hell, and Iraq was
the country they really wanted to go to first, but
for some reason, probably because of leaked information, they went
to Afghanistan first. But the real target, of course is Iran.

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They want to surround Iran and they want to wage
war against Iran, and they don't they don't pretend that
this is that this is not their idea. Benjamin Natan
Yahoo comes to the United States and speaks to the
whole Congress and says, we have to go to war
with Iran. We want you to do it. And Congressman
get there and applaud crazily. Yeah, let's do it. I

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mean this would be this would be World War three. Well,
they didn't get that war. Yet, they didn't get the
war in Syria they wanted. Now they're fomenting a war
in Russia. It's like has this world gone mad? And
everybody knows that in the Ukraine, the so called revolution
in the Ukraine was completely an American product. You had

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the assistant Secretary of State. Her name is nuland Victoria
nuland she remember the lead telephone call when she said
FU to the year about the European Union. What she
said about the europe Union, Fu, that's not important, it's
what she said before. Then she said, yeah, yachts, Yachts
will be the guy. Yachts is the guy we want
to run the government, not Klichiko, not the boxer, not

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the other guy. We went yachts. That was two weeks
before the government fell, two weeks before the massacre of
the February twenty second, twenty first, twenty first and twenty second,
when old people snipers were being but the snipers, the
snipers were shooting from behind in the hotel. They were
shooting from behind. That means a false flag operation. They

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blamed Yanukovich. But the shot are coming from behind. That's
not Yanokovic. That's false flag terrorism. Well, how is it?
An American secretary of State is dictating who will be
the new government in Ukraine, and that's who becomes the
governments of Ukraine. And I know in Sweden, you're you're,

(01:47:18):
you're taught that Russia is a dangerous big country. We
have to be fearful of Russia. That's where they're taught
in Estonia. That's what they're taught all across Eastern Europe,
in all the countries in Eastern Europe, like Estonia, where
the Estonian people are taught and told, you can't have
relationship with Russia anymore. You have relationship with New York,

(01:47:39):
with London, with Stockholm, with Tel Aviv, but nothing with Russia.
So they actually tore up the track between Thaaland and
Saint Petersburg. They they they teach the people in Estonia
that Russia is the big bear. He's gonna he's gonna
do something to you. Russia in the Ukraine has only
tried to stabilize the situation was made terribly unstable by

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the U. S Revolution, and they're trying to create a
war and people are falling for it. Yes.

Speaker 5 (01:48:08):
Yeah, c A couple of things that regarding a uh
new and Uh, I guess Joe Biden's uh Sun is
now the CEO of a big Ukrainian oil company.

Speaker 2 (01:48:22):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:48:22):
That was one o the sweet thing I wanted to
ask you. Was there any movement about the massad agents
the flour Israelis On nine to eleven that were uh
witnessed filming. Oh yeah, uh, you know anything more about that?

Speaker 1 (01:48:36):
And I seemed to have right often. Yeah, yeah, that's
a very interesting story. He's talking about the the dancing
Israelis we call them. On nine to eleven, there were
these five men who were who were seen as the
World Trade Center was burning across the river. These men

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were like dancing and high fiving and clicking the lighters,
you know, like hey, yeah, we do you good. And
behind them, you know, two thousand people are being cooked alive.
And that's very bad taste to do something like that.
And when you're surrounded by you know, the lady saw
them and she called the police. The police came, and

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finally at noon, when we're driving, when we're driving on
September eleventh, we're driving back to Chicago, we're going to Pennsylvania.
You know, Ted Copple comes on the news. He says, yes,
this is Ted Copple, and uh, you know, FBI is
looking for five Middle Eastern men who were seen videotaping
and celebrating the burning the World Trade Center and Middle
Eastern men. Hm. Well, it turns out they were arrested

(01:49:39):
that afternoon. They were Israelis and they were. They were
Their van was pulled over. It was one of these
moving vans, you know. They were working for this Mosad
company called Urban Moving System, which was a front, a
front company. The the van tested positive for explosives. They
had thousands of dollars tucking socks, They had duplicate passports,

(01:49:59):
and they had box cutters, all this stuff they needed
and they had been at the World Trade Center that morning. Well,
it turned out that these men were, as I said,
two of them were Mosat agents and the other three
were operatives. And that was not It ceased to be
a story at that point. It was only reported in
a local paper in New Jersey and that was the

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end of it. New York Times didn't touch it. Mainstream
media didn't touch it. It was one of the first
stories I wrote about. I spoke to Paulo Lima. These
men then went back to Israel and were interviewed on
November in November of two thousand and one on the
uh Uh yah Heir Lapede show Yahir Lapide he's a
big politician now and he said, and they said on

(01:50:43):
the show, yes, you understand that our country is a
victim of a lot of terrorism. We were there to
document the event. They said that in plain Hebrew. We
were there to document the event. So this is this
is just this is just one of those things that
indicates that Israeli intelligence knew something was going to happen.

(01:51:05):
They knew something was gonna happen. They said they were warned,
they warned the American people and all that. But ever
since then, that's and what we did. We also knew
that on September eleventh, in the afternoon l Al and
l Al seven forty seven, when no other planes could fly,
the Department of Defense gave them the clearance to fly
to Israel. So it was full of it was full

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of Israeli's going back to Israel on September eleventh. And
we also know one of the most important things I discovered.
I think it's very important, is that Ahood old Merit
Ayhood old Merit is the Prime Minister of Israel who
has now been sentenced to six years in jail for bribery.
He may start jail time September first, but he was
in New York City on September tenth, two thousand and one.

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I found that in the sports page of the Jerusalem
Post because he was there negotiating the sale of the
Bay Time our football team soccer team Betar, which is
the lee Kuld's football team in Jerusalem. He was involved
in a transaction reported on September tenth in New York City.
Now what's strange about this is this is the this

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is the deputy Prime Minister of the State of Israel.
He's also the mayor of Jerusalem at the time, which
is the sister city of New York City. So when
when a person of that stature comes to New York City,
it's usually from page news. On this particular time, September
tenth and eleventh, it was not reported at all, only

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in the new only in the Jerusalem Post sports page.
So it's it was, it was completely Although Giuliani knew,
the FBI knew, US government knew, they all agreed that
we will not talk about the fact that Ahoot Olmerit
is in New York City on September tenth and eleventh.
So it questions what was he there for and why

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was it being kept secret? That's that's that's a very
important question. Yes, actual questions for you, Yes, do you
have any additional information about the stand down.

Speaker 2 (01:53:06):
Order of the aircraft that was in order to.

Speaker 1 (01:53:12):
Do you have any about the big lot of family,
but things do not from the United States stay day. Yeah,
I I know that the ben Laddens, a lot of
the ben Loaddens flew out the same day as you said,
Cause the bin Loddens a very big family, and they left.
About the stand down orders, it's very weird. I don't
know about the stand down orders per se, but we

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know that the military, the US military was completely unable
to send any planes to the World Trade Center before
the second attack. It makes no sense because they were
flying from Massachusetts, they were flying very fast. They should
have been there, but they were apparently misguided in a way. Uh.

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Very much like when we talk about what happened to
Flight three seventy. The American military was unable to make
any response at all. And this is very important to
understand that they were doing big games that day, many
big games. In these games simulated hijackings exactly. They One
of the games even simulated a plane being flown into
the Pentagon, well not the Pentagon, but in National Reconnaissance

(01:54:18):
Office in Shantilly, Virginia. They were doing a drill. The
National Reconnaissance Office is the agency of the United States
government that operates the spy satellites all around the world.
And it works for the Department of Department of Defense
and the CIA, and they operate a whole network of
spy satellites that watch over the whole world. And on
September eleventh, they were doing a drill when a plane

(01:54:40):
was going to be taken off from Dulles Airport, which
is a few miles away. The plane was gonna take
off and crash into their building. That's the simulation. But
when the reality happened on September eleventh, what did they do?
They sent everybody home. They said, everybody goes home, only
a skeleton crew remains. Why would they do that? Very odd?
All the people who man America's satellites on September eleventh

(01:55:03):
around the world were sent home. Just another thing. Yes, uh,
I wonder be like, what's your betty about which kind
of elements the government knew about?

Speaker 2 (01:55:15):
Yeah? Yes, which involved Yes, you knew about it like
the military.

Speaker 1 (01:55:23):
Very good question, whatever, but very good question. When we
talk about when we talk about nine to eleven being
inside operation, an inside job, I say, it's an inside
job in the same way that a tapeworm is inside you.
It's a parasite. Obviously, the American people, the American government

(01:55:46):
doesn't kill thousands of his own people because they want
to have a war in Afghanistan or Iraqi. They want
a war in Afghanistan, rock they just go do it.
They don't need to kill thousands of people. All my
research in case that it was a it was an
operation that was done by a group of people who

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have very devoted ties to the extreme right wing element
in the state of Israel. This is the lee Quid Party,
This is Ariel Sharon's party, this is Menacham Began's party.
I was living in Israel when this party came to
power in the mid seventies. When when Menacham began and
Izak Shamir came to power, you now knew that you

(01:56:30):
had real thugs running the government, and the usual Israelis
who are Labor party people. For them, this was a heartbreak.
They said, the terrorists have taken over our country, and
people that are not Israeli or familiar with Design's history
don't appreciate what happened. But when Menacham began and ytzak

(01:56:51):
Shamir took power. I sak Shamir is the guy who
killed folk at Baronadut. To bring this up today's reality,
Rami man Well, who was the man who ran Bill
Clinton in the White House and became chief of staff
under Obama. Romney Mono Well from Chicago. His father was
a member of the Starring Gang involved in the murder

(01:57:12):
of folk Bernadots. That means that a son of a terrorist,
the son of a real terrorist, was chief of staff
the United States of America. You see, people don't understand
what that means. But these are extremely radical people. They
come from revision of Zionism. They come from the Jabotinsky
school of Zionism. The Jabotinsky wrote, we have to build

(01:57:33):
an iron wall. Everything was iron. If you look at
what the liquid does, everything is iron, brain, iron wall,
iron fist. Everything's iron. And they built the iron wall.
Ariol Schuran built the iron wall across Palestine. Today you know,
Bethlen is surrounded, Calculia is surrounded. The West Bank is
like Berlin, except the wall is twice as high and

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four times longer than Berlin wall ever was. And the
world but these are the people who took power in
the United States of America. We had the man who
oversaw the non investigation of nine to eleven is Michael Schertoff.
Michael Shratoff was the Assistant Secretary Assistant Attorney General under Ashcroft.
He was responsible for the investigation of nine to eleven,

(01:58:15):
the investigation that never happened. There was no investigation. He
allowed the evidence to be destroyed. He then became He's
the guy who gave us the Patriot Act. He then
became the Director of Homeland Security. He then gave us
all these TSA. He then sold us. He was the
agent who sold us the machines that we all get
X rayed at. So I mean this is he. His
mother was a Mossad agent. His mother was involved in

(01:58:37):
Operation Magic Carpet when they when they snuck all the
Yemeni Jews to Palestine in the late forties, and they
did the same thing in Iraq. You know, in Iraq
there was a large Jewish community that didn't want to
go to Palestine. You know what they did, They blew
up their synagogues. Mosad Mosad, the Mossade what the Mosad

(01:58:58):
stands for Mossad ali a be Mosad was an immigration agency.
Masad was the Agency to stimulate illegal immigration to Palestine.
That's how it started. And so because the Iraqi Jews
were very happy living in Baghdad, they didn't want to
go to they didn't want to go to Palestine, they
had to stimulate them. So, like I said, if you
want the Iraqi Jews to leave Baghdad, make living in

(01:59:19):
Baghdad difficult for them. Ario Cheron was Prime Minister of
Israel at the time of nine to eleven. Ario Sharon
believes firmly he believed that American Jews belonged in Palestine,
blonged in Israel. French Jews he would go to America.
He speak to American Jews, he say, you shouldn't be
living in America. Your place is in Israel. American Jews say, well, yeah, sure, right. Well,

(01:59:42):
if you want those American Jews to go to Israel
but they don't want to go, what do you do?
You make life very uncomfortable for them in America. So, unfortunately,
his Zionism often creates anti Semitism. They created themselves because
anti Semitism makes life uncomfortable for Jews. They say, they say, yeah,
maybe we should go to Israel. You see. So at

(02:00:03):
nine to eleven. If if my information came out on
a larger level, many Zionist Jews in America would be
very uncomfortable. They will be very uncomfortable if the truth
comes out. Well, what is their choice? Then go to
Israel And unfortunately the people who run Israel today are
maximalist extremists. Mister Natagniah's a good example. And the man

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who ran the Pentagon, the money man at the Pentagon
was a zb dove Zachon Doves Zachon. He's a rabbi.
He oversaw the Pentagon budget. If you remember, there's a
great deal of money missing from the Pentagon budget that
was discovered on September tenth. Billions and billions and billions
of dollars were missing. Well, if you're running the Pentagon budget,
you can put money into black operations here or there

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and nobody knows the difference. This is what we talk
about when we talk about inside and when we talk
about inside operation, we talk about people who are serving
another government but are inside the US government. As my
wife will said, you you can't have two loyalties. You
cannot be a patriotic loyal American and a patriotic loyal
Israeli at the same time. At some point you have

(02:01:08):
to decide, oh this, I'll do this for Israel today,
you see, and something like that happened on nine.

Speaker 2 (02:01:13):
To eleven, like latures and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (02:01:17):
Well yeah, yeah, no, No. The US political the US
political party system is completely controlled and it's controlled by
the same people who pulled off nine to eleven. I
don't know exactly all people, but our political parties are controlled,
our political elections are controlled, our media is controlled. Everything's controlled.
So it's it's uh, you know, and same thing in Britain.

(02:01:38):
Same thing in Britain. Every British Prime minister has a
handler who who who is like his his liaisigon between
him and the Rothschild family, the people who put him
in power. And that's why British politics is also so corrupt. Yes,
the main motivation is the endgame is war. The endgame
is war. It's perpetual and more war and more war

(02:02:03):
and more war. And this is why it has to
be stopped. This is why we have to stop it.
That's why I'm still talking about it because as we see,
you know, in nineteen ninety one they were supposed to
be a peace dividend. We had reached some sort of
peace with the Soviet Union and the Soviet Union was
no longer a threat. So in America that were talking
about a peace dividend, they said, now we'll have money
for our schools. Now we have money to fix that bridge.

(02:02:25):
Now we'll have money to build hospitals, you know, because
Americans don't have very good support from federal government at all.
And as you know, American infrastructure is falling apart. Bridges
are falling down, highways are falling apart. Nothing works, We
have no training system, we haven't the federal government gives
us very very little back. Well, ever since nine to eleven,

(02:02:46):
we've had war after war after war. Immediately after nine eleven,
the defensive budget doubled from three hundred billion dollars a
year to six hundred million dollars a year and it
has remained at that level and increased ever since. So
it's a huge amount of money we're buying. Now, we're
buying more boats, more submarines, more planes, and this just
goes around, goes around, goes around. Like the family, the

(02:03:09):
family that brought mister Obama to the president White House
happens to own one of the biggest defense contracting companies,
General Dynamics. They make the boats and the submarines and
the planes and all that stuff. They own Aspen Mountain, Colorado.
The Crown family real name is Krinsky family, and they

(02:03:30):
support you know, like when the Israelis want America to
go to war with Iran. They just talked to mister Crown.
They say, mister Crown, you talk to Obama to get
tough with Iran. We want a war with Iran. And unfortunately,
the Americans are so unfortunately quite ignorant of world politics,
and they believe that the government is telling them the truth,

(02:03:52):
and they believe the media is telling the truth. So
it's very easy to stampede the Americans into a war.
And I mean, but the Americans are completely fed up
with war now. They they see that this is this
is a disaster. The country is falling apart, and all
they do is fight wars. But as I said, they
want a war in Iran, they want a war in Russia.
They this is, this is not ending, and if we

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don't stop it, we will get a Third World War.
That's why it's so important. Yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (02:04:21):
Sports these days ago.

Speaker 1 (02:04:22):
Of course, the trade, of course, the war's going. Of course,
you know, you wonder if the Americans can't see a
better way of life. But it's, as you say, yes,
how do how does the government benefits from.

Speaker 2 (02:04:39):
All these wars?

Speaker 1 (02:04:40):
Well, who's the government? Who's the government? You see, it's
the government in America is as I say, the government is.
The state is nothing more than the group of people
at the top in America. They benefit, as he said,
Joe Biden, Joe Biden's son has now got an oil
company in Ukraine or something like that. But it's the

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it's it's if you want to be empower in the
United States, you need to have the approval of the
media and obviously the political bosses. That means that you
That means when mister Nathaniya who says something you applaud,
That means that you never criticize Israel. That means that
you never you never turned against a war. And so
the people who turned against the war. There was a
very good congressman, a senator in Minnesota, a Jewish guy,

(02:05:22):
Paul Wellstone. He was against the war in Iraq. He
didn't want to go to war in Iraq. His plane
just fell out of the sky one day when it's
coming in for landing in Minnesota. He was supposed to
come into the air, just landed straight ahead. Some of
the plane just went left and crashed into the trees.
And many people have happened like that. So in America,

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if you want to be a politician and if you
want to survive, you support the war, you support Israel. Yeah, yeah, right, yeah,
Well that's it's it's a small group of family. I
have a question, A small group of families at the top. Yeah. Yeah.

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I sent Ron Paul my book. I sent his son
my books because Ron Paul does not believe in nine
to eleven truth. Ron Paul does not disagree with what
happened on nine to eleven. So we had an election.
We had a fake election last time, where we had
a third party candidate who supported the official version of
nine to eleven. So and his son is probably of
the same mind. Because questioning what happened on nine to

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eleven is the most unfortunately revolutionary thing you can do
in America today, because the entire establishment is against you,
but the evidence is on our side. So America is
in a revolutionary position. It cannot go on like this.
It's not sustainable. You cannot have a government that is

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telling lies and waging war based on lies when something
like seventy percent of the American population doesn't believe the lie.
How sustainable is that? It's like an earthquake waiting to happen.
And you know, we never know what's gonna happen. We
never know what's gonna what what, what will happen, what
the Pope might do, or what somebody might say. I
wrote a letter to the Pope. I said, Pope, you know,

(02:07:14):
why don't you just speak to the Catholic people and
say that we have been deceived about what happened on
nine to eleven. Just say that if he were to
do that, there would be an earthquake in the world politics.
But until somebody like the Pope or the president or
somebody does something like that, you know, we have to suffer.
We have to go on with this. Yes suh? But

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what yeah, was managed is bomb?

Speaker 2 (02:07:47):
The guy who is.

Speaker 1 (02:07:50):
What was it in nineteen eighty something? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
yes yes yes, there was a there was the PANAC
the Project for a New American Century. They released the

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document in September two thousand. They said that basically that
the American military has to have supreme control of the
whole world. We have to the United States military has
to control cyber space, the oceans, the air, satellites, everything.
They call that full spectrum dominance. And this was written
this this this was written by Victoria Newland's father in law.

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His name is Kagan. It's one of those Kazarian Jewish names, Kagan.
Donald Cogan was the project chairman. His son, Robert Kagan
is the husband of Missus Kagan. They wrote this document
and they said that we have to have this revolution
in the American military complex, that Americans understand that we

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have to control the whole world. And in order to
do that, we have to increase spending, and we have
to invade Iraq, whether Saddam we say is there or not. Now,
obviously the American people aren't gonna go for this, you know,
just corf all the money and yeah, sure, let's go
to war everywhere. So they have to. They said, there
has to be a catastrophic and catalyzing event to make

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this happen quickly, like a new Pearl Harbor. One year later,
nine to eleven happened and it gave them everything they wanted. Now,
this plan that they wrote up called Strengthening America's Defense
is something like that. It basically called for a war
in Iraq without a reason. That is defined as a

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war of aggression, that is a war crime. That is
what they people were hanged in Nuremberg for committing a
war of aggression against Poland for example. Yet in America,
these people, they don't get any punishment at all. They
conspire to have war aggression in Iraq, the media, the government,
the Kagan family, and nothing happens to them. George bush

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idols his time painting paintings. He didn't even go to
the museum. They opened up a museum about nine to
eleven the other day in New York City. He didn't
even go to the museum. It's it's his presidency. He's
the man who was in charge. He didn't go to
the museum. Why because he feels deep down that he
has been very, very wrong and he knows that and

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he's ashamed. You got a question back.

Speaker 2 (02:10:24):
There, Yeah, I had a question, Yeah, yeah, States.

Speaker 1 (02:10:45):
Yeah, those guys, uh Mayor Simon Walt, They they printed
this study at Harvard. I think that basically says that
the Israeli lobby has incredible influence in American political decisions.
That's true. We all know that that's nothing new. But
when they came out and said it, it it rang
through the halls of Congress. It was considered important because

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these guys have big credentials. But I did see also recently,
I think it was Meerzheimer or Stephen Walt was speaking,
and he ridic icules nine eleven truth. He ridly kills
nine eleven truth, you know, as maybe CNN would do.
You see, the mainstream media calls me a conspiracy theorist.
They say that we are the architects and engineers. They say,

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is conspiracy a conspiracy group, They say architects and engineers
from nine eleven Truth is doing what they do because
they hate the government. This is ridiculous. But this is
what this is what, this is the struggle we fight.
You know, when I had a little presentation like this
in yun Shipping, I went to the local paper several times.
I gave the information everything, and then when I went
there before the event, they wouldn't even send an editor

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down to talk to me anymore. And I told him,
I said, look it, if you don't send just even
a reporter to the event. It tells me one of
two things. Either you don't think that the truth of
nine to eleven is important or you're controlled. Well, I
don't know. The Unshipping Post is a little family newspaper,
but they completely disregarded no coverage. I was lucky Sweden

(02:12:12):
Radio Sveria Is Radio. They did a little interview with
me and yourn Shipping. I'm program four p four and
they interviewed me and let me talk, made a very
nice little piece, put it out on the radio before
and then within a few days I was attacked by
a group called Expo dot s E which which which said,
which said that you know Sveria is Radio lifted from

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and anti SeMet send me to something like that that
they had they had lifted me forward and and and
I wrote to them. I wrote to the Expo people.
I think the name is a Layman, Jonathan Layman, who
made this accusation. And I said, mister Layman, if you
call me an anti Semite, you must have evidence. You
must you must have found something in my writing or
my speaking that would that would that would tell you

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that I'm an anti Semite. Please send to me. I
would like to know where you have this idea from
and secondly, if you don't, then you're simply repeating a
slander that you've heard someplace else. And Sweden has laws
about these kinds of things. You can't just go calling
somebody anti semi or a Nazi. And the guy at
Export Radio I spoke to the mister Pole, mister Pole,

(02:13:18):
he's the he's the VD there, and I said, he said,
you're getting very excited. And he said, how would you
like it if I called you a Nazi? How you
like if I put all over the internet mister Pole
is a Nazi. Mister Pole's a Nazi. You know, you
have to put the shoe on the other foot. He
didn't say anything to that, but that's what they think.
They have the right to do. That they have the
right to They have the right to attack mister bolland
call him this anti semi and that if you throw

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enough mud, some will stick. Which is how it works.
If you look in Google under my last name, which
is a very unusual name, Bolin, you will find many
many defamatory comments about me. Well how does that work?
So maybe some maybe this one would have had twice
as many people, but those people went to the internet oh,
who's bullin? Oh oh oh, oh, no, no, no, we
won't go. We won't all. You see, that's how it works.

(02:14:02):
If you throw enough mud at somebody, some will stick.
It's an intelligence game. Any more questions? Oh good, Yes,
new world order, that's uh, it's what George Bush, Papa
Bush wanted. It's it's the new world order is that
the United States and their allies will completely dominate the

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whole planet, and all of the resources of the planet
basically belonged to the guy with the biggest arms, biggest strength,
and that's what we have. It's uh, it's a frightful thing,
but it's it's what they're trying to give us now.
It's yes, a big pardon. Oh Illuminati, Okay, the Illuminati

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as a group of secret society based in englishtots was
tied to the Jesuits and all that.

Speaker 2 (02:14:55):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:14:56):
In general, secret societies, let's talk about secret society is
not just Illuminati. Secret societies our secret combinations of men
who meet together. Like I think this is some sort
of secret society at some point. I don't know. The
Templar Knights, they have a little organization. But a secret
society is when men get together and conspire. Usually men

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conspire behind closed doors. And what we have in America,
if you drive to any American town, you're driving on
the highway, you come to Welcome to Roselle, and on
the Marquee the big sign as you enter the town,
there are little icons of all of the various secret
societies in that town. And there's like hundreds of them,

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the odd Fellows, the Lions, the you know Bena Breath. Well,
what you find with this kind of thing with nine
to eleven is you find people that are involved in
the conspiracy to cover it up are usually members of
a secret society. And secret societies are not all the same.
Some secret societies allow all men, regardless of race of religion.

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Some secret societies only allow men from a certain religion,
and some secret societies only allow certain men from a
certain religion with a certain point of view. And that's
Bene Breath. Benay Breath is the head of the adl
Anti Deafmation League, also the head of Hello and Bena Brith.
To be a member of Bene Breth you have to
be a Jew, but you also have to be a Zionist.
When Zionism was becoming a big thing, in the forties,

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Bena Brith had an issue. They said, my god, what
do we good do? We have ant members who are
anti Zionists and we have members who are a Zionist.
Because if you remember, Zionism was like a big thing
in the Jewish community. People have to decide do I
side with Israel or do I just not side with Israel.
Then Bena Brith decided in the forties sometime we will
be a Zionist organization, so non Zionists are not welcome.

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But the thing is how this works. It's like that
Russian doll thing again. So you have men who belong
to Bena Breth who are Zionist Jews, who can also
belong to any other secret society, because all other secret
societies are open to all men. But it's it's a
subset so that you can, in this way, you can
have a group of people with a certain political doctrine

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dominate all secret societies. You see what I'm saying. Secret
societies are a bane of democratic society. When I was
in court, the judge was a member of the secret society,
the clerk was a member of the secret society. The
prosecutor's a member of secreciety. They're all member of the
same secret society. What chance did I have? What chance
do you have? When they have sworn an oath? And

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the prosecutor, one of my supporters, said, you know, he said,
you shouldn't prosecute Bullin. I forgot why you know you
shouldn't you Bullen didn't do anything. And the prosecutor said,
I've read Bolin's work and is anti Jewish. The prosecution
will go on, you see. And so it's like I
had I had, I had offended a certain political group

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in the United States of America who controlled the court,
and they said, we will prosecute. And so they threw
out the evidence that didn't suit them. They found guilt
where there was no guilt. They said, now we'll put
'em in jail and then we'll have somebody to beat
the hell out of it. And the story yeah yeah, yes, yes, uh.

Speaker 2 (02:18:24):
Yes, back into it. Yeah yeah uh.

Speaker 1 (02:18:33):
Yeah. I well, who's behind it all? I I don't. Yeah,
well it's not unspeakable, it's not as unspeakable. But you
you I can't. I said I wouldn't. I wudn't speculate
too much today and I I can just in my book,
I talk about individual aspects of nine eleven. For example,
the prosecution. There were a hundred families, a hundred families

(02:18:54):
of loved ones who lost their loved ones on nine
to eleven who did not take the government money. If
you remember, after nine to eleven, the government just basically
had an open fund and if you lost a loved one,
they gave you money. They made a deal with you,
a million dollars for you, a million dollars for you,
half a million dollars for you, million dollars for you.
So most people said, okay, give me the money, and
they signed off they will not litigate. But there were
one hundred families that say, no, we want the truth.

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We don't want the government money. We want the truth,
to find out what happened to ours, our loved one.
And they sued and they went to the It was
held all in the court of Alvin k Hellerstein in
New York City. Alvin k Hellerstein is a Zionist. His
son lives on the West Bank in a settlement. The
real catch is that his son is a lawyer for

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the company that represents the company that screened the passengers
in nine to eleven. If you remember the people went
through the checkpoints at the airports. Airport security has for
a long time been in the hands of the Israelis
in America. This company called International Consultants on Targeted and Security,
based in Holland, is a mosa An old mosat l

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Al company. They give security to Europe, Sheephole Airport, Frankfurt Airport, everywhere.
These Israelis run security since the eighties, if you remember.
And the fact is that the judge Alvin ka Hillerstein
is in New York. The number one defendant is this
Israeli company tied to the Mossad, who oversaw the passenger

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screening that did or did not happen that day at
Boston's airport. How did these nineteen Arabs get on the
plane with box cutters? How did this all happen? Do
we actually have photographs of these man getting on the airplanes?
Et cetera, et cetera. We want to get answers to
these questions. But what did Alvin Kahlerstein do? He said, well,
this is this Israeli company, it's just the parent company
of the of the air So we'll let them go home.

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You don't have to, you don't have to be here anymore.
He dismissed the main defendant in the nine to eleven
tort litigation, and then every single family was bought off.
It was I call it a judicial war of attrition,
war of attricians. When you fighting, fighting fight, then there's
ninety nine, then there's ninety eight, ninety seven, ninety and
you wear them down, and they wore them down so

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that there were no more families. The last family was
in Boston, the Babes family, the hockey player, And by
that point the judge had narrowed down the case to
such a fine degree that only one little question is
being answered. So that's what I mean. Not only was
there no investigation about nine to eleven, there was no
litigation in the most litigious society in the world, the

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United States is probably the most litigious society. That they sue,
they go to court all the time. Not a single
nine to eleven case ever went to trial. There never
will be a nine eleven trial, just like there was
never a nine to eleven investigation. So we've been sold
a complete bill of goods based on nothing but what
the government decided to say, what happened that day. None

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of it's proven none of it. What I've showed you today,
I've tried to show you evidence and proof if you
read my books, the original articles book is full of information,
and that information is what supports the thesis in my
book where I say it's the deception that changed the world,
and that's what it is. Any more questions, Yes, UH.

Speaker 2 (02:22:12):
Company that UH.

Speaker 1 (02:22:15):
Makes UH voting machines.

Speaker 2 (02:22:17):
You know that's through what would.

Speaker 1 (02:22:21):
That's that's very likely, that's very likely. We see that.
For example, Chuck Hagel, who is now the Minister of
Defense UH in the United States, UH Defense Secretary, he
was UH also involved in the voting company eesn S
Election Systems and Software, and he was elected with this
with this stuff. He was elected by the machines that

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he worked for. You know. Yeah. Now and now he's
the now he's Minister of Defense, Secretary of Defense. So
it's it's that's how it works. Anybody else, Yes, please and.

Speaker 5 (02:22:53):
Change?

Speaker 1 (02:22:55):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (02:22:57):
What what do they want to change?

Speaker 1 (02:23:02):
Well, what they wanted to change is is I told
you with the The Netan Yahou Institute had a conference
in Jerusalem in nineteen seventy nine where all the European
and American leaders went like Papa Bush went there and
the Netanyahu Institute was created by his father, Benzion Netanyahu,
who was the executive secretary for Jabutinski before this vision

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of scientism. And in Israel in the seventies, they they
created something in Hebrew called terreor neggad tero. It means
terror against terror, and then they just refined that a
little bit to the war on terror. And if you
read mister Netanyahu's books like Terrorism, How the West Can
Win in nineteen eighty six, he wrote that basically we

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have to get the Western democracies, all of them, to
engage in a war effort against the terrorists and the
countries that support them. So, if you remember, on nine
to eleven, before the towers even fell, Ahood Barack, Ahood Barack,

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the Israeli Prime Minister, foreign minister and most decorated soldier
in Israel, was in the BBC studio in London explaining
what happened before the towers even fell. So far we
just know the two planes crashing of the towers. He said, well,
we know who's doing this. You know it's Osam bin
Laden and we know where he is. And then the

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guy said, well we do you can't be sure. Well, well, yes, yes, yes, yes,
we're sure. And now he ended up. We say, now
is it time for a concrete war on television, a
concrete war on terrorism. That's how he finished that thing.
So the Israelis, this is just like Karl built with
the boot Vizir. The accident has just happened. Somebody has

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when it's a false flag terrorism, somebody has to come
forward very quickly on a huge media presence and explain,
give a plausible explanation, and give the desired result. Show
the people. Now, okay, you've all been shocked. This is
what you need to do. And so, exactly as Ahood
Barack said, George Bush did, the United States very quickly

(02:25:18):
invaded Afghanistan. And this was all planned in advance. They
had planned this, you know, long time in advance. They
had had meetings in Berlin with the Pakistanis and with
the intelligence and they had told the they had told
the Afghanis basically this, you will either accept our carpet
of gold or we will carpet bomb you. What a deal. Well,

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and that's what happened. And so but mister Barack, you say, well,
how was Ahood Barack ready to give an interpretation, and
his interpretation was the correct interpretation or the one that
was followed. And how how is that he was? He
happened to be in BBC studios right there right then?
Who owns BBC? How does his work? That's that's that's

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the game. See, the media, our media is not is
not there to inform us. Our media is there to
manipulate us. You cannot say that the American media, the
US media, serves the people in any meaningful way other
than to misinform them. And Sweden it's a little bit better,
but not much, not much. In America, we have very

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very offensive television. They pounded at you and if you don't,
if you don't agree with what Bill O'Reilly says, you
are not a patriotic American. And they and so people
are intimidated by this. You know, they come home from
work and they listen to this guy and he's telling
them what they have to think. It's it's Joseph Gibbles
would have couldn't have dreamed of such a device, yes, sir, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Well that's that's kind of like outside the field. But
I used to live in Norway and it was a
very a very very interesting event, and I wrote a
little bit about it. If you google my name with Brevik,
you will find my articles. The most interesting thing I
found about that was that he was being controlled. Mister

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Brevoc was being controlled by somebody called Fjordmon. The Fjordmon,
and the fjord Mon was his kind of like his
intellectual handler, kind of his provocateur. And Fjordmont was a
Jewish guy from the west coast of Norway whose father
was a member of the Communist Party, and Fjordmand I
forgot his name right now, But Fjordman was basically acting

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as like an agent provocateur and pushing Brevic, pushing Brevic.
And that's what I'm saying. You have to be very
careful because the Internet and these groups organizations are full
of people who want to provoke something. You see. I
used to work with different people. I used to work
with a guy named Eric Huschman in California. But then
I saw that what they were basically doing at a

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certain point, they became provocateurs. They were calling for violence,
they were they were engaging in anti Semitism. And they say, whoa, whoa, whoa,
Because you see what they want to do is they
want to associate you with that person. Then you see,
get somebody to work with Bolin, give bull In a computer,
give bull In some money. Bullin becomes associated with this person.
Then this person spins out of control and Bollin is

(02:28:18):
taken down by association. So you have to be very careful.
And it's the same thing with what happened with Brevic.
I think Brevik was controlled, mind controlled in a way
to do the violent deed that he did. But the
but the trial in Norway, to my knowledge, did not
even go into Fjordmann, who was Fiordman and was fjord
Mine at all responsible in instigating instigation of violence? You

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see like there's you. You go to Yahoo Yahoo dot
com for example, and just do an image search for Bollin.
The first image that comes up is a picture of
me with a SWASTI goat carved in my forehead. And
I kept this up. I took this up with Yahoo
last week. I said, what kind of algorithm are you
using that the first picture that comes up of me
is an adultery picture of me with a swastika carved

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in my forehead? How can that be? And they say, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
but that is incitement to hatred. People to see a
picture of a bullin with a swastika from that movie
The Glorious Bastards, they say, ah, Bullin, he must be
a Nazi. Yeah, he deserves it. That's instigation of violence.
That's hate speech. If I were to say or do

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something like that about they say, that's hate speech. But
when hate speech is applied to me, oh no, that's okay.
You see, that's how it works. So instigation of violence, violence.
I abhor violence. I think that we should solve I
wish we could solve the problem of nine to eleven
in a judicious, proper way. Find the guilty. We could
easily do it if there was a political will to

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do it. Do an investigation, find the guilty, partners the
guilty people, prosecute them and put them in jail. And
if we did that, we would defang the Beast overnight.
You know, it would mean that a lot of Israelis
would be in jail. Mister Nasan Yaho would probably be
in jail. It Whood Barack would probably be in jail.
It would all is going to be in jail in
September anyway. But I mean, George Bush would go to jail,

(02:30:07):
Dick Change would go to jail, sherifof would go to jail,
et cetera, et cetera. But when you start arresting them,
but what is this? This this this becomes like a
Stalin purge. You know, before you how can you arrest
all of the you know, this is how they did
in America because the highest people were guilty. How do
you prosecute the top prosecuting the United States? How do

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you prosecute Ashcroft? It's not possible, So they say, brilliant,
you cannot prosecute the Attorney General of the United States
of America. So he's the guy who did it. I mean,
that's that's how they do it. Question over here, Yes, sir,
that's said a war we information factory information about Yes
very much, yes sure. My question to you is how

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do they think would proceed? How do we get the
true factor of information? Pops. The way you have to work,
as we all have to work, is we have to
use our own brain. We have to use our own
power of critical thinking. That's why I said my presentation
is just factual. You can check anything that I said
if it's not verifiable. I wouldn't say it. They took

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chapter seven from my book, which is called The Architecture
of Terrorism, in which I name all the names in
this whole thing. A publisher in Estonia, he wanted to
publish my book, is supposedly, so he sent that chapter
to a fact checker in Britain, an independent fact checker
who was completely against my thesis entirely. He said that,

(02:31:34):
but he checked one hundred and five facts. Not a
single one was found to be false. And this Hans
Week said, well, congratulations, Chris. You know the fact checker
came back, you got one hundred percent okay? And I said, sure,
what do you think do you think I'm you think
I'm I'm making this stuff up? I would before I
put anything in the book, I had to check it
like three different ways to make sure that it's absolutely verifiable.

Speaker 5 (02:31:57):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:31:58):
For example, Ariol Sharon Is supposedly said to she won
Paris shortly after nine to eleven. She won Paris, was
asking was obviously saying, Charon, this is crazy. You know
this nine to eleven, This is crazy the Americans, you
know Paris a little bit more careful, Charon, said, Shiman,
And you're always telling me about the Americans. Forget about it.
The Jewish people control the unities of America and they

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know it, and we know it. They know it. That
was supposedly said on Coli Israel or something at radio station,
you know, and was reported in Islam in a Palestinian
newspaper or website. But because I couldn't confirm that, I
didn't put it in the book. I couldn't confirm beyond
a shadow of a doubt that Ario Strown said exactly
those words. So I'm not gonna put it in there

(02:32:42):
because if you cannot verify it, if you put it
in your book and it's wrong, then you destroyed the product.
So basically everything that's in my book is is verifiable.
The question over here, yes, sir, what happened well Sandy Hook? Yeah,

(02:33:04):
very strange, very very strange thing. As I said, the
United States is in a very bad situation right now.
The United States has a criminal government that uses deception
to fool the people all the time. People are killed,
things like Sandy Hook happen. It looks very much like
a false flag operation. It's extremely suspicious, but it's just

(02:33:24):
one of many. It's it's one of many, and when
when when maybe a journalist finds something out very interesting,
Like Michael Hastings in Los Angeles. He found out some
very interesting stuff, probably about the Essa, and he and
and and he and suddenly the FBI was calling all
of his friends and he and he put out a
message on his Facebook or something he said like the

(02:33:45):
FBI is, FBI is all over me. Now he says,
I gotta go a little bit undercovered for a little while.
He wrote that like ten o'clock at night, at three
o'clock in the morning, his his his Mercedes Benz was
burning as like a torch and they had basically just
like they did with Yorghider. Modern day cars can be
HIJACKEDICSIDH planes, you know, increase RPM, decrease, break function, dead person.

(02:34:09):
So what they did to Hastings. So it's like, you know,
when you have a criminal state like the United States
is today, we can talk about the latest crime. But
the latest crime is just yesterday. It's never ending, it's
never ending. And instead of talking about it's it's latest
crime and the crime yesterday and the day before and
the before. We have to stop it. We have to

(02:34:29):
defang this piece. We have to expose the truth and
and bring back some sense of honest government. If we
fail to do that, we're gonna live under a criminal regime. Yes, please, Yes?
To spread the information? Well, I don't know any way
you can. The best thing to do is if you

(02:34:49):
if you have a network of friends, write to them,
keep them in, give them good information. This what I'm
trying to do right now is I call it information sharing.
And I started this effort in Sweden only as a
start to a gate option. I told the people that
start to agit that I printed the books. Okay, I

(02:35:10):
have the books going, but I want to do something
called information sharing. I want to share the information that
I have with people around me. Because there's a friend
in Seattle it's doing the same thing. He goes out
there by where the ferry terminals are and he gives
out information to people, just any person. He just gives
information and tries to because we try to inform other
people that we care about that we know with what

(02:35:31):
we know. We're a small group. But if the information
reaches more and more people, it will bring a change,
you see. And I Sweden could be the catalyst to
change this. Scan the navy he could do it, but
it requires a critical mass of people doing something. We
can't just all sit back and pretend that we don't

(02:35:52):
do anything. Yes, sir, there you go.

Speaker 2 (02:35:59):
Years ago.

Speaker 1 (02:36:01):
Qui bono bab that's a good idea. Who benefits? I
mean the question of in their friending and who benefits?
Just asked that about nine to eleven. Unfortunately, mister Natagnyah,
who revealed himself twice on nine to eleven, he was
interviewed on nine eleven, the towers were just fallen. He
was interviewed by Steven Bennett of the New York Times.

(02:36:22):
Mister Bennett said, it's in my book. Mister Bennett said,
mister Natagnyah, who what, how do you think that this
nine to eleven terror attack will this terror attack will
affect Israeli US relations? Mister Natanya, who didn't blink from me.
He says, it's very good. He said, it's very good.
It will, it will. He said, well, it's not very good,
but it will. It will strengthen our relations because now Israel,

(02:36:44):
now America has suffered a kind of attack that we
suffer all the time, a great blood letting. And then
about a couple of years later, he's speaking at Barilan University,
a Hebrew university in Tel Aviv. I think, and and
he got up there and he said, he said, exactly
like this, Israel is benefiting from one thing only It's

(02:37:06):
benefiting from the attack on the nine eleven attack in
the United States of America and america struggle in Iraq. Wait,
that's two things, isn't it, the war in Iraq and
the nine eleven attacks. But in his mind it's one thing.
But he said, Israel's benefiting from one thing. He said
it in Hebrew. It was reported in audits newspaper coming

(02:37:26):
from Mariv, because it's documented. So I mean, who benefited?
Who feels wonderful about the American's war in Iraq? The
American people don't feel wonderful about it, but Israel things
is wonderful because America, America is now fighting their war
and giving them this strategic hinter land that they lack.
You see, and America has built basis in Afghanistan in

(02:37:51):
Iraq that are meant to last a thousand years. They're
meant to be there for a long time. And you see,
this is what Israel tried to do in nineteen eighty two.
Remember when they invaded Lebanon. I said, well, the Israelis
can't hold that line very long up in Beirut. They're
gonna have to figure out some way to to get
somebody else in there, exactly what they did. France, Italy

(02:38:11):
and America went there and unfortunately were massacred like like
a s the slaughter, you know. But that was the
idea because the Israelis can't the Israelis can't have that
extension force extension in Lebanon for years and years. They
have to get somebody else to hold the line. So
they they snookered Reagan. Yes question there? Do you have
a question? Any questions? Yes? Over there?

Speaker 4 (02:38:34):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (02:38:35):
Or you ever a restore attach?

Speaker 1 (02:38:37):
But talking about this Sed, well, I I I think
I told you that expo SE uh uh defamed me.
They they wrote to Swedish radio and said that you
have you have lifted from a anti Semite with no
evidence at all. And I'm I'm corresponding with these people,
but the expo SE doesn't think they need to offer

(02:38:58):
me any any evidence. And at least the people at
Swedish Radio are a little bit more uh. But if
if I, if I had the money, uh, I would
sue them I would sue that expo SC for defamation
of character because I've read the Swedish a lot. It's
very clear and they're defending me. But justice being what
it is, that might not be a wise thing to
do because they might they might f rule against me

(02:39:21):
or something. I don't know. Yes, back there question attacked
or more class But yeah, I s yeah, I have
a loience.

Speaker 5 (02:39:43):
In community.

Speaker 1 (02:39:47):
Oh no, no, my a. Yeah, I mean I know it,
but but I I I don't. I don't like being
lied about. And you see, it's just defamation is meant
to bring me down, to reduce my credit ability and
and to reduce my importance of my work. So whenever
somebody attacks you like that, you have to, uh, you
have to defend yourself. But you don't only do so much, yes, sir.

(02:40:10):
The Swedish.

Speaker 3 (02:40:15):
Art stuff, it's.

Speaker 1 (02:40:17):
Also financed by it's also financed by the son of
the grandson of the red banker whull Off Ashberg. You
know if Robert Oschberg, yes, question here, Yes.

Speaker 5 (02:40:30):
When we're talking about Israel is involved in and normal stuff,
you know that semi rehearse.

Speaker 2 (02:40:34):
The Samson option.

Speaker 1 (02:40:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it.

Speaker 2 (02:40:39):
Seems so fantastical.

Speaker 1 (02:40:40):
Yeah, it seems more and more clear.

Speaker 5 (02:40:43):
This is kind of the way that their pushing yacles
thunder and.

Speaker 1 (02:40:48):
Yeah, yeah, yes, yes, yes, I mean one of the
strangest things you know. Recently. I don't know if you
follow the UH Malaysian missing Malaysian plane, but I was
very fortunate to get some information that an identical copy
of that plane, an identical version of that plane. The
missing plane was mysteriously sitting in a hangar in Tel Aviv.

(02:41:14):
Although it had been bought by a little company in Florida,
a George Soros company for dismantling, this plane was now
sitting in a hangar in Tel Aviv. And I when
I put out this images and this information, it was
a huge article, a huge because it was it may
have prevented the Israelis from using that plane in a

(02:41:34):
false flag attack. You see, they right after the plane
was hijacked, right after the plane was missing, l Al Security,
an LL security guy, and mister Murdoch both put out
messages saying that oh we know where that plane is.
That plane's probably in Pakistan or Iran, and they're gonna

(02:41:56):
make a bomb out of it and they're gonna fly
it into Tel Aviv, and they both said it on
the same day, mister Murdock in a tweet and the
Lal security guy in New Jersey in an article in Israel. Well,
wait a minute, a missing plane suddenly in Malaysia suddenly
is being transformed into a bomb in Iran. According to

(02:42:17):
two very big zonus, I said, beware, yellow flag guys,
there might be something going on here. And then a
week later we found that the Israelis have an exact
copy of the plane painted Malaysia air everything, so it
may have prevented a false flag attack. And so that's
one little thing you do when you share information. You

(02:42:38):
try to inform people in order to prevent the bad
guys from moving forward with their agenda. And we have
to stop this war agenda. We were able to stop
the war in Syria, not that we didn't stop the war,
but we stopped the Americans from getting involved in the war,
which would have been a much bigger disaster than it
is right now. Remember Libya was a bad disaster, but
when the Americans got involved in NATO got involved, it

(02:42:59):
got work. Then you had Norwegians and Danes bombing Tripoli
for crying out loud that's crazy. Any more questions anybody, Yes, sir,
President was actually John Kennedy. John Kennedy, There's no question
about it. He was the last real president. And although

(02:43:21):
it's very interesting, I'm from Chicago and Kennedy was elected
by vote manipulation, vote fraud. Nixon would have won the election,
but Kennedy got elected by vote fraud in Chicago and
by Hollywood, a very very strong Zionist group in Chicago
who got him elected and said, why would the Zionists

(02:43:41):
want to get a Catholic, an Irish Catholic in the
White House? You know? Well who was number two? Lyndon Johnson.
Lyndon Johnson was is a very strong Zionist. Lyndon Johnson
has been was involved. When Lyndon Johnson was a congressman,
he was he was shipping bombs to his He was
also working with bringing in illegal Jewish Jewish uh immigration

(02:44:07):
from Poland through Texas. So he was a very very
he was a very v and you see when when
when Kennedy was killed, Kennedy wanted to break up the CIA.
Kennedy wanted to restore real money, and Kennedy wanted to
stop the war in Vietnam. As soon as Kennedy was dead,
all of that was changed. We had a war in Vietnam.

(02:44:27):
So from the time that I was in first grade
until I finished high school, we were fighting this criminal
war in Vietnam. So that that's why they got him
in power. Yes, sir, what do you think about the States?

Speaker 3 (02:44:42):
What do you think about.

Speaker 1 (02:44:47):
Uh? He he has. He has an very little chance,
very very very very little chance. He might be he
might be run, for example, as a as a third
party candidate, because nowadays the situation is so bad that
they would do something like this. They'd give the Democrats
Hillary Clinton, they give for the Republicans Jeb Bush. Then
they would get maybe Rand Paul, or they'd give Jesse

(02:45:08):
Ventura as the third party. But I've been I've been
a member of the third party in America, and I
see this as completely controlled as well. It's just like
a safety valve. It's like a steam valve, so that
the patriotic people in America can say, ah, here we
have an option, we have this third party. We can
go for that. But it never goes anywhere, it never
goes anywhere. They don't even let they didn't even let

(02:45:28):
the third party candidate be in the in the debate.

Speaker 2 (02:45:34):
Control peplisation or.

Speaker 1 (02:45:38):
Yeah. I don't think. I don't think he's I don't
think he's controlled opposition or anything. I think he's a
pretty good guy. I just I saw him on TV
the other day where he said that there was very
little steel at the World Trade Center. I would say wrong,
just like just like when mister I have nothing against
Gordon Duff, but when Gordon Duff prints out, puts out,
publishes an article on his Big Veterans Today, which is
a very big alternative website, and he says that there's

(02:46:01):
no nano thermite. This is this is just a big
nuclear bomb went off, y'all. It's like you're lying to
the people. And I said, why are you doing this?
Who are you serving? You?

Speaker 2 (02:46:12):
See?

Speaker 1 (02:46:12):
So we have to be very very careful abou what
information we we accept as true if you can't verify
for yourself, you know, mister mister Duff says, I have
this information from my sources, but we can never show
it to you. What good is it then? Any questions
anybody else? Yes, sir, here, well the ground zero is

(02:46:36):
you know, of course, meaning like the place where the
nuclear blast went off. I mean, it's the it's the
it's the it's the center of the devastation. But in
in in nine to eleven, it's it prefers the course
to the place where the devastation was the worst. And
the the evidence indicates that clearly we have physical evidence

(02:46:58):
of nano thermite. And this nano thermite that I showed
you had more energy per gram than any known explosive.
Now that's something to think about. At four hundred and
twenty degrees celsius. Those chips that showed you those when
you heed those four hundred twenty degrees, they would blow up,
they would blast, they would detonite, which is a very

(02:47:20):
low temperature, and they would detonate with releasing more energy
than any known explosive. So that's obviously an explosive. So
I think that they must have put this stuff in
the tower, inside the elevator shafts or something. They probably
got some I think I know the company. I think
I know the company did it, and it's in my book.
But they hired some crew and they said, you spray

(02:47:44):
this stuff on this wall. Here, you spray all this wall,
and this is a rustproofing or primer or in as
best as abatement. You know, the workers don't know, they
don't need to speak English. They're just like from Ecuador
or something of a spray spray spray spray just don't smoke,
you know, spray spray spray spray sprid. And this doesn't
become really dangerousuntil it hardens. But then it's like if
if you covered this whole whole ceiling with that stuff

(02:48:07):
and then just put one little detonating a couple of
little detonating things on the wall, and then radio controls say, okay,
now we blow that building. You just hit the button,
those detonators go off from radio signal, and that entire
nano thermite layer explodes in one bang, and well, this

(02:48:29):
room would be gone, would be gone. And I submit
that the destruction we saw of the floors, the polarization
of concrete, and the absence of any metal pans. There
should have been one hundred and ten metal pans full
of concrete. If the government says we had a pancake
trust collapse collapse, well where are the floors? Why did

(02:48:51):
they all disappear like that? Where does the energy come
from to pulverize a whole acre of concrete? And everything
in the building. It's just not possible. Another question, anybody question,
it's getting late. Thank you very much for coming. Oh
there's one question. One question back there. I want to
before we before I want to thank you very much
for coming. I'm I'm. I'm very heartened to see so

(02:49:14):
many people. And this is a very important subject. So
continue with your skepticism and and and sharing the information
because we deserve a better world than what we're gonna
have and what we have now. We cannot afford to
have war after war after war, and nobody wants it.

(02:49:34):
Nobody wants it. And when we realized we had been
tricked into war, we have to say, enough of the
tricks and we want answers for the trick that got
us into this war. Your question, then the last one,
you're okay, Thank you very much. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (02:49:54):
You're listening to the Fact Counter Radio Network.

Speaker 4 (02:50:00):
Just the facts, Mammy.

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